The Viall Files - E1074 - TWINS, Summer House Premiere w Bailey, The Valley Persian Style w Amir and Natasha & Single Bronwyn

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap!  It's TWIN TIMEEEE, for reasons you'll find out soon! Also, we welcome new Summer House cast member Bailey Taylor to get into the season premiere. Plus, Amir and Natasha stop by to discuss the most recent episode of the Valley Persian Style. Meanwhile, Bronwyn is single, Kyle and Amanda don't want to be in the car together, and the household is growing!!! You won't want to miss it.  "Loooove making out with Carl!"  The Viall Files is going LIVE with the new cast of Temptation Island on May 6th! Tickets are on sale NOW! For more information, please visit netflixisajokefest.com.  Want ad free episodes and incredible bonus content?  Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  HEY! YOU! DO YOU NEED DATING AND RELATIONSHIP ADVICE?  Email [e-mail] and be a part of future Ask Nick episodes! Subscribe to The ENVY Media Newsletter Today: https://www.viallfiles.com/newsletter  Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff now!  Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774298881  Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NWA8LBk15l2u5tNQqDcOO?si=3b868996930347e8  Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod Listen To Disrespectfully with Katie Maloney and Dayna Kathan now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick's Book and/or learn more about the show, go to: https://viallfiles.com THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Mint Mobile - Ready to stop paying more than you have to? New customers can make the switch today and for a limited time, get unlimited premium wireless for just $15 per month. Switch now at https://mintmobile.com/viall  Fora - Become a Fora Advisor today at https://foratravel.com/viall  Betterhelp - BetterHelp makes it easy to get matched online with a qualified therapist. Sign up and get 10% off at https://betterhelp.com/viall  IM8 - Feel your best self, every day—with IM8. Go to https://IM8HEALTH.com/viall  and use code VIALL for a Free Welcome Kit, five free travel sachets plus ten percent off your order. Perelel - Exclusive for our listeners, new customers can enjoy 20% off their first order with code: VIALLFILES. Visit https://perelelhealth.com  To advertise on this podcast please email: [e-mail] or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/theviallfiles   Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 00:13 - Our Announcement 18:11 - Household Headlines 29:40 - Bailey Joins 43:48 - Summer House 1:04:35 - Amir & Natasha Join 1:18:11 - The Valley: Persian Style 1:23:56 - Outro Episode Socials:  @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @baileyttaylor @natashakashanian @whatamiracle @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips @leahgsilberstein @the_mare_bare

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another wacky and wild episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I am your host, Nick, joined by my very pregnant wife. Let's go. Yay. Twins. It's twins. Can you guys believe it?

No. That's awesome. Neither can I. Neither can I. Shocking. What were you guys feeling when you found out that it was twins? Did you think it was going to be twins? Oh my God, no.

We're not. Well, funny story. Funny story. Funny story. Funny story. May you tell it. Nick's sister seven, six years ago? Oh, big win for the mediums.

Big win for the psychics out there. When Nick and I first started dating, okay? He was like, I'm never getting married. Like, I don't even want to date you. And he's like, sorry. You were harsh, my guy. No, no, no. He's like, my sister.

How funny is this? Like, my sister saw this. and she said the brother closest to you is going to have twins. Brother closest to his sister Maria is Nick. Both in age and in relationship. Wow. There was no wiggle room. There was no one else.

It could be. Yeah. Okay. And so this whole time since like I'm like that, you know, it's always in the back of my head of like, oh, that was so crazy. You know, I'm not really like a typical psychic believer, but still sitting back there, you know, still at the, still in the noggin. And so when I got pregnant with River, it crossed my mind. And now, of course, I go to this ultrasound by myself. Why were you by yourself? Like, I didn't want to

come. Where were you? Where were you? He was with our daughter. By myself. In studio. It's because it was so unfortunate that, of course, this is the one that, like, we don't, you know, Rivers down for a nap. I think we had a flight to catch later that day. So we were like, we really need her to map right now. Nick's home with her while she's napping, you know, can't like leave her and just like watch the monitor, you know, so I was like, it's right up the road. I'll just go and FaceTime you while I'm there, whatever. And then of course, as soon as I enter the room, it's like no videoing, no recording, no phones allowed, leave your phone in your purse turned off airplane mode. And I'm like, absolutely no exceptions. Yeah. Because like you don't want to like put out your

own hip up, but like you don't want to violate yourself kind of know why they do that. Looking out for the... Like I think it's like, is it the equipment and stuff maybe perhaps? Who knows? It's like right under like the TV screen that you look at of your... Yeah, I don't really know why they do it. But it had been a long time since I had gotten good news with an ultrasound, right? So I was very, very nervous.

And I was already in tears by time I'm like under the thing. And she goes in and she's like, okay, there is one gestational sack with a baby. And I'm like crying. You know, I'm like, oh, my God, I see the little heartbeat going. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. And then she's like, and there is another. So twins.

And then I just was like, no, I wish my husband was here. Like, I was just so heartbroken that he wasn't in that moment with me, you know. And so then, of course, I'm like trying to figure out he's texting me. I'm like, what's going on? You know, I'm a little nerve. Were you like, how am I going to tell him? Literally. I'm like, I can't do this over text.

So she doesn't reply to my text. And I'm like, This can't be good. Then I am like, I'm just, I'm five minutes from the house. I'm just going to tell him when I get home. Oh, no. He, of course, hears me pull into the garage. He comes out.

I'm crying. Crying. Of course. Oh, no. So. Makes it a bad headspace. I'm like, no. I mean, Natalie. I guess.

Sorry. That was her first guess. That was her first try. She didn't even have to brainstorm that one. I was just, you know, not in that headspace. I was a little caught off guard. Silence. And then tears.

To be fair, you did just find out you had twins. Thank you. Thank you. It was very shocked. So I have to wait for the email. I'm like, I don't want to go home and not be able to. to show him the twins on the ultrasound so I'm like waiting for the email. So you're taking a little extra time, taking a little extra time, crying in her car.

Crying in the car. And Nick is standing in the garage watching Natalie just sitting there in the car. The doors are locked. He's like, open it. Let me. Let me. Not yet. And so then I just, all I do is show him the ultrasound.

And he's like, what is this? I don't know. What's happening? What is this? Twins. Any ultrasound, they print out. She's crying. Here's the old.

He's like, but is this good? And then he's like, twins? Because of course it says like baby A, baby B. Oh, so you noticed. I did. He noticed.

It took me about 10 seconds. He read. I read. Look at you. Wow. Proud of you. Win and doubt, read. I mean, I was thrilled.

Like, what went through your mind? Like, when you put it all together. Like, honestly, I was just happy for a clean bill of health, I suppose. Yeah. Well, then I'm like just making sure Nally is okay. Right. You know, there was, I imagine for the, the ladies out there.

That's a lot of information to process. I'm more just like, yay, kids. We get to catch up. But I was kind of, I was curious how she felt about it. Did he do a good job? How did you feel about it? I mean, of course, I'm just like pure shock. Just I think honestly, I'm still in shock.

The people that I've talked, like my sister has twins, Nick's sister has twins. I know some people, some friends that have twins. And I've kind of like reached out to them being like, I am, A, so scared. Like, you know, I crushed one newborn phase. You know, like one baby, two arms, I can do that. But like, two crying babies plus toddler.

I'm like, I'm so scared. And everyone was like, I didn't fully grasp twins until like a year after they were born. Like, it just is a process. It's a journey. But, I mean, obviously we're just like overall so excited. 3003 like that. You guys are the new daddy and Nia. Layas also has twin siblings.

I do have twin siblings. They're best friends. It's really, it's such a beautiful thing to, as the singleton, to watch your two siblings. You're the river? Yeah, I'm the river. At first? Yeah. Almost the exact same age difference, too.

Really? Two years. Yeah. I mean, it's awesome. We're all super close because we're all really close in age also. And I also do want to say like four. all of the families out there who have struggled through miscarriages and are waiting on their rainbow baby. I know this is like you don't want to listen to this. This is like hard to hear that,

you know, I remember seeing that. I'm getting on Instagram and seeing everyone doing their pregnancy announcements and it was just like, why not me? Why is this, you know, it's hard to, you know, you're happy for other people, but you're also like, I just, I want that for myself so bad. And so for anyone who's listening who's waiting on your rainbow baby, just don't give up hope. It's there. They're coming. I just don't want you to be discouraged or lose hope because I was there. I was in that tunnel and it was dark and you find a way out. And I just, yeah, it's, it was such a process for us. You know, we luckily had a doctor who was like, I want you to see a fertility specialist. Three miscarriages at your age is not normal, especially having a healthy baby at home. And so we went. to Dr. Carolyn Alexander here in Beverly Hills. If anyone is looking for one, she is truly amazing. And we ran a ton of tests. You know, we did everything that she could think of and everything came back very normal. Nick has, is exceeding expectations over there. So it definitely

wasn't him. And, you know, I was a first. I thought you were ready to take it, though. Yeah, Nick got an A-plus. And it was kind of to a point where it was like, I just want something. Like, let's just find out what it is and everything just kept coming back normal. And then she decided to run a test that I think they stopped testing for and found out that I have two blood disorders, gene mutations. One is called P-A-I-1. The other one is a tag is called T-E-G. And I, I, um, and I, had to go to a hematologist to run more tests about this. And they basically, my blood attacks the fetus. And so we, that's why we always refer to River as like our miracle baby, because it's like, how did that not happen to her? You know, it's like if this is something that's in my blood that my body does, like, it's crazy that she just had, we had no problems with her. So our plan of action has been, I take shots of blood thinners in my stomach. And every single day.

