The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Never Have I Ever w/ My Parents *TEA SPILLED*

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

Matt’s parents are BACK and we made a questionable decision: play 'Never Have I Ever' together. We cover sexting, stalking an ex, reading each other’s private diaries, parenting fails, marriage boundaries, and the generational differences we did NOT see coming. This episode is sponsored by Little Spoon, UpWork, Olipop, Zocdoc & Nutrafol. Little Spoon: Give them meals + snacks that are actually right for where kids are developmentally—balanced, intentional and made to support real growth. Go to littlespoon.com/UNPLANNED30 and enter code UNPLANNED30 for 30% off your first order. UpWork: Visit https://Upwork.com right now and post your job for free Olipop: Buy any 2 cans of Olipop in store, and we'll pay you back for one Works on any flavor, any retailer https://drinkolipop.com/UNPLANNED Zocdoc: Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to https://Zocdoc.com/UNPLANNED to find and instantly book a doctor you love today. Nutrafol: For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you visit https://Nutrafol.com and enter promo code UNPLANNEDPOD Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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on their own terms. Never have I ever stalked someone on social media. I've stalked someone driving. Are you serious? You guys go ahead with the question. No, I got it. No boy about this. No, we're stopping right here.

Wait, we're letting trees of talk. Never have I ever found what of my significant others' friends attracted. I promise you, I've never been attracted to your friends. That's not the question. Never have I ever sexted. I don't want that on the internet. I don't either. Mom, you've never taken like an artistic photo of dad with his clothes off?

No. No, thank you. Never. have I ever lied while playing this game? Maybe. What's up, dudes? Hey, welcome back to Unplan. Woo!

Yay! Today, we have my parents joining us for a fun game of Never Have I Ever. Give it up for John and Teresa. They're always such good sports. Yes. Thank you. Yeah, you know, Abby's parents would never do this. They would never.

I feel like you could convince my mom, but my dad, you'd have to drag me. dead body in here. I even offered to buy him beer and he said no. He said no. I think that means we're stupid. You guys are fan favorites. Everybody was begging for you back in the comments of our last episodes. We're super honored to have you both here.

And I can't believe this is our fifth time playing Never Have I Ever with you guys. We played this four times in our main YouTube channel. First, Never Have I Ever is never have I ever kept an ornament from my ex. Oh, my God. That's mean. You're just leaving this. One. I've never.

I've never, ever, ever kept an ornament. My mom from an ex. Ornaments used to be important. She still talks about you. Stop! You've got to beat that. Oh, that's so funny. We'll have to take out the name of my mom's ex.

That's so funny. No, because I remember I distinctly have memories of being a kid and putting ornaments on the Christmas channel. Like, who's shton? Yeah, I know. We did not put that. on the tree. It was just in the box. Okay, just in the box. That it was written on the box, right. Dad, you're actually hilarious for like being so chill with that. Honestly, I think that's really

it was a dog. It was a little dog. That is too funny. Mom, you're a little back. I love you guys. Okay, next we have never have I ever, my lord, we have really frontloaded these to be spicy. Never have I ever regretted having kids. Oh my goodness. Should we even answer that? That's like that's so, that's so. Well, I'm okay answering. I'm okay. it. Okay. I guess you're the one that's not okay. Wow. Okay. I guess depending on your answer. You just said a lot there. Okay. Three, two, one. I've never. No. Okay. I feel like I definitely in the newborn phase though, I was like, what the hell did we do? No, I think that makes sense. Like you have a new baby that's screaming all the time. You're like, what have we done? But it's not like regret. You're just like, whoa. You just really dove into this.

Yeah. But I think it's good to be honest about that because I feel like people in the newborn stage, I just we just talked to some people in the newborn stage the other day and I could tell that they were like not doing good. Yeah. And I just felt bad for them. But it's just like a really dark period that you get through, you know? And you look back on it with fondness. It's not like it's like, oh, that was just all that.

I don't know if I look back on it with fondness. I was glad we got through. I'm glad our marriage survived. I think it depends on a person. I think fortunately, Teresa was able to carry a lot of weight and I was able to do my work. Was that a weight joke? Or was that? Oh my God. She took that ownership on and was able to do it.

But there's some people just can't do it. And she was able to do that. And we did notice that once Caleb, the oldest one started getting to the point where he was wanting all kinds of attention. Then Matt came along and they started playing each other. And your boys are doing the same thing. It really takes off a lot of responsibility, well, not responsibility. Just allows them to play together, have a lot of fun. It is funny how like the oldest and like middle child or whatever, like how they or yeah, like first kid and second kid, how they take on certain.

attributes and stuff, because you've said that even in our kids, it's like you're with me and my older brother, right? Yeah. That's wild. It's almost exactly. And that's why dad's been suggesting we bring on this guy who wrote a book called birth order. Oh, yeah. Kevin Lehman. Kevin. Is it Lehman or Lehman? Lehman? At least you say Lehman. Because it's a whole book about how, you know, like what attributes kids take on. There's something to that. There really is. He's a best seller. Yeah. That's wild. But it's a blessing that Caleb and Griffin were so sweet. and calm and good to their little brothers, because we've seen differently.

Yeah. We're the oldest. So Kevin or father, listening to this. We need to have you on this show. Never have I ever wish to be single for one day. Just one day. Three, two, one.

I have. Oh, are you? Oh, you've never? Just the dudes? Just the guys? No, because I feel like I can, if I'm like, I need a little space, I feel like in a relationship married, I can be like, I can say that and I can have that space.

It's not like I need to be single to get that. Exactly. I agree. I like the security of having you. Oh, me too, of course. But apparently, like a break. It's about the idea. It's about the thought.

Oh, it's a thought. We're not saying that we actually want. You've never thought of something stupid before. What was the question? What was the question? Never have I ever wished to be single for a day? Wished. Yeah, wished.

It's a thought. It's literally a thought. It's a fleeting thought. Remember how we talk to Dr. Arthur? Hey, your wishes could come true, buddy. This is Cinderella here. Our emotions are liars. They can be liars.

They're not always lying to us, but they're supposed to keep us safe. So if marriage gets really hard, sometimes your brain will be like, oh man, I just wish I'd be single for a day and just like, what? And then like, you know, you gotta use your prefrontal cortex.

