The Viall Files - E1207 - Going Deeper With Louis Russell

Episode Date: October 21, 2026

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Louie, welcome back to the show, man. How you doing? Yeah, yeah, I'm good. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here, actually. I haven't done a podcast, like, forever. Been a minute, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Way back when you were on too hot to handle, we also had Georgia on. And I remember she was like, yeah, she was like, yeah, Louis's expecting, or his partner at the time was expecting. But you were pretty hush, hush about it. Obviously, you had a lot going on. You were on a show. You're promoting other shows.

I just want to kind of go back to that time. Oh, that was perfect match. Perfect match. Yeah, perfect match. And Sandy. And Sunday. But I want to go back to that time because obviously finding out you're going to be a dad is an amazing or, you know, shocking or all of the above experience. But obviously, being in the public eye, it can be nerve wracking.

I'm just kind of curious kind of going back. What was it like, you know, finding out you were going to be a dad? And what was your reason for wanting to kind of keep it private early on? So my situation just wasn't necessarily an ideal situation in becoming a dad. It was with someone I didn't know too well across the seas. I'm in England. They live in America. So when I got the news, it was really mixed feelings.

And speaking to my dad, you know, we've been through quite a lot. And he said, listen, just don't make the mistakes I did. and if you're going to be a father, be the best one of your capabilities. So I made the decision to step up, be the best dad I can be, got excited about it. The reason I kept it private is because,

one, that's my life, that's my real life. And it's a sacred part of my life. So I feel like, you know, the instability in it, to bring random people involved in that wasn't the smart option. It just wasn't, it wasn't correct at the time.

it wasn't, I just didn't want to let people know. Yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense. How did you kind of, you know, with you being in the public eye, you know, we struggle with that too. You know, we want to kind of give to our fans and kind of keep them in the loop with what's going on, but we also want privacy. And like sometimes that's very hard to juggle. And sometimes you don't really have the choice, right?

Because either your friends or peers or people are talking about you, rumors get out. So I'm curious, like, when was the time that you kind of broke it to the world and did you get to do that kind of, did you have a say in it or did it feel like word got out without you being able to say, I'm ready to tell everyone? No, word definitely got out. I didn't want to tell anyone. I didn't want to tell anyone. Like, don't get it twisted. I want to show off my kid more than anything in my life. It's the most proud thing I have in my life and something that I want to show the world. But again, it's also the most sacred. So that's where my scarcity comes. But the way it got announced was like people who knew about it would just start talking about it.

So it's like even then I'm trying to not deny it, but just not talk on it. And it keeps them going and going. And then problems start happening and now it's out. And it's like, well, I'm not ashamed of it. Like that I have my baby. I'm not ashamed. But I just don't need that part of my life. I just saw a quote from Pitbull, actually.

And he was like. Mr. Worldwide. Mr. Worldwide. And he never talks about his kids. He never shows his kids. kids and it was like, oh, he finally talks about his kids. And he was saying, like, I love them so much that I want to protect them. And I'm, you know, like, I'm protecting them by not sharing them with the world. Like, you don't put the things that you love than things that you want

to protect, like, in front of strangers and whatnot. Random people. Yeah. It makes a hundred, it makes, it makes complete sense. Yeah, because, yeah, people want to have a relationship with your whole life. Then, then by proxy, they want to have a relationship with your kid in a weird way. Because, like, Early on, we were showing our daughter's face, when she was like six months old or whatever. And then as she got older, you could, you know, everyone's lovely, but in person, like, it's like, you could tell they started having a,

like an internet relationship with our daughter. And that kind of got weird for us. So we had to pull back a little bit. Yeah, it's a challenge. No, I feel that. And like, the internet's an amazing place, but it's also the worst place. Like, it's literally like ying and yang.

And like, you have people on there, like, fans, people who support you and ride and die is like great, amazing. And then you've got the other side to it. And it's like that other side is a bit treacherous. And do you want someone that's so fresh and so new and so vulnerable, learning the world to be a part of that side of it? Like, I'm just like, I don't think so. We're saying before we got started, we obviously have three daughters.

We don't know what it's like to have a boy or a son. I'm curious, like what you feel like is most important when raising a boy? Well, first of all, I'm so happy that I've got a boy first. Like, I'm so happy. Oh, my days. And, like, through his newborn

era, it was sort of, like, intense, because, you know, having a newborn baby, you know, it's a lot. But once he's now getting older, where he's getting older, and now he's talking, walking. I'm now teaching him stuff. I'm now seeing

everything I do, he does, everything. Like, I take him to the gym with me, right? And I'm shadow boxing. He's playing in this, we have this big wagon. I'm shadow boxing. I look over and he's going, us, us, us, us. And I'm like, wow, he is absorbing everything I do, which means I actually have to step up as a man.

If this child is relying on me, I have to change. because if my actions and my principles and my morals aren't good enough, that means ain't good enough for him, and I can't have that. So, like, having him has really changed me as a person, like, wholeheartedly change me. What have you learned about yourself as a new dad that, like, you felt like you had to change knowing that you are now a father of a son? Patience, patience. Oh, my Lord, patience with everything.

Like, I'm a very, very impatient person. Like if I want something done and it's not done, I'll move on. But like with a baby, you have to be patient. You have to take your time. You have to let them cry and yell and like try and find out why instead of like getting frustrated or like just dealing with anything. Like definitely patience I have learned massively to have. Yeah, that's not true.

I was thinking about like how much kids absorbs when you were talking about it. Our daughter's the same way. Like she started being like she would talk back. be like, I said no. And you're like, how did you, you know, because like, we're saying that because because I said no, right? So then she'll respond. She'll be like, well, I said no, you know?

It is wild. The vocabulary, like everything we say to our kids right now is probably going to be like, like vocabulary, the words they use, you know, throughout the rest of their lives. So it's like, yeah, hearing, you know, a better one is we ever being like, oh, what a beautiful day. I'm like, what two-year-old is saying? Like, what a wonderful, beautiful day? I'm like pet something something my mom said to her or something like that.

