The Viall Files - E1146 - Andrea & Lexi's Scamanda Tea, Love Island Takes w Jimmy Sotos, RHORI Reunion, Million Dollar Nannies

Episode Date: June 23, 2026

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap!    Love Island season continues to serve mess and realness, and to help us break it all down, the one and only b-ball player extraordinaire, Jimmy Sotos returns to the show! Meanwhile, Andrea and Lexi from In The City stop by to share all the BTS of the inaugural season, as well as any tea they have on West and Amanda… you won't want to miss THAT. Plus, we get into the RHORI reunion (Rulla's nose) and new show Million Dollar Nannies. Happy Fathers day!!   "Play ball, shawty." Nick is on Substack! Subscribe here: https://nickviall.substack.com/subscribe  HEY! YOU! DO YOU NEED DATING AND RELATIONSHIP ADVICE?  Email [e-mail] and be a part of future Ask Nick episodes! Want ad free episodes and incredible bonus content?  Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Subscribe to The ENVY Media Newsletter Today: https://www.viallfiles.com/newsletter  To Order Nick's Book and/or learn more about the show, go to: https://viallfiles.com THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Upside: To find out how much you could earn, Download the FREE Upside App and use promo code VIALL to get an extra 25 cents back for every gallon on your first tank of gas. Quince: Go to https://quince.com/viall for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. Poshmark: Download the Poshmark app and use code viall10 when you sign up to get $10 off your first purchase. Cozey: Transform your living space today with Cozey. Visit https://cozey.com  — the home of possibilities, made easy. Quo: Money is on the line. Always say hello with QUO. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to https://quo.com/viall  To advertise on this podcast please email: [e-mail] or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/theviallfiles   Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 11:09 - Summer House 17:10 - Andrea and Lexi Join 48:00 - Jimmy Joins 01:35:19 - Housewives Recap 2:04:29 - Outro Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @andreadenver @lexisundin @jsotos1 @susiecevans @justinkaphillips @baybaeee  

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Not available in all states. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vafow's reality recap edition. I'm your host, Nick, joined by my wife in the household. Everyone's doing it. Well, I don't want to speak for everyone.

How is everyone doing? Great. I'm doing good. Yeah. Natalie is so done. Happy Father's Day, Natalie. Thank you. Thank you.

Nick, honestly, he had kind of an iconic weekend. Yeah, please tell. I saw some pictures. Start from Friday because I know that's when it started. Well, you start from your perspective. Well, on the baseline that it was iconic. Okay.

Right. We went to Santa Barbara. A nice little trip. A little last trip of the three of us before the twins show up and we, I don't know, spent some time together. What version of Santa Barbara was it? Like not the wineries, obviously.

right? So you were walking around like the main part of it? We just went to a hotel. Yeah. On vacation, very last minute, we were like, you know what? Every weekend we kind of do the same thing. We're like, let's just drive to an hour and a half, two hours up to Santa Barbara, stay in a nice hotel, walk, you know, I don't know, walk around. Look at something different.

Yeah, literally. Literally look at something different. Yeah, I like that. And that is what we did. And we stayed at the Brits up there and they were like, oh, it's, the beachfront resort. And so I was like, okay, Slay. So when I go, I literally was like, hi, like, how is?

I'm like, can we get early check-in? They're like, yeah, of course. And then I'm like, also, what's like the beach access? Look, you know, like, do you need to, what do I need to bring? And she's like, well, someone can take you down there for sure. I'm like, okay. Like an Uber? And I'm like, do I need to, like, do y'all have chairs down there?

And she's like, no, it's a public beach. So no, we don't have any chairs. And I'm like, okay. So I pack beach towels and like all the stuff. And River is hyped to go to the beach. She's like, hell yeah, love a beach. So we bring her sand toys, we bring her towels. Was it a rocky beach?

It was rocks. It was rocks. It was like seaweed and logs. It was just a lot of like a lot of, you could have started a really great like bonfire. Just a lot of beach would. It just wasn't like rocky beaches are still fun. She handed me like she's got her sand toys are like these little ice cream cone things. and she handed me

when she said, he's ice keem, and I held it and they were like, a bunch of sand fleas jumping out of it. And I was like, we need to go to the pool,

I think. I think this is a pool day. I think maybe we'll spend the day at the pool. Yeah, we'll catch an Uber back. It was a lovely, fun weekend.

But it was funny because the woman on the phone was kind of like, babe, I don't think this beach is like what you think it is. Yeah. But she didn't tell you.

She didn't tell me. But that's nice, maybe. It's like when the server can't tell you, like the steak fruits are bad. Yeah, you're like, how are this taking free? It's, well, they're like, I actually don't. Go for the burger.

It's not my favorite. Yeah, exactly. So was the hill that you posted walking up on the way to the beach or on the way back from the beach? That was up to, like, the lobby. And we're like, oh, we'll just walk up there. You have to, like, call for a golf cart. We'll just walk up there. And then I was like, oh, my God, the entire thing is uphill.

This entire thing. So, but we made it and went to the Country Mart. Okay. It's really cute. Really cute. And they had all of those little, what are they called where you put the coins in? Oh, the horsey things that go do. Oh, my gosh.

Obsessed. Yeah, they did. They were all over. Are they like the vintage ones? Yes. Oh, it's fun. Yes. And River was obsessed.

Yeah, they take quarters. Who has quarters? Right. Did they have a quarter machine? Did you guys have to? No, there was a nice woman who also had a child. She was able to give, who also had a child there, which shared some of her quarters with River. That's so nice.

I know. Faith in humanity. To be a real human. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, and then what did we do after that? Had a nice dinner. We made a nice dinner.

Then we came home. Now they got to be a massage. River, I don't know if this is normal for a two and a half year old. It can't be. But she like, I don't know if she heard it at the park. I don't know if she heard me say it to Nick one day or something. But she started saying, go away. And she says it like this.

Go away. Oh, that's scary. Oh, my God. I hate it. And so I'm like, you cannot say that. Like, do not say, go away anymore. Now she says it under her breath. She's like this.

Go away. Oh, my God. I'm like, what did you just say? She's like, oh, she's saying it to you. Oh, what? Yes. Oh. And I'm like, I say it louder.

And she's like, I not say go away. And I'm like, how do you know how to do this? Like, that can't be normal, you know? It's like, Learn behavior? I don't know. She had to learn it from someone. It's kind of polite.

But at the same time, there's other options. I mean, like, would you rather her like punch a kid? You know what I mean? Yeah, like,

I just think there's kids that like will like push him. Don't know how to use their word so they're going to like use their like. No, I think it's just Natalie is speaking to the idea

that she, Nallie is telling her you can't say this. Yes. And Rivers response is to be like, well, I'm going to find a different way of saying. I'm going to say it.

And then deny. And then deny. And then deny that I'm saying it. Yeah. It's kind of iconic. So funny. Crazy. Anyways.

It was a lovely weekend. I got to spend the time. What did you do on actual Father's Day? We just spend time? I got to spend Father's Day with the people I love the most. Oh. Yeah. He got a massage and we went to brunch and we went to one of his favorite clothing stores

and then we came home and he played a lot of football. I played three or four games of Madden. A lot of football. American football. And it was his last. day of smoking ganja. So he smoked a lot of weed. Last day.

So I've been told. Oh, really? Oh, okay. From you. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. We need to cleanse before the twins get here, you know. So fair.

One last hurrah. That's what I said. One last hurrah on Father's Day. How lucky are you? Are you like a gummy guy or like a... Oh, yeah, maybe just a different form. Maybe a different form. Yeah.

He's open-minded. Like one of those massive bongs. Different form. Different form? It lights it up. My mom stopped smoking with. and she gave birth to us. And I never saw her smoke.

Cigarettes or weed? Cigarettes. But I never saw her smoke until the divorce. But I think a lot of parents do it and I think it's a healthy thing. You guys, can I tell a funny story of the time my dad and I realized we both smoked weed? I was like, I must have been 20 and I had been at college and my friends, I was the DD that night and some guy gave us like half a joint to take home. And I was like, hold on to that because my friends had been drinking.

So I'm like, don't lose that. because we got to get home and I want that. So, of course, my one friend is like this in the backseat, somehow loses it in my car. And I'm like, bro, like, we get home, whatever. It's gone for the semester. I come home for summer and my dad cleans my car. And he comes into my room in the morning, being my sweet father that cleaned my car with a bag with a half a joint.

And he's like, found something in your car. And he says it down. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. And he's like, let me know if you want to smoke it later. And I was like, oh. And you smoked it together? Yeah. You didn't lose it.

Didn't lose it. Daddy found it. Oh, that's kind of sweet, actually. What did you guys talk about when you were smoking weed? I'm like, how long you've been doing this? He's like, forever. But he hid it from you pretty good. Yeah.

Yeah, is that something you and your dad do together on occasion? My dad, yeah, he has, I'll have to show you pictures. He has, like, plants now because it's legal. And so he's like a little connoisseur. My dad. He's got all different kinds. He's a botanist, if you will. Yeah.

Wow. Yeah. Yeah, he's got lots of flavors. If anyone wants to try any, he can bring some back. Oh, yeah. All kinds of stuff going on. That's the ice cream shop. It is.

Like, everybody loves him in the neighborhood, you know? Well, we have a jam-packed episode lined up for you today. Andrea and Lexi from In the City. Join us momentarily to talk about in the city, obviously. The new Bravo show that is sweeping Bravo. A lot of people are latched onto it, obviously, on the heels of this commanded drama. But we have Lexi and Andrea, who recently announced their, they're pregnant.

Or she is pregnant. They are expecting their first child. So obviously we got to talk to them, get to know them a little bit. We got their thoughts and feelings and everything related to Scamanda and West and Kyle and how things are working with

in the city. So fat, a really interesting conversation with him. Then we also have Jimmy Sotos returning to the Vile Files. You know him from Perfect Match. Many of you know him from TikTok. He told us that he almost went on Love Island,

but he is also just a big fan of Love Island. So he's here to help us break down the recent. drama that's been unfolding in the villa. Lots to unpack there. We are finally in Casa Moore. I think some of the drama, hopefully, is going to unfold. Lots of breakdown with the villa.

So we'll have Jimmy following our conversation with Andrea and Lexi. Well, before we get into today's episode, I want to remind you, we are back tomorrow for a special episode. We have Dr. Terry Debrough in studio. We mentioned that we had dinner with Dr. Terry, his lovely with Heather. The Dubros. We had dinner with the Dubros. I just fell in love with him.

I think he's such a cool guy. He's so smart and interesting. Obviously, a leader in his profession. And he was talking to me at dinner about like GLP ones and AI and medicine. And I'm like, well, you've got to come on the show. I don't think we've ever had him on. And so we had this very fascinating conversation about all these things about like, what's the future of GLP ones? Are they safe?

Who's using them? Are there more GLP ones coming out? The future of medicine and AI, is it safe? Does he support it? Does he not support it? What does it look like? see like so many trends online about plastic surgery and mommy makeovers and this way versus that way and this implant versus that implant. So it was really interesting to like pick his brain and get just his raw real reaction. Very fascinating stuff. So be sure to tune in for that. We'll obviously talk about tonight's episode of Love Island as well. So do not miss tomorrow's episode. Also don't forget that Vafel's plus is available and ad free for all you Vifi listeners out there. So in addition to all your ad free. episodes, you get your pop extra episodes where we dive deep into all the pop culture topics out there,

as well as our reality recap deep dyes where we get really deep into all your favorite shows like Love Island, Summer House in the city, and so much more. Also your update specials, all your favorite updates from your favorite ask Nick calls. So be sure to sign up. Go to Vialfiles.com to do that and you'll be glad that you did. We talked about Michelle dating Dr. Dre. We did talk about Michelle dating Dr. Dre. Still crazy. do you think they listen No I think Dr. Dre is listening to his own beats now Yeah that's what I'm saying

Beats by Dre What do you think they listen to us? No No Did they listen to Dr. Dre? Yeah do you think they're in the car listening to Michelle for sure it did yeah 100%

But before we do Well Kyle speaking of Summerhouse Is not leaving Summerhouse I don't think Kyle's post required a follow-up from Kyle I think that's fans not really paying attention. And 100% did. His caption was like, goodbye.

To the house. He didn't say to the house. He posted pictures of, he talked about the house. It was about the house and like the crew filming it. The crew and it was very much just like goodbye to the crew, goodbye to the family that was one summer house. And he led with like it's the end of season 10. So I think to me I agree with you, by the way,

I saw it as like, oh, he's being very reminiscent of like this season. specifically because it was monumental. I didn't read it as he was quitting. But now he's had to disclaim it being like this isn't. But a lot of people did think he was quitting because it was so emotional. So much so that he had to have like a follow up guys I'm not quitting. It was like it was two different press cycles in the same day. Does he know that he's for sure confirmed?

Do we know that he's for sure confirmed? He, I mean. I mean, he is. Summer House. I mean, he said that he wasn't leaving. Okay. So I think to me that confirms that he's, right? I mean, Carl and.

West saying that he's or West is not returning. So I feel like they're definitely getting it. We had what Carl and Lindsay also are coming back. Which is interesting because that means that in the city wasn't fully just to like transition. Or maybe it still is. Maybe they're just not full time as much.

Well, I feel like Carl was always going to stay with Summerhouse. And then I guess Lindsay's just going to continue. I mean, if they can get two paychecks, why not get two instead of one? I mean, I agree. Hell yeah. We still don't know though where like Amanda is landing. So that's interesting to me. I feel like we have like the puzzle pieces of West

not being a part of Summerhouse, but then you still have Carl, Lindsay, and Kyle, and Amanda's in the city. But I feel like her dynamic on Summerhouse is like in the air because we also have Miha potentially going there. Isn't that the talk of the town right now?

