The Tucker Carlson Show - The Number One Way to Fight Alzheimer’s, Depression and Anxiety Before It’s Too Late

Episode Date: July 3, 2026

Scientist and physician Michael Nehls explains how Alzheimer’s can be reversed. Michael Nehls, MD, PhD, is a physician and molecular geneticist. As a basic researcher, he has deciphered the genetic causes of various hereditary diseases at German and international research institutions. He has published two of his discoveries in collaboration with several Nobel laureates. His discovery of a key gene in the development of immunity was honored as a "Pillar of Immunology" by the prestigious American Association of Immunology. A science writer with a talent for making complex issues accessible to a wide audience, he has written several best-selling books that have been translated into many languages. As a private lecturer, he is a popular speaker at conferences and universities. Find him here: Substack: michaelnehls.substack.com Web: https://michael-nehls.com X: @NehlsMD Paid partnerships with: Angel Studios: Become a Premium Angel Guild member today at http://angel.com/TuckerCharity Mobile: A pro-life company serving pro-life customers and supporting pro-life causes for 30 years. Use promo code TUCKER to get a free phone with free activation, free shipping, and a free gift with every new line of service at https://charitymobile.com/Tucker VanMan: Use code TUCKER for 15% off your first order at http://vanman.shop/tucker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Thank you for coming back. I'm really excited about this. So we're going to talk about algae oil and lithium. I can't believe I'm saying. I love this. But we were just having a conversation off camera about dogs. And I was telling you my crackpot health theories, which are very sincere and firmly believed. But one of them is that sleeping next to your dog in bed and having dogs in your life physically in your life, kissing dogs, is very important to your health. I feel that way. strongly, but I never tell anybody because it's too crazy, but you just affirmed my belief. You said there might be some science behind. Yeah, there was a paper a few years ago in science where they actually showed that dogs actually captured what we call the oxytocin system. Oxytocin is a hormone, you know, produced by your hormones. Yeah. They are produced and they are for bonding.

Actually, the main purpose of oxytocin is it's a quix. weak word, it's for easy birth. You know, it actually is activating the uterus and then the birth and helps delivering the baby. Yeah, like the toxin that they give to women and laborers? And every time we look into the eyes or friends and then be happy, you know, and have companionship. Then oxytocin is produced in our body. And oxytocin has one important function, and that is not only to give easy birth, when they deliver a baby,

but also a second function which is actually important for the bonding between the mother and the child. So the bonding between the mother and child is essential for the life of the child. If you can't remember the child, if you can't smell it,

if you don't have a connection to the child, the child is lost. So the mother love, in the love of the mother to the child has to keep for the whole life. And this, of course, is the function of our autobiographical management.

memory center, which we call the hippocampus, you know, a sea horse-shaped structure here in the temporal lobe of our brain on both sides, big like a thumb. This is the memory center. Actually, we will talk about this in depth, I guess, because this memory center is important if we are able to think peace, if we actually act like humans, you know, reflect about things. And of course, if it doesn't function, one disease which we all know about, which I call hippocampal dementia is Alzheimer's. Alzheimer's starts from the hippocampus. And the main reason I published this in 2016, I called it unified theory of Alzheimer's, is that this hippocampus has the ability to grow new nerve cells every day. These are required that we can accumulate a lifelong information, knowledge, experiences that are valuable for our children, but also for our grandchildren. The main reason we get that old as we get. Okay.

So the hippocampus has to grow new cells, and one of the major fertilizers of this growth process is oxytocin. So when a child is born, a lot of oxytocin is produced. The hippocampus growth and the mother has a better memory than ever in her whole life when the child is born. The same actually does prolactin, which is important for giving milk to the baby. So giving milk to the baby, the birth of the baby produces hormones, and these hormones activate the growth of the hippocampus. And the same goes for dogs. When a dog looks into your eyes, it was proven. The oxytocin level increases in your blood, but not only in your blood,

also in the dog's blood, by the way. So there is kind of a bonding between the two species based on the oxytocin system. And the paper in science about 10, 15 years ago, said that the oxytocin

system was captured by the dogs so that they become our friendliest companions. What could possible, first of all, that's beautiful and great to hear, but what could be the purpose of that? Well, for the dogs,

it means they get, the food every day they need. It's a species which survive that way, and evolution, you know, works in a way that you have to survive and your children have to survive and your kids have so survive. And that is more likely if the wolf becomes a dog, you know. Yes, the dog is dependent on you. It's dependent on you. And the dependence is guaranteed by the oxytocin system, you know.

But why, and I understand that, of course, but what would be the purpose? for people. For the people in the past, it was like they were companions in hunting, you know, they protected, you know, your space, you know. So they were for safety reasons. And meanwhile, I recommend them actually as a therapy against Alzheimer's or, you know, because they grow the hippocampus. And the bigger the hippocampus, the less likely you get Alzheimer's.

Actually, the paper I published unified theory of Alzheimer's goes back that the fundamental physiological or pathophysiological problem in Alzheimer's is the non-production of new nerve cells in the hippocampus based on our lifestyle based on okay so the way we live affects the risk of getting Alzheimer's exactly so when the last time when we talked here about two years ago we talked about my first book the indoctrinated brain and there i show that the growth of these new nerve cells is important that we are open for new ideas for new memories that we we learn that we reflect about things, but also that we are curious. These new nerve cells are the neuronal correlate for curiosity.

Human curiosity is dependent on the production of new nerve cells in the hippocampus. So we are more curious when we have a dog because we produce more oxytocin. But what we talked about it two years ago was that the spike protein produced by the mRNA that is injected, you know, in this... weird program is doing just the opposite. The spike protein activates neuroinflammation in the brain, and we have to talk about neuroinflammation today because lithium is the antidote. Actually, we talked about this two years ago.

So if neuroinflammation occurs and it's chronic because the spike protein doesn't go away, then the neuroinflammatory process activates the production of interleukin 1, interleukin 6, TNF alpha, all pro-inflammatory sites. and their main reason that they are produced is to signal the immune system, there's some damage in the brain. But a side effect is, and that's physiological, is that they shut down the hippocampus. They shut down the production of new nerve cells in the hippocampus. In the short run, this is good because it creates a behavior that is you are not curious when you are sick. You want to go back.

You don't want to socialize. That protects others if you are really sick. You are not curious when you're sick. That is true. Yeah. So that is a result in the short term. But if it's chronic, if chronically there's a shutdown of the production of new nerve cells in the hippocampus, then the consequences are depression, anxiety, and in the long run it's Alzheimer's. So they actually identified after the MRI injections, after a few months that the Alzheimer's rate went up in a study published in Seoul, in South Korea, that was, I think, published in 2023. and I predicted this already in my book The Indocinated Brain

is that the M-Anne injection will increase Alzheimer's. And it has. And it has. It was published in a Korean study. So all the predictions were correct, unfortunately. Well, it was good for me

because I like it when I'm correct in my predictions, but it's not good for the human world. So humanity hinges on the ability of the hippocampus to produce new nerve cells. That is the key to humanity.

