The Viall Files - E1078 - The Valley w/ Golnesa "GG", Love Is Blind Premiere, Summer House, Below Deck & The Olympic Cheater

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

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extra hundred dollars the real real.com that's the real real real.com What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the va-va's reality recap edition. Joined by my, oh, I forgot to introduce myself. I'm Nick. Join by my wife, Natalie. That's me. Hello.

Hi. Hi. We have the household with us, a sweet boy, Justin, who did make an appearance on the couch yesterday after a two-year hiatus. It is his birthday today. It is. Happy birthday, Justin. He just is taking some time off and enjoying himself.

Yeah, celebrating. So Mary's on the couch. Yeah. Sorry to disappoint everybody. It's me. We love Mary. Blaz, home with the flu. Are you feeling any better?

I am feeling, I am feeling better today. Louis finally went back to school today. I'm feeling a bit better, but I'm probably still a bit contagious. I feel better. Yeah. This flu, not for the faint of heart, having a toddler and being pregnant thrown into the mix. Being pregnant and taking care of a toddler in general is like, this feels impossible. But then to double in with like, oh, I'm actually so sick and I can barely move.

And then they're like, Mama up. Mama up. Play. Mama play. Outside. And you're like, it's usually your kid getting you sick. So then they get better. Yeah. No, that's exactly what happened. Rude. And now you have energy. I don't. Well, we had a doctor's appointment yesterday.

Clean bail health. Nice. Congrats. The babies are babying. I really asked the dumbest questions to sue our doctor. What's the dumbest question you've ever asked to the doctor? I don't remember. But it's really like, how are you feeling about this situation?

Yesterday, he was like, because apparently between a certain amount of weeks, you're not supposed to fly when you're carrying twins because basically your body thinks your full term. Whoa. Oh, that's a lot. things people don't tell you about being pregnant. Well, you know, it's kind of like most people don't even know that information if they don't have twins. I mean, yeah, shocking to hear. But I was like, oh, okay, great.

She's like, yeah, you could go into preterm labor if you were to travel. Oh, my gosh. She's like, so we need to check your cervix before any long flights to make sure it's not, I mean, just the craziest amount of steps. I just know that apparently you're not supposed to smell cat poop when you're pregnant. Cat litter or something. Leah, I asked myself. sister about this. When you're pregnant? No, my sister, the OBGYN with a child. Oh, yes. She had no idea

of what you were talking about. Well, apparently that's a thing. Maybe there's something, I think, in their litter. I don't know. I'm not a cat person. Then he got it confused. And he asked our doctor and he's like, so is it true that she can't smell horse poop? And the doctor was like, what the fuck? Why is he worried about you smelling your horse? Yeah. But your doctor said, no, it's cat poop, cat litter? Yes, yes. For reference, this is according to the Google AI overview. So to take that with a grain of salt. It says pregnant women should avoid changing cat litter to prevent risk from toxoplasma, Gandhi,

a parasite in feces causing toxoplasmosis, which can cause severe fetal harm. That's what I tell Nick about Rivers Poopy diapers. I'm like, I can't change those because I'm pregnant. I did lie to Danien and said that it was dog poop. So for a while, he was eating up all of the dog poop. Nick is doing my like belly routine at night. Does Danny help you with that, Leah? Putting on like your belly oils and lotions and stuff. And by oils, he means oil.

Danny doesn't help me with my belly oils. But to be fair, I don't even help myself. I've been really bad about it. I just go to bed. No, and I honestly do feel that. It has, yeah, it has gotten to that point. Yesterday the clock hit 8 o'clock and I said, I need to go lay down. And I was laying on the couch. Time for you to call. go grab the oils and lock up and take the trash out and pick up the dog.

And I start my nightly chores. Wait, did we finally graduate to two cups of water at night? We still are sharing one large. Oh my God, we're still in love. But you're drinking for one, two, three. Four now. And River. She joins in two.

Oh, my God. Is it a 32 inch hydroflats? It's got to be 64. What's the cutest thing that Louis says? Opie. That's cute. To open. That's cute.

What's the cutest thing that River says? She's like, icy cold? Ice cold. Any drink. Any drink. It's icy cold. Because it's icy and it's cold. Our communal cup is now icy cold.

And now Nick will be like, do you want some icy cold before? Yeah, no, I just call it icy cold now. Are you now sharing your cup with River too? Yes. Oh, guys, she's backwashing all in there and you know it. Oh, I know. You should see her when we eat, like last night, we made tacos, and she, of course, is a girl like her own mother, and she likes to dinner. Natalie actually, Natalie made dinner last night.

Nice. I did make dinner last night. She is just like her mother, and she likes it. So we use a lot of sour cream on our tacos. And if she takes a sip of icy cold and there's a little bit of sour cream on top of that straw, Nick is like, River? Lick it again. Yeah, it has nothing other germs. I'm just disgusted by sour cream.

Yeah. He's like, take another sip river. I love it. It's not like grab an op can or like rinse off. He goes, lick it again. Get that off of that. Dada dip. Dada dip. Dita dip.

Then Nick does it wrong somehow. And she's like, no, da-da. No. Mama, that is your child. Like, I'll put her to bed and then I'll try to transfer. And sometime and she's just not ready. And she'd be like, no. No, da, da.

That's cute. I love when little kids are like, no. No. We're not doing that. She puts on my shoes all the time and she's like, bye mama, work. That car, work. I'm like, oh, you're getting in your black car and you're going to work. She's already a diva.

No, she is. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, she was carrying her little plastic toy phone this morning and she had it like on her hip. And I was like, is your phone in your pocket? And she's like, yeah. Okay. Cool. Well, we do have a fantastic episode lined up for you.

Lots of TV to talk about like Summer House. Summer House. We got Love is Blind that just dropped yesterday. We'll get into a little bit of episode one. But we're going to let you guys really dive in and watch those episodes. And we'll get to the meat of it next week as well. Also, we have Gigi. Gonesa.

Gonesa. From Valley Persian style joining us later this episode. And that is something I'm really looking for to. I'm really excited. I can't wait to see her in person. Did we ask her to bring some of those sex toys she's selling? For what? I just want to help a woman.

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Olympics! Who's still watching? I am. Yeah, we've had it on, you know, in the background as we're editing here and stuff. So as I'm walking. Well, the story that's sweeping. Sweeping the nation? Sweeping the world.

Because it's not even a Norwegian man. He's from Norway. He's a bi-athlete, which is the one where they shoot and ski? A competitor in a Nordic skiing event that combines cross-country skating and rifle shooting. Rifle shooting. There you go. So he took third in the world, which was not impressive for Mary.

Bronze. Yeah. You can do better. It's like if he won the gold, I would have been okay with this. But he confessed in his post interview that he cheated on his girlfriend. And that he feels like one of those moments where he's like, I got to get her back somehow, you know. He was like, this is the grandest thing I can do. I don't think it was a confession to her.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a proclosure. of accountability, I think, on his part. Like, he was like, how can I show her that I'm remorse? Oh, I'll just, when I win my Olympic medal. I'll tell everyone in the world that I did this to her. So what he said, speaking to a Norwegian journalist, he said,

there's someone I wanted to share this with who might not be watching today. Six months ago, I met the love of my life and the most beautiful and kindest person in the world. Six months. And three months ago, I made the biggest mistake and cheated on her. Yeah, they were only together for six months. You cheated in three months? Yeah. You're only together for three months.

