The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Baby #3, trying for a girl, and getting a hair transplant

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

In this episode, we share why Matt’s changed his mind about baby number three. We also talk about the Shettles Method, a theory on how to increase your chances of having a girl. Matt opens up about his upcoming hair transplant, we celebrate our sixth wedding anniversary and give some fun life updates. This episode is sponsored by Magic Spoon, Cash App & Hiya: Magic Spoon: Go to ⁠https://magicspoon.com/UNPLANNED⁠ and receive $5 off. Cash App: Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/kssum24w #CashAppPod Hiya: Go to ⁠https://hiyahealth.com/UNPLANNED⁠ and receive 50% off your first order. Get your kids the full-body nourishment they need to grow into healthy adults. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Rocketmoney.com slash unplanned. I think we do want to have more kids. I never questioned it. You never? It was you. When you have little kids, it's a lot. You're like, this is never gonna end. I don't blame you, I'm the crazy one.

No, I think having a little girl would be so sweet just because I want to see you also have a little girl. It'd make you more emotional. You like it when I'm emotional? I've never seen you be emotional Because apparently we talk about sex too much. I see that sometimes people are like wow you guys talk about sex too much I'm sorry guys. We are married. You should miss real life We talk about it way more is it wrong to be attracted to the minor version of your spouse

Why are you asking me that question? I feel like that could be perceived in such a creepy way Why are you asking me that question? I feel like that can be perceived in such a creepy way Welcome back to the unplanned podcast We are your host Matt and Abby and today Abby will be singing a rendition of Moana from Disney itself I had to look up those lyrics because every single time I hear that song I'm like it gets stuck in my head and then I'm seeing it I'm just going shiny dun-da-na-na- still like I gotta work on the lyrics so I can stop driving myself crazy You're mine everyone around me today. What the heck Moana is a big big thing in our house It's a big part of our house of our household. I'm I say that it's true

Like you guys went and saw Moana jr. Wait that is this, okay, so Abby's friend told Abby about this Moana show that was coming to town? Oh, what, okay. I told her. Oh, you told your friend about? There was like a professional traveling Moana, like regional performance. Okay.

I was like, oh, dang that, it's literally this weekend because her son loves Moana too. And so I was like, we could take the boys like a little Moana like live show date. I were like, oh man, it's this weekend. That's not really a great time. And then she's like, wait, I found better dates. They're later, they're at the very end of June.

I was like, oh, that's perfect. Send me the link. I didn't see those dates. Sent me the link. It was actually like a community. It was Moana Jr. And the performers were middle school kids, really, really sweet.

It was so sweet. But I think my favorite part is Griffin was just as entertained as he would have been for a professional. Big budget production. Yes. So much so that he had to get his picture with Maui after the show. And it's this 13 year old kid.

And his muscle costume. And then with the tattoos all over him in the wig. And he's just- Griffin's just smiling in front of him. It's so sweet. And he's like, shock and Griffin's beaming. Like he's just so stoked. Oh, and the other funny thing is that our son's friend

was too scared to go up to Maui because he like legitimately thought it was Maui, you know? He was like overwhelmed. He was starstruck. Like when you're two, you can't tell the difference between real Maui and a 13 year old in a tattoo costume. I was proud of Griffin though, to walk right up and just like take a picture.

He's brave. He is brave. We just went to Revel Surf Park in Arizona. It's the first surf wave place in Arizona ever in the history of ever. So basically you can surf in the desert. In the middle of the desert. Yes. I did a horrible job of explaining that. No, that made sense. Thank you. But Griffin jumped off the

high dive there. They have this section with a pool and you can jump from six feet, 12 feet, 18, and then I think 24. He did the 12 foot jump. He's two. Okay, he just turned three, but he was not afraid. I was so impressed with him doing that It was crazy. I was like does he realize what he's like is he so young that he doesn't realize this But I feel like he does he's just brave Yeah, there were teenage girls that were terrified of jumping off this thing And here's our little two-year-old just sending it off of this show. It's funny. Is that like yes he's like physically willing to jump off that but he

off of this show. But what's funny is that like, yes, he's like physically willing to jump off that, but he doesn't socially know like what's appropriate. So it's hard to be like down below, like wanting to be there when he lands, but also being like, oh wait, you have to wait your turn up there. Like you have to get behind them. And then also being able to teach him like timing of like when someone else's else jumps, like when it's safe for you then to jump, like he's still learning those things. So has to be highly highly highly monitored I mean for

several reasons yes we highly monitored but those things that was like an interesting thing I was like oh didn't think about that like he has no idea that he has to stand at the back of that line and wait till he's at the front and then when he's at the front he does have to go but he has to go at the perfect time like those are things that you kind of assume that kids know but they don't my favorite part was him waiting for me to count him down. So I would go up with him. That's what he's taught. He was trained. He was trained to wait for me to count him down because we were jumping

together. We don't want him also to just jump in the pool without us. And after I jumped with him about 20 times, I was like, I'm going to take a break buddy, but he wanted to keep going. So he kept going back up there and he would look for me out in this crowd of people for me to count him down. One, two, three. And then he would jump. And now he's three. Today, the day that we're recording this is our son's third birthday. He's right now getting donuts with his grandma and grandpa. So sweet. Yeah. They wanted to start that tradition. Literally this is the first time I'm doing it, but they're gonna take them out for donuts every birthday.

Can we just take a second? There are some of you that have been with us since before we had children. Yeah. And now we have a three-year-old. How crazy is that? Three-year-old. It's so wild how quickly the time passes by. I know every old person says that,

and it's so cliche, but it's so true. We have a three-year-old now. I know. He's the best. He's not a baby anymore. No, he's certainly not. He's asking us to go to the bathroom and not wear diapers so that he can use the potty on his own. He's a big kid.

Yeah. We don't have a little baby anymore. No. It's pretty surreal. It's awesome, he's such a good kid. We just threw Griffin's birthday party. It was epic, it's such a good kid. We just threw Griffin's birthday party. It was it was epic. It was soccer themed. We had a massive blow up waterslide that our friends let us borrow from Sam's club. There's actually a vlog out I

think now of us showing you guys what we did for the party. So go definitely go check it out. We had so many people over and that kid is a fish man. He would not get out of the he just kept swimming and swimming and swimming now we're even doing swim lessons with the boys which has been amazing just because like we we want our kids to be like really good swimmers especially in Arizona where everybody has a pool you know we we want them to be the best when it comes to water and what's crazy is I've been in the pool now since we since our pool got finished I've been in the pool with since our pool got finished. I've been in the pool with Griffin

pretty much every single day. And he has improved drastically so much that he will jump in the water. Like this is all supervised by the way. He knows he can't go in the pool without us. And we have all the safety stuff too. But I have now trained him to where he will jump in the water, swim back to the edge

and pull himself out of the water. That's so good. Isn't that crazy? That's so good. Isn't that crazy? That's so good. He's been doing that for weeks now. That's not like that happened today. That's been going on for a minute. So impressed with that kid.

I'm proud of him. The party was so much fun and it was soccer themed, but I have a friend who works literally at a soccer boarding school training thing. So I was like, you should just do some drills with them on the side yard. Oh, you, that was actually a plan that was gonna happen. It was a pseudo plan and then we were like, oh, it's gonna be 113 degrees.

