The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Tay Lautner: My surprise pregnancy & body image issues

Episode Date: June 17, 2026

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Then I got pregnant, and then I didn't have any of those thoughts. You've probably heard of Tay through her marriage to actor Taylor Lautner, who famously played Jacob in the Twilight series. There was someone that had a really long lens camera and took photos of her first look. That was the first time it really felt like an invasion of privacy for me. Tay has become a leading voice in the mental health space, launching the Lemons Foundation and co-hosting the Squeeze Podcast, where she and Taylor have honest conversations about relationships, anxiety, and personal growth.

The internet is such a scary place to have kids if we go out. Someone's going to take a photo of our baby. There's just like so many little thoughts like that. We talk with Tay about getting pregnant by surprise, navigating body image changes, and protecting her future child's privacy, all on today's episode. Taye Lautner, welcome back to the unplanned podcast. It's an honor. So fun.

We're going to give you a brief applause. Yeah. Are people still mispronouncing your last name? I don't really care how it is said or done. I'm really. I'm indifferent because, yeah, people will, I think, just say it, like, incorrectly for forever. But my husband has never corrected anyone until, like, a couple years ago. So, yeah, it still happens, but I really don't.

That's, everybody. That was, like, groundbreaking news. No, it was. I know. I feel like every news outlet covered that. I think when Taylor went on call her daddy, that was, like, a real. really big thing. Again, all the news was like, we're pronouncing Taylor's name wrong. Red alert. Everybody needs to know. He was actually never concerned.

Yeah, no, he literally like didn't care. He's also like, I think just is so nice and it's just like not confrontational with that because he's like not going to want to like correct someone. Because you could say it how it technically like you could say it either way like pronunciation So yeah, I know. People, my favorite is when people come up and they say Lottner and they're like, I know that's not how you say it, but I can't remember how to say it correctly. I'm like, it's totally fine. Oh, people actually say that. Oh, yeah. No, people have like clocked in been like, like, wait, no, that's not right. But I know, I can't remember what it is. I'm like, totally fine. I'm not going to lie. Even now, like, even saying your name, I'm like, I need to like really think through this because it just it, yeah, it's. It doesn't. I think Lottner just because like we've said it. I mean, I, that's what I use. to call Taylor also. So like I think it just rolls off the tongue easier because we that's all we know. When did you find out that you were pronouncing your own last name? I know. I think when I, when I met his sister, I think that she probably said it the correct way. Yeah, like, cool it. Yeah. I know. That was probably, that was probably when.

Which that that's cool that you and Taylor's sister are such good friends, right? Yeah. Like that's why this, that's why you guys connected, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's how she, um, she introduced now she's just a cute little mama too in Nashville live in her mom life it's literally like the most fun thing that's awesome well a congratulations is in order for you as well thanks Taylor is now pregnant or Tay there's a little babe in there that's so do you feel kicks I actually was feeling them earlier yeah I finally like really started to feel them which is like so crazy yeah because you're Debbie said how far along you are I'm like a little past halfway okay I'm just I'm just saying. No, I definitely am like starting to feel stuff. I think I was feeling stuff earlier, but

it's kind of hard to like differentiate. I think also because it's my first, like what is a kick and what's like not like gas or something. There's a lot of gas happening. There's a lot of movement in there. Yeah, though I've started to feel kicks, which is like so crazy. You might not know this, but with my first, I had a posterior placenta and when my first had anterior, is there any chance it's anterior or? I think this is, I think I have a posterior. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's why I can feel them. Right. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I think that's right. Because I had with my anterior one, I didn't feel them early on. Like, it took like a little like past 20 weeks. Yeah. But by the end, that dude could really kick through that thing. So I was like, it doesn't always mean that you're not going to feel anything.

But yeah, it's fun. It's fun to feel kicks, especially at this stage where you're like, okay, you're not actually killing me right now. But then sometimes they get crazy. Sometimes you're wild or maybe we can just have a little chill baby. Yeah. So I listened to your announcement podcast talking about all things, pregnancy. And I found it really interesting. Just the fact that you were having to keep it a secret.

and you wanted to be able to announce the pregnancy on your own terms, was there ever a moment where you thought that maybe like somebody figured it out or something? Yeah, I'm definitely, every time I would like go to my OB's office or like go to urgent care or something, I definitely would get nervous. I mean, especially going to my OB because Taylor has come with me to every appointment. And so I have people in the waiting room and be like, oh, why are they both going in there? Like just like that would definitely like that concerned me. And I also put on a lot of weight, I think quicker than I was expecting because during my first trimester, I like, I have a metaphobia.

And I'm like terrified of throwing up. Like I hate. Oh, that's enough tall. Uh-huh. Yeah. So I, every time I was nauseous, I ate food and it was just, I had the worst food aversion. So it was just like carbs. So I gained like 12 to 15 pounds of like two and a half week.

and I was waking up three times in the night and eating food. So I had put on weight and you could like guess I was like my family was like not surprised I was pregnant because like you could tell because I had gain weight. I was scared that people were going to like figure it out when I was going in to my OB appointments. But yeah, that was just I think I think I was just a little scarred because our wedding. There was someone that like had a really long lens camera and like took photos of our like first look. and posted them like the day after our wedding it was like on daily mail I know I cried it was rough yeah that was not a fun thing for me um really because it just like it that was the first time it really

felt like an invasion of privacy for me yeah because like you know people like we leave their grocery store like we left a grocery store yesterday and there's like someone in their car taking photos and you see it on internet like that's fine like out in public yeah but our wedding that like really just like felt icky Like it just did not feel good. So I think that kind of just put a bad taste in my mouth. How did they even explain for someone that like doesn't know how this works? How did they know that it was happening?

How did they like have the right lens to then like spy on you and take a photo from who knows how far away? You know, there's many reasons why I think people knew that we were getting married. some people like to make a quick buck and sell something to someone to go take a photo basically someone called a photographer or called someone and a photographer that just came with his stuff had a long lens and shot us from like the other side of the road so is that how this works like the photographer is making money and selling it to like TMZ or whoever okay that that's interesting we've only one time ever had like a paparazzi experience and that was at the i heart radio music awards yeah and now anytime like signing up for which yeah which we knew was going to happen but it's

interesting this world is like new like still very new to us because now anytime there's like an article about abby or i and they always use the same image because they've i guess they bought it from yeah once it's like in getty like people can buy it and then they'll just like reuse it it's in there's I don't even know fully how it works, but I do know that there's, like, I have one photo of me. And I know Taylor has one photo of him that keeps kidding. And we both hate the photos of ourselves. And we're like, we got to like get a new photo in there. But yeah, that's basically how it works.

Wait, why do you hate this photo? I just don't. I don't know why Taylor doesn't like his, but it's just like not a great photo of me. So I'm just like, I have better photos on the internet. So like get one the eye post. Yeah, take one from my feed. You can use that however you want. Okay.