If we reduce it to one function of the brain is that being human is that we are curious, that we can reflect, that we have what I call psychological resilience, because even if you are curious

but you fear going a new path, then it doesn't do any good. Curiosity has to be like two sides of a coin. On the one side you have curiosity, if the other side you have the psychological resilience. And this coin with these two sides is based neurologically on the function of the production of new nerve cells. So you need new nerve cells to be curious, to have resilience.

Actually, all drugs on the market that are against depression have one key feature. They activate the production of new nerve cells in the hippocampus. I'm not saying you have to take them, but this is their function. So they are essentially antidepressants based on the function that they produce in nerve cells in the hippocampus. And being human, in my opinion, means that you are able to produce these cells because then you are curious, you are interested in the opinion of other people, you know, you can reflect on the opinion of other people. There's another feature these cells represent in my opinion, I outdated in my book, is that they confer something, what I call

not empathy, but the right word is rational compassion. I think it's the right term, rational compassion. So when we are empathic, you know, we immediately act on something. We see something, we act, this person is suffering, we act. But rational compassion is more,

it's more like, if I do something, what does it mean for the other person? People who are not even outside, not inside this room, people outside in other countries. What do my actions do to these people? For this, empathy is not the right function in our brain. This is what Kahneman, who got an overpriced about System 1, System 2, 2002, a psychologist called System 1 is a reflex.

Empathy is kind of a reflex. But rational compassion is something that requires, thinking, thinking about putting yourself into shoes of others that you, maybe people you don't even see, seeing the world out of the eyes from other people. And all these functions are based on the production of new nerve cells in the hippocampus. So if you shut down the production of new nerve cells in the hippocampus, people lose essentially the ability to be human. They lose themselves. Yeah, they lose themselves. And the ultimate losing of oneself is having Alzheimer's, which actually is the ultimate result of having a lifelong shutdown of the production

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Angel, great. So you're saying that MRNA injections cause this? Yeah, absolutely. So, I mean, are people still being injected with this? Yeah, still happens. I was in Florida four or five months ago, even though there's a bad. on this somehow politically it's realized how toxic the stuff is but when my wife and i were in kew west i think it was like in october november i think it was november last year

november being 2025 because we don't know when people view this so um so there were still advertisements here you get the injection no you know without any insurance problems and whatever you know on the streets i mean i was curious i was astonished you know Because one of the promises of the last election runs, we'd shut that down. Yeah, it's still happening. But it hasn't been shut down. It's still happening, yeah. And I wonder why.

I don't know. What's the point of this? I have no real clue. I mean, it almost becomes conspiracy theory at that point. I think it becomes a conspiracy reality. Yeah, it's a reality, but the reasons behind it, I don't know. Why it is not forbidden, you know, completely. I mean, the stuff is toxic.

I gave a talk at the Bundestag. talk, you know, about five months ago in Germany. I was invited by the AFD. And I gave a one and a half hour lecture, and one hour lecture was it at the end, about the origin of the virus, you know, and I said it's a bioweapon by all means. I'm molecular geneticist. I used my molecular genetic skills, you know, and that this virus could have evolved by nature is essentially impossible.

and the evidence I laid down, you know, it was paid for by the Pentagon, you know, by the DARPA, bought money in the state department who actually put money in, EcoHealth Alliance, all these kinds of things that came together, Barrett, you know, that all the labs in North Carolina. I put this all together in a lecture and said, this is a bioweapon and the real bioweapon is not the virus itself. Actually, it's the M RNA that people,

get injected, you know, the modified M RNA that doesn't get away so easily because of the modifications. And that's what I asked then when I was in the Enkette Commission, I asked you, the former head secretary of health, you know, in Germany, Jan Schwann, I asked him, why did you, yeah, asked the, yeah, the Stiko, you know, that's the, that's the, that's the, an advisory committee for for vaccination. They said at the time, don't do the children.

No children, no pregnant women, nothing. But the politicians wanted it. And they pushed it very hard. So when I asked him, why did you allow that? Because he published a book, actually the title of the book is we have to forgive each other. That's the title of the book. He published a book about this time.

And in the book I was able to read before I questioned him publicly, I read that he was informed early 2020 that this might be coming from a bioweapon lab. So he knew, or at least he had to have the suspicion that it was a bioweapon. And still he insisted that kill children should be injected. So when he says we have to forgive each other, what would he be forgiving the rest of us for? And he wanted, I think, forgiveness for himself. Of course. And so when I asked him, his response was not okay, I didn't know or whatever.

No, he said, the parents wanted it. And that was, I thought, wow, the parents wanted it. I mean, for Christ's sake, you know. I mean, the parents wanted it because you made them fear that the children might die when they get the infection. You know, you're part of the narrative. And then he said something very special, which really made waves in Germany. Unfortunately, not in the main media, only in the alternative media, like Eurasia maybe. Yeah, that he said it was never the intention to save others.

The injections were never intended to save others, even though that was the main thing they told us. Of course, if you love your grandparents, you'll take the shot. Yeah, that's what he told us. And in this commission publicly, he, he, he, in my questioning, when he questioned him, he asked, he said to me, or said to the public, it was never the intention of the MRI to help others, to protect others. Then what was the, what was the purpose? He never said. The problem is in this, in this commission, you have only five minutes to question somebody. That means five minutes for question and answer. And that's it. Then it's over. Then he is released. and there's no repercussion, there's nothing happened afterwards.

You just have to forgive him. Yeah, we just have to forgive him. But when he was asked by my colleague, Tom Lausen, he asked him in the second five minutes, he got, okay, your book says we have to forgive others. So there are so many doctors now who know it didn't do the injections. actually they want to protect their patients by yeah by all means they are now incarcerated you know they're in prison

shouldn't we just let them free and he simply said no so no forgiveness for others not forgiveness for those they should be in prison for not injecting their patients with poison yeah yeah yeah well that's I mean that's who are up against

we're living in a strange world and And the strange thing is the reason they made this injection program also, besides lying to us that it would help others, was that it would help ourselves, you know, that we might not get this severe COVID with where we end up with tubes, you know, and getting artificial respiration and die essentially, 50% was the death rates. And you got, you know, and I published a book on this. it's not here, but it's here in the conspiracy against lithium, I show the case that lithium is protecting our body against severe what we call cytokine storms. So the overproduction of cytokines, cytokine storm, and actually people died from COVID or any other respiratory disease that goes back since the first cases of influenza,

you know, the common flu, people can die. And then they die. usually die based on the fact that the immune system is overreacting. One of the reason it overreacts and why all these diseases happen in winter is that we have a vitamin D deficiency. It's quite easily explained. But the cyclone storm, you can end immediately if you give people lithium. Lithium is the natural antidote against an overreacting immune system. And it was already published case reports in 2020 in August that if you, patients have severe COVID, that they have to go to the hospital. If you give them lithium,

essentially the cytokine storm ends immediately. And the people are safe. So that would have saved thousands of lives in the United States. It would have saved everybody because nobody would have gotten the injection. The whole M RNA program would have been for nothing. There wouldn't have been any reason to do that. And when was this known? There was published six case reports in, I think it was August 2020.

