The Tucker Carlson Show - Roseanne Barr: Gender Ideology, Why She Terrifies Hollywood, and Her Friendship With Trump
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Thank you!
Man, I'm really happy to be here.
I am grateful to be in Fort Worth, Texas.
I am. I mean that.
And I'm not... I guess no matter where I was, I would say I was grateful to be here,
but I actually am really grateful to be here. This is our 13th city that we've hit this month.
And, you know, there comes a point in a month long jaunts around the country,
which has just been wonderful and affirming and beautiful in every way,
but where you're just sick of staying in hotel rooms, needing room service. It's just,
it's not great for you. I have so many family and friends in Texas that this is my,
after 13 hotel rooms in a row, I'm staying in a familiar bed here tonight and I'm with familiar
people and I'm just grateful. It's like a spa treatment standing here.
So thank you very much for having me.
It's funny.
Every city, one of the reasons we wanted to do this in the first place
was because you'd get such a distorted sense
of what's happening in the country from the media.
Oh, I love you, too. Thank you.
I do.
And, of course, there's a lot of time and energy put into convincing you that you shouldn't love your fellow Americans.
You should hate them.
And so it's just important to get on the road and see them.
And you realize that I don't care what they tell you on CNN.
The hate level in America is incredibly low.
Everyone's nice.
And they're nice to each other. It's true. That's the main thing I've noticed. I mean, I don't have a TV, but, you know,
I check in from time to time on the telephone, and they're constantly telling me, America's a
powder keg. It's about to explode. I don't know where the explosion's going to happen. I haven't
been there yet in 13 cities.
Everywhere I've been, people are kind to each other.
They're friendly.
They're open.
They're hilarious.
They're exactly the people I grew up with.
They're Americans, and they like each other,
despite the efforts of their leaders to tell them they shouldn't.
On the other hand, there is a lot of dark stuff going on,
so much dark stuff going on,
that I thought today I was trying to be as honest with myself as I can be.
And of course, it is really easy to lie to yourself, and most of us enjoy it, I certainly do.
But I had to ask myself, honestly, like, how do I feel?
Not just about this election, but where we're going, you know, and where our children will be, and what kind of country this will be, not just next year,
but in 15 years, 20 years, 100 years. And I'm being as sincere as I can be. I'm really hopeful.
I really am. I may be the only person. I am really hopeful. There are the darkest forces
I've ever seen arrayed against pretty much every single person in this room,
and certainly against everything you believe in your families.
And they're not going to win.
And let me tell you why I think that.
And I'm not just talking about this election.
And by the way, if you, as I do, in hotel rooms and airplanes,
think of all the things that could go wrong.
You know, not just in this election, but in the world.
All the nuclear
wars and EMP attacks and weird viruses that Tony Fauci creates in Chinese labs and unleashes on the
world. Not that that could ever happen. And then you think of the fact that actually that did
happen. Fauci did do that with your tax dollars and is still walking through my old dog park in
D.C. with Secret Service protection that we're paying for, then you think to yourself, you know, that's so, I know, boo, boo, boo. Well, exactly. But then you
think to yourself, that's so unfair. That's so grotesque. In fact, the whole point of that
exercise is to be unfair. The whole point of it is to shake your faith in the idea of fairness
or justice. I mean, the whole point of all of this is to make you your faith in the idea of fairness or justice.
I mean, the whole point of all of this is to make you give up on the idea of fairness.
They literally put an illiterate woman in charge of the White House press briefing.
The whole job is being able to speak.
And she can't talk. Everything's a malapropism. It's insane. Was that an accident?
No, it was the whole point. It was the whole point. It's why we have a trans admiral.
The whole point of it is to make you give up on the idea of justice and basic fairness,
which is that the capable, hardworking people rise, and the people who can't speak English don't wind up as the White House spokesman. That's the definition of fairness. And
the whole reason that they staff those jobs in the way they do, the whole reason they elevate
the incompetent and punish the competent, is to make you give up on the idea that there is justice.
And what I realized today thinking about it
is that justice is bigger than the Justice Department,
actually.
Justice is bigger than this country,
it's bigger than society.
Justice exists separate from all of us.
We can distort justice all we want,
but it doesn't change the fact that in the end
there is justice, there is right and wrong.
And the fair and good thing happens because good wins in the end. That is a fact.
But that's not the only reason I'm hopeful. The second reason I'm hopeful is
I'm commanded to be hopeful. It's the law. Every wedding you go to, they're always reading 1 Corinthians 13. It's like, I think it's the only verse in the Bible, actually.
But if you actually read it, you know, love is not the only thing mentioned.
There's faith and then, exactly.
And we're required to have it.
It's not optional.
It's not a byproduct of a sunny day.
I feel hopeful today.
No.
Hope is what you have on purpose. It's
intentional. Things don't seem to be going in the right direction. I don't see how we get out of
this. It's like a Scooby-Doo episode. Oh my gosh, we're boxed in. But I know we will get out of it,
actually. Maybe not in the way we want to, but in the end, we'll look back, and this is true in the life
of every single person in this room.
You will look back on the best moments in your life,
the moments that changed you,
that opened your eyes to true beauty,
that made you a better person,
that deepened your relationships
with the people that you love,
and you'll notice that those best moments
were all the worst moments, actually.
And I'm obviously saying this as someone who gets fired a lot. And that's been true every, I can't even keep track.
My wife said to me the other day, how many times have you been fired? I don't know. You know,
quite a few. Loved every one of them. In fact, I've loved them so much, I'm so used to this cycle
of the worst things being the best things that this last time I got fired, I was like, oh, I'm
psyched.
Kind of psyched to be humiliated in public once in a while because I know it'll end well.
And I know that I will learn something about myself.
No, it's true.
And so actually we have cause for hope
no matter what happens.
And I bet every single person in this room
has a worst case scenario in mind for what happens in November.
Don't get me started, baby.
That's the one heckle I could hear.
Everybody in this room, everybody in this country, actually, is pretty worried about the future.
And I'm here to say that we have an obligation to feel hopeful.
We have grounds to feel hopeful.
And let me be a little more specific about why I'm hopeful.
Because you're actually on the right side.
And for years, I covered politics in Washington where I lived,
and I really tried to resist adding a moral cast to political differences. I mean, you know,
if we're arguing over the capital gains tax rate, you know, and you think it should be 15,
and I think it should be 35, you know, one of us is right, probably me, of course.
But it doesn't mean you're a bad person.
We just disagree over a number.
But that's not at all what we're seeing now.
We're not seeing disagreements about how to make the country better.
No one's even pretending that the program that you oppose and I oppose
is going to make the country better or people happier.
No, it's a program of death and destruction, of course.
And that's become very obvious.
Someone said, very wise in my life, said to me today,
we should be grateful for how clear things are now.
We don't need to lie to ourselves.
It's super obvious.
And I'll say for myself, I don't always know what's good,
and I definitely don't always imagine I'm on the right
side, having been on the wrong side, having endorsed the Iraq war. Like, I have a keen sense
of my own absurdity. And there was, in fact, a mirror outside the bathroom in my hotel
today when I walked out of the shower. So I was like, oh yeah, I am absurd.
I recommend that to every middle-aged man, by the way, especially those who think they're successful.
You really do have this image of yourself as a godlike figure,
kind of master of your fate, leader of your family, leader of men.
Then you come out of the shower into the glare of the mirror,
and you're like, there's this lumpy primate in front of you with hair in the wrong places, and you're like,
is that really the godlike leader of men?
I don't think so. That's an absurd person. Who is that? Get the hell out of my bathroom.
And you're like, oh, wait, that's me. And the truth is, that is you, which is a good thing to know.
In fact, I would make that mandatory for senators and members of Congress. I would. I would.
Take a good look at yourself,
and I would put super bright overhead fluorescent lights
in the john.
I would.
I have a lot of theories like that.
That's why I'm not going to get elected to anything.
But here's the point.
I'm not always certain that I'm on the right side,
but I know evil when I see it, certain that I'm on the right side, but I know
evil when I see it. And that's exactly what they're selling. It's not a difference of opinion.
It's anti-human. And that is exactly what it is. It's against people.
It's just kind of that simple. You either think the greatest blessing in this life is other people,
and the greatest duty you have in this life is to serve other people,
particularly the people around you, the people that God puts right in your path,
right there, your children, your spouse, your coworkers, your college roommates,
but also your housekeeper and the waitress, the people who are right there in front of you.
It's your job, not just your job, but your sacred duty.
It's the main duty that you have is to those people, actual people.
And if you believe that, and everybody should,
and we should be reminded of that every day,
it's awesome to send mosquito nets to a country you can't find on a map.
Much better to make sure your housekeeper has a car.
