The Viall Files - E1000 - Liza Treyger Returns, Emmys Glambot Recap w/ Cole Walliser, Dakota’s Bach Posts, RHOSLC, RHOC & RHOM

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

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What's going on, everybody. Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files reality recap edition. I'm your host, Nick, joined by my wife, Natalie. I hope you're having a great week so far wherever you are and however you are enjoying it. We got a great episode lined up for you. today. Lisa Trager returns to the show to get into all things pop culture, real housewives of OC, Miami, all of the above. Also joining us shortly, Cole Walliser joins the show. You know him as the glam bot guy with amazing, beautiful hair. He's the one who invented the

glam bot machine. You've seen him on all the red carpets doing all those cool glam bot moments with all your favorite celebrities. He was once again at the Emmys. So we'll have him join us shortly to talk about his experience as the Glambach guy. I'm sure he's had a lot of interesting interactions with some A-list celebrities, all of the above. He's basically shot everyone who's ever been to a red carpet. So he certainly has some interesting stories. All of that, this episode and more. Also this week, we got Jesse James Decker and her husband, Eric Decker, joining us this Wednesday for a special Going Deeper episode. They're on the upcoming season of Special Forces. They joined as husband and wife.

They certainly have a very fascinating, interesting dynamic, and they are, we're excited to have them to learn about their relationship, how they make it work as public figures. Fascinating people, and we are fascinated and excited to have them. That is this Wednesday, also Thursday. Nina Parker returns to the show, plus many more exciting guests, all that this week. Well, that's a crazy week lined up, but we had a crazy weekend this past weekend. Yeah, we went to Las Vegas just for one night because that's honestly all you. really need to go to Vegas for one night, in and out. I don't know what psychopaths go for more

than 24 hours, but you can only go for one night. We had a really good time. We were brought out by our friends at Netflix. They hosted us, generously hosted us as they had the fight of the decade, as it was named. Canelo versus Crawford? Panello versus Crawford. We're not necessarily, I've never been to a fight match before. As a sports fan in general, I wanted to go. It was a lot of fun, a lot of cool energy. Didn't know. It was Mexican Independence Day. Canello is from Mexico, so obviously a lot of his fans were there in support of him. Very like just electric crowd. Crawford. He won. So congratulations, Mr. Omaha, Nebraska. He, but also, like, these were two undefeated fighters. It was certainly epic. A lot of celebrities were out. We got to see some,

really. I got to shake the hand of Michael Irvin, which was kind of fun. Saw Shalise, they're on. I think we noticed each other. I was going to go say hi. her. And then I didn't. I pitched Adam Brody to come on the show. Yeah, we pitched Adam Brody. Love that. I talked to Josh Dumel for some time. Talk to Josh Dumel. Yeah, about having kids. Yep. It was honestly, and listen, I have also never been to a fight before. And I've also, I feel like maybe we, we watched the Jake Paul, Mike Tyson one. It's like Mike Tyson iconic, you know, we watched it at home. He was also there. But this was like really cool. And I feel like it's going to be, yeah, one of the fights that's talked about, you know, you hear about like Floyd Mayweather and like all of these

like really great boxers and like, like you hear about these iconic fights like years and years decades later. So I'm like, oh, I wonder if this will be one of those fights and we'll be able to tell River like, we were there. We were there. And listen, if you give me somebody to root for, I will be rooting. And I picked Crawford and I was so into it. And I was like yelling at people to sit down and it was fun. I had a lot of fun. What is like the setup when you go to one of these things? Like are you guys like in a section with Netflix? Is it like you go to a box? Well, yeah, Netflix hosted it. And it was at the Allegiance Stadium like the Los Vegas Raiders new stadium. So that was pretty cool. I'd never been inside that stadium before. Yeah. I mean,

they had a section before the fight because obviously like a for like a concert for those of you have never been to like a fight. They have, you know, you go to a concert. They have like a aspiring artists opening up for like the headline guests. So it's like usually like a crowd with like as much smaller crowds. The fights will start hours before the main event, so to speak. Started at six and then Canello and Crawford didn't fight till not. So while we were there, yeah. We were in a section that was like hosted by Netflix.

The CEO of Netflix was there. You know, a lot of fancy people. Our friend Peter Schrager, a friend of show was there as well. Got to see him. So yeah, we just hung out. They had caviar on chicken fingers. I was going to ask. I manifested that one for you.

Because like the U.S. Open, like are we getting boxes? You didn't try it? I had the chicken. Natalie. Skipped over the calves. You should have, that's when you take it for us. You went straight for the chicken fingers. Although I will say I did yell at a man before it was like one of the early fights.

And we were like, let's just go ahead and get our seats. So we went down and Netflix had, I guess, like, you know, like floor seats or whatever was, I guess, necessarily like the pit. And so, you know, front row is like Shirley's Theron and Mike Tyson and all those. We're row nine. Like, we were row nine. So we're a couple rows back. Very good. But still really good.

And then like four rows back from us was this man and his son, his son was like 25. And Nick was taking a video of something. And he was like, so Nick was like standing recording and the guy for like a second. And the guy was like, aye, I, sit down. I. And so I turned around. I was like, he's just video. Like they have screens everywhere.

So I was like, he's just videoing. He sat down a second. And he was like, I can't see. And I was like, look at the screen. You like, that's what happened. You know, when someone's standing, you can't watch right there. So you look at the screen. And then when they sit down, you look back at, you know, it's just like.

And he was like, no, I like it live. And I was like, well, then get better seats, you know? Like if you don't want, get front row, sir. If you don't want anyone standing in front of you, you can't yell at everyone. It was an Irish fighter he was rooting from. He was from Ireland. So support his boy. But then later that fight in the main event, the people right in front of us were standing up

in front of Natalie who had to ask them to sit down and then Natalie turned around and apologized to the man that she was getting a little sassy with. So, you know, it's just humans being humans, you know? So you guys did look really hot. I was going to comment from the Vile Files account to say mommy and daddy, but I don't know if that was appropriate. You should have.

Totally appropriate, for sure. I think it would have been really funny. What a love. And we gamble a little bit, lost $1,000. So we have this rule that, you know, I'll gamble a few bucks. Then if I win, Natalie gets a purse. I didn't win.

Yeah, and they kept being like, all in, all in. I'm like, whoa, let's go slow. Let's not lose it all quickly. He said, and I'll pick with my eyes closed. At first, I won $500, like, in the first 10 minutes, like, of gambling. And then I stopped, and then, you know, and then I came back and then lost it all. What are we playing? Blackjack.

Yeah. Crap. There's no game called crabs. It's not crabs. It's craps. Crapes. Is it not? It's not crabs.

It's crabs. With the TV. I thought people just had a list No, just me It was fun We were playing Blackjack That was the only thing

We played Well, I didn't play Nick played I don't really You know I don't understand numbers So you said I just watch

Stay Well that sounds like A lot of fun Yeah I've never been to Vegas Yeah thanks for Training us right Netflix You know

We appreciate the invite Well said we see Did we see anyone else We saw James Harden And Russell Westbro We did Oh Angel Reese Yeah

Saw Angel Reese Oh my god My girl Angel Reese Huge She was right behind us walking out of the fight Oh my god

You should have been like I stand with you And not the Chicago Sky Organization front of house I do feel like I am I'm not sure I don't I don't know I don't know

I feel like they're kind of Against each other I'm team everybody I'm team good rivals I feel like Well her and Caitlin Clark are good rivals What's happening with Angel

Reese is basically Like the Chicago Sky Front of House Like keeps firing everybody And everyone's like You guys suck Famously everyone knows that And then Angel Reese was like

Yeah I mean She was in an interview and they would like ask her about the front of house and she was like yeah I mean there's a lot going on you was at front of house what do you mean what is that like they're like organization the front office like whatever the front office whatever gotcha and um the front office and she was kind of just like yeah there's a lot going on it's like a little chaotic I hope like we can figure stuff out and then the front office was like find her and wouldn't suspended her for a game and everyone was like bro so she'd

She did not look down in the dumps at the fight. She looked stunning. Green Bay Packers are too now for anyone who cares. I think they're really, really good. You Chicago Bears fans, what a bummer. Do they suck? Well, they're famous for winning the off season and losing the regular season. They're O and two.

Their new coach used to be the offensive coordinator of the Detroit Lions, who the Packers recently beat up on pretty bad. And then in week two, the Lions embarrassed the Chicago. Bears and their new coach, formerly their offensive coordinator, and their savior, Caleb Williams, kind of sucks. Anyway, very exciting for me, Packer fans. Not so exciting for the Bears fans out there, but another week of football in the books. Well, coming up, releasing October 1st, another season of Love is Blind.

