The Unmade Podcast - 181: Brady’s Birthday Barrel Rolls

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

Brady goes on an aerobatic stunt flight - and Tim is annoyed by the theme tune from Roger Ramjet. Plus loads of other stuff.A few snippets from the flight can be seen on the YouTube video for this episode - https://youtu.be/YQeBXNE868MAn extended video of the flight with multiple camera angles and all the audio can be seen on our Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM/posts/163054917With the thanks to Cabaero Aviation and pilot Mark Hooton - https://cabaeroaviation.com/Today’s Request Room - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM/posts/163143083Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFMDiscuss the episode on our subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/Unmade_Podcast/USEFUL LINKSRunway 23 - https://www.runway23.fm/Runway 23 on Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/runway-23/id1896917264Runway 23 on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/033x15ndR31wM6YujhTv4wPeriodic Videos (Brady’s chemistry videos) - https://www.youtube.com/periodicvideosTim’s downloadable doodles (or noodles) - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM/posts/here-are-guitar-161608346John and his gold card (and other pictures from the episode) - https://www.unmade.fm/episode-181-picturesSywell Aerodrome - https://www.sywellaerodrome.co.uk/Port Arthur - https://portarthur.org.au/The Port Arthur Massacre - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacreRoger Ramjet intro - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7SqSNQeAFMToday’s Request Room - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM/posts/163143083

Tim, can I start with an advertisement? Are you going to let me plug my new podcast? Please do. I like this podcast. Go ahead. Oh, really? Wow. I've started a new podcast without Tim.

I feel almost a bit naughty doing this, but, you know, these things happen. Tim is starting in a podcast of his own soon, so he'll get me back. Yes, yes. So mine is called Runway 23. So go and search Runway 23 on your podcast players and that. This is a podcast I'm doing with another one of my. very long-time friends, Hoffers, who also lives in Adelaide, and Hoffers is an airline pilot, even more enthusiastic about aviation than me, if that's possible. So this is a podcast where

I ask him lots of questions about flying and piloting, and we talk about stuff that has been on my mind and on his mind and stuff that's been in the news. And we also talk about big plane crashes. We love talking about plane crashes in the second half of the show. So Runway 23 is what it's cold, myself and Hoffers. We've done two episodes already. We've got lots more planned and do check it out if you're interested. You've had a listen, have you, Tim? I have, I have. I listened to the pilot episode. I really enjoyed it, but let me ask a few questions that I think people will have because I had them when I asked. So runway 23. What's that? Well, I think we've already spilled the beans on it a little bit, but maybe I'll be a bit mysterious about it and let people

have a think about it and figure it out. So yeah, I won't. It's an obvious question, man, but I'll be, I'll be a bit cagey about it just to kind of, you know, have a bit of mystique. So the people who don't care about it really don't care about it now. No. You see you're not using that to get them in. It sounds a bit like Wesley Snipes Passenger 57, you know what I mean? Like Runway 23. Is it a sequel to that? Is it something to do with that? No. Anyway, I know what it's about, but I have told, I have told Tim. of course, and it's not hard to figure out. But yeah, let's be all mysterious about it.

It wasn't hard to figure out, but I had to ask. That's what you basically. This is really great. I don't know if people have ever had this experience or not, but I've had it on a couple of occasions where I've found myself having dinner, talking to someone, and one of the people at the table is a pilot. And so immediately you fire that person.

I'm sure they must get sick of it. Although the pilots don't seem to get sick of it. They seem to really, really love it. Pilots don't tend to mind talking about the fact that pilots, from my experience. No, that's right. The fact that he reached under his table, you know, pulled out a hat and put it on to answer the questions was telling. You know, there's all those questions that we want to ask about planes and about flights and all that kind of stuff. And this podcast is basically that.

And I was loving it. It was fantastic. All right. Not just because I know Hoffers a little bit as well. But it was like, he's a great explainer and you're a good questioner. and that was a good combination. Oh, well, thank you, man. There's lots of got lots of good ideas and lots of stuff to come.

So, yeah, do check it out. Episode two, we talked about our favorite aviation-based Lego sets to really, just in case you thought we weren't big enough nerds. But, yeah, got lots of good ideas on the list, so we'll see how we go. Do you know what I found? While I was, you know, looking that up, I discovered that you've actually done a whole bunch of other projects online, man. And you've actually done like YouTube clips and stuff as well.

I wasn't aware of all this sort of stuff. You thought I was just an unmade guy? I do have a few side hustles going on YouTube in addition to our podcast, him. Yeah. You've been encouraging me to check them out and winging that I never do. And I went and had a look and it's like, oh my goodness, look at this. I filmed a video yesterday for periodic videos, my chemistry YouTube channel, that I'm still excited about.

I've still got a little bit of residual adrenaline going through me. It was such a cool thing we did. It was so violent and explosive. I lost one of my cameras to it. One of my cameras was destroyed, yeah. But happily, because it was worth it. Wow. Wow. I'm so buzzing about it, but I'll keep a secret a bit longer.

But it's going to be, it's going to be, I mean, it probably won't be hugely successful, but I'm going to love it. I'm really excited about it. So, yeah, watch this space. Keep an eye on periodic videos, people. Big chemistry reaction coming. Well, if you lose a camera in the making of an episode of Runway 23, I'll know something very serious has gone down. So that's funny, you should say that, but we will come to that shortly.

Okay, all right. Yeah, all right. It's funny, very prescient of you there, but we'll come to that in a minute. Do you think there's any chance that people seeing that Brady Harron has released a new podcast called Runway 23 that they're going to think that it's about modeling? Well, possibly, possibly, you know, I am no way. for my swagger. You swagger down the runway? Yeah. Yeah, no.

Trust me, with me and Hoffers at the helm, there is no modelling involved whatsoever. Cool. Well, thanks for that. I'll put a link in the notes for runway 23, and if I remember, I'll plug it at the end. But pause now, pause now and go and subscribe because you'll forget in a minute. Once Tim and I get going with all our fabulous ideas,

you're going to forget about runway 23 and this plug will have been for nothing. It is good. It's good. Like, just to be really clear, because you made the point about Lego and nerds and all that. I'm not a Lego guy and I'm not a plane guy at all. This is just like if you don't care about it, but you're a pilot.

Oh, I've always wanted to ask this. It's that level and that is interesting. Parrish notices. Let's follow up some stuff from previous episodes. We've had lots of communication over the past week or two, Tim. In relation to Tim's doodling on the guitar, we did release all his little ringtones and attempts at making little sketches on the guitar, But numerous people got in touch and said, is this not called noodling when you fidget around with a guitar and make little sounds and things?