And we should be saying that. But most people don't really even need to be told that because that's where their joy comes
from. And there are certain people, particularly in crowded elevators, who are annoying and too
close. That's a fact. But in general, all of our joy comes from other people, all of it. And nothing
else comes close. And, you know, by the way, we
spend our whole lives, I've spent a lot of my life, like, worried about money, want to make more money.
You ever make enough money? I know there are, I branded some friends of mine who've made enough
money, and they can tell you, and I can tell you, it's fine, it's good not to be in debt, it's good
not to be, you know, paying off the credit card company at 25% interest. Why aren't they in prison, by the way? Sorry.
Yeah, yeah.
By the way, if Antifa was really radical,
they'd say something about the credit card companies, wouldn't they?
Wouldn't they?
They wouldn't be attacking normal families in the park.
They'd be attacking the banks that are impoverishing the country, wouldn't they?
Isn't that what the radical would do?
I think so.
But what would the Praetorian Guard for the ruling class do?
What would the bodyguard for, say, Goldman Sachs posing as Antifa do?
They would try to sow race hatred and dissent in the country so you wouldn't notice that the country's being looted.
Just saying.
Anyway, here's the point. Wow, that the country's being looted. Just saying. Anyway,
here's the point. Wow, that was a tangent, but heartfelt.
What I'm saying is that most people, the overwhelming majority of people, even people you think you disagree with, if I'm being totally honest, understand intuitively and live as though
they understand and believe that other people are the point of life.
Whether it's your own children or just the people in this room, it just brings you such satisfaction and joy.
But there is a small group of people who somehow wound up in charge of the country and the world
who think people are an impediment to progress, who are actually openly anti-people.
They're affirmatively anti-people.
And you know that because they
don't like children. And you know they don't like children because if you're trying to raise them in
this country, you know it's pretty much impossible. That they're being destroyed because the people
in charge are setting out to destroy them. Whether it's with the screens or the filth or the drugs,
which they're busy legalizing. is that making us a happier country?
No, it's destroying people.
Is funding a war that can't be won with money that we don't have,
is that pro-people?
No, the whole point of that is to kill people, which they have done.
And if you think of it that way, you'll notice that almost all of their policies
are against people.
And I just don't think that's a winning program over time.
I don't. I don't think people want that, actually, at all. I don't think the dream of, I'll just
speak as a middle-aged man, I don't think the dream of most middle-aged people is never to
have grandchildren because your kids have been castrated. I just don't think that. I mean,
I think it's weird and wrong, but it's much deeper than that. Nobody wants that.
Nobody wants that. The appetite for these programs, you see these people on television,
oh, AI is going to come and, you know, basically take your job away and make you useless. Then
we're going to implant it in your brain and you'll be part robot. Actually. And I always wonder, like,
is there a constituency for that?
Is there a huge number of people in this country
of 350 million?
Are there like 100 million who want to be half robot?
And idle all day and take orders from machines?
I've never met a single person who wants that.
But that's what they're selling.
They want that.
So it's a pretty weird place to be
in a country this big and truly diverse,
and diverse in the best sense,
like lots of people with different opinions, to be ruled by people with an opinion that really represents like one half of 1% of the population.
First of all, it's not democracy.
Second, it can't win over time.
And I do find it very interesting that the person they hate most is Trump.
And you have to ask yourself, because their hatred of Trump is like so crazy,
so all-consuming, that what is that exactly? What is it about Trump?
What? No, honestly, is it that he's so right-wing? No, he's not.
No, I'll tell you exactly why they hate Trump. Because he is relentlessly pro-human. He is the most human person ever to run for president.
I love it.
I get some people think it can be a little too human.
I get it.
But it is relentlessly human.
Think about who he's running against.
What do the last two Democratic nominees have in common?
Neither one has ever uttered a human statement in public ever.
No, I mean it.
Kamala Harris kissed her, air quotes here,
husband with a mask on.
Human beings don't do that.
Maybe you're so neurotic,
you think you need to wear a mask outside.
I feel sorry for you.
Another living example of our broken mental health system.
I feel compassion.
But I can promise you, as someone who's been with his wife 40 years today,
I met that girl 40 years today.
I know her pretty well.
September 23rd, 1984.
And one thing I know about her,
if I tried to kiss her with a mask on,
she'd be so freaked out.
I don't know what,
I think she would assume I had a stroke.
You don't kiss your wife with a mask on
because that defeats the purpose,
which is touching her with your lips.
I don't know if you knew this.
Now, maybe you think I'm being mean or unduly personal. I'm really not, actually. I'm not going to go off on Kamala being Montel Williams' side piece or whatever. That's low, and I'm not
going to do that. That's actually the best thing about her, if I'm being honest. I mean, it's gross,
but it's also kind of earthy and real.
It is.
And you see the pictures,
and there's Montel,
it's kind of like lunatic talk shows.
Oh, here's my girlfriend.
Okay, good.
At least it's recognizable
as something that people do.
It is.
Maybe not the best choice.
She may not have perfect judgment.
Well, she doesn't stand alone
in that category.
But that's not have perfect judgment. Well, she doesn't stand alone in that category. But that's not the Kamala Harris you see now.
And why am I mispronouncing her name?
Because she does.
She does.
I did once.
She was, I mean, I don't know.
By the way, I've almost never pronounced
anyone's name correctly.
I have trouble with pronouncing names,
which is hard in a business where that's your job,
but I was always doing that.
I mispronounced her name, immediately,
oh, you don't like her, you're racist, okay.
So then one of my producers goes, well, wait,
we're trying to get to the bottom
of how she pronounces her name,
and we've got tape of her pronouncing it two different ways.
This is not her last name, this is not her married name.
This is not a nickname. This is not her last name. This is not her married name. This is not a nickname.
This is her first name. Imagine not having decided as an adult how to pronounce your first name.
I'm not being mean. Has that ever happened to you? David, David, David, David. Honestly, what is that?
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And if you watch her speak,
my favorite part in the last debate,
the only debate,
which was not my favorite debate,
I'll say that,
but my favorite moment was the first 15 seconds
where there was a tight shot
on Kamala's face
and she was terrified.
She was terrified.
Because, and I'm not being,
I'm being sincere.
Like, I've been on stage a lot
and there are moments
where you're like,
oh, wow, I don't know what to say.
You know?
And I could see in her eyes, I've been on stage a lot, and there are moments where you're like, oh, wow, I don't know what to say, you know? And I could see in her eyes, like,
she's thinking to herself,
I've never done anything in my life.
No one even voted for me.
What am I doing here?
Can I pull this off?
And that was the only moment I liked her
in the whole debate.
Because that's a recognizably human response
terror feeling like an imposter who hasn't felt that way I have right but
the rest of it was exactly like the guy she replaced without any voting Joe
Biden where it was literally like AI we had a middle-class family. We had a middle-class friend once.
That's a chat GPT answer.
And Biden was exactly the same way.
And you contrast that to Trump.
What is he going to say?
Whatever occurs to him. And I think having watched it a lot
and known him for many years
before he got into politics,
because I was in the media,
I do think that Trump's popularity
derives mostly from his love of people.
And I do think the whole population feels, on an animal level,
feels the contempt that our leaders have for us. It's not just that they think you're stupid or
they don't want to hear from you or they're going to just pick a nominee without letting you vote on
it. Or it's not just like you're going to vote on a referendum and then one of their judges is
going to be like, no, you can't have that, sorry. It's not like every public opinion poll taken for the last 30 years bears no resemblance whatsoever
to the congressional agenda. That's all true. All those facts suggest they don't care what you
think. You're just a barking dog. I actually pay much more attention to my barking dogs than they
did to us. But it's deeper than that.
They don't like you at all. They don't like you. They hate you, actually. Which is why they're
encouraging you not to have children at every turn. What is that? I have strong feelings about
this subject of life. I've got a ton of kids. But you don't have to get theological about it. It's
just really simple. If you love someone, you want more of them.
And if you hate them, you want fewer. Right? I'm a non-genius. That's my superpower.
If I like something, I had dinner last night with Alex Jones. Like cheesecake, I'll have two.
Right? If I like something, I want more of it. And if they liked us, they'd want more of us.
And yet pretty much everything they do is designed to make sure there are not more of us.
Yeah, Boo is right.
I want more of us, like more Americans, because I like Americans.
It's not complicated.
It's not theological.
It's human.
Anyone who is trying to prevent you from reproducing hates you.
Super simple.
And if they've constructed an entire platform where your only right is not to have children,
they hate you. That's the only right you possess. You can't say what you want to say. You can't hang out with who you want to hang
out with. You can't criticize them. You can't defend yourself from crime. You have no input
into the laws in a system that you supposedly own. You have no way to influence how they spend your money
and you can't not give it to them or they'll shoot you.