And then the same group did a peer-reviewed. a random control trial, standard pharmaceutical way to test drugs. In this case, they used lithium. I think they gave the people two times 40 milligrams a day. And the control group got the standard treatment and the interference group, the one who got the lithium, got standard treatment plus lithium. And the outcome was dramatic. They were out of the hospital and half the time.

nobody had to go to intensive care. Nobody died compared to the control group. And it was all known. But the same goes for vitamin D. If you had severe COVID, it was already published in September 2020, that if you had severe COVID, you have to raise the vitamin D level in your blood. But the vitamin D in our blood that we measure

is the vitamin D pro-hormon. It's 25 hydroxy vitamin D. So this is what we measure in the blood. vitamin D, we measure what is converted to a pro-hormone. The vitamin D we produce in our skin is converted in the liver into pro-hormon, and that's the storage form of vitamin D and also the form we measure in the blood. And this is immediately, you know, functioning as a hormone, as vitamin D hormone, in

the cells and shutting down the cytokine storm. It's also important that we fight viruses. So a study was done in Cordoba in, I think it was published in September 2020, where they randomized a group of patients that were in a hospital based on COVID, severe respiratory disease, cytokine storm, they put them into different groups. And one group got the vitamin D prohomone, the 25 hydroxy vitamin D, not vitamin D, the prohormone form. And the other group just got standard treatment. And the effect was the likelihood of having to go to intensive care,

that the disease essentially worsens, was 25-fold reduced. 25-fold. That's incredible. And it was all known at the end of 2020, before the injection program with the MRA rolled out. Now, we care about supporting companies whose values aligned with ours. We do not want to shill for sleazy companies. It is better to give business to like-mise.

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the mechanism, how lithium works, is a mechanism that is as old as life on this planet. Can you just stop right there? Lithium. Okay, so that's the main topic here. I'm interested in learning about lithium. I associate it with batteries.

Are you talking about the same lithium? Yeah. Actually, the lithium you find in your mobile phone is pretty much the amount of lithium we need for one year as a human. So my recommended daily allowance, you know, it's recommended by me, it's provisional because usually you need a state or department

to acknowledge what the amount is, but the amount of lithium that humans need is approximately one milligram per day. So one thousandths of a gram, one milligram. It's almost, you can't hardly see it on a spoon, you know, it's so little. So just to start at the very beginning, lithium is an element. It's an element.

It's actually one of the first elements that the universe produced, if we believe in a Big Bang or whatever. But it co-developed in the universe with helium and, but not actually what's called hydrogen. Yeah. Hydrogen and lithium and helium. That was the three first elements that ever were produced in the universe. and that's why you find lithium everywhere. Lithium is everywhere. That's the reason why it's called actually lithium.

Lithium comes from Lithia. That's the Greek word for stone, because every stone people analyze there's lithium in there. Not much, maybe, but little. So it's the one element you find everywhere. Is it in fruits, vegetables, meats, is it in our diet? It's everywhere.

It's everywhere. It's in our diet. It's everywhere. at the end of the 19th century, when in the mid of the 19th century, lithium was discovered as an element. So the chemistry was so far advanced. We knew that lithium exists. This is how it looks like,

what the way it is and everything. And people realized at the time that when there were springs somewhere, you know, springs where people went to because they felt better when they drink the water of this particular spring, holy springs, you know, everywhere scattered in the world

that the denominator the common factor of all these springs was lithium the content of lithium was higher than in other water so when the lithium content is higher a little bit higher then you feel immediately that it helps your brain because apparently you have a deficiency

so once a deficiency is resolved your brain works better again and there were studies out from the 1970 And they concluded already that if you have the luck in, for example, in Texas, you live in an area where a little bit more lithium is in the tap water than in other areas of Texas. And those studies have been done all over the world meanwhile. Then the likelihood that you develop Alzheimer's is reduced, that you commit suicide is reduced, that you are admitted to a mental hospital is reduced, that you get killed is reduced.

The murder rate depends directly on the level of lithium in the tap water. Really? Yeah, because what I call the mental immune system which resides in the hippocampus is dependent on lithium. Do you think people are receiving less lithium than they once did?

Yeah, absolutely. In my book, I described the original, not only the origin of our humanity. So humanity relies on our ability to think, to put ourselves in the shoes of others, to be social animals in a way.

You know, that we can socialize that we want peace, you know, we don't want war, we want peace, we want the best for our kids and war is not good for our kids. I've noticed. Yeah, absolutely. So we all have an immune system. But we know the immune system, I call it the physical immune system, which fights pathogenic microorganisms. That's what we call our immune system. But to this I added another immune system, a term I call it mental immune system. This one doesn't fight microorganisms, at least not directly, indirectly, because maybe we think about measures of keeping them away.

But it fights macroorganism, pathogenic macroorganisms, macro meaning big. Macroorganisms like Bill Gates maybe, you know, I mean, but people who want to, one who don't, who do us harm. You know, we have to protect our family from these pathogenic macro organisms. Yes, I know some. Yeah, exactly. And that's what the mentally immune system is for. That's why we have a mentally immune system. And the mental immune system, as I was able to show,

resides in the hippocampus, in the production of new nerve cells in the hippocampus, because these are the neuronal correlate, as I already laid out in the beginning of our talk, they are for curiosity, for the ability to think, you know, to change perspective, you know, that we find, you know, the ability to solutions, which is not just sending weapons, you know, but actually, yeah, diplomatic ways to solve problems, not only on a political level, but also in families, you know, with friends. So what makes us human is the mental immune system. So what's in your toothpaste? If you're using the brand you grew up with, you probably don't

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Van Man, real ingredients, zero exceptions. I wonder if the uptake rate for the MRANation shot is hiring Congress in the United States than the overall population? It's possible? I don't know. Maybe... I would bet about 100% of U.S. senators took the COVID to the MRNA shot. Or they pretended to do it. I'm not sure. I hope so. I hope they did. Yeah. Well, I hope so, too. But that would be actually worse because they might have

pretended because they knew it's toxic. Yeah. Otherwise, you wouldn't have to pretend. You would actually take it. Right. Well, they're not serving in the worst. I don't know what these people did, but I have my suspicion that people who propagated the stuff knew it's toxic. Of course they did. And if part of the propagation is to tell the public I got the shot, I'm sure they didn't get it, you know. Anyway. It's also evil.

Sorry, I'm doing. But the mental immune system, I asked myself the question, when in the history of humans evolved the mental immune system, now from the evolutionary perspective? And from the evolutionary perspective, it evolved when there was a trout in Africa, a drought of a span of about 70,000 years. And it started about 95,000 years ago, roughly 200,000 years ago, there was an ice age, a very severe ice age, lasting very long, and essentially the mountains of ice were accumulating on the North Pole and the South Pole and Africa went dry.

And life in Africa on the mainland was essentially not possible. So only a few people survived. We believe actually that maybe only a few hundred people of humans survived at the coast in South Africa. Actually, the spot which I described very intensively in my book, the Algae Oil Revolution, became a world in heritage site in 2024 for that reason. And here they found fruits of the ocean, you know, I call them the fruits of wisdom, you know, and that's our muscles. Muscles were at the coast, they were like in abundance.