Yeah, the Olympian explained that he had told his girlfriend about his infidelity a week ago. He went on to say that it had been the worst week of his life before tearfully declaring, I had a gold medal in my life. I only have eyes for her. I don't know what I want to achieve by saying this. I wish I could share it with her. The Olympian went on and say he wanted to be a good role model, but that I have to admit when I make mistakes. The ex-girlfriend did respond.

The ex-girlfriend, yeah, they are no longer together. She said, it is hard to forgive. Even after a declaration of love in front of the whole world, I did not choose to end up in the situation, and it hurts to have to be in it. We have been in contact, and he is aware of my views on this. That's cold. Do we feel like he would have won gold had he not been going through this a week ago? Maybe.

Maybe his focus was elsewhere. True. But then he was like, I still have to win something because I have to give a speech. I have to say it publicly. I feel like this is maybe a lesson in like Don't share too much information When you're like adrenaline is like at an all time Yeah

You know I mean he's probably not gonna get her back No Yeah And now going forward he'd be like well I mean honestly going forward Assuming they don't get back together on future first dates He'll never have to like he'll be like well You know have you ever cheated

You know Like actually have video Yeah I'm going to say, yeah, we Google. Look up Olympic, my bronze medal speech, you'll hear all about it. It's crazy that he tied that directly to his bronze medal acceptance thing. Imagine her friend group chat right now. Yeah.

It's kind of like, do you, have you ever seen people who like, I feel like these used to be a thing, videos of girlfriends with the guys who had cheated on them, like going out to the mall or like they write it on their car, like, I'm a cheater. And then they like have to wear a shirt or like hold a sign. that says like I cheated on my girl and they like walk together through the mall and it's supposed to be like this like learning moment. That's giving humiliation. I feel like that's not the way to do it. No.

That's like Dunst cap. It's like 20. It's like 2016. Shame. Yeah. That is very 2016. It's very 2016. So he was like I thought we were back in 2016.

It's like he was going to 2016 again. I will say there would be a small. part of me that would really love this that was the ex-girlfriend. Oh my God, no, she's loving this. You're so on his mind. No, like he's obsessed with me.

Are you kidding? At the Olympics. She will find a way on future first dates always be like, what's the craziest thing ever happened to you? Well, it's so true. Funny you ask. Two truth and a lie.

What's the biggest declaration of love you've ever received? Just on like a world front at the Olympics. Like winning. They're like, I was like, I was like, the most talked about person in the 2026 Olympics. Are you an Olympian? No. No. Truly. And honestly, in 2026 terms, six months, that's a situation. That's a situation. Literally. Literally. All he had to do was not commit. Yeah. Early. Pull a West Wilson. Just be like, hey, we weren't,

we were on a break. We were just, I thought we were just talking. We're just trying to think about. We were just talking. Like, we were exclusive, but you're not my girlfriend. Sorry, I got the. Olympics coming up. I got to focus. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I have a question. No, no. Zach's here.

Zach is here. If this girl called in to ask Nick next week and said, hey, my ex who cheated on me professed his love at the Olympics, what would you tell her? Well, my first question is like, what do you want? Do you want to be back? Yeah, like, do you want to get back together with them? She likes him. I don't know if she does like him. I mean, she's like even after a declaration of love in front of the whole world.

That's just a fact. She's stating a fact. Oh, no, she's saying it is hard to forgive even after. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like, that was a great shout out, but like doesn't negate what he did. She ends it with we have been in contact and he's aware of my views on this. I read something that the same gentleman in 2023 at like the world company, you know, because not the Olympics, Olympics only happens every four years, but every year there's like a world. Byathlon.

And apparently he was disqualified for accidentally discharging his gun in a hotel room. Oh. This is all to say. I think this man might be a little extreme. He was banned from a World Cup mass start race after an accidental rifle discharge in his hotel room. He seems maybe just like a little impulsive. Yeah, he might be an Aries.

For sure. There's a 99% chance that she has no interest in him. Yeah, he's giving, this is Aries behavior right here. I don't even know if he is, but to get bronze. Mon's medal in the Olympics, not gold, and still be like, I did that. Let me announce that I cheated on this girl to get her back because I think that'll work. And then it doesn't work. That seems like it is a good at least.

Listen, you don't get to be an Olympian by not taking risk and not going big. Exactly. Oh. Mm-hmm. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Listen, he knocked himself down and then he did get back up. He got knocked out and he got back up again. Love is blind.

It is out. It's rocking and rolling. We have some very sad. breaking news that just came in. Unfortunately, James Vanderbich just passed away at a very young age of 48, which is devastating and shocking. You know, like when you hear about a celebrity, I mean, he announced he had cancer a couple years ago, some time ago. And just with, I think, the advancement in medicine, I think I'm always optimistic about, you know, people's ability to fight it, but it just goes to show that's still a long way to go. I mean, you know, you, you heard,

about his diagnosis, but I was very, I mean, honestly, shocked. Yeah. Devastating. It's just sad. I think it's never not going to be jarring to see people that you know are on the younger side of things or like people you grew up with on TV, like passing. Because I never really got really personal with things back in the day because it's just like, oh, like I didn't really watch that or like my mom loved them.

But like now it's like people that I loved and it's like it hits different. Father, husband, just overall good guy. I never really met him, but I did a couple years back go to a Packers Chargers game. And we were in a private area and he was in the area. So I got the, I was in this vicinity. I thought that was pretty cool. That was a few years back. But thoughts and prayers to his family in this difficult time.

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We, so far, so good. Yeah. Yeah. There's definitely some people you're going to hate. It's certainly set in Ohio.

It is certainly set in Ohio. There's really only one in particular you're really going to hate. Somebody was also from Minneapolis, so I was like, what's... Stephen. You're really going to hate Stephen.

Yeah. He's just like a tough. He's, Ooh, he's tough to just listen to. He's getting spoiled by his mom. Was this the way? Late bloomer. Was this one that said he like goes for looks first and he's trying to change that?

That sounds like something he'd say. Yeah. Because, yeah, I was like, I remember being rubbed the wrong way by head. It was the guy rolling his eyes at. Emma. Yeah, you just, you guys is going to need to watch. Yeah. I'm intrigued by like Emma and who, the two guys that she's talking to or I'm like, or the

one guy where it was kind of wanting kids, like where they had a lot of things in common. But then it was kind of like her being like, you're giving me another point of view that I, to give me something to think about without making me feel bad for my views. I thought that was like really interesting. So I wonder if they'll actually make it. I think it was like Emma and Mike. I think Victor is the biggest sweetheart ever. Yes.

Like so kind. So loving. I love him. I think he's going to be a fan favorite for a show. I like him and who he's talking to. Me too. And the end of the episode, I was like, okay. I can get behind this.

Yeah. Apparently, I read something this morning. I'm trying to find the article. But apparently, the first couple that gets engaged at the end of episode one, they don't send them to Mexico with the rest of the group. They send them to Maui. Like, they put them, they send them. Yeah. Because they're first?

Like, they separate them. Or they were like, they're not good TV, but we still want to like celebrate that they got engaged. So we'll just send them to Maui with their camera crew. Yeah, here we go. The creator Chris Collin tells E Entertainment Weekly there's an absolutely no way we could do it with seven couples in Mexico. Oh, so is this a numbers game. Oh. Yeah.

