The Unmade Podcast - 184: Grey Thunder

Episode Date: August 11, 2026

Tim and Brady discuss the Carbone Afterglow, sleep, MRI scans, beaches, cake forks, and taking Unmade on the road?Catch the bonus Request Room episode - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM/posts/166365400Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFMJoin the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/Unmade_Podcast/Catch the podcast on YouTube where we often include accompanying videos and pictures - https://youtu.be/YNakbsEhgvcUSEFUL LINKSThe Big Charlie reveal on video from the last episode (Patreon special) - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM/posts/video-of-big-in-165272118Carbone Merch - https://the-unmade-podcast.creator-spring.com/listing/barina-sold-by-carbonePictures of Spoon of the Week - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-weekBlack Thunders - https://shorturl.at/eol6GSAFM - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAFM_(Adelaide)Pink - https://www.pinkspage.com/Catch the bonus Request Room episode - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM/posts/166365400

You join in at five, man. I'll count up to ten of you, you join in at five. Yep. One, two, three, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. I thought you were going to join in at five, but hey, it's all good. Oh, sorry, I went to five and then cut out. We haven't done it for a while. I don't blame you.

I don't have to count in my everyday job, so I lose track of numbers. How are you doing, man? Are you still glowing after your? of triumph last episode with the Charlie Carboney surprise. Yes. Yes. It's been, it is, it's wonderful. I've finally had a good idea.

And it worked. I'm very satisfied, yes. You did well, and you also got very lucky. Got very lucky that you mentioned it. Well, I think so too, but on reflection, I think, of course Brady was going to mention Charlie Carbone, because even though he was totally obscure and we haven't seen him for 30 years, and I only met him once. He's an obvious person for this idea.

So, of course, you were going to mention him. I'm going to read you just a fraction of the comments we've been receiving about your triumph, man. And I'm probably going to have to edit these later because even this fraction is too many. I'm going to remember this episode into my old age. Kudos to Tim for the amazing effort. Top-tier highlight of the entire podcast. Incredible, legendary performance by Tim. Maybe my favorite episode of any podcast.

Hall of Fame episode. Gosh. This is the greatest moment of podcasting I've ever heard, bar none. Tim Hine is the king of podcasts and Charlie is a legend. Incredible. There needs to be a commemorative spoon. Gold star for Tim, epic fun. I was smiling ear to ear the entire time.

This could not have been a more perfect reveal. Tim managed to hold his tongue until the exact right moment. This is one of the best moments of the podcast. Good on you, Tim. This is exactly the wholesome, surprising fun That has made Unmade my favourite podcast. That and Moon of the Week, of course. No offence, Tim.

Big props to Tim when Brady brought Carboni up himself. Tim played it so cool and gave nothing away. He handled that perfectly. Tim pulled a Brady with this one. Fantastic going above and beyond the podcast. Played out brilliantly. For all the jokes about how Tim has or hasn't prepared his podcast ideas in the past. This one completely wipes the slate clean. Wow. Well, that's, that's, that's, that's very

flattering. Where, where, where's all that? Are they emails or is that all on Reddit? My goodness me. A couple of them came from your mum, but no, do you know, do you know what this makes me feel like? Mm-hmm. You know how in parenting, and it's usually the mum who feels this role, for some reason, well, for probably quite sexist reasons, but the mothers do like all the hard work, all the planning, all the preparation, 95% of all the effort and work. And then one day dad swans in and says, I'll take it today and takes the kids to like the fun fair for two hours. And everyone's like, oh, what a dad.

He's the dad of the century. What a super dad. Yes. And the mum gets nothing for that 95%. That's right. That's right. That's me. That's me.

Well, you are the mum of the podcast. That's true. And I do feel like, yes, this moment may have balanced the score. scales from eight years of editing and I get all the glory from one moment. You've swaned in and just taken the kids to Magic Mountain and now you're a hero. Look, I couldn't have done it without Charlie, who got right into the spirit of it and was willing to come on, eager. Some would say maybe a little bit too eager to come on. Be a big part of the glory and the commemoration of this one sale that he made back in 1995 when he

finally got rid of that wipe arena. spoken to him since? Have you sent him in the episode? Have you heard anything from him? We had a little bit of liaison about grabbing a photo and him asking, you know, when's it going to be on and all the rest of it? And I said, oh, look, that's up to Brady and when he gets it edited and stuff. But apart from that, then I sent him the episode when it was done. We haven't spoken again. I feel like it's time to put it to bed for another 30 years and revisit it and have another reunion episode like with a reunion in 30 years time. Well, man, look who I've got sitting here coming through the door right now.

Come on here, Charlie, he's float over. He's on a tour. He's turned it into a world tour. He's playing London in the West End. Come and meet Charlie. Q&A with Charlie Knight. Selling t-shirts, the whole works. We have had some questions about the behind-the-scenes side of it in the request

room. So I'm going to save them for today's request room where patrons can come and have a listen. So go to patreon.com slash Unmade FM. and Tim will answer some of the extra questions you guys have posed. How we did it. What was going on behind the scenes? What are the secrets? What the full story before we make our obvious documentary that's going to come in the next five or six years.

Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah. My favourite moment with Charlie this week, though, was not when he sent me a photo that we'd requested of him back in the old days, right? But actually the follow-up message, which came afterwards, which sent delivering a new VP Commodore. Like, he felt the need to clarify the model of the car.

