The Viall Files - E185 Don’t Block The F-ing Doorway with Daisy Fuentes & Richard Marx

Episode Date: October 14, 2020

On this episode of The Viall Files we are joined by the legendary couple that is Daisy Fuentes & Richard Marx. After her first divorce Daisy was content with the life she had created for herself and thought she would never get married again, but she started singing a different tune when she met Richard and realized she had found the one person that was changing her mind. Richard has realized in his life, that true happiness comes when you aren’t searching for it. They discovered that in being truly happy with themselves as individuals first, were they then able to to be the perfect partner for each other. So sit back, relax and get ready for some #couplegoals on todays show. “ Your welcome to come into my life, your welcome to leave, just don’t block the f-ing doorway ” You guys nominated us and now it is time to vote, so please go to https://pca.eonline.com/pop-culture/the-pop-podcast-of-2020 and vote for The Viall Files as your favorite Pop Podcast Of 2020 for The E! People's Choice Awards.  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes.  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Masterclass: http://www.maasterclass.com/viall for 15% off an annual membership  Bombas: http://www.bombas.com/viall for 20% off your first purchase  Helix Sleep: http://www.helixsleep.com/viall for up to $200 off Bright Cellars: http://www.brightcellars.com/viall use the discount link to get your first 6 bottle box for 50% off  Episode Socials:  @viallfiles @nickviall @daiseyfuentes @therichardmarx See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

what's going on everybody happy hump day wednesday i'm gonna say hump day because maybe if it's not wednesday and you're listening to this you're still humping maybe with yourself i don't know maybe it's entirely possible i hope you guys are having a great day whatever day it might be for you i am nick host of the vile files joined by my producer chrissy who's still not here i'll be back soon. Uh-huh. Riding that. Only a couple more days and I'll be back with you. I promise. Mm-hmm. Okay.

Don't be sad. Anyway, we got a great episode today. Two icons, legends. I mean, I can't. Who are now happily married, Daisy Fuentes and Richard Marks. I have like starstruck Richard Marks. Like I couldn't even, I could barely like, I was freaking out the entire time. It's Richard Marks. I have like starstruck Richard Marks. I could barely like... I was freaking out the entire time.

Who am I more starstruck by? I guess I'm going to have to probably say Daisy's just because I'm a guy and she's hot. And when I was in college... MTV, it was... It was like... I had every Richard Marks...

I still have every Richard Marks VHS tape of every concert he's ever done that he put out. I was obsessed. How many... It's kind of scary. How many breakups and love stories has Richard Marks influenced over the years? I mean, school dances.

But then after talking to him and seeing Richard's hair... Wow. So good, his hair. Fuck, it's good. Oh my God's hair wow so good his hair fuck it's good oh my god it's so good so they are a fun exciting couple who I mean they just have such a fun

relationship it was just fun to talk to them see what they're up to talk about their relationship the success that they've had just two fun down to earth people and I couldn't have had more fun talking to them. So I hope that you enjoy it as much as I did. And before we get to that interview, there's the People's Choice that's still voting going on.

I hope that you've been voting every day for your favorite show, only if it's this one. For the people. I'm going to give this award to you guys. So why don't you just go ahead and vote for yourselves? That would be amazing. And thank you for everyone who's voting

and posting about it. And they're doing 25 times a day every day. If you've already voted, it couldn't be more easy to vote every day. It takes maybe a second to just go to the link and then... So just sorry for begging anywho um also uh monday uh we have a fun astic episode with the very talented and lovely kelly oxford

she's hysterical on social media she's also a talented writer and funny and has some great insight on relationships she joins us for ethnic episodes on monday and obviously we are are back better than ever with uh clara season which is off to a dramatic start and i don't think it will disappoint the rest of the way so all right all right. Well, without further ado, legendary Daisy Fuentes and Richard. Daisy and Richard, how's it going? How are you, Nick? It's going great. I'm doing great.

Thanks for joining. Yeah. My pleasure. So you guys are, where are you guys located these days? We are in Malibu. Malibu. Have you been pretty bunkered down since quarantine there? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, we've barely left the house, practically. We have not. We actually just, maybe two weeks ago, we went out to dinner just down the street at a really kind of not a terribly public place for the first time since March. Since March. It was nice. It was nice. And we immediately said, we don't ever need to do this again. We just wanted to get back to that house.

As soon as you got there, you just wanted to leave? Yeah. Well, kind of. We met a friend of ours who we love but and we've had maybe two or three times we've had people come over and we open up you can't see but these doors all open up to the beach because we're right on the beach so you feel kind of like you're outside it's a little more and we're still socially distanced and all that but there's just uh for us we're we we have not taken this lightly at all I don't think we've become neurotic about it, but we're erring way on the side of caution.

Well, because we've got our parents and we're taking care of Richard's mom, who's 85 and immune compromised. So we're trying to just be a little extra careful. But we've been really I think a lifesaver to me has been the fact that we are on the beach and we can go hiking and if it wasn't for being near nature I think I would have lost my freaking mind yeah yeah did you guys how from the beginning to now did you guys go through moments of hey we're enjoying the peace and quiet of like hey well it's it's great because like we're supposed to stay at home and I love being at home to like I need to get the fuck out of here and then back to like settling in has it been like that's how it was for me

pretty much it's yeah i think most people have sort of ridden that whole roller coaster of different emotions yeah um you know when when we decided i think it was march 7th uh we flew back from new york i was supposed to leave the next day to go do a tour in Europe of 22 shows throughout Europe. And we just shut it all down. Like, I think I was one of the first tours to cancel. And then everybody within a couple of days, every tour canceled after that. And for both of us, it's not just that we were busy. And then all of a sudden we had to stop. for both of us, it's not just that we were busy and then all of a sudden we had to stop. It's that our whole lives, our whole adult lives have been go, go, go, travel, travel, travel.

