The Viall Files - Ask Nick - He Won't Delete His Ex's Photos
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today? I'm good. What's your name? My name is Riley and I'm 30 years old. How can help,
Riley? I thought I was going on a bunch of really, really bad dates and I am noticing that I might be the
problem now. Okay. What makes you, what made you notice that? I've been single for two and a half
going on three years and ultimately I have been on a lot of dates. I've tried a lot of different
types of people, different energies, their careers, whatever lifestyles. And I am just feeling
kind of defeated because nothing seems to be like a good fit.
But I'm noticing this reoccurring avoidance and commitment problem.
From you?
Yeah, from myself.
Okay.
You said you're a single for like two and a half years.
What did that last relationship look like?
So my last relationship was very happy.
We were super loving with each other, had a great time.
We're best friends.
I ventured a lot together.
But ultimately, I was just sat down on a very random day and told that he wasn't happy
anymore and I kind of had to pry it out of him that he was breaking up with me.
And so it came pretty suddenly after living together, planning out our life together,
deciding that we wanted to have a future as far as marriage goes and things.
And so was it devastating for you?
Were you like, I kind of see what you're seeing and maybe it wasn't so bad?
Like what was that like for you?
It was pretty earth-shattering, honestly.
It came out of the left field.
I was not expecting it.
We have been in couples counseling just to like adjust to living together because he was super introverted and I was really extroverted.
And so just trying to understand how those styles can mesh within a household.
But then like maybe a month before this, we had both come to the agreement that therapy was going great and maybe we take a pause on it and just keep implementing what we had been implementing because we were both really happy.
How did you process that breakup?
Not well at all.
We tried to be friends because, like I said, we were best friends during our relationship.
That we tried to be friends.
And ultimately, it was almost like he was my boyfriend without him being my boyfriend,
just helping me out still and like showing up and whatnot and emotionally being there.
How long did that last?
God.
He offered to be friends to feel less bad about breaking up with you.
And you accepted the invitation to be friends in the hopes that he would change his mind
and you could win him back.
Maybe.
I think I was pretty certain that he was done.
He's never gone back to a relationship.
So I had accepted that we were done,
but I was a little delusional in hoping that we actually could be friends.
I'm sure you probably had a,
you weren't delusional in the sense that you were like,
I could definitely get him back.
But like I don't think deep down if you truly believe that,
there was no hope you would have.
You know what I'm saying?
So when did you,
how long did you guys pretend to be friends?
for like maybe three to four months, so quite a while.
And then what happened?
He started dating somebody that was in our friend group and told me about it.
And that's when I decided that we could no longer be friends.
So it's almost like two breakups in a way?
Yeah, I guess so.
And then how did you deal with that?
Not well.
I definitely obsessed over it.
I thought about it constantly.
Where are you now with it?
So, you know, now I don't miss him. Like I very much accepted that we are not each other's people.
Okay. And that that was not a good path to go down long term. However, I am still hurt by how that went about. And I think I'm really scared to commit to anybody.
How are you hurt? Because it was so sudden and unexpected. I have a really, really hard time trusting.
other people and trusting myself.
So I feel betrayed.
I wish he could have been a little bit more clear,
maybe leading up to that,
that he wasn't happy or maybe even honest with himself.
Sure.
I have a really hard time trusting.
Well, how much in terms of you guys not being for each other,
like, are you, you totally believe that?
You totally feel that?
I believe that.
I would like to have a person that emulates similar qualities
just as far as like,
wanting to do similar hobbies has a very light, excited, carefree spirit.
But I don't want him at all because I've realized he has some deep-seated issues if he couldn't
communicate with me.
You're basing that solely on how he broke up with you?
There was other things.
I mean, he lied to me.
So him and I both are sober and haven't drank for years.
but he lied to me about how long he had been sober
because he was afraid that I would judge him for that
and run away.
He didn't want to spend Christmas with a lot of people.
Like he was very limited on his ability to be with other people
during the holidays.
So there's definitely things that I really don't think long term
would have been a good fit.
Okay.
You know, listen, I think obviously that breakup affected you
in a way that I think is meaningful.
and quite honestly almost kind of sounds like there's still like some leftover debris from that breakup
that still affects you.
I don't necessarily suggest you like spending more time and energy thinking about like why
you shouldn't be together.
But like did you get individual therapy like in terms of just dealing with that breakup
and processing that loss moving on from it?
I got into therapy a lot later than I probably should have because I think in the moment
I thought I was handling it well, but hindsight's 2020 and I wasn't.
So maybe about a year and a half ago, I started going to therapy.
And I was a lot more like cagey and guarded than I had normally been in therapy before.
Normally I'm a pretty open book.
And it took about like nine months for us to actually talk about anything substantial.
Do you still find yourself thinking about how he broke up with you?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
The how I think is what's hardest.
But if he's not your person, why does the how matter?
Why is the, oh man, why is the, I don't know if that makes sense.
But you know, why is how he broke up with you matter?
I guess it shouldn't then.
I mean.
Have you ever been in a tough situation where you just were a little bit confused about your feelings?
And then you knew that those feelings might affect other people.
But at the end of the day, it's how you felt.
And you weren't really sure how to communicate it.
And maybe you tried your best to communicate it the most honest and effective way.
But like, you're also a little confused about like, you know, knowing that.
that it would hurt someone else.
And have you been in that position?
Yeah, definitely since that breakup.
I've been in that position at least a few times, you know,
where I'm probably now the one that's super suddenly cutting things off.
But I, you know, I just want you to think about that because it sounds like you've spent
a lot of emotional time and energy not being able to get over how he ended things.
And you spent a lot of time and emotional energy ruminating about how he lied to you.
which is not untrue, but I think you're probably painting a narrative that's probably a little
harsh, both to yourself and to him. And ultimately, like, what does it accomplish? And I think there's
a level of forgiveness that would benefit you. It's just like letting go of that relationship.
I mean, you're only 30. You know, you have a long life ahead of you. And really,
relationships are complicated. It sounds like, just from what I'm hearing, you're just, you've really,
like, again, you were victimized and you were hurt, and that was a very difficult time for you,
but you have not let go of that pain. And you have kind of sulked in it a little bit. And I, you know,
I've been for different, you know, I've been in your position before. And I remember and I started
using the feeling of I love to hurt so good. You kind of get comfortable with that pain,
almost becomes an identity. Like when I was in your position, feeling wronged by former partners,
I, fuck, I held on to that, like an identity. You know, it was, you know, I would,
especially when I was in my lowest, I would, you know, anyone who would talk to me, you know,
a boy, I had a story to tell. And that story was, you know, it was like this Greek tragedy.
And I was the victim in that story. You know, when I told that story, I wanted people's
sympathy, and I kind of became addicted to that. It really became who I was. This person who was
wronged by their partner lied to misled. All I was ever doing was chasing love and trying to be a
good partner, and this person just couldn't be honest with me about their feelings, you know. But the
reality is he was honest with you. He broke up with you. Like how he got there, probably a little,
like, not as clean as you had hoped. But at that time, he broke up with you.
You loved them.
You thought you wanted a life of them.
There was this no version of him breaking up with you that was going to be like,
cool.
Yeah,
actually,
you know,
I get it.
You know,
I'm totally,
you know what I was.
There is this no version of that,
right?
And I'm not saying he deserves a pass and I'm not saying he probably could
have done things better,
but it's kind of gotten to that point where you've given him too much power and
you have,
it's really got it in your head to the point where now you are feeling it
affecting your dating life going forward.
And it sounds like you maybe haven't really fully.
forgiven him, you know, or yourself, it is still something that you think about from time to time.
Yeah, absolutely. We've had to see each other a lot recently. We haven't seen each other in about two years,
but we had a mutual friend who unfortunately died. I'm so sorry. And so thank you. We went to
the memorial, and I knew I was going to probably run into him there. It's just been a lot of
accidentally running, not accidentally, but like having to run.
into him lately and yeah I do have anger towards him still like I have anger towards his now new
wife you know like I I struggle why with them or her yeah sure specifically her but yeah uh with her
because we were becoming friends and then she ended up going and dating my ex but they're now
married we did a lot of yeah no for sure I mean well there's only two there's two there's two
possible outcomes of that relationship. Either they are truly happy together and that's how it should be.
And despite your ego feeling a certain way about it, you know, he's not your guy. And you didn't lose,
you know, it's just how things played out or they're wrong. And eventually they'll have an even
messier breakup than you had with him and her time will come, so to speak. Either way, the energy that
you are, I mean, you just have, you have to see it this way, right? You know what I'm saying? Like,
Like you feeling any type of hatred towards her is it's hurting you.
You know, it's, it's, it's, it's sucking, literally sucking out of you that doesn't do you any good.
And in fact, pride causes harm, right?
Like it just, that's not energy you're putting into yourself in a positive way, you know.
And yeah, I can't help but wonder if like, you know, with how, how can you date with so much anger that you're holding.
holding on to still.
Yeah.
I mean, it seems almost impossible, especially with my experiences.
Why do you say impossible?
I guess just any time that I do feel like I like someone or have the potential to
like somebody, I get totally freaked out and run away.
Or I start nitpicking and finding reasons why they're not my person very easily.
But I mean, do you think it's impossible for you to...
move on from this anger that you have?
No, I don't think it's impossible to move on from it.
I think it's impossible to be happy and find my person being angry.
Definitely making it harder for sure, yeah.
Yeah, I think you got to try to let go.
It would seem, yeah, I mean, I agree with you.
It would be very difficult for you to truly move on and find your person when you're still
hanging on to some bad feelings that are two years old for a person who's moved on.
And that's the problem with you not processing this loss in an effective way is that like he has since moved on.
It's been a reasonable period of time.
He has literally married now.
And because you've held down to this anger.
Now when he's moving on, it still feels like in a fuck you to you.
You know, this guy's just living his life.
You know, the friend, you know, it's not fun.
You know, it's like you weren't friends with her.
You were becoming friends with her.
You were friendly with her, you know.
And the reality is is that like, you know,
Like if the roads were reversed, you would have done the same thing.
