The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Finding out we're pregnant with baby no. 3 & telling our family

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

We’re pregnant with baby no.3!!! In this episode, we talk about the pregnancy scare before trying, the moment we found out, and how we told our families. We also open up about fears of miscarriage, how this pregnancy feels different, and the reality of being in the first trimester while raising toddlers. This episode with Hiya, Zocdoc & Audible. Hiya: Go to https://hiyahealth.com/UNPLANNED and receive 50% off your first order. Zocdoc: Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to https://Zocdoc.com/UNPLANNED to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. Audible: Your first great love story is free when you sign up for a free 30-day trial at https://audible.com/unplanned Chapters: 00:00 - WE’RE PREGNANT 02:40 - Experiencing a pregnancy scare 07:05 - Trying for baby #3 13:40 - Finding out we're pregnant with baby #3 18:53 - Telling my parents we're pregnant 24:05 - My fear of miscarriage 28:21 - I thought I lost the baby 35:33 - Why my 3rd pregnancy is different 41:31 - Why I don't want to wait to find out the gender 42:31 - Surprising my parents with baby #3 46:38 - The reality of being in the first trimester with toddlers 47:44 - When a pregnancy craving hits you mid podcast 52:28 - Deciding on our third babies name Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We're having baby number three. We're pregnant! Woo! Crazy. I know. Also not. I feel like this experience versus like finding out we were pregnant with our second is literally the complete opposite side of the coin.

Oh, yeah. We were genuinely so stoked when we read the positive pregnancy test. Yeah. It was just like pure joy. Like we love our second child. I feel like we've said this a million times. but I do know that a lot of you out there can relate. Like having an unplanned pregnancy is like every baby is a blessing and we love him endlessly.

We cannot imagine our lives without our second. But it's a totally different experience in early pregnancy, like first finding out when you're like expecting it, planning for it, like looking forward to it and then just like completely feeling like it got the rug swipe from under you. How did you convince me to do this? That's a you question because I did say I was like you have to be fully on board. As much as like I'm on board, you also need to be on board for obvious reasons. You're the father of the child. I want you to also be like ready for it, excited for it even. So I don't know.

What got me to change your mind? No, I think I honestly think it goes back to the holidays. We were with family around Christmas, Thanksgiving, you know, that whole holiday season. And I was just looking around and realizing how valuable family is. And even though the newborn stage can be tough, I was. like, wait a minute, we could potentially have like this really big, lively, fun, joyful family. And that was kind of like, I think the first time that I actually genuinely was thinking about trying for a third.

I mean, that's when the conversation started. Yeah. And I remember that, like, Thanksgiving and Christmas time last year. And the conversation started. And then we just kept talking about it for months and months. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think I, I want to say I brought it up to you at the start of the year. Like, hey, what do you think about this?

And then, like, a week later, you got your idea. We did have a pregnancy scare. Remember that. Yeah, because we thought that there was maybe something still in my system before I got it removed because we knew that we were being very careful after we had it removed. But I was shocked. Like, I told you before we took that test, this was back in like, what, February, March, I forget. But I told you before we took the test, hey, no matter what, this is going to be a great thing.

But after we saw the negative, like it said negative, we were like, okay. Well, because I didn't want another unplanned one. Yeah, yeah. And that would have been, you didn't describe it very well. For those wondering, like my period was late after getting my IUD removed because my hormones were just like still readjusting. But in our like paranoid brains, we thought that because we had intercourse the day before I got my IUD removed that there was a chance that something was like in my system and it like worked its way and like which would have been fine and great and totally fine. But we would have also been surprised and caught with a. our pants down in a way. Which, by the way, we have friends that that happened to. They, they had

the relations literally the day before she got the IUD out and boom, they got pregnant. That wasn't our story though. So we were just paranoid that it could have happened because we knew of people that had happened to. But no, we were very careful. The entire time, we had no ID and were like just still talking about it. I thought it was so funny though because, I mean, I know you and your your girlfriends at the gym, like you guys, you know, you're always talking. You're always chatting. Just act like we're just friends at the gym. We are friends. Well, that's where you met your friends.

But, like, you know, you go to the park with the kids, you ladies are chatting. And, like, every time we'd hang out with the husbands and everyone together, it was so random. I don't know how this happened. But people would come up to me and say, hey, Matt, when are you guys, when are you going for the third? I heard, I heard you guys are talking about that. Like, that was something that was brought up. And I have no idea what you're talking about.

I have no idea what you're talking about. You have no idea what you're talking about? Oh, my gosh. but seriously though it is crazy how like two years ago abby and i truly were parenting on expert mode like you know if you ever play a video game and you can choose like the level we were on the difficulty it felt it felt like it just i i just i was calling my parents all the time just saying thank you so much for doing this for me because i have i had no idea how hard this was yeah because you and your brother were only like 18 months apart yeah we were close to and something shifted though

like I think when our son started going to the bathroom on his own, our three-year-old, I'm like, I feel like we're parenting on easy mode. Like, we're changing half the diapers we used to, we used to change. Yeah. Like, he can practically get himself dressed now. And then when our kids play, like, they, they just play together. Like, I don't have to constantly entertain them 24-7, you know? It's, like, I can just play with them when I want to play with them and it's genuinely fun. I don't have to, like, do literally every single little thing for them just to make sure that they're cared for, you know? And so kind of going from expert mode to easy mode was like, dude, let's send it. So Abby, you can fill in the details here, but essentially you told me I want to get pregnant

basically in the summertime. That way I have this baby before the summer of 2026. Well, yeah, I was like it's either like around these months or a year from now because I have been very big pregnant in the summer twice. Like we had a July baby and an August baby. And in Arizona, being like full term pregnant in the heat of July and August, it's just, it's very unpleasant. It's literally 114 degrees outside right now, you guys. And yesterday it was 113, 115.