I have heard that. That was speculation, but I don't know how much that is this like fan driven. I just, I think a lot of these times. She doesn't want to be around West and Amanda, which is like, yeah, because, right?

Like, I'm glad that this me and Sierra seem to have become friends. But if you're, we've heard, I think, from the showrunner of Summer House that the show is really gonna be centered around Sierra. Like, I assume Sierra, and I think a lot of fans, as much as we've enjoyed talking

about this command of it all, I think Sierra deserves a clean slate. Like, if you bring Maha in, she is West's ex-girlfriend. How do you bring her in? Who, like, seems to still be in communication with West. That's the part of it. thought about it that like that how many hours of conversation that she said she was on the phone with West seems like a little six hours is a lot a little much you know i mean

she's entitled to it i'm sure she has a lot of questions to get answered but i don't know it just seems like bringing her in i'm glad they're friends they can still be friends but does she deserve a seat at the table like is there no one else and i just feel like nothing against her that would just bring west into summer house in a way that like I think Sierra deserves a chance to finally have a storyline. She definitely does. Completely outside of West. And I don't know how that's possible if you cast Mia. Miha would have to be there and not be talking about West.

You know, it would have to be like, oh, she just here my fun. We only know her from West. I mean, her opening, you know, who is she? You know, would be centered around a flashback of the, watch what happens live appearances, the reunion appearances and things like that. And it's just like, I don't know. I mean, it's certainly possible. And, like, maybe Sierra is down,

but, like, it just seems like it would be bringing in old drama in a way that I just feel like... Yeah. I also kind of feel like you get one. You get one person to have their career just blow up from a dude screwing you over. We don't...

I don't feel like everyone needs... Like, we don't need me... I mean, I'm cool with Miha. I like her. But I'm like, we don't need to, like, launch Miha onto this audience because West screwed her over. You know?

I just think like imagine like five years from now, like Meeha and Sierra could be like the page and Hannah. No, I mean, that could be cute. We have Mia and. Listen, I am here already.

So we actually don't need that. But I pointed out that a lot of guys like West in reality TV have used the lack of knowing how reality TV works as a way to manipulate the people they date. And I think obviously he did that with Maha. At the same time, I do think like, Listen, like, she also was a willing participant. I think she maybe didn't ask questions she could have asked.

She was another person in this equation. You know, I just don't know if, to your point, I don't know if she deserves the same sympathy and empathy that we're giving to Sierra. Also, like, her saying that her and West only call because of Amanda. It is giving, going behind Amanda's back. It's still playing into it and still like, one. Yeah. Like, you know that Amanda and West are exclusive and together.

Yeah. And you're like willingly. Adjusting. And adjusting. And adjusting to like that so that you can still talk to West. Which I'm sure maybe to give her the benefit of the doubt, she has unanswered questions she wants answered. They didn't get all those out in the six hour phone call they have. I know.

But why do you, why do you have to like hide that? You know, you could be like, I have nothing to hide. I just have some questions that I want to answer. And I'm glad you have a girlfriend now. but like I feel like I deserve some clarity. She did put it on national television, so I wonder if they're still calling each other or if Amanda watch that.

That's why I'm like, we need the cameras rolling now. Clearly there are still a lot of unanswered questions when it comes to how things are going to move forward with Summer House and in the city. But thank God we have Andrea and Lexi with us to get some answers of those unanswered questions, and they are up next. Well, as the heat waves are flying through

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Plus get 20% off your first six months when you go to Quo.com slash V-I-A-L-L. That's Quo.com, spell Q-U-O.com slash V-I-A-L-L. Where are you from? All over the place. I was born in Arizona. My family lived there for like 10 years until they decided to move to Hawaii. I lived there for like three years. My parents got divorced.

move with my mom to Georgia. That's where I went to high school. You almost sound like you have like a European English accent. Probably because I'm married to a European. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what everybody says all the time. They say that? Yeah, yeah.

I see all over the internet. They always wonder where she's from. I guess. Like if you would have been like Croatia, I'm like, oh, cool. No, no. Not that I know. Just America. No, I think.

I think I'm the type of person that just likes to mimic other. people's accents by accident. And so now that I'm married to one and just like, I guess they've taken it over. I'm the same way. I always felt like if I am in the room with someone who has a British accent, I, it's dangerous. It's so bad. Yeah. And then I feel so awkward.

Sorry, I'm not. Well, welcome to the show, guys. Thank you. We're excited. We're so excited to have you. First of all, congratulations. Thank you. How exciting.

Having a girl. I know. We have a two and a half year old little girl. Oh, yeah? It's she was your first. Yeah. And I mean, of course, I'm like biased, but I think girls are the best. Not being a very.

I was it for you. I'm curious. I mean, you should be asking me, but I'm asking you because I'm very curious. Listen, I like a lot of guys. I think, you know, being, I've always imagined being a father. But usually it was always like, I don't really care what I have, but I hope someday I can have a boy, right? you know, like for me, like, you know, not all men, but a lot of guys, you know, they want to check that box. Like a lot of women hope that they have a daughter someday.

After having a daughter, I've realized that it's easier to be a girl dad because, like, having girls makes it, it's like it's so easy, I think, for the guys. Because I, and I had a friend telling me this, he was afraid he had three daughters and he had a son. And I was like, oh, it must have been really exciting to have. And I think as guys, you would have a tendency of like projecting whatever like lessons you want to like pass down to your son or things you think you maybe got wrong where I think as dads, all you, all you have to do is make your your daughter feel like loved and valued. And like there's an effort. There's an ease there. There's a lack of pressure. I think what you're saying is actually true because initially I was like, you know what I would like to have a boy first.

But then, I don't know, probably also because we've been spending time with, you know, Gemma, Lindsay's daughter a lot, and she's adorable. I've been feeling much more comfortable about having a girl, of course, we both have, but especially me, I have a lot of learning to do. But I'm very, very excited. So, you know, I'm very looking forward to embrace this new chapter. And if the future is going to hold a boy, well, I'm going to be happy to deal with that as well. But I'm very, very excited to become a girl dead. Girl dead. Do you think y'all's parenting styles are similar,

or do you think you're kind of going to go through the waves of learning each other's? I would say it's pretty similar. Yeah. I mean, we agree on so much, and I think that's why we have such a solid relationship. Maybe there's, like, the cultural differences, Italy versus America and, you know, like, different traditions that will be different. different. But overall, I think we're pretty similar. Yeah, I mean, we've been talking about it all the time, and I think we're pretty much on the same page.

I think the culture are different actually going to make it even better because, you know, it's going to be a mix of both, even, you know, the festivities, all that. Because, you know. Are you going to only speak Italian to your daughter? That's funny. It's funny. We were having a walk the other day, and I said, I got to force myself to just speak Italian. Yeah. And she's going to speak English because I don't want her to pick my accent. I was like, are you still going to speak English with me? He's like, no, only Italian. I'm like, well, what do you mean? Are you fully fluent in Italian?

I can understand it, but I'm not like responding back in Italian. So I'm like, you're not going to be speaking English to me? I mean, maybe a... You're like suddenly a lot quieter at our house because we don't have a conversation. I talk all the time, so I'm just going to do an Italian. But I think it's going to be good for her too because she's actually very good at Italian. She understands everything.

I just think she doesn't find, you know, like her... She's not confident enough to speak, but because she want to be perfect but you know you're never going to like none of us perfection is impossible in everything so she's amazing in speaking in Italian so I'm excited

our daughter will know Italian before me to be able to speak it She's being humble She's very good at Italy I wish our daughter knew no other language No I mean I got her a tutor You had Lexi a tutor?

Yeah for Italian yeah That's love Yeah I mean we were spending a lot of time in Italy Very good friends. Yeah, before we got married. And so every time we were there, she was coming to our house and I was doing like private lessons. So I learned a lot. But I definitely think I learned the most just from hearing Andrea speak all the time.

So, you know, he can't speak about me behind my back. I can understand everything. You know, it's beautiful because she can literally pick up everything. So I love that. And, you know. How have you guys enjoyed being a part of in the city season one? It was really fun. Yeah, it was a great experience.

What has it been like to have the premiere of the season be so wrapped up in the Scamanda scandal? Do you guys enjoy it because it gives you guys like obviously a lot of eyeballs on the show? Or does it sometimes feel like it's almost been a distraction to what you guys are putting on the TV? I think the question, I think the answer could go both ways. I definitely would have been curious to see how the show would have been without that whole scandal because there were so much. like so many different topics that we discussed over the fall. So for it to be kind of taken over by this. And now every viewer I think is looking for clues or any kind of thing that happened in the fall with her and Wes.

So I don't know. On one hand, it's nice because we have all those people. On the other hand, I would have liked to have seen what it was without that. Yeah. I mean, I feel like there's a lot of hate that comes from the whole. candle and because of that I feel like certain people like watches it some they don't even watch it but some other they watch it or like with a different feeling and I feel like that if nothing would have happened you know people would have appreciated it more and you were you were a part of

season six of summer house yeah season six and then I was a guest for like seven and eight so you know Kyle and Amanda that grew pretty well oh yeah they were at our I mean Amanda wasn't but Kyle was at our wedding too um you know I she's a just wasn't up for it that day. I think she, like, they had a lot of weddings that they went to that summer and she decided that they needed. They were dividing and conquering. They needed a dog sitter or something?

Yeah. So, yeah, they didn't, I mean, she didn't come. But I was at their wedding and, you know, we also did winter house together. So we spent a lot of time. I mean, I always being a big supporter of the both of them. And, you know, I always wanted for their wedding, for their marriage to succeed. So, yeah, I'm very close. Has it been a chance?

Like someone who's. known them on a personal level and like I have friends with them how has it been you know because like you said you know how it may be reality TV but there is a difference between real and reality TV and it's nuanced obviously you know it's not the discount you know again what you guys you know you show up and you give us an insight into your marriage and what it's like to raise and there and that there's a realness there but it's also a TV show and how do you handle like you know is it been difficult to you to see the vitriol that's been directed at your friends and how they've handled that and you feel like it's affected your relationship with them?

No, I wouldn't say affected. I think I really appreciate like Kyle as a person and, you know, even the fact that it's been supportive, even the fact that he's being saying multiple times that they're still love, you know, they're not together, they're probably, you know, never going to go back together. But the fact that it's be there for her, that's the best support she could ever had.

So I'm glad to see that. And, you know, as I said, multiple times throughout this week's, speaks volume about the person that Kyle is. And listen, Kyle that is on amount of faults in the past, but at the same time, what I like about Kyle is going to be held in self-accountable for the mistakes he makes. And, you know, he's going to apologize. Maybe the apologies are going to come right away, but it's going to come.

And, you know, that's what I really love about Kyle, and that's what I really find him very genuine. Yeah, no, I appreciate you saying that. I've also tried to find at least some understanding and empathy towards Amanda, even though sometimes the internet is very resistant to that. But, you know, things don't happen in a vacuum. And it's not, you know, I think there's a difference between excuses and reasons. Like, you know, like, there might be a reason why Amanda did it.

I don't think it's necessarily a excuse. But like, you know the person. Do you, have you been as conflicted with her decisions? Or do you, do you have any empathy or understanding where she's coming from whether you agree with the decision or not? No, I can really say that I understand where he's coming from. know that there was issues in the marriage, but I don't think you can really go to that for what happened because they were already separated. And, you know, I also want to be in good faith and believe the timeline that has been presented. So, you know, up and after. The thing is I,

it takes time. I'm still in shock, honestly, because it came out of nowhere. Nobody would have seen that come in. At least, I mean, I wouldn't. And I know other people that didn't expect that. So I still think we're processing. I, of course, think that the summer house was more into that situation, so they felt them much closer. For us in the city, you know, we had a different approach, and I feel like I can speak for a lot of our friends, because, you know, we saw also like at the reunion. But it's definitely a very delicate moment and situation that I think still need time

to process. We'll find out this week that West Wilson will not be coming back to Summerhouse, allegedly. And it makes a lot of sense because I think it's just going to be centered around Sierra and rightfully so. If there is a world where now that OS and Amanda are together, would you guys welcome West Wilson on In the City? I don't think any of us really understand her decisions or why she did it or the person that she chose. so I don't really know if I don't know if I see that possibility I don't know I think it would take some time

also because this is somebody that is not involved with reality TV but somebody said it could have done to your wife could have done to somebody else's wife I mean at the end of the day a friendship got ruined on both hands but also like the Kyle and West were really good friends

and I don't know I think I think I mean I'm open for second chances. I think it just would take some time, you know. Do you feel like the group overreacted with your murky comment? I mean, the group actually didn't really react. It was like Kenny versed a group.

Kenny and Gavin versed a group. I mean, Gavin wasn't even really aware. Yeah, Gavin didn't even know what was going on. How is Whitney doing? I don't only ask because, like, it would be, I don't know Whitney that well. she was on my season way back when I only remember a really nice person. She is very nice.

I feel for her. Because like this like how her relationships being perceived is like Kenny and I don't know him as a person, he got mad. I think it was you. Yeah, it was mad of me. But it's just like why are you? Rule number one,

don't talk shit about your partner to your friends. Yeah. I mean, he said it so it was going to come back somehow. But like I think now. their relationship is really solid. But at the time, it was, it was really hard for her to be on reality TV in this new relationship, just moves across the country. And now, you know, everybody is questioning their motives and if they're going to last.

