The Viall Files - E1052 Housewives Impressions And Hot Takes W Miguel Luciano Rhobh Southern Charm And Holiday Plans

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

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I am your host, Nick, joined by my glorious, stunning, sensational. Two dogs. Jeff and Steve. Are they sitting on the couch? They are. Love them in my life. How you doing, my... I'm doing good.

You know, we're in a winter wonderland. River is actually like enjoying the snow, which has been fun. And has been. Sierra and Leia are joining us right now. We have the rest of the household standing by this episode as well. And a great episode for you. Miguel Luciano, you probably know him. If you follow Bravo at all.

He's been making a name for himself doing some hilarious impressions of some of your favorite housewives and the impressions that we all love an impression. And even the housewives love these impressions. highest form of a compliment. So this is us trying to suck up to Housewives? Anyway we can. Anyway we can. He joins us later this episode.

If you want to just have some fun laughs this holiday season, you will do so with Miguel Luciano. And then we have some great episodes, Southern Charm and Beverly Hills, which is this crushing their best premiere. Oh, yeah. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, season 15, returns, scores Bravo's biggest season premiere on Peacock. Leah literally read that to me eight minutes ago.

Now she's like, oh my God, look what I found. They're like, no, it's not right. What day of Hanukkah are we in, Leah? It's over. It's over. It ended last night. Yeah. My holiday season has concluded.

Welcome back to work. No, but it'll continue. I'll celebrate Christmas this year. If we can continue the holiday season, spirit. Christmas. Yeah. I love that. Sometimes they fall out at the same time.

What did you get Danny for Christmas? Oh, Hanukkah. What did you get a Hanukkah? Nothing. We're going to get massages. Yeah, yeah. We're going to get massages. Okay.

Do you have a, do they come to your house? I've done that before, but I think I want to, like, go somewhere. Yeah, I hate when you come to the house. I don't. Then you got, like, River being like, hey, mom. And the dogs are like, yeah. And then you hear just, it's just too much. I like the whole spa.

I want to take a shower afterwards. Maybe a steam. Like lotion. Yeah. Yeah. Blow dry my hair because I can in there. Yeah. Yeah.

Guys, I'm happy to report that now I've got a couple of really magical gifts. Oh, you did it. You got the gifts? You went shopping? Here's the thing. If it's the thought that counts and I hear it does. Does it Natalie? I hear that really expensive gifts are a great alternative.

Also not wrong. I've heard that too. I've been like a very well thought out gift or a very expensive gift. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. There's what? It talks.

That was a question. Yeah. It's like both these gifts, almost zero thought. But you know she wants them and would love them. I think that sometimes I think that that matters the most where I'm like, I appreciate like a well-thought-out gift. But like, if you know your person, get them what they like. Well, Natalie has a note. You guys have a shared list, don't you?

Mm-hmm. A shared notes app. She couldn't make it easier for her. How was it going shopping? It was a very, very expensive, thoughtless Christmas. I love that for you, Natalie. Did you have to go in person to the store? Did you order it online?

I went to the store and then had him ship one of the gifts here. Okay. And then the other one I brought with us because it was able to fit. Oh, that's so exciting. Do you know what they are, Natalie? I do, yeah. Also, share it with the kids. class. I would like to know. He's like, do we have to wait? It's in the notes up.

You said the ones I got checked off. You know both of them? I can like guess for sure. Are you, are we happy? I mean, one of them I've never seen in person. So like definitely excited. Well, both. I guess I've never seen in person. But like excited to see in person for sure. But I also get the notifications from the Amex. So all the purchases. That's crazy. That's crazy. I was like, oh, here he is. Nick thinks he's sneaky. And she's just like, why am I even bothering having them hide and getting? Nick, you could also probably also check that Amex and see what you got for Christmas. Or you could just wait. I'm going to start thinking about next year's gift.

Tomorrow. Tomorrow. What's funny about that wish list is that it is truly like the most random list. It's truly stuff for me to be like, you know how you go and you make, you fill a cart? And like that's usually the funnest part of online shopping. And that's what I do. I fill the cart and then I'll just like copy and paste said cart into this like notes app. And then whenever I'm feeling it or birthday or Valentine's Day, it's like, oh, he can just dabble in.

And so if he were to have thought of Christmas gifts maybe a little, like two weeks in advance, he could have gotten the like the cashmere socks, the $60 sweatsuit, the like face lotion, you know, he could have really got off inexpensive. But I, but I panic in last minute. And I will say, I think my wife more than deserves these luxurious gifts. I also think I deserve luxurious gifts. She needs to feel You have to advocate for yourself She needs to feel

Important and taking care of it And expensive And I think she deserves it Thank you I can't win Diamonds are a girl's best friend I can't wait And it's on a purse is

I couldn't I truly couldn't spend enough Well if that's the case I have a couple more things I can send you Anyways And yours is thoughtful Your is exactly

His is thoughtful That's how she gets me And there's really nothing you can do when it's just like, I've put so much thought into this. I've never loved anything more. My mom made me a wind chime before I bought the lakehouse. And she, it was this big metal. It was when you bought the house in L.A.

Yeah. It was like a home. It was like a, but it was this giant metal wind chine. And I just had no place to put it outside where it'll, it's in storage right now in L.A. He was going to say, did you act like you loved it when you got it at least? Not enough. Not enough. Did you cry?

When somebody makes something for you? Not giving all the thought that would end do it. She was like, where's that windch? He was like, I think it's broken in the bottom of the closet somewhere. She was like, hey, just, I didn't. I wrote my hands for nothing. Months on that. Yeah.

But then all of Nick's other gifts are literally things he asked for, which is just like me listening, you know? He's like, oh, I could do that. I could also love that. You're an incredible wife. And an amazing mother. I do want to give a shout out to Madison LaCroix who at BravoCon graciously gifted Natalie, one of her pajamas. And I got to say, I'm into him.

Super cute. Super cute. Like, you know, listen, Natalie has like her comfy pajamas and they're really, they're really comfy, I imagine. Yeah. Are these the stayaway pajamas? They're kind of stayaway. They're kind of stay away.

That's his own personal. That's him projecting, you know. Yeah. It's just a me thing. But Madison, Madison has these pajamas that look quite comfortable. They are, yeah. They look really comfortable. Very soft.

She wears them a lot. And I got to say, hot. Like, I'm like, do we? Do we not? I don't know. Is she comfortable? Is she like, is she into me? I don't know.

Does she want to take these off right now? I don't. Probably not. Probably not. But either way, she looks hot. So. I think that is normally the question. It's like, do you want to take these off and then have to put them back on?

And it's like, no. No. That's the biggest decision to make. Shout out Madison. Shout out Madison. Made some good jammies. Board Housewife. Anyway, speaking of gift gifting,

last week, Natalie and I exchanged some Secret Santa gifts, and the rest of the household also exchanged some Secret Santa gifts thanks to Amazon. So we're going to show you what the rest of the household got each other for Secret Santa up next. Very wholesome. Very cute. All right. It's part three of celebrating the holidays with the household brought to by Amazon. Week one, we decorated the studio. Week two, we did a Secret Santa starting with Nali.

and I exchanging gifts. Because of course we drew each other's names. Lucky. Out of a hat. Now we have Sierra, Mary, and Justin to exchange theirs. As a reminder, these are all gifts under $50 that we found thanks to the helpful Amazon's AI shopping assistant. And if you are struggling in this holiday season to find a perfect gift at any budget for

any person, know that Rufus has your back. Who's starting? I want to say I probably won this round of Secret Santa, by the way, because I'm so good doing it. Okay. Okay. You're still good at asking, asking Rufus? I was going to say, I think I nailed it. So who's going to go first? I say, Mary. Okay, Mary. Okay, let's see. Who got me? It was me. Okay. Okay. Oh, cute. Wait, is that her story? Yes. I've been wanting that for so long. Hair story is really good. Air story, my, my stylist has been telling me my hair story forever, and I told Sierra.

Well, you have to thank Rufus because I forgot what the name of it. it was, but I pulled your name and I was like, Mary was telling me about her hairstylist using this product. So I was like, Rufus, what is the best conditioner but cleanser? That is what they gave me. And I was like, I believe this sounds exactly like the name of what Mary suggested and was talking about, but I hope I got it. Yeah. Was it the one? It is the one. Thank you. It's the one, baby girl. Now you can stop wearing a hat to work. Oh, wait. So you don't have to use a shampoo with this one. When I go get my hair cut and my hairstylist Sarah, shout out Sarah, well, like, use this product on me. And my hair always is like so, it's like not frizzy.

The texture is beautiful. Like it really just like lets my hair breathe and like actually have like it's normal like, you know, style and wave and whatever. I'm always chasing that feeling. And then she finally started posting about what she was using and it was hair story. And I was like, well, let me try this. And I told Sierra about it. And look at that.

