The Viall Files - E199 The Bachelorette Recap With Fortune Feimster

Episode Date: November 18, 2020

We are joined by the hilarious Fortune Feimster for todays Bachelorette Recap. It is Tayshia’s first rose ceremony, second round of group dates and we are getting to know the guys a lot more. Fortune’s unique comedic perspective really fills this episode with laughter and she and Nick address all the drama you want to hear about from this episode, Noah jumping that fence, Ed vs. Chasen, and are the guys just here for those Instagram followers.  “I know neither of us will be picked but we will be roommates in Venice” Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes.  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Theragun: http://www.theragun.com/viall go right now and get your Gen 4 Theragun today. Dipsea: http://www.dipseastories.com/viall for a 30 day free trial.  Liquid IV: http://www.liquidiv.com use code VIALL for 25% off. Bombas: http://www.bombas.com/viall for 20%off. Mejuri: http://www.mejuri.com/viall for 10% off your order. Episode Socials:  @viallfiles @nickviall @fortunefeimster See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's right, because our guest helping us break down all things Bachelor is the hilarious and wonderfully charming Fortune Feimster. We got some hot takes. You're so bad. So stay tuned for Fortune in our intro. Maybe we should have our guests do our intro. We should.

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Other than that, up next, Fortune Feimster. She's like, that's me. And we're back. $1.99. Fortune. Nick. she's like that's me and we're back 199 fortune nick how are you i'm great welcome back it's good to see you good to see you uh for those of you who didn't listen to the fortune episode a while back just press pause and go ahead and check that out because that was that was amazing was so fun. But Fortune also is a big Bachelor fan.

I sure am. And so I've been waiting to have her back to just recap an episode. And here you are. And also, I just want to say congratulations on recently getting married. Thank you. Yeah, we, out of nowhere, we planned in like two weeks. We were like, let's just do it. That's great.

What are we waiting on? We were going to have like a big thing this summer, but that wasn't going to happen. Yeah. Yeah, because there's like a pandemic. There's like a pandemic happening, but I mean, that doesn't stop some people. Some people are like having 100-person weddings.

Yeah, they are. We had like five friends. And then funerals. Yeah. Oh, it's it's dark that is dark but also there's literally but also there is a pandemic that that has happened that has happened yeah so we just had five of our best friends and we zoomed our parents oh well congratulations and you have a new show that i think recently was just announced i am doing a netflix show with david spade and london hughes uh we're gonna be talking about like netflix movies and tv shows it's called after party so awesome it'll be out in january

if you guys like want to guest on that yeah man hit up. All right. Tell David to come recap The Bachelor with us. Oh, I will. He keeps saying he's going to do it. I'm sure he will. We'll see. All right. Maybe the finale. I'm seeing him tomorrow.

Tell him I said hi. Tell him he's got to do it. How are you feeling about this season so far? I'm feeling better now. You are? I'm feeling better now. I was not like- Did you have Claire fatigue?

I was done after like episode two. I was like, she wants Dale. What are we all doing here? I felt like the guys felt. They were all like, what are we doing here? I mean, she knew that she wanted him probably before she even got there. And I think that was it. And Claire doesn't seem to waver

nope she has a when she's when she's feeling it she yeah and she lets it be known i love i did i was looking forward to her that i love the first episode i was like she's gonna be good because there's a little bat shit crazy there and i can't wait to see her just speak her mind yeah and then by episode two i was like oh she's a smitten kitten and this is boring well here we have we have taisha we are episode full episode two of taisha i mean she she yeah she popped in at the end of three episodes ago. She's smooching a lot. She's smooching a lot. It feels like we're finally watching The Bachelorette.

Because it really didn't feel like The Bachelorette. I didn't know what it was. Yeah, it felt like you were watching just someone's relationship story. And no one's relationship is that interesting. We don't want to see just two people falling in love we want to see 25 people fighting over fighting to the death and uh and and eventually boinking three of them they delivered and i gotta say i i watched this eventually eventually just blinking sometimes four i love boinking is Eventually, just boinking. Sometimes four. Boinking is a great word.

Boinking. Boinking. And then getting proposed to after a month. Yeah. How long is the process? Well, it's traditionally nine weeks. I believe it's been shortened down to like six or seven because they don't have to travel now.

Oh, right, right. Man, nine weeks. That's so crazy. Where you're just like. What are you trying to tell me? Listen, I, right. Man, nine weeks. That's so crazy. Where you're just like. What are you trying to tell me? Listen, I know it. I feel judgment on the other side. No, it's nuts.

I mean, you would know better than I, having done many franchises. It's nuts. But it's a bubble. It's a bubble. So I imagine when you're in a bubble, you can fall in love faster. Yeah, I mean, everyone can relate a bubble you can fall in love faster yeah i mean everyone can relate the idea of falling in love sure shortly and the engagement part you're just like fuck it sure maybe it'll work out yeah you're like uh you're at the very least we'll be on the cover

of people magazine at the very at the very least and we'll get a nice set of pans. Pans. For engagement presents. Well, and you get a ring from Neil. That's true. But don't you have to give it back if it doesn't work out? You do. Do you have to give it back? You do, yeah.

I do have the, I still have the box. Oh, really? It's like a souvenir that I've decided to keep. Yeah? Yeah. Why not? Vanessa had to give it back. Oh, shit.

If you have, I believe it's two years. You have to stay together for two years. In order to keep the yeah vanessa had to give it back you have to if you have uh i believe it's two years you have to stay together for two years in order to keep the ring yeah was there any at any point fuck that at any point was vanessa like but can we just make it to two years so i can keep the ring no she was like i'll just take the ring i would have bought her out at that point oh really you know what whatever what neil hummus is its cost oh man oh we were we were ready to say you were ready yeah yeah mutual mutual was it the french canadian thing no oh okay to each their own not at all i that was the least of our problems I love Montreal but I don't understand I don't understand

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that last episode where they went on like the first group date and then the single date with Brendan. Well, we have to make sure we say his name right.