But it is wild. They really watch and absorb everything that you do. That's sort of like, me and his mom's relationship is like, okay. But like we try our best that when it's in front of him, if we have any problems, arguments, shouting. We try our best to keep it. We don't do it because they absorb it. even just the, just the mossy. So like, the energy, yeah.

Yeah. So like I try to keep, we try collectively to keep the best relationship for our son, like to keep it just on good terms as co-parents, you know. Yeah, speaking of that, because I'm curious because, you know, it's in 2026, you know, relationships are different. There's a lot of people in your position out there who, you know, they got pregnant, not necessarily expecting to, not necessarily in a like a relationship, or whatever, maybe it's new.

It's a challenge. I'm curious, when you found out the mother of your son was pregnant and you're, you're like, hey, I talked to your dad, you're going to step up. Like, you know, that's a challenge a lot of people in this world phase in terms of like, all right, you know, we're not together. I didn't plan for this. But like, now we have a kid together. And you being a public figure, like, how did you try to approach that early on to try to, like,

coexist with her in order to, like, raise your son knowing that, like, you guys had to kind to put things aside to like focus on your child like what was that like it's hard i mean even now it's it's a really hard thing to do um and we have our good days and we have our bad days and we're learning along the way we're both new parents um we're both figuring out on how to give him the best life but i think what i am grateful for and i'll never say anything bad in this aspect about my our baby's mother is she is a great mom. And for having her as a great mom, that gives me like a respect towards her that I approach when I am, when we are having disagreements or whatever, it's like, okay, well, you're a great mom. I'm a great dad. We're doing this for him. Every time we come at like a dead

end, we just restart and try and figure it out for the sake of him. Everything's for him. So, like, we have to figure this out. He can't grow up without a dad. He can't. I refuse to let that happen because I know what that's like. I know what's like to have a somewhat absent father. And it's, and it's especially for a boy, well, I can't say especially for a boy because I am a boy, so I can't speak on a girl. But for me, that has an effect. So I can't let my son have that same effect, no matter the circumstance. I want him to be whenever he says daddy, phone me. Whenever he wants to see his dad, he can see me. Like, that's how we always have it. I definitely relate to that. I, you know, I had a dad who wasn't around much when I was a kid.

And then I kind of grew to a point where I was like, okay, I'm just going to accept him for the man that he is. Maybe he doesn't have like the father gene in him, but I'm just going to not expect that out of him anymore. And we ended up having a great. relationship, how did you kind of mend that fence with your dad? It's, see, when I was a kid, it was, it's difficult. But now I'm growing up and I know what happens, kind of, you know, I don't hold no resentment, but like, you know, my dad was there. There was a period of time where I didn't see him too tough.

And growing up, I think when I hit like 16, 17, my dad's quite a lot. a tough person, but he's also very emotional too, and I only found this out when I was 16, 17, 17. And I sat down and got the confidence to, like, talk to him, just talk to him, just start talking. And gradually as we started talking, I started hearing his point of views, I started seeing from his part of life and this and that. And once I started doing that, we just built our relationship off there, because I can understand him now. I can understand him. Like, did he do some things wrong? of course he did but like he ain't meant to be he ain't meant to be all the way perfect same as my mom like i can't hold no resentment to any of them you know that's i mean that's great man because uh a lot of

people aren't like that right there's a lot of people out there who who hold on resentment to their parents because you know all parents fuck up they they make mistakes and i think nowadays i don't know the way like i know like i'm big on therapy but like sometimes people will go into therapy and just learn about their childhood traumas and learn about all the things their parents did wrong and then build this kind of resentment from it. Like, how are you able to do that? Because it's not easy to do, right?

Because a lot of times it's easy to like not land on your feet, feel like things aren't going the way that you want them to. And, you know, kind of hold that grudge against your parents who maybe failed you at times. Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm not perfect. I'm not perfect in the slightest. But I definitely, I definitely had a moment.

in my life where I sat back and went, would I rather see my dad as much as possible and forget about all the bollocks in the past and build a future? Or would I rather hold on to the past and ruin the future with my dad? I'm not going to do that. That is so stupid. Like if we're having a good relationship now, anything that the feelings I had, I'm going to put to the side because the future is more important. The present and the future is more important than what happened in the past.

The past happened. I can't change it. I can't do nothing about it. So my thought process is like, let me make a better future with our connection. There was an event that happened where it wasn't my fault and I can't get into it, but it wasn't my fault. And I had to be like, bite my ego and apologize for the shit. I had to sit down and apologize when I didn't feel like apologising.

But like I knew it would mend the situation. That's all I needed to do. And if I have to just bite my ego a little bit for the sake of a stronger relationship, I'm going to do that. I love that. It's hard to do. Who taught you that? Oh, life, I think. I've been through it.

Like, I've been through. I've been through it. So I think you just learn that along the way. Like, you're always trying to fight and bite and go against. the grain and swim up the river, but sometimes let it just flow. Once you let it flow, shit, life is easier. You talk about, I mean, being through it, like, what was one of those moments where I guess you thought, like, this is the darkest, I don't see a way through, I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel, and then you get to the other side and you're like,

oh, wow, I survived that. What was one of those moments? I can't lie, I've had a couple. I've had a couple. I've heard a couple. Yeah, yeah, I've had a couple. I mean, the worst thing that I can say today is when, like, I found that my mum was really ill. And, like, we had conversations that I just didn't want to have. So going through that was tough. Going through that is obviously tough, because I'm a, I'm a mumsy boy. So, like, hearing certain stuff and seeing, and visibly seeing certain stuff, it's tough and you think like, wow, this is the end of the world. Yeah. That what's the point of, what is the point?

But then when you get through it, it's like, shit, I can get through damn near anything. And I've had things along the way that is just, you know, just as bad, but I'm always going to get through it. No matter what, I always get through it. That's another superpower mine is, you can't break me. It's impossible. It's impossible. I'll get through anything, any storm that comes.