So they were like, this person is not like super dramatified. We're going to just like still celebrate their love and send them on a trip. But like with no cameras. That's ideal. We're not going to pay for production to follow. Wait, that's kind of like that's an icon. Because I make, yeah, like I would want that.

Like I would be private and have my own vacation paid for. get to know this person on my own terms and not have any like outside interaction from the other Love is Blind people until we all come together at some point. And you're in Maui. Wait, are you guys talking about Christine and Victor? They don't go to Maui. They go to somewhere in California. Yeah, I'm sorry, not Maui.

Malibu. Malibu. Literally Malibu. Sorry, guys. Can't read. Can't read. What's the difference? Maui and Maui and Malibu?

An eight-hour flight, perhaps. One's in Hawaii. Both beautiful. For sure. For sure. I mean, there's very different. Very different. Yeah.

I mean, you can't go to Dukes in the valley. Yeah. Yeah. It is giving. Well, and they seem very, very sweet. And sweet sometimes equals. Boring. Sometimes.

That's okay. Yeah. As I said, as long as they're coming back into the mix. then by all means, you guys lucked out. No, it's so crazy that, like, one of the greatest compliments and criticisms you can often offer someone on reality TV is how uninteraining they are on TV,

which most people who go on TV will see that as a huge criticism. Yeah, that's like you're just normal. I know that because I've said that about people and I realized that they took that to great offense. Yes. Even though I didn't mean it, I was just like, yeah, I don't know,

like you seem really normal and stable and like probably like a really healthy. What are you trying to get me fired, Nick? You're in therapy. You're just self-aware. You seem very regulated emotionally, not reactive. They're already picking a fight with their husband to like come home for a storyline. I would go to you for advice, you know?

But like, yeah, I don't know. I kind of just like not interested. When Stephen is like, she's trying to open up about the scars. Uh-huh. And he's like, well, it seems like you want me to change a subject. So like, what was your first kiss like? Like mine was magical. And the time you lost your virginity,

oh, God, it was so good. We woke up the next morning. We did it all over the place. It was like, uh, okay. Any guy who reacts about loving the notebook, and by the way, great movie. I do enjoy the notebook. It's a great movie.

On the first date, when you sound like you are like Nicholas Sparks' biggest fan and- He's for the streets, baby. And you're really just into the love story. Yeah. Need I remind you. And it is available on Valafal's Plaza, plus deep in the catalog.

I break down one of my favorite episodes I've ever done. Me and my best friend Kyle break down the notebook. Nice. We remind people that Noah asked for Noah threatened to kill himself.

Yeah. He hung from that. To get the first date. Ferris wheel. Yeah, he did. Then he forced her and to lie into the middle of the street. Well, on upcoming traffic game.

Oncoming traffic came. Maybe it's good romance is dead. And Noah, he was a fuck boy. Yeah, he was Ryan Gosling. Yeah. He was just like, I don't know, what am I supposed to do with his face? You don't want to date me? Mild is fuck.

Your husband's at war? Anyway, if a guy's just like, oh my God, I'm just like, But he built her, her house. My, my. With blue shutters and a wrap around porch so I can paint. And they came out with a shotgun to anyone who is like, yo, can I buy your house? His response was like, I'm going to kill you.

If you. Love makes us crazy sometimes. Yeah. Anyway, yeah. Steven's a big fan. Big fan of the name. I'm sure he is. That's a big red flag.

Yeah. He seems like somebody that watched that movie also starring Ryan Gosling where he was like the like love expert or whatever crazy stupid love. Oh, I love that movie. I like this and I'm going to say this and you know what girl my favorite movie makes you cry. No, I know. That's such a crazy.

I love that movie and like you watch that movie and you're just like, oh, Ryan Gosling is so cool. And you're like, you think to yourself, what? fucking loser would go to a nightclub by themselves every night in a suit. Yeah. Yeah. I remember we watched that kind of recently and you asked me that question. And I was like, you know, it is weird.

Yeah. You're watching the movie and you're like, oh my God, he's so suave. And the deal like, wait. This guy's soft. Do you not have any friends? Yeah. You got to hang out with recently separated Steve Carrell and his little sketcher's sneaker.

You didn't have time to change out of your suit Leaving the office Heading to the club? Do you only know one bar? And why are you wearing a suit? Have some variation. Yeah. It's Tuesday.

Jeans and a t-shirt, bro. If you're gonna be a Ryan Gosseling in a rom-com, be a Ryan Gosling in La La Land. Just have a deep love of jazz And the woman that will never leave back. Have you seen the video of him recently throwing a football? No. Well, definitely AI.

Yeah. It was? You think he actually threw it that far in the middle of that donut? Hold on. Ryan Gosling. I don't know if it was AI, but I'm pretty sure he didn't do that.

No, I think he did. No, I think he did. I don't know what you guys are talking about. Mary? I believe I'm pulling it up right now. If he did, I apologize, Ryan. Like, that looks real. That looks real.

That looks real. And also, he looks really. I'm going to kind of, I don't believe anything I see with my eyes. Did the football disappear on a shot? No. No. It doesn't. It's in the shot.

the whole time. They zoom in. Let me see it again. I don't know. I feel like they could do that with AI. I'm just saying like that ball. But he like turns around and has like a face. Like a, uh,

face. Oh, he acts? I just see so many videos that are like AI. Yeah. Oh my. Zoom. Oh, you see how the football goes out of frame? He threw it so high.

I don't know. No, that's fake. That the camera. Sorry. Ryan Gossily. Why are you so jealous of Ryan? Because he clearly missed his calling. I can do better than Ryan Gosling is apparently throw a football.

Yeah, I actually saw you throw one in the backyard the other day and you broke all of the candles in the backyard. They fell off the shelf. That's called the Bullseye. I think I have it on video. You do. Wait, listen. River went to go get it.

What is that, Riv? Good job. Football. Oh. So, yeah, he's so much better than Ryan Gosley. I didn't say so much better. I didn't see Ryan hit a car, hit a window. All I'm saying, that video.

Anyways, check out Love is Blind Season 10 streaming now on Netflix. We'll dive into it next week and really get it in the weeds. It's so good. Layla how many episodes of you from Leah? I've seen all six that have dropped. It's really, really good. You think it's better than last season? For me, listen, I like the pods,

but it's not my favorite part of the show. Same. It's when they start going on their vacation. I am kind of potted out a little bit. Same. And love my Netflix family. Love everyone over there. But I am very distracted in the pods

with all of the lighting orbs. Yeah. Like, so, I feel like it's more than normal. And I am, like, most of the time it's covering their face. And I'm like, why are there so many? Why are you shooting through the light? Yeah. Like, just suit them.

The production design and the cinematography this season, they really, they really went for it. Took some liberties. You could say. Yeah. I do know in my experience in making reality television that many of the producers and people who work on that show, you know, some do. Some grew up and were like, I wanted to reality TV. Many went to, like, film school and things like that. and, you know.

They have a vision. They have a vision, and they want to flex those creative muscles as much as possible. And, you know, like sometimes in certain shots, you're limited. And so, you know. You do what you can. You do it you can. I, the one last thing I'll say about love is blind is I've never felt more seen than when someone, like, realized someone else liked the song Mr. Brightside and was like, this must be true love. Come on.