Oh, first of all, straight up, before we start, this is, sorry Noah. No. Chrissy fucked up.

And in the note, she called Noah Peter? Yes. It's fine. It's not a big deal. Wait, which one's Noah? I love it. I can't wait to get all the hate mail. Oh, yeah, Noah.

This is an honest mistake. Honest mistake. Did Noah write you? Well, because... No. No. We do it in advance, so... And also, like, who gives who gives we don't for a million

dollars you couldn't name all these guys yeah for sure but anyway we called noah we called noah peter you only really know uh once they get down to like six yeah and uh wait is peter already gone peter peter got x this this time at the rose ceremony. We didn't know much about it. And Noah shaved his stache. He didn't write a shot. Noah does look better without the stache. So my bad, Noah. Anyway, so now we're on a group date. Which one was it?

It's the second group date. What were they doing? Oh, this is the one with Jared and Ashley. Oh, yeah. Okay. The grown-ass man. The grown-ass man. I hate that phrase.

I feel like were they not taking themselves seriously? But the grown-ass man is such a... I'm a grown-ass man. When guys call themselves grown-ass men, I immediately don't like them. Well, it didn't be a theme the whole episode. But also those three challenges that they had to do, it doesn't really determine if they're grown-ass men.

You're like, show me your credit score. Yeah. Then we'll determine if you're a grown-ass man. What else would be in Fortune's grown-ass man competition? Can you check the oil? Okay. I don't know. What else do you men do?

I haven't been around many. Do you have enough hand around many do you have i bought curtains the other day so uh yeah so it's a grown-ass man competition jared and ashley show up and help facilitate this date uh jared looking better than ever with his long locks mission impossible to tom cruise haircut yeah i mean nice yeah nice nice nice nice um bennett was a real dummy i gotta say harvard took the loss this harvard very much took the loss i mean basic math basic math they even were able to do do the math like they were given a pen to write it out. The only thing I... Harvard took the loss because the only thing I've learned from Bennett tonight

is that Harvard doesn't teach accountability. They do teach you how to make excuses for yourself. Yes. And that's about it. And apparently you can get a degree without knowing common sense. And he works like... It says he works like with Wall Street. I mean, isn't that all numbers?

I'm pretty sure you don't have to be. So much math involved. So much math. I don't know. It's just a lot of bullshitting. I don't know. I think he blamed Ashley for the way she asked the question. He's like, I really needed you to rephrase that question.

It was phrased poorly huh yeah how else would it was a it was a tough showing for bennett i don't i've liked bennett up into this point he shouldn't have won he shouldn't have won at all what do you mean he shouldn't have won he won just because he put on a robe and gave her beignets in bed? How long have you been watching the show? I mean, a long time. I don't want to give away my age. But you know that he won because it would just piss off

everyone else. I know. He won because he shouldn't win. Yeah. Why do they like to toy with us like that? Gosh, I just want to see the good guys win. Yeah. Why do they like to toy with us like that? Gosh, I just want to see the good guys win. Yeah. But then he like went for it by slamming that kiss on her in front of everybody. I know.

But she was like, okay. She was, but first she pulled away and then she went for it. She was smooching so much during this episode. She was, and that's fine. Yeah. Do you have a problem with the smooching? No, I don't. But, you know, it is a little jarring at first and then you're like well it's part of the

process i clutched my pearls for a minute and then i was okay did you i forgot did you do you did a lot of smooching yeah i didn't you did more than a lot of well here's the thing in fairness to whoever the lead is it's like you you you saw it sucks because you don't want to because everyone's trying to kiss you and you don't want to kiss everybody not everyone no yeah i've never had that problem there's not there weren't a lot of people coming at me at one time um so yeah bennett bennett's kind of a dick this whole episode yeah um yeah harvard harvard took a big loss what what else uh ed ed got stuck with the baby and they really milked that for uh the whole

episode i have a lot to say about it i I really don't care. He was having a weird episode. Last week, I talked about how, be careful how you talk about people as humans versus characters on a TV show. Okay. But I hate Ed as a human being. Yeah. Wow.

I feel like I've watched it enough and I've been in that world to know that he just kind of sucks. He's shit stirring a lot. He's just, he is playing into his own insecurities and he just sucks. Well, he's definitely intimidated by Chasen. Ed has own, Ed's whole life, he has lost out on guys to Chasen ed has own ed's whole life he has lost out on guys to chase like he is his whole life he has lost girls he's liked girls and they've always dated chasen yeah for sure his whole life because he's like short and beefy he that and he wouldn't wrestle him well that's i know i'm getting ahead of myself when that happened but but i just thought because at first i was like okay he has some

problems with uh chasen whatever but then he wouldn't let it go and then it felt like okay now you're just now it's just dumb well this episode made me appreciate the value of a great character. And this episode reminded me who the real star was of Hannah Brown season. Who? I forgot. It wasn't Hannah Brown. It wasn't Tyler. Luke? It was Luke.

He was the real star. That's true. Because when you have a real villain, like a real villain, where he's kind of a shitty guy and he's and when your lead yeah really likes that person and they're invested it you can't beat that that's the perfect storm in that world right and it's and and everything happens so organically because they're just truly assholes and then you have everyone else looking better for just not being the total asshole. And like, it's just made you appreciate just how much they,

they don't really have that yet. And now granted this season has been, you know, you had the Claire and Dale thing and that was its own weird thing. And now we've moved on. So like, we're only really in week two of Tasha's season. Right.

