The Underworld Podcast - The Brutal Russian Mafia Wars of Tolyatti, Russia's Detroit
Episode Date: March 8, 2022In the 1980s, as the Soviet empire crumbled, organized criminals eyed up the sprawling VAZ automobile plant in the city of Tolyatti, “Russia’s Detroit.” When it collapsed all hell broke loose. O...ld-school “thimble kings” battled it out with bodybuilding skinheads, Chechen paramilitaries and the Volgas, partying hotheads who’d become a fearsome mob, for supremacy over one of Russia’s most fabled companies. It’d take hundreds of deaths and Kremlin SWAT teams to bring the bloodshed to an end. A story that we don’t think has been reported in English before, the Tolyatti Car Gang Wars are one of Russian crime’s bloodiest episodes. And given the terrible things they’re doing now, that says a lot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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April 13, 1998, in the city of Tolieti.
Workers at the city, known as Russia's Detroit because of the dominance of its
Lada Car Factory, are settling down to get hammered at a bar for veterans of the brutal Soviet
war in Afghanistan, where over 100,000 soldiers have served. Since the fall of the USSR, the
guys in Toliati have fought a different kind of war. From 1992, dozens, if not hundreds, of mobsters
have been dropped, often with battle-worn AK-47s by gangs that sprang into life under the
thawing years of Glasnost, and saw a chance to seize control of Russian.
industry when the Berlin Wall and communism fell apart.
A series of so-called racketeering wars have targeted sprawling Tolliety,
with warring factions from the local region and ethnic Tatars,
fighting to command every step of its massive production line,
from windscreen wipers and tires to trucks and even spare parts.
By 1998, three of these wars have exploded and died,
gunfights are daily occurrence and bodies tossed into the frozen waters of the near,
by a Bulga River.
Media who report on the violence are targeted, hunted down and killed.
The Kremlin, hobbled by corruption and poor leadership, is finally taking proper notice
of his motor city.
Public outcries at boiling point.
Even then, nothing's going to prepare Russia for the bloodletting that April evening, when a group
of masked, camouflaged men burst into the veterans bar and spray it with machine gunfire,
killing over a dozen men.
Days later, the same men kill mob boss Dmitri Ryskalayev,
aka Dima Bolshoi, or Dima the Great,
or Big Dima, depending on how WWE won't be.
He's the leader of the feared vulgar's criminal outfit
that's led much of the vicious fighting.
In seconds, the assailants have broken the backbone of Bolshoi's mafia
and laid waste to a third wave of the Toliati gang wars.
Dima the Great gets a Capo's burial
and a Toliati cemetery famed for its wild gang mottoes.
Local cynics, dubbed it the alley of heroes.
But in Moscow, there's no talk of legends.
The Veterans Bar Massacre is the latest embarrassment for a Kremlin
that's completely lost grip of its young nation to oligarchs, money laundering and rampant gang crime.
Internal Affairs Minister Anatoly Kolikov can't bear the heat anymore.
He assembles a crack team of anti-mafia cops and prepares for war,
over control of a factory and a city that have become icons of Soviet.
and Russian engineering might.
Welcome to the underworld podcast.
Hey guys, and welcome to a new edition of the show
that teaches you how you should never ask
how a thimble king made his first million rubles.
I'm your host Sean Williams,
and I'm joined as ever by my American colleague, Danny Gold.
We are two investigative journalists
who rip off the bark of the rotten tree of organized crime,
and we see which creepy crawlies come scurrying out.
I'm going to run out of visual metaphor soon,
but that's going to do for now.
I'm actually in a belief,
city hotel room.
You're in Austin, Texas.
I believe you come down
there's a producer on the Joe Rogan experience.
Are we ever going to meet in person?
I thought we were going to meet like in a few days.
Yeah, sorry about that, man.
You know, things happen.
Alex Jones needed me to be here and be his producer.
So, no, I'm not doing that.
None of those things are true.
And we should actually probably both be in Ukraine
covering the situation right there.
But for now, this,
we'll talk about this different
war,
mafia war,
and this podcast,
it'll have to do,
and I think it's actually
an amazing episode.
From what I understand,
this might be the first time
this has been reported in English,
no?
I think so, yeah.
Like,
I've not seen anything
about this stuff in English.
We got,
there's loads of, like,
I don't know,
feature articles and documentaries
and YouTube videos
in Russian,
but nothing.
Yeah, nothing to date.
Maybe, you know,
some editor wants to send us out,
but maybe it's going to be
a bit hard to get to Siberia at the moment.
And I guess I'm,
going to just give a caveat that I'm sitting in the corner of a Belize City Hotel and there's some
kids playing outside and there's all kind of noise. So sorry guys if you hear anything.
Sean's, if you heard our Belize episode, what's the story that Sean's doing? I'm actually
helping him with it, but I am not able to be there. It actually came out of that episode. So we're
pretty, we're pretty psyched on that and we'll let you guys know because that's going to get published.