I might even run into the storm. I like the storm now. When did you learn that about yourself? I'll say like 14, 15. Yeah, 14, 15, there was a shift in my mindset, I think. I saw a clip of some old, like, business guy or something, and he was saying something like, you might beat me, you might do this, but you'll never break me,

similar to kind of how you spoke. Yeah, impossible. Yeah, like, resiliency is something like yourself. I've probably value about myself more than anything because that's one thing you can control outside of so many things that you can't. but knowing that you'll just like take your beating, you know, get clocked in the face a few times and get back up is, it's,

yeah, I mean, quite honestly, when you know you have that ability, it, it does make you feel better about like all the things that you, you know, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, because you just know, like, as, you know,

obviously we're all old enough to realize that like life is shit sometimes, you know, and as lucky as we all are, you know, there's always like a storm around the corner. And, um,

it's nice to know, that you had that resiliency. I'm curious, like, when you found out your baby mama was pregnant, a lot of people in your position, I've had friends and family members in similar positions, and oftentimes there's a pressure, you know, when you're not together to, like, try to be together, you know, for the sake of the kid.

Were there any conversations, did you ever feel pressure like that when you first found out to try to make it work from a relationship standpoint? Well, I didn't know how long. Like we weren't even like dating, linking It was like more of like a Casual thing So then when it came about She's a lot older than me too

And we're in two different parts of life Two different parts of life So for me it was never that Was there pressure to like Nah she never I wouldn't say it It was more like we need to be close And good

And maybe sometimes that That area is like misunderstood. I mean, it really seems like the two of you try your best to make like, you know, it work for your son. And I think at the end of the day, like, that is what is most important. And even just the both of you acknowledging like, hey, let's have this conversation when he's not around or like, let's keep it good in front of him is just, I think, so important, especially for your son's development. And so the fact that y'all are even conscious of that, I think is really great. If someone found themselves in a similar situation that you were two and a half years ago,

what advice would you give that person, especially if it was a guy, you know, in terms of, you know, you know, once, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you're expecting, you know, what would you have done differently or what advice would you have given to try to just, again,

make a very difficult situation as best as possible. Set boundaries, stick to them. Set your boundaries on how this is going to go and step up to what you need to do. The baby comes first

out of everything, right? But within that, if you don't have boundaries, that's where problems. Every problem I've had is because I haven't set the boundary. I haven't stood on the shit. Yeah. So like my advice would be set a boundary, whatever that may be, stick to it. Don't let nothing change it, but also make it for the value of being a good father.

Was it difficult once you, you know, you knew you were expecting being in the public, knowing that you weren't going to be in a relationship with her. Was it difficult to like feel like you were able to date? Or, you know, how did you handle your love life in the early stages of that period of time? I was always honest. I was always honest. When anyone I was dating, I'd let him know. I'm expecting or I have or the situation.

Because believe it or not, I'm a terrible liar anyway. So I might as well tell you the full truth. because as soon as I get caught out, you'll see it on my face. I've been caught out too many times in my life, that lying, that it just wasn't worth it. Well, if I just told the truth, it would have been better than this because I just drag something out. So I always tell the truth, and this always worked in the best way possible

because some people are like, oh, okay, that's great. I'm here with you, I like you, we can build something. All that, oh, that's a lot going on. I'm going to go over here. It's like cool. Let's like Hutter. How did you guys meet? She'd DM me, actually.

Really? Okay. Yeah, when she came off the show, like, she'd DM me. Can you share the message? Like, not like read it, but like what was it? She saw a video of me reacting to her on live because I didn't watch Love Island. Okay.

I never watched it. I was on live on TikTok, someone's TikTok, my friend's TikTok, and he was talking about Love Island. I was like, oh, who's on it? And we're going through the girls. And I was like, who's that? And obviously it was her daughter. I was like, yeah, she's fire.

But I didn't know at the time. This was right at the start of Love Island. And then when she came off, she must have seen a clip and just sent me like, yo, I'm surprised you haven't messaged me yet or something. Confident. Love it. When did you realize how popular and how big her audience was? Well, we got, like, we got snapped going on a date on our first date. And I didn't really think anything of it because I'm thinking I'm on reality shows and stuff.

She's just come off on. That kind of makes sense. So I didn't think too much of it. It was only like after and some drama started happening. I was like, damn, this is, this is a lot, this is a lot, a lot. It just kept being a lot. You guys started dating pretty early after she got off Love Island, and we all know now that the Love Island fan base is very intense and very dedicated to all the people on that show.

They're something, they need to chill out, mate. Yeah. They need a flippin' chill out. I hope they take your advice. I would totally agree. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so do I.

But yeah, what was that, you know, was it right off to jump, like, challenging? Because, like, people are very protective of the people they love on that show. You know, Huda's fan base is very protective of her. Just from an outsider's point of view, and I didn't, like, follow your relationship all that closely, but it was so talked about that it was hard not to notice. Right, yeah, right. It felt like you were kind of under a microscope and kind of under the attack early on from people, both friends and critics trying to like guess your intentions about like what you were doing with

hoodo what was that like for you on your end so it's like the first time i ever really like felt pressure from the internet and for like for a second i was like oh shit this is overwhelming this is overwhelming and then i was like yeah but louis you don't care like you don't care what people think like you know who you is i couldn't care if people calling me a clout chaser. I couldn't care if people I'm saying I'm this and I'm not, I don't care. I don't know these people anyway. Fuck them.

Fuck them. Literally fuck them. I don't know. So like when that stuff was happening, not even at first, it was like a week where I'm looking at all this negativity. I'm like, oh, shit. And then I'm like, oh, I don't care. Like it's fake. All the cancel shit and the negative is fake.

It's not real. real. I still got what I got next to me. I still got money in my pocket. My son's good. My mom's getting looked after. What you're talking to me about is bullshit and I don't want to, I don't care about it. Some of the people who had opinions, um, where's, um, Leah and Miguel. Oh, yeah. Yeah, if I see. And weren't you like, you were boys with Miguel or you guys grew up together? Yeah. Yeah. I've been boys of him since I was like 18. And it's, did people, did the public know that she DM'd you? Because, I mean, again, I didn't follow that closely.

But as someone who followed casually your relationship and saw all the critiques and criticism that came your way, just hearing that like, yo, she DM'd you. You didn't even watch the show. It's kind of like, no, they didn't. I don't know. But there's, if they knew, this is the thing. It goes with that sacredy stuff, yeah? So Miguel was my friend. Or he was.

