The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - TikTok's "Steak Girl" : Engaged w/ a baby

Episode Date: August 19, 2026

Kaydee Church, better known online as “the steak girl,” and her fiancé Tyson join us to talk about unexpectedly getting pregnant at 20, becoming parents before marriage, and navigating their new ...life in the public eye. They open up about their daughter’s scary trip to the NICU, losing $12,000 in a TikTok scam, dealing with judgment online, and how viral fame has changed their lives. Our Place: Upgrade your kitchen with Our Place—visit https://fromourplace.com/UNPLANNED and use code UNPLANNED for 10% off sitewide, plus enjoy a 100-day risk-free trial. Osea: Get 10% off your first order sitewide at https://oseamalibu.com with code UNPLANNED. NOBL: NOBL gives you real travel peace of mind — security, design, and convenience all in one. Head to https://NOBLTravel.com for 46% off your entire order! #NOBL #adventure Betterhelp Visit https://betterhelp.com/unplannedpodcast #adventure Chilipad: Visit https://www.sleep.me/UNPLANNED to get up to $255 off your Chilipad 2.0 with code UNPLANNED, plus free shipping and a 30-day sleep trial. Kaydee insta: @kaydeechurch Follow The Unplanned Podcast: https://www.instagram.com/unplanned__podcast/ https://www.tiktok.com/@unplanned_podcast Listen to the pod on Spotify/ Apple Podcasts: https://open.spotify.com/show/1ToDA4ufQuWuEgMq07zN6t https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-unplanned-podcast/id1669604504 Follow Matt & Abby: Abby's Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/abbyelizabethoward/ Matt's Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/_matt_howard_/ TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@matt_and_abby Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/mattandabb YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/@MattandAbby Mascara is sold out! Thank you guys so much! Sign up here for updates on restock: https://www.biswell-beauty.com/ Chapters: 00:53 - Carnivore diet 04:02 - Starting a family young 05:38 - Meet cute 07:10 - Living with family 08:12 - Going viral 16:35 - Finding out we were pregnant 25:42 - My first pregnancy 36:18 - Getting engaged 38:20 - Planning our wedding 46:00 - Online backlash 48:00 - Finding out the gender of my baby 49:00 - Postpartum 48:53 - Breastfeeding 01:00:35 - Making content together 01:04:30 - Brant Rivera Collab 01:08:13 - Audience questions 01:20:17 - Who's More Likely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:26 You probably know Katie Church as the state girl from TikTok, where her videos have earned her millions of followers. She was secretive, she's like, I'm posting videos, but you can't watch them. What were you thinking there? Behind the viral videos, Katie was navigating an unexpected pregnancy at just 20 years old, getting engaged and becoming a first-time parent
Starting point is 00:00:45 with millions of people watching. I just didn't feel ready at that time. Like being a mom is something I've always dreamt of. I also didn't want the child to be the reason we get married. Katie, along with her fiance Tyson, talk with us about the judgment they face for having a baby before marriage. daughter's terrifying trip to the NICU losing $12,000 to a scam and the cost of going viral all on today's episode.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Katie and Tyson, welcome to Unplanned. Yay! Yay! I'm excited for this one. No, me too. Yes. You're on the carnivore diet, right? Like, that's all you eat is steak?
Starting point is 00:01:19 No. No. So you eat other stuff other than steak? Yeah. Really? Okay. Were you ever on a carnivore diet? I was for a little bit and that's when I even, like, started. So that's why it all started with the steak videos.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Yeah. Yeah. you ate for breakfast, lunch, and dinner with steak? No, just like meats. Okay. I would eat like eggs and bacon and steak. I'm telling you it didn't last long. It was for like maybe three weeks. More than a month? Maybe
Starting point is 00:01:43 more than a month. Okay, okay. But yeah. You did it too? I tried. I got sick. Why did you get sick? I will, because... You'll feel sick at first when you start. Like, the first couple days. If you don't eat carbs, like basically carnivore, you're training your body to like burn fat
Starting point is 00:01:59 for calories. Okay. But we're used to like burning sugars and carbs. So I just felt like I was going to pass out and die. So I, like, ordered a bowl of rice and just ate it. And then she kept going for weeks and weeks and weeks. And I would, like, I was tempting her every day. I was like, please eat this avocado. Yeah, he would put something in front of me every day that I love.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Like, he was like, please eat this. But, like, it wasn't. Is it like kind of, I don't know. I just wanted to go out to dinner with her and she's just like so strict. But I knew it wasn't something that I wanted to do for a long time. Like I was just trying to deal with like skin issues I was going through and I had tried so many different things and then finally that was like one of the last things I was like okay I'll do that like I just struggled with really bad acne after I graduated high school and once I started it I think all my acne was gone in like two weeks after I did that. Your skin is beautiful. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I don't do it anymore but like I tried to treat it outside for a long time and then finally like I was like okay I'll treat it from the inside and then that was like I'll treat it from the inside and then that was like my last. thing. I was like, okay, I'll try this and see if it worked. And then it worked for me. I know it doesn't work for a lot of people, but I mean, I felt way better about myself. And then I started posting videos. All at the same time. Pretty much all of the same time. Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, but Tyson, you grew up as a vegan, right? Kind of? For like half my life? You were a vegan for half your life. So how do you go from being a vegan to then being married to the state grill. Well, I, like my family was vegan because my dad had some health problems. Okay. So that's like what started it with my mom cooking that way. But even like when they were doing that, like I would go
Starting point is 00:03:41 to school and like I was trying to get like anything I could. Yeah. I was never like fully doing it like my family. Do you like got into? But when I was at home, I was. Okay. So it's great. It's great. I love, you know, eating meat. I was scared. to eat with his parents, like, or just with his family at first. Yeah, they're. Oh, because they're still eating vegan. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And you were like, what am I going to do? Well, I was just the only one at the table ordering a steak, you know, which is fine. Like, they're the nicest people. How old are you guys, by the way? Because I feel like people probably ask that a lot. Yeah. Because, you know, you guys were like a young couple, uh, fresh, fresh on the scene on social media.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I was telling them before this, when I saw a video where you brought up Maple. I was like, no way. I know. She has a baby. You probably get that a lot of people in public. Yeah. They're like, are you a babysitter? She's not even my baby.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah. For sure. They definitely think you're the nanny. I know. They do. But no, she's mine. I'm 21. I'm 26.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Nice. Yeah, this is a bit of an age gap. How did you guys meet? Like, what's your, what's your origin story? I work. At work. You worked at a restaurant, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Where, okay, so we actually live in the same area. Yeah. Have you said you live in a blue 32? Blue 32? I feel like I have heard of that. Bar and Grill. There's four locations. Yeah, I think they have one.
Starting point is 00:05:04 There's one in Mesa, Gilbert, Chandler. I think there's two in Gilbert. For anybody listening, we live 20 minutes away for each other. Yeah, we just didn't know. We didn't know. We reached out to Katie and then she's like, oh, I literally live right by you guys. So that's so cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:18 So you guys met at a restaurant and then were you guys just like service together or like, how did that all come back? Not at first. Okay. Do you want me to talk? I can tell it if you want me to? I'll start it. So I had broke my foot. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And I lost my job because of that. So I went like two months without working. Oh gosh. I was just like healing. Yeah. And then I always wanted to be a bartender. Okay. I just thought it would be fun.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yeah. So I was trying to find a place where I could do that. And I went and applied there, got the job. I was there when he applied. Yeah. He was. Nice. She was a host. But yeah, we didn't really start talking at all for like, I worked there for like a year. We didn't really talk. Like he was in a relationship. So we were just co-workers. Okay. And then he became really close with my brother and he was like my brother's friend. So I'd see him hanging around my brother. Like he would come to our house sometimes.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Does that weird your brother out when you guys started dating? Was he was like, this is not cool. Oh, my brother was furious. No way. Really? He like, I wouldn't say it waited about. Didn't talk to me. didn't talk to him. No way. He was not happy. No. How long did that last?
Starting point is 00:06:31 It's still going on. No, it's still going on. Well, he like kind of loosened up a little bit when Maple came. Okay. So he's like, this is a day in the equation now. Yeah. The first year was bad though. Yeah, there's no communication.
Starting point is 00:06:45 You guys just like Thanksgiving. And then with them, not at all. What happened at Thanksgiving? Yeah, what happened at Thanksgiving? Oh, he walked in and James walked out. Same name with Christmas. Was it just one of those classic things of, you don't date my sister?
Starting point is 00:07:01 Yeah, there was no bad blood, no vendetta whatsoever. He just... He's a protective, like... He's very protective. I love him. I still like him. It's just awkward. Like, when you're friends,
Starting point is 00:07:13 like if it goes, you know, like a big gap, like, of not talking to them, you just kind of don't know what to talk about anymore. So it's not like there's like, there's nothing wrong. It's just we don't really talk. Yeah. And in a way, It felt like for him, like they had a close friendship, but for him, he was like, so were you only friends with me because of her?
Starting point is 00:07:33 Like, that's how he kind of saw it. Oh, okay. And she doesn't see it that way anymore, but. And people think that you guys live on some sort of compound with your family. Yeah. Like, tell me about that. What's the belief online? It's not true.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And what's actually true? No, no, we live in our own house. We live together and it's just our daughter. And we have our own property. Okay. Um, but like when I started making videos, I lived in my parents' backyard. Okay. And, and I kind of lived with my sister.
Starting point is 00:08:01 There's, like, different apartments in my parents' backyard. So I lived in one. My sister lived in the one below me. My brother lives in the other one. Like, we kind of moved out of the house and just all moved to the backyard. That's a dream. I want to do that with our kids. No, it was fun.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Can't let him get too far. Yeah. No, my dad loves it. He did not want me to move out. Like, he was my realtor, and I swear he would, like, push it off. He was going to find me a house. Like, yeah. But no, like we live back there and people think I still live there because I'll go record my videos there.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Okay. But I'll just drive 10 minutes there and bring my steak and eat there. I don't know. I like how it looks. See back there. That's funny. Did you ever think that the steak videos were going to turn into what they turned into? No.
