The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Brock, Boston & Kesley on Mormon taboos, surviving a plane crash, and waiting til marriage

Episode Date: February 18, 2026

This week, Brock and Boston Mikesell join Matt & Abby for an honest conversation about growing up viral, getting married young, and navigating life as twin brothers in the public eye. Brock shares what it was like marrying his high school sweetheart Kesley after a short engagement and how marriage shifts the twin dynamic. We also play a hilariously Mormon coded game of Agree to Disagree. This episode is sponsored by Better Help, Shopify, and Cash App. BetterHelp: Sign up and get 10% off at https://BetterHelp.com/unplannedpodcast #ad Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at shopify.com/unplanned. Little Spoon: Give them meals + snacks that are actually right for where kids are developmentally—balanced, intentional and made to support real growth. Go to littlespoon.com/UNPLANNED30 and enter code UNPLANNED30 for 30% off your first order. Cash App: Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/kssum24w #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement Discounts and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Visit medcan.com slash moments to get started. Our family got in a plane crash. Seeing the ground soon we were going down. I had all these different thoughts go through my mind. I remember just like holding onto my seat bracing for impact and then it was just black. Were guys like sliding into your DMs when he was on his mission for six months? Yeah. Other missionaries?

Other missionaries? How are these guys not locked in? We say we have twin telepathy and we actually have rehearsed this in the past. So we asked for shape. We do triangle. I don't know why he chose circle. Sorry, I forgot. He went off script.

I've tasted coffee. Both Brock and I did the same day. No way. We're going to H. We're going to H. double hockey sticks. No. Today on Unplanned, we sat down with viral twin brothers, Brock and Boston, who blew up when

they're only 12 years old. Recently, Brock married his high school sweetheart fellow TikTok creator Kessley after a short two-month engagement. This episode was so good, you guys. We talked about Utah culture, Mormon culture, the pressure of waiting until marriage, as well as the traumatic plane crash that nearly killed their entire family, all on today's episode. By the way, if you have not already subscribed to the podcast, the majority of you guys are

not subscribed. It's something like 60% of the people watching every week are not subscribed. So please subscribe. It's the free way you can support the show. Without further ado, let's get into it. What's up, dude? And welcome back to our plan. Guys, today we have Brock and Boston and Kessly with us. Super stoked to talk to you guys. Thank you for being here, by the way. We're excited. Thanks for having us. I was just asking them before we started filming about where they're currently living because I knew that they had spent a lot of time in Tennessee, but I was like, They're from Utah. This might be a little edgy.

I wanted to ask you guys, though, what's your favorite Utah square word? Freak. Am I allowed to say that? That's my favorite. Frick is my favorite one. And what the fetch? I still like.

What? I've never heard of that. You guys have heard fetch, right? Yeah. I never said it, but I've heard it. How do you use fetch in proper context as a Utah citizen? It's kind of like what the freak. You know, like, or Frick.

Are you fetching kidding to you? Yeah. Like what's that? Now that, we might need to cut that out of the episode. All right. Bleep that, blow out my mouth. What the bleep? Do people ever say that?

I mean, no. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. I say frick. I say prick. Yeah.

I think, like, I think I start saying that because Fred was like a YouTuber like 20 years ago when I was like a kid. Did you ever get? 20 years ago when you were young. Wait, Fred. Figgilhorn? Fred. Yeah. Oh my.

Oh my. I love him. I love him. That was like the beginning of brain rock. Like brain brought, yeah, back then. Yeah. He'd be like, hey, it's Fred. Like that guy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was actually really good. You like that? I've never heard you talk like that. Don't do it again. He was my idol. Okay. Oh, you're kidding.

That's too much. Okay, no, so I was saying, I was like, I know that they like are in Utah, but then Tennessee, I was kind of confused. Come to find out, their neighbors. Can you even say this? You guys were neighbors with Dave Ramsey in Tennessee? Yeah. Can we, is that?

Good old buddies. Can we say that? Is that public information? I don't know. We're out of that neighborhood now. I guess. That's so sad, dude. Dave is still a dream guest for this pod.

Yeah. You know? Dave's a cool guy. Did you guys meet him? Unfortunately, we didn't. But we like to claim as our neighbor, but my mom did. I promise. Oh, that's awesome.

So we have, we're kind of tight. They're kind of tight. I love Dave. I read his books when we wanted to get married young because that was- Matt talks about him a lot on this podcast. Just try to put on the pressure. Yeah. Yeah.

Dave, if you're watching this, we would love to chat with you. We're your biggest fans. You had some cool neighbors there. That's cool. So, Just right. Yeah, we love Nashville a lot. We're actually going there literally in a couple days.

Yeah. Do you like Nashville more or Utah more? That's hard. I actually love both. Like I feel like people ask me which one I love more, but it's such like a different way of life and like either one. Like Tennessee, we have some land, like farm animals and then like Utah, we live in the suburbs.

We have like friends that are close by and we have Swig too. So there is that. Yeah. I would say I, so I hated Tennessee at first because I was, like moving away from my girlfriend. I was, we were also in high school and stuff, so I was pretty hard.

But like now... That's a hard time to move. Yeah, it was awful. I hated it. Now I'd say that I like really love Tennessee just because like our farm, it's like the pace is a lot slower. We're not like doing crazy stuff all the time.

It's just chill. Okay, for anybody that gets you guys confused, you're Brock, you're Boston, right? Yes. Okay, I was gonna say because if you were Boston, I'd be like, why do you have your hand on her leg? Sorry, that was a really dumb joke.

But no, seriously, like, I'm generally curious. You guys are twins. You probably get twin questions asked all the time. How, like, how do people tell you guys apart? Because I'm dumb. Like, I legitimately... I feel like we look different. Yeah, I agree.

He's got more gray hairs. You don't have the time that. You guys don't have very thick hair. Wait, yeah. That's kind of dope. Is this called a burst fade? Is that what I'm seeing? Dude, I don't know.

Like, modern moot. My mom gives me my haircuts, so... No way. Yes. Uh-huh. Has that always been a thing? Your mom giving you guys? Always.

Always. Yeah. Frick, I need to learn. Wow. We have two boys and I. I need to learn. What if I, what if it's like dad-daz barbershop and I started getting my two and three-year-old hair cut?

You could literally learn it. I learned it. I had to do my own hair for like two years. So you could easily just pick it up. Oh, you did on your mission. Yeah. Yeah. You're kidding.

Yeah. I mean, it's kind of against. No. No, you totally can. I went to like some like Brazilian barbers and stuff and like, I don't know, I just kind of liked how I did my hair, so I just learned it myself. Wait, so you went on a mission two. to Brazil for two years.

That is hardcore. Oh, not for, oh, yeah, sorry. So I went there for two months, and then I had to come back home because I was having gallbladder attacks. So I had to get my gallbladder taken out because I had, like, gallstones and stuff. And then they shipped me back out

to actually Boston, Massachusetts where I, like, learned Portuguese still. And so I was still kind of like around like the Brazilians and stuff. But then I finished my mission out there. No way. It was pretty crazy. There's like a population of like Brazilian people

in Boston. It's crazy. It's a melting pot. You got like Ecuadorians, you got Brazilians, Cape Verdeans, like just so many different people. Wow. Okay, if you were to knock on my door right now, what would you say if you were on your mission? Dude, I would just invite you to church. Like that's like, we got church this Sunday.

You want to pull up? It's going to be fun. What do people usually say when you say that? People usually say no or they're like, ah, maybe like next time or something. That's basically it. Did anyone ever invite you inside their house and bake you cookies? because that's what Abby did for the mission. For the elders and sisters.

We became a restroom stop for us. We did. You guys are like the goats. Like missionaries would talk about you guys. We had a miracle. Like literally for the day you'd be like, that was a miracle. That's so awesome.

No, we became a restroom stop. They would knock on our door and be like, I'm so sorry, can we quickly go to that? I was like, sure. It happened more than once. I was like, I think we got communicated. We were newlyweds. Those were fun.

No, no, I'm talking about it. this house. Uh-uh. Oh. I did make the missions in Missouri. Wait, what the frick, Abby? What the frick? Abby.

What the frick? Where are you at? No, you're right. In Missouri, so we lived next to, um, I don't know the name of like the term for like the name of the building where the missions like me. I think it was just. Oh, the mission home? Isn't that like the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

No, but there's like a place where because. Where all the missionaries go? Yeah. Is it a church building or? Yeah, it was like right next to our house. Oh, okay. That's crazy. There's no temple in Springfield, Missouri.

This is my story. Like, oh wait, what were you saying? Was it called? No, it's just the church. It's just the church. It's where we do like transfers, I think if I'm like, understand everything correctly. Like all the missionaries go there and then they transfer like and get like their new

companion. Yeah. So like that's like a spot. They did have companions at this point. Yes. That's the meaning spot. It was like raining one day and I was walking to my house, which was right next to it. And someone just comes out with an umbrella.

Sister Shell walked me to my house under an umbrella. And then we started talking and then I was like, you guys should come over. and eat cookies and then we baked cookies for them and then I was like we can watch a movie and they're like no I was kind of a bad influence I push it hard I was like guys come on we don't need to say anything we did we did not watch you're already here

let's just watch a movie and they still didn't fold nope they didn't fold what there's a group of them there I think there was a group pressure too also to know yeah that's for the elder fog and sister shell that's like going on a mission is like hardcore though I'm always very impressed by people that do that I mean, what are some of the rules that you had to follow on your mission?