But the thing is, like, none of us were wanting them to see them fail. Like, we wanted them to succeed. We weren't, like, gossiping or running our mouths, like, you would have said. But when you watch it back, I'm curious, do you, again, because, you know, who knows? Like sometimes when it comes to reality TV, some people, it's like it's, it's like their turn to take it. You know, it's like sometimes it, you feel a little misrepresented. And I'm curious, when you guys watch back this season, do you feel like Whitney and Kenny's relationship is more, more or less what what you saw in real life versus what the audience is seeing?

Because like Kenny, he seemed like, it's like, I feel like rule number one, don't embarrass your partner. And he, it's, he says things that Whitney would have the right to feel embarrassed, even though I don't think she should. should be embarrassed, but like he does things to embarrass her, which is like, I don't know, I don't get why he does that. I think that's a good point. And I talk to Kenny about it. I think in certain situations, his behavior could have been different. That's the only thing that I'm like, because I like Kenny.

Listen, the guy is much more likable than what you guys are seeing right now. We have been spending time with them off camera and we enjoy being around them. And I also believe in them. and I think they're going to, they eventually can be that end game couple that, you know, they're going to end up together for the rest of their life and, you know, we're here to support that. But I told Kenny, I think in a lot of situation, he put himself under the wrong light because I feel like sometimes she should be just making a step back and acknowledge mistakes that he could have done, you know, instead of like going in attack mode or going like on a totally different direction.

And he was, I mean, the last conversation we understood. I was like he said yes I started realizing that but you know I still I still think also he was still figuring out of course the fact that she moved across country that's a huge thing so when you do that you kind of want to have some answers at least you know what are we doing here and I think in that moment we're still like a little bit not going to say that word but you know still to figure it out yeah and it was never about murky it was always about the spark comment that we heard Yeah. And maybe like we got it wrong saying there was no spark. It was just like, is this spark going to last forever? Which I think like Whitney making. That's definitely not your guys' fault. Yeah.

No, if you want to go war by war, then I apologize. It's not like no spark. The marketing guy said, I apologize for it. It came from me. It was like my interpretation. But yes. Isn't that what you guys are supposed to do in a friend group on reality TV? So talk about this stuff?

And the substance is that, you know. I still like you're doubting like a little bit of the spark, which is a big deal. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, play out that way. And we're good. And once again, we enjoy being around. If I were interviewing Kenny right now, do you think he would say, you know what, Andrea, like, that's on me.

I said what I said. It's my, you know, I'm responsible for my relationship. They were just maybe talking to each other. You don't think he was. I think he would go on a little route. but I think Kenny today it would say yes you said murky

you apologize I said this I didn't mean it this way but it would be more this is me I see good in people and I think it would be more like accountable for what he said like you know I would that's my feeling

okay that's valid the show kind of touches on where the two of you will end up kind of settling down do we feel like we have our answer on that or not yet. Still far away. Still far away. No, but far away because we haven't really,

we're not even thinking about it. Cast trip to Italy, maybe? It would be nice. I've been telling for a long time. What did you think of some of the locations that Amanda and West went to? They've been in. They went to Tarminna. They went to Tuscanay. And, you know, I keep saying, you know, blaming on Italy. Blame it on Italy. Is that the culture to spit in each other's mouth?

We can't really talk about that because it's something that actually got a knowledge of their reunion. So you got to have a topic. Yeah. But no, they went to some beautiful location. So, you know, I think Amanda was really wanted to go there. Win and Rome. She was ready to risk it all for Italy. For Italy.

That's true. For all the fans who felt frustrated about what Amanda brought to the Summer House reunion, Do you feel like they'll be a little more satisfied with what she brought to the in the city reunion? I think they'll maybe see a different side of her because we are a different group and there was probably less pressure on her with us. That's what I've seen before. Like there was more space. Yeah. I think our group of friends from in the city, the approach was different.

So I felt like she felt less pressure and she was more open. And most of us weren't directly impacted by. her action. So I think it was a little different for her coming into it. So maybe people will be pleased to see how she acted at our reunion. Whose side are y'all on with the whole Danielle versus Amanda? I know this recent episode kind of blew up on the trolley bus. Well, now it's a little awkward because looking back, you're talking about how Daniel is with this, married man and whatever. I don't think there was anything wrong with Danielle's relationship. I don't think there was overlap.

He was separated, just like Amanda's separated now. So I think their relationship is totally valid. And I see a different side of Danielle that I didn't see before. And I think Owen really brings out the best in her. So I think it's a lasting relationship. The group is being a little hard on Danielle in terms of welcoming her back. into the fold with this cast? I think there's a lot of history.

That's the thing. There's good history, bad history. So a lot of things, you know, on reality, you want to acknowledge all that. I mean, I'm being in real life, like everyday life, of course. So I don't, I think everybody's open towards it. Danielle is just that I think there is few issues

from the past that needed to be resolved. And I think that's what I've been happening on this first season of season, of in the city, yeah. It took some time. It took some time. But, you know, I think even Lindsay, she likes Danielle. Like, they have so much history.

Even our wedding, they were like inseparable, you know. So I think, yes, you want to confront her on certain topics. But at the same time, there is a lot of willing to make things work again and be friends again. How will you guys incorporate your children into your TV world? Because I obviously touchy subject. We don't really know what the right answer is. We're constantly having conversations about how we share our kids. It's like we have a relationship with our audience, regardless if we're in control of that relationship or not.

And so sometimes we have certain feelings about like the relationship our audience has with our kids. And again, there's no right or wrong. but do you guys ever talk about that? It's something that we definitely discuss. I think we're still like 11 weeks out, so we haven't come to a decision. But the fact that I'm pregnant, Yvonne's pregnant, Danielle's pregnant,

like we're all going through this together and we're all due within a week of each other, which is insane. So it's going to be really exciting to share this next chapter of our lives and learn like parenthood together. And I think that some, something we would definitely want to show.

Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, also I think that is going to be very last minute, at least for the way I feel. But yeah, the door is open. But of course, you want to go through this old pregnancy and then figure it out. I think that's what we're focusing on. We're living day by day because, you know, it's so important, such a delicate moment. But yeah, there is an open door, but definitely. I think we're going to be having a better idea once the baby's born.

Totally. It's also a conversation that, like, just because you make a decision one day doesn't mean you can't change the next. Yeah, that's right. I'm saying the door is open. Yeah. I mean, we showed our two-year-old daughter River her face until she was like one. And then around one, we were like, okay, she's starting to actually look like who she's

going to look like. Maybe we pull back a little bit. And, you know, I'm pregnant with twins. And so we're like, we'll probably do the same thing. They'll show, you know, they change so much as babies and it's just, yeah, so it's an ever-evolving process. Has a season two been announced for you guys yet? No, nothing yet. There's no award.

Let's assume there's a season two. There'll be a season two. It's a good show. Do you imagine they'll pick up cameras postpartum from all three of you ladies giving? All of our due dates are like end of August or beginning of September. And last fall, we started around mid-September. So you're having a very first. Virgo girl.

Yes. That's so fun. I'm a Virgo girl. Yeah. I wanted a Virgo girl so bad. That'll be so fun. You're going to love it. I'm not sure what they'll do if they'll pick up cameras.

I don't think so. If they'll be in the hospital. There would be overlap with summer hours because, you know, they always go until like, what is, Memorial Day? So they'll wait until after. I believe so. I believe so. Interesting. You wouldn't film your birth?

I don't think so. I think that's a little too personal. Maybe a little. Brow. Yeah. Yeah. Two questions. Who's the most misunderstood cast member of in the city?

And what's a storyline that you wish we would have been able to see that we haven't been able to see as a result of the Scamanda focus? Hmm. That's a good question. Most misunderstood. I mean, I think on one hand you could say Kenny. because when the cameras are up, you see the side of him and, you know, he gets involved in a lot. Yeah, but his dumb is understood because, I mean, I don't know.

I think behind the cameras, like, he's a great guy. He's a very nice guy. It's just some people tend to, like, change a little bit when cameras are up or they act a little bit different. You feel it from him when you guys are filming. Maybe you wish for more drama. I don't know. But that's another thing I told Kenny. I think sometimes you shouldn't get himself involved in every conversation.

Because sometimes, like, even with Daniel a branch, when there was all that all like, not five, but back and forth between him and Lindsay, I don't think he was in the position to really get into that conversation because they didn't really know the history between them. So that's the thing. But yes, outside, as I said earlier, is a likable guy. I really enjoy, we enjoy the time with him and Whitney. So, but he's understood out of him. I don't know. They do a good job of showing everybody. Do you think Kenny's learned his lesson for coming for Lindsay?

Not yet. Good question. Stay tuned. Okay. And what about a storyline that you, we like has since passed that like just didn't make the final cut that. Us so many. I mean, I think in general, just, like, showing more of everybody's lives and, like, work and different decisions. Like, we had a very ongoing conversation about the timing of when to start a family.

And, you know, I was on the fence. I, you know, wanted to be more settled. But at the same time, we have always wanted a family. So we were going back and forth on that decision a lot. And then eventually I decided, you know, there's never going to be a perfect time. So let's just go for it. And so that was like one big thing of us. Because we travel so much.

And, you know, she was really scared about that. But actually, and we've been traveling the whole pregnancy. But she's been actually enjoying that because of the same time we got her distracted. Yeah, it's gone by so fast because of it. Yeah. So I feel like because of the season one, unfortunately, a lot of things didn't get shown. So watching it back, you're like, oh, it could have been. I wish they would have shown.

It's not only about us. It's about everyone. on the show but you know it's a season one so you got yeah i've had experience with winter hours before that the season one got really cut short because it could have been like easily like 10 12 episodes but you know they made a 6 back then and you know you go with it you accept it and you know life goes on well if i can give you any you know our two-year-old has been on maybe 200 flights like oh my god you know like they just adapt to your life

life. Yeah. Just bring them along. Yeah, that's, I mean, what we were talking about. I started traveling so young with my parents. They always took me everywhere, no nanny around nothing. And so I, that's why I felt really comfortable. And I'm glad that, you know, I gave her time because she took a few weeks to think about it. Like, you know, of course, you want to be vocal with your partner. We're vocal with each other.

But, you know, I also want to give her space. And then she is the one that came to me and said, you know what? I feel like I'm ready. And I was so happy. I was like cloud nine and uh well it was a conversation that was had much longer than a few weeks because we had been discussing like since we got married yeah our intention was to like start trying within the first year of getting married but then we had so many different things happen in our lives and one of those big things was the palisades fire because Andrea has a a family member here

in LA yeah she's 93 and she lost her home in the fire and all the family. And all the family. is in Italy so Andrea was the closest and you know it was been really important for us to be near and just like support her and have family nearby yeah and uh so that like impacted us yeah by a lot yeah yeah it did and how is she doing today she's doing good i was getting close so she's working on the team so i'm i'm working with her architect to redo the house yeah i think in the next couple months she's going to be back at it uh she's also have a great support so that's great but you know I felt kind of responsible and you don't see this kind of stuff on reality TV because you know it's not interesting to people but for me for her it was a big it was really

interesting to show support that's why in this past year we've been going back and forth between New York and L.A. as much as possible because you know we want to make sure that everything is fine until she moves back in because you know you losing your house at that age and you know she's been a widow for the last four or five years so so like it's pretty tough so I want to wanted to show support. Because I grew up spending my summers here in LA. You know, LA has always been a big part of my life. So for me, she's always been kind of a grandma,

like a third grandma. And you know, I wanted to be there for her. And I'm glad that she was so supportive and, you know, be on it with me. When you guys aren't making reality TV, are you guys watching any reality TV? Are you fans of the genre? It's funny because we don't watch any reality television.

We watch HGTV. Yeah, HGTV. We know a few things, but we don't really watch it as much. We watch some more like scripted TV shows, like, you know, all of that. But we have a little bit of knowledge, but not nothing crazy. Alexi, do you have like a top design ick or a no-no that like you see people making every day that you wish they wouldn't? Not really because, you know, I think design is really subjective. So everybody has their own taste and their own preference and, you know, whatever makes you

happy and makes you feel good about your place, then that's what's most important. I think for me, I like to push myself and try to do different styles of design because I think a lot of times you see designers, they get in a niche of just doing one specific style, like maybe Chip and Joanna Gaines. You always have that farmhouse shabby, chic kind of vibe. And so I just like to have variety and mixed different design styles. Well, it's great to get to know you guys, and good luck the rest of the way within the city. I'm a big fan of the show.

I really like it. Still more drama coming. Well, not even the drama. I love a good New York-based show. I love to hear that. I love the way the show is producing it, and I love, like, the grocery store scene that we had with, like, Lindsay and Amanda.

Yeah, that was episode one. I like stuff like that. It gives it kind of like a sex-in-the-city element. in a way that I really really enjoy. So congratulations on a really cool show. And I hope you guys get like 10 more seasons like Summerhouse. I'd like to stay in New York if you get 10 more seasons. It's okay.

I mean, I've been there for 12 years. So I can't handle that or 10. Do you know, how well do you know West? I ain't out with him because, you know, I was like a guest on that season. So we hang out a few times. You know, we talk sports. The guy, I mean, forget about this last. It's very likable.

It's very likable. Like, you know, it was very likable, really genuine. So we interact a lot more like, you know, everyday talk. So it's stuff spot to me. But yeah, outside this big scandal, I enjoy the guy, you know. Yeah. But I was never like that close because, you know, we, the last few years, we live on a plane, basically. Well, thanks for coming on, guys.