I forget what the temperature was yesterday. Yeah. And we also like to try to get away when it's like that hot if we can. And so that's what we did this year. We were traveling a lot. And I'm like, we can't do that if we're going to be having a baby, which just happened to us two summers, not this past summer or the summer before that. but the one two before that those were like kind of miserable for me yeah so i was like it's either june or it's like literally next spring i was taking a look at abby's app that she has to track her period

it's called clue she's had it since she was in high school and i noticed yeah it's not like a fertility tracker not a fertility tracker but it does give you a general guideline of like when the fertile window is and also is it fertile or fertile i actually don't know if could someone let us know in the comments, please? I don't know why you always say fertile. You know what? I probably have mispronounced that my entire life. It's fine.

No, you might be right now. Fertile? I just want to check. I think fertile is the correct way. Let's hear the translation. Fertile. Wow. Rhymed with turtle.

I think you probably said fertile or entire. I think I've always said fertile. Yeah, I never said anything. But now I was like, a lot of people might hear you say fertile and I want to just step in here. Everyone's going to go make fun of me now. It's okay. Hey, feel free. No, just think about turtle, but fertile.

I'm going to keep saying fertile. Okay, fine. We all know what you mean. Anyway, that window was June 6th through 12th and... Wow, you're giving them the data. Yeah, I literally have the date written down right here. I've got the exact date. And let me just tell you guys, that was probably the best week of my entire life. Okay.

I'm serious. Like, I felt like a king and it just felt like with the first two, why are you... Way that you just so genuinely said that was the best week of my entire life. It was great. It was a really great. week and I think it was just like we both knew what we were doing and we both were on like a mission and we were you know fully aligned in that it just felt like I'm so in love yeah we just felt so in love honestly we just felt so in love how am I like that all the time I felt like it that week

for sure like it just was so it was so good that week happened and then I don't know what the timeline is between like after that and like when you find out I think there's like about two weeks where you're kind of just like what do we do here and I feel like I feel like remind me was I like I felt like I was having some symptoms early on but you never know if you're just like imagining them because they're also very similar to period symptoms and I want to say that you had one of the first symptoms that you had last time you're pregnant which was aversions to like onion and aversions to just different foods and you mentioned that to me and I'm like babe I think I think you're pregnant I don't remember that I want to say while we were in Disneyland like I

want to say there was some smell that was just like giving you the ick oh yeah you might have been right about that what was it was it i feel like it's always onion was it onion was it maybe was it was a certain food that you like didn't like whatever was it wasn't like strong enough to make me like necessarily feel confident that that i was pregnant but also i was like i don't like playing games of like taking pregnancy tests like i i just want to wait until like basically the day of my miss period because I just don't want to ever just be staring at a test thing like wondering if there's a line or like just driving myself crazy so we're just like waiting it out and I don't think I had any strong symptoms before we took a test did we did I have any okay maybe the smell thing

I think it was the smell I want to say I noticed your boobs getting a little bit bigger I want to say that like I think I noticed some slight changes Really? That early on? I want to say I did. In my soul, though, in my spirit, I did know that I was pregnant. Like, I just felt really, like I felt like I was. And so, I think it was one day before my periods when we took the test. Yeah.

And I think it was, like, kind of you that were like, I was just, like, feeling nervous about it and, like, kind of jittery. Like, I just want to know. But then also I'm like, I feel like I should wait until the day of the misperiod. Like, you're just kind of, like, going back and forth. And then you're finally, like, we were just having such a good day and we're like, let's just do it. And so, well, you kind of were like, let's just take it. Yeah. And that day was June 24th at 3.32 p.m.

I literally have it written down exactly than it was. Yeah. Yeah, because I think we're like, we can get away for just a minute and just like, just see. And yeah, I was pretty confident that I was at that point. Yeah. And you were too? Oh, so confident. I would have been really sad.

Really? Yeah, probably. Probably. I think I told you. I think I, I think I. I had a feeling that that would probably be how you'd react now that I'm thinking about this. Because like in my head, if that wouldn't have been the one, I'd have been like, oh, next time for sure. Like, I don't know.

Totally. I would have thought that too, but then I guess there's still like a little disappointment. Yeah. Sometimes in life, I just, I tend to have like the glass half full mentality of like everything's going to work out. Everything's going to be okay. Everything's going to be good. So if that wouldn't have been the positive one, I just like, for whatever reason knew that it was going to. be positive the next month.

But yeah, I remember telling you, though, hey, if this isn't the one, it's okay. And we'll get them next time. And I love you and I care about you. And, yeah, and we took it and it said pregnant. It's just like people, you can't anticipate how emotional this process is going to be until you're going through it.

But like, it's just always, maybe not for every woman, but for most women that I talk to, like it is just such an emotional process Because it's just like, I don't know, there's just so much tied up in it. It feels like the stakes are so high. Like you're like, I'm either finding out that I have our child, like, growing right now inside me that we're going to meet someday. Or it's just like, it's not happening. And then like, why is it not happening or, you know, all these other things.

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I just remember being so just genuinely excited and, well, okay, I also want to say I wanted to take the test together. Yeah. Because both times I took them independently. That's right. Wait, I didn't realize that. Yeah. You're right.

