The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Our due date, baby names & the first trimester

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

We’re sharing all the details about baby #3 — from our due date and our thoughts on baby names to cravings, morning sickness, and what it’s been like being pregnant with two toddlers! This episode is sponsored by Revolve, LiquidIV, Cash App & Google Gemini Revolve: Shop at http://REVOLVE.com/unplanned and use code UNPLANNED for 15% off your first order. #REVOLVEpartner LiquidIV: Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to https://LiquidIV.com and use code UNPLANNED at checkout. Cash App: Download Cash App Today: https://capi.onelink.me/vFut/kssum24w #CashAppPod As a Cash App Partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking servicces provided by Cash APp's bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. Google Gemini: Visit gemini.google/students to learn more and sign up. Terms apply. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Because remember I kind of read my period app wrong? Is this your last baby? I think we got another one in there. We're not going to rush into any decisions right now. I just am not ready to like process formally closing that chapter. Do you have a name picked out? We're really solid on our boy name. I thought we don't know either name.

Okay, so never mind. We don't have the name. We don't have the name. How do you control not gaining excessive weight? Are you worried about postpartum depression? Would you do a homebirth, twin? question mark question mark hey real quick before we get into this episode

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then we can resolve this issue rather quickly and then you'll just be subscribed from here on out and we would greatly appreciate it and also you're going to find our episodes more accessible to you and now we will get into the episode let's go welcome back everybody to the unplanned podcast guys abby is now through the first trimester officially who she officially did it high five that wasn't so bad i was about to say something about us being pregnant but i realized like does that bug you I like it when people say, like when you say, we're pregnant or like, we're having a baby or like, I like, I like, I like that because I'm like, I don't want to do this alone. Because I saw TikTok the other day about how, how stupid that is because like people will say we're pregnant, but then like the wife is the one doing all the work. And then I started to feel guilty.

I'm like, man, I need to stop staying. Oh, it probably depends on the woman. What matters more is what you think and less what other people think, right? I feel like I can see where they're coming from. But also, like, maybe that's someone that like doesn't have a lot of support from their partner. This is definitely an us thing. Like, you're having to make adjustments because it's pregnancy. Obviously, I'm not going to downplay.

I'm doing the most here. You are doing the most. I'm doing the brunt of the work here. But you feel supported is what it sounds like. Yeah, I feel very supportive. And I feel like if I said I was pregnant, I would feel like, oh my gosh, this is such a big, heavy thing. I can't imagine doing this all alone.

Like, I feel really glad that we're pregnant. You're both, like, you're filling in for me in so many ways. You heard there, folks. Everybody has a different opinion on that, and that is okay. Yeah. I mean, that's what makes the world go around, right? One thing that bothers somebody might make somebody else happy. I feel good about it.

Abby put up a question box on her Instagram story. Ask some questions about baby number three, first trimester, how she's feeling, all that stuff. And we're going to be answering all of those questions right here, right now, ladies and gentlemen. First question is, would you do a homebirth? No. Unless they can do cesareans at home. That would be crazy. That would be insane.

I bet you the first Caesarian was probably performed. Trust me. I wish I could be. Well, actually, you know, I bet you they used to have to do Cesarians at home because it was like to save the baby. Those haven't been like around for, gosh. What was the first Cesarian? This is making me think about House of the Dragon.

That show, if you were pregnant. That show is terrible to watch. Do not watch House of the Dragon. Or if you're going to be pregnant at any time, or if you've been pregnant any time, don't watch that show. So many traumatic birth stuff in that show. Not good. Yeah.

Yeah. First successful C-section. Okay, let's see here. It says, what? 1,500. In the year 1500, they did a C-section. Apparently in Switzerland, some dude in 1,500 did it. Holy crap.

It was her husband. Her husband did it. Her husband did it. Her husband did it. That's beautiful. Jacob Neufor. I would have thought his name would have been Jacob Caesarean. Speaking.

What does Cessarian mean? I don't. We have so much educating to do. I swear I read this at one point. It was named after Julius Caesar because that's how he was born. That was not 1500. No, no, no, but like they used to do them unsuccessfully. back in the day. Like they did them. You're right. The name Cesarian is believed to have originated

from ancient Rome. According to legend, Julius Caesar's mother was born through, oh, his mother was born through a surgical incision and the procedure was subsequently named after him. His mother was born that way? Well, here's what they, babe, when they used to do that back in the day, one person wouldn't make it. Yeah, it was the mom. Yeah. Well, because it was like, they either both don't make it or one person could make it, so that's why they would do that. Hypothetically, you know what I mean? It's not awful. I hate that. Isn't that? Isn't that so. I hate that so much. I'm so glad that we are alive in this modern era.

You know what's really terrible is that the mom probably wasn't the one making the decision. That makes me think about House of the Dragon. Exactly. That's why you shouldn't watch that show. If you guys, okay. Was I not supposed to reveal our birth plan in this episode? It's all good. We're doing Caesarean section.

I guess we revealed the birth plan. We could talk more about it later. Everybody knows that too. Okay. Yeah. We'll go more into details on that later. I mean, I don't really have. I'm not withholding anything.

The next question we have, what is falling down you guys can't hear that but there's the light now on my screen it's fine pa is it it looks beautiful it looks like there's like LEDs back there that's the sun okay next question will you find out the gender i was so eager to find out the gender you guys i was wanting abby to do the blood test actually at my last appointment that was like i just wanted to know you could me to sign up for the blood test i want to know so bad and then we walked out and didn't do the blood test well okay you know how i'm frugal and our sister-in-law was saying how it's like eight hundred dollars or something for them to do the blood test at the doctor but they

spent like a hundred dollars at like a very you know safe high-end it was just a it was just a basic lab where they're literally just searching for the y chromosome yeah and then they can tell you so i was like you know what we'll just do it there because we'll save a couple hundred bucks like might might as well you know like why spend an extra couple hundred dollars well we've also never opted to do genetic testing we've never been like recommended to necessarily like it's always been our choice but we've never opted into doing genetic testing so we've always waited for the anatomy scan at 20 weeks to find out and I say always that's the first two but last minute I was like you know babe let's just get the like the better deal here and at this point we're so close to 20 weeks I think I'm just like

screw it we'll just wait I knew I knew that's what was gonna happen yeah but here's the other thing could you wait till birth absolutely not I gotta know I have to know this is a boy or girl I want to know it's so bad I think it'd be kind of fun but also I know my mental state like right after birth is like really rollercoastery I'm like I feel like I need to like set myself up to like process as much as I can before I go into that. And I also think it's really good, like I said, for preparing the kids because with our niece, Brielle, like, we talked about her, like, them having a baby girl and her and she and, like, Brielle, it felt like they knew her before they had seen her outside the womb.