I think it's the ADHD that Matt and I both have. We think we want something, but we don't really want it. You kind of blame everything on that. Yeah, but it's true. It's true. So the movie, the notebook, helps me to kind of reflect on my life. And it's like, that's really kind of hits home with me.

It's like, Matt with Up. The movie. I don't watch Up with you sometimes. It kind of makes me a comfy when you say this, but you're like, I'd rather be with, I'd rather be with your mom than anybody else. I'd rather fight with your mom than sleep with another woman. Yeah. You've said that.

Something like that's from the movie, right? Yeah. Yeah. The guy in the movie says that. Yeah. Gosling, is that his name? Yeah. Ryan Gosling.

Yeah. I just watched the movie with him yesterday on the plane. He's cute. Totally different vibe. Fall guy. It's actually really. good. I need to finish the movie. It's about his, he's like a stunt performer and then it's like a little rom-com, like romance going on. I don't know why I've seen that movie. I want to watch. I need to finish

it. When I saw you, you were watching a rom-com by yourself. I thought it was a stunt man movie and apparently I got tricked into watching rom-com. Okay. Never have I ever seriously considered divorce and crap. We already talked about this. We have. I guess some of these are throwbacks. Some of these are coming back. I think we all said. Are these questions that came in from the field recently? The field. Some of these are throwbacks. We did some of these are throwbacks. Some of these are bringbacks.

I think is that one. Maybe your answer has changed. Yeah, maybe your answer is changed. There's seasons, right? Never have I ever thought about getting a divorce. Three, two, one. I have. That is not what you read the first time.

No, it's, we're changed. I change it. Oh, okay, because you said seriously thought. Yeah, that's why one you did. I change it up. I change it up. I mean like for one minute. Yeah.

Just one minute. I mean, I'm saying not even a day. I only thought about it for one second. So the fact you said minute is kind of... The most seriously I thought about it was before we got married. No way. So it's not divorced then, but I thought about... Oh, it was before we got married.

It was like cold feet. I thought about when we were engaged. I thought about leaving you. Oh, yeah. You knew that. I knew that, yeah. I was at the altar and I was like, oh my God. My buddies were like, come on John.

You can run now. You wouldn't even look at me at the altar. No. You wouldn't even look. Wait, John, wouldn't look at you on the altar. No. He was afraid he'd start. sobbing. Oh, no way. I'm such a softie. I just can't hold my emotions. That's something I did not inherit

from you. I'm like, I have like no motion like mom. It's been rare. Like I finally, in me, me on antidepressants though, I was like, whoa, I literally have none emotions at all. But now that I'm off of those, it's kind of nice to, I cried the other day. Really? I cried, yeah. We started Griffin up for a pre-k. I teared up thinking about Griffin going to pre-k. I teared up watching movie up. I had so much fun with that. your boys this week. Oh, yeah. It's so much fun.

Yeah, my parents have been in town this week. We were out of town for an interview with a special guest on the show on our podcast. And a marriage conference. And a marriage conference. So thank you guys for watching our kids while we were gone. You're so welcome. Yeah, so I had to take a shower. Teresa was doing something with her curling hour.

So I put something on TV for the boys. And it came out and Griffin had his arm around his little brother. It was so cute. They sent a picture to. Their best buddies were so. So cute. We're so lucky that they get along together so well. It's so fun to see that.

Never have I ever sexted. So that's where you send like a spicy photo over the text messages. Okay. Three, two, one. I have. You guys have never done that. No, no. I guess that's a young person.

I don't think you two are both yes. Abby is not enough of a side. We're both. I'm too scared. No, I wouldn't. No. Yeah. No, I don't want that on the internet.

I don't either. Someone might throw up. I think that's what that is. Maybe I was younger, but no. Yeah, no. Even when we were younger, people had phones, you know, but we were like, oh, no way. What about a Polaroid? Oh, a Polaroid, yeah.

You guys have never taken, Mom, you've never taken like an artistic photo of dad with his clothes off? No. No, thank you. I have not. Okay, but Matt, this doesn't necessarily mean photo. Oh, yeah. Oh, wait, yeah. Oh, could be something spicy.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, why are you worse? Just like spamming eggplant emojis. You know, like, you guys even know what that is. No, what is eggplant? People, you don't like, an eggplant looks like the male privates. Okay. Oh, that's not what necessary.

I can't believe I just explained that. Oh, like a peach. Stop. The peach is the butt. Stop. Eggplant is the. Charities are. The boobs, yeah.

Okay. So, wait a minute. So after a clarification of what this is. I think we said spicy things, but incognito. We don't like say it. Even texted verbal spicy things. I sent Abby. I text her DTF all the time.

Oh, my gosh. Do you know what mom's phone comes up when I sent her a text or calls? What is it? It says stud. Oh, that's right. She doesn't change it. She's had that on her phone. Yeah, she's always put that in there.

Really? So, yeah, one of our friends said, oh, my gosh, somebody named Stud has sent you a text. That's my husband. No, hot stud. No, dad's name on your phone has been hot stud for years. Just stud. Just stud. Mine's hot stuff.

No, it was hot stud when I was like a six-year-old. I swear. Well, I've gotten older, so just stud. I had to take the hot off. Yeah, I was just hot. Abby's pretty little lady, and then my phone knows that she's my wife, so I'll be like, call wife, and it'll be like, calling pretty little lady with heart-shaped emoji. That's cute.

Cute. Yeah, it's been that way since high school. Trisa. Josh has you done there is something kind of funny. What's Josh have? T-S-A. T-S-A. Yeah.

That's not very funny. I think it's easy. Okay. Never have I ever vented about my partner to someone in this family. I think this might have happened to me today. I'm sorry.

It's called therapy. Okay. Three, two, one. I have. I have. I have.

I think we've all done that. I think your parents are probably the safest people I could vent to about you. Honestly. They know. They know. And I also know

that they're always going to be on your team. So it's like a safe people No, Abby wanted me to play this prank on you, mom, where I called you called you called you up. You put it in, quick on me all the time. Oh, can I explain it to her? Yeah, so the prank is, like, he would call you and start complaining about me. Abby's been, like, so lazy recently.

