The Underworld Podcast - Bootlegging All Over the World: Illegal Brews from North Korea to Pakistan
Episode Date: August 15, 2023The term ‘rumrunning’ might be associated with Prohibition-era goons in the American Midwest. But bootlegging is alive and well today, and this week’s episode goes from Sean’s surprising disco...very in western India, to a booze-inspired political execution in Pakistan, a Scot in Saudi shackles, homemade soju in Kuwait—and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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night in Ahmed, a city of around
6 million people in the Indian
state of Gujarat and I'm off for a
drink. Except, alcohol
is strictly forbidden here, so I'm
getting it from a bootlegger.
Wait, when is he going to come?
Now. All right, right.
What is he won?
That's about 20 US dollars, right?
Actually, that's me messing up the exchange.
It's actually around 50 bucks,
which is pretty stratospheric for a bottle of Johnny Walker.
But this is what happens when you're relying on the black market for your red label,
even if it's quicker and more seamless than a DoorDash delivery.
Of course, this is nothing particularly edgy.
Residents rely on modern-day rum runners to get a buzz on in cities from Tehran
to Timbuktu every day.
But while Amdabad is named for a 15th century Sultan,
Gujarat's prohibition has nothing to do with Islam.
In fact, it's a hangover of the fight for independence from Britain.
And in particular, the later life aphorisms are the state's most famous son, Mahatma Gandhi.
And from this thick web of bootleggers to organise crime, deadly homebrew,
and even communal violence, it's got a lot to answer for.
Welcome to the underworld podcast.
Hey guys, welcome to a brand spanking new episode of the show that I'm Threads, the homespun of criminal activity all around the world.
I'm Sean Williams, a reporter based at El Tiro in New Zealand, and I'm joined by a documentarian, soundscaper, an all-round good egg, Danny Gold in New York City.
How about those damn Yankees, am I right?
Yeah, not a good season, but also very poetic intro.
Like, probably the best we've had in some time.
Well, I've had a lot of time to work. It's been a while.
So, uh, if you've been tuning in regularly late, you know,
we've kind of started and sputtered a bit with our comeback and we're sorry for that guys.
It turns out contract negotiations are terrible and I think I speak for us both when I say we'd
never want to do them ever again.
But I think we've figured this thing out.
We're going to be writing a hell out of scripts for the rest of the year, which is great.
And we're not letting up on the bonuses either.
We've got merches ever.
And we might even be doing some extra cool stuff around video soon too.
So in the words of a great man, we have had and are bounced, bouncing back and we will
bounce forward. I'd be amazed if the Americans get that reference, but the Brits are going to love it.
Yeah, I mean, I've no idea what that is in reference to. But yeah, underworldpod.com, the website
for the merch stuff, patreon.com slash the underworld podcast for $5 a month or on iTunes. You can get the
bonus stuff. And yeah, man, it really has been forever since we did one of these together.
Yeah. Things were not working out. But yeah. But now they might be. And honestly, I can't do it
again. So definitely we need like a big promo stunt or something. Like, I don't think legally,
we can tell you guys to go graffiti,
listen to the Other World podcast on billboards and in bar bathrooms.
But if that did happen,
I wouldn't be opposed to it.
I just don't think we can encourage that.
We can't encourage you.
We can't encourage you to do all of those things every day.
No, we can't do that at all.
So you just heard me picking up some whiskey on the road
from my last big report trip in India.
And while I do think prohibition in India is really fascinating
because I'm basically a nerd,
and also because I had no idea of Gujarat.
at, a state of some 70 million people, by the way.
It was dry before I set off there, which was a big, annoying moment.
This show is going to be a bit of a bootlegging menagerie with tails far beyond the
States and Capone to some niche of booze peddling tales you've probably never heard before.
Yeah, you know, I was in a, I'm trying to the last time I was in a dry state,
and the time I really remember was I was in Cartoon and Sudan in, like, 2006.
And I think, you know, it was dry.
And the secret was that you were supposed to go to a Chinese restaurant and ask for tea in a teapot.
And that was code for how to get booze.
But I've also like, you know, in the Middle East and East Africa,
I've had my fair share of like bootleg Johnny Walker.
That's called like Orange Label or Jimmy Walker or something like that, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, have you never been to a British pub?
Because we always order beer by saying, can I have tea and a teapot?
That's just how we do it there.
