The Unmade Podcast - 178: Possessed

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

Tim and Brady discuss shirtlessness, cursed possessions, the Artemis II moon mission, and the re-watching of favourite sporting moments.Watch this week’s Request Room - https://www.patreon.com/posts/157441545Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFMJoin the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/Unmade_Podcast/Catch the podcast on YouTube where we often include accompanying videos and pictures - https://www.youtube.com/@unmadepodcastUSEFUL LINKSArtemis II - https://www.nasa.gov/mission/artemis-ii/Tim’s Sporting MomentsTiger’s chip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_tkJEAGMDEA big hit to start the brutal 1989 AFL Grand Final - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p_ewDbA3w0Rumble in the Jungle (Round 8 knock out) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUrZp-rWOgUBrady’s Sporting MomentsIan Rush and 1989 FA Cup Final - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEw9bHrdqNwTroy Bond’s fourth goal in the 1997 AFL Grand Final - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojd4ZVnNcpYThe 1999 Cricket World Cup semi-final run-out - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvJT6cvIhwECatch the bonus Request Room episode - https://www.patreon.com/posts/157441545

Tim is recording in his daughter's bedroom rather than the office, anything could happen. Goodness me, I know. All right. Well, hopefully we get some decent sound here. And if you're not listening to this episode, it's because it didn't record properly. Apologies. Quick bit of parish notices from the last episode. Always nice to hear what people are saying. Oh, indeed, yes.

We have parish notices. Well, church notices, we call them, every Sunday, man. So, come on. Get on with it. All right. So Tim had this idea about people. telling the stories of their guitars. A very Tim idea. I hope you're, please tell me your idea this week doesn't involve guitars again. No, no, but I have thought about that idea again and thinking

about like how I'd make it if I was to go ahead and make it a made episode. It's interesting you should say that because we've had some suggestions for titles of the podcast. You and I couldn't quite, we couldn't quite land the title, could we? We were sort of fumbling and it was, it was on the tips of our tongue, but we couldn't get there. I didn't mind heartstrings that I'd did go with in the end, which... That's good. What do you think of these two? What do you think of these two?

Sober dudes suggested, while my guitar gently speaks. Nice. Okay. Yes. Well, yes. And Pondglow suggested with strings attached. Oh, that's nice. I think I prefer that one.

Yeah, good. Okay. I was sort of suggesting maybe that the podcast would be more generalised to equipment and just people's tools of the trade. Yeah. And we had an interesting message from an hour flying who said, speaking of the idea for the backstory of equipment, you could go deep with sporting equipment.

Some baseball players use the same glove for decades. Hockey player Sidney Crosby used the same shoulder pads that he used when he was a rookie 20 years ago. Yeah. But this is the one I liked, according to an owl flying, which I've since researched. Probably my favorite story is the hockey player Mike Green. When he was playing, he preferred a specific type of stick. However, much like Tim's Dieter New Yorkers, they were discontinued early in his career, but he loved it so much that he kept on trying to find as many in the wild as possible.

Fans have even given back sticks that he signed and gave away so that he could use them again in games. And I read this lovely story of one he signed for this little boy who had it hanging in his bedroom, and then when he found out that this guy needed his sticks back, he handed his stick back to him, like so he could play with it. Oh, that's great. I'm not sure Well, I have all my previous frames At least for the last 30 years

You keep them, dude Like I keep all my old iPhones in a drawer Oh, we've got, yeah, we've got a drawer of iPhones as well That is depressing to look down there Firstly, at how awesomely small and compact they were Which is like the early ones Totally wicked compared to the massive stupid monoliths We have in our pockets these days

But also, just the money, the waste. Gosh, oh man, we're old men, we're old men. By the way, it was an Eastern Stealth CNT, the stick. I just had to know. Right. Thank you. Yeah. That's not the name of a moon mission.

That's the name of a stick. Yeah, that's right. Fair enough. Also, in the last episode, we dredged up some dirty laundry to do with swimming carnivals of the past. And, you know, the controversy of me winning in year 11 and not getting a medal, which still is a bitter, bitter pill. but we did also find a picture of Tim and I young and shirtless in the pool after a race

and we posted that as bonus content for Patreon supporters to go and have a look at and the servers at Patreon have been melting under the strain of people going to look at them but I did see a few funny messages that I thought I'd share about it sorry this was patron only material but this is a great reason to become a Patreon supporter people one of them Niharika wrote

is it mean to say Tim looks the same but Brady has changed? And I thought, oh, who's that being mean to? And then she wrote, sorry Brady. So she made it pretty clear. I thought maybe she's thinking, oh, Brady's really matured and looks really handsome. And Tim just looks the same. But no, I'm the one that needed the apology. Oh, dear man.

Wow, that's harsh. Yes, no, indeed. Age stops for no one, except. Tim. But Nehrika did say the picture is definitely worth my patronage. And Peace Tank 22 wrote, came straight here to the Patreon app

after listening to the request room. I paid $15 for airplane Wi-Fi just to load this picture. This better change my life because my bank account definitely noticed. And then Peace Tank wrote, Economy seat, but first-class clown behavior. Classic.

I hope it was worth it, Peace Tank. It sounds like if we could collect together all the other sort of swimming carnival and sports day photos of us, then perhaps there's like a, you know, calendar for 2006 that could be released. A little bit of only fans. Yeah. I mean, basically, Peace Tank 22 has said that seeing a picture of you and I shirtless is worth $15. Wow. That's the going rate.

Okay, we should run an auction. And I'm pleased about it. It's $7.50 each. Wow. So Rick the Nick wrote, What is this image not doing in Australia's National Portrait Gallery? And Alan wrote, How could you even put a price on a photo from this momentous occasion?

So Alan would clearly disagree with us saying it's worth $15. I think in the spirit of, swimming carnivals and swimming. Surely that image is heading straight to a, to a beach towel man, surely in the merchandise. Do you reckon? I reckon that would be awesome. I don't know. I've only, I've got, it's quite kind of like dotty, like, because it's printed in a white, an old-fashioned way in the old school magazine, because, you know, our school magazine came out not long after the printing press. I wonder if we could get the original photo from the school, though. They would have it somewhere in the archives. That would be. You think so?

Yeah, you think they've kept all that in the archive. It may be framed somewhere, but I'm sure there'd be some way of extracting it safely and scanning it for a better image for people's enjoyment. I wonder if they've kept originals of all your old detention notices that we could go through and read all the things that were written on them. It would be awesome if there was just meticulous archives for every little piece of paper like that.

