The Unmade Podcast - 158: Medical Emergencies

Episode Date: March 15, 2025

Tim and Brady endure a host of medical issues - including one during the show - while discussing moons, one-word identification, and favourite movie clips.Here’s the clip of Tim going solo while Brady was away - https://www.patreon.com/posts/124414055And the latest Request Room episode here - https://www.patreon.com/posts/124418733Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFMJoin the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/Unmade_Podcast/Catch the podcast on YouTube where we often include accompanying videos and pictures - https://www.youtube.com/@unmadepodcastUSEFUL LINKSApollo 16 seismic data - https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19760018052Saturnian Moons - https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/mar/11/astronomers-discover-128-new-moons-orbiting-saturnNotting Hill finale - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM4rv42qyvkIn the Name of the Father clip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUjOZr0-tssAmerican President clip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-__djIQgBJcGood Will Hunting showdown in the bar - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIdsjNGCGz4

Hey Tim, before we get into the show, I thought I would just say lots and lots of people emailed and got in touch after I spoke about my dad passing away and they sent really nice condolences and messages. It's not possible to reply to all of them personally, but can I just say I have read them all and it was really appreciated. Thank you everyone who's been in touch. Oh, lovely. Oh, I'm glad. I'm glad people got in touch. What was that? That was me trying to do a theme tune.

Okay. Can you do the little jingle at the start of our show that Alan Stewart wrote? There's the do do do that's all sort of wrong. Wait, wait, I can, I've got the guitar here so I can sort of do that one one that's at the very start that sounds a bit country you know a bit twangy. Oh no I haven't learned that one through. Surely you can do the off the bum note at the end. I did. I did. I did. I did sort of a yeah. Yeah, some sort of, you know, like it's going really well. Tim's telling a great story. It's pretty great.

Brady says something. Moon of the week. Great idea from Tim. Great idea from Brady. Moon of the week. Great idea from Tim. Great idea from Brady. Moon of the week. Awkward. I can't even play a bad. I should try and play Money for Nothing. That'd be the way to play something dodgy. I can't play it badly. There we go. Yeah. We've got Moon of the Week today, so stay tuned for that people after Tim's built it up. Sorry that Tim got the guitar out so early, I couldn't stop him.

That wasn't I didn't request that. I usually say. Did you want the guitar again? He looks. No, I usually I usually buried Tim on the guitar in the request room, so only the patrons have to put up with that. Pay for the privilege. That's right. Yeah. Speaking of Tim's guitar and things that go catastrophically wrong.

I was in hospital yesterday. Oh no. No it wasn't an accident. Well it kind of was I've had a bad shoulder for months and months and months. Oh, yes your shoulder. Yeah, and it's just been getting worse and worse. So I went into hospital yesterday for a like a big guided injection with like all special, uh, you know, X-ray machines and everything. And they get the ultrasound base ultrasound.

It was, I have had MRI and X-ray, but they use an ultrasound yesterday and they put this giant needle in my shoulder and filled up the sack that surrounds my shoulder with all this liquid and steroids and all sorts of stuff to try to make it feel better. And you know what? Touchwood, I've got a reasonably good medical history. Yeah. And this is one of my first experiences ever with medical treatment, where I had medical treatment and I thought, hang on a second, hang on a second, hang on a second. You calling me? I've got to go downstairs, man. I'll be back in a minute. call him a go for it man all good Brady's gone downstairs for just a few minutes he's been called away so that gives me an opportunity to about the guitar again and see what just happens to fly out is a little something I've been working on. So I was away for the next six or seven minutes.

If you'd like to find out what Tim got up to left alone with a microphone, camera and a guitar, I'll pop that on the Patreon. Patreon.com slash unmade FM. There'll be links below. I think it's the sort of thing any patrons are going to want to watch, isn't it? Sorry about that. Uh, little boy was sick downstairs with mummy and there was a bit of a all hands to the pump moment. Oh dear.

Sick as in sick sick. Yeah. I reckon he's been sick for well over a year once, so he's had a really good run. You know, you get up when they're babies, but he's already in a really good run lately. So that was a they're babies but he's already a really good run lately so that was a yeah hasn't happened for a while. No idea for little fella yeah I've it's nothing serious. So do I how did you go without me you put on a show where. Oh no nothing much happened where was I was in hospital wasn't I. You're in hospital you said this is the first time you've had some medical treatment and ironically you were interrupted by needing to administer some medical support.

It's the first time I've had medical treatment where like it felt like there was an instant not total fix but really massive effect like within it really hurt the treatment but within a few hours like it's like the pain's gone pretty much. Magnificent. It's incredible I didn't know that was possible. And I haven't just put it in as analgesic in there or something pumped it but they've pumped it full of steroids or something have they or what have they done. There was a bit of anesthetic but now I think it's the steroid mainly doing its job yeah I was amazed how quickly works I know it's just sort of might just be covering the problem bit but everyone always told me about these magic injections that make That make pain go away, but I didn't I didn't realize how effective they were. I guess I didn't believe mmm But I'm beginning to believe we'll see it's only been 12 hours. Let's give it a bit Let's see what how things go. I've got some physio later today, but yeah amazing Modern medicine hey is the idea that they've given this to you

So then you can do your physio pain-free and hopefully get it right is that kind of things fixed better yeah pretty much I think. I think that's the plan golly gosh well there you go okay well that that is good news for you and your your tennis game I know it's not your tennis arm but generally is when you down a little bit isn't it causing me huge problems lately like just just reaching around to pick up a cup of tea has become an issue for me so this is a it it had gotten to crazy proportions so hopefully this is a. The road to recovery. Is issue today medical ish i think you'd say i i were at the beach the night before last having a bit of a swim and yet again i got stung by a jelly except with you it's jellyfish. I know, I know. That's one of my daughters who attracts all the mosquitoes, which is very handy for the rest of us. But I'm the person for jellyfish. And jellyfish magnet.

