The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Who Knows Who Better: Husband vs. Wife

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

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What's my favorite quality about you? My butt is what you've told me in the past. What have I ever said? That's your favorite quality of yourself. No, that's not true. What is my red flag? I can't think of single one. I said I'm a hot head.

I was going to say that. I was going to say that. Totally was going to say that. Zero points still for Matt. What's one thing I wish you did more of? What I wrote down. Ding, ding, ding. Welcome back, people.

It's so awkward today. Is it because your outfit doesn't match? Guys, it just came to my attention that my outfit does not match. I'm wearing blue shorts with this. What is this called? It's not like they don't match, but like this is just such a wintry top with such summery shorts as a bold color combo. But I think you did. Did you intentionally match me? You know, I really dropped the drop the ball today. I actually like hired a stylist to help me figure out clothing and like how to how to dress myself. and I should have just picked out something that she picked out. This is like, this is, I think this is old stuff that I mix and matched. The fact that you just said, I hired a stylist. It's so loud touching crazy.

When you did that, I was really like, what? He's going through an identity crisis for sure. Well, we got invited to the I Heart Radio Music Awards and I was like, I don't want to look like a bozo. Did you wear something she picked out? Yeah, for that I did. Yeah. Okay, good. She picked out my outfit for that award show.

Good. Anyway. Guys, welcome back. Today we're going to be seeing who knows who better. Yeah, it's just meeting you again. Yeah, place your bets right now. Yeah, place your bets. Who do you guys think knows the other person? What do you think, Matt? I think you know me more. Yeah, for sure. I think you know me better. For sure. But we'll see. We've got our sister-in-law, Adi. I literally dedicate my entire life to studying you and being an expert on Matt Howard. Well, we have our sister-in-law to literally take tallies today on who gets the majority of these questions right. We've got like almost 100 questions to go through. say that the only way I'm going to lose this is if you don't know yourself well enough. That's literally the only way that I'm going to lose this.

And I guarantee I'll be like, hey, no, this is actually the case where you can be like, oh, yeah, you're right. We shall see. It's going to be crazy. Okay, guys. Well, we're going to get into it. Should we give a little life update? Tell people about what's been going on in our life.

Sure. We just did the most. What is going on? We just went to the most magical place on earth. Disneyland. No, I think Disneyland is the happiest place on Earth. That's right. Disney World is the most magical place on Earth.

We went to the happiest place on Earth. I'm already planning our next Disney trip and then our next Disney trip. Babe, I don't know how to tell you this. I might need to be on a Disney hiatus. I've had a little too much Disney. The kids had a great time though. And actually that's something I like have been thinking about a lot is that if you would have told me before I had kids and actually even should,

shortly after having our first kids, how much I won't care about my own enjoyment of things and how much I've 100% care about. Like, if my family is happy and having fun, then I'm happy and having fun if that makes sense. Totally. Like, so when the kids were just like having the time of their lives, I was like, I haven't done a single thing that I was like, oh, this would be my personal first choice to do right now. But it becomes your first choice because it's what your kids want to do.

Ah, I see what you're saying. That makes sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was like, I didn't really necessarily like. Like, if you were to write my ideal day, I don't know that we would do what we did, you know, but it was still like so fun because the kids were having so much fun. Oh, yeah. I'm just amazed at how our kids have fun, like going up and down stairs, you know. It doesn't take much.

It really doesn't take much. And then I'm like, we just have really happy, easy to please kids, I feel like. Yeah. But then I'm like, wait, why do we spend all this money if they just wouldn't go up and down the stairs? And that's like their way of having a good time, you know? They make peak memories. They talk about their Disney experiences for. ever every single day yeah no it was it was good i uh i will say we also got to meet a lot of you guys

yeah oh we got to meet a lot of you guys at disneyland which i thought was really neat i feel like disney just has our people like that's our crowd seriously just like a lot of young families a lot of happy jolly just good old good old boys is that going to disneyland what are you saying um it was even it was sweet there was a couple at the airport in orange county on the way home there's this couple uh that like came up to me and they're like can you can you like give us the inside scoop on how to make like content because like the husband was like this this uh you were i think you were like waiting by our gate and then i was like watching our boys that say had a lightsaber battle in the middle of the uh of the airport good time to catch you i'm surprised at

tsaid didn't take away their lightsabers but but like i feel like i gave worried about that but we've taken them through tsa before but okay sorry i'm getting like on a sidetrack but i feel like i gave this guy bad advice because I basically just said like you need a I was like yeah just go ahead and start but it's like no I think I think like I don't know I could write an entire novel I feel like that's always your advice yes yes but that feels like good advice yeah but I think like what I what I should have acknowledged though was what worked for us was not only did we get lucky because I feel like anybody that has success in anything there's always an element of luck but I think think what helped us succeed in like the was being cringy probably yeah probably just tell him that

next time just cringe your way to the top is what you got to do you got to just cringe and there's actually no there's a lot of people that say that like i've even seen like allex hermosy and all these like self-help people are like you've got to be willing to be cringe like all this i could have written i could have done a what do you call those online course you could sell a course babe gosh dang it what a Miss Opportunity. Just if they're really just telling people to just be cringy. Yeah, I know, but. I'm sure they have better advice than that.

But yeah, it was a really cool experience getting to meet some of you. I even got to meet a mom outside of Goofy's Kitchen, actually. I said I wasn't going to cry on this episode. So I had Matt put the tissues away. But she had just experienced a 17 week loss of a baby girl, which is like crazy parallel to our life. And then went to Disney. It had only been a month.

since the loss because she always plans a trip to Disney during her pregnancy and they still continued to go on the trip but this is like them on the trip and just reminded me because we did go to Disney right after losing Emerson like I think it was about a month after and um it's like that experience is so weird like it's good to like get out and be around people and to be busy and do fun like things as a family but then also it's just so confusing and the juxtaposition of like how you feel inside your own head and then like being in Disneyland you know what I mean so I just just my heart went out to her like so much I really haven't stopped thinking about her since I met her so um I really appreciate like her coming up and saying

that you know in whatever capacity me sharing my story on this platform like has touched her and meant something to her like that is just so humbling and really cool and it really was encouraging, but I just like hate that we also have that same shared experience. You know what I mean? Yeah. But met a lot of you guys. Also, some of you really could have seen us and not said anything because you might have been like, oh, they're falling apart. Maybe don't. Because I mean, we surely did have some serious meltdowns. I almost, I think I personally had a couple meltdowns. Well, I think, Oh yeah, I had at least one. When we were at the parade, I was so tired. I thought I was going to fall asleep while standing up. Like I was like, I'm either going to kill my husband or like need, I need an ice cream

card. Like, I don't know which one's going to have. Yeah. And, and, you know, we didn't do naps during the day, which I don't know. Because we switched hotels every single day. So every single day we see it. Please watch that YouTube video. Yeah, we got whatever that may come out. The YouTube videos coming up. Mark your calendars. Don't mark it because who knows when it's going to come. But okay. Yeah, we're, we need to get to like a consistent uploading schedule back on our YouTube channel again, guys. But it will be coming out. But anyway, we switched hotels every day because we were trying out all the hotels for this YouTube video we were making. Just also, while we were just taking our kids to Disney for fun.

But then we really, we really stretched ourselves so thin. Yeah. Why do we do that? Why do we always go so hard? We do. Like, we cannot be chill. We've actually been talking about this together a lot. We both go so hard.

