The Unmade Podcast - 180: Satched

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

Harry Fire and Brady discuss plane footage, a microwave tune, more horses, bad birthdays, a dream sequence, then Tim hits us with some guitar doodles.Support us on Patreon (with access to the guitar doodles incoming soon) - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFMJoin the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/Unmade_Podcast/Catch the podcast on YouTube where we’ll have the Aggers plane footage - https://www.youtube.com/@unmadepodcastUSEFUL LINKSJonathan Agnew website - https://www.jonathanagnew.com/And Aggers raised money for Angel Flight - https://www.angelflight.org.au/The recent wedding episode featuring Two Piece Feed - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5hvxDk-gkIThe Port Arthur Tragedy of April 28 1996 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacreThe doodles will be available to download soon at our Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM

This is a really quick pre-show message because, Tim, I want to tell you something about the YouTube version of the podcast we do. The version that I put onto YouTube often has like a film that's almost like wallpaper. Like it might be lovely footage I filmed in Iceland or other things that are to do with the podcast. I always try and find something interesting to put on the screen that people can look at if they haven't got it hidden away as a tab and they can see it, you know? Just stuff to look at while we talk. Makes sense, right?

Yeah, yeah. Well, I've got hold of some new footage that I'm going to be using over the next, I don't know how many episodes, and I want to tell you how I came about it, because it's a bit of a shaggy dog story that might be interesting to a few people. So here we go. Okay. So there's a guy in England, a very, very English guy whose name is Jonathan Agnew. And Jonathan played cricket in his younger days.

He was a very successful first-class cricketer. He even played three test matches for. England and dismissed the mighty Viv Richards in one of those matches. So, you know, successful sporting career, you'd say. Yep. He's now gone on to become a commentator, particularly on radio, on the BBC. And he's very famous now as kind of the voice of cricket in England. He hosts a show called Test Match Special. He also commentates a lot in Australia. If you listen to cricket in either England or Australia, you will know Jonathan Agnew, or Agers, as many people call him. Right.

Okay. Now, I promise I'm getting to the point. I am going to get there. It also happens that Jonathan is the husband of my former boss. And we've become sort of friends because we often go to birthdays and weddings together. We often get seated together. And we've got to know each other quite well. Jonathan was even at my wedding. So I see Jonathan from time to time. He's like a friend or acquaintance of mine. Okay. Jonathan was recently in Australia for the most recent Ashes tour. He always goes to Australia when England go and tour in Australia to cover the cricket for the radio. So he spent a good month or two in Australia. And another thing about Jonathan is he flies planes. You know, he's an amateur pilot. And on this most recent trip to Australia, between matches, he did all these flights around Outback Australia going and doing talks and raising money for charity and stuff like that. So he did all these. cool flights around Australia quite recently. Right. Now, I was at another recent event. It was a mutual friend's birthday. And I got talking to Jonathan and we were talking about the Ashes and then we were talking about all these flights he did.

And then he said to me, do you know what? I filmed it all. I put these cameras on the plane. I've got hours and hours and hours of amazing footage flying across Australia at quite a low altitude. So you see it better than you do on the big jet airliners and he was talking about the beautiful scenery and he was a bit frustrated that he had all this footage and nothing really to do with it. That's cool. Yeah. And then I said, well, Jonathan, you've come to the right place.

I told him about the Unmade Podcast. I told him we're Australian. I told him we have these YouTube videos where we just want to show pretty footage while people listen. And I said, why don't you let me have some of that footage? And I'll just play it in the background while Tim and I are just doing our Unmade Podcast episodes. And he said, done deal. And he has sent me loads and loads of amazing footage shot out of his plane while he flew all around Australia, doing talks, raising money for charity, having adventures, all the stuff that he was doing in Australia. We've got it. We've got the plane footage. Brilliant. Brilliant. Oh, I love it. I can't wait to see it. It is amazing. It's extraordinary. A lot of it is over South Australia, our home state,

which is wonderful. Lake air with water in it, amazing sites, canyons, train lines. It's absolutely hypnotising. So if you're someone who consumes our podcast via YouTube, it's not the most common way to listen, but some people do do it. And I don't know whether those people just put a tab out of sight and listen, or they look at what's on the screen. But here is a new reason to look at what's on the screen. You can enjoy this amazing footage courtesy of Agers. And I'll put some links down below as well about what Agers was up to in Australia and stuff like that. So, man, maybe the footage is so good, people can just sort of, you know, put that on and then turn the sound down. and just watch the footage, and that's their experience of the unmade podcast.

Just mute us. Yeah, that might be the way to go. In fact, mute us and just put on some test match special and listen to Agger's commentating the cricket. That's probably the way to go. Nice, nice, yes. We've transitioned from being a podcast, an audio podcast, through to a visual scan of Australia with no audio.

It's just total slow TV. I love it. You never know where a podcast is going to go. You never know what direction you're going to go. So, yeah, anyway, our thanks to Jonathan. And it was a real, it was a, it was very kind of him to let us have this footage and it's something special to have a look at. So, uh, anyway, let's cut to the main show, hey? Hey, how's things?

How you've been going? You recovered from our wedding episode? Oh, that was epic. What an epic time that was. It was so great to hear two-piece feed together again, you and Katrina. Oh, I mean, I just hope we didn't overshadow the wedding. Wow. The couple.

Wow. I mean, you know. I don't know. It's. I have to say for those people who watched the video and saw Tim and Katrina performing together in Tim's office, I felt like when you suddenly just went off on one and started doing your little solo bit, like, I loved watching Katrina try to not laugh. Right.