It was just a minor thing this time. And I thought I got out and I thought I'll go get the fish and chips and you know, whatever. But then my one of my daughters came out as well and she had been stung too on the finger. I was like, OK, well, perhaps I know what it feels like. I think we need to go home and get the cream that we didn't have with us. So we went home and I put a bit of stuff on it and didn't think much about it because it was nowhere near as serious as as the one I had a few months ago but then in the middle of. I was alright for 24 hours in the middle of last night I was awake in the middle of the night and it was just causing me so much angst so itchy and annoying that I couldn't sleep and I was irritated. And it's pretty hot here anyway you know so it's a sort of one of those nights so I came out put some stuff on it and I found the. I'm gonna forget to say the word now what do you call them it's a anti.

What do you call them it's a anti Anna any anti anti histamine anti anti histamine that's the word anti histamine there we go. So in it is to me to help with the itchiness I had one of those and this is the one the chemist had given to me and recommended last time. When to sleep no worries woke up the next morning and I said do you reckon I have another one of these to get through the day? And my wife said, yeah. So I did. You're only supposed to have one of these every 24 hours. Something about the fact that having it in the dark felt like, you know, now it's day, surely it's long enough. Since it was dark, I I mean it's a whole other kind of you know it's daytime now surely that's like another day yeah so within about half an hour I started to feel pretty kind of a bit groggy and a bit weird but I went to work and then I got to work and I went and sat in my colleagues office and I just looked at her and said, Oh, something's odd. Something's wrong. It's like I'm at work. Like it's like I'm drunk or I'm just

like full of adrenaline, but my heart's not beating fast. I just feel weird. And I was trying to diagnose what it was. And I could only come that perhaps it was the anti-histamine or like, okay, well, we just got to let this wear off. By three o'clock this afternoon, I was feeling still exactly the same. Feeling so strange. And it's going to be dark soon. So you're going to have another one. I'm going to have another one. I've got to go again.

It's good. So what happened to three o'clock? Sorry, sorry to interrupt. Three o'clock. You're still struggling. Oh yeah. Yes. Anyway, so I called the meet.

We have like a health direct medical line to get advice. She bumped me up to the more serious nurse, listened to my story, and then she bumped me up to the doctor. And I thought, oh, this was all quite serious. And I've got my shirt off in my office, you know, talking on camera, holding up my arm and all sorts of stuff. And it's all getting very serious. And they're like, is there anywhere at work where you have a blood pressure machine? So I so I emailed the person in the office next to me can you check if there's a blood pressure machine they look through the windows see me with my shirt off.

I say suddenly I think most of the office think that Tim's you know sort of having a major operation in his office. But in the end in the end in the end the doctor said look here's here's the things I think it's the it's it's not the jellyfish I think it's the anti histamine because in Adelaide we don't have poisonous jellyfish. Really so so but he says do not ride your scooter home don't get on your motorbike. Okay so. That's right and I got a lift home so that was why to earlier I was texting that I needed to be recording tonight but I'll be coming with my wife is doing something else because he didn't want me he didn't want me getting on a motorbike with two anti histamines and it was the it was the most odd feeling. It was so strange it was like my heart was beating at a hundred miles an hour except it wasn't but my breast of my body was acting like my heart was beating really fast it was. Wow it was so peculiar anyway I've calmed down now as you can see yeah yeah I think I'm I think I think I'm okay I'm still a bit odd but I am a bit odd so. What an episode of medical emergencies this is like an episode of ER. It is now Edward downstairs you had to rush off just like George Clooney. Anthony Davis.

In ER. That's right. You were down there. Were you doing that? Were you down on one knee going, hey, little fella, how are you there? I was Clooney-esque. Were you? I don't think my wife would agree as she's calling out, get the paper towel.

Where's the paper towel? We've run out. It's in the cupboard under the stairs. I can't find it Remember George Clooney not being able to find the paper towel under the stairs, but it's been a while since he's had to do that Exactly. How much you know vomitous are we talking here man? Like just Not just normal, but it was on our nice posh sofa. So right it needed cleaning quickly So Edward was thrust aside and the paper towel was on the amendment. Let's bring in the sofa specialist.

He was covered with blankets in case there was a second coming. But yeah, anyway, all's well that ends well. Well, it did end well for me because I said I'm going back upstairs to record with Tim while my wife was cleaning up vomit. Right. Any I feel like in some ways she got the better deal you if you've had a medical emergency recently email Brady and let him know exactly all about it photos those things are welcome. Everything you've got have you ever had a medical emergency while listening to the unmade podcast. Oh wow. I know a lot of people have given birth listening to the unmade podcast, but have you ever had a medical emergency that started during the podcast? Let us know.