Are you still doing that now? I still do it. I will do it my entire pregnancy. Wow. I also take an aspirin every day. So the aspirin helps with the tag. The blood thinners help with the PIA one. So yeah, it's been quite the journey.

And I think Nick and I, you know, with River, I feel like we took it all for granted. Like in this one, it's kind of like every, you know, every cramp I feel or every, you know, it's always like there are definitely some scary nights yeah there's been some scary nights yeah but yeah very present and just very grateful uh for every piece of good news that we get like leaning on the scientific side of everything has made the losses feel a little bit easier this is my ask is how has it been processing the difference between pregnancies and especially having the to do these

injections and whatnot but i'm like obviously very much worth it totally worth it i think the shots early on before I was showing, you know, before I felt them kick or flutter or anything. It's like a still is, you know, a daily reminder of like everything that we've lost. But I think we see miscarriages and everyone sees this differently. Everyone processes this differently. But I've always seen it as like the baby wasn't ready to come. And so we got two of our three. So I think that makes it easier to process and kind of move through this pregnancy with a little bit more joy and hope.

Well, listen, I think it's just, you know, kind of like I said on Tuesday's episode, you just never know what life brings you. And we wouldn't be in this position that we are today, you know, if some of these tragedies that we experience hadn't happened. And it's not like you're not glad for those tragedies, but like it, you know, life has a way of working itself out. So I think we're just very grateful for, you know, the position we're in right now. I also think that information, I mean, it's going to be so helpful for a lot of people because I think a lot of the times you kind of, a lot of people generalize the ideas of miscarriages as if it's just something that happens where it's like, oh, there's the science behind it. It's like, oh, because of your blood type or whatever it may be where I'm like,

I think that that's really pertinent information for people to know that it's like, hey, like maybe we do need to go see a specialist and figure this out. And it's not just a me problem, you know? mean that it's like there is a solution to it you know Natalie I think you're so brave and it's so you know great that you are sharing this publicly because you know like you said the doctor tested for something that they don't even test for anymore and you discovered this blood thing that you couldn't even have imagined existed and and it's possible that somebody listening here has the same thing and they would not have known to even test for it so thank you for sharing yeah

Yeah, it's hard not to make it feel so fortuitous for, you know, twins, given everything that happened, seems. I'm excited for the chaos happening at y'all's house. Oh, my God. Are you prepared? A little overwhelming, you know, it's like, I don't know how. This might be far ahead. Are you going to, like, do the thing where you dress them all that, where you dress both of them the same? Yes, and 100%.

But, like, are you going to choose, like, different colors for each of them? Or are they going to be, like, exactly the same? We will be dressing the same constantly. That, yeah, rocks. You two as well? Yes. I have a choice. We will all be dressed

the same, same outfit. The Von Trapp family. Same with Steve and Jeff. I'll have everybody in family wearing. Stephen Jeff will also be included. What are they going to do? I'm predicting in your future a lot of trips to amusement parks.

Oh my God, one day you guys are going to be able to watch the Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger movie Twins with them. There she goes. There she is. Hi, Mayor. That's all I have to say That's true My lips now

Sealed Well congrats So congratulations So so happy for you guys I'm just Yeah twins is Amazing I'm sure it's going to be a handful And a lot to deal with

And not going to be easy But it's nice to be able to finally just tell people too At first it was like It was scary at first We told some friends and then it's just like obviously with finding out you know twins are coming it's like overwhelming and scary and how like how you're excited but you're just like how do we execute like we're like we're going from one to three children i can imagine it's the only thing you're thinking about like yeah

just doing the show and like we've you know we travel a lot for work and we've you know we're very lucky to be as busy as we are and we've really especially with river we we really we really really focused on obviously being present parents and being involved, but like continuing our very exciting, very busy life. Yeah. And we certainly hope to do that as everyone does. But when, you know, it's like I don't, you know, you don't know how your life's going to change or how you're, you know, how you're going to be able to manage, you know,

your current way of life with, with, when two more kids show up. I've definitely been like leaning on a lot of moms with twins of like asking them their processes and like what they're doing because it's like it feels impossible you know it feels for someone who is going from one to three twins like the idea of it and every video I've seen is like I wish I could hug the version of me that was so scared of this and it's like the mom like breastfeeding both of her twins or like just crushing it she's got such a routine and schedule with them and like she's like I wish I could hug that version of me that was like terrified and thought I couldn't do this.

You know, and we were obviously just in Mexico. And I felt like everyone we talked to there randomly also had twins. And so we were like picking their brain of like... Yeah, I met this lovely couple on the beach who has to take a picture with us. They're like, would you like us to take a picture? A family photo. And she

had her belly out. Yeah, so she asked me when I was due. I asked when she was due. And then she was due before me. And I'm like, well, I'm having twins. That's why I'm so much bigger than you are. She just had the sweetest, tiniest little bump.

And she was like, oh my gosh, our three-year-olds are twins. And then we were like, what have you been doing? You're going to start noticing this everywhere, though. It's like when you're looking for a car and there's like a car on your mind, you just start seeing it everywhere. I was going to say your ex-boyfriend's car. It's like, why is everyone who drive this car? A Ford Explorer from 2008?

How original? Well, I could give you my mom's number, and I'm happy to talk to River. My parents got me a dog as my twin, but you already have two. Unfortunately, it can't be a cat. Hamster. I think we'll get her a cat. I don't know. We'll have to get her a cat. Get her a cat. You're going to have to get her her own twin eventually. This will be good for her. Like my sister was real pissed when I showed up. And she's still pissed that you're around. I do think there is something so beautiful about like a family with siblings who have like differences or like for me like there's such

like a age gap between me and my siblings and it created such a different and special relationship with me and them and I feel like with twins like to be the single person and to be like someone with twins as siblings that also creates kind of like this really interesting and special dynamic where it's like river gets her like little twins you know what I mean like it's really sweet you're getting two baby dolls she's so funny because she obviously like we talk about it we tell her there's like the ultrasound pictures on the fridge and We'll be like, remember how many babies are in mama's belly? And she goes, one, two babies.

She carries two baby dolls around, you know, like she's... Oh, did you get her little baby twins? For her birthday, I got her the Barbie set that has two twins, and it's like two cribs. And it's two, it's like the... I think it's called Skipper Babysitter. But yeah, she, like, will carry around two baby dolls, and she's just... I'm really happy for you guys. This is so exciting.

This is such good news. You know, she's been really sucking in. I'm the show. I'm sitting like this. I've been like this. Now you can let it all out. Let them out, Mama. Let it out, Mama.

We are very grateful and appreciate all the support. We do have, once again, a fantastic episode lined up for y'all. Bailey Taylor from the new season of Summerhouse. She is a new cast member replacing... The other Bailey. The other Bailey, who was in a fake relationship. secret boyfriend in Lexi who came and went with a bang. She did love Lexi.

I think she did it perfectly. She did it lovely. She said, but now we have Bailey to kick off this season. It was a fun first episode. I like all the new cast movies. Kyle and Amanda really are going to give us their divorce season. It is hard to watch.

They fucking hate each other. Like I know it's always been like this, but it just now knowing that they're separated. They're not even pretending. It's just, yeah. And it's like the most uncomfortable. I can't imagine sitting at the table and like being around them, let alone like us like watching it on TV. I can't.

Obviously we'll talk about it. But is there a world where you guys are just grateful that Kyle and Amanda are willing to show this? Oh, absolutely. I want to see all of it. Are we willing to to offer them both a little grace given just like relationships are hard and and, you know, you know, obviously we have our opinions about choices that some of them are making in the marriage. Like being a DJ?

I think everyone deserves grace. Yes. For sure. But I just like, they're about to give us. A great season. A great season. A great season. A great season.

A great season. I mean, truly. Like, they're, that's not, you know, a divorce, hard, you know. Well, they weren't divorcing while filming. They were still. I don't think these things don't just happen overnight. I just, I don't. I don't see, I don't think that they showed up to this season throwing these types of jabs at each other if they didn't really think this was coming.

We did watch Amanda be like, I just want to have like a passion project and then Kyle go on a full on rant, call her a bitch and be like, well, I'm going to start a DJ as like as if it was some sort of facetious joke. And the next thing you know, he's a fucking DJ and cares more about his DJ career than his marriage. To next point though, there's a little bit of like a filter that's been dropped and you can see them actually like speak what they're both feeling. Yeah, they're not pretending. No, for sure. I'm still thinking season two. Summer should be fun. Amanda, not fun while she's sobbing.