I'm kind of impressed by Rufus because like I feel like there's so many different like hair products you can by. And like I've seen this one. Like this is a specific one. Yeah. We said the best. New wash. Only the best for our Mary. Yeah. Who's next? It smells nice too. Wait, who did you get? I got Justin. Okay, Justin. Justin.

Oh. Wait. I didn't know. They still make us. Okay, wait. Mary, explain what this is and why you got it. This is exactly like on point for me. Okay. So basically this is an Amazon TV fire stick. and it is because do you know how many times Justin and I are having a conversation and I'm like, have you seen this movie? And he goes, no. And I'm sick of the excuse. And he's like, well,

I don't have like other streamers available to me at once. Like I don't have Amazon Prime video. And I'm like, well, we need to change that. And my fire stick broke like after having it for years the other week. And I'm so sad about it. She's, she's, I love my TV. But you know, sometimes you need a fire stick to like give it a little booze. You should watch happiest season on Amazon Prime. I'll watch all the Christmas holiday movies on this stick. Don't know. No one called Justin. He is booked and busy.

Very thoughtful mayor. He's on D&D. All right. I got Sierra and I always talk about like skincare, like self-care and she's like a bathaholic and I love scents and perfumes and feeling confident. Please tell everybody what I got you. You got me. Cycler vanilla verve

Rich body cream and perfume oil The fact this is under 50 And like picture this Like you always take your baths Under 50 options Making me look bad I don't know if y'all remember last week She got a

I got a lipcloth I will say road lip gloss Not cheap? Did it go wrong? She's not cheap She's not cheap You know what I'm learning about our team about the household is that everyone is such good listeners you know like the communication

here the listening here it's like we all know so much about what the other person loves that it was like so easy to shop for obviously with the help of Rufus but like we also do all know and love each other very much well I think that will wrap actually

it's not surprise we the household also got gifts for Nick and Natalie Well, what is it? Is this it? This is for us? It's a joint present.

Mm-hmm. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Onsy. It's for both of you. I got gloves and a hat. Oh, my gosh. It's basically this is for each of you to wear the Packers onesie.

I'm absolutely going to wait. Thank you guys. Aw. Now, this is a gift. Yeah. It's perfect for you. Do you feel like you're going to use it with your heating pad? It's giving cozy NFL day, you know what I mean?

It is. Turn on that fireball. place, the game, the heating pad, the onesie. I'll be wearing it this weekend. Well, I think that's going to wrap up our holiday festivities. To celebrate the holidays with your family, don't forget to visit Amazon and look for the Rufus icon for smarter, more affordable holiday shopping that makes holiday gifting stress-free.

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Mrs. Pat has no desire to ever give birth again, and she also doesn't think anyone should have sex in a hot tub. Craig hangs out with his assistant to plan his pool party. He's making pinocaladas because Charlie likes them. Shepp apologized to Austin and wants to be a better friend to him. Craig has not done so. Vanita thinks Sally is enabling Craig's behavior. Molly is good at singing.

She's in the studio. Sally is getting chickens because Craig says she should get chickens. Craig feels bad. He snapped at Austin, but he does think Austin is jealous of him being single. Wittner wouldn't throw a pool party on a Wednesday because he's an adult. Molly and Sally are mad at each other. Vanita was spreading rumors about Molly's vagina, but they talk it out and they're cool. Molly is not cool with Sally knowing about it, though.

She kind of pops off on her and says she needs therapy. Sally wants Vanita to let her live, and by live, she means fuck Craig. Shepp wears a George Washington wig and a speedo. He is not eating like the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. However, Madison gives a big sis talk to Craig about his drinking. He's back in therapy, so that's a good sign. And they have Kona Ice at the party. Then Craig is talking about Sally and says, what happens in the hot tub, stays in the hot tub,

which is interesting to say the least. Overall, has anyone ever banged in a hot tub? No. No? Not a hot tub. It's not realistic. Not impossible. Not impossible, but is it ideal?

No. Well, the trick is you start in the hot tub. Mm-hmm. And then when you actually perform said act, you actually are outside of the hot tub. Okay. Like half in half out. Okay. Like in show girls.

Well, no. In show girls, I know exactly what you're talking about. That's all I think of. It's an iconic pool sex scene. Oh, it's amazing. They're in the pool. Yeah. Going around in the

The P and the V are in the W while the P and the V are in and out are in and out. No, but you got to take the P and the V out of the W. Yeah. And on to the dry land.

On to dry land. Makes you wonder how dolphins do it. Dude, the imagery that just popped into my eye. I'm showgirls. What's the W? Water.

Oh. Yeah. I was like, what part is that one? Uh-huh. But you also just like, what are your, what are the top five places to have sex? I mean, bed is number one. That's number one, for sure. I think the car is hot, but that might be just that I'm young.

I honestly haven't done the car since, well. I think you grow out of it. Yeah. I think you're just like, you know, we actually like have maybe a house to go to. A room. I feel like the car was when you were like, moms at home, you know, you have nowhere to go. You don't have any money. In school, you have roommates.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely a college thing. Or high school if you were fucking in high school. I mean. To each their own, I guess. My second time ever was in a car. So was mine in the back of a truck.

And think of the cringy part. Think of how long you were. Not long at all. Not long at all. Oh, no. That's why you had the truck. Not duration, but. Yeah, I was like real quick.

That's it, car. A lot of people do it on the beach. No, beach is sandy. I think showers. I think showers fun. A little moment in the kitchen. On vacation? On vacation?

I was like, I don't know. On vacation. Because I feel like vacation. That's not a plate. It kind of is, right? Because it's like when you get to like the hotel room and you're going to like, it could happen there. It could happen here.

Like I'm like, there's something that's a little bit more exciting about vacation sex. I'm sorry. Kitchen table. Kitchen. That's what I was going to say. I won't be eating at your house. I mean. I have. I have.

I won't be eating at your house. Yeah. That's a thing you just can never tell anyone. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, so I feel like the overall... Anyways, dinner at our place. I'm cooking.

And hot tub. I'm busy that night whenever it is. I did go to your house and we had dim sum at the bar or the island and not the table. And that's too high. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. The bar's too high?

The island. Well, I mean, I guess you could get on. You'd have to lift. There's enough surface space. Like, no one's like lying on the kitchen table. But then I feel like that's hurting like... bones, you know? It's like marble. You're like, ow.

You know, it's not giving like comfy. Anyways, I feel like the like biggest thing that came from this episode was the Molly, Sally, Vanita bit of drama, which Vanita has posted. What did she say? She's issued a statement. Vanita posted, hi, I want to take a moment and talk about last night's episode. I made a careless

comment about Molly. No matter the context, the comment was not my place to share. I understand. that. I did apologize right away and if that apology came across is too casual, I think it was because I didn't want to draw more attention to a situation where she may have already felt uncomfortable or exposed. I've apologized to Molly privately since then and will continue to take responsibility for that moment and for what followed. I said something in a conversation with a friend. In on TV. In front of cameras. The something said turned into something which made another woman feel embarrassed or uncomfortable. That was never my intention, but I also know that intention does not

erase the impact. Molly deserved better in that moment and I am thankful for the grace that Molly gave me. I also want to be clear about this. Another woman's body shouldn't be gossip. Another woman's body is not a joke. Another woman's body is not for judgment ever. I'm owning my mistake and learning from it. I hope that you all can too. It was a great post. Can we be

all inclusive? Is it or is it just the women? Yeah. I think it's just a woman for this case. Yeah. I will say I do find it, and just in general, specifically more for the ladies though. But like, yeah, I mean, there is this growing sentiment over the past, I don't know how many years, so much so that you see people, you even see medical professionals online. My least favorite one, I think it's the most intrusive and

biggest cringe. When you see medical professionals having like TikTok pages or Instagram pages guessing. What kind of plastic surgery, you know, people or other celebrities have based off of their quote unquote expert advice, which it's always like before and it's like a photo of them at 17 and after a photo at them at 37. It's like they've done all of this work. It's like, or maybe they grew up. One of my favorite, they play this a lot all the time. Tom Brady, I'm not.

Tom Brady. Tom Brady played in the NFL for 20 years and they, you know, every year, they take like a shot, like a headshot, you know, for the team, a team shot. So like, there have been times like at the end of his career, they would like, you know, like a rapid fire showed every single. single picture of all the 20 years. And it's just like how much Tom Brady changes just as a man who's over, you know, went from a 21 year old to a 45 year old playing football.

Like we just grow, evolve and change. This is all to say like, yeah, like, I'm sure people have speculated. And I'm sure Tom is, you know. Gungle. Freshened up a little bit here or there. But like, yeah, it's like when women get breast augmentation or whatever it is, I understand there's a sentiment about like, you know, unrealistic beauty standards.