And also, speaking of cartoon, I was supposed to go there years and years ago,
probably around the same time.
And I heard that there was a British Embassy club called the Pickwick Club,
where there was some link to James Bond or something
where James Bond had been inspired by it or something like that
so maybe that's still a thing
possibly not now that it's literally under bombing attack
right now but anyway
we've got in this show we've got coming up a bunch of bootlegging history
right we've got a bit of America
a Scott in Saudi Arabia
the most perilous brewery in the world
Iranian Armenian Raki runners North Korean diplomats
and how prohibition and bootlegging brought about
an execution and military coup in Pakistan.
So that's a lot of info packed into one episode.
But let's start with the basics, right?
There are 11 countries worldwide that have blanket bans and alcohol.
And you could probably have a decent shot in naming at least half of them, I reckon.
You want to have a quick go?
That's not rhetorical.
Well, Sudan.
I know Bruce's band in Gaza, because my fixture once was like,
how do you not smoke a bottle of whiskey?
And I didn't.
I felt bad about it.
Brune, right? Maybe Pakistan? I mean, that's pretty much all I got.
Yeah, yeah, you got a few of them. Yeah, you got Pakistan, Sudan, Saudi, Somalia, Mauritania, the Maldives, Libya, Iran, Kuwait, Brunei, and Bangladesh.
And Afghanistan's not on the list, weirdly enough.
Although I can't imagine the Taliban are too thrilled about locals knocking back moonshine on the Friday night.
Yeah, you might want to check the date on that list you have because I feel like it's probably needs to be updated.
Yeah. And I don't have to tell you what those nations are.
in common, right? But I've had a beer
myself in two of those countries, and I know
plenty of folks getting pissed in the others.
Yeah, the Maldives people go there for like
their honeymoon, right? It's got to be one of those things where in
the Western, like Dubai, like in the Western
Hotel is where I'm sure you can get plenty of booze
and things like that. Yeah, in Dubai, there's
a law where you can
get a pub erected there, but it
has to officially be attached
to a hotel, and there's one bar
that I used to go to in Dubai that had
like a tunnel underneath the pub
that technically ended
in a hotel.
So they kind of flattered the rules,
which is kind of funny.
But anyway,
pub quiz fact,
the first recorded beer rationing
was detailed in ancient Babylon
in the code of Hammurabi,
which is one of the most amazing artifacts of Loove,
oldest set of known laws in the world.
And it decreed according to history.com.
So let's hope this is correct.
Quote,
a daily beer ration to citizens.
The drink was distributed
according to social standing.
Labor has received two liters a day,
while priests and administrators got five.
at the time the drink was always unfiltered and cloudy, bit of sediment would gather at the bottom of the drinking vessels, special drinking straws were invented to avoid the muck.
I mean, it's almost 10 pints a day really a ration. It sounds like more of a target to me. It's like darts or Glastonbury levels of boozing, it's pretty nuts.
Now, the actual word bootlegging itself, of course, doesn't come into use up until the 1880s in the American Midwest.
And it describes the act of hiding flas of liquor in boot tops when heading off to trade with native.
Americans. Now, obviously, bootlegging doesn't truly come into its own until 1920, and that's when
the 18th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution prohibits alcohol sale across the country until it's repealed
13 years later in 1933. But there's like, there's bootlegging right, where booze is illegal
and you bring it in, and then there's bootlegging right where it's like moonshine, you know,
like bootlegic, right? That's two different things, right? Yeah, yeah, there's like, there's bootlegging
and there's bootlegging, right? There's, there's kind of like all sorts of different kinds of the
thing. And of course, I mean, that amendment didn't actually stop anyone drinking, right? It just
drove the whole thing underground. And you get the phenomenon of mobsters up and down the states,
making billions on the black market for booze, moonshineers making illicit drink at dark,
or under the moons shine, no apocryphal background for that word. Here's a recipe for
bathtub gin. Tell me if it gets your mouth watering. So, first of all, you get a still and
ferment a mash of corn sugar or fruit, beets, or even potato pills to make high,
with alcohol, yum, yum.
And then you mix it with glycerin.
That's a compound made from vegetable oil or animal fat.
And you give a dash of juniper oil for flavor, but the taste is relative, right?
This stuff is still like 80% proof or something.
So you water it down by half because the big fat bottles you're brewing is slopping are too
big to fit under the tap or full sit, sorry Americans in the kitchen sink.
