The Tucker Carlson Show - State of the Union response

Episode Date: March 8, 2024

Our response to Joe Biden's dark, un-American address to the nation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Good evening and welcome to Tucker Carlson Network Live. That was quite an experience watching that. You know, you think of Joe Biden as a doddering old man, a guy who can't remember when his son died or when he served as vice president. Of course, that's exactly who he is. And it's on display every day. But Joe Biden is also a cruel and vicious demagogue, a man who has no problem at all denouncing his fellow Americans or putting his political opponents in prison, as he has done. And that was all on display tonight. That was possibly the darkest, most un-American speech ever given by

an American president. In fact, it wasn't a speech. It was a rant entirely lacking in decency or generosity to his fellow Americans. In Joe Biden's very first sentence, he compared Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. He did not describe Trump as the other party's candidate, which he is, a political opponent in a country that's had peaceful elections for 250 years. No. According to Joe Biden, Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler. He is an existential threat to freedom and democracy. If he wins, you will die and so will your country. That was the first sentence, but that was really the last time he mentioned the United States at all for paragraphs and paragraphs, Biden quickly explained that actually his top priority has nothing to do with America. His top priority is sending

billions more to Ukraine. A foreign war in Eastern Europe, a war across the world that has nothing to do with the United States, that the United States is not obligated by any treaty to join. Of course, Ukraine is not a member of NATO, a war that can only hurt this country and already has hurt it in grave and permanent ways. The invasion of Ukraine is the most important thing to Joe Biden. Not ending the invasion of our own country by drug cartels, which control huge swaths of the southern United States at this point, not a degrading economy you experience every day, not a collapsing schools, schools where kids can't read at all, not the 100,000 fentanyl deaths every year, not the declining life expectancy that is obvious if you look around,

collapsing public health, an epidemic of suicide and murder, things that hurt Americans, ghost armies of drug addicts living on the streets, right outside the chamber where the speech was given tonight. None of that matters. Biden's top priority is aid for Ukraine. It was deranged. You watch this, you thought this is insane. Does anyone in the room think it's insane? They must. Here's how the Republican Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson of Louisiana, newly elected, the man who leads Republicans, in fact, the top elected Republican in the United States of America. Here's how he responded as Joe Biden told the country that the invasion of Ukraine is his top priority. Watch this. Overseas, Putin of Russia is on the march invading ukraine and sowing chaos throughout europe and beyond if anybody in this room thinks putin will stop at ukraine

i assure you he will not but you're trained But Ukraine, Ukraine can stop Putin. Ukraine can stop Putin if we stand with Ukraine and provide the weapons that needs to defend itself. My message to President Putin, who I've known for a long time, is simple. We will not walk away. We will not bow down. I will not bow down. This is crazy talk. There's no explanation of what the goal is here. There's lie after lie. Ukraine can stop Russia. No, it can't. This has gone on for over two years.

NATO was stronger than ever. No, it's not. This has gone on for over two years. NATO was stronger than ever. No, it's not. NATO was on its way to collapse, as is the economy of Western Europe. For not one sentence did Joe Biden explain what the goal of this exercise is, when we'll know we've won, and what the future should look like. Again, it was crazy talk. And yet, Mike Johnson, the Republican Speaker of the House, nodded gravely. Oh, of course, he is completely on board with Joe Biden on this Biden's signature issue. And that's not a guess. As of this afternoon, Mike Johnson is secretly supporting Biden's agenda, sending another $60 billion to the oligarchs in Ukraine. Johnson plans to let Democrats onto the floor of the

House to vote for this. This is a stealthy procedural move designed to shield him and other Republicans from criticism. Oh, the Democrats did it. But that's exactly what it is. He's the Speaker of the House. He could stop it, but he won't because he's on board. So why is he on board? Is Mike Johnson representing his own voters as he backs Joe Biden's signature agenda item, a war against Russia? No, he's not. Republican voters in Louisiana are not for this. Republican voters nationally are not for this.

They hate this. It has nothing to do with them. And it's insulting. As their country is invaded, we send billions to prevent the invasion of another country that we have nothing to do with. But the unit party demands this, so Mike Johnson is doing it. And so at some point you ask, well, why are they demanding this actually? Why is war with Russia the most important thing? If you look at the numbers or

a map, it wouldn't be obvious that Russia would be America's main enemy. There are other candidates. Could it be because Russia is the largest white Christian country in the world? Maybe. Could it be because they're getting rich from war? Well, that's certainly true. And there may be other reasons as well. We could guess. But we don't need to because we know that it's happening and we know that war against Russia is not the only war we're going to be engaged in and not the only one that Biden announced tonight. Biden also told the country that we're going to have boots on the ground in Gaza. Really? Or admitted it. In fact, American forces have actually been there for months. Did you know that? Did anyone ask you? Has anyone explained to you, no matter where your sympathies lie, what the point of this is? When we'll know we've won? What's the objective here?

American lives will be at risk. But of course, no one's told you. And of course, you already know the point. The point is to suck the United States into another foreign war that can't possibly help the United States, a war that can only hurt us and already is hurting us. And we're doing this not because it helps us, but because foreign interests are demanding that we do it. America is being used, as we so often have been. And the result of all of this is that the world is now closer to nuclear war at this moment than at any time in history, closer than it was during the Cuban Missile Crisis. We have no idea where this is going. You never do once people start to die, once wars begin. No PowerPoint can tell you, no speech to a joint session can tell you where this

is going. It's dynamic. It's completely unpredictable. And that's why wise people pause before accelerating. But there are no wise people in charge in either party, on either side. You think Tony Blinken, the Secretary of State, has any clue what will happen in a war with Russia? Of course not. You can't say where this is going. This is so reckless that it qualifies as suicidal. And maybe they are, but the rest of us aren't. But the most interesting fact of the speech was the emphasis. There was not a meaningful word for the entire duration about the things that actually matter to people who live here, like crime or inflation or fentanyl or the foreign army now occupying our country. Joe Biden doesn't care. There was no upside for you in any of the things that he said.