And if you check out what muscles contain, they contain pretty much everything the human brain needs. They're just the perfect brain. The shellfish. The shellfish, yeah. They are just the perfect. And they were there in quantities, so these few hundred people couldn't even, you know, think about eating everything. They were just growing faster than they could eat it. So that completely changed the lifestyle, and it had an impact on the brain.

So they got all the omega-3 fatty acids in quantities, but also in what they got and what they didn't get probably in the inland, Africa, was lithium. Lithium is part of the muscle. So, to put it this way, like iodine, iodine is very important for the brain. Yes. We know what happens when you have an iodine deficiency. And iodine is really not so easy to find. It causes mental retardation, lower IQ. Yeah, exactly.

It's not actually retardation. You don't develop a brain. You have a problem to develop one. So you are retarded in a way, but retardant means you have lost something, but you don't even develop a brain when you have a lack of iodine in your childhood. It was the most severe mental issue that we know of, you know. So anyway, in geologically old areas, you know, like in the Alps, for example, or in the mountains somewhere, if they're not volcanic, then there is a lack of iodine

because it was washed out over the millions of years into the ocean. You know, it's washed out and the soil doesn't contain much iodine. And the same happens with lithium. Lithium is also washed out. So in salt water, in ocean water, you find 100 times higher level of lithium than in sweet water. Really? Yeah, it's 100 times higher. And mussels or shellfish accumulates lithium by 3 to 5fold.

So if you eat the meat of muscles or shellfish, then you have an intake of about 1 to 2 milligram. I calculated this in the book. Of 1 to 2 milligram a day. That was essentially our natural fruit. for tens of thousands of years. And that was a time when the human brain... It's shellfish, not fish. Shellfish.

Fish also has lithium, of course. Can I say now I'm bragging? I know nothing about health. I've always loved shellfish and dogs. And you have just affirmed both of my choices. Yeah, I'm very thankful that I did this now. I'm happy to make you happy. I love having my eccentric choices ratified by science.

Yeah, the only problem with shellfish, of course, if you eat it too much, is that it not only accumulates lithiumic, it accumulates everything what is in the ocean. Well, it's the dirtiest thing you can eat. Yeah, exactly. And that's why I came up with an alternative, because there's not enough shellfish on this planet to feed everybody so that he can, has his quantity of lithium that he needs. Because the problem is when nature gives you something for tens of thousands of years, then the body usually starts to use what he gets. And at a certain time, he starts to put his genetics around it. And so what was somehow a free offer becomes a necessity after a certain time. So we got used to have lithium in our diet. And now it's gone because we moved away from the coast.

We are inland. We are in areas where it's less lithium. We don't recognize that there's a deficiency because all other people behave the same. You know, everybody is a little bit less friendly as it could be. Everybody is a little bit more irritable as it could be. Everybody has more the risk of being, having expressed anger. You know, we are less able maybe to find a peaceful way. Actually, my strongest belief is that the written history of our culture, of the human culture

for the last six, seven, eight, ten thousand years is, history of a lack of lithium because people moved inside had these cities and they didn't eat shellfish anymore and if they were not lucky enough that the that lithium was in their groundwater where they had their city then they lived in it with a reduced amount of lithium that were able to ingest and if you have a reduced amount of lithium that has severe consequences on your brain function particularly on your mental immune system it's interesting that you say that because I mean coastal cultures are famously and provably more evolved flexible cosmopolitan prosperous um you know that inland culture I mean yeah right there was no real city at Riod 200 years ago

there was Jetta on the coast and that's true and like every there are a lot of reasons for that but do you think that's one of them yeah actually I rechecked one of my first books it has not been translated in English yet but one of my first books I was worked on Okinawa, I know, why people get older there, why they have reduced levels of Alzheimer's, all these kinds of things. And when I wrote on this book, the term blue zone, you know, was not known. But meanwhile, the term blue zone means areas in our planet where people get old, but also stay healthy when they age. And these were called blue zones. And so I checked from my book, The Conspiracy Against Lithium, all the blue zones in the lithium-rich

areas. And it makes a lot of sense. I gave a talk about two years ago, I actually sent you an email with a link and you said, I remember you giving me an email back saying, it was signal or whatever, saying it's great that you were able to give this talk. I was invited by the foreign minister of Switzerland on the International Corporation Forum. It's a conference where about 100 nations took part. all over the world of course it's very closely linked to the to the world economy forum so so for me it was like walking into into an area where i didn't feel very happy my book the exhaustive brain was the reason i was invited because there i explained what the brain needs to think and of course what to think peace so they invited me to give the keynote at this event in 15 minutes i had to answer

the question what the brain needs to think peace okay and well it was just a few weeks after i was here and then our interview you know you published it and they realized that i have different ideas what the brain needs that i was not a friend of the MRI injections and so forth so they couldn't un-invite me again you know it was not would it have not been very late but they tried of course to to reduce the amount of slides I'm using, you know. It actually came to me five minutes before my speech because in the evening I shut down the computer, I send them the speech, you know, the slides.

But I shut down the computer, I shut down my mobile phone. I came very late to my talk in the morning. It was the first talk, the keynote. And they came to me, rushing to me, Michael, we have to cut out 50% of the slides, you know, 50% because the slides contained a couple of information like, for example, the function of the brain

does not, the mental immune system, which we required for thinking, and thinking is a prerequisite for thinking peace, of course. You can't think peace if you can't think, obviously. So if you want to be able to think, real thinking, type 2 thinking, system 2 thinking, we need the mental immune system. The main immune system doesn't work if you inject MRI with a spike protein. So this slide they didn't like. I also showed that with vitamin D, the problem would have been over,

and that would be healthy for your brain. But one of my last slides I showed was that I want to make it my goal to prove that lithium is essential for the mental immune system. And at that moment, I was a little bit fearful because the meeting took place in Basel, you know, and that is essentially the center of the pharmaceutical industry in Switzerland. It is, yeah. Yeah, and I was there and said, I want to show it. that lithium is essential.

And the proof is now in my book The Conspiracy Against Lithium. It's the first proof ever that lithium is an essential trace element, meaning that if you have a complete leg, you wouldn't be able to live. If you reduce it in animals, for example, it reduces their fertility.

The newborns, the ones which are born are smaller, the ones many don't survive the first few months, if they have a lack of lithium. Not a complete leg, just a reduction. A complete lack is very difficult to achieve because lithium is everywhere. But you can, of course, create artificially a deficiency in animals and has detrimental effects. How would you create a deficiency in people?