Surely people may have had a toilet emergency because they were laughing so hard. Possibly. But possibly. Maybe they could have burst stitches or something like that. Yeah, it's a risk. stitches or something like that. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's a risk. Let me tell you about a message we received.

It's been a long time since we've talked about the sofa shop. Everyone knows the sofa shop. It was this ad from Adelaide all through the eighties and nineties and beyond. And it had a jingle that we played too many times and then everyone started sending covers and we've got a whole mix tape of covers of the sofa shop. Quick reminder of how it goes. The sofa shop is your only stop for the sofa you need. You get the idea. Anyway, for the first time in a long time, we've had a new cover and it's something a little bit different. So I thought we'd share it.

Uh, let me read this. It comes from Ben. Hi, Tim and Brady. First off, thank you for the wonderful podcast. Oh, that's a great way to start any message. Ben continues. I'm a scientific illustrator and I like listening to the Unmade podcast while I'm working on creative projects. and I like listening to the Unmade Podcast while I'm working on creative projects. I've created a version of the sofa shop jingle using seismograph data recorded during the Apollo 16 moon mission.

During that mission, the astronauts set off controlled explosions on the surface of the moon and recorded the resulting vibrations. I traced one of the vibration waveforms out of a NASA technical report and converted into sound. Which I then played back at different speeds to produce a version of the sofa shop jingle I've attached a sound file of this version which I've named seismic shop I hope you enjoy it. So here we go for the first time ever here is the sofa shop being played with explosions on the moon. There you go. Well, that's something new. I tell you, I thought Big Ben was a big deal, but the moon is something else altogether. If you thought banging on the Big Ben bell to play the Sofra Shop was impressive, try banging on the whole moon to play the Sofra Shop jingle.

There you go. I'll tell you what Tim, I'm going to have a try at putting that version with the words from Carmen. So if that works, I'm going to play that now. So if you hear it now, this is how I did, bearing in mind I'm no audio engineer. One of the great things about this is I listened to it at home and then I was telling my wife about it and I said tonight we've got a new version of the sofa shop, it's been a while since we've had one of those and I explained what it was and she said of all things to say she said who was it that made it. And I said well how what are you why do you think you would know or have heard of the person that made it she goes well there's quite a few Australians in space at the moment and I and I might know.

I've been listening to them and I might know the name. And I said, his name's Ben. Is that one of them? She goes, no. And I said, yeah, I think Ben's like more like working with old footage that he is like in space at the moment, making sounds on the moon. So what Australians in space at the moment?

Well, apparently there's a few that are stuck on a space station somewhere. Is that right? They're not Australians, are they? Well, she said she thought there were a few Australians in space at the moment. Well apparently there's a few that are stuck on a space station somewhere. Is that right? They're not Australians are they? Well she said she thought there were a few Australians in space at the moment. Australian astronauts? There haven't been many Australian astronauts I didn't know there were any in space. As a first port of call let me ask the old chat, are there any Australians in space at the moment? As of March 12 2025 there are no Australians currently in space. Australia's most recent astronaut Elaine Hyde, who hadn't heard of became the first Australian female astronaut. To travel to space two weeks ago okay.

Okay there you go. Yeah so that yeah I don't know if there's one up there at the moment but I said your wife was right I had no idea. And and but Ben's not one of them is he? Ben's not sending this from space to us with the sounds that he's recorded off the moon now which is I think what my wife put together in her mind when I first explained. Can I just say if someone records a version of the sofa shop in space and I think I know a friend of ours in space at the moment who's been on our podcast. So if someone sends us a version of the sofa shot from space, that's a Colonel ship. Wow.

In the bag. Wow. You sound surprised. There you go. Would you doubt that? I doubt it could be possible. I don't doubt that they're worthy of a Colonel ship. Absolutely not.

But I doubt that we know someone who's in space at the moment. I think Don Pettit's in space at the moment. And he, he was briefly on our podcast when Destin was on, he gave Don a call. And I've done some videos with Don. Oh, yeah. Oh, I think he's still on the space station. He might not be on either. Hang on.

Let's ask Chad again. Don Pettit is currently on the ISS serving as flight engineer for expedition 72. Wow. I don't think he's going to do us a safer shot though. Can you email him while he's up there? I could try, yeah. I can, I've got his email and he does get emails. He's got emails, at least checking his phone, laying there trying to get to sleep.

Yeah, he checks emails in space. Yeah, I don't know. I doubt he'll reply to me, but he might. I'll see what I can do. He's my I'll see what I can do. There's a bit of homework for you. Alright. Alright but you've got some homework what's the homework you can set me man is there someone I know that's in. You could play the sofa shop on the big rocking horse that would be cool.

Oh yeah we could bang it and see there's a. You know like how the Beatles played that song on top of like that roof and that in that iconic you know video where they play music on a roof. Yeah yeah that's on the top of the Apple headquarters. Yeah. Yeah in London. And there's also where is that and there's also that really cool time that slashed that guitar solo and the helicopter flies around him and like his hairs blowing everywhere and there's that legendary. Yeah, that's November rain. Yeah. Yeah. The last great video.

Yeah. Yeah. So I would love to get you on top of the big rocking horse with a guitar playing the sofa shop and fly like a drone all around you and do that kind of thing. How cool would that be? We could organise that, couldn't we? I've got a Don who could do some drone work for us. That's absolutely possible. OK.

