The Unmade Podcast - 169: The Ultimate Tom Hanks Episode

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

It’s award season and we are dishing out colonelships and medals - plus some West Wing stuff and an idea called “since when”.Catch the bonus Request Room episode here - https://www.patreon.com/posts/141116852Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFMJoin the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/Unmade_Podcast/Catch the podcast on YouTube where we often include accompanying videos and pictures - https://www.youtube.com/@unmadepodcastUSEFUL LINKSAlan Stewart - https://www.numberphile.com/podcast/alan-stewartThe Owl’s spreadsheet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yBjcOPMrSETwZxiQTpupODC4EAYVZFSauuqJFKZIGcwTom Hanks - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000158/Tom Hanks filmography - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tom_Hanks_performances_and_creditsKylie Pentelow receives The Brady Haran Medal - https://www.patreon.com/posts/kylie-receives-136923303Kylie’s new podcast, Down With The Kids - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/down-with-the-kids/id1838412996Catch the bonus Request Room episode - https://www.patreon.com/posts/141116852

There are medals to be given today, but we'll get to that in a minute. It's award season. Award season for movies doesn't really come around until January, February, doesn't it? Today. Today it's award season for us. Octoberfest, award season for the Unmade podcast. But first, let's do some parish notices quickly. Last episode, Tim talked about naps, and we heard a lot about that.

So I just thought I'd read a couple of messages from you guys. BC me, BC me said, napping is the worst. I always wake up more tired than I was before. I have never found the perfect nap time. A nap is a crappy trailer for a good night's sleep. Controversial. That's a nice line.

I do agree. It's a bit of a gamble, isn't it? I think the shorter the nap, the better, or the safer at least anyway. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, we came home from church yesterday, and I just sat, you know, eating some lunch on the couch, and then was watching, catching up on a political show from the morning that I'd missed,

and I fell asleep and then woke up again in the same sitting-up position with my hand rest against, you know, the edge of the couch. So it was a total sit-up, lean kind of nap, and I felt like a whole new girl. Like, it was really reinvigorating. Well, Tim, you're going to love this message then that came from Form Firm, who says, greatest nap. My grandfather, who was Dutch, would. come home from hard physical labour to eat at 12 p.m. After eating mashed potatoes with vegetables

and half a meat bowl, he would nap, crossed his arms on the table and lay down his head on those arms. He would sleep while everyone around him was still eating and talking. And when he woke up, he would play piggyback with us kids and then hasten to get back to work. Oh, that's awesome. Maybe it's a Dutch thing then. Maybe. The ability to block out everyone around you and just switch off in position. Tea time in Paris said, Best nap guaranteed is the one after you donate blood. You're a pint lighter, so you sleep super soundly,

plus you feel good knowing your saving lives. I didn't know that it makes you tired to lose blood. I've given blood once to the Red Cross. This is not for a blood test, obviously, but a proper giving blood. But I don't remember being tired afterwards, but they do get you to sit there for a bit, don't they, and then give you a lolly?

I say you get lightheaded So yeah Don't leave Oh there's all those things Anytime you have all those sort of doctor treatments They say make Go and sit in the waiting room for 10 minutes Don't leave until you feel recovered

I know You just always leave straight away Like yeah Yes yes of course Yes yes so I won't I won't do that You jump straight in the car And off you go

You put that in the same category Of like when your mum says You can't go back in the swimming pool You know for an hour after you've eaten It's like you've got to be kidding I mean what's the worst that could happen surely Or when you buy cotton buds or Q-tips and the rules of using them and says, do not put these in your ear, they are not used to be put in your ear.

And everyone's like, yeah, okay, yeah, I won't put them in my ear. Yeah, all right. Straight in the ear. Pens should say that as well, shouldn't they? Do not clean out your ear with a pen. Certainly not a communal pen. Speaking of weird habits and things people do, if you're a Patreon supporter or become one,

hang around for today's request room. We've got a very interesting question about something that Australians may or may not do that I'll be very interested to hear Tim's opinion on but we'll get to that in the request room. Patreon supporters or become a Patreon supporter and listen to the request room. It all happens there.

Wow, I'm intrigued already. Tim, we haven't bestowed any colonelships for a while. These are people who do a great service to the podcast. We mentioned it was award season. and I would like to propose the awarding of three new colonelships if you will give it the rubber stamp. All right, all right. Hang on, we probably should explain.

These are named in honour of Colonel Sanders, of course. We take his prefix and use it and apply it across. I mean, if you've listened to more than five minutes of the podcast, you'll have picked that up. But I just think it is clear for new listening. I also think Colonel Sanders did not invent the use of the term Colonel, by the way. No, indeed. No, it's not.

He was an honorary colonel of Kentucky. It was not military in any way. That's an honour bestowed by, I think, like, the government of Kentucky, and he was made one of their colonels, I think. So we have podcast kernels who do great services to our podcast. And there are three people who have done us service over the years, and I'd like to propose them to enter the fold of colonelship. Well, just like McDonald's didn't come up with the idea of burglaring when they invented the hamburgler. No. It didn't already exist, but they, you know, became known for it.

Here we go. I would like to propose for a colonelship, the maestro Alan Stewart, my official music composer. Yes. Almost all the sound effects and jingles, almost all the music you ever hear on the unmade podcast, and all my videos for that matter, but that's irrelevant. We're only talking about the podcast. Are created by Alan Stewart. I think he should be Colonel Alan Stewart. My interaction with Alan, apart from the wonderful contribution is made to the podcast, has been a single email. By golly, he seems like such. a nice guy. I think he's almost deserving of a colonel based on that email alone. If you could give colonelships just for being nice, Alan would get one. He's one of the nicest guys

out there, but he's also a musical genius. And I know the Unmade Podcast Music perhaps is not the best examples of his work, because it's a bit off tune and things that go a bit skew if, but that was by request when I commissioned Alan to create a lot of our sound effects and jingles and things. I said, I always want there to be like a bum chord or a note that doesn't work and that. That's kind of the joke. So that's all very deliberate. And Alan always delivers as you order. So Colonel Alan Stewart. 100% support. Rubber stamp stamped. Congratulations. Colonel Alan Stewart. Next I would like to propose a Canadian. Leo Ortega, who goes by the nickname or moniker of

owl as in who who owl um we've heard of ows yes yes i was i didn't think you hadn't heard of ours i was more worried owl is a hard word to say like on its own without any context i'm worried people won't know what the word is what is he saying owl as in he stepped on a nail or like you know owl a owl yeah we get you all right yeah just making sure i'm clear on that uh leo leo is the keeper of a massive line spreadsheet of every episode of the Unmade Podcast, which I find very useful as a reference guide, who had what ideas and when, who were special guests. It's quite thorough. It's a useful resource. It has taken a lot of work and dedication. And I think that really needs to be recognised, that level of dedication to the show. Look, I admire that, but I have to say I would only

find it useful if I could remember where it is. Are you able to send me a link? I've sent you the link numerous times i'll send it to you again absolutely i'll put it in the show notes as well for this episode so people can go and look at it and leo has fallen behind he's several episodes behind now i'm not holding that against him and i'm hoping maybe this colonel ship will also act as motivation for him to get back on track and get the head down well perhaps i should hold off my rubber stamping until it's caught up or do you think that's a little bit churlish i i think that would perhaps be a little unfair considering all the work that's come before so colonel leo the owl

No one wishes the podcast would, you know, call it a day and wrap it up than he does. He's got himself detached out to something that he's needing to maintain. But anyway, well done. Yes, no, absolutely. You're in. I'm happy to bestow on this occasion. Colonel Ship, which doesn't get you, by the way, any, you know, favoritism at KFC, we should add. I mean, if there was some sort of, you know, I mean, gosh, we've tried about as hard as we can to get some.