In people, we have already a deficiency. We live already a deficiency. So if you assume you need one milligram of lithium a day, which is the dose where you have the lowest suicide rates, the highest longevity. So if your tap water has, let's say, 500 microgram of lithium, it's half a milligram per liter. This is, you know,

it's like a quarter gallon, at water, you know, then if you live in an area where this is the case, then you have a longer life with less diseases. You also have a much reduced risk of Alzheimer's. We already discussed that. Yeah. So longevity, Alzheimer's risk,

depend on the amount of lithium you have in your tap water and this is of course only in certain areas of the world but not everywhere i assume 90 to 95 percent of the human population suffers from lithium's deficiency and this is severe because it's the mental deficiency syndrome which i essentially termed it i termed the lithium deficiency disease a mental immune deficiency syndrome And the end result is Alzheimer's, but it starts with autism. Autism, attention deficit disorders, schizophrenia. Actually, the first one who mentioned in the history of our culture that lithium might be essential was John Cade.

And John Cate published in 1949 a paper where he treated people with high doses of lithium, really high doses for bipolar disorder. and he found out that bipolar disorder is a mix of a change of depression and mania but he said that mania was primarily affected by giving lithium

it was reduced and he assumed that the effect was a strong mania and on bipolar disorder as general that a lack of lithium in your childhood might be the cause of bipolar disorder so if you have a lack in your diet in lithium, in the childhood, that might be a cause, meaning, and that was his conclusion in the paper in 1949, meaning that lithium must be an essential trace element, because if it has effects on your brain,

it must be essential, if it's lacking. And in the same year, 1949, the FDA made a prohibition on lithium as a supplement. You are not allowed a supplement anymore. That was happening in 1949. Why? On purpose. Actually, that's the conspiracy I'm talking about in the title. Three centers in the United States, medical centers, doctors gave their patients, patients which suffered from heart disease, congestive heart failure, you know, very severely sick.

They said to their patients, hey, you are not allowed to eat salt anymore. Salt is not good for your heart. So they removed the sodium chloride, which is salt, from their diet. But of course, then the food doesn't taste very good. So they gave them, instead of sodium chloride, they gave them lithium chloride. Now, they didn't take one milligram of lithium. Of course, it has to taste salty. They took grams of it.

At the time, it was already published in the Journal of the American Medical Association from in 1930 by a self-test from a doctor that these amounts of lithium are highly toxic. highly toxic. They can kill you. And that's what they did. They gave these patients high doses of lithium in not milligram, but gram. Can you imagine something that is essential in one dose? You give it a thousandfold higher what will happen.

Think about water. Water like half a gallon of water might be healthy, you know? You should drink water every day. Yeah. But now make it a thousandfold. How much water have to drink? You die from drinking water. Oh, yes, you can.

Yeah. So everything you increase dramatically, everything that's good for you, you increase it becomes toxic. I've noticed. Yeah. And same goes for lithium. And the same goes for lithium. And the lithium killed people at that time. And they published in spring 1949 three papers in the Journal of the Medical Association, Yama or Jama.

Jammer. Yeah, Jemma. They published three papers back to back, apparently independent of, they called it in the time. magazine, accidental food poisoning. But in the paper, when you read them, and I found them, and they are in the book, I found out that these were done, that was done purposely. These people were given kind of a clinical trial. We wanted to find out how much lithium people can accept.

And they monitored how these people died. And then they told the FDA, said to the time magazine, or we wanted to actually shut down the supplementation of lithium as a trace element anyway. because you want to develop a drug with it. And that was happened in 1949. You might know 7-Up, of course, you know. Yes. 7-Up has its name from lithium.

It was lithium-itated soda. I think the formula came out in 1929, and one glass of 7-Up had exactly 1 milligram of lithium. And 7 stands for the atomic weight of lithium. It's 7. and up means upregulation of the mood. So you drank your lisiated soda, which was called 7 up, and you had essentially an up regulation of the mood.

And because you remedied your deficiency. But that was, of course, a big thing selling this stuff, and many followed, even Coca-Cola started putting lithium in their drink. But in 1949, that was prohibited. And they had to change the formulation. So from 1949 on the whole world essentially banned lithium. In Europe there's still

a ban. Here in America in meanwhile in the United States you can buy lithium because there was a reform of the FDA in 1994 where the F and the D separated somehow so there is more relation on drugs than on food and supplementation supplements with lithium is food

and here the responsibility is for those who produce it if you bring it on the market, if somebody dies, you are responsible, but nobody died so far. So for the last 35, 40 years, it is possible to buy lithium as a supplement in America. But the ban from the FDA from 1949 still persists in Europe. So in whole Europe, it's not allowed to receive lithium, to get lithium as a supplement. We are not allowed to put it in a supplement to actually get this one milligram. So I ever gave a speech about half a year ago.

It was in June 2025. I gave a speech at the European Parliament to end this stupidity, to end this. Because I was able to prove in my book that about 90% of all diseases, which we call chronic diseases, 90% of chronic disease, the major market of the pharmaceutical industry, is based on chronic inflammation. And the natural antidote of chronic inflammation is lithium in your food. So if you give people lithium, these chronic inflammations would reside and the drug market, of course, would shut down. But this is not what the European Commission wants.

So I'm essentially running against walls when I try to talk to Oslo Fondaline. Well, you're not the only one. Yeah, I assume. I assume. But that was the main reason I came here to the United States. That's one of the main reason I talked to you here, because. the Maha movement will only be really successful if everything that the brain needs is given to the people. So people need enough omega-3 fatty acids, they need enough of lithium, they need enough all vitamins, all essential trace elements, everything is needed.

I call the requirement is based on a law of nature. And this law is quite simple. It's called the law of the minimum. So the law of the minimum was discovered in 1828 by a German agricultural scientist. And he discovered that when you want to grow some vegetables, whatever, on a field, the vegetables have some requirements. And for example, as phosphate is missing, you can give the plant as much potassium as you want, it will not grow. You have to give the plant what it needs. And this is the law of the minimum. It's very important law because it tells people in agriculture that they don't waste, you know,

material on their fields that the plant doesn't need and only give the plant that exactly that what is missing in the soil. And this, it goes about growing something. Now, what is growing in our brain is the new cells in the hippocampus. So we can apply the same law there. The law of the minimum applies to every living being, in particular to our mental immune system. So if you apply the law of the minimum to our mentally immune system, then if something is missing, it will not work. You can eat as much meat, a protein, as long as there is no lithium in the brain, your brain will suffer. As long as there are not enough omega-3 fatty acids, the brain will suffer. and the ideal volume of the hippocampus,

which gives you essentially the best mental immune system with the best growth rate, is, and here maybe I have to give you some facts, the hippocampus can grow by a few percent each year, by volume, by a few percent each year, because he has the ability to grow new nerve cells, and they are required that our mental immune system functions. So they grow and the hippocampus will grow,

But in modern societies, there is not a growth of the hippocampus, there's a shrinkage. The shrinkage is an average 1.4% per year by volume. So after 30, 40 years, your hippocampus is only half the size it was when you're 25. And what are the effects of that? How would you notice that in another person? You notice it because he's mentally not flexible anymore. Not flexible anymore. Yeah, he reiterates, you know, common phrases.

