The Viall Files - E1017 - Love Is Blind w/ Michelle Buteau, RHOSLC, RHOP, DWTS & Taylor Frankie Paul Drama

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Starting point is 00:01:17 helixleep.com slash V-I-A-L-L. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vial Files reality recap edition. I am your host, Nick, joined by my beautiful wife, the rest of the household. We're here in L.A. We're in studio. We're rocking and rolling. We're having a great time. Lots to get into amazing episode for you lined up. First and foremost, just a reminder that yesterday is going deeper. with the one and only

Starting point is 00:01:55 Robert Irwin and his dancing partner Whitney Carson. They're all great, but this one really touched her souls. It was a full circle moment for me, got emotional. It was funny, a lot of laughs. Tears. It was just great. You know? All around great. You can feel you'll, the best cry is when you feel good

Starting point is 00:02:14 doing it, you know? The best cry is when you feel good doing it. Yeah, because it's like kind of weird like emotional happy tears. I'm, I'm, I'm a happy cryer. I don't cry when I'm sad, mostly. I have to be, like, devastated to cry what I'm sad. But, like, when I'm, like, I'm dancing with the stars now,

Starting point is 00:02:33 and I went last night, it was dedication night. Holding in the tears, every dance. Every dance is emotional. I was watching from home, and I sobbed. It was, yeah. And speaking of Robert and Whitney, the, you know, they play, obviously, like, their intro package or whatever of them talking, and the dancers are kind of, like, waiting until the music starts.

Starting point is 00:02:53 So they're listening to their intro package And they play it on like a big screen For the audience to watch And I took a photo of Whitney and Robert Because it was so sweet She's like holding his she's like covering his ears And Robert is like whispering to himself Like I'm okay I'm okay I'm okay

Starting point is 00:03:07 I'm okay I'm okay and it was just like the sweet Yeah here it was Oh God it was so good Every single one had me crying Every single one Every time somebody came out for their dedication I was just like I know

Starting point is 00:03:20 Could not hold it in And the contemporary dance is also just, like, so emotional in itself. It was really, really good. Before we talk more about Dance with the Stars, also on Tuesday's episode of Reilly Recap, we had Carlos King of Bravo lore, former Bravo producer, a host of his own show. Great insight in all things, reality TV and Bravo. Funny, fun. Just a great time.

Starting point is 00:03:44 Also, we had Annie from Love is Blind, which we'll get into later this episode, talking about the most recent episode. Did they break? yeah that's what we watched in this episode yeah it was very confusing it was the weirdest breakup i've ever watched i've never seen someone deny and honestly that's what i would do if nick was like i want a divorce i'd be like well no but we so anyways what do you want for dinner just stick it out with me you can't make one plus one equal three watch me literally watch me loved it what did she say that's not a good answer that's the power of women that's my type of math actually you know

Starting point is 00:04:14 i'm curious like did you find her at least entertaining in this last episode oh i've never said i don't find her entertaining um i just think i'm really sorry for her about this edit because we all know it's just the edits fault also joining us later this episode michelle buto she's the host of the circle on netflix uh hilarious comedian also just fan of all things raleigh tv we'll talk a little housewives with her some love is blind she'll be up shortly back to dancing with the stars arbor dillan i think highest score of the night arbor a burr abur dillard he honestly so good It was so good

Starting point is 00:04:51 I felt like it deserved a 10 I'm gonna be on No no no no no no no I know they like to save the 10 I know boring don't care He's got the best compliment of the night In addition to having the best score He had the best compliment of the night Which was I don't know which judge said it to him

Starting point is 00:05:08 But they think one of them referred to him As the most improved And when it comes to dancing with the stars That's all you really want to hear Can someone quickly look Bobby Bones comments regarding the recent exit of Hilaria Baldwin

Starting point is 00:05:25 who a few days ago I believe blamed I don't know she blamed they I don't know who they is She said they them She said they bullied me They bullied her off dancing

Starting point is 00:05:36 with the stars And not sure who she was referring to but Bobby Bones former winner of Dancing with the Stars also has I believe a large radio show had some choice words

Starting point is 00:05:49 for Hilaria. He did. So following hilarious claims that she would bullied off dancing with the stars, here's what Bobby Bones said. I was reading about Hilaria Baldwin saying she was bullied off dancing with the stars. As someone who was treated like crap by the hardcore fans of the show, yeah, bullying

Starting point is 00:06:05 happens, but you don't get bullied off the show. You get kicked off the show because nobody voted for you. I mean... So that's bull crap. She was a great dancer. She was somebody who came in with a ton of dance experience, obviously. But no, no, no. No, you don't get bullied off the show.

Starting point is 00:06:21 I don't know her, but you got eliminated because people didn't like you. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Well, that's a little harsh. I mean, that's kind of... But it's not wrong. I'm like, at the end of the day, I think they is America who she's talking about. America is non-binary.

Starting point is 00:06:37 Only your dreams, Mary. But it's true because I'm like, I think of all the jokes and the, you know, how do you say cucumber and whatnot that I think that she thinks that, like, we chose to bully her off the show. but it's like, no, we just didn't vote for you. And she is entertaining, but when you're picking between how do you say cucumber versus Dylan Ephron and Robert Irwin. Thank you. Yeah. Whitney Leavitt.

Starting point is 00:07:00 Do you think she would have dedicated to Alec? No. No. Yeah, I don't feel like she would either. She would have like my 800 children because I did. She would be like, I'm dedicating this to my fourth cousin once removed. Her kitchen. She's a, no, Whitney's, honestly.

Starting point is 00:07:16 Whitney and Connor, I, yeah. Yeah, they, that was beautiful. We also saw Zach Affleck there with the kiddos sitting across from us, just like holding cord trying, you know, the kids were like fighting over snacks. It was really quite cute and hilarious. That was all very BTS behind the scenes. When they flashed to him after Jen's performance and one of the babies is on his lap just like screaming and I was just like, God bless you.

Starting point is 00:07:39 He had his, their daughter, I don't know, she's got to be around Rivers Age, a little bit older around two. and you could tell, obviously, she just, like, wants to run. You know, like, she's not interested in sitting still. And he is, like, bribing her with everything under the sun. And it was just the sweetest thing. She's like, Grandma gets to go out there. I know it's easy to point out flaws.

Starting point is 00:08:00 And certainly with some of the cast of the Secret Lives of Mormon wives. But I got to say, you know, as someone who's really got to know this entire cast, including the men on the show, the husbands, we had Dakota on. He's had his issues. I'm not sure we haven't watched season three yet. but I think Jordan and Jesse go through some stuff but I really gotta say

Starting point is 00:08:20 some of these guys I've gotten to know they're really sweet men especially Connor you know Whitney's husband you know we you saw it at the reunion part one he certainly has had his trauma he's just a sweet soul

Starting point is 00:08:32 he did so well you could tell how nervous he was and even Zach Affleck I know like season one he was enemy number one the Zach I've gotten to know in person he stood up to his family his religion

Starting point is 00:08:45 chose his wife. He's a stay-at-home dad, supporting his wife. I don't know. I got a lot of respect for Zach Affleck. I feel like he's really stepped up as a young man. And I've gotten to enjoy my limited time with Jace and Jacob. I hope we get to know more of these men. Again, I haven't seen season three,

Starting point is 00:09:04 so maybe I'll eat my words and they're all like assholes. Who knows? But even Jen, like, she posted that she was on her deathbed so sick this entire last week. And she's still, I mean, went out there and crushed. And it's just like, it's crazy what... Also, Val. He's just a sexy dancer. He's such a good dancer. Not Carrie Ann coming for Pasha's choreography, telling Danielle that like every dance looks the same. She said it to Danielle. No, I know. I'm sorry. Is she coming

Starting point is 00:09:31 up at the choreography? But then you can see Daniela Pasha's wife, Dylan's partner, like up on the balcony being like, what the fuck is this bitch talking about? She said, let me down there. I think I only have nice memories of her But she really was a... I mean, I know that's like her job. She plays with Simon Cowell of the judges. But what a fucking buzzkill. It's fucking dedication night.

Starting point is 00:09:52 And she's just like... Just one note. Yeah. Keep her head back. You've got Bruno sobbing. You've got Derek sobbing. Like, no one gives a fuck. Like, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:10:02 Who was it last season that she like said something harsh? It was Chandler and she dedicated something to her mom, right? I don't know. But Carrianna is the only one that I know that gets booed on a regular. And she just now. She's part of her, like, speech. She's like, I get it. I can handle being bode.

Starting point is 00:10:16 Gleb came up and hugged Nick. Before he hugged Nick, he winked at me. And then came over and gave Nick a big hug. I don't know what he whispered in your ear, but it was feeling like maybe he had some stuff to say. No. I mean, I know plenty about him, also because I had lunch with Miss Mary Hall and Aider the other day.

Starting point is 00:10:35 We should invite him on the show. We should invite him. I'm sure he would have lots to say. What did the wink mean? I don't know. It felt like he was like, I know what the two of you, you know, you platformed Brooks and like all that stuff. And it was kind of giving like, I don't care. You know? His whole MO is like, it's very shaggy. It wasn't me. Wasn't me? Was it? Yeah. And he was kind of giving like, you know what I know, but all good. You know? Like, I'm still here dancing shaking my ass. And you thought. Yeah, exactly. Have you guys been keeping up with any of the? The Secret Lives and Mormon Wives drama specifically are a bachelorette, Taylor Frankie Paul. Always.