I still have love for that guy because he's a close friend of mine, right? He was. If everyone knew what happened, it would be different. But I know not to talk on the internet because now we're getting random people involved.

But other people don't know that and they start getting random people involved but if I speak, it changes the whole narrative. Why don't I speak? Because I still, regardless of what people think, I don't think people should be involved in my business. So they can go talk and have all the opinions they want. But like, I know what's happening in this.

I know what's happening. And so do the people in this know what's happening. Did you ever have a private conversation with Miguel about all of that? Of course I did. Yeah. Of course I did. And if there was flies on the wall that I heard it, the whole thing would be different.

But I can't speak on it or say nothing about it because that's done in the past. And it ain't need to be brought up. I love, I have love for Miguel always. Miguel is actually someone that was a reason I changed as a person too. Like the time he came in my life, the type of person he is, he was a big help to me and I learned a lot from that guy. So I'm always going to have love for him, regardless of how the situation went out. And he'd probably say the same. Can you speak more on that?

Like, what did he help you out with? So like I said, I got not very great patience, right? So like I used to get in lots of fights. I used to be, I used to always getting fights. And he kind of taught me the calmness. He's a very calm, collected person. He's quite spiritual. He's, he just taught me things I ain't ever seen the world

or been open to listening to. So he taught me some good stuff about my, good stuff about myself, advice, a different outlook on life. So that's why I always have love for him Because he was a big factor in my life at one point Well I haven't you guys been able to Mend the fences to the point where you guys can You know say hey we're friends now

Factors Factors Gotcha did you ever think Did you ever think that this would happen to your friendship Hell no Hell no hell no hell no But like At the end of the day

It is what it is isn't it? Like, you can't, like, you can't hold onto resentment for something or like. We've had conversations. He's apologized. I've accepted. I've apologized for whatever the fuck I did. And, you know, if I ever saw him, it would be nothing but cool shit. But there's certain events that happen that I just can't.

I just can't go back being friends. You know what I'm saying? That makes sense. I'm curious. I mean, I love hearing your perspective on how you deal with the internet because truly it's the only way to survive in the space that we all find ourselves in. But that being said, it's not common. And we've obviously covered and followed Love Island for a long time. And I have a ton of empathy for obviously all those people who go on that show because,

like, that show is so different. Oh, it's bad. I was bad. Yeah. It's so, you know, to be famous overnight, like, you know, when you did too hot to handle and when you did perfect match, you know, you film, there's a downpoint, you kind of get prepped, you know, you kind of see it. There's a little bit of gradual yeah yeah it's gradual so I have a lot of empathy but it also feels like the love island who people go out that show are so much at the mercy of of the discourse about them online and you know you obviously dated huda I'm sure you met a lot of people and hung out with a lot of people on love island did you kind of see that firsthand a group of people like kind of really struggle to be their truest selves regardless of what the internet said and you feel like so many of them would

their decisions were dictated by fans, comments and feedbacks and things like that. Yeah, it has to be though. Like, it's unfortunate for a lot of people, it has to be because they don't have like, you forget, right? These are random people. These aren't talented. It's not talent that's getting them there. Me too.

Me too. Some of them can be talented, but I'm saying the reason they got the profile ain't from talent. So, like, that's just a random person that. as just being in the limelight all of a sudden. And then it's like, well, this person's famous, they must know what to do and how to act. No, they just got here. They literally just got here.

So, like, they don't. And they're having to react off, like, what fans are saying and critics are saying and good and the bad, because that's the way you learn. Yeah. That's the way you learn about this world. It's just they've been chucked into it in such a vast speed that is sometimes stuff.

I've definitely seen like the way they handle it and how it gets to them and, you know, it's intense. It's intense. It's actually crazy because when I think about like people like the biggest people in the world, like the Taylor Swift's and the drakes and stuff, are they gradually done this? Like over years and then maybe like one song went viral. They've already got 100,000 people back in them anyway. So they know what the gradual's like and then all of a sudden it's millions. Well, like this person is like straight millions. straight critics and straight stuff.

It's just crazy. It is crazy. Did you early on when, you know, dating Huda, obviously she was in the early stages of this newfound fame? I imagine you guys had a lot of conversations. And I imagine, you know, even though you weren't on Love Island, tried to help her through kind of navigating the pressures of the internet feedback. What was that like?

It was tough. Poor girl. It's all I'm going to say. Poor girl. I was there through all of it. And it was tough. Felt for her a lot. In terms of early stages of that relationship,

what was the thing about you two that made you the happiest or why did you guys work so well in the beginning of your relationship? Because we didn't listen to outside noise. We didn't listen. We just turned our phones.

If we got too much or like she might be getting in her head and stuff, I'll just put your phone down. You don't need a post. Ain't making you money. So what are we doing? put your phone down just let's just do something we'll go do activities and stuff we're yeah at the start we was great had a great time and we dealt with it together and i feel like that's the that's the way

a lot of them do it you know you have someone that you help help with do with the situations where do you guys stand now are you guys chill are you cool are your friends uh just don't talk just don't have any contact. See, listen, obviously I have love for the girl. I always will. It's with anyone that I've ever been with that enters my life. Like, you're going to have love for them. So I'll just stand at a point where I wish nothing but her to succeed. I see her. I've seen her and how I know who she is and how she is. How hard she works and stuff. I just want her to succeed and I will succeed over here and she can succeed. over there.

What was the biggest misconception about your guys' relationship when it existed? I didn't even, I didn't even pay attention to what people were saying at one point. The only shit was that

they called, they called me a clout chaser, but... I think there was a little bit of a narrative of like maybe this was a PR relationship, you know, kind of broke up

and then she released her album and things like that was I think of... Oh, fuck, I wish it was fake. I wish it was fake. was fake and PR bullshit. Yeah, actually run with that narrative.

