The Tucker Carlson Show - Vince Coglianese: DNC Predictions, Don Lemon, and Why Kamala Harris Is Terrified

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

Happy DNC week. Vince Coglianese previews the grotesqueries. (00:00) Why They Wear Masks (10:20) DNC Offering Abortions and Vasectomies (43:00) Don Lemon (51:11) Hiding Joe Biden at the DNC (1:07:10) Kamala Harris and Tim Walz Are Weird (1:40:57) The Power of Spoken Word Paid partnerships: PureTalk: https://PureTalk.com/Tucker Jase Medical: Use promo code “Tucker” at https://Jasemedical.com Unplugged: Get $25 off a new phone with code "Tucker" at https://Unplugged.com/Tucker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC Optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. The Democratic National Convention starts this week. Appalling, but there are thankfully entertainment possibilities, and we think we've found them. So for the first time in a long time,

we are going live this Thursday night, 8.30 Eastern. We'll be doing a live stream to react to Carmella Harris's primetime speech. Great. Jason Whitlock will join us in studio. This will be airing on TCN only. We recommend it strongly. So go to tuckercarlson.com to see the whole thing live Thursday night, 8.30. In the meantime, here's our latest episode on the DNC with Vince Colonese. So someone just sent me a video of the protesters outside the DNC. Yeah. So I guess, almost by definition, even crazier than the people inside the DNC. And the first thing you notice is they're all wearing masks outside. And I don't want to be mean. Mental illness is real. They're

obviously mentally ill. Definitely. But what's so interesting is I never see that in my life. Do you ever see anybody wearing masks outside? Well, I live near Washington, so yes. You actually do now? Yeah. So there are categories of people, I think, who are just neurotic and who've been misled, especially by the left. And they wear the mask still up until this very day. Do you know how bad that is for your health? It's awful. It's awful. It's also-

I'd rather smoke cigarettes any day. I actually think the cost to socialization is even worse. It's like your health is awful, but like, what does that say about you and how isolated you are from the rest of society? That can't be good for your head. And the truth is, I think, I don't think it's for like a lot of these people. I don't really think in the end it's really about the health. They maybe soothe themselves by saying that. Fundamentally, it's a political gesture.

It's, I'm a part of a club. It's a uniform. It's signaling you're with the left. And they're still doing it to this day. It's like crazy. I think I'm just too out of it. I mean, because I see that and I'm like, okay, especially if it's a man, you're totally emasculated and pathetic. Definitely. You have no self-respect at all. You hate yourself and for good reason. That's the first thing I think. With contempt, but also pity, like I just can't, like you actually see people with masks outside.

Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately. And I do think, like, the people that you're talking about outside the convention, that's also a means to commit a crime and get away with it. Well, that's right. That's really, so a lot of states in our country, I don't know if it's all the states, but a lot of them have anti-masking laws. Of course. On the books. And the concept is that you should- Going back to the 1920s.

Shouldn't, like, a bandit, like, be able to just rob a store with a handkerchief tied around your face so they have anti-masking laws which i think are still on the books and no one's ever gotten rid of them those were anti-clan laws i think in most places well that would that would be a useful uh law in order to prevent that activity so anyway but they but these guys, and they commit crimes. It's the same, it's the truth about Antifa. How often did we see a riot committed by Antifa where they destroyed things, where they killed people, where they burned, they burned down the third precinct in Minneapolis, all of the chaos, and they're wearing masks in order to prevent people from knowing who they are so that they can be held accountable. And we accept it because the left says, well, mask wearing is necessary. I don't want to digress too much,

which is a problem that I have, but did the FBI ever, I mean, I know we spent a lot of time tracing the roots of Christian nationalism and like scary middle-class grandmothers are still in jail from January 6th, et cetera, et cetera. But did anybody in law enforcement ever get to the bottom of Antifa? No, no. And they've shown almost no interest in it. In Antifa. In fact, you remember when- Came to my house and threatened my wife,

vandalized my house, killed a bunch of people around the country. Yeah. And were just totally ignored. I remember really clearly. Did the cops ever follow up with you after your house was attacked? Of course not.

Anyone ever get- I don't want to make it about me or whine about it. It's not about me. Well, no. They didn't hurt me. You would think as a victim of it, as your wife being a victim of it, then maybe you'd be given a readout on what happened. No, nobody cared.

And the cops did come to my house months later. In fact, two black cops, both of whom told me they were voting for Trump in DC. Great guys. Yeah. Came to my house and told me to carry a gun when I went outside. Which the cops said, you're on your own. That's what they didn't say. You're on your own. They said, we recommend you that you carry. But that is the message, which I, you know, which I did, of course, but no, they were actually great. But no, but there was no effort to kind of find out who did this.

But it's just interesting. Again, I don't want to make it about me because it's not, but I just think it's remarkable that you could have this armed militia in the streets that still exists and nobody at the FBI, they really are criminals, the people who run the

FBI, if I can just say. Chris Reyes are freaking criminal. I'm trying not to use the F word. But they don't get to the bottom of it. Yeah. Well, just ask the crisis pregnancy centers around the country. So, all the pro-life pregnancy centers, the ones who actually help mothers, who actually provide diapers and formula and who work with them in the early stages of their child's life. Yeah, adoption. Like angels on earth. Every single person I've interviewed who works with or for a crisis pregnancy center is, first of all, a lot better person than I am. And you can feel the spirituality come off of them. The goodness, the innate goodness come off of them. And all of the crimes against those places, they don't get solved. In fact, they don't even get looked into in any meaningful way.

And that includes firebombing, that includes vandalism, smashing windows, attacking these facilities. Meanwhile, if you're singing church hymns outside of an abortion mill, your life will be destroyed. If you're a grandmother singing church hymns outside of an abortion mill, your life will be destroyed. And when Merrick Garland, the attorney general, was asked about this in Congress, like, hey, crisis pregnancy centers being destroyed, old ladies singing outside of abortion mills, he said, well, he didn't say the old lady, but the old lady, her face is out and it's in daylight, so we can catch her. But the Antifa people, they do it at night.

So Speaker Mike Johnson, who's constantly telling you what a great Christian he is, sort of led the effort to refund the FBI and build them a new headquarters and has done nothing. I mean, the FBI is now a kind of anti-Christian secret police force. And the purportedly Christian Speaker of the House just sort of rubber stamps their funding every year, and nobody does anything about this. I mean, you can feel the frustration in my voice, I think. It's totally despicable. And I hate dwelling on that. I do too. Because what it starts to do is it creeps into your mind, but none of it matters. Like you start, you start becoming so fatalist about it. No, it's so true. It's like, it's like,

I don't care whatever the outcome is, it's all going south. It's totally right. And I don't want to be tempted by that thought. Like I really don't. That's deep. Actually. Yes. But it, it, not that I have any idea what you're talking about, Vince. It drives me so crazy. No, I know. Which is why, okay, so do you think Trump learned enough lessons from round one in order to do it differently in round two?

I can't answer that question. You can't because you have no idea. I don't want to. You don't want to. You know, you hope so. I mean, I think like a lot of people,

why am I talking? I'm here to interview you. But since you asked, I think like a lot of people, well, first of all, I really like Trump enormously as a person. A, B, I think that the alternative is so shocking that I've kind of put on pause all thoughts like the one you just raised. Exactly. Right. Because it's super clear what's going to happen if the Democratic Party holds power. It's

not about Kamala Harris. She's not even, I don't think there's any evidence she's like an actual person. No. Right. So it's about the party. It's about the collective. It's about the people who really have wrecked the country, continuing to loot it and to destroy the first and second amendments, the Bill of Rights, civil liberties in the United States for another four years, which will really be kind of the end and then just a one-party state. That's what I foresee. And that's just so bad

that I'm not spending a ton of time thinking about the question that you just raised. But, you know, I hope so, for sure. Yeah, but the, I mean, first of all, the chances of both of these scenarios are very high. Like one where Kamala wins and we head for what you think is the end.

Do you, is it that dark for you? Do you think? Well, I have no idea. My ability to foresee the future is like non-existent. Every political call I've ever made is wrong. And that's true, by the way, of almost like literally everybody in politics. Yeah, and I also think just judging from my own brief and not very exciting life, one takeaway from it though, after 55 years is your victories turn out very often to be your losses and your losses almost always turn out to be your victories.

Yeah. And we don't see that as people, it's a consistent theme throughout history, throughout the old and new testaments. It's like, just when you think everything is lost, that is, I mean, well, that actually, that's the theme of Christianity out of, you know, being tortured to death. The world is saved, so. Don't you feel like that that happened in 2020? So, in a sense, the losses of 2020 have definitely hardened, like, the world of normal people to the point that, like, they're not playing games anymore. They're not dressing up their language. They're being very clear about their thinking. Yes.

They know where all of this is going. They're not trying to suck up to everybody else. No, that's right. I mean, like, look, if we had to do 2020 over again, I don't want the outcome that we got, but I will say it's made a lot of people better. And in fact, you and I have talked about this. It's made a lot of people better. That is absolutely right. The spiritual component, the religious component in the country took off in a way that I couldn't have foreseen. No, that's right.

In 2020, don't you think? I felt it coming. I don't know why, but I actually have not been surprised by it. I've been delighted to see it, but not surprised. But I do think that people I know and really blessed to know are all deeper and smarter and warmer with each other, more real with each other, more I love yous, more honesty.

They're more intentional. Way more. So I just know for my own family, and I'm not talking about material prosperity, I just mean, I'm speaking only in terms of love, is so much stronger and happier after COVID, after the BLM riots, after all the sadness we've seen, after the clearly stolen election.

All these bad things happen, but people I know love each other more. So, yeah, no, you're absolutely, so, like, I'm not going to even guess. I shouldn't even have said all that about the Democratic Party because I don't know what's going to happen. Well, I guess if you take the long view, which as a Christian you should, if you take the long view, in the end, you're not really all that disturbed by the pace of this. I mean, you're disturbed on behalf of your family, of course, you care about your country, but you have this eternal optimism that, well, the Bible does kind of lay out the misery that precedes

glory, you know? Well, that's exactly right. And so, in the end, you always wonder like, at what stage in history are we living through? Yeah. So, I think you have an advantage because you're 15 years younger than me-ish. Something like that. Something like that, maybe more. But I was born in 69. And so from 69 to 2016, my core assumption was, you know, everything's great and everything's going to get better every year. And like bad things don't happen. Our system is totally solid. And, you know, there are, of course, bad actors within the system,

but they don't control the system. The system is fundamentally real. It is a democracy in some loose sense. Yeah. The people do have a say in how they're governed, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 9-11 is real. I mean, you know, like whatever.

I just like kind of believed everything. And, but, you know, the lesson of history is there's always turmoil. And a lot of things are always going to be fake. Right. And, you know, the Lord of the Earth is Satan. I mean, that's kind of, right? And so it's just like, this is what it is. It's what it's always been.

I just think people who are your age are less shocked by that than I am. Yeah. Yeah. My main impediment is just being shocked. less shocked by that than I am. Yeah. Yeah. My main impediment is just being shocked. Like, I can't believe this is happening. Yeah, that's true. What? They're putting people in prison for praying at abortion clinics? Like, what? They replaced Easter with Transvisibility Day? I can't believe this. I know. I know. I'm not a boomer, but it is kind of, thankfully, I'm not a boomer, but it's kind of a boomer response.

The opening ceremonies to the Olympics. Yeah. The fact that they would do a fake Last Supper with all trans people or drag people. It's like, does it get any more brazen? I mean, and they're like, oh, it's totally normal. Like, what are you all complaining about? What? I mean, it is, they double barrel middle finger every christian honor

of course because christianity is the enemy that's what they hate that's what they that's what they actually hate like all the other all the nonsense we're here to help black people we're here to help trans people we're here to help immigrants you're not here to help anybody you're here to oppose christianity is what you're here to do period that's their goal whether they know it or not but yeah don't listen to what they say, watch what they do. For sure. So what, okay. Tell me what to make of,

speaking of spiritual themes in our politics, the abortion lobby shows up at the DNC this week and sends with them a mobile vasectomy clinic. So you can get snipped if you want at the DNC. This at a time where the birth rate among native board Americans is like not way below replacement. Definitely. Not having babies. Yeah.

Why would that be your priority? It's a death call. It's a total death call. I mean, look, at the bottom of every one of these policies that they pitch and they sell you as a good thing is human suffering. At the bottom of all of them. Yeah. So a really good example of this is the climate stuff. So let's assume for a moment that all of their climate catastrophizing is correct.

Yes. That it's our activity that's making the earth warmer. Okay. Well, it turns out that the warmer the planet is, the better it is for humans. Right. More humans survive in an environment where the earth is warmer. Okay. Well, it turns out that the warmer the planet is, the better it is for humans. More humans survive in an environment where the earth is warmer. In fact, when the earth is colder, lots of people die. Lots of people die. And so, and there's no, actually no, there's no challenge to that science whatsoever. It's totally clear. You know, if it's a matter of like sea level rise, all this other stuff, we have like amazing alert systems, hurricanes. the reason people don't die to hurricanes is because we have we have such a far

out advanced notice that they're coming uh our buildings are so much more durable they never talk about death counts by the way when they talk about hurricanes and what they're doing in the climate change way fewer people die due to hurricanes now it's never at its core about human flourishing ever so if it's not about human flourishing, ever. So if it's not about human flourishing, it's about the opposite. It's about death. It's, they're totally fine with it. In fact, they view us as a cancer on the earth,

at least the radical left's so-called environmental movement. And the abortion thing, it is, it's a death cult. All sort of like pagan tribal religions have had death rituals. Of course, human sacrifice is the one constant. On my radio show, I refer to this as human sacrifice all the time because that's what it is. Breaking yourself of the spell of using their terminology is such a challenging thing to do because it's like everywhere.

It surrounds you. It's like every newspaper you read, every television show you watch, every social media post you consume, lots of them in the past. They use like the language of the left as it's shifting, as it's modifying. And if you don't use the language, you're censored. So it's mind control, as you know. And so the obsession with death and advancing it as a social good is one of the most destructive things that any culture can do. And we're living through it. I mean, this abortion fetish is out of control. And you know what's even crazier is that the Kamala campaign, to the extent that one exists that has a policy agenda, that's their thing.

They think that's their number one issue. Is abortion. Yeah. And they think that she's a great pitch woman for it. She's so good at abortion. She's like- So how many abortions would equal freedom and happiness? We don't have enough abortions?

That's the- No. But is there, can they, I mean, I always feel like in politics, you know, effective politicians describe the future. They will bring you a few vote for them. Yeah. Vote for me and you get whatever, a new car. Fine. I get that. But when you run on abortion, it's like we have a lot, we have hundreds of thousands of abortions every year, hundreds and hundreds of thousands

of abortions every year. So how many more until we're happy? I mean, some years we've had, I think in the vicinity of a million abortions a year, which for those people who pay attention to immigration, that's about the number of legal immigrants we bring into the country every year. So we're aborting a million Americans and then importing a million workers each year, give or take. That number changes. And it's super disheartening because it's like, first of all, you're killing off the next generation of the people who have a vested interest in this country. And then you're importing people who don't at all. It's-

And no tie to its history at all or to its systems or to its creed. Yeah. It's not- To its culture, to its language. They're not even bothering themselves with that question. It's like a sensible immigration system would actually be predicated on those questions. What can you contribute? How much do you adhere?

Are you going to assimilate? Are you going to buy into our culture and creed? Those are the core questions of how you compose a country and allow immigration at the same time. They're not even, they're alighting those. Who cares? Just bring everybody in and forget legal. We'll establish an app south of our border

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That's D-A-Z-N.com slash FIFA. And then convincing Americans that having children is like the worst thing that they could ever do. Who would get a vasectomy at the DNC? That component of this is the part that makes me think that Turning Point is paying for it or something. Like somebody set up, like a right-wing group set up a vasectomy machine outside of the DNC is pretty funny. But I don't know. I mean, the left has been obsessed with abortion for years.

And birth control. It hasn't diminished the number of people who buy into the storyline. It's just so interesting. I mean, I've been pro-life, you know, since my 20s anyway, when I had kids and really thought about it. Yeah, yeah.

Even before then. But I never really connected that to birth control. I mean, I'm Protestant. I never had any problem with birth control, practice birth control. But I'm not really sure I think of it now, but I know what I think of people who are obsessed with preventing conception and childbirth.