But he does have a present for you. He's got something to give you, something you want very badly. Here it is. Look, it's a decision to overturn Roe v. Wade. The Supreme Court majority wrote the following, and with all due respect, justices, women are not without electoral power, excuse me, electoral or political power. You're about to realize just how once you get variety. Clearly, those bragging about overturning the Roe v. Wade have no clue about the power of women. But they found out when reproductive freedom was on the ballot.

We won in 2022 and 2020 and we'll win again in 2024. Oh, well, you can't have a safe, clean country or groceries you can afford or schools that will educate your children, but you can't have abortion. You can have a lot more abortion. How about some more abortion for you? That'll make you happy and free. You can have all the abortions you want. But of course, you already could have all the abortions you want. Abortion is one thing, maybe the one thing that's pretty easy to get in this country. Compare getting an abortion to getting an affordable new roof or a knee replacement. No. Abortion is everywhere. It's very easy to get. And it's easy to get because the government wants it to be, of course, unlike an affordable new roof. But what's interesting is why,

of all the services government could guarantee, why abortion? At a time when fertility rates of actual Americans are below replacement, Biden and his party are encouraging Americans to have fewer children. Now, if you have a handheld calculator, do the math on that. That's the path to extinction. Why would they want that? You're the leader of a country. Why would you want your people to have fewer children? Hmm. You should ponder that. But let's say you're too old to have an abortion. Let's say it doesn't actually apply to you, this wonderful freedom that will make you happy. What can you do to guarantee that you will have no descendants? Well, you can always castrate your children and end your lineage. No more grandchildren. And Joe Biden wants to help. I want to protect fundamental

rights. Pass the Equality Act. My message to transgender Americans is I have your back. Oh, trans children, I have your back. That's not creepy. But that's what he's offering. Abortion, war, castration of children, not better roads and schools, cheaper electricity and food. No, abortion and war. Who wants all that? I mean, some tiny percentage of CNN contributors think those are the most important things, but most people would rather have cheaper electricity, cheaper food, better roads. And so what this means is that underneath all of the talk is a dire political reality. Joe Biden can't win. In a fair election, Joe Biden will lose in November. He cannot win. That's the thing that nobody in any media wants to say out loud. In a fair election,

Joe Biden cannot win. So they're saying the opposite. Here, for example, is the pregame analysis over at MSNBC, which we watch while waiting for Biden to daughter up to the stage, waiting for the amphetamines to take effect. And keep in mind, as you watch this analysis, these are supposedly the smart kids. These are the smart kids, the ones with complicated glasses. These are the ones the White House looks to for guidance. And here's their analysis of Joe Biden's skills. Watch this. This seems like a weirdly counterintuitive hot take, even though it's the most obvious thing you could say, which is that Joe Biden is good at politics.

Yes, he is. Joe Biden is good at politics. He's very good at politics. The man really doesn't know what he's doing. And you really see it in those sort of situations. Joe Biden is just really good at politics. It's the one thing he's really good at. Really? If Joe Biden is so good at politics, why is he losing to Donald Trump, who the rest of us were assured was a retarded racist, who no normal person would vote for? But now Joe Biden is getting stomped by Donald Trump, but he's also at the same time good at politics? Right. Chris Hayes, ladies and gentlemen, the most famous lesbian in television. So again, they can't win, but they're not giving up. So what does that tell you? Well, they're going to steal the election.

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of the Civil Rights Division. That is why we are challenging efforts by states and jurisdictions to implement discriminatory, burdensome, and unnecessary restrictions on access to the ballot, including those related to mail-in voting, the use of drop boxes, and voter ID requirements. That is why we are working to block the adoption of discriminatory redistricting plans that dilute the vote of black voters and other voters of color. Did you catch that? Of course, you're a racist. That's always the takeaway. But consider the details of what the attorney general of the United States just said. Mail-in balloting, drop boxes, voter ID requirements. The chief law enforcement officer of the United States government is telling you that it's immoral, in fact racist, in fact illegal

to ask people for their IDs when they vote to verify they are who they say they are. What is that? Well, no one ever talks about this, but the justification for it is that somehow people of color, black people, don't have state-issued IDs. Somehow they're living in a country where you can do virtually nothing without proving your identity with a government-issued ID without government-issued IDs. So they can't fly on planes. They can't have checking accounts. They can't have any interaction with the government, state, local, or federal. They can't stay in hotels. They can't

have credit cards because someone without a state-issued ID can't do any of those things. But what's so interesting is these same people, very much including the attorney general and the administration he serves, is working to eliminate cash, to make this a cashless society. Have you been to a stadium event recently? No cash accepted. You have to have a credit card. In order to get a credit card, you need a state-issued ID. And somehow, that's not racist. But it is racist to ask people to prove their identity when they choose the next president of the United States. So that doesn't make any sense at all. That's a lie. It's an easily provable lie. And anyone

telling that lie is advocating for mass voter fraud, which the attorney general is. There's no other way to read it. So you should know that. You live in a country where the attorney general is abetting, in fact, calling for voter fraud. And that's the only chance they have to get their guy reelected. Well, for a cooler, more measured take, we suspect, on what we just saw, we want to go. We are grateful to go to Victor Davis Hanson, who's a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. And he joins us now. Professor, thank you very much for coming on.

I want to start right at the outset, and I save this sound for your analysis because I think it'll be smarter than mine of the signature moment of the night, which was Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia confronting Joe Biden as he spoke. And here's what happened next. I'd be a winner not really. I... Lincoln... Lincoln Riley, an innocent young woman who was killed by an illegal. That's right. But how many of thousands of people being killed by legals? To her parents, I say, my heart goes out to you having lost children myself. I understand.