But I feel like we've gone way past that where it's just like we are bowling people into like talking about like work they've had on their bodies. It just seems like really weird that we've gotten to this place in our culture that we force people to talk about whatever work they've gotten done. I think it's also like there's a difference.

I think it's two different conversations as far as like unrealistic beauty standards and then also the way people are so weird about work, everyone's getting done. Like, I think that those are two kind of different things to me. And obviously, they're like, it's a Venn diagram and they're linked and, like, they go into each other. But people get, quote, unquote, elective surgeries for so many different reasons. And at the end of the day, it's no one's fucking business. But also, like, I remember last season when Sally and Molly were, like, getting together.

And I think Molly was talking about how she was getting her boobs redone or something. And Molly, like, opened up about how she had, like, fat transfer done to her boobs. And, like, she opened up about that whole process. And so it's like, if she wanted to talk about her other operation on camera, she probably would have done it then. But it's clear that this was, like, not something. We also don't have the conversation between Vanita and Molly where Molly's telling her about said procedure. And then like the flashbacks of Vanita and Sally talking about it. And it's like who paid for that?

That's what I don't like about it. Where I'm just like taking it too far was like this salacious background of like, oh, Molly couldn't have gotten this herself. She's a model. She's works. You don't know her finances. So it's like why do you automatically assume it has to come from a sugar daddy and all of like, and you're adding all of this extra salacious information when she told you what she had done?

Right. Maybe she just played the obo for someone and they found her music. to be beautiful. She was like, I paid for it out of my account. Exactly. In 2019. Also, there's this weird thing that, like, we're only talking about this because of the area in which the surgery was performed, which I guess we've all kind of decided is like,

whoa, that's too far. But literally, what's the difference between below the waist and above the waist? Like, why in anyone's body is, like, that fair game where you, like, you are forced to tell people like what work you've done or else almost i was going to say my inquisitive nature generally comes from like just sheer jealousy like where i'm like when somebody like reveals something where it's like you clearly got like a new face or something and i'm like oh my god well what is it like my curiosity comes from yeah just sheer jealousy where i'm like i don't know maybe in 10 years if i want that like i would like to know what to ask for it's fine to be curious and wonder and listen not too long ago Kylie

Jenner, right? She like famously like gave out the recipe. Yep. The cocktail. The playbook. And like a lot of people appreciated that. And she was comfortable doing that. And that was awesome. And it's like people want to do that. I think that's amazing people feel comfortable sharing and want to share to help other people out. But the way the way people go online and speculate and literally create rumors. Right. Yeah. About people. And then in some cases, bully them into thinking they need to say something is weird. Well, it's just, it's crazy to me because what happens is basically, and this is kind of that, I guess I'm going back on my point before of like it is kind of linked of just like everyone loves to critique people's bodies and people's appearances regardless of gender or whatever. And then it's like you get to a point that you're so insecure of that that you're like, all right, let me like let me do what I need to do in order to like feel okay about myself. And then you do that and everyone's like shame on you for having to do that. you should have just been like the way that I wanted you to look originally. And it's such like a selfish act to think that somebody needs to look or present like the way that

you think that they should and then be mad when they do it. I don't know. It's just like let people live. Let Molly do what she wants. Because honestly like I'm going to I'm going to get a daddy makeover on my 50th birthday. This is really all about like when I get my abs inserted into my stomach. I just want you guys and mind your business. Yes, of course.

And I will. Yeah. When I insert biceps. Yeah. When you insert biceps, crazy. I did love, Molly's like clap at Sally where she's like, you are mean, you are an asshole, you need therapy. I was like, okay, Molly. Yeah.

I was here for it because I was also like that moment at the end where I'm like, obviously, Vanita Southern Charm, the whole thing where she's leaving. And she like, Craig comes to say goodbye that I am like, of course, as a Southern woman, you're going to have manners. You're not going to be like, thanks for inviting me to your house. fucking jerk by. So she goes and gives him a kiss and then Sally's like, oh, so I can't talk to him but you can kiss him

good on the cheek? I was like, shut the fuck up. And Vanita's response was perfect. You were doing the most right now. Yeah. I'm team Molly and Vanita all the way through in general,

I feel. I would really like, if you're listening, Craig, to be invited. I would like to go to Craig's backyard. It looks lovely. It does. I think it definitely,

after Madison pointed out it's missing, The pool noodles coming out of the water fountains. I was like, this is getting weird. I don't know. But it does look beautiful. Craig built that to fuck. Yes.

The backyard? Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So it sounded like something finally happened, though. But it does seem like a good time. I bet there's like some, you know, bags or cornhole, whatever you want to call it. There's a pool.

There's a barbecue. There's a bee farm. I don't understand why Shep pulled out the wig and Speedo, you know, like some things. I'm going to set up. He kind of looked like, what is it? like He-Man from, what was that game? It was giving like Will Ferrell in like old school. Will Ferrell or Will Ferrell in that one SNL sketch

where he has like the Speedo on? It's just like reliving days that like maybe we don't need to be that person anymore, Shep. Well, I mean, Will Ferrell from old school is a fairly pretty, I feel like good comp for Shep. Yeah. Austin started following me this morning. Wow.

Hey, buddy. He's been following me for years, but he doesn't acknowledge. Did you say something nice about Austin? Yeah, we said Team Austin. in this whole debacle. Yeah. I did for sure. Oh, yeah.

When Craig's... I've been following Austin, I think, for a bit. I'm team Austin this season, but also I get it. Like, I get... Like, if both of them, I would be pissed. I'm team Austin in general. I want them to be friends. I don't, like, I'm not...

Oh, sure, yeah, yeah. I'm not, like, triggered by any of them. I mean... Well, and Craig was on Watch What Happens Live, and he said that him and Austin's relationship is a lot better since the breakup with Audrey, as he predicted it would be. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so.

Craig's opinion, which he is entitled to have, is wild. Craig's inability to admit any fault at all whatsoever is something of an Olympic sport to watch. But like, even if you're right about Austin, that's a huge leap. And like, you're really making it about, like, he's jealous that you, like, that he can't go in a hot tub because you're single. And like, that is, you know that for certain. Like, he doesn't. Everything about his motivation is sent around you being single. Austin's not coming to this party because he knows he started the fight between us.

And I was like, that's a wild place to get to. But the conversation at the coffee after cat shopping was very much Austin being like, I'm jealous. I have FOMO. Like the girls aren't going to hit on me if I'm wearing this outfit versus that outfit. And it was definitely giving like, I don't want to be in a relationship and you are having so much fun with all these girls. in your hot tub, like, sounds nice. Maybe, maybe Craig's right.

Even if he's right, I guess it's just kind of a leap. It was like, two things can be true that I'm like, Austin could be jealous of wanting, of like Craig's single life. But that also doesn't mean that he had any intention of like breaking up with Audrey at any point in that time. So I'm like to bring up some rumor about him fucking girls in New York. Or that every action that Austin makes is centered around this perceived jealousy. He could be a slightly like, oh, it looks like a lot of fun, man. You know, and it's not necessarily motivating him to backstabbing his best friend.

Right, right. Or wanting to get out of a relationship with his girlfriend at that point. So I'm just kind of like I think that Craig's taking it a step further because he's sensitive about the comments and the jokes and whatnot. But I'm like, if someone tells you something in confidence, like you don't throw it in their face later on. Probably has more to do with his girlfriend than it does with Craig. What does? Austin's, oh, yeah. He doesn't like her.

There's that, you know. And sometimes. That probably has a lot to do with it. he's probably just projecting a lot of that onto like Craig. But also like that's also a really weird realization to come to sometimes when you've been in a long-term relationship and you're starting to like fall out of love or like you don't really understand what's going on. You're kind of like, oh, like you're so sweet and you're so great.

Like why am I not into this? Like maybe Austin's just in like a awkward growing pains of like growing out of the relationship that he's in. I want these men to find love. Well, they found it with each other. Speaking of, um, so Brooks Nader was on Watch What Happens Live. and Andy asked, should the audience, should Craig and Brooks date?

This was humiliating. And everyone said no. And then Brooks said, I don't know who he is. It was like an 82%. But then she was like, I do, she was like my hair stylist

also does Paige's hair. So I feel like maybe she does know a little something about it. And maybe she was just saying, like, I don't know him like that. She was doing the Kiki Palmer. Like, I'm sorry. I do not know this man.

Mariah Carey, I don't know her. So I will not be dating a man. I don't know. Did you see the. clip I see at you from Watch What Happens Live last night. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

A friend of ours, Channing, she was in the audience and she asked a question to, she ended up asking it to Brooks, but in the beginning, she's talking to Erica, and she's like, and Erica, I did meet you at Bootsie Bellas, and I know that you do not care for me, and that is okay. So, but she's like, Erica's like, how do you know I do not care for you? It was like the most Channing and Erica moment ever, but it was very funny. So I'm glad she got her moment. Erica did this to someone else at BravoCon. What was the housewife where she was like, it was Angie, Angie Kay.