I couldn't see. She was over my shoulder, was she sort of squirming a little bit or like, oh, is he going rogue here? No, I think she just found it funny how much you were loving it. in the first take that no one has seen that I have seen, the first version you guys did, which was also very good. She lost it even more, because that was obviously the first time she'd heard you really let rip.

So, yeah, there we go. I'm particularly proud of my harmonies, I have to say, just my sort of additional little flourishes there. And I think just added something. Brought the passion, I didn't hold back. The key is never to hold back, go 100%. I would never accuse you of holding back when it comes to singing, man. Thank you.

I sometimes wish you would. Brilliant. No, good fun. And all else, well, with you, how's the weather in Australia? How's things?

Well, it's totally satched. We're in the driest state, in the driest continent on earth, but satched, which means saturated, which means it's been raining. Satched.

I've never heard that. That is terrible. Even I've never heard. I've never heard that. And I'm from Australia. Oh, it must have arisen in the last 20 years. is then. We're totally satched.

Satched. You come home, you're wet and you're satch. Saturated. Yeah, okay. Satched. I'm having a little bit of cultural cringe right now, but let's move on. It is, it is, it is raining. It's raining. Cats and dogs. Yes, it is raining. Cats and dogs. Puppies and poodles. Yes, no, it's a very wet day. In fact, it's been some minor flooding around Adelaide, which is unheard. Oh, okay. Well, stay safe, man. Get up now, man. It was just for an hour or two early at the site.

All right. Yeah. So all like the roads and everything was satched. Mm. Everything was satched. Oh, you've forgotten. I feel I've lost you. I've lost you to the empire.

My goodness me. Let us move to some parish notices. This comes from Sondra. Because in a previous episode, Tim spoke about his microwave, making too many beeps and boops and driving him a bit crazy. It was part of our kind of possessed discussion. And here's what Sondra said. I have a suggestion on how to improve Tim's possessed microwave.

You probably saw this coming. But if it really needs to play so much music, it should at least be something that won't get stuck in your head after hearing it again and again. Play the attached MP3. Here's what Sondra sent. I love that. I really, that is amazing.

That really is amazing. I sent that to Tim before the show so he could have a little preview thinking, you know, you probably won't even listen because he's rubbish at doing that, that research, but not only did he listen, he, like, wrote this really enthusiastic text back saying he loved it. I thought you'd be like, yeah, you've heard one sofa shop, you've heard them all, you know, if anyone's heard a lot of sofa shop covers, it's you and I, but, uh, yeah, but you loved it. I do, I love it. I guess, I guess because it rings true, like, that is our microwave. Right. That is our microwave. It's just beautiful. Good impersonation.

All right. Yeah. All right. Thank you very much, Sandra. I'll never listen to it again. I'll be annoyed with my microwave for a whole new reason, and that is that it's playing the wrong tune. It's not playing the sofa shop, which... We need to find someone who can hack into it and, you know, reprogram it. Oh, oh gosh. That would be good. Yes, not just mine, all microwaves. Get on it, people.

Tim also spoke in the last episode. I think it was the last episode. Yeah, it was. It wasn't the request room. It was the proper episode. We spoke about horse racing, and Tim spoke about his love for... Is it Maccabre? Maccabee Diva.

How do you say the name? Maccabi Diva? Macaibi Diva. Macaiba Diva. Famous Australian racers. But I put a bit of an Aussie accent on there, man. Come on, get that cringe. Get past it.

All right. Macaibi Diva. Getting hosed down after a race getting satched by its trainer. The, so, and that got us talking about horse racing and do horses know whether or not they're racing? Do horses even want to win? Do they care? Do they know what's going on?

Do they care if they're in front? We heard from numerous people, including. Cade or Carday, I'm not sure how you say that. But they say, in the episode, Tim says horses don't realize or no, they are racing and to beat the other horses. He couldn't be more wrong. I actually think it was me who brought that up, by the way. So sorry about that, Tim.

Yes, but anyway, it continues. My wife worked with racehorses for decades as a groom. She says they absolutely know that they are supposed to be out front and win. They certainly don't understand the purse, prize money. No. But they clearly understand the game is to beat the other horses. I would be very impressed if the horses understood the prize money. But apparently they do realize they're supposed to be in front of the other horses.

They get the competition. Wow. Yeah? How do we know that? Because Cade or Carde's wife was a groom for many years. So she spent a lot of time with horses. So, you know, she obviously, yeah. I didn't care if she's a bride.

That doesn't mean I'd think anymore. Yeah. Ability to read the horses. Just because you're brushing the horse. Doesn't mean you can talk to the horse. But anyway, this also came in from Dexter, who said, I have a friend who's a jockey, and I've asked him all your questions. He says that some horses do know it's a race and do want to win,

mainly when they are older, younger are less so. They also do like running and racing. Modern whips are foam, and the BHA, which I assume is the British horse racing, Association are very strict on it. Generally, horse welfare is good in horse racing. So that's a second source. Okay. Second source.

But they're saying all horses, they're saying older horses. So what happens in a horse when they're like, oh, right, that's what all these people are doing here. Get it now. That's what that cups for. Yeah. Yeah, right. Turns to the owner and said, how much prize money did you say you've been getting

going for all these years? What? Look, I don't quite understand the odds. So if a horse can understand the odds. then I'd be very impressed. And I can also, just to back up something Dexter said about the whips and the foam whips, when I received my Order of Australia medal at Windsor Castle, you move from room to room to room with these groups of people who are also receiving awards,

and you make your way closer and closer to the prize. And in my little group of 10 to 15 people who were also winning awards for various things, you know, British awards and honours, one of the people was receiving his award for design. and coming up with the foam whips that don't hurt the horses. That's wonderful, man. But what is the point of the whip then? Like, if it doesn't hurt the horse, why not have a whip at all?