Yeah, yeah, I could do that too. That would be pretty cool. That would be pretty epic. That's your homework. I want Tim alone on top of the big rocking horse with a guitar playing the sofa shop and a drone flying around him as he does it. That's your homework. I can see it. I can see it.

Yeah, it's fantastic. You know it. can see it. Yeah, it's fantastic. You know it. You know it. Let's get it done. Oh, wow. That would be excellent. Ideas for a podcast. Do you want to go first? I can go first. I really go first because you muscle in.

But let me let me let me throw this idea at you. I haven't got a name. Well, let me let me give it throw this idea at you. I haven't got a name. Well let me let me give it a name that I just wrote at the top here which the name of my podcast idea is one actually before I say the name let me test my idea on you. So if I say one word I want you to try and guess of whom I'm speaking okay. Okay. The King. Well that's two words but I'm gonna go for Elvis. Correct.

Michael Jackson. That also is two words. Blimey. Okay, that was Axl Rose. Well done. So coming back to the Michael Jackson one, do you know that my wife and I have a Michael Jackson noise as well that we use? No. But it's not, it's a bit like yours, but it's not quite the same.

Have you ever seen the video of when Michael Jackson walks around this like antique store or like shop full of really tacky but hugely expensive home furnishings and they shut down the store and he just buys almost everything and he just walks around the store. Oh yeah that famous documentary yeah yeah that's crazy. And every time every time he sees something he wants to buy he just points at at it and goes, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. And then they put that on the list and he's buying it. These bars is $500,000 and another $500,000. Yeah. And he just goes, whoop, whoop. So now whenever my wife and I like try to get each other's attention, like in a shop or

something, and we're like in a different aisle and that we want to get the other, we'll just go, whoop, whoop. And it's based on Michael Jackson doing that. I love that. I'll try another one for you. This is an easy one. Hagrid. Was that Harry Potter saying it? Yes, well, Daniel Radcliffe. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.

No, we have here's another one. Oh, Al Pacino. Well done. Well done. Pacino. Well done. Well done. Very good. Very good. I'll give you one. I'll give you one more.

Right. Right. Edward. I can't decide if that's me or my wife. Is that my wife? That's Kylie. Yes. Edward.

My girls go around the house going Edward. Like Kylie's lovely English accent. there's an excuse to say it so this is this is I was thinking that this this podcast is called one person one word right. Yeah or sound I guess it could be as well so you can help me with the name again. Can I give you a couple. Okay go for it yeah. How about this isn't one word but it's sort of in the spirit of it. Chew for 22. Oh yes Richie Benno Australian cricket commentator. Yes very much.

You could have even just gone chew and I would have got that one. Yes. It's amazing can you can you identify some upper person with one word and I would want to say one sound as well you know what I mean there's a way of particular. Here's a challenge for you what's my word. Yes yes. How would you do me. I was thinking about this the one I came up with I'm not I'm not settled on it yet but is you going yes yes. that's a very Brady thing to go yes. Okay I didn't know that I mean I would have thought an easy one for you would be man.

Man yeah well that's true yeah that could be either of us couldn't. What's the thing you say on the podcast all the time that I made the montage of what's the thing you see you say all the time and at the end of one of the episodes I made a montage of you saying it like 20 times. Oh that's right. That's right that's right. That's right yeah yeah from a podcast perspective that's me that's right. I don't associate that with you outside the podcast but you say on the podcast. I don't think I use it anywhere else no I was trying to think with Tom Cruise but there's not it's hard is sort of a look but trying to get his name.

And I think it's cheating to just use like an iconic phrase or line from film that's right because that's kind of like that's cheap yeah that's not really a spirit of it it's more. It's not in the classic one of those is the I'll be back you know that's just a little bit too much of a catchphrase for Arnold. Yeah and like show me the money for Tom Cruise and. Well I guess that's probably the closest for him isn't it yeah but you've. You can't. Trying to get it down to one word is very very hard I've got one here this is this is it doing exactly what we said we shouldn't do but it's it's the closest I can get and that's chocolate. Okay yeah okay forest gun. Yeah surely or life life is a lot life but yeah you I've been that's so that's that's getting off track a little bit I do like the idea of trying to nail down a person to one word and can they be associated with that one that one word.

Yeah. Isn't that an intriguing idea? Hmm. It is. Yeah, I'm wondering. I'm trying to think. I haven't had this sort of any prep time. I'm trying to think if there's any athletes or that have a phrase they say on the field a lot that you could do that with. But yeah.

Is there a word to sum up? Well, Michael Jordan. Is there a Michael Jordan? We've sort of gone into impersonation, but when you like said the king, I guess there are other ones you could do like with Michael like okay you'd say air. What famous person am I talking about when I say air and things like that so that's one word and it goes straight to a person. I remember years ago I was out playing pool with a couple of friends this one friend in particular Duncan and I had you know like intimate knowledge of each other's musical you know interests and and knowledge and appreciation and I went over to a jukebox. Chose a song and came back and I was racking up the pool table and he said who do you choose and I just went. Metallica like James Hetfield at the end of every song you know every line every word you know I'm going down to the shops. What's a line that he is on.