And she was like, you don't look good in that green. And they got confronted after. And she's like, I don't hate Angie, by the way. Like, I just thought she didn't look good in the green. She was asked about Luanne Delisups. And she was just like, no, I don't care for her. No. Like, it was like something like a where do you and Luanne stand today?

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I just love that she sort of chops up her words sometimes. Like I like that. I'm a fan of when she does that. She does. There's times where she sort of slices it. And other times when she just goes off on a tangent, she's going to let you have it. So true. I love both of them.

The cutting up is good. Well, if you haven't figured it out, we found Miguel because he does some iconic impressions of your favorite housewives, including the icon. iconic Mary Crosby, which you ran into at Bravo Conner here. Yes. Well, first of all, Mary was the first housewife to follow me on Instagram or TikTok. Oh, wow. So she has, she paved the way.

She did. She really did. And it was like, I think a month into me doing impersonation. So that was like the... Had you done her yet? Yeah. I had done like several of her. Like Mary Cosby as like a babysitter.

Mary Cosby as a kindergarten teacher. Love. I had just done Mary as like things. Yes. And so yeah. So Mary has known about me for about a year. But you're Meredith Myers. Quite frankly, I really appreciate you saying that because some of the ladies are trying to ice me out to them.

Particularly, I'm not entirely sure why they would be doing that, but I appreciate you. I really appreciate you because some of these ladies are trying to pretend as if though I am some sort of big villain on a plane. I'm not entirely sure. It's the lack of eye contact. No, and it's just sort of the way that you... You will not look at your face. the head roll I really appreciate. And she's also obsessed with it too.

Like Meredith has the best sense of humor. She's really into it. That's my girl. How many housewives follow you now? Who has discovered you? It's a significant amount. I'm very lucky to say, yeah. Multiple from every franchise.

Two dozen, maybe, I don't know. Wow. Yeah, a little bit around there, yeah. And are we on like a DM level? Is it like, oh, I love this one or this one was good? Yeah, I mean, I'm very lucky to actually be friends with some of them. Like Maris, I say that Marisov had in. for about a week in Miami.

I saw you were shopping on Rodeo with Bronwyn. Yes, Bronwyn and I have become very, very good friend. She's amazing. Meredith and I have had lunch a couple times. So, yeah, I'm very lucky to say that it's kind of evolved into organic friendships. But I've been obsessed with... They don't have lunch with me. No.

You got to come to have lunch with me first. Yeah, yeah. You need to get the Miguel treatment. Yeah, of course. So, yeah, have lunch with me first. And then I'll, you know, give you the Miguel treatment. He'll be like, he's cool. Yeah, exactly.

I'm like, guys. I'd be like, no, who having lunch with? They're going to be like, well, Nick, too. They're like, oh, something came on. No, no, no, no, no. So, something came up. Yeah. I have a tendency to bring out everyone's best side.

Have you met Todd? I have FaceTime Todd. Like, we have spoken through FaceTime, and he's really nice. It's all I hear. I hear nothing but good things in the wild about Todd. Yeah, I mean, look, my perspective of it is that he's one of those husbands that does not want to be on the show. Like, he hates the show. He hates the show.

He hates filming. I mean, I can only imagine how difficult that must be. If you're married to someone who wants to be on a show and you don't, right? How shocked were you to find out the separation? I mean, my friends call me the angel of breakups. I think everyone should break up. So I'm never surprised by anybody. Get out.

Exactly, yeah, exactly. No, I'm actually a third wheel for a lot of black. Yeah, exactly. No, I'm actually a third reel all the time, so I don't really believe that. But I do believe, like, nothing surprises me is what I'm trying to get it. Like, I think I'm more surprised that people stay together for that long. When people tell me they've been together 15 years, I'm like 15 years? It's a long time.

Are you sure? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So, I don't know, nothing surprises me, really. Okay. Especially, and I think people have spoken about it in the housewife world, those shows kind of magnify things for people. Yeah. And I think sometimes when you're in it, you can't really see it. And then when you see it on camera, you're like, oh, wow.

Not saying that that's what happened with them, but I think in general, that's probably the common denominator as to why so many couples sort of dissolve on television is because you're seeing yourself in HD. Yeah. Yeah. And you're also getting a lot of outsiders' opinions that. Yeah. I feel like maybe can get into your own head and be like, oh. You're like, I don't deserve him. He did eat my cherry off my plate.

And I did want that. Yeah, yeah. When you see it like in front of you versus like having the experience inside of you, it's very different. It's already tough enough to have a relationship and have like friends have input. I couldn't imagine having millions of strangers commenting being like, you should divorce tomorrow. Yeah. I was rewatching.

I was on a flight yesterday from New York. So I was rewatching New Salt Lake City. because they only had the season five on the plane. And they really, they got on her pretty quickly. Yeah. Salt Lake City spent no time commenting on her relationship, like very little. And then they ended it with one foot on the grave, one on and a banana peel. I'm like, that's the meanest thing I've ever heard in House Stories, by the way.

Right? I don't think there's any meaner. I always thought it was weird when they like came for her about the pre-nub or the lack thereof. And I would have thought they would have been like, no pre-nub. Good for you. You don't even have a pre-not? Yeah. Why?

Well, the Salt Lake City ladies, in particular, those that have had a issue with Bronwyn, they have been like, they have, and this is my opinion even before I became friends with Bronwyn, they were pretty committed to misunderstanding her from the get. Like, Heather was clear that she did not. No new friends. Yes, of course. Yeah. She didn't fuck with her from the beginning.

Yeah. She did not fuck with her from the beginning. So she was ready to just like do the thing. That's my opinion. But, yeah. Well, we have the Royal Housewives of Beverly Hills. We have a rapid recap for those of you who missed the most recent episode. Baby.

Bose is hosting a matchmaking event for all of the women. Everyone shows up wearing black unplanned. Rachel Zoe won the biggest flirt award at a day camp when she was a kid. Erica does not know how to flirt and has zero game offstage. Sutton is trying to be more dominant in life. Doreet doesn't know the difference between the west and the east side of L.A. because she lives in the valley. But all of the men are into her regardless of the side of town she lives on.

Kyle wants to get married again. She was in fact in love after Moe and it didn't work out. and she says she could go for Brad or Angelina. Doreet's kids did in fact go to Florida. Let's go. Amanda manifested her man and her family because she's a boss like that. She teaches people about money only based on vibes. Sutton is considering changing her last name back to Brown after the annulment.

Kyle hopes that Alexia doesn't have to go through what she did with Mo. P.K. and Doreet didn't have a pre-up and she just found out that he stopped paying for things. There's also no retirement account that Dorete knows of. She's basically on her own. Don't worry because Amanda is there for a vibe-based financial advice. Alderite knows she needs to do is decide the kind of rich woman she's going to be. And that's it. That was a little bit of like, I was on Bose a side worse. Like I was waiting on like one plus one equals. And she's like, you. Yeah. Not like, okay, set your intention. Yeah. Think clearly, really visualize.

See yourself there. What type of provider do you want to be? It's like just one. Just a. Just a provider. Yeah. When we're trying to figure out how to pay for the mortgage and for ballet, we're not really. we're not really in the place to set long-term goals. Right. Even though I get that, like at some point you do have to have like a structure for your life. It's more just like how are we going to, he's not paying the mortgage anymore. Yeah. So how are we going to pay the mortgage this month?

Yeah. Like I need some advice. I thought it was going to be like a startup or like here's how we get into business. Here's some good investors you can reach out to. But in what's that girl's name Amanda? Amanda. In Amanda's defense, she doesn't claim to be like Susie Orman. She's exactly who she says she is.

a money manifest her. That's true. She's not saying like... Yeah, she's saying, I'm going to help you manifest it and create it and think of it into existence, which I do believe works. So I think as much as I saw Bose's perspective,

I think Bose was setting her up a little bit. Bose is a genius. Yes. Bose is a lot of things, but dumb she is not, right? And I like Bose, by the way. That was not shade. I'm just saying, I like her. But for her to be like,

why don't you tell her what she should do? When Bose has already done her research on her and knows that she does manifestation and more of empowerment was, that was, she was trying to make her look down. Do we do a Doreet impression? Absolutely, Pee-Pie.

But my favorite Doreet is the one where she's sort of emotional and looking at you. Because she has the version where she calls you a stupid bitch. Well, stupid. But I'm not saying that on. You can say it.

Stupid. But I absolutely love the version of her where she's looking at you. And I love this season. She did it a lot last episode where she has her hands out. And she's sort of grabbing these melons Oh yeah

Feeling the melons at the grocery store Kyle So yeah I'm a big fan Deree was great at BravoCon She could not have been more of a doll Your video of doing the babies Baby Right

It was like identical I think I would like to I would buy a Doreet calm Oh Lessing like reading Oh Like a bedtime story Like good night moon

Like her What's that children's book? Good night moon? Yeah yeah like her reading Good night moon Or the giving trait by Shell So, The cat in the hat.