So now it's like, it's just like this weird thing that we're, we're in the middle of a season because it just, we are, but we're only in the second week. We have so many of these guys we have to get to know and it's like they're trying to play catch up

while creating drama and it felt, the drama in general this episode felt a bit forced and engineered by the environment, right? Because it just, yeah. It was because it was all petty. None of it really made sense.

Right. It was like, Ed would tell on Jason and then he came back and he goes, by the way, Jason, I just told Tasha, you suck. And you're like,

okay. And I, Jason, I can't. You don't like Jason? I don't like Jason. Why? Huh?

What did Jason ever do wrong? He's a smoke show. It's the smoke show thing threw me completely off. But they were playing it a lot. It was too much. When you say, if he hadn't said, if he would have just been like, she's a smoke show, but he said, I came up with a new term for her, and my new term is smoke show. It was so douchey.

He does look like a guy who's there for like instagram followers i got oh okay first of all i'm over that listen if if you're on the show and you have an active social media account you're on the show for followers so like shut the fuck up you know short of you not having any social media or it's on private because you want nothing to do with it. You are there for the followers. And I'm shocked that you were buying into this. I just didn't like it. There's only one person on this whole episode.

I really enjoyed this episode. Oh. One guy. One guy. It's probably Ben. It's Ben. It's not. Oh, no, because he got needy at the end.

Well, let's focus on Chase for a second. Okay. I'm very defensive of Chase in this episode. I don't know if he's like the greatest guy ever. And I'm sure he's definitely capable of

saying and doing douchey things. No doubt. Yeah. But he's just a guy. And he seems like a nice enough guy. What did he do wrong?

He was just douchey. He said smoke show. Smoke. And you got suckered in by the music. She is a smoke show. I just thought if you're going to say I changed the attitude and I decided I'm now going to

call her a smoke show. I can't. God. I can't. You're such a sucker. I'm not a sucker. I'm just saying like, that's just douchey. No, but think.

If one of your guy friends stood in front of you and was like, dude, yesterday I thought she was hot but today i got a new term for her and the new term is smoke show you would be like you sound like an idiot sure but every guy talks that way all the time and i'm just saying well then characterizing them and deciding you don't like him as a human being because of something and i've known guys that you like and they're more than capable of saying far worse things and i find it astonishing that you're so drilling in hard to smoke show that is such a fair statement i can't even argue that point this is like i'm blown away yeah but i digress he's a bad human being i'm just saying

it was douchey and it made me not like him. But Ed was saying, Ed was basing his whole character on the fact that he called two chicks a smoke show. Oh, my God. And I'm like, that's insane. Yeah. So you have a girl. She's hot. She's hot. But, oh, my God.

I'm a criminal. Yeah. Like, we all have go-to moves and sayings and whatever. And it's just like, it seems so petty. And I agree with you. And it was just like, also, petty and i i agree with with you and it was just like also think about all the times on this show where you've had these like micro aggressions from men kind of you know saying and doing things and like like this that that uh interaction or

confrontation between chasen and ed i i he he barely got heated up i know and then he ended up like apologizing for it and i'm thinking you know what good chasen got called out by tation for it and you know what he did he was like you know what i'm just gonna try to do the right thing and apologize for something he barely even did and to me it's just like when have you ever seen that on the on the show i felt he handled like a champ yeah they said he was being aggressive and i was like i didn't think he was that aggressive. He was just like, hey man, stop talking about me. He didn't threaten him.

No. He was just like, please don't do that. And he was like, yeah, he's a bigger guy and he definitely was mad and it got all used against him. Bullshit. And I felt like the way he didn't make excuses, he didn't, he's like all right tasha

you're right yeah he apologized for something how many guys like look you think about the luke parkers from last season oh he would have lost his mind and he would have gaslit you know like why do you feel this way you know he was like you're right i'm sorry and he went up to ed and ed who's just been like a punk the whole episode, tried to squash it. And Ed was just even more of a punk. Yeah. And he tried to the next day to be like, hey, can we just call a truce? And he was like, Ed wouldn't take it.

Yeah. For someone who's been the victim of manufactured drama on that show, I was very much defending the nonsense that was manufactured drama. It was so manufactured and exhausting, the whole thing. That Chase was a victim of. And I'm here to say, Chasen, whatever his fucking name is. Chasen.

His name is doing him no justice in terms of the douche meter. It should just be Chase. If a guy's ever looked like his name, Chasen. chasing looks like he looks like a surfer yeah yeah i don't know um what else are we missing i'm glad that you're there for him i'm there for chasing yeah yeah i'm curious how you know twitter will respond um or i don't know i'm curious if people will have... Because people...

Up until now, Chasen's been kind of a likable, good-looking guy. The ladies will like him. I think the ladies will still like him. I mean, if you're pitting Ed versus Chasen, I'm going to go Chasen all day. When Bennett and Ed were laughing hysterically

about how the noun adjectives... A really weird laugh, too. They were like... That was so cringy bennett and ed have been losing out to women from by guys like chase in their whole lives i mean like bennett is bennett's a great looking guy he looks the part but he clearly is has no game no game he even tried to steal taja at the top he was like can i take you for a minute and he's still in his robe and she's like uh can i say hi to everybody first yeah and it doesn't go with them i'm confident saying that bennett's greatest weakness in life when it comes to dating is

that he is not self-aware how right uh how awkward he is yes i would agree yeah but didn't ivan get the did i even get the rose on that one no oh no he didn't blindfold he got blindfolded uh he did the blindfold with the strawberries that's what i even did i haven't another strong showing but i've been a big ivan fan i like ivan as well to me the uh the the ben uh the i'm sorry the ed chasen fight and the group date was all about making Ben look good yeah because you had like the silly little fight between Ed and Chasen and then you had

like the Ben who I right now Ben's my front runner but he I really liked him too but then he got a little needy at the end he did at the end but in the beginning it was like a ITM and God only knows when who he said this but it was in reference to like suggesting that chasen was being a little

aggressive and he's like i don't need to handle it that way and he said it in a very likable way and it's like it was that everyone them letting you know that we're supposed to like ben right right i still i still think she's got the biggest eyes for, is it Spencer? Brendan. Wait, I don't want to. Spencer had a strong showing last week. Last week. I still think she's got eyes for him.