Like, what's the point of a whip if it doesn't whip you? I didn't ask that. Yeah, yeah. Does the horse just get immune to it and start thinking, go on, you can hit me with that foam thing. It's quite pleasant, actually, but yeah. Let's just wave your arms next to me. Maybe the whip is like a reminder.

It's just a reminder. You know, hey, we're in a race. Don't eat the grass. We're in a race. Or maybe it's... A reminder of the whip they get back at the stables. Is that what you mean? Or maybe the...

Maybe how fast you're whipping is like a code to the horse to... Okay, now's the time to speed up. Not much whipping means go slow at this point because we don't want to burn all your energy yet. Right. But maybe it's more... Maybe the whip serves more a purpose of just communicating with the horse rather than...

Like Morse code? Yeah. Morse code. Horse code. Beep, beep, beep, beep. Yep, yep. But you're right next to their ear. Why not just talk to them rather than the horse then having to run and remember Morse code,

which is a nightmare in itself? Maybe it's quite loud, so maybe the phone whip is just a better way of doing it. I don't know. Maybe horses don't understand human English. I don't know. Or maybe that whole medal ceremony was just an absolute... Yeah. Furfew.

Maybe. Maybe they were making it up. I certainly made up while I was getting my medal. I wasn't going to admit to the real reason. It was just Prince Charles took a wrong turn and found a room full of people who've made up imaginary, pointless things and podcast and YouTube clips. Someone turned to me and said, why are you getting a mental? I was about to say, oh, for sitting around in my pyjamas and making videos. But then I said, oh, I built an orphanage.

Anyway, there we go. There we go. Ideas for a podcast. Shall we do one? Shall I do one? You go ahead this time, yeah. This one's, this is not a great one. And it's also, we've done lots of stuff like this before.

But it was so in my head. I like to do things when they're like in my head and new to me. Right. So I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. This one involves birthdays and people's birthdays. And I know we've done a lot of stuff about birthdays and birth dates. I hope this has got a slight, like, slight tweak to it.

And the reason I'm doing it is. I hope so too, man. You seriously look worried. So basically, as you know, because you sent him a lovely present, it was Edward my son's birthday the other day. He turned four. Another thing you probably know is that my wife is very into like organizing things and parties and she goes over the top, in my opinion, in a lovely way.

She likes organizing parties. So she made a, so she organized a great party for Edward. It was a space themed party. It was cool. It was lovely. Entertainers and balloons and planets and space suits and all the food was space themed. It was like, she did a fantastic job. So part of that involves inviting all the kids from like, you know, nursery and friends and stuff.

I thought you were going to say all the living moonwalkers. All the moonwalkers from NASA. So, yes, continue on, sorry. Ladies and gentlemen, Buzz Aldrin. Buzz Aldrin. And to introduce him Tom Hanks and members. Yeah. Anyway, back to my point.

There were no moonwalkers at the party. Slightly over the top, yes. You have to invite the kitties, all the little kitties from nursery. And like, you kind of want as many to come as possible. And Edward wants them to come. You know, he lists off all his friend's name. and everyone he wants to come, and you're sending all these invites almost out into the void. Because some of these kids you don't even know.

You're just dropping these invites off at nursery saying, would little Jimmy like to come to the party and that? So we scattered out all these invites. And like, unsurprisingly, I think Kylie hopes as many of these children will come as possible. And Edward hopes the same. And I hope the same. But here comes the problem. Edward's birthday happens to fall during the time each year that is school holidays.

And when at school holidays, especially in England, everyone scatters and goes off on their holidays. They go, you know, off to Devon and Cornwall and Europe and abroad. So there are fewer people around. So we have this challenge each year of, oh, so-and-so can't make it. So-and-so can't make it. Oh, sorry, we've already booked a trip to Spain and all this sort of stuff. And it's this difficulty of when his birthday falls. Now, to their credit and much to, and we're very grateful, many people delayed their holidays for Edward.

Like some people said, oh, we were going away, but we've delayed it for a day because, you know, little Isabel really wants to come and Violet really wants to come and stuff. So we were really lucky. We were very lucky. But some couldn't make it, you know, of course, which we understand. And this is going to be a problem probably for the rest of his life because his birthday happens to fall during an important school holiday in the UK. So my idea for a podcast is something like bad birthday or born on the wrong day or in that. And it's basically trying to talk to people about their birth date and why it causes problems. Why their birthday is not ideal. And I think most people could probably find one. Some can't. We'd love to hear from people who wish they weren't born when they were born. There are some obvious ones, you know, being born on Christmas Day or really close to Christmas, I imagine, can be a bit of a pain in the backside for obvious reasons that we've talked about before, no doubt. We've talked about your birthday before, Tim.

Your birthday coincides with one of Australia's great tragedies. There was a really, really terrible gun tragedy that happened in Tasmania many years ago. And it happened on your birthday. So I imagine, particularly on specific anniversaries, you know, your birthday involves a lot of talk about this famous tragedy in Australia. Yeah. That's right. It does. And it, well, so it's always on my mind on my birthday.