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We're excited to have you. Off the heels of some Love Island. We thought Jimmy would be perfect to come in and talk some Love Island with us. The first time we had him on the show, he mentioned that before he went on perfect match, that you had a chance to go on Love Island. Was it last season? No, it would have been season seven. So, yeah, last season. Now, watching it, do you have, obviously, we love our Netflix family.

Of course, of course. Are you having any fomo? Are you glad that you did? Okay, you're having a little... A little bit of fomo. Do you feel like you have what it takes to be an islander? I don't think I'm horny enough. Yeah.

Genuinely. Wait, really? I thought, like, I was, you know, like, a respectable level of a freak until I started watching shows like this. Okay, so you actually, you don't, you would be uncomfortable on some of those scenarios. Perfect match. You were kind of a prude? Prude?

Were you? I mean, maybe, maybe, maybe. Maybe. There was a scene. He was locked down. Why did you got to come first, manhood? Well, I mean, I'm just thinking about some shit that went down at the day and the show. Like, there was this underwater camera that y'all missed out on.

He's like, I flocked. He was like, I was beat up in her leg. I don't know. The head was moving off. But no, some of the challenges on that show. Yeah. Like, the way the bombshells come in, it's like, just start making out. Yeah.

Just get after it. Laundre. Yeah, it's like, it's beyond the level of a strip club. Like, beyond. Like, you have to pay so much for that at a. trip club and I don't even think that's legal I'm in Vegas you know listen I'm an older guy you know I'm a dad

now so maybe I look at things maybe you know I want to be a respectful guy I'm not much of a strip club guy but like I don't know if you've ever been to the clubs but like the Casa Amour moment in last night's episode where they bring it those those guys looked like they were giving the energy

of at a strip club no they were giving worse the horniest men who have never seen women before in their lives. They played into every male stereotype like trope of like the way

like sincere was licking his lips. She walks away he's a busom. Yeah. She calls him Lord Fuaqua. He didn't even like

Flinch. He's like I'll be whatever you want me to be. I'm like that's not good. Not good. I got that shit too. And they was all gassing each other too.

Yeah. They're like in their little like bubble and echo chamber how many times it's, Corbin goes Go to work baby. Go to work baby.

go to work. Corby, GPT. Shorty is hilarious. It was a line for the first time. And then he kept saying it. And I also felt like. But it made it seem like that was his like his, his, his, his, his, like, strip club. Well, that was Casey with the, let's play ball.

Oh, yeah. Play ball, Shorty. Casey kind of got in trouble a little bit by some of the girls because he was doing a little too much, you know, like he was smacking some asses and they were like, whoa, don't touch. Yeah. Like, wait, actually. Actually, wait a minute. I'm going to make out.

with you and rub my tits all over your face, but don't touch me. Don't touch me. Oh, my God. Do you know about what's going on with that girl? Alana. No. Do you know about it? No. Tell me more.

She might get kicked off. If you notice, there's three white dudes in a row. And then when it got to Corby and sincere and K.C., she just like did a little dance. That's all you get. Yeah. I woke up this morning, I checked Twitter and I was like, oh, shit. She said the wrong word enough times. She said the word?

Jesus Christ. What's wrong with these people? I wonder if they've got to have. like b-string, you know, like people they send in, because they only had six. Yeah, like the refs waiting on the side in case the ref gets hurt. You know what I'm talking about? No, they definitely do have back-

alternate, yeah. Yeah, for sure. There are people who fly all the way to Fiji who never, I don't know if it happens every season. Wait, that did happen on the show. I guarantee you every year there's people who fly to Fiji who you never meet for whatever reason. Sit in a hotel room.

Oh, that would suck. You're telling all your boys like, yo. I mean, think about it. When, you know, when you're casting for reality TV, show you're always over preparing. You never want to run out of bombshells. So for whatever reason, maybe this girl has an early exit for some of these things

that you're suggesting is out there on the internet. But like, they're never want to be in position where they run out of bombshells. So they're definitely stocking up. 12? That's, honestly, that's a lot, right? I love how they did it. I love how they set it up to like give the men

like, you know, first dibs, so to speak. And they live streamed it. And they gas up the women, get them, you know, amped up. Because they, I feel like they would not have done anything if they hadn't have seen what their men were doing. Right. It would have been very, wasn't it last year? I mean, that's been typical of, you know, it's happened on Bachelor and Paradise.

It's happened on Love Island. Perfect match has done this version of it where they, they switch it up. And it tends to be the women are the ones who are like loyal. The new guys will come in. They don't know, they don't have any report. Tintation Island. You know, have all the guys. but they'll be sitting at one corner of the pool.

The women are just like, I don't know, I'm just going to sit here and prove to my man that I'm like loyal and I'm locked in. Meanwhile, they flash to the other island, they're getting grinded on. That happens. That happened so many times that I love how they...

They were genius. They got ahead of it. Yeah. Kenzie's busted over in the splits on the turf spot of your ass. She took one girl to walk in and Corbyn's like, I'm leaving. With someone else? And all the other guys disrespecting her too and being like,

Oh, Kenzie's out the window. She's gone. What? This is after learning about French fries. Bro, Trinity with her, I can't keep up. What the fuck? Was that just like? Someone had to explain it this morning.

Okay. Finger food. Finger food. I've just never heard. I thought it was kind of funny. I appreciate Trinity's. No, Trinity's so good. She's so funny.

She was like, I never seen a white dick before. That was crazy. That was crazy. It's cute. I don't know if I show you. that you're talking about it's cute they got to play that on movie night because he'll be sick he'll be sick oh so i keep hearing about movie night yeah oh yeah so that's so i think i saw a clip from like you don't know what movie night is no but i think so do they watch back so historically

on love island and it was it was it was a big to do last year because they didn't have it and it's tends to be one of the like favorite moments of the season very much like we saw last night where the women got the live stream usually what it is is guys go to Casa, everyone switches up. It's like watching film. And it's like movie night, and then they get to watch certain clips. They all come back. They all come back to the villa and it's kind of like, what did you do?

What did you do? And it's always like half the truth and everyone like kind of, you know, it's like, well, I didn't do much. And like we kind of, we kissed, but I didn't want to, you know, like I was forced to do this. And it was, it's always a lot of that. And then they play movie night and it's anything but, which then creates a lot of drama. These producers are crafty, though. Yeah. Like the way, like, that was evil, but like so genius to have just sit there and watch.

Also giving them 12 and not, I mean, because they could have obviously sent in six. It's like if you don't have, it's one for each person, you know, and it's like if you don't mesh, it's a lot of pressure. It's a lot of pressure. Like a love rambus or something. But now we get 12. They're appealing to the female gays because they are. They show, they basically showed us all of our worst nightmare of. like men acting disrespectful to the women,

the girls are getting riled up. And then the whole time they're like, bringing the men, where are the men? I'm sitting there so annoyed. I'm like, this is so annoying. These poor girls, this is so crappy. And then when they show the 12 dudes in slow-mo, I was like, oh, okay.

Pulling up on a yacht. Yeah, on a yacht. I'm like, you guys just really wanted to. Yeah. It's like women porn. I don't know. It's like getting revenge in your head where you're like, oh, this is even better.

It's like even better than sex. What is women porn? I mean, I'm asking that rhetorical. I don't know if that's the right term for it, but it's like, it's like arousing for a woman to feel like, oh, it's even better. It's better than sex for a woman. Like that's how I see. I'm like, oh, this is even better than like just getting, I mean, who wants to get grinded on? But you get 12 bombshells.

Pick it the litter, baby. And you already have seen what their bombshells look like. So you're going to have at least two, potentially two men focusing on one, each woman. So they all get to be fought over. And then the other dudes come back. I'm saying it's going to be like a love rambus. Let's rewind a little bit because obviously the last time we talked about it, we still had Soul and Gabe on the show.

They have now left and they've been popping off obviously giving us their insight on what happened. What are your thoughts on the Villa eliminating Soul? Soul was the baddest one and she knew she was the baddest one and she was bad in a unique way that was intimidating to the girls and even intimidating to the boys. because I feel like they were whatever secure, comfortable in a relationship or not, but I feel like they knew she was so bad

that she could get whoever she wanted and I don't think they were willing to put themselves on the line to be with somebody who could who be with whoever they want. Yeah, why do you think ultimately sincere made the move that he did? Do you think it was just playing the game? Yeah, Loki.

Like, I look, see, I feel like I know sincere, you know what I'm saying? I have so many, like, friends, who like want their cake and eat it too you know what I'm saying it's like I got a soft spot for sincere but Melanie was safe to some degree and I feel like and popular in the house yeah but but also like I feel like he was maybe like rapping his head around the fact that like damn maybe I was being a little wishy-washy and like I need to like chill out a little bit so he didn't give soul that chance I wonder if-explanation where he's like I I really like chocolate chip

cookie dough ice cream yeah and that's Melanie and soul is pistachio which I've never had before but I tried it and it's kind of good good good food analogy to explain my relationship choices your chef analogy on your substack the four chefs

gas thanks for reading that man bars that was tough that was tough I was a creative writing minor so I used to focus substack that was tough that was a good one the truff loyal metaphor was gas thanks for the plug Jim

I think you made a good point, though, when you said about, like, she was also intimidating to the women. And it reminded me of last season. Taylor, credit to him, followed his heart. He knew everyone loved Elandria. Wait, don't spoil it for me. You're going to go back and watch season seven? I just got to, they're at Casa Moore right now. You're watching Seaman 7 and 8 at the same time?

And I'm eventually going back to watch six. How much time do you have on your hands? Well, the NBA playoffs over. So I got time. He's got time. But he made a decision when, sorry, he goes with Clark. That's how Nick is with Alandra. No, no, we'll save that.

You can have that. You can have that. You can have that. You can discover that on the ground. Taylor, like, you knew he never, like, recovered in the villa from that choice because Alandria was so popular with the rest of the women in the house. And I think sincere knew that if he went with Seoul, that he would literally be on an island, so to speak with like his relationship

with Saul and feel ostracized not only from you know he I'm sure the men would have supported him but I think he was worried about the women friendship you get our home girl dirty like yeah yeah yeah fuck you that's so true wow but I yeah so do you think there's anything

to just like that natural just toxic love you like I love you but I hate you I need you in my life we gotta like contain the chaos to just us well you mentioned you have a lot of friends like sincere there's just a lot of guys who like I think love the idea of of like whatever Melanie is bringing

to the table in that relationship like like yeah sincere for all the complaining about I don't like the drama he loves the drama he gets off on it he gets off on the push and the pole of Melanie and like how she fights for him and how she need like she you know communicates like this need for sincere in a way that soul was like not like I need you and it wasn't like it was like I can have you you know his ego right there you know and

It's kind of like that, well, how is this person going to be without me, you know, if I don't pick them type of thing? And I think he is drawn to that need of that drama that he pretends he doesn't want. Right. We all, like, everyone says I don't love drama while actively participating in drama. Well, I mean, there's something about that toxicity that I can. It's addicting. It's like literally addicting. Yeah.

Like what I want to know, what is I'm exploring mean? Bro. I think about that in the real world, like applying the, like, the language they use. It's crazy. You know, if you're Kada, exploring means I'm waiting for Zach to, like, step up and really show me he's the type of man that I want. I have a good connection with Zach, but he keeps doing, you know, him and Bryce, all these things.

To me, her saying, I'm still exploring is like, I'm not necessarily to lock in. Casey, on their other hand, him saying, I'm still exploring is kind of like, I really want to find another connection to compare my connection with with with with with a naia like he he actively you he's trying to downplay how much he wants to explore in a way you know what I'm saying where like they're both saying they want to explore but it means completely two different things so you think you think Keda doesn't actually want to explore beyond Zach watching Zach and in and Kada's relationship made me ask the question of like in each relationship that we're watching who wears the pants because usually in these types of like

early dating dynamics. Like I'm always fascinated at how like power is often like given and received. And I think it's transferred pretty quickly from like one day to another where someone just feels a little more confident where that person's like, I really like this person, but there's like that, you know, what if? And then usually what it is, you know, you can tell early on in a relationship, like the person who has a little more power is the one who sounds a little irritated and the person who has a little less power is a little whinier.

Like when you listen to Zach talk, he is a whiny asses. He's kind of like, he's always a little whiny and Kate is always like, maybe I'll go talk to this. I hated that. Yeah, and Kate has, every decision to Zach May just

always line up like with a little bit of like, really? Even like the whole like breakfast thing and she was like trying to like, she was trying to like make a man's like give me a hug, give me a kid. He was like, no, I want to go talk somebody else. He was right.

He was like, yeah, I didn't make you anything this morning. And she's like, oh, okay, he's like, but you can do it yourself. Right. And like think about the inverse. Think about if he was like, oh yeah, go talk to someone so-and-so, go do your thing.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, we're solid. Like, we got a good foundation. Like, if he would have just, like, that suited some confidence, like, that probably would have played super well to Canada. For sure. And that's what she wants to see. She wants to know that Zach is worthy of her.

And because she knows outside of the island, she's doing just fine. You know, she's not like, why don't men like me? You know, there's none of that energy. And she knows that. I think she knows she can get a guy like Zach. And I think Zach is moving, like, wondering as if like, like, I can't believe I got a girl like Kada. And she feels that energy. Even back to when Bryce asked him if he could talk to her.