Apparently that's called noodling, the people in the know have been saying. So it should have been called Tim's guitar noodles, not Tim's guitar doodles. Yes. Yes. Perhaps a safer word. That's, now you say it, that makes a lot of sense. Yes, I have heard that term before. I've never considered myself much of a noodler, but yeah, no, I think that's right.

I think that is the correct word. I don't know if my noodles qualify as noodles, but certainly they certainly don't qualify as songs or riffs, so that's probably the best they can do. Tim is currently doodling with a hope to upgrading to noodling at some point. That's right. Artistic Maureen got in touch. Apparently that sound that your fingers make on the strings, that kind of wide. fiery noise that I asked you about. That's called fret noise. And apparently the hole in the guitar, I asked you what the hole in the guitar was called. You didn't know the official name for it.

Apparently, it's the sound hole. Right. The sound, right. Okay, well, that again, makes a lot of sense. Yes. Yes, I can't argue with that. Disappointing. Moving on to birthdays, we talked about having your birthday on a bad date for one reason or another. Dexter got in touch and said, my birthday is on the 31st of January, which is the tax return deadline in the UK. And as my dad is an accountant, it is his busiest day. So it is often a struggle for him to find time to celebrate with me. Oh, right. Yeah. So that's an accountant-specific one. We talked about 9-11, September 11, obviously the famous terror attacks in the US having your birthday on that date. And that caused a lot of response. Loads of people got in touch about that. I'll just read a few of them.

Britain said, my wife's grandpa was born on 9-11, and my grandpa died five years ago on 9-11. I'm an American, and of course, remember to think of those affected by that tragic day, but it carries an extra burden for my family to think of my grandpa on that day. My wife's grandpa has a birthday that is naturally overshadowed by 9-11, but thankfully her sister and uncle have a July 4 birthday, to offset that 4th of July. So there we go. But then Britain said, P.S., I forgot to mention that my grandpa who died on 9-11 also had a birthday on New Year's Eve. So the whole world was always celebrating on his birthday and now laments on the same day of his death. Thank you for making me think of that. Gosh, there we go. There's a lot of our birthday intricacy going on there, but there is. There you go. We've just had the 4th of July by the time this goes out.

But the other day, we have a person on our staff. Chris, whose birthday is on the 4th of July. So we had our little, we always do like a little staff lunch and go around and say what we appreciate about the person on their birthday. And every year I forget, oh yeah, 4th of July, of course, there we go. What do people say they appreciate about you when you do those little ceremonies? Oh, it goes forever. There's so many things that they say.

I mean, it's just, I have to cut it off and go, no, no, guys. Enough, enough. Enough. Go and get the guitar. Generally it's crickets and then someone says, oh, well, you're very prompt. Alex says, my brother was born on the 11th of September. His birthday present in 2001, of course, when the attacks happened,

was Microsoft Flight Simulator. Make of that what you will. There was a lot of gossip that the terrorists used Microsoft Flight Simulator to plan their attacks. Oh, okay. I don't think that's true, though. I think that's a myth. Right. But I'm not sure.

Stephanie says, my daughter was born on September 11 last year. I don't think it will be as bad of a birthday for her as one would think. It has been 25 years since the event now. And eventually it just becomes a date in history rather than a reminder of trauma. And while I agree with Stephanie, I do think, you know, because it was so big in our life, you know, I've got a lot of younger people in my life, like nephews and that. And for them, September 11 is not really a thing. You know, it's almost like World War II to them.

But one difference is that the tragedy is named after the date. And I do think that makes a difference because it's called 9-11 and September 11. I do think that adds a little bit more to the date itself. But fair point, Stephanie. That's true. It's like the 4th of July, isn't it? I know that's Independence Day, isn't it? But it's called the 4th of July.

And I think that's unique. Yes. I can't think of another major event. that's really just named after the day. It was never given another name, was it? The attack on the, like, all the people going and storming the Congress, was that January 6? January 6, was it? Yeah, yeah, that's a bit, yeah, that's right.

So that's a bit like that. And the terrible attacks by Hamas on the people in Israel, because it gets named after the day as well. Oh, yeah, the October 7, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. So it's an increasing fad. I think, I wonder in the past things were given, yeah, named, it's not called, I mean, what else could it have been called, the New York attacks or the Twin Towers?

People just seem to have gone with a date, which is really interesting. Maybe because of the 9-11 branding, 911, that's why it works. Yeah, that, I'm sure that contributes. The other thing I was thinking the other day is it's funny to think that before then, September 11 was known already as a pretty notorious date, but for anti-eastern. globalisation protests. There were massive protests that happened around the world and anti-globalization against the World Bank and all that kind of stuff. So I know there was a World Economic Forum like meeting in Melbourne the year before and I was down there and it was like all of Melbourne,

the city was cordoned off and there were thousands, tens of thousands of people on the streets. It was like a revolution, massive protests everywhere trying to get into the stop the World Economic Forum from happening in this. particular, like, building casino on South Bank. And so it was like this, the S-11 protests. It was S-11. That was a significant day for protesting globalization. But yeah, that pretty quickly was overtaken by the events of 2001, yeah. What a somber start to the podcast. I promise it's going to get better people. Last episode, you know how I do this thing now when patrons win prizes, they get in touch to

claim them? That's the new. Oh, yeah. way we're operating, which is really good because it means I get to have little conversations with all these Patreon supporters. Sam G got in touch. Sam wrote, I'm claiming my prize. So there you go, Sam, well done. And sending my sofa shop violin rendition. I listen to the podcast with my friend David, who I met at violin camp. He alerted me to the win before I had the chance to listen. So the surprise was somewhat scuppered. We live in different countries, but have kept up with unmade together. So that's lovely. Here is Sam G's rendition of the sofa shop on the violin. There we go.

Nice, nice. It's been a while since I've heard a rendition of the sofa shop. Apart from the one that I played on top of the rocking horse. But, you know, from a contribution from a stakeholder. And one on a microwave last episode, but you know, who's counting? That's right. Yeah, yeah, no, that's right, apart from that one. Well, it's not... That was fantastic. That was a lovely beautiful, that was a beautiful rendition. That was bringing a bit of class. I mean, from the...