Our friend, Caitlin, shout out Caitlin, because she probably is listening to this. If not, I'll tell her to tune in. Yeah. Because she always talks about the difference between a wham person and a BAM person. Do you know what it is, Addy? Please explain a wham and a BAM for anybody. A WAM person is a whole A maximum person. And a BAM is a bare A minimum person.

Great. So like the people that do the bare ass minimum. You can say, yeah. We can say a lot maximum. We're unfortunately both WAMs about like certain things. And I feel like vacationing, we just wham so much. Wham, yeah. And everything.

And then it's just like, well, then you inevitably are going to crash because no one can do that. Our kids are whams as well as it seems like they're going so hard. And we're like, but for what? Like this is supposed to be for fun. Let's all relax. Yeah. Here's my only, my only parenting hot take that I will bring up. I feel like we need to be better.

And I include myself in this because I could have stepped in more. Oh, great. Here we go. I think we, I just think when our kid, if our kid is like, actually losing their S-H-I-T, we should be like, okay, it's nap time. I tried to do that. We're going down. Remember when we were leaving California adventure?

But then Griffin was like, oh, no, I'm all better now. I'm like, no, you're not, dude. He didn't take a nap. We started literally walking back to the hotel and he goes, see, I'm happy now. No, no, but then we should have been like, no, you're taking a nap, bro. Like, you're so. I tried to tell you. I was like, he's lying to us.

He's not happy. Anyway, okay, well, that's a life update. And then we got screwed. Guys, again, we're going to be seeing who knows the other person more. And we have a bazillion questions to get through. So we better get on with all this. Again, place your bets. Who do you think is going to win?

Go ahead and comment those. And for the first question, I took a spa day right after getting back from Disney. So I'm feeling more rejuvenated than you are probably. Well, yeah, can we talk about that? I just left you and the kids. I was like, bye. Wait, no, we got to talk about the night where you were sick and you just went to your parents for your parents' apartment and left me at home.

I am not even kidding you. The sinus pressure, I feel like it's a specific to pregnancy thing. Like, it was the sinus pressure in my head in conjunction with the pregnancy, I was literally like, nothing will push me further to like breaking than that. And I was on like day 15 of this. Yeah. And I was just also just like under all these lights after recording. one day and I was like I'm checking out of my life and you know what it felt so good to go be a kid again

what a blessing that is I can literally just go to my parents house and your dad went and picked you up medicine and my dad went and got me medicine from the store he could have surely just gone to our house they let you pick out the tv show you're watching whatever I wanted to watch they watched a whole season of love on the spectrum which by the way can we interview more of the people who love on the spectrum please Madison and Tyler please we want someone if anybody knows Madison and Tyler can they please let them know we would love I cried, Matt, I cried. I think all of America cried. Yeah. Anyway, they watched a whole season of that. They got me dinner. They bought me dinner. They literally, I just checked out. Also, I fully support Abby taking a break. I think moms out there know what it's like to be sick and then being

a mom at the same thing. It can be a little crazy, crazy. So I'm very glad that she was able to take a little bit of time for herself. Because this lady literally carries the team on her back all the time, Okay, people. So we got to let's let this lady live. Thank you. I'm so glad that you're able to celebrate Mother's Day with your mom and just do some girl stuff while I hung out with the kids. You deserved that.

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ink brand. Visit cash.dap slash legal slash podcast for full disclosures. Let's play this game. I think you're up first, babe. You have to ask me. the questions. Okay. So here's round one for you, Matt. All right, round one. Okay, what's my least favorite pregnancy symptom so far? Lees' favorite pregnancy symptom? Oh yeah, you're the one writing it down, I'm guessing. Gosh, dang it. I cannot think of what your least favorite symptom is right now. It's like not even... Do you feel like I complain a lot about it? Oh, wow. Frick! I have no idea. I literally have no idea. Ready? Tell me, go. Okay, so that means I'm not a complainer. What is it? What is it? What's the main one? Frequent peeing. Frequent peeing. It's just like,

As soon as I get to bed, I'm like, I just want to sleep. And then I'm like, my brain's like, you have to pee. And then another side of my brain is like, no, you don't. And then I'm like, it's like, no, you do have to pee. And then I go and then I don't have to pee. But I feel like that's a thing even when you're not pregnant, though. Tusha. I was off that one.

I mean, I'm many ninjas today. I peed twice in a 45 minute class for the kids. So, okay, so no points for Matt so far. Zero. What is my weirdest pregnancy craving this time around? Weirdest pregnancy craving? There really aren't any weird. pregnancy cravings, honestly. I can't even think of one. Can you think of one? Think of one.

Frick! I can't think of it. I literally cannot think of anything at all. Okay, three. I'm gonna try to read one. None. None. Thank you. Gosh. Okay. Does that count as a point? I don't really think I've had any cravings. You have no, yeah, you've, there's no, no, no cravings. What? Okay. We didn't say none. We get, maybe, maybe spicy food? You don't even like spicy food. What are you talking about? I do. You've not been getting spicy food.

Now I do. Like what? Name one thing. I got, I put hot sauce on my breakfast tacos at snooze. Was that like three weeks ago? I don't even remember that. Every time. And I got spicy curry.

When did you get spicy curry? When has that my parents house? Oh my gosh. Okay. Okay, so Matt's not doing so well. If I were a red flag, what would it be? If you were, what type of question is that? Like, what is my red flag?

What is your red flag? flag maybe uh wait let me write it down yeah and you come up with an answer for this i'm not coming up with it i'm not coming i can't think of single one here's the here's the thing guys i can't think of a single red flag for this woman okay what's your red flag i don't got any red flags you're so i said i'm a hot head ha ha i was gonna say that that's what i was gonna say that i was gonna say that i totally totally was gonna say that i still for met I still have zero points. What's something that gives me the ick?

Oh, let me write a novel. Oh. Okay, wait, let me write it down. Work, brain, work. I can't think of anything today. Okay, I got an answer. It's right here. What gives you the ick is probably...

You can't think of what. Entitlement. I'm going to say entitlement. Oh. It's not entitlement. I hate ego. someone with a big ego that aches me out so bad that is another one but entitlement that's not something i would think of really no this i said your snot thing with your throat your snot thing with your throat

what the hell what when you look at me you're like okay here's thing here's thing babe i come from a family or you go you do that he literally makes that sound sometimes i do that with a boy because i have congestion in my body and I'm trying to I'm trying to breathe sorry I just want to be able to breathe out of my own nose I know sometimes I catch you and I'm like I know you have to breathe but this has to stop Okay so didn't get that one right if you were said ego I would have given you a half point because that is my biggest ick That's like a more serious egg but like my smaller ick is your throat thing how would you rate my ego on like a scale of one in ten? I'm gonna give him a five So I'm just like a normal ego

Yeah, normal Normal amount of ego Yeah, normal ego Okay That's good All right I feel like that's Five and a half

Okay I'll put you the 55% Tile Okay Okay What do I think is your best quality Oh let me write it down Okay I feel like we should

Do the caveat Is this the personality Or a physical thing What is Wait you're thinking of my best quality Or your best quality No What's my favorite quality

about you personality and physical. Okay, physical. I'm going to say probably my chest. That's what you used to, or my butt is what you've told me in the past. What have I ever said? That's your favorite quality of yourself. No, that's not true.

I just keep getting comments on it because I weighed 24 pounds than I did a year ago. It all went to my cheeks. Me and Caleb were talking about that. Caleb was saying that I have a dump truck now. Um, you regret conversation It's so shocking. I try not to vocalize.