And you're about to start. Yeah, I'm about to start. Yeah. Good luck, bro. Honestly, the mission was awesome. Like, I feel like we didn't have like crazy, crazy rules. Like, what would you, how did you explain, like, just like the missionary rule? Did you go on a mission too?

I did. Where did you go? I went to Montana. Oh, cool. Yeah, that's why we love it. Well, I love it so much. He hasn't been before. I got to visit Montana.

Yeah. You do. Yeah. But some of the rules, like, we only could call our family once. week so like every Monday we'd call our families and so you know they just like really really recommended not to text them or call them throughout the week so you could really focus on the work what's some other rules like well no movies we learned that one wait was it no movies yeah no movies because you got to stay locked in yeah and then another rule would be like

you have to stay like with your companions so whoever you're with you have to stay with them at all times except for like bathroom obviously and stuff but yeah yeah yeah They can't date, right? You can't date on a mission? I mean, technically you're not supposed to, but. You guys break that. You guys were still dating, but you were not in the same. You were together, but like, we'd like email.

We'd also like text. Should I say maybe I FaceTime'd you? Yeah, you're not, you only are allowed to like FaceTime family. But like we would, you know. We're family, right? Now they are. Now you are. You know you're going to be.

Because our friends that have been on missions, a lot of them, broke up with their significant order while they were on their mission. Yeah. Yeah. So how did you guys stay together? That's really hard to do. It was hard. I don't know.

I feel like we both, I don't know, we both kind of just agreed that like we were sort of together but also like if things did change, like it would be okay because two years is like a long time. Yeah. So we kind of, we would talk just every Monday and then just kind of went from. From there, and then we came home, saw how we felt if we liked each other. What was that reunion like after two years? Because you had dated for a long time before your mission.

Yeah. That's crazy. You started dating at 14 and 15? Yeah. Yeah. Holy cow. Was there ever a time you're like, I'd rather just get married and not serve? See, that's what I was thinking because so.

That was my plan. It ended up changing. So, yeah, basically like my dad, he didn't serve a mission. And so I felt like no pressure from like family or anybody. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to do the same thing my dad did. My dad got married to my mom and stuff. Right out of high school.

I'm like, you know what? I'm going to do that same thing. And then she had other plans. She was like, all right. Oh, so you went on yours at the same time. Yeah, well, so the boys are 24 months. The girls are 18 months. So he actually went out before I did.

And then I went out six months after. So we'd get home the same time. But, yeah. No, you were the one to decide the. mission first. Yeah, actually I did. So that's kind of crazy too. But we were planning on getting married after high school. But then, I don't know, things just changed. Okay, be real with me though, were guys like sliding into your DMs when he was on his mission for six months? You tell me?

Not when I was home, but when I went out on my mission. Really? Yeah. What happened? Nothing. Just like, they would try to message me, but I like, other missionaries. Other missionaries? I'm like, how are these guys not locked in, bro? You got to be, you got. You got to focus on Jesus. Dude, there's a work. Well, they were on there. Also, you had dated for so long. Six years, you said?

Yeah. Yeah. So a lot of them knew that I had, like, someone at home. What does a DM look like from a fellow missionary? What would be a good? Hey, sister. I saw this scripture and it reminded me of you. I don't know.

They're more just like, they're like, I don't know, like small talk. Is there, like a cheesy scripture? I mean, not cheesy, but. like a just vanilla one that's overused like I know I know like New Testament like John 316 like somebody could be like yeah like John 316 just like spoke to me and I just like really love you like is there something like Mormon? Is there something like that? I don't know I got to think like the word of wisdom would they be like man the word of wisdom was speaking to me like I don't I don't know well like there's like first Nephi four verse six says and I was led by the spirit

not knowing beforehand the things which I should do no one's you that but like I guess you could be like oh I was led by the spirit to like talk to you or something I don't know there you go if you need that to slide into a mission yeah okay so you guys didn't obviously go on your mission at same time because you're about to leave for yours yeah if you guys would have like decided to serve a mission at the same time is there a world where they would put you both on the same one because you're identical twin brothers I don't know I feel like that is that against the rules no I think it could like

I don't know. Yeah, it's like always possible. Like the thing that they do is you go, you felt like these forms like in stuff, you sign your life away. Not really. Just I kind of tell them your interest. Like,

if you would be interested in learning a language or going out of the States and stuff, you just send them that. And then they pray about it and then they choose the location of where you serve. So, yeah. I guess like they totally could.

Like I've heard of other siblings serving in the same area that their other siblings served or like someone's dad served in like the same area. I don't know. It's just random. It's like, it's a lottery. And isn't there like a, like a month period that you go somewhere like near BYU's

campus to be trained and like learn the language? Yeah, the MTC. So it's like the mission training center. That's where you go. Mission training. Oh, MTC. Okay. Yeah.

Uh-huh. We were actually thinking about this. We're curious to ask you guys. What do you think that people get them like most commonly get wrong about like the LDS church or like Mormonism? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Because I feel like honestly, Sorry to you on the spot. Utah. And like because of like the secret lives of Mormon wives, like this has been such a topic online. Like people are talking about it so much and like online. And so I feel like there's got to be some things that you hear or like read about or see like represent and you're like not really that. Yeah.

Yeah. I think honestly there's a lot to be honest. But I think one thing that a lot of people get confused about is if we actually worshiped Jesus Christ, which we do. it's in our name, the Church of Jesus Christ, a lot of these saints. But the Mormon name was a nickname, and people think we either worship Mormon or Joseph Smith was the one that translated the book of Mormon into English. People think we worship him, you know, like all these things.

But in reality, it always comes back to Jesus Christ. I think that's the most misconception about our church. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Do you ever think about how there's no real adults and we're all just figuring it out? because I kind of came to that realization not too long ago, and that's the reason why I go to therapy. And it's been so helpful for me, especially with the miscarriage that we went through last year, dealing with depression. I'm super proud of myself. I got off of antidepressants recently. And therapy's been a big part of that. So I'm a huge fan of BetterHelp because they make it easy to get help online.

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Sign up and get 10% off at betterhelp.com slash unplanned podcast. That's betterh-e-l-p.com slash unplanned podcast. The church made an official statement like five years ago, right, that they wanted to people to call, like, the term LDS is now used more so than Mormon, right? That's like an official church statement. So like a question I get from people that, are Christian that like don't quite understand like what LDS people believe is what's the thing about coffee. Can you can you maybe explain the thing about coffee for someone that doesn't

fully understand what that is? It's an interesting topic because we're told not to drink coffee. In my perspective, I think it's more of just like an addiction thing like coffee can be addictive but so can soda. And so like if you're addicted to it, then maybe, you know, like kind of stay away. just because you don't want it to become like your main focus. Like you don't want to be able to survive, you know, without this thing. That's how I look at it. I think it's more of just an addiction thing than it is the coffee. But I'm still learning.

So I don't know. Yeah, totally. It's also like a thing too. So in our church we believe like that we have just prophets here on earth today that speak to God, talk to God, and they give us commandments. And so one of that was to not drink coffee. That's just like one of like the commandments we were given. So yeah, it's in this thing.

It's called the word of wisdom. And in the word of wisdom, it says like, well, it's like a health code. So it's like all these things that we follow to stay healthy. Like we don't smoke, use drugs. But then also has like things that like you should do. Like you should eat. What is it? Like fruit vegetables and moderation.

And so it's like it's kind of like a big health code they gave. But that's the thing that's the thing like coffee is like the most common thing. So it's like a commandment of just like a health code. And then you have coffee in there and people like, oh, well, coffee's like the best. It's awesome. So I try people get mixed up. And then the word of wisdom, is that within the book of Mormon or is that a separate, like, doctrine in addition to the book of Mormon? Yeah, it's separate.

Yeah. And that was written by Brigham Young. Is that, who wrote it or who? No, it's Joe Smith. Joe Smith. Okay, okay, got it. And then who is Mormon? I actually, like, or who is the guy?

I got to get my facts right, dude. Like, I need enough. They're putting the hot seat right now. See, that's awesome. I got these questions all the time on my mission. So it's like not worth. Yeah, not a problem. I'll bid you an answer that.

Yeah. So in the Book of Mormon, we had these golden plates that were kind of passed down from generation to generation. So it starts with this guy named Nephi. And then it goes all the way down until like Mormon and Moroni. So Mormon is the dad of Moroni. And he basically sealed up the plates. Like Maronai hid the plates until they were. were, it was time to bring him out.

But Mormon, you know, I kind of sealed and put all the plates together. So you have all these like old, so like, let's think of it as other prophets on like the other side of the world like, I don't know, like years and years and years like before Jesus Christ came. Yeah, yeah, just like that. Yeah. And it's basically the same, but with prophets here in the America, it's like the ancient America.