Starting point is 00:11:16 Other than I just, I kind of just like everything she puts out there. So I said, in support of our queen. I sent in a group chat. Taylor Frankie Paul posted a reel. And it was of her Miranda and Macy and a girl I didn't recognize. Miranda's friend, yeah. Yeah. And then it was captioned, just found out the snake in the middle

Starting point is 00:11:33 is sleeping with my baby daddy, meanwhile crying to me because she just got dumped by a married man. Who's the snake in the middle? The girl I had never seen before, she's got dark hair. I don't know if she's going to be an addition on the show. I have her Instagram screenshoted. So I sent it. And then obviously we know Taylor Frankie Paul stands on business.

Starting point is 00:11:54 And when I went to go look at it again, it was gone. And I'm like, she's not one to post and delete. So I went to Miranda's page because Miranda had posted a video with this girl also. And I love Miranda. Miranda deleted the video. So I was like, oh my God. Now I have to put on my crazy hat. And I have to go and try and find this person.

Starting point is 00:12:10 Become an FBI. Yes. So I went to her talked photo. Miranda's talked photos, found the video, went to this girl's page. And then Taylor Frankie Paul had commented on the last video that she posted with Miranda and said girls seek help. Oh, yesterday when I was posted at 37 minutes and 70 likes this morning, it has a thousand, 70. But yeah, everyone's going to this girl's page trying to figure out like who she is and apparently she's sleeping with Dakota. And then my question to you is because she is our new bachelorette.

Starting point is 00:12:37 Do you think that she had to delete it based off of the network? Because this is the first kind of out-of-pocket bachelorette they've ever had that would move this way. They have certainly reached out to the leads in the past to ask them to take things down or try to police their social media. Yeah, it's definitely possible. Taylor did comment something saying, I have receipts of her trying to hang with me multiple times. Thankfully, I didn't. I'm getting messages of how sneaky she is. Honestly, I think this is the perfect couple.

Starting point is 00:13:03 Oh, even going through like the girl's page, it's like Taylor's commenting on everything. being like beautiful mama like i support you like you can tell she very much was a shoulder for this girl to cry on and obviously this is post third season of secret lives and mormon wife so i don't even know if we're going to meet this girl but she's already being listen it's going to be a fascinating crossover it only makes me more interested in watching taylor uh as the bachelor uh but like the worlds are colliding yeah and and and it's it's a little water and vinegar in the sense that you have a b this is a bc disney so to speak right you know uh very perm and proper it's it's uh It's fan base.

Starting point is 00:13:39 It's OG fan base. It does not like messy... Clean cut. Problematic. And I say problematic, the perception of problematic or just openly vulnerable. But obviously, Mormon wives in these episodic series

Starting point is 00:13:53 following these groups of people very much promotes that. So... Thrives on the drama. It will be interesting. Someone commented on the photo saying, there's like five girls who all look the same. Which one is in the middle?

Starting point is 00:14:06 And it's literally the ultimate. only girl with dark hair. Literally. Well, when there's four. Four is hard. Well. Which is the middle? No, yeah, you're right.

Starting point is 00:14:14 But I'm like, there was three of them we recognized. Layla's also in it. So like there's two girls of dark hair, but it's just funny. But you know Layla. You know Macy. Exactly. You know Jesse. And then there's one girl we don't know who is in the middle.

Starting point is 00:14:26 Breaking news. She actually posted, I guess, in the middle girl. As in the middle snake that is sleeping with the baby daddy. If you have a problem with me, call me. If you don't have my number, then that. means you don't know me well enough to have a problem. Isn't that a quote from... No.

Starting point is 00:14:42 No. Yeah, I don't also think that's true. No, but I can have a problem with you and not know your number. That and I'm like, she clearly does have your number, my friend, because she's been commenting support for you while you've been crying on her shoulder. And I'm also kind of like, let's not go toe to toe with Taylor Frankie Paul. Yeah, you're going to lose. You're going to lose.

Starting point is 00:15:01 So bad. Some people don't mind losing it, but makes them famous. I mean, I guess. Yeah. But get you on Season 4 of the Mormon Wives. Oh, my God, yes. The beautiful thing about the way Mormon Wives drama works is that you get to see it happen online and then you get to relive it in more detail years later. It's like the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Starting point is 00:15:22 Wait, you're actually so not wrong because I was thinking about this where I was like this whole thing going on with Jesse and her husband like where and it was Banderpump Villa and the Maricio Marciano of it all. That it's just like, I completely forgot about all of that. And then I'm like, oh my God, it's been like what, six months, eight months. I'm about to pick up where we left off. Now we're going to get the truth. Yeah. Well, Jason Tardick's ex has a new fling. I don't think that's true.

Starting point is 00:15:45 She was just posting someone that wasn't John Mayer. Well, John Mayor is reportedly dating influencer Kat Stickler, also known as the ex of Jason Tardick. After the two were seen together twice in two days. A source is the relationship is still very new and that the musician 47 is the one. who sought her out, according to the source. She's literally been posting... Not showing his face. Not showing his face.

Starting point is 00:16:13 Another man. Maybe this is like all part of this elaborate plan or something, but it's one thing we know about John Mayer, is that he does not like his, his trist, his relationships to be talked about publicly, i.e. Sheena. It's already over. Yeah, like, this is against everything he believes in. Like, she's like, she's going to do like, like, TikTok bits about it. He's been reaching out. He's been pursuing me.

Starting point is 00:16:36 He's obsessed with me. Me. Are you trying to make me think that the guy that's in these videos is John Mayer? Do you imagine? No. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:42 I don't know. I don't know if I believe this. Yeah. Maybe they're just like friends. Maybe. But again, that's kind of weird. Why are you going,

Starting point is 00:16:48 if you have a new boyfriend, why are we going out with John Mayer? But what? What random source would be offering this information? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, well, it's like Dumas recently reported that mayor and stickler

Starting point is 00:16:59 were seen at a private members only club in New York City last Friday. That is, that is a nothing thing. People get seen together all the time. But a, There is a source who is saying things like, it's still very new. He's the one who reached out.

Starting point is 00:17:13 He's pursuing her. Like, who is this source? What motives? Like, you know what I'm saying? Who benefits? Like, a source is typically the person themselves. Their reps. Their reps.

Starting point is 00:17:24 They got seen is like, that could be anyone being nosy and be like, I saw them. But this is like an insider that it's still very new. He's pursuing her. And John Mayer doesn't really like, hey, need to pursue. but I'm like, John Mayer just like doesn't really have relationships. So that's where it's kind of like, you letting this out of the bag, whether it's happening or not, it's over. Whether this is true, it's not a good look for cat that the story got out.

Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah, or like the, you don't think so? Well, if she just simply wants to be connected to John Mayer, then sure. But I don't see unless he's just obsessed with her and just want, but like this getting out to Sierra's point is going to give him the ick. And it's giving very amateur. hour in a way. And if it's not her, she has terrible friends. And again, it's also like

Starting point is 00:18:12 raises questions as people who like do follow her with this new boyfriend or what. Not like, did you break up with this guy to be with John Mayer? Like, was that even real? Like, is this even real? Like, I mean, it's giving, we hung out for two days and I want to tell the world because I want my name next to John Mayer

Starting point is 00:18:28 in the headlines. And whether that's how it went down, that's how it looks. So I guess we'll see if he shows up on reels doing TikTok trends, then like, yay, more power to you, Cap. Anyway, well, we have a great and funny guest coming up. Michelle Buto, she is joining us next to talk a little love is blind. But before we do, the team at MV Media is working on a little secret and exciting new project.

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Starting point is 00:22:45 So I don't know. I had a turtleneck on the other day and I'm like, yes. You brought the rain. I brought the rain. And thank God. You know what I mean? And thank God. You know what I mean? I don't know how I'm doing like my kids are real cute I love working I have freckles they're real I feel like I'm doing good you're superior honestly thank you so much I drew on mine you did I did do you hate you must hate that as a natural freckle person like like like two years ago yeah yeah we all you know what a positive way yeah it's all perspective yeah and I love your eyeliner the wingtip is like we're like you well I had a full panic attack this morning about it so thank you what were they not even?

Starting point is 00:23:23 No, but it was like this morning when I'm trying to get out the door and it was just like And I had no cutip I was just licking my fingers Like a fucking Like a fucking freak Look at my fingers

Starting point is 00:23:32 And put it in my eye And I was like well At least I'm a good person It's like they're not even It looks like one eyes bigger than the other And maybe it is Maybe it is It's kind of giving Lisa Barlow's first episode

Starting point is 00:23:45 Oh my God I know you better tie it back bitch I know you're making a full circle She said with her one For one smoky eye Yes. Oh, my God. Yes. I can't wait to get an album. Oh, my God. That was crazy. To be a rich or white skin and a person, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:24:02 She says, I'm not going to blame my glam team, but it was a new luck. I'm really, like, impressed by how, like, how everybody's got the good skin living in Utah because I just feel like everyone will look like Kathy Bates. Truly. And no offense to Kathy Bates, but Kathy Bates, no. And honestly, all of their hair is shiny. As fuck. It's just serums. They've changed. They have so many germs. Well, they're also just big guzzling down a gallon of soda. It's probably just a lot of hot springs.