Such a car man. It's a picture of him from the 90s, and he's like shaking hands, handing over a car. But then he wanted us to have the full details. So, yeah, nice work, Charlie. A little bit of follow-up from the previous episode, as if anything else happened in the previous episode. Quite a lot happened in the previous episode.

And I tell you, one of the things I was most proud of is I just let that stuff go along. You know, like we had a lot of, You know, some parish news and some all that stuff. Oh, we'll come to that, man. That's part of the request room stuff we're going to talk about. There have been questions about that, man. So keep your powder dry.

All right, all right. Keep your powder dry. That's RR rated content, is it, man. Request room rated content. That's right. Double R rated. I like it. Nice one.

Man, look at you. You're on fire. I'm even naming things, man. I'm like a whole new girl. Can't believe it. What have you done with Tim? 50 and it's just like, here we go. This is amazing. There's a really good book I love called The Humans where an alien kills and takes the body of an important scientist, a mathematician.

It's a really cool book. It's not as macabre as it sounds. And then he has to like wander around on earth for a few weeks doing this mission inside the body of this other person. I feel like maybe that's happened to you. Some alien from like planet Good Idea has like killed Tim and taken over your body and how did you know that Tim was possessed? Well, suddenly he was having all these good ideas on the unmade podcast that alerted the authorities. Hang on a second, what's going on here? Incredibly suspicious. Okay. Oh, we talked about sleep. Hang on. Can I throw in a mini idea right now based on what happened last week. Go. In the last episode, after you had had your pre-show nap, you told me that you have these 24 minute naps.

I don't know if it was the right number or not, but you told me 24 minutes was like this scientific number of how long one should have a nap for. And you listen to albums and stuff like that. And then we also talked about how a lot of people sleep while listening to the Unmade podcast. And that has given me the idea. Why don't we make a series of little 24 minute episodes

where we talk about really, really boring stuff? Like you just let me off the leash talking about moons for 24 minutes. And you can talk about, I don't know, all the stuff you do, which is all pretty boring for 24 minutes. And we make these available to people as like little sleep aids, these little 24 nuggets of boredom. But then right at the end, we like wake them up. Gong, a gong or something. Yeah, yeah.

Wow. Nice, yeah. We could call it sleeping with Tim and Brady. That's true. That's a good name. That name's not taken at all, so it's definitely available online. Yeah, just these little, just these droning, boring discussions between us. We'd have to obviously restrain how entertaining we are

because we're obviously, normally we are so charming and entertaining. Yeah. We could dial that down. No, that would be the hard part. But I do wonder if it works to be woken suddenly at 24 minutes. Like, I wonder if there's something whereby you have to, you know, it's the perfect time to naturally wake up or is 24 minutes a sharp, awake caused by an alarm.

You know what I mean? Does that break the spell or something like that? Well, I mean, we could put the onus on the person themselves to set a separate alarm to coincide with the end of the podcast and we'll just deliver the 24 minutes. Right. Like if we went longer and then they missed an appointment or something, we wouldn't be held responsible, like liable or something. No.

Yeah. Yeah. What we could also do is as the podcast progresses, as the episode progresses, and people are hopefully asleep, we could start saying some really weird crap to, like, really infiltrate their dreams. Like, oh, my God, has that cloud just turned into a fairy floss machine? And, you know, what's my long, dead great-grandfather doing here? This is bizarre or things like that.

Like, we could just get a bit freaky. Is that what lucid dreams are? Lucid dreams. Aren't you awake in lucid dreams? I don't know what a lucid dream is. Like a half-awake cover. No. I was, I heard someone mentioning them this week.

and I went away thinking, I wonder what technically a lucid dream is. Man, you've got people shouting at the podcast now. So I've got to look up what a lucid dream is. A lucid dream is a dream in which you become aware that you are dreaming while the dream is still happening. Oh, right. I didn't realize that's what a lucid dream was. I have these all the time about plane crashes where I see a plane crash and I'm running towards the scene of the crash. And then, and I'm thinking, oh my goodness, I've dreamt,

this so many times, but now it's actually happening. That's crazy. I can't believe it's happening for real after all these dreams. Yeah. And then suddenly I'm like, oh, hang on a second. No, hang on. This is a dream as well. Yeah. Yeah, it's another one. It's another dream. All right. Guess I better wake up then. One of the most defining times this happened to me was when I was a child and it was so vivid that I still remember the dream. Remember, it was a dream where I was in my street, where I lived in Teralgan and I can still picture it now and I can picture... I'm giving you another 30 seconds man before I pull the plug on you telling me the story of a dream.

Oh, come on, but it's a lucid dream. It's like a dream. That's all there is to it. I just, what, my point is this. It's so strong and startling and vivid that I can still remember it now. It's like I can picture the dream now like it's a memory and it's not a memory. It's, you know what I mean? It's great, man.