Yeah, run with it. Fuck it. Yeah, that's exactly what it was. Well, what is your dating life like now? It is great, actually. It's great, great. Why is it so great? It's at a great point because, like, I'm at a point in my life where, like, I can just be

honest. And so, like, just, like I said, I can't lie no more. Like, I just am honest and truthful. also like what you see is what you're getting. If any advice, that is the best way to be. That's the best way to be. Just be honest, straight out. Do you feel like whether it's your relation with Huda

or you being on reality TV, I was a bachelor a long time ago. And before I met my wife, even that was this like, every date was this like having to answer a bunch of weird questions about what people thought they knew about me or what they saw online or things like that? Do you deal with that a lot? And how do you deal with that?

I don't talk to girls that ask me questions about that. And once I hear a question about all that, I go, I'm never seeing you again. Like, okay, if I'm talking to her for a while, different. But like, I've been going on dates and shit. Also, I don't do dates for this reason, too, because, like, random people kind of scare me. But, like, on the first date, you're asking me about all this. What are we doing? Yeah.

What are we, I don't want to, no, you don't need to ask me about that later on, you know, when I'm comfortable. But, like, you know, I'm kind of dating now, and it's, and it's, you know, It's good. It's great, actually. Is it maybe anyone from the sideman outside show? Maybe someone you shouted out or something along those lines. Could you imagine? No, no, no, no. That's not.

What was that all about? Were you just, like, trolling people? Yo, I posted a TikTok about, like, I said, like, that one outsider, not one person in mind, right? Perfect. Perfect. If I'm honest, I just see comments, right, of the outside because I've got to keep up with the shit. So I'm like, you know what? I'm going to let him guess because people are saying Danny, Casey, someone said Lacey. Then they said Matt. And I'm like, you know what? I'm going to keep on running with it.

I'm going to keep fucking. Okay. So you're not dating anyone? No, no. Not from, no. If someone, like I DM'd my husband on Instagram, I was a nobody, he was a somebody, is there a world in which you're like checking DMs, you're dating just normal regular people who maybe aren't fans of the shows that you've been on or care about your previous relationships? No, I'd rather that to be honest. I want like low-key. Don't watch shows. Don't ask me questions about that.

They don't look at a TV. They don't own a TV. Don't look at a TV. I like hippies. I want a hippie. I like hitties. Nature, food, spiritual. Campfire.

Campfire type type beat. But I'm not even spiritual like that too much, but I feel like the women that are spiritual are like quite green flags. What would it take for you to be open to dating another influencer or reality TV personality? Fuck. They would have to be siding for me to do that. They'd have to be like special, for sure. They'd have to, yeah, it'd have to be something because, fuck.

Yeah. Was it easier when you were dating Hutto? Because obviously she's a mother, mommy, infamous, you're a mom, comment. But like, was it easier early in the stages of your relationship, knowing that she was a mom as well and you were expecting father? Like, was it, did that make it, you know, being in that relationship, knowing that she could relate to that experience or did that not have? help at all. I wouldn't say I made it easier because yeah it was still still a lot going on but

I guess it was a factor. Do you want more kids? Yeah, hell yeah, I want like 10. You do? I love being a dad bro. Bro, being a dad is the best thing ever. I want this is this is me. Okay. 100 M's in the bank. No, fuck that. A billion pound in the bank. Now, fuck that. Elon Musk type beat, right? I buy an island. I buy an island. No one can come. 10 kids Don't know how many wives One Perfect

But like I'm open to more Obviously Thoughts Hey it's 2026 We live on an island And it's great And do you leave the island much Or you kind of just stay there

Anyone can leave whenever they want Okay No one can come to my island What about play dates What about the kid Like are they just have each other Fuck Yeah I don't think of that

Hold on Are you building like a school Are you homeschooling? I got a boat. It's close to another island. The other island has other kids on it. Okay. Yeah.

So we can... That's beautiful. Yeah. Do you want daughters or do you feel like you're just such a good boy dad? You're like, let me just... I'll just have ten boys. Oh, I feel like that's another change that I'm not ready for if I have a daughter. It is.

I feel like that's just something. Because like, a boy and a girl, completely different. It's a completely different. different ball game. Like you can have a little bit of tone with with a boy and I feel like I've seen, because I've seen my, only reason I said, I see my dad. My dad was like the undertaker when he stepped in the room. He had a presence about him. Like if you're up to no good, like whatever I was doing, if I heard Louis Kearing and I was holding, I would sit down on the floor. I swear to you, I'll be anywhere in the house. If my dad said Louis Kearing, I'd sit down because I don't know, I don't know if

you can see me, hear me, smell me. I don't know what the, I've done. I've done. I've done something wrong and I know I have because he just said my full name right he that's the presence he's hand when my sister came about I was like who is this bloke who is this man because the way I was getting treated it's not the same over here so I don't know if I'm ready for that just yet but I would you know I'd love to have a door how much younger is your sister than you uh six years what she yeah she's 19 I don't know what it's like to have a son but like yeah Having a daughter, there's like this, I've said this a few times, but I have a friend who, before he had a son, had daughters.

And I was like, yo, are you excited to be a dad? And he was like, I was kind of terrified. And like you, I was like, you know, before I became a father, I always kind of imagined like having a son someday. But he kind of talked about just like, daughters are so much easier because as a dad, you're just like, you just love them, right? You're just like, they're just kind of these gentle, beautiful creatures. And like, with a son, I think as a guy.

there's this kind of pressure, right, to teach them what you didn't teach, you'd get taught or don't make the mistakes that you mistake, you know, and kind of project down to them, right? But like, you are a little harder on them. But with daughters, it was just like, I just got one job and that's just to make them feel fucking. Make them feel good, yeah. Make them feel good, you know. So I feel like you would really enjoy it, man.

It would soften you up. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to just tell you a quick story about me and my sister, yeah? Okay. I used to have to take my sister everywhere. When I'm 12, she's six. so when I'm 16 she's 10 okay

that is a massive age gap at that age right I'm linking girls while having my little sister I swear to you right but anyway we had two bikes at my dad's

we had a little pony fairy bike and a normal bike right one day my sister's like I want to ride the big bike I'm like no you got a fairy bike

that's your bike my dad hears it this guy makes me ride the fairy bike for my sister. Because she's begging. He's like, just let her ride it. I'm like, no, I'm not getting on a fairy bike. Once I went around the corner, I got her off it and she got on the ferry bike. But like just the diff, like, the fact that his whole demeanor with her was like, no, she's the princess.