Starting point is 00:24:26 It's too cold to go outside. Yes. No, but even like springs will like they dry you out, you know? Yeah. Yeah, you're supposed to apply lotion after a sauna. You didn't know that. He's fine like dish soap to his face. That's why my skin's all cracking.

Starting point is 00:24:41 A little dawn, a little dawn of the elbows for that ass. Some detergent or something. He doesn't really. He's using the wrong stuff. Yeah. I love your socks. Like, what personality? Thank you.

Starting point is 00:24:51 Yeah. I felt like. I think I needed to be somebody to me. Or somebody. How many books do you need to be out? A lot. Jesus Christ, not even Oprah. I want to get the illusion that I read.

Starting point is 00:25:02 Okay. I know. I know, trust me. His own. I love it for you, but I'm like, I got it. I'm trying really hard. Oh. Thanks for calling me out.

Starting point is 00:25:13 I love it. No, and honestly, that lamp looks like a dick. That lamp looks like a day. You were thinking it. Yeah. You were. No? But I think it's, last time you saw Dick.

Starting point is 00:25:24 Um, hey. Oh shit. We all have access to the internet. Oh, shit. So I think so. Well, you just like check in once in a mile. They're like, no, still, still know. I'm like, I'm good on it.

Starting point is 00:25:36 Let me see. Did it change? Yeah. Will people accept me? No, I love Dick and I still have to be like, I need a break. You know, you can't, it's like a buffet. You can't, it's too much is not a good thing. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:48 Sometimes I put on sunglasses when I get my husband a little blow job. And they're like the ones that you can't see out They're like, yeah I'm just going to be a little aviator for that ass I'm going to go to land the plate What the fuck? Red Sox I don't know how to act Because I just love a good sock

Starting point is 00:26:07 Thank you. Do you want to see my socks? I do. Do they mismatch? No, sometimes they do though But it's I told you I told you I love a sock moment. What are they?

Starting point is 00:26:21 I don't know what I like them. No, Grover. No, it's Grover. Oh, it is. It's Grover. Sesame Street. Yeah, the Muppet. Thank you.

Starting point is 00:26:28 Just leave your shoes off. I feel like. You don't get comfortable. I'm here for five more minutes. How old are your kids? I don't know. Let me call them. They're going to be seven in January.

Starting point is 00:26:39 They're twins? They're twins. Wow. Yeah, I got twins. You did that? I didn't do it. I did it. We did IVF.

Starting point is 00:26:46 I couldn't carry. So we had a surrogate. Oh, wow. It was insane because we live in New York. Surrogacy was illegal. New York. We had to find a state to go to. Health care is so misogynistic. So and fucking horrible. And then after they were born, I stomped with Andy Cohen in New York to overturn that bullshit. And it wasn't just like me and Andy. But, you know. That is a powerful

Starting point is 00:27:06 duo. Yeah. So it was nice. And now it's legal in New York. So what's it like having twins? Crazy. It's insane. It's so, fuck. It's so special. It's so insane. I'm the only child. So I'm like, how do you guys fight and just make? I don't love each other. Do they know what the other person's feeling and thinking? Are they super connected? Yeah. They also know what my husband and I are feeling and thinking.

Starting point is 00:27:30 It's insane. You're like, get out of here. Do you have siblings? Yes. Okay. Youngest of seven. He's got 10 siblings. 10?

Starting point is 00:27:38 Yeah. They find each other. That's crazy. What is that group threat like? Because I'd be like, I can't. I don't respond. I muted it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:27:45 I hate group chats. Yeah. Well, most of them are in Wisconsin. and she's all like talking about what they're doing over the weekend. Right. Like cheese and game, like football? Yeah. Got.

Starting point is 00:27:54 Yeah. A lot of cheese. I don't know. Deer. Sausage. Petting. Sausage. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:28:01 Yeah. So, you know. We have a 20-month-old daughter. Oh, my goodness. And she is in the, um, ripe age of calling me mom. No mama. No mommy. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:28:12 Like she's 15. Yeah. We do mama. Yeah. She, Hazel asked me the other day, can I call you mom? And I'm like, Why, because your friends say mom. She's like, yeah.

Starting point is 00:28:20 And I'm like, then no. It was a better reason? No, but I'm like, it's mama. And she's like, but that's not fair to me. And I was like, you know, and I told her, I was like, you remember how you don't like when I say girl? Because sometimes I call a girl. I'm like, girl, get over here.

Starting point is 00:28:34 And she's like, I don't like when you say girl. It makes me feel like you're mad at me. So can you say my name? And I'm like, yes, I can. She checks me. She does. And it's insane because you want to give them the space to be checked. But it's also like, don't check me.

Starting point is 00:28:48 Take that motherfucker at the playground. It's not letting you go down the slide. I brought the snacks, bitch. Come on. Not that my daughter's a bitch in this, but, you know, also, bitch is a term of endearment. It is. Yeah, I mean, but yeah, it's, yeah,

Starting point is 00:29:02 Mama. She also wants a neck tattoo for her seventh birthday of a small heart. Kids are wild. Honestly. Yeah, well, we're all tatted up, so I'm really concerned. No, I'm going to show her just how bad mine are. And then I'll be like, No, she'll just be like, no, she'll just be like,

Starting point is 00:29:19 I'm not going to be as dumb as you. Yeah, I can do it better. Yeah. You're stupid. I'm smarter. Yeah. Because she was like, Mama, you said it's my body. I'm like, oh.

Starting point is 00:29:29 Fuck. I didn't see it. But not now. Yeah, it's insane. A heart on her neck. Where did she see that? I think one of our babysitters. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:39 Also, we live in Brooklyn. So, like, everyone's into self-expression. It's, yeah. But it's also the best. It's like, what a beautiful reason to, live like how lucky are we to meet these beautiful souls you know to like put our love into the world forever and all of time you're so deep I am no one thinks I am because I like tell a lot of dick jokes yeah but other than that yeah poor lamp caught astray yes yeah yeah deep in dick jokes

Starting point is 00:30:05 yeah yeah they go together yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like peanut butter jelly A random combination. A real corned Ramsey. What do you mean, Nick? I was here. I wasn't. Oh, my God. Also, single friends with no kids or relationships or like not even like a finicky plant that are always late.

Starting point is 00:30:30 And they're like trying to tell me what to do with my life and how I should like rest and go to the spa. I'm like, save it for TikTok, bitch. I'm not the one. No, I'm not the one. I'm not the two. And I'm not. I want to know your thoughts on Potomac. Oh my goodness.

Starting point is 00:30:47 My thoughts on Potomac. You got like, this is for anyone who needs to hear it. If you're not paying your taxes and, and you're scamming people. They'll find you. And you want to like fucking get a little like plastic surgery and go on reality TV and start a Persecco line. You're going to get caught. You're going to get caught. It's one or the other.

Starting point is 00:31:07 Career criminal. It's not dancing with the stars, bitch. Okay. It's not that. You're going to go to jail. Also, you have to share toilet. If you are going on the show and you don't know what your husband does for a living, that's time to ask. It's time to audit.

Starting point is 00:31:21 It's time to ask before you get married. But it's been thinking for the Theresa Dio Dices where it's like, I didn't know what he was doing and then you still ended up serving the time. I don't believe it. These bitches are, like, they have like, like, finistas. You know what I mean? They like know how to do stuff. You know, you're giving Carmella soprano and Carmelo. Always had macaroni in the freezer

Starting point is 00:31:44 Because she knew they'd have to eat When the feds would come So I'm done You're fucking dumb You're fucking dumb I don't know I can't do illegal stuff Never in your life have you

Starting point is 00:31:55 I think I stole a shirt from Macy's when I was like Or tried to And I'm like you know what Someone really needs to put it back Yeah Because I'm like what if somebody can't find the size They really want it Plus I learned

Starting point is 00:32:09 That there's people on the other side of the mirror in Macy's dressing rooms I can't be real Are you calling her life? You have like three computers You can look at it up What is this oceans 0.5?

Starting point is 00:32:24 Look it up! Isn't that illegal though? Like cameras in the fitting room? They're watching women change. There's a sign. Yeah. That says we're watching you change and watching you.

Starting point is 00:32:32 Yeah, yes. That's probably how I got caught because they watched to shove all those miss me jeans in a backpack. Even at the times that I've thought about shoplifting when I was a teenager, It was the, like, one time when it's like, I actually paid for something and the thing went off and how mortifying that was.

Starting point is 00:32:44 I was like, I didn't care about the cops. I didn't care about the ticket. I was like, that moment when that thing goes off and you're like, I fucking paid for it. You're like, I'm better than this. That's exactly what it is. Yes, I'm better than this. Now, if it didn't go off, I'd still do it. Yeah, there is something to, it is like, how would you actually act if no one's watching?

Starting point is 00:33:07 You know what I mean? Reckless. No, I'm just kidding. of shit, right? I always put my cart back. And that's why I never sit on hotel couches. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. Disgusting. I just feel like people have their balls all over them. All of them. They don't wipe those down.

Starting point is 00:33:21 You live in New York. What does that mean? Balls everywhere. Everything's dirty. But there's balls all over the world. I think I think it's like when you're like in a metropolitan city with shared spaces, people are just like, we can't have bedbugs because that's

Starting point is 00:33:39 going to take us down. But if I'm in, like, a podong place, I don't think anybody could the fuck? You know what I mean? I was in Syracuse and I was like, this is scary. Yeah. Like, like, okay, I don't have to follow it up, but I don't want shit on Syracuse.