Yeah. Like, what is that? Why the obsession? Yeah. They're obsessed with it, and then they pretend that there's, like, no moral qualms about it. Well, they're obsessed with it,

and then they pretend that everyone else is like, you're obsessed with controlling women's bodies. No, I appreciate women's bodies. I don't really want to control anybody. It's stupid, but that's, like, that's misdirection, of course. It is nothing to do with that. That's, like, putting the debate in a place that they feel that they can have it safely. that's like, that's misdirection, of course. It is nothing to do with that. That's like putting it,

putting the debate in a place that they feel that they can have it safely. But like, if you were for it, and there are a limited number of people who I've heard

make honest arguments, like, yeah, it's extinguishing a human life. Like, a human life dies. Yeah. But I think it's worth it. They try and,

at least that person is being honest about what's happening. Yeah. At least that's an honest conversation. Instead, with the left,

that's just like, you'd be like, okay, we want to pass a law to prevent late-term abortions. No late-term abortions. Which, with the left, that's just like, you'd be like, okay, we want to pass a law to prevent late-term abortions. No late-term abortions. Which, by the way, the whole country agrees that no baby should be killed in the third trimester. That's a terrible time to do that.

It's always a terrible time, but that's where the public thinks. A child who can live outside the womb? Yes. And so what the left says is, oh, that never happens. Or they'll say, oh, it only happens in very rare, very rare circumstances where the life of the mother's on the line. Really? Because actually, that's bullshit.

Yeah. That's total bullshit. And the reason I know that is because the Guttmacher Institute, which is the leading gatherer of abortion statistics on behalf of the abortion industry, says that the majority of abortions that take place late term are healthy babies, healthy mothers. Healthy babies, healthy mothers, the majority. Nobody knows this because the media doesn't tell you that. It oftentimes involves women who either didn't know they were pregnant,

which suggests that they probably weren't all that healthy, physically healthy. Or it's women who dither on the question on whether or not they would get the abortion at all. They eventually, in a very late stage, decide to do it. Or are pressured into it.

Or are pressured into it, which is a means for helping the worst kind of men in our country. Of course. And that's really, I mean,

at its core, like if you really wanted to attack it, it's a deeply misogynist institution. Of course. You know? Women only have value to the extent

they work for me at some bank. Yeah. I mean, no one ever says the truth, which has to do with labor. But women are amazing employees because they're more dutiful and reliable than men. And having had a lot of women work for me, I can say that.

I worked in a business that was mostly women. And having had a lot of women work for me, I can say that. I worked in a business that was mostly women and they're amazing employees. They're less distracted. They're more task oriented. Yeah. And they actually do what they say they're going to do. You know what I mean? They don't space out and try to improvise midway through or get high in the men's room and forget. Right. They just like women, just like my daughters my son, you know, they're just like, they do the job. And so it's great to have women work for you. And they're nice too, especially if you're a man. They're like, just get along with them.

It's great. And I love working with women. But there's a temptation, like if you were soulless to want to encourage them, like not to have kids because they get in, that kids are a higher priority than whatever stupid job you're offering them. Yeah.

Do you know what I mean? 100%. And so the labor market pushes this shit, this anti-fertility stuff on women, tells them it's liberation. And I'm sorry to say this, but a lot of them like don't think it through and they're like, yeah, it's liberation.

It's sad. And that's how you wind up with this. Yeah. There's a group, I think it's based in DC. It's capitalism, Vince. We have to support it or else we're against free markets. There's a left-wing group in DC

that's dedicated to this issue, what you're talking about. Really? Yeah. Well, I support them because I agree with that. I think they're PPU, I think is what they call it, like Progressive Anti-Abortion Union

or something. And at its core is exactly the argument you're making, which is like, why are we telling women to be wage slaves? Right.

Like, why are we telling them that their most important purpose is corporate America? To work at a bank. All the way through their ability. You were born to work at a bank. Like, literally, like imagine, imagine if you had a window of time where you could perform magic in your life.

Literally, and the magic could only be performed during this, like, 20-year window of time. And some company hired you and said, we'll hire you under this condition. You never use your magic. Never once will you be able to use this magic ability that you'll never be able to do again. You can never use it during the time that you work for us. Okay. In fact, we'll pay for you not to do it. Which is what they do.

They do this to women. And they have this incredible, magic, miraculous ability. And we have huge sectors of our society dedicated to telling them, don't use it. Yeah. Don't you dare. Yeah. You can create life. Yeah. Or you can create use it. Yeah. Don't you dare. Yeah, you can create life. Yeah.

Or you can create a spreadsheet. Yeah. And we think the spreadsheet's more important. Or you can create value for our stock. What would you like to do? It's so unbelievable. And what's interesting is I'm now, I'm sorry, I keep attacking Republicans.

I plan to vote for them, just to be clear. Don't have an option. But the number of Republicans who sort of, leaders I'm talking about, I'm sorry, I keep attacking Republicans. I plan to vote for them, just to be clear. Don't have an option. But the number of Republicans who sort of, leaders I'm talking about, not the voters, by and large, but their leaders like totally buy into that. And they're like, I wish these, you know, pro-family, anti-abortion people, Christians would just shut up. Just shut up. Like, how does that help private equity or war against Iran?

No. Do you know what I mean? Like, they totally agree with private equity or war against Iran? No. Do you know what I mean? Like, they're, they, they totally agree with the left on these issues. Yeah, because,

And they'll call you a socialist if you disagree. I think part of it is, like, they're too lazy to take the mental inventory necessary to make the argument. Yes. I think that's part of it.

Honestly, having met, I mean, you've, you've met way more of these guys than I have, but I've met a lot of them. Oh, they're so disgusting. And,

if it's not, if it's not an issue that's, like's in the headlines right now, there's not a lot of deep thoughts on the subject. No. There's not a lot of existential thinking going on, which is unfortunate. It's really unfortunate because the right, the normal American, which I love using, by the way, I think the phrase normal is the best way to attack it because it really does reflect like what we are all thinking fundamentally, like we get right and left. Normal people like babies, right? Normal people like flourishing families. Normal people recognize the value that it's given to them and they feel awful for the people who've been sold the lies. And so we should just speak up for it. And you should, if you're a conservative politician, Republican politician, and you don't have a good argument against the death cult one you shouldn't

be a politician you should get out of the game entirely but two like at least like sit down maybe maybe you have a wife sit down with her and talk about it and like come up with some clear answers and then fight for what's right and then fight to create a world where people don't feel like they need to kill a baby in order to thrive you I would like to see, I mean, maybe I'm getting less, I don't know, laissez-faire as I get older, but if you see the energy that went in to destroying the lives of all those middle-aged, diabetic, lower middle-class white Americans who went to defend the constitution on January 6th, like really we harnessed the entire machine to crush them. Yes. As long as that machine exists, why not turn it on any company that encourages its female employees to quote, freeze their eggs?

There's something about that. Like any company that encourages women to work themselves to death in pursuit of some totally pointless goal, like private equity or banking, and then tells him, but we'll pay for you to freeze your eggs. Why don't we sick the FBI on them? Yeah. As long as we're sick in the FBI on people.

I don't know. I mean, it's like, sorry, I know I'm not supposed to say that, but I think that like those are like, that's evil. That's totally evil. It is. I mean, it's like, sorry, I know I'm not supposed to say that, but I think that. Like, those are, like, that's evil. That's totally evil.

I mean, give up the one thing that really matters that will bring you joy in your age in exchange for some shitty job at Citibank. The January 6th thing is like, is the perfect, the perfect understanding, the perfect template

for understanding all of this because remember in the wake of January 6th, that Washington Post article about how they were all in debt? I never will forget it. It was the last piece of journalism that paper committed. It was like three or four days. It was very close to January 6th. They did a basic piece of journalism, like, who are the people in the crowd? And the answer to that question was that they were all in deep financial distress. Most of them. Not all of them, I guess, but a lot of them. They had bankruptcies and massive amounts of debt and had a lot of financial discontent. And that was the last time I think that that paper treated them as humans. But at its core, what that story tells you is that they

don't have the financial means to fight back. If you have the full weight of the federal government against you with the bottomless pit of resources, they can print their own money. There's no chance you who have declared bankruptcy are going to survive in the face of that. No matter how decent you were, no matter how few laws that you actually broke or whatever, it doesn't matter. You're going to be destroyed. But if you're Purdue Pharma, you're going to get immunity to litigation if you make opioids that kill people of course the sacklers are still billionaires and then lie to them about that or you know if you're heck even khalid sheikh muhammad was headed towards a settlement until like there was a

national uproar about it and that guy the 9-11 mastermind how many years out are we from that and we have january 6 grandmas who are serving years in prison. The guy who you interviewed, Jacob Chansley, like years, like the sentences that these people have been given, lives destroyed. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed still haven't resolved that, the 9-11 attacks. It's crazy. Have we, so we got Kevin McCarthy, the former kind of mediocre speaker who is now much missed by me, to give up some of the 9-11 footage right before I got fired. The January 6th footage. Rather, the January 6th. Did I say 9-11?

Yeah. I was like, wow, that's a story. Tell me. Yeah, that is a story. Why are there any 9-11 documents still classified? What is that? Why are there any JFK documents still classified? Well, you know why. Yeah, that is a story. Why are there any 9-11 documents still classified? Like, what is that? Why are there any JFK documents still classified? Well, you know why.

Yeah. To protect people who lied about those events. But anyway, back to January 6th. Sorry. Why are we going to have to wait, you know, 61 years to see the rest of the January 6th footage? It's been almost four years. Yeah. So why is the Republican speaker continuing to hold all this footage?

Why not make it all public? Sometimes I think that they get so obsessed with controlling the storylines. They're not even good at it though. But it's like, well, we can't let that become the story because that could be a cost to us. I'm like, I don't know. What is the evidence that you're great at this? What, you know, what evidence should exist that demonstrates that you are the person that we should rely on to set the timeline

for when the public finds out this stuff? That's idiotic. And, you know, I'd happen to believe that telling the truth is the most important thing.

Because the more you do that, so long as you actually believe in our system as a place where the voters get to say, they have to have that in order to make those decisions. Of course. That's it. That's the whole ballgame.

You can't have democracy with censorship, period. Can I, I know you don't want me to ask you too many questions, but let me ask you one, at least. The fact that they replaced Biden made me a little bit hopeful that the election isn't quite as rigged as you might expect. In other words, they were so concerned that the voters really would have their say with Biden in office that they replaced him. They said, we can't, this is too much. And I've talked about this with friends on the right, and some of them are under the opinion that, oh no, it was too obvious. So if they're going to rig the election, it'd be too obvious because nobody likes Biden and they don't want to give away entirely that it was rigged. That's kind of the, I think,

the way that they explain this away. I don't think, I think that's, I think that's wrong because the left is completely brazen about their lies. I don't think they would pause for a moment to be like, oh no, the public thinks it's rigged because Biden got reelected. I actually think that at least at this moment that voters, kind of like the way Trump is saying, if they can make it too big to rig, they really do have a say right now. Which is why the info war continues, like the battle, as Alex Jones says. But the battle over the voters' minds is still so intense. It suggests to me very strongly that the election system really does work, at least to an extent. But I think that's true in any system.

I mean, what's so striking to me is how, just having traveled a lot and looked at a lot of different systems around the world, is there really are no purely totalitarian countries or systems that never have been. I mean, Stalin, who was about as close to an absolute dictator, Mao, same, as the world has ever seen. Both of those regimes spent a huge amount of time and money on propaganda, even though they had absolute power, they could kill anyone they wanted. So you really do end up ruling by consent, whether you want to or not, whether it's manufactured consent or legitimate consent, but you have to control people's brains. You can't just rule indefinitely at the point of a gun. So, you know, I'm not, I think you make a good point. I want the people in charge to at least try to convince me because that shows respect. Yeah. I'm not sure what is going on, to be honest with you.

I mean, I haven't done hallucinogens in 35 years, but I'm getting that kind of weird dream sequence feeling about American politics right now. I'm not quite sure what the hell is this. Well, you had Ben Carson on recently. Yeah. And he said something that stuck with me. I love Ben Carson. Yeah. He's a great human being. And he's the perfect case study in the way that the media will destroy you as soon as you turn against their interests. Yes. Because Ben Carson was a celebrated neurosurgeon, pediatric neurosurgeon. Up until the moment, and to the point that it was in childhood curriculums to learn about Ben Carson's life in schools. And you'd read his book, Gifted Hands,

and learn all about him. They later made a famous Hollywood movie about his life. And the second he ran for politics, they cast him as a moron. He's an idiot. He's an idiot. He's so stupid. He messed up brain surgeries all the time, right?

You started seeing all these like stories come out. And he was heralded by places like the New York Times. And then, of course, and then after that, eviscerated. The second he declared interest in Republican politics, and the second, especially, that he spoke up on behalf of life. That was so on the God frequency, though, as you know, because I know you know him. He's like, it doesn't even, it doesn't- It doesn't bother him. He's got such a great attitude. I love it. It's infectious. So he said to you that this switcheroo that they just pulled off is a test of the media's ability to rig the election.

That's right. Nicely put. And I love that. I love that because it's true. It is. And we're witnessing it right now. So my thought process is, and I wonder about you too, is that at what point does the media's ego get in the way of their partisan priorities?

In other words, Kamala's refusing to do interviews. And right now their partisan priorities are to get her elected. But you and I both know these people in the press. And if there's one thing that might override their partisan priorities, it's their obsession with themselves.

To the point that like, this drumbeat of, why isn't she doing an interview? Why isn't she sitting down with CNN? Why isn't she sitting down with ABC? It's enough to be enticing to the people in that world that they're like, you're beginning to see at least little murmurs of it, like, oh, she should do an interview. Well, the voters deserve that. You're beginning to see, I think that their egos may override their partisan. I hope so. Though I guess the counter argument would be

to work at a place like NBC News or CNN, I've worked at both, now requires total degradation, total. Like you can have no self-respect at all or you couldn't work there because you're being told to say things that are obviously untrue, to lie every single day. There's no dissent allowed.

And your average adult man wouldn't put up with that because it's like, well, I have opinions too. And as a human being and not a slave, I get to express my opinions. No, you can't. I think that's an intolerable work environment for anyone with any dignity at all. Therefore, the people who work there,

most of whom I know, they just don't have any dignity at all. Therefore, the people who work there, most of whom I know, they just don't have any dignity left. I mean, I hope I'm wrong. I want everyone to have dignity. Yes. But I don't see it, do you? No, it's like very humiliating. It's so humiliating.

I work at CNN, really? Just the crimes of omission are really obvious. They're just liars it's and then to like go on tv and then to treat people who would support trump with contempt which they were doing like this very weekend there's like the sunday shows like we interviewed these people and they have no idea what they're talking about is basically like what i know and and you do living like this absurdly pampered life like completely away from all of the problems that these people have very real problems i saw i saw don lamon is running around right now he's doing

man on the street interviews that's his latest iteration for whom for don lamon this is dl on his microphone for his own on his microphone i haven't talked to don in a while i had high hopes for don but he learned nothing. I know you did. I know you did. It's sad. Because you're good about that. But when he was talking to these...

We got fired the same day. Yeah, I know. I called him right away. But yeah, I call everyone when they're fired. Period. But yeah, he... Don, I wanted him... Because usually getting fired,

you learn something about yourself. Sure, it's humbling. It's so important to be fired regularly, I would say, especially if you're arrogant like I am. So I've really enjoyed getting fired, and I thought this will be totally good for Don, it'll be totally good for me, which it was. But Don didn't seem to even pause.

No, and the giveaway was his interview with Elon Musk. It was a total disaster because he refused to take any inventory of his priors. It was entirely a political, like, partisan talking points exercise. It was really embarrassing, actually, because if Don Lemon, I want to get back to his man on the street thing in a minute, but Don Lemon, like, a decade ago, was willing to say things on television that his network didn't agree with. And there's like this famous Morgan Freeman interview he did where the two of them were sitting around talking about how obsessing over race actually exacerbates racial division in the country. And we should stop doing that. That's what the two of them sitting there agreeing on that subject. I was like, what happened to that guy? He just sold out, I guess.

From afar, I don't know him. But how can you get fired if you're Don Lemon and you get, you know, you're hired at CNN, you're gay, you're black, you obviously can never be fired, obviously, because you can't fire someone in those categories. Ask anyone who runs a business, you can't, you're afraid to. And they fire you anyway. Then at least part of you has to think like, how did I get fired? Like, what did I do wrong? I must've played some role in this. They suck. Okay. That's fine. I hate my bosses. They humiliate me. You know, I'm mad at them. I get it. I've certainly been there, but come on. It's like a marriage. Like if it, if it

blows up, each side has some culpability. What's mine? What did I do wrong? I don't think he even... And I had a long conversation with him on the phone. I should have said, Don, I think Don has good qualities, great qualities, for TV, actually. And I told him that. But you should just really pause

and ask yourself, like, yes, CNN sucks. I can confirm that as a former employee, but you kind of suck too. So that's what fired people have to ask themselves, but he never did. Well, the underlying question for, at least for me, watching from the outside was, okay, so now he's free.

