The Tucker Carlson Show - The 9/11 Files: The CIA’s Secret Mission Gone Wrong | Ep 1

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

A former FBI agent who was embedded in the CIA’s Bin Laden unit, Mark Rossini, claims the CIA was fully aware that the 9/11 hijackers were in the United States planning an attack. Rather than inform... the FBI, the CIA tried to recruit two of the hijackers for a “false-flag” operation, which quickly spiraled out of control. The failed mission raises urgent questions about government secrecy, intelligence failures, and what really happened before 9/11. We’ve centralized all the evidence, key players, and timeline into this Watch Companion: www.tuckercarlson.com/the-911-files-watch-companion-ep-1. Paid partnerships with: MeriwetherFarms: Visit https://MeriwetherFarms.com/Tucker and use code TUCKER76 for 15% off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 For 24 years now, politicians, the media, intel agencies in this country and abroad have all demanded that you believe the official story about 9-11, and here's what it is. They tell you a group of Al-Qaeda-affiliated terrorists, many of whom were known to U.S. intel services, somehow managed to evade capture for years as they planned the most significant and elaborate terror attack in human history. We're told that despite repeated encounters with the FBI, the CIA, local law enforcement, airport security, foreign intel organizations, the right information somehow never made it to the right people.
Starting point is 00:00:41 The government failed because it just didn't have the intelligence it needed. That's the story. That story is a lie. Nearly 25 years later, the families of 3,000 civilians are still mourning the murder of their loved ones. Anyone who doubts the official narrative is cast as a kook, a criminal, a fringe, conspiracy theorist and punished. They've been blacklisted and censored and banned. Even as the leaders who failed to protect our country on 9-11 use these attacks as a pretense to expand their
Starting point is 00:01:12 own powers and permanently transform the United States. None of this is speculation. All of it is true. Over the course of this series, you will hear accounts from people who lived it. CIA officers and analysts who were theirs, FBI agents from the bin Laden unit, family members of the victims. None of these people are cooks. All of them have firsthand information. What they'll tell you is that what you have been told about September 11th is not true. Why are we doing this? Our purpose is in part to make the strongest possible case for a real investigation into 9-11, 25 years later, a new 9-11 commission, one that is honest, one that is not guided by partisan political interests, one that is not serving foreign powers. To do this investigation, we spent many months looking into what actually
Starting point is 00:02:04 happened and speaking to people who saw it. We poured over thousands of pages of documents, mostly primary sources, but also contemporaneous news reports and declassified government documents. Over the course of this investigation, we made numerous findings that shocked us, not least of which, the apparent role that former CIA director John Brennan played in helping bring the 9-11 hijackers, to the United States, and the remarkable lengths the CIA went to to protect the 9-11 hijackers from the FBI and from domestic law enforcement. Telling the full story requires starting before the attacks, going back to something called Alec Station, that was the CIA's bin Laden unit in 1999.
Starting point is 00:02:49 My name is Mark Rossini. I'm a former FBI agent. So from January 1999 to May of 2003, I was the FBI, New York Joint Terrorism Task Force representative to Alex Station at CIA headquarters. Before 9-11, there were no sources in al-Qaeda. None. There was a group of Pashtun caretakers, okay? They called them the Trod Pines. Tad Pints were these Pashtun people that were bin Laden's tea boys and tea gals, right? And they were the great source of the Pakistani Intel service
Starting point is 00:03:30 that was feeding information from the Trad Pines to the ISI to the CIA about what was going on in Al-Qaeda. They had all the electronic communication satellite shit in the world. I remember looking at images that have been lauding, you know, in his courtyard. Fine. But what's in his head? What's he saying? What's he's doing?
Starting point is 00:03:51 These people are 10,000 miles away. They don't give a shit about America. although I don't care about going to jail. They want to die. How are you going to get a source inside there? Before September 11th, U.S. Intel Services got most of their intelligence on bin Laden from what was called the Hada Home Switchboard in Sana Yemen. That was a communications hub that bin Laden and his associates used to communicate with each other.
Starting point is 00:04:13 They were at the time living in Yemen. The FBI gained access to this after the 1998 embassy bombings in East Africa. How did we officially get the Hara home in Sanei Yemen on the books, on the radar, if you will? Nairobi, 1998, August 7th. John Antishe, Special Agent John Anteuf, greatest FBI agent ever in the FBI, even better than me. John flies over to Nairobi, and one of the survivors, one of the perpetrators who chickened out and ran and lived, Daoud Rashid al-Lawali, Saudi, he gets captured by the Kenyan police. John flies over from New York, and already there have been two FBI agents interviewing Daoud.