This time they're out of Denver. What cities have we done for Love is Blind? We had, what was the first city? Did they even do a city in the first season or was it random? Atlanta was season one, Chicago, season two, Dallas season three, Seattle season four, Houston season five, Charlotte, North Carolina, season six, D.C., season seven, and then Minneapolis, Minnesota was last season. Okay.

Minneapolis was a little Midwest. Yeah, it's a little boring. Hopefully the people of Denver a bit more toxic. Hard to go. I mean, they've released the whole cast. has a bunch of people, half of which will probably never see on the show. I mean, I love when they're still in the pods

and getting to know everyone and their conversations that they have. Yeah. I do, yeah. I do love that part. Because I like them getting to know each other and the love triangles that form. What's your favorite part?

I guess. I feel like my favorite part is the when they go on the honeymoon and then it's like, oh, let me see the person that I almost picked for the first time. And like, are they better looking than the person that I think. I feel like it's always like a little bit.

That episode is always my favorite, the one where, like, everybody comes back together. Yeah. Apparently, there's a guy who admits to eating his boogers on this season. Yeah, I think. What's his name? Edmund, I think. Edmond, yeah. They released that video of them introducing themselves.

And he did say that a fun fact, fun fact about him is that he eats his boogers. A little more concerned for the women. Yeah. Why? I don't know. He's a 10, but he eats his boogers. Like, these odds. I think they all eat them.

He just admitted it. And made it his thing. Who all eats them. Yeah. Speak for yourself, please. I mean, I'll pick my nose, but eating, I haven't done that since I was six. I feel like Natalie's told me you flick your boogers on a wall or something. That's not the same as eating them.

It's also one thing to do it in private, but to say it, like, that's just something I didn't need to know about you. It's not one thing to do it in private. It's both are foul. Well, both are foul, but I would rather not know. Like, it's not an icebreaker, you know what I mean? Like, it's not giving like PSA where, like, the girl's going to be like, oh my God, you do that? too. Yeah, I'm like, it's giving Fregly from Diary of a Wimpy Kid.

It's not relatable. Yeah. It's just kind of gross. Well, he still deserves love. And then we had a British man in there, right? It was Deo, I think, British? British in Denver. He's going to get a lot of hits just for that accent.

Well, that season kicks off October 1st. We'll certainly be covering it and talking all about it when it kicks off. Dakota, the ex of our new batchret, Taylor Frankie, Paul, has spoken out. And he has been in our comments verifying that he has not been trying to get on the show and he will not appear on the next season of The Bachelorette, which is probably the right thing. Definitely for the Bachelorette. But he also seems to be at least taking it in stride, having some fun online about

his former partner now being the new lead of Bachelor Nation. So what did he right here? What was this video? Oh, he did the same Oh, he did the same thing So maybe he's gonna be The Bachelor Good for him Yeah

That's a good way to go about it He captioned that Is this how it works To be the next Bachelor It's a joke Everyone relax That being said I am happy for Tay

And I hope she finds happiness No matter what Oh that was very nice of him Aw And his emoji use was sweet It was the heart With little tape over it And him

Aw Yeah A healed heart A healed heart I think it's fun I still think he's gonna be On the season of Bachelor No, you don't think so?

I mean, there might be like a cameo of some kind. I still doubt it because like unless you are bringing him on to pursue Taylor, I think there's too much sensitivity around that relationship. If you're, you know, it's not, you're not going to like bring him on as. Like to get his approval. To get his approval or his opinion. I think there are still feelings there that are very raw. And so if you're going to like, because let's be honest, like bringing him on.

is going to mess with Taylor's experience. And that's not to say that the producers of the show don't always mess with the leads experience for the sake of good TV. The juice needs to be worth a squeeze, right? So if he's not showing up to at least pursue her or, you know, profess his love and ask for, like, another chance, yeah,

just to come on and what? Like, awkwardly, you know, bring the kids or whatever. Like, that's not worth making it. her experience less enjoyable and getting in her head and, you know, if he's not going to show up to say, I love you and how can we make this work? And, you know, if he's not willing to do that, there's no point of bringing him on. That's a good point considering Jen's season, the guy that came back was a dud. Like, he was a one episode. Like, it was a cool clip, but like, other than that, he didn't even get a rose. He was sent home. So, like, what was the point? A cool teaser more so

than it was a cool clip. That's a thing. Like, it was, yeah. And I, again, I think if they do that, I think that's just lazy producing by The Bachelors. I mean, sometimes they're working with nothing. They don't have a lot of entertaining people. But again, if you're going to cast Taylor Frankie Paul, like, you already have a head start. Make sure you cast good men that are willing to pursue Taylor. Taylor, with her dynamic personality, should help deliver plenty of drama. You're going to have plenty of men who are going to want to pursue her, who are going to fall for her.

I've also seen a lot of discourse online about, like, leaving your kids for 10 weeks to film a reality TV show is trying to shame her. And while I think The Bachelor is a lot different than Love Island, just because I think Taylor will, she's able to ask for things, right? Like, she's a priority. So she's able to be like, yeah, I'll do this if you hire a nanny and you bring my kids and my kids are able to be with me all the time. You know, like, she can negotiate whatever she wants. with her children. And I think it's just so bizarre that like women are trying to come for these other women while it's like, if this was a man, like they wouldn't be, you know, it wouldn't be the same conversation. There wouldn't be like maturing is realizing single dads, like, would leave their kids to go find love.

It's like that just wouldn't ever be opposed. But it's like I've seen so many women being like Taylor's a bad mom. She's leaving her kids to go find love. It's not worth it. like she also has her phone i'm like i'm sure she has she has her family that also helps out with the kids she's got her co-parents like i'm like it's it's not like these kids are being left on their own for this experience wait wait wait revelation Dakota's for sure in the season he's going to be at the family like hometowns no no they don't have they're not going to

daddy's exes yeah but they meet her family don't they yeah he's not her family she has a mom and a stepdad and sister like but he has to be one of them I feel like How does he have to be one of them? That's so weird. I don't think he is. You're not giving Taylor a fair chance at finding love. I mean, again, like it's already, it's already an inauthentic process. Whatever you're feeling in that world, it's hard to trust those feelings because it's a manufactured

environment with the stakes being raised. So you really have to give your lead a chance to like really discover their feelings. And if you're constantly distract, I mean, there's, we all love drama. But again, if Dakota is not. not willing to say, give me another chance, I love you, whatever I have to do to like sit, you know, bring our family back together. If he's willing to do that and he really believes it and he stands by it, by all means, like that's part of her story. But just to like bring him on to awkwardly be there only to make Taylor feel uncomfortable and the men that

she's pursuing is not it. Or it would be just like a, she would go back to him for like comfort reasons, you know? It's like if he showed up and he's the only one that she knows out of all these men, it would kind of give a little like Rachel and Clayton like perfect match. You know, like they're in this environment. They don't know anyone else. They have each other. They kind of like just fall into each other's lap because they're like, oh, this is what's comfortable and this is what I know best. It's not really giving her a fair. I agree. I agree. I was thinking more like I'm a mother and I have a kid and this is the person that I'm always going to be attached to like co-parenting with. And it seems like Dakota is supportive. So I don't know. Maybe I'm the bad person

here. No, no, no, no. There's no bad idea in brainstorming Justin. It makes sense with like how you're thinking about it. Let's just say when he ends up on the season,

I'm the inside source this time. Nick did it the first time. Justin said, allegedly, he will be there. Well, up next, straight from the Emmy red carpet. Cole Walliser is with us. You know him is the glam bot guy.

He also has beautiful flowing hair. He was live on the red carpet. He's on every red carpet that Hollywood ever has and he's here to share about his experiences and all the interesting interactions he's had with some of the biggest names in Hollywood. That's up next. Also this episode, Lisa Traeger returns to the Vial Files and talk about all things. Bravo. We'll get into some Real Housewives of OC or Real Housewives of Miami. Talk about the upcoming season of the

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Cole, welcome to the show. What's up, guys? Thanks for having me. Yeah, great to be with you. Very cool moment for us. I mean, you're famously known as the Glambot guy also. I like to say the guy with just amazing, gorgeous hair. I'll take either of those descriptions, statements.

Before we let you go, we're definitely going to have to know your hair routine. But you are obviously known as the glam-bought guy. You invented the machine yourself, right? Like, this is your baby, your invention? No, this is a common misconception. This rig is used in food commercials. So when they see a taco break in half and the camera like whips around and it's all food porn sexy, that's what this system is used for.

We just took that system and adapted it to shoot talent people on the red carpet. So like a new application, but not like an invention, if that makes it. Oh, okay. All right. So you tweaked a current invention, but you made it for the red carpets. What was the first red carpet you ever did? Oh, the 2016 Emmys. So like next year is going to be 10 years.