He doesn't have anybody telling him what he has to say. I know, it's so great. The script is gone. And there's nobody, there's no advertisers for you to, in fact, you can build your own. You have to say. I know. It's so great. The script is gone. And there's nobody, there's no advertisers for you to, in fact, you can build your own. You have to, that whole world. And he stuck to the script.

I was like, oh, so I guess he truly believes this nonsense. And that gets to this man on the street. He's talking to people like all across, I guess, across the country. He's going to different places or beach communities that he's staying in. And he just happens to put a microphone in people's faces.

I'm not sure. But he's talking to people and he's asking them, who are you supporting? And he's getting a lot of people saying, Trump, I'm voting for Trump. And a lot of black people responding, I'm voting for Trump. And in one, he confronts the guy who says, I was better off financially under Trump. And he says, that's not true. Don Levin- That's not true. Don Levin tells him- No, you were happier he's like trump wasn't present he's like fact

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No, but can I just ask, even like economic analysis aside, the arrogance required to look into someone's face and disagree with his own assessment of his financials. It's like, no, actually, no, actually, we've never met before. But what you just told me about your life is not true. It can't be true. It's like, shut up and listen. Just listen to people for a second. First of all, it's kind of fun. Second, you learn a lot. But how arrogant would you have to be not to listen? Just ask a few questions and then bounce your own assumptions off them and see what they say. Vince, I know you told me that you were diagnosed with cancer recently, but you don't have cancer. We've never met.

I'm not a physician, but I just want to say you don't have cancer. Silly man. That's right. That would be true if i met cory bush right she has healing hands you ever you know that story no what wait stop what's wait cory bush has healing hand cory bush is convinced that uh she has the ability to heal illnesses with her hands okay she just placed her hands on you and you're healed uh she said i believe that that exists she no but cory bush specifically has this power and she's been holding out on us i think

uh because cory bush the congresswoman just got beaten in the primary there's like a lot of there's a lot of illness all across the country why is she wasting her time not healing it yeah what is she doing in a committee meeting when she could she could be fixing pancreatic i mean i thought yeah i thought biden's whole thing was like curing cancer the moonshot initiative hello we've got cory bush Hello, cancer rates skyrocketed under Biden. Quite incredible. Yeah. Amazing. Wow. So Don is doing, sorry, just to close out the Don Lamont conversation. He was highly annoyed. He told me that I called him Don Lamont. I thought it was hilarious. And by the way, I said it with affection. Mr. Lamont is here. He always reminded

me of Ricardo Montalban in Fantasy Island. Welcome to Fantasy Island. It is a better pronunciation. I just always pictured him in like an ascot, like roll with it, like be who you are. You know what I mean? He had a kind of Suave Bolo vibe to him that I found hilarious and kind of charming. And just be that guy. Don't give me a lecture about journalism. You have no idea what it is. You've never practiced it. Just like be your kind of 70s self. You know what I mean? Yeah. Whatever. But who is he working for now?

I have no idea. I don't know how much money he's generating or what, but I guess it's kind of funny because he's complaining about his relationship with Elon Musk and he thought he had some arrangement. I don't even know what that means, but he's still producing content and posting it to X. So whatever. My feeling was, and again, I haven't called him, I should, is that he was kind of running out of options. Again, if you're Don Lamont and you get fired from CNN, how hard would that be? I mean, how many times did the HR department say when he was hassling female employees, for example, like, we can't, we can't fire this guy. I'm sorry. Like, it had to have been pretty bad. Yeah, to get that far.

I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. So what Biden's talking tonight at the DNC, what's he going to say? I know what he's not going to say, which is he's not going to hold everything that happened against, to him against his own party. He's not going to take it out on them.

He is suffering the latest indignity to his presidency, which is the sitting president of the United States is speaking on night one of the Democrat convention. That's as humiliating as it gets. You're so right. It's the lowest billing place they can put him. They want to get it done and over with so people don't think about him for the rest of the week. Such a good point. It's the whole thing. And they're dressing it up as, oh, it's a theme. We have him first, and then Obama second, and and Clinton third. And then Kamala finishes things off. This is what they want to leave you with.

But realistically, you understand the tactics here. It's like they want to bury this. They know they've got to feature him, but they want to bury it on night one. If the DNC was a fancy restaurant, Biden would be seated right next to the men's room. For sure. That is not a fashionable table. He's in the last row and coach. I know, totally.

Really upset that there's a line for the bathroom next to him. He's in the last row and coach. I know, totally. Really upset that there's a line for the bathroom next to him. He's in a middle seat. Yeah, that's, I know it's such a good point. But, I mean, he deserves it and so much more and he'll get what he deserves. But, like, it does seem like prerequisite for party membership is being willing to set aside your own interests, your own self-respect, your own dignity on behalf of the collective. Yeah. I mean, how bitter do you think he is about this in real life? I don't know.

I don't know to what extent he's capable of complex emotions or thoughts like that at this stage because he is impaired. But I know pretty certainly that his wife and his son and his daughter feel the sting. I mean, how could they not? Yeah. Guy's president. He is still president, right? But then Obama stabbed him in the back and in the front. And Nancy Pelosi stabbed him. They all did. They swooped in and they took him out. And they're not really ashamed of it at all. They're like, they're pretty nakedly brazen about it. And that's what we're left with. And like, it is so fundamentally at its core, anti-democratic. It's not about at all about the consent of the government. In fact,

the primary itself was rigged. I mean, Biden should have never even been on their primary ballot. The voters, 14 million, which is not that many people, but 14 million people registered their thoughts on the subject. And they said, we're with Biden. But again, it was rigged. They kept everybody else off the ballot. They wanted to keep RFK away from it and Dean Phillips and anybody who would possibly even deter from Biden gathering. My pal, Jill Stein. Yeah, Jill Stein.

All of them. But can I just ask just, like, about the nature of the Democratic Party. It's, I don't vote Democrat because I don't agree with them on most things. Well, now I don't agree with them on anything. But really, I don't vote Democrat because I don't understand,'t understand the requirements for membership.

You've got a couple of brothers, parents, wife, child. I know your family. Very close family. If somebody said, in order to remain a conservative or a Republican or a radio show host in good standing, you have to denounce your brother Fred. Not a chance. I think you'd die your brother, Fred. Not a chance. Like, I think you'd die before you did that. Not a chance in the world. Right, that's right.

Not a chance. If they told me to reject the tenets of my faith, I wouldn't. If they told me to attack my family, I wouldn't. Under any circumstances. No, in fact, that courtesy, that obligation extends to the people I care about who aren't my family members.

Me too, me too. So that's like- So personal loyalty is more important to you. Love is more important to you than any human-made structure, correct? The 100%. Right. A hundred percent. But that's not true for partisan Democrats.

It's not true in the Biden family. Just look at what they did with Joe. I know. There's no circumstance where I let my senile grandfather run the country. Yes. Nevertheless, drive a car. I know. You take away his license and you figure out how to take care of him.

How many people do you know where as they had relative advance to really late stage of losing their faculties, they had to take their guns away or take their license away? That's right. It's a super difficult conversation, but it's one that's done out of immense love. It's really hard. And that's not what happened here. Instead, we all got stuck with the liabilities, the country that is. And I do think that obviously, crystal clear, as you've said for so long, and I've been saying a long time, there's a lot of string pulling going on with Biden. You're supposed to comfort yourself with this notion that somebody else is actually running the show. Don't worry, the senile guy's not. But I actually think the most dangerous answer is that he is in charge of some things.

And I think some of the chaos we've seen is the result of that. I think Afghanistan in a big way was probably as a result of his senility. The fact that we lost all those people, 13, and then he gets there to that dignified transfer of remains, which should be a dignified transfer of remains in Delaware, and doesn't for a moment give them the decency that they deserve in light of his decisions. Talks about himself and his own son who died in Iraq in a firefight. Yeah, ignores them, stares at his watch. It's some of the most offensive things that any of us have ever seen. Well, he did something that I saw personally up close several years ago before he ran that I thought was one of the lowest things I've ever seen.

He had this daughter-in-law, his son, Hunter's wife, who I thought was a great person. I thought she was a great person. And he winds up having an affair with his sister-in-law. And obviously this is devastating to his wife and three children, but these things, whatever, I'm trying to judge, but it's a big deal, right? And it's a big deal in the neighborhood that we live in in DC at the time. And Joe Biden and his horrible, disgusting, ludicrous, fake doctor wife issue this statement saying, we support Hunter and his new love, you know, our deceased son's widow.

And don't even mention his daughter-in-law who has been a loyal family member for over 20 years, has traveled a lot with Joe Biden because his wife didn't want to go with him. I saw this. And Kathleen Biden's like the mother of their three grandchildren. This is not my business, someone else's family. Okay, I generally try not to judge these things. But he issues a public statement saying, we're on the new chick side. Well, what about this girl was your daughter?

I have a daughter-in-law. Like, I know that's a really intense and important relationship in a family, particularly the father and his daughter-in-law. The mother of your grandchildren? Are you joking?

Yeah. And they just ignore her like she never existed? I thought I was so offended by that. I just couldn't believe a man would do that and then they reiterated it with she'd been a loyal good daughter they did the same thing with london roberts and her daughter uh navy joan you know they they honor his daughter you know just ignoring her existence not even like like actually going out of their way to insult her existence with the

whole like stockings thing at christmas like they won't even hang her name up they refuse to acknowledge she exists and to this day i just talked to london roberts not long ago we interviewed her she she put a book out about the subject and it's kind of she still wants to kind of earn her way into their world i think um that's the impression i got and i i don't think she should bother with that at all because like they've been pretty clear about what they think of her and the family. How could you do that? How could you do that? William F. Buckley did that to his son, had an illegitimate child, his grandson.

And William F. Buckley, in his will, said, I'm not, you know, no money for him. If I'm remembering this correctly, and I'm sorry, I know everyone reveres William F. Buckley, but I just, I lost all respect. I have no respect for that at all. If you, your child or grandchild, like that's William F. Buckley, but I just, I lost all respect. I have no respect for that at all. If you, your child or grandchild, like that's really important. The grandchild's innocent. Well, I totally agree. And your blood.

Yeah, I know. Sorry, I don't get so sidetracked, but like, I think Joe Biden is actually a really rotten person, I guess is what I'm saying. I hate to say that. And I think it matters. So what sort of person you are? I do. Everyone's like, oh, it doesn't matter. What matters to me?

Yeah, it does matter. And all of the like the, you know, and Trump is a complicated person, of course, and he's got he has moral failings, no question. But the lies that we're constantly told about his moral failings are like absurd. Like the idea that he's like trying to personally profit off of the presidency. Like all of that he's like trying to personally profit off of the presidency. Like all of the available evidence like demonstrates the complete opposite. Like he's lost billions of dollars in net worth by doing it.

It's endless hassle, endless litigation, endless like, like what deal has existed that has enriched him as a result of having been in the presidency? Well, he's gotten a lot poorer

for sure. It does feel to me like he's going to go to jail if he doesn't win. They're going to put him in jail. They're very desperate for that. Are they going to put him in jail before? I keep hearing, people keep sending me this stuff. That sentencing date is mid-September. That's correct, the 18th, I think.

And they really want to. This will come down to, I think, a political assessment because they don't want to martyr him ahead of it. I I this will come down to I think a political assessment because they don't want to martyr him ahead of it so the so

putting a man in jail two months you know eight weeks before a presidential election no that's right on fake charges that's right

but that judge remember he kept threatening him with all these gag orders and saying oh you violated it violated but he never quite put him in jail

even though he was constantly hanging that threat out there I think it's because they became aware during the trial that this was backfiring politically. So it wasn't just Biden self-immolating. It was that the public started becoming convinced that Trump really is a victim of a rigged system. And that was showing up in the polls throughout that process. And so they have to be cognizant of this. Now, I won't put it past them to do something tyrannical that's against their political interests because they have this they can't control themselves yeah

but it's one of the factors it's so unfortunate that that's it that's what it's all about it's hard to believe yeah i i guess this is the disadvantage as i said earlier of age it's like i refuse to believe that could even happen in the united states but if it did i think we could wind up i mean that close to the election i don't know if they'll do it but this is here's the thing that believe that could even happen in the United States. But if it did, I think we could wind up. I mean, that close to the election, I don't know if they'll do it. But here's the thing that still amazes me. July 13th, Trump was shot in the head this year, in case you were forgetting. The news cycle lasted maybe a week, maybe two on that subject, and it's evaporated. It's gone. Do you, I mean, I was,

I know how quickly news cycles move. So I, and the desire not to talk about that. I could smell it coming a thousand miles away. I knew that they would move on. Well, the Trump people didn't want to talk about it, to be honest. But. Biden's secret service allowed Trump

to get shot in the face. They allowed it, whether, you know, intentionally or not. So like, why is that not the biggest story in the world? But you would think it would be the biggest story all the way through the election. Like in, like in once again, normal America, if a presidential candidate gets shot in the head, you would think that the overflowing of sympathy and certainly all of the media attention on that subject would basically put them on a glide path to the election. That for the remainder of the election, which is not that much time left, that we'd be litigating all of this. How did this happen? How do we prevent it from happening? Why did somebody shoot Trump? The underlying motivations. Have you noticed there's no conversation about that anymore?

The motive question disappeared in five seconds. It was like the Vegas shooter. It disappeared- Well, he was just your average 20-year-old with no social media profile whatsoever. No motive at all. No one helped him do it. And, you know, there was no real security failure at all. You just couldn't put an agent on a roof with a pitch that steep. It's just, it's pretty conventional stuff. 140 yards from the stage. Yeah. But you saw the Biden administration allow an assassination attempt to shooting.

And that's just a fact. That's a fact. They allowed that. And again, I'm not saying they did it on purpose. It seems pretty clear they did. How could that not be on purpose? But I don't have any proof of that, but they allowed it. We can say that conclusively. And no one ever mentioned it again. And Republicans don't mention it. I don't understand why. One of the ways I think that they allowed it, one of the, because once you're knocking on really important doors and like, if you start opening a bunch of them, eventually you get to a place where you're like, man, this is really dark. What we just saw. It's so dark. I agree. I think one place that I've been in is that the Biden administration is ruthless in, in how they wield the government politically, as we know, with the United States Department of Justice.

And they resent the fact that Trump gets Secret Service protection at all. They hate that they have to give him, by virtue of the law as a former president, Secret Service protection. So to the extent that they give him anything, they're just like, whatever. We'll send him something. But protecting him, not a priority. Protecting Dr. Jill when she's doing an event

in Pittsburgh in an indoor arena just down the road from Trump, you know, in a really sophisticated way with all the teams necessary to protect her and going above and beyond,

100%, we'll do that. Yeah, the repulsive, fake Dr. Harpy wife gets all the bodyguards she wants, but repulsive fake Dr. Harpy wife gets all the bodyguards she wants, but the candidate doesn't. But the Secret Service director that she handpicked for the role, Kim Cheadle, because Kim Cheadle served on Jill Biden's detail when she was in the White House originally when Joe Biden was vice president. So they choose Kim Cheadle to run the show. The last thing they're going to do

is concern themselves with how safe is Trump and should we give him what he needs. Screw that guy. We'll give him the bare minimum. Meanwhile, in case you're looking for evidence that Biden and Jill and the Secret Service are political, look no further than RFK. RFK asked for Secret Service protection because he's from the most assassinated family in American political history and because there's actual threats to his life and he actually needs it in order to conduct a presidential campaign. But because they were so petty that they didn't want to dignify his campaign as real, they refused to give him Secret Service protection merely because they didn't want to give him the visual of being considered a presidential candidate. That's it. They were just like, screw that guy. So they're making all these political considerations. They refused to give him the visual of being considered a presidential candidate. That's it. They were just like, screw that guy. So they're making all these political considerations.

They refuse to give RFK protection. And then Trump, they barely give him, they give him the B squad and he gets shot in the head. That's one interpretation of events. Yeah. Here are a couple of fat girls who don't operate a firearm. Yeah. Okay. Most of us, well, actually all of us go through our daily lives

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and we clearly do live in that country, then it's like at that point, you know, that's a life or death thing. You know, that's not the education department. That's a core function. They investigate who left cocaine at the White House, and then they destroy the evidence within weeks. And they say, the investigation's closed.

There's no chance we'll ever get to the bottom of it. They destroyed it. They didn't keep it. I mean, how much cocaine could they possibly have had? It's not like they were running out of real estate. Just keep it in the evidence room. We can keep this for a while. We'll keep the case open. We'll see if we can get some answers. They destroyed it. What does that tell you? Yeah. It tells you that maybe the agencies that can never be corrupted no matter what, that have to remain as pure as any government agency can remain pure, have been totally. That would include, I'm sorry to say it in your presence, I know you're a product of a military family, but DOD, FBI, and Secret Service, and of course CIA and DIA. And they're working really hard to do it to the Supreme Court right now. Oh, I know.