Oh, my, I would not go along with that. Yeah. No, I don't think you would. But, like, this husband did it to his mom. And she's like, I think you need a reality check. She was like, she, like, went off on her. Oh, my God. It was so funny.

Yeah. So, we should have done that to my mom. That would have been really funny. No, do something to your. dad say what you did to me oh my gosh we tell the story of what we did in universal in amusement park so we went to epic so my christmas gift to my brother and my dad's which i need to put the tic tic tics out still but i surprise them with tickets to universal studios we went to the epic universe the brand new park and while we were there we're like what's some way we can like play a joke

my mom why is it always me just because i don't know she's fun it's fun it's not fun you're an easy target you have three boys that's what's going to happen and we're like wait a minute we could just AI a woman that's like talking to our dad. Not a normal woman. And make it, and make her look like kind of pretty. And then I said like have it have her wearing like a low cut top. So I said so I said. Make it tighter. No, we need to. I'll have to send Danilo who's editing our podcast as the image.

Because it was it looked very realistic. And I said and my mom believed it. So we convinced. I did. I did. But I, I did believe it. And I didn't think AI. Yeah. Why would you not believe that? Matt is the better question. When I zoomed in, not her, but John and Josh did not look like themselves. I was like, something is off here. I couldn't. I'm looking down at my phone like this. And he puts the girl's picture in here like I'm looking down at her blouse.

But I was looking at my phone. So when he said it, it's like looking straight down her blouse. That's funny. Oh, here's the picture. This is so funny, you guys. No, she looks totally real. They're going to just put it on. I'm going to say, I'm sending it over now so I don't forget.

Oh, I got it. She did look real. But like I said, she looked real. It wasn't hoochy enough that you would think it was like. No, but I've seen John the side of John for 36 years. And I was like, that is not John. So this is the lady right here that I, that I texted my mom. She looks like she could be our age.

Yeah. And I was like, mom, do you know this woman? Like dad's been talking to her for a little bit. And I'm like, is it the hairdresser? And he, and she said this lady's name. And we were like, oh, yeah, it's her. Like, I'm pretty sure that's what she said her name was. And we kept it going for like a few texts.

and then we told her. You didn't tell me. Who told you? No, I told you as a prank. I thought dad did. I told you was a prank. Okay. Yeah.

All right. I think, yeah, you told her. I was really funny. I'm the only one working trying to make a living at work. Sorry. You four are galavany around. I was creating content at Universal Studios. That was very hard work now.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. And that was my Christmas gift, right? That was her Christmas. Did we get my mom a Christmas gift? We did. Okay. Remember?

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Oh my God. Why are they all sassy? I didn't come up with this. This is MR. producer. She loves when you call her out. Before, during or after. What?

Before during the gas. I'm going to say during. I'm going to say during. Three, two, one. During? No, not during you. Not during? Yes.

Not during. I never pass gas during afterwards. I think you have. You pass gas all the time. You're going to hold a paddle sideways. I may have. I may have. I don't think I have.

You're going to say yes. We both have. And it's actually, now it's like a turn on. I don't know why. John, I know you have. They call it a brownout. We're not saying. We're not the same.

It's a brown out. It's called brownout. I've never heard of that. It's not going number two. It's just gas. Just a little gas. You did guess. Yes.

You have. Yes, you have. You do it every hour. What do you mean? I would never do that. Okay. Dad, you're a liar. You are.

You fart so much. The reason that me and Caleb fart so much is because of you. Exactly. Okay. I had to buy. I'm going to buy on the podcast? B-O. I bought Bino because of you, Dad.

He hasn't. Oh, Griffith was asking about that. He was asking about some time. No, no, no. This is what happened this morning. He was like, Griffin's like, what is this? I said, it's for daddy because he toot so much. He's like, why?

I said, this will make him not to. He says, no, I want him to choose. He was like genuinely so sad. No, because when I fart, our kids laugh so hard every time. Every time. Every time. Every time. I'm like, I go, you're lucky you're boys. And I go, oh, tootie, and they go, they just crack up.

And then they both do it now. He toot so much. Remember he had to get a special seat. for his car. Gosh, that's disgusting. Like the coal. Yeah. Oh, I got to change that out.

I feel weird whenever I'm driving your car. No, I moved your fart pad to the side down when I drive your car. I don't want to sit on the hat. What is it supposed to do? Disciate the smell? It's charcoal. It's supposed to absorb the odor. It's actually for that?

Yes. Okay. Yes. The odor of bar seat. I don't need to know how this is possible. Maybe this is an old person thing. So you guys might have to enlighten me. Never have I ever fallen asleep during intimacy?

How is that even possible? How do you fall asleep? As that words. Yeah, afterwards, of course, but during? Yeah, it's during. Three, two, one. I've never. Never during afterwards.

Is that a real thing? Oh, yeah, I think so. Maybe if you're like in a nursing home. I heard nursing homes are like, SDDs are like a problem. I got a chance. Yeah. Oh my God.

Dad. But like, you're wild, dad. But yeah. I got hope. There's hope for me. Are you weird? You are so weird. He falls asleep half of a second after.

Okay, now we have, never have I ever forgotten my anniversary. Three, two, one. Never. Oh, good. We're all great in here. Yeah, but just wait to your 20, 30. Oh, yeah. It gets.

I can't believe you guys been married for over 30 years. Yeah. I love holidays, so I just, I don't think. No, I love holidays. is putting people's birthdays on my phone because I never know when people's birthdays are. You know who's the king of that is your dad. My dad's really good at that. Yeah, why did you get so into birthdays dad?

Well, it's because it's easy to put on the calendar. If you have somebody's name and information, address, all the stuff, put their birthday down and it'll remind you their birthday and you could set it up so it gives you a reminder a week before. You're always the first one to say like, hey, tell your great aunt, Cindy, happy birthday. Yeah. And Facebook, too. Great aunts. She's great aunt.

Did you know that? Facebook tells you all the birthdays are coming up for that month? Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't even know. We don't use Facebook anymore, Dad. Facebook Marketplace, you don't buy anything?

No, I don't, yeah. That's where I get on my clothes. Now you did have... Your underwear? You did? Do you post on Facebook or not? Okay, you still do. We do post on Facebook.