You've got to dilute it in the bath, hence bathtub gin.
I mean, I'd mix it with Vermuth and Campari and like have a night, you know,
Not picky.
Yeah, those are easy to get a hold of.
Now, if you're tending bar in a fancy speakeasy,
you might add bitters or soda or fresh fruit.
There's your cocktail, Danny.
But it's pretty much like sticking lipstick on a pig, right?
This stuff is rocket fuel.
Authority sees almost 700,000 steals from 15,700 distilleries from 1921,
only until 1925.
And that is an incredible number of them,
considering the entire population of America is barely 110.
million at this point. And of course, there are tons of loopholes, like the fact that licensed
doctors can prescribe whiskey and other distilled spirits. And rabbis and priests are allowed to use
wine for religious ceremonies, of course, which extends to something called a catchal
minister of the gospel, meaning you don't actually have to be dog collared to get your hand on
a nice pino. Then there's the quote, home win loophole.
Quote, the head of a family who is properly registered may make 200 gallons of wine.
exclusively for family use without payment of tax they're on.
And that means that families can make, but not sell or move, of course,
around 1,000 bowls of wine per year or 2.7 per day for home consumption,
which is, and I probably don't need to say this, quite a lot of wine.
Oh, also a little trivia.
You know, I'm working on this project about the Mafia, Milwaukee.
And apparently the Mafia organized crime in Milwaukee didn't get
big. In Wisconsin
general didn't get big or rich off
Prohibition because the area was so
heavily German that people
were just brewing beer on their own. There were all
these like home distilleries.
And it wasn't really strictly enforced either
because it was such a part of the culture that
the organized crime aspects in that
state at that time just like didn't make a ton
of money off Prohibition like elsewhere, like Chicago
or you know, Detroit, New York.
Ah, that's cool. And as an even
neat a segue, I think for the Patreon
we've got an episode, like a bonus show off the back of this one, about a female run runner in Madison, Wisconsin, who was like really, really interesting as well.
So I think we're going to bring that out like a day after this comes out.
But anyway, there's tons of fascinating bits about prohibition came about.
And we're going to go into the Germanic stuff here, right?
So first off, there's piggyback in on women's suffrage.
And then there's the rejection of so-called Germanic beer during the First World War.
and then there's a bunch of nerdy evangelicals thrown in as well.
But yeah, that's going to come in the bonus.
Alongside someone that I just mentioned, she's called Jenny Justo.
So watch out for that one, guys.
That should be out to more, I think, as you're listening to this.
So while we're staying in Prohibition America, though,
one thing you might know, and I didn't know how common knowledge this is,
but it's widely thought that NASCAR, which for non-Americans is like hyper-powered stock car racing,
might have come from the souped-up vehicles run runners used to outgun cops with shady liquor in the trunk.
This is from the Mob Museum's website.
Even before Prohibition came to an end in 1933,
racing these high-performance cars became a popular pastime
among the runners in North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee, Georgia and elsewhere in the south.
They raced each other's cars, many of them Ford models,
on weekend afternoons out in the country on makeshift dirt tracks.
Such were the bootlegger routes of the stock car
and what would evolve into the National Association for Stockcar Auto Racing or NASCAR, of course, in 1947.
That's pretty interesting.
Is that like common knowledge, Danny?
The people know about this?
Is that like a thing?
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's like common knowledge, but I feel like I've heard that before.
That's how like NASCAR got started.
That's super interesting.
That makes sense.
If you're listening to a show about organized crime, of course you're going to know all about Capone, Valentine's Day massacre in 1929.
the outcry and the repeal of prohibition in 1933.
There's no need to go into that here.
But back to India now.
So my dude on the moped selling Johnny Walker.
Part of the United States prohibition was claimed to stem domestic and sexual violence against women,
and that is actually how the issue is still framed in large parts of India today.
Gujarat is one of four Indian states alongside Bihar, Mizoram and Nagaland to outlaw alcohol.
And if you listen to my bonus with Rohitkana recently about the brewing civil war
in Manipur. You'll know where these places are, so you should listen to that.
The Constitution of India also allows for the ban stating that it shall
endeavor to bring about prohibition of the consumption except for medicinal purposes
of intoxicating drinks and of drugs which are injurious to health.
Oh my God, I'm reciting so many of these wordy, like, constitutional stuff.
Anyway, technically, you can get a drink legally in Amdabad.