sort of discount vouchers or special memberships at KFC, and it's not happening. I think it feels like they're willfully ignoring us. It is. It is. Yes. That's right. No one talks about KFC more than us, and they're quite fun on the old social media. You know, they don't mind, you know, joking around and interacting, but they're like completely

blanking us. They don't talk about KFC more than we do. Like, surely, just out of rivalry, they should be able to. And last but not least, another musical contributor, a chat named Matt M, who has helped me quite a bit over the years insofar as he created the Spoon of the Week jingle and Autotune and the Moon of the Week jingle, and he's helped me with a few other ones as well along the way. So he's sort of a behind the scenes musical helper. And I can't give a colonelship to Alan and not recognise Matt M. So Tim, with your permission, I would like to also send one of our

colonel certificates and recognition to Matt. Congratulations, Matt. Yes, I'm happy to endorse that particular colonel ship as well. Is there going to be a ceremony for these colonel ships at all, man? Are you going to be meeting with these people at a palace somewhere or at a Kentucky fried chicken outlet? You know, I do do those ceremonies. I record those ceremonies with a certificate where I have the wax stamp because there's

like a, there is like a wax seal for people who become a colonel with Tim's face on it. So I will at some point record three ceremonies for those people and put them on the YouTube channel. But in terms of meeting them at a palace, I don't know. An unmade palace would be quite the edifice. Maybe we should work on that. Never quite finished. Work on that as in hire someone to start designing it and building it for us. Is that what you mean?

You're going to get a text for me one day saying, Tim, you're going to be receiving no dividends from the unmade podcast for the next. 400 years. Is there any money left after we bought the medals? I think it's pretty... I don't think it's going to pay them off. We say to people, we need your patron support so we can do this, and then we blow it all our medals, and then it's like, actually, we're going to build a palace.

It's like, oh, right, okay, no worries. We actually need your patron support to dig us out of debt. That's right, to get a flat to make this thing. Oh, dear. We're going to be giving away colonel ships like bonds, selling them onto people, so we can get ourselves going again. Well, congratulations, you three. That's great.

How many unmade kernels are there now? There must be... Oh, let me tell you. I'll tell you. Eight, nine? Unmade podcast. I'll find out for you, colonel ships,

because they're written on the bottom of the wall of thank you page underneath all the Patreon supporters. So we've got a long list of Patreon supporters. And then down the bottom here, we have unmade kernels. We have Zach, Joe, Katrina, Quentin and Carmine,

Derek and Jake, Lucy, Anonymous, Star, Truman, Eric, and now Alan, Leo, and Matt. So that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, eleven, fourteen. Fourteen. Wow. How many knights of the garter are there? You know, there's that it's like the highest level of night that you can be in the UK. And there's only a certain number ever allowed in the club at any time, order of the garter. Oh, yeah.

William's in there, isn't he? But now the Queen's gone, so maybe someone else joins. 24. You only ever have 24 companions. Is that based on the old round table, you know, the mythic sort of knights of the round table? How many chairs you reckon they had? I don't think it's based on that, but maybe it is. Who are the current members?

Where can I find the current members? There's the founders. Members. Current list. Duke of Kent, Princess Royal, Duke of Gloucester, Princess Alexandra, Duke of York. So there's Duke of Edinburgh, Prince of Wales, the Queen, Duchess of Gloucester. And here are the ones that aren't, now then we've got another bunch of royals. So I don't think those ones count.

There's a whole bunch of royals and there's a whole bunch of foreign royals. They don't count. But the actual proper ones are the Duke of Abercorn, Lord Butler of Brockwell, Sir John Major, so there's often a lot of former prime ministers. The Lord, loose, law. I won't read them all. Let's find any that you will know. You know, the rest of the world just looks at the UK and thinks that, you know,

most people are referred to in this way. Yeah. It's like a bunch of chimney sweeps in the underclass, and then everyone else is like the Duke of this and the Lord of that. There's a lot of empties. There's four empty spaces at the moment. Andrew Lloyd Webber is one. What?

Andrew Lloyd Webber. Yep, he's one. Because they usually go to also like people, like great people who've accomplished great things as well, like, you know, like Nobel Prize winners and stuff. These are not just people that have been knighted. I mean, there's like hundreds of them. They give those away like chips. No, no, no, no, these are next level.

There's just these 24 positions. And often they're like, you know, former United Nations Undersecretary General for Humanitarian Affairs. Or they could be an Olympic gold medalist and things like that as well. But there's also a lot of, you know, friends of friends, the chief of the defence staff, chief law, justice and all that sort of stuff. Right, right. So it's high, absolute high achievers, you know.

And they win those, they get to where those, those, those, puffy purple sort of robes and stuff once a year, I think. Yeah, they do have quite an outfit that they wear. Looking at Knights of the Roundtable, though, like the Knights that really did stuff, it sort of varies a little bit. It seems like there was sometimes a dozen, and then it goes up to like 1600. So there was quite a lot of knights. But of course, there's all the really famous ones.

So are Knights of the Round Table a real thing? I thought that was like a mythical thing, like King Arthur's mythical. No, no, it's a mythical thing. Yeah, yeah. They're the legendary knights, yeah, of King Arthur. I always know they're a myth, but I always remember, forget who, there's no one author, is there, who wrote about them? They just sort of permeated. Who's the most famous one?

Who's the one that Richard Gere played? Is it Lancelot? Lancelot. Yeah, Lancelot. That's it. Yeah. Is there like a more awesome cool guy than Lancelot in that King Arthur movie with Sean Connery? Camelot. What's it called that Camelot film? First Night? First Night, or is that the one with, there's the Robin Hood one, which, but that doesn't have.

the knights in it. I don't think I've seen the one you mean. I really love, like, medieval films, but I feel like they, the only good ones were back in the olden days, you know, when people are swinging across. It is first night. It is first night. And Richard Gears in it, and he plays like Lancelot, who joins King Arthur. Sean Connery is King Arthur. Right. But Gwynnevere, King Arthur's wife, is, oh, what's her name, that actress that was in loads of films for a little while. Julia Ormond. Oh, yeah.

And she ends up folling for Lance a lot. And they have a bit of a romance and breaks King Arthur's heart. But there's never like, you know when you look at certain films where there's a guy and he's just so perfect and attractive and awesome? Like Brad Pitt in Legends of the Fall where you think, oh gosh, even I fancy him. Yeah. Like, because he's just so perfect. Richard Gere in First Night is a brilliant example of like peak man.

just like handsome and rugged and rebellious but still perfect and gentlemanly and good to his core but a little bit naughty he's just like oh man that's where that's where chivalrous that's where chivalrous comes from it's like women want him and men want to be him sort of thing that's like absolute peak i have to watch that i have to i don't think i've ever seen that i know the film you mean and it was around the place and stuff but you would i think you would like it i don't know whether because you've come to this party late

it might seem dated and not your type of film. But at the time, it was just peak. Yeah, awesome. Can I just say, I watched, talk about Come to the Party late. I watched a 90s movie today. I've been watching a lot of Clint Eastwood movies and particularly the westerns and stuff. But today I watched in the line of fire where he plays a secret service agent in 19. It's like 1993.

And it's so dated. And there's so many holes in the plot all over the place. It's just ridiculous how. how traumatised he is in one scene and then suddenly he's the guy right next to the president in the next scene and it's just a ridiculous movie. It's just absolutely crazy. And then his love interest is also the one who's right there on the scene. Isn't his love interest in that film like about a hundred years younger than him as well? No, no. It's René Russo who actually, she was in a lot of movies in the 90s, even though in retrospect, she kind of feels like she's

everyone's mom. He's old, isn't he though? Oh, no, that well, that's true. Yeah, he's, that's, That's right. He's playing like a veteran. He was at, the thing, the premise is that he was the Secret Service guy at JFK and it all went wrong, as you may have heard. And then now he's like, you know, there's a guy that's out to, but it's not even that he's on the president's detail. He goes on to the president's detail in order to catch a guy that's after the president. And you would have think this guy's the worst guy to be putting on there going after him. But of course, through all these kinds of flukes, he ends up being the guy that, well, I won't spoil it. it's just ridiculous

we mentioned it was award season we've decided to award another Tim Hyde medal and Brady Harron medal that's right talking about people that will soon need secret service protection can I go first I've got a medal to award you do you said you brought it up

and I've thought of someone else who's come to mind very strongly but you lead the wave because I know you're passionate about it All right, I've got one to award. We will play the official Tim Hine and Brady Haren Medal fanfare created by Colonel Alan Stewart. So here we go, let's play the fanfare.

