The Viall Files - E1008 - Lacey Chabert, Teresa Giudice Talks Special Forces, RHOM Finale, RHOC and Selena Gomez’s Wedding

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

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Val Files Reality Recap Edition. I am your host, Nick. We're joining you. Live. Well, not really. Well, when you're listening to this, we won't be live. Currently in this moment, we're live from the lake house. The new studio at the lake house, I would say is 95% done. Also, if you are tuning in watching with us on YouTube, you might notice that we also are in a new studio in L.A. The household is joining us from the new upgraded studio in L.A. It's bigger. It's better. It's beautiful. Yeah. We're doing big, bad, beautiful things here at NV Media. Dozy is joining the household today.

We got married. We got Sierra. It's jam-packed episode. A lot of exciting things. Would you say what? We're like 80, 90% done at the LA studio? Those chairs are white. We're going to.

Yeah. It's beautiful here, guys. It's gorge. Yeah. I can't wait for you to see it. I'm in love. The new carpet smell. The little decal.

It's so bougie. I feel well taken care of. Yeah. It's very nice. I vlogged coming in. I was so excited. Did you? Yeah, I was blocking it.

Yeah, we were part of Susie's vlog. I'll tag you guys. No one's quitting anytime soon. Yay, everyone's happy. Yay! The household rose up. They're like, we want a bigger office. Yeah, the household started protesting.

Yeah, yeah, us in our two little rooms. We were a little stressed out. We're growing, you know. It used to be a small operation. Now we're, well, still small. But we're a lot bigger. No, don't be humble. This is great.

I'm not going to lie, this is crazy. This looks like Sterling Cooper-Draper Price. I don't know who that is, but Slay, Sterling Cooper. Slay. Imagine what our guests are going to say when they come in now, because before they'd come in, they're like, oh, my God, you're like a real show. I think sometimes when people say podcasts, I think they expect to show up in my garage. I don't have a garage in L.A., but, you know, either way.

We're excited. Join us in the comments, I guess, if you like what you see. I mean, it's a very similar aesthetic to what we used to have. but better but better and we got a cozy little dynamic my wife and are now facing each other making great eye contact falling in love at any moment during the episode we may just like you may we just might break away and start just wow yeah maybe it's all about eye contact maybe we'll do that I don't know Nick is also now everyone oh I don't know what I don't know what I have to okay okay don't Adriana Damora us.

You look great for your age. Times 2 minus 5. Yeah. 32 last year. 25 plus. For my age. Minus 5. Isn't that what Kiki said to Adriana?

She was like, you look amazing for your age. No, that was crazy. It was a birthday, but it was amazing birthday. Let's all talk about the amazing gifts that Natalie and River got me. I'm wearing them. They're my new to Kova cowboy boots. It's not an ad, even though. I've been telling Toccova, they need to sponsor their boots on this show.

My wife is what got me into cowboy boots. I, like, spoiler, this may surprise many of you, but I am not a real cowboy. And I'm not. Wait, really? And I'm not like the most masculine guy out there. And I never would have thought that I could love cowboy boots, but it was my wife who bought them for me. And as a city slicker, I got to tell you, I really, first of all, incredibly comfortable, incredibly versatile. They pair well with jeans. They pair well with dress pants.

This is turning into an ad. Let's more talk about the birthday gets itself. Really not. Anyways, you can even see the logo. They didn't pay for this, so it's not. So, as you can see, Natalie Rivers handprint, zoom in. If you could, please. I don't know if that's possible. There's also a V on there. Wait, are you serious? And then I put the year 25 because I wanted to always remember the sides of her handprint. was when it was then. Wait, that's the cutest thing.

Anyways, it's an incredibly incredible gift. We did Packer colors. We really put some thought into it. Now, that was very thoughtful, Natalie. That's the handprint's amazing. And I got to- He didn't cry, so if y'all were wondering. Nallie forced me to open the gift around friends.

Forced. I was like, do you want to open your gift before your friends leave town? And then they were like, oh my gosh, yes, yes, we want to see. So I had to hold back the tears. Yeah. But I have to say, I, my real. The original plan was a pair of converse to paint because it's like canvas side, you know? I was like, that'll be easy, whatever.

But they don't last. But then I was looking around in the closet and there were every color. I mean, he has every color of converse. I'm like, he doesn't need. This is an amazing gift. Another. So me and Shug took River to the mall and saw Tikova's. And I was like, oh, maybe I'll just get him a new pair of boots.

So then we walked in and I was like, can I paint on leather? Like, can I just get, like, can I do this on these boots? And Shug was like, I think it'll, like, peel off. And so I was asking the sales associate, like, do y'all know of any paint? And they were like, we actually do that here. Like, our manager is a, like, was a tattoo artist. So she's, she can paint anything on the boots. Like, we have the leather paint. And they're like, we can brand. We can do whatever. And I was like, love that she's talented. That's amazing that she like can do anything I want. But I was hoping my 19 month old daughter could paint. And she was like, oh. Um, probably. Let me, let me go talk to her. There's a lot of talking with the manager, pulling out all the pains. It's like, keep out of children's eyes and reach. And they were like, you need to just sign this waiver, please. And we got it done. And it was cute. Wow. And we loved it. It's an amazing gift. Yeah. It was a great birthday. I mean, obviously, I got to spend it at the new lake house with my parents, with my family. It was really, it was really great. Honestly, it made me think of some of other birthdays I have. And just a little motivation out there. for any of you all who maybe had a birthday recently. I've had some birthdays where I was like, what's the point? Honestly, I haven't made. So sad. You know, there's been

a couple of those where it's just like, I'm a total loser. I mean, honestly, I think, I don't know if somewhere around my 38th, maybe 36, 7th, 39th, mind you, this is after the Bachelor run, dancing with stars, I'm in Hollywood. I spent one of my birthdays

with people I don't even remember, didn't even know, And at like 1.30 in the morning, I was on an IHop. Hell yeah. Wasn't, didn't you also spend your 40th, like, in the house, like eating Chinese food by yourself? That was fine. No, Ashley and Jared came over. Ashley and Jared.

And I had just bought my first new house. So that was a cool milestone. I felt accomplished after that. It was definitely better than being with strangers at an IHop. At an IHop. At an I hop at one in the morning. Not every birthday is meant to be, you know, a win. But this one was.

This one was pretty good. living out the dream at the lake house the lake house is it's great I don't know it's uh we obviously spent a lot of time moving in very busy days I'm wearing the sweatshirt of the builders uh calms and uh recullen

uh Jeremy and Greg shout out Jeremy and Greg they crushed it if you are thinking about building a new home or remodeling also not an ad I don't know we spent so much money with these people and they're like and here's a free sweatshirt he's like let me talk about you on my podcast yeah no so the they're both related to the the guy who bought the house from my grandfather and one of the builders germy was telling me that

like he used when he was a kid used to come up here like i came up here on the lake so we really kept it in the family so to speak but they they did amazing work they did all of this in like eight seven months i think they're pretty booked up but you know give them a call uh i think a calmsvercalling.com. Good luck finding that guys. Just zoom into a sweatshirt. Don't wear that. See, zoom in.

Give it. I don't know if it's possible. Anyways, it's really been incredible. Have you been having fun? Yeah, of course. I think I have, you know, now that we have river, I definitely am just full of anxiety all the time. So being like next to water, we have a lot of rock decor,

outside landscaping rocks and I'm just like like big boulder rocks and I'm like you know it was different when she was a potato but the house is gorgeous all the furniture that Natalie Interior decorated the shit out of the house

all the little fixtures of the little designs yeah I did all that stuff by myself but I did have Sarah Petticoord help with the inside furniture because I was just after picking out every single hardware and paint color I was like

I don't think I could find a couch interior designer of the stars apparently. Yeah, I think she did Miley's Iris's house. Also, kind of cool. I don't know if you all noticed, but Lana Del Rey posted her wedding photos. It's her anniversary, one year anniversary.

Yeah. If you guys take a peek at that wedding dress and take a peek at Natalie's wedding photos. Welcome party. The welcome party photos. They use the same designer, and Lana wore a dress named after our daughter River, the river.

I love. How iconic. What a fun little. connection for us. I don't know if Lana cares. She'll probably be a man that we're talking about it. No, I think Lana's sentimental. She'd be like, love that that was named after your daughter. That's so sweet. Beautiful photos that she shared. I mean, seeing just does amazing jobs with wedding wedding dresses anyway. So the fact that like Lana wore it is like just his meant to be, you know. Did you guys see Selena Gomez?