Yeah, that's true. Because he has always been like this. The only difference is that now what we're seeing is that Amanda's over it. Amanda's not taking the shit anymore. Do we think next season it'll be single Amanda, single Kyle also? And by next season, you mean in the city? I was like, or do we think one will stay in the city and one will be Summer House? He'll definitely staying in Summer House for sure.

I think Sierra and Amanda are kind of like, you know, I think they'll go out together or stay together. I think Sierra needs to make the jump to the city. Give us a modern day sex in the city with the women and send it with Kyle in the summer house. We also have Amir and Natasha from the Valley Persian style to join us later this episode as well. The Valley Persian style is really, it's good. It's good. You guys are all catching on. We're very, very glad.

We jumped on board fast, and it seems like many of you are catching along to the awesomeness that is the Valley Persian style. And we are excited to have Amir and Natasha to talk about their time on the show. Also, do not forget to check out Vaughals Plus. Everything is ad-free now, including your update specials where you get updates on your favorite assnate callers, your deep dives into your favorite reality TV shows and characters. Like, who's Broin fucking these days? You know what I'm saying? Which will get to. Gosh, Brawn is my hero.

And they're your pop extras, where we get into some pop culture topics that we didn't cover on reality recap. Go to Valfiles.com and check it out. You'll be glad that you did. Anyway, Browen is out there. She's dating. She's got a man. Finally, we have a single housewife who is out there dating some hotties, getting her groove on, getting her groove back. Also, I love that she is dating this model, Brandon Good, for a few weeks.

And they're like in the comments, like back and forth. to each other being cheeky going out in public she's like I sorry this may work it may not work I don't know I don't care I'm going out I'm getting that we're getting in public I'm not hiding with him I'm going out I didn't see any photos of them until I saw it be announced and then it's the second it got announced it was like Christian Siriana posting stories everybody with both of them I want to see Baran sneak a couple haughty model men or women whatever whatever she wants honestly doesn't matter one two three into a girl's trip I want to want that Bob coming out of whatever hotel room just disheveled.

Activated. Just activated. Yeah. Just a little glow of sweat. So what are we fighting about? She's going to do something Heather Gade never could. As excited as Nick is, Mary was devastated. Oh, when I got this information.

Yeah. Hey, listeners, by the way, I really want to get my, I made a Bronwyn and Whitney. Good luck, babe fan cam. I'm trying to get it to 100K on Instagram. How's it doing? 95. Oh. It's doing good.

The people want to see it. And so I was kind of bummed when she did step out. Can you make a new one for Browen and her new man? Oh, it's going to kill her. That goes against her religion. She goes against her head. Her heart's not in that one. She said, celebrate her love.

Mary, Mary, you can make a fan cam about like how he came in and disrupted the relationship that could have been. No, what it's going to be. It's going to be. You crying in the corner? Whitney crying. Whitney crying in the corner. going to be, no, because this isn't about me. This is about Whitney. For sure. For sure. And so what it's going to be is it's going to be Bronwyn and her new

man. And then, like, I'll cut to and edit it. So it looks like Whitney's just like. Yes, that's what. Yeah. And then it's going to be the subway by Chapo. And then you have Nick being like. I'm just so happy. I'm so happy for her. You know, like divorce is separation. It's hard. And fans can be mean. And I've seen. some mean stuff out there talking about our girl Rowan and for her to just like embrace the single life go out there live her best life don't know what's going on with her and Todd but obviously like

I think just say good for her like I just I'm happy that she's happy and she's having fun and we just do not get to see a lot of housewives who are single like bring us into this part of their world and I think it's fun he said Derreet take note yes to read you said I want to know that the housewives are getting like piped down. Your words, not mine. How do you think Todd handled

this news? I mean, I do hope that he was on a date. That's what I think to, yeah. I hope that it wasn't his cousin. I hope that he was the first one to have to go out on a date and that it's like they're both separated and moving on their lives. I want them all to be happy. Me too. Todd needs somebody that's not on reality TV

and Bronwyn need somebody that like will go to every fashion show. Maybe he's even in the fashion show. And she's first front row. I do think the Roney the e-show that they just announced Golden Life is probably going to be this. It's in Palm Beach, but it's going to be them all, they're all single.

I don't know if I'm ready for this. It's going to be awesome. Hot, rich people probably. It's going to be awesome. Mona and Sonia Morgan return. Angel. I am not a trophy wife. I'm telling you guys,

after you watch this new hit show called Age of Attraction that's coming out on Netflix, March 11th, we're really going to be supporting our adult queens who may want to dabble. So true.

In the young, hot model men arena. So true. I mean. And I think if that is for you, God bless. Get in it. Get in it.

Go have some fun. Go have some fun. Let people have fun. Yeah. You know? The boys have been doing it for centuries. It's now time. Exactly.

Girlies have fun. Do whatever you want. Yeah. You know who's having a lot of fun right now? Who? Brittany Bateman on American Idol. Oh, yeah. She said, and do you know who I am?

And it was crickets. There's nobody, though, who could recover from that better than Brittany Bateman. So true. She said, she loves a bit. Brittany is okay. She's going to commit to a bit.

Being the butt of the joke. She said, I'm Brittany. Bateman. You know who I am? She said, I have an announcement. And they were all like, gay. Carrie Underwood said she has a knife. And she does have a knife.

Are you going to say good things. I've met you somewhere, though. Before she walked in, they were like, why do you have a glass? What? And she's like, you'll know. They're like, this is the, this is the, This is the wrong network. We don't know what that.

Do you think she has copyrighted? I have an announcement. Ting, ting, ting, tang. She should. That might be tough. That might be tough. Ting, ting, ting. It is very vague.

Very common. And I'm also curious what she's going to do with this trademark of high body count hair. Probably nothing. Probably just nothing. She probably just got it to be petty. Yeah. Sell it to Angie.

She got her air time. Yeah. But no, she was on American Idol. She was there with her niece who was auditioning. And they sang together. But why did they sing together? if her niece was auditioning. Yeah, I didn't feel like

it was necessarily a duet moment. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think that they brought her on for the bit and she had to sing if she was going there. Yeah, she sang her name. I just kind of felt like the niece's auditions

sounded really good and she played the piano, but then there was like moments where like they were both singing together and I was like, I don't know that's how it's supposed to sound. I thought the tune was good. I don't know if that's how the song goes. You know what I mean? Maybe it was just creative choice here.

It was giving cabaret. It was giving live in the moment. It's giving like kind of cheating too. You know, like, cheating. Like, if she's not going to participate, but I'm going to help you audition. Yeah, what if was really good, though. I really liked her voice. Did she get through?

I think she got the golden ticket and then Ryan Seacrest was like, are you still dating Jared? No way. Oh, so someone new. They had to know. Ryan can give him a heads up. It's giving, I don't know who you are, but I know you are. Ryan Seacrest knows who you're dating. Are you going to be on American Idol now?

We will see. I mean, we posted our. Cutdown. We talked about it on pop and posted a cutdown about it. Please tune in to pop. We talk about fun things. We posted a cutdown of our conversation about American Idol and American Idol got into the DMs. Well, American Idol commented and then I put on our story, how do we get Leah on American Idol? Because the cutdown was Leah trying to go to us to say, can you sing? Then I can show up as like, are you getting to be like, and I'll be like, do you know who I am? And they'll be like, no. Yes, and then you'll sing with me Well then you have to say instead of like Nick Viol, you'd be like

Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy? Anyways, so we'll see I don't know if I want to embarrass myself on TV. Leah has an amazing voice. Well, it is Felene Deonner's no My karaoke song is Can you sing a whole new world?

What is that song? It's a system of a down. Oh, wake up! Yes. That's your song? Yes, because. That's awesome. I just like to joke around and have fun and I'm not actually ever like, you know.

I'd probably do like... We should do an Islands in the stream duet at karaoke one time. That would be really funny. We'll see. I don't know. We'll see where this plot goes. I'll keep you all a prize. All right.

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Hi, thank you so much for having me. Super excited to have you. Congratulations on being a part of the Summer House cast. It was a fun first episode. It was a fun first weekend. It was crazy. I'm enjoying you so much. We were all discussing the worst places we've been broken up with.

Sweet Greens, pretty epic. Well, for me, it was her, like, describing how he had his bags packed. Yeah. And she's just like... The looking outside. and seeing the suitcases and like we lived together. Leaving the suitcases on the street in New York City. What a drama king.

It's like bold. Yes, very bold. And then like I went outside and I was just like shaking and then he just like wheeled the suitcases away and just kind of like walked away from me. It was like the lack of explanation. I just was like it was the most blindsiding weird thing. How long were you guys together? Two years.

Wow. And have you heard from him since? We've talked since but it just like it was such a horrible relationship. but it's just, it's not. Did he reach out to you after seeing the episode? Yeah. No. There's a 0% chance you would ever watch it.

I know that for sure. Well, you know someone in his life. He will be finding out for sure. He knows. Definitely. He knows who he is. Well, after my family and I went and saw the Mighty Ducks at a budget theater, we got home and they played the answering machine.

Yeah, I know. It was a while ago. On your family's landline? Yeah. And the message was Nick. This is Kelly. You're dumped. Not in front of the whole family.