Okay. We're just reposting everything to Facebook. Matt's gonna build out his garage and I was sending him Facebook marketplace information. Never have I ever found what of my significant others' friends attractive. So like it's your spouse is a friend of your spouse. You've never found. found a friend of your spouse attractive. Three, two, one.

Yeah, I'm alive. You've never? You've never. I have the hottest of them all. Come on. Wow. I'm actually so serious about that. There's so much better looking at that. I'm so serious about that.

I can name you five guys right now, better looking at me right now. You ready? What Trisa put down? Okay. Of your friends? Oh, I was going to say celebrities. Yeah, I mean, it's a celebrity.

I was about to say Michael B. Jordan. I was about to say Michael B. Jordan. Are you friends with Michael B. be Jordan. Chris Hemsworth. Never seen you. Hang out with him. And Troy Bolton.

Who plays Troy Bolton again? My answer may be different if that was the case. Okay. Okay. If I was friends with Michael B. Jordan though, you would say... No, Matt, I promise you. You'd be tempted. You'd be tempted if my friend was Michael B. Jordan.

This is not the question. Okay. Fine. I would be offended if you said never with my friends. Oh my gosh. My friends are very attractive. If I said, if I found none of your friends attractive, you'd be offended. Yes.

They're all so good looking. Literally, I have some friends that are like single and I'm like, Matt, say right now that they're hot. And he's like, I don't really too. Wait, you have done that. Wait, you have done that a lot. And it actually bothers me because I'm like, this is something that we can agree on. Especially the single one.

Like, if someone's married, you usually don't like care if I say they're traveling or not. But if it's someone that's single, it makes you mad that they're sick. Yeah, like, just admit they should not be single. They are a catch. Yeah. And then you're like, I'm like, I've never seen you do that. Well, that's probably good, I guess. No, because then I think he's lying to me.

Because I'm like, they are. so attractive. No, no. Truth's got a mile long of my friends. Not friends. Just a neighborhood alone. Are you thinking of specific friends you can, don't name? No. No. Not of your friends now. I just like to have my conversation with Abby about attractive people because then that makes me feel like I'm not crazy. I'm like, we all know that that like that person was like a

good looking person. Right. I think it's crazy if you can't admit that other people are good looking. Yeah. But I'm being honest when I say that I've never been attracted to your friends. Well, I'm fed. Now I'm offended. I'm mad. None of his reasons. I'm angry. You're not attracted to my groomsman, Garrett and Brendan. How dare you? I love your groomsman, Garrett and Brendan. I appreciate Garrett and Brennan even more because I said recently that you mega scored with me.

I did. And I was like, thanks guys. They said that. Garrett and Brendan said that. Okay, good. That's good. I've had so many people that are like, Matt, just so you know, you really got luckies. So don't ever do anything stupid.

That's so nice. Never have I ever pretended. I didn't see someone so I wouldn't. have had to talk to them. Oh, that's a good one. Three, two, one. I have. I hate that I've done that too.

Matt, you never do that though. I'm usually the person that wants to go say hi to them, but every once in a while there'll be somebody that I'm just like, oh, God, they can't see me right now. Like, I don't know why. I'm mostly thinking of, like, if you have just, like, spent a long time talking to someone, and then you walk away,

and then you see them again, you're like, I can't reopen this. Yeah. And so then I just pretend not to see them the second time. That is weird. Or, like, I've been a story. and I'm in a hurry. Like, I'm late for something else.

I'm kind of a time Nazi. I mean, I just think it's respectful. So anyway, I know that person's going to talk forever. So I'm just like, oh my gosh, I'm going to go down this aisle because I know they're like a 20-minute talker. It would be rude just to go, hi, bye, you know. If I saw someone in Arizona, I would almost certainly say hi just because it happened so infrequently.

But if it was in Quincy, I would have maybe not said hi a couple times. This one's pretty good. This is... I feel like, John, you also are one to always say something, too, though. I usually say hi, but like Teresa said, like one percent of the time. Sometimes you see somebody and is like, oh, my gosh, I don't have 10 minutes to talk to them.

I got to go. And it would be rude to be a five second thing. I'd rather be better now. Also, you guys are both so chatty too. When you guys are on a walk and you see a random person, do you go, hello, how's it going? Do you do any of those? She teases me.

He stops to talk to everybody. I'm like, we're on a walk. I say hi, good to see you and keep going. I'm literally training my brain right. now just to go hi when i'm like running yeah sometimes i try to like say a full sentence i'm like what am i doing right now i need i'm running i know we're trying to get this minimum exercise in our neighborhood that when i go on walks i always see him and he's usually eating a poxicle just by himself wait really i love it that's so sweet i'm like that's just self-care right there

i gotta start doing that never have i ever stalked someone on social media so hard i almost liked something of theirs three two one i have oh you guys have never done that i think that's a young person thing. You guys have never gone on someone social media. Like I've stalked someone driving. Wait, what do you mean? See, I think it's. You stalked someone driving?

Before we were married. Wait, what is that? What do you, what do you talking about? I mean, like, go, you know, driving. Are you serious? You stop someone driving in your car? You guys go ahead with the question. No, I got it.

No, we're stopping right here. We're letting Teresa talk. She's back her son of a hole. That's actually, I think that's a young person thing. No, no. No, no. No. No.

deep. I was crazy. I don't even see your top of my head. She's so deep and out of all. I want to know who this was now. You need a ladder? Wait. The Christmas ornament person. Oh my gosh. Because you broke up and you wanted to see what they were up to. Oh my gosh. That's so funny.

Oh my gosh. How many times? Just once. Okay. Just once. I was woo. Well, that is like, no, that's the thing. But like with exes mom, like people will do that.

Stock and like really see. No, one time. I'm not that crazy. I've kind of been curious of an old girlfriend that what she's doing, but I don't want to I've even said to you like, I'd like with you sitting there just to know if they're married, if they have kids.

I mean, you know what I mean. I'd be fine with that. I'm not. Give his ornament back. Oh, shoot. We need to put that ornament up in the studio. I think we should bring that. We should bring that.