So, okay.
But you do have one right and that's not to reproduce.
What is that?
Well, it's loathing.
It's loathing of people.
And in a world, well, of course, it's the definition of evil.
It's the definition of evil.
People are made in the image of God.
That's why they have value.
That's why they're unique among the species
because they are made in the image of God.
That's why each person has a spark of holiness inside.
That's why you're not allowed
to kill them. I mean, what? We've gotten so far from the obvious. Just to restate,
by the way, I'm an Episcopalian, so I'm not going to lecture on theology.
This is not theology. It's just obvious, killing people is bad.
We don't have a right to kill people
except in self-defense, period.
Why? Because we didn't make people.
Because we're not God, we're not in charge of the universe.
There are limits to our power,
as there are to our wisdom and our foresight.
Duh!
And so if you construct an entire movement around killing people,
well, you're sick. That's exactly right. This is like Mad Libs. I love it. I'm going to pause at
the end of every sentence and you fill it in with a better adjective than I could have thought of. I love that. Yes, you're sick. You're sick. You're diseased. But you're
also doomed. And that's the point I want to make. This can't continue. And it won't.
There's a famous saying in Washington from Herb Stein, who was President Nixon's chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors,
a group that not a lot of people pay attention to, but he had one great line,
which is, if something can't continue, it won't.
And governments based on hatred of human beings cannot continue.
Now the question is, at what point does it cease to continue? And the answer
is, I have no idea. I have no idea. But I know in my heart, as certain as I am of anything,
that no matter what happens, people will persist. Because God created them and put them here to thrive.
That's the whole point. And I mean, no matter what happens, if something awful, I don't even
want to say it out loud, but we were on the brink of catastrophe around the world because the people
in charge of our government want to destroy the human population. And there's no faster way to do
that than with a world war,
which is where we're headed right now.
And I've spent a lot of time worrying about that
because I have a tactile sense of how close we are.
And this morning I realized,
you know, first of all, it's not up to me.
Can't control that.
I've got a wife, three dogs, four children,
tons of employees, a lot of college roommates.
I got a lot of people to care about,
and I'm going to care about them
because that's the most important thing.
But I also thought, I don't care if that does happen.
People somewhere will survive.
They will reproduce.
They will persist.
They will smile and laugh and tell appalling, filthy jokes
and do all the things that people do
and over another 10 million years
create McDonald's and a future
Donald Trump will order three quarter pounders and eat them in the car
because that's
who people are
and you can't extinguish it
I don't care if you're Carmella Harris
or whatever she's calling herself
I don't care if you're Klaus Schwab
I don't care how powerful you think you are.
You can build your stupid little Tower of Babel,
but in the end, it's going to fall down
because you're a joke.
You are not God.
You vastly overestimate your powers
because you're absurd,
and future generations, and yes're absurd. And future generations,
and yes, there will be future generations,
will laugh at you.
And whether I'm here or not to see that,
it brings me joy to think about it.
So I'm happy.
And with that,
I want to bring on
the first of a couple guests tonight. I want to bring on the first of a couple guests tonight.
I want to bring on a man called James O'Keefe,
whom I've known.
Here I'm like bragging.
I knew James O'Keefe before he started shaving.
He may have shaved, but I've known him a long time.
And James O'Keefe is a very talented man.
And so when we left our old world of subscribe to TV shows
and sit there and watch them into the new world,
which we now occupy and are really enjoying,
and created our own network, TCN, we thought,
you know, we should do long-form programming.
And one of the first people we decided to partner with
was James O'Keefe.
And he has created a film that's going to air on TCN on October 10th called Line in the Sand
that I think is a pretty amazing film. And what sets it apart from most of the documentaries you
see on every topic, including immigration, is that James O'Keefe, being James O'Keefe,
actually went down and got on top of the migrant train
and rode with the Venezuelans.
Here's the trailer to the movie,
and then we'll talk to him about it.
We've got an unaccompanied minor right here, guys.
This is heartbreaking right here.
Those criminals are being put with the kids?
They're putting the criminals with the kids.
To sacrificing your value system and integrity to feed your family make you a bad person?
Stop the car. Stop the car.
They're very upset.
Get right there. Get down.
It's not about people.
Follow the journey of the immigrants.
It's just all about money.
The journey of the children.
And the journey into human nature.
I should say one thing I love about not just James,
but all people and all my friends have,
almost all have this in common.
You know, life throws you stuff and kind of knocks you off.
And the people who get up and keep going are the ones that I respect.
And Mike Tyson has a great quote about this.
Everybody got a plan until you get hit in the face.
And James and I have been both hit in the face recently,
and he is still making great art, I think.
So thank you.
Thank you, Tucker.
I've been hit in the face a lot, yes.
So tell us, just give us the outline
of what you did to get this story,
because it's amazing.
This is the most insane movie you'll ever see, documentary.
We actually embedded with illegal immigrants
and followed their journey from South Mexico to their final destination. We were with the cartel that
the film opens with the cartel cutting through the fence and them cursing me
off. We put audio recording devices to record everything. Moments that you
wouldn't even believe that are real we captured on video. I wanted to show
people what's the true reality which is a lot more complicated than
people think. And we went to New York City. We got the fake residencies, the fraud, all on hidden
camera. And we're releasing it with you, Tucker. Thank you very much. So, well, we're honored,
we're honored to do it. But the reason I haven't done it is because I don't want to get killed. So, like, can you just do that?
This is a business.
It's a business, human trafficking, run with the help of the Biden administration, but by the cartels.
Yeah, we almost died.
One of my colleagues got kidnapped by the cartel, Anthony.
They destroyed all of his cameras.
I was detained by the Mexican National
Guard and Mexican Immigration, and I was wearing a hidden camera in my watch, and I recorded all of
it. So... Wait, can I ask, I mean, once they found out they were holding James O'Keefe, that's kind
of like an obvious peril, right? Did they know who they had? I don't think they realized what was happening, but they eventually realized that I was an American and they were
afraid of what I had captured on video. So this is a remarkable, I mean, there's one moment when
their cartel is cutting through the fence and they tell me in Spanish, they said, you need to let us
finish our work as a border patrol agent just stood by and watched.
And the film is called Line in the Sand because in our country right now, people are facing a
crisis of conscience. People are having to do things they don't want to do in order to feed
their families. And I heard that a lot in this film. I'm just doing my job. I'm just doing my
job. Police officers, federal agents. But they're conflicted inside.
They're torn inside. Until the film, we get to the part where there are whistleblowers. In this film,
people in the federal government blowing the whistle, and nobody knows that yet,
until it premieres on your site. Let's see a clip. Yeah, we have a clip here of me to set this up.
I got on the Beast train
in Irapuato, Mexico.
I climbed aboard a freight train
with Venezuelans
and rode it. So a little scene
from the film here, if we can put that up on the screen.
You gotta tie up
your shoes because when you get on
a train, you don't want to get
the laces tangled up in there.
The Ferramex train conductor signaled to the immigrants not to take this train, but the next one.
This is a good one.
This is a good one?
This is the best one to travel.
Oh, is that it down there?
We got to run. Let's go.
What happened? Oh, is that it down there? We got to run. Let's go. Que paso?
That's us.
I think that's the train right in front of us.
Next one, next one down.
Next one down.
Go.
Hurry, hurry, hurry! Hurry, hurry, hurry!
Go, go, go, go, go, go, go. Hurry, hurry!
You gotta keep going, you gotta keep going.
Oh shit, I can't fucking do this, guys.
Hurry, hurry, hurry!
Hurry, hurry, hurry!
Come on, come on!
Go, go, go, go, go!
Go! Come on, come on. Stop, stop, stop. Stop.
Come on.
Come on, brother.
Come on.
Come on, brother.
You got this, brother.
Come on.
Yeah, buddy.
You got this.
You got this, brother.
It's all right, buddy.
We're here.
What is this?
It's coal.
Coal pellets.
We barely did that.
It was moving.
We barely did that.
Did it just happen?
Holy shit.
Did that just happen?
I guess it did.
America, we made it. We made it. What's happen? I guess it did. America! We made it!
We made it!
We made it!
¿Qué pasa?
¡Abre la!
¿Ah?
¿Estamos?
¡Estamos!
¡Vamos!
¡Vamos!
¡Vamos!
¡Vamos!
¡Vamos!
¡Vamos!
¡Vamos!
There's actually people waving at you the entire way and they're cheering you on and
they're excited to see you. You got shanty towns right here. They wave at you the entire way and they're cheering you on and they're excited to see you.
You got shanty towns right here.
They wave at you.
Everyone is so nice.
Line in the sand.
So, amazing.
I just want your top line conclusion
about what we're watching here.