If your heart was healthy and you had a, you know, and you met a guy and you, you had this acquaintance.
You know, it's like you wouldn't say no to a love interest because I'm an acquaintance of that used to date someone.
Nor would you be expected to.
Would you agree?
Yeah.
It sounds silly when you say it like that.
It's not silly, but it's all personal.
Like, listen, like this is your life, right?
Like, you are the main character in your life.
And I think that's just something to be cognizant of is that in your story and how you're telling the story to yourself, you were wronged.
And you haven't had to be too delusional or make too many leaps to be like, yeah, it's fucked up what he did.
It's fucked up.
He started dating my friend.
And it's fucked up he married her.
And it's like it was bad enough he broke up with me and it wasn't on with me.
Then he just, he couldn't just, you know, he definitely doesn't see it that way.
And a lot of people don't, but like you do because that's the story you've been telling yourself.
Yeah, I'm just processing a lot of what you're saying.
Are you still in therapy talking about this stuff?
I am, yeah.
We have really...
What do you guys talk about?
Have you talked about any of this?
No.
Oh, absolutely.
What is your therapist?
So she has made it aware to me that I have quite an important.
avoid an attachment style what does that mean to you i've heard of avoid attachment style but i'm just
wondering what that means in relation to everything we just talked about like because again i don't i'm not
i'm not an attachment theory expert i understand the concepts and i think they're interesting
but i don't know what that has to do you know what i'm saying it's general question i'm not denying
it but it's just more talking to you for five minutes it seemed pretty clear that that breakup
fucked you up it's still fucking you up and it is taking a lot of your emotional energy
and it's energy that's making, it's negative energy.
And I don't know how that doesn't affect people.
To me, that's the thing that I would love for you to process.
Again, I've related to your experience, right?
And I've been in your shoes.
And I remember when I was doing the thing that I think you're doing now,
I was a victim in my story, right?
I was in my main character version of the reality that was through my perspective,
I was wronged.
That was the narrative
when I would talk to
like my lady friends at work.
I wanted their sympathy.
I told the story
through the isn't this fucked up.
I couldn't have seen it coming.
I,
you know,
I did everything I could.
I fought for this.
They didn't.
You know,
and it's just long past,
it mattering, you know?
And it wasn't until
I finally was like,
I had to stop, right?
And those thoughts,
don't just magically go away.
But when they do pop in,
it's literally telling yourself
to kind of get over it,
to just be like,
all right,
I can't keep thinking this way.
Listen,
we're not supposed to be together.
And telling yourself,
you're happy for them.
Or if you can't get them out of your head,
it's like you fake a team make it.
It's being happy for them.
You know,
when I was felt wronged by a girlfriend,
the first time I got engaged briefly
and then moving in together,
and felt blindsided, you know, when she got engaged, you know, I don't know, like nine months later
to the guy. And I ran into her. I was like, I, and I, at first I didn't totally believe it,
but I was like, I'm really happy for you. I mean, like, yeah, I realized I really didn't want to be
with her. I knew she wasn't for me. My ego was still bruised, but I really had to like,
change that narrative in my head. And I had to like, you know, say it out loud. And when people
asked, I stopped being sad and the victim. And if people offered me sympathy about that, I was more
like, you know, and I don't need that sympathy anymore. I'm good, you know, like, and I wasn't always good at
first. I think that stuff goes a long way. I think, you know, like saying things to yourself matters.
Like the pictures we paint in our head are our reality. The things we tell ourselves become our
reality. So if you tell yourself, you're not okay, it's hard to feel okay. You know, if you tell
yourself, this is the right thing for me, even if I don't feel right now, you'll eventually,
you'll eventually get there. And I just feel like, you know, it's like for the past two years,
you've been telling yourself, you're not okay. What has your therapist telling you that you're
an avoidant attachment? How has that helped you? I guess that's what has helped me is like now we're
starting to have conversations about understanding how I am in relationships with other people,
not even just like romantic, but even like friendships and family and whatnot.
And we're trying to figure out how to like communicate that to another person.
Can you give me an example?
We've just started going down this path.
So I don't have a ton to reference.
But essentially like I really struggle like sticking it out when I get uncomfortable.
And I tend to want to.
flee rather than communicate what's going on with me and that like what I'm needing in those
moments or just like letting somebody know what's actually happening rather than cutting and running
running because that's what's comfortable. Just out of curiosity, any of these men you're kind
of referring to that you've cut and run. Do you regret any of them? Do you miss some of them?
Do you feel like you fucked up? Yeah, I mean, one of them for sure. I feel like we have
a really good thing going. It was so recent after like my ex and I broke up. It was only maybe six
months after that. So it was still pretty soon. But the moment that I had a reason to run away,
he like isn't the biggest fan of dogs. And there was a big elephant in the room because I have a
dog. And he's a very hairy dog and a very needy dog. And there's a lot of things about him being a
dog. And so the second that I found out, he's not a big fan of dogs after dating for like
three months, I just like cut and run. And I think I had a very big attitude. Like,
nothing's going to change my mind. Like, this is what's right. Did he try to stop you from ending
it? Did he fight for you? No, because he told me, I can tell that you're really serious and nothing I say
is going to matter. It's like I have a lot of things I would like to say, but I don't think anything's
going to matter. And I walked out the door.
And what about any of the other guys?
More recently, like literally as of this last week, I ended things with somebody,
very great person.
I don't think there's anything wrong with him, but I just keep believing that we're not compatible.
Why?
You know, a lot of my reasons are kind of silly and ridiculous.
Like, you know, like, he wants to be helpful and starts giving him.
me tips on how to run my business. And he wants to, like, be helpful and send me things
throughout the day, like food and coffee and whatever that I never asked for. And it just feels
overwhelming. And so I push him away. And he lives in another state. Are you asking for help
to run your business? I mean, is it helpful? What he's doing? No, I typically already know what
he's telling me. So then it makes me feel like he thinks I'm stupid.
Yeah, so kind of mansplaining to you and it feels a little condescending.
Yeah, although I feel like I could maybe communicate that, looking back.
And I don't know, maybe that's just who he is and that's how he would be an entire relationship.
I mean, listen, I think it's great for you to identify that you probably could be better at communicating some of these little potential pet fives, you know, that you are seeing as non-negotiables.
but I also just like wonder if maybe none of these guys
or maybe your guy, I don't know.
How do I determine if somebody is my guy?
Like I have lists and things of what I would like, but.
Well, I mean, listen.
I would love to have a partnership one day.
Without being able to spend too much time with you on the phone,
I feel confident in saying you got some work to do
when it comes to still healing from that breakup.
And I think, and just correct me if I'm wrong,
if I'm saying anything out of pocket.
But I still think you're spending a lot of,
when that relationship pops in your head,
and I think it does more than it should at this point
two and a half years removed from it,
you still have very negative, angry thoughts and feelings
towards the relationship, towards him, towards her,
and that I think that is really affecting you
in ways that I don't know if, you know,
we can fully understand.
And I think that's something you should look into.
I think you need to get over the last breakup.
still and I think you know hopefully therapy can help and I'm sure it can but I think a lot of it
starts with you having the discipline to check your thoughts and and not allow yourself to ruminate
and change the narrative in your head to stop being a victim of that story you were wronged
you got to kind you kind of have to get over it try to just let it you I think you have to
almost say I forgive I forgive him I forgive them I don't want to be with them like yeah he hurt my
feelings. There's no good way to break up with someone. I was always going to be hurt. For that relationship
to end, I was always going to be hurt. And that doesn't make it okay. You know, he probably could have
done better. But like, you have probably re-litigated what you think or what your ego thinks he should
have done to make it less hurtful for you. And you just keep replaying that moving in your head.
Imagine what you could have done for your business, you know, with all that energy you've invested
in that. And partly it comes to just not needing your egos validation to say, yes, you were wronged.
You were like, you deserve to be sad. You like, why aren't people understanding how great you are
and why aren't more people feeling sorry for you? And I think there's that voice in our head that
wants that, you know, compassion when we're hurt, you know, I think you've just, you've, it's become a bit
of an identity to you where you have to like change that. You have to look in the mirror and see it,
not the person who was hurt by him, you know.
Yeah.
I agree with that.
You have this business, you know, you're doing these things.
You have to get better at being kindier to yourself and knowing you deserve better and
you're doing great things and seeing that relationship truly is something that needed to end.
Yeah.
I mean, I know I'm a lot better off.
I would have never had this business.
So wait, you wouldn't even have had this business if this relationship didn't end?
Yeah, probably not.
I think I feel like I've gained a lot of independence.
When was the last time you said that out loud to yourself?
A few weeks ago.
I mean, I do acknowledge it.
When?
But I guess I like need to give it more power.
A lot more power.
So much more power.
I mean, that's, I mean, I'm a totally different person than when I was in the relationship.
I told myself I couldn't live in the city alone.
I couldn't have this business that I dreamed of having.
I couldn't do all these things.
And then that's, I mean, the fact that you can tell this story in such a vivid way
where I can feel how sad that breakup made you feel.
But in the reality, that breakup led to you having your own business, opening up a lot of doors
in terms of like it eliminated some self-limiting beliefs that you had about yourself.
And yet that is not the narrative that in your head is something you should work on.
And when you can master that, I think attachment theory and all that aside, I think I would be
surprised if your heart wouldn't be a lot more in a better place to receive and give love.
For sure. I can definitely focus on the negative more than the positive at times.
Well, I'd challenge yourself to do that. And a lot of it is, again, it's having those kind of say it to
yourself. Repeat it to yourself. You kind of you have to you have to be you have to be
tougher on yourself when it comes to the narratives you have in your head. Totally. And I think like
sometimes what feeds into the negative mindset is definitely the drama aspect like you've said.
I will admit that I'm a hairstylist. So when people ask what's going on with your dating life,
it's a lot more exciting and entertaining.
And I can pretty much have a script of like the rundown of what's happened since their
last appointment, you know.
And let them vent to you and let them, yeah, but like you be the listener.
Don't, don't relate to their pain.