So it's like same sort of thing. Writing down all their like revelations and stuff. And then you got this guy Mormon at the very end. like you know what i'm gonna compile all these i'm gonna write my name on it and so like that's what he did okay and then okay and then correct me if i'm wrong so people that are a part of the church of jesus christ of latter day saints wow that's a long name i feel that's why they say so lDS people yeah yeah yeah like uh identify as christians and believe that these plates were then translated by joseph Smith back in the 1800s and then that's we get the book Mormon yeah yeah okay so yeah we just

because like go to Smith who's called to be a prophet of God and then from that time after he was called to be a prophet we continue to have prophets and revelation and stuff so like we still have like modern day scripture coming out from our prophet today and from his apostles that we believe so yeah dope thank you for you let's put you in the hot too yeah no I love it it's like we get we have like continued revelation so we have more things to help us and guide us in today's world. Because like back in the day, they didn't have phones and stuff. You had no guide to like go and say, hey,

that we're going to have phones in the future. Don't do this, don't do that. But now we have like apostles and prophets so we believe in today that can give us guidance on how to use our phones and how to use social media. Okay, I've seen missionaries doing social media. Is that like encouraged now to like reach people? So it's like you're allowed to like post faith-based stuff on social media

while you're on your mission, but not to just like scroll and everything. Yeah. Yeah, that's basically it. Yeah. They have, I've had, I had Facebook on my mission, so I was able to, like, post on Facebook just a little more, like, uplifting content. And then, yeah, they encourage you just because, like, social media can go so far. Yeah.

That's cool. Okay. That's dope. Thanks for explaining all that, guys. That's cool. Hopefully it made sense. Yeah. I think your guys' content is specifically, like, sweet and enjoyable for us to watch

because we have two little boys now that kind of think they're twins, because they're a year apart. So they're like our buddies. And we always are like, I just hope they stay friends. And I hope that they stay close. And so seeing you guys, obviously you guys are twins.

But like you're still close now as young adults is so fun. But I feel like, okay, so Matt asked earlier, I feel like people can tell you guys apart. Maybe just not Matt because. I'm dumb. But like, do one of you guys have like a freckle on your like left cheek or something that like people are like,

oh yeah, I'm the freckle one. I don't know. There was a freckle or like Like if I'm looking at you You okay it's my left You're right but you have like right there You got a freckle but you don't have it Then I can know that Brock is the one

As babies did you guys look like Identical I can't even tell them apart Really yeah Okay hold up though has it ever been weird Like did you ever have a time Where you got them confused Be real right now

There's been times where like I'll hear Because sometimes our voices can sound the same Yeah but they sound different I don't know it's weird But yeah, so there's been times where, like, I'll walk out and, like, Boston will be turned a different way. And I'll almost think it's Brock, but they're not helping out the haircuts. Yeah. Hey, he copied me with the mullet and stuff.

So that's why. Because I even, like, from a side glance, confuse you with Caleb sometimes, your older brother. And just because, like, the side or, I don't know, you're, like, not, like, staring at them in the eyes. Like, you would know then. But, like, I told Caleb, I was, like, sit right here. And I was like, oh. You don't have to. I was like, so I can see that happening.

Especially you guys spend a lot of time together. Did that weird you out when you got them confused? You're like, oh, gosh. Yeah, luckily it was just in my mind. So I was just like, like, it's never happened where I'm like, I don't know, accidentally touching Boston. And you're like, oh, whoops, kiss the wrong brother. Like that's never. Yeah.

Okay. Luckily, that's never happened. But, yeah, it's weird. Sometimes they sound the same. And I'm like, what is going on? You guys need a pranker at some point. Brooklyn and Bailey. It was dirty, you guys.

They prank their husbands. You guys know Brooklyn and Bailey? Yes. We had them on the show and they did like a like a swap prank. And I think it was Dakota that grabbed. I think it was yeah, Brooke Bailey. He grabbed Bailey's behind. Which is not his one.

That's crazy. Yeah. And like in the video like they filmed this whole thing in the video. It was all really. I thought it was the funniest video. Yeah. So you guys got to do that to her sometimes. Oh my God.

I'm just kidding. Maybe after the mission. Oh, gosh. That's funny. But I was going to ask, like, growing up, was it like, okay, this is, this is kind of Brock's thing, this is Boston's thing? Or did you guys, like, were you guys always, like, we have the same interests, like, always want to do the same things?

I feel like we kind of grew up, like, completely different. I was more into, like, sports and stuff. Boston was more of, I don't know, he loved doing, like, he loved making money, like doing random side hustles. Okay. Yeah. Mr. Entrepreneur over here?

Yeah. I feel like your whole family's entrepreneurs. Yeah. Almost, almost got into Disney. What? I could see. I could totally see that.

I took dance. Do you guys ever take dance growing up? Do you guys do like, Oh wait, we actually did. We did hip hop in. I did break dancing. Yeah.

I wish I would have taken break dancing. That's so dope. Can you guys? Can you guys sit on your heads? Didn't get to that level. I think we actually did like one or two lessons and then after that we were done. Yeah. We were at last interest.

Yeah. That's funny. We should enroll. Griffin. I want to enroll, I'm also like, should I give them private lessons? Because I used to, like, I had private tap lessons. You can tap. You can tap. I can tap. Oh, that's so cool. I need to, I need to whip. I've never tapped on TikTok ever. I feel like I should do that. Oh, do it. Yeah. It'd be kind of fun. It would be crazy. Sorry, we're getting distracted. So you guys had separate interest growing up, but you guys always got along. Uh-huh. Yeah. That's always good. It's been good. Yeah. And what's your love story? How did you guys meet? She remembers it better than I do. Okay. So my friend and I just went to the movies and they were there with their cousin and uncle and stuff.

And this is, so I had a channel with my family and they apparently watched it because of their sister. And so they noticed me and my friend and came up and was like, hey, can I, can we get a picture? So I took a picture with them. Not really like, nothing crazy there. But I remember I went home and I thought it was crazy because it was boys who came up to me. You know, like, I've never had boys take pictures with me. So I went to my mom and was like, look, this was crazy. They tagged me in their photo. Like, boys took pictures with me.

Boyce took pictures with me. Wait, how old did you think that Brock was, though? Oh, my gosh. The thing is, Brock was here to me. He was tiny. So I literally thought he was like my brother's age, which he was saying now. Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do.

We need to send it to us. We'll send it. We'll send it. We'll send it. I have to see this. Yeah, but he was super short, and so I didn't think anything of it, right? But then I told my mom was like, oh, look at these kids. Like, they were so nice and stuff.

Look at these kids. Same age as me, bar. And then my mom did some investigating and just, like, looked at their account because they had a combined account and realized, like, they were my age and they have their own YouTube channel. And so then my mom was like, we should go and collab with them. So we set up a time to collaborate. No, we were the ones that DM'd. You guys.

Yeah. And I set that up. Yeah. Oh. Wait, did you guys both have family channels? I think you were. Like was it your parents that were doing the channel and then you guys were like in the in the channel or how did that work?

I was in the family channel. And we were just together on our own. Yeah. Just together. Okay. Okay. Nice. So yeah.

It was, yeah. Just collaborated and then we all became friends there. Mm-hmm. And then like two years later, probably when we were 16 is when we really started like dating. Ah, okay. Like 15, 16, yeah. Oh, so it wasn't 14 and 15. We met 14, started dating 15?

I was 13, I think, when I met you. Oh, wow. I think it was 13, yeah. And then we started dating. And you're a year older. Was that? I'm six months older. Six months older.

Okay. Cougar. Wow. That's like, I know, Gabby. That's wild. Pretty crazy. Pretty crazy. Yeah, so we, yeah, collaborated and then hung out, started dating.

that's sweet so you guys have both like I've all done YouTube for like since you were six grade we're blogging in elementary yeah and you guys wild whose idea was it to start YouTube so it was my idea because like we I mean we grew up like watching YouTubers and stuff like that was kind of thing we started we stopped watching just like regular TV and then I remember like Brock was over at our cousin's house and I called him up and like dude come over here we're gonna film the video Alyssa said that our sister she's going to edit it and we'll put it all together so we did it it was like a Q&A or something and then like a couple days later we hit like a hundred subscribers and we were just freaking out we couldn't believe it we're a big deal our big break yeah that's sweet what was the moment for you guys when you were like oh we made it because for for me that was getting the silver YouTube play button was there something like that for you guys that felt really cool I think even earlier when we got like the 10,000 um the 10,000 subscriber email from YouTube We were just up like all night waiting for it to hit 10,000.

I was like, please, please, please. So I feel like that was insane. Yeah, that was right after we posted our first collab video with the Leroy's. And then after that we hit 10,000 and we just were, yeah, could not believe it. No, I didn't realize this. So you guys, like you were collabing with your family's channel and then your family had been, like how long had your family been vlogging on YouTube or creating content on YouTube? Yeah, so I was in sixth grade too.

And I think when we started girls. growing followers was probably when I was in seventh grade. And yeah, it started with like my mom and I. We called it a whole different name. It was called Raising Mom. And it was just going to be like our relationship because I'm really close to my mom. And it was so fun. But we started filming around with the family and they loved it too.

And so we're like, oh, let's just change it to the Leroy's. And so we filmed, you know, like just our daily lives and stuff. And people caught on to it. And it was fun. It was really fun. Yeah. Was there ever a time through being in the public eye for so long that something like got posted or something that got shared that you guys were like, oh, wait, I wish I could take that back. Something like that you wanted private that went public.