You know what I mean? Yeah, so telling the kids the baby's name, all that stuff. Sister or brother. Yeah, it's going to be good. Like, they're going to get hyped. And then we'll also get to prepare. I'm worried about our sister-in-law that isn't finding out till the birth because I know she wants a baby girl so bad. She's going to love that baby no matter what. Yeah, that's true. I don't

know. That's a risky game. It's a risky game. I think if you're doing that, that's risky. Well, you have a preference, and I don't feel like they have like a strong preference. Yeah. Actually, I just talked to someone literally just yesterday. They had two girls and they really wanted a boy or something like that. They had two of the same gender and they really wanted to have the opposite gender. They did the sneak peek test and the sneak peek said that they were getting like the opposite gender. Then they went to their anatomy scan and found out that it was wrong. That's like when you were born, that happened to your parents with you. No, that was different.

That was different. They actually thought they saw a penis on me, which is, I still have a complex about it today. I'm going to be honest with you. So that's what that thing is. Shut up. I'm sorry. No, at my first scan, they told my parents I was a boy because they didn't do that

testing when we were babies, or at least they didn't on my mom. And then, like, like later on, they found out that I was a girl. Yeah. Anyway, what I was saying is then when this person was sharing the story, like, how then they were like so disappointed because they had like already thought. that they got what they wanted and they were like so excited then someone else that was at this playday was like that happened to me i was like the point whatever one percent of people that the sneak peek test was wrong on and i'm like i can't let that be me i know someone else that had the

sneak peek test you're wrong and it's not even that i have a strong preference but if i start to like imagine this and like think of the name and like picture our kids with a brother or a sister like that would do more good or bad than good and like just not knowing you know yeah and i'm also nervous to find out. I just placed the best order on Revolve. It's literally like Christmas morning when I get my Revolve orders in. I mean, you can find all the best things as the seasons change. I got some new Little Ugg microbooties. I'm so excited to wear those with leggings this season. Abby was so excited. When she put her Revolve order in, she came right to me and was raving about how excited she was because there were so many things on Revolve that she had been wanting to buy that she got. All the favorite brands from free people to Beyond Yoga, to Nikes, to Uggs, I'm so ready. And especially with a growing bump, I need a new wardrobe. And it's got to be comfy and cozy for fall. I'm so excited.

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Who knows? I don't know. I feel like there's always this pressure of like, are you guys going to be done? I'm like, I don't want to think about closing that chapter just yet while I'm still pregnant. We're still so young. We're so young. We have time to think this over. We're not going to rush into any decisions right now.

every bit of the process too i really do so i'm like i can i just am not ready to like process formally closing that chapter yeah i could work on that in hindsight or we could just like i just can't do that right now like i'm not i'm not there yet i love it so much twins question mark question mark no at first we did think it was twins you guys because abby's belly popped out well your belly popped out really quickly it did so we were thinking like this has to be we both were kind of convinced for a little bit i was just so bloated Yeah. And that'd be kind of fun. I mean, I say that, not ever being someone that's, you know, taking care of twins. I'm sure that's a lot. The reason I kind of was like hoping for twins, I know that's very naive into all the twin parents out there. You're probably like, shut up. This girl has no idea how difficult that is. And like, that's true. I don't know. This is just me just talking because I'm like, it kind of sounds nice in a way because I have C-sections. I'm like, they're going to have to slice me open anyway. Might as well just get two for one. Yeah. And the process. But, um, Um, alas, just one baby. And that's for the best, honestly, because I feel like

carrying twins and having twin newborns and all of that is like something that only few are cut out for. Babe, what are your pregnancy cravings right now? Anything and everything. I'm just so hungry. I think about food like 200 times a day. See, that's just me always. I'm always thinking about food. Really? I always think about food too. I feel like, but now it's just been like, you can't trust me on social media. Like, I'll see something. I'm like, I got to eat that. now like i see something i'm like oh i need that now but it's not like a specific recurring craving it's

like when i see it i want it the other day guys abby went to crispy cream and got some donuts when i was putting the kids down for bed and oh my gosh best decision ever i want to get crispy cream every day now you picked out a cookie butter yeah it was filled with cookie butter that one was insane what was the other one that was really good i mean i like the raspberry one the butter toffee one butter toffee that one they have like a hairy potty hairy potty hairy potter right now but I literally the reason I had to get those is because the food noise was so bad because I had a dream about biting into a donut the night before and I literally couldn't continue with my day until that was satisfied like all day I was thinking about it you know it's bad when you're

having dreams about food yeah okay are you squeezing my big toe between your toes cold why are your toes warm because it's so hot in here I'm dripping sweat I think I'm cold blooded because you know because no matter like what the temperature is I'm the opposite of you but then why are you cold right now because I need to be in the sun like a lizard. What? Oh, that's right. Next question is, how do you control not gaining excessive weight? That's like really personal, but if, yeah, that's...

I feel like I gained excessive weight a little bit. Here's the thing that I tell you all the time, babe, is you should eat whatever the frick you want to eat in your pregnant. Yeah, I kind of feel like that's my motto for this pregnancy. Like, I want to work out still, but I want to just eat. I want to eat good. Eat good. Eat donuts.

