The Ultimate Blog Podcast - Unexpected Benefits of Blogging: Skills That Go Beyond the Blog

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

If you’ve been thinking about starting a blog but feel unsure about whether or not you can do it, you’re not alone. Many aspiring bloggers face doubts about their skills, tech knowledge, and ability to build a successful online presence. But as Amy, co-host of The Ultimate Blog Podcast, shares in this special episode, blogging is about so much more than just writing posts — it’s a journey of growth, confidence, and opportunity. Tune in to be inspired by all the unexpected things Amy has learned from blogging – and listen until the end for Amy’s best advice for new bloggers!If you haven’t heard how Amy got started with blogging in Episode 15, check it out here!🔗Get the Beginner Blogger Playlist🔗Click here and check out the show notes for this episode!

Welcome to the Ultimate Blog Podcast. This podcast is the podcast we wish we had when we started blogging. I'm Amy Reinicki. I'm Jennifer Draper. Our episodes dive deep into how to monetize your blog, sharing unique insights and practical tips. We bring you in-depth interviews with successful bloggers and experts who offer valuable, actionable advice.

Our mission is to educate, support, inspire, and empower you in your blogging business. Welcome to the Ultimate Blog Podcast. If you listen to the Ultimate Blog Podcast on a regular basis, you know that we often have a lot of really amazing guests on the show. But one thing we realized is that we had never really been guests on our own show. And with two of us, we thought, well, gosh, why are we not interviewing each other and

sharing a little bit more about our own perspectives and stories when it comes to blogging? And so a few weeks ago, Amy sat down and interviewed me and we had so much fun. And now today it's my turn and I get to ask Amy some questions about her blogging journey. So if you have not listened to it and you want to know the background, you can jump back to clear back to episode number 15, where she shares a little bit more about how she got started with blogging. But today we are going to focus in a different area. And what we really want to talk about is where she's at today. So what has blogging and what has been being a blog coach done for her life and her business

and where she's at today? So welcome to your own podcast, Amy. I am so glad to be here. First and foremost, what I'd like you to start talking about is just tell everybody a little bit about some of the things you've told me about when you first started blogging, where were you struggling the most and what were the biggest roadblocks that you felt

were out there for you when it came to having the confidence to start your own blog? Yeah, I think that's a really valuable question because I think there's probably a lot of people listening who are at the beginning, you know, and they're wondering, should I start a blog or what is this going to mean for me? And I feel like the way that I felt is fairly relatable to what we've heard over the years from our members and students. And I felt honestly, like a lack of confidence when it came to blogging. And I wasn't quite sure, you know, I was not like tech savvy. I didn't know a ton about computers. That was not something I, to be honest, ever really enjoyed much either. So I always say that if somebody would have told me, you know, 10, 10, 12 years ago that I was going to be helping people set up their websites, I'd be like, what are you talking about? There's no way that I'm going to know how to do that. But it's just, it's just the encouragement that you can always learn something new and you can always surprise

yourself. And you might end up excelling in an area that you thought that you wouldn't be able to or that you didn't have the skill set for. And so I was the first one in my family to actually go to college. And this has a purpose for me to start all the way back there because I'm 42. So college was a long time ago now. So college was a long time ago now, but I was the first one in my family to go. And I wasn't really ever taught how to consider a career choice. My family are, they're entrepreneurs, they own multiple businesses. And so that was like the norm of seeing.

And to be really honest, they work really long hours still. And I didn't want that for my life. I didn't want to feel like I had to work a lot. We were always provided for, but it was at the cost of long, long hours. And so I didn't necessarily want that for myself. And that's why when I went to college, I was like, no, my parents encouraged me to go into business. And I was like, that sounds boring. Absolutely not. I don't want to do that. So I did the only thing that I kind of knew. And that was I went, I went to college thinking I was

going to be a teacher, not ever having been in a classroom or anything like that. And I quickly realized I would actually not be a very good teacher. That's not where my passion is. I love my own kids, but it's not something that I feel like I would have the patience for day after day to go in and be a teacher. I believe that there are many, many people in this world who are given that gift of education and we need them. I am not one of those people. I can show up in different ways in a school or a classroom, but being like a lead teacher would not have ever been a good fit for me.

