The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Adopted from Russia, Leaving Mormonism, & Dealing w/ Hate Comments w/ Maddie Henderson & Matt Scharff 

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

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In communities across Canada, hourly Amazon employees can grow their skills and their paycheck by enrolling in free skills training programs for in-demand fields. Learn more at aboutamazon.ca. The Mormon culture I was raised in. I was at the point where I'm like, I just need to get out. We just moved in together. What did your mom think? Well, she wasn't for it. Maddie Henderson and Matt Sharve are a famous TikTok couple that recently announced they're pregnant with their first baby.

and pull and pray for like the last three or four years. Gotta be careful with that one. And it's starting to kind of get in my mind. I'm like, are we just really good at pulling and praying? It's a weird thing to say. It sure is, honey. Matt is best known for his famous golf channel, Good Good, but most people don't know that he was adopted from an orphanage in Russia

when he was only about five years old. Matt went to the baby orphanage. And the big kid orphanage, you kind of had to fight for what you want. And in the baby orphanage, the cuter you are, the more the love and attention you get. When you read comments, are you reading positive stuff? No, I read the negative stuff, Matt, that's really ruins my life. Hasim does not read online. No, it's horrible.

It's just because he's himself. They just don't like him. People like Hazen. What's up, dudes? And welcome back to the unplanned podcast, baby. Yeah, today we have the honor of talking to Matt and Maddie, which your names go together so well. You'll say that a lot. Matt and Maddie.

People are like, it's so easy a member. And I'm like, I guess. How are you guys feeling? I mean, you have a baby on the way. You just got married less than a year ago. A lot of big life change. change is happening for you guys. We got married almost three years ago.

Wait, what? I know my best. Wait, wait, wait, what? Wait, why did I have it in my notes that it was literally like last year? It was 2023. You know, I do post about it like, like, I'll do like, it's been a year, it's been two years and it was like wedding pictures. Because people have thought that. Wow.

So it's like you post stuff like it's new, but it's really from like two years ago. I'm like happy one year, happy two years. See, you fooled me. I literally, I thought you guys been married for like six months. So yeah, yeah. We're almost coming up on three years in August. Oh my gosh. Congratulations on three years of marriage, you guys. Thank you so much. Thank you. Do you still like each other? Like how is that? More than anything. Yeah, of course we do. Of course we do. So I graduated in 2020. I know I was one of those kids. And graduated in 2020 and we were talking online and COVID happened because he was in Kansas. I was in

Utah. We met online. We were talking and like right after I graduated, I moved to Texas with him. So we've been living together for almost like six years. Wow. And then we got married three years ago. Okay. Why did I think you guys were like so much more like established and like older than us? Like I read today. I feel like because of that like that we've done each other for six years. So it feels like we've been married for six years because we started that process so early. Maybe it's because you have a beard too. Like I've got like a baby face, no beard. So then I read that you were born in 1999. And I'm like what? Like I'm a 98 kid. Like I just graduated 2020. Like I just in high school. Yeah.

Yeah, Yeah, high school. Stop. You graduated high school in 2020? I turned 24 like five days ago. Yeah. And actually his birthday was yesterday. Happy birthday, both of you.

Wow. Okay, so then we're the same age right now. We're both 27. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Good for you guys. That's crazy. Yeah.

Wild. You guys had kind of a special engagement too. Tell this story. Oh, here we go. Yeah. We, well, we went to Greece. That was kind of crazy. All right, perfect.

All right, thank you. No, I have to tell you I knew that. And I have to tell you how I knew that, actually. My brother saw you guys in the airport in Greece. Wait, yes. Eddie, Alex. Wait, we talked about that. Yes, I know this.

Okay. Literally, I met Abby, or you probably had to bully him into saying anything. My brother's not like this. He's, like, very introverted. We are actually really nothing to like. And so the fact that he actually, he, like, has done the zero percent of terms. Wait, stop it. Wait, that's so cute.

That's my freaking floss, bro. I remember those. You guys were so nice. We got us so thin. Wait, wait, what is this outfit you're wearing? I don't even know. I don't even know what that freak I'm wearing, bro. I don't know.

You got your flip flops and socks on. The Puma socks too. That's funny. That's so nice. Are those the Costco socks? Yes, of course they are. Let's go. I've been up in these things for like everybody.

Six years. The Puma Costco socks. My mom buys me these because she's like, I really. Do you think they're the same quality as real Puma? Absolutely not. We're wearing a mika of a shirt.

Probably not. That's so cool. That's right to keep buying them. We need to put the picture up on the video for everyone to see Abby's brother and Matt in Greece. And it was cool because we actually went with one of our other good friends, Grant Horvatt, who also does YouTube golf and his now wife, Sadie. And so actually they got engaged. I had no idea that Grant and Matt were planning this like double engagement thing because I thought we were going for her to get engaged. and we were like going to help out.

And they thought they were coming for me to get engaged. And so really the guys were like, we're in Greece. We're both doing this. This is a movie. So they did it like the second or third night or second or third night, I don't remember. And then the next morning we're like, let's go take photos. Let's have a little photo shoot. And I mean, you can't go wrong in Santorini.

Like everywhere is just beautiful. And then he proposed. And then people even asked me, they're like, was that, did that bother you that like someone else got engaged when you got engaged or you got you know, was that like a problem? And I said, we were both at the happiest moments. Like, it was like peak joy. We just got engaged. Now we're on a catamaran in Greece. Yeah. I'm not disappointed. And so happy and so happy for each other. It was like the most, it was, it was amazing. And now here we are a couple years later. That's so cool. Having a baby,

girl. That's so cool. Oh, girl. So exciting. I know. Did you like all the cats in Greece? There's like a bazillion cats. Yes. They have cats. They were part of the, they were part of the humans. They were. You go to a breakfast joint and then you'd look to your right and there'd be a cat sitting in a chair. Yeah. Like with a plate, like they just got done eating and then they'd taken a nap. Yeah. No, they got fed so well. Like they'll be like, oh, the cat's sleeping, you can't sit there. Yeah, like you can't mess with them. They're like treated like kings and queens. I'm like good. And they're so precious and so cute. And I'm a huge, well, just animal person in general, but I love cats. And so we have two cats right now.

And I mean, they're just, I always check my ring. Like, we have Rover checking in on them when we're gone. And I just always check my ring and just see what they're doing. It's like, I know they're like not actual human, like children. But they're the closest I have right now. Right. Right. Right.

When you said rovers checking in on them, what is that? You never heard of rover? Wow. Man, you're missing out, man. I don't know. I don't know rover either. So what do you do when you guys go out of town? You put them in boarding?

No. No, no, no. We have a dog sitter. We have a dog sitter. Okay. She comes here and stays with her. So. That's pretty much what it is.

That's what it is. So you can have someone stay in your home. You can have your animal stay somewhere else. Or you can have someone basically check in on your pets. Oh. So we have someone come twice a day. We love her. She's amazing.

Sasha. And she comes in twice a day and checks and plays with the cats and comes in the morning and then comes in the evening. No way. Is that like an app? Rover. It's literally called Rover. What? Yeah.

I have a couple friends who work for Rover too. They just go to make some extra cash. Go on dog walks. Wow. It's pretty cool. Rover should like clip this. This is like a perfect ad for them. Yeah, this is an easy ad.

To be honest. If you use code Mad Maddie 15, you can get 15% off your first purchase using Rover for the first three months. You can have to get 15% off. Low key, we should reach out to Rover because they've kind of changed our lives in the great way. Our dog honestly likes her dogs that are better than us. How do you feel about being married to a cat lady? Oh, I love it. I mean, I've been an animal dude my whole life.

So I love cats. I had cats growing up, had dogs growing up. So I freaking love it. See, we almost got one like a couple of. ago because our three-year-old is like a couple weeks ago yeah well he's he's just randomly will say stuff and then when he says it like I just we love our kids I want to give him the world you're like yeah we'll make it happen I want a cat named what did he say he was I want a cat named Thor Thor he's like I want a great name

it's a great cat name I'm like yeah let's get a cat named Thor come on it's never said anything else about it said so if we would have really acted on that that would have been crazy but then I remember that I'm like highly allergic to cats so yeah yeah and that's the bummer and that's that's like I feel, I'm so sorry. Yeah. I just be sneezing all the time, you know? Yeah, that's not fun.

You guys don't have allergies to- I have horrible allergies. Oh, not against animals. Not against animals. I'm dying every day. Yeah. No, I have like horrible seasonal allergies and stuff. So like I get the pain of horrible allergies.

So you're not with the cats. You're taking your like Zyrtec or Claredin like daily. That way you're not sneezing with all your cats in the house. I mean when it's bad, it's, yeah, I try and take it every day or. Their shedding season is. Yeah. Their shedding season is bad, but sometimes it's like I'm great. Like I haven't taken out of technology's all week.

We've been one week. Oh, nice. And I have amazing. I met him one week. That's so good. Wait, can we like rewind a little bit because, okay, your engagement story is incredible. But I want to know more about like how you met, how you started dating long distance. It met online.

Wait, what? You met online? Yeah. We met online, but it's a very modern day love story. Okay. So I was scrolling on TikTok as one does. it just became TikTok, okay? It's not musically anymore.

You know, it's back then. So this was probably November of 2019, and I was just scrolling on TikTok, and I saw this guy do this impression of Jack Sparrow in a mirror. And I just was like, and I'm not the person to comment cute or hot or, you know, any of those things. But oh my goodness, my breath was taken away.

I was like, he looks just like Will Turner and he's doing this Jack Sparrow impression. And it was just, it was absolute peak. It was so good. And I just, I commented, cute. And I had no idea what that would have turned into because he saw that I was verified. And because, you know, he was looking through comments. He's like, oh my gosh, a verified chick commented. Wait, you were verified?

When as a kid? He verified in 2019. No way. Verified. I think I got verified probably, yeah, the beginning of my senior year of high school. Oh my gosh. For dance stuff? No, I just did the comedy, like lifestyle stuff.

Definitely cringe. Like, I look back and I'm like, how could I post this? Like, I'm like, oh, we've all been there. It's so bad. Like, sometimes I'll literally see a video from six years ago. And I will be like, archive. Archive. Yeah, that's an archive post.

This is just rough. But it was the time. I was like, I was like 16, 17. Totally. You know, it was the whole world was kind of cringe. It was just weird. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

How I know you guys, how I discovered you is when Abby and I were doing like more couples videos in 2020, you guys would do this just in case series. Whatever happened to the just in case series? So, yeah, the just in case, like someone tries to attack you. Yeah. Just in case all that stuff. So I actually started that before he was in the picture with actually one of my good friends in high school.