Wow. What a place to start, though. Yeah. Yeah, crazy. And how did you get that meeting? Did you have to like pitch somebody? like, how did you present it to be like, hey, I think this could fit on red carpets and capture some really cool moments? It was, I came, I came in just as a director sort of after

an initial test. So there was a camera. So E used to do this like 360 camera thing. It was this giant rig, sort of like a bullet time thing. And it was really cool, but you'd have to like pull a talent like off of the carpet, like to another space. It was just sort of like logistically difficult. And then they were looking for like a new technology to do something cool. And this came across their plate. They did a test. And then they're like, okay, well, we need a director to direct this. We want someone that has shot beauty, right? Because it's obviously like everybody's looking gorgeous. Someone that has worked with movement. And I directed a bunch of like dance-based things early in my career. And then someone that's worked with like A-listers. And at that point,

I directed videos for like Pink and Katie Perry and share and stuff. So I sort of checked all these boxes as a director. And they're okay, like, good to meet with Cole. They brought me in. We talked about it. And then since then we've sort of been like developing and having it grow to kind of be what the thing it is today. That's great. You've obviously, like you mentioned, have gotten to shoot some pretty much every A-list celebrity possible from Taylor Swift to Brad Pitt.

I mean, the list goes on and on. You shot Nick and I. Yeah. We've done one. I also, like, it's, I find it when I, when I first got to do it is that the Golden Globes a few years back, and I felt like I bombed it. Like, I felt like I was kind of awkward about. it i didn't know what to do have you do you have some like best and worse moments uh from celebrities

who like just couldn't quite get it right and then others who absolutely nailed it i definitely have some bests um i won't say there's some worse but obviously there's a variation in how good some of these things are yeah it's it's tricky like yeah i think like by and large though you know like a celebrity that's on the red carpet it's like a they're generally like if we're talking like traditional celebrities. They're media train, camera train. They're styled to perfection. Their hair makeup's done perfectly.

And they're there sort of like they know how it goes, right? And then for me, shooting in slummo, like slummo is always really cool. So there's a lot of things in our favor that make this thing go well. And it isn't sort of always necessary to do some big crazy move. Sometimes the subtle ones kind of work out. They have a certain kind of magic to it that's sort of a little unanticipated, right? But that isn't to say that like sometimes it becomes challenging.

The hardest thing, too, is like finding the camera. with your eyes sometimes if you're trying to do like a spin and you look the wrong way in slow motion you look like you're just kind of crazy because it takes forever for your eyes to sort of adjust so that'll sort of like misrepresents you a little bit but I don't know like why why did you think yours didn't work so well I can't think of it I felt like I was just trying to do too much like you kind of said I feel like sometimes in these moments less is more and I think you know like with slow motion it it feels like the movement takes so long but obviously in reality it's it's a it's a half a second. So yeah, it's like you don't know if you, you know, I don't know. It turned out fine.

It just felt less cool than some of the other ones I've seen. Sure. Yeah, but you're probably giving an unfair comparison if you're looking at Brad Pitt and then looking at yours. Why can I be like Red Pit bull? But just more of a experience in front of the camera type thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I think again, you've shot pretty much every major celebrity. That being said, is there a celebrity that you have not been able to shoot yet that is on your bucket list? But there's definitely a few that have alluded to glambot over the years. But these are like, yeah, top top, like Beyonce, right? I've never done a Beyonce glambot. This would break the internet. So waiting for that moment, right? And definitely for some guys,

like for some reason, the gentlemen aren't so into doing the cool camera thing. So, you know, like, you know, DiCaprio, Bradley Cooper, these types of gentlemen, like super, super excited that we got Brad Pitt. And I've shot a couple other gentlemen over the years, but like some of the top guys sort of haven't stopped by yet. So those will be really good gets. Yeah, you know, there's a few out there. I'm kind of surprised to hear that only because I feel like most, you know, young men, especially young men who are fans of the movies. And I suspect most actors were fans growing up of movies. But like, I feel like young men always like, think of like those slow-mo walks or like the reservoir dog moments where you always like imagine

having like this slow walk moment and I feel like you provide that for all the celebrities who are like dressed dressed their best and so I'm kind of surprised that the leos of the world aren't taking you up on that but maybe maybe someday it'll happen for you yeah fingers crossed I think I need to do like a social media marketing campaign where I cut all the cool guy content together you know there's always so much focus with like the women and like their outfits and their dress but If I, like, put some content out there that's all the guys looking sweet doing their reservoir dogs walk, I think we might convince some people to stop by next time. Well, I mean, you also, speaking of iconic moment, was it this past year where you first,

was that Taylor Swift's first glam bot moment or have you done her multiple times? Oh, no. That was, I think, her my third time shooting her. Third time. Oh, wow. So I think I shot her every year. Yeah, every year at the Grammys since, I guess it's 25, 24, 23 might have been the first year. I think. Yeah, 2023. So yeah, so yeah, we're good old pals at this point, you know. Oh, wow.

And have you got a chance to shoot her new fiancé, Travis? No, but like when they announced the engagement, I was like, yo, like Travis and Taylor Glabot, because I feel like he would be fun and like do some cool crazy stuff. Like he would just like wild out, I think. You know what I mean? So I think that that would be super epic. Or I think you do their wedding. I was about to say having the glam bot at the wedding. Yeah. Hey, let's put it out there. I'm there. They want me there. I'm there. I know someone I'm pretty sure going to be at the wedding. I'll mention that that could be fun.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just got a little hint in there. I'll bring you guys in as my camera assistant so we can all go. Thank you. So as someone who gets to go to all these award shows, are you all, are you sticking around and watching the award shows? Do you get to hang out and party and have some fun? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have, but typically these weekends are pretty exhausting for me.

Like, we're there Friday morning, like loading in the camera. building the lights like if this is still a job as a director like despite a lot of the content being me sort of like as a host uh so yeah so we're there all day friday like building setting up all day saturday testing programming tweaking even sunday morning we're like setting focus marks doing things and then it's like you know four hours of every 90 seconds like oh hey how you doing like let's do this let's do this and it's like it's a full send thing um and so typically at the end i'm pretty gassed and so like on occasional go in like a few times i have gone in and done the whole thing.

But like, I very much am prepared for those weekends. I go and knowing this. I have a whole plan to, like, make this all function. But, you know, like last night, I was happy to go home, order some food, watch the rest of the Emmys on TV, and have a nice chill night, to be honest. Who did you enjoy catching up with the best last night? Sydney, Sweeney, actually, to be honest.

So, I mean, for a variety of reasons. But one most mainly, I shot her in 2021. And so sometimes, like, I don't know, I don't know if, like, talent or celebrity is, like, remember right so like maybe this is a thing where they like come do some camera thing and they never think twice about right maybe this is a thing where they come do the camera thing and then they see it online and they read the comments and then they watch the clip right like i have no idea what her uh reception is to all of the content you know what i mean and so i i didn't even know if she

would remember i was just kind of like hey and she was like she kind of lit up and she was like oh my god it's been so long since we saw each other and i was like yes it has you know what i mean so that was like really just fun and we kind of caught up and i you know i mentioned just like because in 21, her career was like kind of starting and it's just gone crazy. So chat about that for a second and we tried to come up with a fun iconic kind of move. So it was really fun seeing her. She was super into it. She wanted to watch it and make sure it was good. So that was like a fun moment for sure. Is that caught? Like do you usually let people watch it back or is that kind of like get you held up where it's like, oh, let me redo. Oh, I can do better than that. It depends. Like redoing is can

definitely be a thing that takes a lot of time because, you know, as of late, um, The content doesn't become more popular. More people sort of wants to do it. It's like a thing that like, okay, I get to go to the award shows. And then I get to do a glam bot. You know, this is like this extra thing that comes with sort of attending one of these events. And so we often, in the past couple years, we've had like sometimes giant lines, like 20, 30 people, 50 people in line.

And so if we're doing multiples, like this becomes challenging. But, you know, if Sidney asked to see it again and if she wanted to do another one, I would do another one. That isn't to say that I wouldn't first or sort of anybody. but like it just kind of depends if people really want like okay let's just do it fast it we're we're really trying to like crank through everybody so even if it's like sidney sui and she's like if she tried to do multiplied back okay one of these is probably yeah you know there's a limit at which we can just shoot right but you know you get a little extra love when they take the time to get to

know you because i'm assuming a lot of people just kind of pass through and and i think some people you're making relationships with and other people that's less of a personal experience so you know it makes a lot of sense that you know Cindy took the time to say hi yeah yeah yeah I always try to remember that like even though I'm doing it like 150 times a row like this could be this thing that someone is like really excited to do in like a special moment for them so I always try to like approach I always try to approach the interaction like okay yes this might be my 50th time but it's my first time with you right so it's like let me try to bring that kind of unique energy and approach to each of those interactions to give them the best shot that they can.