I'm always remembering, you know. Yeah. Yeah. that horrific event. I remember as a kid, though, like, it just blew my mind when we learned that there were people that were born on the 29th of February. Like, it's just, you know, they were only five years old, you know, even though they're in their 20s.

You know, it's just, I mean, that was staggering to learn as a kid and an incredible novelty. Do you think that would be good or bad? Because obviously, those people still celebrate their birthdays on the 28th for the first, so they still get presents and stuff. I think actually it would be quite cool to have that as your birthday. I would like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The novelty would wear off, but not while you're in primary school. The novelty would remain all the way through primary school, that is for sure. You'd be king of the primary school because of the way it is. I always thought my birthday in the middle of June was kind of perfect because it's like right between Christmas. I always thought it was really good in the present zone. And I was always very pleased with when my birthday was. But that has slightly changed. I now have a reason to be disappointed. And that is, well, there are two things that changed, right?

The first one is a good one. The first thing is I ended up marrying a woman for whom birthdays and celebrations and special events are really important. So she really pulls out the stops to spoil me on my birthday. She, you know, it's fantastic, you know, and she does it for all her friends and family, you know, but I get the royal treatment. That's good, right? Do you like it? That is a good thing for you. That is nice, is it?

like attention and parties and things like that. But I like that she will, like, you know, I don't have to do any chores or anything and I'll get presents and I'll have a nice dinner and all that stuff. And I'll be spoiled by her. Yeah. I won't. That's great. I love, I don't have to do chores. I love that your reason for liking your birthday is still the same as when you were seven years old. It's like, well, I don't have to take the bins out tonight. It's a real, that's a real good. I probably, I get to sit in the special chair at primary school. You know, I don't have to like clean the blackboard or anything like that. I can have as much of chocolate as I want.

For the record, I would still take the bins out if it was Bidn Day, all right? So life is actually worse on your birthday now. Here's the second thing, though. Here's the second thing. Father's Day, which is a new development in my life, obviously, only in the last four years. Oh, yeah. Father's Day also falls right in the middle of June. It has been known to fall on my birthday.

And Father's Day is another day where my wife, Kylie, would pull out all the stops for me. So, that means I only sometimes will get one or one and a half special days. And like, so I feel like I've lost a day of spoiling as a result of my birthday being so close to Father's Day. It's the Christmas Day problem, but even worse, because it's a day where it's just for me. So it's almost like I'm having my, it's like if you had two birthdays a year and I had to have them both on the same day. So, no. So, yeah. No, we can see, we can, yeah, no, we're all hearing the trauma that you're going through.

Thank you. The, um, when you're a kid, was there any problem in the fact that I know that you had a swimming pool at your house, but because your birthday was in the middle of the year in winter, you couldn't have a pool party? Yeah, because, of course, yeah, in Australia, it's winter. It's too cold. Was that an issue? Yeah, no, it wasn't a problem because I was never that enamored by the pool.

Like, I liked the pool, but, like, but, like, but I was. So because I had a pool in my life, it wasn't special to me. Right, okay. So my friends would always come around and say, oh, can we go in the pool? And I'd be like, yeah, I guess. I'd rather go and play cricket or play computer games. But yeah, if you want to go in the pool, I guess. So the pool wasn't, like, special to me in that way.

My sister's born in January, she would have pool parties for her birthday. Yeah. Right, yeah. Do you, are you, this year, are you planning to play cricket or computer games or going to pool? I don't know. I'm thinking, my actual birthday, I don't know. But around my birthday, we're going to Disneyland, Paris for my birthday, which was basically a diversion, distraction technique by me

to sort of take the attention of me and make it more about Edward and Kylie, who will have more fun at Disneyland. Right. and so Kylie's like, what do you want to do? Carly's like, what do you want to do? We can do anything you want. For those, I'm sure Brady aficionados will know the date of Brady's birthday, but it's, I'm guessing it's going to be about a week from when this episode comes out, and Brady will be joining me at 50. Yes. How are you feeling about that, man?

I mean, old. Old. Yeah. Old. 50. Old for cricket and computer games. Yeah. Still.

Yeah. Yes. And a pool party with your dinky. I don't know. You just keep moving the goalpost, don't you with your age? Like, oh, 50 used to seem old. Now it doesn't. But I'm kind of getting past being able to pull that one, aren't I?

So, yeah, it is what it is, man. It is what it is. So it feels like, well, you sound lamentable. Is this going to be a bad birthday no matter what, man? It won't be a bad birthday because I know Kylie will make it special. And I don't mind being 50. I've been old for a long time now. Well, I'd tell you, it was wonderful having Kylie at my birthday.

Yes. Because you happened to be in Australia. Yes. So I felt very special. Yeah. So that's wonderful. So is your wife? coming over for my birthday.

She would. I think there's a couple of members of my family that had joined you at Disneyland. Absolutely. Yeah, sure, actually. Again, the attention wouldn't be on you, man. It would be... We're going to Disneyland for Brady's 50th.

Not really caring if Brady's going to be there or not, but there we go. Any other birth dates you think would be bad? Hopefully some people will get in touch and tell us about theirs. Tell us... I actually really envy. I wonder about twins, twins and triplets, right? I imagine as they get older, they just joy in the fact that they share a birthday.

They get together and enjoy their birthday together. It must be a wonderful thing, even if when you're a kid, there might be a little bit of, oh, I don't get my own special day kind of feeling. I don't know. Good question. I'll ask my mate, who's a twin, see what he says. There's a guy in our church who's an older guy, but he's a triplet. He's the youngest of triplets.