The winner of the next Brady Haring and Medal is. It's Tom Hanks. This is one of those who was going to get in first with Tom Hanks' kinds of situations. Oh, we love him. We love him. Legend. We both love him for our own reasons. Some of the same, some different.

Tim, I've written, as I did last time, I've written a bit of a official citation, if I may. Oh, you've actually penned something down, worded with carefully. Just a little, just put a few little words, just threw a few little words together. You were just doodling, writing a poem about Tom anyway, so you thought, well, I know what I can use this for. Here's my citation for Tom Hanks winning the Brady Haren Medal. Tom Hanks movies have been a fixture at many milestones in my life. My sister and I would watch big, almost to the point that the VHS cassette wore out. The Money Pit was the first movie I saw at the cinema with my mum on a mother and son night out.

Sleepless in Seattle, Philadelphia, Forrest Gump, saving Private Ryan. Tom Hanks's maturation as America's movie star coincided with my own maturation and sophisticated as a moviegoer. As a favourite actor of my wife, he's always been a popular talking point at home. Kylie once declared Hanks would be her choice to star in her own movie biopic. Of course, it can be argued, he is just a small part of a huge movie-making process with directors, co-stars, writers, cinematographers, etc., all playing their part. But Tom Hanks' success rate seems too high to be mere serendipity. and the awarding of this medal goes beyond him just being a famous movie star.

Tom Hanks's endeavours, example and attitude has infiltrated other parts of my life. Of course he's become a fixture of the Unmade Podcast. Our go-to exemplar of a likable famous person, his unmade alleged status was cemented by the donation of a signed copy of his uncommon type book as a birthday present for Tim. Yes. But the aspect of his career, which tips. Hank's into medal-winning status is his passion and work to promote space exploration, particularly

the Apollo program. After famously portraying Jim Lovell in Apollo 13, Hanks has gone on to work on numerous other related projects. He famously produced and fronted the HBO series from the Earth to the Moon, a masterful 12-part presentation of why the Apollo program means so much to me. Other projects are followed, an IMAX movie and The Moonwalkers A Journey Project, Hank's fanboying and dedication to Apollo dwarfs even my own. And I'll be honest, my decision has also been influenced by the fact my wife Kylie, the inaugural Brady-Harran medalist, can now claim Tom Hanks is the second winner. Tom Hanks has more trophies and awards than he knows what to do with,

but now a golden, glittering Brady-Harran medal can be added to the cabinet. crowning achievement sure Yep That's it He wept for there Were no more awards Left to win

Here we go Oh wow He is lovely Is he Well I was thinking Though Does he fall into the category

That you were using Before of You know Women want to be with him And guys You know Want to be him I don't

No I don't think He falls into that category Like you know He's a handsome dude And You know, I'm sure a lot of ladies think he's a handsome dude, but I wouldn't put him like a sex symbol, like Brad Pir or Richard Gere or anything. He's more wholesome than that.

Yeah, he's a different category, isn't he? I think he's a different category. America's dad, I've heard him called. Like, you know, he's often called America's dad. He's got that kind of fatherliness to him, like a warmth and comfort, more than a warmth and comfort. That's right. Well, that's why they talk about him being this sort of modern-day Jimmy's

Stuart, who was that sort of figure in history. Yes. Extremely the reliable sort of person, the likable person, the person you wish was your father, you know, that kind of guy. But I feel like he's been that even when he was younger too. You know, there's something reassuring about him. I was thinking, I always remember thinking about him and like Tom Hanks and Tom Cruise as being a bit of a pair and how Tom Cruise is very much that former kind of that Hollywood

star hot guy right and and and and then tom hanks as kind of his affable kind of you know buddy or or you know other other guy but but i reckon somewhere along the line they in terms of they switched like where tom cruises very much remained within a groove but tom hanks has launched into the stratosphere i think he's respected now enormously whereas tom cruises a bit of a joke i don't No, I think, yeah, Tom Cruise's, I mean, Tom Cruise's private life has probably led to him being derided a little bit in some circles. But, yeah, yeah, I hear you, I hear you. Certainly, I think Tom Hanks' legend is sort of assured, you know. Yes, yes.

I mean, he hasn't got a flawless record, you know. I'm not going to, I'm not going to sit here and, you know, pretend he didn't make the circle. but but but he's done a lot of good stuff he's got a lot of credit in the bank he can make a few duff films if he wants and experiment not even not even bob dillon's got like a flawless record like it's yeah you know like you're gonna go easy at one point yeah but there's there's a he does have a very very high strike rate he does he does yeah and and it's not even that he's bland he's very distinctively himself you know his voice um there's a way about him, yeah, he's very much his kind of own man in a way.

Well, we talk about his high strike rate. I asked Tim, and I've done the same thing, to come up with our top 10 favorite Tom Hanks movies. And I thought we might run through our top 10. I think go from 10 to 1, should we? All right, all right. And let's see how similar or different our lists are. Just before we started recording, like within the last hour, I made a change around the middle order, but I did make a change and edit because I wasn't feeling 100% comfortable with what I'd ordered.

what I'd put down, you know, at the pub earlier today. So I'm not 100% happy with mine, but I'm not going to change it. Was yours just a changing of positions or did you insert a whole new movie? No, no, just a changing of positions. Oh, okay. Oh, that's minor then. Well, let's start at both of our number 10s. Would you like to go first or me?

Maybe you should take the lead now. I've been hogging the microphone a bit. Well, mine is a bit of a controversial one. And I know this won't be on your list. But I've decided to go with number 10. You'll roll your eyes at this, but I have a very good reason for doing it. It's a documentary called California Typewriter. This is a documentary about typewriters in which Tom Hanks appears and is in full flight

kind of as Tom Hanks. And I firstly, the one thing I know we have in common is this passion for typewriters. Well, it's one of the many things we have in common, obviously. Yeah, incredible wealth. Fame. Worldwide recognition. We've both seen a lot of his movies That's something else we haven't come

But the other reason is because in this Tom Hanks is being Tom Hanks You know what I mean? He's not acting a role Now I know all the movies on your list It's when he's pretending to be someone else But if you're a real Tom Hanks fan Then you'll love Tom Hanks for being Tom Hanks And so I love him in this documentary for being himself He's a very good talk show guest

That's another time I mean you say he's being himself How much is he being himself? I've never met him without cameras you know. And one thing movie stars are good at is putting on a show, even if they're being interviewed on a talk show. So I don't know. Maybe he's, maybe behind the scenes. He's not charming and funny and affable, but I feel like he probably is. And yeah, okay, my number 10 is sleepless in Seattle. Oh. I wanted to have one of these rom-coms in there. And, you know, if I'm 100% honest, if sleepless in Seattle and you've got male were on two different channels at the

same time. I'd probably watch, you've got mail. Like, I probably find that a bit more engaging and watchable because it's a bit more modern, although it's quite dated now as well. And Sleepless in Seattle does feel like an old film now when you watch it. And sometimes this is a bit flabby. Yeah. But I think if I'm going to own up, I think I've put Sleepless in Seattle on there instead of you've got mail because it makes me sound cooler because it's a film with a bit more credibility. And it was the first. It was the first one. So I've probably done that one a little bit for show. And it is a great film. It is a great film. And iconic, iconic film, iconic finale. It is. It's a clever film as well, if people haven't seen it because it's back

from the early 90s. Because they don't meet until the end. It's a romantic comedy where they don't meet. No, no, they don't share any screen time, really. Oh, they see each other across a road, but yeah, they don't, they're not in the sort of the same shot until right at the very end. Unlike you've got male, this is Meg Ryan, of course. Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan. They, unlike, you've got mail where they share a lot of screen time. That's right. In both ways, a lot of laptop screen time, typing emails as well as time on the film screen.