Because I also know that the pressure's on, too, people are nervous about whether this can work or not work for them. So, yeah, I try to do everything in their favor to just kind of make them feel calm and relax and kind of get the best thing possible. Now, you're at every award show, right? Is there one that you don't do? Not every, but a lot of the big ones. I think the big one that's missing is like the Met Gala, which I guess isn't really like

an award show per se, but it's like a big red carpet. Right, right. You would think the MetGala would want you. I would love to be there and to be wanted by the MacGala. The challenge is the logistics. The red carpet is essentially just a set of stairs, right? So, like, people get off on the street and then go upstairs. The problem is, like, we need a bit of, we need, like, a platform with a 2,000-pound robots and giant light.

You know what I mean? There's a lot of, like, infrastructure that is needed to make this thing happen. And the space is just super tight. So we haven't been able to kind of, like, figure out a way to get it in there. but there's no shortage of trying or desiring to do so. Well, specifically to the Emmys last night, were there any snubs that you want to call out

or winners that you were really excited to see win? Yeah, I mean, I was excited to see Seth Rogen win for the studio so much, you know? I ended up shooting a bunch of stuff for their premiere, which was really cool, but I didn't even see Seth on the red carpet. The environment gets so crazy, right? So sometimes people will pass us

and like, I won't even notice or like, we won't even really be able to connect. But typically we have a couple, like, talent wranglers that are out sort of asking everybody. But often, you know, people just try to, like, do this step and repeat and then get into the show. So, so, yeah. So no explicit snubs. Oh, Tim Cook, actually. Yeah.

I saw Tim Cook, um, of CEO of Apple. And I was like, yeah, I'm a big Apple fan. I was like, yeah, Tim, you got to come do it. And then they're like, yeah, Tim, Tim, Tim Cook snub this. But I can live with that. Oh, come on, Timmy. I know, right? Go get him next year.

maybe it's he only he only messes with his own tech you know maybe that's yeah maybe if we had an iPhone on there at the end but uh until the iPhones can shoot at a thousand frames a second we're sticking with our phantom camera there you go uh well call this has been a ton of fun man thanks for taking the time to give us a little insight to the uh the what it's like to be on the red carpet of the Emmys and some of these other big award shows anything you want to leave us with or final thoughts before we send you on your way no thanks for having me it was super fun chatting. I still am so excited to kind of be a part of these award shows. And it's kind of crazy to realize that I've become sort of a staple in these things. Like I said, you know, next year

at the Emmys will be 10 years for me. Like the host switch out, the outlet switch out. But I've sort of like been this kind of like consistent staple, which is a wild, wild thought. So I'm just like thankful and honored to bring cool, fun content to the red carpet. And the next time I see you guys, we got to get a little redemption and do another one. You'll be more prepped, more prepared. So we'll do one more the next time I see you. Well, as someone who's done a few red carpets and finds them mostly to be anxiety riddled and a little silly, you definitely bring a highlight to any red carpet I've been a part of when I've seen you there because it's a pretty neat experience. It feels like a right of passage if you've ever done a few red carpets. So thanks for making what is

usually a trivial thing, a fun experience when you're there. Cool. Thank you. That is the sweetest compliment. I appreciate that. All right, cool. Well, I appreciate you. Thanks for joining. Awesome. Thanks, thanks, guys. We'll talk soon. All right. Up next, Lisa Trager returned to the show to talk all things. Bravo. And she's up next. Falls here. Kids are back in school. Vacations are over and it's officially the start of cozy season, which means time to slide into some bambas. You know bambas are the most comfortable socks, slippers, teas, and underwear out there made from premium materials that actually make sense for this time of year.

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Look at her. I'm so thrilled. How are you, Liza? I feel cool. I didn't know I would be able to be a Zoom guest. I love this. Oh, did you like zooming better than coming into the studio? Well, that I get to do it from New York.

Like, I like that. Okay. I also, I'm not wearing a bra. Love. Same. I'm not wearing shoes. I did an audition earlier today for disheveled woman, so that's why I didn't wash my hair. No, it's giving messy butt.

Well, you look great if you don't mind me saying. Thanks. I feel great. Yeah, but yeah, I have my ice cough. You know, I'm in my home. I like that. Okay. And no one can see my body.

Like, I don't feel as self-conscious, you know. Well, you look gorge from shoulders up. How are you guys? We're so good. Yeah. How's the household? Household great. Oh, my God.

Well, we missed you. Yeah. Thanks. I'm so happy to be here. We have so much to talk to you about. Should we get into, I feel like we should get into, I feel like we should get into Salt Lake City. I know it's not out yet. It premieres this week. Are you a Salt Lake City fan? I have a confession to make.

Oh, my God. We're ready. I have been fully out of normal world. I've been kind of out of Brab. I watched a bunch of O.C. for this because Dexter Resurrection was so good. It was so good. I watched it three times. And then I couldn't get enough. So I went from season one, watched it all the way back up. And then I started making Dexter bracelets. And like, I just can't stop thinking about anything but Dexter. Wow. Now, did you, were you an OG? Dexter fan back in the day? Yeah, I should grab it. I actually have a photo from 2014 because well, not back in the day. I've been six feet under a bitch Dexter in the like later 2010 or like 2010s, but I have a Dexter badge and I waited for him outside of his, a Broadway show.

Did you? And he signed it. Oh my God. And I didn't even have an apartment. I had just moved to New York and we were we were couch surfing, but I was like, we're seeing Michael Seahall. I'm old enough that when I got into Dexter, I rented the first two seasons from Blockbuster. Oh, that's so nice to hear. That's cool. I wonder what the menu was like. Do you remember any special features? That just like scratched and itch in my brain.

Wait, were there DVD extras? That's a really good question. I don't know. It was like when it came out in 2006, right? Yeah. Like, oh, wait, something like that a long time ago. But it's like, it's kind of horny. It's scary.

It's exciting. It's heartfelt. No, they really, they made an incredible comeback. Right? Because like if you watched Dexter the original series, like the first four seasons are awesome. Season five, season six, it really falls off. Was it? Well, the showrunner changed. And with these new ones, the original showrunner, Clyde Phillips said that. So that makes sense because the desert, Dexter resurrection and then what was the one? The previous. New blood. New blood and resurrection were both pretty solid. Like we loved resurrection. Except that, not spoiler. the ponytail killer, I really needed him to... No, season two, baby, we're going to Wisconsin. Are you kidding? Yeah, okay.

He's going to be after church brunch in Wisconsin with his family, and Dexter's going to walk into the diner and fucking scare the shit out of this guy. I'm like on edge. I can't wait to see Eric Stone Street back. How did you like Uma Thurman? Umah Thurman is so sexy, so cool, so good. A nod, I felt a nod to Beatrix kiddo when she was like, be cool, very cool. I'm like, that's, it felt like so for the fans and reference heavy and like also, again, spoiler, but when Dexter's in the car with her holding her back with the neck and the little tear, oh my God, I just thought that was so exciting.

It was very, very well done. We were very into it. I was, I'm so happy you watch it. It's actually, like, I know it's so popular, but I've had a hard time finding people to connect with. We watch everything. Everything. You guys, should I watch Dexter? Have you not seen it at all, Mary? Well, I definitely, like, growing up as a child, I would watch the regular Dexter, but not, like, deeply enough to get into it because I was, like, 10. And I shouldn't have been watching it. And you know what else this season did well?

The gore. It was bloody. I liked it. Ooh, I love Bloody. It was bloody. I liked it. Okay, maybe I'll lock into Dexter. I love the detectives.

I like that we're going to have that. I also. This is my big, should we not, I think the detective is going to realize the blood slides are gone because the plaque is there. And I think he's not going to get a break. Like, I think it's going to be, I just can't wait. They did such a good job. Well, they tried to kill, they've tried to kill Dexter a few times, realize it doesn't work.

So can we just, can we try, like, can we just let go of the. For anyone who hasn't watched, this isn't a spoiler for anyone who has watched, you like, we'll know exactly what I'm talking about. How much anxiety did you have when Harrison and Dexter were in that room and he was like, oh, let me go and find, get out. What are you doing? What? Get out of the room. Like, stand on the, like, what are you doing? The door's going to shut. It didn't even, I honestly, I had to watch it a few times to get, I was just so excited. I like watching him clean more than anything. Watching Dexter clean and be thorough is like, so nice for me. Do you like watching, like, are you a fan of those in general? Like, are TikTok, like, clean up my kitchen with me or? There's one, Nikki. You guys know Operation Nikki? I know. Oh, she'll, she cleans. It's really wild to watch, but it's a lot of consumer products. I don't think anyone should live fully like that, but make, is it the ASMR of cleaning that you like? What's, maybe. I don't love it. It's not my main. It's not my main. I like the

SMR of people chewing on TV? No. Yeah, yeah. Wait, I do have to say one more Dexter thing. No, I'm kidding. Okay. Get it out. I actually bought a dress with blood spatter all over it and I'm going to be Dexter's

kill room for Halloween. Genius. I just go all in. Is it plastic? No, the package just came. I'm going to try it on after. Please send us a pack. You have to wait for Halloween.