I'm eating good, you guys. Don't worry. I feel like by your third. too you're kind of just like it is what it is and i'm just gonna eat and here's the other thing i can't prevent my face from blowing up and getting so puffy that pregnancy face hits me so bad i feel like us shorter girls have a disadvantage here specifically because it's just it just goes to our face so so now i'm just like i can't i can't prevent that so i'm just going to lean into it just let it happen i did think about getting a guasha this time you know what that it is it's like a little tool that you can

like get things to just like drain in your face? A guasha? I didn't even know that was a thing. I don't think it's going to fix my problem. I didn't. Is that French? What is that? I don't think it's like Japanese. If you say it like that, it kind of sounds like quisson. Okay. Don't do that. Okay. How bad is the morning sickness really? I didn't have it super bad this time. Really? I feel like there was a, I didn't throw up one time. I've thrown up every time before. There was a time in our life where we were hitting up Taco Bell every day. But that's not morning sickness. It was a brief, it was a brief situation.

I guess it's more pregnancy cravings. It's really like an immersion to everything else. Yeah. Yeah. Because I still didn't want to eat it. Remember I was like trying to choke down a cassidia from Taco Bell and I was like, I hate it. It was crazy though because like if you didn't get the food that you needed in the moment that you felt like you could eat it, and it was game over.

Like you couldn't eat, you couldn't eat it later. I probably cried about it. Like I ended up eating your snack wraps from McDonald's because they were. sounding good in the moment and then it wasn't good anymore yeah you got them and i'm not making this stuff up i know it's crazy i know it's crazy i feel like only pregnant ladies would understand that seriously how many weeks are you already answered that 14 i'm 15 tomorrow i have trapped gas in my belly right now it kind of hurts no i can't get it out trust me i would if i could you have been gassy i have been so gassy it's crazy too probably my diet sometimes it just like i get in the car and

like, oh my goodness. You're kidding. In the car? You know, especially in closed spaces like that. Yeah. I can't embarrass when we're like cuddling and I can't keep it in. You were sitting on my lap and you farted on me the other day. That was so messed up of you to tell our friends that.

It was true. I was sitting on Matt's lap. Would you force me to sit on it? It smelled so bad. It smelled? Yes. You're kidding. It actually stunk.

I feel like they've been smelling more. Yeah, but that one did. Maybe that one wasn't as bad as other ones. no you guys that forced me to sit on his lap at our friend's house and then i was just talking and i accidentally let one it was quiet and then you announced to our friends before we left like i we go in hours of just like playing games you didn't say anything you sat on that and then before we left you just told them i was like so embarrassed that was funny but it was also hilarious we were like hey you were laughing i was cracking up because i didn't know that you felt that i'm not even a funny person but my delivery

in that moment everyone was laughing they were laughing because they felt embarrassed for me. Ouch. I can't help it. And actually, I still have a trapped in your pocket right now. It's TMI. It's TMI. It's been so gassy.

But we can't. Aren't you supposed to take like gas sacks or something like that can help with that? I've never taken you that, but I should. Gosh, you're right. I'm like starting to sweat now. That the AC's off in here. We got to figure out a solution to this. Okay.

Where do you want to go on your baby moon? Oh my gosh. Are we going to do that because it's going to be like close to Christmas time at that point. I got you, man. Maybe we road trip somewhere. You can do a baby moon like whenever you. want i don't think it has to be it doesn't have we could do a little cozy cabin yeah it could go up north that'd be kind of romantic yeah i kind of want to do this low key just because the time of the year that

falls i just want a massage how would we just go back to mexico mexico would be really fun too or Vegas hey we've never done a a Vegas baby moon okay maybe that could be fun or you know who i saw our friends low and tanner went to Dubai we're not going that far that's awesome for them that looked so sick. I'm just gonna plan your baby moon. It'll be a surprise. I'll be like, surprise we're going to Abu Dhabi. I would not enjoy that. Wait, you wouldn't? I can't be gone that long. That is, yeah, it is sad when you're gone from your kids for more than like three days. You guys, we're getting into the fall months, even though it really does feel like endless summer. Certainly here in Arizona, it's still like about 100 degrees. I think the high today is in the 90s,

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fates. And the fates have chosen boy both times. So the fates are probably going to choose boy again. That's what we're thinking, you guys. We really think it's a boy just because of our past history. You know, our track record. We've been two for two boy at this point. There is actually some type of statistical. I don't even know how this is, but it's like proven. And you have two of the same gender, you have a higher chance of being able to predict the gender of the third. Really? Yeah. But then I've like met families recently. I've met so many families recently that have like two boys and then a girl or two girls and then a boy really so maybe that's uh what's that prophecy like we're gonna have a girl yeah i don't know i like the more that i hear about that i'm like my whole idea of what this

baby is is why we don't fully agree on the girl name so but we better have a boy because we agree on the boy name pretty good next question is from alexis is cool 101 do you use anything to prevent stretch marks no i thought you did i thought you rubbed like an oil on that's something else i gave up on you maybe once i get bigger i will yeah you did that that like i used bio oil that's what it's called yeah but i don't really think that it helps you don't think it would help like when did you give up on on that stuff probably pregnancy number two yeah that might bring it back you know just give it a good old shot it probably is can't it's good for your skin to hydrate yeah um but i think you're going to get stretch marks you're going to get stretch marks

i think it's a completely like a horse your skin hormone yeah and just genetics too because Some women, you know, get a lot of stretch marks, and some get literally none. I'll be honest with you also depends on how big you get. Depends on how the baby it, you know, all these things. And I feel like already my belly is not like imperfection free. So now I'm just like, what's another few stretchwork? Okay, what's crazy about your belly in particular is you legitimately had abs before this baby. Like I did not.

I saw them. You would flex and I'd be like, oh my gosh. But then you'd pull your skin and you could pull it out. I have so much loose skin. Because of the two babies that you've had. So it's pretty cool what your body's been able to do. But yeah, girl. Yeah, girl.

I got lots of skin. You're fit. Speaking of fitness, do you lift weight during pregnancy and postpartum? If yes, how much, and when? I do lift weights. Pregnancy and post-wit. Sorry. You're good.