And it was just, we were hanging out one night and I said, hey, you want to make this like fun video with me? He's like, yeah, let's do it. Sure. and so we just made a random fun video and it got millions of views and then I was just like let's just keep going

my mom was like you should call it the just in case series because like pretend or defender like weird whatever and I'm like okay great and then it kind of just evolved and then as he you know as we started dating we started evolving it more and then it got to the point where it's like there's not much more just in case you can do

yeah she kind of covered all of it like just in case your mom comes home when the chicken's not dothed. You know, it's like, I hit every base. And it was just, it's a very character, you know, type of video to even make. And I think what's interesting, too, is I'm like, I'm 24 now. I was 16, 15, 15, 16 when I started making these videos. I've grown up and changed mature-wise, life-wise, a lot in those years.

And so sometimes I look back and I'm like, wow, this is so cringy. But then I'm also like, yeah, I'm 16. mean. You know, like I'm naturally, I'm going to be different than than I am now. You know, my content is going to be, you know, different. But anyway, I saw a Jack Sparrow impression. I fell in love with this guy. And I was like, this is all it took, man. I know, it was so easy. And he reached out to me and we just kind of started DMing each other on Instagram. And actually, you sent me a Snapchat, but I never added you back for like a couple of months. Because I had no idea. I'm so sorry.

It was a rough time for me. He was like, you never run me back. I had no idea, but he sent me a Snapchat. him doing like this like two minute long Jack Sparrow impression. And I didn't see it until March. And so I finally add him back and I see this impression. And it was definitely a good icebreaker because you know how, you know, starting phases, you're like, oh, here's the shoulder to snap. You're like in Snapchats, you know, you don't like show your face or whatever. I was like, wow, he really went out of the way to start this Snapchat. We are just very much ourselves. And so I just responded kind of the same exact way. And we just became best friends.

through the phone. He was in Kansas at the time. And that's just, yeah, we did all that. And then COVID happened. What else do you do during COVID? But hang out. And so he stayed at my mom's house, which my mom thought was crazy. That's a whole other thing. And then here we are now. Oh, wow. Wow. Okay, Matt, what were your first impressions scrolling through all of her musically videos? Getting to know this girl that just like slid in under your comments on your Jack's Paro video. Yeah, it was kind of crazy.

I mean, she was doing this Justin K series with another boy and I was like, all right, well, I am obviously out. I'm done, but no, I thought they were hilarious. I was very intrigued with like how much she's herself, especially like on an app like that. You know, I was around when Vine was a thing and it was kind of similar.

So like looking for like that genuine, genuine person, it's very difficult. Yeah. And so like I found her and I was like, wow, she's actually just, I think she's being herself. I mean, I obviously didn't know her, but I was like, it looks like she's just trying to be Maddie, whoever that is. Yeah.

And then watching all the videos. And I really didn't think they were cringe because I was also cringe, right? Like, if I looked at them now, I'd be like, what type of cringe videos were you putting out of the time? I was just not even go there, brother. It's just not even a train to get on. Thirst traps at the time? No, I think God, I didn't do the thirst traps.

I was more of just like the- You never did that kind of stuff. It was just. I was just weird. just a group. It's just weird. It's weird. And so I saw that and I was like, man, this, this girl kind of matches my personality.

And then, you know, I had been talking to other girls at the time and none of them were really, like, hitting. And I was really hitting off with any of them. And then I was talking to Garrett. And this is after I kind of was talking to Maddie for a little bit. And I was like, dude, I kind of like this girl. I think this could be something. And Garrett's just like driving the truck. And he's like, okay.

He heard this so many times before. And then, you know, progressive. and she's asking me to go to this freaking TikTok conference thing. I don't even freaking know. It's called TikTok Live. TikTok Live. And do you remember that from like way back when, right before COVID hit? Yeah, it was like, we weren't on until after COVID.

Yeah, we didn't get. See, we started making TikTok dances when we were like in quarantine, you know. And you guys were in Hawaii at that point, right? Shortly after. Shortly after. We lived there for a year. Okay, yes. Because I remember, I don't know where in my files and my memory, but I remember you guys living

in Hawaii at one point. Yes. Okay, okay. Yes, we did. Like six months after we started TikTok. That was a fun time. Yeah. How was that with COVID? Was that hard living there with COVID?

It was actually great because we were living like in the like the country sort of area. So the restrictions weren't as high and we could just like go to the beach and go hike. So it was just you could do anything outdoors. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So that was good. I mean you're in Hawaii.

Why wouldn't you be? Yeah. We lived in like a little shoe box. So we were right by the water. So it's just like you hear the ocean when you're going to bed. Yeah. We didn't have AC though. that was the timer. No air conditioning. Yeah. Well, okay, so when we are living in Hawaii in 2021,

where you got, you said you guys, like, lived together for six years. Was that in Texas then or Kansas or where exactly was that? Texas. Yeah, so I just had a lot of stuff going on like family-wise, and I was just ready to get out of Utah. Yeah. You know, and Utah very much, especially in the, in the culture I was raised in, the Mormon culture, it's a bubble, you know, where I, it is like, it's its own little world there. Like I watched Secret Lives Mormon Wives and I'm like, uh-huh. Really? It's just such a, it's such a different world there.

And so I was at the point where I'm like, I just need to get out. I just need to be away. And he was living in Kansas, but him and all the good good guys, this was before Good Good was started, his golf company. And they were like, well, we're moving to Texas to like really try to do this thing. And it was just kind of like, yeah, well, I was, I want to move out. I just don't know where, whatever. Come in Texas.

you know what screw it okay I'm come to Texas yeah and so we just moved in together into you know and that was August of 2020 and then it really it's interesting because it's like we only were dating for a couple months at that point we only met at the end of April 24th of 2020 so that's when we met each other for the first time and then we moved in August 1st again this is a crazy story like the fact that this that all worked out the way it did I tell my mom I'm like I don't know everyone probably thought I was crazy I look back and I'm like, holy crap. Like if my daughter was doing, I'd be like, what are you doing?

Like, this is crazy. But it worked out so perfectly. We're so blessed and lucky to have it turn out the way it turned out. Growing up in Utah, what did your mom think when you're like, yeah, I just graduated. I'm going to go move in with this guy. Like what? Right. What did your mom say to you?

What did your mom say to you? Well, she wasn't for it. I was kind of going through a little rebellious phase where I was like, I was making money on my own, you know, and through TikTok, and I'm like, oh my gosh, she's made a hundred bucks. I'm rich, you know. And I'm, and I was, you know, young and I just graduated high school, but also COVID, it was like the whole world was shut down. Everything was just weird. It was just a weird time. And my mom was going through, my mom and dad had been in this like eight year divorce thing. And so they, she was just going through her own version of hell and, you know,

whatever. And so I was just kind of like, I'm just getting out. And I'm like, I use the quote, I'm 18, I can do whatever I want. So she's like, I either support or I don't, you know. I'm going to hate when our kids pull that on us. I can do whatever I want. I'm not looking forward to that. And I did. And, you know, usually at that age you can't afford to do that yourself.

But luckily, because of what I was able, my content and stuff, I was. And so I just, I just did it. And she was supportive. It was kind of more my, like, other family, like my in-laws and extended family and all of my friends being like, what are you doing? And I'm like, I'm just moving Texas. Did you still like identify as like Mormon or LDS at the time when you like moved out of Utah?

Or was that like, was that your, I guess, version of breaking away from that? It was very strict, I guess, in my upbringing and very much on in every aspect of our lives. And so, but when my parents started their divorce process when I was 16, it kind of just all fell through. Like we just, you know, I would go to church and people would talk to me about it. And I'm like, I don't want to talk about this. So I just, I stopped going at church, I whatever.

I'm kind of figuring out. And Matt and I believe too, I believe every, you know, no matter what your upbringing is, whether you're raised in a church or raised not, you have to come to a point in your life where you actually have to make the decision for yourself, do I believe this or do I believe this because of my testimony or my parents' testimony? And I didn't have my own testimony. I mean, I thought I did. but it was only because that's what I was around.

And then we went, I kind of was just like, I'm not Mormon, I'm not this, I don't know what I believe, and I did that for a couple of years. And then Matt and I actually found God together about three years ago. And our lives have been, you know, redirected in a very positive way ever since. But I know I'm no longer LBS. Thank you to ASPCA for sponsoring today's episode. You guys, we're obsessed with our dog. I love her so much. She is so silly sometimes and eats our drywall and eats our rug.

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I know we were talking earlier off podcast about Elizabeth Smart, you growing up near where she lived. Yeah. And even talking to her, she said that like her parents' divorce is what brought her to therapy more so than the kidnapping did, which is just like wild how like, how big of an effect divorce has on kids. Yeah. Especially in a religion where celestial families are so prominent.

Yeah. Because in the Mormon religion, they believe that, you know, you are sealed for eternity to your spouse. And then you live with them, you know, you live together for eternity in heaven. And, you know, your kids, and it's a whole eternity thing. And so believing that as a kid and then having your parents separate, it's not even just like this life thing. It's like a different level of like, what is our eternity going to look like? What is heaven going to look like? It's this other kind of breakage.

And I think that definitely affected. Like emotions taken out of it. what is the teaching of what eternity looks like if people get a divorce in the church? Well, I mean, it depends kind of who you ask. Well, I believe when I was in the church, what the doctrine said at the time, was that you'd have to do a ceiling break, so they'd have to actually go into the temple and break a ceiling. Oh, wow.

Which is like a very big deal. But some people choose to stay sealed. Like my mom knows some people who are divorced, but they just have stayed sealed, so they'll be together in heaven, but just not on this life, in this life. And, but my mom and dad, yeah, they ended the ceiling. But then it just throws the kids through a loop. It throws your mind through a loop, you know, being the child of that. And trying to understand what that looks like.

Heaven already is so difficult to understand. And so it just, it was just a whole other added level of, like, you know, hurt, I guess, you know. Yeah. Wait, Matt, Matt, were you raised, like Christian, Mormon, like, not at all? Yeah, I was raised like non-denominational. Well, I guess I was actually raised Methodist for a little bit. We did Methodist Church, and then I was kind of raised, I would say, non-denominational Christian, pretty much my entire life. Gotcha.

Going to the church, going to Sunday school, going to little trips and stuff. And, yeah, that was pretty much my entire upbringing. Gotcha. And then, so then, I guess, meeting each other and, like, yeah, deciding to be a couple, were your parents at all, like, oh, you're going to be? like marry the girl from Utah. Like, was that any, or did your parents were just like, you just do whatever you what, we love you, like. Yeah, pretty much.