I'll have to wait for Halloween. Okay, okay. Also, when he turns in the car with Batista, like, I love seeing his, like, mask slip. Oh, this is what I was going to say with, like, New Blood to this. People that aren't fans were like, didn't he die? And I'm like, yeah, and we don't care. He's back to life. What are you doing?

Don't ruin our fun. He's awake. It's called Resurrection. The doctor saved his life, you know? Yeah. And it makes, like, he was in the cold. He was in the cold. People, I liked New Blood, too.

I don't know. It's just, it was for us, the little wink. at the at. Like, I just felt like they really thought about, um, the OG viewers. Who would you rather have narrate your life, Dexter or Carrie Bradshaw? Who are you going to say? No. Who am I going to say? The most famous, blinking on his name. Anthony Hopkins. No. The guy who does the animal? No, no. He's the most famous narrator. Morgan Freeman. Okay, okay. I was thinking TV world, Morgan Freeman or Dexter or Michael C. Hall or Dexter. Or Dexter. Or Michael C. I want Dexter.

It seems crazy, but right now you could obviously tell him in a full-up session. I think the answer to anything's Dexter. Did you guys know that if you use Ways, Michael C. Hall can narrate. He can do your directions on Ways. I don't ever want to drive or use Ways, so. Yeah. But that's cool. Way's is like the app that will, like, you'll save you two minutes, but it'll cost you, it'll get you car sick.

Get you car sick stress damage. But you can have, I used Ways for like a week because you, you'll, you'll save you. you could have Christina Aguilera do your directions. And it was like, girl, you missed your turn. You have to do a Ui now. That would, I might lose my mind. Some like sweet condescending voice when I'm fucking up. Yeah.

No, it would be Christina Aguilera when you arrive at your destination being like, you did it, diva. Now let's party. And it really made me laugh. But then the directions were bad, so I stopped using it. Anyway, speaking of true crime, Salt Lake City is returning tomorrow. Tomorrow or tonight as this airs It's on on Tuesdays

It's on Tuesdays I'm so excited And we're really excited I'm pumped Do we have I think there's some Are you able to catch us up Our audience up to speed Mary

Of what happened last season And things we can be looking forward to Oh am I It's almost like I prepare an entire presentation to do so It's almost like I wore a suit jacket To be able to tell people I'm mostly looking forward to Angie's reign of terror

To grow and grow seeing how the center's snowflake affects her psyche and her first seat. The breakup of Angie and Mary. I'm being told. Here it is. Slamarama. This is like the best day of my life. Okay.

All right. So, Vile Files listeners, the season six of Salt Lake City returns tonight and to catch you guys up to speed. I have taken it upon myself to create a real housewives of Salt Lake City. Season 5, Slamerama to catch us all up. All right. Reeling from Bermuda and the ultimate betrayal of. of Reality Von T's, our heroes, women, continued on their journey.

First, let's get into some season five key players. Next slide. All right, first up, we have the girly upon girly. She loves Wendy's, and she loves to wear her hair and braids that scare me. It's Lisa Barlow, aka Baby Gorgeous. Strengths being Mormon 2.0 and fast food consumption. Weaknesses, cooking, flying coach, and podcasts. Allies, Heather Gay, and Meredith Marks.

Enemies, Whitney Rose, NG Castanavas, and Bronwyn, Newboy. All my favorites. Literally. Although, we love Meredith. Next up, we have the hottest woman alive and the best DJ in the world. It's Meredith Marks, aka Big Mayor. Her strengths are Bathtubs, DJing, disengaging, and Bat mitzvah planning. Her weaknesses are rumors, nastiness, and homeowning.

Allies, Lisa Barlow, Merriam Cosby, Heather Gay, and Jen Shaw, because they talk to each other in prison sometimes. Enemies, Whitney Rose, Angie Kay, and a name you're going to hear a lot more throughout this presentation in the enemies list, Britney Bateman. Is she enemies with Whitney because of the bath bombs? Yes, and other things. Next stop, she defended her girl even when she punched her in the fucking face. It's Heather Gay, aka the Girl Time Girl. Her strengths are writing, producing, and committing to the bit.

Her weaknesses are powerful divas and Finsta counts. Lisa Barlow, Meredith Marks, Merriam Cosby, Whitney Rose sometimes because they're family and they do fight but they always come back together. Enemies, Bronwyn-Newport and Brittany Bateman. Now we've got the hilled girlie

of all girlies. It is Whitney Rose, aka the Wild Rose. Her strengths are hilling, dancing, and appearing on podcasts. Her weaknesses are Alibaba and being a little girl. Allies. Angie K.

Mary M. Cosby, Monica Garcia, and the blogs. Enemies, Lisa Barlow, Meredith Marks, and once again, Britney Bateman. Why are Whitney and Brittany Bateman enemies? Brittany Bateman is enemies with everyone. Anyone who's against Lisa. Yeah. Anyway, next up we have our mother in Christ. Mary M. Cosby, aka Mother Mary.

Her strengths are her sense of smell, good humor, and the fact that she is a woman of God. her weaknesses, hospitals, group trips, locating entrances, and bread in the purse. Her allies, NGK, Meredith Marks, Robert Jr., and God himself. Enemies, Trixie Motel, and Brittany Batem. And rounding out our main cast from season five, we have the center snowflake, the icon, the looks like a mother high body count hair, diva. Yell and Gatsunegas, aka the Greek Mafia Mama. Her strengths is that she's Greek.

She looks like a mother. She's a sniper with her word. She throws glasses and she says, Opa! Her weaknesses are champagne, high body count hair, and talking about her husband. Do never, never ever talk about Sean. That man's a bald saint.

Allies. Merriam Cosmi, Whitney Rose, and Caristos Thermatique. Enemies, Lisa Barlow, Meredith Marks, and Saletti Brittany, who is Britney baby, if we didn't catch that. Our new friends we made this season were Bronwyn Newport, aka the Mormon Andy Warhol. Strengths, costume, and interior design, Whoville, weaknesses, dog poop, jewelers, and Starbucks mugs. Allies, Rihanna, to be determined.

Enemies, Lisa Barlow, Heather Gay, Banana Peels, and Britney Bateman. All right, and finally, the girl we've talked about so much. It's Brittany Bateman, aka the peeping Tom. Her strengths are making announcements, video recording, and vocal tenacity. Her weaknesses, Jared Osmond, pitch. Allies, sweet boy, Justin. Thank you. Can you put me down for ally?

I want to be an ally. Edit. And Nick Vile and Natalie Dwyer are allies as well. And enemies are literally everybody else. All right, so where do we leave off this season? Well, we left off in Mexico. Heather, alongside other producers, created a sawtrap for the women and had them read the meanest text they've ever sent about one another.

Angie said Bronwyn had weird ears and that her husband has one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel. Whitney said she heard a rumor Lisa has threesomes with John Barlow and other women. Lisa then fired back with Estray at Angie saying she heard Sean does circle jerks. Therefore, Angie threw a glass. And Meredith reacted, there's nothing okay about any of this. Later at the reunion, Lisa lied about talking to a jeweler because Bronwyn lied about owning a necklace.

And, okay, next slide, because these women gave us so much in season five that we wanted to give them some high school style superlatives. All right, so first up, with best hair, we have Angie Katzenegovas. With best dressed, we have Bronwyn Newport. How do you think Mary would feel about best dressed? I don't know. Okay, well, I made these awards. Okay.

Class Clown, Lisa Barlow, most musical. Meredith Marks, DJ. Are we laughing at Lisa or with Lisa? Depends on who you're asking. Okay. Future president, Heather Gay. Best sportsmanship, Brittany Bateman. Life of the party, Whitney Wild Rose.

And with our premier award, most likely to be on S&L until she gets fired after three weeks, it is Mariam Cosby. Yay! Congratulations to all the women. All right, what's coming next to this season? We have Lisa, John Barlow, and business issues between the two of them, maybe even marital.

Castro to Greece, inevitable. Below deck down under crossover, George Washington Whigs, Lisa Mystery Men, Mary and Angie break up. And Bronwyn's mom enters. Who knows what any of these things mean? Are these verified storylines? Those are verified storylines that Justin I sourced from the trailer.

It's not verified. So we're guessing. Potential storylines that we... All right. Theories? Theories, I don't think Lisa and her husband are really going to have any serious marital problems. I think business problems probably. Probably.