And when they're venting to you about ways in which maybe their life isn't happy,
be mindful about like, again, not relating to their pain, but like give yourself that
acknowledgement of like, I know it.
It's like when you talk, you know, I'm several years removed.
I can be like, yeah, I know what it's like to have been in your shoes, but I am so grateful.
I don't think the way you're thinking right now, and I'm so glad I've been removed because like you,
I wouldn't be sitting here today if some of those relationships didn't end.
I mean, my life would be a lot different, you know, in the worst possible ways.
And, you know, you have to free yourself of this narrative.
And again, you know, actual tangible energy, you know, this thing I talk about all the time is like how much this, you're not giving this away.
This is, it's literally costing you, even if it's just time.
And then, yeah, I can only imagine how subconsciously it is impacting your decisions about the men you're dating and, you know, triggering your attachment disorders and things like that.
But I would try to focus on the narrative in your head.
Agreed. Was this helpful at all? Yeah, I mean, I think I like had already overcome some hurdles that sometimes you disclose to people and that's what's challenging is being like, oh, you got to look internally. But I think it's good to like hear a different perspective of how I need to look internally and where maybe might be helpful to feel from.
Yeah, you got a lot you got a lot of things to be proud of about what you've accomplished and what you're doing. And I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit. You got to let go.
of that girl who was wrong.
You know, you got to, you know,
just like you got to forgive it.
You got to let that, you know, I don't know,
some kind of ceremony or something,
but you got to let that.
Truly, though, you got to let that go.
You got to try to let it go.
Awesome.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
All right.
All right, bye, bye.
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Hi, I'm good. How are you? Good. What's your name? My name is Gabriela and I am 27 years old.
How can I help Gabriella? Should I break up with my boyfriend or am I just being dramatic?
Why are you considering breaking up with your boyfriend? So there's a couple of reasons. So I made a pros and cons list if I can just go through that with you.
Love it. How old are you again? 27. How long have you guys been together?
I want to say four months now, but he is an ex. So we dated previously.
How long did you previously date?
It was about six months the last time.
And how long are you separated for?
Four years.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, and we didn't talk at all in that time.
Okay.
And then how old is he?
He is 30.
Okay, all right, let's hear this pros and cons list.
Okay, so the pros was...
Pros for staying together or pros for breaking up?
Pros for staying together.
Okay.
And cons are why.
would want to break up with him.
Understood.
So the pros are, so he was a little messy, but I had a conversation with him and he was very receptive.
So he has gotten better.
So like, for example, he's a pilot and I do events for a living.
So I'm home a lot more than he is.
And when he leaves, I take that opportunity to like fully clean the apartment.
You guys live together?
I stay with him.
I want to say maybe like five or, yeah, like five days out of the week.
So it's more than when I am like alone.
You're playing house.
Pretty much.
Yes.
And we also have two dogs.
So I kind of just...
We have two dogs?
He has his dog.
I have my dog.
And we bring them together.
Understood.
Okay.
Yeah.
I clean everything.
And then whenever he came back, it was an issue of, like, he would just leave his clothes
on the floor.
I would wipe down the kitchen and everything.
And he plays video games to, like, two, three in the morning and, like, leaves a plate
in the sink.
And, like, chips are out.
Like, just stuff like that.
And I just could not do.
that. So we had a conversation. He was good. He's gotten better. He puts his laundry away. Every time I
just do it. I don't, I kind of just like put it. I fold it for him, but he puts it away.
He does not leave plates in the sink overnight anymore. He washes them now. Another pro is like he just
comes from a good family. I've met his family. Like, we get along well. Very nice. Like I think
they would get along with my family. He also like doesn't go out. He's not like a party guy. He stays at home
most of the time. So those are the pros. The cons. I feel like I have to explain to him.
regularly how it is that I want to be treated, which I feel like these things are kind of like not,
not that I want him to read my mind, but it's like you should know that like, like, I want to go on
dates, right? Like I want to go on dates every now and again. That's not something that we just do in
the beginning. And then now it just kind of like fades away and we don't go out anymore.
If he gets like frustrated, he yells a lot and I am not a person that likes that. I don't like to be
yelled at. I don't like to take any like disrespect. I am able to like communicate how I feel.
I feel like calmly.
And if I can't, I don't know, like I go for a walk or I do something to get my mind out
of that headspace.
He does not do that.
He like literally just goes from like zero to 100 and like yells at everyone, even the dogs.
And I'm like, what do the dogs do?
But anyway, that's like another thing.
I don't, yeah, I just feel like he cannot effectively communicate how he feels.
I don't feel like I'm being valued, especially when I do those things like I am cooking
for him.
I am cleaning for him when he's gone because it's something that I want to do to like make
his life easier.
and I feel like he doesn't do that or reciprocate that for me in any way.
Yeah, I just feel like in that sense he is also is like a little selfish.
It's always like me, me, me, me, me, like I work a lot.
I'm tired.
I'm this.
I'm not.
And I'm like, okay, like I work.
I go to the gym.
Like I cook.
I do my meal prep.
I'm also in the process of becoming an officer for the Navy.
So I just submitted my application.
So like there's a lot of stuff that's going on over here too.
It's not just like your life and everything that you're going like you're dealing with.
Oh, and there was this one incident.
This one's a little crazy, I feel like.
I was cleaning the closet, the guest bedroom closet,
and I found, like, a bag of, like, photos and notes of him and his ex.
Okay.
And I kind of, like, honestly, I wanted to put it out on the counter just so he can, like, see that I saw it,
but I sat on it for a couple days.
And then I had a conversation with him, and he basically said, like, oh, I didn't know
that was there.
Like, my mom cleans pretty much, like, the apartment when I'm not here, whatever.
Like, I had no idea.
So I'm like, okay, cool.
Can you just, like, throw it out?
because like why would you have that there?
So anyway, he's like, yeah, yeah, I'll throw it out, never throws it out.
So one day I asked him to take out the trash and I kind of just put all the trash together and I took
the stuff that was in the guest bedroom and up in like that little bag or whatever and I put it
next to the trash.
And he's like, oh, like, what is this?
And I'm like, that's the stuff with you and your ex.
They said you were going to throw away that you never threw out.
So those are some cons.
Did he throw it out?
He did.
Yeah, I watched him throw it out.
But it's like, why am I telling you and watching you and having to like hover over you to do this?
Have you ever, you don't have any, you don't have any memorabilia from past relationships?
Um, I do. However, they're not like physical items. Like, I have maybe a couple photos on my phone that, like,
I just haven't gone through to like go and delete, but it's not something that I physically have,
like with me, you know? Why not? What do you mean you don't physically have it? It's literally on your
phone. You're carrying it around with you. I feel like it's different when you have like these
wooden frames or like literal, like little love notes that you guys wrote each other. Do you think he's
like reading them? I don't think he's reading them because I find a lot of time with him and I
can see what he's doing. But at the end of the day, I just, why haven't you deleted those photos
from your phone? Um, I guess I just haven't like, there's a lot of photos on my phone that I need to
delete that I haven't deleted, you know, it's not just. But why, why haven't you deleted them?
I just haven't taken the time to like go in my phone and delete it all. But like, you know,
you've seen them, right? I'm guessing you've, for a variety of different times, have looked for old
pictures and you've kind of scrolled through, right?
Like you've done this thing and then you've,
oh, there's that photo. Oh, yeah. And you just kind of
keep going. You're like, like, oh, you see an old photo
and it kind of reminds you keep going.
But like, why, why not be like,
why not stop and take the literal
half a second it would take to delete any
of these photos? I feel like I have
for some of them, but not for all of them because it would take
a lot longer than just like a second,
you know, it would take me a lot
time to leave. I'm only, like, listen,
like, we'll get in the other stuff,
but specifically just talking
about the memorabilia or whatever, I think that's one of those situations where we have a lot of
double standards about when we see that, right? When you see that of your boyfriends, you internalize
it and then you, you know, like you have a feeling about it, right? It's hard. I totally get why you see
it, but then you assume why you know or why you think he's hanging on to this. And then when it's
you, you know, you know, it's like when I'm asking these questions, why even delete it? The truth is,
you're probably like, I don't fucking know. I just really give him much thought to it. And then,
it and I certainly like I don't have feelings for this person I used to be but it was a part of my life and I don't know I don't feel like erasing that part of my life because I know deep down I don't care about this person I'm not like pining over it I'm not like I'm not like reminiscing over this photo that's in my phone it's just like I don't know it was a part of my life you know it was a lived experience that I had and I'm guessing that's why you haven't deleted those photos because they're not affecting you they're not like you know what I'm saying and the way
that you kind of like worry that it could be affecting him you like you know it's not affecting you
to have these old photos and like I just think sometimes we just like we don't want to eliminate
parts of our life you know it's easier to hang on to things not because we need you know it's like
I doubt very much that your boyfriend's hanging onto them because like he's just in case we get
back together no it's just more like I don't know that was just like literal memorabilia from
his life. Yes, but I feel like if I found it and we had a conversation and you say you're
going to throw it away, but then you don't. It's kind of like, if he went to my phone and he was like,
hey, I saw these photos of you and your ex. Why do you still have those? They make me uncomfortable for
whatever reason. I would have no problem deleting them. Maybe. Yeah, I guess I get that. But I just,
I don't know, it's just kind of sometimes weird to feel like you're eliminating something. And you guys
have only been dating for four months and you've made a really long list of why you should break up with
them. And you're, I don't know, yeah, it sounds like you're going to break up with
this guy. Your list of cons are far more, well, it's a longer list. And that list is a lot more,
like your pros were like, you know, he took a note about dishes and his family's nice.
Your cons were like, he doesn't make me feel good. And I'm just objectively, you know,
it's like, you know, this guy's about to throw out parts of his life for someone who's about
to break up with him. I mean, is that like crazy though? I think the things that I would want,
Like I would want to be made feel special by my boyfriend.
Is that like, am I being dramatic in that sense, you know?
Just talking about the photo memorabilia stuff, do I think you're being a little,
I meant dramatic.