Really? Like even when, you know, when you get in trouble and the teacher's so, go and pick up ten papers, like rubbish on the way, and you walk outside, pick them up, they'd bring them in and archive them, lay them down. These are the first 10 papers Tim ever collected. Ideas for a podcast. That's our stock and trade. Who's going first today? Well, I think we both know each other's idea today. Is that right? We kind of do. Yeah, we gave each other a bit of warning because it might require a bit of thought.

So how does that help us decide who goes first? Well, we can sort of, I mean, do you, does it change your opinion at all? Is there one you think would go better? I have an opinion. I mean, I think my idea is better. No, no, that's not what I asked. I asked which one do you think would go better? In other words, if people listened to your idea, do you think they'll switch off? I mean, you always switch off when it's my idea. I expect that, but it's computer problems. You know that. The line's unstable. I think, I think we've done yours first the last couple of episodes. So why don't we do mine first? Let's do, let's do yours. yours. Mine's a bit of a list, okay, and I've asked you to prepare three things, and I've

got three things, so perhaps we can build up to that. Let's get yours away. Okay. All right. Tim's, you go, you go make a cup of tea, Tim. I'll just tell the people about it. I'm just going to sit back here. Let me tell you the origin story for my idea. I've had a printer for a little while in my office, an inkjet printer. And like most printers, but especially this one, it's caused me nothing but problems. It always seems to be not connecting to the Wi-Fi and the computer can't find it and it's not compatible. And printing is something I dread because of it. I hate this printer.

And it also always seems to be running out of ink and then I always have problems changing the ink. And then things came to a head about a year ago when I was having problems changing some component and I had to like pull it out of the shelf it was on. And I kind of tipped it on a weird angle and suddenly all this black ink came out and it went all over me and it went all over my carpet, black printer ink and carpet. If there's one thing you cannot clean out of a carpet, I have learned, it is black printer ink. And so there's this black stain on my carpet.

And every time I walked into my office, I had to look at it. And it just, oh, it broke my soul because I like having a nice, clean, tidy office. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was awful. It was awful. I hate this printer. So I finally got a new one. I moved into a new office.

I got a new printer, which has been an absolute dream. Right. It's a laser printer. It's changed my life. I actually look forward to printing things. now. It's so lovely. But the old one, old grumpy, nasty printer that I hate has been sitting in my old office, which has been cleared out now to make room for Kylie to beautify the room. So I got to take it to the tip yesterday. And that was like, yes, I get to take it to the tip.

Put it in this box. And as I was carrying it down the stairs in this box, the box was too big for it. And the box was a bit unbalanced. And I dropped it and it smashed on the ground and like created this big clatter. Luckily, luckily nothing happened. It was just a big drop. But it was almost like the printer saying, I'm not going without a fight. You know, getting, like, I could just, I could, I should have taken that as a warning that there was animosity between me and the printer. Like, because Kylie called up, says, are you okay? She thought I'd fallen down the stairs. It was such a big clatter. And I'm like, no, no, I'm all right. It's just this bloody printer. I took it to the tip. I'd put it in this plastic bag and I was about to throw it into the small electrical bin thing.

and the woman working there said, no, no, you have to put it here on this table because I have to remove all the cables. And I thought, I said to her, actually, the cable just unplugged. Do you want me to do it for you? Because she was snipping cables off electrical devices. I said, no, you can just pull this one out.

And so I thought, you know, I'm being a gentleman here. Let me do it for you. So I reached in to take the printer out. And I unplugged the cable. And in doing that, I looked down and just reaching into the bag to unplug the cable, my whole arm up to like almost my elbow got covered in ink, black ink

all over my wedding ring, all over my hand. There's still a little bit of my hand now. You might just be able to say it. Like I got complete, this was seconds before throwing it into the bin. It was like this final, final spiteful moment between me and the printer saying, you're never going to forget me.

Are you sure this is a printer and not like a squid? It was. It was. It was like a squid attack. So I finally threw it into the bin. It'll probably find its way back to me, the thing. It reminded me actually of a story that I heard. There's a guy I used to play cricket with.

And I didn't see this incident, but I heard the story. It was famous at my cricket club. There was this guy at the cricket club who had this pet dog that he treated really badly. He like, you know, I don't think he, like, abused it. But he was just, he wasn't loving to it, you know. He was just a bit mean to it, you know. It wasn't a loving relationship with him and his dog. And the dog got sick and he was carrying it into the vet

And the dog was about to die And the last thing the dog did before it died Was bit him on the face It just looked up, it bit him on the face And then died And everyone thought that was like, oh, that's justice for you That was the dog's parting That's the one thing I want to do before I leave

I feel that's what the printer was doing to me It was like before it died It wanted to bite me one last time Anyway, that's been my story A lot of my stories involved with the tip Don't they? I'm realizing but I spent a lot of time at the tip. So anyway, this has given me my idea for a podcast, Tim,

and the best thing about this podcast is the name. My podcast idea is called Possessed. And Possessed is all about objects that you have owned or possessed that have just caused you nothing but trouble, that have been cursed, that you've hated, and like have gone, and for some reason they've stuck with you through some portion of your life, but you have this animosity with, this bad relationship.

Tim, have you possessed an item that was possessed? Or have you got one? Have you got a tale like this? Good name, good name, by the way. Great name. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you.

I told my wife the idea for the podcast this morning and even she begrudgingly nodded and said, good name. Do you get the feeling that baby, you're her possession? Yes, yes, I'm sure. I am absolutely. Absolutely no doubt. She has got one actually that she's recently gotten rid of, but I'll come to that in a minute. Let you go first. Have you got a candidate? Yeah, the first one that came to mind for me is something that's sitting in front of me and that is my computer obspot camera. It's, oh. And the trouble with it is I felt so excited about it. I thought, no, I'm going to splash out and buy a really quality camera. You were very proud of it when it first arrived. I was so proud of it and how it's like gruesome.

and square and small and it's so clear and 4K and all the rest of it. And all it did was totally overrun the computer. The computer's never been able to catch up with it since. And so it's just like shut down the computer and our recordings have had to start again. Oh, I've ended up using another laptop. It's just been so annoying. We have had a lot of problems with your computer lately. And I didn't realize you'd pinned it down to the camera being too much of a burden on the system, but it doesn't surprise me. There has been, I mean, I've had to use, I've had to use a colleague's laptop for some of our last recordings because this, this laptop is not been up to handling it. But even then there's, I know there's still been some Wi-Fi issues and so forth

like that, but that's a separate matter. In particular, it's because I think I had so much hope for this camera. I put so much stock on it thinking this is going to record and film some really cool stuff that I edit up. You get those things in life, don't you? You think this is going to improve my life so much when it arrives and then usually it doesn't usually just before you buy it like the day before you buy it you think once i've got this everything's going to be awesome like tomorrow there will be no problems even geopolitically there will be no problems there'll be no traffic problems there'll be no poverty problems there'll be nothing because i'll finally have a decent camera but no it's just been totally frustrating totally over totally i'm trying to think of an example but it's like buying a

a VW Beetle and then putting like a truck's engine into it, which is just meant that the thing's just, you know, fallen over on top of itself. I hate that camera too, man. And that's before I even realized that it was responsible for all these computer problems we've been having. Why do you hate it? I hate it because no doubt your picture quality is better, okay? Your picture quality is better.