That might even be worse. At least it was in person. I was in the sixth grade. So in fairness to her, she... In fairness to her, she couldn't drive. She didn't want the drama at school. Yeah, she didn't eat salads. I like that Kelly knew what she wanted in sixth grade.

You know? She was like, I don't know. Respect Kelly. And honestly, Kelly's loss is my game. There you go. Bailey, how did you, how did you be? being on Summerhouse come to be? So one of my friends,

I had known Amanda through our friend Dylan. And then another friend of mine posted something about like the casting and looking for best friends. And I was like, okay, this could be fun. I already know Dylan. I know Amanda through Dylan. This could be cute. And then they kind of were like, who is your best friend? You have someone that like you genuinely would want to be here with.

And I was like, it absolutely would be Levi. It has to be Levi because anybody else would be. disingenuous, like this is my true sister in this world. And yeah, just kind of like, it came together very quickly and it was very exciting. And I was so grateful to have Kyle and Amanda there just to like, kind of ground it a little bit and just kind of like make me feel more comfortable. But it was such a wild summer. Oh my gosh. It was just absolutely wild. Well, speaking of Kyle Amanda, obviously the news of their separation has been out. And then we get to see this first episode. and they really seem to be prepared to give us their divorce season.

There were certainly some awkward moments watching it. I'm curious, what was it like for you being in the house and seeing your friends kind of? When he's like, she's not listening and she's like, I'm so jealous. I wake up every morning filled with jealousy. And he's like, what are you talking about? I was like, this is crazy. Anyways, what was it like for you? It was more sad for me than like, than anything else.

I just, I feel like it's always sad. Just, I don't know, you're watching two people that love each other, but it just like can't, it isn't clicking and working at that time. So it's just, it was more sad to me than anything. I just like, I felt bad. I want them both to be happy and I just respect them and love them both. So it was just for me as a friend, it was just kind of, it's just more sad to watch your friends go through something like that than anything. Well, since you're friends with both of them, you know, we were talking about this before, you know, people will obviously have their pains and talk about this breakup. yada yada yada and take sides and as as we do and i think a lot of people it's i think it's easy

for a lot of people to empathize with amanda's point of view and i think a lot of people are struggling with kyle's point of view because it's just like yo you're you're kind of choosing this lifestyle but like as someone who's friends with both of them do you have empathy for for kyle's point of view or do you understand his position in a way that maybe the audience isn't getting or are you kind of seeing what we're seeing i feel like i'm just really grateful that they're in such a good place now that it's just like I feel like everyone's kind of come to a mutual understanding at this point where it's like they seem to just be doing really, really well and kind of like come to a place of mutual understanding. So I feel like if they can come to a place

of mutual understanding and be good together, then so can I. But I truly just want them both to be happy. And I love Amanda and I want her to thrive. And I got my girls back for sure. But if they're both good, there's really nothing, you know. Well, we do see in the trailer, you and Carl getting a little touchy-feely. Is there any moment that maybe you are nervous about airing? No, there's nothing I'm nervous for. Carl is a wonderful, adorable person. I am, I have nothing but so much love for Carl, so I love making out with Carl and we'll make out with Carl anytime. So I am not nervous at all. I will scream my love for girl from the rooftops. Well, it's a very single house other than right now, Connell Amanda.

Going into this house, were you hoping for a showmance, open to a showmance? Were there any of the boys there that you were fancying at all? I was, I was just like, I've been single for so long. I've had this traumatizing breakup that clearly was like just ailing me. And I really hadn't dated at all since the breakup. So I was just kind of like, I was just excited to like have fun. let loose and just kind of like rediscover that feeling. And I feel like I did that. And the boys are great. There was some that like definitely it was like, you're my friend instant vibes. And then yes,

there's definitely some like, there's some hotties in that house. So yes, I definitely have, there's a lot of flirtation and me learning how to like get back out there. I was very trepidious to do so. And so I really like, I really try to like open up and let men in again and and see the good in them. And. Carl is just a sweet, sweet human being who I'm very lucky to have met. So you didn't want to just eat shrimp and die alone? There were times. It's a great line.

There were times when it got overwhelming. Yeah. There were times when I was like, I can't handle this. And I was like, I just, there's too many dynamics. But I did try to put myself out there. But yeah. Sierra said on Watch What Happens Live that West's ass looks really great in genes. And I'm just wondering if you can confirm or deny.

And out of. Oh, West As does look great. Westass looks great all the time. West does have a great ass. Does he have the best ass of Summerhouse? Ooh. Ooh. I might say yes.

I might say yes. I think Ben probably has the best abs or KJ. Ben and KJ both like there's some really major app moments going on. But yeah, West does have a really cute butt. And KJ, he's really giving Australian Matthew McConaughey. Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, yes. Ben is literally the definition of Australian Matthew McConaughey. I was like literally I had met him for five minutes and I was like okay Australian Matthew McConaughey is looking at me and I don't know how to do you uh did you go back and watch his bachelor season no no because he said not to he didn't he didn't want us to he said like it wasn't a strong representation of him and so I wanted to be like respectful of that's like when you know someone in person you like I know him so I was just like okay if it if you feel like this really isn't a good representation he said he kind of like froze up and it just didn't it wasn't him.

So, no, I did not watch it. You're a good friend for doing that. He's a stunning man. He's stunning. Did you, what else can you tease of this season? Will we, are we bringing anyone home late at night? We get wild. Like, that is the thing I can tease is that this season is truly just wild.

And I was like a girl with a mission. I just was like, I need to make out and I need to have fun and I need to hang out with boys. And so I really, I was putting myself out there. I was crazy. Going into the house, I mean, speaking of last season, Lexi and Bailey, Bailey didn't last very long. Lexi had a phenomenal season, but it was kind of full of controversy. She didn't really seem to connect with the rest of the women.

There was a lot of kind of discourse about how, you know, whether the women could have been more welcoming to her. Going into this house, did you have any anxiety or fears about just, you know, this is an OG cast, many of people, their friends. It didn't again go very well for the newbies last season. What was that experience like for you? And yeah, did you have any nerves going in? I was definitely very nervous and it is.

Knowing Amanda had a little bit of a leg up because it wasn't just like, like I said, I had that comfort of her and Kyle just kind of knowing they were there. But it's a scary experience just to go in and to go into a sharehouse with people who have known each other that long. And you're like learning this person dated this person and this person likes this person and this person doesn't like this one and this is this. And you're just kind of overwhelmed with all the dynamics. But I had a very positive experience with the girls.

I'm just like a, I'm a girl's girl through and through. So I just right off the jump was just like in there with the girls. And I had my best friend. So it was also like I had her to lean on. So I was very lucky that I had that experience of having Levi with me because it's like, no matter what's happening, her and I can just bop around and dance and be silly, goofy crazy. So I had a very positive experience as a name. newbie and especially with the women. Like we really bonded and kind of like look at the men and are like,

wow, they make some very questionable decisions. So I was really like with them and being like, yeah, no, that's, they're insane. So I was, I was team girl very much so. So I had a great positive experience with all of them. Do you know why they did bring in more newbies this season compared to last seasons? I don't. That was not told to me in any way. So I actually do not know. We were surprised with things and surprised with newbies just like everyone else is going to be. So we did not have any insight as to anything. Like it was a genuine surprise the entire time. Who threw the best party this summer?

Ooh. The first one is hard to be. I loved the first party because there was so much more of like the pie. The pie was so fun. Everybody pying each other was hilarious. And then just like there was so much dancing. But I would say Sierra throws the best party. Hell yeah.

Good. Sierra for the girls and West for the guys, maybe? That sounds about right. What I like to see. When the season comes to an end, what do you think the fans will be saying most about you? That I cry a lot. Okay. Thanks for the heads up.

I cry a lot and that I am truly an open book. I really just like have this thing where I compulsively say every thought that comes to my brain and I can't help myself. What do you think about right now? How amazing and fun this is. There we know. She's talking about her feet. She's telling the truth. She's telling the truth.

I'm so excited for everyone to see this summer just because I just know that like that was just such a taste of how crazy and wild and just like the ex. I can't describe it to anybody. I'm just like it was wild. Like we just keep the party going and we go out so much. And it was just like it was just like a nonstop party fest that I'm like I'm just so excited for. for people to see it because I just think they're going to have a really fun time. And there's just really like beautiful bonding moments where the house really like feels like a family and just really hysterical moments that are just outlandish that I'm excited for people to get to see. So I am, that's what I'm thinking about is don't spoil anything, but I just want everyone to know wild at all times.

Before we let you go, Bailey, we're going to play a little game. And based on this season, give us one word to describe what we should expect from the rest of. of your cast members, okay? I can just pick any word? We're going to go, yeah, any word you want? Just one adjective to describe these cast members and what we will think and feel or about their experience.

Starting with Mr. Jesse Solomon. He's really one of the girls. I know that's not one word. Girl? Girls, girl. He was really just one for the girls in a different way this season, I feel like. You know what, honestly, like,

he learned his lesson. I love that for him. Yeah, I love that for Jesse. He's like, I'm going straight backs. He was like a big. He was very much like there for everybody and just like, yeah, he's one for the girls in a different Jesse Solomon way this season. He walked in. He was like, fuck him.