Very droll, blackadder. Well done. Number nine. Number nine is where I had Philadelphia. I feel like it's a better film than it should be number nine. And it's where he won his first best actor. But I like it, but I don't love it as a film. I kind of admire it.

it's an admirable story, but as a film, I don't, I don't love it. So it's, so it's there. I mean, look, what's he made? Like 40 films or something and we've got 10. So it's made the list. Yeah. But it's, it's down the bottom. Yeah.

Okay. I'll just say it at this point, because Tim and I aren't going to forecast what's coming ahead, but I will say this now because I feel like I have to. Philadelphia is not on my list. Oh, right. But I have seen Philadelphia, and it's a good film. I saw it like when it came out. I remember it only vaguely.

And, yeah, it's not a film I've bonded with and it's not on my list. I do feel like it's a zeitgeist movie. And there's a couple of movies like this in Tom Hanks' filmography where, like, society kind of pivots in its opinions about something. Or it's, you know what I mean, like kind of entered into the zeitgast in a particular way. And I feel like Philadelphia is that, for sure. Number nine on my list is catch me if you can. And it's kind of almost on there a bit reluctantly because I feel like it's not really Tom Hanks's show, is it?

a Leonardo DiCaprio film and most of what I like about the film are probably Leonardo DeCaprio scenes but I feel like Tom Hanks has a big enough role in it yeah and and puts enough into the film for it to count as a Tom Hanks film yeah yeah and I think it's a good film I enjoy it and I've put it in at number nine and he plays a good character too the sort of FBI agent on the chase yeah number eight for you number eight is where I have big okay big wasn't as big for me as it was for you because I watched it in adulthood, not in childhood. But I think it's a very clever film, and of that kind of film of which there's been a hundred copies since, it's the original and the best.

Number eight for me, I've lumped together the Toy Story series. I mean, so many of the Toy Story films, I think, are very good. So a few of them could maybe sneak into a top ten list, particularly some of the later ones, you know, two, three, four's good. But Tim and I agreed beforehand that we could count the Toy Story series as one collective. And I've put that at number eight. You know, he's just a voice. He voices the main character of Woody. But, you know, he's become very associated with the role. And I think it has to count as a Tom Hanks movie. And they're very good movies. So Toy Story, number eight for me. Number seven is where I have Forrest Gump. Right. The Academy Awards in

1994 had Forrest Gump and Pulp Fiction and the Shawshank Redemption. Just incredible. Solid. And of those films, I'd have to say Forrest Gump is my least favorite, but I feel like it needs to be on there. I mean, this is another zeitgeist film where the character becomes bigger than the film and, you know, becomes one of those iconic characters. And he created that character. And it's a clever film and I get sucked in if it's on TV into watching it again. So I can't. There's lots of flaws in it. you know, I don't love it as a film, but somehow I just keep watching it over and over again when it's on TV. Number seven for me is The Money Pit. It's an early Tom Hanks film. I haven't

seen it for a long time. I very much have put this in for sentimental reasons because it really was quite formative for me. It's like because I went and saw it with my mum at the cinema at a time where I was probably a little bit young to see it, it had a lot to do with me kind of, you know, being introduced to a few adult ideas. I don't mean inappropriate adult ideas. It was just a little bit old for me. And therefore, there were lots of concepts in it

that I probably didn't fully understand because it's about selling houses and relationship problems and things like that. But I also had some funny, zany sequences in it and comedy sequences that appealed to the little kid in me. And I don't know. I've just got like a, it just holds a special place in my heart

for memories and things. like that. So I've put that in there for sentimental reasons. Well, full disclosure, the money pit is not on my list. Okay. And I don't think I've ever seen the money pit. I have no memory, so I will go and check it out. What's your number six? I can't read my writing.

Oh, you've got mail. Okay. That's where I had, you've got mail. I thought about that in Seapleas in Seattle as well, but you've got mail, I much prefer. Yep. I think it's really clever. I really like that it's about books. It's got that whole notion of the, you know,

David and Goliath sort of battle of an independent bookstore up against the big bad chain. Yep. I like that he's so likable, even though he's kind of the head of the big bad chain and Fox Books. I just liked this film. I loved it when it came out. I remember exactly where I was, which cinema at Marion Shopping Center that I saw it, and I've seen it heaps of times since. And again, I'd watch it if it was on, and I came across it.

He's just, he's great. He's great. He's Tom Hags, that's what he is. Yeah. number six i've got big you know just to film kids love taps into what it's like to being a kid when you you know you're feeling like filmmakers get kids even though they're adults you feel like adults understand kids tom hanks does a great job playing a kid yeah such a fantasy to live that life he's living in that film the magic of the zoltar machine like yeah still still hits you today

just yeah just that's childhood big is one of those childhood films So that just sticks with you. Number five is where I have Catch Me if you can. I agree with the comments that you made. But I've put it in there. I really love this film. And not for Leonardo DiCaprio. I'm not a massive fan of his, as I think I've mentioned before.

But this film, yeah, is clever. And the father, who's played by Christopher Walken is, I mean, he carries it beautifully. I mean, he's really masked, really. And so that notion of being a man who's underwhelmed by his own life and so fakes and lies to make up for it. That's a really interesting story to me and the son who then pretends to be someone else. Very clever story.

But Tom Hanks, you know, has a key role within it. So as a film as a whole, yeah, I really like that film. Really love it. My number five is Apollo 13. Obviously, I'm an Apollo fan, which makes me a harsh critic of films about space and Apollo and the moon. This is a great film, great performances, looks fantastic. is fairly loyal to the subject material.

It's great, just a good watch. Like, I don't love it. I don't put it on all the time. I show the rocket launch scene to Edward all the time, my little boy, because he loves watching Rockets launch. But just a good, just a good solid film. Like, you know, it's the canonical going to the moon space film, isn't it? Because it was so good.

Good film, yeah. It was. I mean, I remember we saw, in fact, several of these films we saw together when they came out, and we saw this together. And I remember the rocket scene just, I remember almost like standing up and applauding at the end of it. It was so exhilarating. It's like, wow, that's incredible. Yeah.

It's not on my list, though, I have to say. Okay. Number four. Number four for me is castaway. Yep. Which I'm surprised is this high on my list. But I've come to admire this film a lot. One of the reasons is it has Helen Hunt, but apart from that, is.

is he kind of carries a whole film on his own. I mean, that's really quite something. That really is quite something. It's also, it's a performance that's so strong that it's entered into the zeitgeist as well. You know, the Wilson kind of relationship, he pulls that off. That could so easily have been silly and have not worked, but it works perfectly.

And I think there's something that really appeals to me and totally appealed to me when I saw the trailer for it. And I think maybe every young boy, There's that idea of being stuck on an island. Yeah. Watching Swiss family Robinson and all that stuff, there's like, that is the dream for that to happen, actually, really. That's what we've wanted. It's all we ever want.

Yeah. This gives me enough of all the cool stuff that you imagine would be part and parcel of that scenario. So I think I've grown to love this film more and more as we've gone on. Really good film. Number four for me is Forrest Gump. I mean, what more is it to say about it? It is a film like, it's kind of cheesy and a bit saccharine, but it always makes me cry at a few different points. And it's just like the quintessential Hollywood blockbuster film.

There's so much happening. It's all so well done. You've got Vietnam War. You've got Elvis Presley. You've got all these iconic moments through history played around with. It's a great performance by him. It's a great performance by everyone in the film. It's just like, it's just a rollicking good time.