So that, I didn't even. put that together so that was the first time. And I wanted you to look at the test first. Yes. Because I just was like this would be just like so fun and different than what we've done in the past because then like you get to tell me obviously one second later but I don't know why it was just kind of fun that you got to read the test first. Why is that just registering right now that the first two you did by yourself? Yeah we did that together. That's so cool. Yeah. I wanted you there because it just made me feel calmer and like also like this time like this time around like we knew it's not like as you know mysterious as the first time or as like shocking as our second time was like it just felt really calm

and like meant to be and right and I just wanted you to be there during it and I also wanted you to be like about as equally a part of it as you could be by being the first to read the test and obviously you told me right away you're like you're pregnant or something like that what you yeah I probably I don't remember what I said but I was I was excited because leading up to this we kept while we were trying we kept asking Griffin Griffin do you want a brother or a sister And every single time without fail, Griffin has told us a sister. I know. Every single time.

And I don't know why he, like, why specifically he decided that. Like, I know our youngest, Augie, is always drawn to older girls. He always wants to hang out with, there's like an eight-year-old or nine-year-old girl. He just wants to, like, for them to be his, like, mother him. Yeah, honestly, be like the mother to him. Or he's also kind of a flirt, too. Like, anytime he sees older girls, so always just like smiling. interact with them. But yeah, Griffin's been telling the sister and that was kind of fun to

then see that test. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, we don't know if it's a boy or girl yet. We'll go into that later. We don't. Yeah, we'll get into that later. But I'm trying to think who were the first people that we told. Do you remember who the first person was? It wasn't my parents because we wanted to tell them in person. Well, I told my trainer at the gym because I didn't want to do anything. That's right. I think that was one of, that was definitely one of the first. Yeah, I told her like the next day because I just didn't want to do anything that was unsafe yeah which I mean obviously that early on there's not many like modifications you need to do totally but um yeah I did notice like the first big change I noticed in like my body was my heart rate immediately went up and I felt that

at the gym like my heart rate was already starting to just like climb and climb and climb and so I just want that's why I wanted to tell her because I was like I just want to make sure that like I'm doing everything safe and healthy for the baby. Like that's obviously my first priority by far. And so I just wanted her to know. I just have eyes on it because they are really well trained until I know what to do for like

activity that's safe during each stage of pregnancy and even postpartum. So I was like, I just want her to know so I like told her just like quietly and then remember this what? I was hanging out like on a mommy like toddler play date and like

two of my like closest friend They like knew that, they knew that there was a chance that I was pregnant. Oh, because did you tell them that we were trying? I told them, yeah. Okay. And so then they just, like, asked me. I just didn't say anything. And then they just, like, looked at me.

And then they both started crying because they knew, like, how much, like, we had been talking about this and, like, trying to decide what to do or, like, when's the right time. And so they were just, like, so stoked for me, which was really fun. That's really sweet. It was really sweet. But I was like, oh, I kind of spilled the beans. twice now like I got to keep it in so then who else do we tell well I think since you had told them that night we got together with our friends we did a game night oh with their husbands

with your girlfriends and their husbands and so I was pretending to get a picture with my friends Bennett and Maverick and while we were taking the picture I said say Abby's pregnant and then they freaked out they freaked out they freaked out they lost it they were crying they were so emotional no they were all of our friends have been so high before It was really sweet. They've been really happy. But at that point, we were, like, waiting for this shirt to come in. Because it was, like, our big plan to tell my parents with this shirt, we'll put our second child in it.

And it says middle child energy, which we've always joked that, like, Augie makes perfect sense when you think of that, when you realize that he's just a middle child. Yeah. And so it's just, like, a joke and lighthearted, but we're like, we need that shirt to come in. So they were waiting for that to arrive in the mail. And I think it was, like, coming, like, a week later after we found out, like, not too long. And so, like, the day that it came, I was like, we have to tell them right away. And so I was like, hey, mom, dad, come over here. You have to see what, I think I got this, when I say, I got this really funny thing for the kids or something.

Yeah, you got to check out this shirt. They, like, opened the Amazon package. And they're like, what? No way. My mom acted like she knew. Yeah. I think with her, it was one of those things where, do you think they were onto us? Or is it just the fact that it's the third?

They're not as shocked. Like with the first, they were very shocked, but by the time you're going for a third. Maybe that's it. Yeah. We use that church. I mean, they're very happy and excited, but I think that it's just like less shocking each time because it's like we've already like started our family. They know that that's like the most important thing to us. Yeah.

And so, yeah. And then same thing. We, I think a couple of days later, went to our friend's house and my brother and sister-in-law were there and we still hadn't told them. So we're like, what if we just tell them all at the same time? and have Augie walk in in his middle child energy shirt and see who the first person is to figure it out. So we head inside their house for this birthday dinner. The only reason they thought something of it

is because you were recording. Yeah, so I was like, why are you recording? Yeah, Caleb looked at me like, why the frick are you vlogging right now? Because like I, I used to vlog pretty much every day when we lived in Hawaii, but recently. Like we never really vlog like those moments anymore. Yeah, I don't really like vlog that much anymore.