She can get whatever she wants where we never got that treatment. You know what I mean? Do you feel like now that you look, back though like you know you talked about resiliency early on do you feel like your dad being a little harder on you and like you know it sounds like maybe he challenged you in different ways do you feel like that kind of led to being who you are this resilient person who kind of hits through everything for sure for sure my dad was like he's a make or break person like the way my dad was it really even makes you or you cry or you cry and be a little bitch about it because he'll be like he'll tell

you ain't good enough you need do this and if you ain't doing it you might as well give up if you want to talk about giving up then you shouldn't have done it in the first like he's very like if you're going to do something do it and I feel like like I would fail and he'd be like no you can do it come on this keep going and some other people might be like I just don't want to do this or like be upset about it like him saying certain things but I was like nah I thought that I'm gonna do it and be better than you I got to an age when I was like dad I'm better than you it were you was playing football and boxing and all this type of stuff do you feel like you're kind of coming into like a new chapter of your life because I feel like maybe the past

couple years it's whether it was just public or whatever but just a lot of drama or a lot of things that it's like we heard a lot about you but we didn't hear about who you were you know what I'm saying it was like there's all these rumors about you as a dad or you as a boyfriend or whatever you know and do you feel like now it's like a fresh start where people can actually get a chance to know the real Louis and who he is as a person I mean yeah I'm I'm excited I'm excited for this or what you would describe a fresh start on people getting to know me but I'm also not someone

who's like gonna force like yo this is me except me this is how I am like I'm a very natural person so like the shit you were seeing that is what I was going through in my life so all that stuff like whatever I'm not gonna come out and try and defend myself

and try and prove a point to people like you're just gonna see me for who I is and how I is like into my next transitions in life and that's just I'm excited for it to be fair because I've got a lot going on. And what do you have going on? Boxing, music, shows, my brand.

I just saw a clip, or you just absolutely annihilated someone under like a recent boxing match. Like second round, wasn't it? Yeah, second round. I'm 30 seconds in. How much you train for that shit? No, yeah, train. Yeah. The fight was easy.

The fight was easy. I could have been in there. I wanted to be in there longer. Six, eight rounds of training? aspect is brutal. Really? That ain't, that ain't, it is not a joke with that training. I'm sparring with, like, high amateurs, pros, training with pros, training like a pro,

doing, body coming home, like, just like this, just can't move. Is that something where, like, was that just like a one-off, like, fun kind of promotional thing? Or like, you know, I mean, Logan, Paul, you know, the Logan Paul, whatever, Jake Paul, like, you know, they used to be YouTube guys. now they're legit boxers, the biggest draw in sports, regardless of what you think of his boxing abilities, is that the path that you're looking to take or you want to really lean into that?

Yeah, it's one of them. I need, like, discipline in my life, and a sport really gives me discipline. Like, I used to play football back in the day. America, don't have good, they ain't good at football. So now I box, and now I like that. So now I'm going to do that, and I'm going to absolutely destroy anyone

that comes in front of me in that room. I want to fight Joey Essex next. That's who I want, but I don't think it will fight me. Why not? Because he's a pussy. I don't know. You just clip it. Send it to him.

Who else is on your list? Anyone who wants it? Absolutely anyone. Anyone, anyone. Did KSI give you any tips for boxing? No. Don't know if I want him, to be honest. Why is that?

Wait, that's how I'm kind of crazy. Not because he's terrible. but because his technique, I ain't doing all this. Like he moves a lot. I'm more of like a, I'm trying to figure you out. He's like,

you see me coming. Bama bum bum. Yeah, like it's mad because in boxing you've got different types of fighters with different techniques and stuff. And like someone who's really good might struggle against someone who's like not as good

because of the way they box just because of their technique. Like KSI is a really unorthodox fighter. Like he's, He'd be hard to go against because of the way he fights. Like he's, you don't know what the fuck's coming. He might not be like a Jake Paul who's like technically better. But I think technical abilities better.

But like KSar is more awkward. So it'd be a really hard, hard fight, you know. Is there any reality TV star or like internet celebrity that you... I don't know enough. I don't know enough of them. But any of them who want it, literally anyone. Literally anyone, like anyone. I'll take them all one by one.

What's your walkout song? Purpose by pot of paper. And then I've got a couple. I want to do MJ. But like a big one, I'm doing MJ, and I'm coming out with a whole light dancing shit. Can you dance? Are you good? I'm so good.

I'm so good. I'm like top three dancers in the world. Oh, perfect. Are you going to do Dancing with the Stars? Yes. What is it though? I'll do it. It's on ABC Disney.

they cast a bunch of stars, actors, a lot of reality TV stars, internet personalities, and they ballroom dance with dancing pros. And it's a competition show. Damn. You say ballroom? Yeah, which is different than like being a hoot at a wedding. Yeah, fuck.

I don't know about ballroom. That's a bit techie. It's very technical. Really techie. Yeah. But it would be a chance like, you know, see a new you, man. Like a different, you know.

Fuck it. I'll do it. Okay. I'll do it. I believe and like, do everything. I do everything. In this life, you get one. Do it.

Do everything that you can of your ability, no matter what people say, do it. Netflix recently had Let's Marry Harry. I don't know if you were familiar with that show, which was kind of like a rip off of The Bachelor. If Netflix came, called you and said, I want to do a show called Let's Marry, Louis

Harry who Harry Jousy Oh he done what Let's marry Harry Yeah I was a show I don't want to marry I would not go on that

I don't want to marry Harry No no no Would you be a let's marry Louis Yeah And have 30 men 30 women You know your type You know cross the board

You live with them With a chance To maybe fall in love With one of them Would you want to do something like that Who would say no to that I don't get it I don't get the question

I don't get the question Do I want to live with 30 women and potentially fall in love? Yeah, I do. Yeah. I'd probably do it, yeah. What would you say no to? Oh, okay, now we're going like...