Not quite as classy as a microwave, but the violin certainly has a bit of class about it. I can't hear about Sam and David at violin camp and not think about what happens at violin camp. Right. Like, what happens at violin camp? Is it like band camp? I love that there's Sam and Dave. Do you remember years ago? Some of the years ago when we were going to our friend Mark's birthday and we didn't know what to buy him as a president

and we saw one of those $2 CDs for sale for Sam and Dave who we'd never heard of. And we bought him that and wrapped that up and gave that to him. The greatest hits of Sam and Dave. I forgot about that. Sam and Dave at Violin Camp. That is an album I would buy. And also a shout out to John who got in touch.

John is a big collector of our spoon of the week collector cards. He has managed to complete the original 23, which is a feat in itself, which he managed to do after doing a trade with Colonel Katrina, apparently. I don't know how he got in touch with her, but they did some kind of trade through the post. So he's got the 23. He's now working his way towards the 100, which is like, you know, the new release. Can he get all 100 cards? But he wrote in with a picture, which I'll include below, saying, I was thrilled when I opened my latest packs to discover a signed gold card.

Wow. So the signed gold cards are out there and John has got one. I can't imagine the emotions that must have gone through him when he opened his pack and saw that glint of gold. That's incredible. Massive, massive. That's a Willy Wonka moment. Card seven, he got signed by Tim and I.

So a picture below of the, of, we've got permission to use his picture where he's proudly displaying the card. Well done, John. I hope he doesn't give away his location for security reasons holding onto that card. He said he was going to display it in his classroom. I think he might be a teacher and he's got an unmade podcast souvenir spoon, one of the actual spoons. And he said he was going to display it in his classroom next to the spoon, which I think is incredibly risky. Oh, gosh, yes. Yeah, that wouldn't have survived five minutes in our school.

No, no, no. Huge spoon fans at our school. We were obsessed. Kids would get rolled in the school yard for their spoon collections. Podcast didn't exist. So, yeah, it was all about the spoons and the spoons. Yeah. And the spoon cards, of course.

We were purists back then. We weren't, we hadn't sold out by doing podcasts about spoons. We were just into the spoons for the sake of the spoons. Spoons for spoon's sake. That's right. Yeah. But anyway, there we go. Well done, John. Thank you, everyone. Always love hearing from you. Loads of people got in touch. I haven't read everything out. I'm so sorry, but I have read everything and enjoyed it.

Shall we do an idea for a podcast? We will, if you've got a good one. Do you have a good one? I have, as always, it's quite inspired by recent events. But I think it's a good one, and it's a good excuse for me to tell you about some fun recent events in my life, one of which you don't know about, I have kept secret. Oh, okay. Just so I could do it here on the podcast. Right, okay. All right, all right.

We're not having another baby. Right. I didn't think of that, but yeah, okay. All right. So, it was my birthday recently. It was. All right. And that is what's inspired the idea for a podcast.

Let me deal with the podcast first. My podcast idea is called The Element of Surprise. And this is a podcast about surprises where people can come on and just tell stories about times they were surprised. The big surprises in their life, because people love hearing and telling stories about surprises. You know, wedding proposals is a classic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Finding out you're pregnant. I found out Kylie was pregnant because she attached a little pregnancy attached to the collar of our dog and sent the dog into the room.

And the dog jumped up on the bed and there was this, with a little bit. this with this like, you know, stick attached to its collar and I had a look and it was like, hang on. And it was like, oh my God. So that was a memorable surprise. Well, that certainly is, yes. Yeah. And another classic is birthdays, you know, surprises for your birthday. And I have mentioned before that Kylie and my wife loves birthdays and loves going big, especially milestones. And because this was a milestone birthday for me, she went big on surprises. And of course, There were presents. There were lots of great presents, lots of unexpected things. She had a huge frame made with 50 framed pictures inside are all drawn by Edward, which was amazing. So I've got these 50 pictures by Edward in this one big picture frame. Fabulous surprise. A lovely watch from 1976, my birth year, was a lovely surprise. Leather drink coasters with the unmade podcast stamped on them, made from our Australian nut leather was another lovely surprise.

Lovely. Oh, nice. Lots of great surprise presents. Yeah. But she also organised some surprise experiences. She said, keep the day free. So I did. Yeah. She took me to five guys for a hot dog for lunch, which was a nice surprise because I love five guys.

Amazing. Say no more. Say no more, man. That's wonderful. The ultimate surprise. End of story. That was great. And that's a big sacrifice for her going into there because she's a vegetarian and doesn't like five guys. but she took me there. And then she said, okay, we're going and doing something this afternoon. I imagine she had booked us in for like a couple's massage or something, which I was really looking forward to.

We drove out to where I thought we were going to go and have the massage, and she pulled up in a street and said, here's your surprise. And I looked to the right. And it was this like high-end tattoo parlour, and she'd booked me in for a tattoo, which I had no idea was coming. So I got a tattoo, which is lovely. I was wondering what that was across your neck. I had it done on my wrist and it's a little, it's actually a little ED in Edward's actual handwriting

because when he signs cars, he writes Ed instead of Edward because it's easier. And he's got his like little four-year-old handwriting that's quite cute. So I've had that tattooed on my wrist in his handwriting, which I really love. It was a nice surprise. So I'm aware of this one. I'm aware of all these. Yeah, so. Okay.

So that was it. And then that night she said, oh, we're going out for dinner. but the surprise while she'd organise this little party at a little gin bar near us and a whole bunch of friends who I didn't expect to come, came along from all different parts of my life. So had a nice drinky night with friends, this little surprise party at the gin bar. Another surprise. And that was lovely too.

I don't remember receiving an invitation to that. I invited you at my house for my birthday. But anyway, that's fine. I remained here in Australia. And I flew across the world for your birthday. I noticed you didn't do it for mine. No, no. That's because I invited you.

You didn't invite me. I'd otherwise I would have. Anyway, it's a long way to come just for a couple of jins, man. But anyway. Indeed. Anyway, I didn't think much more of it. My birthday was over. And a week or two later, it actually becomes Kylie and her mother's birthday.