So he's like, what's going on? And he looks at Augie's shirt and he's like, oh my gosh, like Abby's pregnant. Abby's pregnant and he's freaking out. And they're like, what? how do you know like it what and they eventually all see augy's shirt and that's when our friend goes i'm pregnant too and so then there everyone's like oh my god i knew that there was a i honestly before we walked in there i was like i bet she's pregnant too but i didn't say it because i was

like i don't know i was just i was just speculating and the fun thing too is like our sister-in-law is pregnant so all the women in this house are now pregnant at the same time together and everyone's freaking out I know. It's so, so fun. I actually have so many friends that are pregnant. Obviously, both my sister-in-laws are pregnant, but I almost like consider them just like they're in a whole different tier of their own. I actually want to be super aware of like them having their moment, you know, like having their babies and like we celebrate them to the fullest. And like that's really important to me. But then also it's just so special that we're going to have all the babies close together because that's just fun. And it's great. Like I feel like they have just a stronger bond when they're really close. There's a really special bond. and if there is an age gap, but also, like, I love that they're going to be in the same activities together, in the same stage of life together. Yeah. It's just really fun.

And it's also just really fun for me, like community-wise, to raise my kids at the same time as them, like, alongside them. And then you can help, like, ask questions, like, how many bottles are they taking a day or, like, things like that? You just feel like you can just, you're on par. Because even now, I feel so, like, we have a two-year-old. I feel so removed from that stage. Like, when you're walking along,

side of someone with like babies that are very close in age, you feel just like, I don't know, there's just a bond and there's just a community element there that's really, really special. A lot of our friends that are pregnant, you guys are probably not aware of it because a lot of them are like not social media people that you guys would know. They're just our friends that we've met in our community at the gym, you know, neighbors. There's like this whole life that we have that exists offline. Even though we do share a lot on here, there's like a lot that we don't share online so it's it's a lot of those people and it's it's so much fun that we get to go through that and experience that um with them because you guys are all going to have newborns at

the same exact time i can literally think of seven off the top of my head that are pregnant but i think there's more oh my gosh seven close friends that are pregnant and in addition to that we have both of our sister-in-laws who are pregnant so it's like all the sister-in-laws and our family are pregnant at the same time which is amazing that's so much fun but they're like about to have their baby so i know so we'll have we'll let them get their bearings and then we'll just have. Wait, you both, you guys need to do another sister-in-law episode of the three of you. I was thinking that. That would be fun. Do you think you should do it like before or after they deliver? Well, we really got a hurry because Addy's 39 weeks tomorrow.

39 weeks tomorrow? Yes. Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's going to be. I feel like we should just wait to let her get settled. Yeah, she's like in the thinking of her right now. I think we'll make an entire episode about this. And you guys can probably submit questions to ask us about the first trimester. But it hasn't been easy for Abby. She's been She's been very nauseous, but you haven't thrown up yet, right? You haven't thrown up somehow. Honestly, it was kind of eerie for me. Obviously, like, yes, I've been nauseous, but you saying it's been really tough. I'm like, so I've been pregnant three times.

This pregnancy is more different than the other two were in the sense that I haven't thrown up. I also haven't been like as nauseous, as craving, as aversion-y, like haven't had that as emotional. Like, I haven't had the peaks of those. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like everything has just been so much more mild. Yeah. And the only thing that's been way more is I've been way more tired. So, I don't know.

I feel like some people are like, well, then that means you might be having a girl because my other two are boys. And I'm like, I don't know about that because I have so many friends that have had the same gender, but their pregnancies were just drastically different both times. Yeah. And, like, even your mom, she had all boys. And she was like, I thought for sure my third was a girl. because I felt so different.

And so that's not, like, convincing me that, like, it's different, but it's just been, it's just been different, like, to have experience things differently. And honestly gave me, like, paranoia. Yeah. Like, anxiety, fear was coming in because I never did, like, a pregnancy confirmation appointment. We were just traveling a lot. And my doctor actually said it wasn't necessary. They're like, unless you have any, like, concerns and you can just wait until you're,

like, nine, 10 week appointment. Yeah. I got to, like, over seven weeks and I was still not having. strong symptoms, I started get really freaked out, honestly. I was like, I really hope something, like, everything's okay to the point where I've never done this with either one of my pregnancies, but I was like, I just like kept taking pregnancy tests because I was like, even though I was like over seven weeks, like I was like, why do I just not feel pregnant? I think I asked you every day, like, do you think I'm pregnant? And you're like, yes. Yes. Well, I saw, I mean, you weren't having

quite the nausea that you had in the past. Yeah. But I noticed that your body was changing. I noticed that your appetite, I think, had increased, and we had the positive pregnancy test. We had, you know, something that's over 99.9% accurate, yeah, you had no period. And you were really, really worried about miscarriage. I just felt so different. I went and got some HCG tests because apparently those are what you can use to look at your HCG levels. And let me tell you, taking those tests did not make me feel any less worried. I have talked about Zoc Doc so much that my sister-in-law told me today that she used it to schedule her dentist appointment.

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it doesn't like worrying about it does not change the outcome so i've always thought just take one pregnancy test and it's positive like you know but then stop stop testing but this point i was like letting my worries get the best of me so i'm taking these hcg tests and they were all coming out positive but the line was kind of faint like i would say it was even fainter than four weeks pregnant and so that made my worry so much greater i was really really worried at this point i was trying to stay calm, but I was just, like, texting my friends and, like, trying to figure out what this could mean. I'm Googling. I'm, like, on rabbit holes, like, online. And then something online said to, like, it says something about this, like, hook effect that can happen, like,

with your HCG levels. I'm getting so in the weeds, but the people that know what I'm talking about, know what I'm talking about. So, like, there comes a point, I guess, where your HCG levels are, get so high that, like, those strip tests don't read. Don't even show a line. You don't even see the line anymore. The lines really faint. And so they were saying, you can know that this is happening if you dilute your urine and then take the test and if it's darker. And so, I mean, this is all TMI, but this whole process is, we're transparent here.