So what does you make of that? What does that mean, do you think? Well, I've never seen in general an angrier speech. I mean I think the left's happy because he didn't stumble but he only isn't coherent when he's full of venom and he's angry. This was Phantom of the Opera number two and I've never seen a president interact and yell at the opposition. And you know Tucker he attacked the Supreme Court and he was having a dialogue and invective against the Supreme Court justices in the chamber.

He's a very angry guy and you were absolutely right, he's a demagogue. It was lie under lie. I couldn't believe when he talked about the deficit and the debt. He's on schedule, if he were to be reelected, to run up $15 trillion. We're spending, borrowing I should say, or printing a trillion dollars every hundred days under him. We've never seen anything like it, $7 trillion. And yet he says he's lowered the debt or deficit. Same thing about the border. I know that Mitch McConnell made a fatal blunder by even negotiating with these guys,

and that was the whole purpose of the Democratic negotiation was this speech where they could say, well, they didn't sign on, but there's no need for laws. There's no need for more money. All Joe Biden had to do was just keep the policies in place. He had 100 executive orders to overturn everything. He let in almost 10 million people by design. He wanted to change the demographic. He wanted voters under mail-in and early voting protocols. And yet to stand there and just say that he's for the border closing was just a complete lie.

I don't think it's going to go over. I think it was a mean old man saying, get off my grass and I'm going to give you free stuff and print more money and then tell you that it's going to go over. I think it was a mean old man saying, get off my grass and I'm going to give you free stuff and print more money and then tell you that it's the rich that are the problem. I think the nadir though, Tucker, was not just the Marjorie Taylor Greene exchange, but when he said that he's getting tired of people not paying their income taxes when his son is now facing several felony counts for tax avoidance and he's got a lot of cash and he's never reported and he as soon as he's out of office if there's any justice in the world he'll face the same exposure as to honor so i know that the left will say well

he didn't stumble and he was vigorous and he was muscular but it was a muscularity and a vigor that was frightening because it was exactly like he did in that other speech about the semi-fascist and ultra-MAGA. And the idea that that buffoonish display in the rotunda for a few minutes was an insurrection and is the greatest threat to America since the Civil War. I think he forgot December 7th and World War II and World War I. But my God, he lives in an alternate universe well may i ask you a question about human nature so he didn't he didn't write this speech um his

staff wrote it they're not stupid and they told easily provable lies not just a few as politicians invariably do but but big ones. The Republicans are responsible for the spending and the border, et cetera, et cetera. Why do they do that? Does that work? If you repeat a lie often enough, does it become real? Like what's the thinking there, do you think? I think they think that lying on the border and lying on the budget and lying about abortion and lying about all these things will be resonated because they have confidence in the media. They feel they control social media, traditional media, new media, entertainment, and this will just reverberate as what you see every night on network news or MSNBC. But I don't think it's going to work because people have heard it before

and they look at the reality that the staples that make life possible, fuel and food and shelter, have gone up 30%. And he doesn't care. And when they look at the border, it's 8 to 10 million people who are swarming in the United States.

And he doesn't care. And when you look at abroad, he kept talking about Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. You want to think, okay, there's been four administrations. When did Putin go in? He didn't go in during Donald Trump, but he went in during Bush, and he went in Obama, and he went in yours. And you talk really tough on Ukraine, but you were the one that fled in disgrace from Afghanistan. You told the country you wouldn't react if it was a minor invasion of Ukraine. You talk about giving them aid. He froze $100 million. There was no Middle East war when Donald Trump was there, so the world fell apart when he came on the scene. He knows that.

I think they're going to be desperate. I think you're absolutely right about what the contours of the next election are gonna be. It's going to be Donald Trump is in January 6th, beat that dead horse. It's gonna be abortion. It's gonna be Donald Trump lawfare. And then it's going to be confidence in 70% of the electorate not voting in person on election day.

And that's all they have. Every single issue, people are sick of him. And I do have some confidence. I'm a little bit more optimistic when you look at that face and you see that reptilian grin and an anger and he screams for emphasis. He doesn't change his intonation or use his hands or try to smile. It's just very angry and full of venom as if all of the veneer of self-control of an earlier Joe Biden is gone now. And it's the real Joe Biden coming out. We've seen it before. And it's kind of frightening. I've never seen an angrier speech,

State of the Union, than that. Never. I don't think there's ever been one. Last question. If you were going to guess what happens as this unfolds, because there's no better big picture assessor than you, is Biden going to make it to November? Is there any chance he wins? I mean, what would you guess if you had to in March now? What happens?

I think for, yeah, I think tonight is what we saw with the first debate with Donald Trump. I think he was late tonight. I think they just have a two-day week. They rest him. And then for these iconic occasion occasion he looks angry and they consider that normal but campaigning he's not going to be able to campaign and I think that what we saw after the Robert Herr report that crazy press conference is going to be often and I think they're going to intercede

in the in the August convention and make the superdelegates decisive or open all the delegates up and see if they can get him off the ticket. Maybe tonight they don't think that, but they'll have a different view next week, the week after and the week after. I don't think this is going to help his polls at all. I think people are tired of the anger and the screaming and the whole tempo. But I'm very worried that if Donald Trump has to campaign in 50 states,

and whether we like it or not, he's gonna have to unite the party, and I think he can, but they don't have any margin of error. He's gonna have to be the first Republican president to get 51% of the vote since 1988, and they've lost seven out of the last eight popular presidential, popular votes.

And they don't have a good record, the orthodox Republican establishment. So Trump's going to have to reach to every community. He's going to have to campaign, and he's going to have to bring people together. And he has no margin of error because they control the balloting in these swing states. And so it's going to be the most raucous, nastiest, loudest election in our lifetime. And I'm really worried about it. But I have confidence in the American people. And I think what they saw tonight was an old man raging and ranting and barking at the moon.

