The Unmade Podcast - 186: Epiphany
Episode Date: September 14, 2026Tim and Brady discuss Colonel Sanders’ Bibles, guitar straps, quiz night de-briefing, astromech droids, moments of realisation, a Port Adelaide spoon, and a questionable museum.This week’s jam-pac...ked Request Room - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM/posts/request-room-186-169514730Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFMJoin the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/Unmade_Podcast/Catch the podcast on YouTube where we often include accompanying videos and pictures - https://www.youtube.com/@unmadepodcastUSEFUL LINKSColonel Sanders - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_SandersPictures from this episode (including the guitar strap and cricket museum) - https://www.unmade.fm/episode-186-picturesBrady’s Isaac Newton videos from Objectivity - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLd5y2WfrtsPrH7Al55_dTYcOQ556LzeYRPictures of Spoon of the Week - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-weekPort Adelaide - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_AdelaideThis week’s absolute classic Request Room episode - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM/posts/request-room-186-169514730
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Let the funniness begin.
No, there will be no funniness.
I'm starting with a story of heartbreak and sadness.
Oh, man.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Well, you should be sorry because you are the loser of this story.
Oh, okay.
That sounds a bit passive-aggressive.
But often when we're grieving, we get a little bit aggressive.
So...
Okay.
Share, take the time.
This is your space, man.
Thank you.
I opened a message from one of our Patreon supporters named Maximilian.
And I had missed this message.
I had overlooked it.
It was my fault.
I was behind on my correspondence.
And I was catching up with my Patreon inbox.
I opened this message from Maximilian.
He told me something interesting and important,
but it was too late and the opportunity had passed.
Well, I hear that confession.
What was the substance?
He was informing me of an auction
that took place in the United States in July
of memorabilia and possessions that had belonged to,
Colonel Sanders of KFC fame.
There were all sorts of amazing things, right?
Many of them sold for quite expensive prices, as you would imagine.
Yeah.
Particularly if it related to cooking and chicken and KFC and recipes,
but there were all sorts of other personal items,
including not one, but two personally owned Bibles that Colonel Sanders had owned.
Man!
Colonel Sanders, one of the monogrammed.
in gold on the front, Colonel Harlan Sanders, another one with his name inscribed in the front page.
And I thought, oh, man, this would have been the ultimate present for Tim.
And I said, and I went and had a look at what they sold for.
And I was hoping in my heart of hearts that they had sold for some ridiculous price that I could never possibly have afforded.
And that would have made me feel better.
Do you want to hear what they sold for?
Yes.
The personal New Testament and Psalms Bible, with his gold inscription on the front, Colonel Harlan Sanders,
$900 US.
Oh, man.
I would have stretched to that.
Yeah.
And a Gideon's New Testament presented to him with his name in the front, $525.
Oh, man.
Can you believe it?
Now you know why I feel terrible.
You could have, I could have got you, or you could have got a Bible owned by Colonel Sanders.
Just the synergy of that is mind-boggling.
Amazing.
The fact that we've missed out on that opportunity,
it makes me wonder if there is a God.
Like I'm questioning everything.
There is a God.
His name is Maximilian and I ignored his call.
He was a prophet.
He was brought to you and you did not heed his cry.
I did not.
And now I am paying the price.
Can't believe it.
Can't believe it.
I think the onus is now on you to contact,
to track this Bible down and pay whatever you need to pay
to get me that Bible.
You think I haven't thought of contact of the office?
auction house and saying, who got it, please tell me.
Have you done that already, have you?
I haven't, but I will.
I don't know if they give out such information, but...
It'll be in the millions now.
You and I will enter a bidding war for it.
They'll be, oh, some other guy has contacted us.
Wouldn't it be awesome if we both had got an email from Maximilian
and we'd both been bidding secretly for each other against each other
and driving the price up into the thousands?
Unbelievable.
Oh, that would have been amazing.
All sorts of other great stuff.
A Colonel Black Clip-on bow tie sold for $8,000.
A 1964 handwritten date book and working planner went for $30,000.
That was the highest one.
Wow.
It included an intriguing handwritten list of 11 herbs and spices and measurements.
Oh, I guess the bow tie would be like the one that's actually on the brand, the logo.
Yeah, right.
A 195.
Kentucky Colonel Commission Certificate,
so the certificate making him a colonel in the state of Kentucky.
All sorts of great stuff.
There were pressure cookers, watches, his personal watches,
traveling cutlery, presidential correspondence, a briefcase,
all sorts of stuff.
But those two Bibles, man, can you imagine Colonel Sanders Bible?
Is there a more sacred object?
Imagine the oil stains on the pages of those Bibles.
Wow.
Amazing, amazing, amazing.
But gone.
because Brady did not check his inbox.
I don't know if you're forgiven.
Like, I know this is like my core business.
Man, man, I realize there are like,
there are certain black stains of sin that even like, you know,
God himself cannot forgive it.
The unforgivable sin.
I committed the unforgivable sin.
We're just not remembering to bid on Colonel Sanders' Bible.
Can't believe it.
I'm sorry.
This is going to go down as one of my great regrets in life.
This isn't like a double fake sort of thing, is it?
Where Charlie Carboney steps out, you know?
This isn't one of those.
No, man.
Like someone's not waiting outside my window right now,
holding Colonel Sanders' Bible about to knock.
No, man.
I'm afraid not.
It's not that time.
It's not like that time when my dad met Garth Brooks
and got him to get autographs for both of us.
And then you came around to my house.
And I pulled out mine and showed it to you
and showed off and gloated, and you were like just going,
oh, it's really nice.
I was trying so hard to be nice and happy for you
and keep my own feelings in check.
I was being such a good, polite friend.
And then I remember you just turning around,
hey man, I got one for you too.
The tears flowed.
Oh, man, I sobbed into your arms, man, man.
That's all forgotten now under the shadow of Colonel Sanders.
gate. Oh yes. No, that's right. Yes. No, that's, that's history. But that, you know, that,
that brought you a lot of grace for a long time. Sadly, that cup has run dry. Would you rather have a
Bible that had been personally owned and, like, inscribed and stuff by Colonel Sanders, Garth Brooks,
or Nick Cave? I would rather have the Nick Cave one, I think, although that seems,
that feels close and quite easy to get, actually. I think the Colonel, I think I would actually
rather have, I'm changing my mind. I would rather have the Colonel Sanders one. He was a very
religious man, Colonel Sanders. Like, he did speak about his faith a lot. He was like, you know,
it wasn't just some, you know, I don't know if he, what he did with these Bibles, but he was a godly
man. And he, like he's been on a few, there's a, on YouTube, there's a few bits of footage of him
going on to sort of somewhat tacky American Christian TV shows, you know, and he's sort of
heralded like a legend that he is just walking in and they're just like, oh my goodness,
it's Colonel Sanders. When I started this chicken business, I was sinful.
and all, but I prayed to God that if he'd make it a success,
I see that his cause was always remembered and take care of first.