I don't know if you guys want to keep this in. But like when you guys like broke up for a second and then the video on TikTok, how that girl was like taking pictures and then posted up from the cheer competition. There was a girl leaking some about you guys without your permission. That's so sad. So you guys are like teenagers and you're just. navigating, like dating, and you're on a small break and some girl leaked it. Is that what happened? Well, so we came out and said, like, we were on a small break, but then we got back together

and we didn't really want to be in the public eye like that fast. So we kind of just took a break, but we went out in public and just a girl saw us and we're like, they're back together. So. Yeah. It's on it. It's okay. Of likes, it was crazy seeing it.

Yeah. It was okay. Like it didn't bother me too much. much but it was just funny. Yeah. Like it, things spread really fast. That's wild. And you guys were what?

Like 17, 16 when this happened? Yeah, 17. 17. Yeah. That's so crazy. It seems like, like, both of your families are really close. Like, you guys are all, like, really close with, like, your parents and, like, your siblings and stuff.

And it just makes me wonder, like, what did your parents do that you think growing up that, like, made, like, having a relationship with them as adults. So, like, it seems, like, easy. and fun, like enjoyable for you guys. Oh, that's a good question. I would say, I feel like my parents had a really good job of, like, taking care of us, like making sure we're doing the right things. But they also weren't too strict because I've seen with some other friends

where their parents are super strict and they like sneaky kids. Yeah. So like I feel like my parents had a good job of that. They're like, hey, you can always talk to us. Also, don't do dumb stuff, but also go have fun. I feel like they had a good balance. Yeah. Oh, 100%.

Would you say with your mom? Because I feel like you have a good, really. this relationship with your mom? Yeah, my mom, she, I mean, she, she knows that, like, everyone's going to make mistakes, right? And so she would tell me, like, oh, I did this. Like, it's okay, like, you're, you know, just, she always made me feel comfortable to tell her things. Like, if I did make a mistake, like, I would be able to tell her and be like, what do I do, you know? But, yeah, they weren't super strict. They had a lot of trust in me. And that I felt like, as a, as a teen was like, okay, like, I don't want to lose my parents' trust.

so, you know, I'm not going to stay out too late. And if I wanted to, like, I could text them and they'd be like, yeah, sure, you know. But it was just always like a just a lot of trust. And they always communicated with me really well so that I was comfortable to tell them things that, you know, maybe usually people would hide from their parents. This episode is sponsored by Shopify. Starting something new isn't just hard. It's actually terrifying. So much work goes into the thing that you're not.

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Well, they were already planning on getting married. Did they're helping us out? They're like, okay, let's go be in a venue. Let's get this thing done quick. That's so unique, though, because I feel like most parents, at least in America, if they're 21-year-old kid, yeah, and I'm going to, okay, you're not a kid, you're an adult. But, like, I mean, I look at myself, I look at myself six years ago. I'm like, oh my gosh, I was still.

so young like that's that's so unique yeah they just they wanted to help us out they also got married at like 18 yeah and so they're all young getting married yeah it's like this is this is the regular yeah maybe that's a little too late that's super common in Utah right yeah yeah people often thought like still I think there's people that think that were LDS because of how we got married yeah yeah the stereotype yeah we're actually very late for like The Utah. Like, you're kidding. Yeah.

What's the standard age? Like 18, 19. No. I'm waiting right now. No, you're, I'm about to be way late. You're 21. You're a grandpa.

I'm stressing, guys. I'm stressing. He should have kids like two years ago. You don't have seven children yet. What do you do in Boston? Oh no. Come on. Literally.

Yeah, it's crazy. So I don't know. They were supportive though. Like they, that's sweet. They were very supportive. Well, guys, I listen to you guys on a podcast.

that was posted five months ago and you guys were still dating five months ago. Yeah, that's what it said. That is crazy. So you guys, how many months? So four months ago you got engaged? Is that correct? We got engaged in September. Okay.

Math, what is that? September to October. So that's like almost five months. Yeah. It's been, you guys got engaged almost five months ago. You've now been married for three months. Okay. Yeah.

That's a great time. You whipped that wedding together pretty quick. Yeah. We did. Was it big? Was it big? Yeah. I don't know what a big wedding looks like there.

I don't really know what a big wedding was. Like it's fine. Like what would you say is like a huge wedding? I would say a big wedding is like 200 to 300. 200 plus. We had 200 plus I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I think you had 200 people rolling in. Yeah.

So that is a big wedding, I guess. And did you have like a temple wedding and then like a after party like reception sort of thing? Is that how that works? Yeah. That's dope. Yeah. So we got married in the temple that morning. And then later we had like a lunch and then we did a little ceremony.

We did a little ceremony. And yeah, vows and stuff and then the reception and stuff. Nice. So you guys are newly, newly wet. Yeah. You were as newly wet as they come. Literally. But you guys have some history too.

So do you feel like the transition has like been pretty smooth? Yeah. Yeah, I feel like it's been pretty chill. We were already with each other so much. Yeah. The only thing different is like now we're with each other at night. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, there's a couple of things like toilet paper that she kind of does wrong. A little argument is, but... You're like, no. No, it's been awesome. That's sweet. I feel like we've been loving it. It's been so much better for us to just be married. That's sweet.

Instead of just like hanging out and... Yeah. You guys were patient. Very patient. What is something that you've learned about one another since getting married? Oh, my goodness. The toilet paper, it goes on that... Is this a different?

Is this something that you guys disagree about the way the toilet paper goes on the world? We talked about actually in a video. We did. I don't know. That's something done. But she's getting so much better. She's doing so good. I don't really care.

how the time the paper goes, but he does so, I was like, okay. Who's the messy one? He's messy. I'm not messy. If we took a picture of our house right now, you'd see. She just packages out. She probably has makeup stuff on the counter.

I guess. Is she the spender? I feel like we do a good job. I feel like we do a good job. I feel like we both spenders. It's not a good situation. You're deep in thought right now. What are your honest thoughts?

About them? Yeah. Who's the spender? Who's the spender? Who's the messy one? I don't know. I feel like you guys are like. Boston would say I was messy.

I don't say you guys are like spend like spenders, but like you guys like are you. You guys save your money. We're thrifty. Yeah. Did you feel like everyone was putting the pressure on you now that your brother, your identical to a brother's gay barrier? You're like. Yeah.

Honestly, not really. Like I think there hasn't been a whole lot of pressure with that. So I'm chilling. Okay. I'm going to hit you guys with like a really deep question right now. So this is like too deep. Oh, too. Okay.

Just take a deep breath. Let me stretch. That's true. Rainbow breath. I teach my kids to do rainbow breaths, like, whenever they're like, you know, something. If they're upset, we'll do, I'll, like, lead them in the rainbow breath. I just, I just way overhyped this. Basically, here we go. Here's a question. What is, I don't know why to make this so weird. Okay. What is, I'm sorry. Wow. Now everyone's comfortable in this room. Okay. What is something unplanned that happened to you that changed the trajectory of your life. Oh, I know it. Wait, if you know it, then just say it. Oh, okay. Wait, for you or for them? Either way. He's just thinking about us.

Wait, what is it? No, wait, no, no, no, I was thinking about that. I was thinking about something completely different. Wait, what was it? I want to know. No, wait, not. This is an offer. Come on, say.

The thing that, like, changed our life. I feel like the most was probably when our family got in a plane crash. I saw that video pop up and I was just like. That's crazy. Yeah. I think the craziest thing about that, like looking into it is like most people that have been in a plane crash like don't you don't ever hear their stories like that is wild i think there were like it was i think there were six plane

like small plane crashes in utah that summer and we were some of the only survivors yeah crazy so how old were you yeah we were 16 years old it was just with our family so it was well actually just with our parents and then uh the pilot and his wife and so we yeah we were flying over actually it's kind of crazy well you guys know Brooklyn and Bailey right yeah okay did they talk about on their how Dakota and them met

with like their dating series and stuff I think you did yeah yeah okay so that was the day so like Dakota lives in that area like where we were flying our plane and everything and they were on the date and we're like okay while you guys are on the date like we'll go for like a little small ride

for a short ride in the small plane and so that's what happened like we were flying over the UN in mountains and then we lost power and then yeah we ended up crashing Okay, so yeah. Holy quick. That is probably like on my, on the list of like most terrifying things you could experience

a plane crash. Walk me through like every step of what went down from from hearing that, oh, the plane's going down. Did they say that it was going to go down? Yeah, I think he said like we're going to have to land. Yeah. He said it's going to be hard. Okay, so you guys, okay, first of all, why were you guys in a private plane?

Why were you guys just like flying over the mountains? Literally just for fun, like the pilot, really good buddy of ours. He's just like, hey, we'll go up and just fly around and stuff for a sec, and then we can come back and just chill and everything. And this is a family and this is a family friend. And how is this family friend? Like, how does this connect to Brooklyn and Bailey and Dakota? So Dakota is friends with Shad and Jasselin.

The pilot. Chad is the pilot. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Got it. And Chad or Chad?