They're working very hard to corrupt that institution because it's not serving their power interests, at least not to the extent that they want it to. And so that needs to be corrupted too. It's a virus and it just keeps on spreading. It just keeps spreading. And now they're using Kamala as the vehicle for all of this. And she is so dumb

she's shockingly dumb is she? you can tell, can't you tell? well she seems well she's dumb in a she's socially dumb, she doesn't know how to communicate with people, like human beings are alien to her

and she really doesn't have time for them and she tries to figure out a way to condescend to communicate with people. Yes. Like human beings are alien to her. Yes. And she really doesn't have time for them. And she tries to figure out a way to condescend to them. And then she just ends up speaking in circles. Yes. Because she doesn't actually know how to communicate. Well, she kissed her husband with a mask on. Yeah. And, you know, as a married person, I looked at that and I was like, there's kind of no

explaining that. You know, that is sort of the end of any potential respect I had for you. Kiss your husband with a mask on? Tim Walls shakes his wife's hand on stage? Well, Tim Walls. I mean, you know, yeah. Come on now. Walls out for Kamala. No. Yeah.

I mean, Tim Walls. I'm sorry. That, that, it's so funny to live in a society where you have to deny obvious things. I look at Tim Walls and I'm sorry. It's so funny to live in a society where you have to deny obvious things. I look at Tim Walz, I'm like, oh, I know exactly who you are. Like instantly, like instantly.

I went to boarding school. I know who Tim Walz is, big time. And I mean, I actually don't, I know I have zero actual evidence, but having spent four years in a New England boarding school in the 80s, like I... You know his type.

Are you kidding? Oh, yes. Oh, I had a couple of doormasters like Tim Walls for sure. Well, he did start... Show up in your room late night drunk to talk about stuff. Yeah.

You know, he's like, he's absurd. He's a cartoon character. He is. A tyrannical cartoon character. I, well, of course. So like he did start the gay club at his high school i'm very aware of that you know what was the gay straight alliance yeah totally normal he was the um you know he was just he was just sick of

bullying you know he just couldn't he couldn't handle the bullying vince yeah he was just pretty sure it's just so funny for a guy who shot his own residents with paintballs for standing on their porsche uh-huh and that's who's, who established a snitch line. Uh-huh. During COVID for noncompliance with. It's all of a, it's all of a piece. I would say it's all very consistent with what,

I mean, I remember, oh, I could tell you stories. It was, you know, whatever. I can't even get into this.

But the bottom line is, I look at Tim Walls and I'm like, I know exactly, you could have been a, you could have been the dorm master on my hall in 1984 you know getting all the boys to let's go boxing sunday morning here's a here's our special athletic supporter that you know you have to wear um but he's a very deceptive human being oh like everything about him is does anyone else notice this about tim wallace i I mean, is this-

Again, I shouldn't, well, I'm probably way over my skis. I have zero evidence other than just what seems clear. Like I, some of the best advice I ever got, which has turned out to be true all these decades later

from a really wise person, is like, trust your instincts on people. Like- Okay. I mean, he allowed American cities to burn to the ground. I think you can mock him a little bit.

I think that's allowed for being phony. I know, you just hate to say things that you can't. I'm doing heavy implication here, but there's something wrong with the guy. I guess that's just really obvious. Does it matter? He's the running mate. He's the beta.

He's in the bitch seat. Does it actually matter politically? Probably not. Maybe. But I just don't want somebody working out their issues while trying to take charge of the country. The whole thing, these people are all freaks. There's not like one person who has a normal, happy, personal life. And by the way, there are very few on the Republican side. J.D. Vance is one of them,

which is one of the reasons I was so enthusiastic. He's a pretty normal guy, actually. But I think it really matters. If you don't go home to some normal relationship that's based on love and respect and honesty, if you're kissing your husband with a mask on or shaking hands with your wife, you're a freak. And I feel sorry for you, but no, you can't have power. No power for you, freak. That's how I feel. This weekend, they put Kamala in some like, like small test unscripted moments.

Yeah. Let's see what she can do with this, you know. And it all went disastrously. But one of them was that she was in Pennsylvania. She stopped at a Sheetz gas station. Now, when I think Sheetz,

I think it's basically, you know, like a Wawa. Like, it's a touchscreen sandwich shop. You know, you go and you enter your order and then the sandwich will show up a few minutes later. Somebody makes it for you. I thought it was a gas station. Yeah, it's a Wawa. It's a touchscreen sandwich shop. You go and you enter your order, and then the sandwich will show up a few minutes later.

Somebody makes it for you. I thought it was a gas station. Yeah, it's a gas station. But fundamentally, on the inside, if you're going to visit the indoors of it, you'll get your sandwich there on the touchscreen. Yeah. Anyone who lives near a Sheetz knows that that's what it's worth. That's what you do. Kamala Harris goes into the Sheetz gas station.

She brings her husband, and she brings tim walls phony tim walls and they go in together and what does she shop for a bag of doritos she's like she walks in they're like what are you getting what are you getting and she's like doritos she says and she walks around like she has no idea where the chips are she's like staring all around the store she has no idea and her husband grabs it and she goes oh dougie and she reaches and she grabs the bag she pulls them away she's i'll take those and she rips them out of her hand rips rips the doritos out of his hands and then and then cackles and she walks off everything about it felt so completely unnatural and controlled i think it's i mean i've only been to sheets a few times but the one thing i remember

about sheets they have one of the world's, second to Bucky's, but one of the world's largest selections of chewing tobacco. Every kind of dip, like ever, including like some you've never, you know, pomegranate flavored or whatever. I always buy a 10 or two there. I don't know how you could pass by

the extensive snuff selection to buy Doritos. Like that itself is disqualifying. Yeah, and they're not even Cool Ranch. Like selection to buy Doritos. Like that itself is disqualifying. Yeah. And they're not even Cool Ranch. Like they were regular Doritos. Like if I've, I'm not a Doritos person, but I know Doritos aficionados. Yeah. They're all Cool Ranch people. Are they? I totally believe that. Like the regular Doritos, like what a poser. And she has no idea what she's doing. And by the way, you're making me think, I want to see her in Buc-ee's. I want to see the Kamala Harris Buc-ee's fusion experience. I'd love to.

I doubt there are many people in Buc-ee's. Buc-ee's is a truck stop in Texas. I think it's moved to Florida now. It's all over the place now. Right. And they have more gas station bays than any other conventional gas station. And the cleanest bathrooms, most famously, a candy selection. I was in there late night.

You can buy artwork in the bathrooms. For real? Yeah. The walls leading into all the bathrooms, they have artwork on the wall with prices. So when you're in the bathroom, you can choose art and buy it off the wall. Wow.

It's pretty cool. Yeah. It's a cool place. They make beef jerky and all the fudge you could possibly eat and all the barbecue you could possibly have. Tell me about it. I was in a Buc-ee's. We were doing a book tour in like 2018, maybe. And I was on the road. Emily Lynn is sitting right there. And I had the driver pull over into Buc-ee's like three in the morning. We're driving from like Dallas to Houston. And no one had been

to Buc-ee's. And I was like, Buc-ee's is the greatest because I always buy all the weird chewing tobacco there. So we're wandering through Bucky's and I get to the candy area. I love candy. Yeah. And they have like old fashioned candy. They've got like walls. I was going, and they had like a thing,

like malted milk balls, you know, it was like $4 for four pounds. And I'm getting this thing and Emily comes up and takes my arm and she's like, I think that's enough. I think it's enough. It's like, thank God you're here. That's true.

You do need a woman nearby. You do, you do. You totally do. You impose restraint upon you. You totally do. My wife was kind of rushing me out. I'm like, but wait. There's like, and you can buy like housewares there. Oh, I know, 100%.

So, and then I would get distracted. Mesquite, barbecue, charcoal. I mean, it's just- And I had my dog in the car with me. We were traveling and we just, this past week or so. And we were going to, you know, when you have a dog in the car, you put a water bowl usually like outside the vehicle, like on the ground and let the dog drink. And I didn't need to because Bucky's had a water fountain for dogs. Like they had a regular water fountain and right on the ground, they had a little unit for dogs.

So, you could just get the water fountain going and the dog can drink right from there so that's that okay bucky's is the kind of capitalism we were promised yeah and black rock is the kind that we got right and i feel let's get let's get more bucky's less black rock yeah right yeah someplace that you enjoy going that doesn't sap your soul when you're there. That is interested in what you want, is trying to serve you in some way. Yeah. You know, is not like buying every house on your street

and turning them into rentals. Right. Or like really wrecking your life. Well, they have a Chick-fil-A style enthusiasm. Yes. So when you walk in, they say hello, and they like... But wasn't that the whole point of market capitalism?

It was going to serve what people wanted. It was going to respond to the needs and desires of the population. Yeah. Not redefine them. And actually what you, you don't want grandchildren. You want a trans kid. Yeah. Like, I don't know how we got there.

You don't, no, you don't, you don't want that, Vince. What you want is density in your neighborhood you want public housing on your street you want that and if you don't want that you're a racist right right like that's actually what we got yeah yeah we got gay race communism but it was supposed to be buckies with like super clean bathrooms and dog water fountains and like massive malted milk ball supplies and like every kind of dip. Not just, you know, Skoll and Copenhagen, but like getting into the serious esoteric chewing tobaccos. That's right.

A chewing tobacco for every man. Yeah. With no lecturing about it either. No, not at all. Yeah. I'd like the kiwi fruit. Okay. Coming right up, sir. That's awesome. That is not at all. Yeah. I'd like the kiwi fruit. Yeah. Okay. Coming right up, sir. That's awesome. That is awesome. And no judgment. I mean, yeah, it's, I don't know. I

mean, you talk about this a lot, but I just spent the last almost two weeks driving through most of East Coast America. I was all the way up from Maine to Florida, back and forth. Did you really? Yeah. What did you think? I felt sadness for a lot of what I saw. Well, actually, I love the country. I found so much of it to be beautiful. And you grew up, your dad was a Marine Corps officer. I grew up on most of it. You grew up everywhere. Yeah, most of the East Coast.

Hawaii was our one detour away from that. But almost the East Coast my entire life. And the country is beautiful i love driving through it i love seeing how much you know so much land there's so much to drive through and um really neat and and cool people uh but then like you see so many communities where things are like completely falling apart completely and What were the signs of that? Like all of the elements get through your home. You know, the roofs are falling apart. You know, the water clearly must pour in

every time it rains. Seriously? Yeah. And- Oh, so it's not just you like saw junkies at a gas station. It's like you saw people with holes in their roofs. Yeah, yeah. All over the place. Like actual poverty. If there's a you saw people with holes in their roofs. Yeah. Yeah. All over the place. Like actual poverty. If there's a hole in your roof, you're impoverished.

I think we can say that. If your house is leaning over, you know, you've got some, you got a real issue. Like you live in a death trap. So yeah, there's a lot of that out there. And should you, if you, and I saw, by the way, in a lot of those yards, I saw Trump flags as a political measure. So we're paying for the pensions that were guaranteed retirement of bureaucrats in the Ukraine who work for the corrupt government of Ukraine run by the anti-American,

anti-Christian Zelensky. We're paying their retirement. We're paying the civil servants of Ukraine. The whole government. Everybody. We're paying for businesses in're paying the civil servants of ukraine the whole government yeah everybody but we're paying for businesses in ukraine to stay open really yeah i'm almost i i gotta go back to my notes but i had a um i had a piece a while ago about this and i keep notes every day for my radio show and i remember i shared this on the air that we were paying i think subsidies to keep small businesses open in uk. So yeah, we're paying for everything.

So grotesque. It's hard to metabolize it. But you drove through our own country in the last two weeks and you see people who don't have patched roofs. Yeah. Yeah. And so the country's not doing well is an understatement. And there's lots of people who are suffering. And that's why we kind of glanced off of the economic discussion earlier. But I really think it matters that we are at a point right now where the country is at over a trillion dollars in credit card debt. This is a record. And we've never had this much credit card debt in our nation's history. And credit card debt is totally destructive. You're looking at 16, 18, 20, 22, 25% rates. Yeah, close to 30 at the top.

Yeah, on these. And that means people are being destroyed, and they can't make ends meet. The unemployment numbers are all a scam. Can I just ask, we used to put people in prison back when the mafia was offering loans at lower interest rates than those. Yeah, usury. Yeah, usury.

Yeah, usury and loan sharking, we called it. Yeah. And all these sort of nice Italian guys wound up in jail. Yeah. But it's cool when the credit card companies do that. How does that work? Joe Biden. Yeah, you're right.

Joe Biden, the senator from Delaware making that happen. Yeah. That's how that works. But people are in massive, massive debt and the unemployment numbers are a scam because really what they represent is that there are people working multiple part-time jobs to make ends meet. That's what that means. So all this stuff about like, oh, unemployment is slow. No, it's not. People are working multiple jobs in order to pay for just how expensive their lives have been. And all the employment gains have been among immigrants, all of them. Yep.

I mean, net, zero gains among native-born Americans. Yeah, native-born Americans losing jobs. Yep. Immigrants, foreign-born workers gaining all. So it's, you know, and my cousin E.J. Antoni is, I think, the single best economist on this subject. Yes. And he's just been amazing on it, and he's not, all of the available evidence demonstrates he's right. And no American needs a government report to tell them that they're miserable, by the way. A lot of the media sort

of waits for unemployment reports to tell, like Don Lemon, like telling you, you shouldn't be miserable. No, the data says that you're not miserable. You're fine. Like what? Those, all of that government stuff is one, cooked, and two, a trailing indicator of what's actually happening. But a drive from, where did you go? Like you went from where to where in the United States? I was, so I was in, from Greenville, Maine, was as far north as I was. Great place.

All the way to Southwest Florida. Wow. Yeah. And so I got to see a bunch of places. I was in, that was in the Atlanta area. I went to Jacksonville. And you drove that whole way. I flew some of it at the beginning.

And then I drove most of it. I drove, in order to get to Maine, I flew into Boston. I drove the four and a half hours, whatever it is, to Greenville. I was in Atlanta. I was driving in the Atlanta suburbs. I went to Southwest Florida, drove all the way up past Tampa, went to Jacksonville, Florida, drove from there, went to coastal North Carolina, drove from there back to Washington, D's disturbing how much of it is in disrepair. And like, you just think to yourself, there's a part of you that's like, I don't know what you could possibly do to get things back on track.

I was, I don't fly very much at all. I try not to travel at all. But I've taken a couple of flights recently, commercial flights, and I'm shocked by the airports. And I'm shocked by how disorganized they are, the TSA screening. I don't remember it being that bad. I've taken about four years off from really flying that much.

And then I thought to myself, wow, I didn't know how degrading and stupid this was. I'd forgotten how degrading and stupid it was. And then I thought, you know, the people making decisions about the way this country is run, like they don't have any contact with us. There's no donor to either party who flies commercial. Nobody flies commercial with money in this country. It's crazy. I grew up in a rich area, in a world of rich people. Everyone flew commercial.

Nobody had a plane. Yeah. Nobody. Now everybody flies private. It's crazy. And one of the effects of that is people who are making these decisions who are paying for these politicians,

they just don't know. They don't see it at all. And they definitely don't drive, you know, from Tampa to coastal North Carolina and then D.C. They just don't. Yeah. Do't see it at all. And they definitely don't drive, you know, from Tampa to coastal North Carolina and then DC. They just don't. Yeah. Do you think that has some effect? That has a huge bearing. I mean, look, TSA conditions the rest of us to be compliant. I mean, that's like, so if that's not your experience, you kind of feel- What is the facial that you stare into a camera? This happened to me yesterday. I had to fly

yesterday or two days ago and they're like will you look into there i was like no thank you yeah but you don't have to like what is that i'm sorry i know i'm showing how out of touch i am i just don't travel very much security theater and like you know what is first of all what is the id checker assessing what are they doing like a compelling background check on you or something that you know what's your history of terrorism i mean the whole thing is really stupid and degrading and super annoying. Like, why am I standing in line to get on a flight? It was all 9-11. George W. Bush created all of this right after 9-11, and we had to because there was an imminent threat, and we were under attack by terrorists.

And then you fast forward 23 years later, and the Taliban still run Afghanistan. They're way better armed with our money and their infrastructure is much better because we built it and they're still in charge. And we're left in this decaying country with fewer civil liberties having to be humiliated at the freaking airport. Like, why shouldn't we see all the 9-11 documents? Like, why, you know, if anything justifies another January 6th, which is to say people just, like, moving up

to the Capitol and demanding something, why wouldn't it be seeing those documents? Yeah. That event changed this country profoundly and forever.