Starting point is 00:08:44 No. What's like the, tell me about how it started. Like, why did you even record yourself eating the steak? I, well, I was really embarrassed of starting a channel in the, the first place, even though I knew that was really what I wanted to do. But I started a TikTok channel and I didn't want anybody to know. So I blocked everybody that I knew. I put it under a fake name. And that's why sometimes people will still call me Stephanie because my name on TikTok was Stephanie. And I didn't change it until I hit like a million followers. And then I finally changed
Starting point is 00:09:13 it to my real name. Yeah, but I was going under Stephanie. It was really long time. And that name doesn't like, I mean, my aunt's name is Stephanie. But it was just a random name that I put on there. and then I just made videos every day like I saw something that was say if you make videos every day you'll never have to worry about money anymore I don't know it was just some random like inspirational video that I saw and I was like on it so I blocked him too I blocked him too I wasn't I didn't know what she was doing yeah and I told him I was like I'm gonna see every day she was secretive she's like I'm posting videos she's like I'm gonna say yeah and I know I told him I was like I'm gonna yeah what were you this? I was like, I'm posting videos to the internet, but you can't know anything about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I definitely would not. It's for money. I would not have guessed, you know, the steak. The secret steak videos. So we made a deal. We made a deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:10 The deal was I would unblock him if I hit 10,000 followers. Like I was like, if one day if I hit 10,000 followers, then I'll unblock you. Which I don't even know why. It's just something that I made up. But, and he was all for it. Like, he, I told him I had to post favorite videos every day.
Starting point is 00:10:27 He's like, yeah, go for it. It was the same week at least, so she hit 10,000. Yeah, and then a couple days later, I was like, I unblocked you. You can watch them. But it was, it didn't start with steak videos. It was just me, you think, just talking. Like, I was, I'd pull out my phone and talk randomly. Nice.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And then one of the times where I pulled out my phone and talked randomly, there was a steak in front of me because I was eating it. Okay. Like, it was an intention. Yeah. I was just here with my steak. Yeah. Like I just had something to stay and there was a steak in front of me. And then I saw that that worked, so I continued to do that every day. I don't do it every day anymore. What? When was this? This was like two years ago. October will be two years ago. Okay. Can we talk about your TikTok getting, okay, we're back.
Starting point is 00:11:12 You guys are freaking audio equipment to stop recording. So now we're back. But Katie just casually mentioned that her TikTok got hacked and we got to know what happened. We were out of town. We were in like Florida at the moment and I had gotten some random email that someone had logged in in like the middle of nowhere. I don't even remember. No, I don't think that's how it started. Like wasn't it you got an email about becoming verified? Yes. I really want to be verified on TikTok. Katie gets so excited. She's just always like, oh like, you know, reading comments and anything that she can like she wants to look at. Totally. It was blowing up pretty quickly around this point. like we, we just, you had just hit a million. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:55 So like, and we were doing like our first collabs ever, like meeting people. Yeah. And so I'm like laying there watching a movie and she's on her phone. And yeah. Yeah. Well, I was freaking out so excited because I got an email saying you're qualified to get verified on TikTok. Was that a scam?
Starting point is 00:12:12 Was that a scam? It was a scam. It was a scam. No. No. No. Have you seen it though? I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:12:19 We've, Abby's been scammed before. One time. If someone wants to scam me, I'm really good to target. She just, you know, as you know, Abby just launched her mascara company. But like five years ago, she thought she wanted to do a clothing boutique. And we were like filing all the necessarily business filings. Yeah. And she got scammed by giving like all of her personal information to some.
Starting point is 00:12:39 A Google Doc. She put it into a Google Doc. It was emailed over. It was a Google form. Yeah. Gosh, dang it. That was so stupid. Did you just put all your details into a Google form?
Starting point is 00:12:50 I actually think it was a Google. Google form. Cute. Like a questionnaire kind of thing. I'm like giving all my information. It was like asking for my TikTok username and password. And I don't know why that didn't like raise a red flag for me. I was like typing it all in.
Starting point is 00:13:06 So much for this opportunity. Yeah. I'm about to get verified. Did they change your password on you? No. No, they did it. She shows me. She's like, look, look what happened.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And I'm like, this isn't real. I'm like, did you fill this out? And she's like, yeah. I was like, what? So I go on her TikTok like right away and I change her password as fast as I can. I changed all the information on her TikTok and I was like, okay, you're good. I was like, don't fill out anything without showing me, please. Oh, you caught it in time.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Kind of. We retained the account a month later. She calls me bawling and I felt horrible because I felt like I had fixed the situation. I did change her passwords on everything, but I did not change the PayPal information. Connected to TikTok. It was like $12,000. No, they just took all that money out from the creator fund.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Yeah. Well, you get PayPaled every month, like on the creator fund. So it, like, when I checked the email, it was like some random email PayPal account. I was like, oh, that email just got all the money. You never saw that money ever. It is. No, and I tried filing claims.
Starting point is 00:14:19 there's nothing PayPal can do about that kind of situation. Like if money was sent, they can't just send you that money or take that money from somebody. Like, there was nothing. Now it's all okay. The important thing is we kept the account. Yeah. Like I was just so happy I still.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I think it was like Africa or something. Like it showed the location. Gosh. There's probably just a hacker, you know, just making a fake IP or whatever. But it was pretty, it was devastating. Well, that was like,
Starting point is 00:14:48 I had just. start to like any money was just insane to me like yeah I don't know I was serving tables trying to just save up to eventually you know like get a place of my own which I had an amazing situation but I don't know it was just I didn't realize you could make that much money well you're probably making like three dollars an hour right like when you're when you wait tables basically yeah I think some people don't know that though like about serving is that like your hourly is literally like for us it was like 325 yeah and then wait you guys served we yeah we still had a pizza restaurant together you did oh my god we we were dating when we worked at a restaurant together but we
Starting point is 00:15:27 we worked at a steak place together yeah we did a pizza place oh my god I was a bus boy I was the busser and Abby was the cocktail waitress and then our our lucky boss got thrown into he got thrown into yeah for um I think like stealing money from people and maybe like wait some wait back up yeah it was really bad It was a bad restaurant. So we, I'm glad, but that was after we got fired from the job because we had to go home for Christmas spring. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Like your tips? Yeah, you couldn't leave. We should have known this as a red flag. You couldn't leave with your tips. You couldn't leave with your tips. You had to turn it all in and then you'd come back and collect them later. Yeah. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I don't think that is a normal policy based off of what I've heard. Yeah, we got to leave same day with whatever we made. It is your money. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. No, it was a great restaurant. I had such a fun time working there.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I said the managers and the owners weren't even a part of it. Really? I feel like I managed more than the managers. Like, I was there six nights a week. Like, I don't know. I feel like the bartenders, usually in a restaurant, it's like a hierarchy. The bartenders are pretty high up there. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Do you guys still? No, he was higher than me. Are you guys still working at the restaurant or do you guys stop doing that? No, we stopped. I stopped when I found out I was. pregnant, like maybe a couple weeks after. But we were, you were already planning on quitting before we found out. Yeah, I was already planning on quitting because I just wanted to put my like full effort into,
Starting point is 00:16:59 I don't know. I felt like I was building something. I was so excited. Well, yeah, we need to talk about that. You finding out you're pregnant. Yeah. Because that was, that was a surprise for you guys, right? Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:20:39 Like her house is like half a mile from work. So I was like, okay. Yeah. Just come on over. And I was just having a normal day. I was just going to go over, have dinner and watch TV. And then. No, but he was so confused why I told him to come over.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Because, like, it was so late. I was like, you need to come over. He's like, what? Like I was like my feet do hurt And usually I'd be asleep by that time So I think he was just so confused Yeah she goes to bed really early compared to me Just like I can't go to bed before like 10
Starting point is 00:21:10 Like she's in bed by like 7.308 yeah You're out by 80? Wait wait this is something that we actually I need Matt to go to bed at the same time as me And I've found out that this is like a common thing in relationship You're fine going to sleep by yourself You don't care I'm there.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I mean, now I'm like, can we go to bed? Like, but you're there. I'll be in the bed. Oh, but you're just like. I'll just be like watching TV around my phone. Oh, okay. Like, I can't, like, I won't be like somewhere else. I'll be in bed because like if the baby's sleeping, like, I'm like, I hear it before she does, you know.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Um, our baby does sleep in our bed. But yeah, anyways, pregnancy wasn't even something. Sorry. Like, I just didn't think there was any way I could be pregnant. Like, I know how it works, but I just didn't think. Like, not that I thought I had problems or anything. Like, I just thought we had taken the precautions for that not to happen. And so I just really did not feel good that day at all.
Starting point is 00:22:09 And I just knew something was wrong. So I bought one, but it was kind of like, I didn't even think it was a possibility. I was just like, okay, I'll, like, make sure this isn't what I think it is. And so when I- No, but wait, you bought something else for me. Yeah, yeah. They were going back and forth whether or not they're going to show this. Are you okay sharing this?
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yeah, no, I'm okay hearing it. But, like, when I was walking around, like, we all know Spencer's, like, the fun store, there's, like, this wall of shirts. And then there's a certain shirt. I just bought it because I thought it was funny. But it's like a white, we have a picture. That's how we told his parents. That's how you pull his parents. That's how you do it.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah, we, like, laid the shirt down and put the pregnancy test on it. It wasn't just that. There was, like, the Sonogram. And the shirt. Oh, okay. But, like, the first thing they see is the shirt, because it's a shirt with a blue truck on it. I was so confused. She's like, I hate pulling out.
Starting point is 00:23:00 She was so confused. Yeah, this is just a shirt with the truck on it. This says I hate pulling out. But I had bought that before. Do you have that kind of humor with your parents? Because I feel like if I would have to show that. He does. I don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:10 If I were to show back to my parents, I really feel like they would freeze. Yeah. So open. Like they're super nice and like my sense of humor doesn't change when I'm around them. And it is a lot of times inappropriate. Like, yeah. It's just how, I just think it's funny. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah, there's a truck in a trailer. It says I hate pulling out. And a pregnancy test. But she bought it before the pregnancy test. Yeah, I bought that first and then I went on over to Target, bought the pregnancy test, went home. Did anyone know you were taking this test? No, no. Like, I lived in the apartment in my parents' backyard by myself.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Like, I lived alone in that apartment. So I wouldn't take it. You should tell, you, like, wouldn't think of telling, like, your mom or your sister. No. You're, like, not happening. I was, I was too scared. Like, I wasn't married. I'm not married, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I was too scared of, like, people's opinions. Yeah. But, yeah, no, I took it in not thinking anything. Like, I just took it casually and put it down. And then before I could even walk out the bathroom, it just says pregnant. Like, it's when, and oh, my gosh, just tears. It was just bawling. Was that just mainly because of your fear of what other people would think.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah. With you not being married. And I just didn't feel ready at that time. Like being a mom is something I've always dreamt of and wanted it. And I wanted to be a young mom too. Like I idolize them. I'm like, I idolize them.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I was just so like proud of moms and like what they could do that. I wanted to be like a part of that. But I just always thought I'd be married in a house like in a situation where we would have a child. But I also didn't want the child to be like, okay, the child to be the reason we get married. Yeah. I didn't want to be like, okay, we have to get married now that I'm pregnant. Obviously, I wanted to marry him. I was so in love with him.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I am so in love with him. But like, I just didn't want to rush it, you know. But yeah, anyway, sorry, I keep like falling away from the story. That's probably all the thoughts that are going to do your head at that moment. And so, yeah, and so I call one of my best friends Isabella and I told her she's like 40 minutes away but drives over immediately. And I just bawled her for like literally hours. and she's just sitting there listening. Like she's just this little angel.