Starting point is 00:33:54 Oh, no, shit on Syracuse. I'm from Florida. Okay. Yeah. Okay, great. Like a panhandle, Florida? Like what kind of Florida? No, no, no, no, like central, coastal.

Starting point is 00:34:02 Like a Tallahassee? No, like, like a Sarasota, like a Tampa. Oh, okay. But you have an airport? Yeah, there's an airport Yeah Bush Gardens Bush Gardens does rock hard

Starting point is 00:34:14 Yeah Yeah So you got stuff Yeah you can Drink something like orange Yeah Tigers and roller coasters Yeah dude

Starting point is 00:34:21 Get a little redneck with it Yeah my parents are Miami We don't really see each other I've been to Miami One time in my life What? Yeah That's the thing of like

Starting point is 00:34:32 I well The thing about Florida It's three different places There's like North Florida Which is a hate crime there's middle Florida which is I don't even know and then South Florida which is its own thing which is North Cuba yeah it's more Caribbean than anything yeah it's like

Starting point is 00:34:47 there really is like Disney World who's to say it's Minnesota yeah but old and then also like Rednex yeah and then yeah South Florida I'm like they're too like y'all are too good for us oh you know what I mean go and have a mojito and get spun speaking of Miami did you are you following Todd Nilexia because they're currently back together no I'm not but I just finished love is blind and i'm obsessed and what are your thoughts on annie and nick's breakup i have a lot of thoughts on that okay i at first i was judging her and i thought she was annoying because i think it's annoying because she's only able to say i love you say but also she can't put words to it yeah and the only time she feels comfortable saying how she feels is when she's drunk

Starting point is 00:35:30 over taco bell he's like i just want to eat this chalupa and i was like i don't know what's that they're breaking up or it's going to look like that coming out too You know what I mean? Like, he literally got, like, refried beans with a coupon. I don't know. But, you know, bless up, Denver. But, like, but I feel sad because, and then when he broke up with her, I was like, oh, she was feeling it. Yep.

Starting point is 00:35:50 You know, and I felt in that moment, I was like, I wish she knew how to have the words. But I think she's, um, just obsessed with surface and in surface, but wants deeper, but doesn't know how to get there. She's a words of affirmation girl. Yes. And, but touch. But also, like, it looks like she knows. needs like a lot of like she's like definitely not access service definitely not

Starting point is 00:36:11 when he was like I've done all these things and she's like and she's like okay I don't give a fuck she's like and I love you yes so you want to marry me up no yeah he said one plus one doesn't equals three and I was like why are we doing math I know I was also confused okay why we do a math

Starting point is 00:36:32 goodwill hunting it was very confusing and what I found interesting too is that his mom was like he's real sensitive and so I don't like that's triggering for me because my mom is always just like don't be so sensitive I'm like maybe it's be more sensitive and I'm just like unpack that what does that mean that he has feelings he can't express that you don't want to deal with it like what does that mean also like was he depressed when he was little I mean he gave us the whole story in the pods about how his mom like had to ask him if he was gay which felt like maybe some information that we didn't I did not like that I did not like that they bonded over being homophobic I was like like ay ay. I was like, ayy. And I'm like, you guys are just going to say that. They're going to say it right now. The camera is right. And 100 and 991 conscious that the show is it. They're going to put this in every language.

Starting point is 00:37:22 Yes. People actually feel that way. And then I think people agree with them. And I'm just like, sad. Yuck. Real sad. I just thought that that broke my heart because, you know, when someone says, I want to have a child, but then it's like with the condition. I'm like, what I hear is, please don't have a child. Yeah. Because it's unconditional for a reason. Exactly. Do you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:37:45 I'm just like, that is a beautiful soul. It does, like, love is love. And I'm just like, I almost wanted them to stay together to have a gay child to teach them how to love themselves. But I was like, you know, you could just want stuff for people, but you have to like go home and match your socks. It was interesting how he came to the conclusion that he didn't want to marry her, though. Was it the next day? It was right. Yeah, it was the next day.

Starting point is 00:38:08 after they're drunk, talk about Chalupa, you don't love me, conversation. And he was like, I'm just tired of you putting words in my mouth and saying, I don't love you when I do love you. What an excuse.

Starting point is 00:38:17 You can just say that? Yeah, the amount of guys who say, I love you while breaking up with someone, it's wild stuff. Yeah. We should not be together. I do love you, though.

Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah. I don't know. Nick's whole thing when he, when he was in the pods and there was the one girl that he had said that he loved and then he, Kate, and then she was like,

Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah. No, I'm not, like, I'm not religious. Yeah. And then he was like, oh, well, we're not together, even though she had told him that before. But also she had the most tragic story. Yeah. And I can see why you would question God in the universe because why does the most important person in your life have to be sick and die? And instead of coming from a place of love and understanding, he's like, well, here are my requirements and so therefore I'm out. And she dodged a bullet. But yeah, I think you can love. somebody but want to break up with them no maybe so but you shouldn't say it you shouldn't say it's confusing it's confusing and it's selfish and you're only saying it because you don't want to be the bad guy it's kind of like gaslighting you don't know i think a little bit because yeah i don't know i think you can love somebody but break up with them because you're just like it'll never work we're not compatible but the love and the chemistry is there yeah because it's more like how you say it's but i love no i do love you yeah it's like the person you're breaking up with is just like it's only listening to I love you and they're like well then I'm confused if you love me that's why she's like I can make one plus one equal three you have to be okay with being their bad guy yeah you know you got to be their villain in their story I really enjoyed the conversation with KB and Ed I I don't think they're gonna end up together I don't think they should end up for sure he's like he's got some emotional growing to do I just there's some of these couples where like Joe and in Madison I don't even think I mean he's just freaking out I don't even know if like this

Starting point is 00:40:08 they're really even real like i think i kind of like feel like they're maybe pretending kb and ed they just seem like they're not meant to be together but they both mean well and i do feel like there's a genuine respect for each other there yeah i think they're both looking at each other like we are the only black couple and so there is like when you are the only there is a responsibility you have like for for dare i say every other black person let's say in the world because people are going to look at you and say look at this example oh shit she's He's got a new black girl's, you know, they get angry and aggressive at this, that, and the third. And so I think there's like this responsibility, like an unspoken responsibility that they have, which I think the respect is really nice.

Starting point is 00:40:49 I like that. She checks herself and she's like, I'm trying to be patient. He's got a lot going on. And I don't know if I was a producer that I would have him on TV because, you know, I just, I feel bad. There's some trauma there. I definitely, like, watching him, them go through, you know, her layout the whole day and then him be like, like, I just need you. It was beautiful for him to be able to be like, I just need you to say something nice.

Starting point is 00:41:13 Like, I just, and not like, and not. But what do I do right? But then it was, yeah, but it felt like it was coming from, like, he obviously bounced around from foster home to foster home. This man has, like, never felt chosen. He's never had the, like, stable, security, safe feeling. And he's like, I just want to feel like I'm doing good. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:41:34 And, like, I just need to hear that. And so it was like a beautiful thing. Oh, let's calm now and tell you. I want to call him. Also, I want him to take the pick out of his hat. Ali and Anton. He's a liar. Liar. You know what's so funny. I told my husband when they like met each other for the first time and she was waiting for him to look back and he took a sip of his drink and was like, this is the good stuff. I was like, he got a drinking problem. Oh, yeah. Maybe I'm profiling, but he's Russian and those Russians know how to. All I know is if a tequila bottle was in the bridge. And when she's like, is a tequila bottle there? And he's like, the what? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:42:06 I know. I know. And then he's so different. He's like me and Patrick, we drank like four. And then 10 minutes later, she's like, how many did you impact? He's like, yeah, I just brought him down one dream. Well, I know. Oh, and you can tell that he's gotten in trouble so many times because he didn't even

Starting point is 00:42:20 know what he was in trouble for when it was the friend came over. And he was like, oh, no, but he wasn't in the apartment. I actually brought things down because he was like, are you mad that he was in the apartment without me telling you? And then like the deflection of like, you drink two. You drink too. Then the speech of was also a little gaslighty where it's just like, well, I love you the way you are and if you don't love me the way

Starting point is 00:42:39 I'm man and we can just break up but I love you I'm selfless And he thought he caught her with the Is this how you are every day with this message? She goes yeah, yeah it is And what about your drinking? Let's talk about it. That's so insane but like to be with someone

Starting point is 00:42:53 Like they're holding up ugly mirror to you right So I didn't even know how much I was drinking To my husband told me And I was like oh that's a lot I thought I was having a good time He's like you fall asleep in the bathroom At every party I'm like But it's dark, it's cold

Starting point is 00:43:06 I just in my little nap I just want a little something something and come back he's like just stop drinking that I mean that took like about five years so it's like being patient with that person and I didn't think I was drinking too much because I was always having a good time

Starting point is 00:43:20 my credit card always went through I always remembered my card at the bar I was like I'm let I am doing and I could like work hungover and I'm like I'm pretty amazing I'm multitasking and I need it I did this thing where I was like I need it like I need to relax enough fun

Starting point is 00:43:35 But ultimately, if it's like making the person I'm with uncomfortable, check yourself. But you also have to like listen. He wasn't listening. No. He was like, pick up your socks. I want to have a bottle of tequila. And I'm fine. Yeah, I felt bad for it because she's so sweet and young and doesn't want to rock the boat.

