The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Losing my boobs, co-sleeping & throwing a baby shower

Episode Date: June 11, 2025

Matt & Abby catch up on life lately—from co-sleeping with Griffin to planning a baby shower for Abby’s sisters-in-law. They reflect on parenting decisions, body changes after breastfeeding, and the chaos of raising toddlers (including the unexpected things they say). Plus, Abby’s boobs went viral… This episode is sponsored by LiquidIV, Rocket Money and Nutrafol. LiquidIV: Go to https://liquidv.com and get 20% off your first order with code UNPLANNED at checkout Rocket Money: Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to https://RocketMoney.com/unplanned. Nutrafol: Visit https://nutrafol.com and enter promo code UNPLANNEDPOD for $10 off any order and free shipping when you subscribe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah, we did say for the longest time that we were never gonna allow our kids to sleep with us. Abby was even Googling ultra large beds. Our whole family just needs to sleep in one bed, okay? Can we let thank you cards die? I don't like writing them and I've never met someone that's like, I love writing thank you cards. If it's the thought that counts,

then let's let the thought be counting. Welcome back to the unplanned podcast and we are your hosts, Matt and Abby. I don't know how I'm gonna sit here for the next hour. My butt is so sore. Really, from the squats at the gym? I did a bunch of glute exercises yesterday, which usually I can't even figure out

how to activate my glutes. I was convinced I didn't have them. It surely didn't look like I had them. Good thing you're married to a masseuse. Good thing I have a to a masseuse. Good thing I have a personal butt masseuse. Well, seriously, my butt hurts, which is really honestly so exciting

because I feel like it's getting a little bit bigger. I'll massage it after this episode. Anyway, before and after. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, so we actually took our two year old and one year old to see Lilo and Stitch recently. I don't know if you guys have ever taken your toddlers to see a movie. It was our one year old's first movie, which obviously he's one.

That was really early, but he has started to have a much longer attention span. So we were seeing that he was like sitting down and reading books longer. If a show was on, he would actually kind of watch it sometimes. So it gave us enough confidence to kind of like send it. We packed snacks, which we kind of had to sneak into the theater because I don't think you're supposed to pack snacks. To be fair, we also bought stuff there too, because I did feel guilty. I did get a Slurpee.

I got a Slurpee. Good. Griffin did great. Griffin has an abnormally long attention span. He loves, loves movies. Basically like the day he turned two was like the first movie he ever went to, like right around that, his birthday. And he has done amazing ever ever since like he loves it. He really looks forward to it He calls it the big movies August our wild card

So we were a little hesitant and you know what he did he did some odd things He started singing twinkle twinkle little star like full volume middle of the movie Just like also in like he was like a row ahead of us like he was just like Couldn't he was he was in my lap at first, and then he eventually- He did good for like the first hour. He was amazing. And then he left my lap because he noticed that I think your mom had candy

and he wanted to go eat the candy. But then yeah, by the end of the movie, he was running around. So I took him out of the theater for a little bit just to get some wiggles out. He wasn't like disturbing everyone. Like he was like still being quiet, but he definitely was getting restless.

Yeah, he was. Also he, anytime Stitch comes on the screen, he's going, Like he was like still being quiet, but he definitely was getting restless. Yeah Anytime stitch comes on the screen at the easer going Like growling at About that. Yeah So funny, yeah, he's so fun. He did him. He honestly he did amazing It was really fun and obviously was a perfect movie to take him to because it was very kid friendly, lots of kids in the crowd. We went at 3pm, all kids, and it was a really good time. There was an entire gang of kids. I looked up there and there was like 12 middle schoolers

all together hanging out. They looked pretty intimidating. Yeah, think about how scary it was for me when I was substitute teaching high schoolers and I was like literally 21. And you're 5 too. You're like, you're shorter than all the kids. Oh yeah. I literally think about that sometimes, because I tell Griffin, I'm like right now, because he'll be like, I'm stronger than you.

I'm like, no, no, no. I was like, mommy's stronger than you right now. I said, one day you're gonna be stronger than me, but right now I'm stronger than you. Like one day you're gonna be taller than me, but right now I'm taller than you. And so Griffin told me the other day too, he said, because I was like, you're eating your food that's so good he says

yeah I'm gonna be strong like mama it's so cute should we talk about the the situation with sleep that we're going through right now something happened when we got rid of our son's binkies a couple months ago no we got rid of his binkies in January was that in January yes oh my gosh anyway he's been waking up in the night ever since then and recently it got to No, we got rid of his binkies in January. Was that in January? Yes. Oh my gosh. Anyway, he's been waking up in the night ever since then. Literally six months. Yeah, recently it got to be worse.

So it was happening six, seven times a night, like literally more. We were getting up more than we were with a newborn. Yes. And it got to the point where we just threw in the towel and said, screw it, we're going to go ahead and just have them come in our bed. Well here's the thing we regressed in every area possible and you know what people are gonna disagree with what we've decided to do that's actually totally fine you are allowed to disagree but I will also tell you you haven't been in everyone's situations because remember the big

podcast we did about taking away the binkies. Oh, yeah, we gave him back We surely did just in a hope because that's when you started waking up You started waking up in the night every single time ever since we took away the binkies in January So then we're like, oh we'll give it back that'll fix everything Nope, he already got used to not having the binkies and waking up. So he now has the binkies was waking up It was like we had done so many things. I had talked to a private sleep consultant. I did sleep training programs. I'm googling everything I'm like I'm fighting everything and it literally came to a point where I was like I It's not that serious. It's actually not that serious

What was psycho though was the quote that you got for somebody to come to our house and do three days of sleep training. Dude, we can't even say how bad, like that's bad, but like what if we still end up needing to do that? We can't do that. It was just an ungod. I really looked up at one point because it was like Matt said, it was like six or seven times and it was like actually so difficult. I was like, maybe we should just, I'm sure there's a service where they'll like come

and like help teach you how to train your kid to sleep. It was $8,000 for the lowest package. That was the lowest package? Yes. I thought that was like the Mecca package. Like the premium. That was the budget package.

Are you serious right now? I'm pretty sure. Who can afford that? Don't quote me on that. Who, I'm sorry. Okay, wait, let me just tell you everything. Private sleep consultant, sleep training programs, Googling, I took him to his pediatrician. I was like, maybe there's something actually wrong.

Take him to the pediatrician, get him an x-ray. We can speculate all day about what could be wrong, but the reality is when he's, you know, sleeping with us. No, the reality is that we have to do so this is strictly behavioral because if I sleep with him, he sleeps through the night. And so now I'm not really worried as much about his health because for a while there I was like,

something's actually seriously wrong with our kid. So that's what I was like really concerned about. Once we ruled that out, I was like, you know what? It's not that serious. When he wakes up after his first wake up, I'm gonna just sleep with him. And that's what we've been doing. And apparently it's like normal too

for kids to have a regression around this age. A lot of parents apparently experience that. Yeah, but I feel like they say that about literally every single age. There's a bazillion regressions. There are so many. You know what's really bad is when a regression leaves you lower than you were the last time.

