The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Waiting ‘till marriage & raising 2 kids in a tiny home w/ Carson & Brielle Matranga

Episode Date: July 29, 2026

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direct deposit and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block Inc brand. Visit cash.app slash legal slash podcast for full disclosures. Is it true that you guys moved in together when you were 15 and 16? Yes, that is true. Your parents like chill with that? Well, yeah, not at first. Carson Matranga went massively viral this year after his wife, Breel shared a storytime video of him and their daughter, introducing the Matranga's to millions. Please call my dead death. Was there ever a worry of getting pregnant, like when you're in high school. We never did anything like that until after marriage. Oh, no way.

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If I'm a squirrel, I'm living in that tree. They open up about getting married young, Brielle's battle with anxiety, and what it's really like raising a family in a tiny home all on today's episode. Please welcome, Carson and Breel. Betranga! Woo!

Yeah, baby. I'm excited. You guys, they brought us an entire king cake from New Orleans. They flew with this thing. We did. With thousands of miles. With the big car seats.

Yeah, with two car seats, two kids, a sister and a mother. And two little kids. Yeah, two little kids. Three-year-old and ten-month-old. Oh, my. That was a labor of love, you guys. Thank you so much.

Look at how nice. This thing smells. smells so good. Your mom made it. Yes, yes. My mom made it. I was like, okay. What is the season for King?

Is it Christmas? No, it's Mardi Gras. Oh, duh. I'm so dumb. It's okay. No, no, no, no, you're not. You're fine. Okay, so there's a hidden baby somewhere in there.

What happens if you accidentally cut the baby? Because that seems dark. Yeah. Especially because it's supposed to be Jesus. So. Yeah. Eesh. I'm wondering if you got it.

First piece. That would be crazy if you did. If we get baby Jesus in the first piece, that's like a sign from above that this podcast was supposed to happen. It smells so good. Don't say that because now he was not in it. She forgot. Okay, Abby, we're both going to take a big bite of kingcake at the same time. You got to serve something to the guest.

Oh, wait, yes. Would you guys like some? I don't, but maybe he went some. I'll take a little piece. I just put my hands all over it. Here, I'll make this one for me. I saw you just come out of the bathroom, so hopefully you watched my hands. Yeah, that seriously.

Here, I'll give you. you a piece with the gold on it. So there is a baby Jesus in this there is a baby Jesus somewhere in this cake, yes. You don't. And the tradition is if you get the baby Jesus, then you have to bring the king cake to the next function. That's fun. Yes. I never knew about any of this until today. Never in my life. But everyone in

Louisiana knows about this. Oh yeah. This is a Louisiana thing. The king cake, like this happens all the time. Yes. Wow. Yeah. That's so fascinating. I know. I knew that like marty grow was a big deal there. I think I'm from St. Louis and I think St. Louis has like a decent marty garbara parade. Nothing compared to Louisiana but okay should we try this? Yeah, should we go. I'm like I try it. I'm seeing if I have a baby first. Okay ma. Oh my god. That is fire. Shout out Nani. So very. Oh my god. So sugary. I'm not have a

hard time focusing looking at that this whole time. You guys that's delicious. Your mom knows how to cook or bake. Definitely. Okay. That's my goals as a grandma. To be able to whip something up like this. I'm not kidding. I talked to Matt about being a grandma all the time.

Yes. I'm so excited. That is so cute. Okay, you keep talking. I want to keep eating. You guys went mega viral a couple months ago with a video of you telling your daughter a story. Yes. And dude, Abby showed me this video.

I feel like everyone's seen it. It has hundreds of millions of views, which is just, ridiculous. Like it's, dude, that's, that's like a, that's like 10% of the world that's seen this video. You know what I'm saying? When you put it in that perspective, that isn't crazy. Which is pretty wild. Yeah.

What's the backstory of, of that viral video? It's honestly not even that crazy of a backstory. I was just being my genuine self. My daughter came up to me and she asked me to tell her a story and she gave me the premise of the story. She's like, I want you to tell me a story about a little girl that was being mean to her dad-dad and I said okay right sure and so I'm telling her this story and she's kind of sleepy too at this point but I'm telling her this story and she's like she's she's like locked into this story and I'm just telling her as a dad like I'm trying like not to cry but also not not to laugh

and everything like I'm trying to like just be the storyteller and then braille takes her phone and she starts recording because she's like I need to keep this moment forever and and after I'm done telling a story like a hug or whatever because I don't like to see her cry like you know that was so sad. By the same time, I was so proud that, like, she was able at three years old to feel that from a story. You know what I mean? And so, Briel, she showed me the video. She goes, you have to post that right now. And, like, I'm like, I don't know if I should post it, babe. I'm like, she's crying a little bit. She's like, yeah, but it's not like a negative thing. Like, this is, like, so cute, like, what just happened. Yeah. And, um, and I was like, I mean, if you think so,

so, then sure. And, you know, I don't know how you guys are. If, like, you post at a certain time and all this kind of stuff. But, like, we're pretty, like, diligent about, like, posting at 3 p.m. Central time. Oh, really? Yeah, I don't they just I don't know we just found like that to be like the best time for us So it was like past our post time. I'm like baby it's already like an hour and a half past post time blah blah She's like Carson it doesn't matter just post and I said okay fine and so I post it and literally within minutes Millions and I was just like this is crazy this is like this is the most viral video we have ever had Has your daughter always been an empath? Yes we we remember we have um our I guess it's like my great uncle. He, he,

it's like a head of like a hospital. And he has seen like a lot of patients and stuff before. And when Zalia was like a few months old, I will never forget. He literally looked at her and he goes, she's going to be a very empathetic person. Like I can just tell by how she like is observant and everything that she's going to be like a really, like

a person that really cares deeply of people. And I was like, wow. Like, I don't know. So if you ask, I guess, professional trained eyes, if that makes sense, like they've told us that, you know? That she kind of always was going to have that empathy kind of, you know, part about her, whatever, you know, that may have been. You think she was, like, born with that?

Or is that something? Because I'm like, how do you raise your, I feel like three-year-olds and toddlers in general? Like, their job really is kind of to be selfish, like, focus on themselves. But, like, it's so unique that she is, like, so empathetic like that. Yeah. We kind of talk to her like she's a person. Like, we don't talk to her like she's a kid. And I don't know if that has anything to do with it.

Yeah. It might just be her, though, too, you know? Yeah. I mean, even our son, like, he's very observant. And, but it's funny, Zalia, when she was little, like, she's still little. But when she was younger, she was very cautious of everything, too. You know, she was a climber, but she was a very cautious climber. Lyric, our son, 10 months, that boy is not cautious at all.

Like, he's very capable of everything he does, but he's, like, way, I don't want to speak that he says and say he's clumsy, but, like, he's more clumsy than our daughter was. So yeah, I don't know I might have just been always a part of her What was the most surprising thing To come out of that video Was there like Was there somebody that commented that was like Oh, that's cool

John Sina commented on the video Like what has anything like that happened? Wait, did John Sina comment on it? I just made up that I don't know if he did We couldn't see it so it's alright Oh really? I'm glad somebody got the joke

Wait I don't get the joke You can't see John Sina Get it like that's his whole thing you can't see me I've never heard of that okay didn't know that wait why did nobody ever tell me that am I dumb no I didn't know it either that's his thing like that's John like when he jumps in the ring I mean I don't watch wrestling but I'm pretty sure when he jumps in the ring he's like you can't see me guys I've watched entire movies with John C and I've never heard of that in my entire like hey tail jokes about it every time really yeah like like like

they're looking past him like why why aren't you looking at me they're like what we live under a rock it's okay it's okay it's okay it's Okay, it's okay. I'm acting like I'm like lockdown, but I'm not. I even watch peacemaker with John Cena. Like that's his own show. He's the main character. Still let know that. Whatever. It's okay. It's okay. Thanks for educating me. Of course. Of course. Anytime. It's really educational for us. But to answer your question. I've had more famous people follow me from that video than like I didn't, I don't know. They had, I just kept seeing like blue checks like really. Yeah, follow follow. And I was just like.

And she would honestly just take my phone and she would like look through like the activity And she's like Carson I don't know Christina Perry's following you I was like whoa Why do I not know who Christina Perry is? I'm okay am I It's okay

It's just interesting Yeah it was just yeah Dance with the stars people Was liking the pictures and everything And the video rather And um But I think the main thing that I Surprised me

Was the amount of love that we got from that video Because I was so concerned about negativity You know because like Posting your kid kind of crying and stuff But, again, like she said, it wasn't a negative thing. It was like a beautiful moment. And honestly, a lot of people were like, this is how you should be training your kids. Like, tell them a story that's fake.

That but so they won't do stuff. And I'm like, yeah, maybe. And also it's a happy cry too. Yes, it was. She's feeling that is because of, I don't know. I think the video from my interpretation was just this beautiful relationship that you have with your daughter and how much she trusts you. And it was sweet seeing you comfort her when she got sad.

Thank you. So it's sweet. So sweet. Thank you. It's funny you mentioned dancing with the stars. I feel like you got to go on dancing with stars. Don't say I'm a cry, right? Don't say that.

I would love that. Oh my gosh, dude. You guys both have dance backgrounds, right? Just, well, like I guess professionally trained just me. Yeah, yeah. Brielle, not, no. Well, you could tell what happened in the dance studio when you first went in. As a little girl, I was.

I was just really terrified of like men. I don't know why. Like I just was like one of those little girls that like. I was like fresh. She's with me. I just was like that. So I went in first day of dance and it was like a male assistant and I never went back. Oh really?

Yeah. And so I just didn't stick with it. And I was also a very shy kid. You kind of were too. But dance actually brought that out of him. I was definitely like so shy. I was like, I was the oldest, but I would get my younger brother. I would, like, if we were at the playground, I would send him out,

I'm like, hey, go make some friends. Want you establish that? Come back to me, and then we'll all go play. Your younger brother, you see it out? Yes, my younger brother. Everybody thinks he's older because he's, like, huge now. Like, he's, like, really built. But I'm older.

I'm going to stick by that. I'm the bigger brother, Gavin. Anyway, but no, yeah, so I was super shy. And then Michael Jackson passed away, which is actually 17 years ago today. He passed away. And I did not know who he was at all. neither de Breel, and we both fell in love with the art of, like, performing, and we would literally copy his moves, like, to a tea. And my family, I would hold, like, a family dinner night where, like,

all my family came, like, aunts, uncles, grandparents, everything, and I would literally perform in front of the TV for them while they ate dinner. And, like, I think it was, like, that moment, I, like, unlocked something for me, like, seeing how happy and, like, in the moment they were because of something that I was doing, that's, like, I never want to do anything but this, you know? And so I stuck with it. I mean, I still, like I like to teach and everything still to this day. But that moment was like a light switch turned on, you know? And fill me in on the Louisiana culture of family, because family plays a huge part. Yes. In your upbringing, right? 100%. So, so what, like, like, do you speak French? No. You don't? No. That's what people,

that's what like, like what they speak though, right? Or Creole? They speak Creole, but we don't, we're not in that area kind of like that's kind of more like I guess do you guys have like a country kind of like like feel in Arizona like yeah like that's kind of like like like that's the country I think that's like kind of like this the equivalent to like Cajun like if that makes sense yeah yeah we're not really tapped into that just because we don't we don't we don't live in that area okay we know of it you know and like there's swamp tours and stuff like that where like Cajun people like bring you around and show you the alligators and where they live. Alligators?