Okay. Okay. So you got the physical one right. The physical one with my chest. Yes, I do it. That's why I'm hitting the bench right now. I'm trying to get all this, trying to move all this mass from my butt cheeks to my chest.

It doesn't work like that. Chest area. Okay, what's the personality one? Personality is the friendly, friendly guy, happy. Oh, I love that one too. Golden Retriever Energy. It's not the one I said though I just like would talk to

I talked to anybody Talk to the Uber driver Talk to Uber drivers That's not the one That would be friendly But I didn't say that one You are very friendly And I love that about you

I said you're passionate Ah yes That is also one of them So did they get a half point Yeah no you get a point I get a point I get a point Yeah amazing

Okay now it's your turn to read some of me All right now my turn to read it for Abby You have to write them down So next up I'm asking Abby questions. This is round one for me. What is my biggest pet peeve when it comes to your morning routine? I don't even know what that would be. I have no idea. Do I even have a pet pee? I'm so not annoying. Okay, I got it. I got it. Oh, from my morning routine? Yeah, got it. Oh, wow. Is he not to do something about my stinky eggs? Nope, something else that's stinky. What? What is it? I don't know.

somebody else that's stinky but see now i feel like an a hole for even my breath we can just we can just throw my stinky breath let's just edit that out we don't even need that anymore i don't care is that what it is my breath okay here's other thing that's that's kind of my stuff about that though is that in the mornings matt's like begging to kiss me and i'm like keeping my mouth closed because i know i have stinky breath i just had to pick something babe i actually don't really care like i like i'd rather kiss you're not going to get any kisses and that's why all morning dang it's i'm gonna know i just did that i just screwed myself over I'm an idiot.

I sleep with my mouth completely closed. And so it's just not good for airflow and circulation. I don't think I'm going to get a point. What's something I say all the time? Oh, it's something that you say all the time. Oh my gosh, so many things, but they're so niche. You repeat yourself a lot. Yeah, I do.

And I'm like, sometimes I actually have to stop and be like, do you know that we've had this exact conversation about four times? Got it. You say, what do I say with the boy? I'm going to help you out. What do I say with the boys all the time? This is like me and Augie and Griffin When you're playing

Just it's like a celebratory phrase That I say Boo ya No, that's what you say Oh, that's what I say What do I say with the boys You say Three words

Boom Shakalaka I don't say Oh that's what I say Three words Thank you. You do say that. Boogabaya. Boogabaga, baga. Okay.

What do I always forget? What is something that I always forget, babe? Everything. Matt lost a whole iPhone and did. Oh, frick, I did lose my entire. It was really dramatic. Yeah, yep, it was Abby's old phone that we were using the film. No service, airplane mode on, on,

had all of our YouTube video on it. Yeah, and the entire YouTube video that we'd filmed and like bought the hotel, like, with guys these Disneyland hotels are freaking expensive the Calif the Grand Californian over a thousand dollars a night okay so it's like we're vlogging this on an iPhone not worth it at all sorry does that a spoiler for our YouTube video oh yeah pretend you didn't hear that pretend you didn't hear that go watch our YouTube video but okay anyway what's something that you forget yeah so many

oh I know what it is the most common thing that I like lose most common thing that you lose. Oh, your AirPods. Air pods. Ding, ding, ding, ding. I feel like my How many AirPods have you bought? My three pairs. One for you and they broke and then one for me and then I lost them somehow and then no, no, I think we've only had, I think fully bought in two pairs. I'm like, no shot. I feel like you lose those all the time. And next question. What do I complain about most like as far as like what i do what the kids do what our dog does or just in general i haven't thought of it yet i'm trying to think of like what i complain about the most i'm thinking of some things just give me one let's see if you can read my mind like the heat in arizona

in the summer that's true i do i do complain about that you're an old man but it's gotten better now that we have a pool uh you complain about efficiency yeah i like to be efficient you're right But you're not very efficient. I'm working on that. We're trying to get better on that. You complain about, you're not a big complainer, so I'm just, like, thinking of, like, what it could be. Yeah, I don't really identify as a complainer, honestly.

Yeah. Okay, let's go on the next one. Oh, no, you complain about, you complain about, like, wanting to, like, have your physique be. That's a new thing that you've been really. I guess that's my new fixation is I want to be absolutely shredded. Is that, like, a new. Great timing for.

me, honestly. What? I just, I know that I'm going to have no time to work out once we have another baby here. So I'm trying to get my, my fitness time in now, you know? That was actually, I had this idea like, oh yeah, I'm going to go to the gym once I'm like a dad. No, no shot, you know. Yeah. No, no, no, no one can think that. Yeah. Do I get the point? I don't think, I don't think, I just don't think that was. You're so hard to play a game with. I don't think that question works. Okay, next. What is one thing you do that always makes me laugh? I know what it is. Aw.

Yep, I'm writing it down right now. I'm thinking of something like silly that you do. Think Lucille Ball sort of like physical comedy. What do you mean? Oh. I wrote down butt slaps. Where you're like, where you go to the side and you're like slapping your butt on the, you know? That's neat.

Yeah. That's super niche. But I have a video of you the first time we went to Hawaii together where you're at a blue bikini. This is been a thing I've been doing it for a long time. side of your butt, like right on the beach. When I'm trying to be sexy. Yeah. You were trying, yeah.

I think that's what, that's actually what you go to when you're trying to be sexy too. You do that. Does it work? No. That's like your biggest drive. You're like, take it seriously. It's a little glimpse. Yeah.

That's romantic life. That's romantic. Anyway. That is special. That is a special thing. I would not have guessed that one. Yep. Okay. After round one. What are we at for round one right now, Addy? We don't know each other. Two or two. We're tied right now, babe. We're tied. Thank you so much to Blisssey for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. You really like your silk pillowcase. I know. You've been trying to take it from me. I know every night when I put it like underneath my head and like double stack the pillows, you know, you just take it right back. Give it back, man. I need to get you on your own. Honestly. Yes.

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Okay, it's going to be Chick-fil-A. Wait, wait, let me write it down. Let me write it down. Chick-fil-A grilled chicken sandwich with, oh, wait, do you want to write it down? No, go ahead and say it. Chick-fil-A grilled chicken sandwich with ranch because you don't like Chick-fil-A sauce. And with, so that's the sauce. And then the drink, you get a Diet Coke.

But at Chick-fil-A? You get a Diet. I feel like you did get a Diet Coke anywhere, though. You get the Diet Lemonade at Chick-fil-A? Nope. What do you get at Chick-Fillard? Diet Dr. Pepper. Diet Dr. Pepper at Chick-fil-A?

What other sauce? What other sauce? Probably ketchup for your French fries. Yes. Okay, you get a point for that. Okay. I guess you're going with Chick-fil-A is my favorite fast food. Was that wrong?

What's your favorite fast food? No, I think that's right. I think that's... Oh, no, I think of another one. What? What's my favorite fast food? I especially like it at airports. My mouth is actually watering right now.

Addie knows it. Oh, Shake Shack. Yeah. Boom, Shake Shack. Shake Shack is so good. And when you go to Shake Shack, I think you just get a, you just get a plain burger. Plain cheeseburger with ketchup, and it's so good. And French fries.

Why is it so good? We usually split the fries, usually. We usually split the fries because it's a lot of fries. All right. Okay. What's the exact way I like my eggs right now? This is way too easy. The exact way you like.

You just want to do hard boiled every time. Yeah. Hard boiled. How many? You three hard boiled eggs. I do to them? You poke a little hole in it before? No, but once they're prepared.