You have.
And I hope I have.
When you see video footage of Colonel Sanders, like, moving and alive and talking,
it doesn't seem real.
It seems like fake.
Like, he's such a static object in our life because he's like this logo on the KFC.
When you see, like, the real moving thing, it's almost, it's like AI or like it's this weird thing
that's been brought to life, but it is like real footage of the real man.
And he looks just like that, you know.
Yeah, it's like seeing Abraham Lincoln the movie.
It's like, oh, this is weird.
He's actually a person, not just this sort of, you know, mythic object figure.
I know.
There's a better version.
It's not like Abraham Lincoln.
It would be like the Statue of Liberty suddenly being like someone walking down the street.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's good.
Quick message from Joey.
Hi, Brady and Tim.
I finally subscribed to Patreon after receiving what I consider a sign from God.
God. The guy working at the register at five guys where I ordered an excessive amount of food
was named Brady H. It could only have been more divine a coincidence if it was from KFC. So that's
what it took. That's what it took for Joey to become a Patreon supporter, being served at five guys
by someone called Brady H. We need to get more Brady Hs out there as ambassadors to sign people
up if that's what it takes. If you are called Brady H, get in touch.
We need your help.
We need all the Brady H's out there.
Wouldn't it be wonderful to collate a list of all the Brady H's?
Like, there wouldn't be that many.
You wouldn't think so.
There might be a few hundred in the world, right?
Possibly.
If that, even.
If that.
I think it'd be great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
To know them all.
For you all to know each other.
Yeah.
For us all just to get together and hang out.
Yeah.
Go on a cruise together.
Just the cruise staff coming out.
Martini for Brady.
This is just massive chorus of me.
Sorry, let me be more specific, Martini for Brady H.
Yep, yeah, yep.
There we go.
Thanks, Joey.
Welcome to the warm bosom of our Patreon supporters.
I hope you enjoy all the bonus material.
And speaking of the bonus material that patrons get, ma'am, we posted a video recently
that I recorded with you in your office when I was in Australia.
We were just talking stuff and looking at stuff in your office.
And we didn't talk about it.
But in the background was your guitar.
And Justin noticed your guitar in the background and sent me the following message.
In the video of Tim's office, we saw his acoustic guitar at the ready.
What brand is that beautiful leather guitar strap?
Can you help Justin?
He wants to know what that beautiful leather guitar strap was on your guitar.
I can help him.
The guitar's not behind me at the moment.
It's actually in the church, which is the building next door,
because I actually played guitar on Sunday, just gone.
Nice. Nice.
I could walk over and check the brand and come back and tell you.
Would you like me to do that now?
Well, how long would that take?
It would take under one minute, but more than 30 seconds.
I'm okay with that.
All right.
All right.
Well, you sing something.
Bring the guitar back.
I'll expect a strum when you get back.
Don't just look.
All right.
All right.
All right.
Here I go.
Tim's off.
Tim's off.
I'm going to time it.
Go.
How long does it take Tim to get from his office where he records the podcast to
to the central part of the church where the guitar will be.
I don't know if the guitar will be on the stage.
We're in the little back room where I know he keeps the musical instruments,
but it'd be one of the two.
No doubt Tim will then pick it up, grab it, hold it.
I don't know if he'll run back or walk back.
I don't know if you're supposed to run with guitars or not.
Like I know you're not supposed to run with scissors,
but I don't know what like the protocol or the etiquette around is.
Like with guitars?
I've never, it's not something I've really thought.
about or explored in any detail. But either way, I'm imagining Tim by now has the guitar in his
hand. I think we're up around the 30 second mark. So we're getting into the sweet spot now where
he promised he'd be back. I'm thinking it's going to go past a minute here. So in a way,
Tim has, like, broken his word. And I think when you break your word in a church, that, like,
that counts for more. I think it carries more weight. It's something that, um,
He needs to think about. He needs to think about the promises he makes because, you know,
you can't just casually promise things on a podcast and not deliver. We're definitely past a minute
now. We're definitely past a minute. And we're really, really pushing my ability to talk
without editing, without help, without someone to talk to. I mean, I'm just looking at a blank screen.
Well, it's not blank. I can see Tim's microphone and his chair. I can see various things in the
background, a typewriter on the shelf, which reminds me, I haven't asked him lately whether or not
he has made that Lego typewriter. I got him as a birthday present. I know he was partway through
constructing it with his daughter and told me it would be finished soon. And then kind of he's gone
very quiet on the topic. And I imagine if he finished it, he would have told me. He would have sent
me a picture. And he hasn't done that. So I'm thinking maybe that project has been abandoned.
I might bring it up with him shortly.
Other things I can see on Tim's shelf, obviously a lot of books.
I can see his little unmade podcast shelves where he has memorabilia from the podcast.
I can see a roll of brown paper, which brings us back.
Oh, he's back.
It was more than a minute, but not crazily more.
Yeah, it had been put in the back storage room.
As I speculated to the listeners while you were away.
It's all kind of, because it's all dark.
and stuff. It's a little bit spooky going into the church at this time of night, right?
Oh, yeah. Just put on like one light, not all of them. So it's all sort of dark and ominous and cool and
gothic and stuff. Like everything a church is not supposed to be, loving and welcoming and kind.
It's all just dark and spooky. Have you not seen the Da Vinci Code?
Okay, there's that leather strap. It's not as ornate as I thought it was going to be. It's quite
simple. What's the brand, man? No, you want a pretty simple one. I'm just turning it over and seeing if there's a
brand on there somewhere.
This beautiful leather has a lovely smell.
Sadly, I cannot find a name.
There's no brand, sorry.
What an absolute pointless waste of podcast time that was.
Where did you get it?
Do you even remember where you got it?
I did.
I got it at the music store.
A few streets over.
Winston's music store.
It's on Winston Parade.
But yeah, it's lovely leather, but I'm sorry.
I don't know.
I don't have the brand.
I will take some lovely photographs of it, though.
So if you want to find a replica, you can.
I know.
I have, like, our podcast has an official, like, leather smith or leather maker,
whatever you call a leather person.
Because we have all our, like, our leather key rings.
I've made some leather collector card holders and things like that.
So maybe I'll have a chat to Steve, our leather guy,
and see if he wants to make custom-made, unmade podcast leather guitar straps.
Oh, that'd be awesome.
I would love one of those.
Yeah?