You're like, I cannot believe we actually like Regressed this far. Oh, yeah, but then I was really beating myself about it We were like we were having so many problems with it And then finally I feel like we both kind of arrived at this Resolution where I'm like I'm gonna eat all my words because co-sleeping was something that I never wanted to do I spent I'm not I don't I still don't think I would ever do it with him as a baby. That would make me too anxious to sleep with a baby. I would be way too anxious about safety and everything.

But with a toddler at this point, he's definitely safe to sleep with us. And then I'm like, it's not that serious. What's really important is that he gets sleep, which he was not getting, you guys. I swear this kid was just going on fumes. But the thing about it is he can get very little sleep and just be totally fine.

Have you noticed that? Yeah, he actually can. Our kids are like the energizer bunnies. Yeah, he'll wake up, yeah, if he wakes up six or seven times in the night, then for some reason he's still up at 6 a.m. And going harder than ever. Like he has like an adrenaline effect.

It's impressive. I did Google that. Apparently there's a couple different reactions to exhaustion in toddlers and one of them is like an adrenaline boost. Oh really? I think he has that reaction because he doesn't get like you know super cry like he doesn't cry a lot or whine or throw fits really. It's really just like he just has double the energy. There was a reel that I watched and I was sobbing remember that night that we got I like couldn't stop crying. Yeah. And we got

that happens at least once a week when you go on Instagram reels. Yeah, it's a sad video It's always it's always the videos too of the families growing as each generation Joins the the family Picture you got like the great-grandparents that started off and then their kids and then their kids come in and then it's really sweet You need to make one of those and we're like 90 yeah, be sweet. I hope I make one of those when we're like 90. Yeah, be sweet. I hope I make it to 90.

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talking to her adult daughter, it's from a movie, they're actors, but she's just like talking about, she's like, you were the hardest sleeper. She's like, oh my gosh, I had to rock you to sleep until you were like three or something like that. And then she's like, one night it was just so bad and you kept crying. I finally got you to sleep. And then next thing you know you're crying again.

I'm paraphrasing obviously. And then her daughter's like, so what did you do? And then her mom's like, I rocked you back to sleep. And then she's like, mom, you did not need to do that. She's like, boundaries, you need to take to do that. She's like boundaries. You need to take care of yourself She's like no she's like cuz I remember I knew one day. I'm not gonna. Okay. I'm gonna cry right now One day you're not gonna need me to rock you back I have a problem with this type of stuff guys This is like literally like if you want to make me cry. Yep talk about my kids growing up

That's what I'm thinking like right now. It's like he's not always going To need us to fall asleep, you know? You talk so I don't keep crying. No, I mean, you're right, they're growing up a lot and it blows my mind how our one year old understands everything that we say completely and he's talking now, he's actually speaking words Griffin's using full sentences that's weird you know that's where that he can

actually formulate an entire sentence he's only two I feel like that's pretty advanced for a two-year-old I could be wrong but I'm just starting to think more and more I'm like wow I'm really you can say all these things before you become a parent like I'm never gonna do this I would never do this, I'm like, wow, I'm really... you can say all these things before you become a parent, like, I'm never gonna do this, I would never do this, or I'm only gonna do this, but going through parenthood and like actually being a parent and interacting with your child, you kind of come to a point where you're like, yeah, I never thought I would do this, but this just feels like what we need to do at this point, and that's exactly how it feels like right now. I

don't know how long this is gonna last, but I know that my time, like, our time of being his ultimate safe place, the place where he can finally rest and be calm and feel safe and, like, loved and not feel so anxious is, like, so limited. Abbie was even googling ultra-large beds the other day because she was like... Yeah, I searched mega bed for kids and she was like maybe we need to see our whole family just needs to sleep in one bed okay I was like well okay hold the horses here like our one year old is still

Instagram actually blocked me for that by the way if you search can I say this I don't know if we ever get flagged if you search mega bed for kids on Instagram I feel weird about this I gotta just get out there it blocked it wouldn't let you it. It flagged me for like inappropriate searching for children. I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute. The reason I searched that is because I had seen a reel about a family that all sleeps in one big huge bed. Oh really? It's like bigger than a California

king. It's like huge. Holy hell. And I think it's like low to the ground so like it's safer for kids. Yeah. And so I was trying to find that video again because I didn't save it, of course. I searched that. I searched mega bed for kids. I got flagged. Get flagged. Yeah, like I'm a predator or something.

I really felt so weird about that. I was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe I just have it. I felt so misunderstood by my search engine. All that to say like, we are hypocrites. That's what I am. I'm a hypocrite. Well yeah, I guess we did. But I honestly love it now.

It's so sweet. Yeah, we did say for the longest time that we were never gonna allow our kids to sleep with us. And now we're- We hate our words. We're eating our words. As long as we're still good at having one-on-one time, especially before he goes to bed,

because he goes to bed before us, obviously, so we can still be together, just the two of us. Yeah, there's ways to be together. In our bed, before he comes in. And we always check in with each other, make sure, okay, you still go with this arrangement, you still go with this. It's still kind of new, but honestly,

I'm just grateful that everyone's sleeping again, because that was pretty crazy. I feel like when I had a newborn, I would be really annoyed when people would be like, oh, it's worse than when we're a newborn, like when things would be tough with toddlers. And I'm like, I would get so annoyed by that. I'm like, no, it's not gonna be worse than when you're a,

it could not be, like, cause it's, you know, this was kind of worse than when he was a newborn. It really was. It was pretty crazy. We're like, we just need to sleep. So we just need to get some sleep because we fought it for so long and then we stopped fighting it

and now everyone's sleeping and everyone's happy. So we have a cozy household right now. But honestly, it's kind of nice for traveling. Now we need less rooms. Yeah. Oh, I lost my shoe. Oh, totally. And speaking of traveling,

I think it's official that we are going to Hawaii this summer. Woo! Right? That literally just happened this week because we were had like, we tossed around the idea for, I mean, for always. We're always like, we want to go. Yeah. But, Auggie has never been. I know.

Except for in my womb. We haven't been in, was it, it was two years ago that we were there last time. You were pregnant with Auggie when we were in Hawaii last. Yeah. It's been over two years ago that we were there last time. You were pregnant with Augie when we were in Hawaii last. Yeah. It's been over two years. Funny enough, I reached out to one of our friends checking to see if they were gonna be in town while we were there,

and they said actually that they're not. They're like doing some traveling themselves. And so it looks like we're gonna be able to stay at their house for free, which is so clutch. That place is amazing. Yeah, huge, huge trap for them. They're so generous. I just can't wait to

surf again. I'm so excited to see you surf. And I want to play with the boys on the beach and build sandcastles and do all that good stuff. Yeah, that's really exciting. The thing I'm a little scared for is that will be probably the longest flight that Augie's ever done. And every single time we do a flight with the boys, it's always- I almost now think it's better to break it up. You think so? I used to think it was straight shot. Now I'm like, maybe we need to break it up. Now that they're so mobile, they kind of need to get their wiggles out.

Here's the thing though. I think because we are only six hours away from Maui, it might be worth it to. So you don't have to backtrack. Well, we could fly to LA and then go. Yeah, we could fly to LA, but even then, like I think that might save us 30 minutes. Like I think the straight shot from LA is five and a half.