I would read that too. She's such a doll. And I really love Doreet on fire. Yeah. Like I'm going to say, do you remember that Carol Radzwell said about Darynda when she's bad? She's so good.

I'm going to kind of have to put Doree Kemsley in that category. I kind of loved when she, and I really like Kyle. But she... Like across the table screaming at Kyle last season. I was living for it. Because the bottom line is that Doreet and Kyle

do not like each other. they've never liked each other. That's why it was easy for this to dissolve because they were both like, okay, we both have no fucks left together. Our families are imploding. We're becoming new women after a certain amount of time being with certain kinds of partners. Fuck this.

Fuck you. Fuck everybody. And that's why I love when Doreet said, I'm fed up. Because she was done. She wasn't just done with college. She was done with all of it. But yeah, I mean, I like a Dorete on fire. You're like a Doreet smoking a cigarette. In the Kenyan. In the Canyon. Down the canyon. Absolutely. What did we think of the men that Bose pulled from

her contact list. I actually thought they were pretty good. I thought they were solid choices. Sometimes they set these guys up and they make them look stupid, which is always embarrassing, right? Like some of the guys they used to have on OG Roney to like date Ramona. And I was like, oh no, don't do this. He shady, sneaky, sneaky people. But they were all pretty, even the comedian. Not saying even like, you know. Venture. But like comedians is a general rule. I mean, I guess I work in comedy. So I don't ever want to talk to comedians. I'm like, put them far away for me. But just because you don't want to be, like, doctors don't want to date doctor,

whatever. But he was great. He was, like, kind of handsome and he had, like, a cool laid-back thing going, and he was, like, funny without trying too hard. He's like, I think we're talking about sex. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was like, I was kind of intimate. I thought they were all pretty strong. Yeah. I agree. I felt like Sebastian was definitely,

like, of course, the Australian, tall. Mm-hmm. The winner. Question for the ladies. Kyle is looking for a guy who looks like he loves sex. What's that look like? Vericio? Yeah.

Literally. I feel like her ex-husband. I mean, I thought that was kind of a problematic, not problematic, but I think it could lead you to some danger. I want to date a guy who looks like he wants sex. Okay. Fucking open your door and go outside.

But she did just leave Mo's Bachelor Pat last episode. Yeah, she was like, I'm feeling inspired. Yeah. And that house looks like someone like sex. Yeah. I don't know. Anything with a view, really. Anything, no art on the wall.

Just like maybe a headboard. Just like L.A. Skyline. Yeah. I don't know his name. He was the lawyer and he was the one who was like all women like cold, all white women like cold play. He was like that guy. Wait, I'm sorry. That guy was horrible.

Horrible. He was horrible. He already blocked him out of my mind. He was horrible. Yeah, he was pretty bad. My favorite was my queen Rachel's O, giving advice saying like you just want to look like you just threw yourself together. Like you didn't like take time to pull it off. and she's wearing the most amazing outfit.

Yeah, she's like, you don't want to look like it took three hours to get ready. I'm like, you all look like you took three hours. And then she's like, I'm going to wear my sunglasses. My fur. You know, I'm really digging Rachel Zoe. Yeah, I am too. I'm really, really, I was not sure how that was going to be a fit. But I'm, I could almost like say I would watch a show of just her.

Yeah. I would watch her just like move around the world and buy things at the grocery store. And I'm into her. Did she not watch the Rachel Zosho? I mean, I did back in the date, but she's changed. I got it. Yeah. I was assuming.

She's evolved. You know what I'm saying? Like, you never... In the nicest way, yeah. Yeah. In the nicest way, like, she's going to be different. She has to be... She's going through divorce.

She has kids, eti-e-e-a-a-a-a. And she looks... Sounds like she likes a fuck boy. Yeah, she does. That's exactly right. She should go to UM and University of Miami. She's also looking for a guy who looks like he likes to have sex. Yeah.

I think they all are. Right. I think at that point. Yeah. I know. I love how Erica was like, I'm going to be a good friend and give you his business card. Sutton. And I'm like, okay, but he didn't give Sutton his business card.

So when Sutton calls, he's going to be like, hey, Erica. Yeah, yeah. You know? It doesn't really work that way. It's not like a monopoly where you can get, you know, or like a board game where you can offer some of your own goods to the next person. I mean, mind you, since most men just want sex, apparently, I guess you'll be fine. But I think Erica is an introvert. So I believe that she can be awkward, but I don't believe she can't flirt.

I thought that was a little bit of an act. You did? I thought it felt a little bit of like. She knows what she's doing. Erica's, yeah, Erica's smooth. I believe that she might have been nervous, but I don't believe that she doesn't have game. I know, Erica has...

She knows how to work with her awkwardness. Yes, I think she could have easily made it a thing. I think maybe she just wasn't in the mood to, which is, hey, there are certain times where you're just not in the mood to play. And also, if she's, like, been fucking allegedly Jesse Solomon, then it's like, she comes into this party and it's like a bunch of old lawyers.

And she's like, you know... Been there. Also, watch what happens live. She did say that she did say that she's, been dating the man she's been seeing for the last six months. So she probably was still in like quiet times and like not ready to like announce that she was dating him. So she's probably like, there's nothing here for me. Did she give any insight? I think he was an old bodyguard. He was a bodyguard for somebody. But he's, his nickname is Shrek, but like he's actually a very

attractive man. Yeah, he's a big musselty man. Yeah. Exactly what her. To go from Tom Girardi to Shrek. I mean. She was like you could just call. I think his name is John or something. But it's like Andy was like, so you You can call him John. You don't need to refer to him. His street name, no. You bringing up Tom Gerardi, I just had like a flashback of him at dinner with Vanderpump. And like how I actually thought him and Vanderpump were kind of hot together.

Like Ken was like the cuck just watching them, right? And he was like, you're a formidable opponent, Vanderpump. She's like, you really think so, darling. And they were kind of like flirting with each other intellectually and Erica and, you know, Ken are like, well, we're just here. I don't know. I kind of hope that if like, you know, if we let that. Tom Gerardi out, give LVPA a crack at that.

He's 86, right? And then he has six more years or something? Age is just a number. And Vanderpump is immortal, darling. That is true. She's eternal. I feel like in 30 years Vanterpump will look better than she did today. So true. Yeah. She looks great on the new reboot. Yep. No, that lighting. The lighting is, whatever it is, she looks good. I was like, and I missed her on camera. Like, I missed her on TV. But there's something about Lisa Vanderpump where it's like you first see her on TV and then it's like the next time you see her, she somehow ages backwards. And I'm into that.

Yeah. And I'm not into aging backward in general. Like, I'm cool with people getting older. Like, I love it. But for her, for some reason. It's the accent. It's the tacky. She's an entity.

Yes. Yeah. There's something sort of ethereal about her. Yes. Yeah. But other impressions do we have? Do we do a Kyle? No.

I kind of did a little bit of a Kyle. But I love when she's sort of the lip smacking. Have you noticed that? And I kind of love that when she gets angry, she gets like an underbite. Like you don't get it, Dorea. Yeah. Have you noticed that?

Yeah. Yeah. Who did you just recently deconstruct at BravoCon? Katie Janella. Katie Janella was your new one. Katie Janella, because she sort of does a head nod and she squints the eyes and, well, I apologize. And it's just sort of like a very subtle thing here.

What was so amazing about that video is he's standing next to Katie. And while he's explaining Katie to her, she's doing it. She like cocks her head to the side. She squints her head to the side. Oh my God, I'm doing it right now. She's been a really great sport too. I think she got a raw deal. I mean, you know, I think what happened to Katie,

I'm going to be controversial here. Ooh, do it. Because I'm very PC on my page, but, you know, we're on the file files. We're allowed to fuck around and find out. I think Meredith is getting the same Katie Janella treatment, and it's backfiring on everyone else. Like, they thought they were going to win by making Katie look.

What I have learned about Housewives fans, or at least myself as a Housewife fan, is that the truth is really important until the punishment is worse than the crime. and then I don't give a fuck about the truth. Yep, yeah. So whether... Shannon Bador.

Very Shannon Bador. Yeah, well, what do you mean? The DUI and the DUI. Oh, yes, exactly. They over responds and everyone trying to like break her down. That's exactly right. We really immediately felt bad for Shannon Bador. Yeah, because you're shitting on her episode after episode after episode.