And I appreciate that. But like most cameras these days, it has this mode where it can track you and move around. Yeah. And I hate that mode, right? I hate that mode when I'm on a Zoom calls and things like that. And I know you can deactivate it. And I know you've deactivated it at my request. But for some reason, it keeps switching itself back on.

But also your camera has this thing where you control it with like gestures, like you move your hand of that. And we'll be recording an episode. And then mid-episode, you'll scratch your nose or something. And the computer will trigger into action and start slewing all over the place and doing all these weird things. And then you try and control it again. and you're doing all these weird hand gestures to try and get it back. Yeah, yeah, it is.

It's like sign language. Yeah, and saying words at it. And it's like, and you're like some old man, like wrestling smoke, trying to, trying to get the camera back under control. It was pointing all over the place. And so before I realized it was killing the podcast with its power, it was already killing the podcast with, like, my frustration with it, slewing around the place and bamboozling you.

Do you know, fine, all these hand gestures, it's like I'm having to deal with. my camera, like I'm dealing with, like, I'm, we're on the battlefield and I've got like a sniper up in a tower and I'm asking like, how many tanks are coming? And he's going like, two battalion, two tanks. You know what I mean? 400 men. And he's making all these gestures. You know what mean? And I'm like relaying that to the people around me. And it's like all those hand gestures are the sorts of things that my camera demands from me. Oh, it's, it's been an absolute debacle. Good example, man. That camera is possessed. But too annoyingly.

expensive to get rid of as well. It's like I can go, I just want to throw it against the wall, but I can't because it's too expensive. How much was it? How much was it? It was like $500. Oh, yeah. Wow. Yeah. You've got to stick with that no matter what it does. So damn it, I'm going to be frustrated for years to come until I've heard every cent out of that bloody. I want my full $500 worth of frustration. That's right. That's exactly right. Oh, that's a good example. That's a good example. Possessed. People, have you got an item in your life that has just caused you nothing but trouble that you have possessed? But it has become possessed. I have another one, but can I hear Kylie's first? What was the one that Kylie? Hers was something that I think a lot of people would relate to, and that is a car. And she has had her share of lemony cars, partly because she's like, she's a real car enthusiast.

So she sometimes will buy like, you know, some secondhand vintage car or some sports car. So she's always buying problematic cars because she likes these old speedy 80s things and stuff like that. But she also recently had a Land Rover and Land Rover's have bit of a reputation for causing problems. And hers was true to form and things kept breaking and going wrong. And then it started having all these recalls, and she kept having to take it back to Land Rover to have, like, the battery replaced and stuff like that. Yeah.

And then they weren't giving her a car, like a replacement car, while they fixed her car that they'd mucked up and recalled, and she had to kick up a big fuss to get a replacement car. It was causing her a lot of grief. She enjoyed the car when it was working, but it just wasn't working enough. Isn't this Land Rover, isn't this like the classic English reliable, you know, during the war kind of car? Oh, well, yeah, the old Land Rover's like that, you know,

the old defenders have got a reputation of being like tanks. You know, the royal family drives out to the property. It is like, though. Yeah. Yeah, but it's more than modern ones. Like she had a range rover, you know, this is more of a luxury car. She wasn't going and, you know, working on the farm in this. The old defender or something.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, she got rid of a few weeks ago. And the day she sold it, the day she traded it for another car, a smaller car. And the day she traded it, she went to the postbox. And there was another letter from Land Rover recalling it for more. work because of problems with it. And she just smiled and thought, ha, I dodged that bullet, you know. She was, it was almost like confirmation you made the right

decision. You were right to get rid of this car. Here's another recall the day you got rid of it. So, so anyway, she's got rid of that. But that car was, that car was a thorn in her side. So they're not, they're not even, it's not even that she's got, oh, this is frustrating and going in and saying, oh, there's a rattle here. They're actually contacting her and going, yeah, there's stuff going on with your car. And you're like, what? No, no, that's fine. It's like, no, there's stuff. Bring it in. Bring it in. The battery could blow up.

Land Rover crumple. Gosh. I mean, I have a Land Rover too, and I've been having some problems as well with mine. In fact, I had some problems with mine when you were here. That's right. Yeah,

I remember having a walk around town to go up and get your car because it was in that. Place getting fixed. Gosh. There were a few. Yeah. So anyway, this episode is not brought to you by Land Rover.

That definitely is not brought to you by Land Rover. No. No. Or the Ozbot camera. No. No. It was not. I think my print.

I think, should I say the brand of my printer? Because I'm not sure if I get it. I'm pretty sure it was a canon. Yeah. Anyway, I'm loving my brother printer right now, my laser printer. Oh, okay. Nice. Yes, a laser printer.

I remember when our school got its one laser printer and it was so exciting in the IT room to be able to print something on a laser printer. Even though you had to wait like five minutes for a piece of paper to come out, it was like really special paper. Oh, gosh. Yeah. All right. You've got another one, you said. I do have another one that I have to say, that I have to say, because when I asked another member of my family, they said it,

and I was like, totally. Like one of my daughters mentioned, our microwave, right? We, and this is another problem. Whenever I go to buy something, I look up, in Australia, we have a website called Choice. Choice magazine it was. It's a website now. And it checks and tests everything.

And so I always rely on it, get the subscription and get the best one I can. So that's why it's a little bit annoying. to get this particular microwave. It's not, it's working. It's definitely microwaving things. Doing a good job seems to be perfectly safe, all the rest of it. Except it just sings at us. Like it,

it's got beeps upon beeps upon beeps. And it's finished cooking something. It beeps. And then it sings. And then it sings something else. And then it reminds us again and sings. It's like it's moving through movements. whole movements of an orchestra.