And so I quickly realized though when I went to college health was something that I was very passionate about. So I changed my degree to health promotion. And I've honestly, I use it on my own blog, like just because it's such a passion of mine, but I've never really been able to like use my degree in the way that some of the other people have. And a lot of that was due to a lack of confidence. And so, you know, fast forward, I, I wasn't feeling like I was like really living up to my potential. And then I had my first kiddo. And so it was like the easy decision to just stay home. And because I didn't necessarily need a skill set for that,

I just immediately became mom. And I felt like I really answered that call. But then as I had my other child, I have three, I started to feel that pull like there's got to be something more for me out there. And I talked about that back in episode 15. I'm sure, I don't know, it's been a while since I listened to that episode, but I'm sure I go all into it. And that's when the opportunity came to support Jennifer with her blog. And so that was something that I was very interested in just from watching

her. And I was actually just sharing a health and wellness journey on Instagram at the time and thinking that's all of it. It needed to be because once again, the tech and all that was very overwhelming in regards to blogging. I didn't think I had the time to do it. I didn't think I had the knowledge, the courage. There was a lot of stories I was honestly telling myself about why I wouldn't be a good blogger. And essentially what happened over, you know, we started working together in 2016 is when I started working for you, is I developed skills from on-site work training with Jennifer. First as a VA and then going to conferences and learning, and then I started my own blog in 2017.

So eight years later, all the skills that I have learned have given me a lot of skills. I know I keep saying that word, but they've given me a lot of skills and a lot of insight in other areas that I've now decided to show up in, in regards to volunteering at my kid school on the PTO. I've been on the PTO for four years now. And then in this past year, I also helped start a foundation called Brave Like McKenna that supports families who are fighting pediatric cancer. And I wouldn't ever have had necessarily, I think the

confidence, especially in regards to the foundation to say, yeah, I'm in when I was approached about joining an organization like that. If I wouldn't have had the experience that I've had from blogging, I think blogging and like allowing myself to be a beginner, allowing myself to learn along the way has allowed me to, to tell myself I can figure things out even if they feel really hard in the beginning. There is confidence that is built when you are learning something new and you're never too old to learn something new. No, we're in such a different day and age I now, because when we were coming out of high school,

it was like, okay, you have to go to college and you have to learn a skill to be able to have this career and this is what your career is going to be. You're gonna be deciding it. But now there's so many people offering online courses and trainings and there's podcasts and all the different ways you can learn. So you don't necessarily have to commit yourself to a specific career path.

And I think that the reason that we love blogging so much is it kind of serves as a foundation for people who want to create something. And that might look a little bit different for everyone, but it gives a base and a foundation to create a business. And within creating that business, like you said, you're not gonna necessarily know everything, but you're gonna be able to learn as you go. And I think the interesting thing is, one of the things that you learn is the ability to

learn new skills. It's not about a specific skill. It's about the ability to stay open-minded and to be willing to try the openness to being able to fail at something and try again. And then you're learning all these skills as you go. And so can you talk a little bit about, you mentioned you're helping with the PTO, you're helping with the foundation. So you started blogging and you feel like if you hadn't been exposed to that area, it

would have been much more difficult to have the positions that you have within these organizations. Can you talk a little bit about what you do with these organizations? How you think blogging helps you manage those? Why you feel excited about the fact that you were able to apply those skills? Yeah. One, I think it just gave me the confidence to take myself seriously. We say that a lot. Like when you start a blog, take yourself seriously, treat this like a business. And so allowing ourselves to kind of hone into the gifts that you have, like what gifts do you have? Some may say I have the gift of gab. And so that is true. If you listen to this podcast, you know that that's likely true because I like to talk a lot, which is

why the podcast is my very favorite thing in the whole entire world that we do. Because it allows me to talk and communicate. And so that is, that is a big part of what I do for the foundation. I'm the communications director. And so what I do there is all of our email marketing and I give insight to social media and how often we should post and what kinds of things we should be posting. And I fill in a lot of gaps. The founder is one of my best friends.