When Bryce acts, yeah, Zach, if he could talk to a trip on Kada. Yeah. And he, like, laughed at him. But like, now I'm thinking back, it was also probably just like to, like, protect what's his. It's like steer him away. Like, man, that ain't for you. But also, isn't Zach the one that wanted to be open? Like I feel like Kato was more so the one that like she was annoyed when he was he was talking about a bombshell coming in and I'm like you kind of planted the seed like you're the one that was like oh we shouldn't have sex because if a bombshell comes in I don't want you to be mad at me if I explore that and it's like okay then they go to the hideaway yeah and then they do it and then she's been post hideaway they must have had a conversation that didn't air because she's like we've talked about it we've both said we're open we're open so she's like I'm open then and I feel like she took that and was like no like if you want to be so

damn open. I'm going to be open. But that's like, you're the one that's in trouble, not her. She's sticking around. I don't care what anybody says. Also that conversation where she came down and she was like, hey, like, let's go talk. And he's like, no, I'm talking to everyone in the . Oh, are you a child? What do you? And then he's like, then he's recapping it to the boys. And he's like, yeah, I told her to say, please. The recaps, the recaps are what kill me because we see what actually happens. And the way they depicted to like the boys or like to the girls. how you're lying but there's no what happened

what's crazy about that is like that is how we all move in the world like they don't think they're lying they know they're being filmed they know they're being filmed this is how they this is how they this is how they see themselves

and hear themselves in these situations like I do think Casey I don't know where do you stand on Casey and I like people are very divided I loved them and now I feel like like Casey's eyes are wandering and he's afraid to like really admit it. To me, I, I'm very much team Anaya with this because, listen, like, I'm not saying she's moved perfectly, you know?

I understand that, you know, a lot of people out there are suggesting she's being needy or she's being like almost like too high maintenance. But like what she has been clear about her intentions. You say what you want, but like you know what Anaya wants. And it's Casey. And Casey does the thing where he's like, kind of wants Anaya, you know? also kind of wants to be kind of you know and he's so back and forth and when you're someone who's like anaya and you're trying to like figure out like again i've said this from the beginning that kc it's not like he's just like very he's not he's not consistent right he's either saying some

deep meaningful personal shit that makes her like feel like wow this guy really fucking knows me whether it's the the first conversation they had or the letter you know and and and then in between all that it's like well you know I mean, I just, I need to explore, and I just haven't been able to explore yet. Just tell her. Like, the fact that Anaya was like, oh, now you told me you wanted a pulse-o.

Like, that's the honesty that she wants. If I'm Anaya, it would drive me crazy. You're just, you don't know where you stand. And when you don't know where you stand, and like, you know, we always are misusing words like gaslighting, but, like, it's a little like, it's confusing. And then she's being told that she's insecure or crazy or she gets mad at everything.

It's just like she's just trying to figure out Casey's intentions when she's been clear about hers. And I just think in any dating situation, if you're a Naya, it's like we've all been in Naya where we know we're caring. Like it's like, it's like, I don't want to keep being mad. Like I don't like, I don't want to keep. But you keep doing it. And like now she has this choice of this like letting this guy walk all over her and chilling out. It's like now she's like forced it with two bad options. And I don't, like, yes, maybe she's moving it away, but I blame Casey because he's presenting is this, like, thoughtful, considerate guy.

Again, like the whole Acasa thing. How do you, how do you say these things to Anaya and then, like, look like you are a regular at a strip club? Yeah. It was crazy. They all look like regulars. It was so wild. They was so familiar. Like, yeah, Corbyn is, like, work at girl.

like it was like that's what you say as trippers. I will say it was I mean the girls were talented. Yeah, pop off. I mean there is a story. I don't think of credit where credits do. It looks. It's watching the men to watch. I get it. It's Love Island. The bomb shows they're going to come in and they were going to make out and yeah they might

be some ass grabbing but is to the what the women kept saying who are watching it is they're enjoying it too much. Oh and I agree. What they're saying as it's going down. Yeah. It's like they don't exist. They could have sat there like this. But Instead, it was leaned in.

It was what can I touch. Yeah, exactly. High fiving. Fing. Fingers. That was crazy. That shit was jokes, though. Crazy.

That was crazy. They don't know they're being watched. They're with their boys. They're like feeding into each other's egos. And they feel like they got the power. And they just let it go to their heads. Jimmy, how do you think you would have done if you had to come out and dance on these girls? Oh, if I was coming out to, like, do a little show, a little presentation, I would have done my

big one. Like would you, would you have done like a Corbyn or like a Brice? Would comedy be involved or or strictly sexual? I probably would have. I don't know, probably a little bit of both. I definitely wouldn't. Well, that wasn't funny with Bryce. Bryce. It was so bad. If Trinity got to watch that, that relationship would have been over. I wouldn't just like give everybody the same attention. I would be intentional about who I gave my attention to. You would or you wouldn't give. I would be intentional about who I give my energy. Oh, okay. You know who did a really good one a few years? Last year or the year before?

Cordell. Remember? Oh, yeah. Because he was funny. He was funny. And it was hot, but I'm like, there is something really hot about being funny. He nailed the heartbeat challenge.

Perfect example of, like, how you can not be sexual and still not look so awkward and cringy. Tough line. Right. It's a lot. But, yo, Loki, before we move off of what you were saying about, like, Casey's, like, ambiguous intentions or whatever,

that's Loki would. you what I love about Nick on season seven right now. Like he's in these love triangles and but he's like telling the girls like not really rock with you but I do rock with her and like we'll see what happens. Yeah. No. And like it's just being up front. It takes a lot to be to like say that to a girl. Knowing she like really really wants you. Knowing that first conversation she might be disappointed. It's going to hurt her feelings. Yeah. And being mad enough to own that and say it. Yes. nicely but directly. All he had to say to a Naya

early on is like, yo, like listen, I do fuck with you. I really like you. But I really, I want to talk to soul. And I need to do this. And it might be upsetting to you, but I just want to be honest with you. He just downplays it to Naya every single time.

He wants to keep you're happy, but by doing so. Yeah. And I just don't get how all the people are trying to make everybody food tastes good. Now nobody wants to fuck food. She was a bar. Okay, what do you think about Zach and Bryce's bromance?

The internet is kind of taking it to a whole other field. It's gotten weird that they've included so much. They can choose to not edit that part. But that is, to me, I'm curious what you think, because you are Jimmy the basketball player, fresh out of college. Oh, that goes on. You've been hanging out of locker rooms. Right, right.

And so I'm watching this. I'm watching this. And yes, the producers deciding to show all these little moments, that's just the producer choice for us to like have some fun with. That's them being on Twitter and Reddit and reading everybody. But as a straight guy, I'm just watching two adolescent straight men.

Now, the fact that Bryce is 29 and still doing this shit. Well, what's weird to me is that they're strangers. Like, you do get close to people really fast. But like, just show another man you meet like that. Just like, yo, bro, check it out. But I didn't think of, I didn't think other than like my, you know,

I probably did that shit at 19. Definitely does some wild shit. And then everyone's like, and then to bring it up again later. Like, Zach was thinking about it. Zach was like so, man. Like, that was, you see, that's a long stage. They're stretching him out on a bed, like hitting his hammies. Like, it's just a lot.

It's funny because I was at dinner with Demari last night and we was talking about it. And of course, like, speak the same language. You play ball, I play ball. So, like, you get closer to people. You can start to crack certain jokes. And he always said, bro, cut that shit out, bro. But like, if you know, I don't know, like, it's like a certain culture, certain communities, like, it's like, what the fuck really going on there? But like, if it's just on some funny stuff.

But I wonder if, you know, Bryce 29, he's been a model living in. L.A., man. He's been in L.A. And I, I wonder he just, he's never, I, I, to me, I'm watching Bryce and Zach because, like, I watch and go, I don't know, I just seem 19 year old me maybe doing that shit. To me, that just tells me that maybe Bryce and Zach have never had male friendships like this. Maybe they didn't play sports or they've been in locker rooms and, like, bonded with men in a way that, like, now you're seeing this side of them come out. Oh, this is kind of like adorable then. I know.

Good for them. I know. For real. Did Charlie ever respond to you roasting him on? That was harsh. What happened? He came for Charlie. He has a strong, committed following.

Like, his people came from. me a little bit. Yeah, they were like, yo, not too much on Charlie. I'll back, back, my bad, but he do got to learn how to shoot the ball. Oh, that video. I did see that. That came across my desk. He should be good at soccer, though, like, right? I made it a sticker, him in the air. Dude, it was so bad. It was a tough beat.

It was so bad. But he is, Zach is his brother, so maybe they're not an athletic family. Is that right? Is that right? You've got that conclusion, but like, I do think there's somebody who said that men at a, young age hanging around other men like I don't know just I don't you women don't you get close and like talk about some personal shit

fascinating think about like you're not like cognizant that like you're exploring your sexuality or anything but like you're just with the boys all the time like shirts and skins like when I was in high school and we had to take showers I was I was wearing that bathing suit I was like high school before I was wearing a bathing suit in college there was this moment where you're like everyone's naked in the shower you're like

I guess I guess and you're like I guess and you come walk in naked and you're looking around there's just dicks everywhere and like it's like a moment we're like all right i guess i'll here we go yeah i'm gonna be brave yeah and you kind of walk in and you're looking around you're like i'm good overly confident i don't give a fuck walking around you're the freshman on the team like and and part of the weirdness and the commentary is the awkwardness you feel and friends start kind of like you know should anyone do a little towel whip there's all of that shit yeah and i wonder if bryson's Zach never got to do that shit.

And now you see Bryce and the closest thing he's ever been to to a locker room with a bunch of bros. And this is what you're saying. It could be. I also think that everyone is just so horny. Yeah. Dude, they are freaked out. They are freaked out.

And most of them aren't actually having sex. Like some of them are, but I'm like, if you've all that sense of sexual, they're all fluffers. All fluffers. Fluffy. I'm stealing that. It's when you look around though, I'm like, well, everyone's just. being so sexual so maybe they're just leaning into the spectrum of sexuality you know what i mean

like i don't know which one of them was like yeah my dick's hard oh wait i don't know if i heard that yeah yeah that i don't know if he said it like that when the girls were dancing on him or something and it was like a hard hat he's like it's not the only thing that's hard yeah yeah like that was a good line i liked when corbin not corbin caleb came out he said put your legs up yeah that was up i got a feeling he's going to grow on me i got a feeling he gonna grow on me he honestly He has swag. And I'm like kind of shocked by it. I didn't think he would.

But the way he went about all six of those women was so swaggy. He ate that shit up, did way better than Zach. I mean, Zach throwing that girl in the air. I was like, be careful. No, real, really throwing her. Really throwing her. Like med ball workout. Yeah, yeah.

She had to have been scared. I was scared for her. What do you guys think about? Sol has done some lives and after son. And she did a live. Oh, she made a comment that she didn't really believe in the relationship. Paraphrasing that she was downplaying what she thought was the connection between Bryce and Trinity. And then a lot of Trinity fans found that to be upsetting because obviously they're, you know,

I think it's more out of support for Trinity. And Sol was just like, yo, I'm just like, she said that, you know, maybe she's paraphrasing, maybe she's just amped up, but she suggested, not even suggestion, she said that Bryce pulled Kada like five or six times. That's crazy. So even though we saw two rejections, she's claiming that there were even more occasions where Bryce tried to pursue Kada and still got rejected.

So she's speaking from a place of, I don't know, you're a guy, right? When you like someone, it's not that confusing. Depends, though. Like, am I in a relationship with, like, a Trinity while I like somebody else? Okay, yeah. Like, I'm looking at Bryce and Trinity.

They've been together from the jump, from the beginning of the episode. I'm beginning the season. So I'm speaking from that point of view that he's invested all his time, he's, I guess, got rejected a few times by Kada. At this point, you should know if this is someone you're really into.

And if you are still exploring your feelings, then I think you know that you're trying to have a connection more than there is a connection there. And there is the TV element. Like all these, like the sincere picking Melanie over soul, like they know, they all have a bond like that the OG group

of having each other's back is palpable and I think that like plays into their all of their decisions and I I do think Bryce has like low key

like moving in a way that's like kind of leading Trinity on I don't know you think he'll you think he'll switch up for no I don't I don't think

I don't think Bryce has the guts to actually do that yeah but like if he if he wasn't being filmed you think maybe yeah I think I do feel like if they were to

I feel like they're finding common ground and they're finding ways to fall for each other but it's like in real life I just feel like it would not have even gotten to this point between them I also just think that

age gap the communication barrier I just think I think so many people like so few people are everyone saying it's love island I want to find a connection I'm like you want to find a little bit of a connection

but like most of you especially the guys they want to go on the show get famous and then go have the time of their lives post show like it's a thrill like I don't think most of these people are going on the show to like find a love connection actually. So I think

maybe he does like Trinity. I mean, I'm sure he likes her. But like maybe he is really in this relationship and he would be so down in the real world. But he's like, I've got the world at my fingertips. Like hot bombshells are coming on and girls are shaking their ass. Like why would I lock down anything regardless of who it is? Because it's maybe. But I also feel like none of these bombshells are going to go for Bryce. And he knows that. He even said that about something. I was like, I don't have, not six four two-thirty like Corbyn. He's punching up.

