The Unmade Podcast - 188: Drive-Thru Podcasting

Episode Date: October 26, 2026

Brady and “The Other One” discuss some anecdotes from Tim, wooden marble karma, some viewer stories, stake-outs, a spoon from from Cairns, drive-thru podcasting, and then some Patreon news.Catch this week’s very special Request Room for some “Tim in England” - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM/posts/173460629Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFMJoin the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/Unmade_Podcast/Catch the podcast on YouTube where we often include accompanying videos and pictures - https://www.youtube.com/@unmadepodcastUSEFUL LINKSGrand Final Photo - https://www.unmade.fm/episode-188-picturesStakeout (the movie) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stakeout_(1987_film)Cairns Spoon - https://www.unmade.fm/episode-188-picturesCairns - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CairnsPictures of Spoon of the Week - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-weekCatch the bonus Request Room episode - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM/posts/173460629

Lovely. All right. We're 40 minutes late, but that's okay. All right. I've got some groceries coming at some point. Can I start by saying there's some really important news and developments involving Patreon? And Patreon's really, really important to our podcast because it's the reason we exist. But the information is only really relevant to patrons and Patreon supporters. And I know, you know, there is a fraction of people who listen to the podcast who are not yet Patreon supporters. That's me. I'm not a patron supporter.

I know you're not, and I'm not happy about that. I felt like I should have won you over by now, but I just can't do it. I'd love to join, but you always feel like you want to communicate with the tribe without my eavesdropping or being unaware. So that's why I've been excluded. That is true. That is one of the ways I spring surprises on you is with the help from the patron. So maybe it's best that you remain a non-supporter. Anyway, that information about the Patreon stuff I'll talk about at the end of

the show and on Patreon itself. So hang around for that, please. But in the meantime, you know, we've got stuff to discuss. We've got parish notices. Can I, I have exciting news then. I have a crazy right up to the minute bit of amazing news and occurrences that happened today. Oh man, I just got a little chill up my spine. I know, I know. I was sitting in this very seat in my office just a few short hours ago today, just working away. And suddenly I saw, oh, there's a lovely lady outside who looks like she's trying to work out where the door is. And so, being the only one in the building today, I went out to the door and said, oh, hello, could I, could I help you? And I was met with a question that I don't get all the time.

Are you Brady? Nice. So I answered, yes, yes, I am. Yes. And then punched her in the face. Tell the police Brady-Harran did that. I'd tell you, no, there's not a day, you know, week or month goes by that an ex-girlfriend isn't looking out for where Brady-Haron is hiding.

But no. Yes. I said, look, no, I'm Tim. Like as if that would, you know, as if she'd go, oh. But she just sort of went, oh, okay. I said Brady's my friend. We do a podcast together. And she goes, oh, yes, right.

Yes, yes. The other one. So that's my identity. The other one. Anyway, she said, I'm here for Wes. And I'm like, wow. This is interesting. Okay.

And the story came out. This is a friend of a Wes in Switzerland. Right. Who's, when she said that she was coming to Adelaide for a wedding, said, oh, you must go to Melbourne Uniting Church. And she said, and he gave me a whole bunch of references like the sofa shop and Brady and, you know, all these sort of words, the black stump that I have to search down and investigate. But she didn't have them written down or anything. She was just like trying to recall them on the spot. That's right. She was kind of holding.

the Unmade Podcast Law in her mind without really understanding how it all comes together. But she's a good enough friend of this person that she's like, I suddenly realized I wasn't very far away from, you know, ground zero of the Unmade Podcast in Australia. And so I've come wandering past and she said, and yeah, so here I am. And I said, wow, let me show you something.

And I took her into my office, took it to the shelf. and said, behold. And she was a little bit, what am I looking at here? And this is the shelf behind me where I've got, I mean, I've got, you know, one of kind of everything that we've produced

and put out into the year. Yeah. It's like a mini museum. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's all sorts of things there. And I picked up the tape and said, look, it's a sofa shop tape. And she's like...

The mixed tape, yeah. So I then have. had to give the background as to the sofa shop. She knew the sofa shop because she did actually grow up herself in Adelaide, which is I think why this has got a little bit of resonance with her that she's willing to follow through. Okay. But I love that she went to the trouble of coming to Malvin Uniting Church.

Like, you know, she's followed through for her friend, but not bothered to do any preparation about what she needed to say to you or who you were or who I was or anything. It was just, like she's done half the job really, like surprisingly, diligently and then just completely drop the bowl for the second part. She did say that she had like she said, I understand that

like Brady's mechanic was surprised onto him as a guest and I said oh, oh right and I started to explain car salesman, yeah. That's right about the story of the car salesman and Charlie Carbone and what a legend he was and how I met him once and 30 years later

and all the way. And she goes, yes, yes, yes. No, I've I've heard that episode, right? And I was like, oh, okay, okay, there you go. Yeah, there. So she has committed herself to one episode. Okay. But we had a marvelous conversation, and it was really, really fantastic, and it was really lovely.

And I was just thinking, what a blessing, not just to have a sort of like, what would you call it? It's not a person, but a person by extension. Two people removed fan come to visit, but of a Wes, too. I mean, that's like a golden ticket, you know, for. Willie Wonka's factory. I mean, I think, you know how you get like Erdos numbers if you understand mathematics or you would know Kevin Bacon numbers, how far you are removed from Kevin Bacon?

Like, if you've been in a film with Kevin Bacon, or you've been in a film with someone who's been in a film, or you've been in a film, or you've been in a film with someone who's been in a film, you know the story. Yep, yep. Maybe we need that. We need six degrees of Wes. Like, how far removed are you from a Wes who listens to the Unmade Podcast? So she's like, she's like, yeah.