Well, I'm happy. I'm really happy for you. Oh, gosh. At least planes crashed your mind. You were just standing up. a street. See, this can all be content for our boring talk. We can talk about dreams we've had. That will put people to sleep. Yes, good. Good one man. I'll tell you what, when we make our second episode of sleeping with Tim and Brady, because the first episode is going to be all about moons,

the second episode can be all about that dream you had where you were standing in the street where you grew up and you can really stretch it out. That works on so many levels. We're putting people to sleep talking about our dreams. Oh, that's great. I love that. That really works. Well, anyway, speaking of which, we heard from Nate. And Nate already uses us for a sleep podcast in a very specific way. This is what Nate said. Right. On days where I want to take a regulated nap, probably two to three times per week, I set my timer for 33 minutes. And I start one of two unmade podcasts from specific start points that I've bookmarked in my podcast player. My main one is episode 121 other people's shopping lists.

I started at the 1044 mark, and by the time Tim says that Michael Tunn was the first person I ever saw wear a hyper-colour t-shirt on TV at 13 minutes 10, I'm drifting off. Sometimes I make it to the point where Brady tease up the actual shopping list topic, but not usually. The secondary episode is episode 97, the investment. of Dr Brady-Harran. I start this one at 14 minutes 15, where Tim tease up the story by asking Brady about it. So I think you guys can feel good about the fact that I don't use your current shows to fall asleep to,

just the old chestnut stories that I've chosen to fall asleep to over and over again as a bit of comfort food background noise to drown out the daytime sounds during nap time. That's very specific. That's very specific. I love it. Wow. I wonder if Michael Tunn knows. that his hyper-coloured t-shirt is still helping the world now get to sleep.

Golly God. And then he went on to triple J. He's only like two years older than us. He was the first person I saw wear a hyper-colour t-shirt on TV. But he... I wonder if he has like dreams about my investiture. Like he's there in the castle. And like there were swords and all sorts of stuff as well.

Like I wonder if it's like permeate. his subconscious. Amazing. Amazing. Did you pinch yourself in that moment? Did you think, am I dreaming? Am I standing here with King Charles? Or Prince Charles, I think he still was.

Was that right, man? He was still just Prince Charles. I didn't think I was dreaming. The actual moment when I stood in front of him was very surreal. Yeah. Like I think I said, his face looked really rubbery and unrealistic. He looked like one of those rubber masks they make when they make comedy shows about Prince Charles.

Like, you know, he actually looked like that. Yeah. It was bizarre. He looked more like exaggerated than normal Charles as I thought Charles would look. He looked really like a caricature. Well, maybe for security reasons. He is just one of the security staff in a Prince Charles mask. Quite possibly, quite possibly.

I also sort of on a similar subject, but also we talked about where people listen to the podcast. You know, after the guys sent the picture of him listening near Mount Everest. And Peace Tank 22 got in touch saying, you won't believe what just happened. I arrived at the hospital for my first ever MRI, feeling absolutely defeated. I'd spent the last few days catastrophizing about having to stay motionless inside a metal tube for 90 minutes. Yeah. The eerie silence, the claustrophobia, the strict prohibition against fidgeting. I was certain that I was doomed to fail at trying to do absolutely nothing.

Imagine the immense relief I felt when the technician mentioned they could play Spotify through MRI safe headphones. Then came an even better thought. If Spotify works, could the Unmade podcast accompany me during my scan? To my absolute delight, it also seemed that the podcasting deities had answered my prayer. I was ecstatic to see a brand new episode on Unmade's Spotify feed, which had literally only dropped 30 minutes before my MRI. I giddily loaded it up on the technician's Spotify feed. I giddily loaded it up on the technician's phone,

grateful that the years of tithing through Patreon had finally paid off. It was a great day to be an unmade stakeholder. So here is my review of listening to episode 183 in the MRI. The first 15 minutes or so were excellent. Chef's Kiss. He's obviously missed Charlie because he's fallen asleep then. I'm sure the remaining 40 minutes were equally brilliant, but I can't be sure because I was completely asleep by then.

Oh, wow. Listen to this now famous episode, the greatest episode in the history of podcasting, while in an MRI and he's missed the good bit. He says he woke up five minutes before the scan ended to the sofa shop theme being played on a microwave from an older unmade episode, surely the most dignified possible soundtrack for regaining consciousness inside the coffin-like MRI machine. So thank you for getting me through my first scan and for also curing my decade-long battle with insomnia by apparently Pavlovian. conditioning me to fall asleep whenever I hear two dudes speak in melodic Australian accents. Melodic Australian accents. That's us.

Have you had an MRI scan before, man? No, I've had CT, but never an MRI that I can recall. It is a bit disconcerning finishing that and hearing a microwave at the end of it. You'll think, oh, hang on a second. What have they put me in here? Ding, he's done, bring him out. Oh, delicious. Maybe it's fortuitous that he, because you know how you have to lay perfectly still,

so perhaps he would have got to the Charlie Carbone reveal moment and just absolutely freaked out and like sat up in it. They're like, no, what are you doing? Lay down again. We're going to have to clarify here. Isn't it Carboney? Do you say Carboney? Carboney, sorry.

I say, I just say Carbone for short because I'm Australian. You know, we abbreviate it. Okay, yeah. Yeah, only his really close friends call him Carbone. People he sells cars too, have to call him Carboni. Carbone. That's right. Shall we do ideas for a podcast?