That would be fantastic.
Do you think we have enough guitarists out there for us to make a little, for it to be worth
me commissioning them and having them made?
No, like most of the things we get commissioned or made, they're extravagant and amazing,
but generally they are not worth it.
They are only done because you are the kind of person who having had an idea needs to
see it through.
So I'm officially going on the record saying, no, it's not worth it.
But I totally think you should do it.
Send me some detailed pictures and I'll show you.
them to Steve and see if he can make a few. I'll have them made from our Australian
Nut official leather. Oh, beautiful. Australian Nut being the official leather of the
Unmade podcast. Not many podcasts have an official like brand of leather. No, no, no, I'm very proud of
it. I'd like to work our way through to having our own sort of boots in the similar vein of
the R.M. Williams boots and our Unmade podcast boots and I'll basically never have to go shopping
again. Did you want me to play something while I'm here? Go on then. Go on. It'd be rude not to.
Play what you played at church on Sunday.
What did I play?
I can't remember what we played.
Can you play Fear Not?
No.
Can you play Jesus is the Rock and he rolls my blues away?
No.
No, I don't know.
I mean, that's just the bar blues.
Hang on a sec.
Literally give me a sec, man.
And I'll just think of it.
Come on, man.
Congress doesn't take this long.
I can't remember.
I can't remember.
Okay, well after we finished recording, Tim sent me this.
On Sunday we did this song called Good Good Far.
A thousand stories of Way or land away.
Anyway, it's a really nice song.
That was it.
Did you see, man, there was, in the last week or two,
there was a viral video of some little kid doing the solo from Money for Nothing.
And I think every second person who listens to the Unmade podcast
sent me a link to the video.
Yeah, really?
Yeah.
It's amazing how many very little kids are much better guitarists than I am.
I know.
And better podcasters.
And better.
Have you finished building the Lego typewriter?
No.
No, we haven't.
However, I went on a trip the other day and as a little gift for my children on the way,
back, I did buy a little Lego cactus from that flower range and that has been built.
Right.
And that's being displayed on our dining table.
So that's great.
But we've not got back to the typewriter yet.
So the typewriter is it's the worst of both worlds for you because it's been opened.
So it's sort of, you know, sacred holiness has been tainted.
But it's not actually been built.
So it's in this half complete kind of state.
What's going on?
too hard? Is it too boring? Like, where has the impetus gone? Why is it not made?
You should talk to my eldest daughter about that, because this is a joint project. I'm up for doing
it all the time. And I go and I think, oh, no, I better wait and do it together with her. And then
other times I say, hey, how about we to work on the Lego? Oh, yeah, maybe, you know, later or something
like that. So we've broken the back of it. I think we've done a lot of the most complex technical,
inner gearing sort of stuff. And we just need to do the fun sort of lovely green exterior. And maybe
this conversation will be enough.
All right.
Well, if you are listening,
Aldous Daughter,
you know who you are,
I know who you are.
Build the typewriter.
Your secret word for this episode is build.
Get to work on that.
All right.
I will not forget.
I will be following up.
We had a message from Caitlin, man.
When listening recently,
I heard you mention what other people's favorite episodes are to go to sleep to.
Mine is episode 23, Natalie O, which has classics such as the MFP, the multifunction polis, and of course, the heights.
Yes.
I actually wrote in two years ago to let you know, I listened to the Unmade podcast whilst I was in labour.
Well, we've now welcomed baby number two, and my choice of episode for this labour was the first Tommy Bowl game you both commentated.
It might be a bit of a weird choice, but it was good to zone out to.
The baby is called Ori, sadly no Billy Ray Cyrus reference,
but it means light and divine wisdom,
which is what we felt the world needed,
yet to get Tim or Brady as a middle name,
but maybe on Baby Three.
Oh, fantastic, something to look forward to.
I remember Natalio.
That's a lovely, lovely song.
It is.
Natalio, she's pretty.
Natalio, I'm not a liar.
That's still an earworm for me.
after.
Man, the guitar's right behind you.
You could have, that could have been the moment.
You could have just turned around and grabbed the guitar.
But you went,
Archipela.
The Caesar Salad Gate, the controversy of the Melbourne Uniting Quiz Night,
has generated a lot of interest amongst our listeners.
Some people thinking, indeed, the Quizmaster was being too pedantic,
and lettuce should have been allowed as an answer.
A lot of people thinking the Quizmaster was right to want Remain Lettuce,
as the answer, but perhaps should have been more explicit in the question and said something
along the lines of, I want a specific type here, I don't just want the general ingredient.
But it's caused a lot of discussion, a lot of interest. Has it died down at the church yet?
You know, you've had another Sunday or two since.
There's been quite a lot of quiz night debriefing, much more than in other years.
Not really about Lettuce Gate. I think people have let that go. Because it was overturned on the
night, right? So even though it came up at church the next day and it continued in conversation
over morning tea, it's sort of been let go now. But other points have come up around the quiz
night making for next year. We spend a lot of time talking about the quiz night. It's really
passionately held here. I know you spoke highly of the quiz master, but obviously this is like,
you know, a dark moment for him. Was there a moment where he like came into your office and like
tended his resignation and you were like, no, I won't accept it? Like, you know, I don't blame you
for it and I'm not accepting your resignation and stuff?
Or did he, did he fall on his sword?
No.
In fact, I've been trying to meet with him and he's elusive.
He's on the run.
Just between you and me, I hear he's had a few offers from other churches.
Oh, no, he wouldn't do that.
No, he's loyal.
He's a good man.
No, I've seen him.
He's continued to turn up at church for the last few weeks, which is wonderful.
Yeah.
But we have been trying to catch up to have a coffee.
And that's proved to be very difficult to nail down.
Oh, no.
Well, I don't blame him.
Are you deliberately trying to have that meeting with him in a public place
so he won't make a scene when you strip him of his job?
Like at the start of Jerry Maguire.
Yeah.
Oh, no, you brought me out for coffee.
I know what this is about.
No, it's not that.
No, no, no, no.
He is central to the operation.
He's a real gift to the church.
And certainly to the quiz diet, he's absolutely the quiz master.
Right.
So, yeah, no, no, I've got to meet with him.
I've got to get that, I've got to lock him into a contract.
That's what I feel like I need to do over the next few years.
But no, no, I don't blame him for this.
He has a very good high standard of quiz night, which is what you need for it to really work as a night.
Yeah.
And so he maintains that really well.
Even when there are calls from other people to compromise in certain areas, he sensed, he has a pretty good nose for it.
Okay.
Having said that, I'm going to meet with him.
we're going to talk over a few details that I don't feel I should, you know, litigate publicly
with everyone here on the podcast.