Yeah, and you name it. They have it. Did you ever almost get bitten by an alligator as a kid? No, she used to have a pet alligator. What? You had a pet alligator? Yes, a little baby alligator. It was so cute.

Does everybody believe you? I still don't think she believed. That question was so funny. No, no, I don't think, I don't think. Is that legal? I don't think so. Okay. I don't know.

I was a kid, and I let it go. Like, I only had it for like a couple weeks. You found it yourself? Like in the wild. No, my uncle brought it over and he was like look what I got for you. And I was like, this is so cool. I was like, I don't even know how well. I was like seven or eight and um, um, that's crazy. I'm like scared of them. He like came with like tape on his mouth and it was like this big. It was like actually it was so cute. And like seeing him like walk around. We gave him like a little raw chicken and stuff. Um, and then my, yeah. And my aunt actually lived like on some kind of property that had alligators and stuff. So we just let him go in that in her backyard. And I don't know if he's still there. But hopefully he's okay. Yeah. Sheesh, that's so crazy. And we've never been, so fill me in and fill other people in on, what is a crawfish boil like? Oh my God. Because that's the big part of the culture, right?

Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's something else my daughter absolutely loves right now. She found crawfish and is like that's all she wants to eat. But she doesn't eat it. She just loves to peel them. Yep.

She doesn't actually want to eat them at all. She just wants to sit there and peel it and act like she is. Yeah. That is like the get-together in Louisiana. Any excuse you can think of, we're having a crawfish bowl. But they have to be in season. So it's around the same time as Kinkake. So you're having like Kinkake and Krofish.

Yeah, it's great. We gotta go. What's that season? It's like in February. Okay. It's like February to like beginning of June is like the end of it. Yes. Yeah.

So you have, have you guys ever heard of like Fat Tuesday or like Ash Wednesday? Yeah, yeah. Okay. So you basically. Basically before Ash Wednesday, you like party it up. You do like everything you can do and again we don't do like we don't really do this we don't like follow it but like we know of it because we live there But we are people like being naked? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't yeah don't yeah don't look like listen as as a person who's went on Bourbon Street on Mardi Gras day Not recommend would not why do you not go to Bourbon Street? I am terrified He was traumatized I was traumatized I was traumatized

I've seen things I never wanted to see before in my life. Okay? Like, what are we talking about? Can I actually say it on the pod? Sure, I mean, what the heck. I guess you can always edit it out if it's too much. Okay, like people have like made giant crafted, like private parts and like walked around with them on birth.

Yeah. And like I was a child. Like, okay, I say child. No, it was probably like 12. Like, I was probably 13. I was like 13. Thank you to Zach Doc for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. I'm actually going to use Zach Doc later today because I need an Adderall refill.

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That's Z-O-C-D-C.com slash unplanned. Is it legal? You know, that's what I asked myself. In New Orleans, a lot of things that aren't legal around the country. They can get away with. Yeah, like you can drink alcohol walking around. I didn't know that wasn't normal until we had some friends from out of town come in.

And they're like, why does your daquery shop have a drive-through? And we're like, I don't know. It just does? Yeah, yours does it? It's like, just make sure you don't put the straw in the cup and then you'll be fine if a cop pulls you over. So what I'm hearing is if you go to Bourbon Street on Mardi Gras, you're going to see naked people in private parts that are like replicas. Yeah, a bunch of...

Replicas in real. In real. In real. Yeah. Maybe we won't bring the kids. No, but... No. But we do not bring the kids. No, but we do have, like, other parades that, like, aren't, you know, in New Orleans. Or if you can, like, get a good spot in New Orleans for certain parades, it can be nice, for sure. How old for you when you... In your experiences? I think I was, like, 13. Who brought you to this? Well, okay. Look, again, as I said, we didn't grow up doing this. So my mom was like, you guys are older now. Like, I think we can go. And my aunts and uncles and stuff, like, they, they have gone a few times.

Okay. And, like, their house is actually, like, a block around, a block from, like, where the parades go. Yeah, they live there. Yeah. And so we stay at their house and then, like, went for Mardi Gras. And my mom was like, oh, no, like, we can go try it out. And we're like, okay, cool. We try it out and we're like, yeah, never going back, mom.

No. You know, um. None of the kids like to go now. Yeah, no. It's just, it wasn't, it's just not our vibe. It's all right. It's, like, if you like Mardi Gras, more power to you. More power to you.

You know, I just- Like, I'll just eat the kingcake in my house. I'll just, yes. I'll go home and I'll throw beads to you guys and eat king cake and eat crawfish. And we're good. But you said if they're topless, they get better beads. Correct. Yeah, like, so they would like, they shake their chest basically to get more beads. So like the float comes by.

They just say like, throw me something mister. Yeah, yeah. Because they make shirts that say that. Yeah, like when you drive through New Orleans, like you're going to see like mannequins with shirts with like a woman's chest. Okay. Okay. Yeah, all right. And so they do that, and it's basically so that they can give the better beads thrown to them.

Yeah. The better beads. Yeah. Which is literally just plastic beads like that, but maybe just like bigger. Yeah. They do have some that are huge. Yeah. I think people like the huge beads or like they like the little really small ones that we brought you.

I don't know. But it's so. Yeah. It's just, it's strange, honestly. I feel like we just went in a complete curveball direction. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. Because I thought we were talking.

You thought the king came. Yeah. Jesus is in this king cake and then you're telling me that women are shaking their chest for some yeah so like so how does that correlate? So this is what my mom told me, she's like you know how you know kids like they kind of have like to get all this energy and they get all crazy and they do all these crazy things and then they just like kind of go to sleep after. Think about that for adults like they just got to do all this crazy stuff all this crazy

stuff right before Ash Wednesday and like you know and then once the Ash Wednesday comes like they got they chill out. Okay. So like they get all that and then they're forgiven. Yeah. Like I think I think I think again. Again, we don't know. We don't know.

I've never drank an ounce of alcohol in my life or anything. So I really, we're not like tapped in. We just know because we live around there. Just want to promise that. I am so fascinated, seriously, because I think that my knowledge of Mardi Gras and, like, New Orleans in general, kind of stopped at Princess and the Frog. I'm totally honest with you.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, that's where I probably get most of my... It does a pretty good job. I mean, yeah. That's my understanding of Louisiana is just Princess and the Frog. That was the G-rated version, though.

Now I'm learning them more. No, it's really just around that time. Yeah, it's like that. But we went, we actually, because I think it's, you guys can tell us, are you guys from Phoenix? No, we're from Missouri. Oh, okay, cool. Illinois. Abby's from, yeah, Illinois.

I'm from St. Louis. Okay, cool. So, like, being from, like, we're 30 minutes away from New Orleans. So being from New Orleans, we never really, like, go to the city. Okay. Much. And so we didn't really, like, I don't know. I don't necessarily say appreciate New Orleans, but it just wasn't something that we thought of like, oh, this is cool.

You know what I mean? Yeah. But we actually went, yeah. But we actually went for our anniversary this year. It kind of just like explored the city like as a tourist. And it was actually like so nice. Like walking around like and taking in things, you know, and kind of like pretending to be a tourist. So you guys didn't meet doing dance.

I don't know why I thought that originally. Because it does tie. It does tie in. So our relationship story is I love it. You've been together for a long time for being. so young. Yes. So we have known each other since 2013. But we got together in 20s, end of 2016. Yeah, in 2016. Start of 2017, technically, because guys, if you don't know this, I'm going to let you know, you have to ask a woman to be their girlfriend. I did not know. I didn't know that. I didn't know either, bro. I didn't know this. I was calling her my girlfriend. Abby's like, what the heck is that? I know. I was like, I didn't know how to ask you. Like, what? I was calling her my girlfriend. Abby's like, what? I know. I was like, I didn't know how to ask you. Like, what? What? So I did a whole dance video and I asked her. It was fun.

But yeah, because my mom and all in them were like, wait, like, is you your girlfriend? I was like, I mean, I think so. Like, she says like my love to me and stuff like on the text. And then. It's different. And as soon as I like said I love you in person, she stopped calling me anything. She still doesn't call me anything. Okay, all right. Anyways. So how we got together. Definitely me. Yeah. Yeah. Same, bro.

Same. Oh, yeah. And he freaked out. I freaked out. Okay, listen, listen. Do we want to go down? We actually got together. We got to know your love story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, okay, we'll work in reverse.

Okay, so I said I love you first and I was terrified because like I was trying to do everything the correct way. Like, you know, people were telling me like, don't say I love you too fast and do this, that, and the other than I'm like, okay, yeah, I really like this girl. Like, I don't want to mess it up. You know, because again, she said we met each, we knew about each other until since 2013. but we never met each other in person and then we never like spoke romantically or anything like that I mean we were I was 13 and she was 12 like we didn't know what that was I just knew that I thought

she was beautiful like at 13 but my mom always told me like before you get a girlfriend that you have to have a car or at least a license a savings account in a job because you're not you're not borrowing money from me and you're not bringing on the back of your bicycle so I said okay so we just talked as friends for like on and off for years does your mom have all boys by chance She has one girl. Three boys, one girl. Okay. Three boys.

Yeah. Yep. Yep. She got her lines, like, nailed down for what, how she's going to raise her boys. Oh, yeah. And so, um, so anyway, yeah, that's, that's, that's how it was. So whenever I finally got a car, have a savings account, got a job, um, I finally, like, was like, like, hey, do you want to, like, go on a date, you know, blah, blah, blah.

And it was like a, what, our third date or something like that? I would, okay. Also, again, to go back to family. is huge, huge for me. And for us, really. And we always, my mom raised us to say, I love you, goodbye on the phone or anytime like you're, like, because you don't know when the next time you'll see them or if ever, right?

So she's always says, always make sure you tell them that you love them before you say goodbye. And so it just naturally came out when I was telling her goodbye at the Bowling Alley. And I was just like, all right, bye, I love you. And I was like, I didn't mean to say that. Not yet. Wait. And I, dude, I like, in her face dropped. And like, that's why another reason was like, just fricked up like I really just messed up it's like I went in the car and I'm like I'm like

stressing I'm like I didn't even know what stress is but I'm feeling it right now and I was in the car I went home I went home and I was like freaking out like texting or whatever and that the next morning I think or maybe it was even that night I don't remember I like I like go to my mom's room crying and I'm like and I'm like mom I messed up and she's like what what she's thinking like I did like drugs or like drank or like did something and like again at this time I'm 17 right Oh, 17? Yeah. Yeah. And, like, she's thinking, like, I did something like that.

And I was like, I accidentally said, I love you to her. And she's like, oh, my God, cars, you got me freaking out thinking that you did something like crazy, blah, blah, whatever. She goes, if that's what you think messing up is, I'm so proud of you. And so, and I was like, no, mom, I'm being serious. Like, I need your help. Like, what do I do? And so she took my phone. She, like, wrote this big, long message to Rio.