It's kind of going to be big. But anyway, moving on.
Exciting stuff. Yeah. First thing, housekeeping.
We're always putting stuff up on the IG.
I just did a mini episode on the Patreon
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Yeah.
Yeah.
So we promised you something you'd never heard of a couple of weeks ago, right?
And unless you're Russian, and even then, if you're around 40 years old and from the Volga region,
you've probably never heard of the Toliati gang wars.
Which is surprising, really, given it, it played out in the death throes of the Soviet Empire
for control over one of its biggest companies.
And it claimed hundreds of life, like literally hundreds of life.
We actually don't know the full death toll because, like I said, at the top of the show,
tons of mobsters just dump bodies in the Volga itself.
And huge, massive kudos for this show goes out to listener Yevgini.
He's a Moldovan, which means we're best friends.
And he suggested this episode about like six weeks ago or something.
We love getting your emails.
And we've had, we're getting like tons of great ideas for shows.
So keep them coming.
Yeah, I think I'm definitely talking to a few people right now,
including a visit I've wanted to do for six months.
That hasn't worked out yet.
But hopefully it will.
And yeah, definitely do all the work for us.
We actually really love that as well.
Yeah, write the shows, cool.
I like to think of myself as a connoisseur on Wasting Time Wikipedia.
and I've been to Russia and I've reported there a few times,
but I'd never even heard of Tollieti before this show,
and that's pretty surprising,
given its home to over 700,000 people,
and one of the country's most iconic rivers.
It's right next to Samara, which is on the edge of Siberia,
not too far from the Kazakh border,
about 600 miles southeast of Moscow,
and today, pound for pound,
Tolieti is Russia's poorest city,
which, if you listen to the end of this pod,
you're going to know why.
Yeah, I mean, I've read travelogues and stories
about how rough and distressed areas are outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg and other big cities
can be, I think. But it might have focused on like rural areas. But either way, with that sort of
description, I'm really intrigued about this city and everything that's going on there.
Yeah, there's a couple of crazy YouTube videos where people go around this lake. It's rough.
So this is like a city that's bigger than Detroit, Boston, Liverpool, Lisbon, even Bissell.
And you've never even heard of it, right? Well, actually, neither are many Soviets until the 1960s.
before then it was an 18th century fortress called Stavropole,
a few nice administrative buildings,
your fav, Russian Orthodox Church,
with the little golden onions on top, you know.
It's a quaint little place.
And then in the 50s,
Stalin's Politburo put a giant dam nearby on the Volga,
creating a massive reservoir that kind of put the town on the map.
But in 1964, things really kick off.
That year, the Kremlin picked Stavropole
to be the site of its new Vaz automobile plant
in a hookup with Italian maker Fiat.
And suddenly this little scratch home to just like a few dozen thousand folks,
it becomes the Soviet Union's latest utopian workers' paradise,
full of giant projects and parks and busts of Lenin, all that other good stuff.
And the Soviets renamed their new Motown-on-Volga, Tolieti.
And that's after a guy named Palmyro Toliati,
that's the longest serving head of the Italian Communist Party.
Because Fiat, right?
And they even name a local football team FC Akron Toliati,
and they're a sister city of Flint, Michigan, and Wolfsburg.
Wolfsburg, can't believe I said that.
Volsburg, home to the largest factory in the world, and that's the Volkswagen one.
And this place, it just tees off, right?
Vaz builds giant trucks and stuff, but in 1970, the first Lard car rolls off the production line.
That's the Giguli sedan.
I'm probably saying that wrong.
Two in blue, four in cherry color, gross, horrible cars.
And, like, countries across the iron curtain are laughed at in the west for how shit these things are.
like Ugo's and Scodas,
Trebants, Honchis.
But Lard actually does all right.
It's a bargain basement
and markets itself as just that.
I actually remember growing up in the UK,
loads of families around me had Lardas
and they were terrible,
but working class people could actually have fooled them
and they were the butt of the jokes too.
Here's one.
The guy walks into a Lada dealer
and asks the salesman,
can I get a windscreen wiper for my Lada?
Salesman says, yeah, seems like a fair swap.
Good?
Yeah.
I got, oh, okay, that was.
half a life. Here's one more. How'd you
double the value of a Lada? Filled a tank.
These are not bad. They're better than your usual jokes,
I've got to say. I'm taking that as a massive slight.
But of course,
the vast majority of these little tin boxes, they're getting sold across the USSR,
right? Closed economy, no tariffs.
But the foreign success of Lada
and Toliati is a major boost for the Soviet setting into the
70s and 80s. The economy's struggling.
Chernobyl's wiping billions, if not
trillions from Moscow's budget.
and the Soviet-Afghan war, which they likened to Vietnam,
is an absolute disaster.
79 to 89, hundreds of thousands of dead,
no progress whatsoever,
Mujahideen ambushes,
Soviets hiding bombs in kids' toys to blow up Afghan children.