Their birthdays at the end of June. So we had arranged to go back to Kylie's hometown in Northamptonshire and have a big family gathering of about 20 or so people. And I realized my birthday had been. recent and people were going to probably give me a present and say happy birthday. But in my head, it was all about Kylie and her mother this birthday. Yeah, yeah. We went to this place near where Kylie's from called Sewell, where they have this lovely historic aerodrome, like old-fashioned airport. Oh, yeah. It's all kind of art deco architecture, and they've got a nice bar and restaurant,

and we go there all the time. I've probably been there 20 times. You go there, you have a meal, you have some drinks, you walk out out to the airfield and look at all the old-fashioned planes on display, and there's always planes taking off and helicopters and things happening, but it's got a real kind of picnicy, grassy, lovely feel. It's a really lovely place to go. And before we had our meal, we did what we always do, and we walk out along like the apron and look at the planes, and Edward watches the helicopters taking off,

and you see all the old-fashioned spitfires and World War II planes and stuff like that. And then when we get to the gate, where the pilots go in, where the public can't go anymore, suddenly the gate is opened by my nephew, and Kylie says, I've booked a flight for you and it's like an aerobatic stunt flight Wow

And I have and like And I'm like walked out a few metres to this little plane This little white plane that looks not much bigger than your old Renault Yeah With a pilot waiting next to it And I and I strap in and go flying 4,000 feet above Northamptonshire And start doing barrel rolls and loop to loops And all sorts of crazy stunts in a plane

Oh wow so hell let me picture this Are you sitting next to the pilot or behind the pilot? Like what's it like? Next to the pilot, next to the pilot and sometimes taking the controls. Oh, wow. Gosh. Surprise. How was that? Scary at first. Yeah, yeah. Were you terrified or were you like exhilarated?

Well, let me tell you the full story. I was going to save this bit for later, but I'll tell you now, when we first got there and we parked the car, there were all these lovely World War II airplanes like biplanes parked that are on the grass waiting for the day's events. And I actually turned to Kylie and said, I was admiring them and taking a few pictures. but then I turned, then I didn't want Kylie getting ideas. I turned to her and said, by the way, don't ever book me a flight on one of these things. Yeah, right. I would not like to have a flight booked for me. And she said, oh, why is that? And I said, because that's how people die doing those things.

So don't ever book me a flight. I don't want to die doing some, you know, pleasure flight. She didn't say anything, but she knew the whole family had booked me this flight that I was about to go on in 20 minutes. So I, so I would, it was not something I would have chosen to do. But then when I'm there with all my family members saying, Surprise, we've booked you a fly. Like, what can I say? I can't say I don't want to do it.

No, that's right. And there she goes, airborne. We're at VR. We'll just hold the nose down. Everyone's looking at you. Film them on the left. See you later, family. Whoa.

You're not wasting any time. Nah. But I was thinking, I did look down at my fancy watch I was wearing, and I was thinking, if we crash, I wonder if they'll be able to get this watch. out and give it to Edward as an heirloom to remember. I was literally thinking that, wouldn't it? I was thinking through all the like, if I die, what's going to happen?

So I was, I did find it quite, I was worried. Once I was up there doing, I actually had a good time. The pilot was fantastic. I really enjoyed his company, and we had some great chat, and we had some banter during the flight. I do like, I mean, I like roller coasters and stuff. I did like the exhilaration. Did you say, you wanted to do a loop?

Oh, okay, if you assist. Okay. I didn't think you wanted to do a loop. but okay, fair enough. Here goes a loop. Yeah, we're doing a loop. We're upside down. That's not what it's supposed to look like.

That's definitely not what it's supposed to look like. You know, you do feel your stomach sinking and you feel a bit woozy, but I did enjoy the exhilaration. But unlike a roller coaster where you feel like strapped in and in control, the plane's kind of like just kind of floating and hovering there and it just feels a bit more bouncy and a bit more fragile. So it does feel a bit scary. than a roller coaster because it just feels like it could just fall out of the sky.

And I'm very aware of how planes work. So I'm very aware of how stoles work and how planes can lose their lift. And at one point, you said, oh, right on the edge of a stole here, like, as he was just like tweaking things. And I'm like, in a relaxed kind of way. But I'm very aware. And you know, you know how into plane crashes I am. And my aviation podcast, I'm obsessed with plane crashes. And suddenly I'm thinking, oh, the internet's going to love this.

Brady dies in a plane crash after years of talking about plane crashes on podcast. So it was pretty, I was a bit freaked out. Do you want to see a bit of footage? Oh, please do, yes. There were cameras strapped all over the plane, so I've got all sorts of footage. Let me send you just a quickie. Oh, God.

Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, yeah, wow. That's cool. That's great. Fantastic. I love it. You look like you're flying.

Well, I mean, he wanted me to fly more than I did. He was like, do you want to do the next one? and I'm like, I'm quite comfortable with you flying the plane, to be honest. But he was always trying to get me to do things and take the controls and steer the plane and stuff. But, you know. And we're climbing up to get some more height. There we go. And if you can hang on to the camera, we'll do a snap roll.

A snap roll. Yeah. Okay. Do you think it's because he wasn't very confident flying the plane? Do you think he was deferring to you? It's like, well, this guy's got a podcast on plane. So I guess he knows what he's doing. Yeah, I was very, very glad when we landed.

Well, you was it one of those, that was amazing and I'm glad it's over kind of things, was it? Yeah, yeah. I wasn't thinking, oh, let's go for another hour. I was quite ready to say, okay, I'm going to turn around and bring it home. I was like, yeah, I'm good with that. But it was cool. It was a really good experience. And the footage is amazing.

I tell you what, I will talk about this more on my aviation podcast, Runway 23, for those who've forgotten, because I'm sure hot. offers will have a lot of technical questions for me and we'll probably talk a little bit more about the aviation side of it. So you can find out more there. Yeah. But I will post some exclusive footage from the plane over on the Unmade Podcast Patreon too. So you can watch my face, the expressions on my face as the plane goes into all sorts of crazy manoeuvres.

And about there. Hang on to it. All right. Whoa. Like that? That's right. It was a right. I've been on rides with you, right, where it's a bit scary,

and I've seen you a bit freaked out, and even to the point of singing Garth-Brook songs to yourself to try and come for yourself before we got down again. I'm a lot more comfortable with rides now. I was a week ago, I went to Disneyland, and we were on all sorts of roller coasters and stuff, and I was fine with that. I can do that easy now.

Like, I'm very comfortable with rides now. You're very brave surviving Disney. Man, well done. That's great. I can tell you're 50. That's right. There's some good rides at Disneyland. I went on one called Hyper Space Mountain. It was at Disneyland Paris. That was pretty full on. But the plane was where it's at. Cool. You wouldn't be up for a parachute jump then, would you? I probably would. I wouldn't book it for myself. I'd do it if there was like, you know,

I'd probably work. I think of it through the lens of work. Like this whole flight I did Like after I'd done it All I was thinking was Oh this would be good I've got some good I can make a really cool video Because I've got like all these camera angles

And I can talk about it with Tim And then I can talk about it with Hoffers On the aviation one as well And so like like Like I don't know I guess I look at it through that prism And then like the danger goes away a little bit Out of your head

It's kind of like It's kind of like you're cloaked in work And the fear subsides a little bit If I was just doing it for the thrill I probably would be more scared but if I'm doing it for work and I've got work things to think about, the fear goes away a bit. Feels a bit more purposeful. I remember, was it last year or a year before?