Okay.
We'll keep that behind closed doors.
I'll tell you, I heard from Steve, this is a bit of an involved message, but I had to read
it because it resonated with me personally.
Steve said, your brief mention on the latest podcast about Quizmasters getting the answers
wrong reminded me of an anecdote.
Back in 2005, I was working an office job and listened to one of those morning zoo
radio shows on my way to work. They had a coal in contest to answer Star Wars trivia, and the prize
was an early screening of the then-new Star Wars movie Revenge of the Sith. I felt pretty good about
my Star Wars nerd credentials, so I called in to give it a shot. I could hear the coals ahead of me
while I was on hold, and I knew the answers to their questions. So I was feeling pretty good. Then they
asked, what kind of droid is R2D2? I heard a caller ahead of me correct.
say astromec, only to have the DJ say it was wrong and hang up before the caller could argue.
Oh no.
The next caller, same thing.
So at this point, I wasn't afraid of not knowing the answer.
I was afraid they'd hang up before I could say anything.
Then they got to me.
I quickly said, those other guys were right.
It's astro mech.
The host said their researcher had put protocol, and I replied,
No, man, that's C3PO.
That was apparently enough to convince them.
So they put me through and I won the prize.
So I not only got the tickets to a movie I was looking forward to,
I also got to correct the Quizmaster live on radio.
Not sure what happened to those other callers who got it right,
but I hope the radio station called them back or something.
I liked that story, man.
Because I was just telling my little boy about what astromic droids were a week or two ago.
So I was like in an astromic.
I was actually having dinner the other night with Kylie, my wife,
And we were talking about what my specialist subject would be if I was on Mastermind, the quiz show in the UK, where you pick like a specialist subject and they give you very specific questions about it.
And I said Star Wars original trilogy and we got talking and then she got Googling and she found the list of questions that had been asked to previous contestants who had chosen that as their subject and then quizzed me on it to see how I would do and asked me also asked me all these specific questions that were used on Mastermind.
and man, how'd you go? Nailed it. Absolutely nailed it. And it was all these, you know, what species
of alien was this and what was then? And I was getting all these super obscure questions right. And as I,
as it went further and further, I was thinking, she must be pretty impressed. Like, this is pretty
amazing. And then when I got to the end, I realized actually, it was actually really, like,
it was actually really sad that I knew those answers. And it actually made me look really bad. Like,
because she was reading all these things that she didn't even, you know, what was the name of,
Landau Calrissian's co-pilot on the attack on the Death Star and Retro to the Jedi.
And I'm naming, you know, this obscure alien with some weird name that she can't even pronounce.
And then I'm thinking, how good's that?
But I've realised just how stupid, like how nerdy it makes me look like knowing all these aliens name.
And there were a couple of questions where she would ask the question.
And let me guess you would correct her pronunciation of a word halfway through the question and then answer the question.
But there were a couple of, we then sort of go.
there were a few times where I said
that there is no answer to that question
that character wasn't named
or there is no name for that person in the films
and that was the correct answer
that's how good I was
like a few times there was correct
there is no name given
like like so I was I was even
getting the ones you can't answer right
why do you know why I mean look
I've watched the movies a heap of times
and I grew up with it and I had figures and all that kind of stuff
why do you know all that obscure stuff
I've never heard the word atro mech ever in my life
Astromic. I think it's because I got a little...
I love how you correct me with it.
I think it's because I also got into some of like, you know, the Return of the Jedi cards.
And I started reading a lot of the books surrounding it and literature and that.
So I think it's because I probably did a lot of reading around it as well.
Because you're right, if you just watch the films, a lot of those characters aren't named or, you know, there's no way you can take it from the films.
But I think it's because I got into a lot of the stuff surrounding the films.
And when you read stuff, it sticks in your brain better, especially when you're young.
So I think it's because of my reading.
So you choose that subject over cricket, did you?
I think I probably would.
I think you could probably ask me too many questions about cricket.
I wouldn't know, whereas I think you would struggle to come up with Star Wars questions
that I couldn't answer around the original trilogy.
I could say the Australian cricket team of the 1990s, and then it would be, I'd do better.
But still, there's a, I just feel like.
Star Wars, it would be hard to come up with questions.
You could come up with questions if you started getting into, like, you know,
who was the second director of special effects and stuff like that in the film.
You know, I wouldn't know that.
Yeah, sure.
But, yeah, anyway, there we go.
Hello to whoever was the second director of special effects.
You're a very important person.
Just because Brady doesn't know your name.
That's a really, that's a great idea there in itself, isn't it?
A quiz.
Mastermind.
Someone's already had it.
It's called Mastermind.
Yeah, I think quizzes, I think quizzes are pretty well-trodden ground in the world of podcasting.
But would you like to hear an idea for a podcast from me?
Please, please.
I have two possible names for this.
One is the better name, but it's more of a Tim name and it doesn't exactly fit what I want to do.
I like it.
Yeah.
And that name is Epiphany.
Right. But the name I'm going to go for for it's a bit more what it says on the tin is moment of realization. And this is a podcast where you talk about either historical examples or your own personal examples of the exact moment that something happened or you realized something or a thought happened that kind of was paradigm changing or important to your life. And there is something attached to it, preferably something unrelated or only tangentially related to the subject itself.
But you can remember the moment.
You can remember exactly what happened.
There are famous examples.
I think the most famous example in history
is Isaac Newton watching an apple fall from a tree
on the estate, on the grounds of his home.
And as it fell, he kind of suddenly
some of the fundamentals of gravity came to him
why the moon is falling towards the earth
but orbiting and things like that.
He like watching that apple fall
was the moment that everything clicked
and gravity clicked into play.
place for him. Famous example. There are other famous examples. That's a good example.
I often confuse that example with William Tell shooting an apple off a kid's head.
But there are two different moments in history, aren't they? They are unrelated now. Yes.
There are another very famous example in this world, the science world, is the story of Archimedes who got
into the bath and the bath was too full and when he got in, the water splashed over. And then he realized,
Hang on, you can use the displacement of water to measure the volume of a regular objects that you don't know the volume of.
And he famously says, Eureka, I have found it.
You know, here's this Eureka moment.
And that was in a bathtub.
The story also goes that he got out of the bath naked and went up to his, and went running through the town saying, you know, Eureka.
I don't know whether that part's true.
But the bath part is a famous story.
So what did he do?
He sort of said, if you've got a funny shape and you can't measure the mass of it, you can pour a liquid into it.
The volume of it, yeah, and you can then measure how much water is displaced by putting the object into the water.
And therefore you can...
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's clever, yeah.
Smart guy.
Eureka, that was my moment right there.