Yeah, he's like, these men are despicable. Sierra. Open. Levi. Fun. West. Crazy party animal. Lindsay.

Milf. Oh, let's go. Hard milf energy. I can say that. She is ready to like, like, she's. She's a mouth beyond. KJ. Sweet.

Amanda. Vulnerable. Carl. Amazing. Mia. Collected. Dara. Flirty.

Ben. Hot. And Kyle. Struggling. Okay. I'm not going to say messy. Bailey, we appreciate you taking the time. Really excited to see this season unfold for you.

Please let our audience know where they can. can follow you and enjoy anything that you're doing outside of Summerhouse. They can follow me at at Bailey T. Taylor on Instagram at It Girl the Series. And I have a fun little podcast surprise coming soon as well. All right. Well, check it out. Bailey, appreciate you. And we'll talk soon.

Good luck the rest of the way. Thank you, guys. Bye. Thank you. Bye. Love her. Love her. Yeah.

Jakes. Well, we do have a rapid recap for Summerhouse. If you missed the premiere episode, we are back. baby and Amanda already wants to drive out with Sierra instead of Kyle. There's a new guy who's also from Kansas City and is a skater. Welcome, KJ. We all think you're really hot. And also two new girls, Bailey and Levi, who were immediate besties. Amanda is still pissed that Kyle is a DJ. Sierra has decided she's not going to eat West alive this summer because she's trying to be less rigid. Jesse wants to be a bedbug with Sierra and Amanda now that page is gone. Kyle lost his wedding

ring so Amanda won't wear hers until he gets a new one, which could mean nothing. Bailey just got out of a two-year relationship and got broken up with it, a sweet green after the guide cheated on her. But she is very excited about this summer. There's also a new guy named Ben. He's Australian and was also on the Australian Bachelor, which is like regular Bachelor, but instead of roses, you get to wrestle a giant scorpion. Whoever wins falls in love. Anyway, Carl feels like him and Kyle aren't close anymore because he's too into DJing. Him and Sierra are also still have that flirty thing going on. West wants to not put any expectations on his friendship with Sierra and see what happens. And it seems like so does Sierra. The internet is telling Amanda to divorce Kyle.

And now she's confused. But then Amanda Skitty Dips and Kyle freaks the fuck out. Welcome home. If you ever take a road trip with a like a group of friends and we're all like, road trip and you're like, I'm going to not ride with you. I'm definitely going to be worried. What do you mean? There's a guy's car and a girl's car.

Why do I want to sit with Jesse and Carl when I can be with my girls? So true. I'm always trying to be with my girls. There's no way right now you would do that. Right now. Okay, if we were going on a road trip, even just with work, right? And it was you, Justin, Jack, and Kyle in a car. And then it was me, Sierra, Mary, and me.

You would be like, Natalie, you need to ride with me? Yeah. Yes. You would make me be in there with all the stinky boys? I mean, you're stinky? Correction, I wouldn't be with the boys in the first place. Yeah, Justin actually. Justin already jumps.

Running about Justin in that. That is true. Justin would be in our car and it would be... Y'all can take Mary. Trayvon. What? Trevon. Trevon.

Kyle. Kyle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say with Nick. I have no issue with Nick. Oh, thank God. Whoa. I think it was valid for like girls' car.

I think if it was like if Kyle had to drive alone, then like that's not very nice. You're going to make him drive alone for two hours sit in traffic. But like he's got his friends with him. Especially for the first episode where you're introduced. producing two new women and it's like they're all going to bond and like, yeah, they're all chat. It seems like all he cared about was his DJ set anyways. He was like Amanda, can you check my DJ set? Okay, cool. I just can't have it touching anything. She really rose at when she was describing how his DJ career started. He's looked, it's not how it went down. It was 100% accurate

the way that she turned to see her. Did I lie? Like, no. And then they replayed the clip and it's like, yes, you literally started this DJ career out of spite. I know, guys, we talked about it when he started the DJ career and we were all like, is he for real that he's doing? Like, we talked about it even. I mean, you got to respect his follow through. Like, you know, playing. It's like yes and no, because the whole thing was that she wanted to start a bathing suit line because she didn't wanted her own thing outside of lover boy. And he was like, lover boy is our everything. We need to invest everything into it. And you're not committed. He's like, I can't have you distracted and not focused on lover. And look, he's distracted now. I mean, it's just the reality. It's like you want to,

again, have grace for for both parties. But if like, if, if let's, say a man called in to ask Nick and she was like hey I've been married for how many years she's four or five I think she said four in that she said they've been together for 10 years no she said no she said four long years or long years that's what she said and then she's all the sudden like yeah my husband she's like I'm ready for the next phase of my life whatever that phase is which is like generally just maybe a little slower a little bit more like connecting as far as a couple and she's like yeah my my husband just started pursuing a DJ career and now he's gone you know four nights a week the fact that he's no no no the fact that he said he had been gone what did he say like every night for the

past 11 months you just wants to press play and then he he was like and she doesn't do anything she doesn't even try when i'm here and that that pissed me off so bad because i was just like all it says is that you get to do whatever you want and now you expect amanda to be the person to hold your relationship together but you put zero effort you get to go fly party stay out late do whatever you want to do and then make her feel like shit because she stays home not enough Netflix and chill. Okay. And then it's like, then you expect her to come home and be laying on the bed on rose petals.

Being like, oh my God, I miss you so much. And you can tell that his like frustration also has to do with the fact that he hasn't gotten late in probably a long time. Sarah, do you remember like two seasons ago when they were looking for houses for their family to settle down in the suburbs and like look where we are now? Exactly. He made that whole thing about her not being committed to a lover boy, not being a good worker. And that's why she can't have or like that why they don't have a family yet is because she's not ready. and it looks like the only person who's not ready to settle down and have a family is the one who just announced his DJ tour at colleges.

That is crazy. He is like doing a tour of colleges. That is nuts. You got to start somewhere. I'll give him that. No, it's not even about the start. He's DJs in Las Vegas. He DJs at pretty big events.

He moved up quickly. Yeah, and then he was like, you know, let's downgrade and hit on college girls while we get drunk. Yeah, that part's a little. Yeah. It's nuts. It's lifestyle. It's like when they met. and when they got married, this wasn't, like, that's a big...

This wasn't a part of it. This wasn't an issue. Like, are you still happy? And he's like, I'm happy when I'm entertaining people and I press play. That's when you're happy. Pressing flow. It's when, yeah, the happiest. It is, it's tough to see his side.

And seeing how he like kind of paints it to where it's like, he can't wait to badmouth Amanda behind her back to anybody who will listen instead of saying it to her face and then gets mad when she responds the same way. No, Sierra, him in the master bedroom, clearly no one's in there. He's talking to himself, knows he's mic'd up. Oh, my God. Another time when she makes me feel invisible and I'm not heard and she's making me feel this. No, no, no.

It's like you're doing, like. Well, he clearly thinks of himself as a bit of a victim in this situation. I am genuinely curious on how? On why and how. Yeah, because he has everything he wants. I have a question for you. You opened this conversation by asking. by saying that if Natalie didn't go in the car with you, that'd be weird, right?

So I have a question. Every weekend, when Amanda wants to stay home and spend a Friday night in bed, and Kyle decides to go partying with the boys and the other single women, what are you about? I mean, I think that's crazy. I think, honestly, just being a husband, it's, it's about. You made a promise. You invest in that relationship. you make sacrifices.

Sometimes the sacrifices maybe, you know, you might want to do something else. But for the most time, it's not like a, I can't do this. Like you, I enjoy spending time with my wife and my kid. And I enjoy the lifestyle that I have now. And even though I've never been a big partier, like, you know,

I still went out plenty in my 20s and early 30s. And now, like, I am glad life has slowed down. And it's not for, I guess, everybody. but like I enjoy doing things for my wife and I enjoy the you know my love language is acts of service clearly it's not Kyle's I don't know what Kyle's love language is but yeah it no it blows my mind I don't know how words of affirmation I don't know how you make a relationship quality time definitely not physical touch but he's watching Kyle like spin it because it was like the original spin with like lover boy and why he was out all the time it's like hey I have to talk to people I have to get them invested in the product I need to be the face I need to be there and then it's like as everybody said this up It's like you found another career that could legitimize why you need to be out. But then to Amanda's point is that somebody's husband, that's a DJ, goes out, does his job and then goes home. He just works second shift. Exactly.

It's a job. And then Kyle's trying to be like, no, it's a lifestyle. And it's like, bro, it's a choice. And you're making an interesting one. But the way he gets so mad, we're seeing clips of the upcoming season where Kyle clearly feels misunderstood, not heard, not seen, not validated. and I'm curious why, or is it just he is, is he that selfish and really thinks that like a marriage is about, you know? My wife sacrificing everything for me to be happy. I mean, Kyle is giving, his marriage dream is I get to pursue whatever professional thing I want.