And she's like, look at it. Does that look good? And I was like, yeah, it looks good, ma. And she like, she like, oh, okay, cool. Like, I love you too kind of thing. And I was like, thanks, Ma, love you. So. From my point of view, from her point of view, yeah.

He said it and then his face was like, I shouldn't have. So, like, of course, I was like. Your face, babe, like your face would draw. You like, did you just, did you just do that? Of course, it was like, that's like a big deal. I feel like when you first say I love you. Like, so it took me, but also his face looked like, I shouldn't have said that. And she was literally calling me my love.

Bras, she would literally say, I love you, my love. Good night. And now I, I'm lucky I get dead out because I told her she has to call me deada when we have kids so they know my name is dead now. So like at least she calls me that now. But like, yeah, she doesn't say that anymore. But it's okay. I still love you. Is it true that you guys like moved in together when you were 15 and 16? Yes, that is true. How tell me about that. Do you want to talk about how we met first? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. First how you met. Yeah. Because it goes into that. It goes into that. Yeah, for sure. So like Carson said,

Michael Jackson died We don't know each other At the same exact time We were doing the same thing Like Michael Greg died Our family's freaking out We're like who is that I'm literally

I think I was eight And I was nine Yeah Whatever They're all like This is literally like The greatest artist ever And we're like

Okay show videos And I did the same thing That he did I literally To a T was like dancing Just like him She was way better than me too Way better

He did the same move Over and over and over over again. That's literally all he did. It's okay. And I just loved it. I don't know. But like we said, I didn't actually like to go to like a dance studio. It freaked me out. Whereas he did.

So that kind of created his love for dance. And then he was like, okay, I want to do this. Fast forward a little bit. My little cousin was in the dance recital. And there was a one boy dancer. And that was not common at all. And like I said, like I loved Michael Jackson. He was a boy dancer.

So I'm at the top of the auditorium. And all of a sudden, like, my cousin was like, oh, you're going to like really like this because there's this boy dancer. And I was like, okay. He comes out. He was doing this little like army dance. And I pulled out my phone and I recorded it because I was like, oh, he's cute. Even though literally I could not see his face at all. So recorded it.

And I really did want to talk to him after. But he stayed backstage the whole time. And I was like, okay, like I got to leave. And then how long after did we talk? Dude, it was like the next day. Maybe it was the same week. I was on Instagram. Stalking me.

No, what? She says no, but she was. No, he was tagged in a photo. And I was like, that's him. Same little army outfit. That's him. Click on his profile. Comment under his picture.

And I'm like, hey, like I. This is how old we are. We're about to tell us how old we are. And I was like, hey, I was like, hey. I seen you dancing and actually have a video of you. That sounds really creepy now that I said about. Yeah, I thought, I thought that this was a catfish at this point in time. But at the time, I was just like, hey, like, I took a video of you.

And if you know Carson, he really likes videos of himself. Don't. That's not. That's not true. So, of course, he was like, give me the video. So he was coming back. I was just trying to see if she was real because I thought she was pretty. Yeah. And so he commented back, and he didn't want to give me his number because he thought it was a catfish.

And so. We downloaded KIC. Do you all remember Kicking? Yes. Because, um, yes. Yeah, because Instagram DMs were not even a thing. Yeah. They were not a thing at this time.

And, we went on Kik. I went on kick and then realized that you couldn't send videos. So then he was like, oh, dang, I have to give her my number. So got the number, sent him the video and he was like, oh, maybe she is real. Yeah. And from that point on, we like FaceTime. We had FaceTime and everything. And it was just like, I mean, we're literally 12 and 13.

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Did you grow up dancing? Yeah, actually. I took tap jazz and ballet. That is so sick. Yeah. What age? Since you were nine years old. bro

what's this happening and then you grew up dancing I'm assuming as well okay awesome so don't ask me to dance no no no you're good I got no moves anymore you're good you're good so I don't know how it was for you but like being a male dancer in the space

it was very difficult for me in the south like I had you know dads and everything like speaking really like horrible things about me and stuff like it was no no you're good I didn't I literally didn't phase me but, you know, it was just something that was happening, right? And so it was very hard for me to find, like, a studio. So I would kind of be at a new studio, like, almost every year.

And it's like my mom, literally, she, at time, she drove, you know, 45 minutes away just so I could dance. And, you know, but anyway, so, like, just stuff like that was happening a lot. And so at this point in time, I was like, I'm just going to stop dancing. Like, I just can't. Like, I can't do this anymore. And so it's kind of what I call, like, my dark period, because it's just like, It was very heavy for me because dance was literally everything to me. And the fact that I was getting so hurt from it every time I danced,

like with people and stuff that I thought were my friends, it was just like, it was horrible. Like just making fun of you for being a boy that wanted to dance? For people calling you gay? Yeah. Oh, always. Yeah, that was like, yeah, that was like, yeah. He still gets out on all his videos.

Yeah, I don't really care at this point. But yeah, I would always have guys hitting all me and stuff. And like, I think, I didn't want to say that because like I don't really, I don't want to like, be like, you know, somebody that's not gay, doesn't have it hard. But like, being a straight male, dancer, I feel like, at least in the South, made it even harder because I'm like, that's, I wasn't that, if that makes sense, you know? I think being misunderstood is frustrating.

In general, exactly. Exactly. So, yeah, I was just going through, like, a really hard time. And we haven't talked, like, we didn't talk at this point, like, for a while. And, and I remember, like, going outside and, like, looking up and kind of, like, talking to God, basically, like, what do I do, you know? And I almost, like, remember, like, it sounds so weird, but, like, seeing her face in the stars, right?

Like, I feel like that was, like, my sign to, like, reach back out to her. And it was the strangest thing. For some reason, I could not contact her. No, like, nothing. She deleted all her social media. I did not have her number no more. Like, you name it, it was gone. And if you get to know me a little bit more, I'm really bad with names.

I don't know why. So this is relevant to the story because I, like, really unlock something and I remembered her cousin name somehow. Like, I remembered her cousin's name, and I found him on social media. And I reached out to him like, please tell Breil, I'm trying to come. contact her. And so he sent a picture that he was actually with Brought at that time and sent the picture. I remember it was like the most beautiful picture ever. She didn't have no makeup or nothing. Like, it looked like she just rolled out of bed. She probably had a booger in her eye. But like, I didn't

care. Like it was so like, I was like, this is my woman. And so finally she like got back in touch with me. But it was so crazy because she got back in touch with me and we were leaving to go on a cruise. And I went to go try to text her back. And we had just like left the port where the service wasn't working. And so my text were not going through at all. And she had just texted you. And she had finally text me. You're like, and I was like, why is you not answer me? I was like trying to figure out how to like get.

I was like, mom. Were you trying to pay for the Wi-Fi? I was trying to. Yeah, I was like, Mom, pay for the Wi-Fi. I'll pay you back. Like, come on, get all this kind of stuff. And it was just nothing was working. And I actually wound up winning an iPad on that cruise.

And that is also relevant to the story. Just hear me out. Okay. That's so random. It is random. But when I got back off the cruise, I was still trying to text her. some reason I had an Android phone at the time and it was not texting her and she would not get social media or she didn't have it and I couldn't talk to her to ask her to get it for me just so we

could talk and so when in that iPad was the only way that we're able to talk to each other like I like I messaged her on that iPad for the first like a little I find a way yes exactly that's not I guess that's my point is like all these like being like being young uh being far away from each other being like you know not having social media not not contacting like there was There was always something that came to us and was able to make this work, you know, with all, you know, things kind of going against us, I guess. And so I found her and my life has been amazing ever since. So.

You were texting on the iPad? Yeah. And it was just like, just my little eye cloud email. And, you know, just texting. We're FaceTiming like every night. And finally, this is kind of a funny story. So finally, it was around Halloween. because Bumadilla Halloween came out and I yeah yeah Bumadilla I don't know what that is

you know the Medea movies no why do I not know the references today the Tyler Perry movie gosh I know that name it's okay you and he's so striking out today man no you're good you're good you're so okay back to Bada yeah yeah yeah so you would love it Matt okay so anyway I was like hey that just came out would you want to go see it and she's like yeah yeah i can tell my mom to bring me right now i said okay let's do it and um and i was 16 she was 15 and my uh best friend uh she had a car uh i had my license i didn't have a car yet and so she was like um i'll bring you i'll bring you i i said i just have to convince my mom now like i don't you know and so we got mom i have a savings account i have i have every i hit every criteria you told me to like come on like i need a level up

You know, and so, guys, we probably missed like two movies, okay, of like the screenings, of how long it took to convince my mom to let me go, meet this girl. So, that was the first time we met. And she, like in person. Yeah, in person. After all that time. Because I had seen him on the stage, but he had never seen me. So.

Four years? Of not, I'm just talking. I'm not seeing each other physically. Wow. Yeah. And we were only 30 minutes away the whole time. Yeah. Was it awkward then?

Oh, yeah. She made it awkward. I got it out the car and I was like I was like hey you know whatever she's like hey and I was like you're not gonna give me a hug like I'm like here like with open arms and she's just like immediately and I just kind of was taking my little moment and then I think I like side hugged you yeah then she side hugged me I was like I don't like bro yeah exactly exactly I just was shy had to warm up I'm still surprised she likes me but it's okay not long after that yeah I mean you pretty much moved in what do you mean by moved in so like on and off and then eventually turned in like you guys were like like you guys were like You guys weren't like we guys were breaking up or no no no on and off like she would stay at my house. She would go back what to your dads or grandmas or something. Okay. Yeah. And your parents would, what your parents like chill with that?

Hmm. Yeah. Not well, yeah, not at first. Until they like realized her situation at home. And then like my dad was like, oh no, yeah, I can't bring her back. Like we just had a very different childhood. Yeah. And so right around the time that me and Carson started talking again, my parents.

And my parents were, I think they had just told us they were getting a divorce. Okay. And I had moved in with my dad and my grandmaws and my mom was still like at the house that we were living at. There was just a lot of stuff going on. And I didn't really understand like what a family was until I kind of got with him and went. Like I remember that first day I went to your house. Yeah, it surprised you on your birthday. And I was like, this is so weird.

It was like just a normal family and I just wasn't used to that because I grew up in a very chaotic household. What was happening? Like what was going on that made it so hard to be at home? I was nine and my mom started doing drugs. It wasn't like intentional. She had a lot of medical issues and it just, she became addicted to pills. I think I was 10 and she went to rehab. Okay.

In that time, my parents had split up. So I was living with my dad at an apartment. It was just me and him. Because my sister, I have one sister. She wanted to stay with my mom. I think she had that, like, protectiveness over her. Whereas I just wanted to be away from it. We're living in the apartment, and my mom went to rehab, and she got better.