They didn't really have like a huge say in my relationship status, I guess. Gotcha. They never really have. It was kind of like, hey, if you like her and, you know, I don't know if we were at love, I guess, yet. But if you love this girl, like, you know, pursue it. And, you know, just kind of do it. Yeah, it wasn't like a, don't you dare kind of thing, you know.

even if I had told them, even if I think I'd told them that she was, you know, LDS, I still don't think they'd have been like, don't do that. Like, I don't think they would have, I don't think they would have really cared. When did you have started talking about getting married? Like, when did that come into the picture?

Day one. Day one? Oh, wow. I'm kidding. I mean, it is funny because, you know, most people, when it's like, you meet, you meet a guy and you go on a date and they take you out Friday night.

And it's like, come on a date and you go on a day, and you go again Friday night, the next Friday night. You know, with COVID, it was like, we were talking. walking on the phone 24 freaking 7 because like again what else is there to do and then he literally came to then stay at my mom's house in the basement for longer than that because he went to Vegas yeah it's two weeks we drove on a road trip to Vegas and the strip was closed and it was really cool to see the strip not all you know filled but um and again this was like the beginning of COVID and so then all of a sudden we were spending every waking moment together and then we got COVID together so then we were quarantined together even longer and

And we just, it just all, it all happened really fast, which I see that now, but also didn't feel fast. It felt like it was like, we've known each other forever. We had such a foundation, I think, too, from talking online, that it wasn't like a, it was like we only could be best friends. We couldn't have any of that physical intimacy. We couldn't have any of that for months. And so we just grew such a strong base of friendship.

before we even met each other, you know, and then it just kind of, we were best friends before we were anything else. That's so sweet. And it seems like you guys have like the same sense of humor, I feel like. We do. Sometimes I forget that other people don't think it's funny. Yeah. I like it.

I love the energy that it brings into a room. I bet you guys laugh a lot, which is really sweet. Yeah, we do. Yeah. I don't know if others would laugh. No, I sure. It's so stupid. I love how your humor is so dry and like, you're all like bubbly and smiling, and you're just

like, not even smile. I love that. Like, I don't know. I wish I could, like, embody that, like, brand of comedy that version.

You're a golden retriever, Matt. I'm not. That's just not me. Yeah. This doesn't work. That's so sweet. You tell us a joke. Say something funny.

Make us laugh. That's so funny. So, well, it's funny, too, because in the good good videos, because I don't know if you guys know about the golf thing stuff.

I know what good good is, but can you explain it for people? Like, are listeners that have no idea what good good is? Let them, like, tell them what good good is. Big hat, by the way.

Yeah, love the Good Good Hat. I appreciate it. Looks in the mirror. No, Good Good essentially is a golf company that I own with a bunch of my buddies. And we travel the world and we film golf YouTube videos together. We've got a, you know, like a whole business that sells apparel and, you know, we're partnered with Callaway. And we just try to do anything and everything we can in the golf space, trying to be more of a solidified, like, golf brand, not just some, you know. YouTube golf brand.

Yeah. And I think we've done a pretty good job of that in the last six years. But, I mean, yeah, we're a YouTube company. We're an apparel company. We are working on our PGA Tour Championship tour event. We got coming in November. So we partnered with them and we have our, like, legit own golf tournament for FedEx points on tour.

We're bringing back Big Break. I don't know if you guys ever heard Big Break, but it's essentially where a bunch of people go and compete and who, wins gets the chance to go on like the PGA tour and compete in an actual tournament. Oh, no way. So they had done that for like I think over 20 years or whatever and then stopped and then they're redoing it with us. That's sick.

So like we get a chance to like bring that back. So we're doing a bunch of crazy stuff in the in the golf space. But I mean, the way that I like to tell it is it's just a golf company that I run with my best friends. Yeah. That's so cool that you guys are all friends doing it together too. I'm sure it makes things a little difficult at times too. Oh no.

They piss me off. Yeah. it's so great and sometimes they get on my nerves weren't you guys like the first digital like golf brand to do

like partner with something yeah yeah the first the like when we signed with Calaway that was like the biggest like brand deal that anyone has ever seen like that's so cool wow you guys are all buddies

in the golf world or like in yeah like like Callaway Taylor Taylor like like all these other guys had never done like had never done anything like they had never signed with like a bunch of creators and actually giving them a huge lump sum of money and partnered with him like that that had never been done so we were kind of like the first company to do that

it's cool you guys make videos golfing together i think that's kind of that's kind of rad when i never golfed until he yeah i was going to say you had to learn my dad took me golfing when i was little and he gave me his men's clubs at the range and i couldn't hit anything and i got so mad and i'm like i'm never touching a golf club in my life i hate this sport and then i meet this guy he's like yeah i make golf youtube videos and then honestly I really do enjoy it. Yeah, it's fun. It's very fun.

It can make me angry like no other. I believe it. Have you thrown a club? Multiple. So many. She's chucked water bottles. She's thrown everything. Well, Matt's like you can't throw that club.

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all right, is this going to be like a go or is this thing going to be a bust? You know, if we freaking drop all our apparel and we bought 5,000 polos and we sold 40 of them. Yay. Yeah. I mean, obviously this isn't for us. But we had like a drop and it all sold out in like 30 minutes and it flew off the shelves and people freaking loved it.

And, you know, we were getting really good feedback on our YouTube videos as well, which I think, like, seeing that, seeing like the success that we had in the YouTube and just seeing the numbers, we were like, all right, I think this can be something. But then when you bring like the R&D of actually making clothes and apparel for people to buy, it's like, that's just like a completely different level. Like a lot of people will be like, oh, you got great YouTube followers and great views. You're just going to sell apparel. Yeah. But that's just not the case. It's just completely different thing. Like when you're actually telling people to go purchase something compared

to just watch your YouTube videos for free. Yeah. It's completely different. And we were like, man, this is either going to tank the company or we're just going to sail and we ended up sailing. Do you have like an in-house development team for the apparel? Yeah, we've got a design and apparel team. We work hand in hand with the apparel as well. You're like 60 employees. Yeah, we've got like, so we're moving up in employees. We, the good good guys like wear hands on with the apparel and stuff.

We're talking about what we like, what we don't like, what we want people to wear and not wear. So we work closely with the design team. But yeah, we try and be as hands-on. with as much stuff as you possibly can. Obviously, there are some jobs that we can't do. That's why we allocate it to other people. Yeah. But for the most part, we are as hands on as we can be.

A lot of people forget, though, too, that you, they actually tried. You guys, you, Garrett and Steve did a company before Good Good. Yeah, we did. And it failed. And so usually if that happens, people are like, screw it, we're not doing this again. And then, so Good Good was actually your second attempt. No way. Yeah.

Yeah, it was a company. It was called Bro5. It was myself, Stephen Garrett, and a guy named Brody Smith, who did a bunch of different frisbee trick shots. He was a huge frisbee guy. And then he kind of got into the game of golf. And me, Garrett, and Steve were kind of doing GM golf. And we were doing funny, you know, wheel and not ideal videos and playing with hamburgers and hot dogs. And we were doing literally anything and everything that we could to make it as non-golf related as possible.

So we could bring in an audience to be like, come watch guys just be dudes. you know, just come watch his, you know, buddies having fun. And so we were like absolutely crushing that. And then Brody was like the older guy. He was the business head. He kind of had all the connections and stuff. And he was like, we can make like a company together. And then obviously all three of us had been really, really big fans of Dude Perfect.

I'd been following them for a long time and been watching all their videos and freaking love them. And they were like the group, right? They were the YouTube group. And we're like, man, what if we just did that? Like something like that? but with like golf and we just tried to create like a new, you know, dude perfect but golf thing. Yeah.

And then, yeah, we started down the journey and things were going really well and we were filming a bunch of different videos. And then, yeah, unfortunately it failed miserably. I think our dynamic, me, Garrett and Steve was too strong and trying to add in another dude to like throw in the mix of that and try to create relationships individually with all of us. Yeah. And then also have that relationship with all three of us together.

And it was just like, it was a horrible dynamic. You're like 18, 19 years old. We had no idea. Oh, you're so young doing that. Yeah, we didn't know idea. I certainly had no idea, like, the amount of money you can make on YouTube and, like, that it could be an actual job. And when I started, like, to see the numbers, and then I was like,

frick, we're making a lot of money doing this. And, and, wow, this could be a thing. And it obviously freaking fizzled out and was horrible and died. And then we kind of went on for the rest of our lives. of doing what we normally did. And then obviously... That's when I met him. Yeah, that's when we met.

We talked. We were quarantined at Purcell Farms and filming some more videos. And we brought in more people. You know, Micah and George Brian and Bryce Butler. And like, we were bringing all these other people to, like, help film us, like, golf videos. And I kind of saw the group vibe again. And then that's from me and Garrett and Steve had to make the decision of like, all right, do we want to do this again?

And then if so, apparently there was, you know, a company that wanted to, you know, invest money into us and like here throw you guys some capital and then we can like we can kind of be the guys behind you and kind of help make a you know a business yeah and then from that pretty much good good was created is that that stress you out at all having like money that you had repay to some some like investor yeah having investors was unbelievably scary it was like because you know I've watched shark tank I'm not yeah I'm not incompetent I know how it works it takes your business from you and then you end up not owning it and you get a nice chunk of change but you know I was always like if I'm going to create a baby I kind of want to keep it yeah and if

I have to get rid of it I'm like what's the point of five years down the road I create this awesome thing and then I'm just going to give it away and yeah be left thinking well now what am I going to do so that was the biggest worry with having investors and investors is just like it's a scary term for 18 year old kid to hear um and I was just like please don't take over the company and you know I was thinking about Brody, and I was like, I don't want another situation like that. But then, you know, we met the team in Texas, and that's when we, like she was talking about, we kind of wanted to move to Texas because they were based in Texas and they wanted to keep us there. And like, you know, we'll build it here. This will be our home base. And then, you know, we just took the leap. And it was obviously

a great conversation and things moved in the right direction. We got to hear from all the investors individually on like what they could bring to the table and what they can do. And it was a great conversation. And I think if we didn't have that and it was like a phone meeting, I don't think it would be a thing. So I think having that like face to face and what they can bring to the table and what they can do change the The trajectory for all of us to actually want to do it Do you guys like living in Texas? Is that a good good spot? Great place to live not great for golf

Sorry Texas people you know Hey Phoenix is great I help but here here's the problem though too I'm used to mountains and like nature stuff I don't know I never heard what a cicada was until I moved there You know a cicada do you get have cicadas here? Yeah, we will we don't have them here I grew up with them. We'd have like the infestation of cicadas in Missouri every couple of years. I know they like don't hurt anyone. Like carcasses everywhere. I absolutely hate those things so much. My friend from here from my from Texas was like oh it's just summer white noise and I'm like no I don't like it. They were piling up two summers ago at your parents' house like crazy. Yeah. And so and they're at

least where we live we live up north of Dallas and so there aren't really any mountains. You know maybe on ant hills the most you get. I like mountains. Right, yeah. I like the mountains. And I grew up skiing and boarding. So, you know, that's been the hard change. However, we have grown such a good community there that I think it would be really,

really hard to leave. It would be very hard to leave. Because of the people. The people make the place. And once you have the baby, then. I know. Oh, yeah. Well, you're going to want probably like family around.