I like dipped the strip into the toilet pool, like with all the water in it. And the line was very, very dark. Yeah. And so that gave me some peace of mind, but I was still concerned. So we called up a pregnancy center on the island that. Yeah, because you're in Hawaii at this point. They, I guess, just do, you know, these tests and they do ultrasounds for women for free. It's one of those non-for-profit pregnancy centers.

And so we booked an appointment, but then when it came time for our appointment, we ended up finding out that their ultrasound machine was, oh, you didn't know it was the tech. The tech was out for like a couple weeks. Yes. And so we weren't able to get an ultrasound, which is what Abby wanted to just make sure that baby was okay. Yeah. And so we ended up not going to the appointment because all they could do is give Abby another pregnancy test, which she'd already taken those and they keep coming back positive.

And I just knew at this point, I was like, my rational side of my brain was like, you are really like letting these fears become so much greater than they need to be. But then also there's that like mama bear side of you that's like, I just want to make sure my baby's okay. That's like panicking. And so, yeah. I mean, that was like a weird tail spend time because I was like, Abby, like I almost didn't want to tell my friends like I was worried about this. because I was like, I know I'm being too paranoid, but like, you know, you just hear so many things and it is such a like fragile time, like, you know, in pregnancy. So I just like try to continue to stay calm.

And then honestly, it was like a few days later when I was like, we need Taco Bell right now or we need McDonald's, which has always been like my early pregnancy cravings is just fast food. And I say pregnancy cravings lightly because it's really not a craving as much as it's an aversion to literally every other food except for like a Taco Bell Casidia or like a McDonald's McDubble, which I never eat those outside of pregnancy. But sometimes that's like all that sounds good. That's always been like my early craving.

I keep seeing these videos that are like something they don't tell you about the first trimester of pregnancy is that anything you cook at home tastes terrible. It's true. I've had that both times. I'm kind of getting out of that now, obviously. Taco Bell was our go-to. Yeah, remember that night I was like trying to get down one cassidia. like, please, because you said my appetite had gone up, but I feel like I wasn't really

eating a ton at that point because nothing was really sounding good. Maybe at first, like maybe, I mean, yeah, maybe at first. You didn't have any of those aversions or nausea initially, so I think you were worried our friend that told us they were pregnant at the same time as us. They were also confused why they weren't having any nausea. Maybe it's something to do with a third because it's her third as well. Your body just starts to get used to it. But then a couple weeks later, you guys both were like, whoa, this is not fun.

Yeah, I will also say this was the first pregnancy I've ever taken unisome and B6, which is like not a prescription, uh, nausea relief, but it's like a commonly used way to remedy nausea during like early pregnancy. And so that's also surely why I wasn't experiencing as, like I think it really does work. I obviously am still nauseous, but it's not like what it has been the other times. Maybe that's partially why you've been more tired too because I know the unisome does knock you out. I'm actually thinking about stopping taking that because I am so freaking tired and I slept like 10 hours last night. Is it better though than being nauseous? Like would you choose being tired over not being nauseous? I would choose being tired over being nauseous for sure.

But today as I was driving, I literally felt like it was like kind of not safe. Yeah. Like I was kind of like, do I need to pull over and like slap myself? Like you're a little, you're a little lady. Like, you know, there's those. Well, that's why I usually take half. Those over the counter drugs affect you more than someone like me because I'm twice your side. You know, like it is crazy.

I think one time, well, actually, no, one time Abby rear-ended her parents' car because she took it, taken a unisome or something the night before. No, I took a cold, nighttime cold aid. And it was like you were on drugs, like, leaving the house. And you, and you said you could hear the beeping of our car. I heard the beeping. It just like literally wasn't registering in my brain. Like the car is beeping because you were literally about to hit another vehicle.

And you just kept driving. I mean, they weren't in the car. They were, it was, I literally hit a parked car. that was not my finest moment i think we really kind of got the gist of it all yeah my main symptom is i would say rest changes definitely swell and get very very tender that's been my main symptom with my other two pregnancies as well some people don't have any changes in that area it's like my body's first response they're like we need to do this right now we got to triple the size And, too, like, you already, you have the cutest little bump right now.

Because I think your body is just like in, it's like it's go time. That's what they say. It's game time. They say with like, like more pregnancies you've had, the sooner your bump appears. Yeah. You think that's been the case of me? Super teeny, super tiny, but I love it. Like it's so, it's just like a little tiny little pooch and there's a little strawberry-sized baby in there right now.

I know. It does say strawberry. Yeah. In a couple days it says lime. A lime. I don't know that. It feels a little bit dramatic. Yeah.

Sometimes I think these apps are a little bit generous. What do you mean? Like, I don't really believe that it's that. But there's a lime-sized baby inside your belly. Yeah, but it's just, like, cute to have a fruit you can always compare it to. Yeah. I'm sure they're somewhat accurate. You don't be really cute as if we show the fruit, like, those fruits to our boys to help them understand that the baby's going in your belly.