She did good. And she was good for about a year. My parents got back together. We got a different house. Everything seemed fine, and then she messed up again. And then from that point, it kind of wasn't. like one month she'd be good and then the next month she'd mess up and so it was constant up and down. When you say drugs are these like pain pills from a surgery that then she got addicted to or like

what do you mean? She had a hysterectomy I think at 27 and so it kind of because she had endometriose really bad. Then they said like if you want any chance in having kidney you try now. That's when they tried for me. One thing about endometriose which I never knew is that actually like it gets better when you're pregnant for a lot of women. So she was good. And it kind of like, I think I was like four and she got a hysterectomy. It was kind of after that point that it just changed everything for her. And she just constantly had issues. And then it became to where she kind of made herself have issues so that she could go to the hospital and she could, you know, get more pain. What's it like having a mom that's addicted to drugs? How does that affect you as a kid? It made you have to grow up really

fast. Yeah, I kind of feel like I didn't have a childhood. Like I didn't really get to experience. being the kid because I was just worried all the time. I dealt with anxiety a lot as a kid. I never knew what was going to happen. It actually got worse as I got older, which sucks. But nothing ever felt peaceful. It was constant. It's constant chaos.

Chaos and worry. And I think another part of it was that my dad just wanted to fix everything in that moment. And so he would just be like, okay, like, I'll just get you whatever you want. and we can just like put this behind us. And to me, that just frustrated me because it was like, why are we not, you know, fixing this? It's just like we're kind of like, we're sweeping it under the rug and all of that is still there.

So this happened even into our relationship, you know. I've seen things that I probably never wanted to see, but I'm also so grateful that like, I think God brought us together to like be able to take her from that. Because it was definitely like in that perfect timing. Yeah, like for both of us. Because my parents had just told us that we're getting a divorce. And my mom actually, she started drinking at that time, which was something she never did.

And it was just a whole different side of her. Then my dad was going through it. He was very depressed. So I guess I just didn't feel like I had anywhere to go. Because I would be at my grandma's house with my dad, but then that felt weird. And I just wanted to be at my house in my room. But then being in my house and my room, my mom was, you know. Yeah, passed out in the bathroom.

Passed out, whatever. Yeah. So being around cars and it just felt like, wow, like this is actually what family is supposed to be like, wow, this is like, it was weird to me. And then his parents seen that. And I remember that was like the first time, like your mom was like, well, just let her stay here. And then there wasn't, I mean, it felt weird. I mean, when you think about it, you're 15 years old and you're like, you slept over at your boyfriend's house. Right.

It doesn't seem. That sounds really odd. But, you know, my mom and dad were my entire. life we always had people living with us like we always had a spare room for somebody that needed it yeah and so um you know they had their they wound up having like their fourth kid and uh they actually made um Breel and him like their own room like they was together but like yeah like so breel had her own room because his brother when whenever I came he was eight yeah he was eight so he was just like the little brother yeah a little silly guy and uh and he did not sleep in the in a room like at all like he slept on the

couch or with my mom and dad still like he was not you know and so my mom was like this room was really gonna be for you brielle but like you know we'll just say it's also kingston she felt bad not giving like her actual kid a room right and so they the room kind of like got split in half and uh and like they shared a room and he's actually our editor and uh shout out uncle it um but um but no yeah it was like he was like he was like the third wheel like he he went on all of our dates with us like he's he's awesome but it was just it was just so funny because like yeah she had her own room in the house And, yeah, I don't know. But, yeah, it didn't start that way because his dad, of course, had feelings about it.

Like, any parent, like, I really don't know if we should have our son's girl for living with us, you know. But I think that night is when he's seen it with his own eyes type of thing. And he just felt like he couldn't do that. And so it kind of wasn't ever like, okay, you're living with us now. It just kind of happened. Yeah. And it was like slowly I would like.

Move more stuff. Yeah. Have more clothes here. And then like, oh, just leave that here. And then it just became. I stayed. Was that ever a conversation that you have with your parents? No, and that's the weird thing.

It was like no one just ever talked about it. Like it just happened. I remember, you know, people had feelings about it. But it, I mean, that was apparent. I'm like, how could you ever like let that happen? I guess especially when you're like still there. Like it's not like it was a situation where like my parents weren't around or something like that. It was like they were right there the whole time.

They were right there, but they weren't there, like, present, if that makes sense. And at the time, I think it was like two weeks after we got together, my sister had, she moved out. So like, it was just everybody was living on her own, did not drive yet, didn't have a car, didn't, nothing, didn't have food in the house, you know, like it was. Yeah, I don't know. Was there ever a worry of getting pregnant, like when you're in high school? Was that ever, was that ever a fear? We never did anything like that until after marriage. Oh, no way.

Yeah. So, like, we respected it, you know. Obviously, like, we kissed and stuff, but, like, we never, like, took it further. Just because, I don't know, I think we knew the consequences, if you will, or, like, you know, of that possibility. And, like, we just weren't, I guess we weren't there yet. Like, we wanted our own place, you know? Yeah, we wanted to be at a certain stage in our life before we did that. And it's, I mean, he has a humongous family and like everybody's very, very close.

So it's like even just hanging out in the house, it's like everybody's right there. That was like a weird part of our relationship we kind of like struggled with because we, it's weird when you first get together because I feel like normally it's like, okay, well, like go on dates and then you're like you're apart and then you come to get and it's like a different way of getting to know each other and we didn't have that because we just it was like we literally were constantly with each other so there was moments where you know not a lot but there was like a few moments where I was like I think we need a break like physically from each other just to like kind of like almost like yeah oh I was going to say you're living together but you're also dating and you're in your

kids and so yeah it probably didn't necessarily feel like an option if you guys ever did want to break up or take a break. Oh yeah, we thought. That probably didn't feel like you could. We, yes. That is something that we still think about to this day where it's like, what would, like, we asked, I think you asked me that. Like, what?

Like, if we would have broken up, yeah. Where would I have gone? What would I have done? Where would I be actually? Yeah. That's like the real question is like, where would I be today? Again, it goes back to we really believe that we were just meant to be because like everything truly worked out how it was supposed to, you know?

And it still is. It just proves that like love is stronger than anything. You know, so that's a genuine question that I asked, you know, we asked ourselves too, like, what would have happened? That's honest. That's real. I think hearing about your childhood, it makes me wonder that now you are a mom of two, like how that affects you now raising your own children. So kind of like how I said, the anxiety actually got worse actually when we got together. So like as a kid, it was kind of like, it was a moment. I would feel nervous. I remember like physically. being sick as a kid from just being anxious, but it was like, next day, all better. And I remember we were, I think it was like a few months into like me, like, officially staying at your house.

And I just woke up one night and, like, I felt like there was like an elephant on my chest. And I had never felt that before, like, that way. And I remember, like, I was scared. I was like, what is going on? And it took about how long? of months of like every single day I felt like I was actually dying and I was scared that I was and then I think I lost like 10 pounds which I'm already little so like I look scary everyone told me it was anxiety and I would not believe them I was like there's no way like anxiety

doesn't do that to you like something's wrong with me and then nothing about me is I health anxiety is like the worst for me like I'm terrified of doctors and stuff like that so just the thought of like something being wrong with me I just I struggled with that so as we navigated through that and I finally was like okay like this has to be anxiety like it just makes sense I remember I started to finally feel better I think it was right before we got married and then I was like the best I ever was whenever I got pregnant with Zalia and that whole pregnancy like I felt like amazing like I was like I love the way I feel having her the main thing that is the main thing that it did for me was I could not understand how a parent could do that to their kid.

And you just look at your kid and you're like, there's no way. Like, I would choose anything over you. And I think that was my biggest thing was like I never understood why my mom couldn't just get it together. You know, like, you have two kids that are like begging you basically to get it together and she just wouldn't. I think from that point I just like really looked at Daly and I was like, I need to choose to be better always for. you. I just knew that I had to get better for them. Like I knew that like I could not let anxiety take over my life because I knew that a lot of what my mom started with was anxiety and a lot of things that she grew up with was that. And I know that if she would have gotten the help at a

certain time in her life, I don't think she would have been where she was at. And so I just constantly tell myself that of like, I have to make sure that I get it together because I won't let something control my life and who I. I am because that's not fair to my kids. So I wanted to take every kind of like precaution. And that's why I started like therapy. And I was doing things that felt like I needed to do for them. And I know I struggle with that when I felt it again because I felt good pregnant. And then there was moments after I had died that I felt it again. And I remember beating myself up because it was like, like why? Like you can't do this. Like you're a parent. Like you can't do that.

You guys built your house yourselves, right? Yes. Yeah. Talk to me about that. Because not many people actually build their own house. Yeah, for sure. So at this point in our life, we had just gotten engaged. And where we live, Hurricane Katrina in 2005 destroyed like pretty much every house in sight.

Like my parents had like, I think it was like 10 feet of water in their house. Oh, my gosh. So did insurance pay for their house to be rebuilt? Um, yes and no. What do you mean by that? So my dad chose to take the money and pay off their loan and then just build the house from scratch, basically. Um, so yes, they paid, they paid out the house, basically. They, it wasn't like, I don't know if it was enough to finish the house.

I don't, I don't know all the details. I just know that he did tell me that he wound up just paying off the house with the money that insurance gave him. But hold up. So then he had to buy a new one then after the first one was paid off? no we just rebuilt rebuilt because they had the land and everything so literally what it looked like was just studs everywhere we had a pressure

wash all the mold and everything off so it was literally just a house and a roof standing goodness you remember this yeah yeah I was I was like six so where did you guys go when the hurricane hit uh Georgia yeah we stayed in Georgia

thank goodness you weren't there yeah well yeah we found out so um apparently right before that I mean I was young but this everybody talked about oh that was before the That was before the storm. I have a lot of people talk about like before COVID after COVID. It's kind of like that where we're from. Like, oh, that was before the storm.

I'm like, wasn't there like a Riteite or something right here? And they're like, yeah, that was before the storm. You remember that? And I'm like, yeah. So anyway, yeah, like we came back home and it was disgusting. There was mud like up to your knees and it was just horrible. And so, but my dad and grandpa, they stripped the whole house down, bare bones. Rebuilt it pretty much from scratch.

And we were staying in a trailer, a few. my trailer right in front of our house and they were rebuilding it so that's kind of like my family's like very capable i guess if that makes like you can say so and um does your dad have a construction background no he fixes cars for a living he just knows how to fix stuff he just knows how he's just he's just the guy yeah my and he taught you how to do that that's how you knew how to build a house my grandpa actually so my my grandpa his it's funny his background's printing but um he is he is he's He is the guy. He's the one I taught my dad.

Like during Katrina, the rebuild the house after Katrina, like he's the one that like, it was like, hey, like this is the book you need to read. You got this. Here's this how you read a tape measure, this, whatever. And like my dad picked it up like nothing. And same thing for me. Like my grandpa taught me how to, in Braille, how to build a house. And so during COVID, we got engaged literally the day COVID hit.

It makes, that's a whole crazy story in itself. But, yeah, anyway. So my parents, the. reason I bring up Katrina is because the people that live next door to my parents before the storm, they did not move back. So their house just got destroyed and they just left it. And so because my parents live right next door, they were able to buy that property. They had like first dibs, basically, for like super cheap. And so we had that property basically where another house could be and we built a little pool house, mother-in-law, whatever you want to call it, on that, on that property.

and Brielle thought it was a joke. She really thought it was joke because my mom was like, just go build a little house back there. And I was like, are you for real? And my dad's like, yeah, y'all can. I don't know, whatever. And we're like, okay, cool. And so I literally went outside with some bricks and I'm kind of like laying stuff out.