Like, that actually happened.
In these dark times,
foreign exchange to Moscow is like gold dust,
and Lada is a Russian icon.
So that makes it a pretty mouth-watering prospect
for gangs in 80s Russia, right?
with money draining out of the economy's ass, people in Toliati struggling to get by.
In fact, this happens all over the empire,
with mobsters kind of lay in the groundwork with what will become the loyalist 1990s.
Basically, there's a whole generation of grizzled old Afghan war vets
who are short in the Soviet Union, and it pays off.
And in Toliati, it's not just Lada potentially up for grabs.
Each bit of this massive company has its own factory, brand, production line, even city district.
definitely want to do an episode too, like speaking of all this stuff on the like the
illumining wars, you know, and all the sort of oligarch battles that happened in Russia.
It really is just like a fascinating element.
But also I think I want to point out if I'm not mistaken, I think it comes from Misha Glennie's
book, Mick Mafia, which we reference a lot.
He kind of talks about how the mafia soldiers, right, where the vets became the mafia soldiers
as opposed to the kingpins, no?
Yeah.
Yeah, I remember reading that.
Um, interestingly, I've been in touch with Michigan.
I think I'm going to get him on the show.
So that'll be cool.
Oh, dude, he is like the epitome of the OG, right?
Yeah, of what we want to be.
Yeah, his book's incredible.
Yeah, it's amazing.
Says the Russian magazine Diletton, quote,
criminal gangs quickly realized that the Enterprise, that's Lada, was a real El Dorado.
In Soviet times, no one dared to crush it for themselves.
And pay attention here because there are a few of these gangs in 1980s toliati.
one of them is called the Napanikovskia,
named after it's founder Vladimir Vodvind,
nicknamed Napanik, or the partner.
These guys first make money believe it or not
make their illicit cash running Thimbles games,
which is basically the shell game,
an ancient scam, you get someone to guess
which are three shells, a ball is under,
you obviously do them over, right?
Like proper end of the pier, circus clown stuff,
but apparently in one single city in southern Russia,
this is enough for like gangsters to make a few quid from.
I mean, I don't know, maybe.
It's three card Monty, right?
Like the same thing?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
But also, I want to say, uh, the partner, great nickname for a mafioso.
Yeah.
The partner is good.
And it's like something out of like a,
I can't say his fucking name.
Yeah.
It's like something out of a Tarantino movie, you know, like I'm going to see the partner.
Yeah, we've got a few of these.
We got a few of these.
So another two old school racketeers at the time.
of Vladimir Agi or Agi, and Alexander Voronetsky,
who formed the brilliantly titled Aggie Voronetsky gang.
I mean, seriously, man, Russian mob names.
They can't light a fart to the Glasgow ones
we went through a few weeks back.
You're doing pretty well on pronunciations,
I've got to say, it really makes up for me being terrible.
But, like, what is this phrase couldn't light a fart?
I've never even heard that before.
Like, who says that?
I don't even know where that came from.
Is that a phrase?
Maybe it exists.
Maybe you send it back.
Anyway.
Yeah, yeah.
And then in Toliati, right, they're a younger guys.
A major new gang in the city is the Volgovskia, or Volga's for short,
named after a nearby hotel and, of course, the river.
The groups led by a duo named Alexander Masloff and Vladimir Carapetian.
Don't worry about the names too much.
I'll make sure you remember them by the end.
The Volgas, they're kind of the mad upstarts of this show,
and they would eventually become known as some of 1990s Russia's most violent and durable mobsters.
And that's really saying something, right?
Because weren't there thousands of mafia murders a year during that time?
Oh, yeah.
Plenty of them are going to get dropped as well.
But for now, they're ambitious kids.
And they meet up regularly at the Volga Hotel's ground floor bar.
They get wasted and they plot to take over little Toyetti.
Or big Toyati.
They call themselves the quote, boys from the bar, but they're really serious stuff.
Another name that I like.
Yeah, it's pretty good, huh?
They break off into smaller, more nimble groups to play.
plot their campaign and they actually enlist the help of a boxer and a former special forces soldier
for advice on how to combat their potential enemies.
And then there's a fourth major outfit in Tolliatty called the Podarskv.
Podarkovskyer.
Podarkovskyer.
And that's led by a bodybuilder named Oleg Koreshev, aka the Gift.
Now, that nickname might not be quite as immodest as it sounds.
Gift in German means poison.
I think it means the same in Russian.
I may be wrong, but Koreshav could actually be the same.
the poison but that's pretty cool too.
Yeah, I think
Glennie also talks about how a lot of these
mobsters or like the enforcers at least came from
sport, right, from like wrestling, which is really big
in the former Soviet Union. So these guys
naturally gravitated towards being
enforcers and I guess from
that you end up picking up AKs and you get
to what you got here. I mean, it still
goes on with the Chechens today, right? They're all like
boxers and the MMA fighters
and they're all involved in like, well, they're
all, some of them involved in like Chechen
gang crime, but yeah. So
there's your four major gangs in Toliati
in the dying years of communism, right?