Once they're prepared, you like to eat them warm. You don't like them cold. You don't want to make them too chilly. Not too chilly. What else do I do to them? You put salt in the product? Absolutely nothing. Oh, okay.

False. Did I get that? Does that? You get it. I feel like I get that one. I literally just don't do anything. I literally just him in my car eating eggs. I literally saw a guy.

He let me get in. I was like, I I I've also caught on to your egg thing I still have two of my hard-boiled eggs to go eat out I know I noticed you didn't eat your eggs today I need to eat those okay what item do I always carry with me besides my phone what item this is hard because I don't carry a lot of things you know oh I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got your water your water bottle yeah that's everywhere you you have the thing every the thing's a weapon too you never want to you never want to mess with Abby Howard just this girl has her freaking hydro jug and she will whack you in outer space.

Just like every other white girl. She will send you in, yeah, you don't, don't mess with white girls these days, people, okay? Because they got their metal hydro jug. That 40 ounce are fully filled is. It'll knock you out cold. It'll put you on your butt. You were crushing round too, Matt. Have you lost me in Target?

What section would you find me in? Ooh. It's probably the baby set, probably the baby closed section. Yeah, probably. Yeah, like probably probably like the kids looking at the kids close. Yeah. Yeah, kids close. I think you win that one.

Yeah. I'm not writing these down anymore. Is that a problem? Yeah, I think we can just. Okay. We can read each other's minds. Okay, here we go. Here we go.

Here we go. Where do I buy most of my clothes? Oh, man. Wait, yeah. There's only one answer here. Oh, vitality. You just get, you've been getting a lot of your clothes of vitality. Yes, that one.

But then what's my other one? Uh, you just put in a massive order from Abercromb. I think you spent like $500 at Abercombe. I didn't spend that much, but I did spend a lot. Nothing fits. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? Okay.

You crushed round five. I think you got all of those right. All right. Now we're on to Abby. What was I wearing on our first date? I don't even know what I was wearing on our first date. Oh, it had to be one of those mink tops. I know what it was.

I feel like it was that purple and lime green Nike one. Do you know what I'm talking about? Oh my gosh. Yes. Wait, yes. You're right. You're right. Yeah, it was the, like, yeah, the purple, yep. Was it that one?

The purple, the purple mink top. Yeah, with the shorts that didn't match. They were black and teal. We have a picture of us from when you, I think it was when you asked me to your prom. And I'm wearing, I think I'm wearing the tank top, I think. Yeah, you never had like the best. See, why do I still think that's a cool shirt? See, that just shows you like how blacking by style is.

Well, it's all personal preference. reference what was the first video we ever filmed together our wedding video unintentionally yeah actually it no no you're wrong wait i'm giving you the answer right now you got to try a little bit harder you just made a frowny face it was before our wedding video wait no i lied the wedding video was our first video was our first thing that's the first one yeah because the first youtube video we ever posted was of us doing the taste of Chicago. That's so funny. Yeah. Wow. I can't believe that was almost seven years ago. But the wedding video was recorded before that. We just didn't post it for like six months. Yeah. It'd be kind of fun to do a series of like rewatching all of our old videos. I'm too afraid

revisiting ghosts of my previous self. What did I want to be when I was younger? So many things. But I feel like first and foremost you wanted to be a Broadway performer. That's true. But I feel like we could also put in there are pro skateboarder pro skateboarder pro snowboarder just going pro you know making a big splash somewhere what was like what was like the the big thing though a singer yeah always yeah got like videos i think you took videos of me when i would like serenate you on some of our first dates yes that we weren't actually even technically boyfriend and girlfriend you were singing to me in your parents living room with a guitar that's true i was food those are good times what pet did I have as a kid and what was its name?

Why do I not want to actually, can we cut that one out? Because I feel like this is the, this is like the security question of like all my fake accounts and stuff. I feel like we shouldn't boast that. You chose that one as your security one? It's like, it's like what, like what's your first pet? Well, let me say it and then we're going to bleep it out because I'm getting this point. That's going to get me scammed.

Don't say that. I got that right. I nailed that. You're right. What Disney carry, uh, what Disney. character would I want to be or what what what Disney character would I want to play? Aladdin probably yeah actually yeah I you know I was in Aladdin the musical junior Aladdin Jr. when I was a kid at a community theater I feel like you just want to kiss

Jasmine I did want to kiss Jasmine what were you in Aladdin Jr you weren't Aladdin I there's all these pictures of me like there's these pictures of me like flexing my muscles like I'm trying to look all tough and stuff you were Aladdin? I wasn't Aladdin. I was I was I was I was Yago no I was just like a town's person

like I didn't have a role my first role in a musical was playing bundles cute yeah I played bundles I just took Griffin to Annie and he sat like the whole thing actually I just read Aladdin again

last night because I saw I'm up to day on all the characters that's right because he was flipping out that's the only thing that would get calm down reading him a book that's sweet it was sweet

the genie would be a fun one but you're not that type of character. You're more of an Aladdin. Yeah. Okay. We're still even. Seven, seven. We're still even?

Okay, guys. Yes. Round two is easier than round one. Okay. That's crazy. I can't believe we're still tied right now. Round three. Ding, ding, ding.

Am I a morning person or a night person? Definitely. Wait. Has it changed? He's like, I don't know. It used to be. I feel like we're, I feel like morning, you're a morning person. Yeah.

Yeah, you're a morning person. Yeah, I'm a morning person. Last night, it was like 9.15. We're watching a show. I'm asleep. Yeah, you were like, you're like, babe, it's too late. You got to go to bed. It was like, it was literally 9 o'clock.

I was so tired. Okay. But in the morning, I feel like I'm like sharp as a whip. You know what I mean? Yeah, we're both up at six. Yeah. Well, that's what our kids wake up. That's sunny out.

Yep. Am I more introverted or extroverted? You were definitely, definitely more extroverted. Really? You're an extrovert. Okay. I would say, I think. I think so.

Yeah. I would agree, I guess. You're very social. Very social. Very social girl. Pool or beach for me? Pool. Your pool.

Yeah, probably more pool. I moved you to the beach, baby, and you wanted to move back. I love the beach, too, though. I think you do, yeah. But the beach is just so much more work. Exactly. You got to pack everything. Whereas like at the pool, you already got a chair, an umbrella.

Yeah. Then drinks accessible. Yeah, maybe pool. That makes me lame. I wish I was more beach, but I like both, okay? What's my favorite genre of music? I actually have one, so. Jazz.

Ooh, okay, that might actually be it. You like a little Louis Armstrong in your life. That wasn't my answer, though. You like, you also like, what's the guy who wrote the song, Mrs. Leon Bridges Leon Bridges? You like some Leon Bridges I do like that What else do I like?

You love Ben Rector You love that sweet Like love song I was gonna say like folk I kind of like a folk vibe too Yeah I took a history of jazz class That's so sweet that you took a history of jazz class

What's my hidden talent Oh I have one And if you don't get it I'm running it down Don't look at this If you get this wrong This is a secret talent that people would not know.

Listeners probably don't know this, but I... Now I'm, like, getting so nervous that I forgot what it is. I could win any competition at this. No. I don't even know if Adi knows it. Oh, you can win any competition, ping pong. You're pink... No.

What? I can never do a spin, and that's why I will always lose at ping pong. Oh, hula hooping. Yes. Are you great hula hooper? I'm excellent at hula hooping, but something I found out is that when I'm pregnant, I can't hula hoop. I tried with the kids, and we were at the dollar tree, and I was like, give you mama hula hoop, and I couldn't do it.

