The Unmade Podcast - 183: A Pointless Reunion

Episode Date: July 31, 2026

Tim and Brady discuss trivial reunions with people from your past - featuring a surprise guest in the room!Bonus video from ‘the big moment’ is available to Patrons - https://www.patreon.com/unmad...eFM/posts/165272118Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/Unmade_Podcast/Catch the podcast on YouTube where we include accompanying videos and pictures - this one is worth your attention - https://www.youtube.com/@unmadepodcastUSEFUL LINKSViewer pictures from Bhutan and other pics from this episode (contains episode spoilers) - https://www.unmade.fm/episode-183-picturesBrady’s Everest fly-by - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3AK7c42mUY

Glacial Podcast 52 episode recap - https://www.unmade.fm/glacial/52-recapHolden Barina - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_BarinaKangaroo Jack - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_JackWith thanks to Charlie CarboneCharlie Carbone merch - https://the-unmade-podcast.creator-spring.com/listing/barina-sold-by-carbone

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You told me you just had a nap, a pre-show nap? It was a micro nap. You know, I read somewhere that the perfect length for a nap is 24 minutes, and I think mine was 24 minutes. Perfect, man. You just judged it beautifully. I did. I did. I brought it in 24 minutes, woke up.
Starting point is 00:00:17 It's the balance because I woke not feeling, you know, groggy if you sleep too long, then it's like, oh, that wasn't a proper sleep. Oh, no, I've sabotaged my sleep later on. But this one I literally open my eyes and went, oh, lovely, okay, and then stood up. Yeah. Well played. Maybe that's what I've been doing wrong because Kylie and I sometimes give each other, like on weekends or we'll give each other a break, you know, parenting break.
Starting point is 00:00:40 So you go, you go take an hour and go upstairs for a nap. And we usually make them an hour long. And I'll usually try and fall asleep. I mean, I guess I don't fall asleep straight away. So maybe I do sleep for something close to 24 minutes, but it feels more like an hour. And I always wake up a bit groggy and then I'm a bit useless for another hour or two. Yeah, yeah. I think of a nap as being like an album length.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Like I put an album on. This is a proper nap when I'm like, okay, I'm going to have a nap now, not tonight. But I put an album on, lay it down on the couch and the sun in the afternoon, all that kind of stuff. And the song, and by the second song, generally I'm asleep. Okay. But I like to think, I like to wake up during the last song. Nice. And do you often, do you often land that?
Starting point is 00:01:21 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because songs playing and filling the room. And so I kind of, because it's a nap, you're kind of, you're not deep sleep. you know what I mean? I don't think you're in whatever you call the REM sleep, but it's kind of you're with the song and sometimes it's painting pictures in your mind, and then you're like, okay, I'm coming to the end now, and I don't know, I just kind of wake up. Do you have an absolute go-to sleep album?
Starting point is 00:01:41 I do, I do. It's a Nick Cave album called Ghostine, and I, that is my nap album. That's the only time I listen to that album is in my lounge room with it playing as I go off to sleep. Is there something about those songs that is particularly sleepy? They are. It is a very ambient album. It's beautiful for that. And I just love it so much and it means so much to me, which is funny to think I go to sleep to it. But it's gentle and beautiful. But there's enough interesting things going on lyrically that it keeps me engaged. And yet it's so familiar that it doesn't distract me. I don't start thinking. I'm just like, oh yes, this is wonderful stuff that I've thought about before and here it is again and away I go. If you hear songs from that album when you're not in sleep mode, like on the radio and some other context, does it have a physiological effect on you? Does it start making you sleepy? You know, I thought about that because I was listening to a live album of Nick Caves driving back from holidays and bright horses. One of the songs came on and I went, oh, this is, I actually was thinking as I'm driving, don't switch off here.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Like, you know, I actually literally had that thought, I've got to, I've got to remain with it here. This can't be a trigger. No. I mean, it's not like I just suddenly, you know, collapse, you know, like, like click your fingers and fall asleep, like hypnosis or something. But it, that's, that is kind of, I like that album being that thing I have. And I hope I always do. It's kind of like this wonderful little world I go to on a sunny afternoon,
Starting point is 00:03:16 asleep on the couch, particularly on a Sunday after a big morning at church. And then you have that lovely nap. And then you wake up and it's like a whole other day ready to go for Sunday night. Yeah. Of course there is a subset of people listening who use our podcast to sleep. How do you feel about that? Well, I thought that's why we do moon of the week. That's for you to sleep.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I, yeah. Look, I understand that. Yeah, I listen to podcasts going to sleep, find interviews and do that and stuff. I'm glad they find us sedating. Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up. That's right, yeah. We just need to clap every now and then and freak out. them. Someone right now is listening to this while they're trying to go to sleep and we're
Starting point is 00:03:59 making them think about going to sleep rather than going to sleep. Parish notices. I'll keep it quick. You know how we talked about surprises and ruined surprises? Yes. We had a lot of messages and feedback on that. I'm not going to go through them here on the show, mainly because they're normally quite long and quite involved. Like they involve all these like subplots and necessary background information for it to make sense. So I haven't decided exactly what to do with all these messages people sent. But if you did send one, rest assured, I have read it and enjoyed it. I'll read one just for the sake of reading one.