Leah. It was like, that's the psychosis I'm under. From what you've seen, do you feel confident that we're going to get a full-blown wedding, like marriage by the end of this? Yeah, I do. I'm hopeful that there will be at least more. You know, great question, because we got none last season, and it would be kind of not great. But I feel like six episodes, and we kind of knew.

Like, we were like, mm, the only two people were kind of banking on is maybe these two, and now she's accusing him of being an alcoholic, so I don't think this is going don't work out. Oh, you thought Anton and what's their name? I don't know, but I was just saying as an example where it just kind of felt like we didn't really have a lot to go off of. And then when you'd be like, oh, maybe, it'd be like, oh, maybe Megan and Jordan. Oh, Megan and Jordan was the ones.

Yeah. Megan and Jordan could have, like, figure their lifestyle stuff out. I could have seen them, but everyone else I was like, no. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll dive into it even more next week. Summerhouse is upon us. Really?

You know what? Episode two? I hate that a divorce really tickles your. interest in a reality TV show. Yeah, that's drama. Yeah, I know. You know what I mean?

And I think it's not so much, well, I mean, maybe because we know beforehand that they're getting divorced, but like, they didn't know that. You know what I mean? So I think that's what's also interesting is that like, because you wonder. Because Kyle said it this episode, he was like, I can't even imagine my life without her. Like, we're not, we're not, when he was sitting down with Carl and Carl's like, I don't want you to be like me and Lindsay. He was like, I just, we're not even in that place. Like, it's just, you know, we need to figure out and get on the same page, but I couldn't imagine my life without her. So I'm like, I don't think he really thought that this was going to be end game.

Well, we do have a rapid recap for those of you who don't remember or didn't watch the second episode of Summerhouse. Amanda doesn't get why Kyle is mad about her not even skinny dipping. Ben is sunburned, but also he's blushing because the girlies are flirting. Kyle storms off in a fight with Amanda. Sierra acknowledges that bringing her animals was a good move by West. He knew what he was doing, which could mean, question mark, question mark, question mark, no, unless question mark, question mark, who's to say? Question mark, question mark, question mark. During the week, Lindsay returns.

Gemma is rocking and Lindsay is powering through her breakup like a boss bitch. Also, Kyle called to trauma dump about Amanda to Lindsay. So, of course, she told Amanda. Also, Amanda brings up that there's a rumor he went home with a fan. She's sick of this shit. Carl and Kyle get into the weeds of the Amanda stuff. He apparently started DJing because he stopped taking a salary at Loverboy. I have thoughts about this.

Yeah. The next week in Sierra brings her friend, Mia, she seems gorge. the main drama is that Kyle and Amanda don't like each other right now. Kyle thinks it's like being married to a cactus. Sierra is trying to be less rigid in her relationship with her mom. Kyle apologizes to the house for being a dick to Amanda.

Amanda is like, maybe apologize to me for being a dick to me. Then Kyle storms off again. So that's it. Yep. That's your mouth. Shut your beautiful mouth. I'm not speaking for me. Let him cook. And please feel free

to speak up for anyone else who has an opinion on this. But the implication that you smoke weed and somehow your libido isn't where it needs to be. Not right that we're going with this, but like, okay, that's what that would plague you. Well, Kyle was basically the like, she smokes every night and like, I'm not getting laid.

Yeah, because that's Kyle just like not taking responsibility and blaming whatever, because last time it was, she doesn't help with lover boy. All she does is lay around and not do anything. And this time it's like now she does to smoke weed and like doesn't wear. I'm just saying like a little THC and a little LLVE. Yeah.

It's a nice little combination. All I'm saying is like if you are high and also attracted to the person you're with, things are kind of high. It hits. It hits. It works. Some say it helps. Yeah. That's all I wanted to say.

But also weed affects people differently and you can see different kinds of weed, you know, and she's like, I'm going to get a good night's rest. The fact that Kyle will not take any responsibility for the reason why his wife doesn't want to have sex with him. And he was probably literally coming home at 4 a.m. And he's like, why the fuck she asleep? Like, what? I just got home. Amanda. She took one edible at 9 p.m.

I'm no therapist. And I'm certainly no couples therapist. But there was a key phrase in what Kyle said that just explained the entire dynamic. He's just like, I know I go out. I know I DJ. I knew this. But when I do come home and when I do give her a. attention, she doesn't reciprocate. It's like, great. She's not on your schedule. And like the one time a

week, you show up and give her two fucking seconds of attention. She's not ready to party. Like, oh, I'm so sorry, Kyle. But it's like crazy that it just does not register with him. Not at all. He also said something that kind of like explained what Amanda says where it's like he was like, I was losing money by going out to promote lover boy, but then with DJing, I'm now getting paid to. But it's like, so you made the choice to spend your money, Kyle. We know you get brand deals. To go out when your wife is asking you to stay home and spend time with her. But you were losing money in the process. And now you're justifying DJing because you're making money. But it's still, you're still ground zero. He sounds like the dad with like three kids who he was like, this is more than I bargained for, who's like

moonlighting a second job at a grocery store at night just to make. And, you know, he sounds like, It ends meet. Yeah. And it's like, no, Kyle, you're partying. Mm-hmm. You're also a famous TV celebrity. Yeah. That part.

You're getting paid per episode. Yep. Yep. I see Lover Boy doing collabs all the time. You're an OG. So check's probably pretty high. Mm-hmm. It just goes to show where I'm like,

Kyle wants to be like validated no matter what he does, but then wants to bring down everybody else when it's like, when he thinks that his image is being played with. But it's like, you did this to yourself, sir. Yeah. The idea that you're sitting there talking. to a group of guys at a table being like, oh, Amanda, the second she's right behind him, and he's like, I feel bad. I didn't. I said, and it's just like, because you enjoy talking

shit about your wife because it makes you look better to everyone else, but you don't want to talk shit to your wife because you don't want to look bad to your wife. But it's also like the second that she comes over, heads up, Jesse, heads up, heads up, heads up is what he says. And then KJ being like, dude, I always got your back, bro. Like, always here for you. It's like, first of all, why would you say that. Like, we, like, I don't know. Of course Amanda's going to be like, what, what does that mean? Why does he, like, you think he did on purpose? You do? I kind of feel. Then he's married to Amanda. Like, it's just so backwards. It's so bizarre that he's complaining to this guy who he's literally just met. Derely. Yeah. Amanda's like, what is it that you were saying? Like, I'm going to find out at some point. And he couldn't say anything. It's like, you can't even be like, oh, I was just like venting to like how dirty our apartment is. And you smoke a lot of weed and just like calling you.

You never have sex with me. Terrible life. You'll pick up because you're supposed to clean and you don't clean. And so I've tried to get your mom to come help and you won't even like to let your mom come clean. So calling your mom to beg her to come pick up after her is crazy work. Like whether you did it or not or whether you just said that or you actually, it's all crazy to me. I'm like, so you can't talk to your wife, but you're going to go tell on her to her mom. Yeah.