Yes. We're its citizens. We pay for it. It's being done in our name. And we can't know what exactly happened because why? And it's changed

in really stupid, tyrannical, and unofficial ways. But predictable ways. So like TSA doesn't catch anything, right? So they do their annual screenings where they like practice, like, will you catch the weapons

that we put through? They put actual weapons through the x-ray machines and the TSA agents don't catch them. Their fail rate is astronomical. Really? Yeah. So they're not actually even catching

the things that they're tested on. And we're all subjected to do this as if it's keeping us safe, which of course it isn't. Why are we doing this? Like I would settle for, if you want to make one modification, locks on the cockpit door. Totally fine. I'm good with that. Beyond that, why are we doing the rest of this? I'm willing to take the risk.

I am. I'd rather live in that world. It's a happier world. It's more spiritually compelling. And it demonstrates, you know, like a cohesive society, you don't need that. And in fact, the more they make the society more chaotic, the more they justify all of this, you know, the more that they import incompatible cultures and, you know, make everyone live in squalor. Like eventually they're increasing social distrust so much that they're offering a incompatible cultures and, you know, make everyone live in squalor. Like, eventually,

they're increasing social distrust so much that they're offering a justification for the system that they built. That's right. It's a self-licking ice cream cone. Yeah. What happens at the Democratic National Convention this week? Well, I think it's going to be a big demonstration. If you're clear thinking about this, if you stare at it and you're just like objective, what you're going to witness is chaos. You're witnessing, first of all, why are they doing it in Chicago? And like, what world do you appeal to the broad American middle by having a Democrat convention in Chicago, Illinois? Because none of us can ever, during the course of our lifetimes,

escape the year 1968. Everything is in reference to that year. Yeah. And so, I just, why not? I mean, they should have another march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge, too. I mean, everything is like, everything is a replay of that period. It's weird. Yeah. And so, now Kamala Harris is the nominee, amazingly. By the way, this. And so now Kamala Harris is the nominee. Amazingly. By the way, this whole convention's fake because she was made the nominee weeks ago

in secret in an online vote. So this whole thing is like a scam. Everything about it is a facade. Even the votes are fake because the votes

were taken weeks ago. Yes. All to foreclose on the obvious chaos that's going to happen anyway. We're already seeing it. That's right. I mean, like, and this is, you know, God, I want Republicans to be so much better than they are.

But insofar as they exist now, the way they do, Milwaukee was like placid. Yeah. It was peaceful. It was orderly. Yeah. It was compelling. It was great, actually. Great speakers.

I mean, you were there. You saw it. You had better billing than Joe Biden does. I didn't think that, I wasn't planning to go, actually. Great speakers. I mean, you were there. You saw it. You had better billing than Joe Biden does. I didn't think that... I wasn't planning to go, actually, at all. I didn't want to go. I've been to every convention since 96. I didn't want to go to any more conventions. They asked me to speak. I wasn't going to do it. Then I was like, I should do that and make myself do it. I loved it. I had like the best time ever. Yeah. Why? Because I like the vibe. I like the people. I mean, obviously, I've been

around it my whole life, so I saw, you know, everyone I've ever met was there. But also, I just, I thought it was a happy, happy, happy time. And I think it really, Trump survived getting shot in the face. And that That's motivating. Yeah.

I mean, that just changed everything. I know it feels like that was 40 years ago, but it was last month that that happened. It was it was just it was happy. Anyway, it was a great time, I thought. So they always tell you it's the most important election of your lifetime. But of course, this one actually is. That's demonst demonstrable and it's also because it is so important being censored at every level by the tech companies so we were thinking about this a couple of months ago and we thought why not get on the road live in front of actual people live audiences coast to coast a nationwide tour where we can't be censored that'd be good it would also

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Yep. And my views about him became less complex. I agree. Did you have the same sense? Like, in other words, like, I always try and maintain some objective distance. Like, I don't like about this guy. I wish he would do this differently. I wish he didn't do that.

I wish he hired better people. Whatever criticism you want to level against him. And by the way, you should. It's your right as an American't do that. I wish you hired better people, whatever, whatever criticism you want to level against him. And, and by the way, you should, it's your right as an American to do that because the end goal should be to make him better. And Trump is the rare politician who actually does listen to people no matter their station in life, no matter where they come from. He's actually interested in what you think. So that's a good sign. He'll, he'll actually change when given advice. But my views about him became less complex after that. I was like, I really like this guy legitimately. I agree. Because what he displayed was unusual and aspirational. Did you feel like that? I felt that way really strongly. I hate complaining.

I don't think men should complain. I really mean that. It's one of my core beliefs. It's how I was raised. And I will never shake that belief, that conviction that, you know, stop complaining. Like, what did you think this was? And I will never not admire physical courage. I just admire that. And I want to have it myself. I don't know if I do. I haven't been tested very often in my life, but I would like to think that if I was ever shot in the way that Trump was, that I would behave as manfully as he did. I don't know that I

would. You can't know, but he did. He was tested in a way that was very meaningful to me, leaving aside the politics, but like all of a sudden you're talking and bang, you get hit with something. It's clearly a bullet. You don't know if you're dead or not. Yes. And then you stand up and... Yeah. I just, that's the acid test for me because it really matters what you're like as a person. It matters to me.

I'm not a Democrat. I don't care about your stupid party. And it's the point of the exercise is not to huddle together for increased power because I don't feel powerless as a person. I have a family. I don't need a party to make me feel whole, unlike liberals. And so what really matters to me is what you're like, and do you have virtue? And Trump is a mixed bag on that question, but part of virtue is bravery. It's a big part of virtue, actually. It turns out much bigger than I understood as a younger man. And he's brave, like actually brave, not fake brave. Oh, he's so brave. Oh, they're so courageous. Kamala is so courageous. She's a coward. She's terrified. She's clearly terrified.

Yeah. And he's not. And that like, okay, I'm voting for the guy who's brave over a coward. She's terrified. She's clearly terrified. Yeah. And he's not. And that, like, okay, I'm voting for the guy who's brave over the coward. Yeah. And on Trump being a mixed bag in terms of like virtue and things, I always remember. Let me just say, I'm a mixed bag on virtue. We all are. Right. So I thought, okay.

In fact, that's a Christian admission. Well, it's a true admission. Here's the thing. I always think about my dad, who you mentioned is a Marine Corps officer. Well, it's a true admission. And my dad was once complaining to him about various chaplains in the military and how some of them are not so impressive and he wishes they were better and more Christian and have more virtue and that kind of thing. And he said, Vinny, I think they were the same rank. He said, Vinny, remember, Jesus chose 12 sinners to follow him. That's right. 12 sinners. And he was right about that. And i always keep that in mind it's like

before i like start judging other people for their moral feelings i agree like like the people who were tasked with advancing the greatest message humanity's ever known were failed were had immense failings paul paul murdered christians yes and uh- Peter was a coward. Yeah. I mean, it's just- Denied Jesus three times as predicted because he was too afraid. Yeah. I agree completely. The most important apostle.

So they just, you know, God chooses unusual vehicles. I think that's right. In a time where, you know, reality itself is hard to identify or even define, you know, in a digital world, in an AI world, it's hard to know what is real. Everyone is struggling with this. One thing that is absolutely real is that when you're shot in the face unexpectedly, we can see something deep about who you are and we saw trump live on camera we saw something about him that was just remarkable was absolutely remarkable it was animal it was like in a good way it was it was just like he just it was great it was totally great and i must say i talked to him that night and um the night he was shot that saturday night maybe yeah i think and uh i was in maine but I talked to him and he

didn't, I mean, he didn't mention anything about himself. That's just a fact. I mean, look, I'm not flacking for Trump. This is just a fact. It was like, did you see the crowd? They were so brave. They didn't run. That's the first thing he said. I was like, wow. Yeah. They also, they also saved his life because the people who were outside the perimeter who began shouting up about Thomas Crooks being on the roof, the Trump supporters, they were the only ones who were raising the loud alarm about what was happening. And they were the predicate to that cop getting his head over the roof and scaring Thomas Crooks into taking action at that moment. It's so perfect, though. It's like only the Trump voters are willing to notice the obvious.

Yes. They haven't been trained to deny what their senses perceive. No. In fact, their senses are— Like, wait, there's a guy on the roof with a gun. What? In fact, their senses are elevated to the peril. Yeah.

No, that's right. And they can smell it. And so it's not just some looky-loo who's up on the roof just trying to see what's going on on the stage. They're worried about Trump's safety. And they're yelling out, he's on the roof. He's on the roof, officer. They're screaming.

They saved Trump's life. Every element of that, I know we keep returning to this, but it's such an amazing moment in history. It is amazing. Every element of it conspired to save him. Every element of it, from the people shouting, the cop getting his head above the roof, the frenzied rush to take the shot by Thomas Crooks as a result,

Trump's head turned towards a chart, saying moments before, take me off teleprompter, I don't even care, I'm going to do the chart. And just all of those things, they conspired in a way that can only be divine, that can only be the product of divine intervention. And I saw that, and it's one, so I had simpler views about Trump after that,

and I had more grateful views about God after that. I agree with both those things. And his, you know, I would, I talk about myself way too much as it is, but I try not to, because I think it's such an unattractive, the most unattractive quality in a man. But I think if I was shot like he was shot, I'd be like talking about myself.

Like, oh, I can't believe I got shot. And Trump, who's like famously, everyone's like, Trump's such a narcissist. He didn't, well, at least when I talked to him, he didn't mention himself. It was only about the audience. Yeah, wow. And there's no one else listening to this conversation. Well, other than obviously NSA's listening to it. Besides them, yeah. about the audience. Yeah, wow. And there's no one else listening to this conversation. Well, other than obviously NSA's listening to it. Besides them, yeah.

Yeah, besides the criminals. But anyway, but he's not doing it for an audience, just me. No expectation, I'll repeat it. You know what I mean? And he didn't mention himself. It's only about the other people. And I thought, man, I just thought it was so revealing. It was in a way that's not fakeable.

You know, AI didn't do that. Yeah, it's cool. And then you talked about that at the convention. I did. it was so revealing. It was in a way that's not fakeable. You know, AI didn't do that. Yeah, it's cool. And then you talked about that at the convention. I did. Which was cool. Yeah, I believe that was the substance of your remarks talking about what he was like. Oh. I ad-libbed that speech, so I actually have no memory.

You don't have any memory? So I guess it renders moot the following question. I wonder, is there any point, do you ever give a speech where you feel the gravity of it? Or are you at the point where you're so used to giving speeches that even speaking on the Republican convention stage with every network in the United States concentrated on your remarks, none of that? Oh, I felt the gravity of it. Well, in the sense that they told me to write a speech. I mean, I'm a writer. I can, I've certainly written a lot.

But I don't write, speech is the one thing I, I just don't write speeches. I never mean, I'm a writer. I can, I've certainly written a lot, but I don't write with speeches. The one thing I just don't write speeches. I never have one time in my life, but I felt like, well, I want to be the obedient little bitch or whatever. I want to do what I'm told, I guess.

I don't know. I knew you weren't going to write it. I knew it. I actually, I knew it. In fact, I told, as soon as I heard that you were given an address,

I said, he's not going to write it. He's just going to do it. Well, I, I made a good faith effort and I, um, there was no sauna at my hotel. So I told, as soon as I heard that you were given an address, I said, he's not going to write it. He's just going to do it. Well, I, I made a good faith effort and I, um, there was no sauna at my hotel. So I said, I can't write obviously without my sauna, but I did actually spend like eight hours fretting about it and trying to write it on my iPhone. And then I was like, I can't write a

speech for myself. I could write a speech for someone else, but I got to say, whatever, I'm not going to. So I didn't, I guess I know you, I know you're a good writer, obviously, like your whole career has been writing. Even when you were on television, it would, I would laugh at people and be like, I wish Tucker would come back to writing. I'm like, I don't think you're familiar with what he's doing on a daily basis, literally writing all the time. I just knew that you wouldn't do it because it's just, I don't know, maybe it's your ego. Like you're going to give this speech off teleprompter and you're just going to say what's on your mind. And I knew kind of reflexively, there's no,

this is the one venue. It's just, honestly, I kind of thought like, you're just like, no, screw you. I'm not doing a speech. I'm not writing a speech. Well, ultimately I said that in a much more polite way to all the staff at the, you know, the really nice people who are, you know, doing

the run through and whatever. And I was like, I just can't do this. No, I don't like to write speeches because then you don't learn anything. There's something about speaking in conversation or I don't, I really believe that words have, um, you know, loose state where spoken words have um have like spiritual power in the beginning was the word and the word was with god and the word was god like what does that even mean i'm not sure what it means i mean the word i guess is jesus but yeah that's beginning of john um but there's something about we tell the truth we don't just know the truth or believe the truth we tell the truth there's something about using the one thing that we have that the rest of the animal kingdom doesn't have, which is the power of speech that makes

things real and that gives them power. Anyway, I find that when I talk, or I think everyone finds this if you think about it, that saying something out loud allows you to understand things. Like you learn. In in other words we think of language as something that we use to inform or educate others i'm going to tell you something i do it for a living i hear my views but what we miss is that we're being educated too like we're learning the speaker is learning as he speaks well do you ever experience this words have immense power um for sure words are so for the reasons you just laid out

but they change the speaker not just the listener and they yeah and especially like you know when you repeat something

over and over it establishes a groove in your mind so that you kind of can draw upon it to use it again so speaking is very helpful in that way

um you know repetition is a good way to learn anything but if you're deprived of the tools, it's disorienting. And it leaves you- What does that mean? Meaning, like, the left's current program, which has been a program for a while that many of us

were late to detect- Shut up, racist. Was to change language in such a way. Yeah. Shut up, racist is a perfect example. To change language in such a way that you can't even think clearly about what's going on. That reality is so distorted by your lack of vocabulary or by your distorted vocabulary that you're incapable of resolving the problem. You can smell that there's a problem, but you don't actually know how to navigate out of it. This is like gender affirming care is a perfect example of that. Gender affirming. First of all, it's already a lie because it's establishing that your body is a mistake and that what is correct is for you to mutilate it.

Like, it's like, what? We're just affirming something that preexisted in this decision. And you scare people into compliance and then they begin to lose the vocabulary necessary to untangle it, right? Orwell wrote about this at length. Yes, totally.

And he was the best at writing about it. And that's why it matters so much because it's mind control. Yes. Words are mind control. 100%. And the ability to speak to an audience and then to, first of all, learn for yourself, but also to detect what they're actually picking up. Yes. Is a skill that you have for sure, and it's made you successful. It's a skill that Kamala Harris does not have. That's the skill she doesn't have. She doesn't have that skill. She can't do it.

She can't talk to an audience and see that they're receiving her. She doesn't know what they're receiving. She can't read their body language. She doesn't know how to change her tone. Have you ever noticed she tells these jokes, nobody laughs, and then she cackles to herself? Yes. It's because she isn't able to connect on a human level because she's not all that interested in what they're saying through their expressions,

through their reactions. Well, she's certainly missing out on one of life's greatest and richest experiences, which is to feel the vibe of other people. I mean, that's kind of the only reason to be alive, really. And it's like the most beautiful, great, fun thing ever. And speaking in public

is the easiest thing you could ever do. You just can't worry about it. And as long as you don't worry about it, like everyone would be great at it, actually, including Kamala Harris. And when I don't know her, I've never even met her. I have relatives who know her actually.

You know, whenever they see she's kind of amusing, they don't hate her. Yeah. But she's obviously terrified. She's obviously afraid. I look at her, I'm like,

Ooh, you're afraid. She's scared to death. She's scared to death. That's the first thing I register when I see her. Yeah. That woman is afraid because she knows that she's fraudulent and-

Like a caged animal that will hurt someone. She's, she's- Well, she's a fascist. Yeah. That woman is afraid because she knows that she's fraudulent. Like a caged animal that will hurt someone. Well, she's a fascist, no doubt. No one ever mentions that. Like she's, Biden just had, you know, 50 years of life in Washington, kind of the precedent of how things are done in a restrained republic

kind of seeped into him. She's coming from a different world. She's coming from California, which is post-political. It's a one-party state and she has no problem using force at all. And all the fascists around her are the same. So no, but I just feel, I do feel sorry for Kamala Harris. Again, I don't know where I'm just making these judgments on the basis of watching her, but I feel like this is someone who can't admit who she really is, what she really thinks, and is really, really afraid.

And you feel sorry for people like that. Yes, which is why I loved Trump at the National Association for Black Journalists. When he went- I don't think you're allowed to love that. Oh, I loved it. I was supposed to disapprove. I adored it.

And here's why. Tell me. So think about the weeks leading up to that. The weeks leading up to it put the Trump campaign on its heels because one, the narrative was so disrupted by the fact that they just replaced Joe with Kamala. Yeah. And then the media went

all in on selling her. It was like, she's so great. She's wonderful. It's all about joy, Vince. And then they adopted this line of attack that J.D. Vance and Donald Trump are weird. Remember this? Very well. Yeah.D. Vance and Donald Trump are weird. Remember this? Very well. Okay.