So we've had tens of millions of people
come into our country
and if you watch the media and change the country forever, what we're watching here. So we've had tens of millions of people come into our country.
And if you watch the media and change the country forever,
totally destroyed huge parts of the country.
That's true.
I've just seen it.
And those who live here
know what I'm talking about.
But the way that it's explained to us
is that you have sort of people
from around the world
showing up looking for better opportunities,
which I'm sure is true on some level.
But it
sounds like you found a business run by devil-worshiping drug gangs. Yeah. In short,
it's like that old adage, follow the money. What I discovered is that everyone is making money off
this. And I think we kind of already know that, but it was shocking. I mean, so shocking. Everybody
is being paid off. The federal government
is giving billions of trillion dollars from Health and Human Services to fund places here in Texas
that I snuck into, secret child encampments here in the state of Texas, to house half a million
unaccompanied children. And everybody is talking about how they're making all this money. That's
what it came down to. That's what I saw. Even the cartel said, we got to get paid. You got to let
us finish cutting this steel beam. We put audio recording devices on the beams to listen as they
traffic people across. So this is an opportunity for you to actually see it. A lot of documentaries
talk about it. People think about it, they know,
but you actually are immersed in it.
And it is so shocking.
I, you know, I was actually,
there's a scene where I'm visibly,
I blackpilled,
because the border patrol agent,
they watch it,
and they just shrug their shoulders,
and they say,
we can't do anything about it.
You know, when you feel for them,
I mean, I know a lot of them,
and I think they're decent people.
There isn't anything they can do
because the politicians
are refusing to do anything about this.
And the reason that I'm so excited about this film
is because the people who are supposed to be representing us,
especially in this state,
like, what does Dan Crenshaw say to this?
Like, honestly, why isn't anyone
stopping this?
No, I'm
because they can't deny it when they see this
I have a positive thing
to say and there's a man in this film
I'll give you his first name, his name is Zach
and he's watching it right now
he's a border patrol agent in this film
who decided to blow the whistle
on the Department of Homeland Security
and and who decided to blow the whistle on the Department of Homeland Security.
And he's giving an interview in his vehicle, in his uniform.
He's a hero.
And you contrast all the feckless, morally weak people in this country who are not willing to take a stand with the ones who are.
And I found out, Tucker, that just two days ago, the Border Patrol
sent a cease and desist letter to him
for appearing in this film.
And as a result of that,
I got wind over the last 24 hours
that five more
Border Patrol agents are going to blow the whistle
as a result of this film.
And,
one more thing.
And, so naturally, the investigative reporter,
I go, this guy's actually on the Canadian border.
I didn't even realize the Canadian border was overrun.
It is.
Oh, yeah.
You're in Maine.
I was in Vermont.
So I go up there this weekend to get comment, like I do, and the state police detain me
for trying to ask questions of the
Border Patrol agents. So this is a giant system, and I mark my words, I promise you
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You are doing what our media establishment should be doing,
is required to do, and is refusing to do,
and bless you for it.
And when you find that, I will be honored to air all of that.
James O'Keefe.
Thank you, Tucker.
Thank you.
Thank you. You do kind of want to ask David Muir at ABC News,
who, judging by his abs, is a really good reporter,
an intrepid reporter.
Not Anderson Cooper-level brave, but, you know.
You want to ask, like, why aren't you riding on the top
of a cartel train changing our country forever?
Like, where's everybody else?
Why is it James O'Keefe doing this?
Because he's brave and he's honest. That's why. So I want to introduce our next guest and say it's one of the great upsides to working in
the media. The downside of working in the media is you have to work with other people in the media.
It's like a daily prostate exam, but it is. It is. I mean that. But the upside is you get to meet amazing people.
And most famous people, I'm just, you know, spoiler alert, are actually not worth knowing
at all. But occasionally you run into someone who's famous and in spite of being famous,
is genuinely interesting and really smart and free thinking.
And if you'd asked me five years ago, would Roseanne Barr, one of the most famous people in the world, be one of those people?
I mean, I didn't know.
But I interviewed Roseanne Barr on the strong recommendation of a friend of mine whom I trust several years ago.
And I wound up thinking that Roseanne Barr is one of the more extraordinary people I've ever met. And I have been furiously texting with her ever since because she's so smart and she's so
deep. And so, and I mean that, and you're about to see that. So it is with great gratitude that
I introduce ladies and gentlemen, Roseanne Barr. Thank you guys so much.
So nice to see you.
Thank you, Tucker, for having me.
I feel blessed to have you.
Oh, you're so sweet.
That movie looks fantastic, doesn't it?
James O'Keefe's movie.
Well, it is fantastic.
I mean, the guy's honest and brave.
It's not, you know,
being a reporter is not super complicated.
You know, it's not building a supercomputer, even taking apart your microwave.
It's just like, be honest.
And he is.
But he's like one of the only ones.
Yeah, but that takes a certain soul.
Yes, it does.
It does take a certain soul.
I love you too.
So let me ask you, I'm always interested.
Well, you just said it yourself, like why in a world full of reporters is James O'Keefe the only one telling us what's actually happening to the country our ancestors built?
And so let me ask you a variety of that question. Of all the famous people in the entertainment business,
why have you decided to say exactly what you think?
Well, I always decided to say exactly what I think.
Whether it ruins my life or not.
Ha, ha, ha.
Ha, ha, ha.
Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha.
Ooh.
Yeah, because that's why I got into it, you know.
That's part of being a comedian.
You, I mean, you know, to make anything funny,
it has to have some truth in it, you know.
And so the truth is the funniest thing in the world, really. To make anything funny, it has to have some truth in it.
So the truth is the funniest thing in the world, really.
Truth is so funny and so beautiful and so strong and so incredible and so God-like because God is truth, you know?
So you always got to find that kernel of it if you want to make people laugh or say anything
that touches them or be real at all you gotta you gotta be real and you gotta
you know come from that deep place so I always wanted to do that and plus I didn't have any
choice I always was like that I I was always born like that, you
know. You know, it's really admirable. I don't know if I'd want it in my house, in a child.
That's what my mother says. My mom says that. She's like, God, since the minute you were born,
you were you. My mom says when I was born, all the other little babies were in their little baby beds there in the
hospital, but there was one that was screaming real loud, and she just knew it was hers, and
so she went down there, and all the other ones were all nice and being cute babies, but
one of them was trying to shove both its fists into its mouth and screaming.
And they had to put a little straitjacket on me
to keep me from eating both my fists.
And she said, you know, it was always like that with you.
And I always was.
I was always me.
We're the beneficiaries of that. And I always was. I was always me.
We're the beneficiaries of that.
So the truth is the most important thing.
Telling the truth is a true joy, actually.
It is a joy.
Yes, it is.
I agree with that. What is the truth of what we're watching now?
What the hell is this?
Well, I'm glad you asked me that question.
I am too.
I mean, we're in Fort Worth.
We can say what we think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I moved down here to Texas.
I've been here, living here for three years.
I love it.
People are so damn nice.
I, you know, it's like really cool to be around nice people.
And, you know, it's really cool.
And guns and stuff, that's cool.
Ha-ha!
Hell yeah!
Right?
Woo-hoo!
I shot a deer, you know.
I shot my first deer.
Like, I guess it was one year ago, I shot an eight-point buck with one shot.
Really?
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
That made the best, what do you call them?
We turned them into beef sticks.
I mean, deer sticks.
Oh gosh, those were so damn good.
I got to go get me another one.
I ate them all.
I had a whole freezer full of them.
I ate them all.
Oh, they were so good.
I never had deer meat before.
But you ate the whole deer.
Yeah, I ate the whole deer.
It was good.
Well, my family ate it too.
Not just me.
I'm just picturing that.
It was so cool.
You know, I never did anything like that.
You know, I went on a great big old farm and it had all these deer and we tracked it
and all that stuff and set up the thing and the whole thing. It was so awesome. Got the big old
rifle out, you know, and put it on the holder and then stood there like looking in the bushes for it
and everything. It was so cool, man. I felt like I was really, you know, like I could
take care of myself. You know what I mean? Like I was thinking like, well, who knows if what they're
going to shut down or take away from us next, but I can always go out and shoot myself a deer if I
have to, you know. It was awesome.
Amen.
Plus, I thought, well, you might as well do it once.
You know, I always want to do something once in my life,
you know, so I could say I had the experience, you know.
Like running for president and stuff, you know, I did that.
That was an experience.
And, you know, I've done a lot of really different kind of things. When you ran for president, did you refuse to give interviews?
Ha ha!
No, I love giving interviews.
You know why?
Because I knew what I was going to say and I had ideas.
I'm like...
She's nothing but a prostitute.