There's been, I would say, an unprecedented crackdown on civil liberties during the Biden administration. If Trump loses, does that abate or does it accelerate? Do more people go to jail if Biden wins or loses? Well, if Biden wins, I think we're in trouble because we've seen what Merrick Garland did when they were afraid of being, whether they would be reelected or not. If he's reelected and he has four years, there's no bridles. And if he should win, he you look at the FBI, the CIA, the DOJ, the IRS under his control, they weren't vindictive. They didn't go after their political enemies. He may talk tough, but he's not a vindictive person. And I think he has moments after the Iowa primary, and when he talks about getting even by being successful, that he's got an NM to unite the country. Biden doesn't. And I think Trump could.

And I hope that he campaigns in the inner city. I hope he campaigns in places like where I live in the Central Valley. There's people that want a reason to vote for him. They're sick of Biden. And they feel that he did a good job. And all he has to do is appeal to that. And I hope he does. I hope so, too. Victor Davis Hanson, thank you so much for that. I appreciate it. Thank you. It's nice to see you. Your identity is constantly under attack. And just the last year, Americans lost over $16 billion to scammers online. Anyone can fall victim to this. Your social security number, your bank account, your credit profile can be exposed and you won't even know it. And the second they are exposed, thieves can take out loans to your name, open credit cards, wreck your life financially.

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I can do as good as you, but I'm blessed to be here. Great crew, great people, great to be here with you. So what, I mean, just give me your big picture assessment of that. I got to say, because we didn't even meet before we went on air. I was downstairs writing notes, and you basically said everything I was going to say, and so did the doctor. but you asked him a question out of the gates. You said, why do they lie so much? They think we're dumb or what's going on. Yeah. They want to tell so many lies that you don't have time to counter them all. Cause it would

take five hours to counter all that. I mean, I gave up in my note taking. Yeah. Everything was a lie. And I mean, the biggest one was like, yeah, this woman got killed by a legal alien. We're trying to stop that. I want to shut down the border. He said, when I win, immediately surge the border. And then they had the big NGOs, the state department that funds the UN NGOs, have all the illegals come up here. They have UN camps in South America and Central America and in Mexico. And he's running it all. He says, come here. They show up by the thousands in Biden shirts. So he's like, I'm so sad. The illegal aliens are killing you. And many of them are convicted felons, a large portion. And then he's acting dumb and saying, oh no, no, I'm really sad.

Illegal aliens are raping and murdering citizens. So just that little window there, he's playing the good cop to his own globalist policies. Everything that the State Department, the Victoria Newlands want, and you're absolutely right. First, he comes out and says, Trump is Hitler, and then he moves on to Ukraine. So it's not about the dying cities, not about the fentanyl and the needles and the illegal aliens everywhere and the homeless everywhere. It's all about Ukraine because that's their big model to distract us and also launder money. So this is a very, very dangerous moment for America. And your last guest was dead on. He and the whole establishment is so emblematic of a rotting, collapsing facade that knows the people have

turned against it. And it's just pure rage. All the fakeness, all the pop and serpent stance has been stripped away. And now there's just this seething ancient dinosaur. In fact, I was watching, you know, earlier during the state of the union and then sitting here watching earlier, I was thinking, how do I start this? I want to say, it's like, we're in a time machine looking back on the age of the dinosaurs, the paleolithic or something, or, or, or I mean, we're looking back because time is compressed now. So we're here looking at a dying, corrupt, dead political empire that hates America and is trying to use our power to take over the world.

And it's already gone. The world's turning against it. The Great Awakening's here. All the numbers show it. And they're trying to hang on. And so we're looking back at Jurassic Park. We're looking back at the dinosaurs. But instead, the dinosaurs are trying to claw us back into hell.

I mean, take World War II. Operation Valkyrie was the German general staff who were Nazis and bad guys, but they were like, we're going to lose the Russians. We're going to lose the Americans. We're going to lose the Allies. A year and a half before the war ended, let's kill Hitler. But they failed. It's the same thing. The globalist program has failed, but they're thinking, well, if we just enslave people and arrest people and do all this,

they'll shut up and go away. The new world order has already failed. The question is, when Hitler knew who was going to lose, he wrote and said, if the Germans fail on the Eastern Front with the Russians, all the Germans deserve to die. They failed in their week. And so he flooded the German subways. He let the whole Russian army come in. 25 million Germans died. 26 million Russians died.

Most of World War II was the Russians and the Nazis killing each other. And so it's kind of that same thing. The left's saying, if we're going down, we're taking you all with us. And then we have Klaus Schwab saying, you will eat bugs. We have Tyson Foods saying, we're moving in with crickets as the main batter for your chicken and everything else. I mean, they're really, you've all know Harari was on late night comedy just last night. And he's like, yeah, the age of humans is over.

And then the talk shows agreed yeah we need computers to decide everything programmed by the globalists so all they're offering is more of the same and if we just fully reject them which is happening they will fall away but they're trying to claw us down to hell with them it does almost seem like i mean flirting with nuclear war which they are doing on multiple fronts with no plan whatsoever at all. We're going to finish the job. They never explained what the job was. That's suicidal.

I mean, it's not, right? It's not going to help them. It's psychotic. It is psychotic. So it does feel like the leaders of the society are trying to destroy the society. And again, I go back to Hitler, who in his own writings, this is not my opinion. He's like, the Germans deserve to die. So we're just going to stand here at Berlin.

And they're like, sir, the Russians have entered the subways, flood it. And they go, sir, we've got a million Germans, families, children in the subways. He said they deserve to die. So the left is not giving up because they're disconnected from reality. Unlike German soldiers who were fighting for an evil force, but they were at least fighting, the left live in high-rise apartments. They're disconnected from reality. And to them, it's all like a video game. And they don't realize, as you were just saying, Macron three weeks ago, yeah, we're going to have a national draft. We may have to send troops in to fight the Russians directly. The British Ministry of Defense, the Swedish Ministry of

Defense, NATO officially. Yeah. And you've got Sean Penn saying, you know, we shouldn't have nuclear war off the table. It's survivable. What does he know about nuclear war? And so you can see it. It is a... Sean Penn said nuclear war is survivable? If you look it up, he's like, the quotes basically, a lot of people say we shouldn't use nuclear weapons in Ukraine or against the Russians. Well, we shouldn't take that off the table. And so that's the mindset of these people. To them, it's like a video game, and they know they're losing their power. They have this relish of control. Hollywood's collapsed. Mainstream media's collapsed. I mean, CNN's top show, 100,000 viewers. I was down there in your studio entrance watching this before we went live,

and I was writing notes, and I was like, I haven't watched this in years. And, again, I was like studying. I hadn't either. I was like an anthropologist, like studying some ancient tribe that died and watching them all. Well, he's old, but he's really smart, and he's great. And they were all like these talking points regurgitating him. And I was like, but I get it.