Grow up. Yeah. Grow the fuck up. We will talk about the Valley Persons style obviously come. up when when when gigi gets here but i'm watching the valley persian style and i got to say this lineup of men it's seemingly the best men in terms of like how they are with their partners in bravo would you agree disagree yeah i mean i don't think we have that has i don't know that we've had a cast with so many men besides yeah the original valley you know there's it doesn't seem like a lot of

toxicity honestly there seems to be a lot of like beautiful relationships like literally last night's episode was kind of about like, you know, defending your partner, your wife. And then like, Bomchad was like, he didn't, but we kind of understand why. But even then, he was like, yeah, I should have done that. Right. You know, which is like the exact opposite of what we see on so many Bravo shows. Yeah. When it comes to the men who are in relationships with women.

Right. And I'm just curious outside. If you were to rank the best men when it comes to the best men who are partners, How would you say that? Best male partners and Bravo. How would you rank them? Oh.

I feel like that's kind of hard because it's like my first thought goes like Maricio, but then I was like rumors of infidelity throughout their relationship. Now they're not together. I'm like, and a lot of the shows don't really focus on the relationships or like the marriages between couples.

It's like the husband's always like the added bonus. Well, and housewives. Yeah, but that's amazing. But there's not, this is like the first show where I feel like we actually have like couples that have been married off of television. No, but you have Summer House. Kyle's not on that list.

You know what I mean? To be honest, and I'm like, I really don't feel like we have had good examples of marriages on Bravo in the sense. Not even marriages. Like Carl. Like Lisa Renon and Harry Hamlin? I put Carl up there. Carl seems like a good one. But Carl's not a husband.

I don't even mean husband. Just like a good guy. Carl now. Marriage potential. Then I don't know. We like see him back in his relationship with Lindsay and it's like, ugh, or like the word. Marcus twin season too. You could critique Carl and Lisey's relationship, but I don't know, maybe I, it's,

Carl's just a reformed fuckboy though. And like he's and, and, but you're talking about doing the work. Like not just like, but fuck, you know, like for West, I think West incomplete grade. Because we haven't really seen him be a boyfriend. I'm not talking about a guy who was like, you know, how he dates and how he casually dates. It's like, yeah, he's a fuck boy. Whatever. It's just like he's.

It's not unethical. Like the him and Sierra, it's like, you know, we all have opinions about that. but clearly the lines were blurred in terms of like were they in relationship expectations. And then like that's harder to grade how someone is and how they treat their partner if they're not actually a partner. I'm just talking about like the men on Bravo often seem insecure. They seem to attack their partner and, you know, verbally, you know, they don't seem to want to show up for their partner. Yeah. You know, things like that.

But the men, the men on Valley Persian style seem like really solid dudes. Big fan. Amir and Natasha, I love the way that they communicate with each other. I'm like, but that's what I'm saying. I don't think you see a lot of that of like a loving relationship. Like healthy masculinity. Yeah. Yes. A lot of unhealthy masculine and Bravo, other that rally Persian style really seems to bring it. And I think it's also because like these men like weren't like pining to be on reality television. So it's not like a jacks or like, like, like, Tom Sandoval like creating a storyline or like, you know, knowing what to do. It's like I feel like they just were dedicated to their marriages and a camera happens to be there versus like, oh, I'm going to be married. I'm going to ruin my marriage because of cameras here. Which is kind of what the valley should be, no.

Like the thesis of the idea of the valley is just these relationships that have matured and now you get to see what they're like as people get a little older and their relationships get more serious. But I think that's kind of the difference where I was like the valley, the original valley, like it kind of feels like they're all coming off of another TV show so they know what's expected of them. So it's like especially somebody like Jacks, it's like Jackson will throw his wife under the bus before, you know, being a stand-up guy and missing a scene, you know,

where these guys are just like, these are our relationships, this is what marriage is like, this is what we go to dinner, this is what our group, friend group is like, you know. Luke is a good one, actually. Very sweet. Very sweet. And personable. Well, as you guys know, we are really focused on our health right now, and that includes making sure Jeff and Steve are feeling their best, too. Jeff and Steve, we're constantly itching and we learned that isn't normal dog behavior. It's actually a sign of allergies. Just like humans, dogs need. probiotics to strengthen their gut health and calm and overactive immune system. That's why we use

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Oh, mine are like from there's like checkards colored in from when I was in like science class board coloring with my pen. And it's like, do they fit true to size? I'm like, I've had mine for so fucking long. I have no idea. Are they not in vote? I think they, I think the checkered slip on vans will always be in vogue. I think they'll always be a staple, but the clean ones, I don't know. Well, if anyone's recently bought a pair of vans, checkered slip on.

Checker's slip on bands. I feel like that checkered slip on vans is the cadence that, like, feels better in that. Do they, are they true to size? I say they're true to size. Converse or not. They're a size below. Like, I wear 11 sneakers, but a 10 converse. Interesting.

There was a report last week. Said something about that Gen Z is the first generation to be dumber than its predecessor. I would agree with that, yeah. Judging by a lot of the people I love and are dear and close to me, some of them. Not just as general. The internet has made us lazier. Yeah. And now everyone is an expert based off of like some TikTok they watched.

My grandfather, I remember as a kid, I would ask him a question and he would be like, Okay, let's go get this textbook. He was a psychologist. He was like, let's go into my office and get a textbook and let's find out the answer. And now, sorry, grandpa. Now everyone's like, you know what, I know. I know. I just, I watched.

Yeah, I read books then and I still read books now. Well, I would probably assume the sous chef of Below Deck might be in this category. She does seem like a really cool hang and a fun girl. And I, that was so me, her being like, I can't take anymore. getting yelled at I think. Like that was very relatable.

Her going at the end of the episode to Captain and she was like it's so toxic down there and it's like he's a chef, of course it is. Forget it.

Okay. But like the toxicity is coming from your incompetent and he is just trying. No, no. It's coming from the heat of the galley. I imagine being hot

and also being yelled at and trying to make decisions. And also trying to be nice while somebody's asking you a dumb question and trying to not say the dumb question. Basically accusing him of being toxic.

But he also is like, hey, if I pick on you, that means I love you, you know, and I just don't take it. He's, and he does call her babe, you know, there's some endearing moments. I think it's like sometimes when you have a guy like that, you really just got to run with the bit and not take anything personally. I feel like you have to give it back to him. Yeah. You know, when he was like, you should have frozen this ice cream.

Then it's like, well, why didn't you? Yeah. Why am I doing it then? You know, you have access to a freezer as well. If you have such strong opinions about the dessert, maybe you should have done it, chef. A big takeaway from the episode is that when a man was grinding on Brittany, one person took out her phone to record it.

And that person's name is Meredith Marks. Yeah, she did. I just thought that was interesting. Good for her. It was interesting because obviously we're slap dab in the middle of Brittany being like, I saw a TikTok of Seth with the mistress. And then, of course, here come. lovely deck hands being like time for a strip t's lap dance and of course only take the single

ladies heather and brittany the second that that man pushes brittany's chair back from that table meredith has never whipped her phone out so fast and i feel like maybe that was the reason that jared remember when he was like they all called yeah and said that she was flirting with everyone i feel like maybe he got a video i think he got a video i think meredith cinema video and he was Like, by the way, speaking of Brittany and Jared's breakup, remember how we talked about it on Tuesday's episode of Reilly Recap? Turns out he didn't know. What do you mean? Found out via Instagram. So like via the caption. I told you. She said, Jared, goodbye. It was to him. It was like it was like a metaphor or whatever. It was like I've blocked him. I'm moving on. And this is how I don't know. Look for it. Yeah. What was his response? It was like, well, this is a little bit. Well, this is a. weird thing to wake up to. Oh my God. I mean, maybe it was fake. I don't know.