In those two cases, the incidents are quite related to the thing they discovered, the thing they thought of.
But there's another other famous stories.
One of them is Poin-Carray, the mathematician, who made a great breakthrough in his...
like mathematical work.
And he had, as he was stepping onto a bus, in 1880, he was just stepping onto a bus.
And as he stepped onto the bus, he said something in his brain just flipped.
And he had the idea.
And I don't think the idea he had was related to the bus in any way.
But he just remembers where he was and what he was doing when the switch in his brain just
clicked and he had this really, really important moment.
And I find that almost more interesting.
They often say if you can't solve a problem or you can't remember something,
walk through a doorway.
And sometimes the act of walking into a new room can reset your brain.
Maybe that's what happened here.
But anyway, those are famous examples.
There can also be personal examples.
Yes.
I remember I had this guy I met on a holiday.
And we were trekking through the mountains, so we had a lot of conversations.
And one thing that was distinctive about him was he would not consume sugar, anything that had sugar in it.
He wouldn't have because he was very strict in his diet and very health conscious.
And I asked him, how did you get off?
sugar and he told me I just stopped eating it, you know, I went through some suffering and being
really strict and my body really craved it. But I said, no, I'm going to be strong. And he said,
he remembered this moment where he was standing in the hallway of his house next to a staircase.
He remembers where he was standing, what he was doing, when suddenly he just realized his body
just said to him, I don't crave sugar anymore. I don't need sugar. You're okay now. The craving
stopped immediately and he's never, ever had sugar since. And he said, I don't know why, but I just
remember that moment. I just remember something in my body switched like a, like a switch inside me. And I just
I remember it vividly. Yeah, yeah. I remember the moment when I was standing in a bar with a whole
group of friends and my now wife, Kylie, was there. And we had become good friends, and worked together
a lot. But, you know, I just saw her as a friend who was probably, you know, way too beautiful and
amazing for someone like me to consider ever being with. And looking across the room and she
was just looking at me with this look in her eyes. I think she was giving me her special eyes,
her secret weapon. And I remember looking across and seeing her, like, sitting in this chair.
And I remember where I was standing and where she was sitting and what was going on. And she was
looking at me. And I was like, hang on a second. I could be in there. And I still remember
the moment. Like, I remember the exact moment. So I've had that moment in my life. I remember
asking, I asked Kylie last night, has she ever had a moment like that hoping that she would tell me
It was when I was in the bar looking across at Brady, but that wasn't her moment.
Her moment was riding on a bus when she was in university at Sheffield,
learning to become a journalist.
And suddenly she realized, I can do shorthand.
She'd been learning shorthand and, you know, was struggling with it like you do when you're learning something.
And suddenly she said it was like the matrix.
I looked out the bus window and all the text on the buildings and all the text I could see
suddenly turned into shorthand.
And it was like, it was like suddenly, I know shorthand.
Like, I know Kung Fu.
That's great.
Yeah.
So that was her moment of like, I've done a lot of talking, man.
You go, have you got one?
Oh, well, I was just thinking about that's a lovely moment.
It's like crossing the Rubicon of realizing I know this now, you know, of, I always think
about people who learn a new language.
And at what point do they move from saying, I'm learning French to, I know French?
Yeah.
You know, when does that moment happen, you know?
Yeah.
Have you got anything?
I do.
Yeah.
There's a few that have been coming.
to mind while you've been talking. I'll start with the most clear one to me, which is also with
my wife. I remember the exact moment when I decided that I wanted to marry her. And in that
moment, I asked her to marry me. Right. So it was, and we were sitting on a particular
bench. It was like a wooden, you know, just a, a wooden bench, but quite, quite rustically
cut, like just a chainsawed couple of, you know, pieces of wood that.
there on a bench. Was it outdoors or was it like a park bench? Outdoors, yeah. It was at the college
I was working at and she was there as a postgrad student and I met her in the cafe and said,
oh, can we go outside and talk for a minute? And we ended up going outside and sitting down and
I was effectively apologising for the fact that our relationship had kind of come to an end and
the mistakes I'd made and all the rest of it. And then we were talking a little bit more. And then
I suddenly realized I wanted to marry her. And so why didn't I just ask her to marry me? And it just
I can remember exactly where we're sitting and I'm looking at this particular quite plain tree
next to us and that moment was right there. In fact, it's such a significant bench to us at that
moment that years later when I knew the college was having like a reunion and then moving off
from that campus, I went and found that bench and ripped off a piece of like wood from it and
I've got that piece of wood at home from that very bench that we sat on years before.
You should have tried to get the whole bench. That would have been even better or was that not an option?
Not really, no. I mean, it's like a big,
like half a trunk of a, of a, you know, bench outside.
I couldn't get it on the plane and take it home.
But, yeah, I ripped a piece of wood off it.
Where do you keep that piece of wood?
I'm pretty sure it's on our shelf at home.
If it's not, then it's in my stuff with all the other kind of, you know,
stuff that I've collected between you and I over the years.
Yeah, all your Brady mementos.
It's in the chest with all your Brady mementos.
All the benches that you and I sat on over the years.
After all your failed proposals to me, you thought you better try your wife.
That's not.
That's good.
I'll tell you what, man, as far as conversations to apologise for a breakup go, that was a mega fail, ending it with a proposal.
I know.
That was about 25 years ago.
So, yeah, no, that was, I just, it suddenly hit me in the conversation.
And so I just said, yeah, so, you know, here we go.
Did she say yes then and there, or did she go away and have a bit of a think?
Oh, she didn't. Because we'd been together and apart a bit, she was very much more mature than me.
And she was like, okay, okay. And then called me back the next day and told me, yes. Yep.
But I felt like a legend having just asked it. Like having come, it was almost like it didn't, it's not that it didn't matter what she said. I really, really wanted to say yes. But there was the epiphany was like the moment of, I do want to do this. I do want to do this. You know what I mean? And it's like, wow, here we go. Yeah.
Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Good work.
All right.
It would be interesting to be able to remember a few of these
where you've made a big decision in life or realized something,
but you've since forgotten when you made it.
Like things that you decided in retrospect,
like do you remember a particular moment when you decided to be a journalist?
Or does it feel like you've always wanted to be a journalist?
That was always, there was no moment for that.
Because it was, I think because my dad was a journalist,
and even when I was a little boy in primary school,
I would say, I want to be a journalist.
I imagine there's a slow.
degree of, you know, my personal preferences with wanting to be like your dad and not knowing
any better, things like that. So for me, wanting to be a journalist didn't have a moment.