There are two older ones
and there are two new kids on the block.
And then in November 1989,
East Berlin has tear down the city's war.
I don't know if you know this history. It's pretty vague.
Germany's reunited.
And the communist dictatorships of the iron curtain
fall away like dominoes.
Except for Albania, of course,
which soldiers on until 1992.
I mean, you've got to hand it to them. It was really mad there.
In 1991, the Soviet Union
officially collapses.
and out of its shell comes a number of independent nations entirely captured by oligarchs,
despots and gangsters.
And David Hasselhoff.
And David Hasselhoff.
I mean, you've gone into this stuff like a bunch in a couple of episodes, so we don't
need to retread it too much here.
But in Tollietti, the end of the Politburo is like the starting gun on a mad dash for
larger riches.
Here's a quote from Secret magazine, roughly translated, of course.
Quote, the huge factory quickly became the main source of English.
income for local gangs. There are several types of business. In addition to the already
mentioned theft of spare parts, members of the organised crime group collected tribute from
intermediaries who traded cars and also took control of the store at Vaz, which was the only
official dealer in the early 90s. In some periods, the bandits did not hesitate to run the plant.
Many of them even had passes to enter the territory. So these gangs have basically what they want.
newly minted Russia is a basket case.
There's barely any rule of law.
And Lada and this giant Vaz plant
is just sitting there like a great big something
waiting to be somethinged.
That's good. We're getting bigger.
We've got to keep Russian gang stories family-friendly.
People who know that quote know that quote,
so we don't have to dive into the details.
There's a little cat to it.
The first thing they do is set up a black market
in car parts they've stolen off the line.
Quote, money flowed like a river,
according to that dilettante pace.
Great name for a man.
magazine too. It is. It's awesome. The piece is really good. I've stuck it all on the reading list.
It's worth Google translating. And for now, everyone's happy in Toliati. There's tons of money.
There's more than enough to go around. Parts, cars, fuel. It's all going missing off the Lada
production line disappearing into the black economy. And you could argue at this point in Russia's
history, it's just hustle. The Russian economy is going insane, hyperinflation, depression.
In 1992 alone, retail prices across the country go up over 2,500%
that's like Zimbabwe level shit.
And on one single day in 1994, called Black Tuesday,
the ruble loses over a quarter of its value.
The Soviet Union's safety net has disappeared,
and joblessness is skyrocketing.
No wonder the Kremlin barely had any time to give a toss
about its little old clown cars disappearing off the line.
In formal grey or black markets are propping up millions
of people's lives at the time.
It says a Max Planck Institute paper, quote,
in the post-communist era,
entrepreneurial behavior was legally rehabilitated
and publicly legitimized.
Shadow dealers became legal or semi-legal entrepreneurs.
In the 1990s, it gave way to a mass
of small cross-border traders
or shuttle traders or Chelnoki,
bringing imported goods independently
or buy themselves from Turkey, China,
Saudi Arabia, and Poland.
Yeah, Glennie also talks about how the people
who became oligarchs, a lot of them had experience in like the shadow market before the collapse
of communism. And that's why they were best suited to come in and takeover businesses. You know,
they had networks. They knew how to get things done. They were essentially operators, you know,
so that kind of lends itself towards the sort of wheeling and dealing that is necessary for, you know,
to profit off this sort of situation. Yeah, here's looking at you, Abramovich. So this,
so carries on this, like this, this quote carries on from the Max Plan piece. This grassroots,
entrepreneurship did not become very prestigious, but it was quite a legitimate activity.
The people started to back shuttle traders when the state authorities tried to suppress them.
So in other words, the rule was going mad.
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Moscow barely has a clue what to do, and it's run by
shysters and idiots and everyone else it's like the hunger games music to a gangster's ears in toliette the
different gangs split up the company and the city into separate fiefdoms and for a very very short while
there's peace but the older boys quote yesterday's racketeers as one article i read called them
these guys are not happy with the young bucks and that these guys are taking a piece of their pie
these old guys are grizzled factory workers most of them war vets why hell why the hell are
seeding ground to Gen Zedders, who probably sit around all day playing Nintendo and listening
to Nirvana or Kina or whatever Russian Gen Zetas do.
I just want to also add Zad means Z in American, so for our listeners that are American,
yeah, Gen Zers.
But also, I think I just remembered as you were reading that, the thing I said about the
collapse of communism and the guys that were operators and who had to work in the black
market, that might have actually been from Amy Chua's World on Fire.
So that's also a great book if anyone wants to do that.
something else. So, yeah, it's excellent. Cool.