It is blazing hot here. It's been, it's been extremely hot. I think we've set some records this summer, haven't we? I feel like every summer we've been in Arizona, they're like, it's the hottest summer yet. Yeah, well it just keeps getting hotter because of all the construction. It's like the bachelor,

like it's the most dramatic season yet. Yeah, no, it's- getting hotter because it's the most dramatic season yet. Yeah, no, it's seriously what that's seriously what happens here. Funny enough, I checked the weather today and I was shocked to see that it was under 100. It's only 97 out today, which is, which is 10 degrees below the daily average for people in other parts of the country. They probably just heard that it's 97 and they're like, holy crap. And that like, keep in mind that is, that's like, you can go outside and go on a walk here oh yeah yeah it's not it's not bad yeah and especially with the pool because of the evaporation when you get out of the pool it actually will kind of feel cold it's so dry here it just rapidly the water will rapidly evaporate off of your body and so having a pool has been clutch because even at Griffin's party when it was freaking 113

I didn't really notice because we were in the water kids were going down the water slide There was just water everywhere and it was it was a good time. It was a really good time It was also just like really low-key like it was fun that we had so many people over but also we like just got Chick-fil-a and like had Packets for the kids like really easy stuff. It was just fun. It's so fun having people over. I love, love hosting. It doesn't stress me out that much, honestly. Yeah. And our backyard is finally done.

After months and months of pool building and pergola construction and turf going in, it is finished and we actually got it finished right in time for the party because we were hoping the pergola wasn't going to take that long. I mean, there was a lot of delays with certain things, especially with having a TV installed on the pergola and then having a fan put in because we wanted to have like a shaded area in the backyard where people could just chill and hang out by the pool.

And they were able to get it all done before the party, which was awesome. Amazing. Amazing. Yeah. So, so nice. You did a great job designing that, babe. Thank you, babe. Yeah. Yeah, we love it. We've been living in the backyard. Yeah, essentially. Been back there literally every single day. About the backyard though, babe, I have a dilemma that I've been running into.

I feel so bad because the people that did our fence did such a good job. It looks amazing. But I did notice a slight little mishap where they put in a stone that was chipped. They took out one of the pieces of travertine in our backyard to put in the fence and when they did that and put it back in, they chipped it. So I had them come out and put in a new piece of travertine because we have extra by our garage. But then I also noticed, and I feel like I don't know what to do in this situation.

Our turf is burned right next to the fence where I think when the guy was like soldering things together, he must have set down one of the pieces of fencing and it burned a hole in our turf. Is it big? It is pretty noticeable. Like it's not horrible. You can easily see it. And it's not just one, there's multiples.

There's about three different parts where the turf is burned from where the guy... How did he do it more than once? I think he probably just didn't really think about it. Because think about it, if you put a hot piece of metal in grass... But you should see when you pick up that there was something... Yeah. So if you put a hot piece of metal in grass, it's fine. I mean, grass grows right back.

But with turf, you just can't do that. And so it's this big sheet of turf that now is damaged because of the person that put in the fence. And I met this guy. Like, I talked to him. I was out swimming with Griffin when he was working on the fence.

So he's a super nice guy and already came back once. Is he the owner, too? He's not the owner of the company. He's someone that works for the company. I just feel bad because I feel like I have a personal relationship with this guy now and I don't want to have him come back a second time. Which I don't think he could fix the turf. He damaged the turf.

Look, I don't know this for a fact. I guess I could go back and watch footage. We do have a security camera back there, so I could see if he set the metal pieces down on the turf, but like what else would it be? Like we're talking about a perfectly fence shaped hole. It would have to be really, really hot to melt that turf. Oh, yeah. And it's very clear when you look at the turf. It's like, oh, yeah, that was the fence. Yeah, there was like fire when he was like soldering it. Gosh dang it. I don't know what to do. I feel like I would just like move on and be like, ah never mind. Because we could, I mean I could just pay somebody to come out and patch it, but then what they have to do is they have to cut out the turf and then put a new piece in.

And then it's not going to match perfectly. Yeah, I think like it still could look decent. We will notice it, but I think it won't look as bad as like the burnt hole in the turf. Oh man. I don't know what to do there. I'll have to keep thinking about that one. I know. I don't want to get this guy in any trouble. In other news, I feel like all of our friends right now are pregnant. Like I feel like every other day I go on social media, I see like, oh, another one of our

friends from college is pregnant. And then we were just over at our friend's house, another friend's house for dinner last night. And they announced to us that they were pregnant. Then our neighbors are pregnant. And I just- We have literally six close friends that are pregnant. That is insane. Is that including both of our sister-in-laws?

That does include them because they're also my friends. Okay, yes. What's up with that? Is that just the season of life we're in as mid middle twenties people? It also shows the kind of people we surround ourselves with. We surround ourselves with families.

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for a girl where essentially you don't have intercourse around the ovulation day but the days leading up to the ovulation day yeah during your fertile window you you still you do intercourse those days and apparently that's because okay I'm trying not to say the word sex because apparently we talk about sex too much I see that sometimes people are like wow you guys talk about sex too much I'm sorry that sometimes people are like, wow, you guys talk about sex too much I'm sorry guys. We are married. You should miss a real life. We talk about it way more Yeah, be our friends real life and you'll just hear up. No, but I apparently this is a way that you can consider girls It's a method. There's like a name for it. Yeah, should I look this up to see what the actual method is?

I believe in it. I really do. I know it's not like scientifically proven, but I've known I have a couple personal case studies of people I know that have tried for a girl that have had multiple boys before and they wanted a girl and then it worked when they did that the next time they conceived. I'm looking this up right now. It says have sex 2.5 to 4 days before you ovulate. Timing sex is the key here so it would help if you keep an eye on the ovulation chart where you can predict what days of your cycle you are likely to ovulate and have lots of sex before you release an egg. Interesting. Interesting, interesting, interesting. It's worked for two families that I know that have had multiple boys before that.

And they wanted to have a girl. So they did that. Yes. Interesting. So that's the first thing that pulled up. I'm not gonna do further research into this because I'm not a doctor and if you're coming here for medical advice you came to the wrong podcast. But that is fascinating that that's worked for two of our friends. I know. Crazy. There's something to it. There is something to it because I think they say like this X chromosome or whatever lives longer. Yeah. In the female body, I don't know. When we end up having another baby, which I guess,

should we tell people we've, I think we're, I think we do want to have more kids. For sure. Yeah, because. I never questioned it. You never? It was you. It was you when we were in the thick of the two babies,

you're like, ah, they might be done. It's just, it's just not every one you have. No, I don't blame you. When you have little kids, it's a lot. You're like, this is never going to end. I don't blame you. I'm the crazy one. But I really do love our kids.

And so I think that's in the cards for us. But when we do end up having more kids, would you want to have a girl? Or would you want to have a boy? I've been thinking about that so much. Because don't really like I feel really like I embrace the idea of boy mom like I love having little boys I love raising little boys I love everything about it but then I'm thinking like long term down the line I feel like I would want to have a girl for like the future. That's smart. That's smart because my mom

has three boys and we forget to call home. Yeah I don't think every boy is like that. Poor Teresa Howard man. I mean I think about the fact like me and my mom go out to lunch. We go shopping. We go to the spa. We get our nails done together. Like we do those things together and I'm like my boys aren't gonna do that with me. It's like you almost have like an adult friend then. Yeah, and it's also like an insurance policy on having grandchildren too, cause I feel like if you have a girl, I don't know why, but I'm just thinking

that they're more likely to like have babies and stuff. You know what I'm saying? Well, they have to make a baby with a boy and that. True. I didn't think of that. I don't know if that's as foolproof as you think. I don't know, I feel like that's what I notice. Is it foolproof or foolproof? It's foolproof

Hey, actually some of my family members. I have my mom's cousins There's four girls and not a single one of them had kids Yeah I don't think that that's the reason why you could do it obviously the more kids you have the more chances you have of grandchildren Yeah, but you can't put that expectation on your kids. You know what I mean? Yeah, I would just want to have a girl down the line because I'm like, man, I would love to have like a buddy into adulthood.