It's just a, it's just a film you like, like. I like it. I don't even want to like it that much. I don't even want it to be that high, but it's just good. It's good film. I remember, I remember we had free tickets to see this right on a Sunday morning and I went to church and you went and saw this. And I remember you saying, come on, come and see this film, Forrest Gump. And for some reason, I want to go to church, even though I wasn't attending church regularly at that time, but you went and saw it. And you were telling me later on, you were going, it's changed the way. I look at the world. You said that to me. Really? Yeah.

Oh, I don't remember saying that, but yeah, okay. Number three for me is Toy Story. All of them or a particular one, or are you sort of lumping them? I'm lumping them all together, but my favourite, by far, is number three, which I think is one of the greatest films ever made. Is that the one where they go in the furnace at the end? It's, oh, I don't remember. With the pink bear, with the pink bear, and they go to nursery,

and it's got the furnace at the end? Oh, maybe. I don't actually remember it all the plotline. They're all mashed in my head. The scene that broke me is when he gives the toys away, you know, that's sort of passing on to the next generation. I mean, that was maybe because it came at a particular time with my daughters, but my goodness, what a fantastic film. And I think these are really great films. I think they have a wonderful, they have a wonderful message, but they have a wonderful heart to them.

In a funny way, remember when Toy Story came out, it was championed as being the first cartoon that had been made on a computer. and I don't know what we were expecting but it was amazing to see it was pretty soon after the Lion King which had been pretty amazing as well so that sort of cartoon kind of image was you know that was staggering this around I think the first one when you watch

it seems a bit dated now the animation but the ones after that still hold up Toy Story 3 is fantastic this is the one where also at the end there's the scene where they're going down into a furnace in the rubbish chip and they all hold hands thinking that's the end for them all and the last thing they decided

to do is hold hands and it's the fact they hold hands that sees them rescued because the the claw then comes and pulls them out so they all come out together which is a nice message in itself also so i mean all the toy story films are very clever but the the notion of what it's like being a toy living in a children's nursery was really funny as well and that's introduced in this film so yeah great great so i've got them i've got them right up there i've got them at number three which is i can't argue i know and i know it's voice and all that but i've just i'm looking And I get these, brilliant. Well, this is what arts for.

This is great, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's hard when you say Tom Hanks films. How much does it have to be Tom Hanks to be in it? But, yeah, my number three is the Green Mile, which I love a good jail film. I love a film that's also got a little bit of magicy supernaturalness to it as well, which this obviously has. And lots of great performances, a good long film you can really settle into, I like, but never gets boring, beautiful look, you know, I love it.

I love the Green Mile. That's a perfect segue to my number two, which is the Green Mile. Okay. It has a lovely feel to it too. I don't know what they've done with the screen, but the way it looks and the ambiance of it, it feels like a certain type of older story book. I don't know, the pictures, it's almost, there's something they've used on the lens and people who know more about films wouldn't know more about this.

But there's a particular look it has that makes it look like a really beautiful picture in an old story book of a story. So it has like a story feel to it. I know Stephen King wrote it. And yeah, it's clever, it's wonderful, got a great message, great performances, totally believable all the way through. Poor Tom Hanks spends half the time in the toilet in anguish. But apart from that.

Yeah. So my number two, which I'm suspecting is going to be your number one, judging from the way the lists have gone is saving Private Ryan. What can you say about it? Like, genius filmmaking, opening sequence that defies belief and stays with you forever. Great characters, great story, gripping, important. Yeah, amazing film. And Tom Hanks is fantastic in it, of course.

Oh, that's right. Yeah, no, that is my number one. My number one is saving Private Ryan, which is very much, I know it, it's very much a Tom Hanks. Hank's film. I mean, he's a main character leading these guys throughout. Yep. And the idea of Tom Hanks as a soldier in war, you know, that wouldn't have been maybe, I mean, maybe it was an easy sell. I don't know, but he's totally believable. Yeah. I like the fact that his character is also a school teacher, you know, who goes to, so he's got that sort of, he's not a battle-hardened, vindictive person. He's a good person,

clearly a kind person. There's an element of grace, even though he's there to do a job. he's not soft. Yeah, he's quite a marvellous sort of leader of these men and it's a superb film in so many ways, isn't it? Yeah. And again, it felt like a new moment in cinema with that opening sequence. It felt like, oh gosh, we're really in this. The camera went underwater and comes up again and it's brutal. So well done Stephen Spielberg, but yeah. Yeah, Stephen Spielberg played a role. He had a little bit to do with that as well. Yeah. Great film. Great film. My number is castaway it's a film

I don't know Tim touched on one of the reasons I think it taps into that desert island thing that so many young people have a bit of mystique about

great performance from him you know he puts in an amazing performance I kind of thought he'd win an Oscar for it I can't remember who beat him that year but it's all a bit arbitrary isn't it but also I love how the film

was broken into chapters but the chapters all just flowed together really well. I love the first part when he's doing his job for FedEx and he's got his relationship with Helen Hunt and he's this busy guy who runs by the watch. And then I love the crash sequence. I love a good playing crash of course. So of course I love the crash sequence. I love that chapter when he's first on the island and coming to grips with what's going on. Great, just gripping. And then I love the three years later to see how he's changed and what his life has become and then I love when he finally decides to try and escape the island and gets

you know found what a great chapter there and then I love the final chapter when he gets back to civilisation they're all sort of discrete excellent parts and yet they flow together and belong together naturally as well beautifully put together film well acted looks cool looks great just it's just a it's just a film that just really appeals to me I don't watch it very often I've probably watched it seven or eight times in my life maybe I don't know but it's just a just a really good great film I love it yeah good desert island film it's also got those two chapters remember he he because I think they filmed quite a several months apart the time because he loses quite a bit of weight and all that yes I think they went away for quite a while he went on a street diet then

came back and filmed those bits before he did the other stuff yeah which makes sense now when you think of it but you don't think of it just watch I assume the beard is fake He didn't just grow this massive long beard But perhaps he could have Any films you were sorry that didn't make the list I know a lot of people are probably going to think Captain Phillips should be on the list

Captain Phillips I thought was a good film But I don't love it And there's an element of favourite in this There's Road to Perdition Which is a handsome film I think the cinematography is beautiful in that film But I don't love it as a plot and a story Do you have any that you not really?

No, no, I was a bit sorry I didn't put you've got mail on there, but I made my decision. No, Captain Phillips, yeah, you're right. Like Captain Phillips, it's great, solid film, but the one time I watched it, it just didn't grab me. It could have just been the mood I was in, and it hasn't been around long enough for me to watch it more times. Road to Perdition, I've only seen once. I remember when I watched it, I thought it was great. It was interesting to see him playing a villain. but again, or anti-hero, he's not really a villain, is it?

He's still, you know, redeemable, but yeah, no, I'm all right with my list, but we're very curious to hear, see other people's top 10 in order and what ones you might put on your list. Make sure you submit your own top 10 Tom Hanks films to us. What about Sully, with your love of planes and so forth? You didn't think of putting Sully in? That's a film I'd like to see again. I thought about it.

I've seen it a couple of times. I like it. But not that much happens. And, you know, they have a crash and everyone gets out. And then there's a hearing about it. I don't know, there's not much, there's not much arc to the story. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

So, no. What about the Da Vinci Code and Angels and Demons? Da Vinci Code I did think about because it's not a popular opinion, but I like the Da Vinci Code. I don't so much like the other ones that came afterwards in that series. but I think the Da Vinci Code's a solid film. I love the music in the Da Vinci Code. Da Vinci Code is probably 11.

Yeah, we're right. Yeah, okay. Not Tom Hanks' finest hair moment, though. No, no. It's quite a bit of puffy hair going on there. As in the terminal, my daughter put a strong vote in for the terminal. She really loves that. Yeah.