Starting point is 00:43:53 But I love that she like stood her ground. Yeah. Me too. I think she also posted on her social media. Like I'm working 12 hour shifts. So like I'm not coming home and doing the laundry and cleaning. and he is, like, coming home at six in the morning and crack it open some beers.

Starting point is 00:44:09 No. Like, go to bed. Yeah. You've been working on night. Just go to bed. Yeah. You know he's very defensive about it because that first question was, is, like, how much you've had?

Starting point is 00:44:18 And he immediately starts lying. It's not like, because, you know, I'm not a big drinker, but if I had some buddies over and we got a little saucy, I'd been like, yeah, we got a little carried away. But his, he immediately was like, oh, I need a lie. Yeah. Or, like, I don't know where the four unaccounted for, went you but you have some you had some yeah you were drinking too yeah so she's like but

Starting point is 00:44:39 what about the other ones i had one it's a 12 bag i'm sorry one and one don't make three what do we do that was so uncomfortable and even down to like i don't know even down to the whole strip club of it all yeah yeah you know that's a big one it is i've been to strip clubs with my husband and it was like fun and then we're like we're good yeah you know and even when we went I was like, this was fun this one time. Right. You know what I mean? I'm like, when you see it, when you play on the regulars and you know who they are,

Starting point is 00:45:10 because like, yeah, every once in a while, you might go with your girl. We're in Vegas. Let's go weird, you know. And then you're just like, these guys brought coupons. They're eating the buffet. They're calling them by their first name. Yeah. But hey, Joe, good to see again.

Starting point is 00:45:24 Dance on. How's your mom doing? Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. But it's so funny because they think that they're ready. That's what's so concerned. too is that it's like and you also know what you think husband material sounds like so you're

Starting point is 00:45:37 saying the bit but you're not doing the work and that's not who you are and you don't think that we're going to figure that out yeah it's so funny because kb i feel like her the way her mind works i'm like oh my god edmund's gonna like explode because she just like goes go go go go go go go there's like no air in between and then alley's like um i think this is a problem if i can tell like I it's a problem right you know and she's like learning how to be on her voice and then um what's the other one that was with nick annie she doesn't know how to it's almost like she was a caveman and she just who was frozen and then she just came she yeah was just melted and I love you there's so much more to it I promise that's crazy you got to get past that

Starting point is 00:46:26 sentence how do you feel about laughing during an argument um I roll my eyes a lot I also do comedies, so if it's funny. It's funny. But I think Edmund's laughing, it's a nervous laugh. It's like laughing at a funeral. It's like you don't know what to do. And I think that that's his inner child, right? Like that's his defense mechanism.

Starting point is 00:46:47 That's what protected him, you know. Whatever he experienced or saw or went through when he was little, if he could laugh, he was okay. And that's it. All I see is therapy twice a week. Yeah, twice. I have a ton of empathy for Edmund. Same. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:47:04 Same. You know, you went into a closet. Like, you know, when kids go under the bed to feel safe because they don't want to hear what's happening in the house. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm supposed to be, but we do. Okay. Let's talk about.

Starting point is 00:47:20 No, but that he did crawl into that cabinet and was like, I can, I like it in here. Yeah. And I was also reminding that KB is a social work. So it's like she does have a different level of patience and it has to be direct and clear with what she's saying and understand it. Yeah, he really are. He just needs some work. Maybe they'll circle back on each other. Well, I'm kind of like to where I'm like, for her and I'm not trying to be insulting to Edmund at all, all I'm saying is that I'm like sometimes it's nice for work to end.

Starting point is 00:47:50 And I'm like, I feel like that would be bringing work home with her to get married to Edmund. Yeah, I don't think they should get married. Yeah, I don't know. And that's just with the most respect for both of them. I don't think they should be friends. Are you friends with your exes? No, they're an ex for a reason. Oh, speaking of Sparkle Megan's best friend, they just showed a guy.

Starting point is 00:48:09 Huge red flag. Really? Why? Adult person with a straight opposite six bestie? I am going to challenge you on this because one of my best friends is a straight man. And I wrote a character about him in the show. My show is Survival of the Thickest, available on Netflix, season two. And season three is coming out soon.

Starting point is 00:48:29 but yeah I mean we've been best friends since we were 12 and exceptions to every rule but 100 and and it's so funny because even when I was writing this character she has a best friend who's kind of a ho they're like when do they hook up I'm like they don't but when do they hook they don't and it's like sometimes you could sometimes you could have more than one soulmate and a friend so maybe all this to say if they had hooked up I'd be like I think exceptions every rule and yeah I've I mean I've I've I had plenty of A lot of women friends, and we just friends.

Starting point is 00:49:03 But they still played the role of, like, emotional support system. You know, they still played the role of girlfriend in a way, even though it wasn't sexual. Yeah. And I just think all my friendships changed, you know, obviously when I got in a serious relationship, especially with my wife. But especially my women friendships dramatically changed because that energy went to my wife. Okay. But it's more like, hey, if we're like, me and Joe are still getting lunch everyone. To me that would just be different

Starting point is 00:49:30 Or like couch hangs or something Because I'm like if Connor were to talk to me about being like Hey I'm gonna go see Leanne or somebody And I'd be like what the fuck am I coming to? As a single man Me and my women friends would like hang out In the middle of the night Like talking about our feelings and talking about shit

Starting point is 00:49:47 And talking about people were dating And nothing would happen I'm not hanging out with anyone in the middle of that But like that all that just all changed When I got into a relationship I mean yes Yes I mean I think You know, I think people are in your life for different reasons.

Starting point is 00:50:02 And if some people do take that place of like, I'm not dating anyone so this is like fun and we don't have to put anything on it. But I'm talking like real friendship. Like, you know, like the same thing as like a cousin or like a sibling. Like real friendship, especially I don't know for me doing stand up. I know more men than women and in the stand-up world. and that was something that I needed my partner to be comfortable with because, you know, I'm dedicated to him, but it's like jealousy, not saying that you're jealous or you're, but like jealousy and insecurity, you know, you can't grow from that because

Starting point is 00:50:40 you're always like questioning, what are you doing? And you can't grow. And so that's always a thing. And so, and I do feel like jealousy is like when people don't realize their power yet. And so I wish, especially now in this time as we're challenging, like, what gender mean and then like being fluid and and questioning stuff and like dare I say my me being friends with people I would it's sort of like the way people would consider themselves to be pansexual and so that's how I go about my friendships I'm like you're a good person well you're not I do think people are in your life for a reason it is a red flag as well if someone's like I'm friends with all my exes because I'm like it feels like you are waiting on something to happen I agree with you like

Starting point is 00:51:25 people are in your life for a reason, but sometimes those seasons end. Yes. You know, and it's okay to move on from friendships and exes. And like they played a role. I'm grateful for all my exes. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:51:38 Even the terrible ones, you know. Yeah. Yeah, it's all a lesson. Yeah, it's all a lesson. I tell my kids you're never losing, you're always learning. And then my friends are like, shut the fuck up with the gentle parenting.

Starting point is 00:51:50 But then by 6 p.m., I'll drink water or you die. It depends. If you catch me at 11 a.m., it's a gentle parent. That's a great lesson, and I'm not a gentle parent. No, you're the bad cop? No, I mean, we're both. I mean, she's two, so we haven't really gotten a good cop, bad cop yet.

Starting point is 00:52:07 Okay. You know, I'm definitely, me too. No, but I don't, I think there's tough love, you know? I think there's just like, you know. I also think gentle parenting is like such a spectrum. And it's like, I think it's also like, you know, we're not like spanking. our child you know i'm like i i'm trying to teach her like time out and like yeah because there is a consequence to like boundaries yeah she's really good with like emotional regulation with river

Starting point is 00:52:35 she'll like get to her level and talk i love that yeah yeah i think also like something you know i think nick kind of went into parenting is like because taking kind of some of the stuff that his dad did of like you know you don't need to know why it's just because i said so and then i think us being a team and like working together i've really tried to show him him that like she responds so much better to being like I can't let you down in a parking lot because there's cars everywhere and you could get hit and it is dangerous instead of just like no no no no because someday it'll be because we said so well as one with no kids I could suggest that you guys should just rest and go to the spa or something I love it come on call back come on

Starting point is 00:53:18 you are going on tour you're going on tour surviving and thriving tour give it to us give us the deets tell our audience it's very exciting so i'm actually writing season three third and final season and survival the thickest um based off of my book go get it had i known i would have brought like 1100 of my books we could have been so much space i love i love a little book club um and so when we wrap that a week later i'll be going on tour surviving and thriving tour because um i mean my book is called survival of thick is and i did see this quote after i brought my kids home on Instagram, I'm so sorry. And the quote was, the tools that you need to survive won't be the ones you need to thrive

Starting point is 00:53:57 because I had so many losses and it was so hard to have it just a viable whatever that I was like, oh my God, I don't want these kids to die because it was like the dead of winter and they were like four and five pounds. I'm like, aye, aye. And so I'm just like, this is such a shit show. All of it's a fucking shit show. So let's like put on like a v neck and some lip loss and go thrive. I'll be hitting like a lot of like cities in the U.S.