Like, we weren't even thinking about that when we got pregnant. But oh my gosh, it was so nice to have family that moved out to Arizona. Jonah just to like get to do life with us and our kids. It makes a huge difference. So my sister, they live like 15 minutes away from us. Oh, see.

So that's been amazing. And they have a daughter. That's great. They have a one and a half year old daughter. And then we have like our church life group. I don't know if that's like a common term. Yeah, yeah.

Okay, yeah, we have our life group and two of them are just had little baby girls. That's what I'm saying. Once you have babies somewhere, it's hard to leave. Yeah. So I'm like, we're all the same stage of life here. It's so nice.

Yeah. And I know the hard thing is it's so hard being away from my mom, but she comes down as often as she can. You know, and again, we'll see what happens from the baby's here. I don't, we'll see what happens. Our friends, they're here for residency and they were always intending on going back. But now we've, like, raised our kids together for so long. She's like, I don't know if we can go back at this point. I know.

Oh, it's so sweet. I want to talk about the baby because that's like my favorite thing to talk about. Yeah. Was this like a plan? Like, we're like, we're ready for, like, sharing kids or resigning? just like, because we love unplanned moments, honestly. Like, I mean, we've had one ourselves. Yeah, we did.

That was baby number two for us. It was a surprise. I love that. We, well, so, okay, so TMI, but we've been doing pole and pray for like the last three or four years ago. Okay. You gotta be careful with that one. Well, and so we were just, we were doing it.

And nothing never happened. And it started to kind of get in my mind. I'm like, is something actually, like, are we just, really good at pulling and praying or, sorry, it's such a weird thing to say. I love it. It sure is. It sure is. Pull and puller. It sure is. Pull and pray, baby. I'm like, are we just really good at that? Or is he just really good at that? You're a talented man. Clearly. No, no, I just keep talking about it. So it's actually, so I'm taking the next 30 minutes, we just kind of, we just dive into this. Oh my gosh. But I, and so I have really painful periods.

Like that's been something I've been really working through A lot of my adult life I actually remember I was in jewelry class in high school You did a jewelry class? Yeah, no, what the frick? She said that same thing I'm like, you didn't learn Mandarin Chinese? He's like what?

We had had a sluck corn. That's what we had. Yeah, we're in Queens like there was like one language It was called Tonganoxi Kansas And it was literally just a freaking I mean just by the name you're like Yeah, you guys picked corn or something didn't you? You freaking ate beans.

talking. Frican me. Shemone. Yeah. He said shimony. You said, Abby says jimony. Is that a kids' thing

to say jimony? I've never met another person in my life who I said. Can we wrap here? Thanks guys for watching the other than, my pregnancy podcast. I said that all the jimony Christmas. I'm like, and Matt goes, where did you get that?

I was like, you don't say that? You don't say that? And so sometimes I'll just say shimony. Shimony? Yeah. You're the only, well, I guess you're the only two people I know that do that. I have not met another Jiminy. So that's great to meet a fellow, great to meet a fellow sister in Christ.

Sister and Jimmy. Sister and Jimmy. That's crazy. Was it your like mom or dad or like uncle that said Jiminy? You can never know where you acquired it from. Yeah, how did you, do you know where you acquired it? Because Abby has no idea. It's a gene you have.

He just started. It's a good. Jimmy Gene. I'm like. Like Jiminy Cricky. You can say Jiminy Neutron. Like you can use. The newtron is one he's been saying a lot.

And I'm like, you know. You can use a lot. Yeah. This is one of those things that I'm just going to laugh about for way too long. Yeah, that's good. That's good. All right. What we're talking about?

Oh. Painful periods. Painful periods. We were talking about pull and pray. Painful periods. Yes. All the feet. Okay.

All the feet. Ha. I would have like these episodes where like when my period would start in school. and it wasn't like oh i'm feeling cramps i just need to like sit down it's like the like everything i'm doing stop doing it i like fall to the ground like i i i remember i left i was in jewelry class and i just left because i just i'm not going to ask a teacher i could i could barely even speak i just literally walked out of the room i had my phone and i texted my friends later once i could finally get to the bathroom to bring like my medicine and my stuff but that that's you know

and so i was used to all of that and then i got on on birth control to try to, you know, get rid of my periods. But then I did a lot of research into that and I wanted to do it a little more naturally. I wanted to heal. I didn't want a band-aid. I wanted to really heal what was going on. And so I've been in this like healing journey for forever. And, you know, I changed my diet. I changed this. And I'm sure those things helped, but the reality is I still, you know, I just had really painful periods to the point where, I mean, right before we started trying, which is, again, it's such a funny thing to say, like, we're trying to get pregnant. We know what you're doing. We know what you're doing.

before we did that. I mean, I think like the month before, again, my period started, and I know what happens when I start feeling the cramps, I just pop in my medicine because I just know what to do. But I think I just took a little too long this time because I, you know, so I take a shower. And I just took a little too long. And I was pretty much like on the floor in the bathroom for like a good hour

or something before the medicine finally kicked in. And it was like, like, so much pain, I'm like shaking. You know, like I'm going to throw up, but it's coming out this end and that end. It's like a weird, like I'm just in so much pain. And so being pregnant and not having a period has been wonderful. However, I had a consultation to get an endometriosis surgery, and I scheduled it five days before I found out I was pregnant. Oh, okay. Non-refundable deposit.

So I don't get any of that back. You're kidding. Why would they do that? $500. I don't get it back. However, I'm pregnant and I'm so blessed. I'm so happy with that. But, like, I felt so, I was so scared that I wasn't going to be able to because of all the noise around that and all the pain with that.

I'm like, okay, we really haven't been that careful, you know, the last couple years and I haven't gotten pregnant. And we've been trying for a couple months and it hasn't really been working. Clearly, there's something wrong because this isn't, this pain isn't normal. But it all, you know, God had a better plan and greater plan that I could have imagined. And here we are. That's so exciting. So yeah, and we'll see what happens when I get it again. I don't know what's going to happen.

We'll get their own because of there. Maybe it'll be better, honestly. People say that. People say it else. People have said that it has helped, like, help heal them. And so I'm really hoping that that is something. The pregnancy, so pregnancy has felt like a relief in some ways. In that way, for sure.

I mean, it's harder in other ways. But I always say, I was, someone asked me, they're like, what would you rather have? And I'm like, well, right now I'm creating a life. I'm like, I'm aware that I'm going to feel a little not. Exactly. There's a purpose behind it. I'm aware I'm going to feel tired or nauseous or hungry, like, all the time. Are you so hungry right now?

I was really hungry in the first trimester. Oh, I'm like better now. Really? You know, most people, my sister was too. She said she like lost weight in the first trimester because she could barely eat. Well, I, that, no, no, no. Okay. For everyone listening right now, their due dates are a week apart.

Wait, wait, are you saying your due date? Oh. Take that out. Yeah. No, no. I do July 29th. Okay. But then I just got my anatomy scan like two weeks ago or whatever weeks.

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site for details. Has it sunk in yet that like you are a dad now? No. No. Like what do you think it's going to hit you? Oh, um, I don't know. I think like that part of life, I guess for men, I feel like that doesn't happen until, like, those moments where you are actually a dad. Like, I feel like for the mother, it's just way different. Like, you guys start right away, especially if you're breastfeeding. Like, that part of life just starts. Like, you're a mother. Like, this baby can do literally nothing without you.

Dad, if I'm not here, the baby still survives. Not in a bad. Obviously, don't leave your baby, but I'm saying, like, if I am not here, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. If I am not here, mom can, mom takes care of baby, the baby survives. So it's like for me, I think that that part's going to come in, you know, later when, you know, kind of like where our niece's age is at, maybe a little before then, where she's maybe crawling around or, you know, she's a little bit more cognitive and whatever.

I think that's maybe where it'll start. Well, you told me you were like, you were like, there's not much I can do in those early, you know. Yeah, my job is, my job is to take care of her. Yeah. Like my job is to take care of Maddie. He was like, I have to take care of you so you can take care of the baby. Obviously, it's not saying that you're not helping out of the baby. but like, I mean, I can't.

I'm barely going to be able to help, you know, myself. So, you know, he's going to. So I think, I think for me, it's like when I have, when baby's born, like, I got to focus on being a husband first. Yeah. Like, as much as I'm going to want to, like, take over and take control, like, my job is to be a husband first. And if I make sure that she's okay and she's obviously not going to be at 100% for a very

long time, but, like, if I can take the steps to, you know, make sure the house is clean, there's the least like we talked about like a couple weeks ago like the least amount of stress that I can give her like those are the things that that I need to focus on I need to put my ego aside of like I need this baby and I got to do this and this this this this and like what can I do to help you so that this baby can actually survive and that you can survive you know so like those are the things that I'm mainly going to be focusing on and then you know once we kind of get a little bit more comfortable sleep schedules and things you know slowly start getting on track then it's like you know, now I can kind of maybe, you know,

focus on some of those things. But, yeah. There's so much unknown. Did you kind of feel like you were going to have a girl? I feel like I was always destined to be a girl dad for sure. I kind of feel like just talking to you. I'm like, I can totally see you having. He always gave me girl dad vibes.

Yeah. But from like symptoms that people were telling me, it seemed like we were going to have a boy. See, you've seen like a boy mom though, too. And that's what I'm saying. Yeah. But I also come from a family of only girls. Oh.

And so like I'm very used. used to just girls. Really? And that also feels very comfortable and safe. Okay. I also think there's definitely healing.

I think that he's going to have and that I'm going to have being a parent of a girl. You know, and I think that's going to be a very beautiful. Do you have a sister? Yes. I have two older sisters.