On a birthday previously, you did a big balloon flight, didn't you? Hmm. Did that freak you out? What was this like? This was a lot more. No, this is much scarier than a hot air balloon doesn't. Hot air balloon like is a bit freaky because you're so high and just being high with just air holding you up and a basket holding you is a little bit scary, I guess.

Yes, but I don't, but it's very gentle and safe. The loop to loop and the barrel rolls in the plane feels a lot more, okay, you know, are we going to, when he, because just before he does a barrel roll, he goes up 45 degrees, and the plane starts to slow down a bit, and I start thinking, oh, you know, how much slower can he go before this plane stalls and stuff like that? But, but, uh, okay. Yeah.

Anyway, I've got like a whole, I've got loads of video and lots of stuff, and I'll post more stuff. But it was certainly a surprise. It was a surprise. I've actually got a growing history now of also ruining Kylie's surprises in a way because I did this thing this time where I said, don't ever book me a flight. I would hate her and then she'd book me a flight.

That was for my 50th, obviously. For my 40th, I had been coveting a particular Rolex watch for quite some time and I didn't really need because I already had a nice watch and I'd talked myself out of her and I decided I didn't need to get this watch. And shortly before my 40th birthday, like a week before, I was talking to a friend and Kylie was present and we were talking about watches. And I said, for a long time, I've wanted this particular Rolex, but I've decided I don't want it anymore. In fact, I don't want it. It's the wrong watch for me. And I'd talked myself out of it and I'd come up with a whole story

as to why I didn't want the watch. And I've made a really good case as to why this was not the watch. If anyone got me this watch, I mean, I'd shoot them. Like I'd just, I'd cut my arm off if it was on my wrist right now. That's right. Sure enough, my 40th birthday rolled around and Kylie had managed to get me this watch. She was like, I don't even know if you, I don't even know if you want it anymore, but here it is. And I, of course, I did want it. And I was like, it's like my, it's actually become my favorite watch now. I wear it more than I wear my Amiga. But, um, but yeah, anyway, so I must learn to keep my mouth shut before my birthday about surprises. But, uh, but, but, but yeah, the, uh, the plan, I had no idea. She was like, you didn't know. And when you, you're,

look at it now, you know, we were going to an airfield. We went for, Kylie said, let's go for a walk and look at the planes. The whole family of 20 people came for the walk, not just, not just the youngans. Everyone came. It's bleeding obvious now. Never occurred to me. And we got to the gate where you go into the airfield itself. And Kylie turned to my nephew and said, do you want to put, do you want to put the code in? Because there was like a code on the gate. Like, you know, you could just step over the gate, but there was a code in it. And my nephew lent over and typed the code and the gate opened.

And I was like, that's amazing. Is that some trick he can do where he looks at what numbers have been pressed the most times or something? Or like, how does he know how to open the gate? So even to the point where they were opening the gate to the airfield, I was like, it just didn't even, it never occurred to me. And then Kylie said, you're going on a, you're going on a stunt flat. Even if they were strapping a parachute to my back, putting goggles onto my head.

I was like, what is this? What are we doing here? Go and have a look at the video patrons. Can I just say a shout out to, um, Cabero, Cabero, I don't sure how you say their name, Caboero Aviation. I'll put a link to them in the notes. They're at Cywell Aerodrome.

They haven't paid for an ad or anything. This was just a normal paid experience. But they did me a bit of a favor of helping me out with the video, and it was a really good experience. And if you ever, in the centre of England in Northamptonshire, definitely go to Sywell Aerodrome. Just if you just want to go and have a nice time.

Seymwell Aerodrome is amazing. Just an amazing place to go. want to do a flight, you know, check these guys out. And shout out to the pilot as well. Mark Houton was his name. And he was Australian. He was from Melbourne. And he was great as well. The Houtemeister. Gosh, I haven't seen him for ages. Thanks, Hootmeister. And thank you, Marion, Darren, Michelle and Kylie in particular, who I think were the main conspirators arranging the surprise. So there you go. My idea for a podcast is surprises. Tim, have you ever been truly surprised, surprise party, something someone's done for you, something that's been arranged

behind your back where you've gone, whoa, I was not expecting that. I have never been truly surprised, but I have an example for this particular podcast because in our family, there's a pretty legendary moment. I think it was 10 years ago, or maybe, I don't know, when I turned 45 or 40, something like that. And I was, again, taken by the whole family into a car on a same kind of, we're going off, we're going to do something special. It's going to be a great day and all the rest of it. And then there were a couple of complications. Like we had to go to the shops and then we had to stop somewhere.

And then we had to pick up my mum to come with us as well. And then there was some issue. I remember we were parked somewhere. And I was in the backseat with the girls and stuff. And we're going off on this great day. And dad's not going to know what it is, but I was told to wear certain clothes and stuff. And there was some reason we were parked there. And I suddenly, someone said, oh, how are you feeling, Dad? And I said, oh, I'm actually not not feeling that great. I was feeling a bit woozy or something like that. And, but, you know, of course, I'm not going to ruin the day. I'm going to go and be a part of it and all the rest of it.

And my youngest daughter just suddenly said, you don't want to miss that on the horse riding. And then the other daughter just said, no, no. And it's like, and then suddenly the little one realized what she'd done. She'd let the cat out of the bag. And, you know, she was, you know what they're like. kids, they're more excited about you having a surprise than they are. So she was horrified and burst into tears and just howled. And, oh, man, there was no consolation that could be given. And so that's become legendary. So we went off and we had a lovely day horse riding. But every now and then we bring

it up, that comes up again and again. Whenever anyone's got a surprise from anyone anywhere, we always talk about her blurting it out. I think ruined surprises are often funnier. than the actual surprises. Yeah. We arranged a surprise party for Kylie's mum, my mother-in-law, and it was a huge party being thrown at one of the other daughter's houses, right, which was a few blocks from her house. And everyone was there.