Business, for sure. No, he's obsessed with her. He can't believe he got a girl that hot. Like, he is living his fantasy. He does not care about one flaw of that woman. And honestly, like, he's too busy staring at her. He's forgetting to pay taxes or pay anyone. He's trying to figure out of Palo Park still.

He's still trying to figure out of parallel park. Legend says he's still there trying to park. Salt Lake gives us that, like, it's just so much goodness. That was an amazing PowerPoint. And thank you so much. If there was a PowerPoint award, you would win for sure. Oh, my God. Thank you so much.

Best PowerPoint goes to. Ah, you guys. What are you looking at most forward? too, Lisa. Honestly, more of these sick little games they play at dinner. Love the games. And I just like Meredith flipping out. And maybe we'll see her DJ.

I'm excited for, yeah, I think those would be my top excitements. What would be your dream, like, DJ opener? I don't really know the DJ game. I'll say Trixie Mattel. She's like. Yeah. But she would headline. I don't know.

I don't know who would open for Meredith Marks. She would headline Open by Meredith Marks. Yeah. What do you think the first, what would be your ideal song to look up and see Meredith Marks up at the booth with? Well, I heard the mixes incorporate her famous quotes. Mm-hmm. So I just want to, I'm going to go and get ticket. Like, I have, I want to see what's happening.

I need a you can leave mix. Yeah, I want to dance to that. Yeah. Yeah. You can leave. Leave. Mm-hmm. Leave.

Leave. You can leave. Also, Bronwyn, I mean, to be like, she sucked that old dick to the top. Like, to live that down and come back for another season, like, she's, you're not buying the jewelry. What's going on? He's not hot at all, like, not charming. I just, oh, it's devastating. Yeah, I feel like we're going to get more into that relationship.

I feel like if she comes, because in the clip it showed, in the trailer, it showed Bronwyn coming for Lisa's, like, business problems or whatever. And I feel like Lisa will play damn dirty. Oh, yeah. Yeah. When you even asked if Lisa's in on the joke or not, like, I don't think Lisa has a sense of humor about anything. God, no. No. I don't think she laughs much.

She's going to hate my PowerPoint. Again, the stray that Sean caught based off of Angie throwing something out there. Like, it was just like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Angie didn't even say anything. It was Whitney. Whitney threw something. And then she was like, what about your husband? What about Sean?

What? It's like, what about Sean? Who cares to be circle jerks? They're so homophobic. It's so annoying. I know. Let that man be bald and gay. I don't know. I love their hot young photos. The thing is, I was a longtime salon receptionist in my life.

And I will say a constant with every salon I worked at is there is at least one very hot, sexual straight guy that does great hair. And he's booked all day and night with women who want, you know, to get touched by them. But they are with women. Like, it is an archetype of the salon world. Is that, like, is it mandatory when you start a salon that you need at least one straight male? It just happens. You usually get hot girls. You get gay guys.

And then you get one sexy straight guy that's just, like, oozes charm. And does he do cut and color? Yeah, I've never worked at deep. I hate this saying this word. I never pronounce it right. But I don't like departmentalized salons. I like stylists and hairdressers. who do both from top to bottom, like the whole story.

And do you think that Sean? Is he the sexual sexy that wants all the one? I think so, but he's respectful because he's an owner and I don't think he like harasses his but yeah, I think women go to him for his like, it's why young women like boy bands. It's like they're nice. They make you feel good. It's complimentary. It's like this fantasy of a man that you would like.

Is Sean part of Angie's glam team? She might be blowdrying her own hair. I don't know. If she's blowdrying her own, if I'm married to a hairstylist and he's not doing my hair every single morning that I wake up. But isn't she also a hairstylist? Yeah. Angie's also a hairstylist?

Did she work at this long? Yeah, that's their business. I didn't realize she was just like back of house. I thought she did hair too. She also helped Mary do her hair in one episode. Mm-hmm. Oh, right, right, right. That friendship is beautiful.

Yeah. Well, apparently they break up. I know. He said, I go get yourself another sister. Also, they have a great name for their salon, which is lunatic fringe. No. Yeah, lunatic. Honestly, I hope to get married one day so I could do a bachelor party at Salt Lake City and go to beauty brow.

What is it? Laser, Beauty Laser. Oh, yeah. Get a private jet. Go to O.C. Go to the quiet woman. Like, I just want to have a housewives party coast to coast. Well, speaking of O.C., we had a new episode.

And if you missed last week's episode of the Royal House of Orange County, here's your rapid recap. Jen and Ryan have a cyber truck because of course they do. Shannon doesn't know if she doesn't want to go with Tamara to Temecula. Heather Dubrow reminds the world that she is an ally to the trans community and also a podcaster. Emily and Gin clean up dog and cat poop Gretchen and Emily take fireball shots. Shannon has deep thoughts. Jack Handy was left shaking in his boots. She also brought an immersion blender and an egg bite blender on a girl's trip. Diva, a random woman on the street appeared just to tell Heather she has proof. She didn't call the Paps at Disneyland. Shannon learns what Huck to us spit on that thing. is, but she revealed she swallows drinks. Heather is taking improv and was just cast on SNL. Congrats Heather. Wait, actually, she just announced via Instagram story that she's leaving SNL. But she made sure to thank Lauren in the post for posterity's sake. Anyway, back to the episode, Jen is still mad about the fatty photo. Tamara backtracks on it and basically says Ryan likes her more now, that she's skinny. Gin says that's not actually an apology. Tamara is gobsmacked by this and says, what do you want? Blood? And that's the episode. Would you rather go

to Temecula with Tamara or meet a stagewoman on the streets of Beverly Hills with Heather? have to pretend it's normal. I'm not going to Temecula. I don't care. I said, I'm staying at Hunter's. Honestly, I liked that paparazzi person. Like, I would actually like to. That was such a setup. It was a setup, but she was, she seemed cool. Hey, by the way, yeah, you didn't call the pop. Like, this paparazzi is like watching every episode and keeping up with the drama of, I feel like they're too busy scouting restaurants and celebrities to watch TV. When the person that you're getting to dispel the rumors about you calling a pop, it looks like you also called them to dispel the same rumors about you calling the pop. Yeah, I don't, I don't know what she's

thinking. Like, I don't know. Well, remember she just got found out due to this lie detector test that she was lying about calling the paparazzi. Yeah, but we now know that was a fake lie detector test, so. Exactly, but not to her. To her, it was real. So she was like, I need to be validated yet again. I mean, I will say paparazzi do hang out in Beverly Hills on the streets it's because it is a sceny play. So it's, if Heather really didn't call the paparazzi, she is really going about it in the wrong way to prove her innocence.

Yeah. Yeah, but I liked what Jen said, where it's like, if I did call the paparazzi, I would tell people. She's like, no one would know, no one would care if I called them, you know? Like, I wish she just kind of got over it and admitted it and was like, yeah, I want to be in magazines.

Who has less of a sense of humor, Heather DeBrow or Lisa Barlow? Lisa Barlow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think Heather gets drunk. I think her and Terry, they have fun. They have fun.

Yeah, you can't be married to Terry and not have a sense of humor. Did you miss Katie this episode? Because I did. Yes. Very much good. Yeah, I did. Me too. I just, I think they're all, like, do such horrible things.

I just don't understand why she has to leave forever. It's weird. I don't get it. I don't get it. Can't we have another camera on her, not into Mechula? Like, geez. Yeah, like, show her at her house, like with her kids and her husband. I want to see her hang out with bloggers while the show.

She's a liar, but Gretchen's a liar, they're all liars. And Tamara's truly like a spawn of Satan, who I enjoy on my screen, but like she's vile, the way she treated Shannon last season and then now being like, I already said, sorry, get over it. I guess she's holding a grudge. And it's like, yeah, people need to. You were psychotic last season. I just.

Also her trying to say that she didn't call that photo a fatty photo. I'm like, you were screaming at the rooftops that that was a fatty photo. Yeah, it's like, yeah, pray upon this woman who is insecure. Now she lost weight, feels good, getting fucked by this guy who's, you know, probably doing a good job. Let her live. You're mad she's wearing a bikini? Tamara also never said fatty photos. So that's the thing that people are forgetting that Jean is the one that said that word.

But then it's also at the same time Tamara's apology for sharing that photo was basically like, well, it's okay because your husband likes you just because you're skinny now. Exactly. And that was crazy. She didn't say fatty photo and I get that. but what was her intention? She definitely alluded to her being, quote, unquote, bigger. Like, that did not come from Gina. Like, she was, she kept like.

But again, it's like, you've get face, everyone's getting facelifts and lasering and Botoxing. You're all 60 and wanting to look young and you all do it. So why are we bullying this woman for doing it? I don't get it. Well, and then I'm also, if I was calling somebody a stalker saying that they were trying to be me, like the last thing I want to do is make up and hang out. You know what I mean?