I don't love it. Watchable, but yeah, I don't. It just doesn't seem that credible. I know it's based on a true story. But it doesn't seem that credible to me. I don't get lost in it the way I get lost in other films. There's another film called That Thing You Do, which I think he actually directed. I know that film very well, and I like that film.

That is a really, that's a good film, yeah. I think you said before that the Money Pit was the first Tom Hanks film you saw, or had you already seen Big? I don't know. He made the Money Pit before Big. And I saw The Money Pit The Cinema, so I must have seen it. at first. Right, okay.

Yeah, yeah. The very first one I saw was Turner and Hooch. Oh, look, that is one that could easily have been. And a lot of people are going to be calling for Splash as well. And Joe versus the volcano. Yeah, there are a lot of those early films that. Those early 80s, early films, yeah. Yeah, good films, good films.

Good Canada films. He's done well. He deserves his medal. He certainly has. It certainly has. In fact, it's a shame he didn't get the Oscar for Turner. and Hooch putting up with all that slime early on. He had to wait another few years.

Yeah, well done. Well, there you go. And now he's got the Brady-Harrin medal. He's done it. What else is there to achieve, surely? I mean, apart from the Tim Hine medal. Well, that may yet come. Well, he's going to have to do something else.

I feel like just going over the same thing again. I feel like he's got to do something else. Yeah. You've got to keep him motivated. We do, do. One could say winning two Academy Awards making the films he's made and sending me a pertlet personally autographed copy of his book you'd think that would be enough but I'm saying no no I want more

I want more I'm hungry for more what else you got Hanks what else you got shall we move on to the awarding of a Tim Hine medal we shall we shall and this is a big moment in fact I want to reach back can actually have it in my hand when i give it okay tell me when i tell me when to play the fanfare the winner of the tim hind medal is kiley pentolo oh my wife yes yes i was i was okay right explain i mean obviously i think she's a worthy winner because she won a brady harrodron medal well it's the dudes i thought there's look there are three good reasons right right okay okay

reason number one is she lives with brady harron which i which is unbelievable right like that is that's that's that's at least a colonelship on its own yeah but secondly i was i was deeply moved by by the fact that she hadn't won anything. And all she's ever won, as you expect, is the Brady-Harran medal. So I thought, well, a bit of sort of favouritism there, isn't there? Yeah, well, I was thinking, well, that's not really. I mean, that's not, I mean, surely she needs something a little bit more prestigious

than the Brady-Harrant medal. So I've decided to award her the Tim Hine medal. Okay. Reasons three to ten are her voice. Right. I just love her voice. You like a nice speaking voice? That's right.

Nice BBC radio and TV voice. Lovely English voice, wonderful cadence, wonderful pronunciation, magnificent, charming personality, wonderful person. So I'm very, I just think it's fantastic. I mean, what an honour for her to not only be the first person awarded the Brady Harron Medal, but the first person to be awarded both the Brady Harron Medal and the Tim Hine Medal. The Grand Slam. That's right. It's like going to the Olympic Games and winning silver,

going back the next year and getting gold. Sure. How are we going to tell her? Massive. I think we should do what we did last time and I'll play it to her as a surprise and film it. Oh, that's a great idea. Make sure you get her to sit down.

You don't want her to faint. I mean, she cried when she won the Brady-Harrin medal. What's she going to say she wins the Tin Heine medal? Massive. And I also love that you awarded the Tim Hine medal to my wife before you awarded it to your wife. Oh, yes. Oh, yes.

Your wife doesn't put up with me. No, that's right. She certainly doesn't live with you, thank God. No. That's big. I'll tell you if she did live with you, she wouldn't be winning the Tim Hine medal. That's for sure.

Oh, dear. So there we go. Dual medals. Wow. Amazing. Got the set. The set, Kylie Pentalo. Look, look, aside from her marvelous voice and living with you and the fact that she

has only won the Brady Harrow Medal, I do admire Kylie Pentelow. I've seen her, I mean, she's on the news, she reads the news. I mean, that's amazing in itself. Imagine being, it's not, I mean, reading the news is quite clever, but imagine being asked to read the news. Like, that's amazing. Nerve-wracking, millions of people, got to do it live, can't make mistakes, can't edit and fix it like we do when we stuff up.

No, indeed. No. No, no. So for all the reasons, and I know you articulated them perfectly in terms of her being a journalist and all she puts up with Anna Mother and all those sorts of other boring reasons. Emotionally, it's a magnificent voice and she lives with you and she's only ever won the Brady Harron Medal.

So now she deserves the Tim Hine Medal. There we go. Got the set. Congratulations, Kali Pantelow, the Grand Slam. Because you were going to say, I mean, you're going to say, I mean, you said before, you know, how awesome is she going to feel when she finds out the second winner of the Brady Harron Medal is Tom Hanks? Well, imagine when she finds out the only other winner so far of the Tim Hine Medal is Michael Bolton. Wow. Massive. I mean, of all the

medals we've awarded, she's won half. She's one. She's one. Michael Bolton, Tom Hanks and Kylie Pentelow. Incredible. And they've only won one each. Look, we've gone through a lot of time, mainly talking about T-Hanks, but... Legend. Shall we do one podcast idea? Well, let's do two podcast ideas from me. What have you got? I've got a mini idea that I want to quickly run by you, because it's a terrible podcast

idea, and then I'll tell you, just a podcast idea, just so we've done one, and Colonel Leo can put it in the spreadsheet. Good-o. What's your mini one? Here's my mini idea. This is not suited to the audio format. I'm the first to admit that. This is more of something you would have to do as a video.

And maybe you and I could do it as a bit of a Patreon bonus content one day. But let me tell you about it. This is called My West Wing opening sequence moment. Right. Because you know how TV shows, lots of TV shows, particularly sitcoms and that, always have an opening song, right? And during the opening song, the opening moment, they show all the characters

and put their names on the screen and in a sitcom it's usually a zany moment you know, here's different strokes starring Gary Coleman and when Gary Coleman's name comes on the screen they'll show a couple of moments cherry picked from the series of them doing something zany and funny

that encapsulates the character and they're usually quite funny in sitcoms but then we have the West Wing which has its beautiful opening music right and during that time we see the names of all the actors the fame Bradley Whitford and all these people who are in there

and when each actor's name comes on screen they always have two shots of them doing something sometimes with an American flag kind of fluttering behind but there's always two shots of the characters taken from different episodes and they're always doing something poignant or moving like

is it from an episode? I'm trying to remember the opening they're not just like looking off to the side or anything are they or... No they are lifted from episodes I think most of them are lifted from the the first two opening episodes. And they never really changed them, I think, through all the years the West Wing's on. They really stuck with them for the most part, except when new characters came in the show, of course.

I think the music built up quite a bit. They got the music much more grand towards the end. Yes, yes, the music did change a bit. So there were these two cherry-picked moments that kind of encapsulate the character. And in the West Wing, they're always very serious and worthy or amazing and special. and they're really burned in your memory if you've watched the show. So my idea called My West Wing opening sequence moment is you get to imagine that you're in the West Wing

and you talk me through what pose you'd want to be doing. What would be like the couple of shots of Tim Hine that would play as the music plays for the West Wing and builds to its crescendo and they cut to starring Tim Hine as, you know, James Smith. spiritual advisor to the president or whatever your character is like what would what would tim be doing like if i like to think maybe you would be the spiritual advisor to the president so maybe it would be you like the first one would be you like meaningfully turning a couple of pages

of the bible or something and the other one would be you kind of just looking to the left meaningfully during an important moment deliberations in the oval office so you get to really be really pretentious and serious and worthy and give me a couple of good West Wing poses I imagine you'd be good at this yeah give me one now on the video man give me a West Wing this is like a cold steel but it's a blue steel sort of look but it's more yeah an action shot blues it was sort of like oh yeah that was nice that was nice that was nice I like intensive looking thoughtful rubbing the beard sort of yeah that sort of

or a whole I like to think mine would be more whimsical I I'd go more like something like that. Like you're asking a question. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'd like to be have a little bit more, yeah, a little bit more like less gravitas in mind. I'd like to be that kind of slightly, because I'd like to think I'd be like the kind of the bit more Josh, a bit more fun.