Yeah. We didn't hear from him as much this episode. And that's fine. That'll happen. Yeah. You know, he. Brendan. I think she likes the good looking preppy voice.

Yeah, she does. My favorite part of Taysha tonight was when she recognized that she is bougie. I like that. This is who I am. She's bougie. Ivan did get that group date rose, by the way. Oh, really? Ivan did? Ivan did.

Good for Ivan. Nice job, Ivan. Good job, Ivan. But my favorite part. Have you ever been fed strawberries, though, real quick? Gross. I know we're coming around to your favorite part. No. Have you been fed strawberries? That doesn't seem sexy to me. Me either. It's not. I'm like, you're gonna feed me fruit? I mean,

don't even get me started on fruit. That's supposed to be sexy? I mean, let's just start with a cheesecake first. A cheesecake? A strawberry. Do you find being fed anything sexy? Not really. But definitely not fruit. Here, eat this.

Remember that Charlie Sheen movie? And you can't see it. What's that Charlie Sheen movie when he like, like, hot shot, when he like cooks the bacon on her and the eggs? Oh, yeah. That's what's like gross. Anyway, what is your favorite part? No, I'm saying my favorite part was the whole thing was narrated by Joe.

And Joe is my favorite person on this episode. And anything that comes out of Joe's mouth. Which one's Joe? Joe, the Asian guy. Oh, Joe is so funny. Great showing. He was my favorite part of this entire episode. Joe was fantastic this episode.

He was a big part of the wrestling. His humor really came out with the wrestling. His humor is so funny. And you know what? We haven't had a lot of Asian representation on the show. And I hope Joe goes really far because he seems like a real delight. The self-awareness. He is a delight.

He is very funny. The self-deprecating humor. Great timing. Yeah. Yeah. Good looking guy. And he's an anesthesiologist come on is he yeah money for days real real real jobs on this show he's a cat it turns out and then ed the health healthcare salesman bennett just dropped i mean not that i mean i still hate ed

that apparently he had a perfect score in his ACT. We got some real brainiacs. Yeah. And his math. Yeah. Well, Bennett doesn't know how to do math, but Ed might still be able to. They said one of them was a college basketball player. That's Brandon. Brandon. Brandon. Let me see.

Brandon. I'm a big Brandon fan. That was Joe. Joe was saying that. He was like, I'm sitting here wrestling against NFL players, collegiate basketball players. They showed Brandon. I mean, he looks like he could be a basketball player. Yeah, like a point guard, maybe.

You know, lean point guard. He looks like he has some hops. That's right. That's right. Some hops. What does that mean? He kind of surprised me this episode, Brandon. How so?

Because they had the, I never really thought much about him. He just seemed kind of scrawny. And then he had the one-on-one with Tayshia. Yeah. And they really connected. Do you need great jewelry in your life? I know I do. Well, Majoree makes fine jewelry for everybody.

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He's a beefcake. Speaking of beefcakes or not, Blake really disappeared this episode. Blake. Yeah, he did. Yeah, Blake might be done. To come on this strong and be so much part of the storyline, which was more focused on Claire, and to be essentially irrelevant tells me that he could easily be gone next week. Yeah.

He might have a reoccurrence. I thought he might get gone this week. Well, we had to get rid of two guys we've literally never seen before. Yeah. And Peter. It was two new guys, and then it was two new guys.

It was two new guys and... it was two new guys. It wasn't it. It was two new guys and. We got rid of Peter and. Yeah. Both of those. Those were two guys that we. Two new guys. You never heard a thing from. Who else?

Jay. And Jay. And Jay. Got rid of them. Oh, Jay. Jay. Jay had to go because he looks too much like Zach. And that was confusing.

It was like. For everybody. For everyone. So she was like, oh, Jay. Jay had to go because he looks too much like Zach. And that was confusing. It was like, you can't for everyone. So she was like, oh, no. What if I pick the wrong one? It's the same. Oh, my gosh. Did you see the meme about Jordan online? Jordan from Jordan? Jordan C.

With the glasses. With the glasses. This guy. No. They had a picture of Shamar Moore. Is that how you say his name? It said Shamar Moore and Shamar Less. Because he looks just like him.

But the scrawny version. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. Jordan can wrestle, though. Jordan. He can. Yeah. Who did he wrestle?

It's on here. Those guys are really... So did we go right... So, right. Wait, but hold on. But after the Ashley and Jared date, then we had... The rose ceremony. The rose ceremony.