Like, it's brutal. Yeah, what she did is horrible. No one should be drinking and driving. Completely agree. But, I mean, after a certain point, someone's crying in front of you, how much are going to berate them? It's because, like, I think what makes Housewives in Bravo universe so fun to watch is you you have these imperfect characters. Yeah. And we we watch it for their

imperfections. And I think, you know, we all have. We all have our weaknesses. Flaws. We have our secrets. We have our tough moments. So yeah, like when we're, when we're really beaten down on someone, not to mention all of the wives, they've all been into some jobs. I mean, not that like they've all had DUIs. But it's like there's a lack of, when there's a lack of grace, race. Yeah. It's hard to watch. And when it's that consistent,

when the beat down is episode after episode. So what happened to Katie obviously made Katie look amazing, in my opinion. And it made the other girls look fucking horrible. I wrote yesterday on my Instagram that I'm with Meredith on this. And people were like controversial. I'm like, what is their, what's controversial about this? Meredith obviously popped off on the plane. She got pissed.

Obviously she did. They were all probably fucking hung over from their trip. They were flying early as fuck. and she wasn't having it. Yep. But there are so many plot holes in everyone's story. And Heather coming back with the desire to take her down so clear, it's like, yes, Meredith does not like Britney. That's clear.

No one really likes Britney. And I'm not saying that I don't dislike her. I'm just saying on the cast, they all take turns beating the shit out of her. They just decided, this seems like a good time to take big there down. Isn't it really frustrating though when you have a friend or a peer that just will never give an inch an accountability or just owning anything. That can be

you're talking about Meredith. Yeah. It's just like you're not going to any, you're just not, you're just going to pretend it didn't happen. You haven't had Meredith on the show. Not post-airplane. Not this not post-airplane. I'm a Meredith enthusiast. So you're, it's also. My mom is a

Sagittarius. I understand that. I'm a sag. I'm a sadge-hag. So I get it. I'm like, yeah, I'm never, you're never going to, but I get what you're saying. What did you think of Brittany trademarking high body count of hair? I thought kind of whack, but like not the, not like to create like a

I mean, I guess it's a funny petty storyline which I love a petty storyline. But I who cares? Let the girl have a coin. I mean, you know, I don't know. Like, do you feel like Angie should have trademarked it or is Brittany like you called it? Oh, like you deserve. Yeah, yeah. I think if Britney was the one who was insulted with this trademark, fuck it, I'm going to take

it and spin it. Look, I mean, a bunch of people have done things like that. Remember when Renna got called the biggest bully in Hollywood? She was sort of like reclaiming. I was like, I'm a bully. And Tamara was like, I'm a cyber hacker. Like, I think it's great. So, like, you're going to call me shit.

I'm going to step on top of it and rise to the top with it. So much you think. Brittany paid probably around $4,000 to $5,000 to trademark that. That's kind of cheap. I wonder how much. Yeah. What is you going to do with it? It's an insult.

So, like, it's going to say, do you want high body count hair? Try this new hairspray called the Brittany. Like, what does one do with it? Put it on a sweatshirt. Get a snowflake. At this point, I mean, just get it. of the damn girl of snow. Like they're featuring her as much.

And they're also really dogging on her. It's hard to watch them collectively. She's full cast. She's full cast. I mean, like. But I guess it just makes sense financially. I think she's having a really strong season. She's definitely having a stronger season than that season.

The one thing you can say about Britney though, any season is that like she will not let you forget that she is there. So I like, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's also just not as dumb as the women portray her to be. Yeah, it's all an act. She's smart. She's definitely like a theater kid. And she leans.

into that. She has an angle that she's playing. I don't think she's dumb at all. I think that she's... Ditzrella was my favorite. Who called her that again? Angie. Angie? She's running these down. What a journey Angie has had. I love her. She was really nice in person too. She was really, really great. I met her in Bravo Conner. She was lovely.

Yeah, she's great. I mean, I like the whole cast. I really do. I'm just a big Salt Lake City fan. I have to say this season is not my favorite. I'm obsessed with like, rewatching last season, I was Like last season was pretty perfect. Interesting. It was great. I like this season. Do you watch all franchises or are you kind of?

Not all of them. I watch Beverly Hills, Atlanta, Salt Lake City. Miami of course. Miami, of course. Do you guys cover Miami? Yes, we do. Oh, my God. How iconic it was last.

I thought last season was so good. It was amazing. Do you miss my pussy? What was it? Do you know that when she said that? I cried on my couch alone. Do you miss this French up or the sweet pussy? Yeah.

Cried. I had to pause. Rewind and Adriana has a little bit of the Ramona eyes and the she's like, do you miss this French about this sweet pussy? This sweet sweet pussy. I cried. And then them cutting to Alexia going like this. Because Alexia is such a flirt that even just the idea of other people having sex is like exciting

to her when she was back. She was like, I can't wait to go back. I've never wanted to go back so badly at a reunion. No for real. I have a lot of questions. And if you let Alexia host the second part of the reunion, she'd be like, okay, so who kissed who? Did you kiss her neck or what happened?

I just want to know because you know what Did you have to move her hair back? I think it's super hot just so you know I mean Alexi would have had a fucking ball like dissecting it and Marisol's just like

I can't I can't I can't What is the gift She got the Haitian A coffee maker? A coffee maker? Did you see the panel?

Oh my God it was embarrassing It was iconic but embarrassing She was like Haitian mortition It was really hard to watch Justin It was like we were in the audience And we really thought like I mean however chaotic it looks on the live stream was worse in person.

Really? It was a thousand times worse. She tried to get the crowd to rally and chant Haitian Mortish, and it's silent. And the weirdest part is that I'm actually like, obviously I'm a stand for the bros. I ride for the bros. I can't. I'm boy. I need a cock.

I mean, I'm there. It's my world. I'm in it. But I like Adrienne on the show. I really do. I like her. I find her very funny. I find her very entertaining.

I find her very charming. Here's my rule for a good housewife. Are you ready? And I don't think anyone's had this rubric. But I think we should patent it like or trade markets. Like high body counter Here's two things I need From a housewife

I need at least one of them Does it need to be both I need to watch I need to be entertained By your personal story Like your scenes at home Or with your friends or family Or I need to enjoy you fighting

Yeah One of those two A great housewife has both Yeah Yeah Like I like watching Marisol at home With Steve And I like watching Marisol

You know Fucking get into it I like Alexia scenes with Frankie And I like Alexia Telling no because you're I fucking Chihuahua I'm a fucking raw white Like I'm into that

Adriana I kind of I haven't seen any personal life scenes in a while. So I'd have to go back to that, right? But watching her in confrontation is entertaining. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's good. It's just good stuff. How did you think Stephanie Shoujee did for her first season? I thought the first half was rough because it was just so narrow. But then she really came into her own and I really, I kind of say, I fuck with Stephanie Shoggi. I fuck with Stephanie Shoggi. And then I met her a BravoCon and she couldn't have been fucking

nicer. So I was like, okay, now we ride at dawn for Stephanie Shoggi. But she, by the end of the second season, I really was like, she slept into her own and I really thought she had an amazing season. And she's rich and she's very... She's real rich. She's real rich and she's very specific to herself, which I really like in the housewife. I like housewives that are all like ones more different than the next. I love a personal style too. Like where it's like we're in Erica, like where it's just like you can see the back of her and you know it's Erica.

Totally. I agree with that. Yeah. She has a great silhouette and like we are totally aware that that's her thing. Yes. The bright colors, the suits. And she's changing. I don't know if you notice.

some of her more recent post, Stephanie Shoggi's wearing a little bit more she's going a little edgier, which I like. Because I'm not into like, like Chanel tweet. That's just not my speed. But I like that she's kind of like wearing more extensions now. She's playing. She took some notes from the audience, calling her,

you know, elder. And she's playing with it. Yeah. You don't do Potomac? I mean, I saw it when it came out. I have to get back into it. It's good. I know. I heard it's really good. And I, I'm, I mean, I love the Karen Hugar. I love her. I feel like you could do a good Stacey. I met her at Bravo Conna.

I like that she's, I mean, I have to give her a little bit more attention, but she sort of has a thing where she like looks at you very intently and sort of over enunciate certain words, I think. From what I remember. Yeah.

Am I doing a sort of the right thing for her, I think? Yes. Yeah. And I really haven't even seen any of her episodes, but just from the little clips on QVC. Her cute, talk about length. Yeah, length. Yeah.

She's really, and very, stunning in person. Yeah. Yes. Slegs. Slags. Stunning out of TV too. And yeah, really what a, and I love, I love a housewife that tickles Andy. And Andy's tickled by her, which is so fun because, I mean, sometimes you find that Andy has, like, such a large awareness of what works. So when you hear, like, one of the things that does work, you're like, oh, that's fun. Okay. Now we know. So, yeah, I think he's tickled by her, which is really fun to kind of know. Are you excited for Vicky to come back to OC. Beyond. I know. I'm a huge Vicky fan. Like, I want to watch her personal scenes and I want to watch her in confrontation. Yes. Yes. And I think she's got such a full life. And the best housewife is a

housewife that has a life outside of the show. And that's Vicki Gonvelson. She certainly does. She's got that insurance. Insurance. Insurance. Yes. Did you see that video recently of her makeup artist? Is her sort of berating her makeup artist because she doesn't have life insurance? The makeup artist is doing her makeup. And she's like, what do you mean? You don't have a life insurance? You've got five. Get done it.