I mean, if you don't know anything about my story, I'm adopted from Russia, so they both still live in Russia. So I haven't been able to see them for, you know, 20 years or whatever. Oh, wow. But I do have two older sisters.

Victoria has two kids and Irene. Irene doesn't have any. Wow. Are you able to stay in touch with them? I mean, yeah, kind of. I mean, we Skyped a long time ago back in Kansas. But, you know, we had to sky with the translator. So, like, it was just very difficult, like, the communication between us and the translator

to try to get them on the same page. It was just, it was really difficult. But, yeah, you know, they haven't. So like we talk on Instagram and stuff. No way. He's like Google Translate. You know, you can say it's Russian English and they'll send out. Oh, that's cool.

So I haven't really grown up with a sister dynamic by any means. Yeah. But I did, I do have an older brother as well. So I, you know, I did have a sibling. So I know the sibling dynamic. That was adopted with him. Yeah. Oh no, so you and your brother were adopted from Russia and like, did you know that all

the time growing up or was there like a day that your parents were like, oh, by the way, we adopted you? There was definitely a time they told us because we didn't speak in English. And, um. He was like five. Yeah, I was like five. I was young and it took me a while to kind of, I think, get all that. I think I started to like learn. Like, I was obviously different from all the other kids because I didn't understand

what anybody was saying. Yeah. I was translator. I was kind of like, what the heck? So I think I slowly started to like figure it out in school. And then I'm pretty sure my parents told. I don't like remember the day that they told you're anything, but I'm pretty sure they told me like, hey, you guys are adopted from Russia and we're your parents now.

And they probably told us a whole story of what happened to your parents and you have sisters. and we tried to get them, and, like, they went through all that. I definitely remember, like, them talking about that. Wow. And then I, you know, always ask questions, you know, every now and then, questions would come up, and they'd do their best to answer them. But, yeah, pretty crazy stories. He's a pretty crazy story.

That is a crazy story. I tell him, I'm, like, the documentary of just, like, his, like, early childhood is cruel. It would be really good. Just from what your sisters and your little sibling group, two sisters and two boys had to go through, you know, before you were put in the orphanage and then before you were adopted, I mean, it's just you have such a crazy, yeah. What did, yeah, what did you and your siblings have to go through before you were put in an orphanage? I mean, you know, a lot. I mean, Victoria was like 11 years old. I think Irina was nine and David was six and I was, you know, four. And, you know, once my mom died,

it was like she was now the mom and the dad. And there was no. to like come in and check on them and like see how they're doing yeah so she had to like figure all of it out she had to figure out how are we going to get our next meal at 11 years old yeah 11 years old well before that it was um because he is a different dad than his three siblings yes i should probably say that yeah so david and my sisters are my half technically half um and i had another dad um and apparently like victoria mattie just made this really cool book for my birthday it's like my early life years and stuff so i was i was able to read that um And I've seen some of those pictures in there, some of them I haven't seen.

But, like, he would come in and, like, he would have me on his shoulders, and it looked like he was, like, kind of a good dad or whatever. But, you know, both of them struggled with alcoholism pretty bad. And I think there was one moment when my dad was like, I'm going to take Matt. And then they were like, no, like, you're not going to do that. So then he just kind of left, and then she was just left to kind of fend for herself with all of us. But she would be gone for – so I reached out to his older sister. a couple months ago and said, hey, there's so many gaps between his understanding of his

childhood. It's because we've heard things over the years, but the end of the day, we don't really know much. And so I reached out to her and I said, could you help clarify any of these things? Could you help give some kind of story, some kind of understanding of what that looked like before they were adopted? And she was a little hesitant. And again, this is all from English to Russian, Russian to English.

So it's kind of like you read it and it's like, it's kind of interesting in the way certain things are worded. but she was a little hesitant at first because she was just like it's a truly it's it's such a sad awful story and I don't and she said she's like I don't want him to know this because I don't I I just want him to be happy and I but then she got to the point where she said but if this is what he wants they'll share it and so she told she told the story with things that you didn't even know obviously things that I didn't know and when the the his siblings dad died her His mom fell into, like, alcoholism, and she'd be gone for, like, two to three days at a time.

And so that's when his older sister would take care of them and watch him. And they said they would go to the Catholic church down the street because they would go to the service, and they were fed at the end. And that's how they got their food. And they all slept in the same bed for warmth, she said. I mean, just go Russia, freezing. Freezing cold. It's like jumping back to, like, the 19, you know. 50s.

I mean, it's like, sue. And his parents were. saying like sewage on the streets you know yeah we've chatted with lDS missionaries that did a mission in russia and they said people would just like die freezing to death yeah they're just leave them on the street like that's how cold it is she she she came home drunk she fell hit her head she had a cerebral aneurysm and then froze to death yeah well like she froze in the street yeah yeah that's horrible and then his sister they had him for a little while until the authorities did anything about it and then so it was just them for just the just the kids and

then they were put in the orphanages, but they were separated because they had the girls and the boys. Yeah, that was tough. And she was saying she was like, she was like, it was the hardest day of my life because we were always together and we didn't have parents. We didn't have, you know, anyone who cared about us, you know, besides ourselves. And, and she's like, and she even said, she's like, she's like, Matt, and his name is Vadim was like my kid. It was like my child because I took care of him. and and then when the authorities came and picked him up the girls were taken one way and the boys were taken another way

but Matt was four so he was technically still supposed to go to the baby's house so then they separated them two and I mean just imagine like all the all the screaming crying tears of like little children who don't understand what's going on just being ripped apart from all they know that's that's what happened and then and then you know these two two people, Mike and Deb, and where were they living at the time? It starts with an M. Was it Missouri?

No, no, no. It was Minnesota. They were living in South Dakota, I think. They found an ad in an newspaper. There was an ad in the newspaper. A flyer on like a telephone pole. For you and your brother? Just adopting kids from Russia. Adopting kids from Russia.

So they're like, let's just go. Because they had fertility issues. It was like a seminar. So it was like come listen to our seminar about kids being adopted and stuff. And Mike was like hesitant because he was like, if I freaking go to the seminar, bro, I'm about to be crying, I'm about to get a kid. At least one.

At least one. So he wasn't even mentally prepared for that. And Deb's like, just shut up. Let's just go listen. There's nothing can happen. And here I am. And they change your life. Mike's a softy.

But how they do it is they actually fly all the kids down on a plane. So they flew all of the kids down. There was probably, what, 20 of you? Yeah, like 20 kids. Yeah, they flew all them down on a plane. And they actually come to live with the American parents for a month. And then these kids don't speak any English.

So they're going from like living in like hell to being brought to like this wonderful life where they have food and they're not freezing to death. McDonald's ketchup, dude. Apparently mac and cheese is like their favorite thing. Was that like, do you remember all this? I would eat it out of the cup. Wait, hold up. Do you remember flying

on a plane from Russia to the flying part vaguely because I'm sure I just slept the entire time but like literally when I landed I remember going to McDonald's seeing a French fry eating the like the little things that you push a little black thing, you know, and the ketchup comes out of the thing. I would really just sit there and eat the things out of the cup. The sauces? Yeah, the ketchup. I would just eat the ketchup out of the thing. That's what our kids do. That's what my three-year-old will do. He'll just eat the ketchup.

It's great. I'm like, I'm like, griffid, buddy. Put a fry in there. Like, wake up. What are you doing? But then they literally come off this plane and you have them for a month. And then they say, okay, now they're going back to Russia. So these kids are emotional and they pretty much are like having to be kind of like, like kind of drag, like put back on this plane. Why do they do it like that? I know. It's the most like, no wonder everyone has like these trauma issues that they have to work through when they're adults. Anyway.

They take them back. They take them back. And then the American parents have to go to Russia to claim them and go to the judges, buy off, do all that stuff. And actually just a couple years after he was adopted, they, Putin ended all adoptions. Yeah. So it was closed off. You couldn't adopt any kids from Russia anymore.

That's the thing now. So you can't even adopt from Russia. So they were able to get you and your brother back together. And, oh my gosh, that's crazy. And your sisters were still in the orphanage. Yeah, they tried to work a deal where they could get all four of us. But they just weren't having it. Yeah.

Yeah, they had to stay in their foster home. So they chose you and your brother because you were the youngest? I think so, yeah. Or I'm sure, like, a part of me wants to think like Victoria and Irene were like, take them. Oh, yeah. Like, I would like to think that that's kind of, like what they would say to them like take them in you if you can get us great but like 100% take them um and i know my parents probably you know fought tooth and nail to try to get them because

i and i sometimes wonder like how different that dynamic would have been if i had my sisters with me it probably would have been so much different both me and david would have been so much different in the way we acted i'm sure um and then having a sister you know sibling dynamic and just it all would have been crazy but um yeah that just unfortunately didn't happen so you met them in that month that you got to, your parents, that you got to come to the U.S. So then was it hard then to leave? Oh my gosh. I was freaking scratching and biting and crying and like, because in my, my reality was I'm going back to Russia to go back to where I was. Yeah. So these guys didn't like me. Like I didn't. It's so sad. I didn't, yeah. Like I, I, I'm sure I was saying like,

I didn't do something right or I didn't cry enough or I wasn't, you know, cute enough or, you know, all the freaking crazy sad stuff that you could think. And so then I'm thinking, well, now I'm going back. So they brought you to this seminar? Is that what this was? No, they were like, I thought, or they took me from like the orphanage to here. I stayed with a month and then they were taking me back. Oh, you went right to their house?

No, back to Russia, back to the orphanage. Well, when you landed in the U.S., sorry. Oh, when they got me. Yeah, you spent the whole month at their house. Yeah, yeah, I spent the whole month at their house. So they're like, test them out for a month. See how you like of it. It was Christmas, right?

No, no. What were those pictures? That's when they finally got me. That's when they finally got me. Okay. Oh my gosh. But there's a language barrier. The kids don't,

they don't get it. We had a translator like legit with us. So like they, like I couldn't even communicate with them. Like I was, they were just taking me to go do fun stuff. Yeah. And that was it.

Also, you came right out of the hospital. You came, sorry, you came right out of the plane and they had to go, they had to take him straight to the hospital. Yeah. Because right before he went on the plane to Russia, he put his eye in a beehole.