So we're gonna save just a tiny bit of time. I think it just makes sense to straight shot it, yeah. Boy. What's our game plan for the flight to Hawaii? Snacks, no limits on screens on the plane. No limits on screens. Not on a plane. You know what actually could work now?

Auggie usually wouldn't sit still for a show or anything, but I think he might actually do it now. I'll bring a ton of games. Here's the thing, is that our kids know that there's no limits of screen time when they're on a plane, so then Griffin always just immediately wants to watch a show when he's on a plane. Actually, Matt, you know what a crazy statistic? What? Guess what percentage of, by the age of two, what percentage of American two-year-olds have an iPad?

Of their own. Oh gosh, what percentage of American kids? Yeah. Maybe like 30%. 40. Holy frick. Yeah, we haven't gone to iPads yet. We do let them watch shows occasionally.

Like we said, we took them to the movies and stuff. But they don't just like have a screen that they get to use except for on the airplane. We download shows and on our phones and that they can watch and they surely love that. Well, that's why attention spans are so bad. You know, even my attention span, I think has been shredded by freaking TikTok. You know, recently I was was considering deleting all the social media apps off my phone. No, Matt, I actually wanted to show you this.

There's this thing called the Lite Phone. Have you heard of that? I think so, actually. It's like a very basic phone, but it can do all the modern functions you want, like the functions that you need it to have. It can do email, it can do text, all that. But it doesn't, it's like very stripped back.

Yeah. I'll show it to you, I saved it. Remind me to show you after this. Honestly, it was like maybe I should switch to that. Yeah, well I've also thought about having two phones, like having a work phone and then a personal phone. That way I can like leave work stuff on one device and just like at five o'clock, put that away.

Well, it's kind of nice for work then too, because then you don't have personal stuff creeping. Like it always feels so like it's bleeding together. Yeah and that's the thing like when you're when you can be reached at any time it kind of you know sways the boundaries of what's work what's not personal and I really would like to have more separation there you know. Let's both get light phones I think they're like a hundred dollars they weren't like crazy yeah I don't know how that works with your phone plan though or anything.

Interesting. That just feels a little confusing here's the only thing though is it gonna be an Android and then our text messages will be green oh they'll definitely be green oh gosh I don't know if we could do that the only thing no I will mess up all fine we'll mess up the family group chat baby then I don't think you can FaceTime and the group chats get messed up that is the scam you say the fact that iPhone pulled that off like it kind of bothers me when people have green text messages yeah you know to get messed up. We'll have to see. We'll have to look into that. That is the scammiest thing. The fact that iPhone pulled that off, like it kind of bothers me when people

have green text messages. Yeah. You know, so then like, I don't want to leave the iPhone family. That's honestly genius that they did that. Yeah, well it's something weird, like why do you care? But then also it does kind of feel weird.

But you know in other countries, everybody uses, I think it's WhatsApp, or they're like another messaging app. So people don't even care if you have an Android in a lot of people and you snapchat Yeah, that's true, which feels so foreign to me. That's how I know that we're actually Millennials at heart and not Gen Z because We would never consider using snapchat to communicate. I mean most of our friends are like 30 So yeah, that kind of pulls us more into the millennial crowd. Yeah. Comment down below. How old are you watching this right now? Let us know in the comments.

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in town tomorrow. Yeah, by the time you guys have watched this episode or listened to this episode, Abby will have thrown a baby shower for both Addy and Abby. On the way over here, she was actually putting in orders for plates and napkins and food. Margarita glasses. Wait, what's the food? What do you, what type of food are we gonna? Paninis. Paninis, what type of paninis? From Postino's. Oh, I love Postino's paninis. Yeah.

That's fun. It's gonna be delicious. I know it was a big debate whether or not I was gonna do a shower separately for each of them or a joint one, but when it comes down to it, the moms wanted to be together. That's, okay, I know you said that, but then when you told me you're doing the joint one,

I said, babe, the comment section on TikTok was telling you to do separate ones. So then I was worried. I was like, maybe people aren't gonna realize that Addie and Abby actually told you to have one that's joined. I'll make it clear. They did tell me that.

Because here's the other thing too, is that there's people traveling in and there's a lot of people that like could only come like they were gonna have to choose if it was separate yeah but would have liked to attend both and so then the comments on Instagram were like to do two showers in the same weekend totally which I genuinely is just not feasible and so I was gonna have to just do them two separate and them both moms sweared they're like I we want this to be together. Yeah, to shower. I mean, I know it's not as big as a wedding, but throwing two baby showers in the same weekend while you're a mother of two toddlers is a lot.

Well, also, it would still make people choose that no one's going to go to two showers in one weekend, I don't think. Yeah. Like you're going to get a little showered out at that point. So and you know what? The benefit of this, too, is that they're going to get more gifts. Yeah, because everyone's going to get a gift for both out at that point. So, and you know what the benefit of this too, is that they're gonna get more gifts. Yeah, they will. Because everyone's gonna get a gift for both of them probably.

That's a good point. So, I think it's a win, win, win, win, win in my book and you'll have to let me know if TikTok's okay with that. Yeah, I will, I will babe. Talk to me about the culture of baby showers. Like what do you do at a baby shower? I've never obviously been to one, so. Some people do games, but I'm personally not a fan of games at a

shower. Well, you know what? I should take that back. I think there's some fun games at showers, but I asked the moms if they want to do games and they're like, no, really no games. So we're just going to mingle. And here's something I did not like at my bridal shower and my baby shower. First of all, obviously I'm so thankful that some people were throwing showers for me, but I felt a little bit uncomfortable and I know that if I felt a little uncomfortable, then people that are a little bit more shy than me would feel really uncomfortable because then you just sit there and open everyone's gift in front of everyone, but it's also kind

of boring as a guest to watch them open gifts. So you're not gonna have them open the gifts. They can open them, but I'm not gonna make a huge thing. Like I think they'll open them at the shower, but I'm not gonna make a huge thing like I think they'll open them at the shower but I'm not gonna make a huge thing of like okay everyone be quiet settle down they're gonna open their gifts now because that's just a little bit no one it's not fun to watch it's not fun to do but it's just something you feel like you have to do. Yeah you have to give a big reaction to and then you don't want to make anybody feel bad that they got you a lame gift. Here's something else I'm not do. It's up to the moms what they want to do. But if they want me to write down who got them what, I will do that, but I feel like,

can we let thank you cards die?" "-Can we let thank you cards die? Tell me more, I like this hot take." "-It always felt like after a shower, I was like, oh my gosh, now I have this overwhelming burden because someone gave me a pack of binkies. I gotta write them a long card and I gotta address it and I gotta mail it off and stamp it because they gave me binkies at my shower. I'm a big fan of verbal thank yous. Like, hey, thank you so much for giving me this gift. Or even, hey, shoot me a text. And look, if somebody wants to do a thank you card, that's amazing. That's so kind.

But it is a lot for that person then to send that back. And on the other hand, when I get a random thank you card, I'm like, that was really nice. They didn't have to do that though. Yeah. Like that's what I feel like in my head. I'm like, oh man, I really feel like this was probably like a burden for them.