And she's like letting her have it. I'm like, oh my God, it's so good. But I love Vicky. Yeah, I'm a Vicky fan. And I'm a Tamara stand too. Are we Tamara stands in this house? We like Tamara. We like Tamara.

We struggle with Tamara because we've had her on. I've been at social events with her. I think she's such a great human that when I watch her on the show, I'm like, it is. It's not you. Yeah, there's a big disparity for sure because in person... She's awesome. Yes, she is.

And I have to say out of all of the housewives I've actually met and hung out with, she's one of the ones that actually asks you questions about yourself. She's like, so where's your family from? Where do they live? Tamara is like very in person down to earth and very easy to talk to and not pretentious or standoff at all. And not self-absorbed. Like I'm telling you, one of the housewives that actually like, wait, so do you have nieces or nephews? I feel like you're posted about that.

Yeah. Like she was incredibly connected. So I don't know what that. I mean, yeah, I agree that watching her on the show is kind of shocking than when you, you know, but some of these women will drive you to drink. So I get it. That's true. But nothing ever beats Bass Lake.

Is it about the guy that she was dating and sitting on the lap and all that stuff? I'm pretty sure that was that same thing. Okay. Okay. But yeah, huge Tamara Stan. And I'm excited for the season. Do he like Amanda? I don't dislike her.

I think she's a little young for my. taste. I like older housewives. I want them to be in their mid-40s. I do. She looks like she's in her mid-30s and she kind of acts like it too. I think she's 40 but I would like her to be 45 at least. I'd like her to age five years. Yeah, I do. I like older housewives. I really, really do. I think that's the greatest thing about housewives. She doesn't seem intimidated by her peers. Which I love. And she seems like, she seems she just has a messy look. Yeah. And I don't mean like her look. No, you messy meaning like she'll, she'll, she'll, gate and she'll get in the mess. She's unafraid. She'll get in there. She really will get in there.

Which Beverly Hills desperately needs because that show runs the risk of Pantygate for nine seasons. Yes. Yeah. All the time. So that's why Rina, and I said this to Rina and when Rina mentioned me on her podcast, she called me Luigi. She was like, this great comedian named Luigi. And Luigi, I'm like, but I love Rina. So we're Rita fans here. But I told Rina, I was like, you looked crazy on your show because no one does shit. If you threw Rina on Salt Lake City, Rina would look like a fucking fly on the wall. Run with the pop. Renna, Angie and Lisa Barlow, fighting. Come on. You're going to tell me

Renna's going to look crazy. It is sometimes hard to watch Salt Lake City and Beverly Hills at the same time. You can't. You're like, oh, God, wow. The Salt Lake City,

I mean, you get constant fights and makeup and fights and fights and fights and this. And then Beverly Hills is like the one little tiny, it took us two and a half seasons

to kind of mention Kyle's relationship with Morgan. Meanwhile, Bronwyn and Whitney is like, I would love to. go down on a girl or anyone. She didn't say that.

She's basically saying that. I was like, and you know what? Right, right, right. So I think that would be great. If we could sort of have some fun with some new people, right? I'm totally open to that. And meanwhile, it's taking Kyle, yeah, 10 seasons to go, there's another. There's a person.

And they have a heart. And I feel for her. I'm not mocking her. I really feel for it because that's fucking hard. To be a straight woman most of your life. And then three kids and a divorce date or go, maybe you'd like something else. I honored that. And then to have all these women like pressure.

you to talk about it constantly. Okay, but then she did do a music video with Morgan where they made out of the music video. That's the one thing that I'm like. She's acting. But like she knew. You can't play smart. You can't play smart and stupid at the same time.

You can't play naive and and coquettish. And they get matching tattoos like on the show. I think that's my thing with it. That's exactly it. That's what I think people had a hard time with. You're either completely reserved and it's totally new terrain for you and you don't want to talk about it. Or, and then you don't do a music video where you're like half almost like kissing somewhat.

Do you feel in any way about Brawin about that? What do you mean? Well, it's just that like, I think that's generally a frustration. I think most Bravo fans have in general. It's just like decide. Like, I think when we talk about these people on TV, we want to be respectful in terms of like, what did you put on TV, what you put on your social? Like that's, I guess that's what's fair game for us to like talk, have some fun.

And then things that they, you know, want to. keep private they're personalized you know it's like we'd rather not fuck with that you know but like brawain's kind of like i don't my family's off limits my marriage is off limits i don't want to talk about that todd doesn't like it but then she'll be like bringing up todd i'm not wearing my ring yeah like it's like are we is it fair game is it not fair game do you not want your the your peers to talk about it like do you want to us to stay away a femur relationship it's like it's like it's it's it's just really hard to really have a take on it because you feel kind of icky, prying and probing on a topic.

They simultaneously act uncomfortable talking about and act as if people are violating their privacy. But then every once in a while, bring it up. And you're like, what the fuck? Yeah, I get that perspective. I think the harder, the thing, the more tricky thing with Salt Lake City is that when you give any of those women an inch, they take a mile. And then they act like the authority on it. Whereas on Beverly Hills, I don't think anyone sort of, Bose is the only one, Bose and Garcell sort of, Bowes and Garcell sort of, of instigated more conversations.

But on Salt Lake City, you give anyone anything and they're going to jump to making this now everyone's storyline and now we're making it a whole group conversation. And we're going to take it and make it fact. Like I forgot what the exact wording was, but someone misspoke on what Bronwyn said about Todd. But they said it as if it were fact. I wish I could remember at this moment. But they were like, yeah, but you said you told him to move out. Yeah.

And she's like, no, I told him to leave for a couple days. So that's the problem. It's not just like we're talking about some things that you've made. mention, they take it and now it's like... Twisted. They twist it and it becomes gospel. And then if you say, I didn't say that, they're like, yeah, but you mentioned it. Okay, but I didn't say that.

And if you're going to act like you didn't mention it? Exactly. And saying that you ask someone to stay to not stay at the house for a night or two is different than we're not together. Like, so Salt Lake City women get really deliciously messy. But if you're in it, it's hard because we're not on the same page because you're not saying the same things that I just said. Well, the ring thing was confusing because she was like, I'm not,

wearing my ring, I took it off. And then she's like, well, I don't always wear my ring. I wear different jewelry all the time. Not wearing your ring is kind of a big deal. Short of you being like, I forgot to put it on today. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I haven't.

But saying I deliberately took this off because we're on bad terms is like a, it's a strong move. Yeah. It's a statement. But again, with those kinds of women, you want to tell them shit, which is the hard part. And you know what I think to answer your question of like is what's different with Bronwyn and whatever? is that I think that Bronwyn is a lot more naturally forthcoming with these women and I think wants to create these relationships. But then you get bitten by it. So I think she has these moments of vulnerability where she's like, I want to share with you guys.

She's feeling it out. Yeah. Like I want to connect to you guys in these moments because when the Salt Lake City Ladies have fun, they have a lot of fun. And when they're good, they're really good. So I think you end up falling the risk of like, I want to connect with you and I want to share with you. But then they flip the switch and they almost like spin it and use it as like accuse it to. You know, like, and they almost weaponized what you told them. So I think that's why if I were brought, I'd be like, fuck you guys.

I'm not telling you shit anymore. Because in those sweet moments where we do connect, it's great. And then it's like now I'm on trial for it. That's how I would feel if I were brought in I feel like. And like a weird observation I just kind of came up with in my head though, but I'm just like, it kind of feels like the women of Beverly Hills, like just don't really have the, the structuring of friendship like Salt Lake City women do. Yeah.

Like I feel like those are like real people that hang out no matter. what where I'm just like Beverly Hills it's just kind of like even their get-togethers you know what I mean like they all go to events in Salt Lake City and everybody's showing up everybody knows everybody where I'm like Beverly Hills but I guess we're gonna do a get-together at Bozes okay I guess we're going to Jennifer Tilly yeah yeah yeah that's a good point I didn't even think about that yeah yeah like you're not really having events you're not really doing that's why the speed dating was really good idea because there was like that's the there was a thing for them to do right but then we had Jennifer Tilly and now we're gonna do some naked men drawings like you know what I mean like it's like there's like there's a really good idea great point. There's always like a gimmick as to like how these women hang out together. I will say naked, the naked men aren't and the speed dating. Those kind of those are good ideas. No, great ideas. But I think it's true. Like how much of their actual lives are they outside of the show? Are they, would they have to run into each other or bump into each other? These are great ideas for like a YouTube series. Like watch the housewives paint men. Watch the housewives speed day. Like it's giving like YouTube series versus like these are women that hang out. So that's why to your question about Amanda, I'm, she's not really giving me anything right now, but I know that there's drama that's going to surround her, and I'm excited about that because, like,

these women just kind of refuse to get messy. And, like, when they do, we've seen it. Like, we've seen Kyle and Doree. Like, I don't need to see that again. Yeah. I mean, Kyle, 15 years in the biz. Like, I would be tired of it, too. I'd be like, bitch, what the fuck do you want to know about me?