It's a tough word, but I think that's the least of your concerns.
And I think I'm just focusing on this because I think it's very relatable.
You know, I think anyone listening, we've all, like, I've been you.
You know, like, you know, we've all been triggered by this types of stuff, right?
I've been in your shoes. I have felt how have you felt. I'm, you know, having been removed from it,
I just, I think we can all realize when in those situations, I think we often have a double standard.
That like what we say we think it could mean and why we think it's fucked up that this person hasn't got rid of X, Y, or Z.
But when we hang on to something, I think it's much easy for us to give ourselves grace as to why we don't let.
It's not because we're obsessed. It's not because we haven't let go. It's not because we haven't let go.
we, you know, it's just like, I don't know, it's just like, it's like memorabilia from your life
in a weird kind of way. So I think in general, like, you know, you've only been named this guy
for four months. I think the fact you guys got together four years, I mean, that was a whole,
four years ago. That's like a whole different people. That's a whole, like it's, it's almost like
a complete reset, right? It's, and then, you know, you've been dating for four, four months,
which is no time at all, all, right? And you're essentially living together. You're saying things
our dogs, you know, and things like that. And quite honestly, like, I mean, like video games still
too in the morning is a bit much. But the things that are irritating you sound like pet peeves,
but they feel like non-negotiables because, again, like the way you're describing your relationship,
you're describing it as like two people who are living like they've been together for five years.
And you're kind of playing, you're playing house. And yet, and rightfully so, some of the little
things that you realize that he does early in this relationship and you're going to learn more
things that he does are kind of annoying. And the things that you find obnoxious and annoying,
you know, honestly sound annoying. But they, you know, you don't have the, you know, you're like,
you skipped the honeymoon phase and you went right into like being annoyed. He plays video games
and leaves the dishes in the sink. And it doesn't take you out on dates. But like, I don't know,
you're also just like living at his house and like sharing dogs and like playing house. And
there's no, you're not dating each other. You're not courting. You're not.
he's not he's just like yeah this is my girlfriend you know like part of building a
an emotional connection early in dating is this like almost not having that security early on
is a good thing right it makes us like wonder if they let you know makes us kind of
keeps us on her toes you know and things like that and that's just kind of a human thing so how
would you suggest then that we kind of if I let's say if I don't break up with him right and I
want to stay with him should I just like take my stuff out of the apartment and just say
hey, like, I'm taking my stuff.
I think we should just go back to, like, dating how we did at the beginning.
I don't think it has to be so drastic in that where it feels like a step back.
But I think, you know, you guys could sit down and say, I think, you know, we've only been
for four months and we're kind of playing house.
I think we need to, like, slow down a little bit.
And I probably should spend more nights at my apartment than I spend at yours.
Like, it can be this gradual thing.
And you can say, like, listen, I want a date, you know, like, you don't, have we been
in four months and you don't even like he just has so much access to you early on yeah you know
you're you're acting like a wife yeah you know i mean i figured that's like i don't know what he would
want when we first started dating i guess i'm sure he probably does a lot he probably really likes the
fact that you're there a lot and he probably likes the fact that you do a lot to take care of them
and you've probably made a lot of like parts of his life easy and convenient so much so that he's like
i don't know i don't i don't need to ask her on a date she's gonna
She's going, she's here.
Okay.
That's fair.
Yeah, I'm going to tell him about that that we should slow things down.
As far as like the yelling, how do you think I should address that?
Because literally just this morning, he was running late.
And so yesterday I told him that I was going to put the tree away.
The tree is still up.
And I couldn't because I just like I went to go do my grocery shopping.
Then I started my meal prep.
Then my mom called me.
So I went to my mom's house.
Like just a lot of things kind of came up in the day.
By the time that I,
everything was done. I got back at like seven. He's landing around like eight, comes back at like
8.30. I'm making dinner for him. A separate dinner. I'm making my meal prep. I'm done with
everything. But I didn't have time to put the tree away. So this morning, he's running late. He's like,
oh, we have to put the tree away because his dog is literally psycho and goes to the tree all the time,
breaking everything. So he's like, help me put the tree away. And it starts like yelling. And I'm like,
why are you yelling? Like it's, I literally just woke up. I'm helping you do something, whatever. And he's like,
well, if you would have done this yesterday, it wouldn't have been an issue.
And I'm like, oh, blah, whoa, whoa.
Exactly.
It is not my job.
I'm here to help you.
And it's like I told you that things came up throughout the day that I couldn't do it.
And you were fine with it yesterday.
Now all of a sudden you're running late.
It's your problem.
So I literally said, that's totally fine.
If you want to yell at me, that's okay.
You can put this tree away by yourself.
And I walked away and went back to the room.
What is that?
He was just like, kind of like, not like moping around,
but like kind of like mumbling under his breath.
Like, this is so.
be stupid, do, do, do, do.
And just, like, yelling at his dog to move.
And then he stepped on, okay, so his dog is, like,
pee pad train.
I'm not judging, but it's an Australian Shepherd.
They have high temperament.
That dog needs to be walked.
So the dog went on the pee pad, and he, like, stepped on the dog, like, poop on the
peepad.
So now he's like, oh, now I have to clean my shoes and da-da-da-da.
Just kind of having, like, a crappy morning, basically.
Now, because of this whole tree situation and his dog and this and I didn't help.
So I'm, like, in the room getting ready.
I'm getting ready to go to the gym, whatever.
So that whole thing happened.
And then he left.
He didn't say by nothing.
Just like stormed out the door.
And then decides to text me and says,
just when you leave, I would gratefully appreciate it.
If you can make sure nothing is accessible to the dog.
Lock the doors, fix the kitchen camera.
Thanks.
I'm going to be over the Gulf of Mexico so I won't have Wi-Fi.
Like, I would gratefully appreciate it.
Why are you talking to me like that?
What's wrong with that?
I don't know.
Like he normally is just like, hey, babe, can you?
just do this really quick before you leave? Like, I don't know. I just feel like there's no apology
and now you want to talk to me like if like I'm like your co-worker or something.
I mean, I interpreted that and you know him better than me that him, he probably felt bad for
overreacting and he was just trying to like say, I would really appreciate if you could do this.
This would, you know, listen, that's better than saying, why didn't you do the fucking tree,
which it wasn't your job and him acting like it is your job. This is more like, listen, this isn't
your job, but you would be doing me a huge favor if you could help me out. Like, honestly, I felt like
that was probably an over correction by him. I mean, but, listen, as far as other stuff, you'll,
you probably, like, you know, right? You know, like, we all have bad days. Some of us are a little
bit more reactive than others. And I think for the most part, 90% of people are a population,
kind of work within this, like, you know, I don't know. Like, we just all have different temperaments,
but it's all like fine and okay. And sometimes we might get a little triggered and then we might
act out we might have to apologize but like for the most part we can we can be checked by our friends
or family our partners and say hey like you can't talk to me that way whether you get that
apology immediately or like they cooled out and in a half a day later like hey listen i'm sorry
and you know couples have to work through that right that being said if this is something where
he's not receptive to feedback he never backs down and it's truly just a regular thing where it's
you know, to the point where it feels really toxic and it feels not healthy and it's never
gets better, you know, like, I guess you know, I'm saying, he's kind of have to use your
common sense. So whether you feel like this temperament he has is truly like something that isn't
manageable for you or, or him. Or, you know, is it just like, you know, he just, you know what I'm
saying? Like, you, you'll have to be the judge of that. I think you have the common sense to know
whether his temperament is manageable and he's able to acknowledge it or not.
Yeah.
As far as the other stuff, you're just kind of playing house.
And I think it's hard for you to assess this relationship because you're, you guys are acting
and living like a married couple, but you've only been dating for four months.
And you probably have a lot to learn about each other.
And neither of you are taking the time to really, like, build that emotional connection
and grow into something.
And I think that would probably be helpful for you guys to do.
So just start off with the conversation of like we should just kind of go back to dating for a bit and see how that goes.
And then proceed with kind of like the way that you yelled at me yesterday just did not.
It didn't feel good.
I don't like to be spoken to that in that way.
And then kind of just see how things move forward from there basically.
Yeah, but just be careful how you communicate that because the way you're communicating that, it sounds like you yelled at me.
So now I'm moving out.
Okay.
So how should I communicate that without him thinking that?
Well, I think you don't have to have them.
I don't think you have to have it all in one conversation.
I think, one, just how you guys are going about your relationship, which is like it sounds
like it's playing house a little bit, is to say, hey, listen.
Well, and I don't want to put words of your mouth, but assuming like overall, like,
hey, listen, like this is, I like where things are going, but I don't, I think we're kind
of moving in an unhealthy way.
I don't, like, we just started dating and we're kind of already playing house.
And I'm getting annoyed.
And I think we, I think we're getting frustrated at each other.
for things that people who have been dating for only four months
should have getting frustrated at it.
And we don't really have that kind of foundation.
Like, it's kind of be jarring for some of you've only been dating for four months
to yell at you about why you didn't put the Christmas tree away.
Yeah.
It's like, with who are that fun?
It's like, huh?
Exactly.
Yeah.
I mean, we've been dating for four months.
You put your own goddamn tree away, you know?
But, like, that's weird that you guys have at this comfort level
to, like, have these demands of each other.
So I think it's just trying to have a healthy,
mature conversation about like just slowing it down a little bit. He's like, well, what does that mean?
He's like, well, it doesn't necessarily mean anything, but I don't think I should be spending five,
six nights a week at your house and living there. You know, he's a pilot, so he's probably out of town.
Like, I can, but like, that's the thing. Does he have a girlfriend so that when he's leaving
that you can eat so he has somebody to take care of his dogs? Yeah. No, here's another thing too.
So he's not like an airline pilot. He does private. So he's home a lot. Like he will maybe fly
and then come home that night or the max he's gone is maybe like, maybe like, he's,
like four or five days.
And after that happens, he gets like a whole week off.
Okay.
So he's not, like, you can do some of this stuff on your own.
Yeah.
So anyways, it's just trying to have a healthy balance in your life.