Like right now, my boys are my buddies. But one day, traditionally speaking, who knows what their life is gonna look like? I mean, I'll support their trajectory wherever they wanna go. Boys are more likely to like, you know, what do they say, like leave and cleave on to your new family And so then I feel like and I feel like that's healthy and normal for them to kind of like separate themselves more than a girl

That makes sense. Yeah, and so I'm like man. I really would love to be like obviously I want to be close But I can't be like as close with our boys Maybe well also I don't love the idea of like mama's boys as adults. Like mama's boys when they're little it's cute, but mama's boys when they're like adults I'm like that's not cute, you know? Yeah, not the most. I still want them to treat me tenderly.

Do you remember that there was a TV show that reached out to me wanting me to be on a mama's boy TV show? Did that ever become a TV show? I don't know, this was like maybe two or three years ago. Yes. And you're like, I'm not a mom. We got this email about wanting to cast me for this Momma's Boy TV show. They had no idea if you were Momma's Boy or not. Yeah, which that was the first red flag.

I'm like, OK, how legit are these TV shows? These reality TV shows, if they're willing just to reach out to me because they probably saw like a TikTok of me or like a YouTube video of me. And they thought, oh, this person, you know're willing just to reach out to me, because they probably saw like a TikTok of me or like a YouTube video of me and they thought, oh, this person, you know, some people know who this guy is. So maybe we'd want them on the TV show. But having no clue about my relationship with my mom, because I like I love my mom and my mom's in some of our videos.

There is a TV show about it. It's called I Love a Mama's Boy. Really? It was on TLC in 2024, which for sure tracks for when they were emailing us about, because it would have been filming a year or two beforehand. Matt, you could have been on the TLC series, I Love a Mama's Boy,

except they would have had to really spin that narrative. Oh yeah, they would have had a really, like you love your mom, but you are not a mama's boy by any definition. Not a mama's boy. They made four seasons of it. Four seasons? All in 2024?

Season one was back in 2020. They did one every year. I'm so glad you didn't do that. I mean, you didn't even think about it. Yeah. We were just kinda like, what? See, reality TV could be a lot of fun, but it is dangerous territory.

I hate to say it. Like all my friends are watching Love Island. I shouldn't even say this. I don't watch it. You don't watch, yeah, you don't watch Love Island. I don't watch Love Island. I've never watched a single episode of Love Island. I don't watch any reality TV except for Love on the Spectrum. That is our favorite, yes.

That's my only reality TV I like. And now we've gotten to meet two of the people from the show, Abby and Tanner. I know, it's literally a dream come true. I know, that's the reality TV that we need. And now we've gotten to meet two of the people from the show Abby and Tanner It's literally a dream come true. I know that that's the reality TV that we need that's so wholesome I don't like I hate drama And so I'm like I can't sit here and watch people fight or argue or like silly people Misunderstand things and get spun. I just hate that so much and also but even even with Love on the Spectrum,

they still need a little bit of drama. I'll admit, I did not finish season three. Sorry, Abby. You gotta finish it with me. I'll rewatch it. Okay, let's watch it together. The thing is with that show, it's so wholesome, but even in that show, they still need to have some drama.

They still need to have a little bit of something interesting. I guess I shouldn't say drama. I don't like cattiness. Okay, but like I felt bad for that girl. She was trying to push things along. I forget her name, but she was the girl who's really into animation and her boyfriend wanted to wait till marriage

and she didn't. And so from the episode that I saw, she was really pushing like, hey, we've been together for a year. Can we do the deed? And he didn't want to. And then people on the internet were, were getting angry with her and, and she was getting some haters. Oh my gosh. Which made me so upset for her because that is what happened. And I'm sure that like, you just have to understand like you're only seeing a glit, a very little glimpse of these people's lives and people

are putting her into a box based off of what they saw on the show. And she's so much more than that. You know, so I just have empathy for the people that get labeled as, you know, the villains like and she's not even that. But just in general, I have empathy for those people. I mean, I don't want to gossip about other people ever at all, because I don't think that's right. But just to speak on that a little bit,

the thing that I love so much about Love on the Spectrum and all of the people that are a part of that show is the honesty. And I think she did nothing wrong. She was honest. She was like, hey, in a relationship, I want this. There's nothing wrong with having expectations for a relationship.

Other people can disagree and say, that's an unrealistic thing that you're asking for. That's your opinion. I'm sure there's things that you expect out of your relationship that other people would say, like that's ridiculous. But she's allowed to say that she expects that. And he's also allowed to be honest with her and say,

like, I can't give you that. That doesn't align with my internal set of values. And so then that's a good reason to break up. I think that all happened very amicably and appropriately. Like of course it's hard, a breakup's gonna be hard, but like I love how everyone on that show is so direct and honest. And also just like you can tell that they just,

there's no cattiness. That's what I don't like about other reality TV shows sometimes. Like I'm like I can't watch this because it just feels, I don't know how to describe it, it doesn't make me feel good. It feels like gossipy and. Yeah, there's so much drama yeah there's so much drama there's so much gossip and I love drama because I mean we love we watch Game of Thrones oh yeah we love we love

interesting so I just don't like when other people's like personal lives become I don't know especially when it could really hurt their mental health it's like harmful it could hurt them, yeah, it could just harm them in so many ways. And I think they've probably started providing counseling for people on reality TV shows. I'm sure there's a lot of things that go on behind the scenes that we're not aware of,

but something that I really do appreciate about Love on the Spectrum, and I want like huge shout out to Netflix for this, they really paint all the people on that show for the most part in like a very positive, wholesome light. And even just, you know, sitting down and getting to meet some of the people

that have been on the show, you realize, oh, like we're only seeing a glimpse of who they are in this setting and knowing that Netflix is not trying to take something that they said out of context and spin it like they do with probably shows like Love Island and stuff like that. I mean, you just really don't know the whole picture of things, but I love how they are not doing anything shady with these people on the show. It seems like a very honest portrayal of their joy and their just happy-go-lucky attitude. Yeah, seriously.

Such a good show. Can't recommend it enough. Especially the recent season. It was so successful. Yeah. And sweet. I thought it was funny how much Tanner wanted to talk to me, talk with me about gorillas. So sweet.

I don't think you guys, if you've seen the show love on the spectrum Tanner from what I understand didn't really go into his love for gorillas that much on the show But it seemed like every other sentence. He wanted to talk to me about his favorite gorilla movie or talk about certain characteristics that gorillas have and That was that was sweet. Yeah, that was that was a really great day. Gosh are you hot in here right now? I'm so... Turn off the air conditioner for the audio. I'm gonna make the audio better for you guys. It's only 97 out so I guess we don't need the air conditioner. We gotta I gotta get with it. Matt I have to ask you something I've

been literally sitting and thinking about for a couple weeks now. Okay. Is it wrong to be attracted to the minor version of your spouse? That is, why are you asking me that question? That's like, I feel like that could be perceived in such a creepy way. Okay, I don't know, like, okay. Is it different though? Like when you look at 17 year old Matt Howard and you're attracted to that guy, you see me in a picture. Well, we only started dating when I was 18 but I was like what if you thought I was attractive

now when I was 17 like you saw a picture of me now like is that wrong is it weird? I think it's totally different when you're talking about somebody that has seen their spouse how do I say this? Like you were dating me when I was that age. Yeah, I was- So I feel like that's more appropriate than, like I feel like there's nothing wrong with that. But the area that gets a little gray is like say you met in your 20s or 30s, but then you like went back and saw pictures of them when they were like 16. When you're 16, you look a lot like you're going to look at 20.