I'm so curious. How did you find out you're pregnant? I was not expecting it. We had a scare, which I've talked about last January. I had a scare that I was pregnant. And it actually just was because I had switched birth controls and it ended up not being a pregnancy. But after that, I woke up the next morning after thinking I was pregnant and I was sad. I was with the first thing I thought when I woke up was I'm sad I'm not pregnant. And I was like, oh, okay, now I know I'm ready. So, yeah, like basically a year later, I have PCOS, so my periods are not regular. So, and I'd been off of birth control at that point for a while. But I, yeah, just was not paying attention to things because with irregular periods, I feel like you just don't ever.

But I also was like, you know, if it happens, it happens. We've been together long enough. Yeah. It's definitely time. But, yeah, it was a surprise for sure. We weren't. Oh, it was a surprise. Yeah.

We weren't actively. I wasn't tracking. No way. And doing all the things, which is great. Honestly, like, I'm so thankful now because I don't think I would have been able to, like, make the decision to be like, like, I'm ready to start trying. Because my cutoff was always, like, when I turn 30, that's when I'll, like, try. Okay. So I'm happy that I didn't have to make that decision because I feel like I would have turned 30 and been like.

You're 29, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I feel like I would have been like, oh, one more year. One more year. So, yeah. It's probably nearly impossible to track, too, with PCOS.

The aura ring helps. Okay. Because I actually was ovulating at the time of conception, which is how it works. But no, it does work because now it can track maybe like six months to a year. It's been able to like track it in the app. And I've had my ring for I just found out two years. I'm obsessed with this freaking thing. Yeah, you do with natural cycles.

I actually don't. I have done natural cycles before, but I haven't linked it. Mainly because I just wasn't. I think if I was trying, I would have probably done it. But it always just like trash. It's your body temperature, right? Very cool. Yeah.

So my, yeah, I just use my armoring. So it does kind of help. But I feel like with PCOS, it's hard to like, no, fully what's happening. It sounds like you got off birth control. So like, was this, was it right away? And you were like, oh my gosh, this just like happened. Or were you tracking for a while? No, I had been off of my birth control for, I've been off of it.

I think I went off of it like last May. And that's actually how I ended up. getting diagnosed with PCOS because I had been on birth control for like 10 years. So I basically, like, I hear that so often. I basically like got my period and then I went on birth control because I danced in high school. And I would have really bad back cramps. And so I was just like, I need to like, I can't be having this. Yeah. So and then there's not really like at that time, they're not really thinking about, you know, all the things we know about birth control now. But I had just been on it for so long. And so I was just at one point, I was like, at one point I was like,

like, okay, I think I'm just like, I need to get this, like, out of my body. Like, what, what even is, like, my normal cycle? What is my normal, like, hormonal levels without this in me? Um, so, yeah, I went off of it, like, middle of last year. And then I started having irregular periods and then got the string of pearls thing and got the PCOS diagnosis from that. Yeah. With not getting pregnant right away, like I remember when, when we got up birth control, Abby was just like taking tests right away. Was any part of you doing that and, you know, trying to figure out, oh, my pregnant? Is this going to happen?

Yeah. No, not because I, no, because I wasn't just, I wasn't in the mindset of tracking it. I know a couple of my girlfriends have done, like one of them was doing, like she decided she wanted to get pregnant and then started doing the ovulation test and then did it and then she got pregnant like literally right after. but no I I hadn't even like thought about it I just like yeah I just was not even it was just was not even on my radar which is like you're just thrown into the first trimester uh-huh how is that you've been open about like it was like not necessarily like it easy first trimester yeah no I definitely was not prepared for it because I think you just hear like oh you had morning sickness like and that's what you think like first trimester it. but there's so many more symptom. Basically, I've said everything you could possibly think of is a symptom.

But yeah, I was basically like down bed for a month of, I mean, I didn't throw up, thankfully. There was times where I just wish I could throw up because I was like, I know I'll feel better after this. But I, my body was like, no, we're not doing that today. But I just had, I had no energy. I, like, couldn't think. I was so nauseous all the time. I had the worst acid reflex and the gas fangs.

and like hormonally I just felt off because I had gained weight so much so fast I just like wasn't I didn't feel like I was in my body like I felt like just like weird in my own skin and there was just so many things and I think because we're supposed to keep that stage private that was hard for me but I ended up telling a few of my girlfriends and then they told me that they were also pregnant So it actually ended up working out so well that I was able to walk through my first trimester with other pregnant moms. Because like, you know, my husband's great. And my girlfriends are great. And I have such good support around me.

But it is different, like, just having a female that is pregnant to, like, talk to and, like, go through that in that moment. Like, you're experiencing the same things. So that was such a huge. help for me because, yeah, I just was like, I could not do, like, anything. I just, like, laid on the couch and it was so frustrating because I liked doing things. So, like, even just cleaning the house. Who had the best reaction to you telling them that you were pregnant? Did anybody just, like, freak out, like, start crying or? Maybe my parents. I'm an only child. So my parents were very, very, very, very excited. I mean, they're still, like, over the moon.

They've been ready. When Taylor and I got engaged, my dad, like, signed our little card and just wrote grandkids heart dad. That's like all he wrote. So he's been, he's been itch. Him especially has been really itching for a little grandbaby. Your dad? Yeah. That's so. I know. I love him. He's the best. I remember both my parents are the best. Are they close? Yeah. Okay, that's great. Yeah. Getting to like share that moment with them was really cool. Like I just had never, I've never really like experienced anything like that before. It was really, it was really special. It was only just like that when we landed today. I was like, I'm so excited to be a grandma. And he's like, oh, you're sick of me? Like, are you talking about this? But I was like, I always love, you'll pop.

I'll be Lolly. She already has her name's picked out. But then I get all panic because I'm like, I don't want to put this pressure on our kids that they have to have kids. But gosh, I'll just tell it to you all the time. I think there's a way to do it where it's like, I think my parents actually did a really good job at that because I never felt pressured from them.

good, but you knew they would be so happy. Yeah, no, I knew they were like, okay, like, whatever you want, like, we're ready. Like, it was never, they were never like, okay, so, like, what's taking you so long? There was never any, like, pressure or any, like, forcefulness around it. They were just, like, they love, they love, like, I used to nanny, and so the little girl that I nannied, I would bring over to the house and hang with them. And so she, like, she, like, she loved my parents and my parents loved her. So it was, like, fun, like, because I watched her, I think I started watching her. She was eight months old until she was, like, four. I've had like a little practice round.

Yeah, I keep saying once I get through like the first six months, I feel like I'll be able to like, from there I'm fine. Like I've experienced it to a degree. Yeah. So I'm thankful for that. But yeah, the first couple ones, I'm like, I have no clue what to expect. Thank you to Omaha Steaks for sponsoring today's episode. And guys, we're steak people now.