Because Griffin's been giving Abby kisses on her belly. He's been saying, like, didn't he say, like, I like, I love. love you to the baby or something or he just well every night we'll sit with griffin and we'll like say like something say something you're grateful for yeah he says i'm grateful for the he said i'm grateful for the baby you was sweet because i think you've said that some nights and said then he said it but it was still really sweet that he said on his own he tries he you know copies me sometimes i wonder if my bump is actually baby or if i'm just like it's a result of being so constipated no be constipated yeah and like bloated i didn't realize that you were i know you had like one

day where you were feeling you were feeling constipation i didn't realize the conservation was like a daily thing dude i used to go number two every day oh yeah you're right you told me you you had like five days of i'm like once or twice a week now wow i didn't realize that i thought that was a one time thing could you told me that you went five days without going oh yeah that keeps happening we need to get you on some five or one bars i used to eat those when i was in high school i could not get off the toilet man those are why are you eating those in high school i think my mom was buying them from Costco and they just tasted really good. Well, here's the other thing.

It's a double whammy because I've been only eating carbs and like no fruits or vegetables, which is like the fiber I need. Oh yeah. But then also the pregnancy and also like I've heard that prenatals can also constipate you. I don't know, but we don't need to dwell on that, but that's just another

unflattering thing. Also, let me just tell you bumps get less cute than more pregnancies you have. I disagree. I think you're really cute. Really? Because I just feel like I have like I already have this like stretched out belly skin that's not as like firm and like there's like stretch marks on it now and stuff. I think you look really cute. I think no seriously like every time I look at you, I'm like holy cow. It's just it's beautiful what's happening. Like you growing a baby and just seeing the way that your body is changing to accommodate that baby is it's really cool.

That's really sweet. It's special. Very special. I wanted to say this that like I think the reason I also was having like those nerves but also the piece before we like took the test to find out about baby number three is that I'm like actually going to get emotional saying this is that now like obviously the first time is so exciting but now we know how much joy and purpose another little blessing brings us like yeah and we also just know I mean we just now we know the just the depth of how great it is to like be given the responsibility to parent another. child that it almost feels like seeing that positive test like now a third time is just it's just the impact is even deeper yeah wouldn't you agree oh 100% like there's not this like jittery

excitement but there's just this deep anticipation like and just it it I feel different seeing that positive test this time around but I feel like it's even more joyful even more exciting because I just know how much I'm going to love this little baby. There's been a viral clip going around from the actor that plays Saul and better call Saul. And in this podcast, he says that he is jealous of people that still. He was asked. He was like, who are you jealous of right now? Yeah, somebody asked him who he's jealous of. And he said that he's jealous of people that still have little kids in the house. And it just kind of hit me like how special this time really is because it doesn't last forever it's the most cliche thing you could freaking say is you know they grow up

so fast but it's true and so you know having another baby on the way it's so exciting because we know that we get to do everything we're doing right now all over again and we just get to add them to like this puzzle of our family and like oh it's just like you're just it feels like your heart expands even greater and uh i just think about i can't even describe ride like it's just a it's just your heart is literally ripping open because it's growing bigger to just fit all your little precious blessings uh it's so mushy gushy but it's literally so true that's exactly how i feel that like i don't feel the same but i feel even more excited this time around like now i just i just i know how awesome it is i know how incredible being given this blessing of

this responsibility is and so yeah and then also leading into that like Like, I can say I genuinely have no gender preference for this child. Like, I would not experience, I'm not saying anyone that experiences gender disappointment. Like, I think that's totally valid. I don't think that they're a bad parent. I don't think any, there's no judgment on that. But from the place that I'm at, I literally feel completely neutral. It's been on my mind recently as I've been listening to a romance audiobook.

The type of people that like romance are generally women, I would say. Yeah, yeah. But then also, like, is it? women in relationships, or is it women that are single that like it more? Or is it women that are like in lonely relationships or good relationships? I don't know. I feel like across the board, women just love romance. Here's the thing. I wonder, do more women or men listen to audiobooks in general? Because like my brother and I will listen to audiobooks while we're working out or doing some sort of physical activity. But your mom is the one that introduced me to Audible. So I don't

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And it's just so easy to picture a third little boy. coming alongside like I have a very clear image of what that would look like yeah I'm in the same boat as you I really don't have a preference I partially want a girl for you because I think you would love to have your little girl I know yesterday we were somewhere where there were some kids oh we went to an ice cream shop our friends just opened up an ice cream shop and they came in their little leotards and you your heart just like melted because you thought back to when you were a little girl going to dance class and I think that'd be fun right like I also took ballet like I could literally teach our daughter how to do pirouettes and, you know, foetes, my foettes suck. But like, you know, or like switch

leaps. Like I, I grew up taking dance and like, who knows if Griffin and Augie are going to want to do any dance. But like, it's, it would be fun to have a little girl. And there's so much fun that to be had there. Yeah. I don't, I just don't have an image for what that would look like, you know, so then I'm like, why does it feel kind of intimidating to have a girl? I think it's because we're just so, we're so used to the boy world, but it would be like such a new and exciting thing yeah we have been throwing around the idea of waiting till the actual birth to find out the gender but i quite honestly don't think that we would be able to do that like i think one of us would just have to find out you know yeah well you were like we've never done um we've just always

opted out of genetic testing like the early blood testing but then i feel like you it's bothered you that we could know right now yeah we honestly could i kind of why do i want to know like why do i more antsy than I would have thought why do I want to know for myself you can find out and then like we just don't tell anybody and we just know ourselves no no no I like to find out at like 20 weeks okay I would be down to waiting till birth but I also think like for Griffin and Augie it's easier for them to like they already know like our niece hasn't been born yet but they know that her name is briel and they know that she's coming and that she's a little girl and like her name is briel and I just feel like that helps them have like an image of like what to expect because

I feel like pregnancy can be so, like, elusive to little kids, especially at this young toddler age that I feel like if we were able to be like, you're going to have another brother or a sister and they're going to be, we're going to call them this. Like, they're in here. I feel like it just helps them wrap their mind around the transition a little bit more. Obviously, it's not necessary. But I do think it's easier for them to kind of like enter that transition knowing if it's a brother or sister and what their name is and like kind of picture it more. It gives them, It makes them feel more human. I know my dad would love to have a granddaughter.