That would be really funny. I can't think of anyone in particular. If we put the ornament on. No, I would put it on my. That would be fun. Yeah, bring it out the head. And it's the only, what if we get it, like, replicate it? So we can just have it, like, covering the tree.

I'm sorry, that's so bad. We should have our video of our engagement turn into some type of digital thing and send it to you. And you can have, like, what's creepy now, you guys is, like, with AI, you could probably do so much. Like, you could probably make it show. You could enhance it. You could also make it show. You could have it, like, add a backtrack. Let's do that.

Let's do that. And you could be like add B roll. So it could be like make a B roll that looks like it was made from that time period. Oh my God. That would be great. Okay. That's our professional shots of the church or whatever. Makes you look better.

Yeah. Seriously. No, you guys looked great. No. You still do look amazing. But looking at old photos when you like, I was like model. You guys look so much better than you do. Not what I'm saying.

Back of the day. Not what I'm saying. Never have I ever stalked in. X online. Okay, that's interesting. Now that, I feel like that's a lame question though, because we don't have, like, we would be the ones to do that. No, she's like, I've done it literally in person. Driven.

That's it. I guess three, two, one. I've, I've never, because we don't have X's. Have you stopped? Have you looked at it? Just looked at, I guess you could say I have. I looked at it.

I got Facebook. Because you've went on and looked at an X's Facebook. I've never with this Facebook. But I'm, we're so old. Nobody posed that stuff. Yeah, it's like my profile. It's like their profile picture. Or, you know, older.

She's a hairdresser. I have done it for people that I went on dates with. I still do with you. I still do. I'm so curious. Wait, yeah. No, we both. We've done that in front of each other.

We're like, what's that person up to? Yeah. Let's go check him out. Yeah. Especially, I think it's funny because Abby's like, I never dated anybody else. And then I come to find out, I'm like, you guys spooned on the couch and you said you never dated? Like, I didn't know that was a category.

That, like, literally unerced Matt. He was like, what did it feel like cuddling with another guy on the couch? Her another man. have cuddled, Dad. I was like, Matt. I had to go to therapy about that. So you weren't dating, but you did that. Yeah.

But what's that called? We went on dates. It's called going on dates. We never called to the boyfriend and girlfriend. I thought that was like you're dating that dude, you know? Like. I bet if you were to ask these people if they dated me, they would say no. Yeah.

They slap you on the butt cheeks. I doubt that. Oh my gosh. I really highly doubt that. All right. Well, okay. Go into therapy for that. We ran into.

dad's girlfriend, her ex. Oh, you're and I were dating. Yeah, we were dating and she showed up at a party. I didn't think she looked that great. I just being nice, I said, oh, you look great. Just to have some type of comment. You don't say that. She was so mad at me the rest of the night.

Who says that? That wasn't a good call, John. See? But I was going to be nice. You look great. Because I was thinking just the opposite. I didn't think she looked. She was a hairdresser.

She changed her hair quite a bit. And that night I saw her hair did not look. good to me and I just I'm like you just say nice seeing you not you look great okay if I ever do it again how long did you date her off and on for but two years oh yeah that's not good no and I knew it was the most serious person he did she look did she look did she actually look great though no he said no okay I was just so he's lying I was trying to be friendly but I didn't know that that's messy I didn't know that at the party I'm standing there and he's like you look great I'm like okay that was that for me

Nope. See, Matt does that too, though. He puts his foot in his mouth sometimes. And it's like, you know that they're like, they're good. We're just dumb. I got it. I get it from my dad. And I'm like, put it on me.

I'm okay. Okay. We have never have I ever Googled myself. Three, two, one. I have. It's my worst fear, but. I have you. You haven't?

No. You've never Googled. I've asked chat GPT. What can you tell me about me? It actually says some good things. That's so weird. It's not weird? It's just.

telling you the things you've asked questions about. It says, I like my Bible study, like working out. I like my job. That's not Googling yourself. That's not Google. That's great. Like, Chatty has like personal insight on you. Right.

Google. There's so many John Howers. It's like your second. Yeah, that's hard with the name like John Howard. John Howard is like, you know, three thousand John Hours. We're not famous like them. You guys like different up. I used to look it up just out of curiosity and I would see me.

It was all the pictures of me being a child actor from like being in the sound of music. Seriously. There's pictures of me. So if you, like 10 years ago, if you would have Googled Matt Howard Muni or Matthew Howard or Matthew Howard St. Louis. Okay, who's putting all that? Well, it was all the theaters because like we sign releases for them to put our faces up on the theater website. And then the news would cover the local professional shows.

So then I would look back and be like, man, I really peaked early. Like I'd be like, I was so much more like successful as a 12 year old Kurt Von Trapp. I made three thousand. I made $3,000. That was a lot, though. Which was a lot of our kid. Was it actually $3,000? Yes, at the Muni, I think.

And we just put that in my savings? Yes. For college? Yeah. I guess I did make that. College account. But then the stage of St. Look, am I going to get sued for saying this?

But then we did the smaller professional theater in St. Louis that didn't have as much budget. And then it was 300 bucks, but we did like 40 shows. Oh my gosh. So it was like, if you're doing the math, that's like, 42 shows in a month. I was getting paid a penny an hour. Seriously. 42 shows in a month. Yes. And you were driving, and you drove me to it all. How much were the tickets? There were a lot.

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I don't believe that. I've read Abby's private diary, and you've read my private diary. Yeah. We've read each other's. I don't know where a private diary is. Like a journal where you like, right? Journal, I don't. But have you read?

She's trying to read mine. It's not going to be found. You've never read his messages? Do you mean like his text messages? Yeah. Oh, text messages or like a journal? Private messages. You've never read Mom's Journal and you have, and you know about it?

Yeah. You've never done that? I'm pretty. boring, I guess. Well, you're pretty much an open book, and I'm a open book. I guess we're holding secrets. But you see my text because they show up on my iPad. But I didn't know what private messages mean.

MacBoo. What's private messages? Just any message that you're not a part of? Oh, I see. Yeah. Like, when you're sending messages up your private. I'm in a group called Phospa and I'm meeting this guy Bill at FOSPA and there's a bar there.