You can talk to health and can say hello to him. He will respond friendly maybe if he's a friendly person. But you realize very quickly that you cannot go into a discussion with him about anything because he will shut down. His mentally immune system is not functioning. He's caught in the past. He's caught in the past. And even this past will diminish because the long-term consequence of a shrinking hippocampus

is Alzheimer's. Actually, it's a biomarker for Alzheimer's. The smaller you have a compass, the closer you. you are to develop the disease. So we have a society already that's not the people that have Alzheimer's. If Alzheimer's starts in the age of 20, yeah, if you have hippocampus is shrinking, actually even in kids they don't develop the hippocombose the size they should. So the deficiencies start already in the womb of the woman, you know?

I mean, they start when you are essentially concepted, you know, at conception, you grow into an environment where things are missing. Just we give you an example, if omega-3 fatty acids are missing, you cannot build synapses between your nerve cells. 50% of the fatty acids in your synapses, which are important for connecting your brain cells, important for our mental functioning,

consist of omega-3 fatty acids. Now, what happens if you don't eat them? Our body can't produce them. And the biggest hippocampal volume we have when you have an omega-3 index, It's the measurement of how much omega-3 fatty acids your body has is 11%. 11% is the ideal. This is what the placenta, for example, tries to give the child that is growing up.

11%. 2% is not, you cannot live with 2%. Below 2% was never measured anywhere in the world because 2% is the minimum that is required for life. But of course, it's not a happy life. So 2% is the minimum. 11% is ideal. What do Americans have?

4%. Children, we have children, maybe with only 2.5 to 3%. So what are the characteristics of a society in which most people have lithium deficiencies and stunted hypochampuses? How do people behave? Like what are the signs that your whole society is suffering from this? Well, they just behave. There's trained behavior, of course. If you are trained to be a friendly person, you know, say hello to everybody. You will do that, but practically speaking, your mental immune system is dysfunctional. And if it's dysfunctional, you are not as curious as you should be. You have not the resilience that you should have. You are not as compassion with others because you cannot put yourself into, through their shoes

or see the world through their eyes, which makes it difficult to negotiate. So you are not as peaceful as you can, you know? You are not as peaceful as you. I'm recognizing some of these signs, doctors. Okay, I hope not by somebody close by. No, just, but if all of a sudden you look around and people are not interested in what just happened, like, how can you not want to know how that happened? Yeah. And if people do seem like they have left love for each other and less compassion for each other and are not capable of seeing other people's perspectives. Yeah. I mean, I've noticed that. Yeah. And this is a world I don't want to live in. And this is why I have made it my agenda to make lithium to show

the world that lithium is an essential trace element. And the biggest opponent I have is the pharmaceutical industry. Why? Why would they be opposed? Well, all these diseases that follow this deficiency of lithium are their biggest markets. So what's their argument? So if I were to have Albert Bula, who I'd love to interview, right now, and I asked him about, you in your pro-lythium agenda, what would he say? How would he criticize you? Well, they have no real arguments. I mean, the arguments are not strictly as simply not there. Every argument I can counter quickly, but they are not even open to discuss it. So maybe they have a lithium deficiency. I don't know. But they're not even open to discuss it. Even if I asked

JetGPT, for example, it gave it my example, all the results of my research. and that this is now what I have, the answer was, okay, lithium fulfills all the criteria that were necessary for all the other trace elements when they were named or defined as essential. So if you have a lack, you have essentially dead animals, you know, they are not fertile anymore. They are not fertile anymore. We have a disease. actually six weeks after my speech at the European Parliament, Nature published, you know,

Nature, a very prestigious paper journal. They published a study from Harvard University. And they looked at the brains of Alzheimer's patients who died. They checked what trace elements do they have in their brain and how does it link the amount of trace elements they find to the disease stage. And they found that from 27 or 28 different trace elements they checked, not all of them are essential but also aluminum is a trace element in our body,

because it is there and it traces. But from 28 trace elements that looked at, only one was significantly correlated to the disease, and that was the lack of lithium. And it correlates completely to what we find in studies, epidemiological studies, if you have a lack of lithium in your water, which is the main source of lithium, then you have a high risk of Alzheimer's and also a risk of dying of Alzheimer's. And then they took mice and removed lithium and they immediately developed Alzheimer's, the mice, cross-ever genetic engineer to develop Alzheimer's.

But they usually don't develop Alzheimer's if you treat them well, because if you give them room to run around, if they're happy animals, They don't care if they have a gene in their brain that actually causes Alzheimer's, a human gene that causes Alzheimer's. This is actually what I published many years ago. There are mutations in genes that cause Alzheimer's, but they don't cause Alzheimer's. They accelerate Alzheimer's. But what they accelerate is a state of deficiencies that we have in our body that if we remove them, actually the mutations in these genes don't make any difference.

So, essentially, behavior trumps, you know, genetics. You know, behavior in the sense of giving the body what he needs. If we do that, our brain or our body actually doesn't care what kind of genes actually might cause Alzheimer's. You can overcome the genetic disposition. So anyway, these animals were genetically engineered to have these predisposition to Alzheimer. They don't get Alzheimer's. But once you remove lithium from their diet, they actually develop the disease.

And if you give the lithium back, the disease disappears. Do you think that if everyone in the United States got a milligram of lithium every day, what would be the effects? It would be dramatic. And not only, of course, lithium by itself is just curing one deficiency. As I outlined in my book, there are many deficiencies that people suffer from. Omega 3 would be one, vitamin D might be another, depending on how their diet is, it might be vitamin B12 or whatever, you know.

So there are many deficiencies and you have to, of course, based on the law of the minimum, you have to get rid of all of them. But lithium is a really good start. Actually, a friend of mine, he is a pediatrician. He actually gives lithium to all the children, meanwhile. And he says, and he did before that over 20 years he gave them vitamin D, he gave them omega-3 fatty acids. He gave them everything they needed.

But he didn't know about lithium until he met me. So now he started to give them lithium. with him. It does it now for two years. And since he did this, he said, this is the most life-changing trace element he has ever experienced in 20 years. After a few days, children who are irritable are not irritable anymore, children who refuse to go to school because they have a lot of anger driven, they don't socialize, it's gone. We reverse autism this way, you know, in the early stages. I have a friend of mine. Her son is 17 years old. We met several times. He didn't want to look in my eyes. He couldn't speak. He actually put it on YouTube after a few months of lithium and

of course everything else. After a few months, he actually sent me a message through YouTube, thanked me officially, and he looked into the camera and said, my life has changed since I got lithium. It will change everything. In chapter four of the book, I put together something, that I would say it would be a revolution in medicine. At the very moment you have the law of the minimum, which actually is a law of nature, for everything that has to grow, it needs basically based on its evolutionary history, which defines the necessities, you know. I mean a cactus has a different necessity to grow than a fern tree, you know, a plant who lives in a

in the brushes, in the dark, in the woods, you know, I mean, every plant has a different requirement to grow. And the same goes, of course, for us, we have different requirements than a fish or, I don't know, a dog, everybody, every species on this planet has specific requirements, but they are all defined by the law of the minimum. It might be different for different species,

but the law of the minimum is always responsible that we live to our genetically optimum, to our genetic optimum. And so if something is missing, then of course it will be detrimental. This is basic science. It's understandable. We don't have to be a doctor to know that, you know?