Who have you got sitting in the room today, man? Well, I just, yeah, hang on a sec. Hang on, I just, I won't long. No, Amanda, you go first. No, no, just a moment, just a moment. Oh, look, I, I've got some sort of, I have some geography-based podcast idea talk, which sort of segues nicely into Spoon of the Week. So should I perhaps do that?

Go for it, man. You go first. You're on a roll. So they're all about the beach, right? In a few days, I'm going to Sydney to look up some archives to do with my research. On the Sunday night, though, when I get there, I am going to see the band Massive Attack, who just happened to be from Bristol, so just near you. So there's a little bit of geography there as well.

Nice. And then I pulled out tonight my spoon of the week spoon, which just happens to be a fork, and look down and it's Kullaroy Beach, New South Wales, which I've never heard of, and I've never noticed this spoon before. So I look it up, and it turns out it's like a couple of kilometres down the road from Manly, where I'll be staying. So suddenly it's all about New South Wales. And so I was thinking about this beach and where I'm going,

and New South Wales in particular, which is a real beach-centric kind of place, how I've never been to this beach, but it's near Narrabeen, it's near Manly, which I love the beach, and I got thinking about the beach. And then I went to, and you won't believe this, I went to look up the unmade podcast list of ideas because surely we've mentioned the beach before, but no, there's nothing there. And so my idea, suddenly things were honing in nice and carefully about the beach.

And I thought, there's a whole bunch of ideas about the beach. One is my favourite beach, my best day at the beach, my worst day at the beach. And it goes on from there. A review of beaches going from beach to beach to beach. My wife's talked about a retirement project where she actually just drives around Australia and decides to swim at every single beach around Australia as like a 20-year project in retirement, which I'll be like, cool, see at the end of that. So, that's going to be with our second husband, obviously.

Is there an idea in there? Which of those strikes you, man? What's a good idea for a beach podcast? I mean, a good idea for a beach podcast. would be going along with your wife and doing every beach in Australia one episode a day from the beach, that would be pretty amazing. There are hundreds. I think there's several thousand beaches or something crazy around Australia.

I mean, Australia's massive, obviously, as a continent. To be honest, I'm kind of a bit drawn to the most obvious one, my favourite beach. You know, I'd love to hear what people's favourite beaches are. My best date, the beach is a good idea too. My worst date at the beach is a good idea. They all kind of wrap into one a little bit. beach, beach tales, beach stories, stories from the sand, something like that. Yeah, there's something there's something there's a kernel of something. Here's the Tim name for it. Okay.

The hourglass. Because as sands fall through an hourglass over time, sand, beach, man, are you with me? You're getting it? I think that aliens left and Tim, Tim's got his body back now. Hang on, I'm just checking if we're still inside 24 minutes. Oh, we're right on 24 minutes. Oh, we're right on 24 Okay, that's enough. Wake up people. The real show starts now. Yeah, like the beach podcast, is there some beachy word involving cast or pod? Take me further, man.

You've been, I think, to more beaches than I have around the world, the Maldives and all this kind of stuff. What's your favourite beach? Do you know what? I don't like the beach, right? I don't like going to the beach. It's hot, usually hot and sunny kind of by definition, because that's when people go to the beach. It's sandy. I kind of like being in the ocean,

but I don't always love it because there will be seaweed and weird things on the bottom. So I'm not a lover of the beach. That said, I have had good days at the beach. There are beaches I like. I love the beaches in the Maldives. They're wonderful. And swimming in the sea there's wonderful and seeing all the amazing fish and sharks and amazing sea life. I like that.

And they're beautiful beaches. Favorite beach? I don't know. Maybe Glenelg. Maybe I'm going to go like more nostalgic, more like parochial. Think of home and, you know, going to Glenelg Beach always makes me happy because it's home. It's where I grew up. It's where I went as a little boy all the time. It's not even Adelaide's best beach, but it's kind of my beach. I was born at Glenelg Hospital. If I'm pushed on the spot, I guess I'll go Glenelg Beach. I've seen a few nice ones around the place. But like I said, because I don't love beaches, they don't impress me

the way some people are impressed by a gorgeous beach. What's your favourite beach, man? I'm torn as well. Nostalgically, it would be Brighton Beach because I've had so many memories at Brighton Beach. That's where our family's always gone regularly to play in the beach. It's where I went and had lots of wispful times on my own, sitting on the rocks and thinking life through. But there's no waves, right? There's no waves. So there's no surfing. So, So I would have to go Shelley Beach, which is this little beach at Manly, which you would know from the BMX Bandits film. They ride their BMXs around. Shelly Beach at Manly.

I was watching that clip from the opening of BMX Bandits this morning. Get out of town. Why did you put that on? Because I had a long morning with Edward because he woke up early and I had him all morning. And we were watching like some clips on YouTube of things he likes. And I thought, oh, maybe he would like watching some BMX tricks. So I put in BMX Bandits and that clip came up. And he loves it because the guys are like doing tricks like standing on their

handelbars and all that sort of stuff, which he thinks is amazing. And it's that opening scene in BMX Bandits where they're riding along the beach and doing all those tricks. So I was watching that probably two hours ago. Oh, get out of town. That's fantastic. Yeah. Are there any decent beaches in England?

Oh, yeah. Yes. Yes. Devin and Cornwall are famous for having lovely beaches, lovely beaches. and fantastic surfing beaches. So sandy beaches or are they all stone and pebbles and stuff? No, no, no, no, gorgeous sand. That's a bit of a thing because England has some of those shale and rocky beaches.