If you're active military serving in one of those many conflicts in there is
fighting. You can get pissed
as much as you want.
Is that why they're always
brawling with the Chinese soldiers on top of that
mountain? Sticks and knives
with home brewing cups
of tea. Just getting hammered
and get into a fist fight for
an international incident in 18,000 feet
elevation? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's right.
You can have that as fact.
You can also get a permit, right?
But that ain't easy or
cheap. So first you get an authority like
a hotel to sign a bit of paper saying you're
you. I may have tried this, by the way, guys. Then you take that to an official in a little
booth who will take you through the painstaking process to get a license. Then after a few more
stamps and signatures, really like Indians love bureaucracy almost as much as Germans, you can buy
alcohol from a state license store, which is often hidden underground in a way from view.
So in my case, I went to this one that was in the back of a parking lot. It was so weird.
The whole thing feels like joining a mafia poker game and a decent bottle of scotch will set you back
60 quid, which is a king's ransom in a city where the average annual salary hovers somewhere
around a grand. So drinking legally is only for the wealthy. Now, temperance, interestingly,
gathers pace under Mahatma Gandhi, who became something of a conservative moralist in later life,
something that if you've seen the Richard Anbury movie from 1982, doesn't really get a look
in amongst all the aphorisms and homespun clothes, just like the celibacy test he carried out on
himself after his wife's death by sleeping in a bed with young naked.
women. You don't hear a lot about that, eh?
Yikes. Anyway, alongside
celibacy, Gandhi was a keen prohibitionist,
and he claimed that liquor was a quote,
invention of the devil. It was often
framed then, as it is today in India,
as this domestic violence issue.
Here's Gandhi again. The drink habit
destroys the soul of man and tends to turn
him into a beast, incapable of distinguishing
between wife, mother, and sister.
That is a wild, wild quote.
When you really
think of it, like, I didn't realize it the first time I heard it,
now I'm like, that is, I don't know what he was drinking or how much of, like, whatever it was,
but that's not, that's not normal.
I drank a lot and that's never, it's never happened to me.
That entire situation that he describes is never something that has crossed my mind.
And like, I don't know, you know, I have two glasses of red wine, two and a half glasses.
I'm like the most pleasant and charming I can be.
I mean, three, three and a half things get a little south, but never, never incapable
distinguishing between.
They have bad news for a female family.
Yeah, never incapable of distinguishing.
between wife, mother and that is the worst.
I'm like, I'm appalled.
Anyway, let's keep it going.
Yeah, I kind of wanted to keep all this stuff in because I think people need to hear how
much for weirdo Gandhi actually was beyond the Ben Kingsley stuff.
Anyway, the British can of course shoulder some blame for this.
Mugel Indians reeled at the drunken antics of British sea dogs who washed up on the
shores in Madras, Bombay and Calcutta.
That's amazing.
I mean, it's great to know that even back in the day, just drunken Brits were
overseas, causing mayhem and just acting like a backward step in evolution, even in like the
wilds.
There's like loads of stuff in the books about the time of the absolute nightmares.
This was, of course, a time of high refinery in the palaces of Mughal emperors, and the British
were just seen as these uncultured, heavy drinking, hard shagging louts, something that's
totally changed over time.
Yeah, I mean, maybe, but probably perhaps.
Anyway, Gujarat's had its ban since 1960, and that's when it was created out of the Raj era, Bombay State.
And while it's pretty much impossible to imagine a bombembae without its hard drinking, Bollywood party nightlife,
thundering Amdabad barely has any bars, by the way, the one at my hotel had pictures of beer and wine,
but it only served Pepsi and fruit juices, which is tragic.
Of course, that doesn't stop folks drinking.
It's a readiest piece from way back in 2002, quote,
Some say the annual turnover of the trade is 100 million rupees, that's like millions and millions of dollars,
and it involves people from across the spectrum, right, from the poor Adavassis to senior politicians and bureaucrats.
The huge amount involved, all of it unaccounted for, means that Gujarat today cannot ever afford to lift prohibition.
There's just too much money and too many reputations involved.
Prohibition suits everyone, even as it corrods the Gujarati society, by spawning corruption, while emasculate,
the police and compromising the system.
And the print, another publication, says basically, that it's a really well-old network.
The spirits are smuggled in from adjoining states.
The process is lubricated with bribes to police and other senior officials.
And they say, no wonder the punitive system doesn't work.