I mean, I would assume the whole world. is like seven people removed from a Wes somewhere, surely. No, it has to be a Wes who listens to the unmade. Yeah. Oh, okay, okay, yeah. But we are certainly Wes super spreaders in that sense, aren't we? Like, where the... We are.

What's a better analogy? Like, we're like, you know, the station where all the Weses come to connect and then connect. Yeah, we're like the kernel around which they kind of, or we're like the Queen Bees. Or the colonel, I like the sound of that. That's good. That kernel? Yeah, okay.

Yeah. Yeah. So there we go. So that was a lovely vicarious encounter with a Wes today from Switzerland via his. It was good. It was meeting with a fan who's not a fan. Mm-hmm. Yes.

Yes. I said, sadly, Auntie Dawn isn't here like Mrs. Hein. And she just goes, yeah, without really knowing what that meant. And I sort of said. Oh, that's my mum. She's also talked about. And whenever people come, they want to visit, they want to get a photo with her. And she's like, oh, that's really, really lovely.

Yeah. I've told this story before, but it does remind me a bit of when I was at this math festival. And they set me up with a table, like, where I could, like, sign things and meet people who watch number file. So when the time came, this sort of queue formed, and people were, like, queuing up to say, oh, watch your videos. And, you know, obviously, I was in an environment where there would be lots of number file viewers, you know.

This wouldn't happen to me at other places. But anyway, there was a cue of people. No. No. Anyway. With normal people. No. Anyway. So, you know, meeting all these people.

And then finally, this parent comes up to me. And I think she was with a daughter or one kid or maybe two kids. And it was her turn. And I said, hello, how are you? I'm Brady. And she said, so who are you? And I said, I'm Brady. I make these number file videos.

And she goes, all right. And like, tell us about them. And then I sort of had to say to her, there's this big queue here and you've been waiting in this queue for like 25, 30 minutes. Like, but you don't know anything about number five. And she said, no, but we saw this big queue. So we thought it must be something interesting and important. And they just stood there and queued and they got to me.

And I had to explain to them what I did and who I was. And they went, oh, that sounds good. Okay. And then she says to this little girl who's been waiting there, do you want to have your picture taken with the man and stuff? And she's like, oh, yeah, okay. She both loved posts. And then went away.

and had absolutely no idea who I was or what I did or anything like that. And I think that's a bit of what this woman was for you today. She was your cueing number file non-fan. Interesting to I know from this particular person, whether they, in retrospect, happy, like if they thought you were queue-worthy, like if they had known it was you in context of who you are, would they have again, you know, the opportunity came up weighted in the queue? Or do they actually feel like, oh, it's a bit underwhelming, you know what I mean?

Maybe it was the same woman you met today. Imagine being let down that twice in your life like that. By both hosts. Goes to the other end of the world. Or maybe like I made such an impression on her all those years ago. That's why she thought you were Brady. Like Brady's just stuck in her head. It's like, no.

And so she said, yeah, you're the other one. Right. Oh, right. Suddenly I feel like I'm in Wham and one of us is George Michael and one of us is the other one, you know, that no one knows their name. That's the first time I've ever been compared with George Michael. Did she have a picture taken with you at the end, or did you give her a piece of merch or anything,

or how did you end to the interaction? Did you bring her heart to the Lord? That's right. Yes. No, I sold her she was always welcome on Sunday. That's really great. She did get a photo, but she didn't ask to be in the photo. So it wasn't like a selfie.

She just took a photo of me with my shelf. I think for her friend. I mean, maybe she'll, you know, keep a copy for herself. I mean, who knows. New screensaver. She didn't ask for anything signed or anything specific or anything like that. Would you have signed a Brady or Tim? Well, I know.

I would have had to go with Tim. That cat was out of the bag. It does give me a lovely idea about how long, like if I was genuinely misunderstood as a Brady, how long I could get away with it, particularly if I was in one of the environments you were describing earlier. Like I was at a maths convention or something like that or a space convention. And I just got to be Brady walking around and answering people's questions and stuff

and just doing untold damage to your reputation. That would be fantastic. It's like the Prince and the pauper, you know, that swap jobs for a week or a month or something like that. And, you know. Did you go home and brag to your wife and girls and say, hey, guess what happened today? someone who didn't know who I was and doesn't listen to the podcast said hello to me. That's right. Today I met a non-fan.

Yeah, that's right. I didn't know if there was anything less, like, you know, than an occasional listener. You know what I mean? There's like patron supporters. And there's people that listen regularly, but then there are people who just sort of, you know, listen every now and then. Then there are people that don't listen. Yes. There's quite a lot of those.

Yeah. And this person sits somewhere in between people who never listen and very, very, occasional listeners. That's right. That's right. Look, I went home, but only one of my daughters was a home. And we, and so I was one of those little stories where, like, when we have stories, you know, we like to have the full gang together for like a bigger audience and so forth

to tell fun stories. Because otherwise people feel like they've missed out on a cool story that's happened during the day. So we have a sense of, you know, sometimes people just have to tell the story, but there's also this sense of, oh, no, no, wait, I want to tell you when, when everyone's here, you know. Yep. So are you saving that one then for the family?

They haven't heard it yet or? That's right. That's right. I'll be telling them tonight when we're all home together. Yeah, yeah. I have two stories actually from today. Do you want to hear my other story? Do I have to?

Did you meet someone else who doesn't listen to the podcast? Well, this one's not quite as exciting. It happens a little bit more common. Someone just came up and said, are you Brad Pitt? And I went a wow. I say, wow. No, I'm the other one.

No, this was a situation at the petrol pump where a service station, I went to buy petrol, and we've got this big car. And petrol's, you know, of course, so expensive at the moment. And so it was like 180 Australian dollars, which is just ridiculous to feel like your car in petrol. Steep. Yeah. It's almost half the price I paid for my first car, right? Yeah.