Chad. Yeah. Chad. That's such a rad name. Oh my. gosh. Okay, so Shad just like said to you guys and your parents, hey, I'm going to go take a, take a little flight around the mountains in Utah. You guys want to come? It was literally that simple. Yeah, and we were kind of joking around too, like, do we need a pair of shoes? Ha, ha, ha, ha, whatever. And, like,

we were recording Instagram stories. And then our dad was actually doing like a family vlog. So we have it like all recorded too and everything. Like before, like, or when we were actually in the air. So like, we got into the plane, like, Brock and I were in the very back. Our mom and the pilot's wife were in the middle and then Chad and my dad were up front and like we were just flying around and stuff and then brock you post on like your snapchat or whatever oh yeah i had a a snapchat story of me in the plane i'm like might die but you know the vibes and then there's a video and then actually like that next day uh i took like a picture and it's just of all my bruises from the seatbelt and stuff so it's like you see that picture and that video and then you see like the bruises picture so did that get posted

in the air like did you have soft service so i literally just said it's so i literally just saved it. I didn't like post it, but that would have been wild if we got posted. How long were you guys in the air before the plane went down? Wasn't it like, I think it was like 15 minutes. I think it was like 15 minutes we were in the air and then it was like, it was like, it wasn't like 12 seconds between when we were like, okay, we need to go, we're landing, we need to go down and then we went on. Oh my gosh, only 12 seconds. Yeah, so it was like quick. We had to like think of things like what we, yeah. That was actually the craziest. Yeah. Wow. We just had a million things like running through our head. I remember I remember literally seeing the plane and

like even like seeing the ground to when we were going down I'm like am I good enough like what what's going to happen to my body like I had all these different thoughts go through my mind and then what were you thinking about the time when we were going down I was just saying to prayer I was like what else can you do like you're just I don't know stuff you can't there's nothing else to decide just like set a prayer and then I remember just like I was like holding onto my seat or something and then like we were yeah bracing for impact and then it was just like a crunch and then it was just black like and then you you passed out I think everyone's I think I I think everyone blacked out.

Because that's how hard the impact was. Yeah. Was this like a nose dive? No. I feel like it's more of like a hit where, I don't know. It felt like an instant like grudge. Like a bone, like a bum and a little bit of a slide. So I just.

Gosh. Uh-huh. And then this is my question too. You landed next to a lake. When you land a plane that's crashing or you're like trying to navigate a plane crash. Is it good to land in water? Because I know the guy that landed the lake in the Hudson. blacked out. Well, the Hudson River guy who landed the, they made a movie about him. He landed

the plane in the Hudson River. So like, is there a reason that he landed not in the water? Yeah. So it was like purely just because he like literally like felt, I don't know, prompted to. Yeah, prompted to go and land on the safe. So there's three options. You had the lake. You also had the sand, like the beach area and then the sagebrush, sagebrush flat, that area. And he literally just felt prompted. He's like, I need to go and land here because if I do any these other things it's going to kill everyone. So he's going to flip. Yeah, he literally just had those thoughts.

And so he went and decided on the Sagey worst flat. And then, of course, a lot of people got hurt, but no one died. That is a miracle that no one, like, yeah. And there's people close by. Yeah. Which is, it looked so remote. So that's kind of surprising. Yeah, so it was pretty far out.

It was out in this place called Moon Lake. And there's actually an EMT that was on site that happened to see our plane going down. Like right in between these like two pine trees or something, And they're just about to head out. Yeah. And so he's like, that doesn't look right. I got to go. He said a running, yelled at his son to go grab like their med kit and stuff.

And they came running, they came running towards our plane. Which had that med kit like had the IV something or whatever. That ended up saving our dad's life if they didn't have it in time. That is so wild. Because your dad had some of the worst injuries of everybody, right? He broke like everything except for his arms. Yeah. He broke his like pelvis, his legs.

Yeah. Like everything. They both had spinal. Or it was like... Bleeding everywhere, bleeding out of his ears. It was wild. How many minutes did it take

for the paramedic to respond? I think for the other... There was an ambulance too that was doing another training that was like 45 minutes away or like closer than where the hospital was. Yeah, so it was like another miracle that they were able to get people

to come to us. But yeah, I can't remember how long it was. Because you could have landed anywhere. Like the mountains. Yeah, if it was minutes before we would have been in the mountains. We would have been on the other side of the mountains. would have seen us yeah no way we could have landed and I remember on the video they said that he

thought to turn off the engine or else it would have probably like exploded oh gone up in flames yeah yeah yeah so the plane didn't catch on fire uh-uh but there's like fuel leaking out the side of the plane it was a hot summer day like like the best things happened in a bad in the worst situation yeah they're like could have so much worse which i'm sure you probably don't necessarily like hearing that though because you're like this was a scary traumatic thing but like just like thinking about about something like that happening and the way that you guys were able to like share about it. Honestly so quickly afterwards

because I watched the video like right after it had happened. I think you had like your dad was still in the hospital. And like I was like they clearly have like talked about this as a family as well as you can like to start processing that type of thing. And my question is like you guys flew here. Now is flying. Does it feel separate because it's like a bigger plane and commercial or like yeah. Is there still like a fear associated with that? How do you not have a.

have a serious fear of flying and I've never been in a plane crash. Yeah, I feel like in the beginning right after our plane crash, I was fine. I'm like, oh, I could go on a plane and like this would be fine. And then I swear it was like three months later we're going on a flight and I was just like stressed out of my mind. And then Ailer just took my mom to just yell at me and be like, we're getting on a flight. It's going to be fine. And then exposure therapy. Yeah, expose.

I'm a little bit of yelling. Shout out to my mom. You're like crying and you're like, mom, I'm terrified. She's just, get on the plane. So, yeah. Yeah, she's probably like, what, is it going to happen again? How is your mom not traumatized from that? Your mom seems like a bulldozer dude.

She's crazy. Yeah, she's awesome. She's awesome. Kessley, what was your reaction to hearing about your, like, at the time, boyfriend, almost dying in a plane crash? Ex-boyfriend. Your ex-boyfriend? Oh, you were apart?

Well, we were kind of in a weird, like, phase, I guess. Like, I guess you could say we were on a break. But we were still talking. So we were kind of together. But it's actually funny because I was at the hair salon. So I was at the hair salon getting my hair done. And both Brock and I are just Snapchatting back and forth. And he's like, I don't know how he had service on the plane, but he had service on the plane.

And so he was like, yeah, look, I'm in the plane. I was like, oh, that's crazy. And then there was a second there where I was left on delivered for a second. And the last thing I saw was he was in the plane. So I was like, oh, he could have lost service. But then there was a thought that popped up in the back of my mind that was like, what if he got in a plane crash? Like, I don't know.

I don't know what it was. Like nothing could have led me to think that, but I just did. I was just like, what if? Like that would be scary. And then like two seconds later, our friend, our close friend calls and says, oh my gosh, Brock and Boston just got a plane crash. And I started flipping out. And like I have like my bleach in my hair.

and foils and everything. I was flipping out. Like my mom was there and I was like, mom, Brock and bossing out in a plane crash. I had no idea if they survived because like you said, instantly you think like, oh, yeah, no one's there, you know? But we later found out that like everything was fine, just lots of like injuries and stuff. But it was just the scariest. Like I could not focus that whole night.

Like, I don't know. It was the craziest experience, though. And this break, like did hearing about the plane crash make you want to get back together in a weird way? Was that like something that you were like, I love him, I need him, like, I don't know. I feel like, yeah, in a way, we started talking like a lot more because this break was dumb. You know, we were like high school, almost middle school relationship, I guess you could say, you know. So it was just a dumb argument. And then, you know, this little thing that has.

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Family is the most important. And, like, tell everyone that, like, you love them. And, yeah, I just, yeah. I didn't say, yeah, the biggest takeaway is, like, It made life more meaningful in a way or like it made it feel like, okay, like we got a, like, we got a second chance at life. That's good. And this break, was this the same break we talked about earlier? Was this like another break in addition to the original break?

How many breaks were there? Actually, wait, that might have been. That might have been a different break. Oh, wow. We had like, we had two breaks, I think. Yeah. Like where we were like, we were like technically broken up, but we're like, we're still, we were still talking. Like nothing, you know, we weren't dating other people.

just. I feel like we never went too long without like contacting each other. Like these bricks were really short too. It was dumb. Wow. Yeah. And also circling back to like you guys deciding to like kind of date but then obviously it's going to look so differently like when you're both on your mission.