People think all the beaches are like that, but that's not the case at all. And in fact, there's a beach quite close to me called Sand Bay, which is quite nice as well. Right. But Devon and Cornwall. There are Airbnbs that I go and stay at regularly down Devon and Cornwall way, which are also some of my absolute favorite beaches, little, nice little bays and coves and places and, yeah, lovely beaches in England, really lovely. Edward's pictures of the beach, does he have a connection with a particular beach? I know he's been to the Maldives, which is unusual for a kid, but does he have a favorite place where sandcastles have been made and stuff?

We don't take him to the beach a lot, because partly because I don't like the beach, I guess, so it's not like. So it won't be like a first choice place to go. But he does love going to the beach and he loves sandcast. He loves all those ones around Devon and Cornwall. And he loves running around in the sand. He loved the beaches in Adelaide. We'd go there every day. He loved Victor Harbour.

Went to like Boomer Beach with him, which he really loved. And he loved saying Boomer Beach. And he loved all the big waves at Boomer Beach. He loves the beach and he loves the sea. He loves going in the sea. You've got to stop him running in sometimes. That's an opportunity for tell my, my favourite story from Boomer Beach.

And that there's, it's a story that will, um, confirm all the international people's view of Australia in that it involves a shark. This is a friend of mine, um, Scott who was attacked by a shark down at Boomer Beach, right? It just came up near him and so forth.

And I heard about this in the newspaper, like I read it in the newspaper. And Scott is also a minister. And so it was very funny that the way it was described was that, um, you know, the person who was attacked was heard swearing at the shark. And not that there's, you know, not that ministers don't swear, but it was just funny that he was like,

Scott, a Baptist minister, was heard swearing at the shark. I also love how personal it is. It's not that he was swearing. He was swearing at the shark, like it was personal. Like, you better not come near me, you little. But he managed to get away and he was unharmed and all the rest of it. But legendary moment. Brilliant.

I love that, like when push comes to shove and when it could have been his like final moments on earth. It was swear words that came into his head. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. All right, yeah. Well, a beach podcast, man. You're on safe territory there.

Good idea. Safe territory. Everyone loves talking about beaches. Love talking about beaches. Should we do Spoon of the Week? Yeah, yeah. So, well, yeah, we can't, even though I've already sort of given a bit of a preview, we can't go further without hearing.

Spoon! Or Fork of the Week, as I said before, this is a tiny little fork. and in some ways more helpful. Because when you've got like a little piece of cake, right? Birthday cake gets handed around. Spoon's often useless, particularly with the icing, if it's got any strength in the icing, and being able to tap down with a little fork is very, very helpful.

And it still does all the scoopy work that a spoon does. So I'm a big fan of the little fork. Having said that, this is the only one I've got, I think. But it's still like a ceremonial fork. You know, it's like a tourist fork. It's got like, you know, the enamel handle with, the tourist attraction on it and stuff like that. It does.

Was this sold to be used as a fork or was it sold for the rack? No, it's very much the rack. Yeah, it's got a beautiful picture. You can't quite tell if it's a photo or a painting. I imagine it's a painting, but it's very tiny, of a beach, which I assume is Kulroy Beach, because underneath it says Kulroy Beach, New South Wales, which is the state which has Sydney, Australia's sort of biggest. city really, which is on the beach. And it's a very warm. It's a surfers kind of paradise,

although it's not surfers paradise. That's up in Queensland, a bit further up. And just to really confuse everybody. I don't think I should organise this trip around the country that my wife's going to go on. So anyway, this is it. It's a picture of a beach on a fork. And I've got nothing else to say about it, man, than that. Go and have a look in the show notes, people, want to see a picture of it. It somehow found its way into the Hine collection. Who knows what Jerry Hine was up to? He was probably just cruising the beach there, catching some waves himself maybe at some stage. I do actually have one more thing to say about it, and that is that the, what are these called the sporns or the pokey, pointy bits? What are they

called? I believe they're called tines, man. Are they really? Maybe tine? I think they are. Okay. There's pointy bits of a fork, I think they're called tines. If you're playing at home, picture a fork, not the handle, the other bit. They're not even on this one. The one on the left is thicker, which actually gives it a bit more, if you're right-handed, scoopiness close to you. But I actually think the outer edge of it is shaped in a way. It's not sharp, but it is shaped to be a sort of a cutting device like a knife. So this is a bit like a fork and a knife together.

but with an extra bit of scoopiness if you're right-handed. It's not a left-handed fork, that's for sure. They're pretty common those types of forks that have got that one of the tines or one of the prongs, if you prefer to call it, has got this sort of curved, blady nature to it so it gives it a bit more utility

as a piece of cutlery. I wouldn't call it a splayed though. We use spades at home. It's not that at all. No, it's not one of those. No. What a mini forks call? when they have a tine that is a curved blade.

Brady's idea of things that have never been Google before. It says, guess what it's called, man? It's got a name. Is it like a spork or a splayed or a... No? No. Let's go back to what you thought it should be used for. A cake icing breaking device?