And I just, I really wanted to just give them a gift. I didn't want to give them a task. And so sometimes when I get thank you gifts, like from, I got one from a wedding that we weren't able to attend, but we sent a gift, they sent us a thank you. And I'm like, oh my gosh, they did not have to do that. I just wanted them to enjoy the gift

because I feel that secondhand pressure when I receive it. I'm like, oh, this felt like such a burden for them. So I feel like the only person- Did we ever do all our wedding thank you cards? Yeah, we did. We did all the wedding ones? Yeah. And that's another thing.

It always ends up being the mom doing the thank you cards because they got the gift for the mom. It's just like, oh, don't give her a task. She's another thing. It always ends up being the mom doing the thank you cards because they got the gift for the mom. It's just like, oh, don't give her a task. She's already pregnant. She's already grown a human. The only person that I'm gonna probably write thank you cards from here on out is for your mother because it really means a lot to her.

It does mean a lot to my mom. So I'm gonna just make a rule in my head, like no more thank you cards except for Teresa. I think that's good. And so I'm not gonna hand the girls a big, that's another thing too. A lot of people at showers will just like already address the envelopes for you. Don't you think it's a little weird? Yeah, it's kind of saying like I expect you to write me. That's what has happened to me at showers

They like address them already and obviously that's nice because it's taking part of the burden out for you But then it's like oh man, I really do have to write a thank-you card now Yeah, am I the problem honestly you guys if this is it's okay. Hey, no, I support your hot take. I support this hot take. I don't like writing them, and I've never met someone that's like, I love writing thank you cards. In fact, when I bring it up to my friends,

they're always like, oh my gosh, I literally still feel guilt for not finishing my wedding thank you cards. I just wanna free everyone of that guilt, and just know that in our hearts, we know that you're thankful. We know that you feel grateful. Yeah.

Don't feel burdened by this anymore. Let's just do verbal thank yous. It's the thought that counts. If it's the thought that counts, then let's let the thought be counting. Totally. That's my hot take. That's good.

So we're just gonna, it's orange themed. Well, it's cutie themed. The theme is two little cuties are on the way, and it's gonna be orange and citrus everywhere. We're gonna have blood orange margaritas and blood orange mocktails. Yep. Oh my gosh, I tested out the recipe for family dinner last weekend and everyone got drunk. No, I'm just kidding.

Girl, you were putting- Including great grandma. You were doing doubles in these margaritas. I was just following the recipe, you guys, and I took one sip and I almost literally passed out. That tasted like cleaner. I don't like tequila. Double shots baby. Was your grandma acting some sort of type of way after that? No, she takes her alcohol well. Gigi put it put it down. Let's go Gigi. She had one margarita but they were strong so I'm gonna do half the tequila for the shower. I'm serious. It was the taste of nail polish remover. You should do, you should do, okay hold up, at the shower you gotta do that audio that's like Give me one margarita, I'm a da ba da ba, give me two margarita, I'm a da ba da ba.

No, man, that's such a vulgar, I heard that song. Oh, actually now that I think of the lyrics, yeah. Yeah. I mean, good thought, but hello. It's a family crowd. It is a family crowd. Oh, sheesh. Whoops.

So that's this weekend, we're going to VidCon, guys, which- Oh, yeah. Hold up. I feel weird about- Wait, how do you feel about doing a podcast live in front of an audience? You guys, we're doing- that's what we're doing. I feel pretty much like I'm trying to avoid thinking about it, but I do feel amped in a way because I know in this situation I'm gonna be your rock.

I- here's the thing. You're so much better at public speaking than me. You grew up doing speeches in your hometown. Why do you always bring that up? You're literally a speaker. You're trained. I'm not. Literally when you were a child you were trained to be a good speaker. I'm untrained. You're untrained? Yes. What do you mean? You grew up training to be a speaker. Who trained me? You spoke with the mayor of your town. I just did it. A small town. I mean, and you like lit the bridge when they built the bridge in your small town. I just have more confidence in you.

You do, hey, I'll admit it, you do. So I feel like I gotta be tough because I'm like, I know you're gonna feel a little nervous that day. I think we're gonna crush it. I think it's gonna be great. And I know that we're gonna crush it. It's gonna be amazing. Here's where I feel better.

We have guests now. So at first I was like, oh, frick. Do we officially? I think we do. I think we were officially locked in. We're gonna save that as a surprise that you asked me to be surprised as to who the guests are, but somebody that we've had on before a fan favorite

We do have guests so that is gonna be a huge help because I don't know what the heck we talk about Like talking about our life in front of an audience of 250 people would feel weird, dude Like that would feel so it feels so comfortable that we're just talking that's true in this like we're by ourselves right now We've never even attended VidCon. So the fact that we're going and we're just like full sending it, we're gonna be on a panel, we're gonna be doing a live podcast, it's really pushing us outside of our comfort zones. Yep. I think it's gonna go great, it'll be a fun time, we have a couple fun interviews planned also while we're going to LA, just knock it out. You guys are really gonna be shocked by these

interviews, I've kind of told my friends are like, wait what? And I'm like, yeah, I don't know what gave me these qualifications, in fact I don don't have them, but this is really fun and cool. It kind of is wild when you think about it. Some of the people in the past have gotten the opportunity to interview. And I know that the little like little Matt would be literally freaking out if he knew that we were doing this. That's really cool. Yeah. Lots coming up. Your birthday's coming up. I know. Father's Day is coming up. Oh my gosh. Is it the same day? That's up. I know. Father's Day's coming up. Oh my gosh, is it the same day this year?

That's crazy. No, I think my birthday and father's day are like two days apart this year. So we got, that way we can, we have plenty of time to, I'm literally like scared I'm gonna say something stupid now I'm like, what crap, what am I? Don't worry about it. You may have heard of NutriFull's Hair Grow supplements

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Why do I worry that we've- I've already peaked. Why is that, like, a fear that I have, that I've peaked already? No, no, no, no, no. You're not afraid about that? No. No. I told you this in the car yesterday. I was like, I feel like I don't fear aging at all.

Okay. Like, I don't want aging at all. Okay. Like I don't want to resist it. I like it. Now, obviously, physically aging, if I want to do, if I want to get a little botox, that's fine in my book. I'm talking about like in my, in my mentality, I don't want to fight or resist like or dread each year that I get older.

Yeah. I don't want to be like, don't ask me how old I am. Like I don't want be like, don't ask me how old I am. I don't wanna feel ashamed of that. I feel like every year, I have genuinely lived my life to its fullest. So I'm just like, that year, 25 was amazing. 26 so far is amazing.

I wanna look back at each year with so much gratitude that I'm like, that was a full chapter. That year was a great, amazing year. I wanna put that, I wanna add that one to my tool belt. I wanna, if I was a Girl Scout, I wanna add that patch. Like with honor, you know? I like that. Cause I was telling you, I was like,

it makes it, you know that cheesy song, it's like, I swear I lived. That's how I feel. I listen to that like every morning. I'm like, I feel like I lived that. I wanna be proud of that. I don't wanna just be like, oh, just pretend that never happened.