And I was like, what are you doing? And she's, I'm like, they said we could. And then she's like, they weren't serious. I'm like, my parents are serious, you know? And so then my dad gets out there and he's like marking it out with us. And Bril's like, this is not real life. And we're like, you know, Yes, it is. So my grandpa, he has like some health conditions, stuff like that.

Like he has problems with us heart. He had multiple heart attacks and whatnot. So during COVID, he just stayed with, like pretty much stayed by our house. Like not sleep. Like you didn't sleep there, but like instead of going to work and all that kind of stuff, he just stayed with us. And every day, that's what we're doing. We're building the tiny home. It was me, Brielle, and my grandpa building that tiny home from the ground up. That's impressive with his heart too. Yeah. Yeah. Don't tell him he had a heart attack. He still doesn't believe he had a heart attack. That's how he is.

We love them. Is it hard not to get in arguments when you're in a 560 square foot space together with two kids? With two kids. That's probably the hardest part because me and bro trying to have a passionate conversation. We don't argue really. We just like are pretty passionate when we speak sometimes. And Zaya's like, guys, listen, listen, it's all right, guys. And I'm like, Zali, we're not mad at each other.

Like we're good. You know, she's like, I know, but guys. You got to turn your volume down, guys. And I'm like, Zali, we're just talking. Like, it's all right. The best time to have a conversation is when both kids fall asleep in the car and you're driving around. Definitely. We definitely have to get out the house a lot.

And Tiny Home didn't even start at 560 square foot. I think that's like with my dad's shed included, the 560. Is it 412? It was 416. Oh, 416. It was literally just a studio apartment. Yeah, it was just one room at the bathroom. And I always knew we were going to have one kid in it.

But then when we were like property and housing and all that kind of stuff, because again, the storm hit. And so some of the houses that were rebuilt were through Katrina. And like they didn't do the due diligence like my grandpa and my dad did. So like they might have had underlying conditions and something like that for the houses that we could afford. And we're just like, this is just not the way to go. So when we wanted to have another kid. So I was like, okay, I got to like be husband dad mode or whatever and like figure out what we're going to do. You know?

And it made it so much easier. And Braille told me, she's like, I just want to say. stay close to your family. I said, okay, man, now I know where to look. That's sweet. Yeah. And so, um, do your kids sleep in the same bed as you guys? Yeah. No way. Yeah. They have to. We only have one room. There's one bedroom. There's one bedroom. So do you guys go to bed all at the same time and wake up all at the same time? Yeah, I, I don't. But yeah, we typically do, yeah. Like, I'll, pretty much. Yeah, like, I, I'm a big gamer. I'm just gonna say that. Just gonna say that. So, like, I go to bed kind of late and wake up kind of early just so I can, like, have, like,

30 minutes, you know, of like playing something or working or writing or whatever. But no, she, she sleeps in with the kids, you know, but again, she's like nursing all night too. So she's like not even like in a deep sleep most of the time. But, um, but yeah, so I don't really go to bed at the same time as them. I like to stay up and wake up early kind of thing. But for the most part, like, yeah, we all go lay down at the same time. How do you have time for each other when your kids are in your bedroom? they said in the car when they're driving in the car no Matt you're messed up I'm sorry I mean like you're so messed up everybody that would add to I don't know yeah no yeah no you're good uh I don't

I don't know I don't know because she sleeps a lot so I don't know that's a great question I don't know I don't know babe how do we I don't know when they can't sleep obviously I mean I guess if there's a will that has a way I don't know but then again like we grew up with I don't know, always people around, so I don't know. It's not like... I mean, honestly, back in the day, everybody used to live in a tiny home. Yeah. Everyone's house was like 500 square foot. Yeah. 100 years ago. This is true. So we're just doing what our ancestors did.

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How has it been adjusting to two kids? At first, with like a newborn, it wasn't as bad. But as lyrics getting bigger, It's definitely hard because they don't have a lot of room to like play as much. Like they literally have just like one little area. And then also the amount of stuff is just, that's my biggest thing. Breil is a kind of person that she has to have a place for everything. Yeah.

Like every single thing, right? Like I make this joke, but it's not a joke. Bezalia has like five little like barns. They're all different colors and they all have like animals in them. And we have to make sure that every animal goes in the exact. color barn and put them back exactly how they're supposed to be like that's how like she wants everything to be and when you live in a tiny home like and then especially then when you have two kids like when you live in a tiny home she kind of like had her way like you had to have a place for

everything like you couldn't move too much but after having kids I'm like maybe you've got to just there's just not a spot for everything yeah so it's so yeah just getting a little tight and you're building a new house right across the street across the street from the tiny home did you guys just buy that land and it was open No, it was not open. Oh. In that store, we have so many stories. How did you get it then?

So, it wasn't available. I... He said, where there's a will, there's a way. Pretty much. Okay. Pretty much, honestly. So we were actually going to buy a property a couple blocks down. Like...

Two streets over? Yeah, like two or three streets over. A couple blocks down. And... So still wasn't too far. No, it still wasn't too far. You know, it was, it was walkable-ish, you know. But, um, but something to...

didn't feel right about that lot and like that property and we kind of just like I don't know it just it didn't fall through for a reason let's put it like that and um and when I was talking to my mom about you know trying to find property and everything because we decided to build because of what we were telling you guys like how none of the houses that were in the price range we thought was a good like good investment or good idea because we didn't know what underlining conditions they were without like breaking up the walls like all that kind of stuff with with Hurricane Katrina and I'm like we could probably build since we know how to do a lot of it ourselves, we could probably build it for like the same price

of like a brand new house or I mean one of those houses, you know, close to like a brand new house. Like we probably could save like $150,000 like by building it ourselves, right? Yeah. So that's like, that's the route we decided to go. And so anyway, my mom, I was expressing a lot of stuff and I was very stressed out at this point in time

because she was pregnant with our son which we didn't know he was a boy yet. I was still working like a nine to five. And that was, that's a whole story. and I was just, that was a lot on my plate. And so my mom was like, well, what about the one right across the street? I'm like, Ma, I don't know if that's for sale. I was like, I don't even know who owns that.

She goes, well, just hypothetically speaking. Like, why not just, you know, if you could? I was like, I don't know. I said, I don't know. I said, I don't know about that close, you know. Yeah. You got already live in your backyard, you know. And so, um, so I go home and I said, babe, just, just hypothetically speak.

Because I'm already thinking she's going to be like, are you serious, I'm like, I said, close, not that close. I'm thinking she's going to be like, whatever. And so I'm like, babe, just hypothetically speaking, if the property across the street was available, would you want that one? And she goes, oh, yeah, I would rather that one way more than the other lots. And I was like, are you serious right now? And so I was like, okay. And so I figured out who owned it.

I called him and I said, he didn't answer, but I left him a voicemail. And I asked him, like, I'm like, hey, this is the situation. My parents live across the street. We have two kids. Like another one's on the way. We have a kid and another one's on the way. We'd love to build and be close to family. He goes, oh, we'd love to sell it to you.

Let me see how much I have in for, like how much I have in it. And I'll get back with you. I said, okay, cool. And I prayed a prayer. And I said, God, if he comes back with this particular number, I'll know it's from you and I'll buy that and I'll lose my deposit on the other house. Because we were about to sign for the other property. Oh, wow.

What's your deposit? I think it was like five grand or something like that. Like it, you know. And so I was like, I'll lose that. and I'll know this is from you and you know and so literally um and at this time we also thought we were having complications with um our son which we didn't know he was a boy gosh and um and so it was just I was very brielle is like it's like she said she's the normally the anxious one she was so calm and chill about everything with the son like with our our second baby and I was

acting like I was fine because I didn't want to show that my nervous like I was nervous and and stressed out to her because like she's naturally like that. Like I'm supposed to be like this stable like positive go lucky kind of guy, right? So it's like I didn't want to do that. But it got so bad that my hands started like breaking out like bumps and I didn't know why. Like they would like anything I touch like hurt and suck because like I work on keyboard and mouse. It was like so painful.

And when you look it up like it's a real thing, it's called stress bumps like your body's releasing it because you're not. So like because I wasn't like verbally or anything like expressing like what was it was my body was figuring out a way to get out the stress. And I was like, this is crazy. I'm like, I don't even want to believe in stress, but obviously it's real. And so just had all those, like, you know, all those terms and all this thing that you don't want to hear about your baby, you know. And so anyway, so that I'm trying to figure out where we're going to live, trying to figure out what to do with work, you know, all this kind of stuff.

And so after my mom says that, I tell Braille, I reach out to him, the guy who owns the property. And I pray that prayer. I'm like, Lord, like if it's this number, I know it's from you. And so I'm driving to work, you know, crying still, whatever. And then it's like around lunchtime at work. And Brow was like, the test results are in for our baby. Like, can you go look at him in the car? You know, I'm like, okay. So I go in the car, you know, and open a test results,

and it says he's perfectly healthy and he's a boy. I'm like, oh my gosh. And so I'm crying. I'm thanking God, you know. And then I go home, like, and I put the little box together or whatever. And I surprise Brale and Zally and I say, this is what we're having, you know. and tell Rea that we're having a boy and tell Zalia that she's having a little brother

and she's like, no, I want it to be a sister and I said, it's a brother. And so as soon as I showed them that was a boy, I walked into our bedroom, which is again, it's only like three feet away. That took one step. Yeah, legit.

And I pull up my phone and it's a text message from the guy and he said with this number of working it was the exact number I asked God for. And I was like, I fell to my knees like crying, laughing, and I was like, what, what? And I'm just like,

You're not going to believe it. And she's like, he said the number. He said the number. I was like, yes. And she's like, you know, we're crying or whatever. And, yeah, so we got the lot across the street. And now we're building. Wow.

Living so close to family. It seems like you're like fully on board. You like love this too. Is there ever a time where you're like, okay, we need to set up some boundaries. Oh, yeah. Do you have boundaries with your family? Oh, yeah. What does that look like?

That's like the hardest thing to do. Yeah. Especially because I grew up home. homeschooled, well not even homeschooled. I grew up unschooled, okay? What does that mean? It means like we don't follow a curriculum. Like my mom, like whatever our interest was, my mom like went full force with that. So like me, I love dance. Like I went full force dance like or I love space. So like she's like all these space books and all this kind of stuff. Like you know, whatever we were super into, she like went full force. You know, my brother loves

animals. A lady was talking to me about unschooling in a coffee shop here. People out here to it too. Yeah. It's becoming more and more common like Billy Eilish and Phineas. Like they were They grew up this. They were unschooled. They grew up the exact same way. I didn't know either. My sister was like a huge fan of her. So like she was telling me and she's like, dude, she was like raised like us.

I was like that's pretty sick. Do you guys wear deodorant? And yes. Okay. Where does that question? Isn't that like a crunchy thing? Is it like unschooling a crunchy thing? I don't know.

I feel like crunchy people don't like deodorant because of all the. I love that. He didn't even question. He was like yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You knew because you knew. Like I'm like I'm sorry, Matt.