I think he was hoping that one of me and my brothers were going to be a girl. No, he did. He was really hoping one of you guys was going to be a girl. That didn't happen. But telling my parents was fun. My parents actually had no idea. They were shocked. I had been pretty open about being content with two because I was.

Like I'm so happy with two. Yeah, yeah. And they kind of thought that we might be done. And so when we shared with them, we were pregnant, they could not believe it. they live in st louis so we flew all the way from phoenix to st louis to tell them and it worked out because i have a lot of family in st louis that we were able to tell while you're there like my my grandma my aunt my grandma yeah abby's grandma your cousin oh yeah my yeah so there there was just a lot of people to tell we also just wanted to tell all of our family just i think that's just a

respectful thing to do before you like share online yeah it was it was fun too because griffin actually shared the news with my parents. He told them that there's a baby in Abby's belly. And they were like, wait, did I just hear what I thought he said? We told him to do it. Yeah, everybody freaked out. He didn't exactly follow the plan. I had to kind of like tell him word for word what to say. It's fine. Who cracked me up though, your grandma, like for whatever reason was expecting us to be pregnant with baby number three. Like her reaction kind of shocked me. You can't pull a fast one on that lady. You can't. Vicky is, she knows, man. She's on top of it. She really is. My prediction as of right now is boy but it is the least confident prediction i've had of the three the

strongest reason i think it might be a girl is because my mom thinks it's a boy and she's been wrong every single time your mom is always wrong what are the odds that this is the one time she's right you know what i mean that would be weird yeah i kind of just that's my main and she thinks it's a boy so i'm like that's my strongest indicator that we're having a girl but okay by the way we talked about like the method of like how you can try for a girl specifically we didn't do that method we didn't do that method. So for anybody that's like, oh, you're going to have a girl because you did that method, we didn't do that method. So, I mean, it could still work. And even if we're having a boy, we just didn't do it. So I don't know. Our friends that are pregnant right now, they have two boys.

They just found out that they're expecting their girl. They did the method. They're another people, another couple. Yeah. So I mean, if it's really important to you to have a girl, then I would say try it. Look into it. The shuttle method. Look it up. Shuttle. But we didn't do that. So don't think that we're having a girl. This is not health advice. We are not doctors.

No, for sure. We are just TikTokers who blew up by doing TikTok dances on TikTok. Anyway, so, yeah, I don't really know what to expect. I think we'll probably find out around like halfway mark. I think that's a really good checkpoint for me. Like get to 20 weeks, find out, and then prepare. I don't know if I can wait that long. You want to do the blood test?

They have to draw your blood. Yeah, it's not a big deal. Oh my gosh. They already did draw your blood. I give blood every time we go. A champ when they did that, by the way. So tough. Matt, I've had two babies.

Yeah, that's true. Having a baby is way more. Giving blood is not a problem. Yeah. I don't have a phobia of it. Some people, like, said that their worst part of delivery was the IV. Oh, yeah. And I'm like, no, I don't have a phobia of needles, though.

Which is true. It's kind of weird that that needle has to stay in you for so long. I'm just so excited. Yeah, I'm excited too. And I feel like it's, like, going to be such a good time of year because it's not going to be piping hot. We'll be able to go on walks. We've also just talked about how much we want to do differently this time around. Just because you learn more about yourselves.

You learn more about what the experience is actually like. You learn more what to predict as far as like what birth and postpartum and breastfeeding. Like all those things are going to look like. Obviously, babies love to throw you a curveball. You never know. Every birth is different. But you kind of just have more of like an idea of what to expect. And so we've talked about how many things like we want to do differently this time around.

what things we want to do the same. And I just feel like there's a different, like, level of confidence that I feel this time around. But also, I just know that life wants to humble you all the time. So I can't get too comfortable. But, yeah, this has been pretty good pregnancy so far. Yeah. It doesn't even feel real still.

I know. You're, you've been so tough. You've been, like, just freaking, you've been a warrior throughout this process. That's not true. You guys, Matt has done the bedtime routine for the kids. pretty much every single night. I was asleep before the kids were asleep last night, on the couch while you were putting them to bed. Wait, you're right, actually.

I couldn't do it. Yeah, you fell asleep. Wait, you're right. You're right. That's so funny. What's up with our kids? Wicked up at 5.30, by the way. Oh my God, we need to fix that.

We've been traveling with them too much. Yeah, we, after coming back from St. Louis to tell my parents that were pregnant, our kids have now been waking up at 5.30. Well, he was up before that, Matt. He was up at like five. Guys, like, please just sleep until, can we do 6.30? Like, is that too much to ask? Well, I'm going to start doing their red light green light, and they can't come out until it's a green light.