Living out of a bag. Living out of a suitcase. And we bitch and moan sometimes when we're on the road because we just want to be home and be in one place. But then you get home and a couple of weeks later, you're like, what the fuck? I just keep looking over at my bags. What do you think, if anything? Because this has gone on long enough that the world's going to change. I mean, it has changed. And it's going to change permanently on some aspects.

For you guys personally, God willing, let's say six months from now or whatever, there is a, not a cure, but a, what do they call it? A vaccine vaccine. Thank you. Uh, and the world gets back to relatively normal. What do you think you guys, for you guys personally, as a couple, as individuals won't go back to way the way you guys used to do things as a result of this kind of new norm that you guys have been, as individuals, won't go back to the way you guys used to do things as a result of this kind of new norm that you guys have been living for the past several months. We've talked about this, actually. I'll let you take this one first. You know, I think one of the things that I want to hold on to is being home more and having people

over and enjoying and just enjoying time with the people who we truly love and miss. I think that we were getting caught up in like you have to go out or you have to go to a big fancy gala or you have to have a big fancy dinner. And it's so not about that anymore. I have embraced just simplicity. And doing takeout or making some pasta and not being fancy and if you're not down with that then go away like i i'm not about like doing big fancy crazy things anymore you know what i mean i just want to talk i think um i think the other thing is that

um for for me i think i think it's been a a little bit more of a an adjustment period for me than it has he has been even for daisy in that when i met daisy years ago, eight years ago, she had figured out a way to really turn off the world when she wanted to in terms of like going on a vacation. When she would go somewhere or we would go somewhere, she was really present in those trips and unplugging and just being, you know, sitting on the beach or just being in the water or wherever we were in Aspen or wherever we would go, she would be completely present no matter how long

we stayed. And I was,'t I didn't have the conditioning uh and it took me a while yeah it took me a while and now I'm quite good at it now I'm really good at it to the point where you know if I'm lucky enough to go back to touring and doing concerts a year from now which is the plan and next next next fall. Um, I wonder how much of that will be almost like a new experience for me all over again. And in the opposite way, will it be, I mean, it's going to be exciting and I can't wait to be able to go back and perform, but I, I was used to being on the road for long stretches and being fine with it. Um, but now I think that if anything, this has taught me that there is a great balance to be had that I

that I didn't have before yeah I mean especially for for you Richard because you're the lifestyle you said touring traveling most people don't have they don't get to do what you you get to do well what do you do what do you do to unwind and to just totally shut your mind down and be present chill out i relate more to richard in the sense that my my resting state is still go go go go go like when i don't have things to do i get anxious or i feel like i'm not being unproductive and even when i'm supposed to just be present and enjoying life being present is probably my greatest weakness that I can probably think of yeah um and especially when I'm around loved ones or friends to just you know just be present and enjoy them it's it's it's a challenge for me and so um it's been something I've really tried to to get better at you know so has this time sorry okay has this time um enabled you to find

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Do you find that it gets worse or more difficult to do that the more successful you are as opposed to when you were younger and just kind of had the big dreams in your mind of what life wanted to be? had the big dreams in your mind of, you know, what life wanted to be. And you were kind of hustling, you know, when you were young and really getting into the groove and then you become successful. Does it make it worse? Uh, for me, I think you could argue that it does because I, I'm so afraid of losing it, you know, in a sense. So the little, anytime I taste some success, my first thought is to try to protect it. I, you know, I, before I did any of this in the entertainment business, I was in sales and like the mindset and before sales, I was in sports. And especially for sales, it's like, you know, every month there's a reset button.

It doesn't matter what you did. It doesn't matter what you did, you know, know your next month you're all back to zero and there was always that it kept you sharp but it always was this kind of unsettling feeling and that has stuck with me it helps me sometimes but it also doesn't allow me to really um enjoy the things i'm doing and so that's you know one of the things one of the things that i doing. And so that's, you know, one of the things, one of the things that I told Richard in regards to that is that I think will work for you and anyone who has had success or has success. You will always have it. You know, this fear of success going away, just because you are maybe a little bit less visible

doesn't mean you don't have success. Like today, you are the most successful you've ever been in your life. And tomorrow or next week, you'll be even more successful. So even if you're not as busy, and you are not as visible, no one's going to take that success from you. With him, all the hits that he's had, all the success, the awards, no one's taking that away from him. You have levels of being at your peak and you can't maintain that.

And if you try to maintain that state of mind of being at your peak, you gonna go crazy you will have different levels of of visibility of success of being busy but no one's gonna take that away from you there are also different definitions of success you know and that that definitely changes over time as you get older and you gain experience life experience and i don't know about you, but Daisy and I have had this conversation many times. I think for both of us, what other people would consider our most successful times of our lives were coincided with us being probably the most unhappy we've ever been. being probably the most unhappy we've ever been. You know, when I was, when I, when my career was, um, really on fire in terms of like being on, you know, every video was, you know, blasted on MTV and every single was at the top of the charts and I was touring nonstop and

I was, uh, I didn't enjoy it. I was, I was really wrapped up in kind of what you just mentioned. I was just so obsessed with keeping it going and protecting it and fearing that it was going to go away. That the next thing I knew, years would go by and I didn't celebrate any of that great success. I was so caught up in the paranoia of keeping it. So in a way, you could say, well, yeah, that was a really incredibly successful time, but it didn't feel like it because I wasn't having any fun. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I know what you're, I know what you're saying and that's definitely something I've been, you know, working on. And so, uh, it's, it's nice to, to have you reinforce that, that feeling. Um, is that the same with you, Daisy? Did you, I mean,

same mentality or you've been always better at that? I, you know, I wasn't know i was always known how to have fun yeah but it's different because because you know when i was younger i didn't have this talent that i needed to be to be exposed and successful with i got lucky in that um i was able to start modeling at a young age which was something that was kind of a dream of mine when I was, you know, 14 years old. I used to look through the magazines and think, what a wonderful life that must be. So I did get a chance to do that early on. And from there, I quickly jumped onto, you know, an opportunity of a lifetime to do television and quickly got into MTV.