Starting point is 00:05:02 They were getting someplace, but they really weren't getting that far, right? John walks in. And first thing he does, he says, you need some water? You want to drink? Did you eat today? Did you pray? Are you okay? Yeah, I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. He said, just relax. Just, just, just, just, let's have a chat. He didn't beat him with a phone book. He didn't fucking waterboard room. He didn't pull his fingernails out. He wasn't Mr. Tough guy, like all these fucking assholes like Dick Cheney want to believe, right? All pieces of shit. He talked to him like a human being. Take me through the day. Talk to me. Well, I went to the hotel and I got my stuff ready. And did you, did you call any? anybody? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I call this number. And he wrote it down. And he gave John the number of the Hathahom in Sana'i Yemen, which was the al-Qaeda switchboard that we and the FBI had no fucking clue existed up until that point. CIA and NSA did, because remember, they had been
Starting point is 00:06:10 listening to the Nairobi cell and their activity since 1996. We in the FBI didn't know about that number. The Hada home wasn't just a communications hub for Al-Qaeda. It was the physical home of the father-in-law of Khalid al-Midhar, one of the future 9-11 hijackers. At the end of 1999, listening to that phone is when the CIA learns and the NSA learns that Khalil al-Methar is going to be traveling from there to Dubai and then from Dubai onward to Kuala and poor Malaysia to meet the summit. The summit was a meeting of an operational cadre of al-Qaeda-affiliated terrorists from around the world.
Starting point is 00:06:58 He was scheduled to travel on or about January 5, 2000. The NSA has the ability, did and probably still has, to get any plane, airplane reservation at once in the world and know about it, right? We knew his passable number, we had the phone, we have everything. So we knew his travel information. We knew what flights he was taking, who was a seat he was going to sit in. The CIA arranges for when he gets to Dubai to be secondary, okay, not fully questioned, but, you know, talk to him a little bit.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And then he goes to his hotel room, and they arrange to search his room and go in. And when they go in, his passport is there, and they take pictures of it to photocopy it. And they send back the imagery. And lo and behold, in his passport is a visa to go. to the United States of America, issued out of the American consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. According to one recently released court filings, quote, the visas were issued to facilitate an operation run by the Saudis and the CIA spying operation. The station chief in Riyadh at the time was future CIA director, John Brennan.
Starting point is 00:08:08 The CIA continued tracking Al-Midhar to Kuala Lumpur, where he met up with other al-Qaeda associates, including Nawaf al-Hazmi. a second future 9-11 hijacker. He lands in Kuala Lumpur. They entrust the Malaysia Special Branch, police, to surveil this terror summit in this park in Kuala Lumpur. And so much so to tell them and to surveil them, et cetera. And that information ends up in a communication from Kuala Lumpur Station CIA to CIA headquarters. through Alex station, to the computer screen of me and special agent Doug Miller of Washington Field
Starting point is 00:08:55 Office FBI. You have this cable that lays out the meeting qual and poor, the photocopying of his passport in Dubai, and the learning of the visa to go to the United States of America. Doug Miller gets up from his cubicle of power, comes over to my cubicle of power, and says, Hey, we got to tell the FBI about this. I said, Doug, you're damn right. He goes, all right up to CIR. What is the CIR? A CIR is what is a central intelligence report.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Doug writes it, he sends it to me. I approve it, and it goes to the desk of Michael Ann Casey, the CIA officer, analyst. And it sits in her queue, her electronic queue, and it doesn't move for like a day or two. It should move in a fucking few hours. I'll never forget, like it was yesterday. I never forget.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I'm standing over her. I said, hey, Doug's CIA. She got to go to the FBI. He said, no, it's not. I said, well, why not? She said, because it's not FBI, not an FBI matter. What I mean it's not FBI matter? She said, it's a CIA matter, and when and if we want the FBI to know, we will tell them.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And you are not to say anything. I said, but yeah, but they got a visa to come to the U.S. She said, no, we're handling it, and when we want to tell the FBI, we will. And I looked at her, and remember she got up, but she put her hands on the hip, pointing a finger at me. Now, in my naivete, I believed her. And I have to live with that every day of my life, but I believed her. As the CIA was blocking the FBI detail from informing the Bureau, the hijackers were moving. On January 8, 2000, CIA surveillance teams reported that al-Midhar had boarded a flight to Bangkok, Thailand.