I guess that's true. You look a lot like you're going to look at even 30, you know? And so if you're looking at pictures of your spouse when they were 16, 17 years old and you find them attractive, I think that's probably a very normal thing because it's your spouse. Yeah, that's like it's the person that you've committed your entire life to. I just got to thinking about it, though, because I was like you like we were like looking at old pictures and there's a

picture of me and you at the beach when I was literally 17 And I was like wait is this weird for Matt to like look at seven. I don't know I think you look pretty I think you look pretty and I thought you looked pretty then too Yeah, the first time we went on a date was my 18th birthday We were flirting and chatting when we were when we were both 17 the good old days the good old day I don't think it's weird But I just thought that was funny because we have that you know story of being together since we were both 17. The good old days. The good old days. I don't think it's weird, but I just thought that was funny because we have that story of being together

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That's how I feel about you. I kind of view it as if you were my daughter in a way. Cause in that age- You're saying that makes me want for us to have a girl. Really? Yes. And why do I just not see it happening? Have you ever needed to send your friend's money for something and you don't want to use real cash?

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and this little girl that you want to have? I feel like ideally I would have three boys and then a little girl. Oh my gosh, we're going up to four kids. Three boys close together and then a little bigger gap. Like three years or four years. And then a little girl. So they can like protect her. That's so funny. Why does, see why does

four kids freak me out? Yeah I mean it's cuz you only have two. No one wants- I'm like we're dub- we're doubling. Yeah. That you know. Yeah we don't have to think about that right now because we're only 26 and 27. That's true. And we already have two kids. You know what gave me a little bit of panic today. It was when I saw a comment from a lady that was like, I love watching your stuff because like my husband and I got married when we were your same age. And now we're grandparents and we have we have six kids. And I'm like, you got like six kids, just like that.

That kind of freaked me out, because that's just that's a lot. That's a lot. It's a lot of children, you know? Yeah, well, you know, you don't go from zero to six, right? You get primed each time. You can, there are people, I, I had friends growing up that were quadruplets. That's crazy. They do fertility treatments?

They did, they did. That's typically when that happens. That's crazy. Yeah, I don't, things that actually can happen naturally, unless you were to ovulate twice and they both split Okay, seriously. I'm about to take my shirt off Actually, I don't know that seems a little weird. I don't think I can do it. I'm sweating though I'm literally I can see the sweat marks going through my t-shirt right now

No, I think having a little girl would be so sweet just because I want to see you also have a little girl Yeah, like I think he would really like get you and make you more emotional. Yeah You like it with emotional. I've never seen you be emotional Really? I thought there's been some time. They've been emotion. I've definitely been I don't I believe that you're feeling it But I just can't say that you're an emotional guy even a little bit like you're probably the least emotional person I know. Oh, wow Your dad's no, I see my dad cry though. Really? Yeah. I feel like you've seen me cry more than your dad. No. Really? I don't think so. This is what I was thinking about too. I literally told you this last night. We've

been married almost six years and two days it will be our six-year anniversary. It's our golden anniversary. Three years. Golden anniversary! I don't know if that, wait on July 6th. Is that a thing? That's three days from now. I don't think that's a thing. Yeah, so our sixth anniversary is this year. It's on July 6th.

But I thought about this, Matt. That's exciting. I didn't know that. Since we got married so young, we have six years under our belt, but we could have 60 more to go. I love that. I would love to be. I think my great grandparents were married 66 years. Hopefully we can beat them.

66 years. Can we be married longer than that? Wow, that's an insane amount of time to be married. Yeah. That's so cool though. Well they got married I think when they were like 19 and 20. That is basically us. They were young.

20 and 21. But like, I don't know, I'm like, if we're gonna be together that long, like let's just make it fun. And I will say, you have been obsessed with me recently. I'm with you. Well, you're kind of like always been very affectionate and like Very very sweet, but I sometimes take it for granted because I get so used to like how affectionate you are with me How like yeah touchy you are how like complimentary you are how just like you want to be around me and fun What's the weird thing that I do that tells you that i'm obsessed with you

Well, I take it for granted But you like come over me and like rub my shoulders in front of other people You kiss me from people and actually my friends pointed this out to me because gryphon's birthday party last weekend When I saw my friends this week, they were like gosh like I can't even imagine my husband treating me the way that Matt treats you really they're like it would be be so weird because Matt is just so obsessed with you and my husband's just not like that. And I was like, wait, that's really sweet that they noticed that and then also

that they said something, but then it also just was a good reminder to me, I have it so good, I'm so spoiled with you. But they're like, he just kept coming over to you saying, I just wanna spend time with you. I'm like, the way that I didn't even think anything of that because you're just always so like you're a golden retriever. You have puppy, you're like puppy dog energy around me. You're so sweet. I was just thanking you today for literally coordinating all of our social events and plans. I am the social committee.

I would not have friends and I would not be hanging out with people if it wasn't for you. Like you're like, okay, the 4th of July, we're doing this with these people. And then this night is when we're hanging with this couple friend of ours. Like you coordinate all that. I keep our schedule packed. I don't have to worry about it. Thank you so much for making sure that I have friends. Do I plan too much stuff?

No, I love it. The only thing that I have on my calendar is Hot Dad Saturday. Every Saturday, me and the dads and the kids go to the park or the pool or whatever. But you keep my social battery alive and I'm so thankful for that. But the truth is, babe, I just wanna spend time with you. Like I just wanna be around you. I love you.

Yeah. I have it so good, literally. They're like, he was like rubbing your shoulders and like giving you kisses and saying, I just wanna hang out with you and like this is such a good party. And I was like, I have it so good. Like that was so nice of them to point that out but then also I'm like thank you for like

always keeping our marriage fun and like making me feel wanted. Pool parties are the best too because I just got to check you out in a swimsuit the entire birthday party. Okay wow. That was fun. That's crazy. Shout out to my wife. At the three-year-old birthday party. At the three-year-old birthday party. Yeah, you better believe it. Also guess what I'm making for dinner tonight? What are you making for dinner? Chicken Madeira. I found a copycat recipe.

No way! Shut up. I know, our favorite restaurant. Cheesecake Factory is easily one of our favorite places for date night. You know what's a little bit crazy now though, is that Cheesecake Factory's becoming mainstream again. Really?

I feel like people are talking about Cheesecake Factory now and I'm like, you know what? That has been our date spot for years. Yep. I love the chicken lettuce wraps or the Thai lettuce wraps. That's what it's called. It's actually Thai chicken wraps or something like that. Or no, Thai lettuce wraps. Yeah, that's right.

I love their bread. I love the chicken Madera. They used to have hibachi steak, which is the best thing on the menu, but RIP, they no longer have it. For like two years it's been gone. Yes. So sad. We also like the bang bang chicken and shrimp. Yep.