And he sends a text. He goes, I said, hey, I'm running late. Bill. I'll be there shortly and he goes, oh, okay, I'll wait for you at the bar with the girls. Well, she's at home using our computer, which gets the messages, it pops up. His text. He's talking about his wife and then this girl, Danielle, who's also in the group. I'll be at the bar with the girls.

With the girls. And you see the message? That's when I'm working and it comes up. Didn't you call it dad? You're like, what the hell? Yeah. So I come home and she goes, hey, I saw your text from Bill. It's like, Bill, Bill, but she knows Bill.

She knows Bill's wife. Who are the girls? Who are the girls? Yeah. He said that he'll meet you at the bar at the girls. He'll, yeah, his wife and Danielle, she's one of the ladies in our executive board. And so I was like, and she was just teasing me about it. Wouldn't you think?

But then I told Bill, he thought it was so funny. Yeah. That's actually really funny. Yeah. Yeah. I've read Matt's journal. He's read my journal. Yeah, we've done that, yeah.

I know everything about you. You do. I mean, you know everything about me. True. So you didn't want somebody. You should lock it or put it somewhere where you wouldn't want. I don't think. there's anything that I'd be like I don't want you to read that I warned you sometimes like if I was

really mad at you I was like hey by the way if you read this I've spread some angry journal entries I'm like hey by the way it's not nice and you're like I want to read it I don't know why you like it actually it really helps me understand you like I feel like it like reading your your personal diary helps me like completely understand your brain and then everything makes sense I'm like of course she was upset you know because like if you're upset you come out of a good angle it It helps me under, yeah, because there's all this stuff going on in here that I just don't know about. Yeah. But I don't care.

When I say private, I mean, like, I didn't write it for his eyes, but it's fine if he reads it. Yeah. Never have I ever told the kids not to tell mom or dad. Three, two, one. I have. See, we have little kids, though. Okay. What's the story?

Dad's 40th surprise party. Oh, yeah. I knew you couldn't keep it in. Caleb knew. But did I still spoil it? No, you found out like a day before something. Also, why would you tell your five-year-old that? That's pretty.

I didn't tell you. I think we were going there to decorate or, I don't know. You know, we did a lot of decorating. Because like our kids, yeah, we've told our kids things and they just tell everybody, you know. Yeah. They don't know the concept of secret. They know. Yeah, it is good.

Little kids should never have secrets. Yeah. And mine was when they were little. Never did ask questions about things. And Matt was asked all kinds of questions about sex. and all kinds of Easter bunny, Christmas. I nailed you on the Easter bunny.

I was like, Dad, you're a liar. Oh, you saw stuff in the car, right? That was Caleb. I just fit. We had a heated debate in the second grade lunchroom. Matt, people might be listening. I guess I probably shouldn't be listening to it. Yeah, this is not appropriate for children.

Okay. Yeah. You're listening. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. But like, we were debating Santa being real. And I was like, no. Like, guys, I'm gruel. This is ridiculous.

I'm grilling. I'm grilling. we're having a sit down conversation it's going down and I'm going to interrogate him and I did and you came clean so I was like that in second grade

because then I was like once I figure out Santa wasn't real gosh people really should not be listening to this with kids but once I figured how that Santa was not real then I grilled you about the Easter buddy about the Tooth Fairy Is there another one

there's like we also believed in like a second Santa like the St. Nick which we said came to do our stockings one time I think you did that one you're feeling like extra like in your mom era and we're like let's do sockings will be so cute that's probably like that that generation's version of elf on the shelf with kids oh yeah i opted out of elf on the shelf yeah we're not doing elf on the shelf it's too much that's not much we're not an elf on the shelf

no no that's stupid you're welcome to have an elf in your house too much i got an elf and if if you do that at your house we cannot be friends yeah no i i think we can just say wow that's so fun they have an elf at their house no we can't be friends i don't think we can't be friends no i don't think It needs to be a device of thing. It's a device of thing. But I, okay, it does make your life easier probably. I need all my friends to collectively agree that next year. No, we're on your end.

Okay. Never have I ever made up a rule for my kids on the spot. Yeah. Oh, for sure. I have. I have. I don't remember, but. New rule.

What did I do? I'll say that. New rule. Matt, you can just tell that sometimes it's like he knows he needs to step in and say something. But like I get this way too where you're just like, it's like but why and you just like get confused and so much like we don't do that because

and then he'll just like make something up and we like try to abide by the rule. You have to get creative with this stuff. No we try to abide by the rule of never lying to our kids. No I don't lie to them but I'm like why? But sometimes like how do I verbalize? Oh I love this because you used to ask me why about everything. No no but like okay seriously

with Griffin right now it's like why dad why do we have to stop by the stop sign I'm like because it says stop but like well it's because like when something says stop. You have to listen and actually stop. He said, but why? And it's like, well, it's because we're on a road and we have to let people go. And he'll just keep asking questions over. Like 20 a row. I'm not kidding. And we're just getting. You don't remember you did this. So I think, I think I literally need to just, well, he can't read right now. I also don't want to say because I said so.

No, but when you're about to lose it. I've never said because I've said, I've never done that. I have. I know you. He told, he told. After three hundred times. My favorite is Matt, trying to tell Griffin that he can't, Griffin can't, uh, smack me on the butt. Oh yeah. I said only daddies can do that's only for me to do. And then he's like, but why? And I'm like, he's my wife. I'm like that is cute. And when you're married and when you have a wife, you can smack her on the butt too. That's cute. Only daddies can smack mom's butt. But that's just a recent rule that we started in the yeah. No, that was happening. That was funny. That's funny. You were smacking your butt? Yes. And in public. Yeah, both of them. In public. That's yeah. Everywhere. Sometimes. Yeah.

Sometimes it was really crossing a line It's not like I said Oh my gosh Did you say? Sometimes I was really crossing a line Sometimes it was really crossing a line I did not say because I said so Like first off

It's after like 20 times And I was going to explode So it was better to say that If you guys were to know what my mom was like When I was a kid Just watch you look at like Trunchable from Matilda What shows that?

Matilda We want to watch. She had to be a tight ship. I have three points. I want to watch that movie with our kids. I think you would scar them for life though right now. No, we can't show them.