I've been working out. I don't lift super heavy. Abby works out. Are you doing five times? week now or six times i do like five or six six six is ridiculous weeks that you do six are crazy i mostly do six this is the first pregnancy that you've worked out the entire time right no i've worked out the entire time both other times really yeah this is the first time i've done burn the whole time ah okay yeah because you've been going to burn for three years so impressive i don't know how you do

it to be honest i do lift weights i don't do anything like i'm not maxing out on really i'll max out but like on a high rep count i'm not doing like my one rep max you know what i mean yeah So I don't lift anything super heavy. I'm only doing stuff with dumbbells too. Like I'm not doing any stuff with like a big heavy barbell, nothing crazy. And also I've, my body's very used to this style of workouts. Like I've said, I've done this exact same workout style for three years now. Also, my gym is very, very good at having pregnancy modifications.

So once I start to need those more, I don't really need a ton of them right now, but just because of how early I am. But as I start to need them more, like I'll really follow those pregnancy mods. and like just do different movements just to keep my body safe and the baby safe. It's crazy, baby, because we worked out together a couple weeks ago, and you smoked me. Like, you did more reps. I think it was like burpees or something. We were doing it for time. And after that, I thought, holy crap, my pregnant wife just did more burpees.

I can still crush you on burpees for sure. You are fit. Thank you. You are so fit. I will say my heart rate is much higher when I'm pregnant, so that's something else I'm cognizant of. Even though I can physically do it, I can feel. my heart working really hard so I have to be aware of that and like scale back sometimes even though

I'm like I could totally do another rep right now I could do another lap or whatever like I have to be aware of like managing that I have a naturally high heart rate and I'm used to getting really high but I just want to be more careful of that when I'm pregnant especially next question is what's the age gap between the boys and this baby if I'm doing my math right we're talking two and a half years exactly two and a half years between our second and our third and this new baby yeah which is awesome. Perfect. So good. Ideal. Yeah. Because first age gap is only 13 months. And then this one is, what does that make it? 30 months. 30 months. 30 months. Two and a half years exactly. It's perfect. I think they're all going to be so close. I know. They're going to really get along.

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and then we're not going to be able to... Maybe we'll have to think on that one a little bit more. Maybe we shouldn't switch it up. Like, maybe we should just... I'm so impressed that you even know what the snoo is. Of course I know what the snoo is. We've been through this twice. We've never used it, though.

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And in fact, the experts would disagree with me. But I'm just saying that if you ever feel inclined to use a nipple shield because you're struggling with a latch or you just want to protect your nips. It's always worked out great for me and it's never affected my supply or anything like that. I love them. I think they're amazing. I think they're wonderful. I'm going to use them again. lost sensation in your nipples so i think a lot of women lose that which is totally totally chill oh sorry

did i show you cut that out no it's fine okay but um yeah like the nipple shields have been awesome abby's exclusively used those i've yeah exclusively i mean i feel like at the beginning we latched augy a few times without it and then i was like nah never mind yeah and you know i've i have heard that it can't have issues with supply but abby has so much oversupply that we've never had an issue my other like must have product i love the ollie swaddle when they're newborns i think they're great but then our favorite is the um soli wrap you basically just wrap it you wrap your baby in this material and they just feel like they're back in the womb but you can wrap them to yourself to dad to a like loved family member friend and they just feel like they're just so cozy and safe our kids

needed the solely wrap, especially Augie, to just calm down. Yeah, I almost forgot about those. I would wrap the kids to me while I was working and on my computer and they would just sleep. They would just sleep on my chest and they feel so safe. They just fall asleep listening to your heart beating. A recommendation I would say for new parents is don't get like a hiking baby carrier because we bought it and we used it once and then never used it ever again. Maybe we've used it three times. Maybe if our kids weren't so big. But another thing, sorry, you said this the other day, and I thought it was good, ate like a swaddle with Velcro.

That's the Ollie Swaddle. Yeah, the Ollie Swaddle. We used the Dreamland weighted sleep sacks. Once they were a little bigger. Once our kids were, you know. Probably like at least 10 pounds. Yeah. And those have been wonderful for us.

Just anything to make your kid feel like they're back in the womb, you know, or that they're with you. But yeah, the swaddles, if you use a swaddle without Velcro or without some way to like secure it around your kid, then they just, they get out of it. and then when they have those like little tremors in the night, they wake themselves up. Here's things I'm not going to stress about with baby number three that I stressed about in the past. What are they? Mark my words.

Using bottles at times, I'm not going to stress about that. Using nipple shield, not going to stress about that. In fact, that's going to just be what I go to. I'm not going to stress about contact naps. Like, I feel like I always was like, I have to try to lay them down at least. I'm not going to stress about contact naps. They're going to learn to nap. It's going to be just fine.

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a new vehicle. We are getting a new vehicle. What? I didn't know about this. Shut up. We do need a third row. On the way over here, Abby threatened to buy a 1990s white minivan that she saw on the side of the road. This thing was so ugly. I think it was a Chrysler. I think it was a Chrysler. It was a Dodge. No, it was a Dodge. Dodge Grand Caravan? Maybe. That's what I had. We had a red Dodge Grand Caravan when I was a kid.

I'll get one. I'll get a little red bullet. No, we do need a third row. Many kids are so ugly though. They look so ugly. I don't, I'm not saying it's my first choice. Okay. But if it's between cramming three kids, we have currently have a Tesla model.

Model Y. Model Y. So it doesn't have a third row. It's time that we get a third row before we have this baby. We'll probably get the new vehicle in like January. We're kind of up in the air about what we're going to get. In fact, we're not quite seeing eye to eye. I'm seeing a minivan slash multi-purpose vehicle.