Speaking of weddings, Selena Gomez got married. Speaking of weddings. Yeah, she posted to her Instagram. I have a question for everybody, though. Do you feel like, I feel like her photo drop on Instagram was like very trendy, like all blurry photos. It kind of looks like 1950s-esque where you're like, oh my God, they didn't have a proper camera. I'm sure there was like real photos documented, but like how do we feel about the super blurry trendy? It's a vibe, right? It kind of feel that's giving like Great Gatsby almost in a way. It is. Yeah. It's like where you like you had to be there. You had to be there. Yeah. That's actually that's actually so true. Yeah. It's giving here's like, oh God, if only I was

there, you know. Right, exactly. I wonder, do we know who planned her wedding? Did she have, like, a celebrity wedding planner? Or was it, like, in the family, like a... I think we should acknowledge that she married Benny Blanco. I think we... Beni Blanco. Yeah, her and Beni Blanco. That's so real. I really like the photos. I think it's like, I think so much wedding photography looks very, very similar. Yeah. And it all, yeah, everything, like, regardless of the vibe of your wedding, it all kind of ends up looking, like, high definition. And I think, and I, you know, and I I feel like there's so much more, like, emotion and you can really, like, feel a lot of the stuff there when, like, stuff is shot, like, on film or just, like, a little grainy of just kind of,

I don't know, like, a little imperfect because I think when wedding photos are, like, super, super perfect, it kind of takes away from the authenticity of it. Yeah. Yeah. I love that she. I also just, like a vibey photo. I also kind of like how this wedding seems like it's a very, like, low-key event. Like, did it happen?

Did you get an invitation? Nobody knows. But it's, like, Taylor Swift. Ed Shear, like, you know it's going to be, like, the hugest, like, A-list guest list, but it, like, looks like there's only two people there from what they posted. Yeah. No, I love that. I love that she posted the Polaroids, like, took a picture of the Polaroid photos on her carpet. She's still one of us.

Truly. At the end of the day. Yeah. I love Selena Gomez so much. I'm so, actually, I'm so happy that her and Taylor are, like, in their wifie era. I feel like they've been through the trenches, and it, like, gives people hope, you know? They've really seen the worst of it. they're both seemingly being treated very well.

Not to push a lifestyle on you guys, but I got to say, just the married life, it crushes. Sarah? I'm working on it. I just got engaged. She's getting there. Loving it. No, literally. And Susie was just partying with her ex, so I feel like you're kind of getting close to.

Wait, what were you doing, Susie? Yeah, partying with my ex. Fun. Which ex? On my rooftop. He's been to the house. Justin? Yeah.

Yeah, Justin. I had like, pretty much most. of the L.A. Bachelor in Paradise cast at my house this weekend. Oh, game night. We were all at like an event for, yeah, game night. We were at like an ESPN event. And then literally just like, we just kept going. We were drinking. And we were like, let's just do a game night. And it just kind of spiraled into like everyone come over and we grilled on my roof. Give us the roster. Who was there? Okay. We had Justin, Andrew, Alex, Leia, Rachel, Marshall Glaze was there. and then somebody. Jonathan, of course, ESPN came, I'm pretty sure. Or Disney. I'm not sure which one. Maybe both.

Not partying with the reps. Like an employee or like, like, talent? No, like an employee. And I was like, yeah, it was like, we made it, I think. So did you all go to like the grocery store and get stuff to grill out? Did you, is your house just stocked or did you Instacart? My house was like low-key kind of stocked because I had a summer I turned pretty finale party. So I had like a lot of leftover drinks and like beverages, some snackies.

But Andrew volunteered to go get like grilling stuff. And then I Instacarded Cain's Chicken as well. Obviously. Because it sounded great. So who won the game night? What games? You guys, it actually turned like so weird. We were doing like improv games and like I actually at one point was like, oh my God,

I really hope my neighbors like can't hear us right now because we were taking like. Let's, yes and. Yes. Yeah. It really was like a yes and night. I love fishbowl. But we were like all drunk by the end and like maybe I had a THC drink and I was just like I think it It just got really weird.

Like, but nobody felt uncomfortable, so I think. That's beautiful. Thank God. Just a lot of improv on my roof. It got kind of, you know, kind of, kind of freaky, you know? Did you kiss anybody? No. No one.

I didn't see anybody kiss. Alex and Andrews still in love? Yes, there's so, they're actually even cuter. Oh, my God, they're more in love. They're more in love, yeah. I've got words for that therapist. Yeah, me too. Is Jonathan still single?

Yes. Yeah, as far as I know. Okay. Have you guys seen the Mr. Fantasy? Yes. Yes. Mr. Fantasy, yeah. That is my type. Yeah. Like, not... KJ. Apa or Mr. Fantasy?

No, Mr. Fantasy. Like, KJ. Apa, like, I can acknowledge a handsome man, but, like, Mr. Fantasy is my type. Can you... What is the difference? I don't... I'm unfamiliar with Mr. Fantasy. Is this like a, is this like, um, Garth Brooks, um, alter ego? Like, what was it... What was it? What was Garth Brooks alter ego? I don't know. But I know. Well, it's kind of like, um, you know, Mike Myers, Austin Powers, I would say more so than Garth Brooks. Oh, my God, yeah. Is Mr. Fantasy a character AJ played?

Well, no. There are some theories that, like, maybe this is all, like, a marketing ploy, which would be really disappointing. But, no, he's just like this alter ego. I think it started, like, a month or so ago on TikTok, and he's just, like, taken on this full persona. He has, like, prosthetic teeth and a wig. So is it actually KJ. APA?

Or is it someone pretending to be KJ.A. No, it is him. But he's not even acknowledged it as a. himself. So, like, everyone's just put it together and it's a full new Instagram account. And this is your type? Like, we, like, I didn't know, but turns out. The teeth are crazy. I think it's just the teeth. So you're saying that, like, if, if you, if it were the 70s and like you had met one of the Rolling Stones, you would have been down bed, you would have been following. I think so. You would have been Penny Lane and almost famous running around.

So, yeah. And I didn't even know it until I started seeing the videos. And I was like, oh, this is my type. So what did you post? Well, I. posted me dancing to his song, and he commented and reposted it on his story. And so I feel like maybe that means something, right? Yeah. Are you dating Mr. Fantasy? I think you're Mr. Fantasy's number one groupie. I think so. Oh, by the way, Mr. Fantasy makes music. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, he created a song. Yeah. Okay. It's very interesting. It's really fun. And he's blown up. He's got like a million followers and like a month. So kind of a star. Could it be AJ? No, you need to make a, of a Vick Nile account.

Oh my God, yes. And wear a wig and sunglasses. Well, people think the wig that he's wearing is Mr. Fantasy is the dark Betty wig from Riverdale. If there are any Riverdale fans in the house? But what does Vic Nile do? He raps.

Oh, my God. Is this kind of rapper? Vick Nile is like a hardcore like West Coast. Oh, I was thinking like maybe you could really lean into the cowboy of it all, you know? Like you've got the new boots. It could really be like, you could be a real

Western. Like the masculine version of me. Yes. I could see that. Lumber jacking. Yeah, you should do like, um, like, lassoing a horse. What was that guy, Norm MacDonald did on Celebrity Jeopardy and he had the mustache and the big hat?

Bert Reynolds. Oh. Yeah. Uh, well, we have an amazing episode lined up for you guys. Lacey Chabair joins us later this episode. You know her from Mean Girls and all of your favorite. Hallmark Holiday Christmas movies. She has several projects coming up and she joins us later this episode to talk about them. Also talk about her time on Mean Girls. A lovely, lovely person

and a very just charming interview, just very nostalgic, very fun. We also have a great week lined up for you. Tomorrow's Going Deeper is with Amy Dugger King. If you are familiar with the Dugger family and all the craziness, some darkness that went on with that family. While Amy is with us tomorrow to talk about that experience. She gets into the nitty-gritty details. She has a new book coming out talking about that experience. It's an episode you will not want to miss. Also on Thursday's episode of Reality Recap, Rachel Lindsay joins the show to talk some Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. We'll just catch up with Rachel. It will be great to do that as well. I think we also have some dancing with the stars coverage. Love is Blind premieres this week.

So that is something we'll also get into on Thursday's episode of reality recap. So a lot of fun. ahead this week. In case you haven't listened to already, we had Trisa Judice last week on a going deeper episode for the ages. If you haven't gotten to know Trisa Judice and the real Trisa, this is an episode you do not want to miss. She is also appearing on Special Forces that came out last Thursday with her daughter, Gia, and because we didn't want to have any spoilers. We have a quick clip coming up shortly about Teresa talking about her special forces experience in episode one. It's a jam-packed cast, filled with a lot of Bravo people.

You had Brittany Cartwright. She was on it for a few minutes. Went home. I blinked. You know, I respect someone who goes into a situation, goes, no, this isn't for me. I was going to say, she made it further than I would have. I was like, the second that they yelled at me or pushed my face into mud and I'd be like, yeah, I'm out of here.

I feel like they kind of did her dirty by showing the clip of her saying, oh, my ex told me you're not going to make it for. I was like, y'all could have cut that because I felt so. TV show. No, you're right. You're right. The empath that may really hurt, though. It's for the Bravo people to get us to watch to be like, oh, maybe she'll prove him wrong.