It's symphony. Man, you've reminded me of another one of mine. Well done. My fridge is a perfectly serviceable fridge. But if you dare to leave the door open for more than eight seconds, it just starts beeping at you. And it won't stop. And you can't override it or extend the time to like, you know, give me a minute.

I like to leave the fridge open while I'm packing the groceries or unpacking some stuff. No, no. Beep. Beep. It's like a truck backing up on you. Yeah. It's like, okay, I don't mind the warning, but let me over, you know. I mean, you can press a button on the physically on the fridge when it starts beeping.

Every single time. To say stop beeping. But you can't open the fridge and then press the button as if to say, don't beep at me. You have to wait for the beeping to start before you can override. Oh, yeah, that's annoying. I mean, that's just one annoyance on an otherwise. good product. It's not like my printer that I had this like battle with for years. No, it sounds like it was personal with the printer, that's for sure. It was something about it.

It was personal. It was. It was lashing out at you, man. Who knows what I was doing while you're asleep? Just going around the house and inking things. Who knows what I made a print to make it so angry in the first place? I know. I know. It's just. Oh, dear. Possessed. Yeah, good idea. possessed. Thank you. Thank you. The good thing about this idea is that as you can see, like we love telling about it too. Like we love getting angry at it. It's fine. It's really cathartic to be able to come and tell a new, it's just a new way of whinging about things and everyone loves winching. But the thing though about these things is we're,

half the time we're winging about something that's doing something too much. Like my microwave is too helpful and your fridge is too helpful. It's got features I don't need. give me something more simple, something that works that doesn't continually sing the William tell overture every time I have to look at that. Everything's just fighting for our attention. Like, stop it. Yes, that's right. I have only so much attention.

I can take only so much noise. Take a moment, man. So we're not doing Spoon of the Week this week. We are doing our other beloved segment, a little segment I like to call. Baboon of the week. No, it's not baboon. No, no. It's, you know what it is.

It's this one. Moon of the Moon. We've had so many messages about this Artemis II mission to the Moon. So many messages. Wanting opinions on it. I guess a lot of it is to do with the fact people know that I'm an Apollo enthusiast. So they probably would like to hear some of my opinions. They know you don't like the Moon.

that's not fair. They know you have minimal interest in the moon. It's not like you dislike the moon, like my printer. The moon, the moon and I are fine. Yeah, yeah. You're on good terms. So I thought, I'm not going to do the moon as the moon of the week. That's too big.

It's too much. Yeah. Like, you could never do that as moon of the week. But I thought we'd have a little Artemis mission segment. Yes, good. I've got some questions. Well, this is, you said, before we started recording, Tim said, I've got some questions.

And you know what? I'm going to subvert expectations here, Tim, because just before we started recording, I went on to Patreon and I asked our ever helpful and loyal stakeholders if they have any questions that they would like to ask about Artemis II and have them answered by Tim and Tim alone.

So today, Tim will attempt to answer your questions about the Artemis 2 mission. Now, at the time of recording Artemis 2 is still in space. It's actually, I think it's just started coming back. It's just reached its furthest point from the Earth around now, and it's coming back. By the time you hear this, the mission is hopefully all finished successfully, and the astronauts are in a nice warm bed.

Well, hang on. What do you mean at its furthest way? Isn't it going to the moon? Well, you're the one answering the questions today. But I'm clearly going to have to step in occasionally, I can tell. Okay, okay. I've not done a lot of research, and people should be warned, I'm not an Artemis expert,

and I'm not speaking on behalf of NASA, so this is not official information. You should check local sources. Never a truer word has been spoken. You're waiting for some serious fake news and needing of factor checking coming up here. We've had lots and lots of questions really quickly as well.

Like I must have posted this half an hour ago and we've got 55 questions. Oh wow. Okay. Well, let me do my best to answer them, okay? My very best. I do know a little bit. I know what's on the news, I think.

Okay. Well, I haven't paid much attention. So let me do my best. Well, before we start with the questions then, Tim, for people who aren't familiar with Artemis too, can you just give us like a list of really brief executive summary for someone who just has been, you know, living in a cave and doesn't even know what Artemis 2 is.

What's going on here? Oh, well, Artemis 2 is a sequel to the movie Artemis that came up five years ago. No, I tell a lie. Artemis 2 is a space mission with, I think, about five people. It is going to the moon, the first ship to go kind of intentionally to or near the moon. I imagine it's going around the moon and back out the other side and coming home again or going into the moon's orbit or something like that,

slingshotting its way back, it is not landing on the moon. It's the first time we've done that, though, since about 1977 or something like that. Going to the moon was a very sort of 60s and 70s kind of thing to do. Went out of fashion in the 80s, 90s, but we're back into it now. So that's, I imagine we're doing that because we can look a lot closer at the moon surface while we're doing that. and we can learn things about the moon and NASA knows the moon

this will be popular and we'll get it more funding for the future maybe that's why they're doing it as well I don't know okay that's there was a bit of incorrect information there in my opinion but that was quite a reasonable swing so well done man

it was brave to even attempt it and you did all right you did all right I think 1972 was the last time we were at the moon Oh, okay. Rather than 77. But, you know, yeah. I was thinking of the Pink Floyd album, sorry. Well, funny you should say that.

We have some questions about that, so you will get to that. Oh, good, good. I know a lot more about that album than I know about this mission. So Evan asked, Tim, why are the astronauts said to be further from Earth than humans have ever been before if we've been to the moon before? Oh, good question, Evan. That's because we, I imagine, are going around the dark side of the moon. but I do believe that whoever stayed in the shuttle last time they orbited the moon

would have also done this, except that we won't be going as close to the moon as they did because we're not landing on the moon, so we'll be further from the moon when we go around the other side. Not bad. Not that bad. If there's any time you want me to step in mad and, like, you know, fill in any details, let me know. But that's... Yeah, noted.

Yeah. Okay. not entirely not again not entirely correct but decent effort well I imagine they're going around the back of the moon like a bit of of a bit of a bit of Tokyo drift like they're sort of you know so they're further away let me tell you what happened before with Apollo right every time Apollo went to the moon they went to the moon and then they started orbiting the moon itself they they went into lunar orbit and while they were in lunar orbit circling the moon would go down, land on the moon, do some footprints, come back up.