It's called a cake fork. Oh, right. Okay, sure, of course, yes. Or a pastry fork, if you're a bit posher, but it is a cake fork. If it's got that extra little bit there, yeah, that can be used as a knife. I reckon I've heard someone say that before. Some of the ladies around the church or something like that, yes. A cake fork is a small fork, typically 15 to 17 centimetres long, with three or four tines.

One of the outer tines, usually the left one, is wider and flattened or has a slightly curved or beveled edge so that it can be used like a small knife to cut through the cake or pastry while the other tines can hold food. Well, that's, yeah, that confirm ID. That's exactly what I'm looking at. How did you know about the tines? And how do you spell tine? Tynes is spelled T-I-N-E, and I knew it because I have broad and excellent general knowledge, man. Of cutlery or of topics in general?

Everything. Just everything. I thought I knew everything about cutlery, but I didn't know. I've never heard Tyne before. I've never heard that. Wow. The Tyne had come, man. You didn't finally learn. Nice work.

Nice work. Well done. Very good. We're still inside that 24 minutes. People still asleep. I don't think we want to wake them up, man. Let's just let them keep sleeping while we natter on a bit longer. They're having a bit of a lie in today, that's for sure.

No question about that. I had the weirdest dream that these two Australians with a melodic. voices were talking about forks and tines and things. My turn for an idea, man. Yes, probably just in time. Go. Yes. Quick. So I'm just thinking with a name T. Hein, it's funny you'd never heard the word tine before. But so here's my idea. It's not really an idea for a podcast. It's an idea for, well, it could be a podcast. But the way I'm going to pitch it to you is an idea that's something I'd like to incorporate

into our podcast as a new kind of format and thing we do. Right. Because it's probably a little surprise to people that a lot of Tim and my thoughts about podcasting and audio content creation in general is shaped by radio stations of the 1980s, 1990s, maybe even the early 2000s. So I want to borrow something that I learned from Adelaide Radio and incorporate it into the content we're producing, man. Okay. I don't think this is going to wake people up, but sure, go ahead.

Now, I'm trying to think how to say this, how to put it, how to introduce it. This is not unique to Adelaide Radio, but Adelaide Radio certainly went hard on it. And I know from my research it happened in other cities in Australia, and I'm sure it has happened around the world. It's probably, probably every local radio station around the world in the sort of 80s and 90s did this. But I'm going to base mine on the way Adelaide did it. Right. Because I had a big impression on me. And Tim, to introduce it to you or to reintroduce it to you, because I'm sure you're very

familiar with it, I'm going to send you a picture because I want to get your reaction to the picture. So I'm going to text you a picture right now. And this will tell you immediately where my head is, okay? I have an idea in my head of what you're going to send. We'll see if it matches. Okay. Yes.

Exactly. It's even on Glenel... Wait, is that on Glenelbeach there? I don't even know where that is, but anyway, it's on the beach. But do you want to tell people what I sent you, man? This is what's called a Black Thunder. Black Thunder! It's a black four-wheel drive, a series of them,

that would drive around town promoting the radio station, giving away prizes and, you know. Yeah, so it's like an... It's like an SUV or a four-wheel drive. It's painted all black, hence they were called the Black Thunders. It was the radio station SAFM that had the Black Thunders. And on the radio, they'd come on and say, Hey, everyone, today the Black Thunders are parked down at Henley Beach,

or you can go and see the Black Thunders in the car park at Marion Shopping Centre. And if you were nearby and bit of a keener, you would go and see the Black Thunders, and they'd hand you out T-shirts and freebies. And it was part of like, it was a bit of a travelling billboard, but also a way of creating sort of hype and community. And, you know, and if you, sometimes, if you were lucky, you would even see Black Thunders in the while just driving along the road. And like you would say to you, you would say to your mates, you're not going to believe what I saw today on Burbridge Road.

Black Thunders driving the other way. I think they must have been heading out west somewhere. Like seeing the Black Thunders was like, it was like seeing a celebrity these cars, like, you know, because they had the SAF branding all over them. They would turn up at big occasions if there was like a big movie premiere or there was a big thing happening in town. Sometimes you'd see the Black Thunders parked nearby. Oh, man. They were rock and roll on wheels, man. Just hooning around our shoes.

You were partial to a Black 4-wheel drive too, so you must have loved the Black Thunders. Oh, yeah. Oh, and do you remember the time that one came to our school? Piss off. I don't remember that. You don't remember it all. No? It was associated with our Walkathon or something like that.

What? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, because they'd go to, like, charity events, wouldn't they? You could request the Black Thunders to come and... I don't remember. Oh. Remember, Big Bass's mum organized it. No way.

She did all the prizes for the walkathon that year, and they were awesome. They were all like stereos and stuff. And she arranged for a Black Thunder to come. That night on radio during the top seven countdown or whatever it was that happened every night that I listened to without fail and somehow can't remember, they mentioned our school that they'd been to our school that day. I mean, that obviously was just so incredible that my brain has been unethical. able to hold it at the Black Thunder. It's kind of coming back a bit now. Did the Black Thunder's Park at our school or down near Glenelg where we walk to? Were they like at the end or did they

no, no, it was just associated with the walkathon. It wasn't on that day and they came into our school yard and handed out like stickers and, you know, like a cap and, you know, that kind of stuff, yeah. Oh, wow. Black Thunder's in our school yard and I can't remember it. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous, I know. Golly gosh. So my idea would be for us to have like unmade thunder. Oh man, this is a great idea. I'm like, for some reason my cars, because I do have like a big four-wheel drive car that looks like a black thunder probably a bit more than your car.