May she rest in peace, the Renault. The Renault. So anyway, having filled it up, I went inside and I thought I'd make a little joke to the man behind the counter about the priced. And I said, oh, I'm here to take out a mortgage to pay for my petrol. Nice. Third person in a row that had made that joke. Yeah, very good. I see, yes.

No, that's good. It is very expensive. And meanwhile, I'm getting my phone out to pay and all the rest of it. And then there's this deal where if you're like, there's the RAA, which is like this special insurance. It's kind of like an insurance company, the roadside. assistant special membership in Adelaide. You'll know Brady what I'm talking about. They'll come out.

If your car breaks down, they'll come out and help you. They're like an automobile association. So there's this lovely deal on at the moment where if you happen to be a member of that, you get 5% off at some of the service stations off your petrol. So I'm halfway through just paying for my petrol and I'm about to do it. And the guy goes, are you an RAA member? And I just sort of was, you know, so lost in my own hilarious joke that I go, ah, nah, nah, beep.

And then I just suddenly went, Yes, we are. And I just suddenly went, yes, we are, actually, whoops. But the beep, you know, the money had gone through. Gone. And the guy just looked at me like my dog had died. He goes, oh, I'm so sorry. Oh, man.

Oh, buddy. It was like this moment of utter desperation. And I was, it was like, oh, that's annoying. Silly me. I literally waved away a discount. Ten bucks. But then I was just so moved by his passion for me. You know, his sorrow.

I was like, no. So he was a lovely, lovely, lovely guy. Well done. And then I walked out and got in the car. So that was my second story. Wow, man. I didn't think you could have a story more boring than the first one, but you did. Anyway, that's all we've got time for today, people.

It was funny when it happens. Now say it out loud. You know, I don't think that one will get an airing later this evening. No, I'm no sure I'll go for that one, man. like to apologise to everyone on the program, the thousands of people that have had to sit through instead of my family. Thousands of people just took a bullet for the sake of your wife and two girls that now don't have to listen to that story. You're testing your material on the unmade podcast audience so you can decide what's going to work at home over dinner tonight.

Am I? That's right. That's what the unmade podcast is for. Trialing material for my family. We just test our material here. Should I tell Kylie this tonight? I don't know. Let's do it out on the Unmade podcast and see how it goes down. It's so funny. Early on, I used to trial stories for the Unmade Podcasts with my family.

But things have become so precarious. Yeah, it's like, well, you know, let me just trial this. Maybe I could talk through, you know, difficult conversations with my wife as well and just test them and see how things go. Yeah, yeah. You do it, man. Do it, yeah. Quick shout out to Luke from Canada,

who also wrote a rather long and shaggy dog story email that I'm not going to read on the podcast, but it is to do with how he became a fan of AFL football. And as a result, he attended the most recent AFL grand final. This is like Australia's Super Bowl. This is a really big deal. He somehow found himself at the big game, which was a classic game too, one of the great grand finals, by all accounts. And he took along his phone and we have a picture of him at the MCG,

the Melbourne cricket ground, the mighty stadium where the game is played every year, and he's holding his phone playing an unmade podcast episode at the AFL grand final. Kudos for that, my friend. Kudos. Fantastic. Wonderful. Well, well, and so do you get the feeling that he's a regular listener, or this was like a new experience for him? No, no, I think he's a regular listener.

Oh, yeah, he's up to 186 episode. So assuming he started at the beginning, so, yeah. I think he's a proper, he's a proper civilian. I don't know if he's a stakeholder, but anyway, he went to the AFL grand final and he took a picture of his phone playing the podcast. And we love pictures of you listening to our podcast in famous or interesting places. So continue sending them and see if you can top Luke's incredible effort. If anyone else was at the grand final and you took a photo of the same event,

of course you wouldn't have thought to take a photo of yourself holding the unmade podcast, but just if you happen to have been there and you've got your own photo, I'd be interested to know how many people, 100,000 people got together for the grand final. I wonder how many people are there listen to the Unmade podcast. Let us know. Let us know if we were there. We know there was one listener there in the 100,000 people in the crowd. If you were at the AFL grand final, yeah, yeah, let us know.

Were you at the grand final, Brisbane versus Fremantle, along with Luke? I've got a story, Tim, and this is my shaggy dog story from the week that's just gone. but it does link back to the podcast. Right. Do you remember I pitched a podcast idea called, I think it was, might have been unsung heroes. And it was about people that have done heroic things for you, but you don't know who they were, right?

And the example I gave was I was on a holiday in the Alps in Europe and they have these big long marble runs, these big oversized marble runs that you drop wooden balls into that are like almost the size of a tennis bowl. And they go rolling down the mountain. inside and ding-dong and do all the things you do in a marble run. And we went up this mountain where there was virtually no people, Kylie and I and Little Edward. And when we got to the marble run, there was like a vending machine to buy the wooden bowl

and we didn't have any money and we couldn't get a wooden ball to put in the marble run. And this is obviously a big problem when you've got a little boy who wants to play on the marble run and you just can't get him a ball. Yeah. And then I told the story of this woman who came over the ridge and with a child and she, She was able to help us get money and get a bowl and play on the marble run. And she, like, saved the day. And I never found out her name or who she was.

But she was my hero. And then she disappeared into the mountains. And I told this story. Hmm, this angel. Yes. Yes, an angel. So anyway, this week just gone, we went to a place in Cornwall in England called the Eden Project that's installed all these marble runs across this huge botanical garden type property.

And Edward loves a marble run. We looked it up. We wanted to see them. This time I was prepared, of course, and I was told you buy the wooden bowls when you buy your tickets as you go in. And I didn't buy just one bowl. I bought three because I wanted one for everyone and I wanted to be prepared. I'd learnt my lesson. So I bought my tickets, bought my three wooden bowls, and we went in.