Starting point is 00:25:26 But yeah, so she was a very first person I told. And she's like the most open, sweetest person, just like listening to me. And then I text him saying like, you need to come over after work, even though I knew it would be late and I knew he'd be tired. But if you came over. Did you ever think like that's why she wanted you to come over? No. No.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Not until she started crying. But like the second I walked in. Yeah. Like she said she's something I have to tell you And then she couldn't finish her next sentence And then she started bawling And at first I'm like I was like freaking out
Starting point is 00:26:00 I was like what's wrong? Like you know like trying to like guess Yeah And then that was like the first thing that came to mine And I guess And then she was like yeah And then I was like trying I was like excited like I was trying to be excited
Starting point is 00:26:12 You know Because I always told myself Like I would have a good reaction I wanted to be excited So like that's what I was doing And it was a little hard Because she was like still crying But no
Starting point is 00:26:28 It it got better And then I mean we talked and Then I gave him the present I was like my original plan was to give you this present After like 30 minutes of like holding her and crying Yeah Then she gave it to me I loved the shirt
Starting point is 00:26:43 And then Yeah we kind of just Talked and laid there until almost the morning and then yeah yeah then we just started
Starting point is 00:26:55 trying to look for a house I was like that was like our first goal was like to move in together and like get ready yeah like that that night
Starting point is 00:27:06 did you like make plans of like okay what are we gonna do now or was it just kind of like let's just soak this in for a minute fun like we just like she loved it I swear but like she's always
Starting point is 00:27:16 she just wanted to go look at every house on Zillow Like she just wanted to go look at houses. So we were just looking at houses. We were gonna rush it like obviously we wanted to get a house before, but we're not just gonna buy something because we were trying not to rush that process. How old were you when all of this happened? 20?
Starting point is 00:27:35 20. March? Yeah, she turned 20 in January. Yeah. Oh wow. So like. Yeah. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Yeah, that's a quick. Wasn't that when you? Were you 21? I think it was between two when we got pregnant with Griffin. And I, right after that turn 23. Yeah. That's a big moment.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Yeah. And so then you're automatically like, okay, now I got to find a doctor, which apparently we have the same OB. Yeah. You, she apparently saw me at the OB and didn't say anything. That's hilarious. Well, like, I don't know. I was kind of just admiring.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Was I there too? I was one of the persons like looking you up. I'm like, Tyson, her name is Abby. I'm like, she makes, you guys are both there? Like, yeah. Well, it was like our first appointment. After we had had her. It was like the six week.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Tiny. And this is probably six months ago and you came in. I'm just like in Lala Land. I'm just looking at our baby, you know. And then Katie's freaking out. And like you were at the counter. This show is literally how unobservant I am. That's scary.
Starting point is 00:28:37 That's true. It wasn't confirmed until they called your name. Yeah. And I was like, oh, it's Abby. That's funny. That's so funny. No, I wanted to say hi, but I didn't like, you hadn't announced your pregnancy.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I was like, I was like, this doesn't, I feel like you should not say hi to someone out of a doctor's office. Like, it doesn't seem like the right situation. That was like three or four months before we announced. It was a little bit. Yeah, she came out to me. She said, I told you. Yeah. Because like I had heard like Abby for like blood work or something.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I was like, I knew it. I was just so excited for you. That might have been the confirmation. No, that wouldn't have been the confirmation appointment though because I was there at that once. Then that might have been like another one that I just couldn't make it to. I don't know. All those early appointments, really, I blacked out. So I don't, I do not know. Goodness. But you looked so cute there. You did. By the time they are watching this, I probably won't be pregnant anymore when you really...
Starting point is 00:29:30 That's crazy. Yeah, if you guys are watching this, Abby probably has already had our child. So... Crazy. A little glimpse in the future. Yeah. But how was your pregnancy? Oh, I mean, the first part was just hard because I just wasn't expecting it. I was so grateful to be pregnant. it. I'd say she didn't
Starting point is 00:29:50 surprise. She didn't start like enjoying it. I didn't start embracing it until a couple months in which like sounds so weird. Sorry, I keep mumbling so much. I would say like once she like felt movement and like kicking, it just made her so happy. So like I feel like around 18 weeks she like got really happy like 18 to 30 weeks. I think like the first part was like emotional and stressful. because we were trying to figure everything out.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah. And then the last part, she was just so uncomfortable. But I feel like the middle part, she seemed to love. Okay. Yeah, I was just more scared to, like, tell people that I was pregnant. Yeah, how did the family take it?
Starting point is 00:30:34 Okay, wait. So you got to say this. She was not feeling good. Like, I don't know, the first couple weeks, you're, like, a little bit sick or whatever. Yeah. And her grandma lives with her. the nicest, sweetest, funniest person.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Your grandma lives over there too? Yeah. It just keeps me better. Yeah. And you're driving wherever. And like, what'd she say? Well, my parents were out of town at the moment. It was just my grandma at home and I was so sick and I was throwing up and my grandma
Starting point is 00:31:05 knew that I had just thrown up. So she was like, are you pregnant? And I was just laughing at her. I was like, no. Making her like seem like, you're out of it. Like, no. Yeah. But in a good way.
Starting point is 00:31:18 fun way she likes it um and so she was told me she was because i was already looking at houses my dream was to buy a house and she was like i found this house over here you need to come see it so i was like okay and so she's like get in the car and i go in the car with my grandma literally pulls into walmart and i'm like what are you doing she's like i'm going to buy you a pregnancy test i was like what i was like no she's like i think you're pregnant and i was like grandma i'm not and she's like well then tell me whether you are or like I'm going in to buy one. And I was like, okay, I am. And like, I hadn't even told my mom at that point.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Like grandma, no. So she kind of like blackmailed it out of me. Like she was like, I was like, pee on this stick right now. Literally. She's like, well, we're going inside to buy a test or you can tell me that you're pregnant. Like, was she the second like person or she was,
Starting point is 00:32:05 was she the first person in your family? Oh, yes. First in the family. Yes. And she is the biggest big mouth. My grandma loves drama. It's so bad. I love her to death.
Starting point is 00:32:15 She's funny. She loves drama. Did she tell everybody? Yes. Who did she tell first? I told my grandma, I said, you can't tell anyone. It will break my mom's heart if I don't tell her.
Starting point is 00:32:25 If she hears it from you and not from me, like it'll break her heart. My mom loves to do hair. So I go over in the morning, my mom's doing my hair. She loves to do my hair. And she's doing my hair and my grandma in the background. You have amazing hair, by the way.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Oh, thank you. So thick. Oh, this is no product. Oh, my gosh. That's just natural. Hairspray. Oh my gosh. Just hairspray.
Starting point is 00:32:49 You're blessed. Okay, so your mom's doing your hair. Yeah. And my grandma in the background goes, Katie, have you bought your prenatals yet? And my mom's, I could just tell her face just change, like, because we do my hair in front of the mirror. And she just, like, she could,
Starting point is 00:33:04 she just knew at that moment that I was pregnant. But she didn't say anything. But she didn't say anything. And then maybe like three weeks later, I like finally build up the courage to tell her. And she was like, well, I already knew. You told your grandma before me, you know. She's not much of reaction because she really knew.
Starting point is 00:33:22 But she was just happy. My mom loves baby so much. Like, she was so excited. Was it the first grandchild in the family? No, third. Okay. It's a third. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I have a niece and nephew that I love so much to also live there. Okay. You're like, it's not a family compound. Yeah. But it kind of is. Well, yeah, how is it not a family compound then if everyone lives around each other? But, like, it's just one property. It's not a compound.
Starting point is 00:33:46 It just, like, has different. You know how, like, people have guest houses? Yeah. It's kind of like it. Just a huge guest house. You'll have to come over. I'll have to give you a tour. I can't picture this. Yeah, I want to see it.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Yeah. But, yeah. Like, we all just live in different ones. Yeah, we need to make a steak video. Please. I would love that. Okay. I'm there.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I mean, clearly, I'm eating good. Yeah. That is so funny. We're close. We're close. Yeah. So you have, this will be the third grandchild. So did you have to then tell your dad or were you like, mom, just tell dad?
Starting point is 00:34:17 Oh, we told my dad on Mother's Day. We like put it in a present. Like everyone, my mom and my grandma had already knew, but we had yet to tell my dad. So we like made him a present. So she kept it a secret from your dad? Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:30 For weeks. I couldn't trust that. Yeah. Yeah. I would not say a secret in our face. Did you show your dad the shirt? No. He doesn't know about that.
Starting point is 00:34:41 He doesn't know about that. He doesn't know about that. No. How did your dad react? He's the best dad ever. He was just like, no way. Like, he just didn't believe it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:52 But nothing but good reactions, like from my whole family. I mean, my grandma, she was calling the baby a b***. She like, but that's how she is. She says whatever comes to mind. Like, she loves drama. She's like doing the dishes. She's like, well, kiddies like, what? Is the baby going to be a bastard?
Starting point is 00:35:12 Yeah. Oh, I can honestly. That makes me think of Game of Thrones. That makes me think of the recent Minions movie. Oh my gosh. They say that. They said that word in the minions movie. I'm sitting there in the front row with my two-year-old and our four-year-old.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Did they just say that? Yeah. Yeah. Is that technically the dictionary definition of Bastard? Yeah. Having a baby out of wedlock, I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Yeah. Really? I thought it was like if you're already married and you have another kid out of the marriage. I think that might be right. Okay. You need to tell your grandma all that. Right? She doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:35:54 She doesn't care. What did you say to that? I just start crying. I'm just so emotional, you know, at the time. Was she asking you guys were going to get married? Is that what she was trying to ask? Well, my whole family was. Like, they were just like, so we're going to Vegas this weekend.
Starting point is 00:36:08 You want to come? Like get married? I'm like, no. Oh, okay. I'm like, not yet, you know. I just, I don't know, I never envisioned myself getting married while, like, pregnant. I wanted to wait. Well, you got, okay, you got engaged right before she was born, right?