Starting point is 00:04:40 This comes from Kelly A. Dear Tim and Brady, my husband and I have been binging the unmade podcast on a cross-country road trip. When you guys were discussing surprises and ruin parties, I couldn't help but think of my family's most infamous surprise party. For my dad's 40th birthday, my mum planned a massive surprise party with people from our church, the neighbourhood and family. I am the oldest and at the time was the only one trusted to keep the secret. My younger siblings had no idea. To get us out of the house, my dad took us to a movie. Upon arriving home, my siblings were all whining and complaining, and my dad ended up yelling at us as we were walking into the house,
Starting point is 00:05:25 only to enter a living room packed with his closest friends and church community. He was pretty embarrassed. But the evening would have been salvaged if it hadn't been for my mum's choice of entertainment. My mum loves a theme, and so she got lots of Middle Eastern food and hired a belly dancer. Despite the fact that my mum told her to keep in mind that it was a fairly conservative bunch, including the pastor of our church and several church elders, the hired dancer took things a bit too far, dancing and shaking her. on my dad and even our pastor. It was somewhat mortifying at the time, but is also hilarious to
Starting point is 00:06:01 look back on, and we still tease my mum about the belly dancer incident to this day. Thanks for all the laughs and keeping us awake on our long drives. Happy we're keeping someone awake from Kelly A. Nice. And her husband, who remains unnamed. Love it, love it. Drive safe, Kelly and her husband. But yeah, yeah, love it. Love that story. I mean, Tim, you're the minister at your church. I reckon you'd love it. it if you went to a surprise party and some belly dancer started dancing and shaking her stuff in front of you? Well, it would be, it would be, I'd like to think that it was the kind of thing that you could, you could pivot to make hilarious for everyone. Like, can you believe this is
Starting point is 00:06:42 happening? We're suddenly stuck in, you know, the video clip to you two's mysterious ways. And it's all happening around about us. If it was someone that I knew, like, oh, here's Mrs So-and-so from the church who happens to have a little hobby as a belly dancer. Oh, no, that's different. That would be awful. That would be very scary indeed. It's not like nudity, though. It's just belly dancing.
Starting point is 00:07:07 It's just like cultural dancing. It's not like, you know. Yeah. It's not a stripper. No. No, no. I hope so. I got the impression from Kelly that it was like, you know, an above board belly dancer.
Starting point is 00:07:18 It was just a little bit, I don't know, risk-eigh. I don't know. Each to their own. Thank you for sharing, Kelly. Thanks to everyone else. We have appreciated all your feedback. Also an email I got on my birthday, actually, but I had missed it until recently, but I thought I'd share, mainly for the pictures. So go and have a look at the pictures that come with this, but it says, Dear Dr. Brady, I did my master's thesis in Bhutan. And of course, I brought some stuff to listen to.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Thought you might find these pictures fun from Noah in Sweden. And it's a bunch of pictures of like, His phone, listening to the Unmade podcast, obviously, so he's holding it in the foreground. But in the background, there's all sorts of amazing scenery. There's Mount Everest from a plane on that famous flight you do on Drucker. I've done the same thing in filmed Man Everest. It was amazing. The Tiger's Nest Monastery, which is an incredible monastery perched on the side of a cliff, and he's taking a picture of that, again, with the unmade podcast in the foreground.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Fantastic pictures of what I think is one of the best and most picturesque countries in all the world. If you ever have a chance to visit Bhutan, take the opportunity. It is amazing. And thank you, Noah, for sharing those pictures. Thank you, Noah. Do you like them, man? I have not seen them. I texted them to you before the show.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Oh, no, I've not seen them. I didn't see a text before the show. I was asleep. I was having a nap. Oh. Do you want me to have a look at them now? Yeah, go on. They're sitting right there on your phone.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Oh, there we go. Are you on schedule, man? Yes, I am. Here I am. Oh, yeah. Look at that. Nice. That is an impressive photo.
Starting point is 00:08:52 that one is less so uh oh yeah which one didn't you like oh no not that i didn't like it was just like a bit more not as spectacular as the beautiful one it was a bit more plain nature kind of one okay yeah fair enough fair enough then there's the one inside the plane you can kind of tell yeah that's mount everest that's mount everest under the wing wow wow oh that's incredible and i i is he holding like is that a blackberry it's like a blackberry with a screen no i don't think think so. I think that's a normal smart fine. It kind of looks like a look Blackberry-esque. But anyway, getting past the device, that is very spectacular.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And for those who really like their details and won't look at the pictures, he's listening to episode 162, Brad Pitt's girlfriends. If you like that kind of detail. If you can take a picture of yourself listening to the podcast with something amazing or interesting or funny in the background, send us a picture. And if it's good enough, we'll feature it here on the show. Good idea. Great idea. That flight into Bhutan where you go past Man Everest is brilliant. It's brilliant.
Starting point is 00:10:00 So I've told the story before, I think, I don't know, but I did it both ways. And you know what side of the plan you need to sit on to see Mount Everest, right? But they don't assign seats until you get to the airport. So you get there early. And I got there early for the flight into Bhutan. This is going from Kathmandu into Bhutan. And I said, I want to sit on the left on the way in, because that's where I knew I'd see Mount Everest. I got the seat because I was there early, but got clouded out and didn't get to see Mount Everest.
Starting point is 00:10:29 It's like, oh, what a shame. So on the way back, we were like, we're not going to the airport early again just to get the seat. It was too much of a faf. Let's just go at a normal time and, you know, miss out on seeing it. That's fine. Yeah. So we got there at a normal time.
Starting point is 00:10:43 We were near the nearer to the back of the queue. But then someone started coming up and down the queue from the airline saying, does anyone want to upgrade to business class? and I said, well, how much does that cost? And it was actually really cheap. It was like, I don't know. It was like, in the order of like $50 or $100, it seemed reasonable to me. It was only a short flight, of course, but it wasn't unreasonable.