And, you know,
she blew her way
to the middle. That's what I said. She did. She blew her way to the middle.
That's what I said.
She did.
She blew her way to the middle.
And that is insulting to us women who, like I said, it is so insulting to those women, you know, like me, who were never asked to blow a guy for a promotion.
Right, ladies?
I can see why you're insulted. I get it.
And we're supposed to be proud of that? I mean, we're supposed to go,
oh, she's the first one. I mean,
it's just such an insult. Everything that they do is to insult and humiliate us. The women,
first of all, they can't insult or humiliate us enough by telling us that if you got a penis,
you're a better woman. That really pisses me off, you know? I mean, it is. It makes me so mad.
It's mockery of you, actually.
It is mockery and humiliation.
It's blackface.
It's womanface.
So when the little Bud Light dude
is telling you how hard it is to be a woman,
which he's been for like a week.
I mean, you know what was disgusting about that? Uh, we're going to get into it and you were
getting into it, but you know, I've been involved in this fight for a really long time. And, uh,
and, uh, he wasn't just, um, being a woman or a girl or any of that stuff.
He was dressing up like an eight-year-old.
Right? You saw it, right?
I was irate.
And then he would run in his bedroom with his teddy bears and stuff
in that little girl's dress.
I mean, it was just pedophilia.
It was normalizing pedophilia.
And that is all they care about, that and killing babies.
That's only two things they care about, normalizing pedophilia and killing babies.
It's hard to argue with that.
I mean, those clearly are their priorities.
But the thing that both have in common is the destruction of innocence.
Absolutely, that's where the
devil gets his power.
Tell me what you mean.
Well, you know,
the destruction of everything
decent, good, and
innocent. He loves
nothing more than when we, you know, people give him the power by destroying it.
Then he owns them.
He owns the people who do that in his name.
And, you know, they worship Satan.
And, I mean, people are always going, oh, Roseanne, you're so crazy.
But they do. They worship Satan
just like we worship God, only I think they're more, whatever the word is, devout than we are.
They're way more devout than we are. They never go a day without worshiping at the altar of the devil and doing
his bidding. We'll forget about God when we, you know, we go and we only turn to God when, you know,
we're having troubles or something or when we feel bad, but those guys are at it 24-7. And that is
what, that's when you ask me what's going on in the world.
That is exactly what I think is going on in the world.
It's a big old war.
It's a war between good and evil.
And, you know, you've got two choices who you're going to serve.
You're going to, like that Bob Dylan song, you're going to serve somebody.
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord, but you're going to going to serve somebody. It may be the devil or it may be the Lord,
but you're going to have to serve somebody. So I always say, choose wisely. This is the time
to choose wisely. And a lot of people, they're on the fence because they're like, well, this
doesn't involve me or I don't want to get involved. But the thing is that they are choosing to be with the devil by doing that,
and they're going to pay for it too. What do you mean? So you're saying that
the people through whom evil flows are destroyed by evil?
Yeah, the people who do evil are destroyed by evil, but the people who don't hate evil.
Because we're commanded in the Torah to hate evil.
We're not supposed to tolerate or love it or look the other way or forgive it.
We're supposed to chase after it with hate to extinguish it from this planet. And that's the only thing we're allowed to feel hate for,
not for another human being who happens to be captive of the force of the devil, but the devil himself. We are supposed to hate him and the evil he does by serving our God.
And by loving our God and loving what's good because God is good.
So when you're not choosing, you are choosing.
You know what I mean?
You're choosing not to be on the right side.
You're choosing to go, oh, well, it doesn't involve me.
Well, it does involve you. And you're on the go, oh, well, it doesn't involve me. Well, it does involve you.
And you're on the wrong side of stuff.
You didn't pick.
It picked for you.
Like a lot of people will say, well, I'm not political.
I don't care about politics.
Well, that's fine, but politics cares about you.
And you are not immune.
And I think these times are showing people that.
It doesn't matter if you think you're immune or you can, you know,
immerse yourself in insignificant things.
It's still going to get you.
It's coming right now.
It's gathering forces coming for our country.
And, you know, it's past time for us to sit around doing,
going like, well geez, I hope somebody will do something about it. It's way past that.
When did this come to you?
Oh, boy.
It came to me when I was three years old.
I was three years old.
And
I grew up in
an apartment house.
I'm a Jew. I don't know if y'all know I'm a Jew.
I love being a Jew.
It is so much fun.
It is so much fun to be Jewish.
I'm telling you, it's a blast.
It is.
It's so fun.
And I'm Jewish, and my grandparents, they sponsored a lot of people to come over after the Holocaust.
They sponsored, I think it was 20 families to come over from concentration camps,
and my grandparents owned an apartment house, and that's where I grew up.
And I grew up with survivors,
and every Friday night on, for Shabbat dinner, everyone would come to my grandmother's house,
you know, and they had numbers on their arms, and that's where I started my career, actually, because I always said my grandmother had a big, like, window, a window seat.
And so I would go up there and entertain because I really don't like people all that much unless I'm on stage and they're watching me.
Then I really love them, you know.
But I'm not good on one-to-one things because I get tongue-tied and nervous.
But I really like to entertain and they all clap and stuff. And I did my really good Shirley
Temple impressions. And I made my mom do my hair and ringlets and everything. And my family lied
to me and they told me that I was better than Shirley Temple and everything like that.
And I believed them until I was older.
That was a horrible letdown there.
But sometimes they would tell stories about what they had been through.
They didn't have, you know, they were in PTSD, you know.
And I was the only kid around.
And so they often would point to me.
This is a lot of why I'm really neurotic and stuff.
And they would point to me and they would say, little girls like her.
And then they would tell a horrible thing that happened.
Huh?
What?
I don't know what you're saying.
Oh, well, I love you, too.
You're so nice.
Thank you.
Well, so they was always pointing to me and going, little girls like her, they did this and that.
They were watching the Eichmann trial on TV, you know, and I'd come in and they'd go, don't let her watch it.
But then my aunt said, go, no, she should see this.
I would never show my kids when they were three what I saw.
But, you know, it's horrifying, and I got horrible PTSD from it too. And a lot of other mental
things like obsessive compulsive and a whole bunch of tics. But so I wanted to get away from
them. I went in the bathroom and locked the bathroom door. I was only three and they all
were coming to, Hey, Rosie, turn the black knob., you know, oh, she's locked, you know,
they were Jewish, so they were like, oh, my God, she's locked herself in the bathroom.
She's locked herself in the bathroom.
Oh, she's going to get a break.
I'm going to call the fire department.
They're going to break the door.
But I was in there, and I was like, I locked them out, and it was great,
and so I was just all in the bathroom alone, and it was really fun and stuff,
all by myself there without them there, and I had a vision, and I had this vision, and I saw a vision,
and, you know, I told people this my whole life,
and they're going, oh, my God, she needs shock treatments
and psychiatric care.
She needs to get her, you know, you wouldn't believe
until I stopped talking about it, until I was older.
But, yeah, I did see a vision, and it was, I guess it,
I don't know what it was, but it was a guy, you know, a man.
And he pointed at me, just like they had pointed at me.
And he told me without words, you're going to live.
He said, you're going to survive this.
And he said, and one day you're going to have an answer
to every question that's in your mind right now,
and I'm going to be with you every step of the way,
and you're going to find those answers in books.
Because I loved books when I was little.
And, you know, I've read thousands of books.
And I always find the answers in my mind.
I'll tell you about that later.
And then he told me, he said, and you're going to have your own television show
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We're proud to offer it. So that's why I know there is a God because it came true, you know, so I knew it was a
God force that was saying that to me.
So I was like, yeah. And then it happened, so I don't have any doubts
about if there's a God or not because of that, you know.
Do you have doubts about whether good or evil wins in the end?
Oh, no, I have no doubts at all whether good or evil win.
I know good always wins.
It takes its time, though, because, you know, a lot of people have
to wake up because they don't even know what's the difference between good and evil. And we got
a lot of people in our country, they still are blind to it. They don't, they don't see that
they're supporting evil. They have no idea. And, you know, but now it's so in their face.
I think that God is pulling the veil off of all of it in front of us.
And every day, don't you just see it?
Every day it's getting harder and harder not to see it.
And I think that these people, they have to work really hard not to see it and not to put the pieces together. And that's why we don't have any
journalists, because journalists are supposed to put the severed parts together for us to get the
picture. So that's why they knew they couldn't have any of them. You know, we have to be, like I say, a unified field of bullshit. That's what we have for a media.
Because if they were to tell the truth, people would get the picture clearly and wouldn't allow it.
But they have plausible deniability.
That's why they lie, because people will go, well, maybe it isn't that they're stealing our country and selling it
out from under us, these people that pretend to represent us. Maybe they're not making deals just
for themselves and their families with the money we work up here to pay taxes and pay for all that stuff to allow them to kill us.