And those, in my dreams, I need to feel fulfilled. And I want a wife to support that, support that, welcome me. me when I get home and when I am ready for her, I want her to be present and invested and ready to go. Like him, I guess. You better be on a sign up list for one of those AI robots then. Him waking her up after going out that night and being like, do you have an eye mask? Oh, yeah.

You did not just make me. Did you pack one? I don't get up and look for one. I don't know. Like, why are you asking me? He also sighed, didn't he? Yeah. All right, well, fuck me then.

Yeah. Or something. Did you pack an eye masks her? Also, the, the, what's, when she took off her shirt and went into the pool. Oh, when he got mad at the house? I was like, okay. This is like way just like far back on house. Did you notice how Ben was the one to give her a towel when she was like, I need a towel?

And he stood there with his arms crossed. Well, there's something going on between Ben and Amanda. Oh, the way. Oh, my God. Did you see the way he, like, picked her up? And, like, that was hot as fuck. Yep. They're hot.

Like, but wait, going back to this, this nude or whatever, she's in underwear, okay, and she gets wet. Sometimes it's a little see-through,

who gives a fuck? But I'm also kind of like, Kyle, I've seen more of your body on the 10 seasons of this show than I've ever seen of Amanda's boobs. I've seen Lindsay Hubbard's boobs.

You guys played like, like, strip, whatever that game is where you try to put the bean bag through the whole, cornhole? Like, yeah, like, it's like,

I've seen them all, like, you've seen each other's body. So for you to sit there all of a sudden 10 years in, he had a little, cowboy hat over his penis on his like 40th birthday

and I'm like and you're gonna sit here and be precious about this? I was just like since when are we that like it's summer house literally. Okay wait hold on you guys yes West and Sierra oh god I don't no nothing to do with it what oh my god no I'm so here for it

I'm here it so hard she was on the merry go round oh my god oh my god in West watching her he was like Yeah, but they love her. They love each other. Do you want to know what I did,

what I reacted when they were interacting, and it was positive and good and fun? I went, Mary, there's your next fan cam, by the way. Yes. Oh, it's totally a Westman Sierra fan cam. I mean, whatever, I guess if they're really happy, but they really put us through it the past couple seasons.

God forbid it's a slow burn. Wes put us through it. He put Sierra through it, and for a whole season, she made him regret it. And now she's like All right All right She's got a cute butt

What? No real em Oh Yeah Yeah Just send her You should I kind of think

They're endgame You guys I gotta be honest I think they're I think they're made for each other I just saw West's POV a little bit more You know

And look was coming back For seconds No I just I can't So it doesn't seem like It's still his POV I can't No it's all West's fault

And that's I'm Nice Can we get that on a cut down? Yeah. When Jesse, for the preview of what's coming up this season, when Jesse's like, hey, do you mind if I make out with Sierra and Westman, what is that in the works? I was like, talk about acceleration.

I hope Jesse, you know how Bailey was just talking about how like Jesse's a girl's girl? I hope that that's like planted, that Jesse's got this plan where he's going to be like, I'm going to make West jealous so that he knows. People were saying that he's filling the gap with page. Because he was in the bed on his phone. Well, when she was saying that he's one of the girls, I was like, I love that the tallest guy in the group went to, like, fill the shoes of the smallest girl. I love Jesse being one of the girls.

This is a perfect art for him. It's where he needs to be. We need that. He needs that for it. He needs to just take a break for a minute. He said that last season. He was like, I'm not going to mess with any girls, Lexi. But you know, there's nothing I love more than, like, the will they won't they.

And the West and Sierra storyline has been that. and this season feels like, okay, I'm emotionally ready for this to be. Like last season, I would have been like, Sierra, please no. I don't think it's going to happen. But now I'm ready. If they go into it being like, all right, let's not put. I think what's really working for them right now, they'll be civil. And it seems like Sierra made a point to be like, I don't really have any expectations.

And so did West. And I think it's like if you're going into it without any expectations of each other, it's just going to pop up. It's just going to pop up and you can have fun. And I think that's what they should do. Watch what happens live. They did a poll about wanting West and Sierra together, and it was like astronomical, yes. And, like, she was down with it. There's nothing I love more than watching a man win a woman back.

Right. He has to work for it. Yes. Like watching him grovel. But the fact that, like, she thought that the animals were. And, like, he was like, oh, that makes me happy. It makes me feel like this is home again. So cute.

Oh, and also, shout out to West because I was like so cute when he was checking on KJ and it was like, man, like, is it okay if, if I check on you? Like, do you like, do you like that? And it was just like, oh, okay. I like their friendship. Oh, also KJ making me feel very confused is all I have to say. Oh, yes, man. That guy's hot. And he's a, he's a skater.

KJ, all right. He's like, I invented a skateboarding trick. I was like casual. He's like, I've only ever been like around women. I'm just like so in tune with women and I love to hang out. I'm a model. I lived in Europe. I have anxiety.

No, you do cry. It is okay. I have anxiety. Oh, my God. I love it. Love. So cute. And he's so cute.

No one's literally ever said that to me. A man with anxiety, love. Everyone's like, what's the fuck is wrong with you? Why don't you have any fun? Well, he's charming about it. Sad boys are normalized now. You know what that reminded me of? Back to my gummy balcony, DJ.

Yeah, yeah. Your party of once. You know what some of the worst advice people get? What? Just be yourself. Oh, I've never had that issue. That's always worked out great for me. Because like, honestly, sometimes, like, I've tried to be myself and people are like, no.

Well, then you don't want to be around them. Sometimes I, well, no, sometimes I do tell Nick, like, when we're going into family events, like, okay. Be a little less you today. Perform, you got this. Which I'm fine to do. And listen, I really think, I think the key of life of happiness. And then I'm like, I'm like in awe by him. He's like, wow, you know, and how are you, Tony, how is your surgery?

How was that? Are you recovering okay? And I'm like, it's my man. This morning, he did bring my sister coffee and a breakfast sandwich and didn't even ask her if she wanted it. He just was like, acts of service. Acts of service. You know, so that's the thing.

Who always has a good personality? I think the beauty of KJ and his anxiety is that he's just like very, he's very vulnerable and open about it. You could be more like, guys, I'm just, I'm anxious right now. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've tried that.

I've tried that. I've tried that. I'm not, I'm feeling anxious right now. I'm just having some social anxiety. I'm a little overstimulated. Like, I promise I'm having fun. I just, I need a thing. I'm just saying sometimes being yourself is the bad, is bad advice, you know.

And that's your ass, Nick advice for the day. Don't be yourself. I did have a question about Summerhouse too. You can go first. Okay, period. What was it like seeing a fellow Bachelor alum on there? And, like, would you, if you were in this. Maybe I will say, like, that whole scene was something I related to.

The whole, like, did you know he was on the Bachelor when the two, like, two people are talking about you to your face, right? And then it's a whole like, oh, but you were the Bachelor and what was that like? And you're trying to like. And encouraging people not to watch your season? Yeah. Yeah. So. Like, oh, no.

Very. I instantly thought of you because he was like, no, it's not. me like da-da-da-da-da and I was like I wonder if this is how like Nick was getting off the back-shler. How do I get out of this conversation without like sounding like I'm like. Like you're trying to be like no, don't look at it. Yeah. You're like seriously.

Don't. Yeah. You admit that you're feeling anxious that they're having this. Yeah. I'm like, all right. Like what would I should do the opposite of what our instincts are? Like George Costanza. My question.

When they got, so when they first arrived at the house and Sierra's car left the trunk open for people to grab the suitcases, two parts. The first part of the car. question, would you grab the suitcases if you were coming after? And the second part, I do, I do kind of wonder if Kyle got the short end of that stick because all of the other guys didn't grab anything from the trunk, but like the heat came on Kyle. Well, Kyle's married, first of all. So that is why. He kind of told Sierra to like get her own bags kind of in a way. He did. And I'm doing devil's advocate a little bit. I'm just asking. Because what was crazy about

that whole thing was that he sat there fights with Sierra about going and getting the stuff because, hey, we've got five minutes until torrential downpour. And then the next. And then everybody's going and taking caravans and grabbing stuff. And then you have him popping open a lover boy alone in the kitchen. And I was just like, you are just that guy. Like, instead of just grabbing the shit for your wife and her friend, it's like, let's put up a whole thing to not do anything. Also, are you scared of water? Kyle does not do what he doesn't want to do.

He is, he gets nothing out of, like, helping people. I was going to say it's hard for me to believe that Kyle can put someone else first. You know what I mean? Like, without seeing how it would take something away from him. Whereas even with the Amanda thing, support your wife. She can have a passion project. But it was like, no, it's taking time away from my company. You shouldn't be doing that.

You shouldn't even want to do that. Yeah, he doesn't, that doesn't seem to excite him. Like, nothing excites me more than sharing the spotlight with my wife for age of attraction. Nothing excites me more than seeing her star rise and her looking good. Like, I could give. Yeah. Together and not apart, yeah. It's, uh, it doesn't, Kyle does not seem to get that same joy.

No. No, I don't think he's been very supportive of Amanda really with anything. So that's why I'm like, it's sad. But it's like the scariest part of a relationship ending is when people don't want to fight for it anymore. You know, when people get quieter. Like what she said, I'm numb to it. And I know I should feel something. I know that this is bad.