I mean, I see a lot of things online in the Bravo universe that I believe is real for five minutes and I'm being told as fake. Wait, that would be crazy. What a wild way to break up with someone. I mean, she's amazing. No, that's iconic. That's amazing.

Because it's like if anyone does deserve to be blindly broken up with. Yeah. I don't know. It's Jared Osman. It's literally like the comparison of the Olympics. It's like, would you rather have your ex cheat on you win? metal and declare his love for you anyways or would you rather be broken up with on the internet by a Facebook post okay I don't see I don't see Jared's comment on this but I do want to read some of my personal favorites someone said are you putting him down king princess said okay

work the hashtags in it were hashtag real love hashtag goodbye hashtag broken hashtag I'll always love you hashtag break you I'll always love you hashtag it Anyways, I don't think I've ever seen a person like her. Pretty baby never changed. One of the kind. All right, well, up next we have Gol Nessa, also known as Gigi for all you Shaw fans. And she joins us next to talk about all things the Valley Persian style. And we can't wait.

Gigi, welcome to the show. I love the, we're all in hoodies. We are. Yeah. We are. We're promoting our new merch. What do you think? How's your heart?

How's your heart? How is your heart? Is it a medical question or a psychological question? Psychological. Honestly, either or. Yeah. How ever you feel like you want to answer? My heart's psychologically fine right now.

Okay. My heart would like a little bit of, I don't know, a little bit of it like the weight of a man on top of it. Hey. It's been a while, a long while, actually, about over a year or so. Okay. To Dennis. Nothing much.

Dennis is not. Single as a pringle and I am way too old to have the random, flings. Well, that was kind of my next question because, if you don't mind me saying, I feel like if you really want it to, you could. So it's more like, I'm sure you're being selective. Well, I'm sapiensexual. I'm very sapiensexual. So it takes a lot of brain juice for me to get my juices flowing. And so sapiosexual means you're attracted to people's intelligence. Yes. Yes. So I can't just. Really large. Be like, that's the one. No, I need to. Is there anybody that piques your interest or like that

you have a crush on intellectually? No. No, not one. I mean, we live in L.A., so I think it's a little difficult to find the intellectuals in a city like this. And then I'm back on TV again. So then I don't really know exactly what the intentions are, but it's the city of dreams. And, you know, they're all in the dream of the industry. So it's like, uh, but because of Jeff Lewis, I went and bought an iPad because I'm a Samsung person. And I got riot. Yeah. Oh. Wait, Ryder is only allowed on Apple products.

They won't, they won't, they won't approve me. I think they will. You know, honestly, I think they are only on Apple. Like, you need to give recommendations and things and it says give us access to your contacts. And I was like, I'm not doing that. Absolutely not. Yeah. That's weird.

I thought you just like gave a couple names of like people you knew that were on there or something. You just have to like link your Instagram or something. I did. But then it says, um, right? Raya needs access to your contacts to see if you have to give referrals or references. And I was like, that's just bizarre. You declined that. I mean, do you know someone at Raya?

I used to. Oh, yeah. He actually couldn't delete his account. It's probably your account's probably still booming on Raya. No, it is like a gym membership, though, I will say. Hard to get out. It is hard to. Which gym, though?

I've never. The hardest gym to get out. The box is different than, you know, like L.A. Fitness. or something, right? Goals. Which gym are we talking? Any of the difficult ones. Because, yeah, I did find that when you turned it off, you can turn it off and be like, I don't want to be active.

And then you'd have people be like, yo, saw you on Rye. I'm like, what? And I got to go. Why? You weren't supposed to see me on there? Do you see me right? I will say, I don't know. I don't think you're really missing out.

Yeah. A lot of, a lot of hotties. Yeah. A lot of DJs, soccer players, athletes, actors. Nothing you probably haven't seen in L.A. Where does anyone in L.A. go to find someone a perspective? Like, honestly, this is an honest-to-God question. Well, there is the dating app, The League, which is like very Raya-esque, but less of the famous artistic people and more of the business professional fancy pants people.

What's it called? The League. The League. Yeah. Oh. And it's an app? I believe so. I think it still exists.

I haven't... Does it still exist? So it's like... I don't know. How old is this thing? I'm out of the loop? Well, I'm bad out of the loop. Okay, it's huge news.

It still exists. It's also available on Google Play. So I could be a... Yeah, you know, it's just switch phones. Yeah, and so you can get matched with some business executives. Okay. Some... A lot of MBA people.

A lot of... Yeah. They like them younger. I'm 45 this year, so that won't work for me. It's crazy. You look so... You guys are all shaking your head. You guys are supposed to support me on this.

No, that's not. You look great. That's what you're thinking of my head. No, that's unbelievable. I was like, I don't understand what you're trying to say. Yeah, I also was like, I think she accidentally said 45. Like, I'm not going to like call her out on it. But I think she said the wrong number.

She said, mad, man. Yeah. I'll give it a try. I'll give it a try. That's crazy. We're both 45. Are we? Yeah.

Are you 81? 80. Yeah. I'm going to be 45 this year. Oh, you're rounding up. Yeah. What a confident soul. I've never done that.

Way up. I'm not until November, so I don't know why. I'm the day before my birthday. If you're like, how old are you? I'm like 44. Really? I'm not like almost. Tomorrow I will be. No, they're like, when's your birthday?

Like in five minutes. But I'm 44. I'm 44. How has been back on TV been for you? It's been awkward and awkwardly comfortable. if that makes sense. It was sort of like a bicycle I fell off of a long time ago, and you got a little hurt and you thought,

I don't want to ever get back on the bicycle again, but you're back on it and you're even better than you were before. So it's different. I have a son now, and I feel like I'm much more hyper aware of my actions. I know I want him to go to great schools. I mean, but then I have anger issues. So that kind of creeps in sometimes. But I just, I'm definitely a little bit more aware.

now than before. So other than your just more bigger sense of awareness, how has been a mother changed your life? Oh, in every way possible. I have a very new level of understanding of people and patience for people. I feel like I can look at my son and understanding that I chose this difficult upbringing by choosing a donor and, you know, having a child alone and doing that is already creating this psychological journey for him. And I look at everybody and everyone has a story in their household that causes them to be who they are on their journeys. So I definitely feel like I sort of have a little bit more compassion for people and more

patience in order to have that compassion, if that makes sense. Yeah. You're such a dynamic character and very expressive. And in my experience being on reality TV, that sometimes can allow other people editing the show. to craft narrative that, like, may, you know, I think the average reality TV star feels like you only see a snippet of them. How do you feel maybe misrepresented from the person you are, from the person we get to see on TV? I think every reality star wants to complain about the power of editing, but at the end of the day, we are still humans, we're not robots on reality shows. And if we see something, that means you did that.

So whether the next moment got, you know, cut off and it went into another scene, that's a different thing. But what we did is what was documented and is what's shown. So it's a little difficult, you know, when we don't see the thousands of hours of us hanging out. But we get reunions. We get interviews like this. We get to tell our stories, you know, so that's what we got. Well, we recently had the trip to Palm Springs, the blow up of sky. We had Reza on not too long ago who kind of filled in some of the blanks.