Starting point is 00:11:04 And I said to the person, if I upgrade to business class, can I get a seat on the right-hand side of the plane, on the Mount Everest side? And they checked like the piece of paper. And they said, yeah, yeah, we've got one still free there. So I upgraded to business class, beautiful weather, magnificent views of Mount Everest. I've made a little video. You can still watch it online, looking at Mount Everest at the window of the plane. The pilot comes on the intercomas I'm filming,
Starting point is 00:11:26 saying, if you look out to your right, you can see Mount Everest and describes where it is, and it was pretty, totally worth the upgrade. To your right, it's Everest measuring 8,850 meters, 29,035 feet. The highest mountain, the perimeter,
Starting point is 00:11:41 the shape mountain, not much nor in the summit. Very close by to Everest, to its south is hotting, the hot-high-speed, 8,516, So they fly near it. So you can see it. They don't fly over it.
Starting point is 00:11:54 There's no reason to fly over it. They don't fly over it. I don't know how far away it was. I would guess 30 or 40 miles. You know, it's not like, it's not like, oh, wow, I feel like I could touch it. It is kind of in the distance. But quite near. Yeah, yeah, closer than you're going to see from any standpoint standing, obviously.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Oh, no, no. If you go to Mount Everest Space Camp, you're just a few miles from it. And you feel like you can touch it then. But yeah. No, but I mean, it's not, but it's up above you, you know what I mean? Like you're looking across at it. There's no, it's not like, um, Mount Rushmore where it's like, oh, you can go to this viewing site and look at Mount Rushmore.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Like you can't go to a viewing site and look across at Mount Everest, can you? No, I mean, when you're on Cala Patah, which is one of the best views of Mount Everest from base camp, you're at about five and a half thousand meters. So you're still about 3,000 meters lower than it. But you're far enough away that you're, you're, yes, yes. you are looking up at it. You are always looking up at Mount Everest. And you're right. In the plane, you feel like you're at the same height. And it's just a different angle. It's an interesting angle to see. And if you're familiar
Starting point is 00:12:59 with Man Everest and you know all the peaks around it, it's really fun to pick them all off. And, oh, look, there's that. And there's that. So if I'm going to look at Mount Everest and I had a choice between walking up to base camp or sitting in business class, I would probably sit in business class, I think. I think you would love to see Mount Everest and go to base camp, man. I think I probably would. I probably would. I think I probably would. I think I probably would too. Yes. The walk is amazing.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Like, you see so many other fantastic views and so many interesting villages and people and yaks and stuff. It's, uh, it is a fabulous experience. I don't know if my knees could take it anymore coming down. I could, I think I could get there again, no problems. But just walking down mountains now just kills my knees. And coming back from base camp is days and days of just constant walking down rocks. I don't, I don't know. It would be, it could.
Starting point is 00:13:48 be a problem. Do you know who the first person was in history to see the top of Mount Everest from business class? I don't know. I don't know. He was obviously a very brave person. Incredible. And he was asked, why did you do it? And he said, because it was there. Because it was only $100. Because they had champagne before takeoff. Yeah. Do you think they still have, you know how they have like, what's his name, the guy that, it's the Edmund Hillary's like pickax and stuff? Do you think they have that person's like champagne flute, just like at a cabinet somewhere for people to like go and visit? I tell you though, man, like once you see Mount Everest from business class, you know, that's nice, but the dangerous
Starting point is 00:14:34 part is always coming down. You've got to, you've still got to land the plane. That's true. Quick mention of the glacial podcast, our one word a week. podcast. Which you are, you are unbelievable the way, this is a, this is like climbing Mount Everest doing this podcast. This is my Everest. And man, we have reached episode 52. We have reached a year of glacial podcast, 52 words.
Starting point is 00:15:04 No way. Yes. And to celebrate, I've released a special commemorative episode in which you can recap the whole previous 52 words. So if you haven't been following one word a week, week by week, and you've kind of, you want to jump in now and sort of get on board a year in, you can listen to this recap and find out what's come before. Like as in, you can hear all the words in a row. Is that right? Yes. Yes. Wow. Yes. Yes. Special. Special. Massive. Yeah. That is like, that is, that is the podcast equivalent of
Starting point is 00:15:36 seeing Mount Everest from business class. Just being able to listen to them all at once. Yeah. It's amazing. Why do you listen to the Glacial podcast? Because it's there. Because it's there. And there's much, much more to come, years more to come if I don't lose interest. You are such a completest. I can't really, you'll be 20, 30 years from now, you'll be releasing that thing. I'm unwilling to stop. I'm unwilling to stop. Yeah, I would not admit failure.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Ideas for a podcast. Tim, you've asked to go first. Yes. You've got something you're moderately excited. I am. I am pretty excited about. I am excited about this idea. I kind of had to work it through and think about it a little bit, but I've come up with an idea. And my idea is solving a problem that I think exists in society today. And that is that because of the way social media has permeated our lives, one of the downsides, or one of the many downsides, but one of the downsides
Starting point is 00:16:40 is that it's kind of spoiled big reunions. So that whole novelty of, I've got my high school reunion, I haven't seen these people for 20 years, what do they look like, what are they doing, who are they and all that? Of course, that sort of information is much, much more easily available. And we may even be up to date before we go along.
Starting point is 00:16:59 So it's kind of spoiled one of the really quirky, interesting things about a reunion. And those big reunions, you know, premiership reunion with a footy team that you won a grand final. with or a big major championship. Yeah. High school reunion.
Starting point is 00:17:15 You know, but all those people do like the big trip reunion. We all went around Europe, you know, 20 years ago now we're catching up again. You know, all that stuff. Those big family reunions as well, the cousins all get together. Everyone's kind of in touch a lot more. I feel like they are. So I wonder if reunions have lost their sort of, you know, pizzazz. And so I've come up with a different concept to sort of.