Because unlike an ancient tribe that died 10,000 years ago, they're still in control of nuclear weapons. So we need to study them. So nicely put. If the hallmark of evil is deception, I think we can say that we're looking at evil. I mean, if you're telling if the basis of your entire program is a lie, it's not just spinning it a little bit. It's a lie. It's like it's the inversion of the truth. And they know it's a lie. And they know it's a lie. Then, I mean, isn't that evil? What's the other definition? Well, that's really it. We have to realize evil is lying, like in your own life. As I I lie but I was a kid I lied someone I was an adult as I get older lies have consequences

my whole life is now about not ever telling them yes like catching myself being honest my wife's like you look at that girl yeah I am sorry instead of like oh no I'm not because your mind gets trained to be accurate when you stop lying yes instead when you lie it's a disease and then you it takes you over and these people are literally cancer and they can find all this fodder and all these mercenaries that'll read their talking points but as negative as it is tucker you know this what three four percent have taken the new booster shots and when they rolled the first shot was like 70 people are rejecting it but there's the converse of that the dying establishment like when a woman tries to leave a man that's beating her they're going to try to break our

jaw in the parking lot we're trying to get the car they're trying to keep us from escaping and so we're at that point we're trying to get the station wagon with the kids we're trying to pile them in and you know the you know the drunk mean you know is right there punching us in the face. But at the end, we're getting out of Dodge. We're leaving Egypt. We're going on to the promised land here. And it's going to take that archetype of the promised land. It's going to take 40 years or whatever out in the wilderness, but at least we're not going to be slaves anymore.

So we're in that process of emancipation right now. They're pissed. They're freaking out because they want control. Any fulfilled person is out fishing or hunting or hanging with family like you and I are. There's a beautiful sunset. We're having a great dinner, playing with our dogs, our cats, our kids. These people are not fulfilled. They don't have that. If you study globalists, they are the most empty. You look at Soros or Alexander Soros. I mean, they have nothing. So they're projecting their hatred, just like a Hitler or Stalin Stalin or a Lenin, on us.

We've got to realize they are mentally ill. They are sick. They are cancer. They're malfunctioning. We don't hate them. We just politically cut them out and separate them from the rest of society. And we're at that point right now of the surgery. America and the world is going under the knife.

And let's hope and pray that it's a successful surgery. Because if it's not, World War III. it's just amazing that they tried to cancel you and what you just said even if you know people don't agree with whatever it's so much more interesting and smart than anything ever uttered on cnn or msnbc and i worked at those channels so i know for a fact so i just think well they just want to be called out you know that you know better than i do we're just real people there's no teleprompters you know other than like i have a few notes you have a few notes of stuff you wrote yourself any that's those are my notes no but it's different when you it's different when you write the teleprompter just like i have in my office i have a teleprompter sometimes too i'll when i have time i'll write

what i want to say my talking points but it's it's your words it's my words but it's cnn and fox news and other places you know they're loading it for you the difference is we write our own notes here so what's the experience not to get sidetracked but it was so interesting what you said about your commitment to just telling the truth um in in your personal life and in your professional life what's the effect on you once you decide i'm going to really try not to lie at all ever your brain is a powerful all our brains are a powerful electrochemical computer and so when you so it's like ai when they corrupt ai and give it some woke agenda it doesn't work right it messes up you see the gemini thing with google then it messes the whole thing up they wanted a little

bit of erase the white people not totally erase them so it backfired down google's down 70 billion market cap huge scandal because it's so ridiculous so from my own research and studying mainline literature and scientific research on it but i've already experienced it so under the research i went out and found that what i'd already experienced was real when you tell your brain to lie or not be honest you're really lying to yourself and then you start using all this brain capacity to figure out the lie and to then try to project things to cover up the lie. When you get into a – I'm at a neurotic level. I go on the air and talk bad about myself and bad things.

People say, why is he doing that? Because the more I do it, the more my brain cleans out, and now it's just laser-focused, and now I know things much clearer. And so it's like removing computer viruses. And so when you get to the point of just not lying, I mean, I used to tell lies every day. Leftists tell lies continually. The thing is, you go to the other extreme, all you do is tell lies. So when you start moving away from lies, you get to the point where, well, I told one lie this week and that was terrible because it's robbing from you, not just people you're lying to. So I've gotten to the point of almost zero lying.

And it's super empowering. And again, it's cleaning out your computer to where your brain can then operate, not worrying about telling lies. It can just say what's accurate. That's amazing. I strongly sense that what you just said is the key to everything, to tell the truth, period, no matter what. It is. And that means sometimes it's painful.