Every year, thousands of prohibition violations cases are registered, but conviction rates are low,
which indicates, surprise, surprise, a lack of motivation to enforce the law.
Between 1999 and 2009, the conviction rate.
was a mere 9%.
So, basically, everyone's getting their palms lined and no one gives a shit.
The WHO estimates that half of all alcohol consumed in India is unrecorded and part of the
black market.
I mean, that is a country of 1.4 billion people.
And that means hooch, and that means death.
Last July, for example, illicit liquor killed over 200 people in three Gujarati cities
alone.
During the pandemic, there was a trend of poor people in the state,
in on sanitary wipes, which don't Instagram your crimes guys, but definitely don't suck on an
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I remember reading something years ago about how, you know, a big problem and like, I think it was poor rural areas of Russia, somewhere in the north.
And, you know, sort of using products that are alcohol, not for drinking as ways to get hammered.
And there was one where like people were dying from drinking some sort of fuel or gasoline.
And it was like, it was a freezing cold area.
and what they would do is they would pour it like a long metal,
like a metal sheet or something metal.
No,
it was that cold thinking that like all the impurities,
then on alcohol would freeze to the metal.
And then whatever was left would just be pure alcohol.
And then get hammered off that.
And it was just like,
you're just killing people.
Do you follow the Instagram account?
Look at this Russian.
This is just incredible stuff.
Just reminds me of them.
Yeah,
I've seen some stuff up there.
Look,
we all got our rednecks doing silly stuff,
you know,
but they got some good ones over there.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of them friends with bears.
I respect anyone who can become friends with a bear, you know?
Fair enough.
Yeah.
So you take the rough with this move, right?
So,
yeah.
Prohibition, it screws the poor.
That's what we're saying.
It creates this entire criminal network.
And it actually doesn't boost the economy elsewhere
or even stop people suffering from alcohol dependency.
So nice work, Gandhi.
He did a lot of good.
But this is only one...
Actually, this is that...
Dude, you got a...
You got the mission of this podcast.
There's like shit on Gandhi.
Yeah, we've got...
You just said 1.4 billion people
and you're just insult, dude, I'm not, I'm not with, I'm anti, I'm anti, Sean, I'm pro, I'm pro,
Gandhi. Don't listen, our Indian listeners, listen to us, don't listen to Sean, I'm here supporting
you. I know, I've got caught up in my hay at the red coats and I've ended up crapping on Gandhi.
Anyway, this is only one part of one country, right? Let's move across the Gujarat border into
Pakistan. This is super interesting. So where in fact, alcohol prohibition played a key role in one of the
biggest moments in history and why the country today is actually controlled by its military. So,
we're heading off to the mid-70s here,
when the country was ruled by a popular, somewhat raffish,
Berkeley and Oxford-educated barrister named Zulfiqar al-Buto.
But he actually swaps his several-row suits for Chalwar Camises,
and the electioneers in remote corners of the country
that no politician has ever bothered with before.
He promises a free press and Western liberties,
but in truth he gives neither,
and he rules like a classic European autocrat.
All of these things, of course,
enraged the nation's theocratic and military establishment.
Yeah, I really need to better understand that country and that time.
There's like a thing I'm chasing there for an episode in like the 70s and 80s that I just don't can't put put my head around because there's so much going.
Like it's just a crazy time period in that country.
I don't know.
I'd love to understand more.
But anyway, continue.
Yeah, I mean, this is when they're fighting Bangladesh as well, right?
It's just like insane what's going on in Pakistan back then.
Anyway, in 1977, Buto is under siege for a right-wing coalition called the Pakistan National Alliance.
or PNA and communists and generals in his own military, including this wily pencil mustache guy named
Muhammad Zia al-Hak. Now Zia launches a dirty war against Buto, pushing for Islamization.
In April 177, Buto decides to throw the conservatives a bone. He bans the sale of alcohol across Pakistan,
he bans nightclubs, bars, and gambling, and he changes the weekly holiday day from Sunday to the Islamic Day of Friday.
Now, he's partial to a drink himself.
Buto is accused of rank hypocrisy and he says, quote,
yes, I do drink alcohol, but at least I don't drink the blood of the poor.
Jesus, take it easy, Chief.
It's all a bit weird, like mixed messages.
And it's too late.
Zia makes his move in July that year.
He starts something he likes to call Operation Fair Play.
It's just a funny name.