Yeah, running around flustered head, organizing something. Yeah. But also up for a joke, you know. That's not, yeah, at the end of the day, let's not take this too seriously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my West Wing opening sequence moment where you get to do a couple of posts. So, as I said, not a great podcast, but fun video content.

Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. To think of, what character would you be in the West Wing? Would you be spiritual advisor to the president? Like Matthew McConaughey's character in Contact, who's just this like, remember Matthew McCona, have you seen Contact the film?

No, I don't think I have, no. You must see that. Matthew McConaughey is this like, handsome, awesome, awesome guy but he's also like the spiritual advisor to the president, like, you know, because he's a man of the cloth, but he's also super handsome and sleeps with Jodie Foster and stuff.

But like most of us are. Absolutely. What would I be in the West Wing? I remember someone at work sending around one of those fun online quizzes saying, you know, you do personality typing and it says which character you are. I have answered about 10 questions.

came out as president bartlett but i don't know if everyone comes out as president bartlett because i also did one of those ones about you know when harry potter was going around when i was working at like a workplace 20 years ago or 25 years ago and i feel like um everyone got put in um griffindore or whatever every yeah i feel like everyone got put in griffindore like you know this is this is who you are and this is where you belong but i feel like a personality test i'd probably come out as josh but looks I'd come out of Sam Seaboard. Like Billy, he can wear a white shirt well, can't he? Yeah.

Yeah. And I was making a speech for a friend recently, and we were talking about, and I quoted a bit from the West Wing about, there's a line about between Leo and Josh, where they talk about the difference. Some men want to be the man or the guy, and then some men want to be the guy, the guy relies on but they see themselves as like the support role and um you know the chief of

staff as opposed to the president and when i was making you know gags about that my friend and that guy about who's the who's the guy and who's the guy behind the guy you know yeah yeah yeah and i think everyone thinks they're the guy and the other guy's the guy's the guy behind the guy when sometimes yeah that's right i'm sure i'm the guy behind you i'm sure i'm just this guy who helps you out with this podcast well yeah you just do a lot of the tech stuff so that i can come on and do the funny gags yeah yeah it's an honor just to be doing your tech support get the medals made and do a lot of the admin and finance sort of stuff so yeah i'll leave that to brady i'll leave that to my guy just sort of glide into my golden microphone

would slide in behind it right are we on right hello the absolute best example of that because i think of you like this is i've just been thinking about this recently actually because i think if you are one of the more gracious people. I know you're very kind-hearted. You're like a good person, right? Oh, here we go. I can feel something coming here that's going to be a slap. But the fact that you still are the centre of your universe to such an extent reminds me of how human humans are that a minister and a man who does something for everyone else and who is so like thinks of others is still really all about himself shows me that humans are humans. And the best recent example of that to me was you were telling me you bumped into an old school

friend of ours like a he was a year above us at school but and he was always really good at maths he was a bit of a math genius and you bumped into him and he's now he's now become a successful math teacher and he's done a lot he's used his mathematical ability for a lot of other things like finance and that and being really successful with numbers and maths and that and you you bumped into him and learned all this about him and how to catch up with him and I said oh wow like you know, he must have been super impressed when you told him that I'd gone on to be the guy that made number fire that I make one of, you know, the world's most successful number and math YouTube channels like that. He must have been blown away by that. And you were like,

oh, no, I didn't tell him that. Didn't even cross my mind. Like you said, I didn't even tell him that. I'm like, and in my head, that would be the first thing you would do. Oh, you're a real numbers math guy. Hey, guess what? You know, you remember I was best mates with Brady. Oh, he makes number file. You know, do you know those videos? But you're like, No, I didn't talk about that with him. Why would that come up? And of course you didn't. Of course you didn't.

Like, I get that. Your grief is that I caught up with someone and the first thing I didn't talk about was you in an incident. At a funeral. At a funeral of all. I can't believe you didn't put it in the eulogy. No.

But like, yeah, fair enough. But it just shows. But it like, and it just shows how everyone is like, you know, the center of the. their own world but like yeah but you also went for like a beers with him didn't you and like oh yeah in which where i did talk about you and all the rest of it yeah yeah that was after but basically at the funeral you said look i can't talk much now but let's go for beers later so we can talk about brady let me go i've got so much to tell you about brady look here's a

photo for now but i can't go into it now he's so amazing i'm about to give his wife a medal just for being his wife is so incredible let's go for a lunch about Brady later. Let's go. Let's go. He's like, are you still friends with Brady? Oh, sorry, actually. Can we catch up specifically to talk about that? Because you wouldn't believe it.

I want to do it justice. I've got a big surprise. I don't want to ruin it now. I've got a PowerPoint presentation I've put together. I haven't got my notes. I haven't prepared. I can't talk about Brady off the cuff. It's not the same without pictures.

Oh, forget something. I'll forget when he won the Order of Australia or the Nobel Prize You said let's both go away and come up with our top ten favourite Brady videos We'll compare them over lunch You imagine This sort of stuff

If my mum had caught up right With someone And got onto you and talking about you I feel like everything would get mixed up And so in her mind it's like Brady's been to the moment moon. It's all kind of just...

It's absolutely inconceivable to me that your mum would catch up with someone from our past and stop talking about you at any point. Oh, well, no, so the point of that story was to say that I'm, like, selfish, and that's, like, absolutely correct. That's right. No, no, no, no. The point of the story was you're the least selfish person I know

and you're still selfish, which I find. Oh, right. Okay, fair enough. It's a testament to humankind. What other things do you like about me? Do you want to quickly hear my other idea for a podcast? Because we've got to get this done so we can still do the request room. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So here's another idea. If people aren't sick of this already, we've got more before we give them the bonus content. Yeah, we've got more bonus content. This one I like, I know I've done things like this before. I may have even done the exact thing before, but anyway. I've called this one. It's either called Since When, which I think's a OK name, or the last time.

Right. And this is a device to talk about different things, of course, like most podcasts are. And the device is you talk about, when is the last time a particular thing happened? Or how long has it been since something last happened? For example, here in England, people are very obsessed with soccer, football. Right. It's been 59 years since England won the Men's World Cup. of soccer football. Right, right. Yep, yep. It's been 53 years since humans set foot on the

moon, which is becoming a bit interesting now because there's talk about them doing it again. So the idea here is you come up with things of interest to you. Your, yours would be very different to mine, of course. You talk about how long it's been since it last happened. Why has it been that long since it last happened is an interesting discussion point? When is it likely to happen again? And you can just talk about the thing itself. So I cracked out, look, I'm going to admit, I cracked out chat GPT to help me with this. Right. And it was a really interesting lesson, by the way, in not trusting chat GPT because it made a lot of mistakes.

And as I dug deeper into some of these subjects, it found its own mistakes. And after telling me something hadn't happened, it would sometimes find out that it did and all that. So it was a good little lesson in how untrustworthy it is. But here are some interesting things. So I asked it, when was the last time the big four sporting championships you can win in America of professional sports? so football, baseball, hockey, NBA, basketball were held by like the same city, the same place. Has it happened before? Oh, right.

Yeah, right. Yeah. And I was told in 1935, the Detroit Lions won the football. The Detroit Tigers won the baseball and the Detroit Red Wings won the hockey, the Stanley Cup. But there was no NBA yet at that point. So that's three. That's three. It's never happened with all four, I'm told.