There must have been like 50 or 60 people there. She didn't know it was happening. It was incredible the secret had been kept because it's a small town where they're from and everyone's a blabber mouth. But anyway, it had been kept a secret and we were all waiting there. And in five or ten minutes, someone was going to go and pick up Kylie's mum and bring her to the house. under the pretense of a lunch for three or four people.

And all these people would be there and it would be a huge surprise. But 10 minutes before it was due to happen, some friend of the family who'd been invited, who she hadn't seen for years and was some obscure a person, I can't remember his name, like Neville or something, he turned up, but he didn't realize it was being held at the sister's house. He thought it was at her house, the mother's house. And he turned up with a present and flowers and a champagne

and knocked on the door. And my mother-in-law opened the door. and there's this guy she hasn't seen for years with a present and flowers. And she's the only one home. And he just looked at her and she looked at him and he went, oh, no, I've ruined it, haven't I? And then he turned around, walked away, got in his car, drove off, never to be seen again. It hasn't been very much sense.

No, really, he didn't come to the other party. Didn't even come to the party. Just came, ruined the surprise at her house and then left. Couldn't face it. Oh, I've ruined it, haven't I? I just left. I love it. Oh, that's fantastic.

The shame. Oh, that's great. Oh, right. That's great. We often do the thing where, oh, we're taking you out for dinner when you get there. There's like, you know, some other people there or something like that. Yeah. You guys did that for my 18th birthday, didn't you?

I remember I was just going to go and have dinner with you and a friend of ours, and she came and picked me up to, take me and then all all our friends and schoolmates were all waiting upstairs at a at the restaurant. But as I walked into the restaurant, one of them had come downstairs to go to the toilet and I bumped into him as I was walking in. I'm like, oh, Ben, what are you doing here? And he's like, oh, nothing. He was that, he was that guy. He was that guy that ruined it. He never came out of that toilet. Just exited through the back corridor. I'd never seen again. I don't like surprises because of that, because of the pressure of blowing it.

Like, it becomes, it becomes, it actually becomes a real burden. Like, I booked, like, for Kylie's birthday, I got her a ticket for a show in London to go and see this new Paddington show that she wants to go and see. So I bought tickets a few weeks ago. But because Kylie's always booking stuff and she's so organised, I've just spent the, and it's not, we're not going to October. But I've spent the last three or four weeks just so paranoid that she's going to book something or do something or book a holiday. or get a work shift or something that's going to like bring it all crashing down. I just, I don't like the pressure. I always, I like, I like the idea.

I know, certainly I think part of the reason we don't do this is because my, my wife doesn't like surprises. She's like, the idea of a surprise party is, is kind of horror to her. Whereas I quite like being surprised by that. But no one ever does anything. Like, I never get any surprises. So I just walk into, on my birthday, I walk into doors, get all ready to go, oh, my God. goodness and it's like, oh, there's nothing there. Nothing.

Yeah. Oh, you're not. Tim spends his whole life in this permanent state of suspense walking into rooms. Today's the day I'm going to be surprised. I cover my eyes and then I come in and I go, oh, oh, it's just me. Yeah. Every morning when you come out for breakfast. Hello.

Hello. Hi. Hi. Oh, no, it's just me. Yeah. It's just me. There we go. Do you ever get off a plane when you get to the airport and think,

I wonder if people are going to come and greet me and have a scientist? Yes, yes, all the time I think, oh, maybe they'll have come in. You know what I mean? How it's like, I will pick you up when you go, you know, not for the interstate trips. Of course, you grab an Uber and you go home. But when it's from overseas, you think maybe they'll be at the top of the escalator. You know, at top of the walkway, no, no, never there. Just you.

Just you go out. And then the worst thing is you have to wait. You go outside standing there. You think, and they're like, oh, we're just stuck in traffic back. And it's like, what? Now I have to wait for you. You're supposed to be here with balloons for me. People tell us your stories of surprises and tell us your stories of ruined surprises.

We'd love to hear, would love to hear your surprise stories. Have you ever been truly surprised? It would be cool to hear some big stories. I know people go to some big effort. It would be wonderful to hear some rip-roaring stories of surprises. Yeah. You can email us at our. email address, Patreon, Redder, all these usual things. You can get it. You should be able to get in

touch with us by now. We are not that elusive. No, indeed. I'm pretty sure it's Unmadefm at gmail.com. But the Redder and all that stuff works too. Surprise us with your surprises and go and watch my aerobatic flight. Basically, I'm Maverick. Because I was inverted. You're Maverick? No. No. If anything, you're goose. No. Well, he was inverted too. I was more in the goose roll. here. No, he was, man. It was a really great move. Should we do a spoon of the week? If you got a spoon? Let's do it. You ready? Cue the music. Come on.

Spoon. You know how we're saying that this episode kind of started on a dour note? And we were talking about like special birthday days and tragedy. You wouldn't believe it, but I've got a spoon from Port Arthur. Oh, okay.

Yeah. So I guess we better, just to flesh it at some details here. Port Arthur is an old convict colony, the ruins of an old convict colony down in the south of Tasmania in Australia, not far from Hobart. So obviously it used to be a, it used to be like a prison. Now it's like a tourist attraction, like a heritage place, which is a really cool place

to visit. But now it's become more synonymous with a disaster, which happened on Tim's birthday. April 28, that is, isn't it? That's right. What year did the Port Arthur massacre happen? Was it 96? I think it was 96, yep. Yeah, and a gunman went there and took a lot of people's lives and it was Australia's worst gun tragedy.

You know, it happened on Tim's birthday, hence the coincidences we were talking about earlier. So these days, if you say poor Arthur to anyone in Australia, I think their mind unfortunately tends to go there. I went to Port Arthur before the disaster and it was a fabulous day. I had the best time and they did these ghost tours as well where you'd go there at night and like a person would walk around and tell you all the stories about prison. and convicts and graveyards, and it was really exciting and it's a very beautiful place. Well, this is a classic day where I'm grateful they didn't turn the tragedy. They didn't name the tragedy after the date. You know, it's not April 28th.

Because, you know, it would have been one of those occasions for me. But it's the Port Arthur Massacre. That's really what it's spoken of. Yeah. That's what it's called. Yeah. Anyway, this spoon, coming to the spoon now. They're coming to the spoon.