Exit later and tonight. It's forever this it's just like he's singing quite sweetly in tune and then he goes at the end and it just makes it sound like it's heavy metal. He suddenly remembers, hang on, I'm supposed to be all heavy metal here. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was that was our little short. Diamonds are a girl's best friend. Raa, raa. Jack Nicholson's another one that I thought is iconic, but I was finding it hard to get him down to one word.

And there's these two things here is it a word they're famously associated with like Jack Nicholson you know you can't handle the truth and all that or are we talking about things like Air Jordan and Elvis the King. A word that sums them up it's so hard because actors are performing so it's it's very hard but. but I think I think there's a way even of a sound or them saying a particular word like Nicholson you could almost bring it down to handle or something you know just a way of getting in there somehow but but that doesn't quite doesn't quite work I don't think. Okay. What we're mentioning actors we should know that the legendary Gene Hackman sadly passed away since our last episode. Yes. Legend actor in a lot of great sort of 80s and 90s movies that we've enjoyed 70s movies too but particularly in our life. Yeah I don't know how many times I watch Superman and Superman 2 but it's a lot. Yeah yeah.

Superman 2 is a real bone of contention in my home though because we had Superman and Superman 2 on VHS and my sister dropped Superman 2 and broke it. Superman 2 and VHS and my sister dropped Superman 2 and broke it the tape and that took it took it out of our play rotation and I never have fully forgiven her for it. Wow do you guys talk about it or is it unsaid between. I think it's there's too much pain we've just had to let it go. Right first time I saw Gene Hackman was in the film Mississippi Burning which we were made to watch six or seven times at school when teachers were away. Yeah whenever a teacher was away I think that was the only video they had in the school. No and the man from Snowy River too. Okay you said they'd roll out the TV and the VHS and Chuck in Mississippi Burning again which is actually while it is quite like a you know a film with an important message and very wholesome it is not really that much of a kiddy film is it like it's quite you know. It's violent yes no lynchings and beatings and oh gosh that's incredible.

I think the quintessential Gene Hackman sort of persona where he's playing that closest to himself I think would be from the film The Firm. You remember the Tom Cruise movie The Firm and he plays this older seasoned kind of corrupt lawyer and he just has this knowing. I've been around the block a lot of times, maybe one too many times and I'm going to show you a thing or two, but I'm resigned to my fate kind of. He had that feel about him. Yeah. Like an uncle that had gone wrong. There's something about him like that. He was good in Crimson Tide too, you know, sort of knowing submarine boss. I mean, I know he's done a lot of other great films in his Oscar work and stuff, but I guess we're talking about films we liked, so yeah. He could wear a cap. He could wear, he wears a cap well in Crimson Tide and gets angry.

Yeah, he does wear a good cap. Alright, good idea Tim. I like it. There's more, if you've got people you associate with one word or one phrase or one thing, not a quote they're famous for, but just like a, yeah, some noise you can make or one word you can say and you immediately think of that person. Let's hear it. And what do you think it should be for Tim and myself?

Are we going to do moon of the week now? Yeah, here we go. Here's the jingle. And Tim, it's actually moons of the week, plural. Let me read you this article from the from the Guardian the start of it. Astronomers have discovered 128 new moons orbiting Saturn. Wow! Giving it an insurmountable lead in the running tally of moons in the solar system. Until recently the moon King title was held by Jupiter which has 95 moons. But Saturn now has a total of 274 moons, almost twice as many as all the other planets combined. The team behind the discoveries

had previously identified 62 Saturnian moons using the Canada-France-Hawaii telescope. And having seen faint hints that there were more out there, made further observations in 2003. The moons have been formally recognised by the International Astronomical Union, which we all know as the organisation that certified my asteroid, and for now have been assigned strings of numbers and letters. They will eventually be given names based on Gallic, Norse and Canadian Inuit gods in keeping with the convention

for Saturn's moons. Most of the new moons fall in the Norse cluster, meaning astronomers are now going to have to hunt for dozens of obscure Viking deities. Can I just say if they've found all these moons right now, would they just be crap at it before? Well, I have to say, I mean, they've sent probes to Saturn like you know things have orbited Saturn and taken close up pictures of some of the big moons so. Yeah that's not an unfair question how did they miss them all before let's be clear here we're not talking about huge moons like our moon and the classic moons you think of when you think of Saturn like Titan I'm imagining these are more small rock. Asteroid type things that are not particularly shiny invisible so are they moons or are they just space junk. Well that's a fair question to at what point to something I don't know I guess I don't know if there's a minimum size to be considered a moon I should have researched this further but I think you can be pretty small and still be a moon.

But just to clarify again I thought the word moon was the name of our moon and that these other things aren't called moons they're called something else. That's fair and we don't usually call if you're being more technical you would call them satellites of Saturn but you also use moons so our moon if you're referring to it as a moon of Earth is a lowercase M but if you're calling it the moon or you're using it as a place then it's a capitalised M and then it's moon the name or it can also be Luna is the name of our moon. So I thought so it's a bit like man like when like you are a man but I also call you man hey man come over here. Yeah and yeah yeah yeah. And what are you doing with this information. I am telling it to you. Right what do you think I'll do with that information. Well I never know what you're going to do with astronomical information. It's half the fun.

Yes. Well, maybe I'll start my own podcast where I just take your information and re-explain it. And it'll be like Chinese whispers. We'll see how it comes out. I would love to hear how you go home and tell your family about Saturn's 128 new moons. Yeah, well, that's right. Because I now have vision. Oh, it's much more crowded up there than we thought. But of course's exactly the same it's always been presumably the main there for millions of years.