And in fact, it's a bloodless coup d'utat.
Bouto is toppled and thrown in jail over charges of murder in a political opponent,
something almost all observers agree is complete BS.
Not coincidentally, Zia has the backing of the White House,
which is keen for him to fall closer ties to the Afghan Mujahideen across the border
as they're gearing up to kick out the Soviets.
Zia promises elections, but he never delivers,
and he stays in power for 11 years before he dies in a plane crash.
Buto spends 1977 to 79 in squalid conditions in a jail in Rao Pindi,
which is right next to Islamabad.
This is from India today, quote.
Buto, who was a near fetishist over personal hygiene and could dress like a dandy,
had developed boils and rashes all over his body at the time he wrote the letter.
His gums were swollen and bleeding.
Huss oozed from them.
He was reduced to groveling before the authorities for such basic amenities as dental equipment.
Now, on April 4, 179, Soviet troops are mounting in Afghanistan,
the Ayatollahs are setting into the rule in Iran.
Buto is hanged.
His last words,
Oh Lord, help me for I'm innocent.
That's better than like, you know, it's cold or I'm scared.
1979.
It's just like one of the craziest years in world history, right?
That Billy Corgan really knew what he was talking about.
Yeah, I mean, I'll work in some Stone Temple Pilots reference for the next episode.
Don't worry.
Jesus.
Yeah.
Anyway, Buto's ban has been in place ever since.
But much like its neighbor, India,
bootlegging is rife.
Here's the New York Times in 2016, quote,
the Muslims in Pakistan drinking alcohol is prohibited,
and talking about it is taboo.
Drinking and denying it is the oldest cocktail in the country.
And another one, quote,
it's true that most people in Pakistan don't drink because they're Muslim,
but many more don't drink because they're Muslim and poor.
Nobody abstains from drinking because it's prohibited by law,
but that's a pretty neat piece.
And actually, you talk to my in-laws,
performer in-in-laws in Raupindi.
That is definitely the case.
Anyway, I know they don't listen to this, so that's fine.
Drinks get into Pakistan from two major sources.
One is vodka from Chinese mules and mopeds across the frozen northern mountain borders.
Yeah, if we get money, we're sending you on one of those trips.
Please, please do that.
The other is beer and scotch carried on ancient dows,
which are sailboats, loaded up on Gulf ports,
and docked in Pakistan's far west,
in the closed-off region of Balochistan.
which is its own episodes crazy,
writes Declan Walsh in a 2004 Guardian Peace quote,
In the capital of Islamabad's diplomats in some Central Asian
and African embassies are known to offer discrete takeaway service
from their diplomatic compounds in return for a hefty markup.
I mean, of course, like that happens in embassies all over the world, right?
But in 2010, the New York Times made a short doco called bootlegging Pakistan style,
which is great, it's on the reading list for this episode.
you guys should definitely check it out.
The Gerno heads up to Peshawar, which is capital of the region of Khyber Pactunwa,
which is at time controlled by the Taliban.
And if you're a bootlegger, peddling bottles of whiskey,
which are the favoured tipple of the rich, the diplomatic and the military classes,
well, you're screwed.
They're going to suit you on the spot.
So it's a pretty dangerous business, but by local standards, incredibly profitable.
Bootleggers in the Kaibok-Tunwa can make between 5 and 10,000 US dollars a year.
year, which is a giant amount of money there. The weirdest part of all of this is perhaps
how Pakistan, in fact, Raupindi, which is exactly where Zulfiqar Bhutto was executed almost
half a century ago, it's home to quote the most dangerous brewery in the world. The Murray
Brewery was found in 1861 to keep British troops lubricated, and it officially sells to the
Christians, Hindus and Zoroastrians who are allowed a small quota of alcohol in Pakistan.
And that's, according to the Declan Walsh piece, quote, in theory.
In reality, Murray products are selling curiously well, its gin, brandy and whiskey products are also doing well.
And all this is despite this phalanx of official restrictions.
And the explanation is simple, says Mr. Bandara, the CEO, the company.
99% of our customers are Muslim, loopholes again.
Muslims buying up Christian quotas and so on.
But none of it can never be as crafty as Murray's own.
slogan, eat, drink and
be Murray. That's pretty genius right
there. Pretty good, yeah, like that.
Staying in Pakistan, right, because this is a smoothly
scripted show with pro-level segways.