So they were like, weird. Now, I love laughing that off because of how absurd the use of that word coming from those people is. The abortion worshipers are telling you J.D. Vance is weird. Yeah. The men in dresses crew. Like, oh, yeah, it's so weird. Okay. Here's our tranny admiral not weird but

you have to you have to be honest enough to admit it's an effective line of attack yeah insofar as it's the kind of thing that it's like the language of the teenage girl it's like it doesn't require a deep assessment of what's going on you use you use weird it's a way to make somebody toxic in And it's effective. It's an effective weapon. So there's going to be a category of voter that definitely cares a lot about the policies, and specifically the ways in which they affect them and their bottom line. But there are also broad categories of voters who really do kind of ride the vibes of an election. Who is this person? And I don't mean vote switchers. I mean mean whether or not they'll show up to the polls at all.

You know? And so, okay, weird's one line of attack. What's the line of attack on Kamala? She's a phony. She's fraudulent. She's fake. Now, if Trump gets up on a stage

and he goes, Kamala Harris is a phony. Does CNN cover that? Does the New York Times put her on A1? Does, you know, Washington Post, any of these news outlets? No. But if Trump goes on stage, he goes, she's black? Like five minutes

ago, she was Indian. Now she's black? I don't know. I love them both, but somebody's got to answer that question. Everyone went crazy. And it was perfect. And the reason it was perfect was because it forced all of the places that hate Trump to carry his remarks. And it fed an underlying, the subtext of that entire exchange is, Kamala Harris is a phony. And it implants it right into the lifeblood

of the United States. Like people get to see it no matter where you consume it. I wish they'd done that with Obama. He, I mean, he's half white, raised by white people. He's more white than he is black. Yeah.

Culturally. And he is exactly one half white. Sure. So why did Republicans not say our half white president or half black president? Like, why do they have to be like the first black president? Just buy into the lie. It's a lie. And it gave him moral power because it, you know, made him him it gave him claim to the civil rights movement which is like the one sort of holy story in american history yeah supposedly self-alive but whatever

everyone's been taught that and he got to lay claim to that and but no one else had the balls to puncture it and just like kamala his family didn't come from wasn't oh i'm aware the whole thing was fraudulent but but just as a factual matter, as a genetic matter, I'm not attacking anybody, obviously. I'm just saying like he's half white, but no one, that was considered so outrageous. That'd be like white lives matter or all lives matter. Another demonstrably factually true phrase that became a criminal offense literally a criminal offense like the fbi investigated people for saying white lives matter yeah but and nobody pushed back and these categories don't exist for any practical sort of descriptive reason they only

exist for political power because like you know if you call elon musk an african-american like people are like they that's a total violation you're not allowed to say that despite the fact that he but i have it is or if like you know, George Carlin once cited this, like if you come from Egypt, you're technically, you're an African American. Are we allowed to say that? If you're an Egyptian, are you called somebody an African? No, not in American political discourse. But what does it mean allowed?

Why not just tell the truth? Like, why are we such cow? If you allow lies to go unchallenged, they harden and then they become, you And then they become the instruments of torture that you'll suffer under. That's a fact. So why are we playing along with this? What cowards are we? I never called Obama. I was on TV every day of the Obama administration. I never said our half white president, he's half black, which is a fact. I didn't have the balls to say that. What's wrong with me? Yeah. And you, you like how like people get mad if Trump refers to him as Barack Hussein Obama. He'll say Barack Hussein Obama, which is actually his middle name. Yeah.

And you're like, you can't, you can't. Oh, how racist is he for saying that? Why am I playing by your rules anyway? Because somebody was named Saddam Hussein. Now I can't say Barack Hussein Obama. Like, what is it It actually matters, though. If you decide that you're going to lie because someone is quote, making you, like, whose fault is that? It's yours. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a lot of that going on.

A lot. Unfortunately. So I keep interrupting you. What is going to be the theme of this convention? It starts today. I mean, it's going to be the theme of this convention? It starts today. I mean, it's going to be, I mean, you'll see the chaos on the outside, but on the inside,

you're going to be served an endless stream of lies about the current state of our country. They'll tell you that the misery that exists within it is not actually happening, that people are far happier, that things are far happier that um that things are fine also you're gonna get this weird so she's gonna run as the incumbent basically they want everything they want it both ways because they're gonna lie to you about the

current state of affairs and then they're gonna tell you what her day one agenda is as if she didn't have power to begin with right so they're doing and and the trump campaign's been great on this they said her day one was three and a half years ago. So let's stop pretending that it's starting. So that's why, I mean,

they could make her president. I mean, they could 25th Amendment Biden. I mean, they basically already have in effect, if not literally, but they could just

make her president. Probably by all rights should because she does seem non-senile, but they won't because they don't want her to have to take responsibility for the current state of the country. Is that, that's my guess.

I don't know. Yeah, or they're so wrapped up in the idea that, oh, we shouldn't give it to her this way because we give it to her with the election that's more legitimate or something. Like they shouldn't, the woman shouldn't have to be made president by virtue of the 25th amendment.

The first woman president, by just, you know, we settled on her. I don't know what their thinking is on that. Oh, are they doing the first woman thing? They're doing the first everything. Really? Yeah, of course. Oh, my goodness.

That's going to be a big theme this week. First woman? The first woman president? Yeah. Yeah. It's just crazy that, like, since we've already established that there's no definition of woman, like why should I care? Tell me why I should care.

100%. You don't, I mean, there's no such thing as a woman. So like, why is it meaningful that we have one as president? Yeah. And there's no difference between a woman and a man, none.

They can be Navy SEALs. So like, what's the significance of this? There is none anymore. I mean, they've erased, there's the attacks on this? There is none anymore. I mean, they've erased it. The attacks on women that have been led by Biden and Harris are, I think, unprecedented, actually, in American history. I mean, this is another area where it's like Republicans really should sink their teeth into this in every possible way. So stupid. But Title IX?

Yeah. title nine? The fact that the Biden administration came along and said that women are not a real category and that men can be in their locker rooms and take their sports teams and all of those things. Why isn't there like a nonstop campaign against that atrocity? There should be. Like, why do we have women's sports then? What's the point of that? Why do we have any separate category for women to participate and succeed on an equal playing field? We shouldn't under that notion. And so the Biden administration

is leading an all-out assault on the very existence of women. Right. And then, of course, wants the credit for the first woman president, should that occur. So it's incoherent, obviously. It's totally incoherent.

It's got all the markers of Marxism as it presents itself throughout history. Which is just deceptive to its core. It's shape-shifting. There are no fixed meanings to anything. It's just, I need to be in power, you need to obey. And those are the only immutable rules. Yep. Yep.

I mean, it is very much like my body, my choice. Here, take the COVID vaxxer, I'll kill you. Yes. Wait, what? I thought it was my body, my choice. No. Only the COVID vax or I'll kill you. Yes. Wait, what? I thought it was my body, my choice. No. Only when you're killing your kids, not when you're enforcing some. Yeah, it's every single, I mean, it's like.

I almost called it poison, but I would be censored by YouTube if I did that. Well. So I just want to be clear. I'm not calling any substance that was federally mandated poison. Okay, good. Thank you for that. And so, I mean, it's like guns too. They're the same way on guns that, you know, you don't need them, but we do.

They'll protect us. It's all- Is she going to get elected? Kamala Harris? Yeah. I think it's a lot closer than I want it to be. There are 30 states that are going to be filled with drop boxes? That seems like a problem. And, you know, there've been some positive advances like banning

Zuckerbucks in 27 states. Um, you just saw like states like Georgia and Texas have passed real voter integrity laws that have increased the quality of their election system. But then there are states like Pennsylvania where things are still a little too chaotic. You have these drop boxes across the country. Wisconsin, of course. These are pivotal states. But no state that has drop boxes can be considered legitimate. How can I believe an election result in a state with drop boxes? Right, yeah.

No matter what party you're a part of, if the election doesn't go your way and your state's full of drop boxes, your suspicions are going to be sky high. So how is that stabilizing for a Republican? So I had a conversation this morning, actually, with someone, a well-known, very knowledgeable person from Republican politics who said, you know, there are all these states with drop boxes and I'm really concerned about this. And I said, well, what, don't, is there an RNC that like exists to deal with this? And this person said, well, the problem is that these drop boxes are disproportionately in what he called urban areas. And no one at the RNC wants to be seen as criticizing the way things are done in urban areas. And I thought, well, why is the RNC hiring guilty white liberals? If you're a guilty white liberal, I'm not attacking you. I don't want to live near you or meet you, obviously, but there's

a political party for you. What are they doing at the RNC? It's a good question. It is a good question. I mean, it is completely critical that we get a hold of that. I mean, like, you know, you've got, was it Michael Watley and Laura Trump are now running the RNC. They established this renewed emphasis on voter integrity and all these, I think they've got all sorts of legal challenges they've mounted across the country. That's headed in the right direction. But if you are opting out of dealing with election integrity in critical areas, because you're afraid you'll be seen as racist for trying to protect the votes of the people who live there, you've lost the plot. You've lost the plot. Because it turns out voter integrity laws, if we're talking about black voters specifically, are disproportionately beneficial to black voters.

Look what happened in Georgia. After they changed their election laws to make it so that you can no longer just do signature matching on a mail-in ballot, they said, you got to send in your driver's license number with the ballot. Well, yeah. When they did that, black voter participation went up and fewer black votes were rejected. Yeah. It's obvious. And it's always obvious. In fact, signature matching was working to the detriment of authentic black voters. They were having their ballots thrown out because it turns out sometimes your signature doesn't match what you signed when you were 18 years old. Like when you get older and you sign like some, and you get some idiot who's looking at, not a handwriting specialist, just some random, you know, bureaucrat looking at two ballots and the signature and be like, hmm, throwing that out.

Throwing what? I think that the period where there's going to be this intense emphasis on black voters is coming to an end because of immigration. And native-born black voters will become less important to election outcomes, dramatically less important starting after this election. And so that means black political power, as we've thought about it for the last 60 years, will be in rapid, rapid decline. And it's just interesting. It sort of reminds me of organized labor. You know, I'm not against unions. I'm not against black voters. I'm for all American voters.

But they got sold out by their leadership. For sure. Yeah. Like, so completely. And I'm not sure people really understand that. Like, I just don't think it's going to matter too much, actually, because the demographics of the country have changed so much in the last 10 years. Do people get this? I hope so. There's some shifting, it looks like, among Black men,

which has been good. The left is very angry about that. And the more angry they get about it, the more likely they are to try and take it out on you. But increasingly, it's just symbolic though. I mean, if you have 10 million illegal aliens or 30 million illegal aliens, we don't even know the number, but it's tens of millions and they're all going to vote, you know, sooner rather than later, probably,

but definitely at some point, no one's going to be deported. Then like the whole civil rights movement, that whole mythology becomes sort of meaningless because the Democratic Party will have political power without black voters, like no matter what they do, it doesn't matter. Yeah, and then the whole history of that party

has been hurting black people, black Americans. I've noticed. It's disgraceful all the way from, you know, you mentioned at the outset of the conversation, like the KKK and Margaret Sanger and the targeting, the so-called Negro Project. I mean, it has been a relentless assault, actually,

on black Americans, which is a disgrace. And I just hope more and more people can wake up to it. But while they still have political power, to the extent that they do, and it's being sold out now as you speak. And so that's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, I don't have a ton of friends

who are black Democrats. I know a lot of and love a lot of friends who are black Democrats. I know a lot of, and love a lot of, you know, right wing black people, but I have one friend who's a black Democrat. He's a really good guy, but I made this point to him a few years ago.

I was like, it's kind of over for the political power that you've been talking about your whole life because of immigration. Yeah. And he had honestly not really thought about it. Well, now you're seeing it in Chicago. Now I'm bragging, but I think he agrees with me now because it's just, it's a numbers question. How many angry town hall meetings have you seen in Chicago over this issue? Yeah. A lot, a lot. Black residents of Chicago,

they're going confronting, but the aldermen, right, in Chicago, confronting them and saying, what the hell? Why? So, wait a second. So, foreigners, illegal foreigners are pouring into the country. They're coming to Chicago. They're taking all of the public resources and we're being left in the slums? And how many times has this needed to happen before you wake up to it? Like, when the riots were happening, the George Floyd riots were occurring, and Chicago became one of the latest cities to be ransacked,

the lady who looked like Beetlejuice who ran the city, she deployed the National Guard to the extent that a mayor is supposed to do that anyway, but she was given resources. She sent it to, what do they call that, the Million Mile or something? The really nice area of Chicago where all of her donors live. Like the richest area of Chicago. Meanwhile, the South Side left defenseless. People were getting murdered in the streets, losing their lives, places being wrecked because she refused to protect the most vulnerable because she had no interest. I saw this during Katrina in New Orleans. The French Quarter was fine. All the cops were in the French Quarter.

Lower Ninth, nobody. I saw it. Yeah, no, of course. It does sort of raise the question. I mean, this is the purpose of ginning up racial hostility, obviously, is to make people vote against their own interests, their demonstrable interests, because they so despise or they're so afraid of

the other party coming to power on racial grounds. Yeah. That's what is actually happening. Sorry. It's totally crazy. So Kamala's what is actually happening. Sorry. It's totally crazy. So Kamala's campaign is about what? This week, it's joy. It's joy.

This weekend, that's what they keep telling everybody. I could think of it being about a lot of different things, but joy is the most preposterous of all. For sure. Because she's so obviously joy. She's kissing her husband with a mask on. So this is the most joyless person I've seen lately.

Well, that's consistent. The pitch is opposite of everything. But why? That's like a deep, I've never really figured it out. Like why? An effective lie is always like a few degrees off from center,

from the truth, right? Yeah. Isn't it? I mean, last week she was like, I'm for no tax on tips now. Like, the Trump policy? Yeah, I saw that. Now, yeah, I'm for no tax on tips.

She said, okay. Like, what? Where did that come from? Oh, I'm going to secure the border. What? Who are you? Like, will you stop lying to us? But why not instead,

like, but that's not how normal people lie. Normal people, like, I catch you doing something wrong, and you, you know, like, it's not as bad as it looks or, but you don't whip around and accuse me of doing the exact thing that I caught you. I mean, this is kind of like the classic sort of like cheating on your wife and trying to figure out a way to survive it. Yeah. You start blaming her as the sinner, right? So this is, the Democratic Party's relationship with Americans is an abusive one. I saw that. I actually saw that once.

I was actually, probably shouldn't tell this. I was with somebody who, I wasn't there for this, but he got caught cheating. And I was like, whoa, not a good person. And I said, what did you say? And he said, I screamed at her for spending too much at Saks on her credit card. I was like, what? You get caught where she had evidence

that he was doing something wrong, which he was. And you attack her? I thought that was the most screwed up thing I'd ever seen. But that's a thing you're was. Yeah. And you attack her? I thought that was the most screwed up thing I'd ever seen. But that's a thing you're saying. Definitely. Which is why family analogies

are so perfect for all of this. It's like, what do you do? I know you've done this for years, but like, what does it mean

to run a healthy household? Like, do you lock your doors at night? You know, how do you protect your family? You know,

what does that look like? What kind of example are you to your children? All of those things. The only things that matter, you mean? Yeah. Yes. The Democrats are leading the most dysfunctional household you've ever seen.

Yeah. They're abusing the children, attacking each other, all the sins that they're committing, they're projecting onto all their other family members. Yes, yes. It's really degrading and total dysfunction. It's awful. And it's also why it's godless. It's also why it's godless, because you begin assuming this omnipotent power over reality itself and begin telling everyone else that they're the problem and they're the sinners and that they should

respond to you. Meanwhile, in the healthy household, what's happening is there's a father who's demoing for his children what it looks like to have a father's love. And their children only know God through that lens. That's how you know. How do you, so we refer to God the father, how do you even know how he functions as a father unless you have a human father as a frame of reference? You don't. You don't understand what that looks like. If you have a dysfunctional relationship with the men in your life, how are you ever going to get your head around the idea that God the Father is a loving father?

You know what I mean? So like, all of these things, it's just- I do know, I've never thought of it before, but this is a, yes, I know, of course I know exactly what you mean. That's why the fathers are so important. Because like all of reality centers around what your impression of what it means

to have a good father is. That's it. That's the whole ballgame. So the left is leading the dysfunctional household where they're driving everybody to self-destruction, and it should be the obligation of normal people to counter that and to have a healthy household, and by extension, a healthy country. That's so interesting. I have noticed the symptoms of what you're saying. And the main one is the people they're attacking, you know, I don't have a PhD on America or whatever, but I, you know, I know a lot of like rural Trump voters, for example. And they're not only good people, they're actually like the best people I've ever met. And they're also the most useful and skillful people I've ever met. Like the most, like actually the most.