Artemis 2 is not going into lunar orbit. It's just going all the way there, slingshotting around the moon and then coming back. At no time is it ever going into orbit around the moon. No, yeah. Doing that means you actually go further around the backside than you would if you were going into orbit, which is kind of what you said. It's exactly what I said. This has been done once before, but it wasn't meant to be done.

When Apollo 13 was on the way to the moon. Because they didn't go into lunar orbit, did they? Yeah, they had their explosion. They couldn't go into lunar orbit. They also couldn't fire their rockets in the way they would like to have. They had to change the plan. And they then changed the plan to do essentially what Artemis is doing, just one big slingshot right around the back.

And do you know who the previous record holder was for the people that went furthest away? from the earth? Apollo 13. Oh, right, okay. So the Apollo 13 were the record holders for being furthest away because they used this technique. Artemis 2 are doing this a similar thing. They just happened to be going a bit further.

So, yeah, Tom Hanks and Gary Seneas, they were all the previous record holders. The other place I remember this happening, in fact, this may be the place I learned about it from, was Explorers on the Moon, the Tintin episode, the Tintin comic where something similar happens. I can't quite remember the nature of the story,

but the same science. I'm less familiar with that moment in space exploration history, man. Well, I know. I've read books. I know you haven't read books about this. Let's get something less technical, more, your cup of tea. Michael asks, if you were on a mission to the moon, what would your preferred wake-up song be?

Obviously there's a great tradition of NASA playing songs When the astronauts wake up in space They used to radio in a song So what would you like to wake up to man If you'd just been sleeping in space I remember in the film it was What's that something in the sky Going up to the something in the sky?

Spirit in the sky Spirit in the sky Yeah And what would my wake up song be Probably higher and higher Your love is lifting me higher And that'd be cool because you like higher and higher.

Yeah. Yeah, good. I like it. Why is the mission called Artemis, Tim? This has been asked by Nicarika, I think. I don't know. And what do you think of the name? I think it sounds like a Nassari name.

It's probably named after a Greek or Roman figure of some kind, or it's very Nassari kind of name, but I don't know. And I don't think a lot of it. I think it's a generic name. I had to look this up. I didn't know. Or I had forgotten. I like the name.

I think it's quite cool. And it is an ancient Greek mythology god, as you correctly guessed, goddess of the hunt. So I like that they're following the tradition of Apollo. I think it's a pretty cool name. You're right. It's very Nassarie. What else would you, what would you have called the mission? Not just this, because Artemis isn't just this one mission.

It's like the family of missions, like Apollo. though, what would you have gone with? I think they should follow something similar to the weather people who name cyclones. So I would have gone with a first name like Bruce or Noel or Jeff or Peter or Sally, Margaret, Maureen, something like that. Maureen, I like Maureen, yeah, for Maureen missions. Moraine 5 is now descending down. Bruce I like as well.

They could alternate Bruce and Maureen, like the odd number one's could be moreines and the evens could be brusses, you know. Yes, yes. Okay, like it. Some people are really taken the piss here, asking you very technical questions. Well, I noticed you're not passing them on. I mean, come on, man. Lynn A asks, why is one side of the moon light and one dark?

Well, because the sun, it only one side's facing the sun at any particular time. It only looks from our angle, isn't that right? Light because the sun's facing it. And the moon doesn't actually spin, does it? So the other side's always facing away from the earth. Is that right? Well, the moon does, but you started well there, and then you kind of like just started throwing in too much partial knowledge.

But you're right. The moon does spin. It has days. If you had a house on the moon, wherever it was on the moon, you would have days and nights, unless you're right at the polls, but that's getting technical. If you had a normal house on the moon, you would have days and nights and the sun would rise and set.

But is it the configuration? of the sun and the earth and the moon that it means there's always one side facing away from us or from the sun is that how it works the moon is spinning but it's spinning at the same rate that's going around the earth yeah that's right yes that's right so for that reason we only see one face yeah yeah yeah here we go here we go we're we've got a few questions now that are going to be in your zone man in your zone here's one from colin is going to the moon or further down the road colonising new planets, God's plan for our species, or is it hubris like the Tower of Babel? That's a good question. It's a really interesting question. Because on the one hand, I don't think it's hubris. I do question a little bit the spending of resources

that goes into space exploration. I don't feel passionately about it, but I, um, I, I'm interested in it. A lot of money goes into it. I think it's something like 0.5% of the US budget. Right, okay. Yeah. So, but I mean... I don't think it's much. I don't think it's too much.

No, no, no. Again, I don't, I've not thought deeply about that, but I just, I mean, you know, intrigued by it. But the, I am concerned about things like, I hear about, um, like space mining and so forth. And I think that's intriguing that we start to look at the rest of, you. of the solar system as a commodity of some kind. And I think that says a lot about us.

Something to exploit. Something to exploit and profit from. So I think that's intriguing and interesting as well. On the other hand, it could be a way to preserve and sustain the environment of Earth that the Lord created and loves. So all of these things are in one perspective, that about of caution. On the other hand, I know that that's a very, you know how we're always in danger of looking at the world with us at the centre? And us as earthlings maybe are at the danger of doing that too, of actually looking at the universe and all that that exists from our perspective rather than from the vast, the perspective of the vastness that there is.

And so maybe exploring and going and visiting other planets and perhaps finding other life forms. I mean, who knows? Who knows is an awesome thing to do, a way of. You know, the universe connecting with itself and growing relationship from God's perspective. It's all speculation. Omya asks, Tim, if you were in charge of the Artemis program, what changes would you make? Well, there's one very specific one. And this is something that I saw on social media today, a portion of film where floating amongst all their personal possessions on Artemis was a jar of Natala.

And I can tell you, if I was in charge, there would be no Natala on board. I'm very anti-Natella. It would have been banned, not just from the spaceship, but from the entire NASA precinct. Big coal, man. But we asked you. Leon G. asks,

what's your favorite song from Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon album? What a good question. My favorite song... Tim's eyes lit up. Now you're talking. You may as well go make a cup of tea, man. My favorite

song is time. I think it's really, really wonderful. Yes, I could go into why, but I think it's the most truthful song

about English life in existence, perhaps. It's a wonderful song, Time. Can you give us a little, how does it go? Well,

it starts off with, you know, like clocks and bells and all that sort of stuff, and then it goes, boom, boom. And then it goes,

now, what's the thing? the moments that make up a dull day. I can't remember the rest of the lyric. But it talks about time moves really quickly. What are you doing with your life? What's going on? How we're worried.