Starting point is 00:36:24 No. I think like a month after we found out I was pregnant. We got engaged. Okay, so you're like two months pregnant when you got engaged. Yeah. How soon after you got engaged did you lose your wedding ring or lose the engagement rate? Oh my gosh, you saw that? She had it for like three or four months, right?
Starting point is 00:36:43 Yeah. It was just in my jewelry box a whole time. Are you kidding me? No, it was so weird. I literally had a dream that she found it in her jewelry box, which is like, she only wears gold jewelry. So the jewelry box is like filled with so much stuff. And she came to me and like showed me that she found it.
Starting point is 00:37:01 So I woke up and I like went and looked in there and it was there. It was just so weird. So you didn't actually lose it. No. but it was gone for like four months. Four months. And like her mom looked in the jewelry box. She looked in the jewelry box.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I looked in the jewelry box. Have you checked with grandma? I pulled apart like all our piping and our sinks, you know? Like I was looking everywhere. I was like where could this have gone? Because in one of her videos is a Valentine's Day video. She's making an envelope. You see it in the end of the video.
Starting point is 00:37:33 She finishes it at like 8 o'clock and I get home from work at like 9.30 and it was gone. So in that short. window. So I knew it's at our house. Like I wasn't left. That's a good thing about making videos. I'm like, when did I last have it on? Oh, that's funny. I lost mine and I actually lost it.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Lost it? Like for good, when? For good. On the honeymoon. On the honeymoon. We realized it on the way. Yeah, on the way on the cruise. On the plane ride too.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I think we were like getting on the cruise ship and then you realized that you didn't have it. No, because I remember I was crying next to a random stranger on the plane. And I had like my just married shirt on. She's going through it. So you lost it like in the airport? Yes. You lost it in the airport and yeah, we were like getting on the on the cruise. What's weird is that the wedding band was on my finger and the wedding ring was not.
Starting point is 00:38:21 I was crying on the plane and I had like my little sun hat because it didn't fit in my bag. And then my shirt was like just married. And I was like, and that guy probably like this marriage is doomed. Yeah. How's planning the wedding going? Are you guys pretty excited? Is this going to be? It's planned.
Starting point is 00:38:38 It's planned. Yeah. Oh, it's fully planned. Yeah. What are you guys doing for the wedding? We're just a loping. Oh, you're just a loping. But it's like, I feel like it's a little more than just a loping, but yeah, we are.
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Starting point is 00:42:33 Just her parents. Just his parents and my parents. We didn't want to ask like I have so many siblings. She has a lot of siblings like yeah It's kind of rude to ask people to go to Hawaii Yeah, it's expensive but like it's where we want you know it's just like It just seems so cool neither of us have ever been Just what we wanted to do like we didn't I don't know we just feel bad making a bunch of people fly across the country like yeah and her parents offer to do it in their backyard
Starting point is 00:42:58 It's just I don't know I've seen so many weddings go down in that backyard though like a lot of fives like all their friends have like gotten married in my parents backyard i was like i don't want this your parents has things like a magical place but yeah i mean october 5th is the day that's so exciting yeah no we're so excited we got like a person booked photographer and all the other stuff for her and yeah did you both want to elope and have a small wedding or was it like you're you had to arrive at this decision like compromise i didn't want like i think weddings are so beautiful i just didn't want like a like a big party I don't know I think when I like I threw like a big baby shower
Starting point is 00:43:42 and it kind of just seemed like the whole time I was worried about all the other people yeah like instead of just trying to have like a good time so I didn't want my wedding to be like that too which is definitely just a me problem but like I didn't want to be worried about all the guests like oh do they have all the food are they having a good time like I just wanted to have a good time and like make it a memorable day that's smart yeah that'll be really sweet do you have your dress Oh, I don't. I don't. We said everything's planned.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I know. She's got like the date, the appointment that I need to go to. Do it. Soon, but. That's the best, that's, I think that's the best part of wedding planning. Really? Wedding dress shopping? Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Do you still have yours? I know a lot of people keep theirs or no? I think, I think it's in my grandma's basement. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See, that's the problem with us. We're not overly sentimental about things.
Starting point is 00:44:32 No, but that's not a problem. But I'm like, I would like that to be. Like, I really appreciated getting to try on my mom's wedding dress. Yeah. When you were, like, talking about, but I'm like, I gotta get my stuff together just a little bit. I think it's at my grandma's house. Does it feel silly getting married after already having a house together and having a kid together? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:50 We were just talking about that yesterday. Because it feels like we're already married. You are married, you know? Yeah, I don't think you're going to notice any change. It's just like, it's really just like a contract, like a piece of paper. No, that's what I said. Like, it sounds wrong. But I was like, it just sounds like we're getting.
Starting point is 00:45:06 the government involved. Yeah. But I know it's such a beautiful thing. Like, it's more than that. I'm excited. I'm excited. It's more of like a honeymoon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Yeah. And like they're like connected. Like that's what we wanted. Like we would rather spend the money on like a memorable vacation and go have fun for like two weeks than, you know, spend that on a venue here. Totally. And we've already been living together for, you know, over a year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:34 No, but I'm excited to call my husband. I feel like that's something that will change. Like, I can't really call them up. You don't call him your husband now. You just call him Tyson. I just call him Tyson. Tyson. So my own Tyson, you know.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Wait, when you had Maple, was that like, I guess, does she technically have your last name then? She does. Okay. They did call her baby church because she was in the NICU. And so it didn't say Goodman. It said baby church, which is my last name. to one of my friends. She never legally, she got married, but she just never legally changed her last name.
Starting point is 00:46:10 But she went by her married name. Yeah. And so then all of her babies at the hospital had her maiden name. And they've been married for a long time. And he was like- Have that maiden name? No. She had to go in and change that.
Starting point is 00:46:22 But I don't know why the records in the hospital had that. I'm super curious. You said when you found it you're pregnant, you had all this fear that people would judge you for not being married. But then it sounded like everybody was very supportive. So was anybody ever like not kind to you or was anybody like ever, did anyone ever make you feel bad for having a baby before you got married? In my life, no online. Yes. I think they were all surprised. Like everyone kind of just thought I was 12. They were like, what? You're pregnant? Like, oh no. I thought I was doomed. Oh, really? I was doomed. Yeah. But this was all people online. Yeah. People that had to be. People that had. just watch your videos of you eating steak. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Was that hard to see at the time, or were you kind of just like... There was so much support. I think all the love spoke so much louder than the hate that, like, my attention didn't even go there. Yeah. But I think that was really the only hate I got. Everyone was so positive. It was all just in my head, you know, like, you get so worked up about what people
Starting point is 00:47:25 will think, and then I just thought too hard on it, and none of it was reality. It was also kind of funny, though, like, the hate comments were, like, they weren't, like, They're just saying like, they're like another baby having a baby. Like, yeah, that was my top comment for months. Like, just click on one of my video,
Starting point is 00:47:42 the top comment, another, a baby having a baby. Um, that's like funny is, yeah, I mean, like they're trying to be mean,
Starting point is 00:47:49 but it's kind of just funny. Yeah. And at that point, like the hate that I did receive, I was like, what do you guys want me to do? Like, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:56 I'm like, I'm already pregnant. Like, with this, here we are. You know, like, what was it like finding out that you were having a girl?
Starting point is 00:48:04 Oh, like my dreams came true. I have a little. So I really did want a boy in the beginning. The last 11 p kids on my dad's side are all boys. Like there hasn't been a girl in forever. Very sexist of you to say that out loud. Right. So I wanted a boy and we had 11 more boys.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Yeah, like uncles, cousins, dad, like all boys. So I like thought it would be a boy, you know. But we had a cake. get made. So we were going to do like a cake reveal. And when we opened the cake in her kitchen, it was a tomahawk steak, like, and we're getting cut into it to see what color was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:45 A steak cake? Yeah. I as a joke, like, looked, I was like, peaked on the side, you know, like, because it looked like sealed, like it was fondant. And so I, like, looked on the side and I saw pink. And so I knew before we cut into it. And I was just trying to help. But you didn't say anything?
Starting point is 00:49:03 No, I was just. trying to have a good reaction for the video. Oh, that's funny. But at the time, it seemed like it mattered. Like, I wanted a boy, but now that I've met her and she's here, like, I can't imagine her being a boy. How was the whole, like, pregnancy, postpartum, all that goodness? How was your experience?
Starting point is 00:49:24 You had a kind of crazy experience right after birth too. Yeah. And your birth was kind of crazy too. Yeah. Just fast. It was kind of just like after she came out that was so fast. Like after I had had her, wait, were you induced? No. She was
Starting point is 00:49:40 like my water broke. I sneezed and my water broke and then we went to the hospital. How far long were you? I was 39 weeks in like a couple days. Yeah. I had, I was like almost to my due date. My due date was the 15th and she was born on the 11th. But yeah, like that, I sneezed and the water broke all over the bed and I was like my water just broke and he didn't believe me he's like you definitely just paid like no my water broke it was so crazy like i had um watched videos that people saying it's like a rubber band and it like it like is like just out of nowhere so like we go to the hospital were you like having contractions at that point no no but i didn't know what to do so i just went to the hospital like help me she just kept gushing everywhere
Starting point is 00:50:29 oh yeah i just start recording it's like my water broke i was like go My water just broke. Like, I was literally doing a get dressed with me to go to the hospital. I was so excited. Oh, you were excited. Yeah, no, I was so excited. I was ready for her to come out. I was just sick that whole day.
Starting point is 00:50:45 And I was excited to meet her. But I had a positive, like, birth experience, like the birth. Did you go medicated? Yes. Yes. They gave me potosin because a lot, nothing was happening after my water broke. So they gave. me that and it was like an hour later I was like please I can't do this um it was hurting so bad
Starting point is 00:51:10 but yeah like I got the epidural and like I had her but it was just after where things turned like an hour later after I had her they like took her to like check things you know how they like go and check everything and so I was like go with her you know and he went with her and then like another hour had passed I was like where is she like she didn't come back um and like like like, I don't know, a doctor just came in to check me postpartum, didn't say anything and left. And I was like, where is she? Like, it's like two hours now. I was like, she's not back. And so, like, he calls me and saying that she was like on the way to the NICU. And I was like, what, what's going on? And they just had to give her glucose because her blood sugar was
Starting point is 00:51:51 well. I was like, yeah, because you're not letting me feed her. Like she's. Yeah. And like, it was such a big goal of mine to breastfeed. And like, they didn't really give me that opportunity at all. Um, they kind of just took her, gave her glucose. And then by the time they even allowed me to see her, which was a couple hours later, because they weren't letting me walk because I had the epidural. Like she's like in this like NICU room. And like there's like a tube of formula like going in like through her nose.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Like what are those called? It was in her mouth. In her mouth. It was in her mouth for the first day. And then they moved it to the nose. Yeah. It started in the mouth. Which seeing that like obviously I know they were taking care of her.