Like, if you genuinely believed that, You should be thanking her for being a part of your gym. Who else went there? Who else had a membership? She's like mad she's taking classes. Instead of posting a quote-unquote fatty photo, you should just be happy that, like, you think she's really improved herself since going to your gym. And you were the inspo. Yeah.

And like, like, I would love to be called tits on a stick. Complement. Yes. Tits on a stick. Yeah. Tits on a stick. Like, okay. Yeah.

It's just weird when it's not okay to talk bad about someone and when it is and like what's going on. I mean. They're all just so hypocritical. Yeah, constantly. I feel like Gretchen and Emily were talking shit about Heather right before they go and sit at her house and drink her champagne. Wait, I loved when they're sitting at crustacean. Uh-huh. Heather, Emily and Gretchen.

And here comes Emily trying to like talk some shit about Jen. And she's like, oh, Jen said that she thinks that you. are scared of Tamara and that you do this and this with Tamara. And Heather so calmly continues eating and goes, well, what was your response? Yeah, yeah. Round of applause. I'm sorry. It's my first question.

If any one comes to me saying like, oh, my God, this person was talking shit about you. What was your response? And the flashback being, Emily being the one that said everything that she's now saying that Jen said. Like, that's not even how she asked the question. And she goes, I don't remember. I think I might have said, like I thought maybe you did. If you don't remember, then you definitely talk some shit.

100%. Or, like, you'd like just softly agreed with them, you know, like... It would have been panicking. Would you have spent the night at Heather's house in that little canopy bed? I don't even remember the bed. She had three beds in a room. I'd be a part of Heather's life at any moment. I'd open the fridge.

I don't care. Okay. You're like Roberta Cavali designed penthouse. Yes, I will stay there for the night. And it's closer. So I could go home if I get scared in need. my bed, you know? I'm like, Temecula, I'm stuck with Tamara and Shannon. No, thank you. With a primary bedroom. And then her being like, I don't need the primary. I don't need the primary. It's like,

if you did not get the primary, what we would be hearing about. I'm like, I'm so uncomfortable with the primary. It's like, why? Your bathroom's right there. But then Heather opening up packages and packages from Fendi. I loved it. She's like, he's not supposed to be home when I open packages. The rest of us are like Amazon. She's like, $10,000 here. Nuts. I do like every third episode, Heather clearly has an understanding with the producers to like emphasize just how rich she is. I love it. I need it in every episode. Yeah. The joys of being married to a plastic surgeon. There must be other sources of income. Like, are plastic surgeons? Well, he has the show too. He's botched. They had a $50 million, like, how much do they sell that

house for it. They did like huge real estate deals. Remember like the house that they built from the ground up? I think they sold for like two times as many millions as they made it for. It's like their their house home sales are ridiculous. They've diversified revenue streams. And I'm

sure he invest. I'm sure she does. Another unpacking I'd like to mention Shannon's suitcase was my favorite. I mean to pack a platter. To pack a platter. She said I'm making breakfast. It's crazy. But she's also not wrong.

Like, how many times you want to cook dinner at an Airbnb and you're like, wait, we don't have a spatula? It's the hair dryer. The hair dryer, they might have one. They might not have one. She said, I'm not going to be caught with my pants down here as an emulsion blender and I'm ready to make dinner. She's like, do you want a good meal?

I just don't believe that she's a good cook. Like, I don't think anyone wants her emulsifying anything. The truth is we're having bisque or some sort of soup if we're bringing an emulsion blender. Yeah. Well, we also had the real house. Wives of Miami. And if you miss the episode of the Real House Vives of Miami, here's your rapid recap. The girls do an 80s aerobics class. And Alexia revealed she dated a cocaine cowboy in 80s

Miami iconic behavior. The girls tell Larsa and Lisa, they just need to get over their shit and move on because it's getting annoying. Lisa detoxes with wine and green juice. And it works because she stays calm talking to Larsa. They agree to move on. Lisa even refollow Larsa. Pieces in the air. America take notes. The girls order a drink called Harvey Wallbangers. And we're not going to deconstruct that and move on. Stephanie and Alexia try to stuff it out. It's revealed that Marisol's actually the one that hates Stephanie, not Alexia. They both open up about sister trauma and bond over it. Things are looking good for them. Lisa continues on her early streak. She's learning, growing and changing. Gertie served eyes wide shut realness at the function. Apparently,

Alexia had sex with Todd two days ago. Adrina hates her birthday cake but loves her birthday male strippers. Gertie starts going to therapy and opened up about her past. Marisol is certainly not ready to double date with Alexia and Todd. Stephanie Sojay and Adriana are becoming besties because they both hate Marisol and Stephanie wants Adriana to perform at her party and that's the episode. Question, is Gertie the best dressed housewife and history? Let's discuss.

I don't think so. History? No. History? I don't think so. I love her. She pulls some crazy fits. I love Gertie, but those ears, the bunny ears. She's going to a different dinner. Are you kidding me? Are you not entertaining?

I just love that, and I'm probably the only one who knows this, but the Harvey Wallbangers reference is a reference from the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers baseball team. Oh, and then do you just know all baseball players of all decades? Why do you know this guy from 82? Milwaukee Brewers are my team.

Shout out to the team with the best record in baseball currently. But you can fact check me Sierra or Harvey Wallbangers, but Harvey was their manager who replaced someone else was fired in the middle of the season

and he took over and they went to the World Series and lost the St. Louis Cardinals in seven games. Do you know what's in the drink? I don't. I didn't know it was named after a drink. But the Harvey Wallbrangers was like the name of the team. Like that was their nickname for the team.

Wait, where were they when they ordered this? Am I right? On the Virgin Airline airline guy's boat. Richard Branson? Richard Branson? Yeah, that guy. Did they go to any islands? We just saw them on the boat.

Okay. Just some free press. Mm-hmm. For the cruise. But they seem to have fun. A lot of people made up. Am I right about the Harvey Wallbangers? He replaced Buck Rogers, and he was replaced by Renee Leachman.

Yeah, but were the Brewers called the Harvey Wallbangers? Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Okay. The scene with Lisa and Larsa making up, Lisa felt so performative to me, where she, like, takes off her glasses. She's like, I'm crying. And she's like, let me put my glasses back on. I don't want anyone to see me.

So I, unfortunately, did not watch the new. episode of Miami. But I would like to say, Lisa and Larsa, to me, are the most, number one and two, most vapid housewives across all franchises. Not the vapid. Not the vapid. Continue. I think they're both empty vessels of nonsense. And watching them talk is amazing television. But it's like, I've just never seen people that are so, yeah, vapid. You know, with the fact that we have drug out her following.

Marcus for this long. It's so rude. Unfollow your fucking friend's ex. You dumb bitch. Like, I can't even. Even if it's your boyfriend's bestie? It doesn't matter. You're 50. What are you talking about the internet for? Who gives a shit?

Like, unfollow your friend's ex. Mewen. Like, I just, I don't. I can't. I can't. Do you think that she called the paparazzi? What is Marcus posting that's, like, so riveting? Like, what? Do you think Larsa called the paparazzi on Marcus snorting the cocaine on the yacht. I hope so.

Alexis married to a cocaine cowboys. Dated, dated, dated. Wild. Dated a cocaine cowboy in the 80s. It's not that wild. She was married to another Coke King. Like, she's like the sexiest woman in Miami. Of course she's with a cocaine cowboy. I mean, certainly a serial killer. Oh, wow. I didn't think about that. I understand now. Yeah. She likes danger. She likes danger. I think the thing about Miami in the 80s is you could like throw like, you know, a tiny little spoon and hit

a Coke dealer. I guess. I guess. Oh, yeah, the killing of it all. But to me, it's still crazier. I forgot what season when Todd was like, uh, they admitted pissing on each other. And I was like, this is crazy for housewives. Crazy.

That's crazier than cocaine cowboy to me. Getting on Bravo and admitting you're like pissing on each other. It's crazy. Miami will just say it. You've had too much sex if, if you have to. are to that. Or it's your thing. We don't kink shame here on file files.

Why not? I don't know. I'm definitely kingshaming Gretchen breaking Slade's penis and then continuing to talk about it every episode. This is a classic thing amongst me and my best friends slash, you know, Bravo Babes. What we talk about all the time is these women are always talking about all the sex they're having, but we know for a fact they're not. Yeah.

There's, why are you have, I have sex eight times a day. Okay, sure. Yeah, Scott. Who has time. I don't get that. It's why they always play the game when was the last time you had sex at dinner because they know everyone's going to lie. Yeah.