And so I fill in a lot of gaps. We're both business owners. And so we kind of have that lens of treating it like a business from the get-go because we want to be able to support as many children and families as we can. And so truly like setting it up like a business. So as simple as, not as simple, but like when we had this idea,

when Janelle had this idea to start the foundation, it was, okay, like if we're going to do it, we're going to do it the right way. So it needs to be a 501C3. We need to make sure that we have, you know, all the proper documentation for that. We need to go through all of those different things to make sure that we are set up as a foundation. And then the next piece was the legal piece. And we need to trademark Brave Like McKenna. And so having Berkeley Sweet Apple, who we had worked with for many years now and Spark and our own blogs, and who we recommend to everyone for like privacy

policies in terms of use and anything that you need on your website, but also for trademarking and knowing the importance of a trademark. And if we are building something, we need to make sure that we are keeping it safe and we are protecting it. And especially with something as emotional as this, the foundation has started because Janelle lost her daughter to DMG, which is a very rare form of pediatric cancer in about a nine month time span. And so honoring McKenna's legacy and making sure that we are showing up in a way that

not only honors her, but hopefully someday we can find a cure and we can continue to support families. We wanted to safe keep that. We didn't want somebody to come after that name that we were building it. It means something to all of us. And so, you know, the legal side of that is a huge piece of starting a foundation or maybe you're thinking of starting another business

that you need to consider those options. So that is one piece. I mentioned email marketing as well. And that is honestly the biggest thing that I do on a weekly basis for the foundation that has been so impactful. A lot of people like who are just receiving emails, do not understand the true impact of what an email is. But if you are a content creator, if you are a business owner,

you truly understand like email marketing is a rock solid part of your foundation. It is imperative that you have it. And knowing, like going into building this foundation, knowing right off the bat, like we are going to get people on an email list immediately because we are going to need to communicate to them about events, about donors, about sponsorship opportunities, about ways that they can contact legislation in order to make our laws stronger and get more funding and things like that. So email marketing is an integral part. And that was honestly a piece that I obviously knew about because I have my own email list. But with Spark Media, Jennifer has ran most of that

for a very long time. She's the one who had set up our sequences. She's the one that had been doing most of the work within Kit, which is who we use and recommend for email marketing. And so it allowed me the opportunity to go in there and let myself figure some of this stuff out, knowing I knew the basics. I knew what needed to be done to make sure that we were quote unquote, following all the rules and everything.

But then like thinking outside the box and allowing me to be creative in regards to this new endeavor and say, how do I want to tag subscribers? How do I want to communicate to them? What is important here? Because it does look different than blogging. And likely if you're like in another area, if you're building something else, it's going to look a little different

than creating a post on your blog and then sending that out to your email list or creating a newsletter that's going to pull people back to your website. But what I hope you're hearing is that you have that foundation and that was the key part is I knew how to use the program. No one else on the foundation knew how to use the program.

And so that was a gift that I was able right away to help with, which was huge. I mean, the, those of us who started, we each have our own own gifts and we all need each other in order to start this. And so knowing, okay, this is where I can help. Just let me go, let me handle it. I can do this piece. You know, that took the weight off the other people in the foundation who aren't like, oh my gosh, now I have to learn how to do email marketing. And so that's been a huge piece and it's allowed me to feel more confident because I've learned a lot doing it differently is what I'll say and learning new things about it and digging in and asking different questions to where now when we're in the ultimate blog roadmap and answering

questions and stuff, I can answer things that maybe we haven't ever done with Spark, but I've done with the foundation. So it's given me even more insight to be able to come alongside people and help them in a new and different way. And I think also, you know, we've helped a lot of bloggers over the years. We've helped a lot of bloggers who want to do a lot of different things. Like not everybody who comes to us, you know, wants to have a food blog or a fashion blog or a travel blog.