Those guys went home. And then we had another group date? And then we had a group date because it started like a new week, right? So then we went back to like another group date. There were no one-on-ones this episode. No, the one-on-one and the second group date will be again next week. So we kind of started a new week right so then we went back to like another there were no one-on-ones this episode no the one-on-one and the second group date will be again next week so we kind of started a new week yeah they're really fucking with us oh really running slow so tasia had her one-on-one and first group date last week then this week it was the second group date and her

rose ceremony and now thank you wait that the brendan one-on-one wasn't this week that was last that was last week oh she just had like a one-on-one wasn't this week that was last that was last week oh she just had like a one-on-one interaction with him this week gotcha yeah because there's the there's the conversation maybe i watched both episodes yesterday i don't know brendan and jordan wrestled to answer your question thank you so after so that so the roast ceremony then we go into the wrestling yeah date which great yeah more oil them down baby oil them down i thought it was great little eye candy for the ladies it just it really put the icing on the cake for how much i hated well when he uh was like uh chris uh can i speak to you oh and he it was great because he was clearly i mean

listen props to the cameraman because they i mean granted they have their cameras on everyone so they're always whatever facial expressions we're getting so ed was clearly he knew everyone knew this is going to go down and yeah ed being the scrawny little punk that he is, did not expect that the very next day after just poking holes, poking holes in Jason, that he would have to wrestle Jason. And as far as athletic competitions that they've done in the show, there's two things that you don't want to have to do if you're trying to pick a fight with someone that you don't want to box and you don't want to wrestle to do if you're if you're trying to pick a fight with someone that uh you's physically down you don't want to box and you don't want to wrestle right and most of the time you play

basketball or volleyball or whatever and ed shitting his pants yeah what a punk to just wrestle man he's such a punk my shoulders dislocate oh they showed him working out that morning before before did you do the facial expressions of ed he was like he's like i gotta say i was not expecting spencer to call out ed for having uh glam muscles glam muscles because i i low-key accused spencer last week of having clam muscles so does that mean like you're all show but you don't know like you're not actually strong yeah you don't really have any core strength like you do a lot of arm curls you don't squat you don't work again like

you don't you do workouts just to it's aesthetically pleasing okay but you're not doing like pushing power cleans and like power cleans and snatches. He's just lifting the weights and doing that stuff. Your body is strong. Yeah. And you do a lot of forearm exercises and things like that. He's just building his neck up. Yeah.

That's all. So Spencer accused Ed of having glam muscles, which kudos to Spencer for at least, maybe it's because he's been accused of it himself. He just paid it forward. But you know what? Spencer held his own. He wrestled Easy.

And that was a, they drawed. And so, you know, Spencer, I was impressed. I thought Easy would smoke him. No, no, Easy went versus Joe. Oh, yeah. Was it? No, was it? Spencer was Ben and Easy was Joe.

Spencer was Ben? Spencer didn't wrestle, I don't think, did he? Yeah, Spencer and Ben. Oh, he did? Spencer and Ben. Yeah, because Ben got his feet cut afterwards.

Oh, right. That was a draw. Spencer and Ben were drawn. Easy and Joe wrestled and that was hilarious. Oh, that's right. That's when Joe was like, oh, no.

Well, I mean, and Joe's a, Ben's a big guy and Ben's like a former Marine Joe was like, oh, no. Well, I mean, Ben's a big guy. And Ben's like a former Marine or Army guy. Yeah. Joe was like, when he was intimidating talking, he was like, yeah, man, you're like a really nice guy. Yeah, that was fun.

Either way, I was impressed because I thought Joe was going to smoke Spencer because I thought Joe was like a guy who's like- Wait, Joe didn't go Spencer. Ben. What the fuck? Ben. See? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? go with Spencer. What the fuck? Ben. See? Who cares?

Ben and Spencer. Ben. I thought Ben was going to smoke Spencer. And Spencer held his own. Yeah. It was true. There you go. But Ben didn't cut his feet.

He cut his foot. I would have just like stopped, dropped, and rolled and just been like, nobody touch me. I would have pulled an Ed. I would have like limped. Yeah, but you wouldn't have been an instigator all day. True. Only to back out. That's true.

Yeah. What did you think of Noah hopping the fence? I mean, it clearly worked out for him. She was taken back by it. Did you, as a viewer, take exception with his assertiveness? I got why the guys were upset with him because he basically inserted himself into their date uh but he he did need to wrestle somebody yeah and uh i guess he didn't even noah didn't even give the guys a chance to have someone wrestle twice i assumed

that was gonna happen you know the guy should be mad at who ed that's true they weren't mad at ed why aren't you mad at ed ed pussed out and had to wrestle ben had to no i had to come in they should be like hey dude if you would have just stepped up we wouldn't have this guy jumping the fence and being one more guy into our group date ed could have used that imagine if his shoulder was dislocated she would have gone to his aid yeah they would have had extra time together rented an ambulance together it's a miss huge miss on ed's part that sucks but noah didn't even he didn't even hesitate they go who wants to wrestle him noah jumped over the fence it was that was pretty uh slick move yeah i in general i thought it was a really poor showing by the og crew okay because they definitely it they seemed mean girlish clicky they seemed like a

bunch of guys in high school right you know like this is how we do things here at you know team playa del whatever they're you know like this is how we hang you know like you guys you guys are new to this school don't be like jumping fences like it's a the bachelorette yeah it's a competition guys you know and like the when when guys use words like oh that's so disrespectful it's not he's not being a gentleman yeah what the fuck i fucking hate that but smoke show is fine what smoke show yeah it is it's totally fine because you're just complimenting someone so it's basically saying they're hot but you're not getting all righteous you didn't go you don't join a reality tv show where you willingly date one person with 30 other guys and then become righteous and talk about manners and being gentlemanly and call people out just because you're too chicken shit to step up and do your part.