Like there's certain parts of movies when you're a kid. The choky? No, the, Matilda freaky out of the kid. Scared me a lot. Yeah. But I watched it all the time. I really would.

Okay. Never have I ever secretly enjoyed embarrassing my child in public. Why would you embarrass your child in public? That's so dark. I've never. Three, two, one. That's so much.

That's sick. I would never. I actually think about this a lot, though. I think we can unintentionally do that. Give me like an example. I think people do this with their toddlers when they yell at their kids in public. Oh, or publicly punish them.

Oh, like yelling at them. I think some moms, I think some moms. Oh, I hate when moms do that. Really, I told Matt this. I think some moms of toddlers really want other parents to hear them parenting. Yeah. So they feel like they're doing a good job.

Yeah. And so they're like, we do not do. And then they're really loud and public about it. And I think that embarrasses their children. Yeah, I hate that. That makes me like one of punishment. fist fight with those people like I'm just like why are you doing that why are you yeah yeah it's like it's like do you even like being a parent like I don't know no it bothers me happens all the time it happened

I know but I feel like oh wait that dude that did that in the airport too I wanted to slap that guy because her face was just so she felt humiliating at your and that girl was so little so cute her cheeks were so right she wasn't actually so little she was like eight and so then I'm like but like it happens all the time too even in Disney world which I'm like why are you doing this in ruining the the most fun day for your kids wow wait wait a way to go magical place on earth. I was trying to think it's funny to say there. I know, but I also think kids really want to behave if they have a good relationship with

you. Yeah. And so, like, embarrassing them is just like, that's like putting you completely on the opposite team is there. And this, I'll never forget this. Certain things, I don't know why I can't forget, but you had just started at one of the medical companies. I'm not going to say which one.

But we walked in in Springfield, Illinois, and this one man came to meet you. And he had his three sons, which we didn't know we were going to have three. sentence, but he's like, this is the, I don't know if this is, yeah, he literally said, this is my smart one, Billy, this is my athletic one, Johnny. And I'm like, I'm thinking, I'm like, you are weird. What are you doing? You are labeling. Don't label your kids. Right to us, telling us that. And that bothered me from this day. How often does he say that to his kids? Yeah. Because if he was telling these strangers, he didn't even know, we didn't even have kids yet. And I was like, this is wrong. That's what they're going to.

think of themselves as what you labeled them as. Dad always called me the ballet one, so I thought I had to do ballet, you know. That's why I did it in college. Twinkle toes. He called you Twinkle toes. He called you, twinkle. Yeah. Did you actually?

No. No. I didn't have you funny. I didn't like theater. I was like always the one token straight dude in the shows, though. I remember that like a conversation. Not one. There was more than one. I know.

But like I remember the conversations that with dad were like, dad literally like nothing wrong with this. But he was just like out of curiosity wanting to know. Like wanting to know. I'm like, yeah, so do you think you like guys or girls or what? And I'm like, I like, I like, I like, I like girls, dad. Like, I don't know. I, you know, dads, yeah. Yeah.

Never have I ever flirted my way out of a speeding ticket. I tried. I mean, I wasn't flirting with the dude, but I was just like. With the dude? What? I was like, I was like, I was like, hey, officer. That's a mighty big holster you got there. Oh my God.

No, I was just like, I was like, yeah. I did not realize that I was going that fast. That doesn't sound like flirting to me. I don't know. I just like, I'm like. Teresa never? Maybe if I'm just honest right now. You look like you work out.

No, I always get them. I mean, I mean, I only happened twice. I'm only. I got two. Have you flirted your way out of? No, I was crying. I know. I was crying.

Okay, the first one, this is how long ago, you were in my belly. You were pregnant with me. And I had Caleb. That's exactly what happened. He said I made a left on red and it was yellow, it was orange. But anyway, I'm like, you know, anyway. And so, yeah, I was crying. And then just recently, my tags were expired and I didn't know it.

And I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. I really didn't know. And just still gave me, yeah. And for that guy, you know who you are. You're a loser. Yeah, for watching us, you're a loser. Never have I ever smoked a cigarette. I've never smoked a cigarette

I've only ever had a cigar Have you guys ever had an actual cigarette? Never You smoked a cigarette Oh my mom smoked all the time I was best with those cigarettes yeah It's part of the reason she died Yeah

But I had smoked I wanted to learn how to blow the rings And all that stuff Yeah And pop the cigarette right I'm so glad I almost got into vaping in college Like I had a roommate that vaped And I thought it was kind of cool and stuff

And I'm glad I never did it Because now all this information is coming out It's the opposite of cool Like I tried his vape a couple of times I was like, oh, maybe I should get one of those. In college? Yeah, because like they marketed it as this better for you clean, like not, you know, non-toxic, you know, version of smoking. And now all these kids are getting like popcorn lung and there's all this information coming out about how it causes cancer.

And so, and some people have even said it's worse. How's that different from a pin? I don't know, but apparently it's even. I heard it's worse because water can get hotter. Yeah, apparently it can like the steam or whatever can like be really harmful for your lungs. But yeah, people are saying now. that vaping is worse than smoking, which is, I don't know if that's true. I haven't researched in it. Because the water can get. Yeah. Was this when you rented the house? Yeah. Okay. These are downers.

I know. Okay. Let's do a fun one. A funny one. Never have I ever had a cosmetic procedure done. Three, two, one. I have. I have not. I have both had that. Never. My teeth. I'm going to say you're, I think veneers are cosmetic. Yeah. Hair transplant is cosmetics. We've both had cosmetic. I've got more work I need to get done down the line too. Oh my gosh. I prep my dad every day of his life. I feel like, yeah, you keep telling your dad you're going to need a boob job. Oh my gosh. I think if I were to have any more cosmetic work done, I'd probably maybe one day, maybe when I'm like, if I get, when I get wrinkler, like my eye, so maybe one day I'll get

Botox, but I don't like my, I don't like my, whatever this is called. It's a wart. I don't think it's technically a wart. I think it's technically a mole. They told me what it was. Skin tag? Some sort of skin thing. But I asked about getting it off

Or like a birth market I think what they said at the dermatologist But you have to get like a specialist to do it The guy that I talked to couldn't even do it Like a plastic surgeon Because so that has a scar It's so little though It is little