You know?
Maybe people would see real clearly what's being done to the people of our country,
and particularly what's being done to the children in our country
and to the children they're bringing to this country and to the genocide that is
happening to those children that they're bringing to this country and to the
genocide that's going on to the children in this country.
How would you describe that genocide?
Oh, it's just so complete on every single level.
It's fierce.
Well, you know, what is it like?
They say 80,000 children just disappeared that were brought over here.
But that isn't even taking into account what I know. When I came to Hollywood, well,
always I was involved in stuff having to do with mental health.
And being a mental health patient myself,
I always saw behind that veil, that iron curtain,
of what they do to people who have mental health issues, what they do in hospitals, you know. Yeah, there's so many of us. And, you know, being committed to mental hospitals
several times in my life, having about, you know, 150 nervous breakdowns
and such over the course of my life.
Huh?
Just shout shit out, whatever. But no, but I would be in mental institutions with other young people, so I would
hear from them what was going on in their lives. And so I always knew because they told me.
And when I came to Hollywood, people regarded me as a mother figure, you know, and they still do, and I love it, and I, you know, love it, love children, love children of all ages.
But people would come to me, kids in Hollywood, and, you know, they would tell me things, a lot of them, but never told their own parents.
And I would listen because I felt like
that was part of why God allowed me
to have what I got, you know,
because I owed that, you know, I felt like I owed that.
In telling the story of this family that was archetypical to me of all the great families I
grew up with that were working class and poor, you know, right on that line and just were so noble. You know, that's what I wanted to bring to television
because I was so sick of seeing working people
insulted all the time, particularly,
you know, I was just sick of it.
So I would sit there watching TV and go,
when I get the Roseanne show, you know,
we're going to show, you know, we're going to do, we're going to show, you know, how
indispensable these people are, the people who make everything go.
And I always regarded it as a spiritual, you know, mission to do that.
And plus, it made me feel good, you know, to do it. Because I knew that it,
I knew they didn't, I knew the people in charge didn't value it, nor did they value the people
at home that were making them all their money and watching it and buying all their products
and all that stuff. So I sort of felt like a pirate. A pirate? Yeah, I always imagine myself a pirate.
And this one friend of mine was a great professor of linguistics and theology. And she wrote that
people like us writers, that we are pirates on the subliminal seas. Don't you love that?
I kind of do.
Pirates on the subliminal seas and stealing back what was stolen from us.
So it worked.
I mean, it was the biggest show in America.
And then it became really clear to everyone in Hollywood that the people you portrayed
and the people who watch the show were like
100% Trump voters.
Oh, yeah.
Well, they always
hated the working class.
They always hated the
working class. Why? I've never understood
that.
Because they work.
I don't know.
I didn't grow up in the working class.
I always kind of thought they were great.
They could do stuff.
They had actual skills.
It wasn't just like all private equity.
I mean, they like made stuff.
Yeah.
Well, these peculiar people in Hollywood,
they're not like you or they're not like anybody.
What are they like?
Well, they're just very arrogant and very ignorant.
They have no real life.
They're narcissists, first of all.
They don't have any real relationships with anybody.
You know, they don't have any real friendships. They don't have any integrity or authenticity or nothing. They're just, they're just phantoms. I think they're
phantoms. I always say when I talk to people, I think we need a new definition for what is a human being.
What do you mean?
And what is the definition of a human being?
Well, to me...
I think you're being asked to comment on
Diddy.
Oh, on Diddy.
Okay, but first I
want to finish what... Because I said this, I talked someitty. Okay, but first I want to finish what I,
because I said this,
I talked some a little while ago,
a week or so ago,
but people were agreeing with me
because I think,
well, a human being cares about life.
Yes.
A human being loves life
and living things
and doesn't, and has empathy for living things and other human beings.
And, um, I think that's the big thing. It respects a human being, respects life,
wants things to live, loves life and feels empathy for other living things.
Amen.
That's a, I agree with that definition 100%.
And there are some people, well, they look like people, but, you know, and they act like people, sort of, but they don't have none of that. They like the idea of blood and war
and death. They really dig that because it means, oh, they're going to make another
hundred bucks or something. So are you suggesting they're not fully human? I don't think they're human. I, you know, I'm a biblical student, you know, I,
and so, uh, no, I don't think they're human. Uh, in the Bible, it says, is anyone interested in
hearing me? I told, I always tell this to my family.
They're used to me, but I'm like, you know,
I always lose all my friends and stuff because, you know,
nobody likes to hear somebody that just talks about the Bible 24-7. They're like, oh, my God, give it a rest.
Get something else to talk about.
You know, people are bored with me when I do.
But I love it.
And so I just like to find other people
that'll do that with me.
But, well, I'm glad there's some of y'all there.
Thank you.
Thanks for that.
Well, it says that...
You're sweet. Thank you.
It says some of us are people and then some of us are messengers.
And messengers or angels, they come in two forms, negative and positive.
But a messenger or an angel, it doesn't have a soul.
And here's what it says about a soul.
So if you know if you are a soul or a messenger, a lot of people don't know.
Huh?
If you are a soul, a soul is capable of change.
A soul can change its mind.
It can change its behavior.
It can repent.
It can grow.
It can get better. it can do better, you know, it can change.
A messenger cannot change. It's only here to tempt those who have souls.
It tempts them to do bad or to do good.
So you think there are...
Because it says the devil, Satan,
his Hebrew, in Hebrew,
what he is is the prosecutor.
Because when you go to heaven for judgment in the court,
he shows up as the prosecutor on the other side
because he knows your sins better than you do.
So if we're trying, you're saying that if we're trying to assess people, the ability to repent
and change is the number one way we understand what we're dealing with.
Right. And so a lot of these things, a lot of these messengers, they are like phantoms, and we can create them in our mind with, when we are not honest with ourself and we're not right with God, and we just, like, project our own crap onto everybody else,
we can create a phantom that way by projection.
So, now if we get a good angel or a good messenger
that brings us a good message that lifts us,
that's a gift from God, you know,
that to do better, you know, to go the right way.
But a lot of us, I don't, what do you say?
Donald Trump.
I'm going to tell you all about Trump in a minute.
And, but a negative
messenger, they just want you to
mess up because then they've got
you and when you think
you're got,
when you think your sins
are so great, you
go, oh, to hell, I'll never get better
and then you just keep doing
bad. So that's the trick,
you know?
We've all seen that.
Yeah.
You've known Trump a long time.
How would you assess Trump?
I think that he's biblical.
I think he's messianic.
He's a messianic figure to me.
And it also says that every, you know, Torah also says that every tribe of human, you know, every tribe of being is here to fix itself through repentance and, you know, by being real honest with yourself and,
you know, going to God and saying, I did this, like to have the capacity for self-reflection.
And Trump is doing, Trump, I think, is here to do the lifting for our country.
Everything that our country did that was bad,
he's here to lift us out of that and take us into the good.
Well, he certainly revealed a lot of it.
I will say that.
I always think of Trump that the main,
looking back 100 years from now, I think it'll be I always think of Trump that the main, looking back 100 years from now,
I think it'll be clear that because of Trump,
a lot of us, I'm in the category for sure,
I lived in D.C.
I had no idea what was going on in the city I lived with
among the people who were my neighbors.
I had no clue until Trump showed up.
Really?
I really didn't.
I mean, I really didn't. I don't know. It's like,
if you're, if you're married to an alcoholic, it's like all your friends know, but you're the
last to know. Yeah, that's true. And if you're living in, I mean, I thought NATO was like a
good thing. I had. Oh my God. I know. You don't know when you're in the middle of it. You know
how many people still think that? Like they like Zelensky and shit? I can't even think.
I could lose my mind over that.
Like they go,
oh, he's Jewish.
Well, he's an
effing Nazi, Zelensky.
I don't care what.
I mean, I just lose my mind
for this stuff.
Do you meet anyone who agrees with you?
Just checking.
More and more.
For a long time.
Well, not in Hollywood.
Hell no, not in Hollywood.
No, I never met nobody that agreed with me in Hollywood. What did they think
of you? Oh, well, they, you know, when I would say, oh, they just hated my guts. And they were
terrified of me too. Why? I thought they were terrified of me because I was a woman for one thing
they're terrified of women
yeah especially
especially the kind of women
they got out there
are terrified of women like me
they're terrified
what kind of women
do they have out there?
whores
I noticed that you're a, you're a word mincer.
Where'd you learn that? But they isn't, they are though. You know, they are.
They don't have any, you know, they don't have no self. None of them has any self. It's just a bore. They're all bores.