Yeah, we just bought some blackout curtains at courtesy of Abby, blackout curtains that we will be putting up. And we have this like one little window, though, that is like random in our, in our skylight, basically. Yeah, it's like a skylight. So we need to cover that up to. We need to get a bigger car. We do. We don't have a vehicle with a third row. Let us know your recommendations for a three row vehicle.

We will be in the market for one very soon. Oh my gosh, I was really just thinking of something that sounds so good right now. What? What sounds good? Those pretzel rolls at culinary dropout with the provolone dip and their chopped chicken salad with the beveled eggs. Ooh, do you need to get that? Should we get that for you tonight? No, I should eat my food at home.

If you want, hey, you want it, you got it. Let's make it happen. That sounds so good. But yeah, I just feel so grateful. I feel so thankful. I feel so excited. I feel so happy. I'm just like every day I'm like I can't complain and I just have this like

exciting little how crazy is it and the best person to raise babies oh yes if you guys have been with us since I mean yeah I feel so lucky to have you you're the best mom if you guys have been with us since Hawaii thank you for being here or even if you've been here since we lived in our apartment in Springfield Missouri that's crazy that is even cooler but it's just crazy that it's been gosh it's been five years of being on social media in a big way I mean I guess we started six years ago but it kind of took off five years ago during COVID. And so just to have you all here along for this journey of life is crazy.

And we love like running into you guys and personally. We love getting good chat with each and every one of you whenever we're like out at the grocery store or at Disney World or whatever. The train park. Yeah, the train park. Did someone say hi to you at the train park today? I'm going to talk about the train. That's so sweet. I love that.

And if you're also pregnant at the same time too, comment down below. Comment down below. Like join like that. You can have, like, a little community because pregnancy can be a really lonely, like, isolating time. You're like, I'm not one person going through this. And, like, it's really nice to have other people around you that also can relate and to just, I don't know, make you feel not crazy. It even just makes me feel better when I see, like, these, I show Matt, like, these funny videos. I've been getting all the first trimester Reels recommended to me.

And it's like that video that was like, when my husband brings my food and you're, like, no longer craving it. And it's like, where's my drink? my diet doctor kelp like that like i don't know all these like funny videos about first trimester cravings and like being so tired but then also shout out to matt i i tell you often but i just think like obviously you're the parent to our kids or their father like you do stuff for them always but you've done so much like more than your share recently because i've just been like checked out every nighttime like you've done the nighttime routine every single night you do the morning shift. You just, you, you, you just like doing double time for me, which I really appreciate.

Well, no, I, like you said, I'm their dad. So, like, that is literally my job. But thank you. And then also, it's just so much fun. Like, no, I know you enjoy it. But still, I know, like at times you're probably like, man, I feel like a single dad right now. Well, I, you know, I kind of see the appeal of people that are stay at home dads because, for instance, today going to the gym, we went to the gym as a family the boys specifically wanted me to carry both of them inside and like that's never happened before you know like usually at least one of our boys is wanting mama usually one of them they're starting to prefer you they're like mom's checked out you know i've spent so much time with them that they just like they were fighting over who who dad was going to hold so i held both of them

and it just kind of was cool because that's true you know like they've always been such a fan of their mom because they have the best mom and you're so good to them but this extra sleepy now but i mean the extra quality time with them has been amazing so um it's been a blessing for me too and i feel it's i feel like it's made my life more fulfilling and well you're always like super active with them but like obviously now it's like you've been doing spending way more time with the kids than i have so well truly i mean i was asleep before they were asleep last night if that tells you anything i mean it's been so freaking hot in arizona but the pool man like i go i swim with them in the pool basically every day. And I swear Griffin's going to be the next Michael Phelps because that kid is doing laps

all right. I'm like, dude, you're three. Like you're not, you're not supposed to be able to swim that good at three, but he's so good at swimming. I'm a proud Papa. Yeah. We've been brainstorming baby names. And I feel like we have a more, we have a more established boy name than a girl name, I would say. Really? Okay. Because the girl name that you told me when we were dating is the one that I was thinking that we could potentially use. I still think, I'm like, I still like that one, but I just feel like I am more firm on the boy name, which is weird, because we've already used two boy names.

We're just going to throw away all the names that we decided on in high school while we were naming our children. It's kind of how it goes, usually. Wow. Can't believe that. No, we might use our girl name from when we were high school. You never know. We could.

That would be kind of sweet. It's like we literally have thought of your name since you were in high school. Or since we were in high school. You were 17 and 18? But you know my hang up with that name. I do know your hang up with that name. But, yeah, we'll figure it out. Well, yeah, we will.

There's no reason to get serious about it at 10 weeks prior to. I've already, like, with our close friends and family, I've been telling people the names that we're thinking of, which I think is risky, you know, because if you tell people with the name, then they can tell you they don't like it. Get prepared to get your feelings hurt because someone can say something hurtful. I think it's also different than the way that you say it.

Like, also our family is very good about that. You also have to know who you're, saying it too. I don't think our family is going to say something that is like rude or like don't use that name. But we're like, if it's a boy, we're liking this name. If it's a girl, we're liking this name rather than like, what do you think about this name? Because we like it, that's kind of just like opening the door for feedback if you don't want it. But maybe you do want feedback. I don't know. I also do think that like there's a certain element of like telling other people by the time it's your third, it's like a little bit more casual, right? I can't believe we're here at this point.

Now it just feels like, oh my gosh, we had to wait so long. but hopefully this flies by yep well you guys thank you for being here uh this was a fun little chat and we will see you in the next episode this has been fun you know the news now no more secrets no more secrets