I'm still like, no. And also just, and also when you see someone that's fully embracing the stage of life that they're in, it kinda gives you confidence too, you know what I mean? Where it's like, oh, I can be really satisfied with exactly where I'm at right now. And it just makes everyone just feel a lot more contentment. So I feel really good about you turning 27. Really? On June 18th. And you

feel good about my wrinkly eyes because I think your wrinkles are sexy. You told me that the other day and it actually shocked me because... Did it make you feel bad? I was like I literally thought about it for a while. I was like I shouldn't point it out because I don't want them to think I really don't want them to think the wrong way. I mean it's the reality I have wrinkly eyes. The skin around my eyeballs, it's wrinkly. Well, it's more wrinkly than when I met you, which when you were a literal child. Yeah.

And I think it's hot. Thank you. I think maturity looks good on you. Thank you. Thank you, babe. But yeah, I feel like every year that we hit, it's just great. Also, I feel like we're gonna feel like

we're hit our stride more. Our 20s are supposed to be a disaster. And they're going pretty well. Yeah, I would say our 20s have gone well. We've lived a lot of life. We have. We've done a lot. We have to remind ourselves to slow down, honestly. Yeah, like even just the year that we moved to Arizona,

I was like, babe, we were pregnant with our first kid, moved literally part of the way across the entire planet because we went from Hawaii to Arizona. I mean huge geographical change and then we bought a house and then had our baby and then got pregnant by surprise. Like everything happened so quickly. It's been weird to be in a season of things slowing down for a little bit because we were like hustling there for a bit. Yeah, it's hard to not like let that make you antsy though. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Just to kind of sit in it. Yeah, which is why I'm excited to get out for a little bit, to go to Hawaii this summer. Cause I like change. I do like staying busy, you know? No, I think we have been staying busy. Yeah.

I'm just talking about like major life changes nothing in the past year, which is Good, I feel like that was the only reason why we were kind of tempted to get a dog or a cat Like I feel like we don't actually want one. We feel like we're due for another life change Well, it's just sweet every single time our boys see a dog. They that's true. They love dogs They we go and pet the dogs when we're walking in our neighborhood and neighbors are walking with their dogs They love them even that like the airport. They'll always notice the service dogs walking around which we have to remind them not to touch those dogs I always tell them like they're working right now

Working right now. Yeah, adorable. Well, cuz they are They're on the clock and then what do they say back there? They respect that they understand that they're service dogs. They're working. They're working You can't rub them. They're on the clock. And then what do they say back? They respect that. They understand that they're service dogs. Yeah, they're like, they're working. They're working. You can't interrupt them, they're working. That's like when I'm in my office, you tell them, dad is working right now. Dad is working right now. Yeah.

Griffin tells me that, well, he tells Augie that now. Really? He says, no, I'm working. He says that? If Augie's trying to take something that he wants, he says he's working. Or because you told Griffin that you needed privacy at one point, he'll tell people that he needs privacy. He says he needs privacy.

Yeah. Or he'll say, I need a minute. I said that, I said that, I was like, I just need a minute. And he's like, I need a minute. You know, a dog would be really fun, but what actually did kind of throw me for a curveball was we hung out with our friends, Lauren and Ari, like a week and a half ago, and they have a cat. No and they have a cat. No, they have two cats.

They have two cats. They're gorgeous. And our kids were just mesmerized by these cats. They loved them. And honestly, they're a lot more low maintenance. They seem to be at least. I had a dog and I had a cat growing up. My dog was a lot more work.

Well, can't you even travel and just like give your cat their food and water and they're chilling? Like, is that a thing? No, someone's gonna have to come and like replenish it. Oh, gotcha. And like clean out the litter box. But I don't feel like cats miss you as much as dogs do. Yeah.

Dogs get like lonely and sad. I feel like cats generally want to be alone. Like my cat, like he kind of seemed more pissed when we came back home. Yeah, I don't know. Like that's the thing about cats too. Like my cat would literally sleep with me. Charlie. Yeah.

Would sleep with me every night from the age, from the time I was in fourth grade to I graduated high school slept with me every night cuddled me and then bit me every single morning. There's no loyalty. How are you not allergic? Because for me, I sneeze so much around them. So we're gonna have to get like a hairless cat if we decide to get one. I would just have to take like Claretin or something. Every day? Every day. Is that okay? I don't know. I would yeah. You should probably be taking it now because I feel like you have allergies now. I do yeah I probably need to get some sort of nose surgery to enlarge in my nostrils because I can't even breathe out my

nose half the time. You should go to the ENT. Like even right now one of my nose is like my my right nostrils like clogged. Clogged with what? I don't know. It's not? I don't know. Inflammation? Just something like it's just like I need some sort of fix there. I think you need to see an ENT for sure. I probably do.

That would be amazing. Yeah, I feel like we do need to get a cat. There's a weird phenomena that happens to everyone I know that has a toddler or a baby and has a dog. They start to kind of despise their dog. Really? Yeah. They're like it's just one more thing to like over stimulate you. and has a dog, they start to kind of despise their dog. Really? Yeah.

They're like, it's just one more thing to like over-stimulate you. Like when things are going wrong and then your dog barks, it's just like, shut up! Actually, you're so right. And I was saying this earlier, I was reading our boys the book Lady and the Tramp, and that's literally what happens in the book Lady and the Tramp. They get a baby and they don't care about the dog anymore. And Lady just becomes... I don't know, irrelevant.

Nobody cares about lady anymore because there's a baby. I thought that was so interesting because that's actually what happens. I feel like you either have to get the dog before you have the kids or now that we're at this point where we have the kids, wait until they're old enough to kind of like help take care of it.

Maybe five. And they can at least like open the door to let them go to the bathroom or something like that. But letting our dog go on our turf, we just got brand new turf. You would let the dog poop and pee on our turf? What do you think other people are doing, Matt? I don't know. Also, what do you think the animals are doing on your turf right now?

It kind of grosses me out. Grass feels different. It's not like it's carpet. Grass feels different though, because it feels like there's like movement going, like there's recycling the circle of life. You know, the grass is growing and dying and it like goes into the dirt. I feel like it's better because the pee can't kill your grass. It's just artificial turf, it just seems like it just sits there and it never goes away. Well Matt, there's sand and stuff there. Yeah, it just kind of feels, feels kind of icky.

I mean, you're right, I've seen those dog parks where it's just all turf and there's dogs that go pee and poop on the turf and that's, that's that. that but I wouldn't I sure as heck wouldn't want to roll around in that turf I wouldn't wanna know maybe we should we're not even gonna get it. Are we gonna get a dog? I think the more realistic approach would be getting a cat. Okay, are we gonna get a cat? I don't think so right now. We need to keep thinking about that because I'm like If I get one I'm gonna love the crap out of it and like make sure it's well taken care of that one Make sure we're in a bright spot first and right now I feel like neither one of us is like, if I get one, I'm gonna love the crap out of it and like make sure it's well taken care of. But I wanna make sure we're in the right spot first. And right now I feel like neither one of us is like, oh yeah. Who would be the primary caretaker of this animal?

I already know it would be me. Really? You're not an animal person. You would actually love this animal so much more than me. Yeah. More than- Because you grew up with the animal. You grew up with your dog in person. Let me be clear, I wouldn't love the animal more than I love you.

Oh yeah. But I would love the animal more than you would love the animal. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. You just never had animals growing up. I didn't, yeah. So... I had a ferret, that's pretty much it.