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Controversial question. Are you guys doing a gender reveal? You know, those are, everybody has their take on what they think about those these days. Yeah. Yeah, no, we, we've done some stuff in private. I think everyone's like to each their own about it. Because whatever, whatever people want to do, like some people love having, you know, all the friends and family over and pop and stuff and that. We did do that. That stresses me out. But, like, I love going to those things and, like, being a part of that. So, I mean, it's whatever, like, anyone.

I think the Internet is, like, way too harsh on people, like, with what they want to do for their gender reveals. I think people just are too chronically online these days. No, true. Like, really, really far. And then they're like, well, this is a little. There have been some wild ones, and I get that. And it's weird that people get mad about it, though. On the flip side, you're like, why that actually make you mad?

Yeah. Yeah. I've seen the ones that it's like, there's like a giant box in the box opens and it's like pink balloons and like a pink like Rolls Royce or some like nice car in the giant box. I've seen a couple of those videos. I'm like, if I were to do a gender reveal, then that's what I would want. That would be cool. I will take a car to that. Thank you.

Well, you already got a three row vehicle. You mean, you have a mom car already, right? Yeah. Okay, that's awesome. I've been slow to getting Abby's mom car. Sorry, man. They've got two kids, man We have a two, we have two row vehicles

I was just kidding, yeah, we just need a third row That's so, did you do the early test If you don't want me asking or did you just wait to find out We ended up waiting We were told about the early test When we were in the, when we were at the appointment And she was like, do you guys want to know? And we were like, wait, no, I don't know if we want to know

So then we didn't do the test But then we went back and we were like, okay, we want to know She's like, well, we didn't do the test And I was like, oh, okay, I get it Like I didn't like, because like every time go in like they draw my blood so I was like oh like I didn't like I didn't think through that they technically needed my okay to do the test yeah that's you know like I didn't think it through you're like run it again yeah don't do it again yeah how do you feel about the needles and stuff I know some people

at their first time pregnancy okay yeah you were a nurse so you're like I'm pretty comfortable yeah this type of thing I I've given myself a couple like I've used before oh you gave it yourself I have like in school now I don't think I could do that It's, she's like, you've done it yourself is what you said. Uh-huh. Oh gosh. Yeah. How do you possibly do that?

It's actually really hard, which I think when I, like, after I learned. To get that angle too, I feel like. Well, you can do it like here. Yeah. No, here is like, you can do, like there's like, there's veins here that you can do it on too, which are easier. Like if I'll do like, um, like an IV push like a like a, like a medsua, they like do like the vitamin pushes and stuff that I know how to like do it myself. But yeah, no, I'm, I'm okay with them. I mean, they're not fun.

Like, they're not, like, enjoyable, but I just, I try not to look now, honestly. I just, like, trying to, like, get it over with and just do it. Remind me, was the type of nursing that you did, were you around pregnant, like pregnancy much? No, I only had a couple of patients ever that were maybe just, like, postpartum, but not, like, early days. Like, they had been in the hospital because they got an infection or they were back. I had a, I had a COVID mom once that had a two-week-old. and they both had COVID, but the baby was up in NICU, and she was with us, which I didn't like at all.

That was really hard. But yeah, not really, not really any moms, but my best friend is a labor and delivery nurse. That's a good tool. Yes, I asked her a lot of questions. But when I did my clinical rotations, and I did like the labor and delivery rotation, I was like, I can't do this. Like, that's, I basically saw a vaginal birth and it was like, I've, like, I've,

literally came home and I was like, babe, I'm not having a child until I forget what that looks like. And now I'm like, it's like 80% gone now. When was that? How many years ago? In 2019. Wait, you saw delivery and you're like, I don't want any part of that. Yeah. So was she unmedicated or what? No, just literally seeing it head. Seeing it. Seeing it from like the receiving end. I don't want to see that either. Yeah. Yeah. No, that was that was a lot. That was a lot. And I had never seen a birth before. It's crazy and amazing, but yeah, I also, I do get a little squeamish. Yeah, no, that was, that was just, like, really a lot to like. Also, this, now that I'm saying this out loud, this woman literally allowed, like, three students to just, like, stand and watch her give birth.

She probably wasn't thinking about that, honestly. But I would, I don't want, I wouldn't want a student in my room. All kinds of people were in, I don't know. Yeah, well, there was one time, though, babe, you were at a doctor's appointment in your hometown, and then a kid you used to babysit. Small town. walks in and I think you go no, no, no. It was like, I know appointment.

I used to babysit him. I was like, hey, wait, pause. Oh, no. I was like, he could not, his, yeah, how was you? His father was a doctor, so he was actually even, like, pretty young to be, like, observing like that. Because I was like,

he should. That's a little too much. It was crazy. Yeah, that crosses the line a little. I'm also like someone that like especially then, I was quite a bit younger. Like I was so afraid of speaking up. But in my head I had like warring thoughts. I was like, speak up, Abby.

This is crazy. And I was like, no, you don't make anyone uncomfortable. And so I was just like, no, I have to make myself uncomfortable. Because you know, those gowns are like open in the front too. I was just like, no, no, no. Yeah. I was like he's got to go. Prattie for that one.

So now, I mean, yeah, you're pregnant now. I mean, no going back like, you know, this is. is happening. There's no return. How do you mentally prepare yourself for, you know, birth, potential C-section, all of that? Like how does that? How do you approach all that? I mean, I think I'm just kind of taking it day by day. Part of me is like ignorance is bliss. And then the other part of me really wants to know everything. I think just talking to like as many moms as possible is definitely helping me. I think the biggest thing I feel overwhelmed with right now is like the registry stuff of it all. Because there's just so many products. Like, yeah. There's so many

dwellers. There's so many beds. There's so many car seats. There's so many bottle. There's just so many things. So me and my girlfriends now are kind of like, we're a little stressed about that because like we want to make sure we get the right thing. But the consensus that I've learned is that like don't over buy things because there's a lot of stuff that you don't use. Has your FYP change at all? Oh, yeah. It's just pregnancy talk all the way. Yeah. It's like basically like, like YAA book shows and pregnancy. Are you just embracing that at this point? Just all the pregnancy content.

Yeah. No, it's so, it's so fun. I love it. I feel like I'm getting the vibe that the more knowledge you have about pregnancy and birth and all of that, the better you feel. Is that true? I think so to some degree. Because like part, I think I think I'm apprehensive with knowing stuff because I learned so much of the things that could go wrong in nursing school. So when I say I don't want to know things, that's the stuff that I'm,

like I think has also made me like apprehensive to like have kids because I know of the things that can go wrong. So that's the stuff I don't like want to know to a degree, which sounds kind of ignorant. But I, I stress a lot about things. So I would rather like not be thinking about that. And that's why my best friend is a labor and delivery owner. So just have her on speed dial if I have a question about anything. Yeah. Because you've picked out your doula already, right? My best friend is my dula. But yeah. Did you have a doula? I think that's smart.