Starting point is 00:10:58 He was accompanied by a man they identified as al-hazmi. According to the official account, this is where the trail went cold. The CIA placed their names on a watch list and asked that Thai authorities track their movements. Three months later, the Thai government reported back, Al-Hasmi, had boarded the United Airlines flight to Los Angeles. Al-Midhar was with him. The two hijackers had arrived in the United States. But here's my problem with this whole fucking thing
Starting point is 00:11:27 and the whole subsequent investigation of 9-11. You have the CIA then following one man and then two men all over the planet and then eventually even to America, right? Landing in Los Angeles, California, and you don't tell the FBI. But why would the CIA want to hide the highly relevant and potentially dangerous fact that two known al-Qaeda terrorists had just landed in California? According to a recently released court filing, former White House counterterrorisms
Starting point is 00:12:01 are Richard Clark told government investigators that the, quote, CIA was running a false flag operation to recruit the hijack. When Kouffer Black became the head of the counterterrorism center at CIA, he was aghast that they had no sources in al-Qaeda. So he told me, I'm going to try to get sources in al-Qaeda. I can understand them, possibly saying we need to develop sources inside al-Qaeda. When we do that, we can't tell anybody about it. After Clark made that claim publicly, he received a claim publicly, he received a an angry call from former director of the CIA, George Tennant, who did not deny the allegations
Starting point is 00:12:44 made by Mr. Clark, end quote. But we reached out to Tenant, his spokesperson denied that the CIA was recruiting hijackers, calling it false rumors and saying, quote, that's categorically not true. He also recalled that the executive director of the 9-11 commission, Philip Zellico, blocked the commission's investigation into the matter at the behest of Condoleezza Rice. CIA had this delusional grand plan. So the CIA, with their information that they had from this to the Hara House and their own psychological analysis of everybody in that team,
Starting point is 00:13:19 they figured the best way is maybe to recruit somebody who came over from Malaysia. Dahlia Mirjar and now Afahazmi. We kept the FBI a bed because he told Marc Rossini and Doug Miller to shut the fuck up. So let's just try to get inside there. And that's what went wrong. That was the grand lie, the grand risk, the grand delusion. You had a duty to protect Americans, and you failed because of your fucking fantastical delusioned.
Starting point is 00:13:59 You could recruit somebody inside the cell. The official 9-11 report does not address the CIA's plan to recruit the hijackers. It's not even. mentioned. It's possible this is because the CIA blocked 9-11 commission investigators from talking to the agents who participated in the plot. Amazingly, the CIA's director of operations kept the CIA operative attempting to recruit the hijackers, referred to as VVVV in the documents, away from the commission's investigators. The consequence of this? The commission's explanation for this story is that the CIA made an honest mistake. The actual language in the
Starting point is 00:14:37 in the report, says the CIA played, quote, zone defense, and the FBI had a man-to-man approach to counterterrorism. The difference in strategies is why the CIA didn't tell the FBI that terrorists had arrived on American soil. Incredibly, the commission investigators didn't ask the CIA director at the time, George Tenant, about the summit in Kuala Lumpur, or why the CIA had blocked the FBI from being warrant. It wasn't the story they wanted. And that is the crux of the matter, and that is the truth. And no one has ever answered those questions. No one has the balls to because they're afraid, because the house would come tumbling down. So how exactly did the CIA try to recruit the 9-11 hijackers? Well, one amazing thing about their arrival is that they didn't try to hide. The
Starting point is 00:15:29 hijackers used their real names while in the United States. They operated in plain daylight. Al-Hasmi and Al-Midhar lived in San Diego for more than a year before the attacks. They lived openly. In fact, they were so open that Hosmi's name, address, and a home phone number were listed in the San Diego phone book. When they arrived, the hijackers encountered a Saudi intel operative called Omar al-Baiumi. They met at a restaurant outside of Los Angeles. The CIA utilized the Saudis. in the form of Omar Abayumi to spy for them and to gather them intelligence.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Before 9-11, the CIA was forbidden from engaging in domestic spying. They used the Saudi intelligence as a workaround. We'll rely upon the Saudi G.I.D., General Intelligence Directorate, their version of the CIA, via Prince Bandar, via their man, Omar Abayumi, to keep us informed as to the activity of these terrorists. Bayoumi's notebook, which was uncovered when British law enforcement raided his home in the U.K., contained a drawing of an airplane and mathematical calculations related to flying it. The 9-11 Commission investigators never saw this. At the time, Al-Buymi had a no-show job at a Saudi aviation contractor called Avco. The company's employees say he was one of roughly 50 ghost employees working there at the time, taking the paycheck but never coming to work.
Starting point is 00:17:01 According to declassified government documents, an investigator from the 9-11 Commission said al-Baiumi was receiving substantial sums of money from the Saudi embassy in Washington prior to the 9-11 attacks, that the money was being funneled from accounts at Riggs Bank in Georgetown belonging to Haifa bin Faisal, the wife of the Saudi ambassador to the United States. By using the Saudis as a proxy to recruit the 9-11 hijackers, the CIA gave itself cover. If things went wrong, they could push a narrative that, blamed the Saudi government for the attacks, which is what they did. For all intents and purposes, Omar Abiyumi was an employee of the Saudi Arabian embassy in Washington, D.C., in their consulate in Los Angeles, California. Al-Buymi convinced the hijackers to move to San Diego. He helped them find an apartment. He served as a co-signer on the lease to that apartment.