And these marble runs are all spread around, almost like stations of the cross is the best way to explain. Yeah. You go and you do one and play on it and go, that was nice. Then you walk another hundred metres and you get to another one and you play on that one too as you experience the whole. property. Anyway, we were doing this and going along and having a great old time and then we got to one and this other family walked up. I think they had two children, a boy and a girl and they walked up and they saw us playing on the marble run and they didn't have a bowl and they didn't know how to get a ball. They hadn't been prepared and they're like, oh look, look, kiddies, doesn't

this look fun? Let's watch this boy playing on the marble run and the children kind of looked on with envious eyes and then I sort of saw this was my moment. This was karma. everything had come together and I just lovely pulled a wooden ball out of my pocket and handed it over to the kids and go, there you go, kiddies, you can play, you can have a play too. And they like, their eyes lit up and they could play too and they all had the time of their life and stuff. And then when it was time to leave and move, go our separate ways, I just sort of winked to the kids and said, it's all right, kiddies, you can keep that bowl and go and playing all the other

ones now. So as they moved to all the other stations, they could keep playing. And I felt like, I felt like there was this like, you know, stars aligned moment where, you know, I'd repaid destiny. You got to be the Good Samaritan. Yes. And then as they were leaving, we asked the names of the little children. And the other little boy's name?

Edward. Oh, marvelous. So he was same as my little boy. So not only did I get to repay this little favor of fate, but it was to another little boy with the exact same name. And that felt like one of those moments in a movie where it's like, oh my goodness, he's got the same name. It's like, you know.

Yeah, anyway, I don't know. It felt symbolic to me. Lovely, lovely. What a beautiful moment. Lovely. So you're just carrying them everywhere now, aren't you just handing people? Just in case. Just in case. Just in case. Like a backpack full of them. People that don't want them. What do you do with them? No, no, no. You must have them. Is your name Edward? Yes. There you go. You have, talking about carrying things around with you and being prepared, you have segued to some of our parish notices. Okay. Please go ahead and explain how. All right. So there were two ideas in the last episode.

Tim had one about scars on our body, and I had one about unduly proud moments, moments when you were more proud than you really should have been, but you just were bursting with pride over trivial things. And this has generated a lot of feedback and stories and anecdotes, much more than average. And I can't read them all. I'm sorry, there are too many of them. But I will read some of them, and I will start with an unduly proud story that Tim just reminded me of. and this came from, let me find the right one,

this came from Anna, A-A-A-A, I'm not sure how to pronounce, I'm sorry, A-N-A. Most of my unduly-proud moments come from being absurdly prepared for situations that almost never happen, and you're about to find out, Tim, that Anna here is a very well-prepared person. We don't have children, but once at a skate park with friends who do, one of the boys fell and needed a plaster. I immediately got one from my wallet because I always carry plastic. lasters. Even his parents didn't have any. I was ridiculously proud. Another time we arrived at our apartment in the south of France to discover we had no electricity. It was evening. We were on holiday.

And then I remembered the lamp that I always keep in the car. I pack it for every holiday and have never used it. Finally, its moment had come. And just two days later, after a day in the forest, I discovered a tick on my shoulder at 11pm. I was obviously not happy. about the tick, but I was secretly delighted to finally use the tick removal I always carry and had never needed before. The funniest part is that my partner, who's been there, knows me well enough to see exactly how proud I am, even when I contain myself and say nothing. So perhaps my true unduly proud moment is simply being vindicated about all the completely

unnecessary things I insist on carrying around. Who carries a tick remover? I know. I was about to investigate. When they say always carry, does it mean always carry, you know, when I'm camping or always carry? As in, I'm just heading down to the shops. Have you seen my tick remover? Like, there are lots of really good ones here, man, of these unduly proud moments. For example, Snoopy 1221 says, I am unduly proud of my ability to sense air temperatures. As long as it's between about 20 and 110 degrees Fahrenheit, I can very often guess the temperature very accurately. I've, been called out on it on more than one occasion whenever it happens to come up and I'm invariably off by no more than one degree. Wow. Obviously, this is pointless, but it's the closest thing I have to a superpower. So even though I play it cool, I do feel a bit smug for absolutely no reason. That's a pretty handy skill, I think. That's pretty great. If you can, if it's so accurate, you can rely on it, then that's

awesome. I particularly like this one, man. We've got lots of these. We've got lots of them and, you know, I relate to all of them. I'm sorry I'm not reading them all. But I really like this one because this is like, this captures the essence of what I was looking for. This comes from Kerr Java Kissa. I don't know how to say that. But they say,

I'm unduly proud of the shade of white I chose to paint my corridor with. It was a hard choice. I plan to send a message to ask my husband's opinion on three main options, but I chose to save him from getting frustrated by trying to tell me the difference between three almost identical shades. Now the painter's up on the wall, and I'm really happy with my choice. It is just right.

A little warm, it looks white in every light, not grey or blue, but I can't brag about this to anyone. You just have. Yes, totally, no, I totally relate to that. It is hard, isn't it? The asphalt and the white, the off white, the beige, the off beige, the cream, the off cream. You know, like it's all, you know, but you just get it right and it's, oh, wonderful. that's

Yeah, very good. Remember I told the story about how I was unduly proud that Edward read the word coffee on a sign? He looked at the letters and spelt it out and we didn't know he could read.

John wrote, my first reading in the wild story probably didn't make my parents ungeally proud. I was five and we were in York waiting to go in the Jorvik Center. The Jorvik Center is related to Viking history.

Right. And having looked at the information boards, I asked in front of the entire queue, what does rape and pillage mean? My mum and dad still bring it up 40 years later. Lots of scar stories, Tim. Lots of scar stories. This was your idea.