I hope she does. Well, outside of social forces. I watched it and she went home. Yeah. But as I saw it too. And it really only took, was it Q being like, you're going to take it off? She's like, absolutely. She was like, yes, thank you for asking.

Oh, you want this. Okay, sure. Here you go. I love that she kind of kept using an excuse to like make her. herself feel better where she was just like I'm sorry like I just can't catch my breath or like my stomach hurts or whatever it is and it's just like just say you're going home right I'm like guys I can't have a headache also on it are jesse james decker and eric decker a couple husband and wife duo and they joined us for a going deeper episode two weeks ago they you got to check that out they really I love how

they talk about their relationship and how they are a team both obviously on special forces but really in life a very charming interview be sure to check that out if you haven't all Ready. Well, Mark Estes joined us last week. He's also on special forces. You might know him as a Montana boy. Also, people were coming from me saying that, like, I lost the plot of who's iconic. And I feel like iconic really only means, like, someone, people were picking on me. Because I said, Summer Ray, she's pretty like household name. I don't know. Like, people were like, who? Natalie says everyone's iconic. I'm like, sorry, I'm a nice person and you are rude, clearly. Yeah, to some people, Summer Ray is iconic. Yeah. Like, I think

you're totally valid in that. And I think it's just maybe the wrong demographic pick that one up because that's on them. Yeah, it's like, were you not trapped inside your house during 2020? Yeah. You were right on that one. I know who she is. And if Mary knows who she is, she's iconic. What's your favorite part about her, Mary? Um, she, her personality, you know. Of course. I was going to say her ass. Oh, she, oh, she's known for that ass. Yeah. Yeah. Good ass. Summer, Summer Ray. Yeah. Summer Ray. You have a good ass. I've been told. Well, be sure to check out special forces, but here is Trisa talking a little bit about her special forces experience. And if you want to catch the rest of her interview, again, it's last week's going deeper. But right now, here's a little Teresa Judice.

On the first episode, I thought, well, you are a saint because you offered to clean up everyone's poop. No, I didn't offer. That was one of my, that was, everyone gets a job duty. Yeah. Oh, you had bathroom duty? Yeah, that was my... No, you said, if anyone goes do-do or whatever.

Pooh or something, please tell me so I can clean it immediately. Well, you're right, you have to put, you put like a dust or something. They give you a job. Everyone gets a job. So, you know. But you took it like a champ, though. You weren't... No, but what I learned is like, that was the best job I could have got because I was, it was the first day. And no one wants to go to the bathroom the first day. Exactly. So nobody... Everyone's like, I'm just holding this shit, you know?

Exactly. Like, who wants to go? Like on, in a bucket. No, in a bucket, on plywood. Yeah, no. There was a bat. The bathroom was made out of plywood. Have you ever watched a Western?

Yeah. You know, the outhouse is made out of wood. Yes. Like a hole in it. That is what you use for the restroom. And there was 18 of us, because Gia was number 18, I was number 17. There was 18 of us in one shower. No.

Yeah. One shower outside. I took one shower the whole week. You did? Didn't have time. They were kicking our asses. Because you guys had 10 days. We only had eight days.

And I think it has to do with when you guys are in the desert, it gets so hot. They're like safety concerns that can, they can't do things. But with us, it was like 30 degrees. So we just went like 18 hours all day long. And there was just, we didn't have time. Wow. You're amazing. Good for you.

Well, obviously you had watched a couple. So you kind of knew what to expect. But were you shocked to hear just how aggressive the DSs are? I mean, I know in that one point you were like, that's mean. Yeah. No, I saw how. mean they were I was just like in my interview I was like they better not push me like they did Denise Richards like in her chest like off the boat. Remember how hard they pushed her like so hard

into the into the ocean? I was like if they do that to me I'll just die I'll die just right there I'm like if you I said to him in my interview I'm like if you want me to die then do that I'm like please I'm like do you want a liability yeah I'm like please don't do that because that would like first of it, I would be shocked. Like, that was rough. Like, just push. And especially because I don't know how to swim and being thrown into the ocean like that.

You're not prepared. You haven't had time to cold your nose yet. And I have breast implants. Like, you cannot do that to me. With that first, what were you doing? The jumping off the helicopter and scaling. Scaling? Is that what it's called?

No. Repelling. Repelling. Was that harder than what it looks? Because it looks like it would be easy. but then obviously it looks easy it looks easy

it looks like oh you just like pull the thing to the side and you just go down kind of slow like it looks like kind of fun

I mean the thing is like it's really high up and you have to learn the technique I mean I did hurt my hand because my hand got done

so this the top of my hand was black and blue and bruised really hard like I hit my vein because my hand got stuck so it's like

you know I thought I thought I was like I got this But then my hang it. I think, I mean, Nick, I remember him always saying this, like when we were watching back his season when it was airing and it was like, oh. It happens so quick and they're yelling at you. Yeah.

So it's like, and the helicopter's so loud. I mean, it's just a huge thing. And there's really no training. Yeah. No, exactly. This is how you do it. Oh, yeah. And exactly.

So they just throw, like, just to go. And I'm like, oh my gosh. It's like, exactly. Like, you can't even take five minutes to like make sure you have it right. and like, because it was so fast. Like, that's why my hand got stuck. Yeah. They're like, watch this and he's like 200 yards away, you know, as the demo.

Right. So, so it was, it was scary, but I'm glad I did it. I always wanted to jump out of a helicopter, so now I can say I did it. I'm curious how far Teresa will go. Me too. I think having someone with you that, like, can motivate you will make you go a little bit further. She's one tough cookie. She's one tough cookie.

Yeah. I wouldn't, I wouldn't mess with her. I also think her with her daughter. I feel like that has to push you so far. Even the way she was talking to her and she was like, I wanted to quit, but like I knew that you were there. I'm like, oh, my God, I wanted to cry. No, having that moral support is honestly huge there.

Just like. I, they asked me to send like a Nick a video. And I don't know how far along you got that video. At the very end. Oh, perfect. Okay, well. No, but it was really helpful. I was going to say that was a reason.

Stayed so long. It helped me finish for sure. It really did. I will say my favorite Teresa, a moment was them calling her stupid or something. She just goes, that's not nice. Yeah. That was amazing. So cute. So cute. I love that. I feel like she handled herself really well because I was like, this is not the Teresa I'm used to on Jersey. I was like, I was expecting her to push back and be like, whoa, whoa, what is this? But she's outside of her comfort zone. Yeah. I wonder if she will give some

pushback though. Like, are we going to see a little sad? Oh my God. Or like, what did she win? I don't know if they handle sas very well. No, they definitely don't. No. I'm definitely. already like falling for the edits i will say i'm like oh my gosh like feeling annoyed at certain people you know what i mean we're episode one like who what's his name jess jessie oh jessie smallat yeah yeah i'm like oh yeah he knows who i am right he knows like i don't know he knows everything about me it's like i think he just said he wreck maybe he's a fan of your work i actually thought the guy responded kind of nicely yeah cody yeah i was like oh i didn't think he yeah jessie uh jessie smallette But, well, you know, he's an interesting guy.

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day we get a little stressed out you know but like I think my favorite thing about you is this you're just you're always up for a challenge no i don't know if you feel this way but like it is so easy to like feel disconnected sometimes like you know sometimes i think in relationships you just feel like you always assume like your partner like can read your mind sometimes you know and like sometimes like that you know they always like distance like that quietness real great distance i don't know but i'm i'm just very appreciative that you uh we're always mindful of that you know yeah anyways like i'm just i'm glad i have a teammate and um you know and um i'm just i am just proud of us because i just think we i don't know like i'm i'm just the type of person who's

always worried about like what's around the corner like it's hard for me to enjoy things especially this weekend with the house being done and everything going great it's always like the fuck's gonna happen you know anyways it's this um you've done a good job of living in the moment though i'm doing my best you know but thanks for helping me out It's, um, I'm, I just like, yeah, I mean, Natalie's is so good at that. She's, um, I just think, yeah, other, other times it just, I know, like, we will have a stressful life, but like, Natalie's usually up for it, you know, he's always up for, like, I really feel like I have, I have a partner in the best possible way. Even though I throw in a couple complaints. It's not bad. You're not a nag, which is so great. It's really great. And when you are an Aggie, I just, you know. Ignore me. Yeah. But generally speaking, I mean, compared to like there's, I don't know, I just feel like there's a lot of couples. I mean, we've hung out with couples.

And also just like how we speak to each other in public is I think generally a pretty something I'm glad that we do a good job of. We've hung out with other couples where it was like, if we ever talk that way to each other around people and some people are just so comfortable doing it. Should we get a queen size bed? No. That's really cool. Can we talk about me? Sure, mayor. Thanks.

That was cute. That was cute. Yeah. Yeah. No, very sweet. That was cute. No, of course. So sweet. Yeah. Mary's like, I don't want that lifestyle. Yeah. I don't want your laugh. Yeah, that's awesome. I just found out something insane. Right? So, okay, I promise. So this past weekend, my sister, Aaron, is pregnant.