Because I don't want to hurt people's feelings, but at the end of the day, we just got to say this. I mean, we got to say it. So back to the behavior, the impulses, the motives of the people running things. Obviously, they're incompetent that's demonstrable but they're also kind of monomaniac like they're very focused on certain hatreds and i just judging by what they say their main hatred is for white people who are the majority of the country they talk about it constantly they've set up a whole regime to

punish white people on the basis of their skin color you're not allowed to mention it you're the racist okay got it but i don't think i've ever seen it on clearer display than in a now sort of famous MSNBC segment from last week. I hate to even play their garbage, but this is just so amazing. I have to play it for you. Why are white rural voters a threat to democracy at this point? You would think, as we pointed out, looking at Joe Biden's background and Donald Trump's, that the opposite would be true. I mean, we lay out the fourfold interconnected threat that white world voters pose to the country. First of all, and we show 30 polls and national studies to demonstrate this. We provide the receipts in Chapter 6. They're the most racist, xenophobic,

anti-immigrant and anti-gay geodemographic group in the country. Second, they're the most conspiracist group. QAnon support and subscribers, election denialism, COVID denialism, and scientific skepticism, Obama birtherism. Third, anti-democratic sentiments. They don't believe in an independent press, free speech. They're most likely to say the president should be able to act unilaterally

without any checks from Congress or the courts or their bureaucracy. They're also the most strongly white nationalists and white Christian nationalists. And fourth, they are most likely to excuse or justify violence. So there's so many things that are interesting about what those two pigs are saying on television. And the most interesting to me is that white rural voters are, of course, the weakest people in America. When rural people period or the rural people.

That's exactly right. Regardless of race. But that none of the supposed crimes that he mentioned, whether they're true or not, are crimes of action. They're all thought crimes. And so they're the most dangerous people in the country, not because they're killing others or embezzling money or getting rich through the carried interest loophole or starting wars, pushing people in front of subway trains. They're the most dangerous because they have thoughts that those two pigs don't like. It's so interesting. Well, this is the whole key.

And, of course, what you played, as I know you're a newsman like I am, is just emblematic of all of it. That is the Carnegie Foundation. That's the CIA. That's the liberation theology at the universities. know the world's 93 not white so they think well we'll control these people who are exploiting by making all their ills about rural white people uh in america you go to rural areas i don't care if you're black hispanic white people are all basically populist they're conservative they know what's going on they live on the land they're not stupid and they haven't done anything to anybody that's the remarkable the lowest crime rate well

yeah like what's their crime well their attitudes are bad like they will kill people for having the wrong attitudes i mean that's what they're saying and that's what it comes down to if you remember in june of 2001 when biden had just stolen the election in my view and gotten into power he put out that national anti-terrorism perspective national directive and he said white supremacism is the number one threat then he defined white supremacism as questioning lockdowns or open borders or forced shots and and so it's real simple that MSbc talking point from 10 years ago that all republicans are racist they're trying to codify the law and then define racist as anyone that doesn't want to give up their cows or their farm or be a slave so what they're threatened by is self-sufficient people

because it's a military takeover by the left and and by the who and we talked about this when i was on three or four months ago on your show out of Maine, they are literally understanding we've got the cities, we're about to take the dollar, we're collapsing the border, who is the opposition? They're already lazing the target that it's the rural people. Remember I said next it's get the rurals, they're the enemy, and now that talking point is everywhere. I probably saw that clip 30 times the last week, 50 times the last month. And that's their next target.

Just like when Lenin and Trotsky and Stalin took over just Moscow and a few cities, took them five years to take over Russia. Who was the target? The farmers. The kulaks. Because they produced the food. And if you get them, now you've got everybody. So they're doing, as you did a few weeks ago with that incredible lady,

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illegally into the country. So we used to hear Chamber of Commerce, the farm lobby would say, we need the labor. No one's saying that now because we don't need the labor. And people say, well, we're doing it because you know there's some reason we're doing it i haven't heard one person including joe biden tonight explain why have they done this what is the purpose well i love how you played merrick garland earlier and he's like oh there's all these races they're trying people from voting how many cities how many blue cities let illegals vote in san francisco they put a foreigner not even a citizen on the board of elections in in san francisco yeah chinese national absolutely so so yeah like a chi-com

so they they're just normalizing this and of course you had you know colonel mcgregor on a few days ago and he said literally they're bringing in the foreign army but it won't happen overnight with you in blue helmets it's just they're now your police. They've already purged the military. They bring them in. They'll follow orders. This is very simple. So Rome took 400 years of bringing in foreign troops to fall.

They didn't do it on purpose. But the globalists look at 1984 as fiction, or they look at Rome, which was historical, and they go, that is a blueprint. That is an owner's manual. That is a battle plan. So that's what the Great Reset is. It's accelerating the collapse of Western civilization because you don't want it around to compete with the globalist model of eat the bugs and enslavement and collapse.

So they're actively seeing prosperity and Christian nationalist freedom. God forbid the rest of the world pick up Western culture. So you brand it as racist. You say it's bad because it's like kryptonite to Superman or holy water and high noon to a vampire. If people say, I want my Second Amendment, I want my due process, I want my capitalism, well, then it's over for the Black Rocks and the Googles and the Facebooks. So that's why they're fundamentally branding freedom as a white evil thing, because let's

face it, Western civilization did develop from Greece on this incredible thing that could uplift humanity. So you discredit it by making it racial instead of selling it to the world and having everyone adopt it and creating a unification, not through centralization or enslavement, but through adoption because it works so well. And so the globalist tyrants are fundamentally threatened by Western Christian civilization, and that's why they're at war with it, which is why we should embrace it. And that's the great numbers of double the blacks voting for Trump or triple the Hispanics what we just saw 10 years ago.

And that's why they're in full panic mode trying to bring in totally uninformed foreigners from all over who they control and who they can run through NGOs hoping that they'll be the savior. So as negative as all this is, I see this as the panic button being hit. So what's the right response for normal people in a moment like this? I think they have to promote your show, which is the number one show in the world. I mean, not just in news, but just in commentary. I mean, it is. You're up there and Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson. I'm down below that.

But I'm really pleased to see you reaching hundreds of millions of people every day. And really, that's not about Tucker Carlson, though it is about you, but that's secondary. It's about people resonating with that, shows they have the instinct and the spirit for victory. And people love you, black, white, old, young, it doesn't matter. And promoting other shows. And then also not being intimidated by leftist bullying

and standing up at school boards and county commissions and running for office and really being peaceful but extremely aggressive about defending our rights and realizing we predicted, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, so many others, everything that's now come to pass. We're actually on the mark. We actually want a civilization. We want prosperity. I liken it to I'm selling for free.