No, we've never had one, but I think Abby's going to get a doula. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think what I've heard from my friends that have had a really great experience with doulas is that it takes a lot of pressure off the husband because they, like, then they can kind of speak on your behalf and like take pictures and stuff and your husband can kind of just be there for you.

Whereas I feel like Matt was like trying to do the most, especially like with the nature of our first delivery, I feel like there was a time where I was like not talking. and I just my poor Matt like first time dad you were literally like 22 years old you're like I don't know what's going on yeah and I'm not talking either like I'm not advocating for myself so I think it'd be a good idea I think it sounds like a great and I also think like how you said like having other moms to be in community with and to like kind of like they share the same experience in a way like having someone that's so knowledgeable about birth and pregnancy in the roof like I'm like I would like that I want to

someone that has, I want someone that has a vagina as well in there. Yeah. Like, not just you. I feel like their sentimental are like, yeah, I don't want to know anything and I just want to go into it. That was me. I was like, please no one tell me anything. I'm just going to go and they're going to take my baby out. There's other people like, I knew everything. It's just different ways of handling that unknown. Yeah. Because so much of pregnancy, I'm sure you know, like, already you're just throwing deep and you're like, so much of this is just like dealing with. Learn as you go. Learn as you go. Yes. I can only imagine, especially now being in the public eye, the amount of questions that you get, being pregnant, you know, when's the due date, what's the gender, what's the name, like so many different questions. How do you decide what to keep private and then what to share? I think if it has to do, like, with me personally, I'm more than happy to, like, share how I'm feeling and when I'm walking through. But it's definitely just like a whole new territory. And, you know, every time, you know, after this, every time.

Every time I open my mouth, an article pops up. And that's something that I'm really learning during this pregnancy is every time I even just say, like, you know, I'm struggling with something. Like, there's much articles that pop up. So it's made me want to really protect what, like, protect my pregnancy and everything around it. But when it comes to me personally, I think it's like I love opening up a chair about like what, like mentally I'm going through. My physical body changes and like that kind of a thing. Because I think that's also what women want to hear. Like I don't think other moms necessarily care about like the gender of the baby or what my due date is or what like whatever anything is.

I think they want to know what I'm walking through in my pregnancy because that's what like that's what I want to watch. Like not that I don't care like not that I don't care about when your due date is or what you know, I didn't even know the gender of your baby until after we did, you know, ours. but after we didn't the squeeze. But it's just I want to know like what your experience was like with the C-section. What was breastfeeding like? And what was this like. Like that's more of like what I want to know. So I think that's like more important.

How do you feel about articles being made? Like is that a good thing, a bad thing? I mean, I would love to not have it to a degree. I mean, there's fun to it. But also, you know, people can take a sentence of anything you say and make it anything they want. Has it happened before? Yeah, for sure. I mean, I feel really lucky that I have, like, such a great audience.

And I feel like our lemon drops, the squeeze listeners, and just, like, my audience on socials. Like, it's just a bunch of support and love. And it's truly the best thing. And it's just been really special to share about what I have, like, what I'm going through. Because so many other women have been, like, yeah, I'm, like, walking through that same thing or I agree. So it's been, it's been special to do that. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Summertime is here, but sometimes that means disrupting your routine, which can throw you into a mental funk.

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That's been like a common conversation that we've had. You know, I've obviously never been pregnant. I thought it was cool how you were able to like open up about the fact that you've never judge someone for their body or look negatively upon like a pregnant person for their body, but then you going through that yourself, then everything changed. Can you talk more about that? Yeah. No, it was definitely, I think, um, my little, like, pessimist saying, um, that when I was just feeling all the feels in my first trimester was, I was just like, pregnancy is propaganda. Like, none of this is fun. Like, what if this is fun? Like, I'm, I know

I'm going to get through the first trimester and then it's going to be enjoyable, but like, nothing right now is like enjoyable about this. It was really the first time that I really struggled with my body image and comparison to some degree because like I said, like I, I've never looked at another pregnant woman and been like, oh my gosh, like look at her arm. Like I've never, I've never like questioned someone's like body while they're pregnant. I'm like, oh my gosh, look at them. Look at their belly. Like that's so amazing. They're pregnant. Like that those are like, I'm like, they're glowing. Like it's only positive thoughts that I ever have towards pregnant women. And, then I got pregnant and then I didn't have any of those thoughts.

So it was it was something that I even still I think I'm probably going to have to work through. And I think a lot of women, you know, are learning to walk through as they're pregnant. And I think it probably will feel different my next pregnancy because I have been through it. So I like know what to expect. But I just like did not know what to expect at all with it like how how my body was going to react. where I was going to get a stretch mark, where I was going to gain weight, like what it was going to look like. So yeah, it's definitely been like an interesting thing. But it was really cool because so many women literally, I've never had so many messages in my life from after sharing that, women messaging me about that.

So many pregnant women were like, I've literally felt this exact same way right now. Like, thank you for sharing that. And I felt so validated to a degree because it's not just me that was feeling that. way so many other women were what's your go-to outfit right now this that sweatsuit sweat set yeah it's getting summer so I'm like oh boy like I don't know how that's gonna um or like a nap dress like a hill house like it just a southern little have you heard of that brand of dresses they're kind of pricey but my girlfriend got me on to them they literally like the material last like I've literally had this dress for like six years six years um they're the most

comfortable thing and I fit in the same size like pre-pregnancy when I was like my smallest to like still now and I there's still like room for me to grow so it's like very universal so this and like a sundress it will change your life what's funny is like the evolution of like how I've dressed during pregnancy because I think the first I was like I wanted to wear maternity clothes specifically and the second I don't even I think I just wore big t-shirts this one has been a bit of a bump out pregnancy. I feel like my bump has been exposed a lot, which is funny because my bump is not in, um, to top shape. I've had a double hernia repair. I got new stretch marks. I got mesh here. Things just aren't as round as they used to be. I like the bump though.

Thank you. And I'm like, it's just the evolution. I truly do believe like it changes over time. And postpartum is a whole different experience too, like with your body. Something you said on the squeeze, we had a conversation prior to this on the squeeze and the intensated. Our emotions, our thoughts are so complex. Like, we're able to hold the negative and the positive at the exact same time. I feel like my relationship with my body and, uh, like, it's like you can hold the positive of like, yeah, my body's doing something immaculate. Like the actual purpose of my body is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, my mind right now. Yeah. Do I like the visual aspect of this right now all the time? Am I, like, super happy with the changes that I'm seeing physically in it? Like, maybe not. And I think that, um,

Sometimes that's uncomfortable for people to grapple with the both and. And you said that really well. So I also do think that like going through birth too will totally change your first. Maybe not. Because I feel like also when postpartum is when I was like struggling too with my body. Because I was like I gave my, I extended grace for myself when I was pregnant. I was like, you're growing a baby now. So it's going to look different.