There's a lot of different ideas that people have. And so now having this experience with I've started a foundation and now I can help people who that might be their dream and they might just need a website for that. Speaking of, I'm the one who set up our website. So we didn't have to hire a website developer. I would have not known any of that if we wouldn't have set up our own website. So if we wouldn't have been able to like coach people and learn about setting up a website, there is no way that the foundation would have a website because I mean they would,

but we would have had to pay several thousand dollars for somebody to do it for us. So that's another gift that I think being part of the roadmap gives people is you join the roadmap and you learn how to like build and grow a website. And that means that you get to do that like multiple times in multiple different capacities. Like there's not a limit. Like you don't join the roadmap and we're like, yep, you only get to set up one website. That's it. If you set it up for something else, like that's awesome.

That's our goal is to empower you to go out and use your voice and use your expertise in the world in a really powerful and impactful way. And so that's just the gift of the ultimate blog roadmap and having a community and being coaches in there. And that being our community, we learn a lot too from everybody. It's just a really, really strong community where we get to learn from each other.

And I just, when I sat down to set up that website, it just felt like, wow, it wasn't lost on me. The gift that it was to sit down and create a website that honored this very special person and that we get to impact other families in a really meaningful way. And we didn't have to spend thousands of dollars to have somebody do that for us. But like the gift that I've been given by learning this, even in my 30s and now 40s is a way that I could give back. And so it's not just about like where you can show up

in your life to make more money. It's also where you can show up in your life to give back. And that's been a really important part for me, because you know, as you're hearing, I'm a volunteer on the foundation. I'm a volunteer for the the PTO it's a way that I'm using my gifts I'm not I'm not getting paid for that and and so you can use the skills that you learn in blogging not just in another paid position but you can you can use it and in any way a volunteer position or something like that like with your church

or with a community center or anything. There's so many different ways that you can use the skills. And I think too, like kind of learning the ropes of social media, because that's where I started, has been pretty impactful. I think a lot of people who aren't in the content creation space kind of have an idea about what social media is supposed to be or supposed to look like or how we're supposed to do it. And so just having some insight there, like you don't have to spend your entire life on social media to make an impact. And that's why having your website as a home base

is a really, really key piece, I think is important because I think, I don't wanna discount the importance of social media because I do think that it can support most people and most businesses, but I think that the common misconception is that that's where the majority of your time needs to be spent. And we kind of like to flip that over on its head and instead say, you need to build, you need to build the places that you own, which are your email list and are your website. And so those are the key pieces. And I do feel like with all

that we have learned with blogging over the years, I have been able to really support these two areas of my life that are important to me in those ways and have impactful conversations and be able to show up in meetings and give insight and not just insight or opinion, but hey, this is my experience and this is what I've learned and so this is what I think can help. So in regards to like PTO, I'm actually not communications for PTO currently, but I've been able to like talk to our communications person on PTO and say, you know, this is how you can make this less stressful. Like you need a content calendar and if people need things posted, like they need to give

you X amount of time, you know, create something that can make this more of a system for you instead of making it feel like a stress for you. And so just kind of having that insight is I think just really valuable. Are you thinking about starting a blog or wondering what we wish we knew when we first started? We have put together a brand new Spotify playlist that is filled with our best beginner blogging tips so you can learn what truly matters from day one. Whether you are just getting started or you want a refresher on some blogging basics, this playlist is packed with insights to help you move forward with confidence and you can listen to it on the go in less than two hours. It includes four episodes that you can listen to when you're doing laundry, when you're running your kids,

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Your support helps us reach more aspiring bloggers just like you so we can all grow together. Now, let's get blogging. We've covered a lot of ground here. And I think what I want to kind of go back to and just reiterate is, you know, you can train for a lot of things in your life. Like, for example, I went to school to be an accountant, and I did that for 13 years. Just because I quit that job doesn't mean those skills don't impact me still today and that I'm not using them for something else because our lives are ever evolving,

the world is ever evolving. And I think the goal that most of us have here, whether it is a blog that's going to make money, whether we're volunteering for an organization, at the end of the day, what we all want to have is an impact. And that's our whole idea here is we want to have an impact. So we are learning all of these skills as we go.