And one day closer to death. So it's one that gets you really thinking about the purpose of life. Another theology one here from Callum. Christians are waiting for Christ to come again. What do you think will happen to any astronauts on the moon if he comes again while they are up there. It will be exactly the same. Yeah, they'll get the same treatment?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're not talking about Jesus coming from Mars to Earth, like, and bypassing the moon or anything like that. We're talking about different realms of existence and supernatural existence, yeah. Okay. Tim, I don't know what your beliefs are around this, but I remember something that was a very, like, really captured the imagination

of young Christians that I remember is the idea of the rapture where Christians are like just like taken away instantly and you know there were all these images of you know people's clothes around the dinner table just being left there because they've been raptured away to go you know to live happily ever after is that what you believe happens do you believe that there's like this this there's going to be this moment where all the Christians are like pre taken away and they just like disappear and and the rest of us are left thinking Whoa. I guess we got that wrong.

No, I don't. No, not at all. You don't. Okay, okay. All right. The idea of a rapture, which has gone on to sell all sorts of books and fiction books entirely, such as the Left Behind and lots of 70s movies and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah.

A product of a particular strain of American evangelicalism that had a disproportionate influence on the broader church and evangelicalism. But no, the word rapture is not in the Bible. It's not part of the Christian understanding at all. No. Okay. Because if people really believe that, would they stop letting Christians fly planes? Yeah, well, that's the sort of silly stuff that would go through our mind when we were young.

But no, the Christian message in one sentence is not that all the Christians will be taken away, like a lifeboat away from an earth that's going to burn up. The Christian message is that God made the world, came to redeem the world, and will return. again because his plan is to reconcile and renew it. And so the job of Christians is to participate in that renewing and fixing and healing of the world. That's all. So you also don't believe in like a, like a moment where like, you know, some amazing thing happens in the clouds and we all look up and think, oh, he's back. This is amazing. Like a, like this like a, you know, like with, because that is in the Bible. There's not like loads of angels and stuff and all, you know, you know, no, there is a big sky show. Well, not quite. Well, yes. Okay. Anything you read in the Bible about all

that is clearly, you know, metaphorical. It's describing something in the future. But it does talk about Christ coming again and heaven and earth coming together. But it talks about there being a new heavens and a new earth. So not the earth burning up and we're all going to live on a cloud somewhere. It talks about them being renewed and poverty removed. And, you know, it talks about wiping every tear away from their eyes and healing of the nations and all of the nations, you know, bringing the best of way.

they have to offer for one another and towards God and all that kind of stuff. I mean, there's so many great questions here. We have to move on, though. And by the way, there's lots of great questions for the request room today as well. So we better move on. Thank you for your questions, everyone. That was a... If people do have more questions that I haven't got to about Artemis, do look online and

in other places, I believe it is being talked about in other places. Don't rely on me as your sole source of information about it because I won't be updating you anymore from here on. No, no But do follow Tim on social media Because he does occasionally like to drop Little interesting nuggets of information About astronomy and space

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but I haven't got the full picture, the full context. maybe talk me through it and I'll see what comes into my head. Well, taking your parlance, the origin story of this idea, comes from me, well, looking on YouTube. And every now and then I'll be looking at something and I'll suddenly remember a great moment or something that I want to watch again and I'll go and look it up and watch it again. I don't know if you have little clips like this on YouTube

where suddenly you're like, I've seen it 100 times, but I just want to watch it again. You told me this was specifically sport though, right? Oh, indeed. No, indeed. That's right. So not many of those for me are sport, but there are a couple of sporting moments that I go back and I go,

you know what? That's incredible. I just want to watch that again. I've not watched that for about a year. So I was thinking of sporting ones in particular. And probably because I have less of them that they stand out to me, I thought, well, actually, this might be a really interesting idea. So in a sense, this is sporting moments that are so amazing in your mind that you want to,

revisit them. You want to watch them again. You go back and waiting for a highlights reel to come up on TV or something just isn't enough. You need to go back and go, by golly, that was incredible. I'll tell you the one that I was looking at at the time, which forms one of my three. I've then asked Brady to come up with three and I've got three. And I'll kick it off with this one, which is the one that I do look up every now and then. Good thing about YouTube, of course, is it comes up so quickly anyway. As soon as you go looking for it, it goes, oh, I know what you're looking for. You want to watch that thing again. Yeah. This one, was, and I know he's fallen on hard times and difficult times at the moment, been a bit of a goose,

but Tiger Woods. I'm, oh, now I'm going from memory, pretty sure it's 1996 at Augusta. I think it's the 13th. Jeez, I should have written that down, shouldn't I? The 13th or the 16th hole. Every detail about this I've got wrong, but somehow YouTube still knows what I'm looking for when I go looking for it. He hit an amazing, he sunk an amazing put, which he really wasn't a put. It was sort of a chip off the green And kind of off the bit outside the green as well On the further orbit where it's rested up against the grass And the incredible thing about the shot

Which clearly he sinks because otherwise I wouldn't be talking about it Is that he is it the angle Was so steep on the green It's almost like the green was on the side of a hill That his ability to chip the ball way, way in a counterintuitive direction, at least not 45 degrees, but let's say 30 degrees or something like that,

away from the hole, and to have it land perfectly and roll slightly down, pours right at the lip of the hole and fall in. It's just amazing. But the thing I really love about this the most is not just the amazing shot, but I love what the commentator says. And you know how commentators,

if they capture the moment properly, can just elevate a moment to another level again. and the guy just goes, in your life, have you seen anything like that? In your life, have you seen anything like that? Yeah. And I love that. I love that shot. It was good.

And I love that call. Checking online, it might be 2005 at the Masters. And it looks like it was the 16th hole. 16th it was. Okay. Oh, and that's more reason. I guess at 1996, I keep forgetting how old Tiger is. I guess he would have been very early in his career back then.

So, yeah, okay. It is a great moment. And the other thing that's very, famous, I mean, it's a famous shot, an important shot in his charge at the Masters. But the other thing that made it very legendary, I remember, is, as you said, the ball teeters on the lip of the hole for an unnaturally long time. Yeah. And you're thinking, oh, it's not going to go in.