Shout out. Erin. Older, younger. Older. She is 35. Hey. She's pregnant with her first daughter. Congratulations. Shout out Aaron. Yeah, shout out, Aaron. Yeah, anyway, so I'm home for this baby shower, right?

And I... You went to Florida this weekend? Yeah. Pop-off. Yeah. Yeah, you approve my PTO. Oh, I don't... I don't, like, I don't just...

He didn't send us any photos. Yeah. So, like, I'm home at this baby shower. And yesterday before I left, I'm going through all of the things in helping my sister unpack all the gifts I got for her. And I was like, babies need a lot of shit and I didn't know that

Mary babies need so much shit They're so small But they need so much All they do is poop and pee and cry And then they grow out of shit So I have to buy more shit So fast Did you change a diaper?

Well no the baby's not there yet She's still pregnant Will you change a diaper? I'd be down to The thing is like my siblings Like kind of raised me Because they were all like teenagers When I was a little baby

So I kind of feel like I owe them Yeah you do Because they've changed my diapers But then at the same time, my sister said I'm not hot enough to have tattoos. So. Wait, your sister said that too? She did say, well, in so many words. Do you?

You don't have tattoos? No. And I was like, guys, I think I should get a tattoo. And my sister was like, I don't think you have to be hot to get a tattoo. That's what I said. And she was like, I don't know if you're hot enough with that. And that being said, you are hot. Yeah, exactly.

That being said you are hot. Thank you. Aaron. Anyway, I just had to get, I was really nice to her this weekend. so I really needed to say something mean. Listen, to get you out in the back. No, that reminds me of when we were setting up the rivers like bathroom here. And so me and Nick's mom, Mary, went to like Target and got the like non-slip, you know, for the bathtub little sticky suction thing and got her a bunch of like bath toys and whatever.

And I like filled up the bathroom. And then I, it made me think that like, oh, this is also the guest bathroom. And my best friend Chambliss was like, there's nothing more overstimulating than. taking a shower at your friend's house who has a baby. And it's like the stepstool, all the things in the shower, like all the toothpaste and all the baby. Like she's just like, it's so overstimulating. Like you cannot relax. And then when they move into the toddler stage and there's like locks on the toilet and you're like, how the fuck do I open this?

There's locks on everything. You're like, I'm just trying to get the extra toilet paper in here. Literally. Heaven forbid it's an emergency. No, exactly. I've had that happen. It's terrifying. My sister's also pregnant, by the way.

And she had her gender reveal this weekend. Ooh, I know. It's a girl. I know. How did they do the gender reveal? They did it in my parents' backyard and they did like poppers or something. Yeah. It was cute.

They FaceTime me in. Did you think it was a girl? Did you think it was a boy? Well, she wanted, I mean, they were happy with whatever, but she was like, I want a boy. And so I was like, you're going to get a girl. What are unacceptable gender reveals? Fire. Yeah, anything with explosives.

Like we did the whole balloon popping. good. I was happy with it. Yeah. I think the fireworks, you know, anything with live animals. Anything that can cause the city of Los Angeles to have a cataclysmic event. Right. Probably not good. Dying a living thing, a color. Yeah. I think the biting into the cupcake one is tough because then you're like mouth is full of cupcake. You can't really celebrate. You're like, oh. Also, I'm off sugar, so not possible. Nick wanted us to a river. And Nick was like, what if we, like, had someone, like, deliver flowers in, like, all blue or all pink? That's cute.

It would be cute. And I was, like, okay. It would be cute. Yeah. But then we'd have to, like, open up the front door together, you know. That's cute, actually. Can you imagine having, like, this really insane reaction to the person delivery person? They're like, okay.

Sorry. Right. They're like, oh, my God. They're like, why? TSA, we need a signature. Right. Right. Oh, Leo wants me to say that she did the cupcakes.

Oh. Did you all see the one with a wig where the mom was in on it? They popped the balloon and nothing came out. And then the mom had on like a wig. She pulled it off. And then she had on like the color. And it was, it was ecstatic. Like it was very lit.

It was super cute and also like out of way to make that about you. Literally. Let's talk about me. That's what it was exactly what it was. Somehow that all became about the mom. About the mom. Is there a world will ever not do a gender reveal and just wait for, the actual. I don't think so because like, I mean, people, you know, I don't know, people are always

like, there's not a lot of surprises left in life. And it's like, it's going to be a surprise either way. Like, it's a surprise if you pop a balloon. It's a surprise if you, if the doctor's like, it's a girl. You know, it's like, it's always going to be a surprise. So you're just like prolonging the surprise, I guess. I enjoyed finding out because especially as a father, it's very, it's just harder to connect with your baby. Well, it's easy to sort of like picture your life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot more fun. My brother waited for his second child, and it was actually really cool because we had no idea. It also saved everybody a ton of money, you know what I mean, leading up to it?

Because you're just buying like necessities. Right, necessities, neutrals. And so you're like, okay, well, wait. And then it was really exciting when. How did it save them money? I feel like it. Because people weren't buying, like, girl clothes or boy clothes or something? It saved me money, I guess I should say.

Like, you get so excited when you find out the gender and you're like, oh my gosh, I'm going to buy a mermaid costume. Yeah, my thing I was like, obviously, as I said before, I don't know what babies need. So I wanted to get something like from the heart, you know. So I got this like little like music box and it plays Swan Lake because I was a little wine drunk when I was ordering it. And then I heard the melody and I started crying. I was like, she's going to, because she might be a Scorpio. So I was like, she's going to need a melancholy melody that's very feminine in her life. And then like all the like my like cousins kids and stuff that were there were like,

obsessed when they heard it. And I was like, I ate. Wow, that's a good thing. Yeah. But then she was like, I would have loved burp cloths. But then someone else got them for it. Well, I'm not currently in the business of obsession with babies. But what I am obsessed with right now is the drama going on in the Bravo sphere between Tamara and Shina Shea and then Shina Shea and Lala Kent. And so if you're not familiar, Tamara went on watch what happens live and during a game was asked a question along the lines of who are you looking least forward to running into at BravoCon? Without hesitation, Tamara answers Sheena Shea, based off the podcast episode Tamara wasn't present for it, where Katie Janella and Teddy discussed that Sheena's actually the one

who was responsible for telling Kiki Monique about the outcome of naked wasted and Gretchen going to the hospital. Sheena recently did a podcast where she was asked about it and claimed that Tamara is behind stirring the pot and that Gretchen never lies, which I think is hysterical because we literally just watched Gretchen live straight to Tamara's face. And also during the episode to watch what happens live, Tamara also let it be known that at ABC upfront, Sheena and Brock told her that it was Sheena's dream to be an Orange County housewife, to which Andy responded, I thought her dream was dancing with the stars. Savage.

Yeah, so savage. Which also leads me into less upfront drama between Sheena and Lala. A week or two ago, Lala did an Amazon live where she was asked about Sheena, and she responded, Sheenaing, which people watching thought it sounded like shade, come to find out Lala has been on every big cast trip in the valley. and Sheena hasn't filmed at all for the Valley. Is this confirmed or is this a rumor? It's confirmed that Sheena has not filmed for the Valley and that Lala has been on cast trips.

Yeah, didn't they just go on a cast trip? They just went to a cast trip to San Diego and Zach posted a photo. The only two people who are not like confirmed cast members are Lala and Tom Schwartz. And they were both in the photo. No Sheena, no bra. Beautiful. Love some Tom Swartz. Right?

So then the rumor has it that Bravo was upset with how Sheena handled the press for her book. I don't know if it also has to do with how they kept the secret of the affair during the last season of Vanderpump Rules, but people are thinking that this is a repercussion. Why would they be upset with it? Just because, like, Sheena kept it for herself. Didn't she kind of shade Bravo? She was, yeah, she was throwing a lot of shade about Bravo and production and all of these things throughout her press interviews.

So it's like Bravo was catching strays left and right because Sheena was on her high horse at that moment, obviously. But it sounds like she's vying for an orange holding spot. And one thing I will give her, I said, regardless, no one can take away from her that she is a New York bestselling author. So true. So true. No. I'm a USA Today bestselling author.

Get it. You have to sell 10,000 copies, I believe, nationwide to become a best seller. It's about your pre-orders or something like that. Well, also, Nick, it's like USA, New York. You know, USA is a whole country. Yeah. New York, one city. Right.

But yeah, Tamara's not looking forward to seeing Sheena. And then Adriana was also on that episode. And she's also not looking forward to seeing Sheena because Sheena caused drama between her and Captain QD, which is Captain Jason from Below Deck. Apparently, Adriana and Captain Jason were dating for a minute there and that Sheena got involved texting him and that they stopped speaking. I love that Below Deck is always at the scene of the crime. So BravoCon is coming up and, like, I couldn't be more excited that we're actually going to have boots on the ground to tell us what is going on because the drama is going to be palpable. I believe I'm making my first Bravo Khan appearance. Vic Nile will be there, everybody.