Wow. It's amazing. Nice. Yeah. But his other two. Particularly from his vintage. But his other two don't go to the church. just him?

No, and indeed, I think they've passed now. Oh. But, um... That's sad. Yeah, yeah. But it's just funny to meet someone who's old who's a tripling. He is the youngest, so of course he would be the last one. Still alive.

Yeah. Except that's not the case in the BGs, is it? Hmm. Okay. Where the oldest is the one who's living on the most. True. True. True.

That's right. Yeah. Okay. Nice. Who thought we... I still, I still, I still think it's undes. fair. He's the oldest. He's the best-looking guy. He's the main character. And then he lives the longest as well. I just think it's unjust how it's worked out.

He definitely got the good genes, didn't he? Like the youngest guy went bald and the other guy didn't have the nice teeth, whereas he was the really good-looking one, but he's the eldest. And you'd think, oh, well, he'll probably die soon first. But no, no, he's the one that's continued on. It just doesn't seem, It's like the hair and the tortoise, except the tortoise just got stuck somewhere and the hair just bounded to victory. Barry is also the best singer, isn't he? He's like the best singer of the... Is he?

Do you think? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not the lead guy. Got everything and a long and happy life. Like, it's just not... That's fundamental lack of justice at the heart of the BGs, that story, I reckon. All right. There you go.

There's my idea. Well, that's a pretty media. yoker idea, man. But thanks for sharing. I really appreciate it. People, can I just say people don't write in about that. Don't dignify that with an email. Do you tell, I think, like, imagine if your birthday is September 11, that must be a bit of a grind, like, you know, even just say, that's hard when, that's hard, because even just saying it's hard, oh, when's your birthday? What's your birthday? Oh, September 11. And like, does that just, does that just chill the conversation? Like, you know that? Well, you've, yeah, no, well, okay, well, now you've

just, you know, you've gone, you've gone all serious. So, yes, no, that would be terrible. Yes. Okay. And our thoughts go out to all the families affected by the family. Yeah. Okay. Well, yeah. All right. I'm just saying. I'm not saying, you know, I'm just saying. Well, what about what about the Fourth of July sticking with the mighty United States? Yeah. Do Americans hate or love having a birthday on the Fourth of July? Well, that's fun because there's a film called Born on the Fourth of July. So you have like a film named after you? Tom Cruise film too. Yeah.

That's pretty cool. Same with Independence Day. You could say, you know. Yeah, you could, yeah. When's Independence Day again? Is it always the same? It's November. No, that's...

11th? November something? November. Yeah. If you know when it... If you know what Independence Day is, send us an email. Send an email to Tim if you know what Independence Day is.

There's an obscure little country called America. this special day. Well, there's, as we found out once upon a time, is that, is that a huge number of countries all have independence days. And the one thing they have in common is that they all used to be British colonies. So they've all liberated themselves from, and they have independence days at all those, all those special times of the year. And, yeah, yeah, so I guess that's a thing.

There's actually, at the, at the heart of, there's a book by Selman Rushdie called Midnight's children. and it's about children that were born on the stroke of midnight on the day of India's independence. Okay. And that's like a thing. You know, there's children of the new sort of era. So look at all the incredible facts I'm adding to your idea, man. Okay, well, I guess you want to move on from my mediocre idea now.

Yeah, pretty quick. And so much so that I'm going to move on to something that I know is normally kiboshed on our podcast. Are you doing a moon of the week? No, no. But I'll store that idea away. Dreams. You know how we don't ever want to share each other's dreams? Like I had a dream last night that stayed with me vividly all the way through breakfast

and that I shared with my wife over breakfast and who was, you know, mildly interested. She was as interested in this as I was in your bad birthday. Go ahead, man, because I'm really, really pleased that you're doing something worse than what I did. So you go ahead. You keep digging, man. He's going to save you like nothing else. I had this dream light, right? And the dream was that I was a young boy and I was sitting on my living room floor and my parents

came in and my dad came up, went to the cupboard and got out a folder, a green folder and walked up to me and gave me the folder and said, look, it's time to tell you about this. And I looked at the folder. And it was from an adoption agency. Right? And I looked at, I can still see it now. And I was like, oh, wow. And I opened it up.

And I looked up and I said to them, you know, I've always thought this. Wow. And they go, yeah, we adopted you, right? And this is not true, by the way, as anyone would know. Absolutely not true. No, no, no. Just in case you thought this was an interesting story. Rest assured, it's not.

It's not true. It was just a, we should be a warning down the bottom of the screen, warning, dream story in sequence. And, but the first thing that I said is I turned to them and I said, I thought so, right? And then I said, what's my real name? Okay. And they, they looked at me and they said, Harry Fire. Harry Fire. And I remember, and I turned to them and I went, that is a cool name.

And then they started going on about, we're really sorry, like, we should have told you and all this. And I was just like, not even listening. I just said, no, no, that. I'm glad you've told me now. Like, that is a really cool. Oh, man. I totally hope I remember to credit you as Harry Fire in the description for this episode. All day I've been sitting with that name going, that is a cool name.

Harry Fire. That's my name. That's my real name. man. There we go. All right. Somewhere out there is a Mr. and Mrs. Fire. Yep. Let little Harry go.

And look what he's gone on to. Well done. Thank you for sharing that dream. And if you have a dream name, get in touch and send us an email. We'd love to hear from you. What is your alternative adopted name that you learned in a dream? It's time for us to dole out some prizes to Patreon supporters. Yes. Before we do, last episode we doled some out.