Well, the houses do have a tendency to sometimes like some of the guys get so focused on the relationships between the guys that they totally don't even think about the girl they're like trying to be a good totally bro that was huge on andy's season when i was on and you're and i and i in some ways i guess i empathize with the guys because for two weeks that's all they had because claire was all about dale and so they just had each other and so they clearly bonded with each other and and but i have i have no sympathy for that just because i was on the other side you were always the guy that was like i'm here for the girl well yeah i mean on andy's season it was very bro-y and then on caitlyn's season i show up late and obviously like i was you know i guess more similar to the spencer and right but it was like you want to be mad at me fine but don't call me out for not

being a gentleman yeah because like what i thought what noah did was pretty cool i mean yeah i thought it was hot i mean like yeah yeah because at the end of the day the whole thing is you're trying to vie for this person's affection yeah why wouldn't noah every other guy is probably kicking the you know they're just mad at themselves because they didn't step up yeah anyone could have been like i'll wrestle yeah chasen but the 25 year old had to jump half chasen size but like i got this yeah it's like good in his jeans in his jeans a little top gun action you know you always love a good physical scene in jeans oh my gosh yeah that was totally top gun total top gun goose and maverick yeah volleyball come on now um smoke shows so we go

was that were you mad about Smoke Show? I was not. I use the word Smoke Show many times in my life. But do you sit there and say, I'm about to change my word and my new word is going to be. That's the part that was annoying. I'm not saying he looked great. I don't remember that part. I barely remember that. That's a thing. I believe you.

Yeah. Oh, my God. It was so annoying. I watched it like three times because I was like, did he really say that you know what i think it was i think you were just projecting because he reminds me of somebody yeah digging deep that's also a fair statement i can't even argue with him um yeah yeah i'm moving now though so it's fine so yeah so then we yeah we go into the cocktail party of uh and noah gets the rose yeah all the guys are complaining ben i i feel bet ben's not ben got screwed yeah i did feel bad that he didn't get time with her. She was like, you should have found me. Ben told too many people.

It was his fault. Yeah, Ben told too many people he was going to wait and go last. And they were like, no, we're just going to end the night. Yeah. They probably did that on purpose, as you say, the manufactured stuff. He told too many people. Too many producers. He told too many people.

Man, the show. It's like they make a lot of stuff up. I mean, he did a whole interview about it. plan why he planned it so of course everybody he's gonna have a drink a cocktail with her and i don't even remember the plan it sounded boring to me ben's plan yeah it sounded boring i was like just go talk to her drink i'm gonna be the last one in her mind i mean if that rose. I mean, if you can't tell, Ben is Tayshia's Dale from Ben's perspective. Ben's, he's in. Yeah, he's in.

But I do think Tayshia really likes Ben. Do those one-on-ones last a lot longer than the shows? The most of the whole day, yeah. But I mean, so like when the- I mean the cocktail party one-on-ones no like the from the group date like that night when they were uh can i is it like it's not like two minutes right it's like 30 or something i mean depends yeah right it might be uh it could be 20 minutes it could be two minutes right okay yeah we know well we don't know because all the

editing guys and sometimes when it's 20 minutes you know that's when you hear then sometimes they'll let you know right but they've been gone forever you know right and then so and so like grabs them and talks them for 30 seconds and then come and then the guy who talked for the person for 20 minutes comes back and be like can i get more time yeah it's like speed dating and then everyone everyone gets mad uh taisha had noah shave his mustache that was a good call and then noah had to let taisha know that he did yeah or he was going to no she asked yeah so he finds the clippers and then he interrupted another guy i did feel bad he interrupted i forgot who it was oh i don't get me wrong i feel bad for the guys not getting time yeah how they handle it and then

going back like it's always the same thing you go back you whine to your friends yeah and get all your friends to like feel bad for you and and say how like everyone's being mean and it's not respectful and i'm like all right you could have just done that that's true um good point nick i got zero sympathy for those whiny people who whine to their friends i know it really it really seemed like a very high school yeah theme tonight i would never be good at the show because i would be the person that's like um excuse me if i don't know if you have like uh two minutes at some point tonight uh let me know i'd be great to chat with you okay thanks i would not then if someone interrupted you i'd be like sure sure sure yep, sure. Yep, yep. The floor is yours.

I would not be good at this. You have to be more aggressive in these situations. I think the nice guys, like the meek guys, this is a better word, tend to fall by the wayside. Meek, yeah, meek guys will definitely fall by the wayside. Meek guys will definitely fall by the wayside. But yeah, you don't have to be mean. I feel like Noah's a pretty nice guy. Yeah, I like Noah.

I was fine with his actions. Spencer gives me a little more red flags from last episode. But who knows? He definitely came in guns a blazing. He came in. Yeah. I'll reserve the right for future judgment on spencer i came at him a little hard last week seemed fine kind of a no-show this episode other than some wrestling do you have some favorites

that you're rooting for now that we've gotten to know some of these guys let's see i definitely I definitely like Joe a lot. I love Joe. He's such a fun guy. I like Brendan as well. And I like Easy. I want to see her going on one-on-one with Easy. Yeah. I don't think Easy. I think if Easy gets a one-on-one, he goes home on the one-on-one. Oh, no.

Yeah. I just don't want to sit around waiting for a Chase and Ed two-on-one. Oh, no. Yeah. I just don't want to sit around waiting for a Chase and Ed 2-1-1. Oh, I know. Chrissy. Which is inevitable. That's always inevitable. Inevitable.

That's so, so predictable. Let's take the two people that hate each other. It is, but you know what? I'm fine with that. So would you rather watch a Chase and an Ed 2-1-1, or... I'd rather like a Spencer and a Noah 2-on-1. Spencer and Noah?

I mean, okay. Seems like a fair fight. So next episode, they open it up. Spencer and Noah 2-on-1. We barely know anything about them that she likes them both and we want to immediately make her decide between the two? Yeah.

I would love that. But where's the drama? What's the compelling story there? What would you love about that? I don't know. I just think they're fairly matched. Everyone thinks that they're kind of doozy.