So it was very quick. And then I kind of became the it girl, you know, where you're just getting offers and opportunities. And I was on MTV US and I was on MTV in Latin America. And I had a show that aired on MTV Europe. So it was worldwide, like literally in two different languages. And it was a lot. So I started getting offers as, you know, not just for modeling, but now as a spokesperson. So I had deals with some of the biggest companies,

you know, from Revlon to American Express to you name it, M&Ms, I was doing commercials, I was, I had, you know, multi year campaigns signed and movie offers. And was just going going going going and I don't remember much of it and that's the problem it wasn't like I was trying to achieve a certain goal like oh I want to be the most my goal was never to be the most famous person but like you I thought oh this is gonna be the last offer I get this is gonna be the last offer I get. This is going to be the last job I get. And I was so busy going from one thing to the next and just working, working, working that I don't remember much of my life from, you know, over a decade. Yeah, it is kind of bizarre. It's time always, it seems like it moves so fast and then slow at the same time,

all depending on your frame of mind.'s i wish i paid attention more i wish i'd been more present and remembered more things and just yeah because yeah you just i forgot a lot of it it's just like i i get hotels mixed up with the cities and people mixed up with jobs and it's just a big mess in my mind of like over a decade can i ask you a question daisy i'm here just because i'm latin but you were also like the first latin vj like the first latin girl for revlon like you were became so iconic for being this representation that people didn't see all the time so was was there pressure there as well that you felt like you had to do everything because you were? I always just had a really great work ethic. So I didn't think of that so much. You got to remember when I first started, the word crossover didn't even

exist. So I didn't know what was going on or what it was going to become. I just had a really strong work ethic. So I think that that probably automatically translated into the authenticity of just doing the right thing and being yourself and representing yourself the right way. But I was too young to even know who I was or what I wanted to stand for. So I just focused on the work and got lucky enough to be able to do something that eventually became really groundbreaking for our community, for Hispanics in this country, you know, to be able to do that crossover that very few people have done even today. Yeah. Do you still, like with any young Latin women, do you pride yourself in being a role model in that space? Or do you have people reach out to you as kind of from an inspirational standpoint? Yeah, sometimes. Sometimes I do. And I don't necessarily see myself as a role model. But if anybody can take anything from my experiences or from my life lessons, then that's great.

I mean, I know I love hearing from people who, who I admire, who I think have done great things, whether in their life personally or in their careers. So I, yeah, I hope I can, my life lessons or some of the things that I've done can inspire some young

women to take over. That's great. I was listening to your guys' podcast, Tequila Talk, on the way in, and what was pretty evident of listening to it is you guys just seem to have a lot of fun together. We really do. You just kind of riffed. And what I guess is maybe, I don't know, maybe it is unique. I don't know if it's unique.

But you always, you go to, you know, when people would go to restaurants, how many times do you see like the couples just like sitting at a dinner table like staring at each other or their food? And here you guys are creating a podcast out about it. You guys are clearly having fun with one another. I'm assuming it's not just when you're recording a podcast. No, it's only then. It's only that one hour.

You just save it. We really do. Actually, I don't see you in between. Yeah only that one hour you just save it we really actually we that's how you do it huh i'm not i don't really care for her terribly oh we have too much fun you know you gotta remember that we only met in our 40s okay well that's what we both come with an entire lifetime behind us that we're still catching up with it's amazing well that's what i wanted to ask you about daisy you were um pretty outspoken about not wanting to get married again uh when when was she ever when richard proposed to you and you know so much of the people who call in the show when we do our episodes and ask for

advice and i always try to it's so hard to to get people to understand perspective you know no matter what age you are it's something i've kind of learned that i really lacked when i was younger but the fear of taking risks as we get older in life or the fear of quote unquote starting over. And it's something I really tried to talk about in terms of like, you know, it's never too late, et cetera, to try new things. You know, here I was, I changed my career completely, a career that I quite liked and I was happy with, but I didn't know if I loved it. Right. And I just wondered if there was maybe something more in my early to mid thirties, you know, for people who have breakups, who have divorces and they, they feel like, well, this is it for me. I might've, I'm just, it's over. I had my, my shot. Like, what do you guys say to that? And, you know, specifically Daisy,

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Well, I thought I didn't want to get married. I'd been married when I was really young for four and a half years. And then I went on to have a few long-term relationships that were fine until they weren't anymore. And I just thought I was at a place in my life where I was so content with everything that I had built in my life and around my life with my friends, my family, my home, that I thought, I'm so good. Like, this is just fine. Whoever wants to come into my life is great great because I do love being in a relationship. And I was realizing from all of my experiences and from my friends' experiences that good things don't last. And there is no such thing as a perfect relationship.