And hell nowadays, people are like, we'll date for four months and they barely are
exclusive.
You guys are like, basically have moved in with each other.
I guess it was just like the history that we already had.
And, like, you dated for a few months four years ago.
And we probably would have stayed together, but I moved for a job.
But you didn't stay together.
And I was when that ended.
Yeah, because I was like, I'm in a new city.
I'm a big girl.
That's fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like you weren't talking in that time.
Yeah, no, we did it.
So we got together and it kind of, it did seem like we were the same but a little different.
So you had some familiarity with a guy four years ago.
And in that time, you both lived different lives and you grew up and you learned about life and you both changed as people.
You didn't like you'd change completely.
And again, there's a familiarity there that you guys have that obviously like draw you guys together and allowed to get together.
But like, your acting is as if.
you kind of casually dated long distance for four years, kept in touch. And this is just like you guys
taking things to the next level. Okay. Yeah, I guess I'll talk to him then and just kind of see where that
goes. You guys shouldn't be fighting over who's putting the Christmas tree away, four months into a
relationship. Yeah, it wasn't, just for me, it's not so much the Christmas tree. It's more so like,
just why are you talking to me like that? You know, like I didn't do anything. No, I know. I get,
he needs the work on that. I get that. But help yourselves out because again, you guys are fighting
about shit that like married couples right about.
You get what I'm saying though?
I do. I do. I can either text him or I can wait until he comes home tonight and I will
probably be out of work maybe around like. Text him what?
Just kind of like how we should maybe take a couple steps back. Like that what you kind of what
you just said like I like where this is going and I want to be with you. But maybe I should spend
like less time in your apartment with you. Yeah. And I think you should talk to him like this is
the decision you're making together. Don't you think it's a little silly that we're playing
house the way it is. Like I don't, why are we fighting over Christmas trees? Yeah. We just started dating.
Like, why, we should be, we should be in a honeymoon phase. We should be still giddy about,
like, excited about going on dates and missing each other. No, yeah. I do want that. You know,
it's like the way you're acting now is it's like you have like a shared calendar and, and,
and you're fighting over like, he didn't run the errands and, and pick up your prescription or
something. It's just like, what? Okay. So it seems more like a conversation we need to have in person.
Yeah, because communicate.
And again, I will say your pros and cons list is a little one-sided.
Which I feel like is something I need to take into consideration.
Maybe. I mean, if you don't think this guy is, you know, four months in,
thinking about, like, how in ways he can make you happy.
But again, like, I don't know, he's only been dating you for four months.
He isn't a mind reader and, you know, like.
He also hasn't had to tell me, though, like ways that I can make his life easier.
Those things are just coming from, like, within me because I want to do that for my
partner. Do you know that he's making his life easier? I mean, I would assume so if he's coming
home and the apartment is clean every day. He doesn't have to do anything other than just like chill
and relax. Yeah, maybe he's just taking you for granted. Yeah, I think it's crazy, but in a guy for
four months, you're picking up his mess and making him dinner. Oh my God. Okay. I'll just talk to him
And I think this was pretty eye-opening, actually.
I think maybe, I guess I just probably shouldn't have moved in or just spent so much time with him in the beginning.
It's not the end of the world.
I mean, again, I think a little communication can go a long way and you can get things back on track.
But it's just being like, yeah, it's just like, we just started dating and I'm making, I'm like your, made.
Made.
It's like, you know.
Like your mom, yeah.
That's the thing.
It's just like, my boyfriend's a little messy.
I don't know.
Like, honestly, four months in, dating someone who's a little messy should be the least
of your concerns because it's like, I don't know, they got their place, you got yours, you might
notice something like, oh, you're kind of messy.
But it shouldn't really be inconvencing you because you should kind of have your own independence
in life.
But you've just like, started dating and we're like, all right, well, I'm just going to spend
every night here.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I will talk to him.
I don't know.
I'm kind of nervous to see how it's going to go.
but this I mean you guys should be able to have these types of conversations and if anything else
not being able to have this conversations would would be an indicator of maybe I honestly feel like
if I tell him just that we'll dial it back and kind of get some stuff out of here he might
take it immediately as like I want to break up like I don't want to be with you anymore well don't
communicate it that way don't say things like step back and ask him questions you know like
Hey, how do you feel like this is going?
I don't want to be picking up after you.
And I don't want to be making you dinner.
Yeah.
You know, not yet, at least.
And listen, if he goes nuclear, it's just like, again,
if you're trying to just have a conversation,
you can't have a conversation and take a note,
that might be an indication that he's, you know,
I don't know, maybe not your guy.
All right, understood.
All right.
Sounds good.
Thank you so much.
All right.
Take care.
Keep us posted on what happens.
Okay.
We'll do.
All right.
Bye.
Bye, bye.
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blind double date thing. We've been official for 10 months and we made it exclusive like two months in.
We're kind of semi like long distance. He lives in Miami. I live in New York. And so we see each
other a lot though because his family lives here um like prior to like being official because it did
take like seven months it was kind of a cat mouse game of like i wasn't sure if i would say i'm not sure
if i want to do the long distance and so i mean i that was kind of on me but he would always ask me
my timeline and i just would just ask him back i wouldn't answer and his timeline like he's 28
and his timeline was he wants to be married at 29 and have kids by 30, 32.
So he was always asking those questions like about kids, marriage, like if I love him,
before committing.
So he was, I don't know, he kind of had that mindset of dating to marry, which I really appreciate.
And before becoming official, we've been on many trips.
He flew me out to where he lives in Miami a bunch of times.
Pays for everything.
It was like a fairy tale relationship, honestly.
And he made it official in Puerto Rico.
He invited me to a wedding.
And that was like seven months in.
And during that trip, he made it official.
And he would say things like, I need this to last.
Like, I'm all in.
I don't want to ever do this again.
I'm never dating again.
Like, this needs to last.
Don't do anything stupid.
He said don't do anything stupid and he needs this to last?
Yeah.
It was kind of like, it almost seemed like he wanted, he kept asking, do you love me before
he made it official?
It was kind of like, I need you to be all in because, I don't know, he took it very
seriously in my opinion, I guess.
Where is that you feeling like you're.
second choice come in to play so that is so we were together i mean we made it exclusive two months in
um but now we've been official for two months and i went to another wedding in miami that he invited me
to and um after the wedding we got back to his apartment and that's when everything kind of blew up
in front of his friends too.
So this kind of happened by like the grace of God, honestly.
I ended up like losing my phone as soon as I got to the apartment and we have each other's
locations.
So I asked him, I was like, can I see your phone?
I need to check my location.
And he gave me the phone.
And for some reason, I went straight to his notes out.
Don't know why.
Straight to his notes up.
And then I found this message that he was writing about his ex.
his ex from five years ago.
That's when they dated five years ago,
saying like,
you're the love of my life.
Like, it would kill me if I never told you this.
Like, we can make this work.
We're doing everything that we said we always would do.
Yeah, so that I freaked out.
How long did you go to you write this note?
So it was literally two weeks before he asked me to be official.
Oh, okay.
So you were in his life, though?
I was, yeah, we were like exclusive.
We've been seeing each other.
for like eight months. It was pretty serious, but it was before we made it, he made it official.
I mean, if it was before you guys had met, then I would definitely like give a pretty long leash,
you know, in the sense that like, before you entered his life, he could be feeling alone.
And, you know, when we, when we haven't found someone who excites us or that we see potential
in, it's, you know, pretty easy to ruminate about the past. And, you know, it's, you know, pretty easy to ruminate about the past.
and glorify the past in a way that maybe isn't accurate.
Yeah, had he done that before you entered his life,
I could see why it would still be upsetting to you if that were the case,
but I could also be the one, if I'm, you know, a friend of yours,
I could be like, listen, you know, like,
everything changes when he entered his life.
But the fact that you were in his life,
and that you were dating and that you were kind of exclusive
but not committed and he was still doing that
is definitely like not great for you.
It was weird, yeah, because it's been like eight months
And, like, we, he's asking me if I loved him, blah, blah, we've had this future talks.
We've been together so much, all these trips.
And, I mean, this is after, like, a wedding and everything.
And so, and that's the thing.
He asked me to be official two weeks after writing that.
So I'm like, am I the backup plan?
But that's not just that.
So that night, I ended up checking his phone.
Yeah.
I was like, let me see your phone.
and I looked on his messages, I searched her name, and I found out he met up with her on one of his
business trips.
He was in L.A.
He met up with her.
And so I freaked out more because in front of his friends too, but I freaked out because I'm like,
I don't know, this is, we've, it's not like we've been talking for two months.
Like, if this is eight months in, we know it's a thing where we've been exclusive.
since two months.
Like he's saying like he sees the future with me and everything.
And so I found that out that he met up with her.
And he said it was for closure, which, I mean, they dated five years ago.
And he said that as soon as he saw her, the feelings were gone.
Well, that's obviously a lie.
Yeah, because, I mean, I always hear you say, guys don't need closure.
Well, no, everyone needs closure.
Well, everyone appreciates closer, but like you saw the note app and the note app was him saying he still has feelings and he wasn't looking for closure.
He was looking for reconnection.
Yeah, saying she was the one and every, exactly.
So in my mind, well, he went into that meetup thinking she's the one, thinking, yeah, she's the one.
But he told me he met up with her.
The feelings weren't there.
It was awkward, so he didn't feel the same way anymore.
So he didn't end up telling her what he wrote in that note.
But in my mind, I don't know if that's true.
She could have rejected him.
I don't know what's true.
She could have rejected him.
What's your gut tell you?
I do believe him when he says that it felt awkward
and that she wasn't the same person.
And he didn't feel the need to say what's on a note because those feelings dissipated,
he said, I kind of believe that.
I mean, I didn't know what to believe, but I'm leaning more towards that.
I don't think he actually shared the note.
Maybe he wanted to even share the note, but he was too nervous.
I could see that happening, but I don't think he confessed the feelings that he had.
But then, I mean, we were already together for two months when I found this out, like,
officially.
So this was two months prior before making it official with me.