You thought people would enjoy talking about their scars on their body. You were right. People, there's stories behind our scars. Yeah, absolutely. You were right, man. They've been coming in thick and fast. Alex wrote, and Alex said it's fine to use my name. name and you'll find out why shortly. While it is now faded, I have a six-inch 15-centimeter scar on my

right arm, which often draws questions. Rather embarrassingly, I gave myself a spiral fracture humorous during an epic arm wrestling match after a couple of beers. Can you imagine breaking your arm from arm wrestling? That sounds terrible. Anyway, due to complications healing, I ended up requiring a plate and nine screws to fix it. During this period, I had dozens of appointments and all the NHS staff were totally fabulous. That's the health service in the UK, the NHS. However, I could always tell in the waiting room when my name was about to be called because I would see the nurse pick up my file, see the injury and then read my name

and with a big smile on their face called Mr. Armstrong. Because that comes from Alex Armstrong with his not so strong arm that couldn't handle an arm wrestling match. Marvelous. Thanks to Andreas and Switzerland, you told us a great story about injuring your finger with your Swiss army knife. And I just like that you're from Switzerland and had a Swiss army knife. Do you think all Swiss people have Swiss army knives? Is that like, is it more common there, do you think? Or do you think that they call them Swiss army knives?

Aren't they just called army knives over there? It's like Chinese food. Chinese people would only go out for Chinese. They just go out for food. We call it Chinese food because it's here. Good point. Well, I don't know. Andreas is Swiss and called it a Swiss army knife.

He cut his index finger to the bone. And it happened when I wanted to drill a hole through a dog treat in order to attach a string. I wanted to play with our dog. While doing this, I used the tip of the blade like a drill, quite forcefully, actually. This wouldn't have mattered with a knife whose blade is locked in the open position. But as this Swiss Army knife does not lock the blade when open, eventually the knife snapped clothes on my finger. It happened so fast. Initially, it didn't even hurt or bleed.

But, yeah, then the realisation sank in. Plenty more, plenty more injuries. I've written loads of them down here, man, but there's just too many of them. I'm sorry I can't read them all. Thank you, everyone. I'll skip the rest because we've got to crack on. Did any people send in photos?

Yes, they did. Maybe we could have a wall of honour of people's photos, like all their scars. Do you think that's something that people would like to check out? Nice, you think that would go down well? We'll see. Maybe we'll get on to that. I have another brilliant story,

but I'm going to hold it over to our next episode because I've already told two stories. Yeah, okay. Hang on, I just need to write it down though before you're going further. Write it down, man. Write it down, man. Was it as good as that paying for petrol one? Even better. Right.

Read into that what you want. The podcast has now descended to the point where we're talking about stories that we're not telling. That's right. But we're still talking about them. They're unmade stories, man. Untauld. Untold.

Oh, dear. Ideas for a podcast. Who's going first? I like mine today, man. I'm just telling you, I like mine. I like mine too. I like mine a lot. All right. All right. All right. You've done a bit of talking there. So let me go first. You go first. I think people are sick of my voice, frankly. One of the funest things I think about being a police officer would be having a partner. You know how police officers get partnered up? Yeah. And particularly detectives, they have to go out together and investigate stuff. So they get to hang out a lot, right? And have a lot of fun. Like you and me, we're like, part. partners in this, you know, this caper here, right? Yeah. And it's always like a big deal when you get a new partner and you're not getting along with your partner and all that kind of stuff. But after a while, you know, you sort of, you get along with your partner, you get to

know them a little bit, they bristle a little bit. And then at some stage, you have to have, like, you have to do a stakeout, right? So you're not just like running around doing stuff and one person, you know, doing it differently to the other and having to have an argument. You have to do a stakeout, which is when you're like, you have to basically sit in a car all night long just watching for someone to come, you know, out of an upstairs window. Yeah. And one of you has to go off and get, like, a couple of coffees and some food.

Yeah. And they come back with the coffees and they sort of handed over it in the front seat of the car. And, you know, they take off the lid and blow on it and stuff. And then they got like a couple of tacos or a couple of hot dogs or something like that as well. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. You're making me want to go on a steak out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they're just chatting and talking and all that kind of stuff. and my idea is that that's a podcast, right? Because this seems to be a real moment of like honesty for a cop. You know, that's a time when they sort of, you know, it's a bit silent, a bit quiet and stuff. And then after a while, you know, one of them says, so, you know, you can ask Judy out, you know? Yeah.

And it's like, oh, maybe, nah. And then the other one says something about, you know, their kid and how they're struggling. And, you know, that's the bonds start to form. And stuff comes out, you never knew about each other. What? You do ballet lessons. Yeah, that's right. That's right.

And it seems to be this beautiful moment where the partner's bond and get to know each other and over coffees watching. And then it goes along for a little while. And then it's like, wait, there's our guy. Boom, boom. And then they get out of the car and off they go. Yeah, and it's business. That's a podcast.

That's a beautiful set for a podcast. Cops on a stakeout with a couple of coffees and a couple of cold hot. Love it, man. Sitting and talking. Love it. Just stay. Yep. Is the podcast always the same guys on a stakeout or is it like a different stakeout each episode?

Well, that's hard. If they were real cops and they were making this as a show, I reckon it would be cool to have the same guys. You know what I mean? This is our podcast is us in the car, like just talking when we're waiting, right? That'd be awesome. I love, how good a stakeouts and movies? Some of my favorites. Definitely.

I love in point break when Gary Busey and Keanu Reeves are like waiting for the bank robbery and he gets really excited about the takeaway place that's around the corner and gives his order to Keanu Reeves and he's so into the food he's getting they miss the bank robbery they'd be waiting to see and it's like inaction I know I think Keanu Reeves comes back and goes when did that car pull up outside the bank and Gary Busey's like oh what what and then they see the bank robbers jump out of the building because I think as a kid you're looking at a steak out right and it and it from perspective it looks like a couple of guys, hey, who get to eat takeout, they get to eat takeaway food, which is great.