And, you know, like I was a woman, I mean, I'm a comic, you know, like I think they were shocked.
I think the first time I ever went to a meeting at the network there, That was something. They were like,
it didn't compute.
It's like somebody like her,
I mean, she should be serving us coffee.
That's how they looked at it.
She should be serving us coffee
or cleaning up something.
And here she is telling us what she,
what?
She didn't go to Harvard, none of that shit.
Oh, you didn't go to Harvard?
No, nor Princeton, none of that shit.
Okay.
No, and they're like, geez, you dropped,
she's a high school dropout,
and she's sitting up here
telling these network people what to do. And so I think they
didn't like me for that, you know. Plus I said things like when they'd say, well, they'd say
crazy stuff. Like they'd go like, they'd say like this, well, Roseanne would never say that. They'd say that to me. Roseanne would never say that.
They'd say that to me.
Roseanne would never say that.
And I go, what are you talking about?
And they go, not you.
Roseanne.
Roseanne.
They're psychos
I go but I am Rose
and what the hell are you talking about
I am Rose and I know what Roseanne would say
trust me
she would say that
and they say no you don't understand
there's a difference between you
and the character you portray.
No, there isn't.
There's no difference between myself and the character that I portray.
I write the fucking jokes, you assholes.
I'm sorry. Excuse me. I'm so dirty and awful. I'm sorry excuse me I'm so dirty and awful I'm sorry but they made me so mad and then they'd go
like this they go well we feel that that is not the right way to go and so you know I just got
madder and madder because you know I came from you know. We ate the welfare cheese in my family,
which was very unusual for Jews to be on the welfare cheese.
It was.
But, so I say, you know what, you're making a big mistake.
I go like, you're thinking the wrong way.
This ain't a democracy, okay?
It's a queendom.
It ain't no democracy up in here, okay?
It's a queendom.
Read the name of the show.
And so then it was like, God, she's such a bitch.
Then it was like, she's a bitch.
And then I'd see them like with Jerry Seinfeld and the men,
they'd go, oh, he is just, he knows what he wants.
You know, he's a great leader.
He really stands there and he stands there.
He knows what he wants.
He has the vision.
She's a big fat bitch.
They always
did that to me and it drove me crazy
because I knew what they were doing. Even though I think
they're very for women's rights, I thought.
They're pretty big feminists,
aren't they? I think they like
fun Planned Parenthood.
It's kind of weird they didn't listen to you.
Well, I wasn't that
I wasn't that kind
I was
I wasn't that kind. I was, I wasn't that way.
I was like, well, the mom, you know, the mom and the dad.
I like there to be a mom and a dad.
You know.
I like there to be a male and a female in the power equation.
You know, I like men,
and, you know, Hollywood,
everybody's gay as hell.
Ask me.
Ask me who's gay.
I'll tell you.
Just ask me.
I'll tell you.
Did he?
Oh, they're all gay as hell.
I always knew they were gay as hell, too,
because when they're getting out, they're going,
I'm a man, and there's nothing but bitches,
and they do this and that.
Gay.
Right?
Gay.
Well, let's just get on the list on who's gay, then. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Ha, ha, ha.
And you know, I said,
my brother and sister is both gay, you know,
and that's why I put gay characters on TV
because, you know, we all love the gays.
And I said, you know,
because I grew up with the gays and everything. And, you know, we all love the gays. And I said, you know, because I grew up
with the gays and everything. And, you know, I love my brother and sister. And, you know, they've
been with the same people for 35 and 38 years. And, you know, I've been married nine or 10 times,
so you can't go by the stereotype there. So I wanted to present, you know, normal people.
They're married and they have children, you know.
And I said, well, but the bad thing about giving the voiceless a voice,
they never shut the fuck up.
That's the problem there.
But no, they should have quit back when they got,
yeah, they didn't need to go this far, you know.
Come on, it's all about the need to go this far, you know. Come on.
It's all about the middle.
Right?
The vast middle there.
The extremes have marginalized the middle.
It's insane. Oh, I've noticed.
It's insane.
Ain't it?
How did they marginalize Main Street?
Well, they've decided and they've succeeded in making people
with normal goals
like getting married,
have kids,
buy a house,
send the kids to summer camp.
Like, these are not crazy
buy a helicopter,
take over the world goals.
No.
But all of a sudden,
you're like a freak
if you want to have children.
It's like,
shut up and freeze your eggs
and go back to work at the bank.
It's like, no, no,
but for real.
I know. Most people I, no, no, but for real. I know.
Most people I know have, including me, pretty moderate goals.
I know.
Yeah.
But those are considered heteronormative or racist or something.
But no, every person, regardless of what they look like or where they're from,
kind of has the same goals.
Yeah.
But they've been redefined as freaky
by the freakiest people in the world.
That's my read on it.
I know.
These people going around showing their wieners
and all over the streets, you know,
walking around in their parades.
Where are you on wiener flashing?
No, but I'm saying,
the people showing their wieners to the kids,
they're saying that we're offensive.
They're the ones saying
we're offensive.
It does seem,
what were you saying earlier
about projecting?
Yeah.
Because they have no self.
What does that mean?
So they have no self.
Can you just flesh it out
a little bit?
Well, I think when they look in the mirror they don't see a reflection because they have no self-reflection all they do is go after everybody else but they don't go hey man I have I have
total double standards I'm watching everybody on, you know, everybody
who loves Trump go into prison
and everybody on my side
who's done ten times worse,
they don't even get arrested
or get a ticket.
They haven't arrested anybody
that burned down all those cities
but an old lady that walks
through the Capitol, a grandmother,
they throw her
in prison.
They don't even see it.
That's what I'm telling you.
They're not even investigating the Epstein murder.
They promised an investigation.
They've never done it.
No.
Right.
But I think all of them, the Uniparty, they are just trying to, they're scared to death, and they're just trying to protect themselves,
because when that list comes out,
and all the other stuff is declassed,
you know, it's going to be like worse than the emperor naked.
It's going to be the emperor went to Epstein Island and ate people.
And you know they do that.
You know they eat babies.
That is not bullshit.
It's true.
So it's not just the dogs and the cats,
not just the pets.
It's not just the dogs and the cats.
They're full-on vampires.
And everybody still thinks I'm crazy, but I'm not
crazy. They're full on vampires. They love the taste of human flesh and they drink human blood.
They do, Tucker. Stop staring at me like that. You're freaking me out, man.
Because you spent your life in the entertainment business. So I think you have
some authority on this. So many kids that I was in mental institutions with over the years,
they are all from those cults and they've covered it all up. They cover it all up. And, uh,
you know, I just pray to God. I'm just going to pray to God that he opens everybody's eyes in this country.
By the time we go in to vote for Trump, that he will open up everybody's eyes and they will stop pretending to be asleep.
You know what they say, you can't wake people up that are pretending to be asleep, but I pray to God, please wake up even those who are pretending
to be asleep with the irrefutable truth of what the worst people on this planet are really up to.
They are really up to that. They're doing it. There are so many victims. There are so many victims.
There are so many children victims that are now adults.
There are so many adult victims who have been raped and brutalized
and seen their brothers and sisters murdered in these houses where their parents are,
you know, drug addicts and because that happened to them too. It is at, you know,
what did they call it when COVID, what was that? The big lie. No, that big lie. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But they said pandemic.
What's the word?
Epidemic.
Thank you, honey.
The epidemic in America.
The epidemic in America is child sexual abuse.
And I just want people to see it.
I want people to open up their eyes and see how
prevalent and horrible it is. One of three girls, one of four boys in this country today.
It's just horrible, and you just can't la-la-la it away anymore. It's going to get more and more
apparent, and you got to choose your side.
You know what I said?
When they didn't pass that safe law, boy, am I getting mad.
Do you know, Tucker?
Tucker, I better shut up.
No.
Do you know how many people I had?
Do you know what I do?
Do you know what I've done since they stole that election in 2020?
They gave us a goddamn COVID so we'd send in those mail order ballots and all that bullshit.
And the post office cheated too.
Everybody in this country cheated us out of our president in 2020.
They made us sick.
They, I'm sorry.
Go, baby.
They overthrew the United States of America.
They overthrew the Constitutional Republic of the United States of America. And then they covered it up with their January 6th bullshit.
With their insurrection.
Insurrection. Friction!
Because the first thing President Trump did,
God bless that man, and I love him,
and everybody knows it.
I love him more now than I ever loved him,
and I loved him pretty damn good.
He drove me out in a Bentley when I did my second HBO special at Trump Palace in Atlantic City, if you've seen it. He's always been a good friend and a good man,
and to me, and to a lot of other people and
what was I saying?
I'm old.
I forget what I'm saying.
What was I saying?
I wasn't kidding about
Roseanne being interesting.