Like that was really mature to be like yeah like we're probably we'd like to stay together but also like holding it like open handedly like you know if it works out like that's really mature. Whereas I feel like us and we were we dated in high school too. We would have been like we are. stay like we were just like immature oh for sure

I mean it really was yeah we were like there's no other option we were staying together but like it was yeah that's just like the high school crazy hormones and passions yeah

no it's true I feel like we totally would have thought that but like in reality two years is a lot yeah and so we're thinking like yeah and so we were thinking you know if if we get to stay together after the mission

like that's gonna be the best thing but like if there's other plans you know like it's gonna suck but we'll you know go with it so what was that conversation like after the mission you guys coming back together who who is the person that said are we

are we doing this like who said it first I don't know I think come on you know who was I mean I was that's private I don't know I would I on the mission I would pray I think about Kessley like every day like that's just like kind of what I would do so I don't I think I was kind of ready but by the time I got home like she knew I loved her and stuff and that I wanted to continue

to keep dating and everything but I would say it wasn't up until like our trip we took a trip together actually it was like a week after I got home yeah a week after you got home to yeah to like Alabama went down by by the beach and stuff and then we came back home up to Tennessee and we just kept talking about the getting the other logistics of it what we're going to do it and then it was like then when we made the decision right yeah it was i feel like it was mutual i think we were both like this is a huge step like are we ready for that but then yeah it just we all we thought of like the logistics and things and everything just led to like getting married and so i think yeah i think like some other parts too is like kess and i've been together forever i also came home

and i was able to see her for a little bit so like we we went was like 18 months without seeing other yeah and so that was like another thing is we also like had our missions line up to being i know three weeks apart from being able to see each other when we got home so that's pretty cool too kind of random but you jogged my memory when you talked about praying don't latter-day saints not believe in hell but there's like different levels of heaven so it's like everyone has an afterlife but depending on you know you know x y and z you end up in a different like realm is that correct yes yeah yeah so we believe yes so we yeah so we yeah so we believe that so like we believe believe like if you were I don't know to if you were to be baptized and turn all the covenants

that you're supposed to like these special promises with God that you'll be able to live in like a celestial glory and then there's also one that's like like we compare celestial glory to like the sun like it's as bright as the sun yeah and then we compare like yeah then we have terrestrial which is another one it's like compared to the brightness of the star the stars right oh the moon sorry I'm getting mixed up but then there's then there's telrestrial where it's like the of like the moon and stuff. And then we also do believe like that there's hell, but it's kind of hard to get there.

Yeah. Because he wants all of his kids at the end of the day to be within. Even if you had like a really bad kid that's kind of like doing everything wrong, like you still like would want to like love them and help them out. And so that's what we have Jesus Christ. He comes into play, help us out. And through him, we can repent and become better.

And you've said through your mission that it kind of helped you get out of your shell. What was it about the mission that did that for you? Before the mission, that's pretty social. Well, actually not crazy social. I feel like the mission was where it hit me where I'm like, I need to be talking to more people and stuff. And I actually learned a language too on my mission. So I got to experience like a whole new culture.

And I was just talking to people every day, facing rejection of just inviting someone to church and having someone like cussed out at me. Like I had like all those experiences and stuff. And so I feel like I kind of did break out of my shell on my mission. What was the, who was this guy that cussed you out? Dude, there was a couple. More than one?

Oh, yeah. more than once? Oh yeah. Could you count the times that you got cussed out on one hand? Or is it like multiple hands? I feel like it would be multiple hands. No way. Who are these people that are cussing people out?

I shouldn't laugh. That's so bad. There's one guy down on, so the street called Everett down in Massachusetts. This one guy, he'll yell at you every single time if you invite him to church. Or if you just say anything to him, if you have your white shirt on, your tie, if you put like a black name tag on, he'll yell at you. He'll literally yell at you, I promise. Bro, why are missionaries going incognito?

I feel like you guys should show up in like sick hoodies. Yeah, that's right? Nobody would know. Bro, you go in like Blitzkrieg, right? Nobody has any idea. Yeah. I know. Is that a conversation?

They're like, can we please not? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think there are some missions that it's like you just like wear regular clothes or. That's the thing. Yeah. There's missions where the missionaries do not wear the standard like the proselyte clothes. Yeah, the dress shirt, short sleeve, khakis,

helmet if you're on a bike like that's not a like there's helmet if you're on a bike what's the mission where they're wearing street clothes I'm so curious well okay in my mission we actually had reservations so like

Indian reservations in Montana there's a lot of those and so when we us sisters weren't allowed to serve there because it's just a little dangerous but the elders when they go and serve there they were able to wear like jeans and a t-shirt

because like a big like the suit and tie it's very intimidating It's just, you know, like, doesn't fit in very well. Yeah, not a good fit. So they were able to wear, like, t-shirts and stuff. But a lot of areas, like, different missions aren't even allowed to go, like, door to door or, like, talk to people about and, like, teach them. You know, like, some missions, they can only just do service, like, just help people out.

There's no proselyting, just straight service. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, why is that? Is it because of the culture they don't want? Yeah. Just like culture and different laws, too. Okay.

So it all just depends on where you're at. What type of service are you doing? Honestly, anything. Like you could, I don't know. Like, we'd be doing dishes. We'd be on a food bank. Like, we'd do any type of service we could get our hands on. So if you need help.

I get lots of stuff. If anyone needs help, you literally call up the missionaries. They will hook you up. Wait, that's kind of dope. So if there's someone, like, struggling in life right now, they could just call up like a local LDS mission and be like, could someone help me, like, They help people move all the time.

Dude, you want to help me move? Wait seriously. I packed up, I packed up like two houses, like the whole house. No way. My companion and then some other people.

You guys were put moving companies out of business. No, seriously. No, legitimately they are the best movers because actually our friends were like, no, like we'll help you move. You do not need to hire someone. Come to find out it was like members of our church.

I was like, I am not going to steal that service. Dude, that's awesome. But I remember, it was like getting settled out. Who was this that offer? Katelyn. She's like, seriously, no, my ward, they're great.

And I was like, no, don't do it. To move us last year? Oh my God. And they'll do it. It'll happily do it too. That's like the crazy part. It's like they'll do it with a smile on their face. Is that the most common is moving people?

Cleaning houses. I mean, I helped out with like branding cows and stuff in Montana. Branding cows? Mm-hmm. With that sad. Were you sad branding the cows? It was sad at first, but then my friend made a point where it's like if you don't brand the cows, then people can still them and kill them.

Oh, yeah. So it was like, that made me feel better. I was like, okay, they're just like marking their territory, I guess. Wow. It's a little tough. It is sad. Holy cow. Also, random, random question.

I've got on my notes here, you guys bought a house at 17. Can you talk to us about that? How the crap? What in the YouTube? How did you guys buy a house at 17? Yeah. So we just been doing YouTube forever and stuff. And one of the things we wanted to get into is like home DIY, real estate, something.

We've always been. I'm like big fans of, I know, property brothers. Yeah, property brothers. We watched those guys. So that's just like something we wanted to do. And opportunity came up when we were in Tennessee. Yeah, saved up all our money and then spent all our money.

And then we sold the house after. We sold the house. We did renovations to it. So like it was actually cool. Well, when we moved to Tennessee, we were in high school. We were only there for like a semester. And then we decided to switch to online. And then for when we were doing online, one of our classes like,

could do was like I don't know we figured out a way that like with the house renovations and with like our business stuff yeah we could turn it into a credit if we like do things about yeah and so we renovated a house like learned all these skills like well painting that's like our nightmare now yeah like no painting never painting again like oh we'll tile we'll do like we'll make beams we'll do whatever why paint is why is that the fear oh it's got to be an artist if you want to do painting like we just like a different like a spot like off yeah it was just too too much for us Was that hard on your brotherhood to, I mean, people always say don't renovate a house with your spouse, like, with your spouse, because it's like testing your marriage. Was that hard for you guys?

Or were you like? I mean, with him, I can yell at him. So I'm like, it was fine. We also had our dad. He's an electrician and stuff. So he taught us and stuff. That's awesome. Yeah.

So we got to learn. Yeah. There were so many skills that we got to learn in that year, year and a half. Yeah. Did you turn around for a profit? I thought that. No. You lost money on the house.

No. I think we kind of broke even. We split even. We broke even. With like the renovations, yeah. We got credit for school and then we also got to like learn all these different skills. People have to pay for credits usually. Yeah.

We did some, yeah, deals like. You learned a lot. Yeah. Yeah, that was awesome. A question I have for you, Boston, is you chose to like delay going on a mission for a period of time. Like did you, was there a time where you're like, I'm not going to do one? Or like, did you just have different plan for after high school? Yes, for sure.

So like after high school, it's like pretty common for members, members of our. faith to go on missions. And for me, I was like, I just like was not, like, I was being prayerful about it, but like was not getting a for sure answer. And I'm like, I'm not going to do it if I don't have like a for sure answer. Like, I need to know that this is right for me. So anyways, Brock started like filling out his papers to like submit for a mission and everything. And I was like, ah, this just isn't it. Like you, like you do you or whatever. And then like right before Brock was leaving on his mission, like, it was like a couple days or whatever. whatever, we were at the beauty supply, and my mom was, like, getting, like, this haircut stuff

for Brock to bring. And he turned to me, he's like, dude, are you still glad you're not going on a mission? Because, like, Brock was, like, so sad and, like, just, like, depressed, honestly. Like, it was just, like, I've never had more anxiety in my entire life. That's a scary thing to do. I was about to leave. Yeah. Because we do everything together, right? Yeah. You guys have been, like, conjoined at the hip essentially. Literally. Or, like, I'm sure there's a lot of hard parts. I think the hardest part was leaving her.

Yeah. Yeah. And you're just, you're just, you're just, you're just, you. doing something where like you're just completely away from like all of your comfort. Yeah. Yeah. It's so weird. Like I'm just going to go to Brazil to try and pick up a language. That's scary.