A lot of tragedy today, isn't there? There is. It is, yes. No, there is. Tragedy and surprises. But the spoon, but the spoon obviously predates all of this and there's a, from the tourist attraction, obviously. No, indeed. It's not a, it's not a spoon marking the tragedy, man. No, it's not, they make spoons to commemorate that horrific event. No, this is a spoon from beforehand. Look, it's quite a unique spoon. It's one of those ones that's got, like, it's all silver, and it's up, the head is like a little, like basically a mini statue. It's got a little man and it's got some, I think he's a convict and he's got a stone

wall behind him. He's one of those convicts, you know how they have chains on their ankles that go to like a big heavy ball, you know, like a steel ball. It looks, I mean, because it's like all silver, it actually, strictly speaking, could be like he's carrying a balloon around on his foot. So he's got, I can't say it. He's got the ball on his foot, has he, like the old cliche? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, down the bottom there, yeah. And then it just says Port Arthur and then Tasmania, which is the state. The stem is all spirally. And in fact, it may even be silver because it's quite bendy. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's also quite heavy. And then it goes down to the scoopy bit, which is very small, but has a lovely sort of serrated aspect to it.

So when you put your finger in there, it's actually almost like a nice, comfortable scratch of your finger. It's nice. Oh, like a little thumb massage. It is. It is very much so. although it's probably, it fits perfectly with your little finger. Nothing on the back, no brand. That's it, man.

It's a nice spoon. Nice. Have you, where did it come from? Did your dad go to Port Arthur or did you go, did your family ever go there? No, I never went to Tasmania before my honeymoon with my wife. And I've been there subsequently, but I've never been to Port Arthur specifically. No. I don't know why we didn't go.

We drove around and we went to Hobart and, you know, we stayed in Launceston and Devonport and everywhere in between. but no, we didn't go to Port Arthur. I would like to go, of course, to have a look at it some time. We plan to visit around Tasmania again. But yeah, nice, nice, lovely, lovely spoon. Beautiful spoon. Added to the collection.

Thank you for bringing it to the table. My pleasure, man. My pleasure. Have you got an idea for a podcast? I know when we were about to start recording, you were sort of scratching around a bit. I know you're working on something big for a future episode, but how are you for today? I'm so excited about this next episode. Like I'm really excited about this idea.

That's going to be really, really cool. But the idea that I had for today, this will come down a little bit to what you can draw from it. But I'll see, hang on, I'm not sure the word I actually used for it. I don't want to use the wrong word, but the word, I'm still disgruntled. That's the name of this podcast. I'm still disgruntled. Disgruntled, annoyed, irritated. And the thing, the example that I put there was about how long the Roger Ramjet introduction theme music went for compared to the length of the episode of Roger Ramjet when I was a kid.

I remember Roger Ramjet was a really short little cartoon, wasn't it? They were always little nuggets. But it did have a long start. It did have like an anthem, didn't it? Roger Ramget and his eagle fighting for our freedom. It was based on a famous. American song, isn't it? That tune for Roger Ramjet. I'm just checking on the internet, man, to see if I can figure it out.

Because that theme was, I think it's based on some sort of famous American. Just to be clear, the podcast idea is not specifically about Roger Ramjet, right? It's about I'm still disgrunt. Like, things a long time afterwards, totally irrelevant to your life now that you're still annoyed by. Roger and Jet, he's our man, hero of our nation. It was Yankee Doodle was the song. Oh, of course, of course. But yeah, okay, so you, yeah, okay.

So this is like minor annoyances, which is, you know, but what's like, how is this podcast I different from just things that annoy me? Is it things that annoyed you when you were little? Things that you annoy me, no, no, things that annoy you generally are annoying you now, right? They're things that have happened recently, right? Yeah. This, I was thinking about, I was thinking about Roger Ramjad, I don't know what brought it up, but I was thinking about, I'm still annoyed.

Like, I was annoyed at the time. And even though it's been, what am I, 50, so it must be 40 years, more than 40 years since I last saw an episode. I still don't, like, that still annoys me. It feels like they got, I feel like they were stealing 15 minutes of my time for five minutes of new content every time. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so that still annoys me now. And then I got thinking about what other things are there, that, that, that, that,

even though it's totally irrelevant to my life now, it's still, it's still annoying. I got any others? Just Roger Ram, yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it's funny how, like, I can remember things in my childhood, like certain latches on gates that I had to go through to get from one part of the house to another or to get to the backyard and stuff that caught in a funny way that were hard to undo and needed a bit of WD40 and never got it.

and they annoyed me and I can still and I still feel annoyed about that now like I remember a particular gate at my house that I had to reach through a hole and push the latch up but it was a bit rusty and it always took a bit of wobbling to do and I haven't used that gate for 40 years yeah and I still remember how annoyed I was by it like that that gate latch I remember a moment in class in primary school and it would have been upper primary school and it was one of those days where, you know how primary school we have like two classes at that year level. The whole year level was in together, in a big room. And we were having some sort of special discussion and presentation and not just our teacher, but the other class's teacher was there and the principal.

And I can't remember what we were talking about, but there was some sort of discussion we're unpacking it all. No one was in trouble, like it was an educational kind of experience. But I remember the principal asking a question of the whole room and the whole room answering one way and me answering the other way out loud. Do you know what I mean? Like who knows? Blah, blah, blah, blah. And everyone's going, no.

And I go, yes. And I just remember in that moment being 100% sure, like it's so obvious the answer being yes. And every, but me being the only one that said that. And I have no idea what we were talking about. But I remember the feeling of him going, who said yes, right? And me going, and, you know, all the people around me going, Tim, Tim said, yeah, you know, something like that.

And they're freezing in front of everyone. And knowing the answer, knowing that I was right, but that I had a slightly more informed or different perspective on it, but not having the courage to say it. And him saying, why do you say that? And then pausing for a long time. and then me looking like around at everyone and then well we're waiting and then looking over at the other teacher and him looking at me going why and then looking you know what I mean like one of those like an eternity and me never finding the courage to say the answer but just sitting there

like quietly and then finally it moving on and I remember thinking I should have said it like I was right and even and that still annoys me why didn't I say it why didn't I say it it it annoys me it annoys me that I can't remember what it is too. But you know what I mean? It's one of those things like if I could go back, I was the only one that knew. I had one of those that I remember really well. I was in like a Sunday school type environment.

And I was in a group of, with a group of kids all about my age. I don't know. I don't know how old I was. Late primary school, early high school, I don't know, but young. And I was in a group of like 10 kids or so with an adult who was like a leader. And we were told to say what, animal we thought God would be if he was an animal.

Oh, yeah. And we went around the circle, and I can't remember what people said, you know, they all said like different things, eagles or horses, I don't know what they. And it came to me and I said a polar bear. Right. And I think that was a genius answer. And some of the other kids all started laughing at me. And one of them said, polar bears kill people.