Sit to car. Yeah. And it also, it's kind of like they're not working. You know what I mean? Like, they're just hanging out. And they're only there for about 10 or 15 minutes in the movie. I mean, I know, you know, after eight hours, you'd be starting to really, really get over it.

But, you know, our episodes would only go for a good, enjoyable amount of time. And I like the idea that they all end in the same way, right? They're all like, there's our man. And they're like, put those stuff down. You just hear the doors opening and they're running out, triggers, guns being copped. Do you remember the 80s film Steakout with Richard Dreyfus and Emilio Estevez? No, no, I don't. That was a real, that was a bit of a niche film, but it was a real favourite of mine,

Steakout and these two police officers are staking out this woman's house. Because I think she's like the girlfriend of the baddie or something like that, you know, so they're staking out the house to see if he comes there. And they're doing surveillance. And it's just, it's a really fun film. Because another trope in films, and I think this was part of the film's stakeout as well, is there were two shifts. And the guys who take over your shift you always don't get along with.

And they're always really boring. Like, you're really characterful characters. And the two guys who take over the shift are always two cops that are really boring and almost identical. And they don't like each other. That's right. Their car pulls up in the opposite direction to yours, and you talk across through your open windows like that.

And then they go away and they have to roll their eyes at them. In the film Steakout, I think they're doing it from an apartment opposite this woman's house. So these other guys will come into the apartment. That's a great film. Staking. I reckon if there are guys taken over from you, they're really, really boring guys. But if you're taking over from the guys beforehand, they've always left a mess, like there's pizza laying around and all that garbage and stuff.

That's totally. Yeah, you've got to watch the film Steak Out, man. It's brilliant. Do you think it's a good podcast? I like it. Yeah. I like it. I mean, I like it just because I like the way you sold it and it sounds fun. I don't know what the actual mechanics of it are. You know, are real cops going to agree to

let you listen to their stakeout? No. Are you going to be two guys like you and me pretending to do a stakeout for the sake of the podcast? Possibly. Possibly. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how you're actually going to make it. But I like, I just like the idea. And it's like a good twist. It's a good twist on two people talking. You know, we're always looking for good excuses to find two people talking in a different environment. Like, you know, we've talked about maybe, you know, a hairdresser where you talk to your hairdresser and that sort of stuff. And this is like a good twist on it. So well done, man. Good idea. Love it. The name stakeout. Is that the only name possible?

Don't overthink it, man. Don't overthink it. Don't do it, man. I can see it. I can see the wheels turning. I was trying to think of a third phrase. I was thinking you got, it's stakeout with takeout. And then I was trying to think of a third. You know what I mean? Like steak. Before the breakout? Oh, why didn't I think of that? Break. I was literally driving down the road going, a cake out, bake out.

Well, do you know what? My idea for a podcast is also going to involve talking in a car, so we're on a, we've got a bit of a theme developing here. Shit, before we get to that, though, shall we do a quick spoon of the week? If I can find it sitting around here somewhere, absolutely. It's in my pocket, yes. Spoon the week. Brady, this is a spoon that's not dissoning.

similar to a spoon that we've had before. It is a beautiful square head with a large butterfly such that you only see in a butterfly enclosure or in cans in North Queensland, which is where this is from. Nice. It's quite a short spoon. It does look short. It looks very stubby. One of the shorter ones I've seen. Totally, totally. Very teaspoon-esque. But it's got a wide scoopy bit like an open shell. So you could actually get quite a lot of sugar into your cup of tea or coffee if that's what you were using it for.

The shelled scoopy bit is like a bit of a genre within the spoon world, isn't it? Like, you do see them a lot, and this is a fine example. I bet the chap that first did it wish that he'd patented it, the shelled scoopy bit. He would be absolutely rolling in cash by now.

Much imitated. Have you been to cans? I have been to cans, yes, flown into. to Cairns and then gone on a little holiday with the family in an Airbnb place that we hired. Nice. One time about a decade ago. Yes, very humid but beautiful. Yeah, Great Barrier Reef up there.

I went snorkeling on the Great Barrier Reef when I was in Cair. I'd never been snorkeling before. We went out on this boat and I thought, oh, well, okay, they're going to be treat us with kid gloves. And they put us in all the scuba gear. We jumped off on the reef, sort of linked arms with the instructors. And after a few seconds, making sure we knew how to swim, we went, okay, off you go. and we just went off scuba diving over the great barrier. I had no training.

It was completely inappropriate. I can't believe I'm still alive. Really? They gave you like the whole, like, you don't mean snorkel. You mean like with a tank and stuff? Proper scuba, man. It was crazy. Gosh.

It was cowboy stuff. I should not have been allowed to do it. And after a while did you come back with the bends and have to go into one of those sort of big hyperbolic chambers? I didn't, but three people did. Two of them died. It was terrible. No.

No. I don't know. My first instinct was to burst out laughing, but that was because I thought you were joking. Everyone was okay, but it did seem wrong. But anyway, that's my memory of Cairns. And going on a bus tour with a guy called Uncle Brian, who ran the best bus tour I've ever been on. I met someone before I went to Cairns, and they said, whatever you do, make sure you go on a bus tour with Uncle Brian. And I had no idea what it was. But when I saw it advertised, I booked the Uncle Brian bus tour.

And it's the best holiday bus tour I've ever done anywhere. I'm sure he doesn't do it anymore, but it was amazing. I had a half-sister who lived in Cairns, and she's sadly now deceased, but my father, who is also now deceased, went up to visit her in 1988, and that's when he bought this spoon. Okay, thank you. Wow, the one time I didn't ask you where it came from, and it's the one time you knew all the details.

Indeed, that's right. The butterfly is like black, by the way. If you're thinking it's some like beautiful, colourful, spotty thing. It's not, it's a really menacing looking black butterfly, but it's sitting on a little piece of sprig of flowery niceness. But the butterfly itself is menacing. Yeah, black, dark blue, if you look closely. It's sort of a dark blue and then black.