And so his face was all swollen. Oh my God. the plane and they're like we got to go to the hospital. His first thing was the hospital where they went. That must have been a miserable flight. Shout out David. Yeah. Yeah, that was, I'm sure that was horrible. Yeah, I mean. What a crazy experience. Is all this like so traumatic you just kind of like forgot about it? Like your brain was just like, I don't want to remember that anymore. Um, I'm sure my brain kind of does that naturally maybe. I don't know. But I, no, I don't really remember, like, you know, all that kind of crazy stuff, I don't think.

So, like, your first memories then are just, like, growing up in the United States then, for the most part? Well, I mean, I have the memories of, like, looking in the bee, like, David telling me to look in the bee hole and getting stung by the bees. And then, like, you know, going on the plane. I remember I was playing in the orphanage with one of my best friends, apparently in the orphanage. Her name was Denise. I don't know if this is with her or someone else, but, like, I was playing with a blue truck that I loved a lot. and I just remember some kid like taking the blue truck

and like breaking it and then like leaving and then I remember that and I was crying or whatever so like I remember that memory so there's like bits and pieces of stuff that I remember but I don't think there's enough

to like piece together to like remember all the crazy trauma but from what I've learned from like from like what psychologists and therapist and like people have really found out is that you know those early years even if you don't remember it

it's still like in your cognitive your body and your and so what's interesting is him and his brother they're actually, they're alike in a lot of ways, but they're different in a lot of ways. And it's because his brother went to the big kid orphanage and Matt went to the baby orphanage. And the big kid orphanage, you kind of had to fight for what you want. And in the baby orphanage, the cuter you are, the more the love and attention you get.

Oh, my God. So, and that, but the thing is, they don't remember much of that, but it plays into who they are now. Yeah. And you can see that in how his brother is and then how he is. And so it stays within you, you know, it's, it's, even though it was so. early on. I mean, the thought of having, you know, being ripped away from your sisters and ripped away from everything you knew has to, still, you know, it's in you somewhere, you know, even if the memory isn't exactly there. Yeah. That's so wild. It's so cool, too, that you, like, went back and,

like, started to piece some of that together. Yeah, it's such a cool book. Well, because especially now that, like, we're having this movie, I'm like, I want them to know his story. And we don't have any photos of him from before he was like five, four or five. And so, um, and so we, when we were talking, like, I wonder what she's going to look like. I wonder, you know, all these things. I wonder how she's going to act. And I'm like, well, who knows, who knew him during this time? So that's when I reached out to his sister and found out all of these things. And I was so emotional. And I was, it wasn't telling him because I wanted to save for his birthday. But I was learning all these things. And I was originally going to save that story for his birthday. But I was like, I don't, I don't think this is something you should.

I got to share this with him before. This is like heavy on my heart because it's just so heartbreaking and real and just hard. And so I told him and we talked about it and she sent over

all the things she had and we were kind of talking back and forth and one day you're going to meet them. Yeah, one day I will for sure. They won't come here which... It'll be a neutral location like the UK or... We'll have to go to a neutral location

because of political Because of the war in Ukraine. So, yeah, like that, you guys have to meet, like, in Paris or something. Yeah, we'll have to meet, like, UK, Paris, like some neutral location. Yeah. Interesting. Because there's no direct flights from, yeah, U.S. to Russia and Russia. No, right.

No, I think you fly into the UK and then you fly into, like, Minsk or Moscow or something, I'm sure. Yeah. How do you feel about the ban on adoptions where you can't, like, adopt from Russia anymore? I mean, from my perspective, yeah, for. freaking sucks because I'm sure there's two other cute little boys or two, you know, girls or whatever that would just absolutely like their lives of 100%. I can almost confirm 100% would be different. Yeah.

You know, maybe not as blessed and as, you know, where I'm at, but I know their life would 100% be different than what they would have received if they stayed in Russia. Well, if you were still in Russia, you'd probably be, you'd be in the war. Because you'd be in the orphanage. Or I would have just died on the street. Like it's, I mean, who's to say. You go to the military at 16, you know.

Put you in the military at 16? Well, he's a boy, he doesn't have how many parents. That's probably, I mean, I would have probably went there by choice for sure. Because in the military, I think, oh, that'll at least feed me. Or, you know, I'll get to be inside. I don't know. That's what's so sad about all these global conflicts is, like, the people that end up dying are always the people that are just, that have nothing. Like, it's just, it's just poor people.

It's people that get sucked into it. Yeah, they're just pawns in it, right? The people making the decisions at the top aren't actually having to, like, go and give their life. Right. Exactly. Man. So the decision to start your own family was like... It's a big one.

It's a big one. Yeah. And we're still thinking about, you know, adopting as well. Yeah, I was going to ask. That adoption process. Obviously, we would have loved to adopt from Russia, but yeah, adoption is definitely, it's definitely on the table and we'll kind of have to navigate how all that looks because obviously it's so much different, but we definitely want to do it.

Which is interesting because I've actually, when I've told people that I've had people say to me, like, you know, I want to think twice before. adopting and I'm like because you know people have really hard stories and you know which is fair yeah sometimes it is fair um but in my experience from what I've seen I'm like I can't imagine I'm I can't imagine him not being here like if I had the opportunity to bring and someone even anyone even close to him to this to to have a better life I'm a pretty rare case I feel like I got Well, I'm just saying, it, it, you know, the, the less older you are, like the younger you are, you're going to remember less naturally. So, like, if you adopt a two-year-old or four-year-old, it's going to be different if you adopt an eight-year-old or an 11-year-old.

Like, they're going to remember so much more and that trauma is going to be so much harder to deal with as a parent. And when they're freaking yelling at you that you're not their mom or you're not their dad, like it's just going to be so much harder. And I had those moments. Like, I know what that feels like. Yeah, and I had those moments because I did it. Like, you know, you're not my mom, you don't know anything. So it's like I did those moments to my parents. And David did those moments.

So, like, I couldn't even imagine doing it was someone who's freaking 10 or 11 years old who remembers even more. So, like, that stuff's just, you know, it's not an easy, like, I'm a very rare case. You know, I'd like to think that I'm, I've been a pretty good son to them. I didn't really, you know, I was, you know, I had my horrible moments, sure, but I'd like to think that I was pretty good. But that comes from me not remembering as much. Yeah, you know. And I think, like, I threatened to run away from home when I was a kid and put, like, saltine crackers in a backpack. Oh, yeah.

I had a little suitcase. I did that kind of crap, too. Yeah, 100%. But, like, to imagine, like, going through that with the adoption situation must make the tension so much bigger. Because, like, as a kid, you're going to be. Yeah, because as a kid, you're like, yeah, they're not my parents. I'm making the right. And, like, as the parents, you're like, ah, like, this is so hard.

I don't know what to do. Like, so that's, that's tough. So your parents are probably incredible people. and you seem like a really good person too. So I'm just happy that like everything worked out. And it's also like you guys are living the American dream, by the way. Like it's cool how like you're from Russia, you came here. Now you're like a successful YouTuber, like have a golf channel where you and your buddies play golf and have a golf brand.

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This deal is not available on the regular website. Go to h-I-Y-A-H-E-A-L-T-H-T-H-T-H-E-A-L-T-H-L-T-H-L-T-T-T-L-L-T-T-E-L-L-T-E-L-T-E-L-T-E-E-L-E-E-L-E-E-RU-E-E-E-RU-E-E-E-RILL-E. Okay, well, let's get in some questions from our audience because they have been, you know, so curious about some different things. So the first question we have is from Ash K-15. She said, will Matt be taking a break from Good Good with the arrival of the new baby? Man, break is an arbitrary term. Like, what does that exactly mean? I will definitely be taking some time off if that's kind of where we're going with that for sure.

I'm going to take my month's sabbatical and be with Maddie. Yeah, month sabbatical taking a break, not doing anything good, good. You know, if I need to like hop on a phone call or something, like I can do a meeting or whatever. There are good. It's paternity leave. Paternity leave. Subatical. Like when you take a like when you take a sabbatical like you're taking it. I know it's called PTO.

No, no. Not PTO. Oh my gosh. That's pay time off. I thought sabbatical is when your brain, you like, mentally, you like mentally, I think it's when you mentally need a break and they're like, you're going on sabbatical. Am I making that up?

We've all never worked a job. We're all YouTubers and TikTokers. I mean, I will be mentally checking out, I guess, because I'm going to be putting all of my mental focus on this. So I guess I'm doing both. Perfect. Anyway, big words. Oh, that's funny.

So yes, I will be taking minimum a month break. And then like our next big trip is, we're trying to plan for Japan in September. So like, I'm going to try to plan to do that. That's exciting. Wait, what's bringing you to Japan? I mean, we've been wanting to go over there. It's such a huge golf country, you know.

Really? And we would love to, we would obviously love to go do like a cool Japan road trip. I think I'd be sick. Wait, are you going to Japan? No. I was going to say that's so brave. Absolutely not. I'll be about six weeks postpartum at that point.

Yes. if I give birth again beginning of August, end of so I think six months, oh my gosh, six weeks. I'll be six weeks postpartum and I think that's a good Yeah.

I'll be taking a break but I will not be leaving. I think a lot of people be like, oh Matt's not, Matt hasn't been content for two months. Is he quitting? Is he quitting? No.

No. He'll still be updating. Yeah, I'll still be updating the Instagram and freaking still posting and still telling people that stuff. Here's the thing. It's like,

I know it's going to be hard, especially, like, leaving me and, like, the baby. But, like, you do find so much purpose, and you're so cute. You do find so much purpose in working. You love your job. And, like, that's such a gift to, like, love what you do. And so, like, I can't imagine. Like, I can't imagine as a wife being like, oh, you can't work anymore. You can't do good, good anymore. Like, it's, it's been such a blessing in our lives. And it's, and you love it. Yeah, I freaking, you know. It's so much fun. Oh, that's sweet.

But yeah, I'll take a break and then I'm getting right back into it for sure. People are asking, this is from Alexis Hope 579, what's the baby's name? That was a bit aggressive question, Alexis. Yeah, that's crazy. Because like, I don't know.

What's the baby's name, period. Well, we're still kind of figuring that out. We're 100% sure on the last name. Okay. It is sharp. So there's your answer. There's good. So you can count on the last name being sharp

And we're still figuring out, you know. Are there any baby names that you liked that you won't be using? Because that's like a, that's like a trend, you know. Aluminium. Alibon. Toaster struddle. Toaster struddle was kind of a big one for me. That's a great name though, dude.

Yeah. I love eating toaster. First name toaster, middle name strudel. Yeah. I thought that was going to be kind of cool. We liked, we actually had some boy names. Holy fric. Actually, it was funny.