I want an even fight. I don't want this like we're going to do the two-on-one with Jason and Ed. It's predictable. Here it comes. Jason wins because like she's there's something about him. And Ed looks like is going to go home.

That's just how it's going to be. Like I get. Absolutely how it would happen. How it would happen. And I would just like something. And they hand him that baby. At least with two people I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen.

And that is more exciting. Yeah, but it's also boring. Yeah, we don't want boring. I mean, they're, they'll be well behaved for the most part, or they'll like be like, all right,

I guess I got to compete with you because we're on this date. And then, but there will be no real like, Hey, it's like, yeah, but they're both have like a little bit of douche in them. So I think maybe I get it.

It's only interesting if they are, they love each other or hate each other. Yeah. If they're like two best friends, like two people who are like, Hey man love you man they bro out yeah they're like no matter what happens we're gonna be best friends like we'll be best friends neither of us are gonna get picked in the end but we'll be roommates in venice then it's interesting In Nick's old apartment But yeah

I would be shocked If that doesn't happen And it probably will happen soon Because there's no way She's into Ed Yeah no way No way No way

I don't even think She's kissed him I don't think so I mean She can't even sit On the couch close to him I don't know I don't know if any guy I mean like a guy obviously in a baby is a nice combination.

It's an attractive look. But like holding a fake baby might look stupid on any guy, but it looks real dumb on that. Yeah. He's got that like sleepy face a little bit. Like the bedroom eyes. Like this? Yeah, like the bedroom eyes. He just has that punk face of like, he's a punk he's got a punk

he's listening right now i don't care i hate him oh the doubling down doubling down right there wrong person i just don't like i mean it's not it's not editing right it's a guy who is really insecure and chose to like go after. He's just a mean girl. He decided he's a 36-year-old guy. He started to act like a 14-year-old. Well, by the end of the episode, he decided to change from chasing, and then he started going after Noah, right? Yeah, he's just a punk.

He just wanted to find somebody else to make fun of. He has no shot, and he decided to just be a punk. He's just a punk. And I think he even said he was going to call Noah out the next day. He was like, tomorrow, my plan is to call Noah out Get ready y'all He thinks he looks good doing it As Bennett laughs in the corner About SAT scores

I was really disappointed in Bennett this episode I liked Bennett up until this episode Yeah he was being a little snobby he's like a poor man's pierce brosnan with a lot of shoes well here's the thing i think up until this point i thought bennett was in on the joke like i thought he was pretty self-aware right of this character he was playing but now i'm not so sure yeah now i don't know if he realized he is the joke right and rather being in on the joke yeah and up until this point i thought he was in on the joke and now with the whole way he acted this episode i was like oh maybe you are serious right yeah

he definitely acted that way hmm you guys i don't know who else do you like um what do you think about ben i like ivan um oh i haven't i love ivan ivan was really cool and he seems really into tatia uh ben ben which one's ben ben is the one who's in love i like ben he's being a little thirsty he got a little i need him to simmer down yeah you know i don't like when he got he was part of that group of he's like the nice righteous yeah he'll be the one he'll be the one in like two episodes that's like i don't think that that guy's here for the right reason you know there's always like six of those yeah they were like six of them in this episode.

Yeah. They're not here for the right reason. I mean, come on. Yeah. Everyone, you know, who doesn't have some ulterior motives when you're signing up on a TV show? I think that's why I hated that part of this episode. Yeah. Because this is a world where like all you have to do is throw out an accusation.

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if there's anything behind it you just have to get someone on the defensive yeah and then you're like well yeah i mean i'm you're like i'm on a tv show i want to find love but also if i get 30 000 new instagram followers in the process great yeah you know like that's just part of the thing and i'm fine with that i just i really hate it when people use that on other people yeah they're there for the same damn thing exactly like what's it like ed's motives are different than chasen's none doubtful doubtful i would argue that chasen is more serious yeah serious about Claire and Tasha because he actually has a shot. Right. And he's like, I don't know.

I could get to know Claire. I could get to know Tasha. And I barely know any of them. And they're both beautiful women. And we'll see where it goes. Ed knows he doesn't have a shot. Right. And he's deciding to be a punk instead of someone who's just like, hey, listen, I'm out of my league here.

A punk instead of someone who's just like, hey, listen, I'm out of my league here. I did enjoy the guys' attempt to sound brokenhearted over Claire. I'm like, was it last week? They were like, I don't know if I can get over Claire. I'm like, you were around her for two weeks. What, Jason? And she paid no attention to y'all. Did you buy Jason? No.

The one that left? Yeah. No. Why do you think he left? I don't think he was into Tayshia. Okay. I don't think that he fell in love head over heels with Claire in, what, a week and a half? How long was she with him?

I was shocked when he just kept repeating that he was in love with Claire. Yeah, I was like, there's no way. And all those guys acted heartbroken, which I'm sure she's a lovely gal, but it wasn't enough time to like, I don't know if I can love again. You know? Come on. Nobody's heartbroken after a week and a half. He bared his soul, Fortune.

I think he was just like Yeah I think that show Jason has some layers Going on and they Fucked him up emotionally And I think he's processing That date

He's an onion with layers What do you think of Zach C Well let me look at the 36 year old addiction specialist oh um she was into him but he's clearly yeah i wasn't feeling him i would say he's like dadding the other guys i didn't dislike him i just it was almost like he was non-existent and then he talked to her for like two minutes and then she was like i feel like you're so wise and i was like oh, oh, did I miss something?