Like bro. I know it's hot in Arizona. I'm like like dude it's hard dude I was trying to be rude I just wanted to know I think it's how crotch here we're talking did you like growing up unschooled I loved it looking back I absolutely love it and like we want to do it with our kids I think we're gonna have a little bit more structure to it like I think um because growing up like I was super insecure about I still kind of am a little bit but like writing in front of people like doing math in front of people six times nine don't be doing this I'm sorry six times 63 right 54

Shoot! Wait, which one's 63? Oh, frick, this is so bad. I used to have all these seven times nine. Oh, that's so bad. I need to go back to I need, oh my goodness, and I went to school. Yeah, and that's what I'm learning is that just because you how you grew up doesn't necessarily mean anything. No, no, no, at all. I think it matters who you are and what you bring to this world, you know, at the end of the day. But, but yeah, so I loved looking back, I absolutely loved it. I think it allowed me to figure out what I wanted to do and who I am. at an earlier age. That's cool. You know, when I was in it, I remember wanting to go to high school because I watch high school musical and like all the kind of stuff. I'm like, oh, this is what high school is. And I wanted to do that so bad.

And, you know, I had friends in high school and stuff like that. Like, oh, my best friend, the same one that helped me, you know, get with Briel by driving us to the movies was she decided to do that. She decided to go to high school because she was unschooled until high school. And she went. And so I went to prom with her and like everything like that. and um and i'm like yeah i don't care to do this i do not like it was not my thing i was like i'm very grateful for you know um that my mom and dad chose to do that with me yeah uh and my siblings

what's funny is the lady at the coffee shop that was like trying to tell me about unschooling her daughter's interest was youtube and so that's why she was like approaching me and because she knew you were a YouTuber i guess yeah and i was like i'm so sorry i'm not the person to ask but I was like I can put you contact with my husband Wait, were you home school? No, you just didn't go to school No, yeah

He went to private school, I went to public school And yeah, I did both Cool, so But that's really me, I didn't know that Yeah, yeah, how did we get here What we're talking about? Oh, boundaries with family Yes, boundaries with family

Okay Because you're like my family, we spend a lot of time Yes, that's what I'm gathering Yeah, so you guys used to not have boundaries But then you had to bring in boundaries Yes, and that were in family That was very difficult I think we're still probably doing that

Yes, because if you think about it, I mean, a kid going to school, or they're gone hours of the day, he was with his mom specifically and his siblings constantly. Like, they didn't have any time away except for when you went to dance. I loved going to dance. So when I went into the family, it was like, yeah, everybody was very, in your business. Yeah, and that's just how it was. Even like grandparents and aunt don't, like, we're just, we come together like every Saturday. pretty much, like just to hang out. Like, that's just how we are.

Yeah. And so, yeah, setting those boundaries was super difficult. It was a lot of hard conversations, a lot of, like, you know, and I think we still have to set some, like, as we're learning, as we're growing, you know? Probably as you have kids, too. It changes things. That's when I think we really set those boundaries was when we had kids. You know, the boundaries weren't, I don't say they weren't there,

but, like, I think they weren't as there until we had kids. Yeah. Okay. It was easier to set those boundaries once we had kids. just because, you know, they understand like, okay, you know, we raised, like, y'all, like, y'all talking about me and, like, my siblings differently than how my parents raised us. So, like, we'll respect, you know, how you guys are raising, you know, want to decide to raise your kids, you know. What's an example of one of those boundaries?

Yeah, a silly one. I'm trying to think. What's a thing? Yeah, tell us the silly one. A silly one is when we tell her daughter, no, you can't get on the table. And my mom's like, yeah, yeah, you can get on my table. And she, like, puts her on the table to, like, dance or whatever she does, you know? Like, that's, like, a really silly, like, like, dumb one.

but like we didn't want our daughter to like then go to restaurants and like think she can get on a table, which that kind of wind up happening, you know. So that's kind of like, that's a silly boundary, but like that's kind of one of them. You know, I mean, they're pretty good. They don't like come over to a tiny home like ever. Like we go over there. I think it's mainly just like maybe ways that they would talk. Yeah.

In front of other family members or maybe to them like we didn't want that. So we kind of had to set that boundary. Yeah. Like maybe like my mom is. is a mom to all. She's, you know, and so, like, maybe, like, her kind of talking to our kids if she's the mom, maybe, maybe that's a decent one, you know? But I think we're still learning.

Yeah. For sure. That's definitely, like, I feel like it changes, too. Yeah. And especially as your kids get older and you add to your family. Oh, yeah. I mean, you were saying how you can't wait to be a grandma. Like, can you imagine, like, the boys, like, saying mom, no, that's not, you know,

like, putting that boundary there, you're like, wait. preparing my heart. Yeah. You know? So, you know, I can only also imagine from their, their point of view, too, you know. It's so sweet that your family is, like, so involved. Like, it seems like with every step of your journey, it's like, I consulted my mom, I consulted my dad.

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Please support our show and tell them unplanned sent you. Yeah, so we put up a poll on the unplanned podcast, Instagram. Okay. And you guys ask some questions for, yeah, for Breel and Carson. So we're going to answer those right now. First one is from Elise. She said, what's one thing you hope your kids remember about their childhood? That they were loved.

Yeah. I hope that they feel like when they look back that we did everything to give them the best childhood and that we were intentional with it. Next one is from Madeline. She said, how sad are you that crawfish season has come to an end? Brielle's very sad about it. Yeah, me more than Carson. Okay, they're called mudbugs and like sometimes some seasons will pass and like I don't

even eat them because the thought of like how nasty they are grosses me out. Why are they nasty? They're like the cockroaches of the river. Really? Yeah. What do they eat? Dirt. Like just like junk like like literally like like I

Okay I'm gonna like I don't even care I'm gonna like roast myself I take the poo off of the cross fish I saw you do that in the video I don't I don't I just don't like a poop line in it and yeah Most people don't they just care they just eat it can eat the poop yeah yeah it's fine why are people eating poop Most people are fine I guess because it's cook is there a health risk there if you boil it I just think about shrimp I feel like you're eating it in shrimp too yeah yeah exactly You've definitely eaten shrimp poop before? Yes, you've eaten shrimp poop.

I feel like, it's their intestines. It's their, yeah. It's just, it's probably their large intestines. They taste so good, though. But like, it's kind of like, I don't want to say offensive, but kind of, to, like, a person that lives in Louisiana if you take the poo out. Right, that's why I said, I'm going to like. Yeah, like, if you live in Louisiana, you should not be taking that out. Or if you peel coffee with the gloves.

It's like, bro, really? Oh, gloves. They just hate knowing me for that. But we don't care. We have small children. We need to wear gloves. Yeah, because I still nursed my son and I didn't. Because like most of the time crawfish is spicy.

It's spicy. So I didn't want to. The smell stained your hands so bad. Yeah, like you'll have crawfish hands for like days. So we'll look like a tourist if we were gloves. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean I did it just because I wasn't trying to touch my son with spicy hands. Is that why Zalia doesn't eat it and she just wants to peel it?

Yeah, my dad does try to make her like more than not spicy. But I think she just enjoys like peeling it more than eating it. And she'll like try it. She'll try and she'll pretend to eat it, but she's not a big, yeah. But yes, she does not like anything that's remotely spicy, so that's a big reason. I'm not going to lie. I thought you guys were bringing us crawfish. And so I was, I was, like, excited and surprised when you brought us the cake.

Because you said that you wanted to bring us some food. Yeah. I'm like, I don't know what this is, but I'd seen the crawfish videos. But, yeah, I think that's dope though. I'm excited to find baby Jesus in that cake. We need to find Jesus. Yeah. We need to find Jesus.

in that cake. Dude, that's funny. You want to ask the next one? Yes. It says, what made you start dancing? This one's from Rye, bye,

bye bye, bye. I started dancing, well, we both started dancing because of Michael Jackson. We didn't know who he was. I didn't know the tie-in for Michael Jackson still.

So, like, when he passed away, when he passed away 17 years ago, like, we did not know who he was at all. Like, we were,

like, I didn't even, like, no, like, had no clue. Neither did she. And so when our parents were like sobbing because this man died. It was just on the news. Like Michael Jackson died and both of our parents are freaking out. They're like, freaking out. We're like, what the heck? And then like, who is? And they're like,

you don't know Michael Jackson? And we're like, no, like you didn't show me. So like, they showed us the videos and I was like, the tie in is that he would have, I would have never found it. He would have never found his love for dance if it wasn't for that. And then so we say that we're like, Dang, like Michael Jackson brought us together. Yeah, because if he would have never seen that, he would have never been like, okay, I want to try dance. And then I would have never seen him at the recital. Right.

That's kind of so we, that's what it was. Yeah. Next, we have this question from Rithing, Rithing. Rithing. Rithing, too. She said, are you wanting more kids? Yes. Yeah.

At least one more. We say at least three. At most five. But then again, we don't know. Maybe we get to five and we're like, let's do five more. I don't know. I don't know about that one. Oh, goodness.

Yes, at least one more, though. At least one more, yeah. I'm going to put this out there now. I really think our next one's going to be a girl. I don't know why. You have, like, the strongest feeling is going to be a girl. I know I would have a girl first, and I think I'm going to have a girl again. But if I'm not, it's okay.

I'm super happy with either. I just really feel it. I don't know why. If he's, he's only 10 months old now, but from now, I'm just so curious having one of each because we only have boys. Like, is it pretty different already, or you think so? everybody would always be like oh that's a boy and like we didn't understand that because like no offense but like he he's not really like that like growing up like he wasn't like boy like crazy wild like little boy so like

and i feel like your siblings weren't really either but like the feelings also are different already my daughter's very like she has big feelings and it's like everything is kind of just like huge for her and it's in a different, I mean, yeah. I'm just picturing her face in the video where she's like, I know, and people put that in our comments all the time. It's just that one thing. Yeah, it's a great shot of that. Yeah, she just feels really big, and you can already tell that lyrics,

just like, he's silly, and he's, like, funny, and he's more just like. He's so chill. Yeah, he's chill. And she's just, yeah, it's different. Okay, last user submitted a question says, Rochelle, what does this one mean? Uh, it is, oh, it's, it's what Zalia says. The, it's so numby question mark.

So, no. So, um, so cute. It was so good. It was so nummy. Oh, what, no, no, no, no, no, no, oh, that was, it, was the cake so numby? So, nomy. Oh, we did. We missed that.

We should have said so numbs. We got, oh, dang it. Missed opportunities. You guys start talking, like, how your kids do. Oh, my gosh. Matt was just saying that, he's like, Abby, like, they're not, we went on a date last night, like, kid free date. for the first time and I was like still quote like oh yeah oh yeah she always does that she always says words

the way that our kids say the word oh yeah it's you don't not as much yeah I'm like get with the slang in this household she did that even when she'd babysit she would quote the kids she'd babysit but last night she said I can't even say it right it's just Abby said the word guel I think that's how our kids say girl it's instead of like girl it sounds like squirrel You're cousins do that. They say, Girl.

Gayo. Yeah. Besides Nummy, what's your favorite thing that Zalia says? Ruffish. Ruffish. Or, um. So she says, um, not anymore, unfortunately, but she would say bajas. Yeah.

I hate it. But for strawberries, she would say bajas and we don't know like where it came up. Bajas? For strawberries. Everybody thinks that that's like, because I think it's like, because I think it's, It's, what is it in Spanish? Bahaz or something like that? I don't remember.