I'm so proud. I can't reveal with Who yet, but I am working with a company. And I will be taking photos with fans. One of my favorite things to do. If you know me, you know it's a real dream to engage. With the people. Yeah. You are a man of the people.

What a thrill. I'm excited about BravoCon. Yeah. I wonder if you'll hear or see any of these like rumblings. I'm wondering in who, who, like, what Bravo celebs will want to hang out with me. They'd be smart to, you know what I mean? Oh my God. If you're chatting about their shows, it's like.

You know what I've found out over the weekend? Shep Rose is exactly one day older than me. Oh. So we're both. Happy 45th birthday, Shep Rose. Happy birthday, Shep. Wait, Natalie. are you going no well we got to put a put an electric fence around him in case adriana sees him in person

that's so real remember she said for one night right he did get a hall pass right you did give him a one day hall pass for adriana yeah yeah sure if you want it i love that nick demora which uh do you want to listen to the dog song again because i love my dog i love to cuddle with with my dog. I love my toothbrush. It's giving Phoebe from friends. It is. Do you think Bad Bunny will perform that at the Super Bowl halftime show?

Bad Bunny is your musical guest for the halftime show of this year's Super Bowl. I love how everyone's like, it's going to be Taylor. It's going to be Taylor. Yeah. I was told it was Adele. Yeah, I heard Adele passed. Adele passed? I heard that.

Is she like passed? I think she's passed several times. Adele passed. It doesn't feel like, I love Adele, but I don't know that it feels like the vibe, you know? Yeah, I feel like Bad Bunny throws a party. You know, Adele, you sit your ass down and listen. Yeah. Yeah.

I would fuck with Adele. You would? Yeah. It's not really like the hype vibe of Super Bowl. When J-Lo did the Super Bowl half-time show, like I didn't even realize how big of a fan I was of hers until like every song and I was like up dancing the entire time. So I think I agree with you like where I'm like, I would be singing maybe sobbing if Adele was performing.

But like you do want to like dance and be like, all right, finally, I can get a break from this football. Well, hopefully the Super Bowl won't end in a tie, like the Packer Cowboys game ended on my birthday. But at least they didn't lose. I don't know. Maybe that would have been better. A tie was really just fucking lame. Which I didn't even know you could tie in. Like, I thought like when you go into overtime, you go, you do like second overtime, third overtime.

Is that just the SEC? I know some of you aren't going to care about this little rant. But like the NFL has continued to change their overtime rules a little bit for the better. But then it used to be just another quarter, which is 15 minutes. For some reason, now it's 10. It doesn't make any fucking sense. It was annoying. I don't know.

I don't know what, like, you know, imagine a housewife fight that just ended in a tie. Like, both sides forgive. But, like, do we have to guess which team's going to win because we just know the Chiefs are going to win because Taylor Swift's husband doesn't lose? Well, they lost last year. Well, the Chiefs famously lost last year. Yeah. Kind of washed, if you ask me.

And it shows I didn't watch. Yeah. The Steelers also were in Ireland and won. And I actually watched a Steelers game because I was home and had to. too, but I enjoyed her. I feel like I need to freshen up on my Bad Bunny songs, you know? Do you think he'll ask you to be part of the musical

act since you're in a Bad Bunny video? I was going to say, don't you know one? That's so true. Yes, I am going to be a backup dancer. That's my wife. Yes, if you do not know, I am in the music video for Ohitos Lindo. Get it.

Yeah, that's me in there. I'm in the Mets. I'm on a couple dates with Bad Bunny, so. Wait, really? Yep, that's me in there. We did a drive-in movie. Oh, okay, in the video. In the video, okay.

He was like, couldn't get Natalie, so I guess I'll go for Kendall Jenner. Speaking of Bad Bunny and Sheena Shea, what did she say about Bad Bunny at the S&L thing, that he, like, thought she was a Kardashian or something? Oh, that she kept saying that, like, he was making eye contact with her and, like, eye-fucking her from across the room. And she was like, I must have, like, reminded him of his ex. It was a very delusional. So bold. I got to say, you know, just for everyone out there, just. because someone's looking at you doesn't mean they're checking you out.

I'm always observing people constantly and judging them. I also need that reminder, though, because I'm always like, oh, my God. Literally eye fucking. They probably like, that bitch has kale in her tooth. She said that he was eyeing her while she was out dancing and her direct quote was, Bad Bunny was giving your girl the up and down. Every time I turned around, his eyes were on me. Your girl.

When? He would not stop staring. Is that the after party for them? So like the Cowboys are America's team? and Sheena Shea is your girl. Dear girl, I and your girl, up and down. Up and zone. All right, should we get into some Miami?

I didn't know Giuliana did opera. Neither did I. Did you guys? Did we know that? Was that a fun fact? Yeah, she did it last season. She did a performance for Martina. I don't know what Mary's rapid recap is going to say,

but before we jump into it, and Natalie clocked this, but what a wild choice for Julia to put her new adopted twins in a Balenciaga T-shirt. For those of you who don't remember, not too long ago, Balenciaga was caught up in a very salacious scandal when they had young children

in like S&M bondage type of... Like photo shoots. So like, just kind of like just a weird choice? And celebrities are trying to make them like it again. And I just, I don't really know how you come back from that. So I haven't forgiven them, but apparently Julia has, if you missed this past episode of the.

Real Housewives of Miami. Here is your rapid recap. The finale is finally here. Alexia, actually, we... She wasn't wrong. She wasn't wrong. It felt like there was more to the story. Marisol brings Christmas to hot weather of Miami. Meanwhile, Alexia is simultaneously throwing a beauty bar happy hour. Which one are you going to? Jill Zarin is in the crowd and Marisol is wearing a hat, question mark. Wait, is it a lufa? No, it's a tree. Adriana calls Julia a covert enemy. Alexia's son is questioning Todd's love for Alexia. Julia throws an event between the Florida Grand Opera and her children's foster care program in case you were wondering, Santa is still fat in Miami. Larsa doesn't want to be a scrooge and is peaceful around Jody. Adriana is late to her own concert and Stephanie

is not having the J-Lo moment. The only difference is the Miami J-Lo plays a piano and loves her dog. Julia is happy for Adriana, but Adriana calls her weird. The mask is off. Adriana storms off and calls Julia off for her nine engagements. And to dig further, Adriana calls Julia a user incites her old apartment. Julia claimed she was being controlled behind closed doors. She's done. To wrap it all up, Kiki releases a drink for the Haitian Health Foundation. Marisol claims she told Adriana to act like she said wretched tea. Adriana calls Marisol old and wretched, dare we say, going to a funeral. Marisol says Adriana is going to an ice skating rink. No, finding out that Marisol was the one who

told Adriana to say wretched and not ratchet and blame it on her accent was crazy. Crazy. Right. But then in the confessional, she made it seem like she was like, oh, go with this. But then it seems like there's a dispute now. I'm like, are we going to see something at the reunion like i need to see this i need to see the clip does anyone else just like not give a fuck like me it just feels like they're really trying to milk this storyline well i think adriana is maybe trying to milk it because then she's like oh you called me racist kiki talked to my friend that was wild carl that was crazy we're gonna call on a backup here's my black friend yeah like find my racist battle for me it was like this is weird kiki's like no one ever even said that by the way right

And it's like, well, now I think you might be. Right. After you pulled that stunt. Yeah. I don't know. The thing is, like, I love some Adriana Demora, but it was really, it was kind of getting hard to defend her at the end of this. And I really need to know, like, who's lying?

Because I also love Marisol, but I'm like, who's telling the truth in this? I can't tell. I don't think there's a lie. I think Marisol did help Adriana, where she thought that they were on. And she would stop being to her. And then the second that, like, shit started to hit the fan, Marisol couldn't wait to pull it out of her arsenal. In defense of Adriana, I don't think she had any clue what either of those words meant.

And I certainly don't think that she realized what maybe like the stereotypes or implications might mean behind one of those words. She clearly does now because she was quickly like, and Marisol, you're old and miserable and you're wretched. He has to turn around in Alexia of all people being like, stop, don't do this to yourself, Adriana. Alexia doesn't like her just as much as Marisol. Did anyone else find it weird that Adriana wanted complete silence before she walked out on stage? Like, didn't she, doesn't she want a hype train? I didn't quite understand this. Yeah.

I think she was trying to have her diva moment of like, I'm trying to get into the zone and like meditate. Like she's Mariah Carey and it's like, girl, get on stage with that eyeliner. You look like you dress for a skating rink was wild. Yeah, that was awesome. You know what? It's funny because I was like, you know what? I see it. Yeah.