That's the closest... I was like, did you even care about the ferret? I did until I sold him. Oh, sad. That doesn't feel like you care about him that much. Yeah, I start to... Like, you know, it's just a ferret. Did your parents make you sell him?

No, I think I just... You chose to sell him? Yes, because I got him in fourth grade and then by eighth grade I kind of realized, you know, I'm older now. This ferret could have a better home. You weren't attached to your pets like I was. I was not. I mean, it's a ferret, babe. It's like... Dude, I had a dwarf hamster that lived longer than any dwarf hamster ever lived because I like took the most care for it. I loved Maggie with my whole heart. I could still cry thinking about losing Maggie. Was that like a very

memorable event when you found Maggie dead? Yes, and actually Matt, that's another reason why I want to get a pet for our kids eventually is because first of all, she taught me responsibility. She taught me like, you know, to care for her, all these. But then also, it was like a practice loss, you know what I mean? Like losing a pet is really hard, but losing a family member is a lot harder. This was like test, this was a test ground for me to practice grieving, you know what I mean? Yeah. It was like I had my training wheels on, so I like knew what grief felt like. Did you know that my pet rat when I was a kid got a tumor and died? Yeah, this story scars me. Honestly, I don't, I think what I might be out on is any small household rodents. So we're not doing a rat for our kids? First of all, even with not high energy kids, have you heard of very many small household pets that have had not come to a fateful demise?

That's true. There was somebody who accidentally, oh my gosh, wasn't it my brother in college? Like one of their friends. In the door? Yeah, the hamster's legs got slammed in the door. I hear too many stories like that. About bunnies too, their backs are so fragile. Oh gosh.

I'm telling you. People need to be nicer to their animals, man. Some of these. They're trying, but accidents happen and they're just so fragile. Well, apparently the hamster that- We could get them in a gnoll. A gnoll?

Those little lizards. I used to like those little guys. Or a bearded dragon, those are cool. Actually that'd be better, cause it's harder to lose. Yeah. Cause those gnolls jump and then they could be anywhere in our house.

Our kids would love a pet. Even if we got a little fish. Oh my gosh. Wait, Griffin and Augie- No, not a fish. They would love a fish, Abby. You can't hold it. True. Also, how many fish do you know that have come to a fateful end? True. Literally, I got a fish at the fair and he didn't even make it home. I've heard of stories of kids where they find a cabinet full of replacement

fish so that every time they kill their goldfish, they just put a new one in. I got a fish. And I feel like education needs to be a big part of these one in. I got a fish and I feel like education needs to be a big part of these pet stores because I got a fish when I was like in second grade. First time we cleaned his bowl he died. I think the water was too cold or something. No. Yeah. I'm telling you maybe we should I think we need to just limit it to dogs or cats because these other animals we don't have the education for it. We don't have the careful hands for it. I wonder how many of those fish that they sell at the pet stores actually make it longer than a year. I mean, what are their life expectancies though?

Okay, longer than a month. They're like a coin fish. They probably don't last very long at all. They're kind of going straight to their death. Don't say that. That's so sad. Yeah, it's morbid, honestly. But kids love it.

Kids love them. I've seen Griffin and Augie play with- Dude, I wanted a pet so bad, I had a fake lizard that I literally had in a cage I made little outfits for, and she was named Lizzie. Everyone in my class liked Lizzie too. Good ol' Lizzie. Yeah, I'm telling you.

I think there's something to kids having pets growing up. I think it teaches them a lot of life lessons, a lot of responsibility, a lot of like, how to love and nurture, things like that. But I just think we're not there yet. Yeah. But I wanna keep that door open down the line and I feel like cat is almost more promising now, which I never thought we would have thought.

So true, so true. Yeah, I would have to take some medication or something to help me get through that. Or we could get a hairless cat for you. The thing is hairless cats are so ugly though. You're offending someone right now. I wouldn't want that thing walking around our house. That would be nasty.

Can I tell you guys something a little TMI? Let's hear it. I'm gonna tell them about last night. Oh, frick. Yes, last night. I like forgot there for a second. I have the worst stomach pain and toilet troubles you could ever imagine.

I was probably miserable to be around. I kept apologizing to you this morning because I was so mean because I was in so much pain. It was sad. I could tell you were hurting. I was, you guys, it was for hours, hours. I was like struggling. It was actually right before we put the kids to bed.

I was like, Matt, I'm tapping out. I'm tapping out for good. Because I was like, I'm not okay. I thought I was going to throw up. I thought things were going to just go so south. And then I like had to, I'm tapping out for good, because I was like, I'm not okay. I thought I was gonna throw up. I thought things were gonna just go so south. And then, I like had to, I was really hot. I was really cold. I slept, this probably isn't good.

I slept with fuzzy socks on, a sweatshirt, and a heating pad all night. I didn't realize that you had the heating pad on all night. Yes I did. Babe, that was on medium, that's like pretty. I turned it down to low. Oh you did, okay. Or to warm. But you guys, okay. Or to warm.

But you guys, this is how much my husband... This is the perfect example snapshot of Matt Howard's personality. I'm sitting on the toilet in her bathroom, completely naked. I had no clothes on because I was just like, I don't know what's gonna happen. I thought I was gonna throw up.

I was like not okay. Took all my clothes off. Matt like is opening the door. You have like tums, you were giving me Sprite Matt like is opening the door. You have like Tums. You were giving me Sprite like you were trying so hard to take care of me and then at one point you're like You are like I am NOT I literally looked like a naked mole rat No, you were just you were completely in the nude going back and forth from the chair To the toilet and I was

like wow okay I didn't know I was getting a show tonight but look like it broke my heart that the tums weren't working and then your excedrin migraine wasn't working um and it seemed like everything I did I brought you a sprite the sprite didn't work. You were trying so hard you were being so sweet you got me in my blanket you got me some fuzzy socks on you drew me a bath you were so sweet. Thank you I was trying. You were being so sweet, you got me on my blanket, you got me some fuzzy socks on, you drew me a bath. You were so sweet. Thank you, I was trying. You were really trying to take care of me, and you did. And so that was better, but you guys, the fact that you even found me attractive, I was like, you need to go to a mental institution.

My gosh, no, you look good now, you looked good then. And I think, did you end up taking UNISOM to help you fall asleep? Yeah, it could knock me out. Did that leave you kind of like woozy this morning? Were you out of it this morning? Yes, and also last night because that's the thing I was worried about. I was like my stomach's still gonna hurt and so then I woke up with a stomachache and I was so drowsy.

Okay, unisum does leave you feeling tired the next day, but like listen to me right now. If you are ever having trouble sleeping or insomnia, like I had insomnia a while unisum is what really helps yeah it works dude I don't think you get rim sleep with sleep aids like that oh really I think you only get like basically light sleep all night that worked for me man well that's stuff that stuff is powerful yeah it really knocks me out like immediately it doesn't take 30 minutes it's like five five. Yeah, it's good. So Yeah, I feel better now, but like wow get you a man that finds you smexy even when you're Got the shit

What are you I don't know we watched a really good movie this weekend you guys cuz we Arizona we never get rainy days and Sunday was such a cozy rainy day and so we watched the movie I've been wanting to watch for a long time Peanut Butter Falcon. Yes. It came out in 2019 so we are very late to this party but if you have not seen it it's on Amazon Prime it is one of my top five favorite movies now. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful story. It's so beautiful. Shia LaBeouf said it and it's about like these two men one of them has disabilities. Yeah one one person has Down Syndrome, the other guy is really depressed because he lost his brother. I don't want to spoil the movie, but

yeah, he's in a rough time, he's missing his brother, and like that way that they like established brotherhood between the two of them was so beautiful, and the fact that the movie is like loosely based on the life of the main character. Yeah, Zack. Zack. The actor that plays the main character, it's based on his life loosely. Oh, I loved that movie. I would want to kind of watch it again.