We're heading to 2007
in Islamabad, where the burglary of a diplomatic residence
raised suspicions that officials of
another nuclear arm nation
were moonlighting as bootleggers to get much
needed foreign currency.
Which country is that? Well, yeah,
of course, it's North Korea, right? Here's a news
wire piece from the time, quote,
2017, a burglary
at the residence of a North Korean diplomat
in Pakistan has raised
suspicion that the envoy might have been involved
in large-selt bootlegging.
Either that or the diplomat drinks a hefty
amount himself, as the burglars took
off with 10,000 bowls of whiskey,
beer and wine from Islamabad
residents, and it goes on.
In early October, the
residence of North Korean diplomat
Hionki Yong was broken into, I hope
I've got that right. He reported to the police
that burglars took off with two diamonds, several thousand US dollars, and a hefty hauled of liquor,
beer and wine. Police and witnesses said they brought three cars and a small truck to plunder
Hyun Ki-Yong's trove alcoholic drinks, which is worth more than $150,000 on the back market
in a country where it's illegal for Muslims to consume alcohol. If you've listened to our show
on North Korea, this is also nothing new, right? Pyongyang regularly uses its diplomatic core
to smuggle gold, counterfeit cash and even meth across the world to claw back a few precious bucks for the Kim regime.
In Kuwait, for example, North Koreans, diplomats and imported construction workers this time around
have been called distilling liquor in their apartments and selling it on the black market.
A practice that you may have guessed in tiny Kuwait is very, very illegal.
The liquor is called Siddiqui in Arabic, or my friend.
And it is distilled from rice and has a taste similar to the Korean liquor, which is no.
as Shochu. Around 40% alcohol by volume, the drink is typically mixed with water or
non-acolic beer. A liquor called my friend is actually, I mean, that's great. I would drink that
and soju is actually very underrated too. Soju is lovely, yeah. You get those like proper little
Isookai's in Tokyo. Oh my God. Now I'm getting flashbacks to good times. In North Korea
itself, booze isn't banned, but there are still bootleggers there who proliferated in the 1990s
during the country's devastating famine,
and like that famine was really, really awful,
when money ran out and food rations dwindled.
People bought food with the money earned
and also used the leftover mash from the moonshine process
to feed their livestock.
Raising pigs also became another side job for them.
Now authorities are searching homes for misuse of something else.
Corm, and that's according to a Radio Free Asia piece this March.
Quote,
many families in the neighbourhood living making moonshine,
which can be started easily with just 22 pounds of corn.
One household was caught using 66 pounds of corn as ingredients for moonshine
and family members had to write a clear letter of self-criticism.
But four households that bought more than 220 pounds of corn
were accused of being anti-socialists who helped fuel the country's food crisis
and were sentenced last week to more than a year in a correctional label campaign.
Man, when misuse of corn is a criminal offense,
you've got to just rethink your whole system.
Like, things aren't working out if that's like a big crime.
Things aren't working out in North Korea.
You heard it here first.
A year in a North Korea labor camp doesn't sound like much fun, of course.
But spare a thought on those caught bootlegging, not alcohol, but Western media.
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In 2021, a man who sold bootleg copies of the South Korean show Squid Game was executed
for anti-socialist activity by firing squad in front of 500 people, including his family
and friends, and they were made to watch from the front row, which is ironically, like one of the
scenes out of Squid Game, I guess. Modern bootlegging then is a thriving, if perilous trade. In Iran,
for example, booze is smuggled by members of the country's Armenian minority, which is kind of
coalesced into a roaring, organized underworld.
I've also like, isn't Iran supposed to have like a pretty amazing underground party scene too?
Yeah.
I imagine there's got to be booze there.
I know someone who's currently there and I can confirm.
I probably shouldn't say anything more than that.
You know, that's the thing with like these countries, right?
It's always people that are rich or like high society, even in these countries where it's dry,
like usually they have no problem getting booze and drinking.
Never.
Even in a really strict place like Iran or Sudan, like I'm sure the elites like at their
parties, they're boozing for sure, if probably a lot more stuff too.
Oh, 100%.
But like in fact, like really interesting in Iran, like their currency has gone through the
floor so badly that even the country's rich and famous struggle to afford Western liquor,
right?
And they have even themselves fall back on this homebrewed Iraq, which is like stuff that
the Armenians distill from raisins.
and it sometimes had deadly effects.