So, yes, I was a little jaded in that respect. But I was still very open to meeting someone. but I was still very open to meeting someone. And the relationship that I ended up having with Richard was almost like that fairytale relationship that I kept envisioning in my mind thinking, well, I'm not going to have one of those relationships unless it's that relationship. Other than that, I'm just going to go with the flow

and it's going to be a relationship until my vibe is you know screwed and then you can leave so you're welcome to come into my life you're welcome to leave just don't block the fucking doorway you know what i mean i love that i mean so when richard came into my life i was just like he's almost too good to be true so i gave him a little bit of a hard time because i thought he was too good to be true so i gave him a little bit of a hard time because i thought he was too good to be true but he ended up being exactly who he said he was and then i thought you know by the time he asked me to get married i thought i never wanted to get married

but i would totally want to be married to you you know so it's it's different and and i found that it doesn't you don't really get into that place unless you have created a life for yourself that you're truly happy with and if you're not nobody else is going to come in and be truly happy with you in your life if you're not and it's a lot of pressure to put on anybody to make you happy you have to be happy and in a good place it really is i mean and i mean i loved how you said, don't block my fucking doorway. I think that's what we're going to title this episode. No, it's great though. But what would you say to, I mean, it's such a cliche question, but if you could think

of young Daisy, early Daisy, and like what you said was unique, but it's been said before you said it is in a very creative way but you you talk about just being comfortable with being single comfortable with who you were right and i love what you said it's just like i don't even like that you well i don't like that you said jaded because i don't think i'm jaded i think i'm i'm realistic you're more self-aware and like i said i don't think you're jaded because you were still open. You know, you're just like, I'm just not like desperate. I don't need to be with someone. I'm not going to label myself if I'm single in a negative way.

I'm still going to do my thing. What I don't is need it, but I'll have it if it's great. And then, like you said, I think it sounds like that's what allowed you to meet someone like Richard. Yeah, but the jaded part comes in when I look back, I can realize I was jaded because that perfect relationship that I wanted and I wasn't going to settle for anything less, I was sure didn't exist. And it does exist.

And my idea of a perfect relationship is different than your idea of a perfect relationship and the next person's idea of a perfect relationship. So it's really about figuring out what your deal breakers are. What are you not going to negotiate for yourself and for your life? And that don't settle for anything less. And those terms are going to be different for everyone. Yeah.

What about you, Richard? I mean, your relationship with Daisy is not your first. Did you ever have moments of jadedness, or were you always pretty optimistic about your relationship life? I think it was a little trickier for me in that I married my first wife when I was really young. We met when I was 19 or 20. We got married when I was 23, 24. Started having kids right away.

We were married for a long, long time. I have nothing but good things to say about my ex. Really fine person. And I think that probably like most other long marriages, which ultimately make the choice to end, it's really just a case of you grow, not even necessarily apart, but you just grow in different directions. Or you realize that, especially once you've raised your kids, and once it's really just the two of you again, decades later, you go, wait, this isn't like I want to do this, this, this and this. I think this way and this way and that way. And the other person is has changed as well.

Right. And so it was not an even attached to another partner. It was that I wanted a different kind of life for myself. And it was a really difficult time, obviously, getting divorced after all those years. And the funny thing is that even though I had met Daisy, and I always thought Daisy was amazing. I mean, back, you know, decades ago, I had a crush on her like everybody else did. But I had met her. And she was one of the first, she was really the first person who I went on a date with after I after I'd been married for 100 years. And it was such a cliche in a way

because I immediately fell madly in love with her. Like the minute I sat down at a dinner table with her and spent a few hours talking to her, I became completely, as my mother loves the word, besotted. That's a great old classic word. I became completely infatuated and besotted that's a great that's a great old classic word i became completely infatuated and besotted with daisy and it was it was too much for her at one like she was like dude you just you

just got divorced like 10 seconds ago and now it's like all about me and she and she was seeing the sort of cliched warning signs um and so she was the one that made sure that we took it really slow even to the point where she broke up with me for a while like she wouldn't see we stopped seeing each other for a little while because she she knew that if we were to just forge ahead with this that i would not have the perspective that I needed to create a space where this exists you know sure she she in a sense almost forced me to the way she described her life that was so poetic and that you responded to she basically was saying to me you need to do that for yourself you know who you are as a single man yeah

you need to be you need to date and you need to do this. I made him go out and date. I don't know what I was thinking, but I did. Yeah. I think that's great. I mean, there's nothing. It's so hard. What you have, Daisy, obviously, is what so many of us lack is kind of that inner courage

or strength to just accept how things will play out. Obviously, have confidence yourself. It's hard in a dating situation. How many times do we, it's like we know what we're supposed to do. We know we're not supposed to like text them when, you know, or on their, whatever it is, or show up, or we know we're not supposed to post

the sappy, pathetic thing on social media that makes us look sad and pathetic, but in that moment, we think it going to let that person know how much we miss them. Like it's so hard to do. And yet Daisy had this strength to say, I don't know how this is going to play out, but this is what you need to do.