I'm thinking Rivian. I'm thinking because the Rivian has three rows and it's electric. But it doesn't have the captain's seats. It's electric and electric cars are what Abby has been driving for the past almost three years. And here's the other thing that I wanted to mention. You don't want to get gas, you know? And there's going to be a time. I would definitely.

gonna have to get gas i would definitely get your gas we're getting a kea carnival oh my god i would definitely get your gas for you as much as i could but there will be a time when you you will have to go pump your own gas here's how i'll make this i'll do what i do with anything i don't like doing and evis are good for the environment i'll romanticize getting gas a lot of people get gas by the way and it's no big deal they don't even think about it everyone watching this is like are they seriously talking about getting gas it's you i'm saying it's no big deal you're like complaining by getting gas I'm like everyone that's listening to this basically gets gas. So I'll get gas and then I'll also romanticize it.

I'll get myself a little drink at the gas station. It'll be really fun. I get the kids a good to grow juice. They're going to love the gas station. Here's just going to make me so frustrated though. I ate gas station breakfast like every day as a kid. Here's what's just going to bother me is I know as soon as we buy this vehicle, they're going to come out with some like EV like 700 miles of range,

better than a minivan, but it looks so cool. And it will be $1 million. I know that it's going to come out. And I'm just going to be like, oh, we should have. gotten that so then like part of me is like okay if we do the minivan then maybe we should just get like a used you know minivan that's like on the more less expensive sides that we can like save up for this fancy spancy hot mom car i want a pimped out kea carnival but then but i'm saying what guess what makes the hot mom car hot maybe they make an electric kea carnival you know what i'm saying like that would

be sick you don't care you don't care guess what makes the hot mom car hot what the mom Oh, shoot. I'm totally getting. You are super hot. It's not about the car. It's about the mom. Speaking of hot moms, you are so hot. You've been really into me.

I've been really into you. Like, I don't know what it is about this pregnancy, but like, good Lord, Abby, you look so good. You look so good. Your little bump is bumping. Like, you look absolutely stunning. Matt, like is the extra poundage on me, apparently. I like Curvy Abby. I'm a fan of Curvy Abby.

He tells me this literally 80,000 times a day. I love it. I feel very loved by you. I feel like I can easily embrace these body changes because you're into it. You look great. You look amazing. It's going well. I like this version of you.

Thank you. Okay. Next question. How do you stop yourself from taking out your moods on your kids? I'm not really tempted to take moods out on my kids. I'm tempted to take my moods out on you. I told you. I said, hating, I said getting mad at your husband is a pregnancy symptom.

You said that to your mother. and then your mother goes, good thing you've been pregnant for like two out of the last three years. Good thing. You're tough, buddy. No, I love you. You know, at the end of the day, I love you. And I love you so much. All throughout the day, but just sometimes, like, you know, when you're pregnant, it's just, you're the easiest, you're the easiest person to take my moods out on because you're the safest person.

I feel like this has been the best pregnancies so far, at least just from me, like seeing everything play out. Because first one, you weren't around family. second one it was a surprise and then this one it was planned and we're around family and friends and you have a lot of mom friends I have a really good community yeah you have a good community so I think like if you want your pregnancy to go well try to find community to do life with especially if there's one that you can find that is like a mom in the same sort of deal as you it will just make you feel so seen also your spouse doesn't have to become the punching bad for everything if that makes sense because you have other people not like be a punching bag but to like talk things out with and like obviously

you want to your spouse should be supportive of you and love you but your spouse shouldn't be the only person that is solving your every need and that goes for men and women yes so I think just coming back to community for husbands and wives you need community in your life and it it's been a lot of fun it's a world of a difference it's been a lot of fun like I have a lot of dads and I'm friends with that they're expecting babies and they're so excited and so getting to do life with them has been a blast. Yeah, I know. I actually joked because I was like me and one of my other friends, she's like literally due a week after me. We're like, we're just going to rent an Airbnb together and just like coop up together in the newborn stage because she also has two other

kids. We're like, we'll leave the dads in charge of the toddlers and we'll just give us two weeks to kind of like let the hormones settle and then we'll rejoin society. We're not actually going to do that. But I'm like, that does actually sound like kind of a good plan. That sounds like fun. okay this question is did you drink coffee with all your pregnancies and how many cups per day i did drink coffee with all my pregnancies i mean the standard rule that my doctor says and that is like widely accepted nowadays is staying at 200 milligrams of caffeine a day or below i follow that even when i'm not pregnant unless i'm literally like dying for whatever reason when i'm not pregnant now that i'm pregnant i definitely always stay below 200 um but yeah i surely get close to it every

single day. Which 200 milligrams is actually a lot. Not really when you think about it. That's one Alani energy drink. Oh, I don't drink those. I know, but even look at a monster energy drink. I don't think. I don't drink energy drinks, period.

Like, okay, I do. The most I had was the Clean Simple Eats. Like, they have like a 100 milligram drink that I will drink if it's like a really tired day. But yeah, because it's 200, like you can have more than one coffee in a day, which is nice. And in fact, I kind of need to or else I get headaches. Yeah.

That has been my worst symptom. You're addicted to the caffeine. That's what that is. Yeah, I am. And I don't really care to get off of it, honestly. I feel no guilt about it. I feel no problems with it. Oh, man.

Okay. My worst symptom at late first trimester, early second trimester, every time, and this time included, has been headaches. And usually magnesium helps me, but I still have been getting so many bad headaches, and it just sucks. It drains you. Yeah, last night, it felt like my school was cracking. You had a really bad headache last night. I was freaking out a little because it felt like I literally, like had a cracking school okay next question is do you have a named picked out we're really

solid on our boy name but we kind of don't see eye to eye on the girl name well i thought we are we don't know either name okay so never mind we don't have the name we don't have the name and it's fine because we have a long time havey's thrown me for a loop right now on the name because all the names that we had decided on in high school to name our children have been thrown out they're no longer cool no one of them i do still like but we just have a unique issue with it I think that's a cute one. I think the name from high school is really cute. Then we can tell her that we've named her since when we were 16.