We actually- The cookie dough cheesecake. Fun fact, we started going to Cheesecake Factory a lot because it was like the spot to go to when we lived on the island of Oahu in Hawaii and we were like joking with each other, why are all the people on the North Shore driving down to go to Honolulu? Over an hour to go to Cheesecake Factory It's so stupid and then we started doing it and got hooked They're onto something here

So good Is it the sodium levels, the sugar, the calorie content? I don't know how the calories are so high on the foods there I don't believe that personally. There's some things on the menu like there's these cinnamon roll pancakes that are like 2300 calories It's insane You think it's real? Even the chicken Madeira is like over a thousand calories for your freaking dinner But it's worth it. I just have to forget that the calories exist. I mean even the salads There's some salads. I want to say that are like 2,000 calories for a freaking salad. I know

Can you take those off there? I don't get it. They have a little skinny licious menu This is a petition for all restaurants to take the calories off. No, that's really important for people's health We don't want to know the calories off. No, that's really important for people. We don't want to know the calories. No, they need to know. We just want to be able to eat freely and whatever we want and we can figure it out later. You know, maybe, maybe we can have a dietician or a gym coach helping us keep our health on track. But like, I don't want to know if what I'm eating is 3000 calories. I don't

want to know that the Cheesecake Factory. No, you need to know. You need to make an informed decision. Really? Yeah, it's really important that they have those on the menu. I don't want to know that the Cheesecake Factory... No, no, you need to know. You need to make an informed decision. Really? Yeah, it's really important that they have those on the menu. I don't know, babe. So then you can say like, Okay, yeah, I'm going to make this decision. You have to know what you're agreeing to. Did I tell you that like this year was the first year that I started paying attention to calories? I don't pay attention to calories. I know I'm joking, like teasing about that.

But like this year I was like, okay, maybe like with like being a father and stuff like that. Because I started noticing a little bit more of the Of the belly of the belly had a belly. I would be I would be obsessed with it. Honestly. Thank you It's more actually for me. Yeah more comfortable or you would like rest your head on my belly. Yes, that'd be so nice You're serious. I'm dead serious. You would not care if I had a belly What about skinny fat? What if I like had skinny arms? I'm at I'll be honest with you. I I don't? What if I like had skinny arms and it made a belly? I'm Matt, I'll be honest with you. I can't imagine a person you that I'm not attracted to.

That is as nice as you can get. I really mean that. I'm not trying to be cheesy. I really do mean that. You're sweet. Because I'm just attracted to you. Thanks. As a person. I want you to take care of yourself. Thanks. Because I want you to be with me for 60 more years. 60 more years, baby. Give me a high five. So I have a copycat recipe. We'll see how that goes tonight. I'm excited. I know. I didn't know that Madeira was a type of wine.

But speaking- Did you know that? No, I had no idea that Madeira was that point. Speaking of our anniversary though, you guys, like Abby said, six years being married, I wanna take us back in time to everything that we've done for our anniversary. I can actually name off everything we've done

for anniversary for all. So we kind of go all out for anniversary. I will say, do you, do you know what the first one was? What do we do? We stayed at the hotel that we stayed at the night of our wedding. Oh my gosh. You're right. We did. And we watched our wedding video. Yep. It was really fun. We went to the, we went to the restaurant, we had a rehearsal dinner at. Yep. That was a really memorable night. That was awesome. The food was amazing. It was still COVID times. That dad put my wedding dress back on for you too.

You did? Wait, you should put on your wedding dress again sometime. I wanna see it. Where is that thing? I don't know where that's at actually. Maybe it's gone. Maybe your mom got rid of it or something. She would not have done that.

You don't think so? I bet it's somewhere. I bet you Lori would get rid of your wedding dress. I don't think she would. You think she would? She's very good at being clutter free. So I think she'd be like, eh your I don't think she would you think she's good at she she's very good at like Being clutter free. So I think she'd like we don't need that anymore. I get that from her I'm not attached to the dress. I'm like, I don't know where it's at. I love that about you really? Yeah, cuz my mom's a hoarder

She's gonna hear this too. She's not She just loves she's sentimental about certain things Yeah, she's all about certain things. Yes My kindergarten, I'm gonna defend you right now put it on the books. I'm defending you. She's not I have a great mom I love you mom. My mom threw away my art probably Here's the thing. What if what if like we just take pictures of the art and throw it away when our kids make art? So we can always keep some of it. Okay, we keep some yeah keep some of the art for sure like the thing that I remember my mom really kept is that when I was little, I wrote like a all like all about my brother.

Yeah. And it was like he is the best because he plays with me. I love Blake and I like wrote this like letter. She kept that and I feel like that would be me. Like if Griffin and Augie wrote like stuff about each other or drew pictures of each other playing together, I got to keep that forever. That's sweet. Okay, so you got you got the first question right about the first anniversary.

Here's what I remember distinctly though about the first anniversary that you didn't mention. This was right after we started getting like TikTok fame or whatever you call it. Yes. So why did our cable? So yeah, we're eating dinner, celebrating our first, no wait, this was like our second dinner I guess that we ate because we ate at the venue that we had our hotel. On our actual anniversary, we ate at the place we had our rehearsal dinner at. Yes. And this couple got us wine and we thought that it was from your grandparents.

We assumed that someone in your family, probably your grandma and grandpa. Yes, called the restaurant and got us this wine. And so we were about to like text your grandparents, thank you, when this couple walks over and they said, hey, we watch you guys on TikTok. We happen to be visiting from like Boston, Massachusetts. Yeah, we thought like, you surely are local. They're from the East coast.

Yeah, they were not local. So nice. And they recognized us and got us wine. That was the craziest thing. I think that was like one you surely are local. They're from the East coast. Yeah, they were not local. So nice. And they recognized us and got us wine. That was the craziest thing. I think that was like one of the first times. That was the nicest thing ever. I think that was the first time somebody had ever come up to us in public.

And they got us like champagne. It was nice, yeah. It was so nice. So nice. So that was like, oh wow, okay. Our life is different now because these random people just came up to us at dinner and it was so nice.

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The hotel that we stayed at for our second anniversary, it's all on YouTube. We did a vlog of that trip and it's gone. Like that whole town essentially was decimated. Gosh, that's awful. Yeah. The funny thing about that trip though is we slept in separate beds. Because you booked a room with two twin Because the pioneer inn that we stayed at was this old

Classic hotel it's been around for like a hundred years Yeah, every every room there essentially had two twin beds for whatever reason. I don't know why Wait, every room did I'm pretty sure and we rented a convertible. We had this like this And we did the road to Hana and just got to look out at all these waterfalls. It was beautiful. So beautiful. It kind of spooked me though,

cause apparently rocks will fall down sometimes from waterfalls, especially when there's excessive rainfall. And so I did dip my head under the waterfall, but I was like scared about like a big boulder coming down and like knocking me out. Say that again. Like waterfalls don't just have water fall down like the water will take rocks and sometimes boulders We would know a fact like that and I like I'm like a safety guy, you know, I'm mr Safety over here

So I like learned that when I was looking up safety stuff about actually people asked me that yesterday when you did a gainer off That like 30 foot jump. They're like, did this make you nervous? I was like, no, because Matt's actually really safe. Like he wouldn't do this unless it was like, he was gonna be okay. Did you notice that when I did the gainer, I think it was like a 24 foot jump,

but did you notice that I worked my way up? So I started on the shortest jump and then I practiced on the second and the third. And then at the very last second, I was like, you know what, I gotta send it on the big one. You're brave. But I like to send it safely. Cause I think if you can have fun,

if you can like take calculated risks, that way you're less likely to hurt yourself or screw up your life for an extended period of time. I think that's the way to go. Okay. Good. So Hawaii, third was when we were were it was our baby moon slash anniversary trip You're pregnant with Griffin pregnant with Griffin

Yep And that was the first time that we went to Cabo because we had just moved to Arizona And that's when we got addicted to going on a weekend getaway to Mexico because we live in Arizona Which is really close to some parts of Mexico. Yeah, there's this resort called the Garza Blanca. It sounds fancy because it is, okay? It is the nicest resort that we have quite honestly ever stayed at. Oh, by far.