And if it works out, you'll be back, you know, here for me, it's just so hard to do. And Daisy obviously had the ability to do that. But I think that's great that you did that. Nick, I think the most important fact, which needs to be, I think it's important in this conversation to really spell it out.

created was also a surefire sort of way of proving that neither of us had an agenda with each other in terms of, well, certainly we had, our circumstances were really unique. We, you know, we met later in life. Daisy was incredibly successful. She didn't need anything from me. She didn't need financial support from me. She didn't need, you know, she'd been through enough relationships and learned enough about relationships as she described, where she knew She didn't need financial support from me. She didn't need, you know, she'd been through enough relationships and learned enough about relationships as she described, where she knew she didn't need someone in her life to make her happy. She carved out a really great life for herself. What I needed to do was be in that place where I wasn't needing someone. And so when you slowly but surely remove every possible agenda, and I know that that has such a bad connotation, but most relationships have, even in the most loving relationships, there's an agenda attached. Either it's someone who really wants to have a family,

or somebody who really wants to feel safe and taken care of and all that. Really wants to feel uh safe and taken care of and all that really wants to get married you get rid of all that shit and you're only together purely because you just want to be with that person that's why i think this works so far i mean we you know we're still kind of new we'll be married five years at the end of the year but you know i feel like we've done this one right and um and i think it's because we are so happy independently that it just makes us yeah 10 times happier together and we're still aware that this could not work at some point and then you know i don't want him to feel like he's stuck with me if he's no longer happy or in love you know you have no i

aware i love that you guys are saying that yeah because it's something i've recently especially with a lot of our callers and it sounds counterintuitive but i've been really kind of advocating to people just like you know every i actually had i had a friend call for for dating advice it's actually someone who was on the show and i was talking to him and i was like i'm not saying you need to break up with this person i'm saying you you're he was saying i know this is finally my i finally found my person i know it's her right and then he would immediately follow it up by saying well i don't know if i like this and she does this and i'm unhappy with this and And I was like, listen, you need to accept the possibility that she's not your person.

I'm not saying she isn't, but I think that will free you up to making clearer decisions about what you need or how you feel. And too many of us are in relationships being unwilling to consider the possibility that this isn't the match that we decided to tell ourselves early on and then immediately making excuses for the person we're with while all all while feeling unhappy and so here you are you guys are just like i don't know we'll see and clearly you guys are super happy with each other but every day that goes by you're just like i'm not i'm not gonna tell myself and convince myself i'm happy i'm not gonna tell myself and convince myself i'm happy i'm just gonna let myself be happy and you guys are happier for it you know i think that's that's great and also how you said about your friend who who's saying well you know this is my person i'm

really into her but then there's this that i don't like and then there's that i don't like and and but you know nobody's perfect we're all looking for someone to be so perfect. And I think it's so great to let people be exactly who they are. As long as you know what your deal breakers are and this person meets that, let that person be flawed in all their glory and learn. Let them learn what they need to learn. flawed in all their glory and learn let them learn what they need to learn and we all need to look at ourselves and be like well i don't like this so much about myself how can i change that how can i improve this about myself like don't worry about the other people like fix yourself you know what i mean you have to be realistic in that you know i mean it's nearly impossible to find someone as perfect as me. Yes, it's true, honey.

But you did. But you've accepted that reality, yeah. And I found her. Well, with that hair, Richard, it's hard to, I mean, do you have a hair routine? As someone who has curly hair. Oh, dear Lord. I'm just going to go get a drink now.

My hair routine? Did you just call it a hair routine? Do you have one? I don't know. Is this God's gift? This is God's gift. He actually complains about this. He's like, it's just so curly.

I'm like, will you just shut up? What is wrong with you? No, but like, up in the day, it was like, kind of like the fluffy, like, Richard, my first four concerts in life were Richard Marks concerts. Oh my God, I love that. Yeah, Wilson Phillips and Richard Marks. But it was definitely more of like a fluffy mullet. Oh, big time. I feel like this is a good look.

Well, he actually says, I don't know. I feel like my hair is just not as full as it used to be. I'm like, if it was any fuller. That's insulting. There's so many men out there. Sorry. No, I have no hair routine. It's like, oh, my God, my hair.

I don't know what to do with all of my hair. So I'll tell you what my hair routine was this morning, if you really want to know i woke up about an hour before this and i put some i why i didn't even wash it i just put some conditioner in it and i shook my head like a dog and i put a little bit of this stuff that the guy that he hasn't cut my hair in eight months or something but he gave me this little uh this little cream it's like curl because my hair is really curly

and that's it and the guy he went to go sorry he went to go get a haircut oh yeah this is funny he hadn't seen his guy in seven or eight months

and he was going to cut it because he was going to do this he was going to record a TV thing and the guy saw him didn't recognize him and when he realized it was him

he was like I can't cut your hair I'm not cutting your hair I was him, he was like, I can't cut your hair. I'm not cutting your hair. I'm not cutting it. I won't. I won't cut your hair. You see, do you know how many assholes I have come in here that want that? Yeah.

No, I mean, you're, I'm one of those assholes. Like, I really wanted you to be like, you know, every morning I wake up at 5.50 a.m. and I walk up the mountains in Malibu and I cut down this specific tree and then I drain the sap from it and I rub it in my hair and then I would be like okay fine if I really wanted to wake up that early I could have hair like that but you're telling me it's not possible dude there's no I'm just really super lucky especially at 57 to still have any hair let alone this much so i'm very blessed how did you guys meet by the way twitter twitter yeah yeah really well i mean that makes sense your twitter game is is strong richard on fire well this is but this is years ago um we we you know because a lot of

times you'll you'll meet someone through Twitter because you both follow a common account. And Martha Quinn, who was one of the original MTV VJs, she and I started following each other when I joined Twitter years ago. And unbeknownst to me, Daisy followed Martha. And one day, Martha and I were having this kind of funny back and forth on Twitter. And Daisy saw it in her feed and she commented on it and she said something like oh my god you guys are giving me the sweetest 90s flashback or something like that

and so I saw it in my feed and I was like oh my god Daisy Fuentes what does she look like now holy shit she looks better than she's ever oh my god she's so gorgeous still um but then I started so then I started following her and I realized that just

like I used to think about her years ago when I would see her do interviews and I would see her on MTV you know her beauty her physical beauty is so obvious but I remember always thinking that there was something so cool about her like Like, I remember thinking, aside from being super hot, I bet she's a great hang. I bet she's just really fun. And then when I started to read her tweets and follow her on Twitter, I started to think she's really smart and she's really cool. And then, you know, years later, when we finally did meet, we already sort of knew each other a little bit through Twitter. A little bit.