Yes. They do the most useful things. And the people attacking them, someone like Janet Yellen, the treasury secretary, from my perspective, which is a simple perspective because I'm a simple man, is like an utterly disgraced figure. Like utterly. Like there's no one who has less credibility a shorter track record of real achievement there's no one who's like more repulsive in every way than janet ellen to me anyway and she's the one helping to like malign people with real skills it's like that's not an accident this whole system is set up for useless people to have power whereas in a just society they would have no power i know sometimes i wonder like at

the lowest levels like whether like the productive among us are like i don't know it's you know how like at the lowest levels of government other than the household which of course we were just talking about like the hoAs and the community boards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like they're all consisted of like the insecure busybodies. Right, no total. And like the productive people who should be in those roles, the ones who have families and know how to mediate a dispute between their children. Insecure busybodies.

You know what I mean? Yes, I do. Like they're not actually in charge of those organizations. No. And so, I don't know. This is the best system ever devised in terms of a government, but there are clearly weaknesses. And that's one of them. The feeder system into the bigger aspects of government is a lot of insecure busybodies. Maybe that's probably always been that way. I'm sure the Roman Senate was filled with insecure, busy bodies.

But it never, I guess what I think is new and really obnoxious at best, poisonous at worst, is not just that like the least competent people have the most power, but that they use that power to hurt the most competent people. That is just crazy to me. It is.

Like you would think, like they would at least for self-interest reasons, they would say, well, you know, people actually know how to run a power grid or fly an airplane or perform heart surgery. Like we shouldn't attack them on the basis of their skin color because we like need those people. We don't want to be Zimbabwe.

But they seem to want to destroy all those people. Do you feel like that's gotten worse? I mean, obviously. Oh my gosh, yes. Like the, you know, you asked me earlier about like the distance that the ruling class has from the rest of America. You'd probably be better at answering that question. Like, I mean- I don't know. I mean, I obviously, you know, I guess I'm part of the ruling class. I've been in it my whole life and I think it gives me a better perspective on how lame they are.

There's no mystery for me. I know exactly who they are because I know them. And I have total contempt for them. program is not to uplift anyone. It's to hurt people, specifically Christians above all, but also anyone who's productive, free thinking, the people you really need, like the guys who designed and run the power grid. Those are the people you need most. First responders, firemen, cops, EMTs, airline pilots. It's not just like, oh, we need more incompetent airline pilots. It's that we need the current group of airline pilots to die because they have skills that we'll never have. I mean, I feel like this whole system is based on hatred, born of envy. That's the way I read it. And you look at, there are a couple of foreign countries, South Africa and Zimbabwe particularly, where the whole point wasn't to redistribute the

land to the landless. That didn't actually happen. All the land went to the people with political power. The point was to crush the farmers because the farmers were too productive and that was offensive to the people in charge. It's like, you go get that yield out of that land when you're tobacco or whatever you're growing. They couldn't. So we have to crush and kill them. They killed them, a lot of them. And so I feel like they're hurting people is the point. That does feel, it's definitely not about helping black people or helping trans community or helping immigrants i probably wouldn't be totally against it if it was i like helping people but it's not it's not about your policies like all of that is enabling their destruction the enabling is what's happening so like you know this whole like

the needle exchange programs like the left has been on this for years wait you're going to help people continue to inject drugs into their bodies that's the that's the plan like uh all of the you know marijuana initiatives like you're going to continue you're going to dull people that's the that's the plan like uh all of the you know marijuana initiatives like you're gonna continue you're gonna dull people that's the the plan is to broadly dull the american people the trans stuff you're gonna tell people yes your body's a mistake the only intervention is my big corporate donor getting rich off of your misery for the rest of your life like that's again to go back to the family analogy in a family family, you would intervene. In a healthy family. In a dysfunctional family, you would enable. And that's what they're doing. They're enabling destruction.

Yeah, see, I can't relate. I mean, I am the oldest man in my family pretty much at this point, so I intervene all the time. Like, that's what you do. I've seen it. Yeah. I'm an intervener, like immediate intervener. So I think that's your duty. And I just kind of, I don't, you know, I love this country and I love its cities. For example, I've lived in a number of them, but I have contempt for people who allow like a needle exchange program to happen. Like, why doesn't someone go burn down the needle exchange? Like, I'm serious. And take the lumps, go to jail for it. But we're not going to give people intravenous drugs in my neighborhood,

period. I'm not going to put up with that, period. And if you punish me for getting in the way, I will accept that punishment. But I'm not going to allow it. I don't know why people allow that. I really don't. I'm probably saying too much, but I'm not encouraging violence. I'm encouraging zero tolerance for killing people. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, meanwhile, the Biden administration is sending out needle kits. They're a part of this. And it's just...

I don't know. If you'll accept that, what won't you accept? Yeah. I mean... I was in Australia this year, and they put people in camps, in concentration camps, like actual. And if you bring that up, you know, you put people in concentration camps for COVID. Well, they're not really concentration camps, really? I remember.

Where were they? I remember the colored tape that they had on the floor. Yeah. If you stepped across it, you would be arrested. Yeah, and they did. They arrested people. Yeah. People put up with it.

You're going to get to a place like Canada where they're just like, well, getting to the exact same place that Germany got to in 1933, where if you're useless, we're going to get to a place like Canada where they're just like, well, getting to the exact same place that Germany got to in 1933 where if you're useless, we're going to kill you. Which they did. They killed hundreds of thousands of Germans. Christian Germans because they had disabilities where they were useless. And they murdered them in hospitals. Children. And they're

doing that in Canada now with the MAID program. And just killing people. Well, it's just cheaper for us to kill you. And everyone's putting up with it, it's just cheaper for us to kill you. And everyone's putting up with it. It's just like, yeah, you can't put up with certain things. And they'll punish the useful.

So they'll kill the useless and punish the useful. So, so the truckers in Canada get their lives destroyed by merely exercising what is their God given right, which is to protest, which is to object in the democratic system in which they thought they lived and then had their lives destroyed and because they didn't have any power to stop it. And that was, I mean, Antifa burns down cities, Canadian truckers set up hot tubs in the streets and protest the government. Yeah. It just seems like there's no kind of way

out other than saying, you know, I'm willing to be punished for trying to stop the killing of other people. And that's what I don't like about the party system. It obscures what's at stake. It's like, well, I want my guy to get elected or my party to thrive. It's like, none of that really matters. You cannot allow some NGO to abet intravenous drug use. Like, let's just start there. Or fund the NGOs to the tune of billions of dollars to traffic every foreign national across our border they can get their hands on.

Yeah, well, I never understood why the totally useless governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, didn't just put the National Garland Board. I've said that to his face. I ran into him in an event. I was like, why don't you do that? It's really complicated. It's not complicated.

If there's a home invasion in my house, I'm going to get my firearm and stop it if I can. Yeah. And then I'll, you know, deal with the consequences

because it's my family. So that, that's my priority is pretty simple. Protect my family. And then, you know, if the law is broken,

I'll take my lumps. Do you think mass deportation is possible? Of course not. Of course it's not possible. So the majority of the public supports it. Yep. Right now.

They don't have the stomach for the images of it, obviously. So the second, you know, the media can find one sob story, they'll accelerate it quickly to hurt Trump and to justify allowing the chaos to continue. And I do think there's a middle ground. I don't think you have to do mass deportations. I think if Washington was responsible enough, which of course we know the answer, they're not.

But if they were responsible enough, they could just create the conditions whereby people wouldn't be able to- Well, of course. Live here and take from us. So past nationwide, you verify. Like literally force businesses to have to hire workers who are allowed to work for them. So, pass Nationwide E-Verify. Like, literally force businesses to have to hire workers

who are allowed to work for them. But we're so far past that because that presupposes that, you know, the immigrants are, all they're getting is access to our

labor markets. Right? E-Verify would stop people from working without papers. Right. Without the legal right to work. But,

we're bringing in tens of millions of people and giving them flat out subsidies that are much higher than American citizens are receiving. So we're paying them to come here. We paid for their travel up here indirectly, State Department's doing it, UN's doing it at scale. And then once they get here, it's just like, it's a pinata party with US tax dollars, a bankrupt country is paying people to invade it. So at that point, it's like, what are we really looking at? Well, you're looking at suicide. Like you're looking at a country that's trying to destroy itself or whose leaders are trying to destroy it. And then that's when you reach like the point where like, I just have to say more prayers about this. I don't know. I know. But you have to, so, but if you had like the point where like, I just have to say more prayers about this. I don't know. I know, but you have to,

but if you had like a real administration that could come in who had the will to do it, you cut off all of that. You don't need to be- And someone who could explain it, you know, words matter. Someone who could just get up and say, not against immigrants,

but this is obviously suicide and we're not going to participate in it. Is J.D. Vance a good explainer? I think he's great and he's sincere. You know, certainly politics is not good for people. So, you know, I have seen people change. I pray that he doesn't, but I, as someone who knows him pretty well, I think, as of right now, I think he's the opposite of weird. He is. And I think they're all weird. I'm not even going to say all the people I know are actually really weird in Republican politics. It's definitely most of them. Some of them are obvious. Lindsey Graham or whatever. Everyone jokes about it. But there are so many freaks, like just truly deceptive people because the business draws them like a bug light. He's not at all that way.

You're not excluding Democrats from that assessment. You're just saying, you know, you happen to know that a lot of Republicans are worried. Well, anyone at this point in the training party is like, you're a freak. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, that's a female admiral. Like, if you're saying that, what? No, I mean, in the Republican Party,

which should be the party of normal people, it represents normal people. Sure, yeah. You know, tries to, pretends to. So,

no, J.D. Vance is like the most normal person. Oh, so you really think that. I was, I mean, I have wondered, So, no, J.D. Vance is like the most normal person. Oh, so you really think that. I mean, I have wondered, like, you know a lot of these guys. Is J.D. Vance like sort of, he's at the top of the normal people list for now? I think he is. Are there a couple who are really normal?

In my opinion, this is just my opinion, whatever, one man's opinion. But Senator Schmidt from Missouri is's wonderful man i like like an actual good person i know that for a fact um so you know i'm sure there are others yeah i like tommy tubberville yeah i don't so i don't know him but i just i've talked to him a lot i thought he was a hero for the abortion fight yeah yeah i completely agree no i look i'm generalizing i'm just disappointed in the party but there are certainly a ton of freaks. J.D. is not. He's like a normal person. Yeah. And he's legit

smart. So, yeah, he could definitely make the case. And what purpose does he serve? Is it just to explain, or what purpose does he serve working with Trump, do you think? Well, again, these are just, I mean, my opinions. I don't really know the answer. How does this turn into an interview with me? I just want to know. genuinely want to know because i know you're a

fan of jd i am yeah and i want to know why yeah i've known him since long before he got into politics so uh so i have you know a sense of him as a person i think because politics does you know it's a very weird business yeah for sure you well know since unlike me you still live in washington but um from my perspective i mean i can't speak to why Trump chose him. And it was Trump who chose him, you know, facing enormous pressure from sleazy anti-American Republican donors who have all kinds of agendas, none of which have anything to do with life in the United States. Trust me, really, really unbelievable people, but in a bad way, but he faced them all down and chose this guy because he wanted to. So from my perspective, the message that JD Vance's pick sent was there is more to the Trump

phenomenon than just the man. There's a set of ideas or at least impulses. I don't know ideas, but just the basic, the basic concept is a leader of a country should look out for his own country. It's like not hard. And by picking J.D. Vance, who clearly believes that, Trump is setting up a legacy, a really meaningful legacy. Like this is the direction of the party because people can't wait for Trump to leave in the Republican party and just go back to being completely bought and paid for arm of the lobbying

community in Washington, whether it's pharma, the banks, or certainly- The power brokers of the party are excited. Certainly the weapons manufacturers, the defense industry, the killing people business that goes on that's made it such a rich city. Those people can't wait for Trump to leave and just put in some stooge, which is most of them, and call it Trumpism or whatever, but it's the opposite. And J.D. Vance is like tangible sign that Trump understands that there's more to this than just him. This is a really important idea. It's a very common sense idea. It's the most common sense idea. You can't have a democracy

if the people who run the country aren't acting on the country's behalf, by definition. And it also seems like he has the most perspective out of everybody in Washington. Meaning, he's lived in every category of American life. And so as a result, if you have that much stored wisdom, you should put it to good use. I totally agree. And you hate to reduce people to their biography, and we do that too much in my view.

But biography does matter. Like how you grew up matters. The fact that you're the son of a Marine officer and grew up all around the country, like literally all around the country on bases like that, knowing you for a long time, that very much affects your worldview. That's my perception. So it does matter. And the best thing about JD biographically, in my opinion, is the fact that he grew up in, you know, one of these kind of sad communities, post-industrial communities in Ohio, Southern Ohio, Appalachia, and joins the Marine Corps, enlisted. He's smart. He winds up at Yale Law School, which really is like the center of the credential factory in American life. Yeah. And forget Ohio. There's not a lot of Marines going to Yale.

Yeah. Not enlisted. No, he's like literally enlisted, enlisted Marine. Yeah. Yeah. Like my father, you know, and the guys who tell you to be careful of when they've been drinking, you know, like, and he went to Yale Law School. And then he immediately, because it's a short step from Yale Law School to private equity in the Aspen Institute. Yeah. And then Trump is starting to rise and people are like, oh, here's our white Appalachian guy, except we've already molded his brain. So why don't you come to the Aspen Institute and tell us all, David Brooks and all the douchebag community,

what it's like to be a product of this sad, you know, opioid addicted world that you're from. And he does, he dutifully does. Like, why wouldn't he? And he does this for a couple of years and he realizes through a lot of contact with these people that they're disgusting and he winds up hating them,

which is very much sort of my personal story. Yeah, yeah. Like my contempt is born of like knowledge and contact. Like I'm not, this is not theoretical for me. Like I dislike people because I know them and I know how completely they have abandoned their duty to the country. And I have contempt for them for that. And JD had had exactly the same experience. And he's like,

I know exactly who you are. I know everything you have to offer. Yeah. And I'm not interested. He's got the right perspective. And boy, they hate him for that. It's so good. And he's got, and unlike them, he doesn't have contempt for the people that he grew up with. He doesn't have contempt for the voters. No. And that's the critical element. And J.D., I will say, is a lot like Dr. Ben Carson in this way because Ben Carson kind of had that trajectory. Yeah.

And once – so J.D., as you pointed out, was the muse to middle America. He was the muse to the unwashed American masses. Exactly. The left loved him when he was merely an author. And they could pretend like they cared about those people. That was the only reason they loved him. And then the second he announces that he's interested in Republican politics, now he's evil.

Now we're going to make up stories about him. The same with Ben Carson. It happens over and over and over again. It's totally right. And the fact that he criticized Trump and Trump is a fascist and da, da, da, da, da. And basically saying the same things that, you know, David Brooks says every week or Tom Friedman or any of those other morons in the New York Times editorial page. And then he like realizes that now actually there's like more to Trump than that.

And then he ends up liking Trump. And it's like pretty sincere, I think. I mean, I know it is because I've seen it. And they're like, wait, you can't, you can't work for Trump. You once disliked Trump. You said the same things about Trump that we say every day. Therefore, it's like, what do you even say? As we're speaking, Kamala Harris is disavowing every position she's ever held. And the idea that you'd be critical, be like, oh, you didn't like Trump once? Well, I kind of like, I don't kind of, I very much like people who change their views on things. Sincerely change your views.

Don't just tailor their views to whatever's expedient. But who actually have had, we used to call it growth. Remember that? Yeah. When people grew. They like,

sorted through the evidence and realized they were wrong. I mean, I've had that experience so many times. I know, I'm sure you have also. For sure.

I like that. Yeah. I like that. Tell me, that's why I like AA meetings. Tell me how wrong you were. Like, admit it. Admit how powerless and flawed you are.

And now I'll trust you. Yes. I don't trust you if you pretend to be God, because you're not. Yeah, exactly right. Right? Yeah. You just take everything apart and just stare out on the floor and see what fits together again. But those are honest people.

Yeah. And the dishonest ones, which is most people in authority, are like, oh, I've always thought that, you know, whatever, men can become women

or whatever. Transvisibility Day has been important to me since 1972. Like, what? Yeah. Yeah. Or they just pretend

like they ever had those positions. Like, you know, Barack Obama, he was like, marriage is only between a man and a woman. Like, not anymore,

not apparently. And he's never looked back. man and a woman. Like, not anymore, not apparently. And he's never looked back. Well, it's always the, you know, it's sad. It's the closet cases that are like so weird

on that subject. You know what I mean? It's, I've seen it so much. It makes them so uncomfortable that they kind of like go too far in the other direction.