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Terms apply. Next question is, do you get nausea? What helps? Abby, would you like to share the secret to your nausea? I didn't do this the last two times, but I took Unisom and B6 this. time, which Unisum is just an over-the-counter sleep-aid, and B-6 is just a vitamin that you can get over-the-counter as well. For some reason, that combo really, really helped me this time. I got sick. Like, I threw up a few times with both of my previous pregnancies, but was just

really, really nauseous mostly the whole time. This time, I didn't throw up at all. I was definitely nauseous, but not nearly to the extent that I was the other two times. And, yeah, that really saved me. And on fact, I still kind of take it because now I have, like, a little dependence you on it. Unisome is freaking awesome. That's actually what I took when I was struggling to sleep at night. It helped you a lot. Dude, Unisim will just knock you out. And it's not, it's not like some crazy strong drug. I only take half of it too. What is it that people will get prescribed if they have insomnia? Because there's like a really strong sleep. Ambient. Yeah. Like I, I didn't officially get diagnosed with insomnia, but I like 100% had it. And the unisome is what helped me get back

on track with sleep. So, and I literally took, I actually took half of Unisum last night to go to bed. Yeah, I love Unisome. I love Unisome. Have you ever seen your placenta? Didn't they show us the placenta when you gave birth? Not with Augie, I don't think, but with Griffin they did. Maybe, yeah, maybe with Augie we didn't see it. Our birth photographer took a picture of it and I felt embarrassed when our family was swiping through pictures and they saw my placenta. Yeah, the placenta looks, it looks like, I mean, it's an organ. It's bloody and big. My gosh, get this, Matt. What? My friend is a labor and delivery nurse. You know, I don't know who I'm talking about?

Yeah. She delivered a baby yesterday. Okay. That at 34 weeks, that was not in the uterus. It got implanted somewhere else and was just like basically just floating in her upper abdomen. What? The baby survived. The baby's in the NICU, but the baby's like going to be okay.

And she said the placenta was so weird. How does that happen? I don't know. How did, is that why she delivered at 34 weeks to get the baby out? I'm sure. Did the baby like come out of the, of the little? the baby was not in any kind of like it wasn't attached anything it's just floating in there it came out of the womb like it like it wasn't in her womb that's the thing holy crap yes abby that's insane it is insane she said it was the craziest thing they had to do a c-section but like this bro they couldn't pull the baby from down here bro that's yeah the baby like her uterus they didn't have to do any fundal checks which is when they check your uterus afterwards because she was never the baby was never in the uterus that's insane isn't that crazy i don't understand that i did he hear about a baby that was born and the sack like they were born they were born in the

it's very rare but it can happen and then i think i saw a video wasn't this a video that you showed me i want to say you showed me the video and they like pop the sack and then the baby started crying crazy because it was like oh i'm out of the womb now it was just so quick it was wild crazy yeah thank goodness for our doctors and our hospitals and washing hands because like back in the day they didn't know to wash their hands when they were dealing with cadavers and then you would go deliver a baby and they had like germs on their hands dude they they had like no seriously the hospitals at one point this was in the 1800s had higher rates of of like infant death or like or the death of the mothers giving birth than at home births because in the hospitals they were

dealing with cadavers like all this infection too yeah they weren't watching their freaking hands that's a reminder to wash your hands I kind of have to pee I actually I was just thinking about this I love how many things you can do for me when I'm pregnant like I mean obviously you can only do so much but you can do a lot of things you can fill up my water you can get me snacks you can rub my feet you can rub my back you can get me like acedaminifin you can get me a blanket you can wake up with the kids i'm your personal assistant you can do all those things what you can't do that i wish you could do get up and pee for me go pee for you maybe you should just wear a catheter you have a catheter in at all times have a little bag that you walk around with that seems like

why wouldn't i just wear a diaper you'll never have to go to the bathroom ever again it'll just happen for you naturally that's what's crazy the people um the people that like poop in a bag you know like where they they had the surgery to where their poop just goes into a bag that's wild to me i can't under i can't believe that we have the technology to where people just they they don't go poop it just goes into a little bag it's crazy didn't you just get rid of all your maternity clothes oh yeah i did why did you ever do that why yeah why oh because that's kind of that's how you should do it that's you should have this open-handed spirit towards maternity and baby stuff, it just gets passed along.

You. So the clothes that I gave got passed to, uh, well, some of them. Is it to Abigail or Addie? Well, half of them I gave to like an aid to women's donation center. I remember that now. And then the other half that I held on to, I actually ended up giving away still to, um, a friend that was pregnant who then passed on to my sister-in-law who's pregnant, who I'm sure will pass it on to somebody else that's pregnant.

Or maybe it'll come back to me at some point. That's what's been funny is like the entire time, Addy, was pregnant, I would do a double take. Like, I feel like I've seen that outfit before. And it was always your clothes. Yeah. I mean, that's how you should. You should pass maternity clothes on because you only need them for a short season, but you kind of really need them for that season. For me, I never understood when people were like, I just size up. I'm like, how did you do that? Like, I would need to, that wouldn't work for me. The thing about Abby is you are so quick to get rid of things, which I love. Oh, yeah. Our house doesn't have clutter. I don't really have

attachment to items. I'm just kind of like, get it the freak out of here. The only area that we have clutter right now is our garage, which I'm going to handle very soon when I build our shed. The kid's toy space underneath the stairs is also extremely good. That we just shove them all in there. That's just because I get so sick of toys in our living room, so I just go, you put them in the little area. We need to organize that. Honestly, we should make that like a fun little, I want to make it camp powered, like a little clubhouse. A camp powered clubhouse? They're going to wreck that camp so quickly. Well, that's fine. That's what it's for. But as long as it has a system. That's my thing is like you've got to have a designated space where like toys can be out all the time and it can just be messy because you pick up

all the toys for them the kids just to pull them all out again so I think having like maybe um maybe we'll eventually have like a designated toy area in our home we do have that currently oh okay the toy room well the toy room it's not a room like you can't shut the door that's true you know it's just it's it's connected to the clubhouse you can shut the door I know could be there's so many toys in there they can't even stand in there okay next question do your stretch marks hurt and how hard is it to lose weight afterward your stretch marks don't hurt right babe not right now but like they do when you're pregnant like you can feel you feel like them stretching and it actually hurts your skin yes my skin when your skin is so tight it hurts wait that gives me like

the hebi-jeevies like that's awful that's awful for you i hate that yeah my belly button hurt really bad both times gosh and you had a freaking hernia repair yeah that's what hurts now is the the mesh in my abdomen. It doesn't hurt, but sometimes it bothers me. You feel the baby like pushing on the mesh? Sometimes. Okay, second question was how did you lose the baby weight? Because you, like, it was insane how you went from, you dropped what, like 40 pounds in a matter of a month or something? Like, how did you do that? I mean, I didn't work out in that time because you can't work out for six weeks. Isn't there, don't people say breastfeeding can help? Do you think that was part of it? There's mixed reviews on that. Like, some people say breastfeeding can.