Yeah. Nancy Kerrigan, the house down boots. But also, Bravo did her zero favors with the audio of her singing. Yeah, they didn't like pull like a direct link. It was basically like someone with their iPhone filming the concert in the back room. So it's hard to really even tell if she sounded good or not because Bravo really did her dirty. And I will say that going back to what you said, Nick, about how it's not the biggest of deals. I'm like, I feel like we just kind of glossed over like Julia throwing...

water on somebody who's literally healing from cancer and it's just like but Adriana mispronouncing a word or whether her intention whatever it was I'm like that's the biggest deal that you guys saw that was wrong with this season yeah yeah because it's like the valley it's like get again or like Jason and everyone focusing on Danny versus Jacks where I'm just like wait I feel like there's bigger issues here than Adriana's accent yeah and then also not for nothing Adriana did sound better live than Julia just gonna say do you think so actually I kind of disagree. I feel like Julia

set herself up for failure by it was her with a professional opera singer. So you could hear every single little like How long has, has Julia been an opera singer for a long time? No, a year. She got into a year ago? Yeah, like practicing. Well, first of all,

before I talk my shit, she was actually pretty good. But I babe, please do not. If you're going to find a hobby, like don't have it be something so, I don't know, it's like, something where you have to perform in public and, yeah, and be taken seriously in a way. Like, our dear friend Charlene Joint is an opera singer. She's been doing it her whole life. She's quite stunning and lovely at it. And I just feel like there's certain things you don't

just like, pick up, you know, and then demand people to listen to you. And again, it's not like knitting bubble blankets. Right. Like, yeah, it's not like crochet, you know, or, you know, painting. It's a weird it's a weird hobby to jump into it is but she was i mean she was pretty good i mean i don't know i'm just anti julia to be honest so all i know is that i want to not leave this earth not going to one of marisol's parties or events it did it looked so fun so real so lush they're like cocoa changed into your pajamas yeah and what were those pajamas nice neat yeah what brand we need we need can we get a PR package because literally not lisa trying to like convince her eight-year-old old son to get a manicure. He's like, no, she's like, yes. It's like, why can be this kid, get his

nails done? He kept that in. He's so his father's son. He was just like so uninterested with her and was just like, yeah, no. And I was like, it's giving Lenny. Yeah. Do you think she wanted to do it to like spend quality time with the boy? Well, he was already with her at the nail salon. So it's like they were already together and it was like she just wanted to give him something to do. I'm sure than just like sitting there. I'm sure he had an iPad. Also, what a bummer though for like Alexia to be throwing that event at this the same day. Although I would have said yes to it. I demanded that I got my nails painted when my mom wouldn't paint my

scissors nails. Oh, really? Do you still get a manicure now and then? No, I should as an anal bitters. I've had a petacres. A couple of pedicures. My toenails needed a clipping over the weekend, and so I used my fingers. What do you mean?

Just kind of ripped it off. What do you mean? Is that gross? You want to know it's grosser than that? If you say you put it in his mouth, I'm going to walk out. Sierra. Nick? If you have something in your teeth

Not my toenails, not my toenails I will use a fingernail as a toothpick For sure 100%. Isn't that insane, guys? I don't you, I mean, I do bite my nails But I don't use them as toothpick You wouldn't then take that nail

And stick it in between your teeth And like get out a piece of steak. You would never know I bite my nails. My nails look like I have a pedicator. Sierra, are you okay? I am unwell. I am unwell and I am not okay. I'm crying and gagging.

So, wait, are you just going to, like, let that piece of food stood in there if you don't have a tooth? No, you use your hair. Use your hair. What is going on at the house of the house of the miles? I've definitely used my hair before. Thank you. That is crazier than a fingernail. No, it is not.

Postmates on your phone. I know that you have access to floss somehow, some way. No, listen, I floss my teeth every single night, but this is like in an emergency in the car. or out somewhere. No, no, no. You don't floss, your teeth flaws at home. Well, I don't floss. I'm speaking for myself currently.

Apologies to all the dentists. I was going to say, your gum health is important. Yeah. Although my dentist, by the way, shout out Dr. King from Auburn, Alabama, I did get a text message from him. Saying you're due. No, wishing me a happy birthday.

Oh, that's nice. You said happy birthday. Your teeth so. My dentist randomly is in Auburn, Alabama. Do you go out there to see your dentist? I, listen, I, you know, I'm, I feel like I take pretty good care of myself. Uh, I look good for my age, as Mary has pointed out, um, but yeah, I'm, um, I'm not awesome at going to the dentist and I hadn't gone in maybe, be honest, a decade, uh, and then

we were, I was visiting Auburn, Alabama a couple years ago for, and, you know, not much to do for me out there and I was like well this would be a good time to go to a dentist he went to my childhood dentist I actually love that he got me right in and then we went out the next year so I was like I'll go back to Dr. King so anytime I'm in Auburn Alabama I hit up uh Dr. King yeah wow there's so many shoutouts in this episode yeah a lot of shoutouts in this episode for sure we just have so much love for so many things in people you know people who do good work we appreciate them it's a really strong community you have shout out Ben for helping us build this studio.

Shut up. Okay, what's going on in O.C.? What's going on in Orange County? Gretchen's a liar. Gretchen has a horrible fashion sense. This episode of O.C. was the worst fashion I've ever seen. First of all, Gretchen's ITM look has always been bad. But the Laura Croft was exceptionally bad.

My favorite was Heather Dubrow walking in saying, G.I.J. And she goes, no, I'm Laura Croft. It really is. We have Laura Croft at home. it was the guys this this it was the studded belt I did this same look for Halloween four years ago it's like you find a jumpsuit you get the little studded belt and you put some like you know things holsters hooked on it and do a great she should do an ad for that bra though yeah the body was tea y'all the body was tea I couldn't look away I fell for it sadly her personality is like well if

you have no idea what we're talking about and you missed the last episode of the rehearsal of Orange County. Here is your rapid recap. First, we start off with a flashback rewind moment. And in the name of Tamara Judge, what do you know about me, bitch? Jen is overthinking about her September wedding, but Ryan wants her to stop waffling, aka a beach wedding. Gretchen and Slade discussed Tamara's singing voice, or do I say, drowning rat. Slade apologizes for bringing up Tamara allegedly cheating. Gretchen was just trying to be campy and funny. Jen's daughter wants a boyfriend in high school. Um, who didn't? Then we get a self-defense class. Gretchen shows up as Amazon Laura Croft and OK body. Meanwhile, the rest of the rest.

of the group are pranked by carjacking. Emily blows the whistle and tells Tamara about Slade's accusations and boom, Tamara appears stunned and would love to hear the recording. Gretchen shoots a fireball and Tamara has had it. Of course, Slade said something stupid and suddenly Heather and Emily catch the stray. Gretchen

alleges she kept her mouth shut and apparently it'll get ugly for her. So the real question is who's trying to run whose life here? Also, I'm sorry, whose vibrator was up? Whose vagina? Can I just have to say, that I do think that there is an art to Bravo

and like how they do these seasons because last season obviously couldn't stand Tamara and then the beginning of this season with Katie I'm still Team Katie no matter what but bringing Gretchen and Slade back in somehow humanizes Tamara to the point to where I'm like

fuck Gretchen and Slade team Tamara this is dirty this is gross and like Slade you're the standup where he body shamed Tamara Oh my God that was crazy Who are you, Theo Vaughn doing his Netflix special? Oh, no, he called Vicky Miss Piggy, and she had that nickname, like, stick with her for years as, like, a grown-ass woman and end up getting work done.

Can you imagine being a middle-aged man getting into comedy and your whole bit is just body-shaming women in your community? Literally. Could you imagine being a middle-aged man with a daughter and you're still doing this type of shit to ruin another grown-ass woman's life? Could you imagine being a middle-aged man and deciding, now's the time for me to get into comedy? Can you imagine being a middle-aged man? I can't actually yeah Nick's like I've had the thought Yeah

I was right in the thought Yeah but you're not like going and doing stand-up And shaming women's bodies You know what I mean? The material might look different Yeah also watching him do that scene with Gretchen It just is such a stark difference In watching Eddie or

I'm not going to say Ryan Because Ryan is kind of a performer too But who else? Shane? Yeah it's just like Matt, Katie's husband it's like the difference with how Slade like turns it on

for the camera is so gross also you know she's lying because like you know when you have accusations and then you and you're vague about it it's like the whole like everyone says this about you well what do they say? Well I'm just not going to say you know like they were just

they were saying things and whatever they weren't good they weren't good so you should be worried such a manipulative of gross thing and like yeah and that and you know because like Tamara's like well then fucking just say it you know because there's nothing there and it's so I really hate them when people do that it's it's bully behavior I mean and also Gretchen being like I've been told so many things about you and I've kept my mouth shut for all these years do you want me to

start saying him it's like yeah and then the producer's like what did she say I'm not going to say next question you like could like you would protect Tamara like nothing about It shows me that she would want to protect Hemra. There's no incentive. I'm watching throughout, like, I'm watching all the old seasons of Orange County. I'm in, like, season 11 now. And I'm like, this is pretty standard between Slade and Gretchen, that whole, like, sit down where she's just like, oh, God, you really pissed me off when you said that. They've had this conversation so many times.