I was like, let me show you how it's done, boys. And then I literally couldn't. So the belly got in the way. Okay, wow, you crushed that. Next up, Abby. Question for you. Who would be my dream person to meet? Dream person to meet.

I'm probably going to say like Justin Bieber. That's literally the first person that popped into my brain. Yeah. Okay, I got it right. I will say, as I've gotten older, though, I feel bad for that guy, you know. I feel like he went through some serious trauma and then smoked a ton of weed. And I think he's like on the other side of it now.

But I think he like went through some, I think he went through some hard stuff. Yeah, I'm sure he did. Just to like be in the spotlight as a young kid. Like I, yeah, I don't know. I don't want to get too deep into that. But anyway. Well, doesn't he have a quote recently of saying like that that the industry cared a lot about his skill but not about his soul or something like that? Ooh, that's good.

I can't miss, I'm going to misquote him, but I think he said something along those lines, too. I think any person that's ever had any inkling of fame could relate in some way. That would be crazy to grow up like that. Oh, yeah. I'm a child. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

And it's hard to understand what that's like. Remember that time that they had a video, like, there was a video of him circulating around. He was just at church. And like he came out and there was a bunch of paparazzi. And he's like, I'm just at, like. I love the audios now of him. of him like going off on paparazzi it's so fun i love i can't that would be so suffocating i love how the internet's on his side too like i love there's a famous audio that's circulating right now

where people were just like there's some random paparazzi dude was going up to him and he just went off on this guy and it's so funny huh i can't even think of what he said is it it's not clocking to you wait that's an old one standing on visit but there's a new one though there's one yeah there was a new one just from like you're not under or it's like that's not like i I don't remember what it was. He's like, I'm a dad. I'm a daddy. I think that's what he says.

I love it. Anyway, who would play me in a movie about my life? We're not going to say the same answer on this. I just thought of somebody, the first person that popped in my brain. Who do you think it is? Like, new actor, just saw him in a movie. You're like, you like, you're like, you're listening. You know what I actually want to play you?

Who would you want to play B? What's that guy's name? He played Tony and West Side Story. Oh, yes. That would be good. I want him to play you. Yeah. Ansel Elgort.

That would be. Is that him? Angel Elgort. That's who I want to play you. You know, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe what I need to do, babe, is maybe I need to, like, pause social media and, like, fully pursue Broadway again. Wow.

I would love to play Tony and West Side Story. You'd be such a good Tony. I would love it. And, like, randomly sometimes, I'll whip out. Give them a little. Maria. Wait, no, what's the, what's the, what's the show? You're a jet.

You're a jet from your first cigarette. No, what's the song? I used to sing it for auditions. It's not Maria. It's, uh, it's, uh, no, gosh, I can't think of it right now. What are the West Side Story songs? I can't think of it. There's a place for, right.

Is that Aladdin? No, it's not West Side Story. Um, I get, I give every song. Officer Crubkey, we're down on our knees. No one likes a fella with the social. Oh. tonight tonight

won't be just I'm just gonna cry I love West Side Story Tonight there Yeah that's the I think that's the one that I used to sing But I sing that when I was like I think I sang that before my voice changed

But that Okay the challenge You're still working through that transition I know Well sometimes That my falsetto I need to work my falsetto I get like

I get a little nervous On my falsetto That still freaks me out a little bit But no you'd be great Okay wait Who are you gonna say Who is just Oh Angela

No no no no no Jacob Allorty. He's like the new, he's like the new, like... You do kind of look like him. I feel like every woman wants that man. No. He's a good actor, too. That's what I respect is like he doesn't,

I don't even think he has social media because he just doesn't give an F. Like, he just cares about acting. He doesn't care about like the fame time. I was kind of like... I didn't understand why they cast him in Frankenstein because it was just CGI the whole time. We still need to finish that.

Gosh, that movie was horrible, though. Let's go finish it. I think he gets me. Better in the second half. We were just like an hour and a half in. It was my birthday. Okay, let's go. Keep going.

Okay. So I got that one right or wrong. Probably wrong. No, I didn't say Ansel. I didn't say. You got that one wrong actually. Sorry. Okay.

What video game slash fictional world would I want to live in? Probably freaking Minecraft. I don't, I'm going to give that point to you. Like, I wouldn't actually want to live in it, but Minecraft is the best game of all time. Can we just be honest? Like, me and my middle school, bud. When I was in seventh grade, that game... When Caleb and Abby were your brother,

yeah. Like, me and Abby were just downstairs, and we're like, where do they go? And you guys are just upstairs, and then Caleb likes to play the music for Minecraft. Yeah. He likes the volume of it, even though the volume doesn't even do anything.

The soundtrack of Minecraft is so relaxing. Oh, my. And it puts you at peace. And it's just, it's just with the boys, and it's just so good. And then now... And then we have two remote remotes that our kids will use and they think they're playing but they're actually not and it's so fun you guys have

really hacked the dadding system we really did yeah yeah uh what tattoo would i get if i had to choose one you would get emerson's name yep where am i going to get her name you that's what you can never decide on that's why i haven't gotten the tattoo yet is because i've gone back and forth and where to get her name i want you to get it by your heart see that's the thing is like i want to have it by my heart but i think i want to but but then like i think that's where you want me to have uh her name but then i think I want it on my arm. Okay, then put it on your arm. I think I should just go ahead and do it.

Like, I've overthought this for so long. Yeah, that'll be cool. It'll be cool. It'll be cool. Like, every single time I looked down on my arm, it'll just see your name. Do it when we go to Tahoe. That'd be so sweet because my dad wants to get the same exact tattoo. Yeah. To remember Emerson.

So we'll have to do it and get it on the same place, same location. I don't think you have to get out of the same location. I guess we don't. I guess my dad can do whatever he wants, but we did have a phone call me and my dad talking about that tattoo and where we want to get it. I like that. I like that a lot. And I want it in your handwriting. You have beautiful handwriting. That's so nice. I want it to be in your handwriting. What is my dream car?

Cyber truck. See that like that's the thing is I feel like I got my dream car. Like I feel like just having a Tesla like when we got married in 2019, I had like you're not a car guy. I'm not really not I'm not a car guy. But I just learned like what Tesla was and I thought it was cool that it was like a self-driving car. And so yeah, we got. I feel like. I don't think I'll ever experience that like excitement of having a car ever again. Because I remember like I was just freaking out when we got delivered to our house. You know, I could give you a half point for that one. Okay, yippie.