I do. To defend the Islanders a little bit, I do think you can both be aware of the opportunities that come from these shows. And I think in this environment that's super intense and super hyper-focused,

I still think you can want to find someone, you know? And I don't think. Like to lock down with you think, really? Like guys? I'm not so much of a cynic that these guys are faking all their feelings

because they want to to leave the island single is all I'm saying and I think they can I think they can be aware of these opportunities and I think they can have these thoughts cross their mind but still like be intentional I mean you still have how many couples from season six still together you know like you have some real relationships but even outside of like leaving the villa but just being there like just the opportunity to explore like like I like I I find it hard to believe that the guys like actually don't want to explore even if they're in the like even Zach and Keda like him having the most beautiful woman there and being like,

but what if a bombshell walks in? It's like, it's hard. Like, I get it. I get it. But I'm also like, I don't know that anybody's like dying to close off and not be open to the experience. The women seem more intentional in general. Yeah.

I think men and women, when they're moving slow early on, move differently. Different speeds. Because I think even if a guy wants to move slowly, usually that's a guy saying, I want to know about like, do I like hanging out with?

you do we have fun together i just most you know men are just they you know they think with their dicks so to speak right so even when they want to move slow they're still like i'm like i want you you know they're still like you know they could they can get physical and want to move slow where women are often are like hey i i want to move slow and i want to wait on the physical because they're you know women tend to be a little bit more in control of how they move physically because once they usually lock in physically. They're really locked in where men could just have sex with anything and still be like, well, that was just the sex, but I want to move slowly about the relationship.

Bryce is moving both slowly physically and emotionally, and that's the part from a guy's standpoint that is like harder to read. Are you not serious about her? Like at a certain point, after enough conversations, after enough days, like, yeah, you know at a certain point. But, you know, they did start showing Trinity and Bryce making out in the bed going, you know, at night. So maybe they're hot and heavy at night

and we're just not seeing it. And there is that because we did not see Zach Polkata six times and get denied. Yeah, we definitely did it. Those are bad shots at a certain point, too. It was a bad shot from episode one when he rolled over and she's like, no. He's still shooting him, though.

That was crazy. He came to him right now. Immediately like, we're brother and sister. Yeah. I'll never look at you. But I feel like the, damn, I just lost my thought. I think about Trinity and, oh yeah, Trinity and Bryce.

The people that are defending them, they all keep talking about the slow burn of them. And I just don't resonate with that because maybe it's because I'm a guy. And like when I know, I know and like there is no slow burn when it comes like that physical intimacy. It's like it's there. It's not. I feel like the women now are going to be so empowered to like fuck these men. Dude, I'm so excited. Me too.

I'm actually. I did not think I could get this invested in. reality TV and this show got me like bottom ball. The fact that they made us wait until tonight to even see the women be introduced to the men. It's good stuff. It's giving big setup. Big setup.

And we do know that producers are reading Reddit and they're reading internet discourse. Oh, are they? Yeah. They definitely pay. Okay. Okay. Well, you have thoughts. Put it out there. That comment. So they might see my video. Yeah. It was definitely not a coincidence that one of

the guys called Corbyn and AI guys. Yeah. Yeah. Because they're, oh my God. There's no fucking way. Those guys in the island are that. Came up out of it.

Wait, so they're definitely seeing the, the narratives about Bryce and Zach too. And they're trying. Someone planted that seed. It's hilarious. They have every lunch. I know y'all watching. Lunch off.

They like go to lunch that's not filmed. Right? Like girls separate, guys separate. They go to lunch. You know, those like ITM that you guys are doing. And then they also, what is it? They have like one day off a week, I think.

Yeah. It's not being aired. Yeah, it's not being aired. They have one day off a week. And so you know there's some production assistant. Some, someone, they're like, come on. Like, what are they saying about me? What are they saying?

They're like, Corbin is a robot. He's AI. They're calling him Corb GBT. Something was sad. Someone said something because the way that they said that, there was just no way that one of those guys came up with that. There's just no way. Yeah.

And I love that they, so that I'm just thinking about it. So they definitely agree that Trinity is like her star. to herself. Like they use her for all the sound bites, all her reactions. She's the coolest person in the video. Dude, she's just, she has this like incredible,

like balance of like being real but like lighthearted. Like you gotta take her serious when it's time to take her serious. But like, she's like, I want to watch this. Yeah, no, no, she's like, yeah,

I want to watch all of it. Her literally being like, she's a baddie. Like all the, she doesn't have the tities, but she's a bad. She has a bad. She has a bad.

She's so cool. She's not a jealous girl. She's not petty. She doesn't go low. She can. She can, you know. But she was like, if y'all want to talk shit, we can do that. Yeah.

But I love that she, because so many of us, like guys will get met at other guys for moving on our ladies and ladies will get met at other women for moving on their men. And Trinity is like, no, I'm not going to hand on the women for doing their part. Yeah. I'm going to hold the right people responsible. And that's a level of maturity that we don't always see that. And she told Bryce. She's been very consistent. I'm not fucking with that.

Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Like you saw Kinsey be like, I could have done that dance way better. Yeah. Like, it's all kind of like And Trinity's just like, she's a baddie I don't know, she's like, fuck these

Loser ass guys Kedzy and Kate him over there like, fuck you. The way Kenzie feels lust-shamed. I'm not lustful. I'm not. I'm not full of lust. She went to every single person in the island. She's a character.

She is. That was funny. She just wanted to be the split. I've been waiting my whole life. Yeah. She literally said that. That was a reality TV producers There's nothing better than a reality TV producer loves better is the buildup and then the

disappointment to get someone like amped up that they they get excited to get to do something and then you pull the fucking like rug out of them and then you get that whole just like silly reaction to like all them practicing in the glam. Mind you they're all dressed as like a sexy nurse like sexy nurse hot firefighter crying like it's like when you get in a fight with your boyfriend and you're just like now I feel stupid. I got broken up with with only a t-shirt. Don. You did?

No, Nick. Oh, you did? That's rough. That's tough. Yeah. There's some trauma there. It's a unique humiliation, you know, and I feel like that's what the girls went through. They're just sitting there and there's sexy little outfits.

Melanie was like, oh, my God, my hat trying to make everybody feel better, do her a little dance. Yeah. So who do you think, if there's any, do you think any couples are going to survive, Casa? I think Bryce and Trinity. I can see Bryce and Trinity. Because I don't think any of these bombshells are going to go for Bryce. And I don't think he's going to have the chance to, like, explore. And he's going to use that to his advantage.

You'd be like, see, Trit. Yeah, on God, that part. He's definitely going to use that as like, see, I stayed faithful. Now, you're going to have motion. Yeah, none of them. All of them were giving Kada. None of them wanted to fuck with you. These bombshells are, they've been able to watch.

They've been watching all the women, and they've been watching sincere move with Melanie and soul. They were like, they're a little too locked in. That is an element. These bombshells do. get to watch so they know the reputation that these men have. But there definitely is like the producers like, you should go stir that up a little bit. Oh, for sure. Right.

For sure. Because they're like, what I can't, I still don't know the bombshells names like yet. But one of them was like I got my eyes on Casey. Like she going in there. She won't him. No doubt. There are conversations with these incoming bombshells being like, yo, America is frustrated with people being locked in.

There's too much coupling up. You guys have a fucking job to do. come in here shake shit up do your fucking job i don't know if they're saying it like that friendly neighborhood spider man there you go get i'm sorry no there's definitely like some words of encouragement in that department for sure i just i just know to like kansi like girls gonna do their big one i can't wait for this next episode i just hope obviously even k to two though i feel like they kind of have a little bit of a reputation of just like not really bringing in that attractive of men for casa more like it's always like love island has that rep yeah it's always like you know

the bombshells are usually pretty hot and then like Casa guys you're just kind of like you're like guys they're like better. What like six? But I also like the fact that there's 12 maybe I also think that the the men bombshells are at a disadvantage

because guys again like yeah because girls they're simple and stupid they're lustful they walk in but we have Gabe Corbin and Caleb are three bombshells who if those three came in as Casa guys it would be like

yeah game like those are like some tall in the previews for some of these men I was like I mean maybe I need a little more camera time but yeah but I'm just saying the women the women aren't as they don't react to the abs as much as the men react

to the asses so to speak and so now they have a rapport with all these men and the in the bombshell men have to come in and do the slow burn thing and they can't come in all aggressive. How much time do they have? It sounds like a week.

A week? A week? I don't know if it's a full week and like react. Oh, in like real world. In real world. I think they have like three or four days. Enough of time to like do some. Okay.

But yeah, they're just like in it. Because like on our show we were at singles mixer for a couple hours. And look what happened there. You guys had a little. All I know is Anaya. Anaya better like, like. Low key. Let go.

Anaya needs to. She needs to back it up because she, we, she, she, we ended that episode. Like everybody's talking tough right now she's like yeah she's talking tough she's talking a big game she should I want her to right I wanted to go out there and and I'm just afraid like that they're gonna be in their own heads about like they owe the boys something like like you don't you just saw clearly like yeah they're doing they big ones already go to work like let's go to work yeah check ball yeah it was a sad when they were just like let's just go make grilled cheeses. Those do look really good Melanie makes a great grilled cheese I keep seeing him at the end of the night and I'm like I want one. I love the breakfast in the morning And I like on season 7 And now on this season like

There's like a little beef there Like who makes who breakfast It adds to the pot That's like part of the love language Like I'm learning And it's like oh you brought a little Heart-shaped pancake for Kinsey Bro the hood of situation last season

Where The protein The pancake Oh and she didn't like it was cooked Yes For Iris or something right Yeah I mean listen they have nothing else to think about

worry about you guys watch summer house too yeah is it one of those like you have to watch like season one to like get invested no no not really no I started this season invested now yeah bravo shows are it's pretty easy to like tap in like wherever it is they always play flashbacks and things like that um Allison put me on to a Vanderpump

and the scand of all stuff holy shit holy shit that dude is crazy he's a menace He don't give a fuck, dude. That was great. So you and Allison are still together. Yeah, we're kicking it. Oh.

Are we like, do we have a label yet or are we still doing the no label thing? We're not there. What is? I'm still exploring now. I'm thinking. What are you then? We are. He's like, I haven't had this conversation for her yet.

We are still figuring it out. Okay. When is this airing? No, I'm just kidding. You guys tomorrow. You're here in L.A. Is she with you? Yeah.

I'm staying at her spot. Oh, okay. But if he were to like, say, go to Miami and then like go to the club. Yeah, I don't know. Like if you were to go to the club and you... Oh, no, that'd be bad. That would be bad. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, so what do we call that? Oh, yeah, what do you call that? Maybe you're just a good guy. Loosely exclusive? Yeah. I feel like you can, like, not put a label on something, but also, like, treat someone respectfully, you know? For sure.

Yeah. I understand. That's what I'm giving him credit for right now. But labels, we have labels to give people, like, the peace of mind to not have to kind of wonder. Totally. No, it's where I stand. We're due for a comment. What can you do?

She said, it's just talking a little premature. I might be talking to her later. Yeah, I'm just like, I'm just wondering. No, she was just in Chicago with me for the week and we had a gas, like, showed her summertime shy. And then I just got back from Vegas on a bachelor trip, which was OD. But, uh...

What happened to Vegas stays in Vegas? Yeah, but like, I'm not that, I'm not that type of... Did you go to Rhino? Rino, yo. Spearmine Rino. So I got it in Friday. They went Thursday. I heard I missed a night.

I bet you did. I missed at night. You did. I bet you had a customer one out. Go to work, girl. Go to work, girl. Play ball. That's crazy.

Well, thanks for seven or season six of Love Island. Because everybody's telling me I need to watch season six. Season six was like made it. Season six was what made it popular. Before season six, it wasn't anything to what it was now. I saw one viral clip on Twitter that I watched and I'm mad that I watched it. But I don't have any context, so it'll still be good to watch. But like, Rob, had some moment.

They were like, no Rob, no Rob. He was like, I can't help, but it's some shit. He like, got up in the pool. In the pool. Was that? No, he's like on the couch. Somebody got voted home and he was just like. Oh, yeah.

When they voted. No, man. I was like, oh, shit. Yeah, you got. Yeah, you got some touch enough to do. Six is really good. I mean, six, seven and eight have been, have been pretty good. Yeah.

Well, Jimmy, thanks for stopping by, man. Yeah, thanks for having. It's a lot of fun. I'm in this world now, man. You weren't in it. You weren't in it. Well, come back anytime you want to talk to reality TV. You've been fun to shoot the shit with, man.

I got one more question for you. Who has the best aura and who has the worst aura? Yeah. In the villa. I've been thinking about oral farming. Angola. Soul had the best aura. And the girls try to water it down.

Not cool. And the boys, low-key, bro, Corby. Why? Low-key guys. He kind of, just the way he carry himself. Like, he is a little cringy, but, like, uh he just you see the innuit you know what i got yeah i got what you're saying the other i suppose it's more like the other men seem to be too they just maybe don't have the aura so like so it just

falls on corb you know what i'm saying none of them have it yeah it's it's a i don't know because like you could have it and then you can do too much you could lose it what did you think of gabe like i thought sincere had it initially Gabe he was just horny as it's like just freaky as fuck and i think casey would have it if he would just be more up on casey casey had it like i wanted to say Casey, but then he started doing this whole like, I don't know, just treating his girl kind of sideways. And it kind of comes across as like he's unsure of himself a little bit, like what he wants. And that's not aura.

Gabe would have loved Casa Amour. He would have thrived. He would have thrived. Oh, my gosh. He would have been the fluffer to the fluffing. Yeah. Fluffer. That's just so funny.

Dude, what I love about these shows is for real. Like, I feel like I attach myself to people that, like, I know in the real world to these people. Yeah. So like with Gabe, I feel like I was not, I give him a fair shot early because he like just came in and was like horny like the language barrier. Like the way he communicates is different. Now I'm learning about him. I'm like, oh, he's just misunderstood, man.