It's so simple to understand. This basic law of life, the law of the minimum, actually is also the law of the maximum. You shouldn't give anybody something that is too much of something. it's the law of the maximum and between you have the ability for what we call homeostasis, self-regulation.

Self-regulation is impeded if something is missing, law of the minimum or if something is too much. And these two laws are not taught in med school, at least not in Europe, at least not in Germany, I would say, or in Switzerland or in Austria. Because I talked to many doctors and I had studied in med school,

this basic law is not taught. And why is it not taught? Because all chronic chronic cancer, diseases essentially a result of not obeying the law of the minimum and the maximum. If these laws are not obeyed, gornic disease will ensue. So once you know that and you know that if you have a deficiency in A, you cannot cure it by giving B, then every drug that is prescribed by doctors lose their sense. Because if you have a deficiency, let's say in lithium and your brain develops Alzheimer's, what drug could help you? It must be lithium. Nothing else helps. So every

drug that the pharmaceutical industry tries to develop is essentially a lithium mimetic, a pure alternative to lithium. But at the same time, they have to make sure that nobody takes lithium because their drugs would be worthless. And when I gave the talk at the European Parliament, actually showed it for Alzheimer's. And there are many reviews out now, meta-analysis, where they looked at studies where people with Alzheimer's got lithium.

So lithium at a very low dose, 300 microgram, that's not even a milligram. 300 microgram, that's 0.3 milligram. Actually, stabilized Alzheimer's patients for 15 months, while the control group now went downhill. It was just a single molecule. If you do everything that's in here in the book, you can actually reverse Alzheimer's.

And this is what I think should be the future of medicine, a preventive medicine that gives people everything they need based on the law of the minimum. When you say reverse Alzheimer's, give us a scenario where that would work. Well, you realize. At what stage in the progression of disease? It's in the early stage.

It's in the early stage. It's like you can reverse, for example, diabetes. Yes. And type 2 diabetes. I should say, I've taken for granted now. people know that. 15, 20 years ago, if you said you can reverse type 2 diabetes,

you would have been left at. Yeah, I know. I was laughed at. Oh, you said that then? Yeah, sure, sure. 15 years ago, I already proclaimed that all these diseases can be reversed, but I took the most difficult path.

I tried to convince people that it also works for Alzheimer's. And that's where I published my first books. Yeah, that is not a conventional view right now. No, it's not, but you can reverse it. because Alzheimer's in the early stage, that's why I call it hippocampal dementia, starts in the hippocampus.

And when the hippocampus is affected, the first thing that you lack is a lack of sense in where you are, what you just experienced, and this is all driven by a lack of these nerve cells that I call index neurons. The index neurons are the nerve cells in the hippocampus, they index essentially all the information that you have learned during the day. So we are sitting here and if I want to remember in a few weeks, in a few years,

our conversation, the index neurons essentially get this information, the content of our discussion here from our brain and they have to reconstruct it so it becomes conscious again. And in order to do that, they require the two informations. When did the conversation take place and where? When and where? Actually, for the where, this is I called space neurons. The Nobel Prize was given, I think it was 2016 or so, or 2014. I think it was 16.

The Nobel Prize was given for the discovery that the hippocampus has cells that memorize where something happened. In the same year, the time neurons were discovered. The hippocombus also traces down when something happened. And the when and where we can connect, this is my term, to an index. These are index neurons. They have an index like if you're going to the library, every book contains some information. And this is like the confirmation that we, the information that we are exchanging here.

This information is in a book, but you have to find this book in your brain again. And there you need an index for this book. The index is the time when the conversation happened and the where, where the conversation happened. And the index neurons happen to be the ones that are produced every day. Index neurons are produced by the adult hippocombo neurogenesis every day. So in order for our brain to store new books every day, lifelong, we have to produce new cells. That's what the index neurons are for.

That's what the neurogenesis is for, the production of new nerve cells. Now, if you stop this production because you don't obey the law of the maximum, you give the brain too much toxins, alcohol, whatever, too much, then it stops. If you have a lack of something, the law of the minimum, it cannot go. If you have a lack of lithium, production is not as good. For example, lithium is known that it activates the production of brain-derived neurotropic factor. Brain-derived neurotropic factor is a growth factor for the production of neural cells in the hippocamp. compass. Lithium shuts down severe inflammation.

Inflammation shuts down neurogenesis. So lithium is helping you that if you come under stress, that you don't immediately have a complete shutdown by neuroinflammation of the production of new nerve cells in your brain. And lithium, that's maybe the oldest effect of lithium, and I was able in the book to show that the first cell that ever existed on this planet, However, it was created, maybe God, however.

It doesn't matter. The first cell on this planet is called the last universal common ancestor of all life on this planet, of plants, bacteria, humans. The first cell that was in the evolutionary tree, the first one on the bottom, had already a defense system which I was able to show relied on lithium. and the defense system is called autophagy, the ability, very known self-eat. Autophagy is activated by inhibition of an enzyme called Inocetone monophosphatease. Complicated word, I call it impase. So impase is an enzyme that is essentially activated by magnesium and inhibited by lithium. So it's like a gas paddle and a brake.

pedal, you know? Yes. And if all in order to drive a car safely, you have to brake and and and accelerate, you know, you have to be able to do both. So homeostasis requires that you have both, magnesium and lithium. But if you only have magnesium and no lithium, then actually autophagy is shut down. Autophagy is required to activate, is required for the impase to shut, to activate the autophagy process. So if you think about that our brain has the ability to become 100 years old,

it can only become 100 years old. If first neurogenesis is taking place all the time into hippocampus. Otherwise, you develop Alzheimer's and die. And the second thing is that all the other nerve cells, every nerve cell in your brain has to become 100 years old. Because the nerve cell you cannot replace. You cannot remove it and put another one in if it doesn't work anymore properly. has to stay healthy from the day you are born up to the oldest age. And the only way to stay healthy for 100 years maybe is that this nurse cell has the ability for a very active autophagy self-eating. Eating of mitochondria that they don't work anymore, of proteins that don't work anymore,

that they don't become just debris, no, lying around and make the cell dysfunctional. We have to make sure that the cell is all. always active and functional. And it's the only way to do that is autophagy. So autophagy is become the oldest process probably in the whole living kingdom in life. Fasting can spur autophagy, is that correct? Fasting is a very good way to do that.

And lithium is a key that it actually works. So we all have a little bit lithium in us, so we still have a little bit of autophagy, but it could be much better if we had the essential dose. To be totally clear, you're calling for about a milligram a day per person. Yeah. And I'm not the first one.

There was actually a key scientist actually also a German, but he had his own department at the University of San Diego. And he published a paper in 2002 about the essentiality of lithium at the time. Everything he knew at the time, he put together in a review article. He had his own department. he was one of the leading experts in the world on trace elements and vitamins. And he published that lithium is essential and you need one milligram. He at the time was not, yeah, he published it, but nobody really took notice of that.