Okay. But, yeah. Oh, my wife and I can spend many a minute arguing over whether something is black or dark blue. Right. Yes. It's going to be a lot of money different when it comes to paying for a suit. Would you like to hear my idea for a podcast? Yes, it would.

In a car. In a car. So it's going to go in two directions because I couldn't make up my mind. You know when sometimes you have an idea and you start zeroing in, you start focusing on the idea? I couldn't focus. I went down two paths and I like both of them equally. So I'm going to explore both with you. My idea is based on drive-thrus.

My wife thinks Australia has a weird obsession with drive-thes. through shops because, you know, everyone knows you can get a McDonald's drive-thru in these days, a Starbucks drive-thru. But in Australia, she thinks it's incredibly funny that you can buy alcohol in drive-thru bottle shops. Cigarettes drive-thru cigarette sellers. So my idea is the drive-thru podcast. And the first incarnation is going to relate, for sake of argument, it's going to relate to you and I, Tim, in the Unmade podcast. Right.

And I like the idea of us in the... installing drive-through locations around the world, which is just a little driveway and a a little speaker, where people who want to catch up on the latest from Unmade can just pull up in their car, put their window down, and just listen to the latest Unmade podcast for 10, 15 minutes, just catch up on what's going on. But that's the only place you can listen to it. So it becomes like the experience, like, oh, I wonder what they're talking about in the latest Unmade.

Oh, look, there's an Unmade Drive-Thru. I can go and check it out. pull up, put the window down. And then coming out of that little tinny McDonald-style speaker is just you and I, just talking stuff. Tim telling stories about petrol pumps maybe. Who knows? So that's the idea. Drive-through.

A podcast that you listen to. Because you know I'm all about new ways to consume podcasts. I've done the vinyl record thing. You and I have done audio cassette tapes and things like that. I've even done wax cylinders. But this is a new one. A drive-through speaker. So just to clarify now, are you talking about like it's like a listening post on the side of the road?

Or do you mean it's like a whole facility where you drive in undercover? No, no. It's just a listening post. It's just a little listening post. It's just a little, you just buy up little parcels of land on, you know, on main roads because you want as much traffic as possible. And people just pull into the little driveway, put their window down. I've thought about the technology. Maybe you could have number plate recognition so it knows what podcast episode you're up to and what

what point you're up to and it just resumes from where you last were. And you can just listen to five, ten minutes. There might be a couple of cars behind you. So after a while you sort of do the right thing and move on and let the car behind have their little dose of unmade as well. But you might find another one further down the road. You know, I'm imagining there'd be 30 or 40. Multiple of these in each city, is that right?

Oh, yeah, all over the world. A little unmade podcast listening point. And then it also occurred to me when you and I finally do our pivot to video and make the unmade podcast like a proper video like most podcasts are these days. we could also start like drive-in cinemas where people could pull up and like there could be 40 or 50 cars all park there and they could all be watching us on a massive screen. Wow. Listening on their car radio that they've tuned in to the right number on the FM dial hearing us and seeing us up on. That would be a real retro experience, wouldn't it?

Massive screen and people and it's the only place you can get it. Oh, wow. There you go. Hang on, does this one have a name? Just drive-through. This is more a concept, really. The drive-through podcast, man. The drive-through podcast.

Don't overthink it, man. Don't overthink of it. Here's the other idea, though. Because let's be honest, right? Every man-woman in their dog has a podcast these days, don't they? You know, in fact, it's quite unusually if you've only got one. So everyone's doing a podcast, right? And it's usually two people.

Very often, you know, old friends like you and I or colleagues and that that find something to unite on and record their podcast. Like the man who invented the scoopy shell bit on the spoon, we are much imitated. Yes. In fact, we are doing much imitating. But anyway, but here's my idea, right? Because one of the problems is, you know, it's hard setting up. Look at the problems you and I had setting up to record today.

We had all these technical problems. Some people go and book proper studios to do it. Some people try and, you know, rig something together at home. There is a problem with infrastructure. And often people are far apart. You're in Australia. I'm in England. It creates problems.

My idea is to create these drive-through posts all around the world where people can go to record their podcasts. So you would drive to one in Adelaide, pull up, put your window down, lean out, where there's a speaker and a microphone set up. I would drive to mine over here in England, pull up at the same time, put my window down, lean out. And we would just record 20 minutes of podcasting there leaning out of our cards. It'd be like a drive-through experience. It's easy. We don't have to buy the equipment. It's nearby.

It's always there. Multiple people could use it. So after you and I are finished and we drive off another couple of people who are recording a podcast together could pull up at their different places. And they're all networked around the world. And we just start recording our podcasts via these drive-through setups. Drive-through podcasting. You know how we have to be really careful about like external noise, like if it's a big rainy day or people are talking outside and stuff?

Do you think on the side of the road is a good idea? Like, do you think there would be any passing traffic or other noises and birds? AI can fix all that these days. Just triple that out, is that right? Just triple that out. Just press the button. Just press AI. AI will fix it.

Well, that's another idea as well. It could be the same facility, both. of your ideas, couldn't they? They could be the same facility, maybe two sides of the, you know, you drive in this way and you listen, drive in the other way and you, and you, and you, you contribute. Or when you pull up, there's just like two buttons and like you press, I want to record a podcast or I want to listen to Tim and Brady. That's right. Not another podcast. It's either you're making your own or us. Or listen to Tim and Brady for 10 minutes, hear what their idea is and then press the other button and record that podcast idea. Oh, there you go. Yeah, right. Yeah. So,

Synergies. Synergies. Bringing ideas together, man. You're putting your hands together. Like, it's a great synergy. Synergy. Maybe that could be trademarked that. Synergy podcast recording.