But like, I just don't react anymore. When you saw Amanda, you still like call him 500 times and like smashing his shit in the bathroom because she's so upset that he's still not home and still out partying. And this was five years ago. You know what I mean? So the idea that she's married and he's still doing this shit, the Snapchat. It's so sad that she's like, I used to not, like, I couldn't fall asleep without him next to me. And now she's like, I just knock out. It's like that is so sad.

I'm excited to see them both date. I hope it doesn't get ugly like Jesse and Michelle got on the Valley. I worry. I don't think it will. I want them to stay friends. I think they do have a good. Amanda said that on Watch What Happens Live when she was asked who's going to date first, she's like, probably me. So I'm assuming that like Amanda, Amanda's not going to have a problem.

It's because everyone has seen how Kyle is as a partner and it's not the most intriguing. Even outside of the partner, it's like you see what he's like after a night out that I'm like, who's signing up for that? Sorry. I feel like that's actually really harsh. But like it is when you see somebody get to a point where they're talking to themselves in the kitchen to their snacks. They'll have his options. Unfortunately, yeah. We'll see her on the next season of Summerhouse.

I mean. Yeah. I would have grabbed the luggage. That's what I was trying to. get at with that conversation. Nice. And I think everybody here would too. Bring it back.

All right. Well, up next we have... I will just say one gripe. Jesse Solomon still hasn't answered my DM about the partyfuls. She was trying to get on the list for a party at Summer House. And just so you know that was filmed last summer. Well... Well, and it is February.

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have really been moved by obviously you guys and the vulnerability you guys have shared this season. And just talking about your marriage and how you guys stay connected and how you guys even discuss, you know, sensitive topics like loss and things like that. So first of all, I just want to say I appreciate you guys for being so vulnerable on television, opening up this very interesting and sometimes uncomfortable conversation. But we really appreciate it. Thank you. That's nice to hear. We're just, you know, we're new to this. So we don't know what is good, what's not good.

And we just kind of are just doing the best we can so far. For sure. Curious, like going into filming this, what conversations you guys have as a couple about the possibility of addressing this story and talking about it? Because obviously, it's very personal, you know, very difficult, I'm sure, to talk about at times.

And then you just invite, you know, outside opinions. And outside opinions are already difficult when it's just, I'm talking about your new haircut, you know, let along, you know, something as personal about what you guys have gone through. Yeah, I think, you know, we knew it was a possibility. Although when it started, I figured, okay, like, I'm just going to be the husband in the background, you know, helping with the kids. And this is going to be drama amongst the girls.

And then, lo and behold, here we are sort of digging into it. And as you watch the show, you sort of are realizing that this isn't something that we generally dig into. and we're figuring it out. Doing the show helped us to address this topic specifically that we were too busy to address or maybe we were hiding behind the fact that we had all these kids and we're like, ah, we'll just shelve it and not kind of deal with it.

And we decided, you know, as it was starting to unfold at least me, I was like, if I'm going to talk about this, I'm not going to half-ass it. I'm just going to, you know, really just dive into it. and it is what it is. I'm not going to be ashamed of whatever my feelings are, and I really genuinely care about Natasha, and I want to hear what she has to say. And that's okay if it's not great.

I'm scared by it, but I'll listen to it, you know? And if everybody's going to hear about it, everybody's going to hear about it. But I don't know how she felt. Like I was, I didn't see some of her scenes. Sure. So watching that back was very emotional for me, because I was like, you know, sort of not that did I make a mistake, kind of like making this storyline, I guess you would say,

but it's kind of hurting her and it made me feel sad, you know, that she was having those feelings and that I wasn't there to be able to be like, no, no, no, no, don't feel that, you know, or not that I should say that, but just I felt bad. I understand, yeah. How about you, Natasha? I mean, we, like moved really fast at our relationship. We met, we got engaged six months later.

we got pregnant, like a month after we got engaged. So we just kind of like, it was like, you know, just fast pace. And we didn't really have time to like sit and really talk about this topic. I mean, of course, like, when I first started dating him, I was like asking like how he feels about that and like where he's at. Like if he's ready to take the next step with someone else, you know, like obviously we had those conversations. And I was ready. But, you know, like I said, we just moved so fast. So it was, it's not something that I was like sitting there dwelling on.

And then we, it came up, you know, within our friend group and like topic. And so then it just like opened it up again. And I'm like, wait, like there are these feelings that, you know, I've had. But like, I just kind of like put because we got married, had kids back to back to back. like we just don't have time to like sit and think about that but you know it was just meeting with medium and all that like it just kind of was like oh wait like we actually never really you know got to the bottom of this and like how do you feel about that and how how are you feeling like every day and so it was it was nice actually to you know for sure that makes a lot of sense when hearing you guys talk

i mean nal and i have talked about this in our marriage but i think for for married couples i think sometimes, you know, it's just like the, you know, comfort, not necessarily complacency, but like, you know, it's interesting here you talk, Natasha, about when you guys first started dating, and obviously this was a topic you guys talked about, but your questions in your point of view that you're coming from a month into your relationship probably aren't the same a year and a half later when you're pregnant, you know, you're very much together. Now there's love there. And it would make sense to maybe revisit that conversation, but sometimes I think in a relationship, I don't know, you just kind of get comfortable with not bringing, you know, you don't want to rock the boat,

you don't want to say something. And so it's kind of like a lot, I think a lot of couples experience this. You almost like let the silence just kind of can be consistent sometimes. And I think as couples, we take for granted the importance of like checking in with each other or revisit a conversation that maybe you had in the past. But now that your current situation is different, it might mean you need to be revisited, whatever that situation is. So it makes a lot of sense and kind of fascinating to hear you guys talk about it from that perspective. Yeah, I think like that underlying, I don't want to say uncomfortable, but like it's just out

there lingering and we choose to kind of keep it, like suffer through the day, like all these days rather than just take the bandaid off. And now having done it, it was like, we could have, this would have been, we could have cut this out much earlier, like this unspoken sort of under the rug thing that we were avoiding out of fear, that it would change things, or, I mean, we were already, like, she was pregnant, we were married, like, there's no going back. So it's like, what's the point, sort of? But at the same time, I feel like our relationship is better because of this, like, therapy session we went through on TV.

Well, that's great to hear. I mean, so often we hear how reality TV can negatively impact couples. So it's always exciting and nice to hear stories where, you know, these situations will, you know, encourage or not necessarily force, but provide a space for people to get the word out. And I imagine you've heard from fans of people who have connected with your story, who have experienced some kind of loss that appreciate you guys opening up. Absolutely. Both of us. I mean, I get messages all the time. Like, my lost my husband. I lost my wife. Some of them are early in the grief journey. Some are further along. But they're just like, thank you for representing the widows and widowers and for sharing your story. I have some hope. Some of them are asking for advice. But I feel like Natasha gets a lot of messages too about being the person who's supporting. The widower or widow, you got messages, right? Yeah, a lot that we're like, wow, like I'm, you know, so it's, it's just, it helps to see that this, like, different view that I have, because I'm like, you know, it's not, she's not here anymore to, it's not like it's an ex, you know, so it's not someone that's like, oh, you know, like, are they, like, texting or does she, does he think about, like, getting back with her or something? It's not, you know, she's not here anymore. And it's, and it's, It's so different than like a breakup. So, yeah, I've just had a lot of people who are like, oh, like, how does it feel to be, you know, second choice or whatever? Like, I just, I don't know

how to feel about that. And I'm like, I don't think it should be seen that way. I think, like, you are, you know, his choice now. And I think, like, you know, that, of course, the previous wife who, you know, has, she passed from cancer. And, like, it's, you know, you know, it's, you It's so devastating, but, like, he has this future to look forward to, and I think that's something worth celebrating as well. So I just feel like. Yeah. Well said. Yeah.

I mean, as we know, loss affects us all at various points in our life. And it is always important to move forward. And it's great to see you guys do that in such a beautiful way. I'm curious, that scene from last episode, where Gigi, in Sky really got at it. How was it for you guys being there? Was it as intense? And are you guys as personally offended

by Sky not living, wanting to live in the valley? It was intense. I felt like it was unreal for a minute. Because I just, if you noticed, I'm like eating the whole time, sort of like, for a second, I was like, should I,

should I jump in here? And then I was like, no, I'm going to let them sort of figure this out. And I just went to my food. But it was when she got up And like, you know, because when you're filming, they have these bright lights and it just kind of looked unreal for a second as she was like standing over her. And this was all, I was, I couldn't believe it. I was like, what is happening? Yeah. Natasha's on the other side of the table. I honestly missed the whole first half of that. I was having a conversation. Me and Tanin were talking. And then all of a sudden we hear people like their voices raising. We're like, wait, what's happening over here? And then and then Golnessa gets up and we're like, wait, what just happened? So like I had to get kind of a recap. But, um, Yeah, it was definitely pretty intense. I was in the middle of it, but I was just more like, you know, sort of just looking back and forth.