So anyway. Yeah. And in particular, at this time, the Volga's, that's those boys from
the bar under Maslov, Karapetian. They're making banks selling spare parts. Others just look on
with envy. It's clear at this point that a war is coming. Agi and Voronetsky, that's obviously
the Aggie Voronetsky clan, they hook up with the gift and that's the bodybuilding guy to take
out the younger vulgar's, and the gift has got a clique of young trigger men ready to carry out
his orders. Their arsenal includes two Sornovs, two Makarov pistols, one Tokarev pistol, that's like this
old 1930s Soviet model, which I guess makes sense in a ladder factory, and an AK, because of course
there's an AK, and grenades and explosives. That's not much of an arsenal, you know, it sounds like
what guys in Texas keep in their basement. Yeah, my former father-in-law, I think, had that, like, in his
wardrobe. Their principal target is Vladimir Vodvin, aka the partner, and he's head of that
Naponikovskyer gang, which is the weaker of the older gangs. He's a thimbles guy, right?
He's a softer target, perhaps. But the gifts to young men, they're no professionals, and the
partner spots a sniper on the roof of his building and runs off. Soon after, they go after
an associate of the vulgar's called Sergei Kupiev, but they back out because of the Kupiev's
bodyguards. I mean, these guys, they're a bit clownish. But on September 16, 19 to 92,
the first racketeer war begins. Great name for a war. I can't believe this hasn't been
reported, man. This is like so crazy. Armandits head towards the house of Vladimir Bilichenko.
He's the head of Toliati's glass tinting division, who hasn't been playing ball with the old
boys. He's walking down his home street at the time. Villacenco's expecting something. He's been
getting threats for ages from these punks, and he's surrounded by four friends. Literally, at this
point, even if you're a middle manager in Toliati, your heads potentially on the block and you need
protection. It's crazy. Anyway, these young bandits working for the gift on behalf of the older
Aggie Voronetskis, they screw up again. Villacchenko's wife spots them out the window and cries out
to her husband. I mean, it's all kind of comedic. At this point, the bandits have been rumbled and they
run away. Billichenko, or more accurately his wife, has diverted an assassination attempt.
But he gets angry and he chases after them and that is a bad move. After heading around a corner,
the young gunman reposition and blast them with the sorenoffs. Billichenko dies on the spot.
One of his friends slash henchmen actually steals the body from Tolliatty's morgue and he buries
in Ukraine, which is a long way to go for a dead pal. A few weeks later, the Giftsman go back
after Sergei Kupiev, this time they kill him.
Then, on November 13, 1992,
the young guys get a massive scalp.
Alexander Masloff, one of the leaders of the Volga's,
he's cornered at the entrance to his house,
and he's shot twice in the back, killing him.
But the killer himself, who's a guy called Sergey,
okay, of course, there's a lot of Sergei's here.
It's more clown show stuff, right?
His pistol jams when he tries taking out Masloff's bodyguard,
and he gets identified in the associate of the gift,
and his older allies the Agi Voronetskis.
Oops.
The vulgars decide to turn Masloff's funeral
into a show of might for their gang.
And they invite a funeral cortege of dozens of cars
and high-ranking politicians and cops
to a procession that snakes along Toliati's Carmark Street
where its city hall is for hours.
Bars and brothels close.
It's like a king died.
And of course, Masloff gets buried
in the Bannikinsky Cemetery,
which was pretty soon be called the Alley of Heroes.
What's more, because Maslow's assailant was such a useless idiot,
everyone in the Tollietti underworld and its police knows him.
Normally the local cops don't bother with organised crime,
much less in times of war.
But it'd just be too much of a joke not to arrest Sergei.
And in December 1992, they do just that.
But most members of the Gifts, young, bungling bandits with them.
But the bodybuilder gang leader himself, the gift,
he just slinks off into the background.
Aggie, one of the two older guys who used the gift to fight the Volga's, but lost,
and they hand him a 15-year sentence for his part in the first racketeering war.
Boronetsky doesn't get quite so lucky.
In December 18 that year, Boronetsky, who's taken to wearing a bulletproof vest,
is nonetheless shot dead by Volga's hitmen.
And that was pretty much the end of the first racketeering war in Tollietti.
But if the locals thought that was the worst they'd seen,
it was like dropping off a Ferrari at the dealer and getting a larder.
It was about to get a hell of a lot worse.
After the death of the Aggie Voronetskis and the gifts young Podarkovskia hoodlums,
the vulgars, these bright-faced young drunkards from the hotel bar,
it's fair to say they stock up for the winter.
They move into Toliathis's Avta Vadovsk neighborhood,
which is home to most of its Lada factories,
and they ally with a Chechen group,
hit up by a former police officer.
Note to potential Russian underworld leaders
always team up with the Chechens.
That's solid advice.
I feel like that should have been
what you said in the intro.
But I feel like the Ukrainians right now
seem to be doing pretty well
at fighting them off at the moment.
Yeah. Yeah, God, that's crazy.
These are...
The Chechens are bad boys to a one, right?
I was working on a piece
about Chechen mobs in Berlin a while back,
but I'm pretty sure I'd end up dead
if I followed that one through.