Oh, where's a synergy around here? And it's like, oh, that's where we record and listen to the Unmade podcast. Do you like my idea? Look, I think, you know how you said you had two ideas and you were thinking of both of them at the same time? I do feel perhaps you are only using part of your brain. on each idea at the time. That's what I feel about these ideas. So two half-baked ideas instead of one properly baked one.

Yeah, I didn't say half your brain. I said a portion of your brain. Portion. Okay. Yeah. Like if you put these together with a couple of other really good ideas, you might have one really good idea. Okay.

I'll take it. It is an interesting idea. I do like the idea, the analogue kind of feel somehow, putting aside the AI bit, of something being available. and it being very rare and just getting it from one place. I do like that idea. In a world where everything is available everywhere.

Yeah, exactly. It's the exclusivity, yeah. But still kind of a mass market appeal. I don't know, man. Maybe we need to talk about it more. I would love to talk about it more, but I have a slight problem in that I just got a message from my wife saying that our groceries are about to be delivered at our home.

And I think if I'm not there to receive the groceries, I could get in big trouble. But you won't be able to eat. Well, that would be the lesser of the two problems. But I do need to talk about the Patreon thing that I promised to talk about at the end of the show. I'll explain it to you, Tim. And me explaining it to you hopefully will also help the listeners understand because you probably haven't got the full picture yourself at this stage.

The way our Patreon works at the moment is that people do like a per episode or per creation. thing where they might pay $1 per creation or $3. There are different tiers, all right. You know how it works. And we don't charge for everything we post. We only really do the charge when we put a main episode up and all the other stuff we do we put on like for free, but as bonuses for the patrons. Yeah, specials and stuff.

Yeah. So usually twice a month, there'll be a main episode and we'll pay. Sometimes three times a month, occasionally once, but usually twice a month, we'll put an episode up and people will pay what they have agreed to pay on their tier. And you can set a limit, by the way. You can say, I'm not going over a dollar a month or I'm not going over $10 a month. So Tim and I can't do like a thousand creations and milk you all dry because of your commitment. All pretty simple. But there's been all these problems with Patreon and Apple. They're having some argument. I don't know all the details. But Apple don't want to do this per

creation thing anymore. They want everyone to just be paying one amount per month. And Patreon have had to like agree to this. So everything's changing and the per creation model is going away. So instead it's just going to be one payment per month, no matter how much we create or how little we create. So what Patreon are generally doing is they're moving everyone onto this new system. And the amount that you've agreed to your tier, they're basically tripling that number and making that your new per month payment.

So if you're paying $2 a creation, you will now pay $6 a month or whatever. and they got in touch with me to say, are you okay with this? And I wasn't okay with that. I thought that was too much. So I said, we don't want to triple, like most people are doing.

We just want to double because we generally aim for two charges per month. So what they're going to do soon in the next week or the next month or so is they're going to move everyone onto this new system and your tier is going to double, but instead of paying per creation, you're going to pay per month.

And if you've set a list, that is under that amount, you're not going to get jacked up over your limit, your limit will be honored. So if you've said, I'm not paying more than $10 a month or $2 a month, that will be honored, but your tier will change. I'm not exactly sure what that's going to look like. I don't, I don't really know myself. So it's going to happen. Tim and I are going to learn about it as it happens and we'll adjust to it and adapt to it when it happens. And we, and Patreon is so important to us, because it's, you know, we don't have ads. It's the whole reason we can exist. We're going to make sure patrons are well looked after. And Tim and I have already been talking about some

extra content and bonus stuff we can do to encourage people to stick with us and help us through this change. So please don't panic and hopefully you can stick with us and we're going to look after all the patrons really well. We've got some new ideas for a few new little things we want to post, some fun ideas. So when this new thing comes in, you know, you can then adapt to it yourself and change your tier or do what you want to do. Tim and I are still going to be aiming for two main episodes a month, sometimes more, very occasionally less, but two's our aim. So we think doubling that amount makes sense, made sense to us anyway. So it's going to be a monthly payments, not per creation payments.

And it just gets, you're going to get changed. It's going to be changed on you automatically. You'll get emails and messages from Patreon itself also explaining it. But I wanted you to hear it from us and know that it's not us doing it, but we're going to be moving through it with you guys. Yeah. There you go. Does that make sense?

Have I explained it? It does. That's very clear, Brady. Yes, it's moving from per episode or creation to per month. Per month. Yes. Yeah. But it's doubling as an average.

But it's doubling because, yeah, yeah, unless you've set a different limit. It will all make sense. And for people, yeah, and we're going to tell you about our future ideas shortly as well to keep you guys sweet because, you know, you're our favourites. I don't think the non-patrons are listening anymore so we can say that. Legends. you. Thank you so much for sticking with the program and loving it. It gives us enormous joy. And today, like this encounter that there's a guy in Switzerland, you know what I mean,

who has a friend and sends the friend. It's just like, what bliss? How marvelous is that? Amazing. It's really, really wonderful. And with such joy to explain, why on earth would my friend be so into this? And I'm like, well, it's, isn't it? It's the joy in the stuff of life. So good stuff. Thank you. Now, we're not doing a request room today because we haven't got time, but instead, I'm going to fulfill a request that's been made in the request room for us to release another one of our Tim in England things that we recorded. Remember when Tim was in England a couple of years ago now, we recorded a bunch of like little adventures and I've only edited a few of them and there are a few that are unedited. I'm going to edit one of those and that's

going to be our request room this week. Oh, that's cool. I've been looking forward to these. There's a couple there that I was like, they're really great. They're good. They're just really hard to edit because they're so noisy and they're on all these different microphones and so they're challenging at it. So much laughter because they're so. funny. It's so awesome. I have to admit I've been putting it off, but I'm not going to put it off anymore. So that will be the request room this week. Awesome. Awesome. So go and check it out. Go and check it out patrons. Thank you, everybody. See you soon.