Oh, in the Reza fashion. Yes. In Reza fashion. He's a Leo, I can imagine. He's a delight. Like one of them being when she was upset at you for smoking at her party, she did in fact partake in the smoking. Yes. Actually, that conversation, which that got cut part, was that I sort of did a little psychological game on her in that conversation.

And I was like, so you know, so you don't smoke weed. She goes, sometimes I do. I was like, oh, so wines more your thing. She goes, yeah, yeah, I have a glass every night. I was like, wow, okay, so you drink every day. Like at home, you go out. She goes, oh, if I'm out at home, everything. I said with your kids there, and then she got it.

But they cut that part out. So let's not talk about that. So, you know, listen, I'm very smart. I'm very sharp. And I've been on TV a long time. And when you see this person come, and I knew she was trying to come for me. She wanted me to get upset. But I was like, well, you have a very rational approach about your children being there. And as a mother, I immediately will apologize. Oh, my God, I'm so sorry.

I didn't know. I didn't see them. I had no clue. So that was it. But then don't grab the J and just hit it and then toss back the alcohol with it, you know? Speaking of marijuana, I am just curious as someone who at times partakes. Mm-hmm. Cannabis. And I have had at times pretty good streaks, I was a bit taken back by how much you spend. No judgment here, but I guess what I'm wondering, if I'm in the position two of four, am I just smoking the wrong stuff? Or are you just smoking that much more than me? I do smoke quite a bit.

Also, listen, we're in California. Our taxes for cannabis are ridiculous. this, we're looking at a close to 40% tax on top of what we pay. So that number, three to four thousand, I mean, cut it in almost half and that's how much I was spending. But that was technically the first time I had to do the math for it. And it was so weird because I can see myself in the scene like, oh my God, I smoked that much. It hit me in that moment. I was so embarrassed to say it, but I did cut back. I was impressed. I did cut back. I'm trying to. So, you know, trying to spend less.

Okay. You just want to know the premium strains or like, is it just, is that the price or? I'm very strain specific. So I'm not like one of those people. Or do it into Kisotiva. That doesn't mean anything to me. I'm very, very specific to the compounds and the strains.

So it doesn't really matter how much it costs, you know, that's more of the amateur level. They're like, the packaging's pretty. I can buy this. And the weed is just absolutely garbage. bitch. I just, I want to deal with the psychological part and, and also my autoimmune disease. It really does help me in a lot of ways. So. Are you still actively house hunting or have you found? I did find a house. I found a house like a few weeks after we wrapped, which sucked. I was like,

I found it. I'm still in the valley. Valley girl. Yeah, no, it's great. I downsized from a six bedroom. I'm in a five bedroom now. So I know. I know. It sounds like sky, but it's not. It's just, I think I always compare it to a purse. Like, for women, we get it. Like, no matter what size your purse is, it could be a duffel bag, you'll find ways to fill it up, right? So then when you have to go to a smaller purse, you're like, well, where do I put everything? And it's just that.

It's sort of finding where everything has to go. But I have a huge backyard now compared to my other one and I have two Rottweilers. So it's perfect. It's perfect. Yeah. Okay, great. How's business with the sex toys? Business is good.

Did you bring any? We were going to... I should have. I had no idea. You guys would be okay with that. We celebrate love and sex positivity. Yes. Well, speaking of something else that might have gotten cut.

So when we were like peeking through the window when RJ was having sex in Palm Springs, it was very quick. It was really quick. Like, I wasn't joking how quick it was. But, you know, it was, she was really putting a lot of work into, I felt bad for her wrist. And so I was just, I had a lot of extra toys with me at that time. I brought for everyone. So the next morning I brought her wine.

I said, this actually does the vibrating work for you. Yes. But that got cut. So the good stuff. Yeah, right? I don't know. So what was RJ doing if she was doing all the work for herself? Well, that's an easy question to answer.

He had both his hands behind his head. He was just doing what he needed really quickly. And he came right back out of that room as if just the cameras were right there. He was fine. He was honky-tory. I love him. He's just the cutest puppy that just keeps peeing all over the carpet, but they're just so cute. Y'all are like, we like her.

You should bring her back to L.A. And he's like, yeah, she's, I think she knows where she stands. Did you ever entertain an idea of you and R.J.? Oh, no. You know, I'm sapiosexual, like I was just saying. Yeah. Okay. Immediately no. There we go. Oh, that was great.

What was it that when Natasha met with Sky? She called you something. She called me a lot of names. I'm watching the season with you guys. She said a lot of things. She says I'm dangerous and aggressive or aggressive. She said I was dangerous for sure. That's a strong word.

I don't know how I am considered dangerous. Yeah. You enjoy living in the valley? What? I said how you consider dangerous to Sky. I was like, I don't know. You enjoy living in the valley. Yeah.

No, you know, here's the thing. I grew up in a way that you knock a few bucks. And it's not a good thing, but it's kind of like one of those things where she's bringing like a foot. gun to a knife, you know what I mean? You're coming at me in a way with all these cameras around. You know that I can't do or say exactly what I want to do. So I just wanted to intimidate her. I wanted to scare her.

I knew that there's all these cameras around. So I'm not going to put myself in a legal situation like that. But I felt like she needed to be a little scared and intimidated in that moment to just kind of put her in her place. She was telling Reza, you know, shut the fuck up. She's telling her best friend of how much. many years like, oh, your thoughts are feelings are worthless to me. You guys didn't see MJ was house hunting for her for months, months. And you guys know MJ's going through marital issues. She has to get back

into real estate. And the whole time, you know, they didn't have any money. So when MJ as a real estate agent has to see their paperwork, their financials, sees there's no money. You know, so that dinner started off with these conversations. And I'm just seeing her just down the table all my friends. She called me cheap 20 seconds before the dinner because I was using a plastic cup. You know, I was just, I couldn't deal with it anymore. So dangerous or just had enough? I mean, I was intimidated. Yeah, that was the point.

But to your point, like, again, that's all we saw. We didn't hear anything else. Certainly anything on Bravo that happens behind the scenes. If it's, you know, I don't know if you watch Housewives of Salt Lake City, but the famous plane ride that, you know, that was talking. about that wasn't filmed. Certainly, like, obviously, if something happened, where you better heard about it.

And, like, you being the professional that you are in season event and reality TV, yeah, I mean, it was, you know, like, it's great TV. But it was still impressive to see your ability to get to that level. It doesn't take a lot, if that's the case. It's just you have to really cross a certain line with me. Other than that, I'm really patient.

I'm surprisingly patient. Most people don't realize that about me. I'm actually the quieter one. the room when there's a group of people. But if you cross that line, I'm that mirror that's going to jump in your face and call you out. And I mean, you've gotten a lot of trouble growing up, mostly just correcting teachers, like, kicked out of 10 schools for this. It was never like anything else. I was always going after teachers like, well, you messed up right there. And, you know, I was just like, so I'm that person. I'm that really annoying person that's like, you misspelled

that. You know, that person. He does that. Yeah, that's me. But, yeah, the charming thing. about you and maybe it's just maturity over the years is like you can call it out you can recognize it you have some self-deprecating humor i think where we watch and we're watching sky i think the biggest frustration is like the the lack of like just just just just say something you're not good at you know just just acknowledge something that's a little might be off putting about you we all have that part and then she's just or just say something positive yeah like we love something we love someone who can set it and enforce some boundaries he seems very good at that like but like just i my question to you is, is that who really she is? Or do you think there's any part of her that's playing it up for TV?