We just keep going back. I remember when we showed up, you booked it, because I was with your child, so you booked the baby moon. Take care of you, baby. It's very sweet. And they were like, and here's your butler. And I was like, what do we do with him? We still, we've gone back every anniversary since this one.

So three times about to have our fourth. We still don't know what to do with a freaking butler. Could you guys let us know what to do? Does anybody have any experience with a butler? I don't want to make that guy do anything, that poor guy. I know. Just sit down and relax. Like we already have, like with the all-inclusive package You can have everything you want to eat you go to

The dining place and they bring it all to you I'm like, I don't know what to tell this butler to do no, I might please so if you have any experience with a butler Please let us know what do they do what we should do They brought your bags to your room But then they're like and whatever you need held to and I was like dude even people being it bringing backs to our room Can I just say that they were like, and whatever you need, they'll do, and I was like. Dude, even people bringing bags to our room, can I just say this? Yeah, we're like, we'll just carry it, it's fine.

No, I don't like it. Like, I feel bad, you know? Oh, yeah. Like, I'm like, you don't have to carry my bag for me. I can take my bag, especially when we do these short trips, because we're only gonna be gone for our anniversary this year. The most I can be gone without the kids is three nights.

Yeah, so it's a three night trip. Like, we're only gonna bring like maybe a backpack and a carry on each. Like that's so easy to carry to our room. But no, they're probably not gonna let us. I mean like, oh, we insist. We need to take your bags for you. I know, like you walk in, you guys,

they give you a warm towel. I also don't know what to do with the warm towel if I'm totally honest with you. What do you do with that? I think it's for your face. Do you put that on your face? Just like, is it exfoliation? I dare you to put that on your face when we get there. I don't think it's for your face. Do you put that on your face? Is it exfoliation? I dare you to put that on your face when we get there. I don't think that's right. That doesn't feel right. Maybe around

your neck and a glass of Prosecco. It's so good, but you can't go more than three nights or else you will literally become those people on Wall-E. I think I'm going to drink the Prosecco. I went a solid, what did I do? Seven or eight months without drinking a sip of alcohol? And then every time you talk about this, it seems like you're an alcoholic. I'm not an alcoholic. No, but like then then I'd had our friend's birthday party. I had an espresso martini on accident. I thought it was a mocktail. And then I just said, f it. I'm going to, I'm going to drink alcohol on occasion again. So yeah. Yeah. You can't go there too long or else you'll become too spoiled, your brain will rot.

But gosh, it's nice for three nights, holy cow. Yeah. I love being mom and dad together, but it's really nice to have him manage to be a husband and wife. Yeah, that's my favorite thing too is going on these mini trips with Abby because you- Sometimes it's hard to turn the parent brain off.

Yeah, and when you only go for a short amount of time you don't feel bad about being away from the kids as much. I certainly do struggle with guilt. Because it's just it's so short you're like you're so excited I think we push it a little bit when we went to London this year. That pushed it too much. That was was that almost a week was that five days? It was five days. Yeah so five days we by the end we're like okay we got to get back to our children. I was panicked I was actually sobbing in the airport. But can we can we say? And people said oh hi Abby I'm like sobbing in the airport. That oh yeah because we almost missed our flight. Yeah that was bad times let's not bring that up. Bad time that was rough but we made it back. Yeah you want to see the worst side of me? Tell me I can't go back to my kids when I'm planning on being back to them. Yeah. I

was literally, yeah. You were crying to the lady at the counter. Yeah it was a really bad display of my, of myself. Did someone have a picture with you then with like just your mascara running down your face? Yeah they asked for a picture. I've taken pictures of people when I'm crying. That's so funny. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. That happened.

That happened. Yeah, that happened another time at the airport. Remember, we just said goodbye to Griffin, and I was crying at the airport, and someone asked to take a picture, and I said, yeah. I didn't know that happened. When was that? That was in St. Louis.

Oh, OK. Yep. I'm kind of freaking out right now, because my heart is beating. It's because you had a cotton candy, a lani, okay. Yep. I'm like kinda freaking out right now cause like my heart is like beating. It's cause you had a cotton candy, a lani right before this. I did, I had 200 milligrams of caffeine. That's become, I need to stop drinking energy drinks, dude.

Maybe just drink half. Yeah, but like I drink half, I do this every single time. I'll drink half one of those energy drinks. You can just- Thinking that I'm not gonna finish it and then I still go back and finish it. I give myself like 30 minutes and like, ah, screw it.

They taste so good. Like I don't even want the caffeine. I just love the way it tastes. See, yeah, okay, everyone loves the cotton candy one, but for me, I don't like it. It's just too sweet? I don't like the flavor of cotton candy. I like actual cotton candy,

but I don't like cotton candy flavored things. I love, see, I'm the opposite. I'm not that big of a cotton candy guy, unless it's a flavored- What flavored cotton candy things do you like? Cotton candy ice cream, cotton candy beverages. You know what I loved as a kid. See for me cotton candy flavoring is in the same category as bubblegum flavoring. See I like that too. I would have bubblegum ice cream. Dude, I had bubblegum ice cream as a kid. I would always try to- Mornin' my ice cream! I had bubblegum ice cream as a kid. I would always try to-

Moan me my ice cream. I would always try to mooch off of my friends that had country club memberships. Okay. And I would be like, I knew they were going to the pool that day. Specifically July 3rd is a day I had to find someone that was a member of the country club

because that's when they did their big 4th of July. I think it was on the 3rd of July. Okay. And I would be like, hey, what are you doing today? And like really just try to weasel my way into the pool with them. I love that. And then I thought it was amazing because I was like, they just say this number and all of a sudden,

all food, all drinks, all ice cream is free. As an adult, I realized they were charging an account. You were charging your friend's account. They were doing it. Their parents just let them do it. But they'd be like two, four, four, one, three bubblegum ice creams. And then like this like 19 year old girl would have to go

bring us ice cream in the pool. Like think about how good that life was for me. But I only got that when I would finally beg someone to bring you with them to the country club. Yeah, we were never members. I don't even, did you have country clubs where you were? I'm sure we did. We were not a country club family. No, but I'm like, well, we were never members. I don't even did you have country clubs where you were? I'm sure we did we were not a country club family. No, but i'm like well, we certainly weren't we were

My family was the no cable family because we couldn't afford it. Yeah, that that is pretty rough My my childhood was I watched a lot of tv See, I feel like for a lot of people tv is is like an essential, like especially back in the day before the streaming services. They listed it as a necessity. People would be shocked and I'd say like, we just literally have rabbit ears. They're like, what the frick? Yeah, you were like one of the few. My childhood was pretty rough.

You're probably better off for it. I had to mow lawns in high school to raise money for college. I sold Perler beads on the corner. People just bought them out of pity. I did I did Sally Foster magazines. Did you have Sally Foster when you were a kid? No idea what that is. My parents didn't let me do those. You didn't do school fundraisers? No my parents didn't let me do that. I would go to. They let me do the candy bars. I would literally. But they didn't like the ones where you had to go back and bring it to them because we

would we would be left with people's orders. They would like order three things at cookie dough and then. Oh see my And then we couldn't store it. And then they would, if they didn't pay for it, like you had to pay for it. My mom was all about that. She loved that I would win these prizes. It was like, I got some big prizes for selling stuff for our school.