He reminds me so and so like. Yeah. So then you like, you want for him back. Yeah. He got slut shamed a little bit. He did. I did. Where can people find you?

Enjoy all your good stuff. Jay Soto's one on Instagram. Talking Love Island. Recaps. Thanks for coming back, man. Thanks for having me. All right. It's fun.

I was listening in and I thought I was proud of you for bringing. bringing up war farming. I think about it ever since we had Jimmy on before. I think it's a good perspective to have of like, why do that when it will ruin your aura, when you could do this when it will benefit your aura? You know, like it's a good mindset. But do you think people are that conscious of their aura?

No. And the people that aren't don't have good aura. People that aren't, it shows. I would imagine there would be a lot of people, even people listening to the show who know of me, who don't think I have good aura at all. Well, I think that's where you have to, like, farm. So now you're trying to farm.

So now you can improve your aura now that you know that. I would, but honestly, like, attribute a lot of the success I've had post-filming reality TV on not listening to the people's opinions about my aura. I had one bachelor person come up to me and say like a nice, you know, compliment me on some successes that we had. And they were like, what, like, what do you think you've done that like some of us haven't done? And honestly, I was just like, I just think I'm more resilient. Like, I just think I kept showing up. I didn't like let the hate or the criticism or like people like saying shit affect my belief in myself.

But yeah, so how do you balance that? No, I mean, I guess you're right. Like I think aura farming is more reputational or like perception. So it is based on people. I mean, listen, your brand matters and like how people perceive you matters. And it is that whole dance of. Here's the thing. I actually think that I probably have bad aura.

Like weirdly. I don't think you do. I don't know. Like, good vibes, bad aura. Like, if aura has anything to do with, like, cool points, you know what I mean? Like, I don't think I'm carrying, like, cool aura with me. You know what I mean? But, like, vibes high.

Vives are high. And, like, I think a part of it is, like, on one hand, I am, like, in recovery for, like, people pleasing. That's what I say. Yeah. Like, in deep therapy, like, have been for two years. And in some ways, like, it feels like a little people-pleasy to be, like, aura-farming. and be like, oh, I'm going to do this, so I gain aura here. And I think that I have lived that way, but I still don't have like the cool points.

But I think I care about the perception. And I'm trying to like fight against that at times. Yeah. But I could use more aura elsewhere. I do think also like people gain aura from authentically doing things that are good. You know what I mean? And not everybody's just farming it to like do it for their reputation. I just think some people have good aura.

Some people are homesteading. Am I homestead an aura? Or what am I, one of my homesteading vibes, maybe? Homesteading vibes. Like, I'm not. Do you have past trauma from your bachelor relationships? Is that getting your head about your aura? I don't know.

Like, I don't know if it's related to my aura. Maybe. I definitely have past trauma. Like, what do you want me to unpack right now? I will literally say anything. So you caught me on a good day. What do you want to know? Speaking of aura, before we get into the aura of the ladies of Rhode Island and talking about the

reunion, we watched a new show on Hulu called Million Dollar Nanny. I need to hear. I'm intrigued, I will say. I've only watched one episode. Oh, my gosh. It's ridiculous. And I mean that in potentially the best way, because I am so fascinated about how they even got this show made.

The premise of the show is like these high-profile nannies. Okay. That they've worked with so many high-profile rich, even some celebrity clientele. I don't know their ages, but they're. all seemed like in their early to mid-20s. And it's... Semi good-looking? Yeah.

Okay. Wait, I'm also like confused about because someone was Courtney Cardassian's nanny or something that was like when you Googled her, it came up. And she was like, well, I signed it NDA so I can't speak about it. And I do know who Courtney Kardashian's nanny is. And she has been their nanny for like so long that I'm like, when was this? Maybe an assistant. Well, I don't know.

That's the thing. I have so many questions. And I'm definitely like intrigued. No, me too. The second they announced the show, and by the way, I'm eating it up, but the second they announced it, Mary and I were talking, and I was like, do NDAs not exist? Because, like, this concept to me is, like, I guess they are being secretive of who they've worked with. But, like, these families are coming on the show to be reality stars now.

Also, the fact of families that they're nating for, I'm like, who is this clientele? Because I kind of think that, like, if you have enough money to have, like, a high-profile nanny like that, you don't need any kind of fame or show that it's really only going to possibly, stir up drama. Well, the first family, we only watch one episode and the first family they got introduced to us.

They're not, Mama, the grandmother, she, self-identified influencer, which is, she's hilarious. But it's a, they're both dentists

and they seem like they're just like a very wealthy family. Like, they're not like, celebrities. Multi-millions. Okay. So that makes sense

like they would be the type of family that would be intrigued about the idea of getting some like TV notoriety and maybe that's how it works, it worked out. But yeah, it's like,

Okay. I'm just trying to figure out, well, one, like, when it comes to parenting, like, that is a topic. It's the thing I love the most in life is, like, being a dad. And it's a topic that, quite frankly, even on the show, I would love to talk about more. It is just obviously a very sensitive topic. Every topic, everyone has a strong opinion on. And when it comes to, like, child care, it's also a hot button topic about, like,

people sometimes don't want to talk about the child care they have or the child, you know, or what that child care looks like. So we are getting potentially, I am fascinated about how they're going to air this stuff because so many, the topics they're talking about are, quite frankly, the topics we don't really talk about

in like the zeitgeist of celebrity families and people who are parents, but also have child care. And then they talk about what that child care looks like or how involved in their lives. So I'm just like fascinated from that aspect. That's what's so fascinating because, A, it's a reality TV show.

Everything's being filmed. And they're talking about, about NDAs and they're talking about how important discretion is all while filming and telling us about the interaction. So I'm just like, what are we doing here? But nevertheless, intrigued. Yeah, some of the families also are like influencers that have platforms. So like there's the three dads that are one of the families. So I think some of them like it's cross-provision. I haven't gotten that far yet, yeah. I think some of them are also just like rich families that are like, oh, let's just have a fun little like season on a reality TV show or whatever. But there's a, you're ahead of it. You're so spoiler. There's one of the nannies slept with a dad? Well, so, I mean, we know this from the trailer. And I've seen some headlines. Yes, that one of the main nannies, I mean, should be like, can I spoil? It's out.

All the episodes are out. I also haven't finished. So this isn't a full spoiler. But so Leah, the one that created this agency of, like, friends in a visa, she basically gets out that she had slept with. Well, the story initially is that she slept with a dad of one of the kids she was nannying. Criminal. So that's what it starts out with.

Then the nannies start talking about. in the friend group and then she has to then clarify wait no that's not actually the story i was friends with a guy that had kids and then he needed someone to nanny and then i nannied the kids and then i slept with him yeah was so it's a little single what is the difference she was nannying the kids for both right right so i mean i mean i guess it doesn't make it better as he's a divorce man yes he's divorced okay yes he's so it's not so he's not so he's single so anyway so it's not as That is it sounds, but it's also kind of like whatever. But the drama, what it is, is that there's another girl Taylor.

Love that girl down, but she's a hot mess. In the sense that, like, she gets, like, the best parent to nanny for. Like, someone that's very, like, female friendly, like, empowering. And then, like, on her first day, she, like, leaves the kids with a different nanny to go talk to her boyfriend on the beach. She, like, gets fired. And when she gets rehired, she basically talks to, I think, the mother's name is Nicolette, maybe. And she's talking to her, and she's like, oh, yeah, by the way, there's a nanny.

this group who slept with a dad. And then that spreads like wildfire across the island. So like this obviously clearly makes the making for an amazing reality TV show. It's messy. They open the show talking about how they're like they're the best of the best. You know, they're so good.

They're the one percent of nanny. And they're all like 20 somethings. I'm not aware of any of them are parents, but maybe they have some incredible nanny advice. I'm excited to hear about. Can I keep explaining how the story kind of unfold. And this isn't spoiling, but it's just very fascinating. So basically, Nicolette,

this one mother finds it out. She starts telling other people. She's like, oh, I told someone in passing, like, you know, like... But of course, then that gets picked up. And it's picked up and picked up. So anyways, there's another mother where basically it's kind of like the midseason. They're at a party where they brought... They bring the nannies to these elephant parties. So it's kind of like a networking thing too. And Leah, this person made the agency, like made a comment about secrets or whatever. And then this mother that knew that she has never interacted with. The mother goes, well, be careful because I know your secret. And then just walks off.

And then Leah doesn't know people know this. So she's like, oh my God, storms off. And it's literally production being like, it's fine. It's not the end of the world. They're talking to staying. But she's literally like, this is my reputation. This is my brand. This is everything.

And then basically that comes out. And then she also, so the first family, Leah ends up working for a kind of a spoiler. And that's the family that's like the most trick. It was like very conscious and scared of like nannies sleeping with fathers and being too sexual. And she's basically like, oh my God. I have to like snitch on myself because it's going to get around. So she goes to this this mother and she's like, so by the way, there's this like rumor or fault like going around about this, but this isn't the situation.

So you like see that fall out. And then there's like a whole coop and they take over the agency with a different nanny. But Leah is the one that has connections. That's a lot. That's a lot. And I like that you just said, there's a poop that they take over the agency with a different nanny. Yep. The guy.

The boy nanny. So it also talks about the nuance of like male nannies. A manny. A manny, if you will. They're like, yeah, he's a male nanny. Well, there's a, there's a gay manny and a straight manny. Yeah. But there's, they're also, like, TikTok famous.

You know, like, they're, like, they're showing them, like, their TikToks with, like, these, their kids that they're nanny. I just, like, don't ever know in what world, like. Yeah. Also, that's what I'm so fascinated because, again, the world, like, if I ever have a nanny. Clearly, everyone has, there's so many different opinions about parenting. There just is, you know, everyone just does it differently. And that's why I'm just, I'm curious if the show gets popular. I think it will.

And if it gets popular, I will be fascinated because, like, I mean, we try to talk about parenting and, like, we're so, you know, we just know that, like, just because we do it one way doesn't mean it's the right way or the best way. And other people might just, like, think of, you're in charge of your own kid. It's your family. Blah, blah, blah. But, like, people have opinions. And if this show, like, busts out, I just can't imagine how there won't be just, like, So much commentary on just like parenting and nannying and like the choices these parents are making and how these nannies show up or don't show up and how they move. It's a great recipe.

By the way, Natalie, one of the contracts, like the family is like this nanny must be able to appear on camera or our TikTok. So I think it's kind of like some of them want that. They know they're all buying into the process. The kids want to be a part of it. It is fascinating that the kids are on camera. What were some of the nanny qualifications? Should I run through them? This is based off of the first episode contracts.

but personal assisting and grooming for the daddies. So that's like spray tanning. It says dad. It says dad. Grooming for the daddies? Yes. Well, they are the daddies, but like the daddy's family. But also it's just saying grooming.

So like spray tanning, shaving, whatever they need. Children. Wait, the nannies are doing that for? The men? Yes. No, actual grooming or they're setting up a grooming appointment. Like they're the ones spray tanning them and cosmetic preparation, grooming, styling, makeup hair, spray tanning.

Who are these people? Who are these people? And also, like, I'm so sorry you're not Frigating their husband. Yeah. So they all these nannies have, or these parents have different requirements. So along with this family, there's also children's glam. So wardrobe hair and makeup.

Children's glam? Yes. Glam is crazy. Must be able to swim 500 meters into the open ocean. I could do that one. That's a good nanny qualification. And this family also had the must be able to appear on family social media. So the next one, which is a strict family, Ms. Wills.

Her is said must align with Ms. Wills'esthous aesthetic in public. So she like has her nanny. dressed in all white and like specific uniforms. Cute. Effortlessly embodies health and wellness, so she doesn't like tattoos on people. The client seeks to cultivate independence, especially independence from men and patriarchy. Love. Okay.

How do you enforce that? Yeah. It's basically like, you better believe this. Or you're not getting higher. Yeah. Or be a good liar. So actually, this is the female empowerment. So I had it wrong.

This is not the strict one. This is the female empowerment one who wants like female to feel, women to feel empowered. Yeah. She also said must be willing to get. wet and dirty. Oh, purely. But I think that means like, oh shit and sand. I came that way.

So the strict family had emotional intelligence clause. So the nanny agrees to read the room at all times. Sing lullabies and care and precision. Maintain a demure presentation. So this is the white uniforms. Arrange all food with chopsticks, Louis Vuitton chopsticks. And must match the family's daily aura. There we go.

And that's how we tie it all back into Jimmy Sotos. And she had to text the family like every 10 minutes or 30 minutes to like. update her on the kids. Well, that I am. Definitely. That is, like, wild to me. I can't get past the grooming statement of the daddy.

And is it specifically says daddy? Daddy's, there's three. Justin. It's like a thruple. I have a question for you. Would you take that job to live in a Beezza? I would take it.

I would work for any of them. Yeah. Just for, like, the storyline. But you, like, don't even like children. I will groom the daddies. I'm not groom the daddies. He's a nanny just to the parents. That doesn't even have to be around children at this point.

There was one line where they were like, we get to nanny whenever we want. What was it? When you get to nanny on your own clock or something, I'm like, that feels like that doesn't make sense. Like, I feel like you're nannying on someone else's clock when they need a nanny.

By the way, that's the drama too, though, because there's some nannies that don't take it as seriously. So there's other nannies that went to a visa and put all their life savings there and didn't get a job. I'm going to be honest. These people are like, this is what I want, like, my career. And it's like, you're not going to get another job after this show.