I never underestimate how big spaces and how much room there is I mean Saturn is a very very big planet. Yeah but they're all hanging around Saturn it's not like they've just come home from somewhere else. But there's still be a far away like for example our moon is 250,000 miles away from the Earth. Yeah. Like if you ever see a picture of how far away the moon is from the Earth to scale. Yeah. You'd be really surprised. Let's go to our patron winners. Okay.

Because I'm not firing you up with Saturn's moons I can tell. So do you want to- I just don't, we've been further than them to other planets and stuff so it's just funny that we went past them and didn't see them. Even it's not like all they're a long way away there's a lot of space and it's like yeah but they're around Saturn. Clearly they're closer to Saturn than another planet is closer to Saturn or that other planet would be considered a moon or that'd be a moon of that other planet. But like things like Uranus and Neptune are massive massive massive planets whereas these things are just tiny little bits of rock. Yeah. You know yeah yeah like you've been to Melbourne.

Yes. And you've but I'm sure there are pebbles outside your house at home that you've never seen but you walk past them every day. Yes that's right never seen but you walk past them every day. Yes that's right. Yes but you're not hiding are they? I just thought that we could scan the sky from this distance and go every little dot is something. Look closer every little dot is something. I think it is a fair question to ask why something like Cassini which took lots and lots of pictures all around Saturn didn't pick up a few of these bad boys incidentally. Who is this Cassini?

Is this someone else who's been on the podcast that I forgot? Cassini was a probe that spent a long time hooning around Saturn, taking lots of pictures and doing lots of cool stuff. I think Cassini was just on a smoko the whole time. I know, Cassini was doing what I was doing. I don't know, I want my money back. Half-decent paparazzi would do a betteroker the whole time. I want my money back. Half decent paparazzi do better job than a cancini. Okay. Patrons, do you want to get the guitar?

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OK, and we'll send Spoon of the Week collector cards to Derek C from California and Nathan from Missouri. Derek and Nathan, why are two people? Uh, I don't know. Why anything? But are there more? Or is that? That's just those two this week. I was going to do three, but then I thought JM would get the asteroid card instead.

I might chuck a few spoon cards into JM's envelope as well. If I'm feeling generous. What do you think JM stands for? I know what James stands for. Okay. I don't say people's full names on the podcast and I don't know his first name so I only know his surname so I was just calling him JM. Okay fair enough. What do you think JM? Well there was a famous department store here in Adelaide for many many years called John martin's so i'm gonna guess that it's john martin's. Am i right no but also john martin's had a had a line of women's clothing called miss jam oh really it was like a little sub brand under the john martin's brand miss jam. and miss jam. Miss jam. You're quite the John Miss jam influence of them. And I know a lot of stuff. I'm not just a pretty face.

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out. So I had an idea for a podcast and I had it all written out here and I've changed my mind at the very last minute the rent a part of the reason is yesterday I was in London and I was walking down Marley been high street and I saw Emma Thompson. Oh man the Emma Thompson just walking down the street doing her shopping. So lovely. And it reminded me that my main interaction with Emma Thompson is watching and re-watching the clip from In the Name of the Father, the film, when she's giving evidence in court and she does the big reveal of the evidence that had been kept from the defense that she found by accident as this legendary moment. And it tips the whole trial on its head and you know, it's a big deal. Why was the alibi for Jerry Conlon who was charged with the murder of five innocent people? Kept from the defense. And it's a fabulous clip. It's really and it's really well acted and it's stirring and it's emotional and it's one of those clips on YouTube I just go and watch time and time again I can't get enough of it.

I haven't seen the name of the father for years and years people you should check it out I'm gonna go home and watch it. I don't watch the whole film I just watch that one clip I've probably seen the film go right five or six times but it's just that one clip and I'm bit of a maybe I'm turning into bit of a you know it's a bit of a sad indictment of our generation that we don't watch whole films we just watch clips and things that are clipped up but I do have like. Lots of clips from films that I will go and watch on YouTube just to give me a little yeah emotional moment and I've got ones I go to all the time. Emotional moment and I've got ones I go to all the time and I've got other ones I go to occasionally there's like a hierarchy and some come in and out of fashion and others depend on what the algorithms recommending me to but my idea for a podcast is talking about clips from films. You love and go back and watch again and again and then maybe why you like them and things like that let me tell you some of mine that I watch a lot. Yeah. The finale to Notting Hill when Hugh Grant's character goes to the press conference and talks to Julia Robertson gets her back. There's gonna be a lot of spoilers. Yes, yes.

The climax of a romantic comedy. Yes. Yeah. Always makes me cry. Of course, the Jack Nicholson Tom Cruise interaction in the trial at the end of a few good men. Um, Michael Douglas as president, Andrew Shepard in the American president, when he finally goes to the podium and sticks up for what he believes in and, and gives it to the opposition. My name is Andrew Shepard and I am the president. Oh, right.