And you know there's this new rule where if you win a prize, you have to get in touch with us somehow. There are lots of ways to get in touch with us. Yep. So that I don't send the prize out to someone who doesn't want it. You've just got to say, yep, send me the prize. So I hear from the prize winners more often now. And one of the prize winners from last episode I heard from was Bass or Baz,

who was a first month Patreon supporter and won a prize right away. And Baz writes, talk about luck. If I would ever make a podcast called Your Luckiest Win, I would totally mention the collector cards win, this overwinning the heart of my beautiful wife. So well done.

First time as a Patreon supporter, won a prize, first go, and not a bad podcast idea. Your luckiest win. Do you ever win stuff like raffles and stuff? Never. Never, ever. No.

Oh, except for a quiz night, last Saturday night. Except for a week ago. That's not a lucky win. That's not lucky if you win, like, just win the quiz. No. No, no, no, that's right. It was pure skill.

But so it doesn't really count. In terms of raffles, things like that, never. I'm never very lucky at those, except the South Australian Press Association used to have a luncheon every month where they'd be like a guest speaker and that. And as part of it, there would be a raffle. And I won it two months in a row. One of my greatest, one of my greatest media accomplishments. What did you get a meat tray or what was the prize? I think maybe one of them was a meat tray. I can't remember. But yeah, anyway, so there you go. Well done, Baz. We finished off by saying, thanks for all the amazing listening time. Besides the prize chance, I have to admit, the request room is 100% worth it. So it is, the request room does make it all worthwhile. No request room today, by the way, sorry. But we've got lots of other bonus content.

It's worth sitting through the episode worth it in the end. There's no request room today, by the way, because we're doing lots of other bonus. content at the moment around lots of other stuff, which patrons will know about very shortly. And we also heard from another winner last week, Tim, Felix, who said, this was episode 179, where Felix won. And Felix says, my superstitions around my lucky number have just gone through the roof. What an amazing surprise it was to hear my name called out in episode 179. Since being the bus I took to primary school, 179 has ended my first phone number, been on my first bank card and now is the first unmade episode in which I've won a prize. Lucky 179.

There we go. I wonder if Felix clicked on 179 thinking, I'm probably going to win it. I'm probably going to win it now. I'm probably going to get a prize. It's just my number. Anyway, speaking of which, here are this week's prize winners. If I call out your name, make sure you get in touch. Oh, and speaking of lucky people, first off the list here, Barry Gibb from the BGs.

Unbelievable. It just keeps on winning. Who else have we got here? We've got Harry Fire from Traragin, Victoria. Legend. Congratulations, Harry. Legend. And some real ones here.

Michael G from the Northern Territory in Australia. Gema. Hey, Michael. Gemma H. Mick G. Wow. Like a Mick, like Mick Dundee. Like Crocodile.

Andy, Mick. From the Northern Territory. Because it's Northern Territory. Yeah, fair enough, yeah. We've got Gemma, who has a double-barreled surname, Gemma HF, hydrofluoric acid HF, from Great Britain. Peggy in California. I know Peggy, so I hope she hears this and gets in touch, because if you do, Peggy, I'm going to send you a prize. And Sam G from Durham in, I think that must be North Carolina.

Get in touch. Price is coming your way. Now, instead of an idea, Tim's going to do something special because in the last episode, Tim, I can't remember the context in which you did it, but I think you were playing the guitar for some reason. And you talked about, you talked about the idea of just like doing a bit of like doodling or riffing or something like that on your guitar. And would people be interested in like, you know, downloading them or getting them as their ringtone or getting them as like patron bonus things? And, you know, would there be, is there a market for Tim's playing around on the guitar, just doing a few little, what do we call them? What do we call them? You called them doodles, but that kind of doesn't give out enough. Yeah, guitar doodles. I don't know if that's a proper guitar term. Yeah. They're not quite riffs, but they're, because they're sort of a bit more eloquent, beautiful. Just little musings. Guitar doodlings. Anyway, I jokingly said, well, of course no one's going to want that. Of course everyone does. And we've heard from loads of people who said,

Yeah, let's do it. So today, Tim, Tim and I are just going to hang out. He's going to do a little bit of guitar doodling. And hopefully we'll take some of these and turn them into content, assets, maybe downloadable ringtones and things you can have, little unique Tim moments. Are you ready for this, Tim? How's this going to work? You've got your guitar, I say.

Yes, I've pulled out the guitar. Yeah. So I'm not quite sure if people won't. something as long as a ringtone or is it more of a, like it feels like that's almost a whole song. So I feel like it's maybe something a little bit shorter that just to play on repeat for an SMS or something like that. Is that what people have in mind? Oh, so I always think of ringtones as being quite short too. You think of a ringtone as a whole song. Well, you know, when your phone rings, when someone calls you, right, I have a whole song that plays. Oh, no, I don't do that. I just goes,

do-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l- Okay, all right. Oh, okay, okay, okay. But, yeah, I think they should be short. I think they should be mainly short, possibly for use for SMS, maybe a few slightly longer ones for a phone call. But, yeah, I was thinking short, not songs, just like little, just little moments, just little magical moments from the fingers of Tim. All right, well, let's see what we can come up here.

Here's an idea. Tell me what you think of this one. You might need to rate these men as to whether they're worthy on it. How did that sound? Mediocre. Everything's getting a mediocre from me, man. I didn't mind that. I didn't mind that.

Was it original? Yeah, yeah, these are all original, man. All original, all right. Yep, yep. I'm a font. I'm like a wellspring of creativity. I think it was maybe a little bit, maybe a bit long, or was it the right length? I don't know.