I'm butchering it. Anyway, people will comment us and say, like maybe she's saying in Spanish. She just secretly knows it. Yeah. Which is my grandpa, he speaks Spanish. So maybe he did tell her that one day and it just stuck.

I have no idea. Oh, I know my favorite. Ush? No. You like that one. I do. She says Kevin for heaven. Yes.

So like, she'll be like, she goes, where's Jesus? And we're like in heaven. And she was like, I want to go to Kevin. It's so cute. We just let her. I don't even want to correct that right now.

Can she say her name like the way that her name is said now? Because I noticed she didn't really say her name. She says Zazas. She says Zazas. Yeah. Zazes. Yeah. Zazes. It's like plural.

I don't know why she like. Always says birth. I don't know why. That's cute. Do people say she looks like one of the other more? I do feel like she. She looks like. She does.

Definitely. Does your son do you think? I think he's a good mix of both of us. I think he's a mix. But yeah, she is like a spitting image of me. It's kind of scary. Yeah, if you saw his kid pictures, it's kind of creepy. Our youngest couldn't say our oldest name for a while, so he would call him Fiffin.

Fiffin. Aww, that's so cute. He's the one who picked out his nickname too, Griffey. Yeah. He just randomly started calling our son Griffin Griffey and so that's his name. That's so cute. Okay. Now we have a good. agree to disagree.

We need to do these fast. We have so many today. Okay. We don't have to do all of my. I think we should do the best. Yes. I was excited. The top agree to disagree ones.

You pick, you head it up. My brain doesn't work. The first one for agree to disagree. And this will be you guys saying I'll give you a countdown and I'll say three, two, one. And then you can say agree or disagree. Okay. I actually don't know what you're going to say to this based off of our conversation, even though we talked about it a lot.

Question number one. Couples should live together before getting married. Three, two, one. Agree. Agree! No way! I think so, yeah. Yeah.

I think there is a very special thing about kind of growing up together. Yeah. And I feel like you see just different sides, obviously, when it's constantly together. And I think that, I think we grew a lot and we had to have hard conversations because of that. I don't know what to add on that because now my brain's thinking about it. I'm like, well, maybe not some people. Okay. But.

I'm just going to overthink this right now. Yeah. Okay. Now for a follow-up one, agree to disagree. Couples should wait until marriage. Three, two, one. I agree. Because I feel like that's like, that's something unique about you guys.

I feel like most people's answers would be consistent for those two. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. What's your take? Like that. There was something more special about waiting, I think. And I think, like Braille is my first in, like,

Like she's my has been my only girlfriend like only wife you know and so I think there's something special that you're the only person that will ever get to know me fully and I have that connection with you know and there's something really special about that and I think you know marriage is literally this like it's like a ritual thing anyway you know like you get married and like you have all these things you're supposed to do like the candle or you know whatever it may be that you do And it's like that's a part of it too You know so I don't know I think it was just

I don't know What did you mean by like the candle? Oh sorry You like the union candle Oh yeah yeah yeah Well some people do like the sand or the candle Some people do like sand Some people do like everyone had different

Some people braid something Yeah they're not right You change rings That's a ritual I just know if you guys like really into candles Or something So okay I mean we do

Yeah no Agree to disagree Carson wears the pants In the household Three two one I don't know. I think I always just say we're in. You have to say agree to disagree.

She's like playing the game. One degree. I don't know. That was like a mix between both. I think we both definitely share a leg. There's two pants and a leg. I feel like I have to say agree only because you. She said agree, guys.

I can say agree. You're very like. I think I'm just, I have. He makes the decisions. Braille's personality is just like, I trust you, babe. Like, well, she doesn't say, babe, I wish you did. But anyway, I trust you. I trust you, whatever you think.

Like, go for it. And I'll support you wherever. I don't want to make the decisions, but Matt is the most indecisive person in the world. So I feel like I've been forced my leg has been forced into the pants. And I'm like, I don't want more than this. Well, I feel like, when you, whenever you, whenever he struggles, I'm like, okay, I'll do it. And then like vice versa. Right.

And I just think that like naturally he has more of this like leader personality and he he likes to do that like with anyone in his life. So that's the only reason I'll say that. Okay. So I guess our answer is agree guys. Okay. That's good one. Okay. Agree to disagree.

Everyone needs to experience living in a tiny home. Three, two, one. Disagree. Oh. Really? It's so cool though. It's really cool, but I don't think that everyone needs to experience it. Okay, the reason why I say agree, because it makes you appreciate the little things.

But also when you get into a big space, it's going to make you utilize every single space and or more appreciative of how much space you have. Is this new house going to be like 10,000 square feet? No. What is it? Liveable square footage is 2,200. Okay. Oh, man.

Yeah. That's a quadrupling. Exactly. Brail's like, I don't feel like this is that big. I said, babe, it's four tiny homes. It's four times. When you just see the slap because right now all we have is litter

the concrete slab It looks small It looks tiny I'm like This is how is this gonna be this How is it two stories? Yeah it's two stories Okay

Technically they call it one and a half Because it's gonna be two bedrooms And a bathroom upstairs But yes it's two store Okay You know a lot more about building houses than we do I can't believe you're building your own house

I'm so dude When people say they're building a house They usually mean that they're having builders Yeah No like I want to be out there Like running wire Like I would love to I don't think I can legally like do the roof like the shingles and everything But like I would love to that was like one of the most relaxing parts of doing the tiny home was like putting the roof on the tiny home for me

I don't know why what are the parts you like can't do like electrical right? Oh we can because my like my uncle they did electrical in His parents house because it got damaged yeah my uncle is like a licensed electrician so he just he just comes and he kind of tells us like how to do it and he checks everything like you know so yeah like we were able to do it ourselves pretty much everything but the roof then or foundation yeah yeah the foundation we had to pay somebody for not for the tiny home we did ourselves braille did a phenomenal job with that great job um but uh and plumbing we don't we don't really touch plumbing that much but electrical i i i love i'm a nerd a little bit i love electrical stuff like building computers like yeah yeah that is such a good skill to have yeah i love yeah okay okay agree to disagree having kids made us lose part of ourselves

That's a deep one. Two. Okay, I'll give you guys a second. Let me know when you're ready. I'm ready. Three, two, one. Disagree. Disagree.

Yeah, I don't think so. Do you feel more fulfilled or? I always knew I wanted this in life. And I would have people ask me like, how do you know she's the one? How do you this, that, and the other? How do you know you want to have kids? And I'm like, there's something about, you know, I think it had a lot to do with obviously my family, like growing up in a big family.

but I always knew I wanted to have kids as young as I could to have the most amount of my life with them. And I've always wanted to be a dad first, you know, and a husband and then an entertainer after probably. It's the only thing that I ever wanted to do in life was to be a mom. Like she is, yeah, that's all, that's, you know, if you at, yeah, at five-year-old braille, nine-year-old, whatever, what do you want to be? And she said, oh, you know, a mom and a wife. And so I think in ways. is it brought out things in me that I couldn't see. Next up is, it's okay to clap when the plane lands.

Agree to disagree. Just to switch gears for a second. Three, two, one. Agree. Why not? Why not do that? Why do people not like that? I mean.

I don't think I've actually ever done it, but I think it's funny when people do. Yeah. Like, especially when it's like, oh, our plane trip back from Disney, was it was actually like one of the worst experiences. We know why Spirit close. Yeah, which early you guys five? We know why Spirit. And it was just like a really bad travel day.

And so it was like, yeah, as soon as that plan landed, I mean, I can't. Oh, everybody was clapping. Oh, yeah. Like, get us off. When we landed in Arizona after we traveling with that king cake, two kids, two giant car seats, a mom and a sister and 10 bags. Oh, I was clapping. I was clapping.

Well, you're telling me, though, when you guys flew Spirit Airlines, they clapped when the plane landed. Oh, yeah. Everyone did. Oh, yeah. They just were happy to be alive. Yeah, they were happy. Happy to be alive.

Oh, my gosh. Hey, we've flown, Spirit. No, probably because we're all literally drenched in sweat. Speaking of Spirit Airlines, you guys, we moved to Arizona flying Spirit Airlines. Oh, really?

Yes. Everything that we took with us was on that. Yes, and the rest was, like, in a U-Haul that got, like, one of those, like, little box pods. Yeah. We got it, like, shipped in a box.

Because we, like, temporarily lived to my parents. That just had a, wedding gifts essentially in it. Yeah, and then we flew out here through spirit. So, RIP spirit. RIP spirit. Thank you for your service. Soulmates are real. Agree to disagree. Three, two, one. I agree. I agree. I'm not going to count in death. Agree. You guys think you're each other's soulmates. Oh, 100%. I can't wait to find her in the next life already. Like 100%. Yeah. What if, like, she's a tree though? Like, how would that work out? You know, it depends what I was. If I'm a squirrel,

I'm living in that tree. I'm being shoes. I'm so serious I'm so serious I want to make a really bad joke anyway I'm not I'm not oh gosh

okay I want you so bad stop okay sorry agree to disagree it's a waste of time to make your bed every day agree to disagree

three two one agree do you guys you guys don't make your bed I'm surprised looking at a tiny home I feel like

no I do sometimes I just like when you actually really think about it it is it's what's the point I mean if we're making a video in the bedroom we'll make it yeah that's true where people are coming over yeah no we don't I mean in this point in this we really tried actually when we lived in a studio apartment we did make our bed every day because we had to tuck it up against the wall okay well we think we did that that makes sense we did too a little bit for that

maybe I don't know maybe not actually when you can't just shut the door to your bedroom so people can't see you have to but now we have that people say like it's a good way to start your day because it makes you like you start what I do agree with that I mean I switched it to emptying out the dishwasher yeah there you go that's how more functional useful yeah agree to disagree the second child is easier than the first three two one I think disagree yeah I think disagree oh so the second was harder I think for us it was transition not just like not necessarily him like that child but like Like, right.

The transition was harder. Zalia was like the easiest baby ever. I mean, she slept through the night at a week old. Oh my goodness. And still. Yeah. And, yeah, I think it was just, it's a lot more than we thought it would be dealing with the both of them. Yeah.