Live with a bunch of random dudes I've never met in my entire life. And then you're like, yeah, I'm glad I'm not doing it. I'm glad I'm not doing it after seeing all of this because like it was just a rough. It was a rough week at our house before Brock left. But that's so sad. And you have an older sister too. Did she go on one or were you the first in your family? Yeah.

First in the family. First generation. What are you most excited for with your mission? Do you know where you're going? Do you know? Yeah. Oh, you do. Yeah.

I saw the video, Matt. I haven't seen the video. Where? Oh, wait, where are you going? I'm talking about with his grandparents. Oh, yes, yes. Yeah. So, everybody knows.

Except for me, apparently. You're ready for it? Wait, what's your guest, though? What's your guess? Oh, gosh. It could be in the country. It could be like in the United States or be out of the country. Now I'm going because I feel dumb because I feel like someone told me and I just forgot.

I didn't tell you. I'm going. Right or wrong. Wrong. Is it in the country? You're right. Where are you going? I'm so excited to know.

It's Vancouver, Canada. That's cool. Oh my gosh. Dude, that's where they had the Olympic, the Winter Olympics like 10 years ago. Oh, I did not? Yeah, or maybe it was like 20 years ago. I'm old. Are you learning the language?

No, English. And I'm like so happy about that. I know there's a lot of French, right? Well, because French and I had a buddy that did California and he had to learn Spanish for California. Yeah. Because there's a lot of Spanish speaking people there. Yeah.

Uh-huh. So English and then I'll be there for like the anticipated time is 24 months. So we'll see if I hit the two-year mark. I'm here to just try it out. And you worked a corporate job for a little bit in there, too? I did for a little bit. I was climbing that corporate ladder. Not nine to five.

And you gave it up. Yeah. Well, I was doing social media and doing that at the same time. That's a lot to do. That's two full-time jobs at the same time. Yeah, uh-huh. It was fun, though. I loved it.

I was actually, it was for this company called Bettys, which is actually my mom's company. It's like zipper bedding. Our kids have them and we love that. Dude, we actually have that upstairs. Yeah. Our kids. Both of them sleep in them. We have the football one and the dinosaur one.

We figured that out yesterday. We were like, wait a second. Your mom made our kids bed. We love them. We've shared about them. That's so cool. Yeah. They can actually make their own bed and they're three years old.

Just to zip and then. Were you guys like the poster child of Betty's when you were kids? We were the ones that like made her start it. We were the OG. No way. Yeah. Why is that? It's so genius.

So with bunk beds, it's like trying to get in there and like making your bed. Our boys have bunk beds. Yeah. And it's like so hard to like go around the edges and like tuck everything in and like all the blankets. It's just such a mess in my own. It's like there needs to be a better solution. So she ended up going to it was like hobby lobby or something and like or yeah, like fabric and then like the biggest zipper that she could find. And then our grandma helps sew the first prototype. Sweet. I saw their video about this. That's hardcore. Dude, was that like the first time your family entered into entrepreneurship or had your family been doing entrepreneurship stuff for years? I mean, our dad, he started up his own, like, electrical and pool business and stuff. Oh, dope. So, like, and then our mom did hair.

And so they kind of did, like, their own type of business. Yeah. But, like, this is, like, where they created something, like, completely new. Cool. Was with Betty. I love it. They're so easy to wash, too. Yeah.

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Dot app slash legal slash podcast for full disclosures. With you being on the mission, are you, yeah, what are the rules around that? Like, fill me in. Like, were you just basically off the internet completely for two years? Or was there a way for you to take like a video or two here and there? Yeah. So like with Boston and I, there's like times where I could take videos of myself and stuff and like send it to him. But as for like social media stuff, we didn't have YouTube, TikTok, Instagram or anything like that on our phone.

We only had Facebook. And then we actually got Facebook taken away out of our mission just because I don't know. There's 18, 19 year old kids that are on missions. They're going to scroll. Facebook reels. Was there somebody that abused it? Yeah. What happened?

What did this kid do? Just like watching it. He probably was watching some reels and then not working and being focused and stuff. And so yeah, there's, I think there's a couple of kids that happened to. And so they took it out of our mission. But yeah, we still had like other social media stuff that you're doing within our mission. Do you feel like you guys are less addicted than the average like 20 something, like early 20 year old because you had to like delete everything for two years, year and a half?

or did it make it the reverse happen? Like when you got back, you're like, I'm bad. Got a bitch all this? You didn't like want your phone when you came back, right? Was that kind of like the case? Yeah, when I came home, I just, like, I didn't really want to be on my phone. It was hard posting on social media again because I was like, I don't really know what I'm doing. But I don't know.

I feel like because I was away from it for so long, I did jump right back into like being on my phone all the time, which I'm trying to be better at that. But I don't know. I feel like we do pretty good because we, I feel like we try and create more than we just consume. I feel like that's been a pretty good thing that we've all been doing. Yeah, I feel like I don't scroll reels as much as I used to. And okay, Boston, you gotta fill me in man. What's the latest with, like, are you in a relationship now?

Is that a secret? That's how we can we talk about that? Not right now. So, I know, kind of sad. But I have my mission that I'm looking forward to and then we'll see if something happens there. and then yeah Gotcha

I know there's something There's something that was posted I think where you were like Maybe in a relationship I didn't know if that was just like Allegedly Allegedly

Oh it's allegedly Yeah Oh well no He's been going on dates He's always been going on dates He's always been going on dates Yeah I think that's fun

I feel like I heard about Utah's dating culture Like you guys go on dates more than Yeah Obviously you guys were in Tennessee When we moved to Tennessee That was like the one thing Like even with like school dances

Like a lot of people Like if you ask someone to a dance, it's like almost as if like you're dating that. Like your girlfriend, boyfriend. But it's like in Utah, it's like you can just like, yeah, go on like, hey, go to this dance with me. Let's go on a date. Yeah. Uh-huh.

Yeah. So I just kind of kept that like more private. But. And okay. And Brock, fill me in on the on the suit that you wore at your wedding. Oh. I know. I saw that that video went viral.

Bro I got roasted. No. I got flamed. No. I don't even get it. Matt was trying to explain to me. I'm like, I don't see it. That's a problem.

Yeah, so, I mean, it isn't a problem, right? I don't get it. Okay, so basically I wore a suit and I had like this Fortnite print on the inside. No one's going to see the inside of your suit unless you like flash it open and stuff. I'm like, oh, this would be like super funny. Kess and I, we love playing Fortnite together. That's cute. It's kind of like what our dates consisted of when we were long distance and stuff.

So I'm like, this would be fun. And so I ended up putting Fortnite inside my suit. I posted a TikTok about it. And then people were like flaming me. They're like, ain't no way he's got four. not inside of his suit like is this kid even old enough to get married i'm like okay i guess it's a little immature but that checks out that's just fun yeah yeah you should have been like actually my parents got married at 18 so i'm like way more mature than they that was an example of something that the comments

could have gone so many different ways but it's just like whatever took hold at the beginning just took hold and then everyone just repeats the same comment yeah yeah no it's true like well you know what this is meaningful for us actually and either way it's just the inside of your suit that's funny I feel like there's also like comments too that were defending him

they were like well let the guy like be able to like do something like the girl gets all her stuff and then I got my one thing that's a good idea though to have like something fun on the inside of your I've never heard of that yeah it was cool I thought it was fun I didn't really care I was like this is cool

so my wedding I got all my groomsmen crazy socks So somebody had Hawaiian socks, somebody had pickle socks. We had just like a bunch of different fun. I think somebody had like hot dog socks. I just went to Marshalls and bought a bunch of socks. That was. Yeah.

That's so awesome. That's fun. That's really fun. It's unique. And now, okay, I know you guys really have been married for like two weeks, but okay, like more than that. But like have you guys talked about kids? Do you guys want to have kids? Do you do not even know yet?

Because you've only been married for so little. I mean, I guess you could say we don't really know yet. But we've talked about it. And right now we just want to travel the world. And just kind of enjoy our time. Yeah. Where do you guys want to travel? Bally.

Anywhere and everywhere. Like that's like the dream right now. Just because like we didn't really travel for like two years and stuff. We're like, you know, we want to go and have fun and explore. So definitely think Bali. Yeah. Bali. Yeah.

We want to go to Brazil. I want to go to Brazil. Go back. Yeah. So it would be fun. So just like really fun like cool places. Because I feel like after going to Montana and like seeing. Montana because I've been to a couple of different states but Montana was just gorgeous.

It made me realize like oh wow there's so much more out. That's so good of you guys. That's so fun. Being in your early 20s traveling the world together. Just yeah, there's just so much in store for you guys. That's super exciting. Yeah, we're excited. We love traveling.

Do you have any more questions? Should we play our game? Do you want to agree to disagree? If you guys are down, we have prepared agree to disagree for us to play. Addie, do you have the paddles? ready to go. Oh, let's go. Oh, okay. Let's go. Okay.

Guys, this is, this is big. This is our first time ever using these agree to disagree. Well, I don't, or is it just then? I think it's just then. Well, yeah, okay. Apparently it's just you guys playing agree to disagree. All right, let's go. Okay, I'll vote.