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question again? What restaurant would I pick if I could only eat at one forever? Oh, cheesecake fact. Yeah, think about that menu. Let's freaking go. I would never get bored. Yeah. How could you get bored at the cheesecaper? You'd get morbidly obese because every, every meal there's like 4,000 calories. It's crazy. What about the skinny licious menu? Oh, that would. I get a different meal. I get breakfast, lunch, lunch, and dinner when I'm feeling skinny licious or when I'm feeling like a big back, I got everything. That's so funny. I got everything I need right there. you need right there, baby. Gosh, we need to go back to

She's like a fact. It's been at least a month since we've been. It's been way too long. That used to be our date night spot every week. And then we just stopped. Then we stopped going on dates. Why did we stop going on dates? We forgot about each other. Been doing too many podcasts. If I'm upset, what treat would you bring me to

make my day better? Probably but-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-da. Don't think about food, honestly. Think about what's something that I need every time I'm upset. Anytime I'm even slightly inconvenienced, what do I need to do? Go to the gym. You see you go to the gym and go. That's true. When you're, but that's not the one I was thinking of. You're just feeling

anger. That's true. You're going to go to the gym. This girl is going to go to the gym. I need to go to the gym. Um, so if I'm slightly inconvenienced, any inconvenience in my day, it's like I got to reset. How do I reset? Take a bath. Yeah. Yeah, you got to say this is a, yeah. Sometimes I have to take more. than one a day if it's like really i feel like okay i will say i'm in the lead right now but i think

abby's helping me out on these answers you think you kind of just led me to the answer oh sorry you also changed it like it was supposed to be like what's the food you want and then somehow we ended up on bath okay what what what physical treat would you get me i'm i'm thinking i'm thinking of one too probably just chocolate probably no no uh uh diet coke no okay that's the right answer sometimes what are you thinking also the fact that you're saying diet coke is i'm just like letting it go but i'm coke zero so sorry that that that is embarrassing you've been in coke zero girlie for probably two years also i'm a rupeer girl now you're a root beer girl i had to update my syllabus for you about myself okay okay what treat go err go ice cream cookie sandwich from trader jo's

That yeah, that would be good. Definitely delicious. But see that like that, yeah, but you're right. I'm wrong. What's the most random thing that makes me emotional? Oh, I got it. I don't think you're gonna get it. Usually just like a random Instagram reel or a TikTok.

You're like, I'm just catch you balling your eyes out. But that's not random. That's normal. I feel like a lot of people just start crying when they're emotional. On reels. Like it's especially the ones where like you see the grandma and grandpa and then their kids and then their kids. And then soon there's like a family tree of like 75 people like on the field, you know. That's the type of video that gets you every time. Gets me.

Not what I'm thinking about. This is a random thing that makes me cry. That's what the question says. What's the most random thing that makes me cry? What happened to the lost colony of road? I don't know. This doesn't make me cry. What is it?

Spiral. Which they did find out what happened to it. Yes. I did announce that. You said that I'm always here? I love that. I hope that was accurate. I actually, I announced that to you like a week ago. I came running up into our bedroom.

I was like, babe, they found. I was scrolling YouTube. I was scrolling YouTube and then I was like, they found the lost colony of Roanoke. Just a puzzle piece. Yeah. Old couples holding hands. Oh, I should have had that one. You really should have had that one.

Yes. That is something that is really random. I used to cry because I'm just like, I just hope one day Mad and I can be old together and still be in love. And holding hands. Holding hands is also just such a precious thing. Yeah. Like, it's so precious to hold. Especially when you've been together your whole life.

Yeah. I'm gonna cry right now. What movie makes me cry every time? What? We got a lot of crying once. That's okay. This is who I am. What movie makes me cry every time?

For me, it's up, but for you, would it be the different movie? Wait, let me think. Let me think. Do you even know what the movie would be? So many. Coco also got me Like remember me It's the Pixar ones for Matt

Yeah Pixar knows how to do it man I almost started crying when the Pixar band At Disneyland started playing Remember Me They like they just transitioned to it Out of nowhere and I'll like Oh just like hit me in the freaking soul Yeah you were like having a visceral reaction to that

Yeah got me A movie that makes me cry The last time I watched up was after We had our miscarriage And then that part of them losing their baby Was like literally had me on the floor. Like, so sad.

So, so sad. I hate that we know what that's like. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I guess we can both stay up, but I can't remember why I'm not thinking of one. I haven't cried during a movie in a long time. Just kidding.

I have cried a lot during movies. You cried, Wuthering Heights was, like, awful. Yeah, that was brutal. Ruined our date night. Ruin date night. That's why we stopped going on date nights, honestly. That's the day we stag wrong. Honestly.

I don't think we've been on a date night since that movie. I think we just figured it out. Yeah. Wuthering Heights ruined date night for us. Thanks Wethering Heights. Thanks Jacob Allority. What the frick? We're doing date night every week.

And we just stopped. We're not doing it every week. Okay, every other week for sure. I don't know about that either, but. Once a month. Once a month. No point? I don't know.

That's not really fair for him, but no point. No point. I see, Addie. has like a calculator like a website. I know. I think if I just keep tally, it's kind of hard. That's so funny. You've got a scorekeeper website.

That's so funny. What's something that cheers me up instantly? Probably taking you to Disney, I guess. Wait, no, it's so much simpler than that. Flowers, no, flowers don't really do it. Last time I got you flowers, you didn't even notice. You didn't say anything. You just put them on the counter.

I said, who gave me these? I wanted to see if you would notice. You didn't notice. It's okay. No, I noticed. I just had no idea where they came from. I was gonna walk into, you're always here recording,

but then I'm like, I don't want to like, you know how if you like do it for like the attention of it, then it's like, it's kind of takes the whole point away. You just over thought the crap I meant. I had no idea that you got me flowers. Yeah,

so then I didn't show you that I got you flowers than you'd ever do. Okay. Probably taking a bath. Probably that. Sure. That works every time. That works every time.

Yeah, that's a good one. Okay. your turn. Yeah. What's something I've been overthinking this week? Every. You're right.

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. High five. For your whole life. Everything. Literally everything. What is my most irrational fear? Oh, moving on. That was correct.

Most irrational fear. Tiny shards of glass getting in your body. How are you so good at this? Wait, get that I tell the story. You got to tell the story. Which one? There's so many stories. The last time that this happened.

The last time this happened, I think Caleb accidentally broke a glass. It's an OCD thing. Yeah, Caleb accidentally broke a glass. And then I warned everyone, I warned Abigail, across from me, I was like, hey, he's going to be cleaning this up for the next, like, hour and a half. And then, sure enough, the vacuum, the vacuum, next thing out, got a broom. next thing, vacuum's back on. Like, you're just like, then you're spraying and wiping. Yeah, I don't want any glass to get in my kids' feet.

That would not be good. Glass. Also, if he thinks that he might have accidentally eaten a container that has chipped glass. That's true. Internal bleeding is going to be on his mind for the next 48 hours. What is one of my biggest regrets? Maybe buying our Airbnb. Is that too serious?

You know, I learned a lot for that. Leaving Hawaii, sad. Ew, yeah. Yeah, man, that got a little too deep, too fast. It's been five years, almost. And that's the end of the podcast. All right. I hit the nail on the head.

Oh, gosh. Well, two more questions. What's a baby name? I love, but you hate. I feel like we agree on baby names. I know. I feel like more than you like. Yeah.

Well, you're the one you've picked out all of our baby's names, and I've just, kind of, like, signed off on them. Yeah. Like, approved. I mean, I feel like I don't hate it, but you want to name one of our kids after you. That would be kind of,

why do I think that's kind of fun? It's just so confusing because my dad's Matthew, your Matthew, then we have another Matthew. Yeah, and then also something about that, like I don't know I've gone back and forth number 48 what is my favorite physical feature of yours

I'm gonna write it down you're gonna write it you can't even say it for a podcast listeners no you could use the oh gosh you went right for it you were am I right don't say it out loud yes I mean yeah yes

okay but I mean I was thinking more of like a like a like a more specific than that I was thinking more PG than that My eyes? Yeah. Let's go with those. Let's go with those.

I like your eyes. Okay. Well, did I get that right? Uh, well, yeah, we'll give it to you. Okay. This is so insured. This is so insious. Abby,

the two and a half. Oh! The half point! Okay, I will say, we do need to get a mic in here because people have been requesting that you have a mic. I'm not. No, Addy is saying 15, 15 and a half. I'm winning. What's my love language and how do I actually like it express?