Maybe just the first bit works then. Let's see if there's a... Yeah, I can imagine that as a ringtone. Okay, okay, okay, well that's one. Yeah, okay, all right, that's one, all right. Here we go. Well, I've only got one, that's it. 50 cents for that.

Okay, okay, okay, here's another one. Oh, hang on, hang on. Oh, this is going to be like money for nothing now where I play something, and it's going to be awful. Come on, let's nail it. Okay, here we go. What's it called, you know, when someone's playing a guitar like you are? and you kind of hear the scratch on the metal of the strings.

Like a, you know, you can, yeah, like I note, I don't know if it's just the connection we've got, but I heard a lot of the metallicness during that one, which is fine. Is that, but is there a name for that? Is that like an acknowledged thing? What's that called in the industry, man? I don't know if there's a technical name for it.

It's just your hands sliding. Yeah. You know, that's all it is down the strings. There was a lot of metal in that one. It is, you'll hear it on a lot of professional recordings. It is actually kind of a feature, particularly of a live album, of course, but you'll hear it on sort of acoustic songs. Yeah, yeah, it's not.

But obviously, just they only have a tiny bit of it. I've probably clumsily doing it. Okay. Well, hang on, there we go. Maybe it's when the strings get old. Make sure you keep those ends nice and clean for me, man, so I can clip them up and, you know, make them available. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

What should we do now? Okay. Now, that's actually part of a song that I've written, but it's the first little riff of it. But it's still a Tim original, though. Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah. Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, Tim original. Nice. Absolutely. When's that song finally going to come out, man? Oh, look, it's caught in a lot of industry, you know, rubbish at the moment. There's a lot of record companies fighting over it, and then there's lawyers, you know, lawyers get involved. You actually did the big rocking horse before you released that song, which amazes me. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah.

So are you making these up as you go, or are these, had you planned them and now you're just delivering them to me? Or are these just kind of spontaneous? Oh, look, no. Look, those two are ones that I've had before, but, you know, look, there's another thing I've been working on here. Again, it's original, and I'll just, I'll just play it for you. I call that one Man on the Moon. It's just something I'm working on at the moment. It's nice little one.

Had a nice overbite as you played that one. You did like a real rock and rock and rock. Yeah, right. Oh, yeah. That's right. No, no, no. So some of these just come to you. I mean, if you sort of fall around.

I call that one one. Might turn into something. Man, stop. Let's, how about we do, how about we do word association? What if I say a word or say, just like paint a picture in your head and then, and you play just what comes to you, just what comes to the fingers. How's that? All right.

All right, I'll close my eyes. Yep, go for it. I want a woman in a black dress walking down a dark street in heavy rain, and she's satched. Satched? Yeah. Yeah, that's sort of, oh, is it?

You got to make sure. I don't know if that's really working, man. Make sure you give them to me clean. Don't like talk over yourself until you've done it. So I can, if one works, we can grab it later. Yep. All right. Okay.

Yep, good. That was ominous. Yep. Nice. Good. All right. Now, a young boy sits. on a brick wall in the front of his house in Marion,

coming to terms with the realization that his name is Harry Fire. I'm going to call this the fire inside. Ooh, nice. Nice. Okay. All right, he's got to go. So it's kind of punky. Yeah, okay, okay.

I think it's going to go somewhere. Yeah, I like it. All right. We do it. A young man soars through the pool, almost like a dolphin on his way to swim in glory. Uh, okay. Hang on.

No, I don't know. Does that do? It's all right. Yep, you're just got to do what you feel, man. Just got to your feel. Yeah. All right. That's a little riff.

I'll tell you, I'll play what I do. Every time I pick up the guitar and you do something with your fingers, you just do something to, you know, to pick it up and make sure it's, you know, switched on, even though it's an acoustic guitar. And that's, what I tend to do is this, I go, like, it's not even really anything at all. It's just sort of, you know, you just sort of get your hand on it. That's your, that's your, like, that's like you're clearing your throat. Yeah, that's right.

It's clearing the throat. So it's not even really anything. It's just sort of down the first fret, you know. I don't know why I do it. It doesn't have any sort of musical feel. I like it. Anyway, it's what my fingers feel like to do. I like it.

It's my favorite thing you've done so far. Oh, right, okay. That's also called the fire inside. Fire inside part two. The fire burns on. That's right. It just keeps going on. So we can collect a few of them.

Maybe I'll come up with a few more of these. We'll make these available. People can download them if they want to or not. Yeah. You are allowed to not download them too if that's your preference. Keep an eye on the Patreon page people And we'll use some of these that Tim's made now And we will maybe add some more later

When Tim's like happy with a few more of them But we'll definitely use some of those Do you think this is a podcast Tim Could this be a podcast? Just you know riffing, doodling Just riffing and doodling And then going, ah, nah, hang on Let me try that again

And then riffing and doodling a bit more And then going, ah, no, not really And then doing it again. Sure. I think that's a winner. I think that's a really great idea. I mean, clearly it's not. But it's funny how long I'll watch someone just doodling on a guitar.

Who can really play a guitar? You know what I mean? Someone like Tommy Emanuel or someone like that. But yeah, no, not me. Absolutely not me. It is a different side of you watching you do this because you're often like, a lot of the things we do creatively, you're a little bit more devil-may-care. And like, it's just fun and mucking around.