But that's, you know, it's weird. For as much as we can give Twitter a bunch of shit for the cesspool that it is, it has provided me with the greatest relationship of my entire life and also a couple of other friendships that wouldn't have happened had Twitter not existed. That's great. Did you slide it? You didn't slide it into our DMs? You follow each other?

He sure did. I sure did. He sure did. I mean, not initially, but just like eventually. What did you say? It was really innocent. It was a great line. It was like, hey, I'm having this concert.

I'm doing this yeah hi i'm a rock star what are you doing friday i'm doing this live tape thing at the grammy museum in la i'm coming in for just a couple days would love to invite you to the show well so he he pulled his rock star status and it worked. Hey, no shame. That is awesome. Yeah, that's how we met. And then, but then we took it pretty slow. Like I said, we saw each other for a little while

and then we stopped seeing each other for a while and then we picked it back up again. And by the time, that was a year into having met. And you still weren't living in LA, although you came to LA.A. a lot. So we would see each other. We would go out to dinner. And it was nice because it was nice and slow.

Yeah. And then when did you decide to propose, Richard? I mean, if I saw the interview, you just kind of took a leap of faith. You didn't check in. No. In fact, I think that we had gotten to the point where we were not technically living together,

but we were pretty much, we were together every night. But she still had her house, and I had my house, and we would kind of go back and forth. And we'd been together pretty solidly for, I'd say, nine months, ten months. And one of the reasons that it never even, it was never really in my mind that much because, like you'd said at the top of the show, Daisy had made it pretty clear that she was, I wouldn't say anti-marriage, but that the idea of getting married was not on her radar.

Like, what's the point? Why would someone like us? And frankly, having just come out a couple of years before of a very long marriage, that was not on my radar either. It was like, I just want to enjoy this relationship for whatever it is, you know? And she went with me. I was performing in Singapore, and I had a private show there on a Saturday

and then a public show at a beautiful venue the following Saturday. So in between, we went to the Maldives because it's a pretty easy trip to get there. And we'd always wanted to go to the Maldives. And we love traveling together. That's the other thing. If you find out really early on in your relationship that you travel well together, that's a big sign. That's a big sign. That's a big sign.

And so we went and had this incredible, beautiful, romantic week in the Maldives and came back to Singapore. I remember we were seeing a bunch of people getting married there. There was like a wedding every day. And I would be like, oh, look how pretty. Oh, look, they're getting married. Oh, that's so sweet. And she would sometimes go, what the fuck are they thinking? Why? And so we go back to singapore i do my concert and we're gonna fly home to la the next day

and we're up late at night we're having room service and we just ended up having this conversation about marriage and i saw a shift in her tone about it and i and it's at one point i said to her in this conversation i said you know if i knew you were you actually felt this way about marriage i probably would have asked you before now and she went are you asking me now and i went he froze and i froze because not because like oh shit i'm caught or anything like that I froze because I thought shit I don't want to freak her out because I totally wanted to marry her but I thought she's gonna like if I so I it was really one of those like you know does my how does my ass look in these pants you know like so I was like in between a martini sip and with french fries in my mouth it was after your show

we're in pajamas and like i'd like because it kind of sounds like you're asking i don't know i'm just saying and she said something like you know i mean i i might feel differently about it than i used to kind of like that it was just like i left the window she left the window a little open and i just thought i wasn't as jaded anymore i wasn't like that yeah well for you it's almost sounds like it was more than you were like yeah i totally will so we let's just say we landed you know on a monday afternoon tuesday morning i called my mom who i adore and who adores Daisy, and I said, hey, I need you to take a ride with me. I'm going to go into Beverly Hills and get a ring and ask Daisy to marry me.

And she was so excited. So we went. I went the next day and I got a ring. And then the day after that, I proposed. You can imagine my shock when I saw that ring. Well, I saw an interview. You said you hyperventilated before you said. I remember saying, just breathe, breathe.

And I remember saying to her, there's no wrong answer. Okay, good. Yeah. And it was really true. If she'd said, look, I love you and I love hanging out with you, but I don't want to get married, I would have been okay with that. to get married i would have been okay with that i mean i would have been a little disappointed but it would have been okay because and maybe we would have gotten married later but um it worked out where she just kind of took she jumped she took the leap have you richard you seem like an

incredibly obviously easygoing chill guy is that always the case in every aspect of your life? And have you always been that way? No. In fact, I would say that most of the people who've known me the longest would not describe me as chill. Up until the last five years or six years of my life. One thing that's really interesting is, and I, I take it as like maybe the greatest compliment I could get is that people who have known me for 30 years, 40 years have said to me, you're like a different guy. You're like a different person. And they mean

it in a really nice way in that I'm just much more relaxed and I'm much more happy and I'm much more more relaxed and I'm much more happy and I'm much more at ease with my own neurotic brain and I think I want to like I know I think I want to grow up to be Richard Marx it's a really amazing thing to feel like you you've really flipped the script at a stage of your life where you go yeah there's you recognize the things that were not serving you well in your life and you make this and you make the change. And, and we've been helping each other with that. I mean, obviously the, the big catalyst was Daisy and and way beyond just falling in love with her

and, and the romance of, and the, the hotness of it it's the it's what i've learned from her as a person i have so much respect for her opinions and her brain and um i just feel like the luckiest dude ever oh that's sweet um yeah you sound so down to earth and someone who's basically been a rock star his whole life, that seems to be an incredible feat in itself. Most people, like, you see people who are rock stars or famous people, and you just assume they're not normal. You're just like, ah, well, they're probably in their own world and not down to earth, and you accept that.