Okay. Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah, right. Great Aaron Sorkin piece of writing that in the name of the father, as I said, Emma Thompson, just lately I've been watching the finale to the Da Vinci Code a little bit when Tom Hanks finally realizes where Mary Magdalene is and walks through the streets of Paris. I think that's mainly because of Hans Zimmer's music. It's fantastic. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it is a beautiful. It's a beautiful score. Robin Williams on the on the park bench in Good Will Hunting when he talks to Matt Damon, you know, after Matt Damon's upset him and he has a few days to think about him and delivers his final, you know, you've never been in the 16th chapel.

He says, you don't know anything, you haven't lived, yeah, yeah. You just appeared. Fantastic. A couple of other ones lately. Um, the, the scene in the pursuit of happiness, when Will Smith gets given the job, he finds out he's, he's going to get the full-time job and all the sacrifices he's made have been worth it.

Yeah. And the boss of the company gives him back that money that he borrowed. Uh, classic, classic moment. Um, just lately I've also been watching the launch of the rocket in Apollo 13 that's because that's mainly because my little boy likes watching rocket launches and that's just the perfect rocket launch cause it's obviously not real and it's made for Hollywood but. It's also really stirring music and really emotional and other wives are watching and crying and it's it's very I find a lot of the things I like watching are things that will make me cry because they're either really sad or really happy. I'll be watching a few scenes from Ricky Gervais' show Afterlife that make me cry a lot. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so like things that make me cry because they're so happy or so sad.

There's some of mine anyway. Have you got any clips from films you'll go onto YouTube all the time and watch and re-watch? that things that make me cry because they're so happy or so sad there's some of mine anyway have have you got any clips from films you'll go onto youtube all the time and watch and rewatch just there's just just a couple of minutes not the whole film no no i know what you mean i know very much the spirit of it yeah yeah not just films too sometimes from tv shows are seen from the west wing yes i tell you what i particularly like i don't tend to go for the emotional ones I feel a bit guilty if I go for the emotional pay off moment without having done the work of the film you know what I'm doing but I feel like if you've seen the film lots of times you can't got that in the bank a little bit. Like that Hugh Grant scene at the press conference would mean nothing if you haven't seen the film. But I feel like I've got that in the back. You've got to have that in your memory, that's right.

I've got it in my back. But you're right, it is cheating just going and getting the emotional payoff. The one, well, I go back to, I tend to go to really good fight scenes, to be honest. I don't know, I don't mean physical fights, I mean, good arguments. So there's a film called Glenn Gary, Glenn Glen Ross and I go to the big final scene There's a few scenes in that it's just so well written and so Alec Baldwin scene in Glen Gary Glen Ross is the one I always go back and watch when he comes from head office and tells them how rubbish they all are always be closing always

Be closing Yeah, yeah, that's a very famous one. The one I like is right at the end, which is a big spoiler. In fact, I won't even spoil it, but it's got with Jack Lemmon plays a character who's just amazing. That all works really well. Al Pacino getting angry as well when he's let down is so fantastic. I like the scene in the West Wing when the the speaker Walton takes over as the president like he walks in and has to relieve the president because he's the president's given up his powers. For a brief time as he's able to do and I like it how he takes control.

The only problem with that saying and that's a good moment the only problem with that saying is John Goodman. Is John Goodman is too John Goodman like like I can't I can't suspend disbelief and think that welcome is a real character he still John. No I just he works for me but maybe maybe I'm just enjoying his John Goodman Ness he sort of you know he does that thing where he like he stands up straight and you know puts his shoulders back and waves his arms around and you know like he's Joe Cocker singing or something and you know gives a big speech. I also like the one where he does his first press conference as president as well you know I'm just sorry we couldn't shoot the bastard again like. Presidential yeah great so many West Wing scenes I could watch and rewatch yeah. Great so many West Wing scenes I could watch and rewatch yeah. Very clever there's some good it's the good it's the good so I tend to go for the ones where there's some good tight. Writing I would I would maybe this is something about us confrontation the confrontation or the inspiration where is you go a little bit more for the the the the lovey dovey or the you know the the moving kind of I want to be moved yeah I want to be made to cry although the Andrew Shepard American president scene is very good confrontation even though it's a monologue.

Yeah that's right yeah where he finally says it's the policies got to include guns yeah. Yeah but it's not that's not it's the it's where he defends his he also defends his girlfriend and a really cool way. That's right. Yeah, yeah. Sydney Ellen Wade is way out of your league. Way out of your, you better stick with me, because she's way out of your league. Yeah, which is just nonsense comment really. But I like, I like another scene in that film actually. In fact, I did exactly what you've described a few months ago. I went to the scene, but it's when he's playing pool and talking about you know.

Do you think it's okay that the president should ask out Sydney Alan way got a date and he's VP says you know we can make certain arrangements if you need a lady and it goes out I don't want you to get me a girl. I want to ask this girl out. I want to ask this girl out. It's also Douglas. Yeah. It's also good. He has a good confrontation with Michael J. Fox when they're talking about drinking the sand. They drink the sand because they can't tell the difference.

That's a really good scene. Oh, those two. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can see, yeah. Sorkin, the screenwriter, Aaron Sorkin just getting really warmed up there ready for making the West Wing. Good stuff.

I'm I've actually, while you've been talking, I've opened up my YouTube history and I've been clicking through trying to see if there's some other stuff that I've come across. And I have to say there's a lot of other things. There's not necessarily what you're talking about. I tend to sort of documentaries and other things. I'm trying to, but lots and lots of interviews with people. That's what I tend to watch that's a bit of a. I mean I watch more interviews than movie scenes yeah but.