Yeah, go it. But doing this, you're like really like, oh, God. Like, you're really, like, unhappy with your soul. self and doing it again and you seem like like you're wrestling with the guitar, like, you know, some of them sound good and some of them don't, but like, it's not really like, it's not a side of you I'm as familiar with. Yeah, that's interesting. I do, like, I love having the guitar here in the office and it's right behind my desk. And so often during the day, if I'm thinking about something, you lean back, grab the guitar and just have it on your, you're not even on your lap and

just play something. And often not thinking about anything in particular, just looking out the window and just playing a riff or playing something. you're working on lately, just strumming away on a favourite song. And the point is not having to think about it while I'm thinking about something else. And it's just good to sort of, you know, stretch your arms and do something. And then you're like, oh, I'm working, you know, a minute goes past, you put it down and then you back into it again. So people who share the office space with you, like in the other offices, will sometimes

just hear a bit of guitar strumming come from your place. Yes. It is a bit of a novelty as well. If there's, like, a meeting going on or something like that, I'll go for a stroll down the call away with my guitar and just like come into the meeting just to be like bless them, leave them in a bit of worship, like singing or something like this. I'm just going, folks, here I am, you know. It's always like, get out, get out, you know.

I go, come on. Is it a bit David Brent, like sometimes in a board meeting, you'll turn to one of your colleagues and go, go get the guitar, would you? Oh, totally, totally. Yeah, yeah. One of my colleagues says that all the time. Go get the guitar. Bringing it.

Like, it's just all like, let me show you something I've been working on guys. You know, like the bad boss kind of feel. Yeah, yeah. Nice. Nice. That never gets old. I never let it get old. I just keep doing it all the time.

Do you have any questions about the guitar, man? Come on. Ask me some questions about the guitar. The guitar in general? What do you want to know? The guitar in general? What do you want to know about a guitar? Do you know anything?

Is there a better name for the hole in the guitar than the hole? Oh, well, I'm sure there is, but I don't know. Okay. Ask me something else that I do know. What does the word guitar mean? What's the origin of the word guitar? It's a good question. Right in, if you know the answer to Brady's last two questions.

I'm deliberately trying to think of questions you won't know the answer to. It's Latin. It comes from guitarum. What is the ideal wood from which to make a guitar? Like, you know, like cricket bats can be made from a certain wood and baseball bats and stuff. Is there a particular wood that it's best to make a guitar from? Uh, yep. Just looking for it.

Uh, it doesn't say it right. Like a, I have watched a YouTube clip about the making a guitar, but I have, I have no idea. Like cricket bats are made of Willow and things like that, so, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I feel like there is, but I don't know. All right. One more question. All right.

Do different guitars have different numbers of strings? Because you can have like a six string, can't you? But is that not normal? Like how many strings, do guitars have different numbers of strings? Good question, Brady. Thanks for the question. Yes, your standard guitar has six strings, right? Yep.

There is a small guitar with four strings called a ukulele, but there is also a bass guitar which has four strings. And that's, you know, the, you know what a bass guitar is and so forth. But there are also six string bases for very, you know, like very good bass players. players. But there are 12 string guitars and they are simply an extra little string in the same, a different octave, but the same note is, you know, put alongside these ones to just make a bit of a fuller sound, but it's still really a six string guitar. Okay. So pretty much always six for a normal guitar. That's correct. Same and same with an electric guitar, presumably. That's correct.

Yes. Okay. Yes. They are all, of course, they're strung back to front when a person is left-handed. So the lowest note is always at the top and the highest note is down the bottom. For a lefty. For a lefty or for a... Hang on. For a righty. That's for a righty what you said.

Okay. Seriously. All right. Bonus question, man. One more question. You're making the Brady idea segment look better and better every minute. People are crying out.

Play something. Stop talking. No one's ever said that before. Has anyone ever smashed himself over the head with a guitar. And if not, would you do it for me now, please? Yep, that's a, that's a move called the fire inside. Is it a dream of yours to play a guitar while it's on fire?

It's not a dream, it's more of a memory, man. I call that Tuesdays. Often if I play too long, I suddenly realize people, smoke alarms go off in the building. So that is a sign that maybe something is something smoking or that everyone wants us out as quick as we possibly can. I asked Edward the other day what musical instrument he would like to learn when he goes to school because the school he goes to is quite musical.

And I think they learn instruments for the first years at least. And he said, guitar. Yeah. And I think that's a good decision. What do you think? That's a great decision. I should really learn the guitar as well. I'd really like to.

I wish I was going to Edward's school. Do you think that's a good instrument for a kid to learn? I think the piano is probably the best for him to learn. Because you learn the piano. The piano is kind of like, it's at the heart of everything. You learn the piano, you can learn music really, really well, and you can sort of move on into other things really, really well. So it's kind of the middle sea of instruments, you know, the foundation or the cardinal.

Okay. And learning the piano stays with you in a way that does good things for your brain for the rest of your life. The guitar is a totally different instrument. Of course, it's based on music the same. But the guitar is, to be honest, quite a lot simpler. The good thing about the guitar is that you can learn it as well. If you're on the piano, you can then learn the guitar pretty well.

Because you can take it anywhere. You can sit on the couch. You can travel around with it. It's very easy to move around, whereas, of course, pianos aren't very easy to move around. But they are everywhere. I did used to own a piano because I bought a house that came with a piano. And when we sold the house, we sold it. with the piano. So you never move.

Oh, right. Yeah. I just think playing a guitar is going to serve him better for like impressing the babes. Yeah, I mean, that's not been my experience. Right. But Edward, Edward may do better than me there.