We had more boy names than we did girl names. For some reason, girl names were just harder for me. They are hard. Boy names kind of came quick and easy. I'm like, I love this and this and this and this. Like, we like so, we had so many boy names that we were loving. And then the girl, we're like, we just don't know. So sorry, Alexis, Sharp is all you get.

Yeah. We liked, we liked Anastasia. Yeah, we did love. Because it was like a Russian kind of name. Yeah. But we wanted to call it Anastasia. Anastasia. But then it's like so confusing.

People won't say that. People just say, Anastasia. Because we're like, we're like, probably not. Especially living in Texas, my good way. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. What was another name we liked that we didn't, that we had, that we put off, that we're not doing?

Was there another A name? We had a lot of J names. Oh, yeah, like, uh, like Jema or was that Jemma? I was like Matt, I really like Jolene. He goes, no. I said, okay. Okay. Jolene.

There's a whole song about her. The whole song about her. That's a great Texas name. People could pronounce that one in Texas. Well, and for a, and for a girl. guy, Matt, there was a good little moment there where Matt really wanted to name our son Jedediah because

Jedi. I can name my son Jedi. Oh yeah, you're a big Star Wars guy. And you're in the Legos. You love like the Lego stuff. I was just going to name him Lego, but I couldn't do that either. I don't get what I want. I guess all these questions are from Matt because this is from Madeline June 7. Share your favorite dad

joke. Because apparently you just have dad jokes in the freaking jokes in the freaking can. Oh, wait, do you hear about that circus fire last week? It was intense. It was crazy. That was good.

The circus is coming here. Oh, my gosh. No, wait, we're having a circus come to Arizona. Well, I'm not having that. I also probably think it's ethical. I'm not having that. Why is good, good, not in Arizona? I feel like Arizona's like the Gulf State of America. Like, don't we have more golf courses here?

No facts. Why to, uh, yeah. I don't know. We're with you. Like, or like Augusta, isn't like Georgia? Probably the taxes. Georgia has a lot. The taxes are unbelievably good for businesses in Texas. That is great.

That is good. But we're here a lot. I mean, you guys do like a. Even if we were in Phoenix here, we would be traveling everywhere. Like we probably would have done everything we still did. That makes sense.

It was more of like our investors and everybody was already stationed there and the people we were working with were there. Got it. And like they already had like plots of land that we could build our warehouse or build our like little good, studio. It's like they already had that and they're like,

we're just going to do it here. And you travel like every week, right? Pretty much. Yeah. So we weren't even going to be. Okay. So that makes sense. Yeah. There we go. Okay.

Cid. Sid, that least said, why did you return to TikTok, Maddie? Why did I? Why did you or why didn't you? I don't know if this is a, did they have a typo?

Have you been off TikTok? You've been like taking a great, right? I don't think I've returned. I don't think I returned. Oh, you've been gone. Well, again, I used to post two videos a day. I mean, I was cooking. You know, 16, 17, 18, 19, 19, 20-year-old me was cooking.

Yeah. And I was doing all that. I just, I think we're just at that point where I think I kind of just post when I want to post, what I want to post, not because I have to. And there was a time where it was a survival thing. I posted because I had to. Yeah. And he does so much social media for the both of us now.

Like, I mean, Go Good Good really has exploded in these last six years where I'm not necessarily in survival mode like I was when I was like 16. which, you know, might sound funny. It's like, you're only 16 years old, but what was going on in my life, it was definitely a survival mode. So I think I've been able to, like, relax now, and I'm enjoying feeling at peace. Nice. So you're going to be, like, a stay-at-home mom kind of thing.

Like, is that going to be? And, oh, well, we do do stuff. Like, I help manage most of his, like, personal stuff because I love, I love sending a good email. I love, I love, you know, to click, quack. To click, clack. And I, so I still do like stuff on that side. I still do like my own content things, you know, just kind of when I want to, not necessarily because I have to.

I don't know what that's going to look like when I'm a mom, though. I don't know how much of that is going to change. I don't know. I think we're entering this phase of a lot of like unknowns. Like I just, I don't know what it's going to be like. I've heard stories. I've heard some people give me great things. Some people say like really scary things.

And so it's like I, well, I had this girl say to me and my baby shower. People will say crazy. She said, just so you know, you're going to absolutely hate your life. Oh. She goes, she goes, all moms hate their life. You're going to hate your life. I'm like in like cute little pink dress. I was like, and like everyone has their own story and everyone has their own experience.

And I'm not trying to, you know, say that. I just also, I'm going to, I don't necessarily need that energy. Yeah, like not the time. I'm going to absolutely hate my life. Like I want to, you know, try to, you know, at least tell myself, I believe in the power of how we speak to ourselves and what we put out there. I'm going to try to do as much positive as I can than negative. Like we can still be realistic as like woman to woman, mom to mom, but then also like speak highly of motherhood. Right, right.

There are so many joys still. Got to follow it up with something. Yeah. But it wasn't. It was followed up horribly. It was just, it was a wild. It was a wild little change. Yeah.

I was feeling pretty excited about it. I know, I know. But that's the thing, like, there's going to be so many unknowns. I don't know what it's like to have a newborn baby. I don't know what it's like to be, when we're moving together six years. I don't know what it's like for us to be married and live our life together with a baby. Yeah. Like, it's a whole new chapter of our lives, but I'm trying to really enjoy the last couple of months where we close off this chapter of just him and I.

And then as we start our new book, like I'm, you know, I'm excited. I'm excited for it than I am, you know, more nervous or anxious. And it can be really quick to get anxious. So I'm trying to be in like, you know, a state of like chill. No, that's a great way of looking at it. That's a great. Hold up. I just remembered a question that I wanted to ask that I totally forgot to ask.

Is it true? You guys, you guys did like a kids free wedding, right? Right? Like no kids? Oh, yeah, we did. Whose idea? Whose idea was no kids at the wedding? Kind of mix. Listen, we had...

Kids are great, but I mean... You had a small wedding, huh? Yeah. We had a very small wedding. And we did it in like one of our good friends's backyards. Well, first of all, call that a backyard. I'm like, we walked in and I'm like, this is a backyard. Oh.

It was, it was beautiful. But technically it was a backyard. And my mom's boyfriend, he set up this whole, like, lit up tent. But if someone, if a child were to, go and pull on it. And like kick it. It could like caught. They had a pool and everything.

They had a pool. Concrete with sharp edges. I'm just like man. Last thing I need is that. It was less than like 70 people. Like it was a very small wedding. And so plus like my, my, my, I didn't have any friends with like babies either. Yeah.

So it's like there wasn't there's, I don't have the kids in my life. Obviously if like like nowadays like three years, now I have like tons of babies in my life. Right. If we got married right now, it would have been like, there. There are so many flower, flower children. Flower children. children. But that just wasn't the case three years ago. Right. And so yeah, but yeah, we did have a kids free, kids free wedding. And you know what? I had a lot of parents actually say they really

enjoyed it. Oh nice. They left the kids at home. Yeah, they were like, we actually really enjoyed this because we could just chill and like have, have a date night to ourselves. Yeah. And I was like, you're welcome. Let's go. Let's go. Okay, so instead of having flower girls, did you have beer boys? Beer boys? No. We literally. I had a, well, Let's see, we had, I had Garrett and Steve. Yeah, it is. I've never heard of beer boys. It had sunglasses on, there was a bunch of boys going out.

I forgot about that. I love that. Yeah, I've seen that. It was a disco-themed wedding that we went to. Remember that? Oh, disco-themed. That's fun. Everyone's wearing like all bedazzled up with like rhinestones and stuff.

So here's something interesting. I wore the wrong thing. Me too. I did not, yeah. My whole family is LDS, so no one drinks. Yeah, there's no alcohol. There's no alcohol at our weddings. We didn't do any alcohol.

One, because we... We also don't drink. We also don't drink because of other, whole other reasons. But it was crazy to think nobody else. I mean, I'm pretty sure alcohol is like good for you, right? Like it's like... Yeah, it actually really is good for you. I actually, yeah, I heard it's like, helps you know, in every way.

And it doesn't cause cancer, which is like the best. No, not. Apparently. I'm sorry. I stopped because of my own hormonal issues and then he stopped because of his own... Yeah, back problems and all of the everything, which comes with that. So, but then it's like, okay, we could. buy liquor but like actually a lot of the good guys don't even drink like a lot of them are like

you know recover you know from their own things oh really they're like they were like alcoholics and they're like alcohol free now yeah i think bobby and brad yeah bobby has a crazy story brad also is a crazy story yeah so um so really only people who would really drink would be like less than like six probably people yeah i was about to pay for that and i'm like i'm not i'm like yeah so i i told them i told i told him i told i I told Steve, I said, B-Y-O-B. Bring your own.

You want something, bring your own. But no one did, because it's like, I don't know. But yeah, no one in my family drinks, so we just didn't even have to do that. So we did not have beer boys. But that's a good idea that I will give to the next person. What could it be? You could do Ollie Pop boys.

The Ollie Pop boys. Thank you to Ollie Pop for sponsoring our podcast. Wait, why is it that like, oh, in like the LDS world, because nobody drinks at all? Like what would be a good like beer boy like substitute? Would it be like a, oh, it could be like a swig boy. Swig boy. And they're like doctoring up your soda for you in the aisle.

Like if you had a swing at a wedding, oh my gosh. Well actually. That would pop. Can I say something? That's actually very common. I've been to many Utah weddings where they have soda bars. No way. Soda bars is a, it is a very normal thing.

That's so fun. Wait, oh my gosh. Have you tried coffee now? I have, I do drink coffee. You drink coffee often or you're like, eh, do you don't like it? I actually really enjoy coffee and tea. Okay. She loves shite tea lattes.

I love it because they say they don't, any caffeine. Well, that's not true, I guess, technically, because they have like, they do monster drinks and stuff. The word of, the word of wisdom just like outlaws coffee itself. So that way like, that way like red bull and monster are cool. And then not herbal teas. That's right. Herbal tea is cool. Right.

Black tea, not cool. Not cool. Not cool. Yeah. Yeah. See, when we lived in Hawaii, we didn't know that. There's a lot of Mormons in Hawaii. There are.

So all of our friends, that's why we have so many more. We have so many Mormon friends because we were right by the school. We moved five minutes from the La Jai Temple in Ottawa. So like we, like half our friends are Mormon now. So it's like I know, I know this stuff. But I still love talking about it. I think it's fun. Oh yeah, no.

I love a good swig. Most people in my life are actually LDS. You know, like all my good friends, they're LDS. So it's still very much a, you know, common topic and normal thing in my life. We just are not that. And I have to switch between like Mormon and LDS because like people that like everybody knows what Mormon is but then like the respectful term is LDS because like that's what was just recently changed.