It's just sitting there. And then it just goes, plop, falls in, and then the crowd erupts. But the way that it teetered on the edge, by, just by coincidence, really showed the Nike swoosh on his golf ball in a really obvious way. camera is super zoomed in. So the bowl on the hole by this point, almost filling the whole screen. And you get this really obvious Nike swoosh just sitting there and then the bowl falls in. And like everyone always says, in a bazillion years, Nike could not have made or afforded a better advertisement. Like it just because that's such a replayed shot, like, it was just like worth its weight in like unicorn blood to Nike to have the ball sort of perching that way.

and show their branding as well. So especially at, you know, Augusta, where it's so hard to get branding on screen and stuff. So it was a, it was certainly, and even if you don't search on YouTube, that is certainly the golf shot you will be shown anywhere, time and time again. So, yeah.

So I also have chosen three moments, Tim. Well, why don't you go next? Do you give us one? I will. I will. And my moments are not, I don't search them out as much, perhaps because at the time I watched them so many times

that I've almost reached saturation point. So occasionally I will see these moments again, but I don't search them out super regularly, but they are the three. They're the three I've chosen as like just burned into my brain forever and ever. And the first one I'm going to choose is the 1989 FAA Cup final. And to set the scene for you, to give it the context, in 1989, it was not easy to watch English soccer on television.

certainly entire games was impossible except for once a year they would show the FA Cup final late at night that would be shown live that was the one soccer game in the world along with the World Cup of course that was the one English soccer game in the world that was important enough to show on TV

and around 1989 I'd just gotten into soccer just recently at school I was playing it it had become my sport I'd moved away from Australian rules football which is probably a bit too rough and violent for me and experimented with soccer and found a real love for it. And one of my mates at school,

who was probably like my soccer mentor, his favourite team was Liverpool. So I decided, okay, well, I'll make that my team, I guess, as well. So tentatively, that was my team. But I hadn't bonded with Liverpool yet. And the 1989 FA Cup final was Liverpool against Everton. It's called a Merseyside Derby because both teams are from the city of Liverpool.

So it's always a big spicy game. And it was a really exciting game. Liverpool led 1-0 from very early on. Everton equalised right at the death to make it one-all. It went to extra time. Liverpool went two-one up. Everton equalised again to make it two-oh. And Liverpool then scored a third goal to win three-two.

The goal was scored, well, the last two goals were Liverpool, was scored by Ian Rush, who I didn't really understand at the time, but he was like a favourite son of Liverpool who had gone away and played for a team in Italy, and he had just come back. And this was kind of like his return moment. I'm back. And look what I've done. I've won the FA Cup for you.

And his second goal, which was probably not the better goal, but is the one that sticks in my memory, was just a little deft glancing header from across by John Barnes into the goal. And again, I remember the commentary too. He goes, the deftest of headers. And I'd never heard the word deft before, but British commentators have such a good vocabulary.

Beautiful ball by Barnes, deftest of headers by Rush. And I videotaped, I VHS videotaped the game. So I watched it back time and time. again, I had it in my, in my rack of VHS videos for years and years with my handwriting on it and stickers and all my stuff, and I would watch it over and over again. The game was so laden with emotion that I didn't fully understand as well, because that was also shortly after the Hillsborough disaster where a whole bunch of Liverpool fans had died in a, in a crowd disaster at a stadium. And

that was actually in the semi-final of the FA Cup, that that had happened, a game that had to then be replayed. So it was really charged with emotion. So the game was even bigger than my young brain fully appreciated. And that goal, you know, lives with me forever. And a picture of Ian Rush scoring a goal in that game autographed by Ian Rush is on my wall in the room next to me. Like it's just a sporting moment that means a lot to me. And it was my bonding moment with Liverpool, which has been my team ever since. And, you know, then I was like, okay, Yeah, Liverpool's my team. The first full game of soccer I ever watched on TV,

and Liverpool won it, and it was a dramatic, amazing game. So Ian Rush, both Ian Rush's goals in that game, but I'll go with the second one because it was the winner. Nice. Okay. Do you still go back and watch it now, or do you still have that VHS, knowing you, your VHS is in, like, locker room somewhere? I don't know where that VHS.

I own the game on a DVD as well, which is also redundant now. I watched it on YouTube the other day. I'll link to it in the notes. It was a cool game. I don't go back and watch it much, but I remember it well. And I see the photo of Ian Rush scoring a goal in that game every day in my office when I walk into my office. So it's kind of, that keeps it, that keeps that game burned in. It's interesting you mentioned one that's so personal for you.

Mine, I don't tend to have the same sort of personal connection. I was thinking about a couple of football moments. This is Australian rules football that really. that sit in my mind as being great elated sort of moments. The two are, the first one is from 1997 when the Crows won the grand final. And we were up in Queensland and we watched that. And that was like amazing. Did we watch the grand final up there?

I thought, I thought the grand final was back in Adelaide. No, I'm pretty sure. No, we watched it up in there in the hotel room. Yeah, yeah. We watched, remember the preliminary final we listened to in the car driving up there. and then the following week, we watched the grand final. 1998, the year later, when they won it again, you were probably back in Adelaide.

I was actually on holiday in Melbourne that year. In 97, it was St Kilda, and that's when Darren Jarman went crazy in the end, the last quarter, and the crows won. So that's a significant one. The other one is, of course, the one that, when the Richmond Tigers won their first flag as well. And that was exciting,

and that was kind of weird because it was against the crows. Are you sneaking in a hole, of moments that aren't going to be your moments because that's kind of cheating. Oh, okay, okay. Well, I was mentioning them to say, I was wondering which one of those I would choose, but actually, I don't go looking up either of those. What I do go and look up, though, for real, if I look up an AFL match, is also from 1989, and that's the 1989 AFL grand final, which was between Hawthorne and Geelong, which is often considered, you know, the best grand final, but has all these incredible moments in it. And I won't go through them all, because if you're not

familiar with AFL, then that won't be so amazing. But the one right at the beginning of it is really legendary. And that's where my favorite player, Dermit Brereton, was, well, poleaxed, we call it, where, and I've forgotten which player did it, actually, which, oh, I've forgotten who it was. I've forgotten who it was from Geelong. One of the Geelong players basically shirt fronted him and, yeah, just assaulted him. Totally off the ball, assaulted him. And he vomited up like brain fluid or something from his guts or something. But then, but then five minutes later, I think he broke a rib or something. Several players broke ribs in that game,

but then five minutes later marked and kicked a goal, and it was just sort of a legendary moment. But I go back and look at that. There's a very famous slow motion piece of footage that was like, after he was smashed to the ground, he got up and there was a camera right zoomed in on him. And it was one of these high slow motion cameras. And you could see the pain he was in,

and you're right, he was like bringing up fluid. And the assistance from off the field, were coming and trying to tend to him, and it looked like that, you know, he was going to be taken off. And you could see the agony he was in in his face. And then the fact that he kept playing in a couple of minutes later did something quite inspirational kind of, you know, who's considered this defining moment of the game, isn't it? He lifted the team. Yeah, yeah.