Huh. Your love language is acts of service. Yes. And you like it expressed by me, like, just, like, cleaning our house. Chor play. Chor play, baby. Yeah, I think you got the right. I've never heard of Chorplay before.

That's funny. Seven years of marriage, we'll do that. Chor play. Only seven. Okay. What's one? thing I wish you did more of. War Choirplay, probably more

Choir Play. And if you do do something, you're like, look what I'm like, it's not actually the fact of seeing you do it, it's the task done. Then I'm like, oh. No, it's doing it together. It's romantic. No, I do love doing.

It's romantic. I genuinely love doing chores with you. Yeah. I wish he got you as... It's my favorite thing. As excited as it does me. What's something I pretend not to care about, but actually do? Uh, but...

You wish you could sing. Yeah. That's really sad, actually. It's so sad for me. Maybe you could help me be a better actor, and I could work with you on your singing skills. No, it's... I tried. Seven years of private.

voice lessons. At my best it was pretty bad still. On the real though guys I would love to see Abby in a movie. I think she would crush it like y'all she can act okay that's so nice she can also my nose I pretend not to care about it but I don't like it that's really sad yeah just putting it out there I think you're beautiful it bothers my mom when I say it but I don't have her nose so I say it to her And then my dad has the same nose so we can talk about it together. See, your dad, I think parents need to be aware of what they say because your dad like roast himself. And I'm like, I have the same nose. It's like, it's not the same nose.

Because like if you talk negatively about yourself and then your kid hears it, then they're going to like pick up on that, you know? Yeah, but also I feel like it doesn't really count. Same thing with like bot, like with weight and with just like anything with like appearance. any of that insecurity can go out to your kid, you know? What's something I judge people for but won't admit? I got it. I guess I'm admitting it. You judge people for it?

Yeah. There's like a couple acceptable answers here. Gosh, I'm so judgmental. Okay. Probably. This is something I would be like, oh, I wouldn't do this, but I tell you about it, but I would never like, like, it's not serious enough to bring to that person. You know what I mean? Gossip.

gossiping? That's a good one. That wasn't what I was thinking about. It'd be kind of hypocritical to judge someone for gossip, I feel like. Yeah, gossiping about somebody. Yeah. That was not what I was thinking. But see, we're safe people. Like, we can tell each other anything.

You're no fun to gossip to. Why not? And actually, that's not true. It's still not okay. Maybe people get, I don't even know. I'm sorry. I'm going to play. I don't know.

People being mean to their kids. Oh, yeah. Not good. And I also say being mean loosely. Like, sometimes if I'm like, that was just way too, like, that was way too much. That's a big one for me too. It makes me so angry. Especially if we're in like Disneyland or Disney World and people are being like, like yelling at their kids.

It's like, can you just take a chill pill? Like it's just supposed to be fun. Yeah. Yeah. It's supposed to be the most magical place. What's the other one? The other one else you know of is like laziness. Oh, yeah.

Just do it. Yeah. Get off your butt. Yeah. Yeah. That's bad because I'm also gosh, I'm on my butt a lot sometimes. So that's just that's why I don't breathe up. You work hard though. Thank you. You work. You get a lot done. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you to Ladder for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. Have you ever found yourself at the gym where you're just kind of doing whatever? You don't really have a workout routine. You don't really have a program. You're kind of just willy-nilly doing, you know, some push-ups and then maybe a couple pull-ups. And then you're and then you're walking on the stair climbing. You're like, what the heck? Like, what does? What is my actual plan here? If that's you, you need to hear about ladder. I've recently discovered Ladder and now have a workout plan with an expert coach. That can be done from anywhere. Ladder is an expert strength training plan. It's real progressive programming designed by certified coaches.

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I've decided to just let go of those. But what's one? Oh, this makes me so sad because I don't see it at all. It's your belly button. Like, for some reason, like, you get, you get all upset about like your belly, your belly, which is so, but it's so beautiful. You're growing our baby. Okay. It must stay hidden.

I love it. You got to show that thing off. That's why I'm like. It's a great belly. I like it. I can't go to the pool. You're beautiful. You look so beautiful.

I can just get a one piece. You're a hot mama. That was a point for you. All right. Well, these are the same questions. Gosh, we've been. playing this game for so long. Are we almost done?

I'm having a good time. Oh good, good, you're having a good time. We've got one more round after this one. I'm gonna start writing them down again. Okay, now we have what's my love language and how do I actually like it expressed? I do have to write this down.

Oh, I know what it is. Ready? No, I'm supposed to be the one writing it down. Oh my gosh. It's physical touch. Physical touch. Got it. I was thinking of something a lot more PG.

It was just you playing with my hair. Just you play with my hair. You like that? What? Yeah. I like it. So I got that wrong. Just scratch you.

Oh, so keep doing it. I like it. That is so weird. No, you got it right. I mean, I'm not going to stop you from that form of physical touch. I got it right. So do I get a point? Yeah, you get a point.

Scratching your head? Matt Howard. I like it. Okay, wow. Good to know. I love being hugged. I love just being. You love hugs.

I said hugs. I'm a physical touch guy, you know. What's one thing I wish you did more of? What I wrote down? Ding, ding, ding, ding. Okay, next. All right. What's something I pretend not to care about but actually do?

A lot of things. So many things. Yeah, a lot of things. Everything. I don't know. I want to say it. What is it? What is it?

What did I do? What was funny? I go say it Okay say what is it I don't write it down And then I can let you know if it's okay It's okay to be said Oh

Let's keep that one to ourselves We don't need to share that with the internet Okay But am I right? Yeah you're on Okay Okay Damn we're just getting so open

It's so open today My walls are down They've been down for a while Okay. What's something I judge people for, but won't admit it. The won't admit part is throwing me off because it's like... You will tell people straight up. I mean... I feel like I'm a pretty open, honest person. Well, also, I don't really think you're judging anyone. You're not judgmental. I don't think I'm, yeah, I don't think I'm judgmental. Oh, I know. What? How they spend their money.

Oh. See, I will admit that, though. I will admit that. I'll tell them to their face. You're like, that's not a good thing to do. Yeah, especially, especially like the rules of money are simple, but it's easier said. I will say it's easier said than none. Way easier than none. What blows my mind, though, is the, I'm sorry. What I will say, what's fascinating about money is like, it does not matter how much you make if you don't learn to keep some of it. You're, you're never going to have like anything for yourself. And that's like the, that's the most important rule of money. It's not about how much you make, it's how much you keep. It was really good. Yep. That's a rule from the

I nailed that one The richest man in Babylon That's a whole book about that Go read it Go read it Dave Ramsey likes that book too Dave Ramsey too I love Dave

He's a great guy What's my current biggest Insecurity Do you know what it is You're writing it down again I don't think this is a new one I spelled that wrong Your person 80

I think I like my personality You told me that you were not You were not confident about your personality and that made me sad. No, I like my person. I think I'm just insecure. Just general insecure. Yeah, I'm going to work on that one.

Did I just roast your life by saying your personality? Yeah, maybe a little bit. Did you or did you not tell me that? You're like, I've always been confident about this, but I've always been not confident about it. Yeah, I feel like I'm in therapy right now, guys, because I want to be the best version of myself for my kids so that they, like, I think your kids just like do whatever the freak.

They don't do what you say. They do what you do. They just copy you. I think there's like great qualities about my parents and I, and I have nothing. I love my parents. They're great people. I just want to, I just want to try to be the best version of myself so my kids can follow that, you know? Can we just clear my name that I didn't just try to roast your life?