Starting point is 00:52:31 It was just heartbreaking for me because that was just such a big. goal of mine. Yeah. And like I wasn't asked anything. Like I didn't know what was going on. Yeah, that doesn't feel right. Yeah. Honestly.
Starting point is 00:52:40 No. But yeah, I like went over there and all I could do was just like sit there in that NICU arm just like looking at her. Um, and I wasn't allowed to like hold her that first day. Um, because she was sorry. She would, got sent to the NICU because she was breathing too fast. Apparently she swallowed liquid like coming out, um, which like impacted her lungs. but so she was in there to like remove all like the liquid from her lungs um it was just crazy like
Starting point is 00:53:10 have all the pictures of her like set up with all these different chords and when i got the chance to hold her it was so scary to hold her because i was in a trip over a cord like there's just so many chords connected but sorry you can say i know like you were he was there the whole time so he probably had a different side it was really not fun um like she was recovering and they came into like do physical on her where they had moved this from the first room and took her into this room. It was like a big glass wall.
Starting point is 00:53:43 And I couldn't even tell what they were doing to her at first, you know? Like they were just like kind of looking at her and like doing all this stuff. They like pricked her heel, like drawn blood and stuff. And then they said that she was like aspirating or whatever. So she's breathing too fast.
Starting point is 00:53:58 And so they did an x-ray. Oh, and they like were monitoring. her oxygen levels the whole time, which like I have asthma and so does she. So like I know what bad oxygen levels are. Like I've been in the hospital myself and I could just see it was in the low 90s, almost in the 80s, you know, which is way too low. Like you're supposed to be over 95 like all the time. You want to be like 98, 99. But yeah, they were working on her for like an hour. They were flipping her over on her belly and she's like a few hours old. So she's just like face down. They're trying to get her to like cough it out or whatever was in there.
Starting point is 00:54:37 The worst part for me was like there started to be like a crowd building up outside of the glass wall because Katie's in her room. Yeah. I have a huge family. Her mom's there. My mom's there. They're watching and I'm just trying to like, I'm listening to the doctors and they can't hear anything and they're all just like looking at the baby like happy, you know?
Starting point is 00:54:55 Yeah. And I'm just like starting to feel like worse and worse and worse about it because of what they're saying. and then yeah and then they finally like tell me that they have to move it to the NICU and like at that point I swear I blacked out
Starting point is 00:55:13 like I thought I was going to pass out like it was not like my legs like were giving out from under me it was all the nurses were like first timers like it's just scary you're wrong with your baby no it was not cool and like sure like in that moment all they did
Starting point is 00:55:30 pick her up and put her in the box and they're just wheeling her over there so like that moment the only hard part was them saying it yeah but then once i got there there's three doctors working on her at once and like watching that was definitely not fun i mean she's screaming and the doctors are amazing like i don't even you know you look at a newborn and baby like i wouldn't know where to put an iv in like they look so small they do it in their hand um was she tiny or she was eight pounds She was a big girl. She was the biggest girl in there, which we were, like, I don't know, it was a hard experience, but we made it as good as we could.
Starting point is 00:56:11 We spent his birthday in the NICU, too. His birthday is like two days after hers. Yeah, my birthday is the 13th. But I don't know, just every time we thought, like, she's getting better. Like, we can take her home. They're like, once you're admitted to the NICU, like, they won't let you leave until you pass so many different goals. Yeah, they say.
Starting point is 00:56:29 said she had to reach back to her birth weight because you know how they'll lose weight the first like couple of days and they said she couldn't leave until she reached back her birth weight which most but babies take over i know and so like which they were just feeding her like so much through her tube and so much trying to get like and was that just devastating for you with like wanting to breastfeed i know that like yeah that is like a really intense feeling as a mom especially like freshly postpartum like the thought of like formula like going your baby and we're like okay yeah how you have Hello. Yeah. And they'll use like the cheapest things there too. Like they got a whole setup and you like they got the cheapest formula and the cheapest bottles which I'm not saying there's anything wrong with. If you have goals for your baby, that should be like your decision to make. Yeah. No, I was not asked like anything.
Starting point is 00:57:15 They don't, which I'm sure you sign the papers that like just let them do what they need to do and they did what they needed to do. And she she's such a healthy baby and that's all I could ask for. But so then were you able to have a breastfeeding journey or? kind of it was awful but like the hard part was like I would say the tube and obviously I'm a guy I have no idea but I say the tube she was like basically asleep the whole time it's going straight into her stomach so I don't think that wouldn't really affect the breastfeeding but then when they took the tube out they're like I don't know it was day two or three or something and they're like okay you can either only breastfeed and she has to drink a certain amount of I don't know milliliters or whatever or whatever or or you can do this and you get to go home earlier. Like basically you have to meet this milestone so you can stay here for a couple weeks and take the slow route or go right into this route and it'll be quicker. Yeah. But they also like we're not allowed to sleep there.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Like we, like we couldn't stay. Like we would be there all day but like they wouldn't let us sleep there. We'd be in our room like our postpartum room, which is the far. this away from the NICU. So I just had a baby and I'm like, I had to go back and forth every two hours because every two hours they had to check on me for my checkup. And every two hours was her feeding. So like I was just back and forth for like a couple days while she was in there. But you had to leave her at night. When it would close. Yeah. That's so hard. Yeah. But there's, there was so many other babies in there that I was, it was like crazy to see everyone else's
Starting point is 00:58:54 journey like right in front of my eyes too. Like there was some really tiny. babies there that like all we could do was like all we could do was you know just like keep them in mind and and see all the other parents in there not a fun place but I do think like those doctors or nurses or whatever they were amazing they're like the best in the building like I don't know we were just so excited when they finally told it's like they have a room so you're like in these curtain rooms it's not really a room you know it's just curtains and when they finally told us that we could get a whole home the next day. They kind of monitor you, like take her off of everything and then just kind of
Starting point is 00:59:35 put you in like a different room and it's an actual room with a bathroom. And they just like let you, you can sleep in that one. So like once you go to that room, you can sleep, stay the night there. So it's just like a practice room, you know, to make sure nothing goes wrong. And then we could go home in the morning. So when we found that out, like they told us, I don't know, I, I went home. I got our toothbrush and some pillows and came right back. Then yeah, we just slept the night and left in the morning. It had to be the best feeling. Oh, yeah, leaving there.
Starting point is 01:00:08 So much fun. It's also kind of scary though because like. Right. Yeah, what do we do? Like, we know what to do. We had help for the first few days and then we get home. I don't know. It was so funny.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Like we were, we put her down and like we were trying to be so quiet. And then in reality, like two weeks later, like the TV's blasting and she's just passed out. Like, babies can actually sleep through all the noise, you know? Yeah, I feel like that's the experience that only your first child will ever have. Yeah. Like, I see all these videos. It's like us taking our third baby home and they're realizing that they're not the only one. And it's just like lightsaber's involved and screaming.
Starting point is 01:00:49 But that first one, oh, with Griffin, we were silent. Yeah. We were quiet. You guys seem like super parents, too, with all the different. and things that you built her, saw the little car that you spray painted for her. Yeah, strawberry car. That was so much. I mean, most of that, not most of it. It was honestly for me, too. Like, I had a fun time doing that. Like, yes, I would made it for her. But, like, being postpartum too, like, I didn't know where to put a lot of my energy. Like, obviously it all went towards her.
Starting point is 01:01:19 But I was like, man, like, I need to have some hobbies. That's where I kind of just pick those things up and just started making things for her. What's taking you the most time of all like your crafts? What's what's been the biggest time commitment? It was definitely the I made a robot. I made it. You made a robot. It took me a week. The robot from my Carly.
Starting point is 01:01:38 You think or? I feel like that took us the longest. The dollhouse took a one. Oh, I renovated like an old doll house. That probably took a week too. And Tyson are you are you like doing behind the scenes like assisting with all these projects? So it's kind of a team effort. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Yeah. I do like the hard labor. And she just says like you see her painting it in the video and like you're like breaking your back lifting up a 100 pound tire. If we have to do something like 300 times like 300 times. Like if we're like putting like confetti all over a pinata like you know we don't record the entire process. Yeah. So she'll start it and then I'll help while she's like taking care of the baby or vice versa. If she's recording, I'm taking care of the baby.
Starting point is 01:02:28 So we basically just flip-flop. I'm not always on camera because I'm not as good. But I also am. Oh, you are. I am on camera, but like not as much. Like, I'll go out there and I'll record. I don't, I try to talk to the camera. It's just so weird for me.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Is it weird? I'm not used to it. You're literally talking to just the phone and there's nobody else there. Oh, and they're like, our neighbors know what we do. So, like, I'll be. outside and like I don't know you have to like give energy you know and so like you'll be saying something and then like the neighbors walk in like taking the trash out and I'm like oh my god but yeah yeah I just help her as much as I can like I quit my job you know to to to help with the videos and
Starting point is 01:03:15 yeah mainly the baby like it's just like she doesn't necessarily need me for the video but she can't make no I do no she does but like there's videos where she doesn't but she can't even start. Well, I don't need him for a get dress with me. Like, I don't need him to help me do my makeup, you know? Or like a cooking video, but like she can't do it if she's taking care of the baby. So like, yeah, I just, whatever she, whatever she tells me to do, honestly. Whatever she tells me to do.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Which project was the most expensive that you guys did for a video? Was it the robot? I feel like it was the robot. No? We had to think about it for a second. The robot was like, five. 600. It's a lot of money to make for a, like that's a lot of money to spend just for one video. We do not profit on a lot of the video. Oh really? Not no. But that's because they're fun, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:08 like, yeah, like that's, I don't know, that's what we invest in, honestly. Was it the, I don't know, it's, it's hard to think. I was thinking if it's the robot. People were talking about like their investments when you're with their group of guys. Yeah, I invested in this like robot and a Strawberry card. See, when I think about doing DIY projects, you should. There's so much fun. No, I know my limits and I know our marriage's limits.
Starting point is 01:04:38 This would not be our, this would not be good for us. We do TikTok dances instead. I feel like if we were to do a DIY project together, that would, that would be unpleasant. Can we talk about Brent Rivera for a second? Oh, please. My brother. Your brother. My brother.