No one, no normal adult has sex. If you have sex twice a day, that's, that's something to celebrate. Yeah. Well, I feel like it's like Lisa Vanderpump's entire personality was like, Sabrina Carpenter double entron. but then that woman had sex twice a year. If that. Yeah, if that.

It was once and it was on Kinsworthay. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. No, Miami is superior in terms of, that's why O.C. is so boring. I'm like, we're still talking about this. Like, move on. Move on. Like, Miami keeps it moving, and I like that.

That's how I feel about, like, Salt Lake City. Keep it moving. And Miami, I love it so much where I'm like, Beverly Hills really needs to bring it. Because I'm like, if I have to watch one storyline for 18 episodes again, I'll lose it. Conflict, resolution. Conflict, resolution. Conflict, no resolution, reunion, resolution. Yeah.

I need Charlie Sheen to make an appearance on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Oh, I forgot about. We started watching that doc on Netflix. Wow. Yeah. Oh, yeah, a lot of people are liking it. I haven't seen it. He opens the documentary up with saying he was on a 300 passenger.

plane hammered out of his mind after he just, like, swallows six mini shots of hard liquor. And the captain is like, oh, Charlie Sheen, like, big fan, big fan. And he, like, invites him. Let's him fly the plane. Let's him sit in the seat in the cockpit, takes it off autopilot, and let's Charlie Sheen hammered fly a 300 passenger plane. Fame is a disease Like

No, literally A lot What? Literally Yeah Imagine me on that plane Even sitting in it I'm okay with I would try to get in the cockpit

But to take it off autopilot What? He's hammered Why? Yeah He has no training He doesn't even know he's drunk But he has no training

But you know when you take like a Chinese child To Chuckie cheese You don't have to give him quarters They don't know what's happening Like this man's passed out Like he doesn't know if he's flying it or not Like let him press the button.

Why do you actually need to put all these people's lives in danger? Which reminds me of when my mom gave my daughter, my 19-month-old daughter, a frozen waffle because she said she wanted it. And I was like, she doesn't know it has to be toasted. It looks the same frozen and toasted. She's like, but she just wanted it so bad right then. If she asked for a knife, would you give her that too? But yeah, like they don't know.

Did that, did we find out if the pilot got fired or fined? Well, he told the story, I think, you know, 30 years after it happened. Damn. Yeah, so we don't know. Yeah, this was in the 80s where there are. Oh, yeah, 80s are different. Yeah. He could have a good time up there.

Yeah. The pilot's retired by now. And he was French, according to Charlie Sheen's accent. I did get to go into the cockpit in December, but we were grounded. But the guy was like, we're delayed if anyone wants to come on up. So I got in there. It was like, was it you and a bunch of seven-year-olds? Just kidding.

That is actually what happened. It was just me. I was first because, you know, I'm obviously in first class. I'm going to Cincinnati. I'm upgraded. And so I was first in there. I was having the time of my life. And then I walked outside and it was a line of children.

And I realized that I misunderstood. That sounded like me on my first Thanksgiving at Natalie's family. When they brought out the ice cream. Well, they have a rule. Apparently, the kids go first. in this family. I was not made aware of this rule. And then there was, well, it was the day after Thanksgiving dinner. So then I guess I was made aware of the rule. But there was an

engagement celebration for Natalie's cousin and his, his lovely now bride. And they brought out the ice cream buffet. This was before I was off sugar. A lot of disclaimers. And I don't know, at least three minutes had passed. And ice cream melts and no one was going up there so i was like all right well i guess i'll start this train all the moms in the room and i was like the new boyfriend at the time were just devastated and a bunch of my nieces and nephews i was basically like knocking kids over yeah but like they don't i've flown over 700 000 miles yeah let me in the cockpit it's time oh have you

gotten your wing pin yet i have wing pin well i collect the delta cards oh you do i collect the trading cards from the pilots so that makes sense now oh Another thing for all the audience members who listened to this show before, we had Natalie's brother-in-law over for dinner a week ago. And now he's like, what do you want to come over for dinner? And he was like, can you cook? And Nali was like, no, but Nick can. So I made my meatballs with my homemade sauce.

And if you listen to this show, you know that on that same Thanksgiving, Natalie brought me, her boyfriend, and she, Amanda, her sister, married to her brother-in-law, suggest that I make something. So now he's like he can make meatballs. So I made meatballs for a family that like is very traditional when it comes at Thanksgiving. And her family, all her aunts and her grandma made fun of me because like I... Not because he made the meatballs necessarily, but because it was the only thing he ate. Because I ate fucking turkey.

My sweet grandmother was like, no, Nick, did you try my stuff in? And he was like, no, I didn't. I have 20 of my own meatballs. Anyway, her brother-in-law. I was eating these meatballs. And he's like, these are the best meatballs I've ever had. Why haven't you made these before? And I was like, you've got to be fucking kidding me.

You know, I made them for you two years ago. Two. You know, I don't know. But anyway, so. Yeah, I'm actually, I've realized in the last few years, I don't think I like meatballs. Because I went to a meatball contest and I ate all the meatballs. And I was like, I don't think I'm into meatballs. I think that would ruin anything.

Yeah. And I always order them. I want to be cool. I feel it's like a fun order. And I'm always like, I've, I just want a piece of bread. What about IKEA meatballs? Ugh, so sweetest things.

Those are delicious. Oh, God. They're not, but I'll do it because I love, like, kitsch. I like to lean in. Yeah. You love a bit. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I want to lean in. Are you an S&L fan, Lisa? I am, but I would say casual. I also, like, you know, I have friends on it. I've been in the green rooms. Any inside tea why everyone's, like, the mass exodus at SNL? Listen, I don't know about specific.

You grinned. You did know something. I think it's a messed up place, and I think there's a lot of psychological torture going on. And I think it's great for people's careers. I think it's cool. I think it's fun. Take it. I wish you mentally well, but I don't think anyone that leaves is upset.

Or they're upset because they get fired, but I think a few months out, everyone feels free. Maybe like they're out of a cult. Mm-hmm. Maybe. Okay. Allegedly. Like, perhaps. I think that's the vibe, right?

Yeah. Wasn't that a bunch of jokes on the 50th of like, we're too mentally unwell? Yeah, I mean, couldn't like Bill Hader not go to the 50th because the idea of going to that studio made him like have a panic attack? And then some people shy. Listen, have all my friends been fired from there? Yes. Constantly for over a decade. but and some people love it, some people take it for what it is, some people lose themselves,

some people shine, some people get bold, like, you know, it's lots of different people and it's a high stress competitive environment. It's like drag race. There could be amazing drag queens, but drag race is maybe not the format or like they can deal with it. Some get lost in the sauce, you know, it's like so individual. Okay. Well, thanks for the inside's good.

I know. All my friends are pissed. No one will talk to me ever again. But I don't think I. Well, we appreciate it. Lisa, it's always fun to have you on. I can't believe I'm leaving. No.

No, come back. Yeah, come on. I'll be your name right. I'm devastated. Please come back. Key plug. Tell us where we can find you all that fun stuff. I would love to.

Listen, I am out on the road, guys. Springfield, Missouri, San Francisco, Baltimore. I'm going to Denver this weekend. But also, I'm in Europe. Dublin, London, Amsterdam, Paris. Never been to Paris. Oh, my. Australia, Perth, New Zealand. I know. Perth, I canceled. Not enough ticket sales. But Brisbane, Melbourne, Sydney, Auckland. Where can people get tickets and support you? I'm actually working on rebranding right now. But at Glitter, she, it's like people forgot how to use the internet. Figure it out. Don't people remember encyclopedias, going to the library, doing research? Find the link. Type in my name. Google, Lisa Trayor, Australia. Can I Apple pay tickets? Or do I have to? to type in my credit card info. I don't know. Hopefully there's a shop pay. I don't know.

I just give me your credit card information and I can get it to Lisa. Okay, great. Some announced, I'm having a big deal show in January, February,ish that I'm announcing soon. But at Glitter cheese on Instagram, I have a podcast called That's Messed Up, an SVU podcast where we talk about SVU, the true crime it's based on. We interview actors from it and we did just interview someone from Dexter Resurrection, who's in seven episodes. it's the best view. So that was a thrill. But yeah, it's called That's messed up. And then, oh, my Netflix

special. That's the most important thing, actually. Please watch my Netflix special. It's an hour. It came out in January, but still relevant. It's called Night Owl. And I'm proud of it. I'm proud of it. This was a thrill, guys. Amazing. We'll see you next thing. Well, we love you. Thanks for coming on.

My God. Love you guys. And we love you all. Thank you to our guest, Lisa Trager and Colt Walzer. We'll see you back tomorrow for going deeper with Jesse James Decker and her husband, Eric Decker. And on Thursday, we have some great guests lined up for you. We'll see you all then. Bye-bye.