And I guess there were moments later on when I became a journalist where I maybe thought,
actually, you know, I'm good at this. This is my thing. Like, I do remember later on, like,
the first few years when you're a cadet, I'm just like doing it, doing what you've got to do
and sometimes feeling out of my depth and sometimes enjoying it and that. But later on, when I was
more established, I do remember sort of not specific,
moments, but general moments where I suddenly felt like I got my stride and like, actually,
I'm one of the good ones at this. I'm like, I'm doing good stuff and, and earning the respect
of like the senior guys there and them looking at me like one of their peers. Like I noticed that
switch happen where I went from some guy that they're always correcting and telling what to do to
being someone they were listening to and saying, what have you got? That's good, you know,
becoming a go-to guy. I remember that transition. But again, I don't remember like a specific
a specific moment, which is what I'm trying to identify with this idea, those like, those moments
where you were standing, what you were doing, what you were wearing. And a bit like my guy with
the sugar and Kylie's with the shorthand, I love the idea of them being like unrelated as well,
being you were doing something else. You weren't even looking for that moment and the moment
just came to you. And you're like, oh wow, it just happened. Why did it happen then?
In my line of work, of course, I end up having lots of conversations with people.
who have a moment of like an epiphany of, I believe, or...
Yes, I can imagine, yeah.
I imagine it happens a lot in religion, yeah.
Yeah, of suddenly it's there.
And likewise, I've also heard stories of people who they just realize at a moment
when it's like, no, this doesn't ring true for me anymore.
You know what I mean?
When actually it stops, or it stops in a particular church.
I know you had a religious upbringing and, you know, your parents were Christian
from when you were born. Do you remember a moment when your faith and your belief, like,
almost became your own? It wasn't just like something you did because you were told it was real
and it became, no, I believe this now. Like, I can see, I see it as real. Yeah, there's a couple of
moments. The one that really stands out is I remember being on a camp up in the hills here and, like,
a youth group camp and just being off on my own and reading my Bible and, but actually wanting to
to read my Bible. Like, it's not like, oh, you read your Bible. It's around the place or here we are.
And, you know, it's just all so familiar to be almost sometimes banal or forgettable or wrote.
And I just remember on one go, hang on a second. This is, you know, hang on, hang on, I really want to know this.
And then, you know what I mean? Suddenly devouring it and reading it, like, suddenly it was jumping off the page at me,
reading through the book of Romans in the New Testament. And that triggered a few years there where I was like,
I'm really into this.
Like, this is great.
Yeah.
And to the point where I'm like arguing with my parents,
because I have slightly different views over things, you know,
like deliberately differing from them.
So, yeah, I remember that moment.
I remember sitting on that particular hill at that campsite.
The great thing is I've since taken my girls to that campsite for school camps and stuff,
like, you know, years and years later, like, maybe 40 years later.
And it's just like, hey, there we go.
That's the spot.
Does the hill have a name?
No, it's just the side from where.
where a building goes down onto an oval kind of area, you know?
Okay.
And you're going to ask,
oh, couldn't you dig up that hill and take it home?
You should at least take a rock from it and put it in your chest of Brady mementos.
I'm trying to think if there was a particular moment when I realized that, like,
I was the funniest out of us.
Like,
Like, hey, there we go.
I think I'm the funniest.
Or was there a moment when you realized, like, hang on, I do.
All right.
Do you like my podcast idea?
I think you do.
Oh, brilliant idea.
Yeah, you know, it's a really great idea.
In fact, it's such an obvious idea.
It feels like it's, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can you tell me the moment when, you.
you realize this idea, when this idea came to you, like an epiphany?
What made me think of this? I think it was something to do with thinking about Isaac Newton
and the Apple. I was a few days ago. I was doing something a few days ago. And I think I read
something about the Apple. I was really, I think it was related to that. Which is the Apple thing,
by the way, which a lot of people think is probably not a true story, is a true story. And I made
an objectivity video about it. And I will, if I remember, I will put a link in the note so people can
watch. There is like, there is documentary evidence, not from Newton himself, but from a friend of
Newton who lived at the same time as him, who recalled like going for a walk in the garden with
Newton and Newton pointing at the tree, which is still there, by the way, and saying, oh,
Newton's saying, oh, it was actually, I saw an apple falling from that tree the other day,
and that's when I thought of this. So Newton, like, recounted the story contemporaneously.
Knowing you, you've probably got the apple down at the Royal Society where you filmed all your
magical stuff. Unbelievable.
have held like bits of wood from the tree and I have held a piece of wood from the tree that was then
flown in space which is a pretty cool object. I have seen that tree come up on social media.
This is the tree that Isaac Newton. So that's true is it. There is a tree. Yep. Walsthorpe
Manor. And there are also trees all around the UK that have been grown from like cuttings and
clippings and seeds and stuff that came from that tree. There are there are numerous examples of them
And all of them have absolutely unimpeachable documentary evidence that they came from that tree.
And yet they are all different species of apple tree.
So, so, uh, so something's going on.
Something's going on.
Yes, indeed.
Would you like to do Spoon of the Week?
I would.
I have a lovely spoon.
Play the music.
Okay.
Spoon!
Our spoon tonight, Brady, comes from an area of town for which you are very familiar.
Port Adelaide in South Australia.
Yes.
This is a very famous lighthouse, a red lighthouse at Port Adelaide,
which is a port part of our city, Adelaide, as you can, as the name suggests.
Essentially, it is a suburb of Adelaide, but it is also where the port is and the ship's dock.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, sort of the northern part of the coastline in from which Adelaide is situated.
Really quite lovely.
I don't go out to Port Adelaide very often, but there is a lovely little Dutch cafe there.
and so I go out there and have a lovely little Dutch lunch
with some nice coffee from time to time,
take the dog or something like that.
It's definitely being a, what's the word?
Is it gentrified?
It definitely, it used to be like a scummy part of town
and now it's like, you know, money's coming into it
and there's lots of nice cafes and everything's being spruced up
and now it's all historic and it's like a nice place to go and visit
and look at things now.
It's like, it's definitely undergone a transformation over the last decade or two.
Oh, no, no, definitely.
And it's got, you know, you can imagine a port.
There's these lovely old buildings and they've all been converted into some nice cafes and restaurants and
apartments and all that kind of stuff.
So if you're into that, that's great.
Tell us about the spoon.
That's what.
Spoon's even more beautiful than the port.
It's amazing. It's a figure eight spoon, the top circle of which is a beautiful, albeit faded, sort of rendering, drawing.
Enamelling.
I think that's an enameling.
picture at the top. Tim's talking about the handle here, which normally the handle of the spoon,
will have like one disc, which will have something ornate in it. This has got like two discs
on top of each other. And one of the discs contains the enamel representation of the Port Hadley
Lighthouse. That's right. This is, yeah, a figure eight or a one fat lady if you're playing
bingo at home. Right, right. I don't know if that's politically allowed anymore to say something
like that. I don't know.