And then talking to you, it's just like you could be my neighbor in Wisconsin. You know, it's fine. It's chill. It's whatever, man. That part of me has always been that way. I think that's always been it. Another great thing about Richard is that he's a spectacular dad. He's just an extraordinary dad, which is also very sexy. How have you always been?

Like, so knowing that you're always able to do that, Richard, is I mean, it takes some self-awareness and the ability to check yourself. You can have all the friends around you. But how have you been able to do that Richard is I mean it takes some self-awareness and the ability to check yourself you can have all the friends around you but how have you been able to do that I mean you must have made that a priority to stay grounded throughout your life yeah well I started with my parents you know I had incredible parents I still have my mom luckily and my dad was an incredible influence on me as well. And they, they somehow always gave me incredible support and fueled my confidence, but never bullshitted me and would always call me out if I was out of line. But you also have always lived a very wellined life, which I think is important for all of us to really examine where we are in life and how we can be better,

how we can improve, you know, what we love or don't love about ourselves. And you've always been very much that way, self-analytical. Yeah. I think you have to be. Yeah. It's crucial.

I would agree. I mean, I really, I think that's great. I mean, I really relate to that great I mean I really relate to that I mean as happy and amazing as you guys are every couple has its challenges every couple fights a little bit what are the things that you guys get on each

other nerves about and how do you guys deal with it embrace it or is it just that magical that you haven't had that yet no no no but I'll tell you this one thing and i think it is a function of meeting somebody later on in your life and after you've had relationships and especially in our case where like i talked about there's no agenda

so there's less to argue about in terms of like raising kids or finances or any of that stuff that is pretty those that typical list of couple grievances you know sure so first of all there's so little for us to argue about um i'm a little bit controlling and and richard it has i have a phobia a phobia of anyone telling him what to do even if it's like oh close the refrigerator door you left it open don't tell me what to do kind of thing where it's i've told you a hundred billion times not to exaggerate so you're afraid of people to tell you what to do and you like to tell people what to do and yet you're yes and i i'm like i'm like look that's just what i do it's not personal just let me fucking tell you what to do yeah you don't have to do it just let me

sometimes when i'll go oh my god like seriously that's really fucking annoying this is something i've been doing my entire life and she'll go i know but i love you and you're doing it wrong yeah that's something i've found about myself uh that i even when i date now it's just like there's a difference between listen i always want to get better i want to be self-reflective and self-aware as well as just knowing who you are just like yeah hey if you're gonna date me there's just a couple things about me that yeah hey listen i'll try my best to to work on but there are limits to how how good i'm gonna be at and i don't want to pretend to be someone i'm not and just a heads up you can't you know when we're younger it's just like we'll spend a year just like fighting every, you know, common feeling we have just to pretend that we're good at things we're terrible at.

You know, it's just like, yeah, I'm terrible at that. I suck. I don't know. Like you can. I'll try. But if this is a non-negotiable for you, we should just stop now because this is who I am. And that's a very liberating feeling. It is.

Exactly. It is. Exactly. All right. Well, before I let you guys go, are you guys up for playing a fun game? Sure. All right. We usually play this game called Do You Know Me? But since there's both of you and you guys are relatively newlyweds, I thought we'd kind of do a Do You Know Me newlywed game version

where I'll ask you some questions chris and i will guess uh the you know who's does what better who you know you guys get the gist of it um so don't i'll ask the question don't answer right away and so instead of you guys figuring out if you guys know each other well you guys can fight or get along but chrissy and i are going to decide who does what better if that makes sense so do you know me with daisy and richard all right newlywed style newlywed ish all right question number. Who is a better driver? Well, currently I'm going to say Daisy because Richard only has one hand. Well.

For so many other reasons. I feel like they're both going say themselves yeah i think you're right that's what i think all right all right go ahead i'm a better driver no she's not i i nailed that listen richard richard is so good at so many things but he can't park for shit my parking has gotten over the years my parking my parallel parking has deteriorated meanwhile I can parallel park an 18 wheeler I'm just saying she can't she's got me on the parallel

I'll be honest Richard that sounds like Daisy is a better driver because parking is part of driving it's kind of major whatever it's kind of a big deal if you don't know where to put the car when you're done with it. Look, if I don't have to stop anywhere,

I'm a better driver. Right. Sometimes he'll park and you can fit another car between the sidewalk and where his car is. I'll give it that. Richard Marks, all gas and no brakes. Yeah.

All right. Question number two. gas and no brakes. Alright, question number two. Who is better at apologizing first or who is it better at admitting they're wrong or not making an argument

last longer than it otherwise should? I'm going to say Daisy's better at that than richard i have a reason why though yeah go for it what's your reason well first i want to get an answer that my my my mind is daisy will be quicker to apologize i don't even apologize but like won't or won't won't won't want richard likes a better like rich Richard likes to debate longer is what I'm saying. I think he likes a good debate. I'm going to disagree with you.

I'm going to say Richard. Okay. Richard is the one that's like, so whatever. Well, I mean, you guys, you've distorted the question. You're right. We did.

Well, I... So if the question is who's better at apologizing and taking responsibility for being wrong in a situation if that's the question who would you say you okay i would agree oh well they both okay but but who likes to debate and prolong an argument as long as possible. Okay. I was listening to your podcast, and you guys were talking about virgins and how many virgins in the world die virgins.