Nice hats though.
Anyway, the Volga's used
the Chechens to arm themselves for a second war to take even more control of the massive Vaz
plant. And this isn't like the half-assed couple of pallets they'd managed before, right? The Chechens
sought them a full convoy of weapons, smuggled into Toliati in secret bottoms in the back of Vaz trucks,
enough to fill four warehouses. I mean, we're talking Dragonoff sniper rifles, NATO-Agram-2000
assault rifles, AKs, of course, PP-90 subs and boss.
which are homemade Chechen submachine guns produced during the early 90s.
And this is a time remember,
and Chechnya is trying to break free from Russia,
is holding referenda in Ingushetia,
and actually winning an extremely short-lived independence in 1996.
I mean, we should definitely do a Chechen episode soon
because the place is just mad.
Yeah, and fascinating, you know, presence in underworlds as well.
I mean, have you been?
I have not been.
I would love to go.
Yeah, I've been right up on that, but not been.
It's also, I mean, Katerov, he's basically a Mafia, so Kingpin when it comes down to it here,
so maybe just an episode on him.
Yeah, didn't people love, like, doing stories about his IG profile or something a few years ago?
Yeah, I remember that being a thing.
Yeah.
Anyway, this firepower, this Chechen firepower, plus, of course, a job, lot of grenades,
and the Volga's are pretty well placed to launch a second racketeering war in Toiliety.
In the meantime, the Lada production line is getting rinsed to an insane level.
In 1993, 43, 45 cars disappear in the Central Production Department and 130 in the assemble and body shop.
I mean, whole cars.
And on July 21, 1994, this is just one night.
Car parts worth almost 10 million roubles are stolen from the factory.
According to my maths, and I could be wrong.
I think that's like hundreds of thousands of dollars in today's money.
In car parts alone, says Diletton, quote,
Everything that was good or bad was dragged from the Volga,
mobile plant and then resold.
And then, when you can't steal anything anymore, you'd light a match.
Beautiful.
Mobsters also started doing something called Kidniak at this point, which is a scam where
cars were sold under fake bank guarantees and none of the money would make its way back
to Vaz, of course.
And this makes the gangs of Toliati many millions of dollars each year.
Says an investigative journalist at the time, quote,
At the factory, everyone soon became used to the presence of guys in track suits with shaved heads.
It just sounds like home, really.
They would walk up to the conveyor and say,
That car, that car and that car, those are ours.
And they were put a marker on the windshield so that everyone knew who the cars belonged to.
Everyone understood that the factory had been occupied.
There existed an internal administration that was controlled in the whole process.
I really wish some fashion magazine would just do a history of the tracksuit in Eastern Europe.
There's some feature on it.
I feel like it'd be incredible.
Feel free to deck us out in gear,
if anyone's listening to this as well.
I'm all up for that time of life
where I can do a track suit and a flat cap.
By now, two main gangs remain from that first war, right?
There's the Volgas and the Napaanikovskia,
led by Vladimir Vodin, aka the partner.
He's the one of the old-school guys
who'd been making cash on Fimbals back in a day
before things got quite so wild.
After Masloff's death, remember him from the Volga's.
The Volga's get a new leader.
That's Dmitri Rzliath,
aka Dmitri Bolshoi or Dmitri the Great.
Just so you know when you actually hear about the Bolshoi ballet,
I think it just means the big or the great ballet is pretty boring.
Dmitri is actually still on Lard's books as a security guard
as his vulgar's take over more and more of the factory,
squeezing out the partner's gang until war becomes inevitable.
I actually read some stuff suggesting,
the Volgas are by this point, actually a puppet of corrupt politicians in the FSB, which is
the successes of the KGB, and Dima at this time, Dima Bolshoi is just a figurehead, but who knows?
I mean, whatever the truth, the Second War kicks off in May 1994, and that's when assailants
murdered Gary Kupiev, a vulgar ally, in his home. Then on May 30, gunfire breaks out one of
the Vaz factory's many checkpoints. Several members of both gangs are killed, signaling a resumption
of full violence in Toliati.
Incredibly, that summer police manager
who arrests the partner and keep him in custody,
but it does little to stem the bloodshed
of a war many times bigger
than the one that had gone before it.
Then Tatar ethnic gangs move into Toliati,
and they're part of something called the Kazan phenomenon,
named after the capital of Tatarstan in Siberia.
Basically, they're this Turkic ethnic group
sidelined and killed during the Soviet years,
and they get involved in the mafia in the 90s,
a bit like the Chechens are doing today.
These Tatars are running a projection racket
at the spare part center of Baz,
working alongside the partner
against Dima and his vulgar's.
And they just show up and are like,
we want in?
Yeah, they do.
I think they're pretty feared at this point
across Russia.
So no one's really messing with them.
And there's still loads of money to go around, right?
So people can siphon off bits of the factories and stuff.