This, I wouldn't.
We're being historic here today with Port Adelaide, so I think we'll get away with it.
So we've got the Port Adelaide lighthouse, this big red lighthouse, which is kind of the
central icon of Port Adelaide.
It's like the, you know, you get to the end of Port Road and you see that big
lighthouse, don't you, next to the Port River?
I think it's the only icon of Port Adelaide, really.
Like, you wouldn't know any other photo was Port Adelaide unless it had that in there.
Well, and that Dutch cafe is pretty famous, but other than that, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
What's in the second circle?
the bottom portion of the fat lady.
Well, then it's got a little beautiful little metal figure of South Australia,
the state itself.
The outline of the state.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's hanging like a little charm or key ring piece inside the second circle,
which is very clever.
Dangling.
It's just that the circle is hollowed out.
And this little mini South Australia state dangles there in the circle.
It's almost like the spoon has its own.
earring. That's what it looks like.
It does. Very nice.
And this was from the Hine collection, but, you know, it's from Adelaide.
So your dad could have picked it up any time on a trip down to bought Adelaide.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I mean, we did quite a few trips to Adelaide or Dad may have bought it
because it's quite old, although now I'm quite old. It could be from my childhood,
but I do think it goes back further. So it may be from when dad first immigrated here in the
1950s. It's silver-plated, it says, on the back. It's got some lovely ornate branding on the
back, charmed, I think is what the brand of company who made the spoon is.
Okay.
Charmed.
Okay, man.
Nice spoon.
Thank you for sharing.
I'm guessing my dad docked at poor Adelaide when he moved to South Australia as a boy
because he did sail to Adelaide when he first came to Australia.
Oh, right.
As sort of a teenage boy.
So he probably would have arrived in Adelaide at poor Adelaide.
I know my father when he came from the Netherlands.
I don't know if you know this or not my father's Dutch.
And he came into Melbourne and then they caught the train over to Adelaide.
So I know he didn't dock there.
He didn't come into the port.
No.
No.
There we go.
Also, just a quick prize for one of our Patreon supporters.
I've randomly chosen one of our supporters from the list.
I haven't chosen it.
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And that is,
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but I don't want to post you a bunch of things
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I heard you say my name on the episode
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This podcast idea is called
the worst museums in the world.
Okay.
Yeah, I like it.
And this is a bit of a tribute to the kinds of museums
that you find in certain, I guess, country towns have a lot of them,
where often a museum is created in the corner of another show.
right?
Yeah.
And it's a museum, obviously, usually of local history and the local area and Mementos,
a museum of the local.
Now, that is an appropriate use of, you know, the corner of a shop into a small museum
by a local historical society or a very eager shop owner who just happens to have a few
black and white photos.
Yeah.
I think a better example is when the museum has nothing to do with us.
either the shop or the town the town it's in.
I love those, though.
It's just the passion of an individual who's just into like, yeah, collecting marble.
So he creates a little marble museum or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, those, they are awesome.
This is going to be a hard sell for me because I have a great affection for almost any museum or collection.
And like, so I like almost all of them.
So calling it the worst museum in the world, like, you know, is a good, provocative name that work.
but I don't know, man, I'm not willing to diss any of these museums.
I love them.
I love all these weird collections people have.
Well, I think that's kind of partly the point.
And part of the reason is those museums are really charming.
And real museums, like new modern big whizbangs, are often, I find these days awful.
Like, they're awful.
They're this big piece of postmodern architecture with hardly anything in them.
And a massive shop at the front and a cafe.
and then, you know what I mean?
Things that aren't really interesting to look at at all.
And they become completely focused on like interactive exhibits
and things where you can press buttons
and kids can play with stuff and that.
I don't want that.
I want to see like Toot and Carmen behind a glass screen.
Hmm. Yeah, yeah.
Old stuff.
Dusty stuff.
I want the stuff to be so amazing
that you would never let a kid touch it.
Mm.
Mm.
Yeah.
That's right.
Yeah.
Admittedly, now that I have.
a four-year-old boy, I do have some appreciation for going into a place where he can be entertained
and not bored. So, like, my perception of that has been skewed a little bit because I just
desperately need to keep him entertained and he can't bear to walk around a museum where I'm
just reading. But that is, that is easily catered for with a table and a bit of coloring in.
Seriously, an outline of a pyramid. No, you know what it is, man? This is where the difference
between someone who has girls and someone who has boys really shows themselves.
Right.
Because the number of times we've gone to friends' houses who have little girls
and the girls will just sit at the table and colour in for hours.
And we just look with such envious eyes at that.
Because there is no way you could put Edward with a pencil and a piece of paper
and ask him to colour in and expect him to do it for more than 40 seconds
before he wants to go and kick something or play with a bowl or run around
or do something that is like crazy.
Little girls' ability to colour in for hours is a superpower,
and you should be very, very grateful that you had two girls for that reason.
Yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
I take your point.
I take your point.
Nevertheless, we don't have to totally deconstruct our museums into childcare centres
in order to be able to appreciate history, right?
Yes, I know, I know, man.
I'm just saying in this like two or three-year window,
I'm happy it happens, but before I never liked it, and afterwards I won't like it. At the moment,
I'm all right with it. But yeah, I agree. I like a, I like a museum to be about old precious stuff,
not interactive exhibits and things you can jump on and play with. But tell me about some bad
museums or tell me about some museums that will qualify for this podcast that you're suggesting.
Oh, well, the top of the list is a, the chemist that I may have mentioned to you before in Adelaide.
This is like a pharmacy when you say a chemist.
A pharmacy, that's a drugstore.
That's right.
A place where you go with your prescription from the doctor to be given medicine,
but also buy other knickknacks that are all crowded around the cash area as well.
In Adelaide, there's one.
And you remember I've talked about it before that he's had a shop.
So he's used half of his pharmacy chemist for selling secondhand furniture.
So you'd walk in with your prescription late at night and a screaming kid who's sick at home.
and you'd walk past five, you know, dining chairs that's missing the sixth one,
and they've got a sign on it that says $10 and all that kind of stuff.
Legendary place.
So that place has recently had an overhaul.
In fact, I think it's got a whole new owner, and it's really quite amazing.
And all of the old secondhand furniture and old poker machine and cash registers
and secondhand clothes and everything like that's been taken out.
And it's been totally redesigned into a...
It's still a pharmacy, right?
It's still a chemist pharmacy.
Right.
But it's also now a cricket museum.
Right.
Which...
This is for the sport of cricket, not the insect.