Starting point is 00:17:40 of give them a new lease of life. And this podcast is about those kinds of reunions. And this podcast is called Pointless Reunions. Right. So pointless reunions are reunions with people that you didn't expect to ever be reunited with, right? Okay. Yep. And you have no reason to reunite with them again, right? Yep. But you do. Okay. So this is, I'm thinking about, like, an example of a pointless reunion would be, you know, someone that you once sat next to and got into a conversation with, you know, on a flight somewhere.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Yeah. And you say goodbye and you never expect to see them again. But, but 10 years later, you know, you happen to be put together again and you take another flight somewhere and you think about how your life's changed in 10 years, right? I don't know, man. I'm struggling to think of a pointless reunion because I'm so into like all the trivia and minutiae of life that almost any reunion idea excites me. Yeah, right. Yeah, well, that's what I see. I think there's something in this.
Starting point is 00:18:51 This is like, okay, the guy that was so good who sold me those jeans, you know, at Levi's last year. I want to go back and not just see that guy again, because that's like handy, but like 20 years from now, that guy, Remember that day? Do you remember that pair of jeans? You know what I mean? Like, how awful would that be? I'm thinking of thousands already, thousands of reunions. I'd love to do like that. That's brilliant.
Starting point is 00:19:17 I remember when I went on my first big holiday to Europe, like Kintiki tour with my mate Lee. And, you know, we were going to have, I mean, I'd love to be reunited with that Kintiki tour. That would be amazing. But the sort of 18 to 35 bus tour. But I remember when we flew to London, we ended up being seated next to this like young, attractive woman who was like a doctor. And it was just my mate Lee, who always has good luck
Starting point is 00:19:43 with girls, got sat next to her. I couldn't believe it. You never get sat next to a beautiful, glamorous woman on the plane, but he did. And she was a doctor. And I think her name was Karen, and we called her Dr. Kaz. And we spent the whole flight to London just talking to her. And at the end, we took all pictures with her and she signed autographs for us and everything. I'd love to be reunited with Dr. Kaz and see what she did later in life. Another person I thought about is someone that we met on that famous weekend when we went camping, and we went and crashed that person's party from that girl that I was maybe going to date from, you know, Westfield Shopping Center. And she was hosting a party and we went and visited it.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And then that legendary guy who talked about, hey, you think this party's great. You should see my parties. And he became elevated through the evening to become party man. Yeah. He's talked about how good he's parties. And that's another person who we asked to autograph something party man. And when we left, look, I got Party Man's autograph. I got Party Man's autograph.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Party Man, because it becomes his character in our lives, yeah. Well, I got his autograph. You were too busy kissing the girl in a hidden room. Nah, let's, let's, let's go. That's all, it's all in the book. It's all in the book. It's all in the book. Buy the book if you want to read it.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I love her. I love her. And obviously, obviously, like, the best way to do it would be to bring people on and then surprise them with who they're going to be reunited with. Yes. And they've just got no idea. Like, Tim, guess who I've got today and you're just sitting there. And then the camera pans left and do you know who this is?
Starting point is 00:21:16 And like, sometimes it would be funny if you didn't even know. Sometimes it'd be like, oh my God, I can't believe who that is. Other times you know. Yes, yes, that's right. Who is that? And then I'd say, this is the guy that, you know, sold you the Levi's 20 years ago that you'd love them. That's right. He's like, I'm so grateful to that guy.
Starting point is 00:21:33 But I never thought I'd see him again. Imagine if you could get Charlie Carboney that sold me my first car. Charlie Carboney, you get out of town. He sold me my Holden Barina for whatever I bought it for, you know, in the thousands. And then just as I was about to drive away, he winked and said, here's a little something special for you. And he gave me like a bucket and a car washing kit, like a sponge and a, like as a freebie. And I was like, oh, that's really kind. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:21:57 A free car washing kit worth like $2. Legend, legend. I can't believe you remember. Look, I remember the name Charlie Carboney. I can't believe you remember the name Charlie Carboney. Well, I was going to bought the car. Why would you remember it and not me? Because the name is always stuck in my mind.
Starting point is 00:22:13 And because Clarege Motors, where you bought it, is just down the road, just down here. So I drive past it all the time. And I've literally told my kids, that's where Brady bought his car. But it's now Mercedes-Benz, like totally different dealership. Yeah. And I said, yeah, there was a guy there called Charlie Carboni that sold him that car. I mean, every time we drive out your side of town with Kylie, I pointed out as again. Again, that's where I bought my first car.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Well, look, look, can I, can I just say at this particular point, I do actually have a guest for you. We have right now, you got a guest, yeah. A guest in the Unmade Podcast Studio, who I'd like to introduce, and you've got to see from where you know him. In the studio there? In the studio, in the studio, let me go get this guest. Have I just been sitting there? Tim's left the, Tim's bringing someone to the microphone.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I'm a little bit nervous. He's dragging a seat across. Man. Um, it is. I can see their shoulder. Charlie Carboney. Bingo. From Clarege Motors.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Woo! Hello, Brady. How are you, mate? You got Charlie Carboney. Hey, that car wash kit was all of $10, bud. I need to tell you that. And they came out of my car. What were the odds that I mentioned Charlie?
Starting point is 00:23:33 I can't believe you mentioned Charlie Carbone. Look at this legend. Look at him. I can't believe it. Charlie, you haven't aged a day. Thank you. I'm 71. I am 71.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Yeah. Olive oil, mate. Olive oil. Olive oil, of course. Yeah, it's a trick. I can't believe it. That's 30 years ago. Oh, Charlie.
Starting point is 00:23:54 And I was behind you getting your first beat beat Burina. Here comes. Hold on Barina. Beepi-Bearina, get you anywhere you want to go. It's a car that will go, go, go. Can I show you a brochure? Oh, my God, you've got a barina brochure. And it's for you.