Like, what do you not already know? The good thing is is that Kyle's life continues to evolve in ways that surprise her. Like, so, like, the Mo being a ho, that's shocking to her. So, like, she's constantly showing up. Kyle's not exactly like an Alexia because Alexia has a lot more stuff going on. But Alexia's life, you can't write that shit.

Like, the drama that happens to Alexia between the dad of the kids and then Herman and then Todd. Yeah. So Kyle in her own more passive way does continuously, like, there's always new stuff to talk about and there's always new versions of her that are tense. So, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think we're always going to see a new version of Kyle

being upset or crying because it's always with different tension or different stakes. And in different departments of her life. Like, it may seem the same when she's crying, but when she's crying about Kathy, it must feel different to her than when she's crying about the kids. Yeah. That's true. Like, the Kyle Kathy stuff is so hard to watch. Yeah.

I think that's probably the hardest thing for me to, like, I empathize with her the most on that. And Kim. And Kim. Because that's siblings, as an acting teacher, I talk about all the time, like how our family dynamics have informed so much of our lives and our needs and what needs we didn't get met as children and yet. and how we try to find them now as adults.

But sibling relationships are so interesting. Because most of the time you grow up in the same house with them, oftentimes same mom and same dad, but you have completely different experiences, depending on if you're the first child or the middle child or the third child, depends on if your parents were really in love when you were the first child and then they stopped being in love with the second child. So, like, I'm always fascinated by siblings. And the Kathy Kim and Kyle just always gets me because of how they all had such different levels of responsibility, how big Kathy was different, I'm sure, with each of them.

Kathy's personal responsibility to taking care of her mom, it feels like, when they talk about her, there's like this something changes in the room when Kathy is like, but you know how mom was. And it's just amazing to watch it shift. And the moments where Kathy sort of turns into her, like when Renna was sort of popping off with the Kathy thing and Kathy looked at Kyle said, Kyle, Kyle, where we all knew it. what the fuck that meant. I was scared for her. When the guests leave the dinner party,

I'm gonna let you fucking have it. That's what it looked like. You know when you're with your family and they're like, get ready because when the Jacobsons leave. Yeah. You better go to bed. You better go to bed.

So the Kyle thing, I mean, there's always new stuff unfolding for her, but the Kathy and Kim. I miss Kim. I do. I miss Kim back. No, but I only want her back if she's like feeling good. She seems maybe not ready.

Yeah. Like I want her to come back when she's feeling good, you know? Yeah. Miguel, this has been so much fun. We're done? You know somebody still want to say? You got more?

Let me see if I could spit out some hot takes. I don't think it's fair what they're doing to Meredith. They need to stop that. They need to stop playing that game. I heard there's rumors online that she's not coming back or they're demoting her. They need to stop playing with me. Yeah. They're not having them.

They better not demote her. They're saying that like the cast, that's what's being rumored is that the cast of women have turned their back and don't want to film with Meredith. That's lame. That's lame as hell and they need to stop playing that game. I don't like that. That's bullshit. I don't like it when they do that.

You can't have a universe where you promote this type of drama and you push these women to the edge. Then you get what you want. I mean, I understand the whole plane ride and maybe they filmed it or didn't film it. And then allow you rest of your cast to kind of bully people off the show because I don't know. Well, that's the problem is that the show is a show about friendships, aka alliances. And when you kind of four or five people say they don't want to film with someone, I'm guessing it leaves production in a place where it's like, well, what do we do now then? Or can we get one?

Yeah. Can we get one of you to film with them? However, production, I don't think cares enough about what the housewives think. If they know this is TV gold and you better fucking figure it out. Right. Because there were times where no one wanted to film with Bethany. But they were like, Bethany is so great on television. Yeah, so, like, Luanne.

Unless production is frustrated with Meredith for refusing talking about things because she does. Like Meredith will, she will draw a line in the sand and not negotiate. What did you think about her answering Brooks call? It was insane. No, she wanted to talk to her son. I kind of, I have to say, I thought it was delicious. I thought it just shook those. The way she sells it is how it's so important.

It is if, like, you can't, you know, like the only time to hear. But the package. I appreciate you, mom, is on Mother's Day. And if you don't get it on Mother's Day, it somehow is just, you have to wait a whole other year. No, but the packaging later was very different. than what happened in the moment. In the moment, it was perfect timing. And she was like, fuck this, fuck you.

Hi, honey. Yeah, fuck these bitches. I'm good. How are you? So where are you going today? Yeah. Oh, good. Oh, my God.

I love LaVan you at Sacks. Well, listen, if you go there, like, I just, I was into it. And I don't think she meant to do it that way. But I think she kind of just like, I don't need this shit. And also, I think Meredith is one of the few housewives that would be fine without the housewives. Like, I don't think she needs the show. At all.

I think she enjoys it. I think for her it's like a hobby, like how rich women have hobbies. Like how some women play pickleball. I believe this is pickleball. Yes, I think Meredith on the Housewife is a pickleball. She's like,

it's fun. I get to do a couple of things. Here's why I don't think that Meredith rumors are going to go anywhere. Because, like, I think they really believe in next gen. Brooks is the star of next gen.

And he's fabulous. He plays a big role in this, the Mark's family. They're really going to like, how does that work? They're going to fire Meredith and then expect her to like

be a big part of next, I don't know. I think they should keep her and stop playing games and I think the other women need to start letting it go and they also need to bring in I don't know what this means you want Monica back?

I want Monica back. I liked her on the show I wouldn't mind if she came back. I definitely don't want Jen Shaw back. They got to stop playing that game. I didn't even like her first round. I never liked Jen Shaw. I never found her funny.

I never found her entertaining. I always thought she was a cartoon character and I would watch cartoons if I wanted to watch a cartoon character. But you know what I think Salt Lake needs is two new women. They can't do the thing of bringing one new girl on. Like they didn't really bully Bronwyn her last season, but they had her, they hazed her a little bit. They attacked Brittany.

This season, the next season, they need two more. Like, I think we're in the market for a mini shakeup. Many, many, many. I mean, we did get Britney and Bronwyn at the same time. It just felt still like we had this core of OGs that were like, you know, like, I don't fuck with you. And it's too hard. Like it's too hard when I think we need a couple more people so that it doesn't feel so clickish.

When a show starts getting clickish, it gets hard and then they have to eat their own, which is what's happening. They're eating their own by eating Meredith. When I saw that Monica had said somewhere that she had typed out a text to Meredith after watching this last episode, she didn't send it. But she was like essentially just saying like it's really hard watching everybody gang up on you. I've been there essentially. So I kind of feel like my like two cents would be like I would want Monica. back with Monica Meredith and then bring in Angie H. When they did the internal...

When they did the internal investigation, Meredith was one of the people that was like, I didn't feel physically threatened by Monica. So, I mean... And I was like, and Monica feels for her right now. So I'm like sometimes... Monica Meredith Alliance would be so huge for me personally. That's what I'm saying. It's like the camera, Katie Janella.

Right. I'm excited for the next season. I think Bronwyn and Meredith having a friendship would be great. Yeah. I think Bronwyn and Meredith could actually really... And I don't know if that's happened on the show and they haven't used it. You know, there's so many hours of footage. But I don't know.

I think Bronwyn and Meredith really could be the trick. They're both, like, kind of quirky, but in different ways. And they're both really smart. Like, Meredith and Bronwyn are smart as hell. They're really with it. And look, some people are saying that Meredith is a gaslighter. I don't see it that way, but I'm also a Meredith enthusiast and enabler. So I'm the wrong person.

I have, I right. But you know what? But Meredith does it. If she does it, she does it in a way where, I don't know. It works. It just, I just, I just. I adore her. She tells it with such confidence and such conviction.

I think it, she doesn't. in a way that most people can't do what she does. And I think it's, for those purposes, it's mesmerizing. She's smooth, like a Dominican man in Miami. I don't know any, but. Miguel, it's been a pleasure, man. Thank you for having me. Where can the people find you?

Instagram, the Miguel Luciano, TikTok, Miguel underscore Luciano. Well, thank you to Miguel for joining us. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays, whatever you are celebrating this season. We hope you have a great time with the people you love. We'll be back next week. We'll see you on Monday. Monday, we got a really exciting, juicy episode. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. Bye-bye.