I sometimes go to certain moments in documentaries as well this is a little bit different to what you're saying but I'll go to a certain moment in a documentary about a band when something's being explained or something and I'll watch that over again. and I'll watch that over again but that's just more interesting I know what you're talking about you look you're searching for the feeling. There's a feeling associated with that scene and you want to go back and feel it again that's really interesting. When I watch interviews I'm more often watching interviews for funny moments like you know celebrities being interviewed on Graham Norton and stuff but occasionally I'll watch I sometimes will watch a speech. Emma Thompson again did a really good speech when Alan Rickman died, but I've watched a few times. Uh, sometimes, sometimes a moving speech about someone can be quite touching. Anyway, people listening, if you have got a movie scene or a TV show scene that you go back and watch again and again, tell us what it is, send us a link to it so we can watch it too and tell us what you like about it a bit of the story and we might talk about it.

Next time I love to know I'd love to know what ones people watch and maybe I'll add them to my rotation give me a few soppy ones people give me a few crying moments. I'll tell you a classic one to finish with the that I used this week I was making a point we're talking a bit about plagiarism with my staff you know how plagiarism within the world of AI and in the world of. You know writing sermons and doing essays and all that's really interesting so we talk about the ethics of all that kind of stuff and I said have you guys ever seen goodwill hunting and they and they hadn't so I played them the scene from the bar right when what's his name I can't remember Ben Affleck is being you know pushed around by that so-called smart preppy guy and and Matt Damon steps in and just is able to quote line and verse and then line and verse back at him that's fantastic just puts him in his place so beautifully. The cool the cool the cool line in that he goes um because the guy goes well one day you'll be serving me you know McDonald's fries or something and he goes yeah well maybe but at least I won't be unoriginal.

But at least I won't be unoriginal. I don't like that I think that's I think that's the letdown of that scene I think that's a weak comeback. No way. I think that's a weak comeback. No no no no that's beautiful that was. No way. I think that's a weak comeback. No, no, no, no. That's beautiful. That was the whole point.

I played the scene. Yeah, I just think I like the sentiment. I like what he's conveying, but I just think it wasn't. I think it wasn't a strong landing. I don't think I don't like that. I find that disappointing. I think I wish he'd express that sentiment another way. But the way the thing, the point he's making is that the other guy is just quoting someone else's opinions.

He doesn't actually have an opinion. He doesn't understand it. I understand the message of the scene. I just I just think he expresses it bad. I just think unoriginal is like a weak word as a as a put down like you wouldn't you wouldn't you wouldn't call it someone. Hey, you're an original haha like it's just it's not it's it doesn't I don't know. That's where that's where but you don't know between in like I think it's the worst thing you can say to a musician or to or not to a musician to a songwriter or someone like that it's a massive put down. I guess also my problem with that ending to that scene as well though is, of course the ending to the scene he says we could take it outside and have a fight and the guy pulls

out then. That's kind of funny. I don't like that. I know that's funny but I don't like that. For me that's like oh we can just take it out and it's like oh okay that's every other film now. I like that you beat him verbally. Yeah but the problem with that, the problem with him saying at least I won't be unoriginal

is he's spelling it out too much. It's too obvious. Like what he's just done, he's just shown up the guy in the best way anyone has ever been shown up. He's completely exposed him. He's made himself look cool. He's done it all. You don't have to then explain to me, oh, that guy's unoriginal and he stole all that.

He's already done it. It didn't need to to be explained it didn't need to be explained. I know you make like it's a it's the punch you didn't need to give like when the guy says my kids will be serving you was in McDonald's it almost would have been cooler if he just gone. And just walked away he's already done the job he doesn't need to say you're unoriginal at least i'm original you're an original like it's spelled. No it doesn't it doesn't do that because because he's just made the point he says you've just dropped a hundred and fifty K on an education that you could have got for a dollar fifty. That's a good line public library right. What is basically he's offering the view you can use a public library and you can serve maccas and be a more sophisticated and in what way in America is that a better person? You go because they're an original person, they're themselves and that's it. That's it. That's the point of life.

You're not hearing me. I understand the sentiment, but it didn't need to be said like that. It was too, it was too much. It was dumb. It was insulting to the audience. I felt like it was dumbing down the audience that it needed to be explained that much. I think it would have been if you'd said it in the positive you'd said yeah but. At least I'm at least I'm original that would that would not have been good but at least at least I won't be on original I think it works it works for me. We'll have to agree to disagree on that I think I'moriginal is bit of a weak word and I think it's. It's just a weak word maybe because it's got lots of vows in it but I don't think it's a good word. And it's a weak way to end the argument when he's when he's fought one of the great arguments of all time.

I like it it's subversive it's just like oh yeah unoriginal yeah okay yeah it's not about being smart. It's just like, oh yeah, oh yeah, okay, yeah, it's not about being smart. It's about being true. Do you like the bit that comes a bit later, the coda where he goes up and goes, do you like apples? Well, I got a number. You like those apples? I kind of do like that. Yeah.

Cause it kind of is something you do when you're drunk at the end of the night. Yeah. I think the saying, do you like those apples is obviously in American parlance is like a thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But I think it was introduced to Australia through that moment in that film. And I think, you know what I mean? It gets used a little bit now. Yeah, yeah.

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