Are you done with dating reality shows? Yeah. Oh, fuck, yeah. Oh, my God. Unless I get a bag for it. Unless I get a big bag, they'd have to pay me more than what they'd been paid. For a reality show, yeah.

For dating. They'd have to pay me the most. I'm not doing that again. Okay. What was the sideman outside experience like? Honestly, it was like the funnest thing I've ever done it. It was only like a week. I didn't sleep outside once as well.

I slept inside it every day. And like it was so fun, but it was so challenging because when I got in there, everyone knew each other somehow. Chip, Heinz, Lacey all knew each other. But then Lacey knew Yono. So that went in that group. and then Casey knew Chip somehow because of her dad's podcast or something.

And then Moyo knew the sideman who'd been around Danny who knew each. They all knew each other. And I came in there like, I know no one. So I was off the back of like, oh shit, I'm really on my own. So I've got to try and play this game to stay in. So I sort of became like a villain,

but I loved it. And I would probably do it even worse if I'd done it again. Did you bond with any of the other members? Me and Matt. Yeah, me and Matt. Me and Matt are really good friends. I'm lying.

I hate Matt. Fuck you, Matt. And he can get it next. Yeah, he can get it. I wouldn't even fuck. Matt's a great human being, actually. All jokes are like, Matt is a great human being. And we actually got on, weirdly.

We got on, we spoke quite a lot. But, I mean, when you go on these shows you, you're cool with everyone. But I wouldn't say, like, I made a bond with someone on the show. sure. I mean, I know Chloe. Okay. What are your dating red flags? Fuck. They got over 100K followers. That's probably right away. If they have over 100K followers, red flag?

Yeah, I mean, a red flag might be like if they don't have a childhood teddy in their bed, that's probably a red flag. It's like, where's your safety net? It's not there. Okay. I feel like if she keeps mentioning that, X, which I was on the date with the other day. And she kept doing that. And I was like, why am I something talking about? Should we chat to him?

Let's get him on FaceTime. Should we invite him to come here? Like, what are we doing? Also, if they got long, pointy nails, oh my God, stay away for me. Stay away for me. How long are we talking here? Like, long enough, bro. Like, just the point, the point shits.

The points shit. I like the little squares. You like clean. Yeah, okay. Yeah, the little 1.5 blue sky, French tits. You got some, you had some back injuries from those points before? Like, where's the trauma come from? Like, are they digging into the back here?

Yeah, type. I literally, literally. Literally. Literally. Yeah, every girl I've messed with that I've had that sort of give, you know. Okay, so cut the nails if you're going on a date with Louis. Cut the nails. Don't mention X.

need a teddy lose the followers yeah please fuck okay any green flags has a teddy in the red has a teddy in the bed let's suppose yeah time

um no what is like my main green flag I feel like if like I've been on I've been on dates or like linked girls and like if they try and help me

just little things like just little things Like I might get out of bed, right? And I'm just going to make food for us. And I come back and the bed's made. Like, if I don't know you that well, and it's only like a couple times linking and you've done that, that's like a really good sign.

Because it's like, I'm going to make food. You're not just lazing around. You're like making sure it's clean when I get back. But you don't have to do that because we're not at that stage yet. Like little things like that, you know? Oh, that's a good one. I used to do that for Nick. Did you ever know this?

No, she stopped. Well, now we're mostly. married, no three kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do other things. No, no, my wife just did. It actually meant a lot. I started playing video games recently again,

just because I need some, I need a hobby. Yeah. You know, right, right. They got daughters. And I think in general it just gives my wife the ick, because it is pretty fucking nerdy. The video games? Yeah.

What do you play? What do you play? Football. Oh, that's dead. Yeah. That is so dead. But she... Because I don't know how to play.

I don't know how to play. I don't know. So it'd be like, yeah. Yeah, let's say I was playing FIFA soccer, football. And she got me a headset so I could talk to my friends, even though I, it like, it looks really. It hurt me to buy. What?

You can say, even though you have no friends? No, no, like, I can I, I, I'm in a whole league. I'm in a whole league. I talk to that. It's like 20 guys. Yeah. And like, all the guys I talked to wanted me to get a headset. And I was like, I can't.

If I, if I order a headset, my wife's going to, like, look at me differently. And it's going to, like, it's not going to be good. And she heard me. say that and she bought me a headset. It was just like a gesture, right? Like it was just, and honestly it felt like it was a really, because knowing how she overall feels about me playing,

not great, but she was supporting me. And it was like, honestly, it meant a lot. It was great. Green flag, green flag. I did it with my eye shut. I was like a purchase. Would you, I'm curious, like, because dating with a kid, it's a thing.

A lot of people have mixed feelings, even people, even single people, parents with kids, sometimes we'll be like, I don't know if I'm willing to date someone who also has kids, even if that feels hypocritical. Are you still open to dating someone with a kid, or is that your recent experience kind of change your perspective? Oh, no, no, no, that my recent experience made it so, like, it's all good. I was, I'll date someone with a kid. Okay. Also, we're in a, we're in a generation. We're in it, we're definitely in a generation. So you have to be open-minded at this Like shit.

How are you on like introducing your son to someone you're dating? Like what what boundaries or ideas or rules have you come up with when the event, when you inevitably meet someone and get to get closer with them? Like how are you going to juggle that decision to going to bring someone into your kid's life? Well, to meet my kid, that is like something I ain't got to you. and his mom is, what's the right world without being disrespectful? Annoying.

Protective. Protective. But like also me too. Like I don't want just anyone meeting my kids to be honest. But like I think like a year of date, like mumps, eight to a year of dating someone, I feel like you can maybe introduce him. But also in her defense, my kids are baba.

Like he's a baby. She ain't no one need to meet my kids yet You can't I feel like the reason why Is that even for her Like I'm strict on that a little bit Like I want her I definitely want her to be at home

Please if you're watching this Go date Please But Like for meeting my kid Until he can verbally tell me things Until he can come back Yeah

And be like daddy Da da da da da da da da da da da Yeah That's when it's like acceptable for someone to meet my kid because then he can tell us. Yeah. I think that's so important because we just put our two and a half year old in preschool. And I was like, my sister was telling me we could do it at two.