Starting point is 01:04:55 How did that clap come to be? He DMed me. And I was like, yes, please. Let's go. But that was like a long time coming. Like a lot of people just say I looked just like him. So I'm like, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:08 And he was just getting constantly tagged in your comments section. Yes. And I was getting tagged in his comment section a lot. Like, I think that's how he even heard of me. That's funny. A lot of people were tagging me in his videos like Katie Church, your sister, you know? Yeah. So yeah, like he DMed to me and I was like, yes.
Starting point is 01:05:25 and, you know, we drove over there and made some videos with him. He's a nicest person. He's a lot of fun to film with. That's so funny. Yeah. And I feel like we do look like, you know? Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 01:05:37 I was like, I can see it, but then when you did that video where you were like looking in the mirror and it swapped. Yeah. I was like, wow, that really. With the ropes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Yeah. Yeah. And he'll get so into videos too. He'll put on his robes, his dresses. He's fun. That's funny. It was weird seeing them to like next to each other, you know? He's like, I'm in love with her.
Starting point is 01:05:59 And then here's this dude. It looks just like her. Dude version of your wife. Yeah. Yeah, that make you kind of uncomfy. They're like, I don't know if I'm supposed to be attracted to you right now. My job. He's like, not bad.
Starting point is 01:06:12 He's like, no, no. It was cool, though, like watching them film together. That's cool. It was fun. Yeah. It's always so much fun to meet people. Like, who are interested in the same thing. I get so excited to meet other people who make videos.
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Starting point is 01:08:16 Visit www.sleep.m.me.com slash unplanned and never. wake up hot and tired again. Changing the subject here. Yes. We wanted to ask your audience what questions they had for you guys. Oh my gosh. So a couple fun ones here, if that's okay. Please.
Starting point is 01:08:35 The first audience question is why did you decide to eat steak online? I know we kind of talked about that a bit, but maybe just, you know, quick. Well, I had a fun story that I wanted to tell my like 10 followers at the time. I was so excited to tell them. There was a girl that I worked with and she was preface. And she got offered like the rest of someone else's steak and she said no and she was like no I'm not allowed to have steak because I'm pregnant And I was like what I didn't say anything I wasn't even a part of this conversation that happened at work But I told my phone like the next day because I was excited to just rant I was like someone said you can't have steak when you're pregnant
Starting point is 01:09:11 Why not or something like that? And I just felt like I had to tell them like yeah or she was like if someone tells me oh I was like I'm gonna sorry I was like I'm gonna eat steak while I'm pregnant or something like that. I just had to tell them and there was a steak in front of me. I feel like I told that story so bad. No. Did you have steak when you were pregnant? Not really. I did.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I did. I wasn't very fond of it when I was pregnant. It did sound gross. And like, well, it was like the cooking part, like the raw meat, raw bacon, raw chicken. Can you cook meat right now? Yeah. Right now I can. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:46 But early on, no. Is there a silly question people ask you a lot because of you being known as the steak, Girl. Because like I'm looking at the questions right now and like half of these are about steak. Yeah. I want to know what cut of steak. Because we're just getting. Actually, it's my New Year's resolution to learn how to make a good steak at home.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Yeah. And I make him grill them. But I'm like still kind of confused on what cut is like the best. Yeah. I like a New York strip. That's a weekend. I love a New York trip. I love the fat.
Starting point is 01:10:11 It depends on where you get it. Because like. You're from Costco. Yeah. Yeah. They're like no. We do not like fries. For whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:22 reason. Well, let's just bash fries. I'm just getting on token. Where do you get your steak from then? I like sprouts. I like, I've gotten some at Costco. I like sprouts and whole foods. I feel like they always have really good steaks.
Starting point is 01:10:34 You want it to be farm. Like, I feel like when you're cooking it. Yeah. If it's like mushy, it doesn't, I don't know. Do you do it on a cast iron? Yeah. I love the, like, I don't know, New York's have like a perfect fat to meat ratio, you know, like the marbling.
Starting point is 01:10:52 and I just love the fat on the outside. Oh, I can talk about steak all day long. But I love a ribeye and I love New York. I'm not the biggest fan of like filet mignon's or sirloins. But then here's the next question. It says, how much do you spend on groceries eating carnivore? I know you're not actually like full on carnivore anymore. But your bill must be super high because one time we like we bought things.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Hey, if you're at Whole Foods and we know it is. We went to Whole Foods for steaks. We spent like 120 bucks. No, it was like 150 bucks just for steaks for Abby and I and my parents. For our whole family. Okay. We got six steaks, but still it was like 25 a steak. Yeah, it's not that cheap.
Starting point is 01:11:26 I usually there's a sprouts like down the street. I usually get one for like 20 bucks a steak, which I know is like 20 bucks a meal. It's a lot of money. Yeah. Sometimes more, but. Yeah. Like a nice one's like 50, like from the butcher shop. Wow.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Yeah, I usually just stick to sprouts. I love him. And it's a blessing. Like when I started the steak videos, I was getting sent some, which I thought was so cool. So people were sending me steaks. Yeah. No way. From like different farms that are really sweet and sent me some.
Starting point is 01:11:55 So our freezer is currently stocked. So because of that reason, the grocery bill isn't that high because I got a lot of them for free. Which is- Wait, that's cool. So you have just a freezer full of steak right now at your house. Pretty much. I'm sure being the steak girl, everybody wants to send you steak. Yeah, all the different farms, like they'll reach out.
Starting point is 01:12:12 How often? Yeah, no, it is so sweet. Do you get sent a steak like every day? No, not every day, but when it comes, it's like a huge package. of just meat and it's like a dream like I'm so grateful for it it's more than steak it's like hot dogs hamburgers there's like burger patties like all there's like each different cut of steak so like my dad loves the ones with not as much fat like he loves the sirloins and flaminio and so I'll like give those to him and then I love all the fatty cuts so like I'll keep those
Starting point is 01:12:40 but but I'm sure if I were to eat steak that much and like pay for all of them it would be so much more money just recently started to or people will come up and like call her by her name. But for the first, like, solid year, year and a half, like, we don't get, she doesn't get referred to as Katie. Yeah, it's steak girl. Steak girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Like, I've had steak, like, yelled at me a couple of times. Yeah, we'll be in, like. Steak! I'm like, yeah. We're, like, shopping in a clothing store and, like, you'll just hear the word steak. Yeah. Or that's the girl who eat steak, like, I'll hear it, like. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Yeah. Like, I would never hear Katie. Recently, I've started to hear, like, people say my name. But, like, before it was either, like, Stephanie or State Girl. Like, I do crafts. I'm like, I'm branching out, guys. Like, for Abby, it's, you're Matt and Abby. Really?
Starting point is 01:13:32 Are you Matt and Abby? I'm like, yes. Oh. Thank you. Nobody knows her last name. That's okay. Howard? Howard.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Howard. Hey, yeah. My mom said the other day, she goes, do you ever just want to say, well, I'm Abby? And I'm like, no. You should be a steak for Halloween. You should just just wear a state costume. Lady Gaga, like, dressed up in, like, a state costume one time, and I just get, I got tagged in it so many times.
Starting point is 01:13:59 And then Lady Gaga followed me. I was like, wait, wait, I was freaking out. You're kidding me. Yeah. She followed you? Yeah. But you got to collab with Lady Gaga. I'm, like, too scared to text her.
Starting point is 01:14:09 You got to, you know? You got to DM her. Seriously, okay, we should clip this. You need, you should DM Lady Agar. Hopefully she sees this. and be like, will you eat a steak with me? That would be so cool. And you guys could both, wait, you guys could both wear the steak.
Starting point is 01:14:24 The steak costume? The steak costume, like the one that she wore. Yeah. That would be so funny. I would love that, please. I would love that, please. Please, Lady Gaga. Make this happen.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Wait, is it true that Maple also eats steak? Yeah. She sucks on it. Yeah, I mean, she's teething. And so like, whenever I'm eating it, she's like, you know, babies, they put their mouths on everything. So I'm like, yeah, you can, you can. Go for a girl. Well, if you get like a good crust.
Starting point is 01:14:48 You can't actually eat it. Like she has like one half little tooth coming in. She can't actually eat it. But like I'll give her a big piece and she'll just gna on it. I feel like it feels good for her. Yeah. Get some nutrients too. Right?
Starting point is 01:15:01 This is from Oceana Yeaton. She said, how did you come up with the name Maple Lou? I really loved the name. I curated like a list of names that I loved and one of them was Mabel. It was from the show called Gravity Falls. I don't know if you've heard of it. Oh, yeah. But like there's a girl named Mabel and I always loved her name.
Starting point is 01:15:20 But I also kind of wanted a unique name. And he actually thought of Maple because I was just telling him the names I loved. And he's like, well, what about like Maple? I was like, I like I like it, but it sounds like a grandma. I was like, what about Maple? And then. Yeah. And I just really loved it.
Starting point is 01:15:37 I thought it was so cute. Like, I don't know. I thought if it was like a nature name, a tree name. There's so many like names inspired by nature. I know it's like not very common. Some people thought it was weird. And then Lou just came from my mom. Her name is Lulu.
Starting point is 01:15:51 So that's why L.U. Cute. And she kind of looks just like my mom. Like, so I feel like it's fitting. But yeah, Maple Lou and then Goodman. That sweet. Yeah. People want to know what Tyson does for a living,
Starting point is 01:16:03 which I think we've been over this, but we can just, we can just say it here just so people know. Yeah. Also. Yeah. I mean, I was a bartender. That's where we met.
Starting point is 01:16:11 But now I just help her make videos all day. He's, he's putting the, the little white dots on strawberry cars, right? Yeah. Yellow dots. Professional, you should say I'm a professional craftsman. Right.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Or like project manager behind the scenes. Kay's assistant. Yeah. Production. You're like, I work in production. Yeah. I'm in production. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:40 And I feel like we should ask a few more of these. People want to know, like, what the hardest part of motherhood is. been. Hardest part? I just don't want anything to happen to her. Like, I feel like she's like a piece of my heart just walking around. She's obviously not walking around, but like, I don't know. You just don't want anything to happen to her. What's the hardest part? She's just putting her sleep. Like, she hates going to sleep. Like, she doesn't nap or anything. No. She does, but it'll take like an hour to get her to sleep and then she'll sleep for like 20 minutes. Maybe I'm just doing it wrong. And you got, and you guys co-s sleep? Is that like, we do co-sleep. And I, I,
Starting point is 01:17:16 said it online and I know it's a very like controversial topic. Did anyone get really mad at you? Yeah, they just say that I'm like putting her in danger. But honestly, I'm scared for her to go in the other room or like in her own room. It is weird. Like the thought of her, like she has a room. She has a crib. But it is weird. Like I know we'll get there, but thinking of falling asleep in a different room from her is kind of weird. Yeah. Just because this is what we've gotten used to. Got it. Yeah. But like I feel like when you're in the mindset, that she's in your bed, like, I don't know, you're just not going to move, you know, like you don't do so. I don't know, I just feel like you're still subconsciously awake, you know, even though you're sleeping.