Like that undermined my argument? And everyone laughed. And I think the adults sort of quelled things down a bit and said everyone's entitled to their opinions and good on you, Brady, and let's move on. And to this day, I think a polar bear was a great answer because they're big and like white. So they've got this kind of purity and goodness about them. And yet they can be savage and brutal and kill and powerful and strong. And I still think my answer was the best answer of all the kids' answers. and I just sat there a bit embarrassed because everyone laughed at me and said polar bears kill people

so they can't be God. You think God doesn't kill people? These kids hadn't read the Bible. Have you read the Bible? Yeah. I know. And to this day, to this day, I still feel like outraged that my answer was laughed at and I didn't stick up for myself and fight for the polar bear.

And are you annoyed that you didn't get the opportunity to sort of unpack your rationale, your reasons as to why? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel this great injustice. I think injustices from your youth. I think we've discussed this before are a really fun one.

Have I told, I'm sure I told the story before, but I remember when I was in year five at school, someone had something stolen. I can't remember what it was, but something was stolen from one of the kids. Yeah. And the teacher was trying to figure out who had committed the theft, because it was obviously one of the other students.

And the teacher said, if you think you know who it is, write the name down on a piece of paper. And everyone else, But everyone was given a piece of paper, and all the pieces of paper were put in a bucket. So no one would know who dobed, who dobed in the person who did it. And then the teacher took out the pieces of paper and unwrapped at them all and looked at all the names to see if anyone been dopped in. God, this is like the Vatican, yeah.

I know, I know. And then, because it was the end of the day, he said, okay, everyone can go home now, except Brady and Michael, I want you to stay behind. And I was like, I hadn't stolen it. I was like, what? What? Has someone, like, named me? Like, falsely. I can't believe this.

So all the other students left, and me and Michael were left behind. And then the teacher said, actually, Brady, your name wasn't written down. I just didn't want to out Michael in front of everyone. Brady, you can go now too. And Michael was kept behind because he'd been the one dobed in and had stolen the thing. But the teacher had made it look like I was also one of the possible candidates. So I was like this sacrificial lamb. Yeah.

Like my reputation was head. Why did he choose me? I mean, I was a little bit naughty in year five, I admit it. But still, like, and I felt this incredible injustice because for once I was innocent, and I was being made to look like the guilty party to cover for Michael. Like a stalking horse for Michael or something like that.

Everyone's going to go, oh, Brady, yeah, no, everyone all think it was Brady and Michael sort of got away with it. I'm still, yeah, they probably went home and told their parents, oh, Brady and Michael stole something. And I was innocent. And I'm still disgruntled to this day about that. It would have been great. she'd turned around and said, well, now Brady, your Pope, congratulations.

By what name would you like to be known? Can I just say your polar bear thing? I've been thinking more about that. And I think it's because I also think, because polar bears are at the North Pole, and the North Pole have like this kind of mystique because of Santa Claus and stuff. You know, it's like a magical place because of Santa Claus. Like heaven. Yeah.

It's like this special thing, yeah. It was a great answer. It was so insightful. and yet I was laughed at. And they catch fish, like they're fishes, fishermen sort of, you know. That's kind of a very Jesusy kind of thing with Galilee and stuff. What animal, what is a better choice of an animal to be God than a polar bear? Well, the lion is used a lot in like the Narnia stories and so forth.

A lion's good. Lions kill people. That would have been laughed out of Sunday school. Lion has a beard. A lion has a beard. though and Jesus had a beard so that's probably a little bit more. I don't think it was Jesus. I think it was God.

I think it was God we were having to do, not Jesus. But I know they're kind of one of the same in some ways. But yeah. Yeah, right. Still disgruntled. Yeah, good idea. We probably need a bit more prep there. But there are lots of things.

Yeah, lots of things when you're young and they still get on your nerves. Connections between polar bears and God. I've got you on one now, haven't I? I sense a sermon in the making him. Yeah. There's not been a movie made about polar bears. Polar bears are interesting, but you think they're the subject of a XA movie. Yeah, golden compass.

Golden Compass. Oh, is that okay. That's the His Dark Materials series featured polar bears quite a lot as like warriors. Oh, okay. All right. Bears are one of those things where, you know how in American stories, because we grew up as kids like forever watching American television. and people are always scared of bears. You know, they go camping and you're scared of bears.

Where in Australia, we don't really think about, you know, we've got koala bears and we don't think about that. We think about snakes and spiders and, you know, stuff like that. Yeah. But the bears are cuddly and lovely and warm and so forth. So in my whole childhood, I've always thought about the fact that, why are these people running away from bears? Why don't they just, surely they just go up and sort of tickle them on the neck and so forth?

Or, you know, they're not going to be that scary. It's definitely true that North Americans have a very different perspective on bears to us. Well, yeah, I have no fear of bears. I know I probably should. And I'm sure if I bumped into a grizzly bear in the forest, maybe my tune would change quickly. But, yeah, I haven't got, well, I haven't, yeah, we didn't grow up afraid of them. I always feel like I can get away from them, too. Like in the movies, they're always standing there, like a grisly bear.

And I feel like, oh, I'll just take four steps back. And you know what I mean? I'm fine, you know, there's like. They don't look like they would be quick, but they are quick. No, but yeah, no, I assume they are. But a lot of my experience of grizzly bears comes from, you know, those either television shows or from Grizzly Adams or from those little golden books, which, and featuring the Disney characters going off and camping like Mickey and if you're going camping

and there's a bear. They hear a bear and it's like, oh, but then they became friends with the bear because they gave him a steak. So it's like, huh. I grew up thinking bears were lovely creatures. that lived in a house as a family and ate porridge. That's right. That's right. Although I guess Goldilocks did run away, didn't she?

All right. Well, we will stop now and retire to the request room because we've got a lot of questions from Patreon supporters, man, and we didn't do Request Room last time. So should we go off and do that? I like Request Room. This is one of my favourite parts. So I'm looking forward to this.

Come and join us in the Request Room if you're a Patreon supporter. Also come over to the Patreon and have a look at some of my flight footage from my aerobatic flight. And do go and check out Runway 23 if you are so inclined, my new aviation podcast with Hoffers, which, you know, I think's good. You tell me what you think. I think it's good too. I think it's good.

All right. There we go. Okay, man, I forgot to put the secret word in, which is terrible again. So can you please either just put this word in, banana, banana, banana, somewhere or this sentence. Roger Ramjet, which was on just after or just instead of Banana Man.