Starting point is 00:24:10 If you ever come to Australia, I'm going to leave it with Tim. That's amazing. I've got a collection of brochures. Did you give me a good price, or did you rip me off? I can't remember what I paid for it. Actually, you know, those cars were only $13,9.90, and I think you only paid around $8,000 for it. It was a low kilometre, great little car. They used hardly any fuel
Starting point is 00:24:32 I'll turn on my salesman bit I reckon you did me over No I don't think so I can't believe it What are you doing now? I'm retired I'd spent 20 years in the building industry I don't like to brag
Starting point is 00:24:45 But I was quite successful Yeah I used the teachings of car salesmanship As such To learn about customer focus And customer follow up I bet you got a follow up letter from me thanking you for allowing me to be of service to you.
Starting point is 00:25:02 I'm sure I did. Yes, you did. Everyone got one and I followed people up. So, yeah, and you were a journalist. I didn't know what journalists did back then other than sit down and write papers, and you were a cadet, and you were quite bright. I was just a young, and surely you don't remember.
Starting point is 00:25:21 I remember a lot of things, yeah. I've actually surprised him. He did. He did. When I got in contact with Charlie, which took months, right, to try and track him down. Because he's retired and he's not even been in the car sales game. I've been out of car sales.
Starting point is 00:25:33 That dealership's been gone for years. It took a long time to track him down. But when I did, I said, look, I explained the show and what I'd like to do and to bring him on. And he goes, who'd just say Brady? And I said, Brady Harron. He was a journalist. And he goes, yes, yes, sold him a barina. Can I tell you something about that barina, child?
Starting point is 00:25:49 Please, please, please. There was one thing that was, I didn't think it was unusual, right? But this was a thing about that barina. It only had a rearview mirror on one side. It only had a rearview mirror on the driver's side and not the passenger side. And because it was my first car, I thought, this probably isn't that unusual. I don't know. That's just the way it is.
Starting point is 00:26:10 But it was the way it was made. And I, since moving to the UK, I was talking to my wife about it. And I was saying, I used to have this car and I only had a rearview mirror on one side. And she refused to believe it. And it became a real point of contention between us. and she thought it obviously had broken or I'd been ripped off or something had gone wrong. And she refused to believe the car was manufactured that way. And I spent weeks and weeks of my life searching photos of Holden Burinas on the internet
Starting point is 00:26:38 when the internet wasn't quite as everywhere as it is now until I finally found a few pictures of Holden Burinas with one rearview mirror. And you've got it there on the brochure I can see. There you go. Yep, there's the one mirror. Yeah, one mirror was all the Australian design rules required. acquired at that time. There you go.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I was telling the truth. The other thing is that the left mirror was an option, and I think it was about an $18 option, and if you wanted it painted, it was $20. So it made it all of nearly $40 plus fitting. So it was something we'd on sell. In fact, there's... You obviously couldn't sell it to me, Charlie. I was obviously too tight.
Starting point is 00:27:20 No, no, I didn't even try. I hated selling on selling stuff. It just... Yeah, it was something. See, I started as a motor mechanic at Claridge's, so I did my apprenticeship, you know, sweeping floors, became a grease monkey, did the whole thing. They thought it was bright enough to go into car sales, and they gave me a shot. Let me, let me bring up a memory that I, I don't know if I've ever brought up this memory to Tim, but I'm going to spring it on him now in front of Charlie. I remember when I bought that barina, which was, you know, my pride and joy, saying, at one point saying to Tim, oh, what do you think of my car?
Starting point is 00:27:55 and him saying, to be honest, I thought you'd buy a cooler car for your first car. And I remember, like, being slightly deflated. Well, I'm going to sound sexist. But, um, Burina, we saw more barina to young girls and we did to young blokes. Young blokes would always want something a little hotter. Yeah. Like a Gemini that they could put, you know, wheels and things on and, you know, that sort of thing and exhaust tips and wider wheels.
Starting point is 00:28:23 But, uh, it was always girls. They wanted red or blue or we couldn't sell white. White was Granny's cars. And I bought a white one. Nice. Thanks. My granny car. No, that's fair.
Starting point is 00:28:36 That's fair enough. That's fair enough. Tim, you tried to guide him, didn't you? I did. I did try to guide him. But it became quite, quite legendary, not as massively legendary as my Renault. But it had a name, Barry, Barry the Barina. Beep, beep, Barina.
Starting point is 00:28:52 The other thing I remember about that car, I remember lots of things about that car, but one of the other things I remember is I was so protective of it because I was so proud of it. The day I got, I went to the RAA and bought like a steering wheel lock and I put it on the car in the carport that night. And then when I went to get it off, I couldn't get it off. It was faulty and it wouldn't unlock with the key. And the RIA had to come out and angle grind it off to get it off my car. And I went in to the RAA head office in Adelaide City Center the next day. absolutely furious and demanding like another one, which they gave me, but I also wanted my money
Starting point is 00:29:31 back. I felt like you should be giving me my only back for that and giving me another one because of all that. I was late to a thing I had to go to because of it and that. And they wouldn't do it. They just wouldn't do it. And I wouldn't leave until they did it. And there was this massive standoff. And in the end, I ended up in like the boss of the RAA's office. And he was just like, fine, you can have your money back and have your have your steering wall lock. I felt really, really, really pleased with myself. I'm fantastic. Can I ask this of Tim and Charlie? Sure.
Starting point is 00:29:58 When Tim pitched that idea of all the random stuff in life that we could have thought of, I promise I didn't know Charlie was in the other room. And I said Charlie Carboni, what were you both thinking when I said that? You must have felt like geniuses. Yes. This guy's a genius. I just, I said, what did I do that impressed you guys so much? That you remember, is it my name?