So I was like, was I the plan B?
Like, what if you met up with her and she was exactly who you thought it would be?
Like, we already had like two weeks in two weeks from that meetup.
We had that wedding planned to go to Puerto Rico.
Like, what would have happened?
And I asked him that.
I was like, what would have happened if she was that person, like, that you remembered?
And like, would you keep talking to both of us?
Would you just cut me out?
and he just kept saying, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, which made it worse.
And we've been like at this time when I'm talking to this about like with him, we've been together for two months.
So he kept saying like, I don't know what would have happened.
I don't know what would have happened.
So.
But he wants you to promise that you will never hurt him.
Right.
Why are you thinking about moving at this stage?
That's a whole other thing.
I have a lot of questions for you, Nick.
So after that, I forgave him.
It took a while.
He made it up to me.
Like, he flew me back to Miami the next weekend because I wanted to visit my sister there anyways.
So he sent me the flight confirmation.
It was like a $900 flight and everything like that.
Why?
And that made it up?
No.
He made it up over a span of a few months.
I mean, I totally just let it go.
and since then we've been on like he's taking me on so many trips he really does treat me like gold like
I've never had to reach in my wallet once he's perfect in like every other aspect besides these little
things so he pays for shit yes but also he's good in every other way like the communication we have so much
fun together like yeah so we were in Vegas and I brought up just like a hypothetical like when do you see
us like moving in together like because we are like semi long distance and it's been like a year at that
point and he was like January 1st and I didn't really think anything of it like we were kind of drinking
whatever but the next month my life completely like turns upside down like I totaled my car and then on the
same day I got fired and evicted from my house.
Oh my gosh.
And the same day.
So what happened?
I'd like I guess same day all at once.
So that was like four months ago.
I've been staying with my friend.
But in my mind, I'm like, I need to start somewhere fresh.
And I've lived here in this small town my whole life.
I didn't want to start fresh here.
Like I finally have an opportunity to start fresh somewhere.
So I mentioned that to him.
And he would say, like, just come, like, with a plan.
Like, come, but have a plan.
And I was like, okay.
And then it's kind of me asking him, like, what are your concerns with me moving in?
And so he would go back and forth and he has, he had a bunch of concerns because he does have a roommate.
And he's never lived with a girl and things like that.
And so, yeah.
So that's where it was kind of like a month ago, but now he's more so accepted it because honestly, I kind of just came to the decision.
We came to the decision.
I feel like I don't know if I convinced him, but I am moving in two weeks to Miami to stay with him.
Okay.
I call it, I tell him, I'm just staying with him, staying with you for a few weeks until I could get a new place.
and he said he isn't like that term staying with me because it sounds like he's just my friend.
But in a way, that's what I'm doing.
I'm staying with him until I get my own apartment, which I don't think would be a big deal
because he stayed with me at my place for weeks on end.
So does he believe you that you're going to get your own apartment?
Does he support you that you're going to get your own apartment?
Yes, but he's like, he's back and forth.
How long ago was a note tap thing?
That was like eight months.
months ago now.
Okay.
But it's still lingering.
But.
Why is it lingering because you haven't gotten over it?
But or there are just some things that pop up that remind you of it?
He's never mentioned his ex ever.
That's why it came as such a surprise.
Like it was blindsiding because he's just never mentioned her.
He, that was his only, his first and only girlfriend.
But it's just kind of like I'm like, was I plan B?
Like, is that the person?
I mean, you want it.
Hard to say.
I mean, your first love, it fucks you up, it's hard to get over, you know.
I think the biggest issue is how he went about it, kind of behind your back.
It was still a relatively new relationship.
I think the most important thing is how have you guys grown from there?
Mm-hmm.
And do you feel like, do you feel like you're communicating better?
Do you feel like you're building trust, you know, in a safe space for you guys to be vulnerable
and just open up about things that are bothering you
or you're feeling insecure about.
Do you feel supported by each other?
You know, in this, you know, your current situation,
this sounds like a guy, you know, he's only 28.
So, you know, I did a lot of this stuff
that your, sounds like your boyfriend does,
which is like the idea of things,
the principle of things, the sound of things,
what it means to him, you know,
does he feel amasculated or not emasculated?
But at the end of the day, like, you know, you kind of have to have common sense.
Right now, it seems probably a little premature for you guys to move in with each other, right?
He has a roommate.
You've only been dating for less than a year.
You don't have your own place of yourself.
You're kind of in this transitional period of your life.
So there's a convenience around moving in.
But that's a, that's playing a big role in why you're quote unquote staying with him because
you kind of really don't have a place to go.
You're at your friend's house.
And deep down, you know that.
And you probably would rather, like, move in with your boyfriend under, like, more organic
conditions where it just, like, feels right, where you're both like, you've been dating
for a couple years.
And you're both like, I would really like to live with you.
And the other person's like, I would really like to live with you too.
So, like, and then you're both like, yeah, let's live with each other because it's what
what we both want to do.
Right now, that's not the situation.
You're like, you're trying to kind of convince yourself that it's okay to move in with
your boyfriend, even.
though he has a roommate and even though he's kind of not sure how he feels about you moving in.
And your boyfriend's kind of like, he wants his girlfriend to want to live with him.
But he also, you know, has his own feelings about his girlfriend needing a place to stay.
And he's having conflicting feelings, you know.
And so it's the situation that seems a bit like not ideal.
So I think it's just better be honest with yourself, you know, and who knows how things might play out, you know?
Like, for example, like when Natalie and I first started dating, she, you know, she lived in Savannah and I lived in L.A.
And, you know, we were like, all right, well, let's date. And then it was like, well, if we're going to date would, you know, I don't, I'd rather not do long distance. And it was like, are you willing, you know, she moved. She offered to get her own place. And then we thought about that. And I was like, it seems kind of silly. Because you don't really know anyone here. And I bought this house. And like, it seems like it's going to be silly. And even though, like, probably it's not something we would do.
If, if, you know, like, if we both live in the same town, you're only going to go a place, I wouldn't. So we just kind of acknowledged the reality of the situation, which is like, we probably wouldn't do this if this was in our situation. But we're going to go ahead and do it anyways, knowing that, like, we're making some exceptions. And your version of like just saying, well, you know, you're trying to be like, well, I'm just calling it staying with you. Who cares what you call it? You know, I think it's just more you guys sitting down and saying, hey, listen, I don't have a lot going on.
New York right now. I certainly don't have anything that's keeping me here. I don't even have a place.
So like it would be I'm I can move to Miami, right? And I also can move back here. And even if we're not
dating, this could be a fun experience for me. And your boyfriend, I would love him to be like,
yeah, that's right. You know, right now your boyfriend sounds like the type of guy who doesn't want to
hear that if things don't work out, this could still be a good decision for you. And that's just like
an objective reality, right? But that is like triggering for your boyfriend because he doesn't want
to think that you're even, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's like he wants you to know
without a shadow of a doubt that you'll be in love with them forever. And it's like, I don't know,
I mean, that's just not realistic, you know, that's not how relationships work. You can't,
you can't promise them anything, you know, you can promise them that to, like, you really like where it's
going and you're committed to making this work and you're willing to put in the energy and the effort
to make this relationship work as long as he's also willing to do the same, and that's all you guys can do.
So it's just like, it's just having more mature conversations around your guys' situation and just
making the other person feel like it's, it's like you can, you can move to Miami, mostly because of him,
knowing that it's not an idea, like part of the earth situation is not ideal, knowing that you
don't really have a place to go, so you probably are going to crash with him for a while,
see where it goes, but know that it's, it might be healthy to get your own place and still date
without feeling like you guys are taking a step in the wrong direction,
or having him play that at those mental games where he's just like,
part of him wants you to want to stay with him
because he wants you to want to need him
while simultaneously, like, being weird about, like,
his girlfriend staying at him and his roommate's place.
Does that make sense?
Definitely. Yeah, yeah.
And we had all these conversations too,
because when I was thinking about just staying here or going to Miami,
I really said I was like,
I honestly would move first to Miami for myself first because I could see potential there.
I, when I do visit there, I have a lot of motivation there.
I have friends there.
I want to move for me.
So that's like first.
And then, you know, obviously for the relationship too, it's been long distance.
It's been a little harder.
And then now he's at the point where we've had all these conversations.
And it's kind of me asking him his concerns.
So that's why he mentions the concerns so much.
But now he's at the point where it's like,
we'll just, we'll see what happens.
Like, we'll see one month in, we'll know if it works or not.
And he's like, you know, we might just love it so much.
You might not.
We might not want you to leave.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Yeah, I mean, listen, I think the only thing to like figure,
you just have to be able to talk through things, right?
And I, you know, as far as like the notes app and the ex-girlfriend, you know,
Uh, you know, how it went down, not ideal, but I don't think it's the end of the world. And what's,
I think what's more important is how you guys have been since. And was that like just kind of a bump in
the room for him personally that he had to kind of work through that and he needed some closure for a
relationship that maybe he pined over too much prior to meeting with you and kind of had in his
head that he would always get back together with her and just, it's definitely believable that like,
he met up with her, who knows what he wanted, but like after he met up with her, it was like,
yeah, maybe this is not what I expected. I don't think it's the end of the world, that Nautzap thing,
not ideal. And again, how was your communication since, you know? And again, you move into Miami,
as long as you, like, you're not only moving for this guy, you know, it's like, I'm not
hearing a situation where you're like, I don't even, I don't want to be there. Like,
he's the only reason I would go. And I don't even know if he wants me there. That's not what I'm
hearing. Like if you have friends there, you have a community there, you can make in a life there.
It sounds like you like the city. So if it doesn't work out, you might, there's a good chance you
won't run back to where you are now anyways. So get it out of your head that you're moving for him.
Like you're moving for yourself and he's a big part of that equation and that's exciting.