You did say that to me? When did I say that to you? Oh my gosh. Maybe I'm just stupid and I just forgot that I said that. You think I just pulled that out of there? I probably said that while I was feeling it's a year. Don't make me, don't make me the asshole here. All right.

So no point there? No point. Okay, Abby, you're up. After five rounds, half. Oh, Abby's winning. Going into the final round, Abby's winning, guys. I haven't beat by one and a half points. Okay, let's see.

What's something I've changed my mind about recently? You really don't change your mind much, honestly. I think I do. I feel like you don't. Can you think of anything that you've changed your mind on? There we go. That's exactly my point. Am I a stubborn old lady?

Yeah, you are. But it's okay. I love that about you. You do? Yeah. No, I feel like I feel. change my mind about something. You're your, you're Vicki Biswell, but in a younger version. You're like a younger version of your, if your grandma. Microplastics. Yes, Abby would not let me heat up my

frozen peas in the plastic bag the other day. You're welcome. In the microwave because of macroplastics. You don't want to know why? Addy gets a point. Addy gets a point for that one. He gets a point, I guess. I guess I'm stubborn old lady. I get a point for that. Yeah. Okay. What's my current hyperfixation? You know, that's like a thing that I do, so I don't really know what that would be for you, but I'm thinking probably microplastics. No. No.

What? What would it be? Do you even know what it is for yourself? You don't even know what it is for yourself. Yeah, I do. No, you don't. What is it then? Like, audiobooks?

No, that's always been a thing. Podcasts? No. That's so general. Um, yummy protein shakes? No. Eggs? You've done eggs forever.

Eggs. Reading. You've always been a reader. You're funny. I like you. Steak? Grilling. I grill a lot more.

You started letting me grill again. Yes. And Abby admitted it, guys. She realized that the reason I got fired from grilling duty was because she ordered the wrong meat. So she got wild salmon rather than farm-race salmon. Here's something you should know. Yes.

It's that wild salmon. Taste gaming. Taste like you. You're literally just plucked a fish from a pond. I'm not kidding. And farm-raised salmon tastes way better. Yeah. And I accidentally one time must have bought wilds food.

Yes. And it tastes like we were eating cat food. Yes. And I thought Matt muffed it up. But it was actually, I just wrought the wrong meat. Yeah. But I'm back grilling again. He's back to grilling every night.

I grill salmon. I'm grilling chicken tonight. And salmon. And salmon. Um, how many cavities have I had? Okay, let's actually narrow this down to you. How many cavities did I have after my pregnancy was Griffin? I want to say there were this. Was it four? Yeah. You had four cavities. Yeah. Four cavities after having my, after my first pregnancy. Ding, ding, ding, ding. They had to do it in two different shots. Like they had to do

one half one day and one half the other day. Yeah, that's crazy. So if you're a lady that's pregnant, get your teeth checked. You could have some cavities. Well, they can't even do it while you're pregnant. Wait until after you're pregnant and then get your teeth checked. What's my proudest moment? Probably becoming a mom. Yeah, that's so easy. You're so, it's so cute.

The video of you finding out you're pregnant with Griffin, you like have this like little hand go up. You're like so happy. It's the sweetest thing. Because I think you dreamed of that since you were like a little girl. Forever. Yeah. Where is my dream vacation?

Don't overthink this. What's my favorite thing to do? Your dream vacation? Yeah, my dream vacation. Do you love to go to the lake and go your late girl? No. You, oh, oh, I'm overthinking this. I'm so overthinking this. The spa. You like to go to the spa and get a massage and just relax. That's true. That's true. But I was just going to say, just me, you, and Cabo is like our favorite place.

Yeah, Cabo. We love Cabo. It's just unlimited food, rest, and relaxation. And we just get to be. married. Yeah. Just get to be married, not be parents together, which I love being parents. But it's just so special after having kids to have that like two days of alone time. Yeah. So special.

That's good. Okay. Okay, that's the end. I don't think you got that one right. Okay. Yeah, no, I don't think you got that right. All right. Spa.

Spa is kind of right. What you were thinking? Well, we go to the spa. Okay. What is my biggest pet peeve? Shoes on the table? That does. Fiss me off. Yeah. I was just waiting for you to say something because I can't even think of anything.

Shoes on the counter. Shoes on the counter. Piss me off. I don't like that. Yeah. I don't like shoes. If you wear your shoes in the house, take your shoes off. Okay? We don't want your term in this house. If you think that, uh, you have touched any bit of poop. Got to wash my hands at least 17 times. Yeah, I think those are, that's pretty all-inclusive. Yeah, that's pretty good. I'll give you a point for that one. What's my proudest moment? In the YouTube play button? I actually was, that was like pretty crazy. Yeah.

The thing that came to my mind was marrying you. I'm gonna cry. I don't want to get a motion on this podcast. What? What? I just love you. I just think that that was like my... You did pretty good marrying me when you really think about it.

I did. I really... I married out of my league, so... Stop, that's not true. Pretty crazy. Yeah. Just like the whole day, I remember just like thinking about how

lucky I was and I was just trying to like enjoy every second of it. It was cool. That's sweet. Don't you forget it. What is my favorite Christmas movie? You don't like Christmas movies. But if I had to choose a favorite one, which one would it be? Okay.

Four Christmases? Not the one that I was thinking of. Polar Express. I was thinking of Elf with Will Farrell. What? Yeah. You never have ever asked me. Hey, let's watch Elf.

Will, will is a funny. guy. You read the Polar Express book to the kids every single night. I do. You're right. And it's April. But I haven't watched that movie in a long time. I don't know when. That's just because it's a shadow book and I project the book onto the wall using my flashlight on my phone. I got that wrong. What is my hidden talent? I just, I just came to my mind. I know it right now. People might know what this is, but a lot of people, most of the internet would have no idea that I can do this. Your hidden talent? Yeah. Most people, most people would have no idea. People that like really know us would know. because of our background and the arts.

Is that you can tap dance? Yeah. I led you to that answer, though. No. Just so that when Abby wins this game. Matt's a really good tap dancer. He really actually is. Wait, why do you say that?

Do you have your tap shoes still? Dude, that actually be so, should I like tap dance right now? No. No? Not now. Maybe not right now, but I do have... Not now. I thought of this video like two years ago and I still haven't filmed it, so I'll just tell you what it is.

Like waking you up in the morning by tap dancing. Never do that. immediately vetoed that would be so funny like you're just like yawning and waking up and i'm just like i'm doing i'm doing a triple time step on a wooden platform that would actually be kind of funny okay um if i were a red flag what would it be uh you're a mouth breather uh you got it right how did you know that's exactly what i'm thinking this man literally buys special tape to tape and clothes at night time. Yes, I do. I do buy tape to shut my mouth. And here's the thing. It's not a problem that you're a mouth breather. It's the problem, the residual problems of you being a mouth breather.

The fact that you can't chew with your mouth closed because then you won't be able to breathe when you're eating food. If you have a cold, it's just a nightmare of a different sort. That's right. Yeah. And you're a chronic overthinker. I do overthink the frick out of literally everything. You're right. And not very decisive. You are correct in that. Well, now that Abby, said all of my red flags. Thank you guys for listening to another episode of Unplanned. Matt got 21. 21.

Oh, Abby won. Ding, ding, ding, ding. That is only right, honestly. Congratulations on winning. Thank you. I love you. I'm so happy with my wife. Thank you to KTB-Y-99 for leaving us review on Apple podcast.

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