And it was all the stuff. And I was like, I really want her to be able to, like you said, be able to come home from school and tell me like her teacher said this, this kid did this. Like I don't want to just not know what's going on. Yeah. It's important. It is very important. It's a, I can only imagine that challenge of trying to like, you know, be happy for the mother of your child, but knowing that like them meeting someone inevitably means that they're going to have a potential relationship with your kid and the challenges.

And it's like it's, it's very difficult. And it feels like, yeah, you, you have to make decisions outside of yourself, right? Like, it's such a challenge. Like, it's tough. First of all, I wouldn't want nor will it ever be a case where I have another man raising my kid, nor. What is it like you don't want your kid to even be around another man? Yeah. But at the end of the day, like, I don't want to be with his mom.

So I'm not going to make it hard or stop her from being with someone for that sake. But it has to be an understanding, again, a boundary set, being like, okay, you needs to be someone we trust. You especially, but like I need to, before he even meets my kid, he got to speak to me. so I can read him. And our kids being able to talk to let us know what's going on, you know? Just safety reasons. Those are good. No, those are, yeah, that's good advice, actually.

What are you most excited about in terms of what you have coming down the pipeline or what's next for you? Boxing definitely, just because of hard I've been working, like in a short-term goal, boxing. In my long term, I'm excited for music because I've got an EP. I got a couple songs that I'm ready to drop and I'm excited for people to actually hear them and hear the full things.

What kind of music is it like? Got some like Afro beats, like reggaeton, hip-hop. It's like just jolly. Did you and Hood ever make music together? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Will anyone ever hear that music? Hell no.

Okay. Hell no. Were you guys more competitive or more supportive when it came to your, you know, professional ventures supportive supportive I mean there's like

there's like no they weren't competition that's cap it's just straight support at the end of the day I love that and then your streetwear brand tell us about that

oh yeah I'm getting actually right as we talking I've got suppliers sorting me out tracksuits because I've been waiting for that there just ain't been time for me to like work on that

because of all the bullshit and all the shits whatever but now I can finally like settle down a bit, got everything straight, and now I can reinvest the money we made, putting it into like streetwear stuff like joggers and tracksuits. Are you going to make toddler sizes? See, do you know what? I was thinking that actually.

I was thinking that I feel like I'm massive. So like with my kid, I'm massive on like what he eats, what he wears, how much TV he consumes. Like me and his mama are like on that. I'm thinking of like making within my brand like stuff that's good for their skin because you know all the stuff we put on our skin has got some type of microplastics

or polyesterine and all that shit. Our skins are our largest organ, man. Yeah, biggest absorber too. So like make that like for all ages. That would be quite dope. You should. I'm going to speak to my designer about that actually. Also, like, there's just a lot of money to be made in baby clothes, bro.

Like, I believe it, yeah. She's, like, she's saying yes to the dress. Like, whatever it is. She just buys it. Yeah, oh, yeah. Like, do we really need that? She's like, it doesn't matter. And now we have three, like, they all have to match.

It's the whole thing, you know. Do you be matching? You said you've got twins, right? Yes. Yes, they're matching. Whenever we can. Whenever we can. Okay.

To wrap things up, Louis, and I appreciate you taking the time. It's been fun getting to know you. As someone I know who doesn't spend a lot of time and energy worrying about what the internet thinks them, nevertheless, if you had to say, how do you want people to view you online in terms of the person you are versus the person they sometimes think you are? I would say that I'm hardworking and caring. The reason I am hardworking was because I've got a lot to care for. I got my mom, I got my son.

I got a lot of weight on my shoulders of expectations with my family. I have a lot of big plans and ideas what I want to do in the future. So I feel like everything I do is for a bigger picture rather than myself. I'd say like I'm a caring, hard work in person, that's what I would say. I think it honestly that shows through, through this interview. I mean, I feel we've been talking for, I don't know, an hour and a half. And I feel like I've gotten to know you. and I like, the person that I thought you were is like, I don't even remember what I thought

because this has come through so genuinely and you truly seem like you're such a good dad and you're such a good son and you're such a good friend and like loyalty means so much to you. And I think that's really shown through just in this interview. And I really, I mean, I really appreciate this conversation. It's been really great. I mean, appreciate you guys for having you. It's ironic because you're, and I kind of relate to this, but like, like you, I try to stay out of the drum. I'm pretty good at like not listening in the noise,

but being in the space, it just sometimes, I don't know if it finds me or whatever, and kind of to Nalia's point, I feel like a lot of people who see you online just see you wrapped up in drama. And obviously that's kind of the space that we signed up for, but you see anything but like someone who leans into the drama. Obviously, like, you know,

throughout this interview, we asked a lot of questions. You could tell you're very careful out of respect for the people in your life. and I'm sure you probably could have been a lot more dramatic, so to speak, if you wanted to. But you definitely did not choose violence, so to speak. Yeah, I never choose violence ever, ever, ever. Violence is not the answer. I have on my arm this toe right here.

It says, darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. And hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that. I do not believe in get backs or trying to make someone look bad. I'm just not, never been that type of person. Never been that type of person. We appreciate that, man. You seem like a good person to have in someone's corner. Too right.

Too right. Especially as a friend, I'm the most loyal. All my friends. Old friends, new friends, they'll all tell you. It's a good quality of a half of it. Well, Louis, we appreciate taking the time, man. And it's been fun getting to know you a little bit better than we have before. I appreciate you for having me, isn't it?

Yeah, it's great to have you on, man. Wishing you the best of luck with everything, all your ventures, the boxing. That's actually pretty fun to watch. Yeah, we want to come to a match. Let us keep us posted. Yeah, I mean, if I got one in America nearby, because I think the next one is going to be in London or Manchester, so that's a bit far. But you guys can definitely come.

It's fun. Yeah. Are we streaming them all? Yeah, yeah. They're all going to be on the zone misfits. All right, man. Well, I appreciate you. luck with everything.

Appreciate it. Bye, Louie. Appreciate it. Thank you.