In 2020, as COVID rattled through the population and Tehran controlled access to information,
word got out, for example, that moonshine could cure corona.
The AP reported that that year, almost 500 people would die from alcohol poisoning
with the trend continuing until today.
This June, which is what, a couple of months back,
the head of Iran's forensic medical agency said that 644 people die from drinking tainted booze in 2022,
which is up 30% from the previous year.
So we steer clear of most political shit on this show,
but one thing is clear from all this research,
prohibition really does not work, least of all with alcohol.
But to close out this episode,
let's head from one Islamic republic to an Islamic monarchy, Saudi Arabia,
to the tale of a Scottish bootleggar who bit off a bit more than he could brew.
I spent a year living in the UAE,
and so for the first two months of that year,
work put me up in a pretty shit hotel.
Yeah, I mean, fuck, sorry, do that again.
I completely forgot.
I spent a year living in UAE like 12, 13 years back,
and for the first two months of that year,
work put me up in a pretty bad hotel.
Yeah, I forget you've lived like, I mean, Oklahoma, the UAE, New Zealand.
You're like a modern day adventure who only makes bad choices,
though I feel like New Zealand's pretty rad, I imagine.
Yep.
And then I'm saying.
in this hotel right in Dubai.
You could tell exactly who the Saudis in the hotel bar were, right?
Because they'd be laying about from the previous nights drinking,
scattered about as if they'd been on night-long benders,
when actually they were hammered after a couple of pints,
because they just weren't ever doing it.
Gordon Malak, he must have seen this trend and rubbed his hands back in 1978.
That is when he moves from his hometown of Avamore in the Scottish Highlands
to Riyadh the Saudi capital,
which then was a low-slung scratch home to just 900,000 people.
Now, by the way, it's 7 million.
What is it about this show in the late 70s?
Anyway, Gordon gets a job as a chef with a catering firm,
and that gives him this privileged access to high rollers and businessmen
all over the city of Riyadh.
Soon he's making moonshine at home,
selling it for use at secret desert parties attended by expats.
He's running a still from behind a fake wall in his villa,
but while there's a bunch of low-quality gin coming in from Bulgaria,
quote, the kind people would go blind from,
he tells the Scottish mail on Sunday.
He says,
I always stayed with a genuine article.
And for that, he means he gets access to good whiskey.
Not long after his arrival, Gordon hooks up with some suits on a break in Bahrain,
and they tell him they're looking to import high-quality name brands into the kingdom.
These guys had the capital to buy up to 400 to 600 cases at a time,
and I had the idea of bringing it into the country in generators, he later tells the daily record.
I was shipping out a quarter of a million dollars at time.
That's over a million bucks in today's money, not bad at all for a rum runner.
A whiskey is Gordon's big seller.
It's largely drunk at these desert secret parties arranged for these expats.
And for six years, he ships huge quantities of the stuff into Saudi hidden inside these electronic generators.
He says, I was a real entrepreneur because there wasn't any taste in.
quality before I arrived. I mean, Gordon's starting to make a feel like he's making the stuff.
Anyway, then his whole world comes crashing down. It was my last load into the country, he tells
the male. I've become too blasé. It was all very heavy-handed. They arrived and put guns to my head.
He's got 50 cases of whiskey at his place, so it's a fair cop. Gordon carries on. I was handcuffed
and manacled. Isn't that the same thing? And they shaved my head. They hummed me from a tree and my
handcuffs over a branch, they beat my feet which were barely touching the ground. After a few days,
the authorities bring Gordon to a cell of Malaz prison in Riyadh, where there are a hundred
prisoners inside one cell. Lucky old him, though, he gets out after 17 months of negotiations with
the British embassy without taking any lashes, which is a common punishment then, not to mention
getting your head carved. He tells media that he's, quote, very nostalgic for those days,
I made and spent two fortunes. What does Gordon do now? Well,
naturally he's a customs officer.
I don't know whether that's a good ending
for this show or a bad one, but
yeah, it will do.
Yeah, that was
well done, man. But yeah,
I guess that bonus, people can look forward to that.
Yeah, we're on.com, that's an hour podcast.
I don't know what we're going to do these in,
but if we do it, this one will be
first. I'll have something on the Zetas up next week.
Or you've already heard that. Who knows?
You know, the world is a magical place.
But yeah, I guess until next week, unless there's anything else you want to add.
That would do for now.
That'll do for now.
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