I raised a lot of money for my private Lutheran school back in the day. That is incredible. I would go to other neighborhoods. I would hit up every single house in my neighborhood and then go to all the neighborhoods. Other Lutheran schools are now like what they call it when they're like trying to like with sports. I want to say scoping you. Yeah, yeah. They probably were trying to get like recruit me. They're recruiting you. Other schools recruiting me. Gosh, it's gonna bother me when I can't think

of that word. When you're recruited? Like private schools are recruited? Well yes, that's correct as well, but the word that I'm looking for. Like, technically it's not allowed, but there's private schools, at least in St. Louis, where I grew up. Dude, St. Louis is the craziest with private schools. They would recruit kids from the inner city, give them a full ride to like a very expensive private high school, just so that they would play on the football team if they were a good football player. That's pathetic. I mean, it's good for that kid. Honestly, good for the kid, but it's highly frowned upon from what I understand.

Why? Because then you're stacking your team. You make your team way better than the other teams. It's kind of like making it unfair for other private schools that aren't doing that because then they're going to lose if you have all the crazy athletes on your team that are just so much more. That's a whole world I've never even been. I never even thought about.

Well, you're not competitive. You don't really care about that stuff. That's the other thing. I'm like, why do you want to win that bad? But now as an adult, though, I felt bad the other day. I drove by a kid telling lemonade and I didn't stop. I dude, I tried to tell you the other day. I was like, we need to go buy Lemonade from them

and then we just never. In my head, I'm like, I don't have cash, but these kids are getting creative. Dude, we were buying from that hot chocolate stand at Christmas, they're like, we take Zelle, Venmo, Cash App. We even take credit cards. Credit cards, they had a credit card reader. They have the little square reader on a phone

and they'll take your credit card. They had it plugged into their phone, yeah. Gosh, the entrepreneurship today. Hey, I'll support it. I'd love to support our kids through eliminate stands. What little business is what our kids have, it's so cute. Well, since they're homeschooling, that should be a unit. It'll be like starting a business.

It's so fun for them when they're older. I already got their first little kit for homeschooling. I got a learning, I think it's called Learning with Kelsey. It's like an at home box you can get and they have activities already ready to go for you. Because my thing with homeschooling, it's like I want to do it but I'm also, I don't have the bandwidth to prepare activities

every single day, Monday through Friday for it. So it's nice that obviously there's services that do it for you. I'm really excited to try out Learning with Kelsey. I'll let you know how it goes for us. We're not gonna start till August, but I'm like so excited Griffin talks about going to school He has a little backpack that kid with his backpack is This thing dude, we emptied out Griffin's backpack yesterday cuz it's getting so heavy He puts everything in anything he sees in his back. He's like I want that in my backpack

He puts August binkies in his backpack He puts his own binkies in his backpack, even though he's not supposed to have them during the day. He'll put clothes, he'll put, he has underwear. Dirty socks in there. A bunch of toys. Books, he loves books. Books are in there, snacks. Yeah.

It's really funny. How lucky are our kids to have you as a mom? Because you were literally, you would get your college degree in education so with this homeschool stuff that's right up your alley like you know what to do i'm so excited it's not for everyone but i'm really excited that we get the opportunity at least to see if it works for our family so grateful like literally just so grateful what uh subject should i teach the kids should it be the math teacher i think you got you gotta do math and that certainly do

science because i don't understand science i like math and depth. Certainly do science, because I don't understand science. I like math and science. I would do that. Okay. You'd be way better with language arts. I messed that crap up. You're way better. You read so many more books than me.

So it wouldn't make sense when you learn the drugs. I had a bad reading last month. I would love to teach history. Actually, if I had to be a school teacher, I would be a history teacher. You'd be a really good teacher. I love history. Like in a middle school. You think so? I think you'd be a great middle school teacher. Yeah. Actually, if I had to be a school teacher, I would be a history teacher. You'd be a really good teacher. I love history. Like in a middle school. You think so? I think

you'd be a great middle school teacher. Thanks. Actually, you'd be really good. What? We need more male teachers. Is that because I'm I act like a middle schooler? Is that why you're telling me that? Well, because you're afraid of high schoolers. Oh, gotcha. I feel like you could relate really well to a middle school boy no offense. I feel like now I feel like now I've gotten old enough that I'm I'm slowly aging out of that. I'm not afraid of them anymore. I don't believe you actually, but that's fine.

No. They are scary. I don't blame you. I'm terrified of them. I'm actually really even more scared of middle schoolers because they don't know anything about boundaries. Wait, seriously? Middle schools don't worry me.

They don't worry me at all. OK. Yeah. Middle schoolers scare me because they have absolutely no awareness of boundaries. I feel like high schoolers have started to find the boundaries, but middle schoolers are testing them. So they're going to the extremes.

They're crossing it. And then they come back. You know, it'd be really fun as being a kindergarten teacher because the kids would just laugh at you like in a fun way. It's really hard to be a kindergarten teacher because they've never been in a classroom before. So that's why I was going to do first grade because I love the little kids. But they also like you don't have to teach them how to stand in a line how to like be in a school building I think I think that I would be able to make them laugh like I love how our kids think

I'm hilarious I'm not even funny but they think I'm funny so that's why they're easy if you just say something in a funny voice they love it or just repeated a million times like in the car we're going maybe and they were like cracking up yeah you make a funny face of they love it, or just repeat it a million times, like in the car, we were going, maybe, and they were like cracking up. Yeah, you make a funny face of them and they'll die laughing every single time. Yeah, it's so funny. Okay, I have a question for you.

What? How do you feel about me getting hair transplant surgery? I forgot about that. Is that weird to you? I'm happy for you. I feel like it's gonna be something that will make you feel more confident. You seem to want to do it.

I would never encourage this if this wasn't something you wanted to do. But it honestly just feels like everything aligned perfectly. Yeah. Like how do you feel about it? I'm excited. Transparently, for those of you that do not know.

No pun intended. I, intended. I Transplant yeah, you're right. That is kind of like a transparently Transparently. Yeah. Um, okay. So a couple months ago a company reached out to me about Doing a hair transplant surgery and this is something that I've been thinking about now for a couple of years But never like seriously consider that I'll do it down the line. Yeah, because when I shaved my head a year ago, I realized how thin and fine my hair really was.

Like I've always had very fine hairs. I've always known that, but it wasn't until last year when I did shave my head, you could really see my scalp. Like I did a level three clipper on my head and you could see right down to my scalp, even though you shouldn't really be able to see someone's scalp unless they do like a one, you know, like an actual buzz cut, right? So that was very eye-opening

because the hair on the side of my head and the hair on top of my head. Gosh, what if you did a one all over? It would have, you would have, I just would have looked completely bald. Really? Oh yeah, 100%. Other thing that stuck out to me when I did the shaving of my head last year was how much my hair had receded since high school. And that wasn't as big of a shocker because when we had taken some photos at the beach back in 2020, I remember

getting very insecure when I saw how my hair looked when it got wet because in the beach photos, you could see straight down my scalp when I had wet hair and in quite a few of the photos, I was like, oh my gosh, I look like I'm going bald. The other day when I was getting out of the pool, I might have to put the video up on the screen because I took a video of what my hair looked like and I literally have what is a bald spot forming on the top of my head where you can see how my wet hair, it's just very thin, it's very fine and you can see the bald spot forming. So, needless to say, am I still in my 20s? Yes, I am. Like I'm not some 50 year old guy who has a massive bald spot on his head,

but it's gonna improve. Maybe you just need to use it before you lose it. Yeah, it's gonna improve the hairs that I have quite a bit. It's gonna, I think, make me feel more confident. So I'm stoked. Well, I'm glad you're doing something for you. I got my teeth done and I feel really confident with them. Thank you.

Yeah, I mean- But what's crazy is that you're going all the way to Turkey to do it. I am. So it's a, I don't even know how long that flight's gonna be. Long. Is it like- 18 hours.