Starting point is 00:54:20 some cities I wouldn't normally go to but I feel like I'm going to show you guys some love because you know we all deserve we all deserve a good fucking night I want to make people laugh so hard they pee themselves a little bit which won't be hard because my demo is over 45 yeah

Starting point is 00:54:33 I'm very excited so anyways anyways sorry he's funny to be so I'm very excited and I think I'm also going to be taking my kids on

Starting point is 00:54:50 tour a little bit. Yeah, like I just love Joan Rivers and like her relationship with Melissa and I'm just like I want to show them what I do. I don't want to live this double life. So I'm doing like Friday and Saturday shows because I feel like everyone's adult, you know, hopefully they learn about the world that way, you know? They do. I think it's the best kind of education to see what your parents do and then also to travel. Yeah. Love. So I'm excited. And where can people get tickets? Go to my website, Michellebuto.org. It's the organization, L.O.L. But also.com. It was like expired and 24 hours later Some fucking

Starting point is 00:55:23 Italian virgin living in his mom's basement In Sicily bought it And it's trying to sell it back to me I couldn't get it Anyways, you just asked me where to get tickets This is what happens when I'm not outside What do I put my shoes back on? Mischalbuto, dot org.org

Starting point is 00:55:41 Dot org, yes, ORG That's right, forward slash titties And good luck for you in that Ah yes, not a why. Anyways, you guys, this has been really fun. Thanks for coming. I don't know if we'll ever see each other again. Why? I don't know. Where do you live? Down the street. That's what I'm talking about. I'm not here. I go to New York sometime. Well, let me know. Well, we're not going anywhere. So if you're back in L.A., let us know. If you're back in L.A., let us know.

Starting point is 00:56:06 We'd love to come here. She's never coming back. Oh, shit. Yeah. May 6th. Like, I'm not 45, but I'd love to come. That's great. I love it. I'm 48. And I play a 39-year-old. Lies a disson. So your goals. When you buy your first home, you want to feel secure. But many new homeowners face a home system or appliance breakdown in year one. And fixing something like an AC unit can cost thousands. That's where American Home Shield can help.

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Starting point is 00:58:40 Okay. I think the question that was missing too is that it's like, does your husband get along with the friend? Because that was my big thing too is that I'm like, yes, you can still have platonic friendships, but I'm like, I just don't think that you're spending the time you would when you're single with the opposite sex that you're not interested in. Like, if I told Connor, like, I'm so sorry, like, I'm going to go with Nick on a bike ride to Venice.

Starting point is 00:58:59 Like, I feel like he would be like, that's kind of weird, no? And it's also, like, to next point, like, you're not confiding in that person, you know, like, I'm confiding in my husband. Like, if I have any other drama and if it's like, I'm annoyed with my husband, I'm not going to another man to talk about that. And I'm not saying you can't have male friends or women. in friends or be friendly with the opposite sex when you're in a committed relationship. And of course, there are exceptions to every rule where, like, there are, you know, just

Starting point is 00:59:27 unique friendships out there, whether it's really just not a thing. But I would say 99.99% of the time, if someone is in a committed relationship and fighting to, like, spend quality time with a friend of the opposite sex, it's, like, to your point, it's like, why? I would say Like, all of, anybody that I would consider a close, like, guy friend of mine is a husband or partner of a friend of mine. Because there's very clear parameters of, like, what our relationship is. There's never going to be a situation where I'm texting my friend's husband at 9 p.m. being like, oh, my God, did you see the episode of said to da-da? I'm texting my friend.

Starting point is 01:00:04 And, like, then we can be in group chats and things and we hang out in group settings. But, like, I'm not, like, ever being like, hey, Wells, want to go hang out and go grab a coffee? Like, I think that's weird. Well, I mean, I, well, yeah, I agree with you. Like my best friends, this was long ago when I was living in Milwaukee and we still, like, you know, I was single. Him and his wife, we'd get coffee now and then, but usually I was like talking about like my bullshit or whatever, you know. But again, like we weren't like, I wasn't fighting for quality time. And to her point, it's it is the relationship that like you have with said person.

Starting point is 01:00:34 Like if you've been in somebody's life for 10 years and their husband's okay with you having a coffee with their wife, great. I just like for me personally, I'm like, I just don't know like what you guys would have to talk about that I wouldn't be invited to it too. So what's your exception, Lou? Why are you wearing in those glasses? Oh my God, I'm sorry. I knew, you know, I knew that something was off. Here we go. It's an entirely different person.

Starting point is 01:00:54 It's an entirely different person. I don't know. I mean, Danny's best friend is a girl and like I'm also close with her. And she doesn't live here. So like whenever she's in town, they hang out, they get lunch, they go to coffee. And like, I don't feel any type of way about it. Like I am glad that she's in his life. I'm glad that she's in mine.

Starting point is 01:01:14 Like, did she go to high school with you and Danny? No, she didn't go to high school. Yeah, she's married. What do they talk about? They've known each other since they were 16. Like, they are in the same industry. They talk about music. They talk about, you know, each other's families.

Starting point is 01:01:30 Like, would you be bugged if, like, he was going to her and being like, Leia has just been, like, pissing me off. Like, she's doing this and she's doing that. Of course. I hope that's not happening. I know, but do you feel like that would be different if it was to a guy, like another guy? like another guy and it was just like guy talk or do you know i hope that's not happening with but i mean i guess it depends to leah don't talk shit about me if you were going to your girlfriends

Starting point is 01:01:52 and saying that shit about me i wouldn't be any less annoyed i don't know i think it's different to like have your girlfriends and be like you're both kind of just like yeah no it is different i can talk shit about him he can't talk shit about me though okay okay i'm with lea i guess it depends on how you talk shit yeah like i call chamblis and i'm like let me recap this argument that I had with Nick, whose cider are you on? Like a pulse check. But I wouldn't do that with a man. But I also have a theory that like men don't like sit down and like have those

Starting point is 01:02:22 types of conversations. Well, you talk, you tell me. But I'm like even then I think like golf, for example. And like golf is like a way that like men can trap another man to hang out with them for nine hours straight and don't have to ask it. Yeah. Like we can literally be like, hey, you want to go grab a glass of wine and you know it's going to be minimum four hours long and we're talking about anything and everything.

Starting point is 01:02:40 Men are like, hey man. Like you want to go golf? That's why they invented golf. That's why they invented baseball. Long sport. Men are not as simple or as emotionally disconnected as, I think. You're led to believe. Like, if Natalie, like, pissed you off a little bit and you were going out to a boy's night.

Starting point is 01:02:57 Like, would you, like, be like, oh, you know, just like a little light venting session to, like, your guys? I'm a big believer not talking shit about your partner. Agreed. But there's a difference between talking shit and venting. Like, I feel like, for example, like, if it's like, Nick left the cabinets open again and it pisses me off every time. And it's like, oh, my God. No, mine literally leaves his. clothes next to the hamper. If I felt like we were disconnected in some way and if I felt like

Starting point is 01:03:19 I needed to talk it through with someone, of course. Right. Which I think men do. Okay. But I just feel like it's like not as like where I'm like, I feel like for women it's a little bit more casual because we bounce things off of each other. Like I feel like it's a lot of like Am I crazy? Is this normal? Am I the asshole? I think with men it needs to feel like more heavier and more like yeah. Yeah, it's not. It's all like a casual like okay. And then also oh, by the way. It's not something to do. Yeah. Yeah. We just play. fantasy football instead. That's what I'm saying. That's what I think like your friendships are where I'm just like,

Starting point is 01:03:47 I don't know. I feel like women just like need to feel very connected to each other, know that we're not insane, knowing that like everything that's happening in our relationship is normal or like if we need to talk about it. Well, other words, Michelle or Leah, I do think there are exceptions to rules and lifelong friendships like certainly can be that exception.

Starting point is 01:04:04 But like if you're, if you are like you meet someone, man or woman doesn't matter the gender and they're like, I've been, this is my best friend and you're like, calling you been friends or like four years and you're like in your late 20s this is weird you know

Starting point is 01:04:19 yeah and someone wanted to fuck someone at some point do you think Jared Osman has female friends 100% so many female friends so many female friends and he's definitely fucked them all or tried or tried actually I think if he hasn't they're not friends I think he's given up I don't know though he becomes friends with olives

Starting point is 01:04:37 the women I mean yeah I think it's I think it's egg after chicken you guys you guys aren't even like giving him any credit Okay, like he has women that are contacting him Only when they want to go to dinner or like have a nice gift It must be really hard It's tough out there It's really hard to be in Austin

Starting point is 01:04:52 We have to apologize But I want awesome this episode Everybody this episode It was like a showdown It was like just every two seconds It was like looking at someone else How could you not be team Angie? I know

Starting point is 01:05:04 Well Angie was pissing me off a little bit Say more She was definitely being like very childish And like that well you started it Well, you did. Well, you did. No, well, you did that first. But she did that first. But at the end of the day, you have to be like, okay, we're adults and, like, who gives the fuck? Let's move on. I'm sorry. You're sorry. We're good. She definitely wasn't the bigger person that is reserved for Browen. Browen's the only bigger person. Heather can be the bigger person, but Heather's usually two chicken shit to. And sometimes she's the first of reason. Heather's been good this season.

Starting point is 01:05:34 Heather's kind of doing what you want, Nick. She's not... I mean, she's talking out of both sides of her mouth a little bit, but she's getting there. I think she's waiting for the moment that she has to renew her contract. Yes. She has to be willing to, like, stand on business. Like Angie. Angie is willing to be like, listen, if it's me against all of you, then fuck it.