Was I?
I mean.
No, I'm sorry.
No, it's true.
I forgot what I was saying.
You said
they overthrew Trump. Yeah. They used the COVID. You said they overthrew Trump.
Yeah.
They used the COVID.
Yeah, they made up COVID.
And then January 6th.
They got a, Fauci gave everybody AIDS too.
Did you know that?
He did.
Google it.
He withheld the AIDS treatment from dying people and came back to give us COVID.
And he's working on a whole new one. Nobody stops any of these people.
How come the same people are still around? The ones with the fake Pfizer and Obama,
this is his fourth goddamn term.
How come nobody does anything about Obama and he's still running around?
After Fast and Furious,
after fake FISA's,
they overthrew the government of our country
and they haven't even answered for it.
And that pisses me off!
Oh, I remember
what I was going to say.
You guys, since
they did that,
Tucker, I'm sorry.
But since they did that... No, no, sorry.
Someone cheering backstage.
No, I have been on the
phone. You guys would not even believe how many people I have called.
Every day I am on the phone and I'm causing trouble every single place I can, wall to wall, coast to coast.
I am.
You are the best.
Because you know why?
Because you know how Trump says,
they're not after me, they're after you,
and I'm just in their way.
You know how Trump says that?
Well, they're not after America.
They're after the world,
and America's the only thing that stands in their way.
That is true.
If they take America, they'll take the whole damn world.
Every kid in it.
I'm here for the kids.
I'm here for the kids. I'm here for the kids.
I'm a grandmother.
Everybody says, you raised me.
You know, a lot of people come up and they go,
you know, I am the woman I am today
because you raised me.
And I go, don't blame me that you're a hoe.
Because a lot of them,
I don't want to take credit, but, but I just feel like I'm,
no, but I feel like I am a grandma. And to these people, they say, you know, you raised me and now
my kids watch you. Well, that means something to me. And I never would take that for granted.
I never would.
It means something to me.
And so I want to, you know how Trump,
we have MAGA and then RFK.
We have...
We have MAHA, Make America Healthy Again.
Isn't it great?
Well, I'm launching one, Make America Moral Again. America moral again.
And it's called mama.
And what that means is no more double standards, America.
No more double standards anywhere
because that means
you don't have no standards.
One law for everybody.
Amen.
And since I am like
in the position
to be America's grandmother now,
by God, I'm going to do it. to be America's grandmother now.
By God, I'm going to do it.
You know, I don't know why this is from my act,
but I do try to correct children when I see, you know,
their parents don't even watch them these days.
And so, you know, I will step in when I see. I do. I have to. And I challenge all other grandparents. You just have to do it. I'm just a nosy old woman.
And I feel like God wants me to do it.
He wants me to do it like these kids
are screaming in the hall in my hotel, you know?
And no, but I do do this.
And my son said, you better stop it, mother,
because someone's going to sue you.
But- Well, what did you do?
Well, these two kids, it was the day of the football game Saturday and these people was
getting the elevator and they was all dressed, their outfits were for the Baltimore's and.
Oh, the Baltimore's. Yeah. Yeah.
And whatever.
And so they get, I don't know.
So they get in the elevator and the door closed. And there was these two, like, I guess they're like probably 12 and 13 boys.
And when the elevator door closed, they go, cowboys!
Like that, they scream in the hall, you know. I'm going in the elevator door closed, they go, cowboys! Like that, they scream in the hall, you know.
I'm going in the elevator.
And just that reflex, because I think God wants me to be the world's Jewish grandmother.
He does.
Because it just came out of me.
I go, shut up!
And I couldn't even believe I was doing it.
And so they were real scared and turned around.
And I go, do your parents know you're out here screaming in the hall?
I bet they don't, do they?
Where are your parents? And they go, well, they're in the room. And I go, I bet they don't know that you're
out here screaming like this is somebody's yard. This is a nice hotel. You don't go screaming in
the halls of the hotel. That's what they look like, just like you. And so I said, you don't, you don't do that. So, you know,
they didn't know who I was. So that was cool. And then, so the next day I go out, you know,
and they're running in the hall this time. So I thought, out of hell with it.
This is going to be fun.
So I chased them.
I start chasing them.
It was so fun.
I chased them down the hallway.
And the one goes and hides behind this one door, you know.
So I go and I pull the door open.
I go, I see you.
And then the other one goes this way and hides behind the elevator door. So I go over there and, you know, I say, I see you too.
And then, you know, they were real scared and stuff. And they didn't know that I heard them
say each other's name. They didn't know that I had heard that. So I go, you better watch it, Trey
and Jordan. And they were like, and the elevator's doors closed just then. And the one kid looks,
he goes, how did you know our names? So then I went down the lobby and they were so scared or something so anyways the elevator
other elevator opens there and they they they stick their heads out look and they're like
who is that they don't know it's me you know Roseanne uh and they're looking for that crazy woman, you know, and so I walk by and I go,
get back up there!
So they close again.
You're definitely getting sued.
But, you know,
I don't know, it's fun.
Can I ask you, I don't know. It's fun. Can I ask you?
I'm just so grateful that the Roseanne I know from text is now in public.
It's just so great.
I think you're an amazing person.
I've always thought that.
Oh, I want to say one more.
Are we ending?
Well, I'm going to ask you one more big question.
Oh, because I got something at the end.
Okay. You can hit him if you want. I'm not judging ask you one more big question. Oh, because I got something at the end. Okay.
You can hit them if you want.
I'm not judging.
You can hit that if you want.
You know, they say that the cigarettes kill the spike proteins.
I think there's some evidence that that's true.
But I'm not a physician, so I'm not going to.
Um, so. but I'm not a physician so I'm not gonna um so
do you guys know
how much I love you
so much
I love you all
so much
we're gonna win we're gonna win don't you doubt it for a minute I love you so much. I love you all so much.
We're going to win.
We're going to win.
Don't you doubt it for a minute.
So that, you got my question.
You anticipated it.
You really think Trump's going to win?
I don't know what in the hell is going to happen.
I mean, it could go so many different ways.
I don't know what's going to happen.
I'm being real honest. But you seem hopeful despite, you know, everything that you said.
Yeah, I'm hopeful because I know there's a God and, you know, God always wins.
Yeah. I know he's trying to wake us up. I know he's playing some kind of game with us where it's
like, no, that's not going to work anymore. You are going to have to repent. I think he's telling us, no, you're going to have to face
what you did and say you're sorry and make, you know, recompense for it and come to me with a
clean heart this time because we're not playing games no more. This is it. You want to save your
country, start with yourself. Start with loving each other and, you know, love me.
You want to save your country, start there.
Start at home.
I think that's what he's telling us.
I feel that so deeply.
I think you're exactly right.
Yes, I do.
If you want to save your country, start with yourself.
Tell the truth.
And be real about it.
Be rigorous about it.
And be brave. Be rigorous about it.
And be brave.
Be braver than you've ever been in your life.
Be brave.
Brave till it hurts.
Have courage.
Even when you're shaking in your boots,
do it anyway.
Do it for God.
Do it for Jesus.
Do it for Jesus.
You have to. there's no you
there's only God
right
my mind is completely blown
ladies and gentlemen
will you join me in applauding
no don't applaud I gotta tell you one more thing.
No, don't.
Shut up, everybody.
No, I got to tell you this one thing.
Because somebody was telling me, and so here's what I said.
She said, don't say it, but I'm saying it anyway.
I was on the phone and I said, you know what?
We have to save ourselves.
We have to do the work that Americans have to do.
Like I gave this speech about Henry Knox. Did you ever hear about Henry Knox and Fort Ticonderoga?
They dragged these cannons over ice with their feet, the leather of their shoes gave out, so they put rags on their feet to drag these cannons to get rid of the British, and they did it. It took them like four weeks to break
these cannons down and drag them over ice, bleeding, and they got all the farmers involved
to make sleds. All the farmers, everybody, every American of every walk
of life got involved together to make the sleds, to pull the cannons, to surround Boston, to win
the war. And that's what we have to do. We have to put rags around our feet, not just sit there on the internet. I'm telling you,
we have to, you know, this is what I want to see happen. We've got to march.
I think we have to march.
I think we've got to get all the truckers in our country
I think we have to get all the farmers in our country
I think we have to get everybody who's so pissed off
that they are going to try this shit again
and we're not going to let them
we have to say no
we have to say no
and they have to see us say no. We have to say no and they have to see us say no. They have to see us say no.
We can't be coward. We can't go, oh, I'm afraid they're going to dox me or fire me or I'm not going to get a paycheck. Fuck it. We have to go. We have to go.
I'm just putting it in your head. So if you hear about me organizing a great big frigging march,
think about coming.
And with that, can we applaud you now?
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