That's Gretchen's way of taking zero accountability for what her husband said and claiming that, like, oh, I had no idea he was going, her life partner. I had no idea what he was going to say And she says it at the table If Slade said something stupid Then like that's on him And it's like, no, you're a partnership You knew what he was going to say But you rehearsed your way of being like

Oh, my hands are clean I wasn't the one who said it Slade and Gretchen kind of remind me Of you know, in the Emperor's New Groove Eismah And then what's the gronk? Grong? Yeah, he's her gronk

And it's like She's behind it she's like pull the lever gronk pull the lever gronk yeah but slade's just equally as evil like i feel like they both try to act like they're like oh she ruins our lives oh it's been 15 years if you can't move on from a cup from some shit 15 years ago like why are we here also like carjacking prank not a good prank no stupid risky if i had been in that car he would have been done for yeah yeah it's like what like I feel like someone I don't know is now going to like I'm actually shocked none of these people had like pepper spray or like like uh like not one ounce of why were your windows down they all

have their hair down yeah all their windows down's like first of what are you doing roll your window up it is crazy like oh he's digging in the trash meanwhile their window is still down yeah a couple people who travel a lot and and drive in different parts of our country road rage really hits different depending on where you are. Yes, absolutely. You know, if you accidentally cut someone off in, let's say, Wisconsin, it's still, like, a little. Yeah, my bad. Like, please don't do that.

Excuse me. Sorry. Sorry. In L.A., it's like they. You might get shot. Now I got in threatened once. It was so scary, y'all. We were leaving the studio, going home, and this, like, old suburban, like, it's going

from two lanes into one after a red light, okay? so here I am in the right lane that I'm supposed to be in and this car I'm running shotgun like a man and this car comes flying through the yellow light probably was red by then and like gets in front of me whatever like so I'm like that was so dangerous he's going so fast so I'm kind of just like looking at him I the one thing about me is I am such an observer and if I am at the park and there's something that goes wrong and the officers like did you see the I'm like yeah this is your license plate. Like I am that much of an observer. So I'm like looking at his license plate. I'm looking at like what I can remember about this person if I were to need to give his description. Wow. And we get to the next red light. And I guess he was looking at me from his side mirror. So we were like kind of making eye contact and he was a scary individual. Okay. We get to the next red light and he pulls to the side, which again is not the road. And he stops. So I have to pull up beside him and his windows down. And he literally gives me like the finger handgun. and says watch to yourself

and I was like Oh my gosh And he basically He said something I'm going to let you live today And I honestly believed him It was like this person's killed someone before 100%

That's so scary That's so scary Yeah Oh can I tell you guys My favorite road rage story From growing up in Florida Yeah Florida Right so okay

So as we've discussed before My dad's a pastor Praise Jesus Praise Jesus One time we were driving home from church. Me and my dad in the car. And we were in Sarasota at the time. There's this really big bridge called Ringling Bridge. And we're driving across the bridge and my dad accidentally cuts off this motorcycle that he didn't see. And the guy on the motorcycle like swerved and came back up and like

got up. My dad had his window down and like got really like up in my dad's face and like started screaming at him. But then my dad was still wearing his collar and his like pastor collar. And then the guy like clocked to the collar and then was like, repent. He thought he was talking to God. He thought he was yelling at God and he was like, oh, fuck. And then just kind of like eased back. Eased back. And

I was like, wait, should I go to seminary? Were you like, my dad so cool? I was like, that's kind of really cool. Yeah. Wow. Anyway, yeah. That's one of the perks of being a pastor. If you wear your collar, you can get away with a lot of shit. Well, speaking of Jesus.

And speaking of cool. of Lacey Chabair is up next to talk about some of her projects. She's got the haul out the Halloween premiering Saturday, October 11th on Hallmark. Also, the celebration with Lacey Chabair season two now streaming on Hallmark Plus. And she also has another Christmas movie coming out called She's Making a List, which premieres December 6th. She is with us next to talk about all that plus. Her time as Gretchen Wieners as one of the mean girls. And just like, you know, we all love a Hallmark movie, and she is the queen of Hallmark movies.

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Because home isn't just where you live. It's how you feel. Let's go home with Cozy Earth. Lacey, welcome to the show. Thanks so much for having me. This is fun. We're so excited. So excited. I mean, do people generally just get really excited

anytime they meet you, you know, just being the icon that you are? People are very, I love meeting people. People are always actually like super friendly and whether they're, you know, saying they enjoy the movies on Hallmark Channel or That's So Fetch. Like someone there's always,

I love meeting people. You hope people are going to like the work that you're a part of. And so it means the world to meet to meet someone who does. How many times do you think have you said that's so fetch since filming Mean Girls? If I could tell you the amount of times I've said it in making videos for people's daughters and nieces and daughters. It's a lot. It's a lot. Or they'll be like, can you write that Sofetch? I'm like, absolutely. Oh, of course. I loved, I mean, I loved me in girls. It was such an incredibly fun movie to be a part of. I can't believe it was 20 years ago. And it was just such a, a lovely thing to do. I saw that in theaters. Did you really?

Multiple times. You have a daughter, right? I do. My little Julia just turned nine years old. Nine. Wow. The love of my life. And, yeah, she's in third grade.

And she, you know, children are so humbling. And she keeps it so real when I want to. real opinion, she will absolutely tell you. And it's just so fun to watch her grow and to see the world through her eyes. Is she a fan of your work? Yeah. She's also my, a real critic. What is she, what's her recent review? I mean, she'll be like, don't wear your hair like that again. Like she'll, yeah. She's like, I, I don't like that. Or I love it. You wore colors. Like, you always wear black in real life, mom. Like, oh, you and your black leggings and you're, I'm like, it's my uniform. Like, you're always in sweatpants at home.

Exactly. Okay. Whoa. She literally says that. You're always wearing sweat pants and leggings. Our daughter's 19 months and she's on the verge of talking. She's at the age where she's like talking to herself and like be like me, me, me, me, ma'am. And then she's learning like a new word every day.

It's been pretty fun. Isn't it just magic? She's giving sass and talking back. I feel like she will be giving us notes as well. It's the best. If I can offer one piece of unsolicited advice, write stuff down, especially the cute stuff that she says. That's like, because you think I'll never forget this,

but then something else happens and you do. And my husband and I are always reminiscing. I'm like, remember when she used to say that word wrong? Or remember when she used to do that. I mean, I remember when she was really little, probably about that age. And she would like go with her hands up and look up at me and go, hold you. And she meant hold me.

Hold you. And I was like, please don't ever say it right. I know I've been trying to get I know I've been trying to get River to say that now I started with just being like you want up and so she would say up please up please and now I'm like do you want me to hold you because I want her to do the hold you too it's so sweet she's learned like I did like the first year of her life I did like a full baby book and took all these polaroids and wrote everything down and then I feel like after the year you just like have a toddler and you're like oh my god I have no time to scrapbook and And, like, right. So, but it's so true. I don't want to forget the cute stuff. So I do need to be better. It's the best. And you know what's so cool, too, like my daughter has, because of our phones, she has a picture or a video from almost every single day of her life. And it's such a different way. I think that kids are growing up these days where, like, I have like seven photos from my childhood. And they've all been in Hallmark movies. Like they're always asking for family photos. I have so few photos and almost no videos. And so I love that she has. this whole documentation of her life and it's like such a cool thing

I think for her to look back at it and she'll sometimes come to and be like can we look at the baby can we see me as a baby and it's really fun to like obviously for me to get to relive that but then to see her look at herself like that it's kind of sweet that's so sweet

I bet it also brings that memories for you because she's probably like what were we doing here and why were you know like asking questions yes and that that's been one of my favorite parts honestly of being a mom it's I've gotten to relive some of my best childhood memories and some of my favorite moments with her in the traditions that we carry on.

And like, you know, I remember being, making this certain recipe every Christmas with my great grandma and my grandmother. And now I get to do that with her. And just the full circle part of that, like, just brings me such joy. And I mean, it all ties into why I enjoy making these movies so much truly. Yeah. What reason why we're not with you in person is we're up at the lakehouse, which we just got done, we, uh, remaking. And it was the same property. My grandfather built and so now that river's here it's like it was like a core memory for me in my childhood so now that river's here i get to see like she's loving it up here and so yeah just like you said just to relive it back as a is a something i'm really looking forward to with river that is so special oh

i wish you guys all that's awesome well speaking of special and you obviously have made such an amazing career doing you mentioned hallmark movies all these like family friendly movies you have three projects that you're coming up over the next few months you're booked and busy like do you have favorites like I mean even like obviously you've done over 40 Hallmark movies I think something like that do you have favorites that you've done and then of the projects you're doing right now tell us a little bit about each one it's like impossible to pick a favorite because they really are special for different reasons I know that sounds so cliche but it's not just the movie that's special to me it's like the experience of it I remember what I was going through in my life

when that one filmed or the crew or you know i met like someone who became a best friend like it's really the life stuff that happens behind the scenes that means so much but i'm so excited about what i have going on right now we season one and two of celebrations is streaming on hallmark plus and it's a show that is so close to my heart and like it was i was a passion project with everyone involved where we celebrate heroes who are just incredible people doing amazing things in their community, people who are making a real difference in the lives of so many people. And to be able to give them this, we take three days to plan a surprise party with LA party stylist, Lisa Marissa, incredible planners. And it's not just about the party, though. It's about celebrating

their work and, you know, hearing firsthand accounts from people that they really have affected their lives. And I think now more than ever, we just need to highlight all of the good. And that is just a show I'm so proud of. So if you want to just feel good and you also love a little DIY and party and celebration, that will be the show for you. And then October 11th on Hallmark Channel, I have Hallout the Halloween premiering, which is the third installment in the Hallout series about these neighbors who are crazy about Christmas, but now they've turned the tables and it's all about Halloween. And my dearest friend in real life, Kimberly J. Brown and her husband, Halloween Town. Halloween Town.