Like, he's the chillest baby ever. They're so chill. Like, he's a good baby. But like he wakes up throughout the middle of the night. he just has yeah there's different things but it's really just like dealing with both of them yeah together all at the same time and then with each other and then also working from home like it's yeah it gets a lot more there's more variables exactly i meant to ask you being pregnant twice but also you said that you've experienced health anxiety was pregnancy like a trip then and then birth yeah it's weird

because whenever i was pregnant with zalia i that was obviously i didn't know what to do i mean we've seen the test and I was like, I have to go to the doctor. And we have like a family, um, friend, nurse practitioner. And I just like, texted her. And I was like, what do I do? And she was like, you need to go get an ultrasound. I was like, okay. And it was just that's, it was so weird. I remember feeling like so anxious, but then what? For the second one, I feel like, I don't make you cut you off, but just to add to what you were saying, I feel like for the second one, she wasn't as anxious and there was so much more reason to be. Yeah. It's just I'd never done it before, but I think that what calmed me in that was knowing that so many people do that. And I had so, like his family, like I think that growing up my, like I said, my mom had a lot of medical issues. So it made me view anything like that, doctors, hospitals as like a really bad thing because like all I seen was bad things with it. And I think that that was the only, you know, that was the only thing. And I think that that was the only,

thing that felt good because I was pregnant. You know, like we were going to have a baby and it made me kind of like flip that and be like, oh, okay, like good things come out of going to the doctor, you know? Because like growing up, like I, my parents didn't even take me to like checkups. Like I didn't have that just normal doctor life. But yeah, the second pregnancy was more towards end. I was way more anxious than the first. Why do you think that was? So I hemorrhage with my daughter after birth and I didn't even know that was a thing that could happen. So it kind of threw me for a loop. But it got kind of, they fixed it very quickly. I just had like the shot in my leg. They didn't have to do, I think they only did one to stop the bleeding, right? Was that? One shot. Yeah. So they figured it out and it ended up being fine.

but I think that I was very nervous it was going to happen again because I learned more about it and I had um I was anemic during um the pregnancy yes with Zalia and we found out like I think it was like 22 weeks so I started taking iron and then like I remember asking my doctor I'm like is that why and she's like we don't really know exactly why but like that could go in hand with like why women hemorrhage and for Lyrk they didn't test my iron until I was like 20 no you're just your diabetes test yeah 30 something weeks no I literally was 35 weeks and she tells me I'm anemic and I was like I knew that from the first pregnancy so she made sure to get like vitamins with iron in it and like kind of already start that I was trying to like prepare more and they didn't test me until later

and so I was like great so I started taking the iron pearls and come to find out it takes like two to three weeks to actually absorb in your body and so I was just I don't know I just felt it I felt very anxious the whole end of it and then uh the birth yeah the birth experience for a lyric was a it was a rough birth it was um it was the most scariest thing I think I've ever seen in my life oh goodness he wouldn't tell me that though until what happened so she wound up hemorrhaging and they said that and I was like um and Her doctor wasn't there. They had like a resident.

Literally both times I gave birth was at the same time. It was literally around 2 a.m. And my doctor just like wasn't at the hospital. And so that obviously causes like anxiety. You know, what? A couple minutes right before. She didn't, yeah, she didn't deliver Zalya, but she was in the room. But she was there.

So she knew all the history and everything. And she gave her shot. Her doctor wasn't even there at all this time. And I watched him give Briel a shot. But I remember vividly like from Zalia's like, the shot was huge for Zalia that they gave her. And this one was like a little bitty thing. And so next thing you know, you know, she gets the epidural out, like all this kind of stuff.

Well, I remember sitting there whenever my son was like on my chest and I remember all of a sudden I got this wave of like my, like the inside of my body felt cold. And like I was like, okay, I'm tired. Like I've literally been up for like 24 hours. Like I just gave birth. Like I'm tired. So I didn't say anything. And I just laid there.

I'm tired. You hold him. and then you're holding him and they come in and they're like... I'm holding my son for the first time. Yeah. And they come in and they say, okay, like we're about to move you to a room, but you had to go try to use the bathroom first or whatever. And she's like, they like, you think you can stand up. You're good. And Braille's like, I mean, I guess so. They're like, I mean, are you okay? And she's like, I guess, yeah, I mean, I'm tired.

Like, I just had a child. Just pushed out, you know. And so they start walking her to the bathroom and I'm still holding my son. Like, I'm thinking like, they're fine. And I just hear them say, oh my God, call. I don't remember what they call said, to be honest. They were like, call so and so, whatever. And it's like, what? Like, what's happening with my wife? Like, in the bat?

Like, what the freak? And so I'm like, was my sister there still? Yeah, yeah. So I just gave my son a lyric to my sister. And I was like here. And like, I go in the bathroom and I just... Do I do what you did? Yeah, I don't care.

Okay. I just seen my wife like this. Passed out on the toilet. Right. I didn't know my eyes were open. And it was the scariest thing. And I'm just like... And I'm just like, and I'm just like, and I'm just like, and I'm staying calm.

Because I'm like, if this was to happen, she's in the best place. I'm like, I'm like, it's okay, you're okay, you know, she's out, like, she's out of it. And, um, and then they like, they're getting alcohol and like they're, whatever. And like the nurse is freaking out. The other one ran out the room to go get somebody, whatever. They brought the anesthesiologists back in. Yes. And the anesthesia, you could tell that she was a little upset.

And she gave her some kind of shot, whatever. And then she brook came to and she's like, and this is how amazing braille is. The first thing she says when she wakes up, she goes, I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to or whatever. I thought I fell asleep. Yeah. Well, I swear. I thought, I was, they were trying to.

They were trying to get me to pee out to that peddural. I thought I just fell asleep on them. So, like, I guess I woke up and I thought like, dang, I really just fell asleep. I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to do that. But I woke up to them, like, the alcohol in my nose. And then I remember, I said, I'm sorry. And they're like, no, you're okay.

You're okay. And then I was like, how long was I out? And they were like, just a minute, just a minute. And then I just remember the nurse on my right was asking the nurse on my left if she was okay. Yeah. And I was like. Because like she was freaking out. And then I look up and I see him kind of looking through the door.

and then I see the anesthesiologist and she's like yeah her face is literally white white. She's like, her face is white as that wall like I don't know why y'all would put her to like bring into the bathroom right now. They ended up having to give me a blood transfusion and she lost a whole bag of blood. A leader. A leader of blood. So

I'm glad that you are here and breathing and everything works out. Yeah. Me too. And that you have your babies. Yes. Oh my gosh. It sounds like a terrifying experience ago. Hey but you're like more babies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she said she said definitely wait

She's like, she's like, Carson, can we wait till he's at least three this time? Not two and a half Because I made jokes the whole time he's like, yeah, ready for another And I'm like, you're gonna have to give me a moment Yeah, like she's like, Lyric wasn't even here yet and I'm like, I'm already ready to come back And she's like, Carson, he's still on my stomach, stop And I was like, I was in labor, he kept saying that I know we got a TikTok dance again, so yeah, let me wrap it up two more

And then I think Carson that might be dancing. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So I don't know. I look you wanted to have a turn competition with you. No way? Wait, we should totally do that.

Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Okay. Next we have agree to disagree. We got married too young. Three, two, one. Disagree.

I wanted to get married younger. Really? Yes. He wanted to get married. He wanted to have kids and then get married. I did, actually. No way. I did.

I did. But that kind of goes back to wait to marriage, though, if you think about it. I know. Yeah. That wouldn't make sense. But yeah. No, okay. Okay.

In my ideal head, like growing up, I thought, okay, I would, I'm going to get with, you know, Brielle, we're going to have a house or apartment or whatever. We're going to have a daughter first. I swear, like, this is like all in my head of, like, what I envisioned for whatever reason. Then we'll get married and our little daughter would be like the little flower girl. That's what I always thought. Why did you think of having kids before getting married? Was there somebody that, like, modeled that for you?

Or did you just like the idea of having your daughter be a flower girl at the wedding? No. I don't know. I think I was more so ready to be a, like, or wanted to be a dad than like a husband. Like a husband kind of to me was just like a title, I guess. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know.

That's a good question. Like, I kind of forgot. I mean, yeah, you don't really, I feel like that anymore. No, yeah, not anymore. But I did say that at one point. Yeah, I didn't want to have kids first. That's really funny. I guess all, but to be fair, to be fair, I did not know how kids were made at for a very long time.

Oh, my mom told me that like, literally up until I was like, like, oh God, I was old. I was like 14, probably, 15. You didn't know until, no, no, no. Literally my mom just said, oh, you just pray for a baby. And I was like, okay. And in my head, logically, I'm like, I'm like, why do I have all these feelings, mom? Yeah. No, I was like, logically, I'm trying to think. I'm like, okay, so maybe when like people kiss, like the spit accidentally gets in like each other's mouth and like that's how it works. I swear, that's really like what my brain thought. And then you just pray to God and okay then then she gets pregnant that's i like literally thought that um it's whoever gets the baby jesus

yes exactly actually that's what it is yeah whoever gets a baby yeah um yeah so i don't know that's hilarious that is really yeah and last one wait i literally it was in my head oh yes i i'm i just made this one up love it love it this is just for fun there we go agree to disagree everyone needs to experience a louisiana marty grow three two one three two one disagree no I mean I think you should experience the season I think everybody should come down it's an I think everybody should experience a crawfish boy I think everybody should experience New Orleans though as well okay it is a such a cool vibe there it's so unique you know um we were actually having a talk like on a drive over when you look like at Arizona like everything's of similar color like even the buildings like they're kind of like that brown kind of like you know yeah it looks nice like it's cool to us mud You know, that mud color, yeah. It's a lot of sand in dirt. Yeah.

And New Orleans, it's the complete opposite. It's bright colors everywhere. Like houses are painted pink, green. Like, you name it, there's a house somewhere. That's fun. Pink houses, that's so good. Yeah. Yeah.

Like, it's a fun little thing. Like my daughter, like, we have like a little like e-bike and she's like, I want to go look at pink houses. And I'm like, okay, cool. We just like drive around like there's pink houses. We would be driving a long time here. Yeah. Benets.

When I think of New Orleans, I think of Ben-Jays. Do you guys eat those a lot? Dude, yeah, my mom makes amazing Benyines. Wait, have you had the Disney ones? The Disney Benignes? Yes. How do they compare? They're good.

They're good, but they're not. They're not, yeah. You're not, okay. I need to go. No. I love Benis. We still, we stay until Saturday. Maybe we can, like, figure out of make some Benignets.

Your mom, your mom makes them? Yeah. Does she fry them? Yeah. I don't know why frying feels so scary to me. Really? Yeah. I'm afraid.

I think in the South you fry like everything. Really? Oh, yeah. I mean, not saying we eat fried all the time because we're not endorsing that. I know it's not good for you. But like, but like. You know, yeah. That's how you know she's a good cook.

She knows how to fry, some bignets. Oh, yeah. No, yeah. She can cook anything. I'm like, I'm like, ma, when we make it even bigger, like, we're just, we're hiring you're the personal chef. Like, just like, you know. That's sweet. Well, Carson, Brielle, thank you so much for coming on the show.

Of course. Thanks for having us. What's the best place for people to connect with you guys? We're everywhere. We're TikTok, Instagram, YouTube. We're the Matranga family on YouTube. We have a person. personal accounts. Mine is Creator 3 underscores. What is yours? Breaum Matranga. She's

Instagram and TikTok. Yeah and same thing for me Instagram and TikTok. Just Carson Matranga, or Creator three underscores. That's dope. But yeah. So what you got. I love that you guys, just talking to you guys, I feel like you guys are just ride or die for each other. Like, I love it so much. Just, you make me just, I don't know what I'm trying to say. I just feel like you guys are such a good team. And it's really cool getting it. talk to you guys and inspires me. Hopefully we can get our kids together. I think that would be really fun.

I think that would so fun. Awesome. Well, thanks for talking with us. This was really great. Yes, this was awesome. Thank you guys. Thank you guys. This is awesome.

Our first official podcast. Let's go. Yeah. Can we clap? Wait, can we clap at an end of a podcast? Yes. Okay. Yeah,

All right.