I never liked to rewatch. I'd watch it again with you. It was really sweet. And it got me to cry. It's cool too, because they're both running away. They're both runaways. They find each other. They need each other.

It's sad too, because you see in Zach's situation with him being a person with Down syndrome, he isn't able to live on his own. So he was, I guess, forced into living in a nursing home. I'm sure that happens. If they don't have like a ton of like options, if you're an adult with a disability, you might get forced to live in a nursing home. And that's what happened to him and he just wanted to break out and he finally did and he found Shia Labeouf. And he was 22 at the time. Yeah, he's a 22 year old man living in a nursing home

because of his disability. Anyway, the movie is so sweet. It made me cry when he's like, you can come to my birthday party. It was so sweet and it was just, oh, I love that movie. I really recommend it if you haven't seen it. Obviously it's not like a new release. For new releases, Lilo and Stitch, I thought it was cute.

Yeah, and you can also see the two different approaches to quote unquote, I guess, helping somebody with a disability, because Shia LaBeouf, he's kind of rough around the edges in the movie. He talks to Zach. Like he's an adult. Yeah, like an adult, but he's also kind of harsh sometimes,

but Zach doesn't care. Like they have this companionship and this love for each other. And that probably just made him feel like he accepted, you know? And then you see this other side, this woman comes into the scene who was working at the nursing home trying to find Zach and she's trying to like say, oh, you need a drink of water right now. Do this or...

Yeah, you can't do that. Well, did you notice the part? Sorry, I interrupted you. No, you're good. The part where she was like helping him put his shirt on. Yeah And he's like he can put his own shirt on he's 22 Yeah Like I feel like the way that he talked to Zach and the versus the way that she talked to Zach like she was obviously They both wanted to help him. Mm-hmm, but I think that his approach probably just gave him more humanity Yeah

And but you also see the two different approaches in that they both clearly care about him. They're trying to help him and there is not like one right way and one wrong way. Yeah. Because everything she was doing was just at the end of the day, it does benefit him. But then I did like to I loved the part, like you said, where Shia mentions that she doesn't have to help him. Yeah, his name was Tyler in the movie. Yeah.

Yeah. And it was really funny because at the end of the movie, Augie did wake up from his nap and there was like wrestling happening and Augie's personality, he kept saying, "'More dat, more dat.'" So after that, we had to show him some WWE, I don't know if that was like the best parenting move ever. He loved it.

Yeah, why does our one year old love WWE? He's such a rough and tumble kid. Our boys are our boys, you know, they they love dirt. They love getting wet. Like whenever they're playing with their friends, I've noticed that the girls tend to not want to get us wet. No, it's just like they want to get wet. They want to get dirty. Our boys like want to be wet and dirty and they'll have snot boogers coming out their nose and they don't care our backyard is almost done And now that we can use our backyard to release the hounds aka our sons. It's so nice Yes, it is. They like love it too. They prefer the backyard now to go into the park probably

Yeah, when when we're hanging out there at the end of the day, I'm like guys. Let's go to the park Griffin just wants to play in his water table and he I'm like dude we could go do swings We could go to the slide Nope He wants to play in his water table in our backyard because it used to be all dirt It was just run they literally just run that and then they also want us to chase them Which is you know, I they wear me out man. Like after after just a couple minutes of chasing them I gotta take a break

Especially when I put both kids on our little plastic, uh, little tykes car and push them around. That wears me out. I actually put a video out on Instagram of me pushing them on that thing. It's so much fun. It's a workout, man. Yeah, it is a workout. It's nice to be able to even just have a place, be like, go outside to eat that popsicle because like it just keeps the mess like less in our house. The, the least amount of time they can stay inside the house is probably better for the state of our house. I did catch Griffin though, ripping the leaves off of our ficus.

And after seeing the price tag of how much those ficus cost. Oh, you were gonna protect those ficus for the whole life of you. I was like, boy, do not be taking those leaves off the ficus. That's such a dad thing. Yeah, I mean, they,

I'm sure just a couple of leaves isn't gonna hurt it. But if he kept going and going, I mean, it could really damage the tree. You're like, dude, I'm gonna just a couple leaves isn't gonna hurt it, but if he kept going and going, I mean, it could really damage the tree. You're like, dude, I'm gonna start charging you per leaf. That's funny. Yeah, and I don't know what it is, but he has this obsession with playing with the rocks. So all the gravel, in Arizona, we have rock gardens,

if you aren't aware of how things work here. And our boys love to just grab the rocks out of rock gardens and move them over to places where they don't belong. Like our decking, the travertine, or putting them in the turf. And so I've been trying to teach him, hey, if you play with rocks, that's fine,

but just take them from the turf and put them back where the rocks belong. That's funny. Yeah, I mean, it's not gonna stay picture perfect for sure. Yeah. Well, I will say the one big mistake that I think I made with designing our backyard, because this was something that I did

over the course of months was picking out- You did a really good job. Thank you, thank you very much. There's a lot of decisions. Thank you. I'm stoked that it's like almost done, but I picked out decking, this like very white travertine and it's

beautiful but we fed the kids chick-fil-a out there the other day and the sauce got on the travertine and it like stained it so I'm kind of worried about how this white tile is going to get stained over time I'm sure it's going to get stained I don't know what we're going to do like I would usually cover it all in baking soda and vinegar? That's something they don't tell you. Yeah, I know. I wish somebody would have told me when we picked out the tile, hey, that's probably not the best idea with, you know, kids. Like, they were worried about slipping and so we got the kind that's like sand blasted so it has like a little bit more grip and it's like not slippery at all. I even tested it and it's not slippery but it does stain. I mean there's pros and cons

probably to any material you could have picked out though. True. Some get hotter than others, some get slippery, some stain, some just don't look as good. What is going to be fun though is I think we should probably purchase some sort of blow up bounce house or slide or something because now with all the extra space in our backyard being almost done. Oh, we need it. We could have awesome parties for kids. I want one of those play small ones.

They're like so nice. They have blow up obstacle courses. Oh, cool. That are like epic. Blow up obstacle courses. Yes, they're really cool. You'd have to show me a picture of the play small stuff. They're really bougie, I'll show you.

Yeah, I think we need one of these now. We're gonna have so many fun parties. Speaking of parties, do we have an idea for Griffin's birthday? Because it's fast approaching. He keeps telling me he wants a soccer birthday party, so we're gonna do a soccer themed, yeah. That's so cute.

So this is like the Play Small obstacle course. Let me see it. Isn't that epic? I like it. So that'll be fun. What do you think about me getting a mom car? I know we have a lot of big purchases with the backyard and stuff.