And the problem was also he didn't really explain how he came to one milligram. And also, of course, he didn't have all the information at the time that now 20 years later I got, no access to so i could be i could in my book i was more thorough uh the the the chain of evidence is complete now and uh when i did some reasoning how much we need i also came to one milligram so i so is there any doubt so if so that was 24 years ago if i took a milligram of lithium every day for 24 years would there be any downside any negative effects not that i know of it the deficiency is the problem yes um Lithium is probably the safest trace element from all essential trace elements which are out there.

For example, iodine, the recommended daily allowance, if you go three, four, five times above that, it could become problematic. The same goes for selenium, for zinc, for many of these magnesium, four, five, ten times more and it becomes dangerous. Lithium, the European Chemical Association Agency, which essentially is advising the European Commission. They published a paper recently, or a few years ago, that you can go up to 85 milligrams of lithium a day without harm on the long run, 85 milligram. I wouldn't regret 85 milligram, but this is 85-fold. So you are far away from any toxicity. So, okay, so to the

practical part of the conversation, what should the average person do every day to reap the benefits you describe. Yeah, I would take lithium actually, unless you are living already in an area with a lot of lithium in the tap water, and you have to drink the tap water, of course, and maybe two liters or so if it's just, let's say, a half-millimeter per liter per watt. But I would recommend lithium or rotate. And actually, that's what also the Nature paper said, that I just quoted, you know, which was published on 6th of August 25, that lithium has physiological role in our brain,

that is important for keeping the brain healthy. It's essentially the natural antidote against Alzheimer's. Still, the European Union still doesn't like it to be, you know, inaugurated as an essential trace element, but I need only one country to do that. But this is a different story. So what should you do? The paper in nature actually recommended the same salt of lithium that I recommend. Of course, lithium, I talked about lithium chloride, you know, in this when they... Replace table salt with a thousand times.

Yeah, when they poison the people, lithium chloride is not good because the lithium is ionized very quickly. The same actually is with lithium carbonate. Lithium carbonate is what people get with bipolar disorder. But the carbonate becomes essentially CO2 in your stomach and you have the pure lithium. It's an iron. Much better and more effective is what I recommend is lithium orotate. Orotate is the salt of the erotic acid, and this was formerly known as vitamin B-13. It was 20 years ago it was recognized as a vitamin, until we found out, the researchers found out, that the orotic acid is produced by the female breast, when they produce milk.

So the breast milk contains the arotic acid. Actually, it's the Greek word, erotic acid stands for milk. And it was first discovered only in milk from cows and from other animals. And it took a while that they realized, also humans can produce it. And then it became,

it became, it was that it's not a vitamin anymore because we can produce it. And it's a key component of nucleic acids. So if you need this erotic acid to produce new cells, to double, for example, your DNA and when you produce cells. So it's very important

for your body. And because it's so important, there are transport systems in your stomach, in your gut, and there are transport systems over the blood-bane barrier, they try to deliver the orotic acid to the cells that are important for us and particularly nerve cells. So they produce, the orotic acid has a transport system and the lithium can hijack essentially this transport system because it forms a very stable complex. So lithium orotate is ideal and the scientists from Harvard University actually tested

different lithium salts and I was very happy because the boot was already out that they concluded lithium orotate is the way to go. So back to your question, what would I recommend? I would recommend one milligram of lithium every day in form of

lithium or rotate. And what form is, I mean, for the average person, don't have access to a science lab. You can just go on Amazon and buy that? Yeah, you can go to a drugstore. In Europe, it's no problem. In America, it's no problem. States. In Europe it is a problem. Of course, you can also get it at Amazon because the import,

for example, from the United States is allowed, you know. I actually talked to a lawyer and she said to me that you can actually buy it in the United States. You can essentially request it to ship to you, but you're not allowed by, for example, European law to get it shipped for your whole family because then you become a drug dealer. That's too much lithium for you. It's too much lithium. You are not allowed because you're only for personal consumption. So we have this very stupid strange situation that first lithium is not acknowledged as an essential

trace element, even though it is. And then on top of that, we have a prohibition. It's forbidden to put lithium for European companies in, in some. supplements, making it completely idiotic. Well, idiotic or actually kind of brilliantly diabolical. Absolutely. If you were trying to subdue and destroy a population, it seems like this would be a good way to do it.

If you want to assure that people are willing to follow narratives, if you are, you know, when shut down the mental immune system, taking away lithium or making it difficult to supplement it, even creating fear of lithium. lithium because, you know, people are treated with lithium and they have bipolar disorder. But then they get hundreds of milligrams, very close to toxic, lethal dose, really close. You have to monitor them pretty much every other week that they don't overdose. You know, it's very toxic. Many people with bipolar disorder actually discontinue based on the side effects they experience.

And all these side effects are in, you can Google them, you know, you go to Google and then it says, say, okay, it harms your kidneys, it harms your thyroid, it harms many things, you know, because, of course, you overdose it essentially as a treatment. And people fear now lithium is toxic. The problem in Germany is, and in all over Europe, since it is not allowed as a supplement, you have to have a prescription by a doctor for an essential amount. And this is totally ridiculous because now you have to convince first a doctor, that they prescribe it to people.

So people who read my book say, okay, I want to have lithium for myself, for my family, for my kids, but I can't go to a drugstore. I have to essentially go to a doctor writing me a prescription. But the doctor, if he was well, good enough indoctrinated by the med school, by the idea of the pharmaceutical industry, the dogma, you know the dogma of the pharmaceutical industry that we are taught in med school? It's quite simple. First of all, humans are a failure of nature, a misconstruction.

They tend to all kinds of diseases. And third, only the pharmaceutical industry can save us. Okay? That sounds like a religion to me. It's a religion. It's a dogma that we are taught, and we are not taught the law of the minimum, which would essentially make this sound stupid. Because the law of the minimum says, well, you get a chronic disease

if you have a leg of something that is essential for you. So once I realize that, then as a doctor, I would give every patient what he needs that he doesn't get a disease. It would be preventive medicine. But preventive medicine requires the understanding of the law of the minimum. But this is not taught.

What is taught is people get all kinds of diseases. When I left med school, I essentially knew nature is, I believe nature is playing a game with me So either I end up with Alzheimer's, a stroke, heart attack, or cancer. This is... These are my choices. And I actually went into basic research, genetic research, to help the pharmaceutical industry

to solve these problems until I realized by my own experience that maybe my lifestyle is a cause of a heart attack that I was prone to get when I was 40. Yes. So when I realized, I just have to change. my life a little bit to omit all these diseases, then I really became interested because I'm a researcher. So what happened? And then I discovered the law of the minimum, you know, this law, this law, which is for agriculture, for humans. When I realized that, everything changed. I realized, now, we need a complete new medical system. And MAHA is exactly that, you know, it's exactly

My paper Unified Theory of Alzheimer's is essentially a blueprint of Maha, but it contains lithium and it contains algae oil. If these two components are added, Maha will be a great success. I'm going to do everything I can to pass the word. Dr. Thank you for this. Yeah, I thank you. Thank you very much for your time. Yeah, it was a pleasure.

It really was.