That's what I think too. Like there's, unless the family wants, like, a reality TV star nanny. But who does? It is very, it's so, yeah. Only anybody that's on this show, I think, would want that. In my opinion, I would never want my nanny to be a social media person and put my kids out there. Like, Genevieve doesn't help us with River because she's a reality TV star. She actually should apply for the show.

It's a good story. Actually, yeah. Like, honestly, I wanted her to watch the first time. So where she was like the G's or whatever. Oh, the G's, that's her name. Yeah. She was like, your red nail polish is like too bright. You need to do a neutral.

And she was like, and then why are you wearing all of this cleavage? Also, I need you to read this book in Spanish. And yes, arrange the children's food with chopsticks. You do not touch them with your hands. Let me see how you use chopsticks. Oh, my gosh. I need to watch this. The show is incredible.

I wish I had the balls to be that kind of person. like the mommies. The mommies. I wish I had... Do you really want to be that person? You want that mommy and you? Maybe somewhere between where I am and they are, you know? Yeah.

Because like, I wish I just had a little bit of that. To be that bold to say that to somebody? No, it's wild. You're nanny. It's wild. Yeah. To call them out on their nails and their cleavage. I mean, I'm just hiring an ugly nanny is what I'm doing.

That's crazy. You know what I mean. But yeah, to look at her and be like your shirt is... Why did you think wearing such a cleavid shirt was appropriate? I will say to an interview No, a hundred percent. But also she's in Ibiza. So like, what are you wearing a suit?

It's hot. You know what I mean? A cardigan. Yeah, sure. Why are these families in Ibiza? Do they live there? Or are they at a party? They're vacationing for the summer?

Like there's literally the one nanny or the one family that I like that she's like female empowerment. She's just staying in like this resort for like a week. So they're like temp nannies for. Yes. Yes. That's the agency. So like they have connections with all these rich families.

the more families you meet, the more connections you make. And it's an Ibiza, Aviza. Okay, so are the families in and out? Like, they're not there for the full season? No, yeah. Oh, I thought we were following families. Okay. So the whole point is like...

You're following the nannies. Oh. You want to have a good recommendation so you're the nanny that gets the next job. So some people aren't getting paid to be there. It's a fascinating show. It kind of reminds me. It honestly kind of pisses me off. Honestly, like when I watch it.

I'm a little enraged. That's how you get locked in. That's true. So many like, what the fuck am I watching? How did this become a show? How did you find the families to agree with this? How did you find the nannies? How do you find the families to agree with it?

That's what I really don't get. That's what I wonder too. I'm like, what rich families, like, actually? The dentist can make sense. But if you have all the money in the world and the thing you don't have is the fame. A little attention. I think it's below deck. Like below deck just has rich people that are like, oh, why not just like a three episode on a reality?

Yeah, but there's a difference in that. And like, when kids are involved, people, the optics change. But I wonder how much the children are actually involved when it is just like a show. They have confessinals. The kids do? The kids have confessionals. Yes, that's the craziest part. I find so fascinating is that they're literally by themselves and confessionals speaking about

like the nannies and how they love diamonds and caviar. Like it's just, it's very like, I eat it up, but it's wild. That is wild. It feels so wrong. It feels like. It feels like brilliant show because it's like, it's like Mormon wives. Like the way we pick apart family dynamics from that show, this is, it's got a similar similar ingredients.

Yeah. And these kids can say whatever they want because we can't critique them. Right, exactly. And we won't. But there's a difference between like,

you know, we're all messy. You know, these reality TV shows shine a light on our messiness and our toxicity. But when it's like a married couple

and your parents, like parents will give each other grace because it's hard being a parent and we're only human. But like this is a show about people, the parents hire,

to take care of their kids. Yeah. I just feel like there's less grace when you're like it's not you making the mistakes but someone you hired to watch your kids making the mistakes is like

it's a little trickier argument like wouldn't you think maybe it's safer for your kids to be watched by these nannies that are on camera with the full crew you know what I mean because now you're like okay like nothing I mean I guess but if that's what you need to ensure your children that's a good point yeah maybe you're hiring the wrong people

to watch your children yeah if your kids they're more safe with like a reality TV film crew? Like a grip? Like I love the grips, but those are like usually just like a chill gruff dude. Yeah, not exactly. Yeah, they can just get nanny cams. They can get nanny cams. I bet they're great at it.

We also had the Real Housewives of Rhode Island part one reunion. And they came out with a bank. Guns a blazing. Guns. Slam pig was settled? Yeah, I mean, they were just kind of like, yeah, listen, it's just like, I don't think you're a slam pig, I just said it. Yeah.

It's not true to definition, but it sounded really good. People just say things sometimes. Rula, a hundred percent looks like like, Joelle and being like, I don't even know who you are. No, Rula looks hot, first of all. No, she looks amazing.

She does have the Rachel Fuda effect, which I also loved Rachel Fuda. She also, I think, got it maybe a little too close to reunion because her, she can't really speak. Oh, when she said, shut up, your nose is breathing or whatever. That was wild. It was so mean.

I was like, whoa, that was mean. No, but Rula is giving Lisa Barlow in early reunions where like every second she would be saying something to like just like go at Joellen but then Joellen would do it back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Joe Ellen really really knows how to just

lock in and just decimate. She's great TV. I have to be so honest. And the whole season I'm like, we need the Joellen. We need the people who keep the storyline moving. We need someone who's like, I don't understand why this person is like protecting her husband. Like I'm just going to keep bringing up this affair. I'm going to keep digging.

in. And Rule of being like, I thought we agreed that we weren't going to do this. She's like, but this is the reunion. Like, we're going to talk about everything that has happened on the show. We're opening wounds back up. Yeah, babe. Sorry. Also, like, I empathize with Rula a little bit where, like, no matter what piece of evidence she brings to this group, it's not going to matter. Like, her being like, I have his medical appointment records. And Joellen being like, AI, he sends you AI documents. I believe Joellen though. No, I believe Joellen. Why is she still offending? Anyone can change the dashboard date on their two car. I feel like they can, though, no. They can.

Sure. Sure. But nobody's doing that to cheat. Just as much as like you're going on AI to print your, you're tracking your wife's car. Like, I'm sorry. Literally. He's the very person she's trying to protect. Yeah.

The only one who would do this is Brian. Yeah, that's good point. He would go to these lengths. He goes the distance. He goes. Yeah. Brian goes like not the people trying to out Brian. It's a projection of the person she's been married to for all these years.

I just respect her willingness to go to bat for her. So the whole, like, and we obviously, we had Rosie on the show. She talked about the whole affair thing and like this being this rumor that's gone on for so long. She's like, I literally was not. I was kind of gagged though. When she said, I'm bleeding out of my bus. It was a DUI. Your name was in the car on the police report.

And then she goes, and then she goes, well, I've never seen the police report. And then she threw out the window. Yeah. She was like, I've actually, no one's seen their police. Has anyone seen there? No, no one's. She's like, but I've talked to the cops who wrote it. Huh?

And I'm like, your friend, Dave, that you met at a bar the other one? weekend. That's what it sounds like. People think Kelsey and Rosie look a like it could have been Kelsey in the car. I really appreciate Andy for pointing that out because we had to watch this whole season acting like they didn't look identical. No, I agree. They don't actually though the more you think about it. I mean, I'm not saying I can't tell them apart. I'm just saying they like at first glance they look like yeah. When the show first started, I was having a hard time. I was like, wait, which one's which? People thought Lisa Meredith looked identical and look at them. Not identical, you know? Liz. I

when she told us that we might think she's a monster her calling Joellen she was like you are a sociopath or whatever she said you are a sociopath no she scares me a little she called I mean just like the way that she was just like

we have never been friends and Andy's like didn't y'all spend Mother's Day together and she's like yeah but she like and also wait what is all of this Alicia sent voice memos talking about how we're going to talk about the homeless again and ambiote. Yeah, what? I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I'm sorry, like, when Liz gets on her moment where she's like, oh, are you? And I'm like, you've lost me.

You and have a homeless. I am officially on whoever's team is against you at that point, because that is crazy. I'm just like, you need Liz to, like, push the narrative. I'm like, we're all just sitting here. I appreciate her, and she's a good, yeah, she's an interesting person. but whoa she couldn't get me off her team faster by doing that stuff Liz was the first person to vape on a reunion stage That's crazy iconic

First person caught vaping Her going Sing around with jazz Yeah I just I think Rhode Island is like a perfectly cast Housewives show It is You have every single type of person you need to make it incredible It's camp

Yeah it's perfect yeah Ashley was so cute The cry count Yeah, the cry counts. And then she starts crying again, talking about her and Rose's relationship, which I do understand, though, like being in such different stages of life and, like, still being able to find a friend that, like, her being like, we don't have to go somewhere. Like, she just comes and sits on our, like, playroom floor and, like, plays with my kids. Like, that is so special to find when you are in this stage of life and you have, like, other people who aren't. So I do understand why she got emotional talking about that.

But no, it ended. on, it ended on a wild note, you know, Rula standing and, like, it's just these two. Part two, are we just going to break down the whole Brian and Rula of it all? Is that? Yeah, the, the husbands come out.

I hope so. I know he talked about it, and I forgot, was the arrest before after the reunion? Before. Before. Okay, so we'll get that too, then. You think? We should, yeah.

Oh, yeah. And they're together. It was after filming the season. They did a pickup, but it was before they filmed the reunion. Yeah, so that's correct. Yeah, yeah, you're a crew. Correct, that is what it is. Okay. Because yeah, I want, and obviously they're back together because she's defending him and it looks like from the previews they're like. Yeah, she says like I'll never be able to forgive or something. So I think, I think they are still together. I mean, listen, there's a marriage. Marriage life is, it's different. You had kids in the equation. There's a lot of people married who are making it work. Maybe the love is gone. I don't know. Or maybe they try to build back the love. But like saying sometimes divorcing isn't just like breaking up.

your relationship with your partner. It's breaking up your family. It is having to move out of a house that you, because you guys can't afford it to, you know, independently. It's like it's, and sometimes it's just easier to like suck it up or look the other way or just like deal with it than blowing up your entire life. It's also like those are your kids' father.

Yeah. And like those are like a lot of damaging things. So even if she's willing to protect it for the sake of it. Which is why like I just think fans will like talk. about Rula as if like how could you stay with him you want to be so dumb or you're so naive and they're just kind of discounting this the whole picture of the decision that Rula has to make is if like so many people in her shoes don't make that same decision every day and you can't necessarily say they're stupid or wrong for doing it in fact if anything they're being selfless thinking

about not just themselves it's very difficult of being a relationship like that I guess I just would wish Rula's gonna be like would just be more direct about coming from that place. Maybe. Just like, we are working on that. I don't want to blow up my family. And I don't want to do this and I don't want to do that. You mind your business.

I'll mind mine. Like, we're good. I'll come to you if there's an issue. Right. But instead, she just does this whole like, well, bring me proof. I don't know. That's not him. That's not him.

It's like, well, maybe it is him. You know what? And we're working through it. Maybe we just need to find her voice as a reality. She found it in this reunion. Yeah. She wouldn't stop talking. She needs more than three episodes.

Maybe it's not finding it. It's just. channeling it in a proper way, you know, because she's getting attacked, you know, when you're getting attacked, you want to attack that person. She was pretty attacky. Like she, like Joellen could not say one thing without Rula. Mm-hmm. You know, like. Which is why I say it's early Lisa Barlow in reunions, but I love that. It's their first reunion. Yeah. It's all of their first reunion. It was, it was good, I thought. Because the season did have a lot of resolution, like agreeing not to talk about things and then to have it come back up.

I was like, oh, okay, this is some good stuff. I'll log back in for another season. Also, Joellen is the fly on every wall. Like, the way that she just knows information about everything, who knows if it's real, but. Right. People like that. I love her. I love watching her.

People like that drive me nuts in the real world. I'm like, you, how do you get, where are your sources? Yeah. If you have that many sources, you're trouble. But I love, I actually love her, but she does, like, drive me nuts. You know that they're just always stick in their nose and other people's businesses and you're just going to wonder

when they're going to stick it in yours. Which also made no sense when Liz is like, so you miss FBI agent, we've talked about this, how many times you haven't ever gone back and listen to any of those voice memos? And she's like, scroll all the way back up through the hundreds of text messages.

She's like, you've, really? Yeah. Really like that stuff is. I'd have been like they auto expired. Don't got them. They're gone. I didn't keep them. I didn't keep them.

Do they auto expire? If you don't keep them. There's like a, after you play it once, it disappeared over five minutes or something. Yeah. Yeah, but she kept that shit.

She dealt up. Well, she said she never clicked play. Oh, she read the transcript. Could be. Which could be the miscommunication we have. There we go. She's like,

I never clicked play. I never listened to it. He heard the wrong thing. Yeah. Well, well, well, we'll have part two next week. That will do it for today's episode.

Thank you to our guest, Andrea Lexi and Jimmy Sotos. Don't forget we have a jam-packed episode lined up for you tomorrow. The iconic Terry Debrough is with us and it's a very, as we said, fun episode. I don't know about you guys, but it was great

having someone like Dr. Debrough on. So many questions out there about things like GLP ones, how AI is being used in modern medicine today. I had a lot of questions about my mommy makeover. Classic surgery. It's coming. Anyways, don't eat by the way. Don't forget to listen that episode with Dr. Terry Debrough

it's an incredible conversation so be sure to tune in for that tomorrow thanks for listening bye bye