But then postpartum I was like, why do I expect the same thing of my body now afterwards? That was profound. Like the negative and the positive, we can hold both and you can hold them at the same time. Yeah. I think that's something we need to like talk about more. And I think other women that have walked through pregnancy aren't the people that are leaving like the nasty comments and like saying like you're ungrateful. Like how dare you say like you don't like your body. You're growing a baby.

Like you're ungrateful. I don't think that's the other pregnant women that have like and moms that have walked through this before leaving those comments. I think it's probably men and women that haven't. walked through it. And I think you definitely just have a big perception change with it. And both can coexist. That's what I'm learning. Like you can have both a negative and a positive emotion to everything. What's the biggest change you've noticed with moving into the second trimester now? That I can like feel like a human again. Oh good. You're feeling better. Yeah. No, definitely like feeling better and have my energy back, which is great because I was really struggling. So I was definitely

like came out of a hole and was like, oh, the sun is shining and I'm alive. And I feel like I was actually able to process my emotions more, which was great. And my therapist probably would agree with that because I was like, I had texted me like, I need to see you because these hormones are not being friendly right now. But no, I'm definitely like feeling better, which is great. Obviously, like, you know, symptoms go and then other things come, but I'm able to, like, fully, like, I just got back from, like, a week in New York doing, like, press and work. So, like, I would not have been able to do that in my first trimester at all, even a little bit. So it's nice being able to, like, do things again. Do you think you and Taylor are going to do a baby moon of some sort?

That's honestly a great question. We have not figured that one out. You haven't planned it yet. Yeah, no. I know. We might just do, like, a staycation, just like a little weekend thing. I don't know. I know. You should go to Cabo. That's where we've gone a lot. We've gone there, I think, three times now for Baby Moons. And it's awesome. I've actually heard, I actually do feel like a lot of people either go to Cabo on Baby Moon or they go to Cabo and then they get pregnant.

Oh. Yeah. That's a good place to get pregnant. You've had this major shift now marrying a movie star. You're in the spotlight. You also have your podcast, which has brought a spotlight to you as well. Now you're having a kid. So how do you plan to navigate fame, all of that with having a child?

Have you, if you guys had a conversation about that? Yeah, I think to some degree. I also think there's just a lot of like unspoken things that we both agree on. I think we're both just going to keep, you know, doing our jobs and not have our kids a part of that. The internet is, I've just learned is such a scary place to have kids. And, you know, I have friends that share their kids all the time. and I love seeing their kids on the internet. But for me personally, like, I don't think that's, like, what I want to do, but I could

change my mind and I could want to do that. But at this point in time, that's just like, it's just like a level of privacy. I feel like that and my baby's in my body and, like, no one could see my baby yet. So, like, it's just, it's definitely, like, a new level of unknown for sure. Like, I do think about, like, if we go out, like, someone's going to take, like, a photo of our baby. Like I like there's just like so many little thoughts like that. I'm like that you have to like think about to protect them. Yeah.

That's a bummer to have to. Yeah. Yeah. I think okay correct me if I'm wrong is has the media gotten better though about celebrities kids because they're not going to just like on people magazine show a kid's face of a celebrity with like that like that that's not really a thing anymore. Right? I yes there has been.

Oh there has been. There has been a shift. Okay. Like protecting kids privacy and I definitely think I know. I was actually thinking. I'm like, do you have to like alert people? Like, don't post my kids' face. Like, how do you, like, I don't think you do.

That's probably just me being dumb. But like... Just like have your kid hold an emoji, like, thing over their face when you're walking around in public. No, I don't think you're allowed to share kids. I was making a stupid joke. No, but I'm saying I don't think you're allowed to share kids. Yeah. Or maybe it's more of like a culture shift.

Because I don't know if there's actually a law around that. I don't think, I don't know if there's a law, but I think it's definitely like a call. Like, I don't know because the tabloids could literally like it's news. Like they could do whatever they want. I know they definitely used to, but I think people are just being kinder about it to a degree. At what age do you think you're going to show your kid Shark Boy and Lava Girl? I mean, that's a good question. She's like, I probably thought of that.

Yeah, I mean, probably sooner than later. That thing, it's so crazy how that movie has literally just, like, not lost, like, its charm at all with kids. Like, even I have friends that have little kids and that we'll put it on for them. Like, it's just, it's so, it's just, it stands. a test of time. It's so crazy. Now I feel convicted. We haven't shown our three-year-old and two-year-old shark boy and love girl. I showed them Jimmy Neutron a couple weeks ago. They're obsessed with Jimmy Neutron and I bet you if we showed them Shark Boy. They tell me they're like got a blast.

Oh my gosh. They watched Jimmy Neutron yesterday. They watched it yesterday. So that's so sweet. And honestly, like you said, stood the test of time because I remember that movie was playing while I was making dinner. And it's like, why do I remember quotes from this? Like that guy's friends I'm peeing in the shower. I was like, why do I remember this? Wait, that's so funny. Also, this is such a dumb show. Okay.

Okay, I want to say this, though. Have you seen, here's my idea for you guys. I think you need to show your kid as they grow up the movie, but not say anything. Like, just don't say anything at all. And let them figure out, like, wait, is that, is that dad? I have question that, like, it's really fun for my friend's kids, like, that have watched the movies. Like she has, he's probably six or seven now, but he was probably four at the time

when she had showed him Shark Boy and Lama Girl. And like Taylor would have come and she'd be like, this is Shark Boy. And he'd be like, that's not Shark Boy. Like Shark Boy is a kid. Shark man. Yeah. So it's such, it's like a funny like thing to think about how kids like comprehend that is like really cute.

Yeah. They're very literal, I feel like. Yeah. Like nope. Yeah. Very matter. Well, you know, I think there was something viral about The Rock showing his daughter, Moana. Yes.

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feel the drowning feeling. Like I'm expecting that. So hopefully it's like a little better. I'm really going into it open-minded about the breastfeeding. Like I have friends, I have a girlfriend whose baby was allergic to her breast milk. Yeah, that happens. So, like, and I had never heard of that before. So I'm going to have formula. I'm just going to try, like, everything. Like, I just, I don't, like, really, really care at this point.

Like, I'm just, like, whatever, however the baby gets fed, I'm like, great. Are you having any, like, weird pregnancy cravings at all? I know. That's such a good question. I mean, well, I did just buy some Girl Scout cookies, so maybe like Girl Scout cookies, but that's always a craving. I know. I don't know. I had, during my first trimester, watermelon was like my huge thing because it was like light and refreshing. I ate so much watermelon. That was like my favorite thing and that definitely could like get me through the day. Anything that's like, but I think this is like a universal, like anything that is like tangy or Have you had the Jersey Mike's pregnancy sub?