You know what I mean? Yeah. No, I'm serious. That's pretty funny. Like dating 10 women at once. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. No, I'm serious. That's pretty funny. Like dating 10 women at once. Did you see the video of Biden at the debate in 2007,

Democratic debate, announcing that Barack Obama had an AIDS test? Yes, I think I... Oh, it's the funniest video ever. Biden, it's at the... This is all the things that happen that get lost that nobody recalls. But in fact, I think we put it up on our X feed

because it's so good. But Biden, who really is like a soulless person, said, well, I know, I think, you know, AIDS is a real problem in the African-American community. And I think we should all get AIDS tests. I mean, Barack Obama had an AIDS test. There's a cutaway of obama being like i hate you then biden's like he just lets it hang there for just one second and he's like i mean i which is totally good and you know i think he's he's negative but i mean all men should get an aid. Obama is so mad.

Yeah. So mad. Cause like everybody in democratic politics knows that Obama, you know, they all think that Obama is on the down low. Like they all think that I trust me. They think that. Well,

he, he, I mean, there's actual evidence for this. I mean, because David Garrow's biography, he wrote about, I'm aware I've talked to Dave Garrow about it,

which was like, which was, and that book was, you know, it was the definitive book on Obama. That guy interviewed, so he won, what's the award? He won an award for his MLK book, MLK biography. And then he goes on. Was it Parting the Waters or I can't. Something like that.

Yeah. And then he goes on and he writes this, the most single, the single most in-depth book on Barack Obama that's ever existed. He's talked to literally everybody, like Obama's mailman, everybody, like anybody who's ever had any contact. Former girlfriends, too. Former girlfriends. And that's where he got the letters, where Obama was admitting his gay fantasies to a girl that he was seeing.

And so the media refused to cover it, which was totally real. It was like, it's in the book. There's no denying it. I mean, Garrow is considered, I think, one of the most authoritative biographers alive. And, you know, people just get right back. And Garrow's a liberal. But I think, I'm pretty sure, if I can say conclusively, that Garrow came to really kind of dislike Obama and to think he was fraudulent during the writing of that book. And that book was, I don't know, it wasn't banned, of course, but it was... Suppressed.

It was, definitely. Yeah. Because it got to the core question, which is who is this guy exactly? And he clearly has a lot of talents. I've always thought that about Obama. But he was also like, there's deception at the core. Also, it kind of gives away the game, because if their whole belief is that it's, he was also like, there's deception at the core. Also, like it kind of gives away the game. Cause if their whole belief is that it's totally normal to be gay, then like, why wouldn't

they just feature it? Well, I completely agree with that. Like, why wouldn't they just be like, oh, this is another great detail about his life that we've discovered. Well, I, it's so weird to be, you know, on the right or wherever I am and feel like you're more liberal on this stuff than like the democratic party. Cause there are plenty of people in the Democratic Party who are still closeted.

And it's like, by the way, I do not believe in getting into, you know, I think people should be allowed to reveal as much as they want about their personal lives. Like privacy is really important. In fact, it's essential. So it's not my place to, you know, get into that.

But there are a ton. But the reason these- Including really famous ones. And it's like, how dare you get up and everybody else is constantly lecturing everyone about their sex lives. Like, it's your business. It's not.

Just shut up about everyone's sex life, okay? Yeah. One. Two, if you're like Mr., you know, or Ms., you know,

gay rights advocate and you're closeted, like, what? How can you live with yourself? Also, the core point with all of these stories is like if if you're leading your life in deception why should you have any responsibility over the rest

of ours so if you're in power yeah if you have power it is reasonable to ask fundamental questions about what you're honest about and what you're lying about i dude i agree completely and we all lie and um and it's bad but it's like super super basic lies ongoing lies like that yeah yeah it tells you a lot and as a voter you want to know that kind of thing oh like uh in kamala harris's case you see the the the intern who once worked for her who revealed what it was like working in her office in uh in san francisco i think it was approximately exactly what you would expect. Every time she walked in in the morning, they had to say, good morning, general.

General. So like, I think a lot of people don't realize, like, I guess there is like, there is a format, there is like a formal title that you could refer to an attorney general as general, but it is so preposterous that almost nobody does it. I know many attorneys general, many, many, more than preposterous that almost nobody does it. It's so stupid. I know many attorneys general, many, many, more than 10,

and I've never called a single one of them general. No, and to the extent that you've ever talked to them about it, they're like kind of embarrassed by the concept, like you're not actually a general, so don't say that. Yeah, how many tanks do you have? Yeah, generals. So she would walk in in the morning, and her expectation was that every single person

would stand and say, good morning, general. Yeah. Now, as you know, my dad is a Marine general. An actual general. And he said, he told me, he's like, that story alone is told me everything I need to know about her. Every single thing I need to know about her is encapsulated in that one anecdote. It's totally right. You demand the interns who are not allowed to make eye contact, stand up when you walk in and say, good morning, general. Yeah. You should not have your hands on the levers of power. Well, yeah, because it suggests a hollowness, an insecurity, a fear.

I mean, again, she's terrified. This person is terrified. She's been elevated far beyond her capabilities. And she knows that, of course. That's why she's so brittle. And people like that are really dangerous. They're not centered. They don't have limits.

We just took a break and we were laughing about all the things that we can't say on YouTube that we bleep. And really, I think the only three categories are if you claim that men cannot become women by tapping their heels together and wishing it so. If you claim that the 2020 election, you know, that Biden didn't really get more votes than Black Jesus. If you question the election in any way. And what's the third? Oh, the Vax. Yeah. Vax is great.

Everything about the Vax is great. Safe and effective. And if you say anything to the contrary of those, you just get demonetized and then they take your channel away. But I think you can say pretty much anything. I think those are the only three guidance points I've received. Yeah. So that leaves a lot, doesn't it? So I just want to make directly clear that I totally believe in the Vax, the 2020 election and the tranny stuff. Yeah, yeah. Full blown. And I saw Bigfoot on the way in here. I don't know if people can hear that me say that. I think I did.

I saw him on the way in. You know, the earth is flat, of course. 100%. Moon landing fake. The moon landing's fake. I came around to that. I didn't believe it. CIA killed Kennedy.

No problem at all. Yeah, yeah. You can say all of that. So you're saying everything we said before that, nobody could hear it? No, no one could hear it. No, no, no. I was just endorsing those views. I think the vax is safe and effective.

I just want to say that ivermectin is for, it's a horse dewormer or something. Sure. Yeah, yeah. So, okay. Here's my last, because we're trying to turn this around today. So I keep going, but we have to get this into edit to bleep all the stuff that YouTube doesn't want you to hear, which you can get on our website, tuckercarlson.com,

uncensored, if you like. Here's my question. We both agree that there's no chance Kamala Harris gets, quote, elected president, except through the unremitting lying by the American news media. Like she's their candidate.

They have to get her across the finish line. This is infuriating to me. So infuriating that I don't really watch. You have to watch because you have a daily show. Of all the dishonest media outlets out there, which is basically all of them, including the Wall Street Journal, what is the most dishonest? The most dishonest. I would say, I guess the people who jump off the page at me immediately, I guess there's two shows in particular. One is Morning Joe. The whole cast of Morning Joe, they literally have a character on that show who's called Barnacle. He hangs on to the show. He's been hanging on for years. But anyway, the point is that show,

they'll change their attitudes on a dime just to serve whatever the left wants at any given moment. It's really sad. It's pathetic. And they're so angry about Trump. And so that comes out of everything. They were Trump cheerleaders.

They were Trump cheerleaders. And now they're Biden cheerleaders or they have been up until Biden got replaced because Biden was close to them. It was the show he watched in the morning. So they tailored their programming only to his interests. And it's really embarrassing. And I would never- So when they round you up, you and your family, and put you in some camp or put you on trial for thought crimes, do you think Morning Joe will defend you?

Will mount the defense for me? Just on principle? I don't think so. And I don't think this clip will be the reason for that. I think literally, they already know what to think of me. And then. I know all those people very well. And it's sad to see it. I mean, Joe Scarborough is like not stupid at all. Joe Scarborough is actually smart.

Not that that matters. A lot of bad, smart people. But he is not stupid. He's much smarter than your average cable news person. But his, like what they're doing doesn't represent, like, he was a Florida congressman. And then he left and then there was... Like, who's represented by, like, who in Florida

would say, yeah, that guy's speaking for me? No, no, but what I'm saying is, like, he knows, like, he, like, Don Lamond, someone like that, you think, well, does he really know what he's saying? You know, no, not really. I don't think he does. I don't think he has any idea what he's saying, actually.

Which kind of makes me sort of like him. Joe Scarborough knows exactly what he's doing. That's all I'm saying. Well, yeah. Yeah. He's tactical

in his presentation. No question. I mean, and somehow he's thrived and missed all of this. Like, he and Mika got married and now they do the show in Florida

and they pretend they're in D.C. And it's like, it's all very weird. How's that going? Do they look happy? I haven't seen it in a while. I don't know.

Is that working for them? I can't. I don't know. There's so much phoniness on TV so it's like everyone's always pretending to be. I know. I don't think it's working that well.

As you know. I don't think it's working that well. The other show that stands out to me that's like so cartoonish but it does have like millions of viewers is The View.

Have you actually seen The View? Not like beginning to i'm i'm a clip consumer of the yes like just like a lot of people like i i uh i i will never allow somebody to tell me what happened and then just reinterpret that event in that way like i hate that like that happens all the way that happened to you like throughout your entire career but especially around fox like the left always had these views of you that weren't filtered through watching a clip of your show or even, or certainly not the entire show. It was literally what some lefty outlet told them about you.

That's their interpretation. And they never get it right. I mean, I always feel like I have all kinds of obvious faults. I have definitely have some pretty serious bigotries. They're just not racial bigotries, but do you know what I mean? They always got it wrong.

They're always accusing me. You won't tolerate certain things. That's what bigotry means. There are certain kinds of people I don't like at all in a very unreasonable way, but they're not black people, actually. They're affluent, a lot of affluent whites. I just don't like them, especially some of the ladies. I just don't like them. The ones who scream at you.

Yeah, the ones who scream at me. By the way, I'm not defending that. That's bigotry, but it's not the kind of bigotry they just don't like them. The ones who scream at you. Yeah, the ones who scream at me. And by the way, I'm not defending that. That's bigotry. But it's not the kind of bigotry they're always accusing me of. Do you? It's like, yeah, you're right. I'm a bad person,

but in a very different way. Can you be more accurate? But if she comes lumbering towards you with blue hair and a mask, you kind of have a read on which way this is going. Yeah, but you shouldn't judge people without knowing them, I think.

But I do in that way. But it was never, they were always like, you know, whatever. Anyway, no. Do people yell at you less now? Yeah, never anymore. I don't go anywhere, you know.

Wait, but I mean, on the few times that you're at an airport, for instance, do they yell less? Yeah, not at all anymore. Oh, that's good. It's interesting.

I don't really know what that's about. Well, you know, not having your face on Fox and then the media pretending like you don't exist. Meanwhile, you have the number one podcast in the country. Yeah. Basically, all the lefties who would be conditioned to yell at you

don't consume whatever one else is consuming. I never cared. It never bothered me. Just don't come to my house. You know, that was always my view. So anyway, the view, I haven't seen the view in a long time. It's just, it's like, it's over the top, like comical cheerleading for like everything the left is for.

And they're always against Trump at all costs, no matter what he does. He's always guilty of everything. He was rightly prosecuted by every Democrat prosecutor in the country. He should be in jail. It's like, it's just. Is Joe Farah's daughter still on there? Yeah.

And nobody talks about that do they? He is such a nice man Joe Farah's a nice man and he had this very low IQ daughter What is it? It's World Net Daily right?

Yeah World Net Daily And he's just a nice guy was Joseph Farah I've known him like 30 years and he's just a nice person and

but he had this daughter who was like an idiot and um sad and she went up in the view I heard Yeah But he had this daughter who was like an idiot and sad. And she went up in the view, I heard. Yeah, well, nobody holds the Joseph Farah thing against her.

Meaning, I realize that you wouldn't hold it against her. But what I'm saying is the left, for years, demonized World Net Daily and Joe Farah. Yeah. So under, I guess, normal circumstances, anything even related to him, they would demonize. But not so with her. Like, she's on the show, and nobody even brings it up. Like, nobody... She's, as I remember, is the kind of person who will just say whatever it takes to get the acceptance of the people around her. Is she, like, a regime defender? Almost entirely. Occasionally, she'll, like, issue, issue like a squeak of moderation in the midst of all of their babbling,

but no, for the most part, a regime defender. She's really sad and stupid and easy to control like a lot of people on TV. It's awful. But then like,

of course, there's like Joy Behar who like once wore blackface and she's still like on the show. And, you know, Whoopi Goldberg

who like clearly doesn't do any research. Yeah. She just wings it entirely, which is funny. Joy Behar. So I did The View once 20 years ago when I worked at CNN. The PR department pushed me to do The View.

And the only thing, Barbara Walters was there. I remember that. I remember thinking the whole thing was so mindless. But Joy Behar was the screechiest human being I'd ever met in my life. Is she still that way? A hundred percent. Maybe worse. Probably worse. worse really yeah uh probably worse it it is crazy and do you think that like any any world in which whoopi goldberg is moderating

whatever meaningful whatever little debates might be breaking out at the table is like crazy can one last question do you think like i know that there are very, very few Republican donors who are worth much, unfortunately. There are some, but not a ton. But I always thought, like, a show like The View and a person like Joy Behar, that could be such a brilliant disinformation campaign. so like prima facie repulsive that she pushes people away from her position? Could it be that Joy Behar is actually getting funding from ex-Republican donor to discredit the other party's program? Right, she works for Elon. Well, you do kind of wonder. And she's still that way?

Yeah, she is. She's got to be 150 years old at this point. It's so crazy. I don't even really know how she got jobs. Wasn't she on CNN at one point? She had a headline show. I don't know. Not when I was there.

I think it was after you were there. Okay. Anyway, the point is it still exists. They're still crazy. It makes for great fodder for clips. I mean, I love clips from the show because it's so ridiculous. It's so easy to eviscerate. It's like Ben Shapiro debating a college student.

It's like the easiest stuff. It's funny. Yeah, thank heaven for that. A daily show would be impossible without the rest of the media. Yeah, for sure. I remember certain days when I had a daily show. Thank heaven I don't do that anymore. But I'd be like, oh my gosh, it's August.

Like, what are we talking about? This is before the news went totally crazy at all times. But, you know, there's always some Tom Fox, our genius producer would always be like, what, I don't know what to write about tonight. He'd be like, I'll send you some clips and they would piss me off so completely. Yes.

You have like Don Lemon saying that a plane disappeared into a black hole. Right. And you're like, of course we have to do that. But yeah, actually, now that I think about it, that may be the one thing he was right about. I was just thinking that exact same thing. That was the old Don Lemon.

That was, like, Don Lemon before he decided to do whatever Jeff Zucker wanted. Totally. Yeah. And I remember mocking him and being like, oh, that's so stupid. Compared to what? Like, what's the real answer? Yeah. And, like, I think it was, I think when he said that, there was, like, people on and everyone looked so embarrassed that he said it out loud, but he stuck to it. And that

was his greatest moment. Yes. I totally actually, I'll end with this, his greatest moment ever. And I think I'm, correct me if I got this wrong, but he was profiled by like Atlanta magazine or something. Do you remember this? I remember. I don't remember the magazine specifically, but I may be getting this wrong, but he's sitting and the reporter is a female reporter, very good writer, this woman. I think I know her, but whatever. Anyway, she was, I don't remember the magazine specifically, but I think I know her. I may be getting this wrong, but he's sitting and the reporter is a female reporter, very good writer, this woman. I think I know her, but whatever. Anyway, she was, I can't remember who it was, but she's having lunch with Don Lamon

and he's like, you know, in journalism. You know, the thing about journalism, Vince, those who have been chosen to practice it, to stride its hallowed halls, men like Woodward and Bernstein and myself. And he's just giving this like impossibly pompous lecture. And the waiter comes up and he's also like fussy and pompous. And Don Lamond goes, I'd like some lemon sorbet. And the pompous, fussy waiter goes,

I'm sure it's actually pronounced sorbet, which is like devastating. Actually, you mispronounced the name of the dessert. Yeah. You pompous dude. After trying to impress your dinner guest with how impressive you are. But Don LeVon is living in this like airtight bubble of self-esteem that's just impregnable.

Like you can't violate Don's self-esteem. It's just, it's bulletproof. And so he goes, no, my man, it's pronounced sorbet. I'm like, I love you. Because you're so stupid, but it's real. He stuck to his guts. I love you.

That's the best. Bring back that, Donald. I totally agree. Vince, thank you. Thank you, Tucker.