Both sides of the second war
are tooled up to the eyeball.
and the violence just goes through the roof.
At one point in the fall of 1994,
an average three contract killings
are carried out in Tolliety every day.
Christ, that's a long way from the guys
with like two pistols and two shotguns in the beginning.
Yeah, man, it's nuts.
I mean, gunfire rings out around the streets
of Tollieti and civilians are getting caught in the crossfire,
blown up in car bombs.
The two battling gangs are hiring muscle
and hit men from outside town.
I mean, it's like burning.
man for Russian gangsters.
That kind of makes no sense, but, you know, I'm not going to stop you. You're doing good.
Thanks. If you're making literal millions, right, and you've got pretty much free range on one of your
country's most lucrative industries, I mean, don't kill so many innocent people that the cops
have to get involved. But that's exactly what this war is doing, again, dropping so many people
in this one single city that the authorities just can't afford to let the killing continue.
cops go for the low-hanging fruit, the Tatars,
and one by one they arrest the partner allied ethnic groups trigger men,
deflating the second war.
They even get to partner himself, of course,
although he won't have quite so tough a time laying low under police protection.
And Aggie, remember him?
As the old dude got defeated in the first war,
he gets sent down after his arrest back then,
but incredibly, Russia's Supreme Court overturns the decision,
and he just clean vanishes, no idea where he went.
Some people say he was shot dead, others that he got out of the country, who knows.
Same for the gift, the bodybuilding thug whose henchmen had been so clueless in the first conflict.
Could be a block of ice at the bottom of the Volga, could be on a beach in Thailand.
Either way, there is a lull in the violence.
Over 100 people have died in these wars so far.
Cops out up a special task force for export cars and they stop some of the extortion.
Some people in Toliati think the arrest have actually stopped the violence, but what do you reckon?
I'm going to go with no.
Definitely.
Definitely a no.
You win.
You win the prize.
Yeah, of course not.
On October 8, 1996,
a businessman named Alec Gassanoff is at the local theatre.
He's one of the richest and most influential men in Toliati,
and he owns, among other things,
its biggest dealership,
a fish factory,
a football stadium,
and a TV station.
Oh yeah.
And he also happens to be the biggest supplier of Solom Vaz stuff
to the Volgas,
led by Dima Bolshoi, of course.
Well, of course, upstriads a hitman working for the partner,
and he shoots Gassanoff dead.
Now, this killing really hits Dima hard,
and his vulgar boys go on the offensive.
They knock out a bunch of low-ranking hoods
using similar tactics to that of the second racketeering war.
They hire outsiders to keep the cops on their toes,
and in February 1997, cops arrest Dima
and find a gun in his jacket pocket,
and they accuse him of murder.
But he gets out on bail, and he just,
disappears. Probably not someone I'd
veer mark for bail to be honest.
But he gets arrested again a few months later and amazingly
they let him out on bail again and this war simmers on.
One of the few rays of hope for the police around this time
is a local detective, an absolute fearless badass
called Dimitri Ogorodnikov,
nicknamed Ogorod. I mean he literally runs into gunfire during shootouts
and he's responsible for nabbing a bunch of the Tatars that ended the second
racketeering war.
Says a reporter at the site, Titgorod,
Tickgorod, funny.
Quote, criminals knew, if Dima Ogorob was there,
it was time to put the guns away.
The respect and fear they had for him
overcame any other feelings.
That's kind of how I want to be described in the future.
Is that not how you describe now?
No, no, unfortunately now.
The partner, meanwhile, he lays low,
and he slowly expands his criminal empire
beyond Toliati.
Perhaps the partner knows that by this point, officials in Moscow have fully had enough of the violent embarrassment in Toliathi.
At the Kremlin, Anatoly Kulukov is not a man to be messed with.
A former Soviet Army General, he's instrumental in the Chechen War, including the brutal and disastrous Battle of Grogni in 1996, which somehow politically he survives, as Boris Yoltsin's Minister of the Interior.
By 1997, Kulikov has set up a special anti-gang gang.
unit to combat the Izmaoska mafia, which was then led from Israel and since has been heavily
rumored to have worked with Vladimir Putin to help his political rise. Got them on the list.
We're definitely going to do a show on them. Is that related to Mogilovich or no?
I think yes. I'm going to say yes. I'm pretty sure. But yeah, probably someone's going to write
it now. Anyway, as part of Kulikov's anti-gang measures, he sets up something called Operation
Cyclone, good name, with SOBR SWAT teams of cops.
and they just pile into Toliati.
And this will be the beginning of the end for the city's mobs.
They can't just waltz into the Lada factory and steal everything.
What's more, on April 13, 1998,
masked men burst into the Afghan veterans bar in Toliati
and pepper the place with machine gun fire
to kill over a dozen men
in what will become the bloodiest and most shocking event
of all three racketeering wars.
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people always call me loud.
And I'm like, yeah, I know.
I'm crispy.