And Richard said, I bet that number is much larger than you would think. I bet it's a huge number. And then Daisy looked it up on the internet and i think the answer was something like 0.3 percent was the answer and without hesitation richard goes well see 0.3 percent and relative to the population of the world is obviously a huge number i'm just like that's the most bullshit argument in the world but you said it without hesitation and with such confidence that if you're not paying attention it would just be like oh yeah totally totally totally totally

spot on by the way that was i also richard i really appreciated that because i i like like you i was like you know talent knows talent knows talent, you know? Right. Well, look, and also just to put a point on it, when I know that I'm wrong and it's clear that I'm wrong, I don't have a problem saying I fucked up. No, you have a huge problem. I was wrong. But that's only going to happen after I've exhausted

every possibility of getting out of being wrong. Yeah, totally. I totally agree with you, Richard. I have no problem admitting I'm wrong, but you need to explain to me why I'm wrong. I'm not just going to offer that up. And I'm not wrong just because you say I'm wrong. You need to understand why you're wrong. It's very different. Yeah. Thank you. I need you to explain it to me. Like I'm a four year old child. Yes.

Uh, who is better at, uh, folding laundry? Oh, I'm going to say, um, Richard,

just because I think it would be fun. I feel like I have a lot of similarities with Richard, and it's fully modgy for me is the worst thing in the world I could possibly do. So I'm by default going to say Daisy. Daisy. Yeah, I'm much better. Daisy. Okay.

It would have been fun. I'm much better. Daisy. Okay. It would have been fun. I actually watch videos on the best way to fold shit and get it right. Yeah, I was in retail. I can do jeans.

Like, no, you got a jean closet. I'm coming in there. Yeah, yeah. Like, with the pocket, with the label. Daisy's so funny. It's weird because I'm a Virgo and she's a Scorpio, but she's much more meticulous about those kind of things than I am. Virgos and Scorpios are supposed to be really good together anyway. Oh, really?

Who is better at technology? We've had some technical difficulties for this show. And I got to say, I don't know if you guys see... I don't know if... No one seemed particularly worse or better than the other. I'm going to say maybe Richard because he's in a studio all the time and doing studio stuff.

Yeah, I'm going to say Richard's maybe better only because maybe he's dealing with it on a day-to-day basis with the music career. I would say that's dead on. I would say that I am better at technology than she is, but not by much because it's just that I'm aware I use different apps and I have to deal with different things than she does. So I guess the answer would be how she'll come to me and say hey can you figure this out for me much more than i'm i i can do it i'm i'm fine with it but if there's someone in the room who's also good i will let them do it yeah which is awesome because i just don't care final question who is the better cook jesus really this is this whole fucking thing is so skewed it's so skewed to our daisy chrissy wrote these questions richard yeah i think the next question is gonna be who has better pitch

yeah how about that well there was there's no sing better who has perfect pitch well she also wrote the question, who's a better dancer? And I was like, well, I mean, come on. Wow. You never know. Richard could have some moves. He does, just not on the dance floor. Who has better hair?

And Daisy, you have flawless hair. Amazing hair. I don't know. I think I lost that one, too. The whole thing is skewed because I have amazing hair, but she has better hair. No, Richard. You have better hair. I mean, just by... You're a 57-year-old man

who has the hair of a 16-year-old woman. 16-year-old girl, whatever. 16-year-old. It's incredible. That was awesome. Guys, this has been a ton of fun you guys um i feel like i could talk to you guys forever you guys seem like as you said richard total fun hangs um you have an infectious kind of personalities and it's exciting to see people find one another at whatever stage in the lives that there are and just be really

happy where they're at so thanks for kind of being so open and sharing your story and before I let you go where can people find you on social and obviously you got your your podcast tequila talk that people should definitely check out yes and uh daisy's daisy fuentes marks on twitter and Check out. Yes. And Daisy Fuentes, Marks on Twitter. And Instagram. And Instagram. And Facebook. And you can find me at MichaelBolton.com. Stop it.

Oh, jeez. Oh, God. This was really fun for us too in fact when we as soon as we had to take our little uh technical technological break uh we both were like wow like this was really fun yeah this is really fun i feel like when this is all over we should all do this in the same room with a tequila guys i really appreciate it uh thanks again so much um and we all hope to to have relationships like you guys and i really i really mean that you guys um i think gold um to be able to be yourself and have a ton of fun doing it is i think what everyone wants and just kind of thank you you know what and i will not to belabor it but i think it's

also important um daisy and i i don't think that 48 hours go by where we don't acknowledge that to each other where we don't we'll be walking on the beach or we'll be in the car or we'll be just sitting talking and one of us will acknowledge to the other how lucky we feel to have this relationship in our lives don't take it for granted i uh it's it's a fun feeling you know it's fun to feel that and um like want to say it right you know sometimes you're in relationships and you're just like i feel like i'm supposed to compliment them or something no as opposed to like you feel it you're just like i am just yeah really fucking thrilled to be here with you uh it's a fun feeling so congrats to you both on being able to find it.

Thank you. This was fun. Yeah. Thank you, guys. It was fun. Thank you. Thanks, guys, for listening. Don't forget to send your questions

to asknickatcastme.com. That's what I want. When you guys come back, I hope to come on your podcast, but when we come back on mine, you'll have to come on our Ask Nick where we get callers and give relationship advice. Yeah.

Great. Yeah, I really want wanna hear both of yours perspectives on that and I think that'd be a ton of fun. I would love that. So maybe we'll do, you should come on ours and we'll do an ask Daisy, Nick and Dick. Great. I'm sold.

All right guys, thank you so much. Thanks so much thanks you guys be safe all right take care all right bye-bye see ya