Is it where you heat up the meat? No, it's like banana peppers and like it's just like the vinegary taste. Oh, I have it. It's basically just, it's just without deli meat. You should, you should definitely. It has bacon. Okay. But it's bacon, so you can have bacon.

That's why I like Jersey Mikes with pregnancy for Abby, because, yeah, they have all these, like, cooked sandwiches. You have hot sandwiches. I guess I think Subway probably has that too. Yeah. I think Jersey Mikes is better than some way. Jersey Mikes has like a, it's like a hot pepper relish, I think it's called, that goes on this pregnancy sub. Just look it, just look it up on the internet. I found it somewhere from someone posting it.

Amy, spicy. I agree. That does kind of. Yeah. Or like just a little like, like a little drink. Like a, I love like a midday little just like spin drift or like a macha or something. Yeah. A little mottail.

Yeah. Something I was thinking about too is, you know, given Taylor's background and being a child actor, there's probably that potential one day that your kid could say, hey, I want to do a movie, I want to audition for something. Am I thinking way too far out there? Have you guys even thought about anything like that with? No, I mean, we've definitely talked about it. I mean, yeah, it's something that I think is probably inevitable because I danced my entire life and did theater as a little kid. So I think we're definitely bound to have a child at some point that wants to do something in the arts. Yeah. No, I think.

that's something that if they want to explore it will obviously allow them to, but it's not something we're going to push for at all. Yeah. Yeah. It's whatever. Like with any, any sport, we're going to put them in all of the things and have them do all the things, but definitely not pushing for it. And do you like living in California? Do you think you'd ever move back to the Midwest? Because you guys are both from Midwest. I'm from here. Taylor's from Michigan. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, I'm from, I'm from Tokyo. Taylor's, um, Taylor's, Michigan. So you guys, are never moving then. Your whole... I know. There was a part, there was a time where we were like, maybe we would move, but I feel like I just have such great community around me right now that

if I didn't, then maybe we would, but my best friend is also moving back from Austin to back here. So I'm very excited about that because we've been long distance. But yeah, I know, I don't know. I never say never. I would, if my friends wanted to move somewhere, I'd probably move with them. But no, we're pretty happy here. Something I was surprised that you said earlier, we're like talking about a future pregnancy. You are an only child. And I know that you've talked openly like you're like, like, I don't like love being pregnant. I was surprised to hear that you're like already open to like future pregnancies. It hasn't been enough to say I'll never do this again, apparently. Yeah. I don't. No, I definitely want more than one because I was one and I

wanted a friend. Yeah. I think also just because I didn't have. have cousins or anything like my around my age like no one was really close to me in age at all so I was just with the grownups the whole time so yeah I mean I definitely would want another one I also feel like I'm gonna see my baby and be like it's like just obsessed that it's literally like part of my husband in a child form and be like okay I'll take another so I could see both of us being like okay but yeah no I'm definitely definitely open to it that's something that I do want But then, you know, the other day I told Taylor, I was like, what if I only want to have one? He was like, okay, like, whatever you want to.

Yeah, I'm like, thank you for the sport. You just need to hear that right now. That's sweet. That's really sweet. Have you been using pregnancy to get taken care of? Oh, that's what I do. Oh, yeah. I like turn the lights on, I can't get up.

Yeah. No, Taylor's definitely been the most helpful. He's so funny. I'll ask him for like a couple of things. He's like, do you need anything before I sit down? And I'm like, no, I'm okay, no. But no, he's been so helpful with, like, everything. It's been great.

He definitely did, like, everything for me in the first. And now it's, like, 50, 50 sometimes, like, when it's, he knows when it's nighttime. I'm like, okay, I'm done moving. Like, I'm on the couch for watching a show. Like, I need ice in my water. I need, like, a snack. Like, you can, yep. Yeah.

That amount of ice is really important. Yep. Yep. I remember, like, I was like, this was, when we first, I'm here, like, this is so fun. Now I can just, like, happy to do anything. And you do. You're great about it. I feel like we're just, you get, we married well.

We got guys that I want to take care of us. Do you think when it comes to like everything about labor, delivery, and postpartum can be a little graphic? Yeah. How do you think he's going to handle that? That is a great question. My friends husband passed out in the delivery. Oh, God. Wait, I forgot about that.

He was snoring when the baby came out. So I'd say there's a, and Matt watched the entire thing and wanted to. Like, there's such a range. Like, what do you anticipate? I think he'll be fine. I think he'll like, I think normally medical stuff makes him like a little like, eh, but I think that's, I don't think to the point where he would pass out. But I also think when the husband is in the role of like, I'm like, I'm supporting, like my wife needs me. Yeah, like they're like, it's like a different role than just like if, you know, if Taylor were to be going in

and like getting surgery or like getting an IV, like blood drawn or something. Like it's a different type of scenario. Like there like is purpose for him being there. He needs. needs like I need his support he needs to like be there so I think I think he'll be fine you're like you know I mean I guess we'll find out I was always like you don't have to but you're like I don't want to like yeah have you guys ever been to the hospital together for some reason ever like any any injuries any surgeries once we have um but I ended up being fine I was having like a weird hard thing no I mean we've been to like doctor's appointment like a lot of doctors together but nothing like crazy serious. He actually was with me, well, obviously not in the room, but he came

with me. I had to get a colonoscopy very early on in our relationship. And he was like with me through that. The recovery is quick, especially when you have like actual anesthesia. Like it's just a procedure. But we've gone to it like a couple things like that. So nothing too graphic. But he didn't pass out. He did not. No. It does bond you like being in like being so vulnerable. like together to it's a really cool thing to walk you took care of me when I got my wisdom teeth out in college

that's true you had a couple things that have gotten you down for the couch the calm and cold no just kidding oh yeah question when Taylor's sick does it bother you because I feel like that's a common thing like if I'm sick I feel like Abby's just automatically pissed off yeah the men the men are just I feel like that is a common thing

I just have to text my friends like Matt's sick and everyone's like I can't. It's honestly, that's, that's one of the best things about marriage is, like, or having married friends is that the married, my girlfriends now, like, when the husbands get sick, like, they're just like,

it's not even fake. That's real. I just hit some harder. We have friends that were, like, obsessed with their dogs before having kids. They were just, like, beloved dog parents. Good, yeah. And then they had a baby,

and the dogs just took the vaccine. They started hacking their dog. Yeah. Yeah, they didn't really like their dog as much. How do you feel about that? There's no way in the world that's happening. I'm going on record. Our dogs really, like our kids, especially like our puppy.

Like she, I mean, she's not a puppy. She's five now, but our younger dog, she's a Belgian Malin-law. So she's, like, a very smart dog. She's, like, part human. Like, we bring her everywhere. She travels with us. Like, she's, like, she understands English. Like, she, my other dog is like a house cat.