can make you drop the weight really fast. And some people say that doesn't really, like breastfeeding can actually do the opposite and make you hang on to weight because your body needs fat for the milk. Yeah. So I don't really know the actual science behind that or if there's any,

or if it can have both effects, you know. I think being young helps and staying active during your pregnancy helps. The fact that you're under the age of 30, I think helps. I think you've told me that you've had friends over the age of 30 talk about how their pregnancies before 30 were so much easier

than their pregnancies after 30. So is that like something that you, you basically want to only have kids before you're 30, right? Well, that's what you've, I think you said that before. I would love to have all my kids under 30. Yeah. It looks like we're on track for that probably. But then I don't, I think that being active during your pregnancy does also help you a lot, I would say. Yeah.

If you're able to be. I know some people aren't and that makes me sad. And I honestly am scared that I won't be able to because I think I've had the beginnings of sciatica pain. And I'm like, if this got severe, there's no. a way I could work out. And that scares me, not because I'm like, it'll be hard to lose weight afterwards, but because working out is such a key part of my mental health. And mental health is extremely important to me, especially when pregnant. So hopefully that doesn't get worse. This is a really good question. Are you worried about postpartum depression? Worried? I don't know about

worried, but it is something that I would like definitely want to keep a close eye on, like looking for. they do a lot of checks at like your newborn appointments they do a lot of checkups on mom to make sure that her mental health is okay but I'm totally I told Matt literally on the drive here like if I feel like something is off I'm totally down to like having interventions to fix that because your mental health is so important after having a baby why I really appreciate you saying that I think there's so much maturity in saying you're opening you're open to taking a pill or medicine for your mental health, because there's definitely a stigma behind that. And I've definitely felt that even on the ADHD side of like, you know, for a while,

I mean, really the entire time that I've had Adderall, like, I've always tried to take that medicine very sparingly. But I kept seeing these clips pop up of Dr. Amon, who we had on our show, who would say, like, taking Adderall is like a person that has vision trouble putting on their glasses. It just makes your life easier so that you can. function better in this world and so like really this is super recent for me but the past two days i took my adderall but not just one pill i took two pills like i was told to by my doctor they were like take one in the morning and then take one in the afternoon but before two o'clock so it doesn't affect

your sleep and i've been so i feel like i've been very productive and i feel really like i feel so much better about myself and it just kind of confirmed to me that that whole stigma of medicine and being afraid to take it when when you need it is pretty stupid you know so i thought that was cool that you said you'd be willing to take something and here's the other thing too is that like that's when you get to a point where you have like a diagnosed thing that you need to prescribe medication i want to do every step possible before we get to that point too just so i know like okay like this is actually something that i do need treatment for like if you i hear what you're saying with i don't think you're understanding what i'm saying like what we want to we've we've laid all

these things in place that we want to do differently in order to support the best healthy mental health that I can possibly have postpartum. And yeah, I want to set myself up for success because I know that there's things that are within my control that should lead to like better results in my mental state. But if I do all those things and I'm still struggling, I'm super open to doing something about it. Gotcha. That's cool. Yeah, I've never had anything diagnosed post-partum and I've always been honest on those tests so I'll continue to be honest on those and if something gets flagged I'm really open to treatment that's good I think that's really and I think the reason I have been open to treatment is because I have a lot of friends now that are very open about like

oh yeah I ended up taking something postpartum or I ended up doing like this postpartum because I was struggling and I think that that conversation around it really just it was such a gift to me because it's such a freedom like I if I if it comes to that like it just felt like it was Like, okay, this is a freedom to me, like that I can, I can also do something about it. Where do you get maternity clothes? I think you've gotten a lot of clothes sent to you. I love pink, because you're an influencer. I love pink blush maternity.

I thought their dresses that they sent you were really cute. They have everything. They have really good stuff. Gosh, they should sponsor this show. I wish this was a pink blush maternity ad. They have great, great, like, cute, trendy things. If you're watching this pink blush, we like your dresses. They're pretty cute.

I also got some maternity leggings this time. from vitality. I'm excited to try those out. Those haven't arrived yet though, right? Yeah, they have. Oh, they did arrive. Yeah. Have I seen you in those yet? I haven't worn me yet because my belly is not like quite big enough yet. Oh, okay. So they're like they're made to accommodate a bigger belly. Yeah. Got it, got it. I feel like I've even gotten stuff just like from Target. This one's kind of funny. It says, do the boys understand? I would say yes and no. Augs doesn't. August he thinks the baby's in my boob. He keeps, he goes, baby. And then he'll like point right to your boobs. Which I don't know why.