Starting point is 01:17:58 You're not going to roll over on her, whatever, you know, like. And obviously it does happen. Like, I've looked at reports of when it does happen. And usually a lot of the time it's because the parents were either, you know, drunk or high or just in, like, not a, what's, like, not a mindset. What's the word? Like cohering. Yeah, and that's usually when majority of like the accidents happen is in that state. But we take the precautions.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Like we have a bed railing about our like around our bed. So she can't roll off. And then like she sleeps with me and I just use a pillow. We don't really use like I have this one blanket. But is that how you go to bed at eight then? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:41 But I just love sleeping with her. Before you went to bed early. Before I went to bed early too. She goes about at eight and then do you, does she wake up before? Like, she wakes me up. She's like our little rooster. Like she's like, ah, like we'll start kicking us if we're not awake. What time?
Starting point is 01:18:57 Like five in the morning. Like for good? Like for good for the day? 5 a.m. Oh gosh. You're getting up at 5? Every day. She doesn't want to sleep.
Starting point is 01:19:06 No, she's not a very much. At 2 and at midnight. Oh gosh. Making bottles. Yeah. You guys need taking care of babies. Yeah. Have you heard of that course before?
Starting point is 01:19:15 heard of what taking care of babies she lives here i'll connect you with car her name's cara oh really the first time i saw i wanted to kiss her on the mouth because she helped us get some sleep yeah oh really for the first time like a sleep trainer yeah yeah yeah well she has a program she isn't like actually yeah right too late no we did we we held off we waited till 10 months with our first yeah she basically says you know just you know leave him in the room and never that's not true that's the misconception like to cry it out that's the thing that's the thing that's the thing that's the thing that's the thing with you, I'm sure you already know and you've experienced it. You sleep with your baby, wrong.
Starting point is 01:19:50 You train your baby to sleep on their own. Wrong. You do this? Wrong. Wrong. Yeah. And so that's just like the really cool thing about mothering. That's the cool thing about mothering in the public eye.
Starting point is 01:20:03 There's a lot of not cool things about it, but I feel like you probably experience it too or you just like develop your own sense of confidence. You're like, you know what? I'm actually uniquely created to raise this child. and it really doesn't matter what your opinion is. Yeah. Like, because you are not their mother. That's me.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Yeah. And so I'm, if you ever need to talk to anybody about that. Yeah. I could take that. There's always judgments about that, you know. Well, last up,
Starting point is 01:20:32 we have the game of who's more likely. These are fun ones. Oh, no, I don't want it to end. I'm giving yourself on to talk to. Oh, you'll keep talking off. Yeah, we can keep talking off camera. Okay, first up, who's more likely to overcook steak?
Starting point is 01:20:43 Tyson. Have you burnt that before? What's up? Have you burnt a steak before? Burnt the outside? I think like medium well, this is like as far as I'll go on the inside. But like I love a steak medium. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:04 She can eat it rare. Yeah. She can eat it raw. Like we've had steak tartar. I don't love the texture. So like part of me is just kind of worried. So like that's why I feel like. that's why I feel like I sometimes overcook it.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Yeah. But she'll undercook it and she won't care. Yeah. You are hardcore when they come to that. I just love steak. It's just so good. Next who's more likely is who's more likely to forget an anniversary? An anniversary?
Starting point is 01:21:34 Do you guys celebrate your anniversary? Like of dating? I don't know. It's New Year's. It's like, yeah, we do. It's years. It's kind of hard. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:42 No, but we do. We do. I just don't think either of us would forget. Yeah. Okay. I don't think either of us would forget. Well, you guys are perfect. That's awesome. Oh, thanks. But you guys have been, like, you guys have only been together three years? Yeah. Three years? Okay. Okay. But we've known each other before. Like, we were friends for a year before we started. But yeah. Okay, who's more forgetful in general? Tyson. Tyson, for sure. Who's more likely to get jealous? me yeah me I just didn't want to say it why you I don't know
Starting point is 01:22:20 like if someone like talks him a certain way I'm like she was flirting with you like it'll like For example Okay Oh lovely Hopefully she doesn't see this
Starting point is 01:22:30 But I was a bartender And I probably had like One lady who like Really took care of me In like tips you know Like Yeah sugar your mama a lot of money well how much money we talk it 100 bucks like a day a shift for i don't know yeah
Starting point is 01:22:50 minimum 50 okay for like two beers so but like her bill was like 10 bucks and then she would leave 50 bucks like each time and she would only come in when i worked so but she was like i really hope she doesn't see she's a nice lady she's a super sweet lady she's in her 50s maybe 60s um so she's definitely way older and like I never saw it as flirting because like I'm just trying to get money and she's like 60 years old and she didn't like her you know so she was literally flirting with him every day went in there only when he worked she wouldn't she wouldn't go in any other days to like right in the middle of the bar all propped up in front of him like she's flirting with him every day but she was a grandma like literally a grandma she's not a grandma did she ever try to give you a hug
Starting point is 01:23:40 Oh, she did. Each day he gave him a hug. Every day. Yeah. Did it ever go more than a hug? Okay. There you go. Katie would have been like out there just like,
Starting point is 01:23:51 John Cena. Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha. Well, I say I get more. He doesn't really get jealous. Well, now we, neither of us do anything. Like, we're just, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:24:04 We're with each other every single day. Like, we don't go anywhere. We're just working all day. You're not hugging any grandma's now. Yeah. Okay. But yeah. Next, next who's more likely is,
Starting point is 01:24:13 who's more likely to accidentally spill a secret? Me. I love my mom. She's like one of my best friends. Like I'll like spill some of the stuff to her. Not even. Yeah, I just think it's me.
Starting point is 01:24:26 I'll like gossip more than he does. It would be Matt because Matt doesn't know that it's a secret. Like I like tell him something. I kind of felt like that was like something that you knew that I didn't really want repeated. Yeah. And you're like, Oh, my bet.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Wait, but it can also be you sometimes. Like, he's very open with his parents, though. That's funny. Or, like, I'll just say something that, like, kind of like that, like, she would not want me to say. But it just sounds, like, exciting to say, like, you know, something new. Like, I mean, this feels like a good topic to bring up right now. Who's more likely to ask for the manager? Oh, neither of us.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Neither of us. You guys won't do that because you work in the restaurant industry. When you worked into food. Yeah. Yeah, you're like, we're not doing that. No, we need it. Like, we've gone to a restaurant where like, you know, sometimes it's just genuinely bad. Like if you're, I don't know, it's just bad service, whether they're mean or the no refills on water, whatever it may be.
Starting point is 01:25:25 But like, it cannot bring myself to like tip below 25%. No, because you never know. They could be so busy. They could have so much going on. They could have a phone call going on in the kitchen. Like, you never know. Yeah. Even if the food's at, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Like, we chose to go there. I just couldn't do that to someone. Now I'm curious because you said 25% when my mom was like my age, I want to say the standard was 15, but then when I was a server, it was like 20. I think it's still 12. Well, I'd say 25 is generous.
Starting point is 01:25:55 Oh, okay. Yeah. But 20 is standard was what you'd say? Yeah. It's just considering like we both did it, I don't know. It just feels, I guess since we know what it feels like,
Starting point is 01:26:07 it feels better to give someone more than 20%. But do you tip at a coffee? shop if you go to get a coffee yeah but that's like 10% oh i don't dude that's actually it's funny you say that because that's how i do it in my head i'm like am i sitting down and they're bringing me my food and stuff then i'm doing 20 but if i'm like yeah if i if i go to a coffee shop you often tip more than i keep going back and forth but it's like if i'm going up there and they like you know make the coffee give it to me i'm like i guess i'll just do 10 or i don't know i don't know it's gotten weird now, but I see it if it is as like, like, it's getting weird now, but I see it if it's a service.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Yeah. Then, like, of course I will. And, like, I'll do it generously. That is the problem because I think everywhere asks for a tip. Like, I've been a fast food restaurant where they ask for it. Yeah. That's where I get. That's where I feel protective of servers, though, because I'm like, wait, they took,
Starting point is 01:26:58 came to your table, took your order. Yeah. Filled your drinks, cleaned up after you. Because servers are getting paid less than minimum wage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:07 I feel like that's like a whole like huge topic is like tips because some people think like know that, you know, the restaurants should just like be paying instead of that. Yeah. But I don't know. I will always tip and we would never ask for a manager like even not at a restaurant, even out of store or any place. Like you never know what's going on with that person. Who's more likely to make Maple laugh? More likely to be successful or to try it? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:36 To be successful. Probably her. All she has to do is like flip her hair. But like he tries. I try it all day. I try all day. Which I am successful, but like, I don't know. I swear all she has to do is like flip her hair.
Starting point is 01:27:51 She loves my hair. I'll just like put it on her like so she has hair like I'll just like go like that. And then she's like dying. Or all sneeze and she's just like dying. Aw. That's sweet. I'll have to do like a body slam to get like a smile. Like do something.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Crazy. Who's more likely to be the strict parent? Me. Me. What do you do? How do you lay down the law? Because she can't even talk yet. Well, she's not allowed to eat anything.
Starting point is 01:28:19 No McDonald's, no Taco Bell, no panda. She's seven months old. No, she didn't eat that. Are you trying to give your daughter McDonald's? No, but I was just saying that, I'll go out and I'll get Taco Bell and then I'll come home. And Katie's like, you can't eat like that. She's watching you and like. So.
Starting point is 01:28:35 I just care a lot about. about food. Yeah. I don't know. And I want her to know the differences. Like, it's not like I won't allow her to have stuff. Like, that's not the case. I just want her to know, like, what foods will make her feel good.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Mm-hmm. And I know she's right. And like, I don't know. Like, we'll indulge sometimes, you know, or sometimes they'll be like, I don't even know how to word. I just want her to know how much good food can affect you. And like, you know, obviously I went to the extreme.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Like, you don't have to only eat meat to feel good. Like that was like, Like my, like, I just really wanted to fix something that was going on. But, no, I just want her to know how important it is, like, fueling your body the correct way. You know. That's good. No, that's really good. But not even just that with strictness.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Like, I know. That's like, I just want her to have a really good childhood. Like, she's only seven months old right now. Like, I mean, stopped her from doing anything. I feel like even still with our almost three-year-old, I'm like, he doesn't know. Yeah. But we babysit my niece and nephew sometimes. and like we'll take them to the store and like Luna, my niece, she's like my best friend too.