Did you expect me to whisper?
If you want quiet, go eat some soup and reflect.
Like, I know I'm a handful.
I'm bold, I'm juicy.
Throw some pickles and barbecue sauce on me,
and baby, I'm a whole meal.
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Quiet, no.
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participating stores only while supplies lastly out for full terms.
11 days later, on April 24,
gunman open fire on Dima Bolshoi's car,
Alada, shockingly,
killing him and two of his bodyguards.
His headstone in the alley of heroes reads,
quote, don't worry, Dima, we got the guy who did you?
First, great headstone.
Second, all of this occurs after the police crackdown?
Yeah, it's like everyone just sort of takes their chance
to off each other while the police are piling in.
So, with Bolshoid dead, partner laying low,
the gift, Aggie and others missing presumed dead,
and hundreds of others either buried in the alley of heroes
or tossed in the river or the nearby reservoir from the dam,
the era of two big mafias duking it out for control of Russia's Motor City
is pretty much over.
Kulikov gathers his new anti-gang squad too.
They roll into town, they've got armored vehicles.
And this is what Russians affectionately can name the Battle of Kulikovo,
which is also a major defeat of the Mongols by the Russians in 1380.
I mean, Dan Kalin, eat your heart out.
from what I read
this operation sounds pretty nuts though
right they roll in with military equipment
they clear the factories one section after another
says one report I read quote
the heads of the factory had asked for help
from city authorities
regional authorities and from the ministry
of internal affairs to help clean out
the factory because they were facing
threats to their lives
those who were in charge of things like the sale of spare
parts or accessories for example
would be attacked and beaten with iron rods
So, yeah, it's getting pretty out of hand.
And throughout 1998, 99 and 2000,
it's basically this dirty war scrapping for, well, actual scraps at the Vaz plant.
Beating back from the crown jewels of larder,
most begin extorting small businesses like pharmacies and convenience stores.
This is also the bloodiest period in Tolliety.
20 businessmen are killed.
In 2000, assailants strike famed detective Oggorod's car with AKs,
and they hit him 30 times.
So the crackdown maybe saves the factory, but it just like spreads out, the violence just spreads out everywhere?
Yeah, yeah.
They basically keep them away from like the real lucrative stuff.
So the big mobs kind of died down where they just sort of like eat each other turn into these like real scrappy little horrible gangs.
And a blaze at a local police station at this time kills 57 people.
But officials aren't sure whether it's arson or not.
I mean, 57.
The body count in this episode is nuts.
Tons of files.
about the previous gang wars.
They're also lost in the fire, which is...
I mean, I suppose it was a police station,
but yeah, pretty useful for anyone who's doing that.
A bunch of would-be dons come and go,
usually via a bullet or two.
Essentially, the police are finally getting a grip.
The big boys are dead,
and their acolytes are reduced to stealing.
The plants back in the hands of the state,
and Toliati isn't quite the cash cow it once was.
When is this?
Like, what year is this about?
It's like 2000, first couple of years of the 20 years
of the 20s.
first century. And this doesn't stop, though, a bunch of small-time crooks, right, just like we said,
from causing what would still be a shocking, shocking level of violence in any city thereafter. And by the
turn of the millennium, right, over 400 people have been killed in these wars. Journalists take a
particular battering. And in 2002, the editor of the city's biggest newspaper, the Tolieti Observer,
is shot several times with a silenced gun outside his home as he's off to buy sweets for his
daughter. So it's awful. In 2003, courts hear the cases of dozens of mid-ranked players in the
Toliati gang wars. But crucially, the partner, he gets out. He flees to Spain where he lives
out his days in relative luxury, getting pink and fat on the beach somewhere between Malaga and
Seville, according to reports. Although, of course, in true underworld podcast style, he's got
companies supposedly registered him in guess where Dubai? And that's pretty much, yeah,
And that's pretty much your Tollieti Gangcar Wars, guys.
Like 500 to 1,000 people dead, full-on military arsenals,
a national brand completely taken over, stripped, hero detectives,
a state assault mission, all in a city you'd never heard of.
And what a great time to do an episode of Russia,
which is a totally normal and cool country.
So boycott Lada.
Yeah, that was great, man.
Thank you for doing that.
I hope you get to report it out some time.
and someone sends you to Siberia to get this done.
But yeah, guys, patreon.com,
so that's on the world podcast, you know,
ad-free episodes, bonus stuff, all that,
which we've been slacking a bit on because we've both been on the road.
But, yeah, give us some support
so we can stop doing things we don't want to do
and start doing things we want to do.
If all of you start doing it,
or if each you that do it tell 10 people to do it,
we're good, man, we're chilling.
Yeah, talking to things we don't want to do,
I'm just about to step onto the beach and have a beer.
So it's a tough life.
Yeah, have fun. Have fun doing the story that I did that I pitched. That's now taking you to Belize. Anyway, great. Great. Things are working out great. Yeah. Right.
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