It was, I mean, I wasn't like, I don't care about what she said about the Valley. It's just like, it doesn't bother me her thoughts. But there was just so much that led up to that moment. And everybody kind of had feeling, oh, there was, that's the, that's the, that's, the straw. Yeah. Right. So I think there's a lot more underneath the surface with within the relationships, but that was sort of the catalyst that blew this up. Yeah. I mean, if she doesn't like the valley, like, you know, I don't like, you know, I don't want to live in the west side. So I get it. It's fine. I guess people who are from the valley who are born and raised in the valley,

it could be offensive when you're constantly saying like, oh, this and that. Like the valley's like the food sucks. Everything sucks. And it's like, okay, come on. So, but I mean, me personally, I'm not from here. So I love the valley, but I'm from the Bay Area. So I'm not like personally offended. There is an air one in the valley.

Yeah. Have you been to Sportsman's lodge? We live by Palavash's one. It's like five minutes up the road. That's the only place that is worth eating. at. The best restaurant in L.A. is there one. Yeah. I mean, we had Reza on a couple weeks ago, and he kind of elaborated on his point of view when it comes to sky. But it sounds like you guys share his sentiment where it's like, you know, it sounds like she just gives that like a little

bit I'm better than everyone, I'm better than you, and just hypercritical, I guess, of everyone but herself. At least that's kind of how Reza put it. I think she wants to feel better than everybody and that's probably why she says those things. Right? It's not even about us. That's more about where she is trying to position herself or at least in her mind to make herself feel like she's above everyone. We're a little bit more easy going as you can see while you're watching the show. We're not like sort of in the throws. But she's definitely making comments and putting people down in the group. And the group, especially a Persian group, doesn't like to be talk down to.

Whose storyline are you most shocked by watching? Probably Sky, right? Yeah. I would say Sky, again, I was so shocked when that went down. I didn't even know she had that in her. Yeah, the... With the tissue since I blow my nose with. The tissue drop? Yeah.

Drop her around the world. Any other questions for Amir and Natasha? I don't think so. It's been so fun to watch you guys. And we're excited to continue watching Yel's journey on the Valley. Thank you. Thanks for having us. We appreciate the support you guys saying nice things to us, makes us feel better about, at least me feel better about crying on TV.

Well, we really enjoy watching you guys and you guys have a special thing going. And again, it's not easy to be vulnerable and it's not easy to share personal stuff. but I think what you guys say goes a long way and it's been fun to watch you guys and we're excited to see more of you guys. So thanks for taking the time. Best of luck the rest of the season and get some rest.

Appreciate it. Thank you. All right, take care, guys. Thank you. Well, and if you miss the most recent episode of the Valley Persian style, we do have a rapid recap. So we pick back up in Palm Springs after Dennis the menace crashed the party.

It's a struggle, but they power through and shake their asses. Everyone is like, okay, I guess Dennis is here now. and we're all going to be nice to him, except Gigi. Then Dennis says Gigi is nothing and has made nothing, and they're off again. Adam thinks Gigi needs to set boundaries with him. Then they race cars. MJ won't drive because she's afraid of death.

RJ lost control and skidded the car, but he's okay because he's going to hook up with a hot waitress named Courtney to make Gigi jealous. Adam did Gigi's dirty work and kicks Dennis out of the house. Reza is over Sky in her hatred for the Valley. Gigi is like girl you're on a show called The Valley right now. Also, Sky is obsessed with Airwine, but she doesn't think she's snobby. Reza laughs in her face at this admittance. Gigi snaps on her.

Then Sky calls Gigi a piece of shit that is beneath her. I'm sure Gigi will take this very calmly. I mean, I don't want to like, like, clearly, Sky seemed wrong. About the Valley. But, like, why can she just not like the Valley? Thank you. This strikes a chord. Thank you.

This strikes a specific chord for me growing up in Los Angeles. Danny grew up in the Valley. And I will say, there is a thing about the Valley that, like, people used to, like, You live so far, the valley's so far, I don't want to go to the valley. Like, you come here. I'm certainly no L.A. in the story. But I feel like the valley has really upped its game over the past, say, 10 years.

We just got a great white. Maybe John and Vinnie's. Oh, I just went there for breakfast. Amazing breakfast. I think, you know, I think compared to other parts of L.A. Maybe 10 or 15 years ago, the valley was easily maybe the butt of jokes. Yeah, because it was like. Maybe they,

they, there wasn't quite glamorous, but like it's really up to its game. I agree. It's always been like the suburbs, but it was always kind of like, oh, if you can't afford to live on that side of the hill, you go and live in the valley,

where I'm like, I'm sorry, the real estate in the valley now is surpassing. Shit on the other side, and at least you get free parking. Am I the only one who calls it the valley in the city? Oh, yeah. I call the city like downtown L.A.

maybe. My thing about the valley is, Leah, I disagree with you. I think that when people live in the valley, you can't get them out of the valley sometimes. Because it has everything. Well,

No, no, now that I live in the valley, and I'm like, now that I live here. I'm not driving to the valley outside of work time. And I'm not getting an $80 ticket for being 10, five minutes passed by time on my meter because I went to your house. Okay. Do you know how many street cleaning tickets I got when I lived in the city on the other side of the hills? Sorry, I have a parking space at my apartment. I don't know that struggle. The valley is awesome and I didn't realize it until I moved here and I've lived here.

And now everybody better come to me. No, it's like. Mary, you're rooting for the side of the city that gave me a, parking ticket for cleaning when the street was on, when the city was on fire. Justin, you live in my neighbor. That side of, as someone who's going to convert to the valley, I see the pros and cons. I refuse.

I'm not going to retire to the valley just yet. So many pros. I will say I do actually kind of like Sky. I think she should have known the room and she was being pretentious in the moment, but I like her. I like what she's offering. I think she just needs to work on the delivery. Well, also just just.

Listen, there are people who just make better and smarter choices than others. Yes, okay. In life. Life's a journey of choices. If you think that you are one of those people who makes better choices, you just can't be the one, you can't be your biggest cheerleader. Better choices in regards to what? Anything, life, decision making, business decisions.

Like, is Sky making? Where Sky really lost me? Tannen's version of the jewelry conversation where Tannen's like, supporting her friend, buying her jewelry, buying tons of jewelry, and then Skies like, I'm giving you so many discounts.

That's why I said delivery, because like even the skincare or skin oil thing where it's like, I'm a skincare holic. I wouldn't do that with overpriced oils, but I'm also like, she could have rubbed it on her dog when her friend wasn't there.

You know, like I think she was just like, it's nice, I'm putting it on my dog. I think it's also partially just like even the need to feel better than people being like, I need to buy a house

Southern Beverly Hills or Bel Air where it's like your husband is literally sitting next to you saying it's not a good decision right now, which means you don't financially, that's not a smart move for you to do. But instead it's like, I need everybody to know. I just want a bigger house in a different zip code, not in the valley. And it's like even a bigger house in Belair is going to be astronomically more than the house that you have in the valley. An apartment in Bel Air. Thank you. So that's why I was like, it's the tone deafness for me. No, that's why I said like, know the room. Because like I do like Sky, but I think she's saying things around people that are, like, there's no way for it should

not be offensive. Also, justice for Trader Joe's. Literally. What she said, wouldn't a traitor? No, I'm just saying nobody mentioned that when they were going to. They were like, Rout, spons. She was talking about Airwomen. There's like 10 steps below Airwond. There's Gelsons. Yeah, there's. I was like nowadays, in today's economy.

Groceries are expensive everywhere. Yeah, exactly. My thing about Sky is like, there's a way to playfully make fun of the Valley. She's not making fun. And she's not making fun. She genuinely hates it. Like I love to make fun of the valley because I just down. She wants to be up high looking down on the valley. She did say the tissue thing and I was like, yeah, I love to make fun of the valley,

but just because like I think it's funny even though if no one else does. But like for her to like genuinely hate. I know, that's the funny thing. I'm here all the time is why I do it. But it's like for her, it's like, girl, you're on a show called the Valley. And who didn't Gigi say that? Yeah. I just, I love the fact that Sky is like, Gigi, you can't say.

smoke here and then she's like, I'm going to go smoke with you. Like, I think that's just like this is TV gold for me. It was a lot of fun to watch. Also, yeah, big fan of Amir and Natasha. I like that. I think that'll do it for today's episode. Thank you to our guest, Amira and Natasha, as well as Bailey Taylor. Also, don't forget, if you want to check us out

live on May 6, myself, my lovely wife, in the cast of the upcoming season of Temptation Island it's going to be scandalous, wacky, wild, and fun and live. And you can get tickets now. Get them while they're available. Go to our link in bio on our show description or just like our Instagram or something like that. Oh my God, Natalie, you're going to be so pregnant by then.

Whoa, yeah. Temptation Island. They're going to be doing body shots off of each other. And Natalie's just going to be like, yeah. I'm going to be like, my belly button is super out. Yeah. Do you think they'll ever bring a pregnant person on Tempitation? That's crazy.

No, it is crazy. I don't know. It is Temptation Island. That could be interesting. That could be an interesting curve. All right, well, we will see you next week. Bye bye.