I'm giving away ice cold water with lemon in it in the Sahara Desert. And the left's selling sand in the Sahara Desert. You know, I mean, this is insane. They're selling things that go against you'll have nothing. You'll eat bugs. You'll drink sewage water. Your families are horrible. You said earlier, we offer abortion and cutting your your

son's penis off it's like it's hellraiser and when you just sit back and go wait this can't be real klaus schwab is promoting stuff that sounds like hellraiser well so was hitler so was stalin and we realized that this is a evil manifestation that crops up in our in our species of bad people want power the problem is good people don't seek power because we're going to be left alone, hang with our families, go fish, go hunt, go to dinner, go play golf. I'm the same way.

But I'm sorry, folks. Good people can't sit there and say, I'm too good for this because we will be destroyed if we don't. And that's what evil fears. So the good men and women are now standing up and we're super popular. Every popular talk shows, there's no one. Even Bill Maher poses as a conservative now. And I hope

he comes all the way over a populist. There's no one that's popular promoting the new world order. So I'm saying look at the positiveness of how humans desire and like a man in the desert wants water freedom. And all we're doing is promoting the natural programming that works. And so it's easy. We're the winners. We're the victors. We're not the cancer. We're following the program God gave us that is like oxygen.

And we have to just declare the enemy cancer and just say we're done. Shun them. Don't engage in violence. They want that. And just give them no support and the maximum back the truth. And we will win. Wow. I, I, as I listened to you talk, I'm like, why, why is Alex Jones getting canceled? Well, you haven't been canceled. Thank God. Well, they tried. I mean, they tried, but thanks to you, you were big, big, you were,

listen, I'm not kissing your ass or anybody's ass, but, but, but Trump helped break the back of, of political correctness, but you helped break the back of political correctness. But you helped break the back, the critical person in the censorship. And you were there boosting me on Fox when nobody else was. And you took us over the top because you recognize that they can get Alex Jones, they can get anybody. And so it's true, Tucker. Well, I mean, I've defended a million people just on principle. But as I listened to you talk, I was like, well, where's the crazy stuff?

This is really smart, actually. And I think I've always thought that. I mean, agree or disagree, it's not shallow at all. So I'm grateful for that. you think that as things get more intense, which they will, the people in charge desire violence or trying to provoke a violent. Absolutely. They can't win in a peaceful fight. But you have said contrary to what they say about you, you've said, no, no, remain peaceful period.

Absolutely. I mean, what they do is anytime you're watching corporate establishment enemy media, you'll see a three second clip that that's not, folks, you're being deceived when you see that. So I'll say like, this is satire. It's the modest proposal by the famous IRS essayist and satirist Swift that if the world collapses, I'll eat my neighbors. This is a joke. But I go, collapse of the world leads to that. They go, look, he just said I'll eat my neighbors. They're deceiving. It's like that refrigerator game where you have all the little words and you can move the words around and say whatever you want. They basically take our words, move them around, and that's a deception. But when you look at what they're saying, conservatives and populists and Christians are going to kill people and they're going to murder people and Trump is going to be a dictator

and he's planning to, you know, enslave everybody. But meanwhile, they're the ones taking him off the ballot. They're the ones indicting him. They're the ones saying, I mean, the Atlantic monthly, that's the mouthpiece of Soron. The mouth of Satan came out two weeks ago and said, the headline was something like, even if Trump wins, we're just going to block him. Well, all Trump did was say, I want a 10-day investigation, which is constitutional. They said, they were honest. They said, even if he wins, we'll just decertify him. So they've basically indicted him in Georgia for saying, let's investigate.

They're openly saying, we're going to disqualify him, and then it's okay. So again, there's a murder of logic, And people see that and they're saying, oh, Trump is going to engage in terror and there's white supremacists everywhere. So I think you can do two plus two equals four. We know false flags are real. Provocateurs are real. We know they tried to stage the kidnapping of Governor Whitmer. In multiple trials, people got released.

They finally got the third trial, sent a few to prison, where you've got a bunch of marijuana. You've covered it in detail. A bunch of of potheads friendly little guys that are homeless and then they tell them we'll give you ten thousand dollars a month if you just meet with us and just say you'll kidnap whitmer so you're going to see a lot more of that and and i just we need to disavow that because that doesn't fix it we're winning the the culture war, so they want to induce us into violence. And they've said they're introducing legislation, the Democratic Party in the House and Senate, to strip Trump of the Insurrection Act, which George Herbert Walker Bush used during

the L.A. riots. And they're saying, oh, we know when he gets elected, if he does, there's going to be huge uprisings and he's a white supremacist. So we've got to drive him from office that way. So they're planning to torch the country when he's president elect before he's in and try to intimidate everyone. So Black Lives Matter and Antifa and all of this Hezbollah Hamas protests. And again, I'm not against, I'm not for the war. I don't like how far Israel's gone. But they're invoking that and hyping that up now as their third rail or their fifth column is the Islamicist to then burn the country down within weeks of him being president-elect and thinking they can

terrorize the American people and the establishment into removing Trump somehow during that period. They've already pre-announced that. So I'm telling you now, eight months out, that's their plan. You mentioned the Atlantic, which is owned by a tech oligarch, Steve Jobs' widow. And almost everything bad in the country is financed by the richest people in the country, I've noticed, the oligarchs. And so all the money is kind of arrayed against the population of the country. That worries me.

Can you throw off the yolk if the yolk has, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars? I think we are, thanks to Elon Musk. I mean, you can say what you want about Elon Musk with all his past activities. He's trying to dominate every technological sector. But Christ said, judge a tree by its fruits. Yes. And the last two years, let's say it's a 360 like right here's new world order and right here's total patriot Musk was already over here he wasn't a bad

guy but he wasn't perfect he's moved basically a 360 a 180 yeah so he's uh like like Alec I mean look you're you're the biggest guy in media you No. No, no, no, it's true. It's not about bragging. It's true. You're the biggest mainline talk show host. I say mainline professional show. Okay, and there's a lot of people under you like me. Elon Musk is way bigger than both of us.