Starting point is 00:30:20 Possibly. It's a memorable name. And you were that kind of like, like really sort of polished and like you were like a car salesman. You were a salesman, but like a lovable salesman. Oh, thank you. You were like a lovely, not like a sleazy salesman. You were just like I said, like I said, the little wink when you gave me the bucket
Starting point is 00:30:43 like you were doing me the world's biggest favor. I was just still remember it. Hey, you kept the car clean, didn't you? I did. I did. I did, yeah. Except for the boot, which I always. had his really sweaty, smelly cricket stuff in there.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I was always so disgusted by the smell of that boot. But I never buy one of those pre, you know, you can buy those buckets to wash your car with a pre, with a sponge and with all the stuff. And it's all like sold as a kit. I never buy one of those kits without thinking of you, Charlie. Oh, thank you. How many kits have you bought? I should get a commission for that.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I probably bought 10 or so over the years. And every time I think of Charlie. But you never bought a second car from me? No, I didn't. I never, I didn't buy another car in Australia. That was the only car I ever owned in Australia. I left it with my, I left it with my dad, and he kept it for a while, and then he, he sold it on. As I said, that was your first.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Yeah, you never forget your first. How many, how many cars would you sell in a week, Charlie? What did your week look like as a car salesman? We had a goal back in the day. And we were a small yard. We used to carry maybe 60 cars. Generally, there were two salesmen. we were asked to try and sell 15 to 20 cars each a month.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Right. Now, some months, I mean, you know, winter was always slow. Summer was always good. Christmas was the peak. And January was the best month of the year, so you'd never take a break. But to answer your question, about 15 a month was the average sale. And did you have a, when, you know, you saw, you know, a sucker like Brady walking onto the car yard, would you, would you have a typical phrase that you'd use when you'd walk up?
Starting point is 00:32:19 No. Oh, I think I'm offloading the white barina today. No, not really. He comes a granny's boy. Look, you know, I'll use a couple. You know, there's a duck on the pond. Yeah. You know, there's a head out there, you know, another tire kicker.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Occasionally someone would come on and say, I'm looking for my daughter. I haven't seen anyone around here that looks like that. All right. You've got your jokes. I was willing to pay a premium for something I knew wouldn't break down the minute I drove it off the lot. Like, we went and looked at a few lots down, you know, on like main North Road and that. And I just felt like suspicious. I just felt like, if I buy one of these and it breaks down, they're going to cut me loose.
Starting point is 00:33:06 But I felt like with a name like Claridge's, which obviously in England, the name Clareges is associated with one of the poshous hotels in London and is very prestigious. I think Claridge has just had a little bit of prestige about it and a little bit of, like, trustworthiness. And I wasn't going to barter and, you know, make a big deal of it. If I, if a car wouldn't break down, I was willing to pay a premium. So, and you worked up through till, and then I think it's it. We said it was in 95, 96 that Brady bought the barina. I reckon it was 96. I mean, you would have made enough money off that deal to retire pretty much.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Well, pretty much. I wanted to retire the next day. And I thought, no, I better not. I better stick this out. Golden goose comes along like that only once in your life. Yeah, I was a white whale. The white whale, yeah. Brady the golden goose.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I'm sure Tim has asked you this already, but do you happen to know Carmen Scalzy? Charlie Scousey. Carmen Scalzy? Do you know the singer Carmen Scalzy at all? No, no, I know a Charlie Scousey. Carmen, in Italian, you have the name Carlo or the name Carmen, and it becomes Charlie. Okay. But I know a Carmen Scousey.
Starting point is 00:34:13 You know, the singer? He's a singer around town? I'm sorry, no. Oh, right around. He sang him. He sang a very famous theme song in Adelaide for the ad for the sofa shop. Do you remember the sofa shop theme? The sofa shop.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Yeah, yeah. That was on Anzac Highway, was it? That's right. But you remember the theme on TV. The sofa shop. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:34:31 You can sing it again, please. You're not paying me, so I'm not singing. Actually, when you guys were talking and I was in the green room with all the mineral water and the biscuits. Yep. I was enjoying a conversation. And when my name came up, I thought, is this a setup? How does this guy remember my name? What did I do?
Starting point is 00:34:55 No, in all seriousness, what did I do that impressed you? That you'd remember me 30 years later? I think what happened was, Tim and I, like, we love a good, like, in-joke and repeating a joke over and over again. And soon after I bought the car, we would make, you know, jokes about, oh, Charlie Carboni, the nice guy that sold you the car. Maybe because it's just a nice name to say. I don't know. It's just a fun name to say, but we made the joke few times, and it just then became a repetitive joke between us.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And so it just became something we would repeat over and over again. And it's just kind of stuck in the head. Like it was a really nice transaction and a good experience, but nothing particularly unusual happened except me telling, except me telling you weren't there, were you, Tim? You never met Charlie at the time. I did. No, I did. I came along to the day you picked up the car. Yeah, yeah. Jim dropped you off. And so I remember, and so I remember, I remember when you were dealing with Brady, like going to get the keys or something like that. I was just standing there watching as a friend. And as you kind of walked away, Brady sort of nodded and went, that's Charlie Carbone.
Starting point is 00:35:59 And it's stuck in my head ever since. So it's just a name that, it's just a name that stuck as a fond memory. But so when I, when I was thinking about like, you know, those one-off interactions that were kind of irrelevant, that was the one that came into my head. My name's quite famous. Actually, my name features in a movie called Kangaroo Jack. Oh, I remember that.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Really? The Australia, I've heard of that. Australian movie. No, it's an American movie. Yeah, I was really surprised. But I googled my name one night and up it came. They just chose that name. Yeah, they chose that name.
Starting point is 00:36:34 And I thought, wow, look at that. So, golly, Kangaroo Jack. Charlie, next time you Google your name, you're going to find a whole bunch of other stuff now. Yeah. I don't get in trouble. Legendary. I better leave town. Charlie Carboney.