And I just want people to know, you've talked about a lot of, I guess, when it comes to blogging, some more advanced topics, like how do you do email marketing and things like this? And I just want everybody to know it's okay not to have that all mastered at this point. I don't know that any of us ever truly have it mastered. But what we're doing is we're learning it as we go and we're able to apply it in different areas. So you take what you learn in one area and you do it a little bit better the next time. Yeah. And a little bit better the next time and a little bit better. And that's life. So it's okay to make mistakes. It's okay to learn. It's okay to change things. It's okay to learn and grow. But

there are some of those skills at your core that you that you learn about. And I'm going to kind of ask you a leading question here a little bit because I, I want you to talk about some of the some of the things that I think have been a struggle for us in terms of creating a business and being able to do the things that have the impact. So let's talk about some of the other skills that aren't necessarily like how to use this email marketing platform, et cetera. Let's talk about being organized and having good time management skills and figuring out how to get projects from idea to completion. And how has that evolved for you as part of either Spark or being a blogger? I love that you're laughing and I love that I'm laughing with you.

This has been one of our, this is one of the things that's important to us, but it's a struggle for a lot of people and it's been a struggle for us all along. Very much. We were building a business on Post-It Notes is what I will say. But it's a struggle for a lot of people and it's been a struggle for us all along. Very much. We were building a business on Post-It Notes, is what I will say. And that worked for a little while. I'm going to use that word lightly, actually.

I'm going to use that word lightly, because it did and it didn't. And honestly, without Jennifer and without, honestly, Casey Ackerman, who came on the podcast to teach us about ClickUp, that would probably still be how I'm running my business because I would not know otherwise. My mom is one of my best friends, but my mom, when you walk into her office, it's like she should have stock and post it because there's post-its everywhere.

That is how my mom does her business. There's post-its everywhere. And so that was what was modeled to me was that's how you do that. And so what did I do when I started a business is I bought some Post-its and that's where I started putting things down and didn't know any differently. And so having that shift of there needs to be a better way to organize not just your thoughts, but also your tasks has been huge. But it has, I mean, just admittedly been a huge struggle for me because my brain does not work that way.

Uh, Jennifer's does more. And so there's taken, there's been a lot of patience and a lot of grace to teach me that. And so what I want to say to anybody out there who does not feel like they're organized or does not feel like they have like, like if systems aren't natural to you, you can learn that too. Everything takes time. And I just want you to hear that the most. You're not going to decide to start a blog one day and you're not going to be able to see the future with how it's going to impact you the most or benefit you or benefit others the most. And instead of looking on

the things that you don't think that you're going to be good at or the skills that you don't yet have, that's where I want you to lean in and ask yourself, do I have the patience and the belief in myself to learn them? And if the answer is still no, then I want you to find a community who can pour into you, who can remind you that you are actually capable and worthy of learning these things. That person has been Jennifer to me time and time and time again to remind me you can learn this and she'll sit there with me as I have my flipping temper tantrum about I don't want to learn this and I don't know how to do this and she'll let me show you again.