He's reaching 100 million, 200 million people a day with stuff you would say, or I would say he's devastating them. You don't do that if you're with them. So Elon Musk is definitely for real because you can't argue that if you're with them so elon musk is definitely for real because you can't argue with the with the results right okay that's just the way the universe works this is being powered by x right now i should just say no exactly so and he's not censoring us no in fact he's boosting us probably so so the point is by boosting getting out of the way so they are they've already lost the culture war. So you can just say Musk, maybe he's an opportunist. He sees the old systems going down. He's shifting over. That's

if he's a bad guy. If he's a good guy, he really cares about us and is a humanitarian and a bleeding heart for freedom and has joined us. But you can't argue with what he's done. But, but back to the violence, they have nothing they can do now but violence. And so we are entering that wheelhouse. We are entering that zone where they're telling us we're violent, they're telling us we're evil, they're telling us we're white supremacists, we're not. And so it's obvious that that is about to basically unfold. But I want to tell the establishment, five years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, you'd stage a false flag or provocateur or something. It worked. It doesn't work on thinking people now. And it works on less people every day.

So I would just advise the globalists give up. So you're pretty famous, not famous enough for seeing events in some detail ahead of time. You're the only person I think in the world who called 9-11 in detail. You're on tape doing it. They're going to fly planes in the World Trade Centers and blame Bin Laden. That's what you said. I played the tape. So given your demonstrated ability to get a pretty clear sight picture of the future, where do you think we are in five years? We're either in heaven or hell. It's the best of times or worst of times. Tell two cities. It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. We are in the crossroads right now. We're going across the point of return and we have maximum

effort to expose the evil and be honest ourselves about the problems we have and really try to empower people and reach out across political lines and and and really turn things around we have unlimited potential but i would have to say if you look into the future and it's not like into crystal ball it's just all the political lines all the data it's a very i wouldn't say a probability but near probability nuclear war and i have four children one i'm six years old it I have nightmares about this because I know this is real I agree I agree with you I don't say this for for like fear porn I mean I mainline analyst the atomic you know scientist group says we're two minutes to midnight it's the closest ever been or like a thing like a minute to midnight uh and and so we have to turn this around because we are entering the system where we're entering the house of

destruction and we're so close. So the Chinese proverb of live in interesting times is both positive and negative. We're in very interesting times, the most interesting probably ever in human history. We have like God-like power, but we're actually decadent slobs, myself included. And so really it's all up to us right now. We are at that point of decision. And if we can get past the partisanship, but that doesn't mean then embrace the globalists and the corporate fascists. No, reject them.

And as populists, Christians, conservatives, Hindus, Jews, Christians, Muslims, reject BlackRock, reject Klaus Schwab, reject Naval Noah Harari, who says the future is not human and we're obsolete and robots will run our lives in a decade. No, we humans are the only species that truly controls this environment. So he wants us to decide we're animals and we're just receiving information. No, we're going to decide a pro-human future. We're going to decide to buy things from farms and factories where humans built it. We're going to decide to control our environment and not accept

this big carbon tax system that's meant to make us accept the anti-human environment. So we have to decide our future now, our destiny now, with our actions and with our money and with our will, then push that and reject everything that Hollywood and the corporate media

push. If you just, it's real simple. You can study it all day like I do and like Tucker does, and you can know all the nuances and fight it all day, which I want you to do because it's fascinating. Or you can just say, whatever Disney and whatever Viacom and whatever CNN tells me, I do the opposite. You'll do quite well doing that. I should say, not to be dark,

but human beings, among other unique qualities, are also the only species that commit suicide. You're right. Well, exactly. We have that paradox because we control our environment. What animal would think to commit suicide? Right. I mean, lemmings run off a cliff on accident.

Buffalo do it, but they don't do it on purpose. Very well said. Exactly. So we have that heaven and hell. We have that potential of the little g god. I mean, what science fiction writers like Jules Verne Exactly. So we have that heaven and hell. We have that potential of the little G God. We have what, I mean, what science fiction writers like Jules Verne's 140 years ago wrote about, like rockets that take off, go to the moon and come back and land again. Elon Musk has done it.

Whatever we can envision, it's not like Oprah's secret where it instantly happens, but with the potential of technology and society, and like Elon says, a big enough population, you need billions to build infrastructures that can do anything. And then once you realize the planet's tiny and there's hundreds of billions of galaxies that are close, I mean, we can see, then you go, oh, my God, we're like embryonic right now. We're like a tadpole.

And we're not just like, can we turn into a frog? We're going to turn into a butterfly. It turns into a spaceship that turns into a god, basically. And so we're a tadpole right now. We can do anything. And they're trying to tell us, no, no, you're scum. You're ugly. You're racist. Kill each other because the globalists want to extract out of us that essence of infinity that God's given us, that God essence. We're not God, but we're little G that the first book of the Bible tells us. They want to extract that and use that for their life extension, their empowerment, their greedy control,

instead of all of us sharing this incredible magic metamorphosis we're about to have. And they're trying to block the birth pains of what we're about to become, but I can tell them you're going to fail. I mean, when they go after the interesting people, that's when you know you're in trouble. I always think that about what they did to you. Alex Jones, you greatly improved and enlivened us.

Tucker, thanks for having me. For your wisdom. Are you kidding? I'm at InfoWars.com right now, and we're very close to being shut down. But just like Tucker, it's going to be okay. But it's like they say in Empire Strikes Back, Imperial troops fitter the base in InfoWars, so I'm about to get taken out, but it's okay. But it's like they say in Empire Strikes Back, Imperial troops fitter the base in Info Wars, so I'm about to get taken out, but it's okay. I love you. The best.

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