You want to vote too? Okay, I guess Abby's going to play too. No, I'm not actually. Okay, no, you should play. You should play with the first. Come on, play. All right. We're getting crazy with the first one.

Here we go. Question number one, I've tasted coffee. Is that too far? No. No, is that too far? No, I have. Both Brock and I did actually probably the same day. No way.

We're going to H.E. Double hockey sticks. No. Wait, what's the story? We were being rebellious. It looks like a good drink from Starbucks. Yeah, I did. Yeah. I've had coffee before, and it could be good.

I just like didn't really care for it though. Yeah, I don't think you'd like it. Okay, so we, I'm not going to out this person. But our friend is a member of the church, like, would ask us every single day because I drink coffee every morning. And he's just like, but like, what does it taste like? And I was like, I don't want to lead you astray. I was like, but if you smell it, it tastes like how it smells. No, it's really good.

It smells way good. It smells good. I love it. But it does not taste it. You got to put creamer in it. Yeah. But you know what? I put creamer in my sauce.

soda instead. Coffee's just another thing that I feel like we'll get hooked on because then we'll be adding all the creams and like all the shoes. I mean, when you said addicted, I was like, yeah, I mean convicted. I am addicted to coffee. Yeah. That's because every time, like, we would stay with him. I was like, crap, how am I going to get coffee right here?

Did you feel? I was like actually concerned. Did you guys, when you guys tasted coffee, did you feel instant guilt? No. I don't think so. You know, my heart. I was just like, oh, I just wanted to try it. Yeah.

It just didn't taste good. Okay. Okay. Next question. Brock and Boston have twin telepathy. Agree to disagree. Brock and Boston have twin telepathy. I'm agreeing.

Agree. Why do you guys say that? We just literally do. We've had weird experiences where we've like been talking about something and then the person would finish the sentence. Where it was. Yeah, weird. Especially probably because you're identical. You guys are probably the same fingerprint.

Is that true? No. No, our fingerprints I think are different. But like genetically like aren't. DNA is the same. Like their face ID on their phones work. Or like when we're going

through TSA airport and stuff though. Wait, shut the front door. Okay. So your face ID works on each other's phones because you guys are

identical twins. Yeah. Prove it. All right. Let's try it. I'm not looking at my phone. I'm not looking at my phone. Well, Boston

log right on in. Access granted. Wait, it says ignore your time. Yeah. Well, it's just an app. No. Let's show the camera.

Prove it. Show the camera. He's in. That's crazy. Yeah. Oh. So you do. You do have different

Yeah, yeah, I think we do. Different DNA or same DNA. Same DNA. Yeah. Crazy. But if we think of, I don't know, let's say, like a certain thing or a shape, we usually can get it right. So.

Wow. We could try it. Okay. One, think of it. Think of a fruit. One, don't think too hard. One, two, three. Orange.

Oh. Okay, wait, wait, wait, let's do something else. You come up with it. I don't know, we could do like some. What do you think? We could do shape. Okay, we'll do shape. We'll do shape.

Okay. One, two, three. Triangle. Oh, okay. This would actually so advanced. Right. Oh my gosh. What?

Okay. Okay. Let's do something else. Do it easy. Like a drink place. Three, two, one. Swig. Oh my gosh.

Okay. Maybe we just guys can't, wait, we got to come from you. Okay. You messed up. Okay. No, it was. I thought, I, I, I, I was forgetting. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Listen. Listen.

We say we say we have twin teleep. twin telepathy and we actually have rehearsed this in the past. So we're like, okay, when someone asked for a shape, we do triangle. I don't know why he chose circle. What the fuck? But then when we think of something random, we say boat. Yeah. Those are like the two things.

Or like color will say blue. Yeah. Sorry. I forgot. He went off script. He went off script. That's funny. But you guys actually do believe you have telepathy of some sort.

I think so. Well, there's been times where he'll talk about something and then literally Boston will text him about the same thing, like, a couple of minutes later. And I'm like, you were just talking about that. Or we'll, like, I'll get ready. Wear the same thing. Yeah, Brock's wearing the same thing. Like, I haven't wore this, I haven't worn this, I haven't worn this camo shirt in weeks. And then the day that Brock pulls up, I'm wearing the camo shirt. Did your mom dress you guys in the same outfits? Yeah, a little bit when we were in. But it was like, coordinating because like we had the same outfit, but it was like also a different color. So like, that's kind.

Brock was red. I was wearing blue. Yeah. That's cute. Okay. Next, next we have Kel knows a side of Brock, Boston. Oh, Kessley. I'm so sorry. Do people call you Kelsey all the time, by the way? I called you Kelsey for days, like literally having no idea. I was like interviewing a guest, Kelsey. Yeah, or Kelsey.

No, literally I get it all the time. I respond to Kelsey. So I'm just like, it's basically my name. That's probably like a huge pet peeve of yours. It's being called the wrong name. No, you're good. Okay. Okay, so we have Kessley knows a side of Brock.

Boston has never seen. Three, two, one. I can't about it. Oh, agree. Oh, I saw you change yours. Wait, I'm trying to think. I feel like. I don't actually like Boston.

Wait. I thought it's just the romantic side, I guess. Oh, okay. Yeah. Because like, yeah. Yeah. It's your brother, so I don't know. It's kind of hard if you saw that side.

All right. There we go. You fight differently once you're married. Ooh. Yeah, like you have different. fights once you're married. I guess it's just for you guys. Yeah, you're not married.

Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like we do. Just because like we have to hash things out, communicate. We can't just like go to bad and mad at each other and stuff. Yeah. Mistakes are higher.

Yeah. Did you guys have? Was there ever like a like a not good alteration you guys? No. Uh-uh. No. I think everything's been pretty good. Like we haven't had anything crazy.

Most of our arguments, she would be like kind of getting mad. And then I would yell like I'm mad. like actually not mad and then we just like laugh about it. Rock is always fake mad too. Yeah. He always fakes mad. Yeah. I'll call him.

I'll call him and then instead of like saying like hello or like, I'm like, what do you need? Yeah. Just like something like that. And I'm like, wait, what's going on? Like are you okay? But yeah. Yeah. Let me just laugh about it.

I know. I feel like I do that to you kind of a little bit, you know? Yeah. So you rage bait is what you're saying. Yeah. He rage baits a lot. Wow. Crazy.

That's fun. I must keep your marriage fun though if you're like rage bait. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think we've been mad each other, but like, we don't ever get mad, mad, yeah. I'm coming up with this one on the spot, but I'm going to read it like I'm reading it off the sheet. Our twin relationship isn't the same now that one of us is married. Oh, disagree.

Yeah, I feel like it's like the same. Yeah. But we just don't live at the same house together anymore. So it's different then. Yeah. Okay. Okay. No, but there are a relationship.

But like, relationships, like normal. Yeah. That's sad. I mean, like, it, you know, I, I'm still close with my brothers, but there is, is a huge change. Like when you, when you get married, like there's just so, gosh, we're fundamentally different people. And even in our own marriage, like we've been, this summer will be seven years married and we are so different than how we started off. That's awesome. You know? But I feel your relationship can stay the same when you, like, both people change. Yeah, but like it

changes. And I think it's a good thing, though. Yeah. So maybe if it hasn't, like, maybe, and maybe I'm wrong, maybe it'll never change for you guys, but I feel like it will. And I feel like it'll be, it'll be interesting for you to see how that it's. evolves. Yeah. Yeah, I'm curious to see like what's going to happen after Boston goes out on his mission and then when he gets married and stuff like how that will kind of pan out. That would be crazy. Double dates then. You ask this question because I feel weird reading that one. No, don't do it. What? Don't do it. No, don't do it. Who wrote these? What? Our producer, she said the wedding night isn't what it's cracked up to be. Don't do it all. If that's too much, you guys don't have to answer that.

We can cut that out. And we said that's going on. some people hype it up like oh it's crazy but it's like it's just chill like yeah what would you guys say about it great I love how you turn that around on us um no I would I would actually say agree what is it wait what's the question like people overhyped like it's it's it's cracked up wait it is I would I would say agree I said the wedding night isn't what it's cracked up to be and I would say I would say agree and you say oh you say disagree I thought had a great time so free oh it's a great time too I just feel like like your entire life Growing up, you're like, wow, and just like, this will be the most crazy.

Like, and it's amazing. It was crazy for me. Okay. My memory is fading. I don't know. And then final agreed to disagree question we have is, wow, we're really setting it here. Waiting until marriage is totally worth it. Oh, yeah, I agree.

Yeah. Agree. Oh, that's sweet. Why do you guys say that? I would say, it's like, just like it's such a special moment where you can have with your spouse and stuff. I don't think, yeah. I think it's just, it's like a way to connect that's only you two together. Yeah, I, I, something that helped me, like, you know, to save myself was just knowing that, like, I, that's, like, the best gift I could give my husband is, you know, like a clean and pure body.

And I would hope he did the same. But I, I think, I agree. I think it's a very special thing. Yeah. It's a connection, like, that you won't have anywhere else with anyone else, you know? got married young too 21 and 20 when we got married so it's the best um and your future is bright and so and so is yours Boston oh thank you and so excited for you and and you're gonna come back saying like hey you're gonna be like yeah yeah well you guys this was so much fun

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