I've had that since I was gosh Yeah Before we started I think I was nine years old When it became permanent Yeah I remember you didn't have it I got made fun of for it

When I was nine And I think ever since that I've not wanted it Oh my you can't even see it Well yeah I mean I kind of just I accepted it but yeah you know i've never clearly no i've never i've never have never have i ever been walked in on three two going to one i've never i've never no doing the deed doing the deed never i don't i don't think they ever did have do you count it as us as kids knocking on your

door and then dad one time you're like pushing the door and it finally came open are you just somebody yeah yeah it's been so long oh my gosh that's terrifying That wasn't me knocking You definitely Knocking you definitely That like Yeah I think there's

I figured it out when I was older It's like Why is dad sometimes Like there's door Their doors like randomly locked It's never locked Like why is it like Only locked once a month

You know And and like I knock on the door And then he opens a door And like you don't have any clothes on Like that's weird Not naked Yeah

No Where he's like Underwear No he's like head peek Oh it's head peeked over So you don't even see his stuff, but I'm just like, clearly you don't have clothes on her, you wouldn't be doing that, you know? That's funny.

Or I peeked up on a blanket, my head was there, and I'm down on, I'm looking for something. That's weird. I can't, do you want to tell people on the podcast what you did when I was a kid? What I did? Yeah, what you're, I mean, what you're explaining right now? Oh, yeah. The, glowing the dark boxers. Oh, oh, I was putting Josh to bed, and it was dark, and I had these boxers, and it was

Halloween. High bottom. Yeah, it was glowing and dark boxers, and it had, like, ghosts on it. So I was reading to him And then I got Oh I'm gonna take the boxers off and go around the room like I'm flying Well he thought I was flying because it was totally dark But I took my boxes off and I was naked

And taking my boxers and going around And then I put them back on I didn't say anything And then later on Josh realized Oh that was gross dad Yeah But at the time he loved it Yeah he thought I was flying

That's cute Yeah he's like And weird Yeah Never have I done it in a public space three what does public space mean

you know what it means never I have we have I have I've never what is that I've never what is that

I've talked about this last thing she prefers it in a public stop that is not true hey hey

you have you want another snack okay mommy you need a snack okay one minute I can get it okay let's go guys

can we just blur bye okay never have I ever So what's the answer to that one? This is when we were first married. Was it like in a bathroom or something?

Closet. Oh my gosh. That's like at a party. That's a mall. Union Station. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Parking garage. Actual Union Station?

Yes. Oh, but you're in your car. Union Station in a closet. What? Wait, what? Why do they just have closets? Why do they just have closets laying around at Union Station? I don't know, but that was a long time ago.

Oh my gosh. Wait, was this before? Or after you guys were married. Yes. Yes. Did you guys wait till marriage? I don't know if you. Yes.

Yes. We do not need to go. Yes. We waited to marriage. Yes. Oh, he's crying. Oh, he wants to see us. Oh, Augie. What's wrong?

Do you miss us? Oh, you want to watch us? Okay, sit. Hey, wait, you sit right there. Okay. You want to watch us? Now we need to censor the rest of ours. Yeah.

They just told me about how they did it. He doesn't know what we're talking about. Yeah. Yes, that's true. He doesn't know what we're talking about. Yeah. All right. Wait, so that was like a thing?

Is that normal? Like, I don't know if people, who does? You have, don't act like you haven't. You said I have never, and that's not true. I don't think we have. Plain? We've never, we tried to, but it didn't happen. Oh, oh.

Abby got to, Abby who started freaking out. I would too. She was yelling. Oh, my gosh. No. At that point, I was like, we're already getting yelled. That might as well finish, you know.

Ew. Ew. What? But we start what we get here to do. Okay. All right. We have never have I ever gotten seriously hung over. Okay, one, two, three.

I have. One time. I never have. One time. I think the time that happened to me. I know Teresa's story, the ice teas. Yeah. Long Island.

I didn't know I was going to be. Your 21st birthday? Yeah. I didn't know that was going to happen, but it was awful. And dad, what was your time? We went to a Super Bowl party. And they were serving. I just have a punch.

Yeah, you drove with me home. I don't remember I'd getting home, but you drove me home. My God. Which house? I think a slew. I just had a party. Is that so silly, Augie? We have an audience.

Never have I ever snooped through a host bathroom without them knowing? Is that like a thing where you're like in the bathroom when you're like people do that? Like a medicine cabinet. Girl, like what is all in the bathroom? What are you taken? I've done. Yeah, I've done that before. I don't think I've ever done that.

I'm going to say I've never. I don't know if that's weird or if that, like, is that bad? Like, should you not snoop through someone's bathroom? Yeah, you probably shouldn't. Yeah. What if they are taking some medicine that, you know, they don't want you to know they're taken? I wouldn't do it in a, like, in a master, like a private bathroom, but if I was like in their guest bathroom. Yeah, in their guest bathroom.

If you're looking for something, like a feminine product, like. Oh, yeah. Especially there's, like, there's a genuine need to look for a feminine product. Yeah. Never have I ever. Still snooping. I definitely had I think I gave you one one time You have personally had a hicky

Maybe I'm maybe I'm thinking of myself giving it to you Yeah I was like that would be very weird And your grandma asked about it when you were in high school Oh my gosh What did she ask? What was the question? She's like what did you do to your lip? Because why was it on my lip? Like let's be honest that's just second her left too long

Is like your second mom Abby it's so funny Which grandma? Vicki as well No there's a girl that I dance with that would always Get hickies All over and she would wear like a scarf to dance And we're like, why are you dancing in a infinity scarf right now? Dad, what about you?

I think at some point somebody did a hickey. Somebody did a hickey. How many? My gosh. One of the women I've been with, you know. I don't remember either one of us doing that. I don't think I give me a hickie. No.

It's kind of weird. I feel like if you do it, it has to be intentional. And then in which case, why are you doing that? Right. And never have I ever lied while playing this game. believe one two three I've never never I've been honest I just I'm being yeah that maybe I might have lied during the game yeah but I'm not going to say what because then you just jeopardize the whole show mom you now I'm gonna have to go watch I'm not to rewatch this whole video to see which

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