No, I think she came very true and her actual authentic self for TV. I think who she was before was a facade. And this version of her is probably who she is. I think there's a lot more to come and there's a lot more for people to see. I wasn't expecting the side of her. I literally started watching the show from episode one. I'm like, wow, she's throwing shade at me at every chance and every interview bit. I think she's trying to play this role. You know, like Amanda from

Housewives of Beverly Hills, except Amanda has money. You know what I mean? She's got this thing that she wants to be cool and, like, rich, I go to Arawon. Like, you're an idiot if you go to Arawon with all due respect. Who does that? It's bananas to me.

So the stuff that happens between her and Tannen gets pretty messy. Do you think she'll be back for season two? I hope so. I definitely hope so. Listen, I'm a reality horror before I'm a famous reality star. I love reality TV and I'm watching it and I'm like, wow, this is a pretty good show we got going here. And guess who has the most airtime? It's her.

She has airtime the most as much as you can't stand her ass. She does. And she's the cause of all these ripples that are going on that are keeping ratings going. So as someone who's sitting back, I'm like, holy shit, yeah, I'd want her back. But like you were saying, you can't come back without vulnerability, accountability, and a little humanity in yourself. I told her, I reached out to her after Palm Springs and I wrote her a text message, apologizing. And at the end of it, I said, I've been in your shoes. Because for eight seasons out of Shaza Sunset, it was a lot of.

it was me on this island and Reza and the group on this other island and I was constantly, it was just me against all of them, but I constantly showed humility. I showed I have anger issues. I showed I have alcohol issues. I was popping pills. I showed those parts of myself. You know, I wasn't ashamed to bring it all. She needs to do that or else no one wants to fucking watch her.

Nobody. Do you watch traitors? I don't. Would you go on it? I feel like you'd be very good. I was asked. I don't. It's not for me.

You were asked. Yeah, it's not for me. Was it not for you? Oh, okay. It wasn't like watching MJ get completely fucked over at the end of season. I didn't watch, but I've seen those clips and it was brutal because I know her so well and I could see it in her face. When she started walking backwards, I could just feel her in my heart. You'd be very good.

It'd be fun to watch. I mean, people dress like her for Halloween now. It's crazy. I know. That's very cute. What are some of the things you're enjoying the most on reality TV right now other than Valley Persian style. I love the housewives.

All the housewives I watch all of them. I'm sad. The basketball wives is now finished, but I used to love watching the basketball wives and loving hip hop and not really much of a competition show watcher. But, yeah. Speaking of MJ, was it shocking to see the way Tommy spoke to her? Or was that something you were well aware of being such good friends with her?

I don't think it matters how aware you are of stuff like that when you see it like that. It's just, it's gut wrenching. Yeah. It makes you just want to hug her. And I don't know. I think I don't want to be an asshole and say, well, she's divorcing him for a reason. But it's because she has to watch it right now and she went through it for years. And I am just proud of her for doing what's best for herself, her son.

But I just hope she can watch it and understand it. as this is why I made that choice because I think oftentimes when someone gets divorced and I know she's been feeling these things that people guilt trip them on like just stay and fix it and deal with it and I think that guilt was kind of weighing in on her but I would like to know that moments like this are a reflection for her it's tough it's that was brutal like I was like I was nauseous for her like I was like oh my god he knows cameras are here like on a little bit And just like all of that aside, the just little he is willing to support her. Like he can't even help her take a dish inside.

He can't hold her bag. He can't open the door for her. He's like, I got to get out of here. I got to get home and shit. You are, you guys, something's coming up. And it is tough. Very tough. And I was there and you guys will see it soon.

It was just like, oh, my. my God. And it's like one of those things where you can't make this shit up. It happens so authentically while we happened to be filming. And it was just an example. If none yet so far, this was brutal. The thing you're speaking of, do you think that was the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak, in terms of MJ deciding to move forward? No. No, I think that the straw was her son getting to an age and he was mimicking his father. behavior. And I think that that was sort of, you know, weighing in like, this is, this is time to now do something about it. I think when you see that happening, you're like with that,

you do everything for your kid to be a hundred versions better than yourself. So it's very difficult to see that you see your son being the thing that hurts you the most, which is your husband. Yeah. And it's also tough because like with him, it was always, his explanation was like, he's doing this for hers because he has her back. And like he can never even connect the dots by like him just not showing up makes it harder for her because she's got to explain his absence. She doesn't have her support. And it's just like and like that and that's this should be so obvious like any any partner. But like he's so he clearly was just watching it from I mean a fan's perspective seems so convinced he's right.

Yeah. And that's difficult to deal with. I'm really proud of her. I'm really proud of her right now. That's awesome. I am too. I know. I met her at a dinner party like last year.

And we just, she's one of those. She is. You immediately click with her. Immediately. She's got this chemistry that's like intoxicating. Absolutely. And it doesn't matter if she's older than you, younger than you, doesn't matter.

She's always that nurturing vibe. Yeah. She's always ready to take care of someone. Yeah. Well, Gigi, this has been so much fun. We love you back on television. It's so great. Please come back whenever, certainly next season.

Is it officially been picked up? because obviously it's going to be better. Obviously, it's better. I saw something. It's like, I think you guys have some of the best ratings for a new show on Bravo. I saw that recently online. I was like, oh, M.GG. I have one more question.

And we were talking about this earlier. I couldn't help, but like, you know, we watched so many Bravo shows. And obviously we get its TV and we're leaning in the drama. And Bravo has a history of, at least from an audience perspective, of supporting toxic men and like casting a lot of toxic men. And I've really enjoyed the Valley Persian style for the exact opposite reason. It seems like there are a lot of stand-up male partners on this show. Not everyone. Do you feel like that is accurate from someone who knows these men?

Because it really is honestly good to see some healthy masculinity and good male characters on a Bravo show that I feel like we never get to see. Absolutely. I think it is probably one of the most refreshing parts of my great. group this time around that we get to have that energy around, that straight male confident, straight male energy that, you know, is so confident they can dip into their femininity, cry gently on camera. It's just been beautiful to see the amount of work that Greg and Tannen have put into their marriage. I personally know that it's definitely brought them a lot closer being on this journey together. Natasha and Amir, I mean, that's a whole, like, come on. Like, we need a whole box

of Kleenex for any time they're on. They are the heart of this crew, like literally through and through the kindest people. They host every weekend we get to go over their house with the kids and have playdates and stuff. So they're just, it's great to bounce ideas off of straight men, gay men, women. You know what I mean? It's like when you're just women sometimes it's kind of like like, ha ha ha, like this. And then the guys come in. They're like, chill, relax. It's fine.

And it's been really nice. And it's been really nice to see people like yourself notice that. So I'm going to say thank you from the men on my show because I know that they would really appreciate it. I really enjoyed watching it because it's sometimes like covering these shows. It just gets like

almost like obnoxious and annoying to this constantly criticize the behavior of so many. of the guys where it's like you sound like a hater but it's just like what it's like give me something to root for yeah yeah so it's been really fun to see uh jiji this is so much fun thanks for coming thank you please come back and talk other reality

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