Like, she just kind of, like, does her own thing. And she just, like, does sleep and vice. and just, you know, plays a little, then sleeps. So she's just like our house cat. So, and I love her, but nothing will, there's no, like, missing interaction there. But our younger one, for sure is, like, she's, like, part human and wants to be, like, involved in it in everything. That's what I'm excited about to, like.

Do you think she'll be good around the baby? Yeah. And I think they both, I think they're both going to have to, like, obviously learn because they haven't really, like, been around kids. But I'm, I'm excited to, like, watch that whole journey because I think they're going to be great. How do you feel about like this, I feel weird asking this question, but like breastfeeding? I've taken all of the advice of friends that have done, have breastfed and done formula.

And I have friends that, you know, when pregnancy did formula, when breastfed and then they switched or like whatever it is. I just, I think I'm just really going into it open-minded because I don't want to have a plan and then that plan not work and then get frustrated with it. Like I'm just really trying to like, I'm going to see like a lactation consultant and still like try. Like so it's just, you know, maybe it's not for me or maybe the baby doesn't latch. Like it's just, there's just so many things that, you know, could or could not happen. So I'm really just trying to go into it, like open-minded. Has there ever been a point in your life where you had a plan and it didn't go according to plan? Because it sounds like you're not wanting to plan because of that in a way.

Yeah. I think I just am like a planner. And I think that I don't know if there's anything like specifically that stands out, but I definitely like a plan and like to stick to the plan. So I think I'm maybe trying with this to be as no plan as possible when it comes to the breastfeeding formula thing. I want to be prepared either way. I honestly think that's what it is.

I want to know how both work and be prepared either way. And when the time comes, I'll know how to do both. That's funny. We'll see. I don't know. It's reminding me of the type of Instagram or the type of feed I'm getting right now. I'm on type B mom, TikTok. Yeah, what I'd with, but on Instagram, do you think that you're going to be more of a type A mom?

It sounds like you might be more of a type A mom or? I'm definitely able to be a type A mom, I think. I mean, I could change, who knows, but I, yeah, I mean, that's just my personality is that. Yeah, you're like, that's how my sister-in-law is. We have a type A mom and two type B moms. Oh, yeah. Sometimes I do think that I'm like, that I don't know what type that was. That was just, that was some type of mom.

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everything is like so like I just I do my dishes I do my laundry very normal like I don't have a bunch of staff running around everywhere doing things so that's what people assume is that you've got you've got all these people that are doing everything for you and yeah a couple years ago I posted something that I don't know what I posted something that oh I was putting laundry I think I was putting stuff in the wash and then there was a bug in the hamper and Taylor, like, I don't, I forget what it was. It was something like that. And people were like, you do your own laundry. I was like, what? Like, it was the funniest thing to me. But yeah, no, just it's very, like, we're going to finish them. I'm going to go, you know, eat the other half of my

Jersey Mike sandwich and go let my dogs out and just like probably put the dishes away. Like, it's just very, like, normal. Yeah, what, what is your day today? Like, are you a homebody for the most part? Yes, because I work from home. But I do, I like, you know, I love a target run. I love, like, getting out of the house and, like, doing little things like that, especially now being pregnant. I haven't gotten out of the house as much because I don't. That's just, like, a little bit too much work for me to, like, get out. But then again, I just got back from New York. I was literally gone. So it comes in waves. But yeah, I mean, I'm definitely a home body, especially because, you know, my husband's done home and he's not working. So especially now that we're just really, like, savoring time,

just the two of us. Speaking of work, I saw you did a brand deal with Chipotle, which was hilarious. Yes. I'm so curious, was this your idea? Was this someone at Chipotle's idea that they pitched to you? We love Chipotle. No, we just had like this really funny parisocial relationship with the Chipotle account for like a really long time.

And they love Taylor. And yeah, he just did this really cool. Their Chipotle honey chicken is like, it's back. It's good. I've had it before. It actually is really good. Like, I really enjoy it. Are you more of like a tacos person, like burrito person?

I get, I will, okay. I get, I'm a bowl person from Chipotle, but that's, well, technically I order the salad if I'm ordering it like through Postmates. Because that's how you can get the vinaigarette. But if I'm in store, I'll get a bowl because the vinaigarette is the cherry on top for me. And then whose idea was it to have this giant guacamole bowl with Taylor like in the in the top? That was, that was Chipotle. Taylor responded to something of theirs about the guac and was like I could bathe in this stuff. And they then came over and brought a giant bathtub of guac with a little like figure.

It's technically an action figure. I called it a figurine. But like Taylor from the Twilight franchise in the thing. And I truly just ate guac for about five days. And then it went bad so that I had to throw it out. It was devastating. Yeah. Abby's brother used to work at Chipotle.

and I would like request that he would make the guac because he just knew how. And he knew all the recipes like in his head. Yeah. Like at our house you'd be like, Blake, do the Jopoli. Make us a burrito. That's so good. I love it.

So annoyed. We love Chauly. It actually takes some fun time. Yep. And being in New York, can we talk about what brought you out there? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

No, I got to do just a lot of fun press. I mean, May's Mental Health Awareness Month that's probably come out after May's over. But that's kind of just my Super Bowl. So I got to do a lot of fun, a lot of fun press and interviews. And I got to partner with Little Words Project, which is a little bracelet company. We have a bracelet that's out that says you got this for mental health awareness. It's actually out for a while.

But $5 from every bracelet go towards the Lemon Foundation, which is my nonprofit. So we teamed up on a bracelet for that. And then I do a lot of work with Mabelene, too. They have a Brave Together program, which does a lot of really awesome stuff in the mental health space. and we partnered together on a summit last year, and I got to host a brunch with them in New York, and we're doing some other stuff here in LA too, which is really fun.

So yeah, it was great. And I love New York, so literally any excuse to get me there, I'm like, get me there. I love it. And your nonprofit, tell me more about like the mission, the vision of it. Because it's been around now for a couple years, right? Yeah, I think, I'm like trying to do,

I started it in like the middle of 2022, but it's a mental health-based nonprofit. It's really just focused on making mental health, like, accessible and approachable and digestible. I think mental health can definitely be, like, a big scary thing, especially after going through COVID. So many of us were struggling, whether, you know, I worked as a nurse, anyone, even if you were just, you know, at home unemployed, like, not working. You were struggling with your mental health. So I'm really big on just making resources accessible. And, like, I think there's a lot.

of beauty in the little things like little breathing techniques or how to like practice gratitude like little things to just incorporate in your day so that's what we focus on in connecting people with the resources that they need whether that's for you know sexual assault survivors people with drug addiction moms like we on our website we have like all like there's basically just a bunch of categories and we have resources for kind of for everything so just kind of the middle of man to help connect the dots and make life a little easier obviously you know your nonprofit is it's clearly doing cool things to help spread the word, raise awareness about mental health and, you know, depression, all those things. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you, you lost a friend to

suicide a couple years ago, but, you know, five, ten years ago. We've also lost a friend to suicide back in college. And I'm curious just from like an advocacy standpoint, what, like, is there a certain charity or organization, you know, in addition to your nonprofit that you're like, I like this is this is like I really like what they do I don't know if there's yeah oh I know there's so many and there's that's it's really cool because there is so many fun like organizations that like smaller ones that have popped up over the past few years that are really just like talking about things I mean the biggest one is NAMI they're the National Alliance of Mental Illness they're all over the US I have friends that have literally personally walked into like Anami Center and been connected with like help to find either a peer to peer support group or professional help.