That's like that's like that's like that yeah. Yeah. The prophet came out and said we don't want to be known as Mormons anymore. We want to be known as LDS or the Latter-day Saints. Totally. Yeah. So I have to catch myself there too because well growing up I would I just have referred myself as Mormon because I thought that was that was a good thing.

Yeah. I didn't see it as a bad thing. And then, you know, in the last couple years, I'll talk with my friends. They're like, well, as a Latter-day Saint, and so I've been like, okay, to be respectful, I need to stop saying this Mormon thing. I feel like to start saying this. The musical probably. I think it was the music.

Yeah, I'd tell you. I didn't help. The Book of Mormon. The Book of Mormon musical really. I think that was the reason they're like, we are going by Latter-day Saints now. We're changing it now. Yeah. We got 15 minutes.

Let's ask a couple. We'll play a little Who's More Likely Action, if that's okay. Well, can you ask? Can you ask the first who's more likely question? Are we competing in this game, by the way, Addy? Do you know? Is it just for them? Oh, okay.

You guys are in the hot seat. We're going to play a little who's more likely and by we and see you guys. This one's fun. This is kind of like new parent edition. So to be parents. Who's more likely to cry when the baby cries? Like out of stress?

Just sorrow. Pure empathy. Well, because everything's, making me cry right now. I am so emotional because of everything. Like literally I saw a bird limping. I'm in tears. No, literally. Today at many minjas they played you'll be in my heart as and it's like, for one so small. My kids are like doing monkey bars and I'm like, so I was crappy. Everything is making me emotional right now. That don't listen to that song. That one will get you. Who is more likely to panic Google every symptom at 2 a.m. I feel like you,

You would do it secretly. No. You would do it secretly. I would, first of all, I would chat GPT. Second of all, it's you. Second of all, it's you. She said she thinks you do it secretly. I do not do it secretly.

I just, I'm a man so I know everything. Who does it between us? You Google. I'm the one. You like panic and you're like, look it up, Matt. I don't know. No, no, I take him straight to the doctor. I'm like urgent care now.

Abby is the doctor queen. Yeah, I'll take them. Like when one time our kid was like like on the verge of like croup and stuff, I went at like like 1140 like before the Walgreens close to buy a humidifier so he could breathe. Oh, because I'm like the best dad. Yes. Right. Right. Wow.

I don't remember. You don't remember that. Well, it's funny because I've literally already looked up a lot of random things. I'm like, is this supposed like in the pregnancy aspect? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, pregnancy opens. Is this supposed to change colors?

Is this? Just everything. And the answer is. Yes. I learned that now. But I did not, that was something I was not prepared for. No, I still learn new things all the time. I'm like, wow, gosh, fourth time around, here we go.

Who's more likely to fall asleep during a middle of the night feeding? Probably you. I've got the, I'm feeding, so probably you. And then I'll wake you up to do this. You will fall asleep and you'll get in trouble for it. Because why wouldn't you? Like, I want you just like to sit there and watch as I feed, like rest, take a break. And then did the diaper change?

Yeah, okay. Okay, he's agreeing. Who's more likely to insist the baby looks like them? I... I... Yeah, maybe. I'll take that one. I don't know.

But it's because I've already been saying that I really feel like the baby's going to look like him. Like I... But, like, also... I got to have a couple, so I just put a hand in a lot. I feel like girls tend to favor their dads. Yeah, I'm impressed by these faces you're making. Like, you're... You do these like insane features.

I can't even, I can't even. Yeah, I don't even okay are either. Don't ask me now. I can't. How do you get your face to do that? But like for you- Don't ask me. But like for you guys with your kids,

like do you, because like I- You gotta meet them after this? I love, I love, like I'm sitting here, I'm like I can't wait for her to look like him. That's what I wanted and then they look like me. Really. I'm too long. Not that.

But I want, I want, you know, I know I want that so bad. And have you guys had that at all? I wanted my voice to look just like mad. They're so cute. Rapid fire. Go. Who's more likely to be overprotective in public?

He already is. He has to sit. I can't sit if he doesn't have like, okay. I got to see the entire restaurant when I sit. There you go. That's what I get to say. Go. Oh, and then say me or say him or her because then like people listening can't see us like

raven your hands. Okay. Him. Okay. The mail. Okay. All right. The male man.

This is so organized. Who's more likely to turn a small disagreement into a massive brawl? Female. Female. Why don't I raise my hand? Female, woman. Maddie. Female, male.

Oh my gosh. Who's more likely to need alone time? Probably me. I don't know. I feel like that's going to be you because you're going to be a baby on you 24-7. Yeah, so probably me, right? Maddie. Fail, vote.

Female? Who is more? more likely to overshare online. Maddie? No, so false. So false. He'll do streaming stuff. And I'm like,

pulling, he's a streamer? That's definitely Matt. He's a streamer? Yeah, as I'm like, pull and pray. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, no kidding.

We can talk about that all. Mix. Who is more likely to read comments? Matt. Matt. Yeah, for sure. My life, I do it at 247. That's our same, too.

Who is more likely to buy unnecessary bags? Baby gadgets. Maddie? First of all, unnecessary or necessary? Both. When you read comments, are you reading like positive stuff? No, I read the negative stuff, Matt, that fucking ruins my life. What kind of question is that?

Well, you could read 100 good comments and then one bad comment can just... Thanks my life. You're like, gosh, dang it! It takes my life. Which you do get a lot of, you tend to get more... I tend to get a lot more hate, but that's for another combo. Oh, no. It's just because he's himself.

It's just because he's himself. Oh, they just don't like him. People like don't pick up on the sarcasm. That is like, that's so not what I meant. I meant because he's. So people just don't like him. No, no.

It actually breaks my heart because he is like the sweetest person ever. It's because he's really fun. He's funny. He's really funny, but if people don't like the humor. People think it's always, people always think it's forced and like I'm purposely trying to do it. But it's just who he is. I'm sorry.

You guys have already seen multiple times him do some like kind of funny little things over here. I was raised in a dry sarcastic family. It just makes it's a language that some people just don't know. They just, yeah. The internet doesn't know. Yeah. Exactly. The reason that you're getting hate is the very reason that my brother-in-law likes your

videos. Because it's the dry humor. That's why. That's why he had. some of the strongest fans and the strongest families at the same time people love and then I have the people that hate me it's like that's kind of work but the people that hate you just probably don't understand comedy is that that's they might not what I say they're just a lower IQ oh god yeah wow boom boom

no 100% I don't read I'm wheezing too much first of all people who hate comments already I just think have a low-me they're just kind of feel bad like you're so miserable that you're gonna go comment on this person's video something that just to hurt them. Yeah. It's like, good job, buddy. Good job, I hope you feel big, big now. I know.

Who's more likely to be the fun parent? What is fun? Goofy. Matt. Fine, I'll take that one. I feel like, goofy, you know. Who's more likely to start talking about baby number two? Oh.

Oof. Ooh. I feel like that's gonna be you. No? I don't know. Dang it, that's another mix one. You should be prepared. There's something that hits at six months postpartum.

Really? It just. That keeps you away or keeps you want? It makes you want to do it right away. Well, that's what they say. They say like the mom's like, I hate this. It sucks. And then they have the baby in there like, you know what?

I can do that again. Yeah, literally. Literally. It's crazy. We have a friend who the guy's like, I want a baby right now. She's like, I need to, I need to sec. Yeah, I know that. I know people like that too.

I'm just sick in the head. Who is more likely to turn into a baby when they're sick? Hey. I like that. Honesty. Self-awareness. But here's the thing, he's really not sick often. And with my period, it's like I'm sick a couple days every month.

And so he takes care of me so often. I'm looking at myself. No! No! You earn this one. Anyway, that's what I'm looking at. He takes care of me so much. So, like, the very few times that he's ever sick.

I let her have it. Fricking, you kidding me? Who's more likely to make the parenting rules, like be the stricter parent? That's gonna be such a mix. We actually align on like most of, like, we'll talk and if like if someone says, hmm, I don't necessarily know if I agree with that. And then we talk about it and then we're on the 100 for the same. I love that.

That's very healthy. Who's more likely to take on an intruder? Hmm. Well, even with all the whole Just in Case series, you just, that's how you'd be right. You're like, I lost. We've actually talked about this. The cats! No, it'll be me.

Here's what, here's what we've talked about. I, my first, my first instinct is, going to go to get the baby. Like, that's going to be me. You go do that. I mean, he just went, she was shooting a couple days ago with some of the guys in my family. And you're a good shot. You actually are good.

For me, like my, as long as you have your glasses on. Like, for me, the middle of the night. You're sleeping. I'm just, I'm just a little delir. I don't know. I think that's, and I, and I loki think in like the weirdest way, you kind of loki want it. It's like, you kind of low key want like a zombie apocalypse. Every dude does, right?

They all want the zombie apocalypse. He believes, like, if the zombie apocalypse happens, I will survive. And I'm like, unless you lose your glasses. Let's run out of context. That was our last one. That was good. Well, hey, you guys, this was amazing.

This was so much fun. Getting a shout with you both. Where's the best place for people to connect with you both online? Instagram. Probably Instagram. I mean, you know, YouTube for me. I read comments and stuff. and I'll talk to you guys through there.

But yeah, probably Instagram is the easiest way. Or join his streaming stuff. Or join my streams. Matt Scharf on YouTube. Whatever. Shout out. Well, sweet, you guys. Well, this was amazing.

We really enjoyed laughing with you guys. This is fun. This is so fun. Yeah, I genuinely laughed a lot. Yeah, let's go. I'm so glad we could do a little pit stop. Yes, thanks for doing that. Seriously.

Yeah. Everyone go follow them and subscribe and like the button. I want to know. Oh my. I think it's going to be Star Wars coded in some way. Okay. Oh, interesting. Do you have a name that goes with that?

Melanian. I need to do a... Baby yoga. Laia. Leah? That's the only Star Wars girl name I know. Is that Russian? That's not Russian.

No. Bonus points if it's Russian in some way. It's one of the only girl names in Star Wars that isn't like... I know. Our kids are in the young Jedi, which you might find is on Disney Plus. It's like kids. Yeah, yeah. Kids show and they will have the books.

and I'm like, like, I can't pronounce that one. You're not naming your kid Padme or Sabine. I might need to consult you so I can read some of their books more accurately. That's awesome. Thanks so much, you guys. You guys are a blast.

Appreciate it.