So maybe we'd use my car for it. And my car's grey, so we could call it grey thunder. Yeah. The unmade grey thunder. And like we'd put some unmade podcast branding on it. Say next time you're in the UK, let's put some unmade podcast branding on it and just drive places and park and like and then like release instant podcast telling people where we are. Hey, run where parked, you know, near Trafalgar Square in London.

If you want some free stickers and some spoon of the week cards and stuff, come and come and hang out. Oh, just driving around in the in the unmade thunder. That's awesome. That's awesome. They'd also have, I don't know how we'd organise this, but they'd have stuff like Bon Jovi tickets and stuff like that, you know. Yeah.

They would give out. That was it. They'd give away quite good prizes sometimes, wouldn't they? Like, the first 10 people to get to the Black Thunder would get, like, tickets to a concert that night, you know. Yeah. But at the very least, you're walking away with a can of Coke and a sticker. Yeah. Which is so funny because the sticker was just like promotion of their radio station to put on your car.

Like, it was just like, here's something that's going to promote us. You can take away with you. But it was like so cool to have one of those on your car. There was definitely a certain cachet with having an S-A-FM sticker. bumper sticker on the back of your car. Like, yeah. Yeah, very nice. Did you get that?

Where'd you get that? Did you get that from a Black Thunder? Or was it hidden under the seat at a movie premiere you went to? I remember they started varying them as well. Like S-A-FM rocks. Marion. S-A-F-M rocks the show. S-A-F-M rocks, you know, the beach and all that kind of stuff.

And you can pick a different one. All right. Well, there we go. It sounds like you're on board for the unmade grey thunders. Grey thunder, you think? Is that right? Not the teal thunder? because we've got kind of a teal color in the,

or the unmade thunder. What's, no, it's got to be the color of the car. And like the black thunders for SFM were black. And my car's grey. So I'm leaning grey thunder. Unless you want to like buy a teal colored four-wheel drive for the sake of our podcast.

We could go out and buy a full drive. We could buy a whole fleet and have them going all over Europe promoting the unmade podcast. I mean, I really want, I really want to do this with you. But I'm not sure when you and I are going to be in the same place next. So maybe I need to brand up my car and just.

go and do a bit of solo, unmade thundering around the UK. Don't be ridiculous. Forget my trip to Sydney. I'm re-booking my tickets and coming straight over. Straight over. We'll go and do some thunder work around the UK. All right. Well, it sounds like this is something we need to get happening.

Obviously, you could make a whole podcast based around, you know, being in a car like this that you go and podcast in different places and ask people to come to you. But I want to make it an unmade thing. So I'm going with unmade thunder. I literally have a meeting coming up pretty soon with, some people associated with these radio stations, and I might ask why they don't do the Black Thunders anymore. Well, are you sure they don't?

Because I had a look. And I definitely saw some posts from within the last two years or so where SAFM had reintroduced the Black Thunders. Oh. And they were different cars. They were like more modern kind of jeeps. They weren't as massive as the old Black Thunders from back in the day. But they were still SUV, four-wheel-drive type cars.

Right. They didn't have that iconic branding, because obviously SIFM branding is not the same anymore. They haven't got that famous blue and red logo now, and it's all a bit new wave. Well, SIFM is more of a pop station these days. And back then it was the rock station. And Triple M is the kind of rock station.

That's part of it as well. They always had a pretty good stereo system, like pumping out the music. So I think that's definitely what we need to be doing too, pumping out the chat. So we go and park like in some public place, like near a beach or at a busy road. Open the boot. and have stickers and stuff that we're giving out to people come,

and we'll be there in promotional t-shirts. But we'll have the windows down and over the stereo system in the car, we'll have our podcast blaring out at maximum decimals. That's right. People just driving past hearing it and falling asleep immediately. Was that an unmade thunder? I think I saw the unmade thunders today. Get two of them.

We'll each drive one. An unmade thunder. They were two black thunders at times, weren't there? Because sometimes they'd go like in a fleet. and you'd see two of them driving together, and you'd be like, oh my God, I just saw two black thunders driving down Anzac Highway. That was very rare. Yeah, no, that's like a convoy.

That's like seeing the presidential convoy or something in America. That's massive, yeah. That's exactly the vibe I had. These two black, cool-looking SUVs driving in convoy somewhere, and you were like, oh, I can't believe it. Can't believe I saw it. Because there's nothing in Adelaide that had that kind of appeal. It's not like we had royalty, you know, with some.

We never had anyone who had a flag on the bonnet of their car, you know, I mean, like the president or anything like that. I think, I think the state governor had a little flag on the bonnet when he drove somewhere. Yeah, but we didn't know who the governor was. It's not like there's someone. No. Yeah. And he would never give us stickers and T-shirts and caps and stuff. No, no.

Definitely not Bon Jovi tickets. Can't believe it. I saw the governor of South Australia today. He gave me two tickets to go and see pink. Pink tickets. Australians do anything for pink tickets. When Pink Tours Australia sells out more than John Farnham, it's ridiculous, like 10 nights in every state.