Starting point is 01:05:53 Let's go. Like, I don't think she wants to be on an island. I think she wants to have allies. But she is not afraid to, like, save. what she believes. And like, sure, is she being petty, you know, fine? Is she throwing a black card in Lisa's face? Is she throwing Electra's horse on the ground?

Starting point is 01:06:08 Yes. Well, if you have no idea what we're talking about, and you miss the most recent episode of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Here is your rapid recap. Whitney is transitioning into songwriting. She also takes the girls to get psychic readings at a vineyard that apparently, according to Merriam Cosby, the former owner,

Starting point is 01:06:24 killed his wife and then himself in on Christmas Day in front of their dog, and then the dog was not normal after. Yep. So off to an incredible start. Lisa is done taking the high road with Angie. Lisa also thinks she would be a great farmer for a week. Brittany is apparently an expert realtor. However, she is not an expert at breaking up with Jared. He calls her four times throughout luncheon. So all of the girls get emotional psychic readings. This is what's going on outside. Lisa denies rumors and nastiness about Meredith. She also calls Angie Satan. Heather doesn't buy it. The cracks are

Starting point is 01:06:55 showing. Angie then throws her black card in Lisa's face. So Lisa ups the ante and brings the term shortly into her vocabulary and also reveals she has 12 threads on each side, not a facelift, as Angie was claiming. Angie then brings a Tupperware filled with Lisa's gifts and throws them all out. All of the women try to band together to get both of them to shut the fuck up. It doesn't take. Lisa storms off before they can resolve anything, but the psychic told Angie that Electra's horse was going to get injured,

Starting point is 01:07:22 and then Angie threw it and broke Electra's toy horse. Spooky! Mary is a lover of horses and sick of all the chaos. She says she's done with Angie. No, overall, has anyone seen a black card in real life disgust? I have it, actually. I have many. A what?

Starting point is 01:07:37 A black card. What's that mean? Black MX. The thick ones, the heavy ones? Oh, yeah. No, I have it. I have not. Definitely have.

Starting point is 01:07:44 But can we just say how funny it was this entire, like, psychic experience while every... The editors were amazing. Each woman that would walk into the room, like, oh, my God, hi, like, nice to meet you. And all of a sudden, you just hear in the back, they're like, yeah, yeah, and it's, like, all of them just, like, fighting in the background. like, I have chills. How could they know that? And this is a montage of Britney like talking about her disconnect with her daughter. Yeah, I don't really talk to them because they think

Starting point is 01:08:07 they, I should give them attention instead of dating Jared Osmond. I just genuinely appreciate it because I just think that Tara Carr reading psychic bullshit is bullshit. I don't think so. I don't think so. You have all these public figures. I've done one where I was like, there's things that have happened. You want to believe.

Starting point is 01:08:23 No, no, no, no. I'm talking like very specific involving a legal case that like literally like nobody would have known about and this woman put down like 50 cards and I was like what are you talking about and everything happened. Well he wasn't one of them. I'm sorry. That's fine. That's fine. He was talking their Instagram stories and watching previous seasons of Housewives. There was a season of Orange County where Vicky I think got a psychic after her mom passed and the psychic Tamara was in the room with him and it was Vicky and her brother and he was like yeah your mom just wants

Starting point is 01:08:52 you to know that she like left okay and like she's not to be worried about her and somebody got a tattoo recently and she was like yeah my nephew your mom doesn't love the tattoo and then Tamara goes what's it off and the psychic goes so like we don't like the interruptions throughout here because like you know the connection is being broken but I was like that it was

Starting point is 01:09:12 giving a OC lie detector where it's like you got a bug in his ear producers are like feeding him information and also Whitney Rose set this up where I'm like God bless but even her her little gimmick in the beginning with the strippers for the FBI rating the RV. Like, it's just like, here's my cue.

Starting point is 01:09:29 Like, I'm like, you know you fed this guy, all the information. Like, telling Meredith that one of her friends is, like, not really her friend. And then Angie coming in during it, trying to get the ball. Yeah. Same with Lisa, too. It's like, Whitney, like, you can't trust somebody in your friend group and Lisa walks by, like, blows a kiss. Here's my cue.

Starting point is 01:09:47 Am I the only one who feels like Mary overreacted? No, absolutely not. Like, I don't, I'm done with you. Like, she spoke truth. You, like, why, why do all the women give Lisa a pass for Lisa has come from them all and said just like horrible shit about them like stuff that if you wanted to be like you know what I don't hate you I forgive you but like I don't fuck with you like that you crossed the line and Angie has standards I'm not like team

Starting point is 01:10:13 Mary in the way that she stormed off but I do understand her just trying to level with her friend and getting her to cool down and then she just completely disregards you and then you know Angie was like hot and I think Mary just was like I'm not doing this we're done Don't call me your friend if you are saying things like, don't expect me to be mad at them just because they're like they're mad at you. No, I do. Or we're not friends. We're casuals.

Starting point is 01:10:37 Like, I would marry on that one. That's how I operate too. Oh, what do you mean? Like, I don't need to like hate someone like with all like passion if just because you're beefing over something like done. But who is this person? Like if, if Max, for example. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:10:50 Like, I feel like if he was throwing a tempter tantrum throwing cards at everybody, I'd be like, okay, well, like, well, like, if he's throwing a temper tantrum, then sure, you need to check the person having a temper tantrum. But if someone wronged, Max, truly wronged him, hurt him in a way that he's like, hey, this person hurt me. I'm hurt by them. And that person did nothing to you. You're still like, you know what? They didn't do anything to me.

Starting point is 01:11:13 Yeah, okay. Definitely not that. But I think Mary, I think what Mary was irritated by was the fact that she was trying to get her best friend to calm down and it took, like, it didn't work. And the second that she left, Angie stopped because I think Angie was like, oh, like, that was serious. That's the thing. I think it has way less to do with Angie and Lisa feuding Mary's feelings. Mary's going to ride for Angie. I think Mary just feels that Angie kind of disrespected her and the way that she was like, I need you to just listen to me and Angie wouldn't do it. That's what I read. That's giving like a little Britney Bateman like, what about me? Like in this moment right now, you've got Angie who's fighting with Lisa and who's genuinely hurt by what Lisa did.

Starting point is 01:11:50 And it's like, now it's like, but you're not listening to me. And it's like, no, because I'm focused on a. Like right now where I'm like this is a conversation that we should be having otherwise and also like sorry when your best friend's also on a TV show that I'm like when she's popping off like that like you know Angie's seeing red right now that she's not going to be hearing you and if you're best friends. When you're in the middle of being triggered and your friends, the first thing they do is try to tell you to stop and then in any way I guess defend the other. It's just going to sound like it sounds to them like you're taking their side. You're telling me to shut the fuck up right now to behave and to get along with somebody. And that's what I agree with Angie, too, is like, Angie's allowed to have her feelings. Lisa comes in with her feelings all the time about people. She invited people just solely to show her little poster boards because she wanted to say, gotcha.

Starting point is 01:12:32 So I'm like, let Angie have her moment of clearing up. Why did you bring this up? And even then, Meredith is the one that kicked off all of this shit. And then was literally like, sorry, my hands are clean. Yeah. Meredith definitely did not buy the tarot. She was like, interesting. I've never been there before.

Starting point is 01:12:48 Say, I do love a woman that throws something. I think that's what I've come to realize on Salt Lake City. The second they're throwing something, I'm like, my, my girl. I'm in. Yeah. You got me. And then Brittany tried to stuff the black card in her bro. I do.

Starting point is 01:13:00 Brittany deserves her snowplay after this episode. Like in the beginning when she was trying to bring up like the records of the house being sold. But nobody, nobody acknowledged her for like a good two, three minutes. And she just kept going. And they came for her hair and she took it like a champ. She did. Would you guys just stop talking about my hair? Guys.

Starting point is 01:13:18 She's like, it is so. It is so that girl who is like, yeah, that's my best. with all of them. What are you talking about? And then they're all like, no, we don't like you. And they're like, they're like, they're so funny. And also a defensive Angie yet again, where I'm kind of like, even Mary, you're there. You do not like Britney. I'm like, Britney was poking Angie about her house, already getting her feathers ruffled that it was like Meredith comes in with Lisa. Lisa calls her Satan and it's, it's game over. Okay. Here's the thing. You guys know I ride for Meredith Marks. And I will always ride for Meredith Marks, no matter what she does. However, Meredith,

Starting point is 01:13:50 Lisa obviously did say that to Angie. Why are you letting her off the hook? I just, I'm like, Meredith, you deserve a better friend than Lisa Barlow. It does give that Lisa genuinely has dirt on some of these people. She has seven lawyers. But even Lisa's hot mic moment and when she's going off about Meredith, that it's just like, this woman, she's literally filming out of location with you and ran to the bathroom to expose all of your shit with being miced up. You don't think she's having a little key.

Starting point is 01:14:20 key at tea time. What Angie said literally is the hot mic moment. And also this just also confirms between this and Secret Lives Mormon Wives, like I will never be able to exist in Utah. Like these women are on some other shit. Truly. They would crucify me. I don't think I'd be able to survive in Potomac because y'all know I have excessive

Starting point is 01:14:38 sweat glands and sometimes I'm not smelling like great in the armpit area. And like that's, it's a medical disease. So like, watch yourself. But I feel like they would hold it against me for the end of time. I was going to say you don't want to come to a group workout and they have a bowl of deodor and just for you on your map? Literally, I would, I would move. I mean, Tia's my favorite.