That's a good one, Matt. It's a very famous, very famous piece of footage. This was going to be my third one, but I'll do it second because we're talking about football. Mine is from the 1997, AFL, grand final, Australian roles. It was the first time Adelaide, our team, ever won. what is it like the equivalent of the Super Bowl and I'm going to pick a moment that I would hazard I guess you don't even remember Tim

but towards the very end of the game Adelaide looked like they had it pretty much in the bag and then one of the Adelaide players he was not a big famous player he wasn't the guy who like tore it apart but it was a player called Troy Bond and he scored the second to last goal of the game near the end and this was the goal that meant there was no chance we were going to lose

it was like okay once that went through the sticks this game's safe. Yeah. And I remember when he kicked it through, he celebrated in quite an unusual way at the time for an AFL player to celebrate. He was just happy and doing something with his arms and you know, screaming to himself out of happiness. And it was filmed from a camera angle that was kind of unusual for the time. And I think maybe because of the way they switched cameras, maybe they like broke the wall or something. So it looked, it jarred with you. But I just remember it stuck in my head. Suddenly there was this player quite zoomed in. celebrating in this unusual way

and the camera angle had caught me by surprise and I associated it with the elation of winning the game so whenever I think of winning that game although there were more important performances and things that happened that resulted in Adelaide winning the game

there was just this few seconds of footage of Troy Bonn with elation on his face and celebrating kicking the goal that just imprinted with me I remember it on the day I still remember it now I went back and watched it last night it was like yeah it's just like I remember it

It was a very unusual camera shot for a moment at a moment of great happiness for me. Well, my last one might be a bit surprising. It is Muhammad Ali with the Rumble in the Jungle fight in 1974 against George Foreman, which is... Before you were born? Totally before I was born, but I remember it well.

Now, I remember seeing this for the first time when I watched a documentary called When We Were Kings, which is a great documentary about the fight and its significance kind of in culturally and geopolitically and all the rest of it. It's a pretty legendary fight because it's in short, for those who don't like boxing or not interested in boxing, Muhammad Ali just talked it up so much, so much, so much. And then for the whole match, he really just danced around and absorbed punches and didn't really do a whole lot.

And so George Foreman wore himself out. And then I think it's in the eighth round, towards the end of the eighth round, then suddenly George Foreman's looking so tired that Ali just goes, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And then famously sort of holds back his final punch. He just watches form and fall to the ground and he doesn't give him the final punch. He holds it back as he swings around.

And it's a legendary moment. But I've gone back and watched that over and over and over again. My third moment is from a cricket match that happened in 1999. It was the semi-final of the World Cup between Australia and South Africa. Australia looked like they had it won. South Africa then came back in incredible circumstances and just had snatched the game in this remarkable way. The scores were level and level scores would result in Australia going to the final for technical reasons.

Scores were level. South Africa had it in the bag. They just had to get one more run. They had plenty of balls to do it. And then one of the South African players just had this brain fade and got himself run out right at the end in this like ludicrous circumstances. That just looked like a comedy was happening on the field. I couldn't believe what I was saying. You couldn't process what was happening.

And Australia went through to the final. And it's just this famous, famous moment in cricket. There are pictures of it because it just looks ridiculous on the field. And I was watching it on my own in the middle of the night and jumping up and down and had no one to celebrate because I lived with two girls at the time who didn't care about cricket and were asleep. But that certainly sticks in my memory as like, you know,

that's another burned in the memory moment. So that's my third TV moment. I'll tell you a moment I didn't name as my moment and that was I'm not going to go into the details again but it was a crash between Michael Schumacher and Damon Hill at the Adelaide Grand Prix that decided the world championship

it's one of the most famous collisions ever in Formula One history and it happened in front of me it happened five feet away from me I could smell I could smell the tyres screeching as it happened like I watched that happen and I watched Michael Schumacher get out of his car

and start crying start celebrating when he realised it didn't matter and he was still going to win. And that happened right in front of me. But for me, that's not a TV moment. For me, that's like something that unbelievably happened in front of me. So I've gone more for like TV moments in the spirit of your suggestion. Nice. Thank you.

Well, that has been a long segment if you're not heaps into sport. Sorry. But if you are, send us your moments. Send us your sporting moments. See if we share any. Because I mean, I could do, I could do 50. So is there an idea in this, people relaying sporting moments? Or do you think people telling is a bit like, show me, don't tell me.

Is it one of those? I don't think this is a great podcast idea. Unless you have an association with the moment that goes beyond, I watched it on TV and it was awesome. Oh, right. So you can get the backstory about it. Yeah, sure. It's a good TV. It's like the examples, all three of us, our examples, you know, we'd nothing to do with it.

They were just cool moments we watch. I think it's a great TV show 100 greatest sporting moments if you can get rights to all the clips and the moments because it'd just be great to sit there and watch them on. Well, that's right. But I would like to hear other people's favourite sporting moments because I find it really interesting.

So do send them in people. Do you think other people have had the idea of talking to sporting people about sporting moments in history? Do you think that's something that's caught on in the podcast world? I think, I don't know. I think it may have been done before. But it may be a made idea. There may be a few sport podcasts out there if people are willing to search hard enough.

I mean, I don't even think you're breaking new ground by saying, gee, that was really amazing that moment Tiger Woods chipped in that golf ball at the Masters. Other people may have noted it too. I think it's on the radar. Yeah. Poor Tiger. If that was his highest moment, maybe at his lowest at the moment. So hopefully you find some redemption, some healing.

back onto the straight and narrow. I don't know why someone as rich as him doesn't employ a driver, but that's a whole other issue. Okay? Now, we're going to go to the request room. We've had some really good requests sent in from patrons, man. Some really good questions and things to talk about. They're not moon-related, though, are they?

They're not moon-related. I'll tell you what, we'll make it a moon-free zone over in the request room and a sports highlights-free zone. Because I did vow that I wasn't going to be giving out any more statements regarding Artemis. People need to find their own information on that. That's right, man. You need to teach the people to fish, not feed them fish.

No, indeed. Thank you, thank you, man. All right. Okay, you ready for a request room? Let's go. There it is. They'll go if this will be out, surely. Ah, it's out.