But like don't put unnecessary pressure on the move and just be open to seeing where the relationship goes,
you know. Yeah. A thing that keeps popping in my heart.
head though like sometimes i'm like what if she does text him or tries to get in contact with him and
wants him back i don't know if he's and i will i guess i won't know but i just don't know if he is
fully over that first love feeling and everything like that have you talked to him about it yeah i mean
yeah i've asked him that and obviously he's like no never like that chip sailed like she's not
the same person but i mean i guess it's just something that over time i'm
I'll have to get over.
Yeah, or just you guys will have to get through it together, you know.
I think it's more about that than you just getting over, because I think you do have the
right for it to bother you, you know, he did fuck up.
You know, he needs to be, he needs to acknowledge that he needs to help you work through
this.
Yeah.
Well, he may have made an honest mistake and maybe there's a version where it's not like so
fucked up that he did that.
It was like, yeah, you kind of, he shouldn't have done that.
And like, you know, but he needs to help you work through that and, and, and, and,
and make sure that, you know, whatever he needs to do to make you feel secure in this relationship
and that you are a big priority for him and you'll know what that is.
Before you even brought up the whole Notsap thing, you were, it sounded like a guy who,
you know, has some scars from previous relationships.
Like, it sounds like she broke his heart and that fucked him up a little bit, you know?
And that happens all of us.
I think it's just more about working on communication with them.
Yeah.
And even before the whole NOSAP thing, before we were official,
like six months in to talking,
he just randomly asked me these questions,
but he asked me if I think I'm at the person I'm going to marry me.
And every time he asked me these things randomly,
I'm caught off guard.
So I'm like, I don't know, do you?
Do you think so?
And he like kind of chuckled and he's like, yeah,
it's between two people.
And then so like remembering that.
Why does he say that?
I mean, it's kind of fucked up.
Yeah.
He said it kind of like.
a joke, I guess. I mean, we weren't talking about future. That's definitely not something
to a joke about considering how, you know, you hurt you regarding his ex. I mean, I just think
you have the right to be like, that's not a joke. It's like, if you don't know the answer,
fine. That's, but like putting me on the spot and then like fucking with me. Like, I don't know.
Like, he seems to want you to almost feel insecure in a way. That's the vibe he kind of gives
some of his action. In some ways. In some ways. Yeah. In some ways. But yeah, that's,
That was before.
That was like only like three months into talking to him when he said that.
Oh, that was before the notes app.
Yeah.
Oh.
Yeah.
This was three months into talking.
I wasn't bringing up any timeline, married kids, anything.
He was bringing those things up.
And that's when he said that.
And I mean, we weren't talking about our future yet.
So it just kind of took me by surprise.
But it's something to note now after knowing what ended up happening with the notes app that he was probably serious.
It's probably, he was probably serious.
Yeah, there was definitely some truth to it.
She was definitely lingering in his mind.
One of his other concerns about me moving in is he does have his own business and he works
from home with his roommate.
His roommate is his, like he works for him.
The roommate works for my boyfriend.
So they're just kind of always in the living room working.
So he was worried about like, you know, the voice.
vibes being off and workflow being affected and all of the stuff, which are valid concerns.
And we've talked about that.
He's fine with that now.
That's just like a logistic thing, you know.
Yeah.
But his other concerns, like that he would mention afterwards would be, he would say, like,
are you using me just to get to Miami?
Or he keeps saying, like, are you just going to meet a billionaire and leave me?
A billionaire?
Yeah.
And then I mentioned when I first get there, I brought up, like, I want to get a job as soon as possible.
Like, I'll work at, you know, a little restaurant or something at first until I can get an actual job in my career.
But he's specifically, he's like, no, you're not working at any of those places.
He's like, I'd rather just, and he keeps mentioning even before I decided to move to Miami.
He's like, when you come to Miami, I'm going to get you at Equinox membership.
kept saying that, which I never even mentioned.
I don't even have one.
He doesn't have one.
But yeah, he's like, I would rather you just stay home and not work and I'll get your
Equinox membership and you just stay home.
You're not working at Moxies or any restaurant like that.
I mean, listen, it sounds like you guys both have some insecurities about each other.
And it sounds like you guys need to work on that.
And I think you guys, I think have a way of poking.
other and testing each other's insecurities and make you guys feel, make each other feel more.
You know, it's just like if you're insecure, you see how he reacts.
You poke the bearer and then you see if he reacts in the way you want.
And that's not a healthy way of working through insecurities.
The healthy way is saying, I'm a little insecure about this.
You know, I am a little insecure about, you know, you coming to Miami and seeing, you know,
more, you know, maybe more established successful men like win you away from me.
You know, that's an honest thing.
have your own insecurities about like things he might you know and you you guys should just
should be able to talk about that and then the other person should be the one saying listen it's not
how I feel I really care about you and you're the person I want to be with you guys can't promise
the future you know but you can promise like you're the person I'm really in committed to working on
this with and you guys have to both be vulnerable enough to know that like yeah like you know relationships
are risk and and you're risking your feelings but you guys are you guys are you guys are
are testing each other in a way that it feels a little toxic and you know and I think there's
probably a healthier approach to you guys working through some of your insecurities and it sounds
like you both have some as as many people in relationships do and I think you guys need to just do
a better job of addressing those insecurities without poking the bear and testing the other person
you know yeah definitely more adult conversations yeah well current day um so current day now he's
being like like I said he he knows it's a thing now that I'm going in two weeks and he says he wants
me there and he's ready to do that part of the relationship and so he's been planning on going to
the Super Bowl for a whole year now and he's been telling me this for the whole year he's been
planning to go to the Super Bowl because he works in that field so he's been planning to do that
to network and I just found out my moveout date last month.
Okay.
When I have to be out of my friend's house.
So I just found that out last month.
And that's exactly when he would be going to the Super Bowl.
But he was, and then he's been super supportive.
And he said, here's what I'm going to do.
I'm just going to cancel going to the Super Bowl completely.
And I'm going to come to New York, help you move out yourself.
And do you want them?
Is that an expectation you have?
Did he already have tickets?
In this situation, I guess I don't know the right answer, and I don't think there's a bad answer.
But I think the question is, is, you know, could you move without his help?
You know, you're not moving.
You're probably what, bringing a couple of suitcases because like you said, you're staying there, you know.
He might travel.
Exactly.
I'm not moving any stuff.
He might, you know.
Or are you doing it to see if he's willing to do it for you is like a test of the relation.
You know what I'm saying?
It's stuff like that that you guys have to try to avoid.
So it's just like, it.
If deep down, he has tickets and he has plans and, you know, you don't mind him taking a trip to the boys of Super Bowl, then, you know, there's a world where you say, hey, listen, like, obviously, I would love your help and I appreciate your help, you know.
And if you don't really want to go to the Super Bowl, by all means, I would, like, I could use the help.
But I also, like, I know you really want to go.
And if this is something you want to do, like, I can figure it out.
It's not the end of the world.
I have some friends, like my girlfriends, whatever, and just will celebrate me, like,
moving when you're back from the Super Bowl.
Like, again, it's just, it's just about having the mature conversation
without, like, using it as some sort of, like,
everything isn't a test about how much you guys love or don't love each other.
You know, like, getting your partner to do something,
just because to prove it doesn't, like, do anything.
Now, that being said, like, if, you know, if you really, like, deep down,
be like, I really need his help and I really, you know, and like, whatever,
You just have to like be honest with yourself about what you really need from your partner and what you don't need and be willing to like know that they have friends and other things they want to do and not everything they do without you is a threat to your relationship and how they feel about you. And like you guys have to like, you know, focus on those kind of thoughts and feelings. Does that make sense?
Yeah, completely. And I didn't even meant I didn't ask him to do that. I didn't want him to do that. I already planned for my mom to come and help me.
But he's the one that insisted on doing that.
And what did you say, though?
I said, well, at first, I was like, no, I can't let you do that.
You've been planning this for a year.
And then he's like, you're my person.
I want to be there for you.
Like, I'm going to do that.
So I didn't push any further.
Okay.
Well, I mean.
So he's, yeah.
I'm not saying the right off, but there could have been a response to be like,
whether you go to the Super Bowl or not, I'm still your person.
And I really appreciate your offering.
But like, I will be.
okay. So like, you know, like you don't want to make someone do something you think they could
resent in the future. You may be not go to the super blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, it's just like,
just make sure he's not doing this because you kind of like low key guilted him into doing this.
You know, it's like, oh, I didn't ask them, but like maybe you've made comments. I don't know.
Like, you know, it's just like you know how you guys communicate. I just think you should be supporting
each other, you know, healthy, not passive aggressive comments and things like that. And it sounds like you
guys have a way of, as many couples do, having a way of testing the other person when you guys
are feeling insecure about where you guys stand. And I think there's a healthier way is to go about
communicating your insecurities about things. And like lead by example, like do the thing for him
that you want him to do for you. So if you want him to act securely attached, as they say,
when it comes to attachment styles, then you should lead by example in a sense, you know. If you get,
He's like, listen, I don't really want to go to the Super Bowl.
It's not the end of the world.
Yeah, I've been planning it.
But, like, honestly, my team lost.
And it's just, like, a bunch of money that honestly I'd rather save.
And honestly, this could be a really exciting start for us.
And I really want to do this.
Then great.
But, like, just make sure he wants to do it and make sure, like, without.
And, you know, don't let him be like, well, you don't want me there.
You know, it's just like, no, of course I want you there.
I just, like, I know this is important to you.
And I know I can, I can do this without you.
And I don't want you to miss something for me.
me that I, you know, of course I'd love your help. Of course it'd be better with you. But I just want to
make sure that I'm not causing, I don't want me moving to Miami to, you know, inconvenience you or
stop you from doing the things that you want to do. And like, you know, this isn't, this isn't some
like random night out to the clubs that he didn't have planned. This is like something, as you say,
he's been planning for a year. So. Exactly. Yeah. I definitely need to have another combo with
him about that because yeah i feel guilty and i don't want him to resent me and i don't want him to
that's a huge thing yeah we'll be okay i know like this you going to the super bowl or not going
the super bowl doesn't change us being you know doesn't change you be not being my person and i
really appreciate your willingness to do that and it means a lot that you would be willing to do that
but it's it's also like i want you to go if you want to go and i'll be okay and let's so you know
like there's other ways to celebrate that it's just trying to have healthy conversations
The big thing is not testing each other in ways.