They join us for this one. So it was so much fun to reunite with that cast and, of course, with my best friend. And it's also just, it's so fun to celebrate. I mean, all of the Hallmark movies I do, it's all about community and bringing people together. And I think that they do that in people's living rooms when people watch. And so I'm thankful for the chance. When do you typically film these movies? Like, I know it's coming out in October.

So did you get to, like, film this back in, like, February and have Halloween and, like, the beginning of the year? Yes, it is. year-round holiday celebration for me you're so lucky yeah we actually filmed this one in salt lake city in may so it was really fun but typically we're filming the christmas ones in the summer which is great because i get two Christmases every year pretty much but also a hundred degrees and you're wearing a coat and a scarf and a parka and like i think i've trained my face to actually not sweat anymore yeah teach me literally How did you even fall into being like the Hallmark Queen that you are?

I mean, obviously you had your iconic movies with Mean Girls, but like, is this something that you aspired to? Did it organically happen? Like, you know, like you've really made this amazing career from it. My gosh, thank you so much. I don't know how this all happened. Truthfully. I mean, this business, I've been doing this for 35 years and you never know what tomorrow holds.

And I, Hallmark offered me a movie called Elevator Girl, and it was like 15 years ago now, I think. And I filmed it, and it was a blast, and it was a fun movie, and I never knew if they'd call again. And here we are. I just finished my 44th movie, actually, for them a couple of days ago. And I'm so deeply grateful for the opportunity to tell stories that I think people can see themselves in. You know, it's always a goal of mine to tell a story and portray a character that's like, Oh, I've been there. I relate to that. And then at the end of the day, you know, you're going to be left with an uplifting ending. And, you know, feel good. And just, I love, I love being a representative for Hallmark because it's, it's, it's what highlights the good in the world.

All the way back to the card company. You know, it's, it's about celebrating milestones and being a part of people's celebrations. And so I just, I love it. And I do love Christmas. Like, I'm, I know it's controversial, but I'm going to put up my Christmas tree. soon. I just No, November 1st. We're November 1st. You're my people. Yes. Yeah. So wait.

We don't, we do fall and Halloween the exact same time and that's September 1st through October 31st. And then November 1st is Christmas on. I love it. But do you go all out at home? Do you have like several Christmas trees in your house? I do.

I have to hide them from my husband. because he's like enough with the Christmas decorations. I may have ordered another one last week. And I'm hoping to intercept the box before he sees it. Yeah. Yeah, I just love it. The more the better. More is more.

Agreed. You're also kind of the queen of Christmas. So I think you have to. There's an expectation. He can't stifle you. I think, yeah. I mean, he's like, do you? But poor thing, he has to help me pick it all up.

But I just love it. I like a different theme for every tree. I like, like I do, I let Julia do her room however she wants. And then I'm sorry to keep plugging things, but it just goes hand in hand with what you're saying. I have a line coming out with Hallmark that'll be at the Hallmark Gold Crown stores. And it's Christmas decorations. It's a beautiful ornament set, things you can use for your holiday celebration, a tray, a tea towel, and mugs and cardline and wrapping paper. See, I would absolutely buy your Christmas decorations.

Will you really? Yes. I feel like, oh my God. Between, it's like Jesus, Santa, and Lacey. You know? Like, that's the people who know Christmas the best. And that is the correct order. Yes, 100%.

Yeah, I don't, no disrespect to the God and Santa. Yes. So, true. Thank you. I'm going to make sure to send you some. I hope I hope you enjoy it. Please. Yes.

Yes. We'll, apparently we have several trees coming this holiday. You can never have enough decorations, so please. Lacey, before we let you go, we have a fun game. We want to play with you that Mary put together. Mary, would you like to explain to Lacey how we play this game in the spirit of a Hallmark holiday film? I would love to.

So another thing we talk about on this show a lot is Housewives. And I wanted to play a game with you called Hallmark. or housewives, in which we are going to read you some very dramatic plot lines, and you are going to have to guess and tell us whether you think they're from a Hallmark storyline or a Real Housewives storyline. I mean, the two really do crossover, it seems so here we go. It does. So, the first one is, a last-minute work trips turns into something more when unexpected travel

delays force two people together. Hallmark. Yes, it is. Do you know the movie? A Christmas detour Jingle Bell Bride Okay Sorry

Detour Okay It's okay Take that part out Yeah yeah no no She got it She got it Um

A family event explodes After someone shows up Where they don't belong I'm gonna go with housewives For that one It's homework Really?

What movie was that? A very merry mix-up Someone ends up At the wrong family's house Oh I'm gonna have to watch that one That seemed like a trick question Mary

I was giving housewives I don't know, maybe I, like, wrote this game, so it would be a little hard. A sudden health crisis bind strangers together in surprising wins. I'm going to go with, oh, I mean, it could be either, but I'm going to go with HouseWay. Hallmark. Really? What movie was going to do? A stranger's heart.

Oh, my goodness. I got to watch. Heart transplants. I thought I'd seen them all. A high-profile relationship collapses just as a new one. take shape in plain sight. Housewife? Yeah.

Okay. Uh-huh. Yeah. It was real housewives of Beverly Hills, Camille's dinner party from hell. Let's see. An elegant dinner unravels when someone drops a bombshell about a partner. Ah.

I feel like you're trying to trick me again. I don't know if I trust you. I'm going to go with housewife. It is housewives. Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right.

That would have been. Yeah, that would have been crazy. I don't worry. Friendships. after allegations of dishonesty about a serious illness. Oh, housewives? Yes. Okay.

Ooh, she's on a roll. An important project hindrance on securing rare flowers, but emotions complicate the mission. Homer. Yes. Chinklebell bread. Yeah. A luxury getaway devolves into chaos after a heated argument erupts.

Housewives? Yes. For a housewives in New Jersey. Okay. During a group trip abroad, a shocking predicament. about a relationship changes everything. Hallmark. No, it's Housewives.

Could be Hallmark. Let's pitch it. You did good, though. That was pretty good. That was pretty good. Thank you. Thank you so much. I feel like you know a lot about Housewives.

Yeah. I definitely have seen a few episodes. Or she's like, those aren't very uplifting. I'm thinking of the positive spin. Yeah. Yeah, he seemed like these could have been deeply evil people. I don't think people. I'm lying about a serious illness.

I'm going to go with housewives. But maybe the serious illness was that they were heartbroken. Never mind. No, no. Something about Santa. Well, Lacey, this has been so much fun. Please come back soon. I know this is only your second podcast, but hopefully you had a great time, and it was

super easy and super fun. And again, just remind my audience, all the projects you got coming up and where they can stream and watch them all. You can stream Celebrations, Season 1 and 2 on Hallmark Plus. haul out the Halloween will be on Hallmark Channel, October 11th. And then she's making a list is the Christmas movie I did this year. And that will be on Hallmark Channel December 6th. And then my line with Hallmark Christmas galore decorations, celebratory items,

all of that will be available very soon in Hallmark Gold Crown stores. Amazing. Yeah. Well, please send us some of those Christmas decorations. I'm going to. We'll definitely share and put them up over our trees. I'm absolutely going to. And thank you so much for having me and chatting.

It was super fun to talk to you guys. So much fun for us. Thanks so much, Lazy. Of course. Take care. Bye. Bye. This was really fun.

It was so fun. Thank you so much for coming. Of course. Do not forget that our going deeper tomorrow. It's a good one, people. If you ever follow the Dugger family drama scandal, the craziness that went on with that, we have Amy Dugger King with us to talk about her. her new book that talks about all of the craziness that went on in that family.

That is tomorrow's going deeper. You will not want to miss that. And on Thursday's reality recap, we have Rachel Lindsay returning to the show to talk about all things. Bravo, catch up with Rachel Lindsay. It will be great to have her back and catch up with her. That is all coming up this week. Thanks for listening.

Talk to you later. See you tomorrow. Bye. You know, Oh. Thank you.