I wanna hold off on the mom car. Cause my car's kind of small. Until potentially there's a baby number three in the picture. Because we have both of our cars paid off, which is so nice. And I don't wanna do like a car payment or anything like that, you know? Yeah, it's essentially free at this point. Yeah.

Because it's electric and it's paid off. Yeah but. But it is tempting when I see other people with those sliding doors. Honestly I feel like a minivan is like kind of where it's at. Really? So much space for the car seats, the sliding doors instead of the swinging them open. Would you go back though from electric to gas? No. So you'd want to

have an electric? I honestly when you wanted to get an electric car I was like oh my gosh what a waste of money that's so lame that's gonna be so inconvenient. No I I changed my mind on all of that it is the best car it drives so well I never have to get gas that's so convenient and it's never been a problem it's literally never been a problem. I think the only way that is a problem is if you're driving like hours and hours and hours. I mean even if you did have to drive an hour to work every day you'd be just fine. Oh totally. You're just fine. You were right about that one. You were really right about that. I love it. I feel really really safe in it which is the main thing

that I really like but sometimes I do it does feel like the walls are closing in in there with those big old car seats and all four of us in there And then if I have to squish in between the car seats, oh, that's spooky. My hips don't even fit Yeah, if you're confused about our vehicle, we have a Tesla Model Y. We only have two rows. Yes We have a Tesla Model Y has two rows. Beautiful car. Love the car But what somebody should have told me was to never set your hydro drug on top of the Tesla. Matt cracked the whole roof of the car. I was getting one of our kids out of their car seat and my metal clanky water bottle just literally tips over. That's it. Just tips over on top of the car, which it's all glass,

but it's like very hard, reinforced, durable glass. Well, not apparently that hard because you shattered it with your hydro drug and our front windshield also has a massive crack in it. So it's just like shattered glass all over our car right now. I mean, it's fine right now. It's okay. There's no glass shards anywhere, but we have to get that repaired. You got to get that repaired.

That is not a me. Yeah, that's a blue job. That's a blue job because the cars I can't handle. I cannot handle the cars, but I'm like, you gotta get that fixed so we can sell it to get a mom car. Oh, we're selling that car to get the mom car. Or maybe we should keep that one

and get rid of our other gas car. Oh, okay, that's what's gonna happen. Well, eventually. Okay, Abby. What? We have to talk about your viral Instagram reel. Oh my gosh. 48.8 million views at the time of looking at this.

If you haven't seen the video, Abby showed a transformation of her yiddies from before kids to after kids. Yiddies. And it is the craziest thing. It literally looks like Photoshop. I know, my brother, my own brother thought it was Photoshopped

and he saw me in all those stages. And what's crazy too, babe, is like, I've been married to you throughout all those stages and you showed me a picture of you. You forget. I think we were in Oregon at the time and you were wearing this workout set and this was just like I think that was right when you first got pregnant so they were just a little bit bigger than they were before pregnancy. Yeah now they're going. Babe they were they literally looked like. I lost my boobs you guys I actually had pretty good boobs before. They were straight-up triple D's

No, no, and they were perky. It's so round and full at the top now. They're just gone I mean that video that video is hilarious. I know honestly. I'm not like actually insecure about it or anything That's why I obviously made a video poking fun at it. It's just honestly. It's just amazing. It's impressive It's a good story to tell yeah, you know what's funny is that now there's like plastic surgeons stitching it. Are you serious? Yeah. And they're like, people keep damning it to me because they're really nice. But they're like, hey, by the way, did they have permission to use your video? And I'm like, no.

But what do you think I can do about it? Plastic surgery. So have you seen one of the videos of somebody reacting to it? Yeah, they're not like bad. What do they say? They're just like, yeah, unfortunately, like this is a thing that can happen. But there's a solution. And they, show the implant. It's impressive. My, the transformation they made was, was incredible. Honestly, I call them my travel size boobs right now. They're like three ounces or less and they're really handy. They're really, they're great for on

the go. They are amazing. They fit, they fit in a carry-on nicely. Aren't they, aren't they so much more comfortable though for working out? Oh yeah, laying on, sleeping on my stomach, so comfy. Working out, great. So you sleep on your stomach. Sometimes I don't even wear bras anymore. It's a really freeing, it's a freeing time for me. Is this too much to say? No, that's okay. I mean, you can- No, the thing I'm about to say. What are you gonna say? Can you read my mind right now? Oh, um. Okay. There's something that did change about my breast for the better after breastfeeding. Okay. And that is the nipple. They look better now.

They look great. I'm a fan. I'm a huge fan. They're just always pointy. 10 out of 10. This is getting to be TMI, but that wasnyness, it wasn't all like perceived, like not like bad things happening to them. There are some perks. Now they're always pointy. Is that too far to say? No, you're good. Okay, so yeah, I mean I went from literally didn't not fitting in triple D bras, like not fitting at all at the peak of breastfeeding to I haven't gotten sized but I feel like

they're probably like bees but that's okay and you're still super smoking hot you're still a babe. If I go and get these fixed one day I don't want to hear nothing about it I'm prepping everyone because I just know that it's gonna be really hard for everyone that has no part of my personal life to just like wrap their head around me putting implants in my body. Didn't you say that to your dad? Yeah, I had to prep my father. I was like, dad, I don't want to make this uncomfortable for you,

but I'm just gonna plant this seed right now for you so you can start processing that, take that to therapy, whatever you gotta do. I will probably be getting my boobs done one day. And he was like, no, you know, like any dad probably should say. I mean, what is he supposed to say? Yeah, I don't know what the right response is there I also was like this video has gone crazy I was like dad I gotta show it to you and I like sat next to him he was like wow yeah the best part uncomfortable for him the best part is your brother actually really close with my dad so I mean if

you're not very close to your dad then you probably won't want to do jokes like that I think you're freaking hilarious you do I do I think you're not very close to your dad, then you probably won't want to do jokes like that. I think you're freaking hilarious. You do? I do. Thanks. I think you're really funny. Yeah. You're a funny person.

I love you. I love you too. I feel so in love with you. I feel so in love with you too. I really do. I feel like, I feel like your life is so good right now. I know. And I think it's gonna just keep going, going up and up.

Do you ever get that fear when like life is really, really good? Do you get like a little scared? You're like, okay, Sammy's gonna knock me on my cheek. Yes. No no I know exactly what you're talking about. I don't want to have that. I don't want that either. I think I need to bring that up in therapy honestly. You should yeah that's a good idea. Because sometimes I catch myself I'm like life is really good right now. That's not a good way to be. Let's not think like that. Let's not think like that but I think it's good to call it out and so you can work through it. Yeah let's think positive thoughts. I'm gonna bring that up in therapy next time. Good idea, I like that. Good chat. All right, well thank you everybody for tuning in again for the unplanned podcast. This was fun, we haven't done like a chat like this

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to those people, like attached to that that podcast that time for me is so like It's like my recharge time. Yeah, it's an honor if we're that part of your life like if we're your recharge disconnect comfort time I Don't take that lightly. I just really know that it's an honor. Thank you for being here. We'll see in the next episode So dudes