18 hours? I'm gonna look it up. You keep talking while I do. That's how long? 18 hours? Yeah, so apparently it's gonna be an 18 hour journey all the way to Turkey. I'll be there a couple of days. I already met with the doctor on Zoom and it was kind of funny

because the time zones are so different. I had this Zoom call with them at like seven o'clock in the morning Arizona time, but it was five o'clock Istanbul time in Turkey. Turkey's become a really popular spot though for people you know getting their hair transplant done or their teeth done or things like that just because they have very high quality services in that country but at a much more affordable price than we have here in the States. So there's actually viral videos that you can see on social media of dudes. Put a picture on the screen of like all the bald dudes. Yes, like all these bald guys coming home from Turkey

with bandages on their heads after getting the surgery. And that's gonna be me. Matt. That's what I'm gonna look like. I'm kind of scared to see you like that, but I know it's gonna be worth it. Yeah, I'm gonna look kind of, I'm gonna look a little spooky.

It looks painful. Like it looks like it hurts. Well, it will hurt initially cause they have to put on a numbing shot. The numbing shot hurts. Are they gonna put me to sleep? No, I'm gonna be awake for the entire surgery. Okay, anesthesia's bad. But what they will hurt initially because they have to put on a numbing shot. The numbing shot hurts. Are they gonna put me to sleep? No, I'm gonna be awake for the entire surgery. Okay, anesthesia's bad.

But what they're gonna do is they're gonna individually take the hairs from the side of my head. Wait, it hurts? And implant them on my head. Do you need me to come? No, I'll be fine. I'm gonna need to take care of you afterwards. I'll be just fine, babe.

No, I'll be okay. Okay, well. You got your IUD removed by yourself. I didn't go in the- That was literally nothing. Okay, look, you got your IUD removed by yourself. I didn't go is literally nothing Okay, look at this the average flight time from Phoenix to Istanbul is 19 hours and 15 holy frick I'm gonna watch a lot of movies on that flight. Yeah, honestly, like what are you gonna do? You're never alone. I Know I'm always ready for you. I was at the kids 15 minutes Man, are you gonna get one of those like really bougie flights where you can like lay down?

I don't know. The company. If you do, please make a video because I want to see it. That'd be sick actually. Yeah, if I got like a first class plane ticket or something. Yeah. Have we ever flown first class? Only if someone else paid for it.

Like if a company paid for it, we would never. That's something about us. We're never going to pay for first class. We're doing economy every time. I was talking to someone at Disney and they were like, I only get first class now. I'm like, by the way, there's really no difference between first class and economy. We paid for like a slightly better seat on the way to London

because it was overnight. Yeah. And honestly, we were like, we should have just done economy. It was kind of a waste of money. Yeah, and I even fly, we fly frontier. We fly frontier all the time. Yeah, I just want to get there. Yeah.

I want to spend my money at the destination. Yes. Not on the journey. High five. But um. How do you feel about me getting more hairs on top of my head? I think you'll look great.

I would love you bald though. You know that. Be realistic though. Am I going to look more attractive? Yes or no? I feel very confident that I'm gonna like the results. Okay, sick. I like that. I like that. Yeah.

Good answer. Yes. Yeah. I think I'm gonna look better. I would love you either way. Obviously, I would be attracted to you either way. But you know what's really sexy? What's sexy? Confidence. Yes.

There you go. And my confidence is just gonna go through the roof after this. I think it will. I'm gonna be so much more confident all the time. Yeah. No, obviously it's just a surface level thing, but I do think that like, if it's just like the perfect opportunity

presented itself and it's like the timing works out, everything and it would just be cool to go to Turkey, a cool experience. Yeah, I'm excited for you. Apparently I can't wear a hat for- That's a bummer, cause you love hats. Like two weeks, a cool experience. Yeah, I'm excited for you. Apparently, I can't wear a hat for like two weeks. Love wearing hats. Apparently, that's not good for your hair either. But oh well. It can't be that bad.

Yeah. So after two weeks, the doctor told me after like two weeks, I can wear a bucket hat. And then I have to wait like over a month because bucket hats are really loose. I'll probably get a bucket hat for real though because that way I might look kind of like Frankenstein for a little bit with all these bandages and crap. So a bucket hat, I think it's like a month of that. Oh, the kids might be scared.

They might be a little spooked from me, yeah. I'll be on this podcast with bandages on my head. Should I freak people out? Should I wear a bucket hat on the podcast and people will get freaked out by all my- Not until two weeks, you want to risk the results. Oh yeah, I don't want to mess it up. You're flying all the way to Turkey.

I don't want to mess up those results. And luckily they're taking hair from the back of your head and putting it at the front. So there's a couple of different ways that they can do hair transplant surgery. So one of the ways is they literally will like take out a strip of your hair and then stitch, stitch your skin back together where they took the hair out. And that apparently is like the old way, because then you have this big scar on the back

of your head where they like, I guess they take the skin off too. But now the new way that they do this is they'll individually take the root of your hair on the sides of your head where the hairs will grow back and put them on top and surgically implant them. So they're gonna be going- It probably takes a really long time. Yes, they're going to do about I think they said at this point, it's over 2000 little

hairs are moving from the side of my head to the top. So then the ones on the side will grow back. They have to shave. They have to shave the sides of my head, but the top can stay. So they're not going to have to shave the top of my head, which is so nice because some people have to shave their entire head. Why don't you have to? Because where they're taking the hairs from the side, that's the only place where they need it shaved down

so they can see the root. Oh, because they don't have enough hair. Yeah. Oh gosh, wow. That's so tedious. No wonder it's expensive. Oh yeah. It's a very tedious process.

The company that I'm going with is the same company that did a series with bar stool sports They they had the series called me to watch that whole series. I want to watch it's called bald stool Where all these guys went and got their hair Transplant surgery in turkey. I literally just googled. I don't actually want to even admit that What did you just google? Tell me I'm gonna look it up

What language is spoken in Turkey? It's Turkish. It's okay. I would have guessed Turkish, but to be completely honest, I would have maybe thought Arabic because there's a lot of people that are Muslim in Turkey. I didn't even know if Turkish was a language. I wanna say, yeah, Turkey has a lot of mosques and-

Can you bring us back some Turkish delight? Yes! It's really good. Wait, is Turkish delight, like what is that? It's like a sticky candy like jellies, but covered in powdered sugar. Sometimes they put nuts in it. Ooh, yeah, and that's in line with the Witch of the Wardrobe. That's why I know that.

The Wicked Witch of... Turkish delight, Edmund has Turkish delight. What's her name? The White Witch. The White Witch. The White has Turkish what's her name the White Witch the White Witch Yeah, yeah, it's really good. Actually. I almost said the Wicked Witch of the West and I was like, oh gosh wrong movie Oh, wrong book. You know what? I'm excited about is like when our boys get to that age We can start rereading those books with them. Yes. I read that whole series with my grandma We've literally read all seven books. Well, maybe it's already happening because we're watching movies like Monsters Inc

cars up Ratatouille all these Pixar movies that we saw as kids. We're watching with our kids now and It's a blast. It's a lot of fun. It's really sweet full circle. We watched Peter Pan with them. Yeah Well, thank you for tuning in for another episode of the unplanned podcasts again If you haven't hit the like button or left a review for us, that would mean the world. It just goes a really long way. You can review us on Apple podcasts, Spotify,

and if you're watching on YouTube, you can hit the like button. Yeah, and you're at the end of the episode right now, so you're gonna have to get on your phone anyway to find another podcast. So you know that you're already on your phone. So just do this one quick little step and it honestly We feel so grateful. Yes, just those extra like five ten seconds. Thank you so much. Thank you guys

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