Starting point is 00:17:52 He paid their first month's rent and deposit. He got them bank accounts. He got them driver's license. He introduced them to many other radical Muslims in the area. including the cleric Onmore Alalaki. Eventually, al-Midhar went home to Yemen. Khalid al-Midhar leaves America for his daughter's birth, right? And in that time, he loses his passport.
Starting point is 00:18:17 He claims he went to Afghanistan. He goes back to Jeddah and gets another passport. And by this time, even prior, as I understand it now, The Saudis had identified the terrorists, the hijackers, as potential threats to the kingdom and had put chips in their passports identifying them as a threat. Amidar comes back to the United States, I believe it was on July 4th, 2001. He's a lot back in, not stopped, not questioned. So here's a guy that the CIA
Starting point is 00:18:59 New came to America, had been a terrorist summit meeting in Malaysia in January 2000. He's allowed to leave and come back. Midhar was able to exit and enter the country at will because he was issued a multi-visit U.S. visa. According to a summary of an interview with an FBI agent from Alex Station, quote, Al-Hamsi and Al-Bahar obtained their visas to enter the United States at the American consulate in Jetta, Saudi Arabia. All told, the vast majority of the 19-9-11 hijackers had their visas issued at that consulate in Jeddah Saudi Arabia. At the time, John Brennan was running the CIA station there. Just a few days before Al-Madhar re-entered the country at JFK Airport in New York,
Starting point is 00:19:46 the FBI and the CIA held a joint meeting in New York City to discuss the bombing of the USS Coal, which Al-Midhar was involved in. And killed 17 soldiers on the USS Coal. An FBI agent was shown a photograph of Al-Madhar taken at the summit in Kuala Lumpur. The agent asked the CIA who this man was, but the CIA once again refused to tell them. It wasn't until August of 2001 that the CIA finally alerted the FBI, and of course by then it was too late. It's not just Mark Rossini who testifies to this. Another anonymous FBI agent told investigators that, quote,
Starting point is 00:20:25 he, she believed the CIA's operation may have spun out of control, and that they, the CIA, came to the FBI with limited information in an attempt to locate the hijackers without revealing the true nature or extent of their operation against al-Qaeda, end quote. This is the failure of the 9-11 commission and every other fucking commission that ever existed after that. But if the CIA was grooming the hijackers as sources, the FBI failed too.
Starting point is 00:20:56 When Al-Hasmi and Al-Midhar were in California, they lived for a period in the home of an FBI informant called Abdu-Satar. And yet, somehow, the FBI never learned about this. Then, less than a month before the terror attacks, the FBI began an investigation into a French Moroccan national called Zacharias Massawi. He had just moved to Minneapolis from Oklahoma,
Starting point is 00:21:20 where he resumed aviation training. After raising suspicions during training, he was arrested on August 16th and charged with immigration violations. But agents were denied permission to search his laptop, and the room where he was staying. His exact connection to the hijacking remains unclear even now, but he did receive wire transfers from Ramsey bin al-Shib, who was also sending money to the hijackers. In July 2001, an FBI agent stationed in the Phoenix field office sent a memo to headquarters theorizing that there could be, quote, a coordinated effort by Osama bin Laden to send individuals to the United States to receive aviation training. For some reason, this memo was never received by headquarters,
Starting point is 00:22:05 not until after 9-11. Why? Possibly because as late as 2003, the FBI didn't have a functioning internal email system. Most case files were not digitized. They weren't searchable. And employees did not have access to the internet. That's true. By September 2001, the Bureau's computers were so out of date, it took 12 commands simply to save a document. And in the aftermath of the attack, the FBI distributed photographs of the suspected hijackers via express mail. They didn't have scanners. The Bush administration worked hard for us not to know any of this. They hid it.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Many of these details were discovered during the Congressional Joint Inquiry into 9-11. But when Congress released its report, the 28 pages, dealing with the hijackers' time in Southern California were hidden. They were redacted. When a man called Philip Zellicoe took over as the commission's executive director, he reached a secret agreement with the White House to block his investigators from accessing records related to the hijackers until the White House had already screened them. Government documents show that the commission investigator assigned to this topic complained
Starting point is 00:23:17 that, quote, Zellico limited the number of witnesses that commission investigators could interview. And just days before the report was released, Dieter Snell, senior counsel to the commission, attempted to remove most of the details of the Saudi collaboration with the hijackers. Some of the findings were included in the end, but they were buried in the footnotes. The truth is, the official 9-11 commission report sold to the American public and the world for decades, as the definitive account of what happened that day, is a lie. 9-11 commission is a cover of it. But how did the Bush administration manage to hijack what was sold as an independent commission?
Starting point is 00:24:00 And what exactly were they trying to hide? We'll reveal what we found in the next episode.

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