Yeah, absolutely.
So now he's, yeah, so now where we are, again, he's saying, like, we're two weeks away
from what we wanted six months ago.
I didn't picture it, like, picture us living with the roommate, though, but like, I want
you here and it's going to be great.
So now I'm getting that support.
That was kind of lacking in the beginning when I was asking him what he thinks about
me making that choice
but I mean again I was
more so asking him for concerns
not you know the positives or
I don't know
so I guess it's already decision so
but yeah but your mindset
and how you approach this will go a long way
again if don't put on necessary pressure
on the relationship that it doesn't need
don't test it when it doesn't need to be tested
when you're feeling insecure
just address the insecurity and
ask for his help rather than passive-aggressively, like, throw out a question that has a
right or wrong answer in your mind and the right answer means he loves you and the wrong
answer means maybe he doesn't. You know, like try to try to avoid that. The childish stuff, yeah.
Well, one last question to you is, do you think that I was essentially of the plan B? No,
probably not. I mean, no. I think it's very believable that this was a woman who was as
first and only love.
That is a, that fucks us all up when that happens.
Maybe he never really got the closure he thought he had.
And you entering his life kind of like made him wonder like is, you know,
and kind of can, he had some maybe some confused feelings about her.
Usually, for God, for example, like, I mean, that's not a one for one situation.
But when I and I were dating but not together, you know, we were dating other people.
You know, we stopped talking at times.
but like when there were times where I was like,
I don't think I can date her and I need to move on from talking to Natalie.
And so then I would try to date other people.
That would just kind of make me miss Natalie,
remind me of Natalie.
And I think if this guy really had feelings for this other person,
like he just,
he would almost kind of get,
not the ick from you,
but like it would just,
it would be harder and harder for him to develop feelings for you
because of that comparison,
if that makes sense.
So I think it's probably,
I think it's,
I think there's a really good chance that he was confused about her.
Maybe, like, wrote in the notes app, and he had this idea and maybe never did anything with
it.
And yeah, maybe went out to LA and looked her up.
And it's a very believable story he's telling you.
Obviously, he went about in a way that, like, broke and violated your trust.
But you're, you know, the way you talk, it sounds like you guys do have a lot of positive
interactions and there's a lot of good things about this relationship.
And I just, no one, put it this way.
No one wants to feel like they're settling.
So if he felt like you were a backup plan,
I don't think he would be moving forward with you.
Mm-hmm.
Because it's not just you or her in this world.
If he felt like you weren't enough to get over her,
I think he would move on from you.
Mm-hmm.
So, yeah, I don't think you're a backup plan to her.
I think you're just part of,
she's part of his story,
and we all have a story.
You have a past, you know.
And, you know, that was him processing that loss.
But I do think he probably could mature a little bit in how he process his loss.
And he probably has some lingering hurt from how that all went down.
But I don't think that means he's in love with her or misses her or thinks she's the one.
Yeah.
There's a separate thing, though.
His roommate's a little younger.
He's a little insecure.
He's a little younger.
He's on the heavier side.
He feels like he can't really get girls, his roommate, the guy that works for him.
Okay.
And so my boyfriend has told me.
that he occasionally hires prostitutes, huckers,
and that they have came to the apartment.
My boyfriend is sleeping, he wouldn't have known.
He finds it out later, but then, yeah.
And my boyfriend assured me that would never happen
if I'm living there, but I'm, like, creeped out by that whole thing.
That's fair.
I mean.
Side notes, prior to becoming official, like,
Four months into talking to my boyfriend's, you know, we were talking and he was telling me
about the previous job he had where he was working for someone still in the same, like,
sports industry. And they were, you know, on an island somewhere. And they were with, like,
basketball players and everything. And they hired a bunch of, I don't even know what I could say
on this podcast. They hired a bunch of prostitutes, right? And,
my boyfriend was there. And this was, I guess, like five years ago probably. He was 22. And I kind of got it out of him. He was at my house. I kind of got it out of him. I was like, did you sleep with one? Like, you could tell me, I kind of gaslit him into it. You could tell me I'm not going to think of you any differently. Like, did you sleep with one? And he would kept saying, no, no, no. Then I again, gaslit him into it. I was like, I know you did. And then finally he admitted he was like,
find one he did one and like I threw my pillow at him and like kind of kicked him out of my house and
I was like that's disgusting and I needed a couple days to think about it like because my morals that was
just disgusting so I needed that was before we were even official but so that was one of the things
that happened so those between those two things those two things are the only things that have
went wrong so far. But another one of my concerns is he travels a lot for work. Um,
and he, like, when he travels, he stays in hotels with his roommate and his other coworker
who also dabbles in that kind of thing, like on the regular. I mean, listen, I, you know,
listen, you, it's, it definitely is gross. Um, you, it's come, do you trust your boyfriend, you know,
um, not an ideal situation, but like, as you know, as you know, as you know,
know you're not planning on staying there and let that reality be the fact that like makes you
not get too comfortable playing roommates with your boyfriend and his roommate and get your own
place as soon as possible. But like, you know, make it clear. It's just like, you know,
obviously is you living with your boyfriend with a boy guy roommate, regardless of his
appetite for sex workers, uh, isn't ideal regardless, right? So in the meantime, you could yeah,
politely ask for him not to do that and have your boyfriend try to enforce that and,
hopefully your boyfriend recognizes that, like, you know, if he is going to have his girlfriend,
like, moving with his roommate, then he needs to create an atmosphere and environment that she feels
safe, you know, and that's part of, you know, I think that's a fair expectation for you to have.
You're going to have to ask yourself, if this is a reflection of who he is today, or is it like,
you know, did he do something gross and learn from it?
Put it this way.
If he was my roommate, I'd been like, dude, do what you want.
You can't do that shit here.
Because he's the boss, too.
Yeah, he could probably, yeah, I would.
If I'm you, I would expect him to put a stop to it.
Yeah, but the thing is to, yeah, they like, when they travel for work, he has a bunch of different.
He can't get his own hotel room?
He does.
Well, he shares the usually hotel room with his roommate.
You know, why not save money, whatever.
But.
Save money and not hire a prostitute.
Yeah.
He says that the roommate and the other worker doesn't hire prostitutes during those times.
I just, it's, again, I guess I just have to trust him.
because he does travel a lot for work, all different sorts of places.
When he stays in these hotels and it's just I never would have thought he was that type of guy.
So in my mind it's kind of like, yes, he was 22, but you've done it once.
And then you are surrounding yourself with people that continue to do it.
And they go to the casino and drink and everything too after work.
like so it's like i mean i guess i don't know i don't think you fully trust your boyfriend the way you
would hope to how do i is that something that time will build or more like communication i don't
you know like he i i think if you feel like somebody doesn't trust you people go out of your way to
like be transparent and open so that it makes it easy for people to trust you you know if he should
care that like that bothers you to the point where he's showing you that it doesn't
bother you anymore.
Do you think it's concerning?
I think there's some red flags.
Should I be concerned?
With that behavior, yeah, for sure.
I don't think him doing it five years ago is that is the end of the world or whatever
it was when he was 22.
I think it's a little weird that he's pretty casual about his roommate bringing sex
workers over.
Yeah, I wouldn't.
Yeah.
He said it happened like once.
Okay.
Well, is that, do you believe that?
I mean, I don't know what to believe because I'm like, where does he find them?
Because I know there's these websites.
in the apps or whatever.
My boyfriend just says, I don't know,
I don't know, I don't know.
So he doesn't tell me extra information.
Listen, there's definitely some red flags with it,
but I don't think it's,
I think you just have to ask more questions
and I think you guys have to communicate better.
And I think right now,
I think you guys are a little bit more passive,
aggressive in your communication
rather than just direct and vulnerable.
You're like, always trying to figure out
the right way to ask and you guys test each other.
And you can just be like, listen,
that bothers me.
But again, like, just try not to do the whole, like, it's fine.
I won't judge you and then freak out, you know, like you have to find a way to be like,
I would really like you to be honest with me.
And I feel like you did that.
And can we just talk about it?
And like, a great way to like get trust in a relationship is to say, like, listen, I can't
promise that you're not, you might get upset me and I might upset you.
And we have to be okay with allowing each other from time to time to upset the other person.
and then the other person can't just flip out and name call, whatever, you can get mad and be
like, I'm really upset with you right now, but like, let's, I'm, you know, you're going to have to allow me to be
angry, but I'm not leaving you, and I'm not like going to name call you. And like, let's see if we
can work through this. I'm not saying it's your, but like when you do the thing that's like,
hey, you can trust me, you can trust me, you can tell me anything. And then he tells you the truth.
And then you do exactly the opposite. You promised him. You, you're not.
sending a healthy precedent or Elaine for him to be honest with you in the future.
That's when you get the whole like, well, I didn't tell you the truth because I didn't want to
upset you know, but you have the right to be upset, but how you handle those emotions, like,
you know, it's like you got to find a healthier balance to like for you guys to communicate
your frustrations and work through your frustrations without triggering the other person.
Cool.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
Well, good luck with the mood.
again, like you're moving. It doesn't necessarily mean anything. It's just a, it's a part of your life.
You know, he's a big part of the reason why you're moving. He's not the only reason. Whether you guys
end up together won't be because you're destined together or what you guys promised each other today,
it'll be the work you guys put into it. And whether you guys are willing to work through whatever,
like, incompatibilities your, incompatibilities or insecurities you have. And are you guys
prioritizing, you know, making the other person feel less anxious, more than more anxious.
Are you going on your way to calm them rather than trigger them, you know, are you, you know,
and things like that, you know, and then hoping the other person does the same thing. That's,
that's what will matter. It won't be, you know, some of the stuff that you guys are focusing on
right now. Definitely. I guess we're just going to have to see how it goes. All right.
Thank you so much, Nick. My pleasure. Good luck. Keep us posted how it all goes.
All right. All right. Definitely well. All right. Bye. Bye.