So they do a lot of awesome stuff. There's there's honestly like so many. There's Project Healthy Minds. There's a lot. Honestly go to Lemons by Tate. That's our Instagram. We basically just follow and the collab with all of those accounts. Yeah.

That's so cool. Yeah, and so many of them now have like social media too, which is great. And that's like how we get our information these days. Yeah. Because I think like it's cool that there's a suicide hotline that you can call. Yeah. Yeah. It's cool to know there's resources out there.

Yeah. That's sweet. For sure. What's like the vision for 2026 for with the foundation. Yeah. With your podcast. Because is the podcast directly tied to the foundation? No.

No. They are their own things. I mean, just more mental health stuff. I mean, mental health as a mom is going to be something that I'm going to walk through for the first time and share. So, yeah, that's kind of, I'm leaving 2026 open. See what I, how I'm feeling. Well, I mean, I'm probably going to have my baby and then be excited to go back to work to some degree. But I'm not putting any pressure on work, but just more mental health stuff.

I have so many ideas of events I want to do in community outreach. And I love my job, too. like both of these, both the podcast and my foundation are my jobs. So it's literally the best thing. I love it. Okay, we got a little bit of a game we want to play with you. Perfect. It's called this or that.

Yes. These are just fun, rapid fire. Okay. Easy pregnancy ones. Okay. Have your cravings been more sweet or salty? Yeah. Depends on the day today.

Today was a Girl Scout cookie day, so sweet. Sweet for sure. This is telling us things that we need to note. No, I'm just kidding. Huge meals or constant. and snacks. Snacks, but honestly, that hasn't, that's been like my life. I have always been a snacky girl, but now it's just more snacks and larger portions of snacks.

Bigger snacks more often. Yep. What's up of snacks or what you're going for? Literally anything, everything. Do you feel super hungry? Yes. My first trimester, I literally, the hunger was hunger I've never experienced before. And this has gotten better.

Like, I, it was probably, like, for the first, like, three, three, three. honestly almost maybe four months I was literally waking every time I'd wake up in the morning I would need to eat a bar like right away like I would need to eat something I get crackers by the bed now now it's better now if I have like a proper dinner then I can wake up and like be okay but we can make the breakfast yeah we can we can make it downstairs and make the food that's awesome this one I feel like we already kind of touched on this but Pinterest mom or survival mom I wouldn't I'm in a manifest of Pinterest for me that feels right okay great matching family pajamas are absolutely not of on Christmas

just Christmas yeah yeah I haven't don't call me on that I haven't thought that far I don't know but create a baby at Christmas I know I keep seeing little memes of like people holding a cat and like pretending it's like they're like it's a

match the baby with the dogs oh yeah we're on it oh I Taylor and I have matched with our dogs before so you're for sure gonna do the pajamas yeah well yeah that's that's our Christmas tradition so that one will say but I don't know everyday life.

Yeah, I feel like maybe that's a little bit much. Homemade baby food or Costco pouches? Oh, I'm a both. I think I'm going to enjoy both, but I also think there's beauty and just a little grab-and-go, little squeezy guy. Schedule day nights or spontaneous moments. I'm assuming it's like proposed baby. Like, what do you?

Yeah. I love a schedule, so I've already told Taylor, like, I'm about to start, like, literally just penciling in a time. That's great. If you leave it up, then it doesn't happen. It really won't. It's what I've been learning from people that, when I ask people for their mom advice and just, like, wife advice, they're like, just, like, schedule the time. I'm truly honest.

It's been maybe a, maybe a month for us. We should go on a date right now. After this podcast, let's go on a date before our... You can go to Air One. We should go to Air One. You can go to Air One. Let's go to Airwant for a date. Get the fancy smoothie.

Or we could go to the place. Yeah, we could get the Haley Beaver's movie. Or we could go to the place our Uber driver told us about on the way here. My son, I can't do my ex. again. That guy, bless him. This sounds great, but not for where we're at right now. Team sleep training or we'll just figure it out.

I think sleep training. All my friends have done it and they say great things. They're probably sleeping. They are sleeping. That's why they love it. More scared for labor or the sleep deprivation? Labor. Yeah.

Not that I have, I'm not even going to compare my experience of lack of sleep to what I'm about to go through. But I think working night shifts and really- You can compare that. That's hardcore. You can, yeah, that's hardcore. I have dealt with lack of sleep, but like, it's not a new thing for me. Yeah.

So. Sleep deprivation is literally a form of torture. So I, you know, you have every right to complain about that. That sounds. Yeah. Honestly, I will be straight up with you. The sleep deprivation is the worst part about the newborn stage. Yeah.

But it's temporary. But you also never went through labor. So I also, and that's true. Put a cork in that. I'm going to stop it right there. I'm just kidding. I should say, like, Matt, let's just put this out there. Matt literally did all of the nights with both of our babies.

I did not see him or the baby, except for when it came in defeat and changed a diaper. Like, you, so, like, Matt has more trauma from that than me because I didn't see it. So I have to give you a shout out because that's also very unusual. Most dads do not do that. Like, you crushed that. Thank you. Ready you again? Anything for you?

Anything for you? Mom group chats are absolutely never. Mom group chat, absolutely. I've been in one for a very long time. This final one we can already end. So formula rest freeing, you're saying whatever the baby wants. Whenever the baby wants the baby will get. Perfect.

We'll have all of the things ready. I'll be ready. I'll be ready. Yeah, that was one of the things that really shocked me postpartum with our first was a breast pump. I was like, you mean to tell me? me, I'm going to stick this thing on there. It's going to suck it up and then milk is going to come out. I remember just be like, that's gnarly. Yeah. No, I, yeah. I don't even like know where to begin with that. It's crazy. It's going to be a great experience. It'll be a great experience. I can't wait.

I can't wait to learn. It'll be great. Tay, this has been amazing. Thank you again for coming back on the show. And everyone go check out the squeeze Tay's mental health podcast as well as you can find like find her on all the socials, TikTok, Instagram, all that good stuff. And be sure to like this episode if you liked it. Like, comment, subscribe, all the fun things. You're so excited for you. Yes, so excited. Hoping it's a very seamless, peaceful experience for you. I got you. Yeah, thank you.