He thought they are why the baby's there. I don't get it. The other day, though, Griffin referred to your boobs as peacocks, which then at the same time, I'm like, where are our kids getting these terms from? I don't know. I don't know what it is. We're going to have to really explain things to them one day. But then we told our friends that story, and he, like, acted like we had no idea what we

were talking about. I was like a fool like this. Are you sure he was calling your boobs specifically? Matt, you weren't there. But no, you told me right after the fact you were like, Griffin just said nice peacocks, mom. Oh, I thought you were there. No, he certainly, he said it twice. And he pointed.

right to your boobs. He said, those are your peacocks? I was like, what? Kids, kids are so funny. Yeah. Oh, no, what happened? Do you spill? Spill some soda on yourself? How has it been pregnant in the Arizona summer heat? This isn't bad because I'm not big, but I've been big pregnant in the Arizona summer heat twice. And I told Matt, I will not do that again. So this baby is coming in February. That's actually why we had the baby in June. Abby was like, that's why we made. The baby in June. That's why we made the baby in June, because the baby's going to come during peak weather season in Arizona, and we'll get to be out doing walks. We'll get to go. We can go to the park with the baby. We can take the baby outside so they won't be jaundiced like a other two. And while you guys are all freaking getting snowed on in the Midwest, we will be outside. We'll be chilling outside. We'll be chilling. They might have a glass of wine. It might be sweater, too, so we could be like cozy in our sweaters and just like chilling and hanging out. then it won't be like excruciating to babyware also i feel like we we've learned from our past

mistakes that is correct but we couldn't definitely do yourself favors and the timing of your pregnancy oh yeah oh yeah i think this is a good one i feel guilty taking a nap we're being lazy how do you overcome this i feel guilty for taking a nap and being lazy i don't understand why you feel that way because in my book anytime you want to take a nap when you're pregnant you should take a nap You should relax. You should take the day off. You could just wear PJs all the time and wear no makeup and just chill out. A lot of moms can't do that.

Like a lot of like their husbands work out of the house. And so then I'm like, man, if they're still grinding, I got to still grind. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like anytime when it comes to naps, though, I want you to take naps. Like I want you to rest. Because if I'm tired, I hate being tired. But I guess with you, though, you kind of had the choice of like nausea or being tired and you chose being tired because you were taking the unisome, right?

And being tired felt better than being nauseous. Yeah. No, I don't think that. I think I also'm like, I don't want my kids to like lose their mom for a month or two because we're getting another sibling. I don't know. I also didn't feel that bad. If I felt like really, really, really sick, then I would take a nap.

But I didn't feel that bad, you know. Yeah. Do you have a preference on gender? Do I have a preference? I really don't. I would be so excited either way. I'm glad that we don't get to choose. Yeah.

I wouldn't want the burden of that choice. Are we going to do a similar gender reveal to what we did in the past? Because I think we're going to have the gender deal here. I want to find out with our family and friends. You do? Yes. Why do I want to find out before everybody else? Oh, you want to find out before.

Yes. Maybe I could just know and then you find out at the gender reveal. Yeah, you tell me. That'd be fun. At the gender reveal, we have two, like, pink flowers and blue flowers. And then you, like, everyone can watch me turn around. And you're handing me the blue or the pink flowers. Oh.

Oh yeah, that could be cool. Or yeah, or I could, yeah, something like that. I don't know. How do you want to do it? I don't know. We could make everyone take one bite of a cupcake and it's filled with pink or blue. That could be fun. What if we do something that's completely unique?

We've already done this twice. Should we like make it more fun? I think that's where people find themselves in some weird situations. Oh gosh, yeah. What do you want to do? Do I have to decide right now? Yes. We've got to have a party.

Let's throw a party. Let's have fun. It's an excuse to celebrate. Okay, let's throw a party, but you want to find out before the party? What if we dye our pool, the color of the... Your parents are coming. We're finding out the gender on a Monday. Wait, should we die the pool, the color of the baby?

No. If it's pink, we can have a pink pool. I don't think it's going to die pink very well. We would probably all get, like, sick or something. I don't know. Matt, don't think outside the box. Think in the box. What if I put, what if I get shot with a paintball gun and I'm shirtless?

I don't want you to do anything weird. And then I'm like, I've got the color of the baby. on my chest. That would totally be a video that people would parody on the internet. Like you know the people that make parody videos? That's so weird but I think that'd be kind of funny. I don't know. We'll think this over. Let's think more inside the box.

Maybe just a cake. Should we just do a cake? That's so basic. Let's just do the basic thing. Should we just do a basic cake? We're not special. We're not. Yeah. The people there's that YouTube couple that did drones. They did freaking drones in the sky. That's spelled out. I think that's incredible for them. I was like that is insane. Like how much

I only don't know where you get drones, so I don't think we're going to be able to do that option. They had the same technology that they used at the Super Bowl to put an LED screen in the sky made out of drones. I don't understand it. I love that. Okay, but here's the question. That's very fun. Everyone's been asking, which we're going to end on, what is the due date? The due date is February 28th, technically.

I think the date should probably be the 29th. Yes. Wait, what the 29th? What do you mean? Because remember I kind of read my period app wrong? I'm so confused. I thought, I thought. The doctor went off of the size of the baby, right?

So then they gave us the due date of every, like they looked at the ultrasound. No, they said that they pretty much aligned. So then they were like, we'll just make that the due date. Really? Yeah, it's very informal. Are you sure? Do you know that there is no February 29th, right? Like, that's not a date.

You're kidding. Yes, it's, the last day of February is the 28th. So then maybe the due date should be. I said that to the doctor. Unless it's a leap year. So on a leap year, then it goes longer. So this baby could, is next year a leap year? It's not a leap year.

Okay. But the 29th. is people that are born on a loop year, they're born on the 29th because then they add an extra day because technically there's 365.25 days in a year-ish. Okay, so technically the due date is February, is February 28th.

Yeah. We're holding that loosely because- But wouldn't that mean that the baby's going to come the 21st? Some around there. I don't think they do it like exactly on the date that you're 39 weeks, but somewhere around there.

Okay, yeah. The week before is when the baby will actually come. Yes. But the due date is the 28th. Yep. Very exciting. Some people keep that a secret. I don't really know why.

Yeah, why do you, I don't know why people keep that a secret. They probably have good reason. Yeah, I don't know. Mine is not a secret. Yep. So anyone that is due day buddies with me, comment on below. Yes. And we can go through this thing together.

That's so much fun. The last thing I want is to be pregnant alone. It's not fun to be pregnant alone. It's way more fun to be pregnant with other people. Yeah. Well, you guys, thank you so much for being here. if you haven't already subscribed or liked this podcast or left us a review, we would really appreciate that. But if you don't want to do that, we're not going to make you because that would be really toxic of us to do that.

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