The Australian obsession with pink is amazing to me. Yeah. Like, I don't mind. I don't mind pink. I don't mind. She had that good album. I don't mind the odd Pink song. And, you know, she's popular around the world.

But in Australia, it's crazy. It is. Crazy. They just love pink. And I think she does more shows in Australia than she does around the United States. I think she does a bit of a warm up around the States. You know, two nights at Madison Square Garden warming up to come over to the Adelaide Entertainment Center, where she like goes for four weeks.

You know what she needs to do, move to Australia, pink thunder. Pink thunders, yes. She's missing a trick there, isn't she? That's right. Guess what I saw today, the pink thunder. The pink was in it. No, that wouldn't be safe. Pink would be absolutely mobbed if she went out in public in Australia.

It wouldn't be safe. She's too popular. Man, this is a good, I. I don't know what the idea for a podcast is in there somewhere. I guess it's just like an idea associated with the podcast. Yeah, it's just a new, it's a new, it's a new string in our bow. It's a new arrow in our quiver. It's just a new weapon, a new segment, a new thing we can do to just continue spreading the word

and growing the international recognition of the Unmade podcast. It'd be great. Once we get the thunder and it's around, then we can have a segment in every episode where we update people on where it is today. like around the place, we can just give people. And, you know, if they're not able to go there, we can say, well, it's currently, you know, traveling up the M1 or whatever you call it, or currently, you know, just moving through the streets of Oxford.

You know, we just give, and we could cross live to it. That'd be, that'd be cool too. We do have the problem that our podcast is pre-recorded and then edited and not a live thing. No, we don't guarantee that it's in that place when people get there. We're just saying it's in that place when we're recording. Okay, right. We would have to hire someone to drive it around, though, as a staff member. So that's going to be an added expense.

On top of buying the car. I've got the grey thunder. I've got a grey thunder. I just need to get some stickers and branding for it. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, look, we could do it in advance. Like we could say on this date at this time,

we're going to be in this place. You know, come and get some stickers. I love the idea of getting, like, massive stickers made and, like, magnets and stuff and putting them on your car and just totally hotting up your car. I've done it before. When I used to have a mini, I did this thing for the BBC called,

Route 366 because it was a leap year and I went to 366 towns around my region over the course of the year, a bit like your wife's beach's idea. And I had one made, this like Route 366 big BBC magnet thing made that I could put on the sides of the car. So, you know, I've got history here. I've done it before. I can do it, man. I can brand it up. Nice, nice. You're going to tax deduct that car if it kills you, aren't you mean? Good idea, good idea, the Black Thunder. I love that you brought this up and that's what I pictured and then the photo came through and that's exactly what was in my mind.

Oh, I wish I'd done a Charlie Carboney then and I said, what do you remember about radio? And you said, oh, I remember the Black Thunders. And then I could have had a Black Thunder drive in the room from the green room. Well, look what I've got. Look what surprise I've got. What are the odds? You mentioned it. I remember that day when the Black Thunder came to our school.

I remember turning to the person next to me. It was a person called Joel that you'll remember and saying, this is the greatest job ever. Like, imagine if you were the person driving this around and going to schools and giving out tickets. I just remember saying, this is the greatest job ever. It must be great. You must just permanently live in this bubble of happiness and joy where people are happy, unless you're right out of Bon Jovi tickets.

And someone's like driven across town for this. They're free Bon Jovi tickets and they get there just too late. But generally you're right. It must be a bit like being a Santa Claus. You're just rocking up and being a hero and giving out presents. Yeah, yeah. Do you remember the names of any of the announcers or people that were driving the Black Thunders? Nah, not really.

I would remember them if you said them to me. I'd be like, oh, yeah, I remember him and her. I feel like there was Sean someone, but I don't, I don't remember. They all have nicknames like Timbo. Oh, yeah. Timboem. It'll be Timbo and Braydos in the Unmade Thunder. That's right. Yeah. They're always like that. Those Brecky teams are always, you know,

Baz, Noggo and, you know, Bob, Bob. And so, you know. Yeah. Sally and the boys. You know. Timbo Brados on the morning jester. Yeah, yeah. That's right. That's always. And they're always like, oh, there's always stories in the paper about them winning the ratings. You know what I mean? oh, they're the kings of radio and stuff.

And then six months later, it's like, oh, they've been dumped, right? There's a whole new three ex-footballers and a girl, you know. And they've poached the weather presenter from Channel 10. Yeah, it's all that sort of stuff. Yeah, it's like the radio brecky wars are massive in Australia. I don't know how it keeps people's interest. I don't know how it's always news, and I've never heard. of any of them. It's just unbelievable.

Yeah, the newspaper gossip column. You're not going to believe what Sally and Noggo have done today. I don't even know who Sally and Noggo are. Noggo. Let us retire to the request room. We have some questions from Patreon supporters. Patreon.com slash Unmade FM. Sign up people.

We're putting so much good stuff on there at the moment. We have loads of behind the scenes videos from our Charlie Carboney moment on there. And we're going to go and talk about. about that now in today's request room. See you there. There are links down below. Hey everyone. Timbo and Brados here in The Unmade Thunder. We're parked down at the beach today at Cleveland in Somerset. And if the first 20 people to come there and say the secret code word are going to get a cake fork.