I'm going to show you how to do it. And I always do. I just have to get through honestly what has been a struggle my entire life, which is a lack of confidence. And I know I'm not alone there. I know there are other women, especially listening, who they have that lack of confidence. They don't believe that they can make an impact or they don't believe that things can change or, you know, insert idea there. And you can. I promise you that you can. You can learn how to do new things that are going to not just benefit you,

like in your business, but just in your life overall. So systems and organizations was something that did not come natural to me in any way. And in the last two years, we have really implemented them. And I cannot tell you the freedom that I have found with having systems and organizations. Now, when I have those conversations with the founder of Brave Like McKenna, and we've had meetings or whatever, I can immediately say, that's fine if we do that,

but we need this workflow. And her brain works like Jennifer's. And so it's so interesting, the people that you end up surrounding yourself with. But now I'm the one saying, oh yeah, that sounds like a fantastic idea, but we're going to see how that thing can be done that can continue to serve us well. And so we're not doing it over and over and over again, but we've created a workflow to where it can continue to be infused in the business and work for us. But that was a skill that I had to learn.

That was an attitude shift that I had to have that I would not have if I was not surrounded not only now just by Jennifer, but the people within the roadmap truly to just remind myself, like I see these women in there doing amazing things. And the interesting thing is, is that they think that they're coming in because we can help them and we can. I mean, let's be real, but we're learning so much, too. Like it is truly an amazing community. That is we're learning alongside each other.

We've just recently done a training all on ClickUp. So we're training all the people in the roadmap on ClickUp. We're doing like work sessions and teaching them how to use this thing that has been so life changing for us. And I think that it's impactful to show up in a group like that and say, I am not 100% sure how to do this. And so I want to learn more. And we're all going to learn together. And I think that that's really, really powerful to surround yourself with people who are in the same boat as you and learning and they want to grow and they want to make an impact. They want to show up differently.

And they want their time to be used really efficiently because I have three kids and my husband has a very demanding job. And so a lot of the kid stuff does fall on me. I am the one who gets them to school and picks them up every day. That's what I want to do. That's why I do this job is so I can continue to show up in that way in my family. And so by having systems, by having some organization, by having some belief and by surrounding myself with a community of people who I not only get to pour into, but

they also get to pour into me probably more than they even realize, it allows me to feel at the end of the day, like I truly made this huge impact. And then what it does is, you know, outside of work hours, when I'm going to a PTO meeting or I'm going to a Brave like McKenna meeting, I get to show up there and I get a pour into them as well with the skill sets and the things that I've learned in my day job as a blogger. So blogging is about so much more than SEO and traffic and revenue. And sure, all of those things are important. I mean, you've listened to hundreds of episodes here that like we talk about that stuff, but I just, I don't want it to be lost on anybody. The greater impact

that could be had by deciding to start a blog and the gifts that you have and the skills that you're strengthening as you sit down at your computer each day, as you create content, as you communicate with your readers, as you say, hey, there's this new thing, I want to figure that out. What you're doing is you're just like strengthening that muscle of I can figure it out. And that gets to show up in the rest of your life. And so I think that blogging can be a huge confidence builder because a lot of you are starting just like we did

all on our own. And you're building this thing from the ground up and you're doing the stuff. the ground up and you're doing the stuff and you're the only one that's excited about it likely in the beginning. You're the only one that's believing in yourself in the beginning. But then as things start to kind of like snowball, then you start to build that confidence that is so awesome to watch blossom in a way that then you get to go out and use it in the world for good.

Yeah, and we're all such multifaceted people. We all have so many things that we want to do that we're excited about that we want to offer our helping or we want to grow and so I think just giving yourself the gift of learning these skills and the gift of starting to understand prioritization and project management. I don't think if you had implemented those, you would even have the time to be able to do these other things that you're now able to do. So it's all such an important part of that bigger picture and being able to, again, go back to having that impact that you will have by starting your blog.