No, indeed.
Yeah, right.
No, indeed.
Yeah.
It's unbelievable.
Is it good stuff?
Has it got like, you know, Don Bradman's original bat and stuff?
Or is it more like low-end exhibits?
No, it seems to have a combination of sort of merchandising crap, like stuff for,
from three summers ago that you could have got with a can of Coke,
you know, that kind of free hat.
But then it also has loads of bats and like Glenn McGrath's, you know,
ball that he bowled with on his 500th wicket and, you know,
all this kind of stuff.
There's loads and loads and loads of it.
And you know that there's something about the game of cricket,
which just seems to produce merchandise.
There's so many stumps and balls.
I'm sure it's like baseball as well.
Yeah, yeah.
It's almost like the game exists just to pump out.
stuff into the auction houses.
Well, this guy has vacuumed all that stuff up and brought it down to his chemist pharmacy
and walled off half of it and put in some display cabinets.
Is it monetised in any way?
Like, you don't have to pay to look at it and you can't buy the stuff.
He's just showing off his collection that he's proud of.
Yes, it's a museum.
Yeah, it's not a shop.
But you don't pay to go in it or anything.
Like, you know, you just see it when you walk into the pharmacy.
You do have to pay to buy, like, all.
like, you know, the creams and the tablets and medication, all that kind of stuff.
And the cricket stuff isn't covered by Medicare or anything like that.
But it's just there to look amazing.
It's almost like he's a pharmacist.
And so it's almost like he just wants to look at his own cricket stuff all day long or keep an eye on it maybe.
And so he's just decided to dedicate it must be at least half or more than half of the pharmacy is given over to this massive cricket museum.
It's unbelievable.
I appreciate it.
and I look forward to seeing it next time
and I'm in Adelaide.
What is it about this particular pharmacy
that has resulted in both owners
using half of their floor space
for an almost unrelated activity?
Like, I've never been into a pharmacy where this happens,
but this particular one,
like presumably you could have used this extra floor space
to sell more creams and toothpaste and stuff like that.
Yeah, yeah.
Is there like a massive surplus of space
or is the place where all the medicines and the creams
are quite confined?
feel like it could have spread out? It's quite a large room. So, so there is spare space.
And yeah, so they seem to be making use of it in this way. It's just like in my mind of
pharmacy is like an extension of medical practice, right? It's like, you know what I mean?
Like, you don't have a hospital slash bar, right? Like, it's a hospital. So therefore it's a
hospital. And so you don't have like the doctor and a dry cleaner.
Like, it's a doctor.
So it's just bizarre that this place, which is an extension of the medical world,
also has this other random, it's like a combining of the spiritual and the secular
into, you know what I mean?
It doesn't make any sense at all.
I was just going to say, it's like we put it in indoor cricket, you know,
facility or indoor baseball or basketball court into the church.
And then I suddenly realized we do actually just have a hall here,
which is where sport is played all day long in our hall.
But it's so awesome.
Do you ever go and browse it?
Like when you've gone to pick up some cough medicine,
do you ever go and just look at the cricket stuff?
Or is it just something you're aware of as you walk in and out?
Or have you gone and had a proper browse?
I've had a proper browse.
It's not our usual pharmacy.
It's not our local.
It's not where our guy is and all the rest of it.
So we're not in there all the time.
Right.
But if I'm near it, over there near it and so forth,
I have gone in a couple of times just to have a look around.
He has a lot of stuff, like hundreds and hundreds of pieces.
Have you asked?
Have you asked what's going on here?
Why have you got all this gear?
Because you're the sort of guy that would have a chat and ask.
Has he ever been there and you've said, what's going on here, man?
No, no.
There's several stuff.
I don't know who the main person is.
I have not asked, no, but I will.
Yeah.
So that's what this podcast would be about.
It would be about asking, saying, why have you done this?
What's with your museum?
When did you start this collection?
Did you want to do a museum and then go looking for a collection?
Did you just happen to have this stuff?
How do you get new things?
All that kind of stuff.
I would, if I was like, if we were workshopping this idea, which I like as an idea, of course I do.
You know, I make objectivity videos. I go and visit these places all the time. But I would lean more
towards like, yeah, emphasising collections rather than museums. So you can, so you can also
encompass people who have like amazing collections but haven't turned it into a museum. Someone who
just in their house has like, you know, a thousand spoons or, you know, cigarette lighters or
I would focus more on collectors and collections rather than museums,
but I do really like the spirit of this idea.
Like, you know, it really tickles my brain.
The reason I like it as a museum is because a museum is an institution.
Like, it's a place and a thing with a title and a name.
True.
You know?
True.
And so this guy has, like, the other thing he's done is he's on,
like the outside of the pharmacy now is just murals of cricket players.
So it's Setschen Tendulka and Shane Worn and Ricky Ponting and all that kind of stuff.
Painted on the bricks.
Of it's a pharmacy.
Which is, it's awesome, but it's just amazing.
I do hear you.
And there is something funny about the kind of, yeah, the grandioseness of calling something a museum
juxtaposed with kind of sometimes the Mickey Mouseness of it,
if it's done like low key or it's done in a quirky way.
So I also get the museum idea.
I like it.
Good stuff, ma'am.
He also.
has big screen TVs in the windows playing just like randomly old matches, cricket matches all the
time. So that's... I'm getting the impression this guy's pretty big into cricket. He's,
oh, he's, I'm willing to say he's more into cricket that he is into medicine. That's quite
possible. But it is still a pharmacy. It's not like, oh, it's just a little, no, it's a, it's still
a large pharmacy. Maybe there's some like a planning condition on the building that it has to be a pharmacy,
and this guy just wants to open a cricket museum. But he has to run a pharmacy to,
comply with some local laws or something.
The other thing that gives the whole thing charm is the building looks like it's falling down.
Like it still looks like, you know, the concrete's chipped out the front and all that kind of
stuff.
So he's actually made it look at a lot, lot, lot better than it did before.
So in terms of pharmacy slash cricket museums in Adelaide, it's the best.
Best one, yes.
Best one.
Best one in the city.
Yeah.
Best one in the square mile at least.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd go out.
I'd go at a limb and say that.
Well, we are now going to retire to the request room.
which is our little separate show we do for Patreon supporters.
If you become a Patreon supporter, you can not only listen to this request room,
you can go and listen to all the previous ones.
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And we really appreciate your support.
Patreon support is the reason we can do the podcast.
Tim, there are some really interesting questions and requests and challenges for us to tackle.
So let's go and see if we can do a few of them now, shall we?
Let's go.
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Do it.
Do it.
You should.
It's fun.
It's as fun as a cricket museum in a pharmacy.