Starting point is 01:14:59 Tia is great. Yeah, she's great. The princess? Yes. Yeah. I want to hang with her. Well, if you did not watch the most recent episode of the Royal House Vives of Potomac here's your rapid recap, we pick up at Ashley's second bloom to finish the fight.

Starting point is 01:15:11 Giselle doesn't think Stacey is really divorced either, but still she rises. Then a woman comes to do a burlesque randomly. Stacey is the only level-headed one in the group. according to Stacey, Wendy is not buying any of this. However, she did return it to insurance. Tia and Giselle are bonded because they both have twins. Tia doesn't want to drive because she doesn't want to look haggard. Also, her husband is a nerd. Ashley's situation ship isn't Jack Harlow. It's just a dude named Josh. He has too much product in his hair. Angel is a rookie to this group of women, but certainly not a rookie woman. Kay and Greg are good for today, but apparently Wendy had

Starting point is 01:15:42 asked Kay at an event if she had done her own makeup tea, and Angel defended Wendy, more tea. Giselle didn't know that friends chin-checked each other. Angel has the girls over for Tranquility-themed hang and gives them all spiked tea. Wendy thinks it's giving get-out. Gizel doesn't like tranquility. She likes lies and foolishness. Angel also makes it clear that she would never get chin-checked. She would only chin-check.

Starting point is 01:16:02 Stacey arrives late and makes sure to pop a mint before asking the women to do a cleansing breath, that she then shows Ashley's fake divorce papers to prove her case. Also, it's Karen's birthday, Giselle, Kay, Ashley, and Cookie get together to pour one out for the girl. Overall, is Stacey the Brittany Bateman of this group. heard was how many chins could chin chick chick chick chink could check chins literally all I heard is oh I saw Puss

Starting point is 01:16:24 yeah the burlesque Puss yeah that and they're all like this is okay we've had honestly Puss is such a like a more digestible word than adding that extra yeah I'm with you yeah I do I do like Puss

Starting point is 01:16:40 well it's also like LES is more fun to say than like lesbian yeah pat the Pats yeah Pat the Puss is that Eric Jane Erica Jane Pat the pus. Pat the plus. Yeah. I think the women are taking it too far with the breath mints things.

Starting point is 01:16:52 I'm sorry. Like, now it's just cruel. It's giving bullying. Watch what happens live. Andy used like a graphic of Stacey with bad breath. It was like, people were a call to Mal being like, that's bullying. Like, it's going too far. Yeah, that's way too far.

Starting point is 01:17:03 I'm like one episode fine. One episode, one slide joke in front of her. Yeah. In front of her is fine. Just to let them know. Just to let them know. Just so they can deal with it. But now we're on to the next and you have a bowl of mints.

Starting point is 01:17:15 And then you, everyone is laughing. thing at her it's giving you from room make a comment next room make a comment outside make a comment like I'm like this is just like it's not funny anymore I think I think when people continue to make fun of you for the same thing it's like guys there are other things you can roast me for your breath yikes and with Jeff Lewis on yeah and Ashley Darby yikes yeah that's not nice yeah um Wendy was killing me though when she had Stacy over and she was like child like what do you mean she's like are you engaged no i'm back with my husband so you pay tj to come on for a season to get back with your husband i'm done and then she's like i have to

Starting point is 01:17:56 use the restroom what are you doing in the restroom she's like i need to use the facilities i like talk about people like not trusting you girl like you're also like someone comes to my house and they're like where's your restroom like why what are you going to do in there i've like seen too many movies or they're like going through the medicine cabinet you know they're like doing too many things in your bathroom that's like why do you need to use my You didn't go before you came here? Yeah. You knew we were filming?

Starting point is 01:18:18 You can't hold it. Also, confirmed, TMZ confirmed it that Stacey was divorced, actually. Did you see that? Did we see the file? I mean... Well, if TMZ said it. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:18:28 But a ton of people have been reporting on it that the couple married in September 2007 and separated in August 20203 and then they were divorced in December 16th of 2024. So why can't Ashley find it? Why can't Stacey just say that? Yeah. Because she doesn't want to? Stacey is being like...

Starting point is 01:18:46 weirdly cagey, very cagey about it. If someone accuses you of something that, like, isn't true, I feel like it's like, you're just like, yeah, no, bitch, sorry, you're looking in the wrong place. Like, I don't know. And Google better. I don't know. You get naturally cagey when your friend group is like just.

Starting point is 01:19:03 Coming for you. Overly judgy and just like having strong opinions about your relationship. It's like, you know, you tend to be cagey. I also feel like that is just Stacy's personality. That's how she reacts to kind of. of every situation. She has kind of the Britney mate in another group. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:19:19 But like I feel like there's just something very inauthentic about her because, I mean, there's too many questions that she can't answer, but then she plays the victim the whole time. It'd be one thing if you're owning, you're like, I don't owe you shit kind of thing. But it's like the way that she goes about it is like, I just can't believe you guys would say these things about me, but I'm not going to like give proof to shut you guys up. I mean, one of my favorites, like, housewife clips that I've seen and now watching Potomac, I really appreciate it even more, is a clip of Stacy at the reunion, quoting Maya Angelou,

Starting point is 01:19:45 being like instill I rise and everyone just going oh my god like that's Stacy yeah yeah have you watched Potomac for a while like a couple of seasons yeah same yeah so I guess my question to you

Starting point is 01:19:57 about Stacy is she's only been on one other season yeah she came in as a friend of Karen so in her in her stint so far does she and I know a lot of people like this right like and Brittany Britney Mittman is very much like this Britney won't come for you Britney just wants everyone to like her

Starting point is 01:20:12 she doesn't want to she doesn't come for people unless you come for Lisa Barlow apparently yeah but you know there's a lot of people who is just like I won't talk to about you because I don't want you to talk shit about me and so is Dacey very much like that or are she coming for people often yeah I don't think she really like talks shit about people it's more so like her own stuff that like when people ask her about it it's like it's very unclear and like that's what I'm saying yeah but like that's and so like like Brittany it's just like maybe she has her stuff but she doesn't want like she doesn't want to talk about it and she doesn't want to have to always explain

Starting point is 01:20:44 herself and she's not acting like like brittany brayman doesn't like people pick on her she's an easy target but i don't think brittany is going around offering like relationship advice and saying that i'm the standard of love and parenting and dating and she's not going after her peers for their flaws she's just like be nice to me but brittany also like puts everything on the table you know what i mean and it's very much like okay yeah i haven't talked to my daughter in this long and i choose jared over my kids or whatever the fuck like she's very like this is the reason why I make the decisions that I make, or at least why I think it makes sense. Whereas, like, Stacey, it's like presenting as this fully put together person and there's

Starting point is 01:21:21 too many holes. And you can't come on housewives. Stacey did her first, literally her introduction is her saying that she like was separated and getting a divorce or something. But to Carlos's point, you can't come on housewives and try to like frame your narrative around the type of person you are because in the other housewives are also going to smell that out and be like, what about this and what about that? If you're 100% authentic or owning it, then it's interesting to watch, but you can't even root for Stacey in this moment while she's literally being bullied by the rest of the cast

Starting point is 01:21:48 because you're like, what am I defending? Yeah. What do I know about you? Not to go back to Salt Lake City, but I can't, I can't not mention it. The Rehouse Wives of Salt Lake City did a us weekly cover that was referencing a very famous desperate housewives photo shoot. And Sierra, I'm wondering your thoughts.

Starting point is 01:22:04 I mean, it's iconic. It's iconic. It's fucking iconic. And Lisa Barlow is in the space of Miss Susan Meyer, herself, Terry Hatcher and Meredith is Eva Longoria or Gabrielle Solis yeah Heather is Nicolette Sheridan Nicolette Sheridan and then you have Whitney was Lynette Scavo that like the mom of five I didn't watch desperate hospital oh my god it was after the one who left Whitney was Felicity Huffman which I'm like I think we need a switch for Eva and Terry I didn't really

Starting point is 01:22:34 know well the best part of it all is that Mary Cosby is Brie Vanekamp and like all of the women are in kind of low-cut, like, slit dresses. Then you've got Mary and, like, her conservative, like. She owns a church. She does own a church. She does own a church. And we will never see her cleavage. Yep.

Starting point is 01:22:51 And I think the really funny part of it is if you know Desperate Housewives' lore, you know that Terry Hatcher was always on the outside with the rest of the group, and they did not like her. And but she throughout the time was like, well, I'm the star of the show. Because they're real and spectacular. Yeah. And then so Lisa Barlow being Terry Hatcher really made me. I guess to wrap Housewife

Starting point is 01:23:12 Recaps, because this is something people are talking about, do you give the gift back to someone you don't like? Because I feel like we learned our lesson with Beverly Hills and the bunny. If you want to, shit, yeah, if you're... Yeah, if you want to have a fight. I think it's petty. But I also live for that level of petty, because I could never.

Starting point is 01:23:31 How do you feel, how do you think Lisa feels knowing none of these women are drinking her tequila? I think she'd been known. Yeah. Monogram bottles even. It's a pretty bottle. That doesn't mean anything. But bless, you know, whatever.

Starting point is 01:23:46 And Tom will drink it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think that'll do it for this episode. Thank you for listening. Thank you to our guest, Michelle Buttoe. Be sure to check out her shows. You can get tickets at Michellebutto.org.

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