Yeah. So, okay, let's just ask one final question here. What advice would you give someone who is just starting their blogging journey but wants to make the most of the skills they're learning? I would focus on one skill at a time. And that first skill would need to be just understanding how to set up a website and the foundation there. There are a lot of things as a blogger or a content creator that you're going to be

told that you need to learn and sure in time, yes, you need to know those things. I'm not going to lie to you, but Rome was not built in a day and neither are you. And so I think that you just have to say, okay, I need to build my blog first. That's the most important piece. I need to learn that tech side. Even if that feels like the least exciting thing that I want to do, just get it done. Do that piece first. And then what next? Like what is the next thing you're going to focus on? And a lot of times we tell people that's email marketing. Like focus on your email marketing, building your email list, setting up your welcome sequence,

knowing how to communicate with people who are signing up. But it truly is like one thing at a time. So don't think that you're going to like grow traffic, grow your email list and grow your social media following all in one day, even all in one month, maybe not even all in one year. I hate to say that to anybody who's like, what? But it's true. Like you have to have a singular focus because I'm sure you've heard the quote, you can do

anything you want, but you cannot do everything. Because if you do everything, what's going to happen, and we know from experience, is that you're going to burn yourself out. You're going to wake up and you're going to hate what you're doing and you're not going to find the joy in it. You're not going to find the purpose in it. And so if you allow yourself the time and energy it takes to do something and do it well and then once you have the confidence there, okay, what can I add next?

And that's what I'm going to do next. And then build that, okay, now I can add it next. Because what are you doing? You're essentially creating a system and you're creating a workflow. And that is going to help you immensely, not just in like growing your blog or supporting a foundation or creating something else that you want or supporting an organization. But it's also just going to allow you time in your day and your calendar to also rest, which I think is really important and something that as entrepreneurs is a little hard for

all of us. But it is important to not like constantly be doing, doing, doing, doing, doing. And you can very, very easily get in that trap. And in, in this industry, you can easily get in that trap that like, I got to do more, got to do more, got to do more. You don't have to do more. You just need to be patient with yourself to be a beginner and learn and trust the process. That's the best advice I could give you. This is not a quick thing to build. Give yourself time, give yourself years because you're going to need that in order to be successful. But along those years, I think like you're just planting those seeds all along the

way that then one day you're going to look back and you're going to be like, I have learned so much and I didn't even realize how much I was learning along the way. And you're going to have the ability to look back and be incredibly proud of yourself and then ask yourself, what's next? What can I do with this? And how can I show up differently in the world? I think people are going to feel so inspired by this episode just to know that they can be a beginner and to know the impact that all the skills that they learn in blogging can have in their life, no matter what it is they might want to do. And so if you would, I'm going to let you close us out and just tell them how, if they

have more questions about what you've been up to or if they want more help, how they can get in touch. Yeah, sure. So you can reach out to me. My email is love your body well blog at gmail.com. You can reach out to me there. And if you want to check out the foundation, maybe pediatric cancer has impacted you or someone that you know, you can check out brave like McKenna that's mckena.org. And yeah, if that is something that is on your heart as well, feel free to reach out and chat with me about that. The email for that

is brave like McKenna at gmail.com as well. So thanks for listening today. I hope that I have inspired you in some way just to believe in yourself a little bit and if you want our help with that We'd love to have you in the roadmap the ultimate blog roadmap it truly is a community that I'm so thankful to be a part of and New people who come in feel the same. It's an awesome community of Support you're going to learn a lot But you're going to be encouraged and supported.

And we would just really love to have you in there. Whether or not your blog is set up, whether or not you are just still considering it, we can help you from start to finish. But we can also support you if you are an established blogger as well with like monthly trainings, monthly Q&A's and ways that you can just connect and collaborate with others. So that is the best way to honestly just stay in touch with Jennifer and I is to join our membership there and allow us to just be part of your journey too. And so we can support you as well. So thanks for tuning in today. Yeah. Thanks, Amy. This was fantastic. Thanks for listening to the Ultimate Blog Podcast. If you'd like to learn more about building your blog, visit theultimateblogpodcast.com backslash newsletter to get signed up for our email newsletter. If you enjoyed this episode, we'd love for you to share it with a friend, subscribe and

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