Starting point is 00:36:47 was a protagonist in Kangaroo Jack, 2003 film. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, there you go. He was played by Jerry O'Connell, who's quite a famous actor. What's your greatest ever sale? What's your most memorable car sale? Because it was to someone famous, or it was an amazing car. Yeah, I've sold cars to a couple of actors.
Starting point is 00:37:07 The Carla Zamperty sold her. She wasn't an actor. She was a... Oh, the fashion designer. Yeah, she's a fashion designer. Yeah, she died recently, didn't she? Sold her a car. Can you name drop a couple of actors?
Starting point is 00:37:17 Do you remember their names? O'Brien. Peter O'Brien? Peter O'Brien. Oh, wow. Flying doctors pilot. And that was the girls absolutely drooled. I remember I dragged him.
Starting point is 00:37:30 If you remember, you bought the car over in the yard, and then I had to take you over to the finance office, and you'd have to meet the finance guy. When you did that, you used to go and drop paperwork into the office, where the girls did the registration checks and all the bits and pieces. and I said, hey, girls, I just sold a car to Mr. O'Brien. Next thing, bang.
Starting point is 00:37:55 They're all in the show waiting for him to come out. He was a good-looking dude. He's a good-looking dude. He's a bit craggly these days. Sorry, mate. Well, aren't we all except you, Charlie? Let me guess what Peter O'Brien bought, white barina? Actually, no, white corolla.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Corolla, but white. A white corolla. Let me ask you a random question then, Charlie. Sure. Obviously, you're a good car salesman and you went on to great success in building and, you know, you've lived a great life. What do you regret? I don't have regrets.
Starting point is 00:38:25 No regrets? Nothing you wish you did, a place you wish you saw, a thing you wish you did, a job you would love to have done. I do a lot of travelling. I do a lot of speaking. What made me whole is the last eight years of being in the Adelaide Christmas pageant. That's one of my, yeah, I do that every year. Have you got your eyes on the prize?
Starting point is 00:38:47 Do you want to be Santa one day? No, never. No. Big boots to feel. During COVID, we had the pageant at Adelaide Oval, which was fantastic. And I remember we got closer and closer to Santa to the point where Santa stopped. I looked up and I still believe in you, mate. And he just looked at me and blew me a kiss.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Santa blew me a kiss. I bet Santa said, yeah, it's Charlie Carbooney. You sold me a sleigh back in 78. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I was, look, Tim rang me. I was so impressed that you guys remembered me. And I thought, wow, you know, it's very random. I can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And what an honour that you came in, like on an evening into Malvin Uniting Church to record for us as well. And you quietly waited out the back while we waffled on doing our stuff. If I'd known you were there, I would have called you out straight away. I can't believe it. I'm still a little bit in shock, but there you go. What a magnificent surprise you two have thrown at me. It's 11 degrees pouring with rain. I know where you are, it's 29 degrees today.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Swelltering. We're in a heat wave over here. Sweltering, yeah, I can't get over it. You guys complain. I've been to London though in, well, it was 32 degrees the day we were in London, and it was hot. Actually, chewing gum was bubbling on the pavement, so I couldn't believe that. Charlie, next time you are in London, I insist you give me a call and let me take you.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I'll tell you where I'll take you. I will take you for high tea at Claridge's in the centre of London. I'll tell you what, and I'll pay for it. I will definitely not allow that, but I wouldn't mind another one of those buckets if you've got one handy. Is Charlie going to let me have that brochure? Yes, yes, yes, yes. It's actually an original.
Starting point is 00:40:32 It's got my name on the back of it. Charlie, I only want it, if you autograph the front of it for me as well. Pen or text a man. If you've got a Sharpie, has it got a glossy front there because we don't want it, you know, on that glossy front, we want it to... Charlie, tell me this while Tim sorts out a pen. Sure, please. What do you think of this podcast idea?
Starting point is 00:40:49 And who would you like to meet from your past? What random person from years ago would you love for Tim to pull out the green room on you? Sorry, he couldn't get this guy. I think it was 1987. Mick Jagger had broken up with the Rolling Stones. And he was over here in Adelaide on a concert tour at Thebedon... At Theberton Oval, my brother was working with a promoter. Anyway, long story short, went around to his tent in hope that we might meet him.
Starting point is 00:41:22 And guess what? I shook Mick Jagger's hand. That is amazing, but I don't think you've really captured the spirit of Tim. No, Tim's idea being kind of slightly... No, who I'd really like to meet? Who I'd really like to meet? The dentist that pulled out my teeth when I was 16 years old, he just opened up his dental shop on Henley Beach Road.
Starting point is 00:41:43 He was a Greek lad. And, yeah, he'd just come out of uni. His dad bought him a little shop on Henley Beach Road. And along I came, and I went in for a clean, and he ended up removing three teeth. Oh. And my dad went over, because in those days you could walk out. You didn't have to pay, relied on here's the bill, get your folks to come in. And my dad went over and said, why'd you pull my son's teeth out?