Starting point is 01:29:41 She'll like want to buy something. And it's like, okay. And I'm like, no. And then she'll want to buy something else. Okay. Like it gets to a point where you got to like say no. Yeah, it's different though. Like if they're being bad, like definitely will be stern.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Yeah. I don't know if stern is the same as strict. Yeah. But like, but that's if they're being bad. If they're being good, I'm all for it. Yeah. So. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:06 And who's more likely to overthink parenting decisions? What do you mean as in parenting decisions? Like what kind of decisions? Probably, yeah, probably like... Well, with a baby, it's like feeding, uh, sleep. Yeah. If we're, if you're sleep training, if you're co-sleeping, yeah, like decisions about the doctor. With babies, it's a little bit, there's like fewer, there's like a lot more decisions, but fewer categories of decisions.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Yeah, yeah. Now we're in the stage of like preschool. Yeah, we also have to like, get to discipline now because our kids, we have to teach them that they can't just like whine to get what they want. Right. You don't want to like reinforce like every time they cry, they get a popsicle, you know?
Starting point is 01:30:48 Right. Yeah. We don't want to teach them that. Yeah. I would overthink like in the sense of like, I'm super protective. Like something new scares me because she's a baby. So like like a food, like trying to get different food.
Starting point is 01:31:03 I'm like, we're just slowly introducing food right now. You feel like you're watching her for the next 30 minutes to make sure nothing happens. That is freaky. So like I feel like I overthinking that perspective. That's something you did really lock in on. I would get terrified. He eating so much food out of our kids' mouths.
Starting point is 01:31:19 We have one of those like choking devices to suck the food out if they ever choke. Oh my gosh. We need to get one on us. You put it in their mouth. No, it just goes over the top and it's just like a it's. Did you ever have to use it? We've never had to use it. Thank goodness.
Starting point is 01:31:32 We have two of them. We are locked. and loaded though. Yeah. Good. Get one in the car. We need to meet one of those into the car. We need a third.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Get another one. We should get a couple more. Yeah. I should have one in my pocket at all times. You probably would. You would pull it out and sit on the counter. It was just like ready. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Well, I used to sneak candy as a kid. And so I walked into the closet or to the pantry and like I was eating Jolly Ranchers. And I remember I choked on one as a little boy. And like, I saw. still remember it and that was like really scary like you couldn't breathe no my dad had to get it out um how did he do that did he dig it out with his finger first or did he just go highmlich he like squows me yeah and you but you don't remember it i was like five or six but i remember it i just don't remember exactly how he got it out i just remember you're scared me because that's our son
Starting point is 01:32:25 does that too he'll go in the pantry and just like chow down on some sweets yeah because like if you're not supposed to eat something you'll go hide and do it yeah and try and do it also i'm not trying to scary but like if you're not supposed to be doing something you're gonna do it faster you know yes yes instead of like I could have just been sucking on the giant you're enjoying it I'm like trying to hurry yeah that stuff freely then that's so spooky but no I definitely want to get one of those yeah I mean she doesn't even eat yet and we're scared yeah like she'll like that's the scariest part though when you're they're just starting because they're supposed to do that type of stuff but it's just like it doesn't feel right yeah
Starting point is 01:33:02 Is there anything we haven't talked about today that we should talk about? Wait, I wanted to know this. Earlier we were talking about how you like to walk around Timby Marketplace by yourself, and now you're like, you can't. Yeah. Do you get mom? Yeah. I just feel like I'm more anxious now that I'm like I just feel like I'm being watched now.
Starting point is 01:33:19 Do you feel that when you're going places that you like being watched? Yeah. And that feels like that. I just feel like I'm being watched. Yeah, I'm just a movieist to it. Yeah. Yeah. It is creepy when you see. Have you ever seen a video pop up on you up, pop up.
Starting point is 01:33:32 pop up of you on social media that like you didn't know you're being filmed this one was just like filming you I haven't had that it's eerie it's like no like you didn't ask for my permission and you just took a video yeah no I haven't I felt myself being recorded it's uncomfy yeah unless like if they know like there's been a few times like we were in Disney and these like you know high school girls are like oh record and then I'm like hi like then I like wave and like that doesn't bother me I don't yeah but I don't know I remember I was pregnant with Augie I was like in a bikini for the first time and just like in a really awkward stage of frequency and this girl was literally six feet from me just like recording it did you like say anything like hey no nothing i think i just felt really i think i was
Starting point is 01:34:15 like i want to go so uncomfortable yeah but okay so you feel like you're being watched then you don't like yeah people are always coming up asking for pictures with her like i don't know it's just different like she i say when we started dating um she loved going places by yourself. Oh, I was obsessed with it. I'd rather go places alone. Then, like, with somebody. Like, I just loved it.
Starting point is 01:34:38 Nobody could rush me. You know, I just, I don't know. I was a big fan at going places alone. Now, not so much. I think one, because of the media and also two, because of Maple, like, yeah. She's so good in public. I'm just always like, okay, now you need a nap.
Starting point is 01:34:52 We need to go, you know. Do you feel like it's giving you, like, social anxiety? Yeah. Yeah. And, like, I had none before then, you know? Oh, wow. Okay. So, yeah, just a little bit.
Starting point is 01:35:04 It's cool, like, 99. And I've had nothing but nice interactions. Like, I have nothing to be, like, afraid of. I haven't had anything bad happen. Everyone has always been so sweet. I don't know. It's just in my head, like, whoa, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:20 That's crazy. Like, we were in Florida, and it seemed like everyone, like, was recognizing us on the beach. Went to a basketball game. People sitting next to us. We were walking across our cross. crosswalk and like the lady rolled down her window and yelled at her and like it's just so weird like you just don't expect it so I feel like for her it makes her like anxious and for me it like makes me
Starting point is 01:35:43 like protective or just kind of looking out yeah oh and now with the baby too like sometimes people will go like like straight to go say hi to her you know yeah which is weird like they'll want to like see her which is fine but like we've also had a lady like come and like take a picture of her and like that yeah and no i'll say anything just boom and took a picture of mabel no it was weird that is one weird thing she was like hi guys and then and like it's weird stuff but like did you like run after her and like swat her phone out go all like she was like the worker at like home people when we were there she was on the job and took a picture up here baby yes that's so bad yeah you could have reported her yeah yeah no but like we're like
Starting point is 01:36:31 really like I feel like we love everyone that recognizes us like those everyone's so sweet those are our viewers but it is different yeah do you guys get like scared going in public sometimes like never no he does sometimes I just get in my head right no I feel like it's mainly like in my head and then I go out and I'm like oh they're all so sweet you know Abby also has like she's completely oblivious to anybody recognizing her though like she just has no idea sorry I just That's concerning in itself. My friends will be like, oh, like that. And I'm like, and it's a little concerning.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Like I'll pick a fight with Matt and an oldie. And Matt's like, you know, people could know us. Like maybe just save it for the car. You know, we could. Yeah, like, I would rather this disagreement not end up in on TMZ. I remember you told me that I was like, this just shows the next level of like, whew. Yeah. So I need to get, I'm the one that's weird.
Starting point is 01:37:31 I mean, I saw you. You didn't notice. me. So that kind of seeks for it. I mean, I didn't do anything like out of the, I obviously wasn't taking a picture or recording you. I was just telling him about you and like, you didn't notice. I was like, oh, I love myself. Yeah. What do you feel about Texas Roadhouse? Oh, I love it. Their steak. Oh, we get the, she's like not their stick. I like their prime rib. And it's not there all the time because they have a certain amount at the beginning and they sell out of what they have. So you got to get there while they still have them.
Starting point is 01:38:02 It's like slow-cooked. Longhorn. Do you like prime rib? To Longhorn. Longhorn? Oh, I like Longhorn. I like Longhorn. It's SpongeBob.
Starting point is 01:38:14 She likes everywhere. Oh, my gosh. I like Longhorn. I like Longhorn. Well, Longhorn's iconic for its parmesan-crusted steak. And I feel like that's who started the Parmesan-crested steak. I like Longhorn. He's not a big.
Starting point is 01:38:32 fan of Longhorn. Ooh, wait, I love this. It's like we're playing steak, a steak restaurant game. Outback. Where do we get our steak? No to Outback. I'm trying to think of like.
Starting point is 01:38:45 I don't know if we've ever eaten it Outback. I don't think we have either. I have. I've had steaks out of. Wait a minute. Someone DM me and they're like, actually the best steak is that I hop.
Starting point is 01:38:57 No way. I'm not kidding. No shot. I know they had steaks. I don't remember. Am I hot aisle? I don't think so, but we'll go to, like, cracker barrel and she'll get a New York strip with eggs.
Starting point is 01:39:09 It's good? I mean, I don't think any restaurant steak could be as good as the one I make at home. Yours look at a restaurant. Like, I always, like, get a steak at a restaurant, and I usually end up just liking mine more. Although, Ramsey, I did like his. I went to his restaurant. Gordon Ramsey's.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Well, he has a restaurant in, like, Vegas. I guess you can only, the only one that can rival yours is Gordon Ramsey. You literally. So good. is Gorda Ramsey. Oh, we wish. That'd be so cool. Right, we need to say it out loud.
Starting point is 01:39:37 We got to make it happen. You know how it's happening. Like the, he'll respond to people making the flaminion. Yeah. Not the flaminion. The beef wellington. He'll respond to people. So I made one.
Starting point is 01:39:47 I was like, he never responded to it. But I don't. Yeah, but then it got like turned into an ad. Like Instagram made it an ad. Like, of me making it beef Wellington. I don't know. I didn't get paid for this. No, they paid me.
Starting point is 01:40:01 Permission. Yeah. They asked me permission and they like bought the video of me making it. Instagram did? Yeah. And then they used it. I don't know. I wanted ramp to you.
Starting point is 01:40:11 That didn't happen. That's funny. Well, thank you for coming on the podcast, you guys. Where's the best place for people to connect with you? TikTok, YouTube. Yeah. YouTube, Katie and Tyson. TikTok.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Katie, you can honestly probably just look up State Girl. Like, and I'll probably prop up. That's so funny. Yeah. Well, I love it. everybody go check out Katie and Tyson on YouTube and Katie Church on TikTok and Instagram and we'll see you in the next episode.

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