Apparently 1980 was a famous year because the Philadelphia Phillies won the World Series They reached the finals of the NBA They reached the finals of their Stanley Cup And they reached the Super Bowl, the Eagles But they lost those last three Oh really? Wow So it's actually a terrible year for them

It's a heartbreaking year Yeah more heartbreaking I guess in some ways But yeah So things like that Here are some other things I asked This just shows how my brain works maybe I'd be curious to hear what your questions are I asked, when was the last time the American president and the British Prime Minister

were the same age as each other? Oh, right, okay. This wouldn't be too long ago. I reckon Clinton and Blair would be in their mid-40s. Again, I'm only trusting chat here, so I'm very happy to stand corrected. But I was told that it hasn't happened. And the closest that came back to me was Barack Obama and David Cameron were five years apart. Right.

When was the last time that a sitting US president and a UK prime? Prime Minister had the same name, first name, and Jimmy Carter and James Callahan had overlap. So we had two James James Jims there. That was, what, 46 years ago? That happened. This is something I asked. When was the last time a total solar eclipse, which is, you know, a famous astronomical event? Just for the rest of us, this is when the moon's in front of the sun is that right yes completely covers the sun so hence total so if this famous event that happens from time to time when was the last time it was visible from stonehenge famous astronomical historical place so interesting it'd be an amazing place to watch a total solar eclipse

and in 1999 there was a total solar eclipse that went through devon and cornwall which is that neck of the woods but from stonehenge which is in wheelchair it was It wasn't total. It was only about 97 to 98%. So there wasn't a total solar eclipse if you were standing at Stonehenge. And also, I think the weather may have been bad that day. There you go. That's the last time you had that there. But then that got me thinking, when was one totally visible from Stonehenge, you know, the whole hog, you have to go back to 1715, 310 years ago. The next one that will be visible from Stonehenge, 2090. On the 23rd or 17. September. When was the last time is the theme of your podcast. Some of these are really interesting and some of them are not. But like it depends what you want to talk about. Like for example, if you were doing, I know solar eclipse is not massively interesting to you and probably neither is Stonehenge, but you wouldn't just talk about, oh, when was the last time it happened, when will it next happen? You would use that as a device. What is a total solar eclipse? How do they predict them? How do you watch them? You know, you'd, let's talk more about Stonehenge. Why is it always associated with astronomy and the sun and all this. So you're basically using it as a device to talk about that other thing. To jump into something, yeah, and do a deep dive on it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just let me finish the ones I researched. The last time a total solar eclipse was visible from the Great Pyramid of Giza, because that's another thing that's associated with the sun and astronomy and that sort of stuff. You have to go back to 1504 BC, 3.5,000 years ago. was the last time you could have been standing at Giza and seen a solar eclipse, a total solar eclipse. The next one's not till 2236. And when were they made? There are a couple thousand years before then, weren't they? They're about 5,000 BC. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. And the other thing

I asked, and this is where chat was having all sorts of problems, but here we go. When was the last time the winner of the 100 metre sprint and the marathon at the Olympics were both from the same country in the same year. Oh, right. So the long one and the sprint. 1904 Olympics, you had the 100 metres won by a man named Archie Hahn and the marathon was won by Thomas Hicks, both from the USA. Although the Hicks win was very controversial because apparently he was struggling and he used strychnine, which is a poison, but also apparently helps you. And brandy, he had striccline and brandy during the run to perk himself up and then he went on to win. Oh, gosh. We do not recommend the use of

well any drugs particularly poisons 41 years ago 1984 the women's 100 metres was won by Evelyn Ashford I believe and Joan Benoit Samuelson won the marathon from the USA not as long ago for that

there you go these are just things I was thinking about since when what would you like to know when was the last time it happened Tim what comes into your head I was trying to think about something something that ties back in like the last time like i was thinking about i know that there are quite a few people although it is an exclusive class who have won an oscar and a tony and a grammy and an emmy right but i was trying to think is there one story like a film that's won best picture that then

has also gone onto the stage and won the tony you know what i mean that i wonder if there's actually a film that's yeah because i know several films have become stage show and stage shows have become films. Was it Kate Blanchett who won an Oscar for playing Catherine Hepburn? And it's the only time someone's won an Oscar for playing someone who's won an Oscar? Oh, right. Okay. Yeah, that's very clever. Yeah. I thought you might have a music one.

Like, what's the last time someone's had, like, you know, the number one single in the USA and this and that? They could do things to do with the music charts or music awards and things like that. Might be up your alley. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting. For a long time I was thinking about when was the last time, that a new megastar has been created. And when I talk about a megastar,

you're really talking about someone who's selling more than 10 million albums. And for a long time, that was the 90s. So Coldplay, at the end of the 90s, went on to become a mega band. And for a lot of the first, you know, 20 years or so of the new millennium, there wasn't anyone.

And so it was like, oh, that era's over of, you know, Prince and Michael Jackson and all those kinds of Madonna, those sorts of figures. but Taylor Swift has kind of put paid to that she's come along and Ed Sheeran and become you know what I mean like mega mega these are sort of global stars but going back a little while

that we had a real dearth of them for a while Is Adele a megal a megal's the other one Yeah yeah that's right yeah Where you're in the tens of millions And there was a real thinking for a while Particularly after Napster For the sort of 20 years after that That there was not going to be

No one was going to sell 10 million albums anymore You know, it was never going to happen, you know. It was sort of back there with Garth Brooks and, you know, Michael Bolton and those sorts of guys. Would 10 million YouTube views make you a megastar? I don't know how the YouTube sort of tick over works, but I think there's quite a few. I tried to sneak that one through. I tried to go get higher than 10 million. What are you up to now?

Do you have a cumulative total of? Combined. I think it's about 1.6 or 1.7 billion. views Wow Yeah That's a lot Yeah

That is a lot And I'm not a megastar You've got to go pretty High to be a megastar No indeed And Well that's right So you think about bands

I know that I remember seeing John Bon Jovi You know Received an award From Spotify or YouTube One or the other That you know

Living on a Prayer Has had one billion streams or something like that So that's one person One song But man you're up there One point What did you say

1.6 billion? Billion views. Views, yeah. That's, I mean, does that blow you away that one point six billion times someone sat down and thought, oh, well, I'm going to watch, you know. Yeah, it's great, isn't it? I feel very fortunate.

Very fortunate. That's incredible. What percentage of that would be the YouTube version of the Unmade podcast, which I know not many people, it's the tiny listenership, really. It's most people listen to it on their podcast. It's, it doesn't. It doesn't, it's not, it's not responsible for a great deal of those views. Not a great deal?

No. Lower, lower end, lower end. It's more the point six than the one billion. Definitely, it definitely would fall more in the point six half of that. But they all count and they're all greatly valued. What do you think of my idea? Since when or the last time? I think it is good.

I think it's a natural point into conversation. So it does work and it could work. I think it could work as sort of like a short, you know, it's, I mean, we're thinking of podcast ideas, but I think this could be like a regular segment, you know, like a 15 minute every day kind of thing that happens on a radio show or something like that. But yeah, I do think it works. I think the best ones are when you say, when's the last time something happened? And it was a really long time ago, or it was really recent. That can also be quite fun. Well, that's right. When was the last time it was Wednesday? And you go, well, that was just last week. It's going to be

less often. When was the last time a woman was the Archbishop of Canterbury? Never. That has never happened. It's happened now. It has, well, no, indeed, indeed, yes. Well, she's not, she's not been enthroned yet, so she's not officially the Archbishop of Canterbury. So we've still got a never, yes, yes, but we have got one coming. Brady did send a commiserations text, which I appreciated that I was not elected to be the Archbishop of Canterbury, despite early buzz around, well, he and I my texts but yeah I think I think besides the fact you're a member of the wrong church I think your salary demands which is too great that's right I think I think I think I'm sure it would have been close but I don't they they they don't they don't release the sort

of second third and fourth you know nominations they just go with the winner which is fair enough I think I think it's too early for you I think you're too young Too young? Yeah, well, that's right. I'm still on my way up or across. I need to change denominations. I need to change everything, actually, pretty much except my faith. Shall we retire to the request room and have a little bit more chat?

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