Starting point is 00:42:13 There's nothing wrong with them. Oh, we couldn't fill them. So he pulled out my teeth. That's who I'd like to meet and find out how many cars, how many children he has, how many Mercedes he's bought after pulling out three of my teeth, he's one guy I want to get even with. That's a bit more in the spirit, although that might be a bit of a hostile reunion by the sounds of it, not like the lovely one that you and I have had today.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Well, I also met a girl on a plane. You were talking about a girl on the plane. We hit it off. We got off at the airport. She walked one way and I walked another. Maybe that's a regret that you asked me have a regret. Maybe that's one of my regrets. There we go.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Another regret. There's always a gal, isn't that? Yeah, there's always a girl, a heartbreaker. No, that's all. I'd like to bump into that dentist and ask him again, why did you pull out my teeth? Was there a real reason? Or did you just a sadist, a massacre,
Starting point is 00:43:07 We'll get Tim on the case. It seems to be his new specialty now, finding these random people. It's chasing down people in car. In Charlie's life. All right. So I've got a dentist and Mick Jagger. I've written those down. I'm going to be on it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:20 All right. Look, I've had a great life. I can't complain. And I'm having a great life of a beautiful grandchildren with the possibility of another one coming up. So, yeah, life's good. You look great, mate. You look great.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Can you find a photo of you? back in 95 or 96 to send me so I can remember what you look like. I actually got one sitting in that office. All right. Yeah, I've got one. I'm happy to send it on. Thanks, mate. That'd be great.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I'd love to see that. I'd love to do that. Send that to me and Tim. I can't thank you enough for this. It's been a surprise. I could never have guessed when I woke up this morning. Thank you, Tim, for arranging it. But massive, thank you, Charlie, for coming in.
Starting point is 00:44:00 And being such a good sport, because I bet this sounded really weird. I bet this was a really weird request. And you're right. You probably thought it was some kind of stick. up or, yeah, but it wasn't. There's a Sharpie. Sign that brochure. Sign it nice and slow because it's a bit, because the textural work better, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:15 That's actually a contract. You've just bought a car off, Tim. That's funny. No, thank you. Thank you for you, including me. And it sounds like you've got a great successful podcast going, and it's hard to break into podcasts. So I'm glad. I hope it gave you a few memories and a few laughs.
Starting point is 00:44:36 It was fantastic. It was fantastic. Charlie Carboney. Legend. I can't believe it. Man, what a coup. It took months to find him. I had to track him down.
Starting point is 00:44:54 It was because not only is he retired and he's been out of the industry, but also the car yard where he worked is out of the industry, closed down. You know what I mean? Man. And of a generation, they're not necessarily on social media. So I'm very happy. Yeah. That is impressive.
Starting point is 00:45:08 As someone who has a track. history of tracking down hard to find random people, even I am impressed by the fact you pulled that off, man. You must have, when I then brought him up, you must have been thinking, I'm the king. I'm the king of podcasts. Totally, totally. I was like, what a dream. It never occurred to me that you might suggest him, and he was going to be my next suggestion, and then I was going to pretend, okay, well, let's move on. Oh, hang on a sec. No, I've got someone here. But then you said him, yeah. The only way you could have played that better in hindsight, is if when I brought up Charlie Carboney,
Starting point is 00:45:41 you pretended to forget him and said, Charlie, who was that? And then I would have been, you remember, man, the car, and I would have been, like, telling you. And you could have been going, oh, I know, you remember, but yeah, I don't know, it rings.
Starting point is 00:45:51 And you could have like, because then when you pulled Charlie Carbone on me, then it would have been a total, total bait switch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. I could have done that, yeah. Let me say this about your idea for a podcast. Yeah. I am worried people are going to find that really boring to listen to. Because it's awesome for you.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Yeah, because it's just me talking to the guy that sold me my first car and then talking about a bunch of Adelaide minutia like Harrah scarf and the Christmas pageant and, you know, like I think this is a fantastic idea and for the person experiencing it, in this case me, and to a lesser extent you, what a memorable, awesome thing to do. But the people listening are going to have to tell us.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Was that like, did it work? Yeah, did it work? Did it go well? It could work better. if the people knew both sides of the reunion and the significance. But that kind of goes against the idea of it being pointless. Yeah, exactly. That takes away that.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Like, if you know, if you reunited me with someone who was really truly significant, like a relative or even maybe a school teacher or something like that, it'd be like, oh, yeah, no, it's okay. But the fact that you got the guy that sold me in my first car, like, that's pretty random. All right, we won't use it. Don't put it in the show. Don't what we'll do it.
Starting point is 00:47:07 I'll come up with something else. Let me think of something else. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. I thought of a better idea. Amazing reunions where there's really significant people that get back together. I mean, the amazing coincidence is I've got a little someone waiting in the green room for you, man.
Starting point is 00:47:20 You know how you've always wanted to have Bono on the podcast? Come on in, Paul. All that time. Listening to this reunion. He's had an earbuddy and listening to him. You and me talk to Charlie Carbony for an hour. Now Bono walks in. It's all right.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Then you'd be going, you walk in and you just go, I'm sorry, we just don't have time for you. Sorry, Bono. No, the best thing would be is if I sat Bono down here and then you said you're not going to believe this, Bono, but I've got the guy that sold you your first car sitting in my green room. No matter who sits in this chair, Tim's got the person that sold them their first car out the back. I'm best to find it. Oh, that's great. Ninety-2 Cortina.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Here he is. Let me ask for this. Before you came down to the office tonight and you were telling your wife about what was about to happen, what were her thoughts on the whole? No, I've been telling the family, friends, workmates for days going, I've got this awesome thing planned. I've been so excited about it. And yeah, so everyone goes, oh, that's great. And so I've been saying the name, Chad, Charlie Carbony, more times in the last fortnight than I think anyone's ever said it in history. What an absolute legend. I loved that. And he was everything I dreamed he would be. Yeah, yeah. He's such a Charlie Carbone, isn't he? So awesome. Well, I think we should, I had an idea I was going to run by you, and I know you had a spoon, but I just feel like anything now will just be like deflating. I think we should save, I think we should save. It would be deflating for us and interesting for everyone else. So that would spoil the episode.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Also, my idea for today was really quite parochial South Australian. Like, I have, like, adjusted it for, like, an international audience, which is something, you know, not one of your greatest strengths. But, yeah, I just feel like I'm on too much of a high man. Well done, man. Well done. A great pleasure. Here comes Holden Verena.
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