I mean, clearly there was conversations that we didn't see. He seems to be like a level-headed guy. Yeah. But we hadn't really seen or heard of him at all. You know what I mean? Yeah, because he's been on some dates. He was there to console Jason. Uh-huh. he hasn't yeah he hasn't really he's just been kind of trying to like help with the ed chasen situation but it was very like it was like hey he literally was like

hey guys just uh let's just move on but fortune's right he hasn't really had his own moment no no so for her to be like you're be like I feel like you're so much wiser than everyone. I'm like I'm just going to have to go on what she's telling us because we haven't had enough time with him. The penny moment. That was his moment. That's his biggest moment. When he's sitting at the fountain with her and they're throwing the pennies. Wasn't that

him? Oh that was him. Clara Tasia. Tasia. Okay. Where he said something like I don't know something romantic like pennies make wishes we'll come back and get our pennies oh yeah we'll come back

and hopefully they'll be true how are you feeling about Tayshia were you excited I like Tayshia I felt it's at least very like a much more fun show to watch now yes because it's the show that we know and love you want to see a bunch of hot people trying to find love you don't want to already have seen it happen

week two you want to see the journey of it yeah i i totally agree and we're making some educated guesses here but we really have no idea well Well, the best Bachelorette seasons are when you're getting to the finals and you really don't know who they're going to pick. Yeah. You don't want to be like, oh, it's definitely so-and-so. And so far, I mean, granted, it's only been two weeks.

I mean, my guess, if I had a guess, I'm going to do this every week, but what's your guess right now for top four? Hmm. Because I was going to say, I was going to add to what I was saying, that the reason why you don't want to know who they're picking is because the best part is when the bachelorette is like, I don't know who I'm going to spend my life with.

Literally the night before they're supposed to propose. And they're just like, this is the biggest decision of my life. I love them both. How am I going to choose? And then the next day they're getting married, getting proposed to. Anyway, sorry. I'm on a rant. Who do I think the top four?

I think Spencer is going to be in that good pick yeah i think i think noah's too young uh i think maybe ivan could be in that top four. Good pick. I'm going to say Jason could be in that top four because she likes those preppy, good looking guys. And he's from near the area that she grew up in where it is from.

And then one more guy. Ben. This is her pick. Yeah, I'm going guy. Ben. Yeah. This is her pick. Yeah, I'm going to say Ben. Okay. That's a good. Actually, no.

I take Ben back. Ben's going home. Brendan. Ben's definitely in my top four. But right now, if I had to pick, I'm going to say Ben. Ben's not going the distance. You don't think so? He'll go top five. Top five. Then he goes home. I'm going to say Ben. Ben's not going the distance. You don't think so? He'll go top five.

Top five. Then he goes home. I'm going to go Ben. Okay. I'm going to go... I'm going to say Zach C. Only because... The season trailer, which you should never trust,

made it seem... Oh, okay. I'm going to say Zaxxy. Okay. I'm going to say Ben. I'm going to say Ivan. And I'm going to say Spencer. Okay.

And that's tough because I agree. I could see Brandon. I can make a strong case for Brandon. Yeah. Brandon. Whatever. Brandon. I think you're right about Noah, but that wouldn't blow my mind if Noah made top four.

Yeah. He's silly like John Paul. He's got 11. Is that his name? Who? JPJ. JPJ. They have a similar vibe.

Yeah. He's got 10 10 siblings so that's another fun hometown yeah you know i could see him being like the fourth you know bring him to hometown have a fun right hometown and send him home because he is too young right uh yeah it's uh we it's a great mystery which makes me super invested. Yeah, I'm invested. Super interested. Any final thoughts on this episode or the season in general, Fortune? I think I'm going to enjoy the rest of the season.

I was not sure how I was feeling about this season with Claire. And I was all like, well like well there goes my what is it tuesday night fun in quarantine what else you gotta do yeah uh but now i'm looking forward to it i think taisha will keep smooching a lot of guys i think we're gonna see a lot of uh bikinis i heard bikini is a lot of shirtless dates coming up which uh we know the audience loves a lot more smoke shows more smoke shows uh no i think she's going to i think she's gonna have a hard time choosing i think she will too i think she's gonna fall for like the top four pretty hard i i think overall it seems like a nice group of guys. No one's necessarily,

you don't like these guys? Compared to what? I'm not impressed by these guys. I don't think she's gonna, I think. Compared to other seasons, I think they're as good as any. Yeah.

I don't know, maybe I just feel like they've been around for a long time. Is that weird that I feel that way? Like they've been around for a while. What do you mean? I guess I disagree. What does that mean?

I mean, it's like a couple that I'm like, I just find them. I think she'll end up getting engaged. I, whether or not it's her forever person, I'm doubtful about that. I mean,

she's dealing with less time, right? I mean, she's literally, I don't know what the, I'm curious about that. Like from when she shut up to when the end is. Four weeks maybe.

Which, you know. Yeah, unless they give her a couple extra episodes. Because what else is on TV right now? Soon to be fortune. Let's just extend it out, guys. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season. Yeah. Great question.

Will Tayshia find love? Will she find love? I think you're right, though, because there's less time and things are crammed in. It will be a detriment to Tayshia, but a gift to the audience because, you know, she is going to be forced to make decisions with less time and she probably will be more confused and you will get the, as you just. god who do i just who am i gonna propose to tomorrow you know yeah that's insane you're gonna get that it's insane when you think about it i i i feel strong that we'll get that this season as a result of how how things played out oh man it's like ben's season when he told

him the last two girls he loved them both i'm like oh my god you can't do that you can't do that sure you can she's gonna she's gonna probably do that yeah but look what happened jojo left somebody yeah somebody awesome and. It all worked out. It didn't work out for him, but now it did. Now he's engaged. Yeah. So there you go. All right.

Well, fortune. So telling people you love them is questionable. Who am I going to get proposed to from tomorrow? That's insane, but that's why we love the show. Yeah. Do you like Paradise or The Bachelor? I feel like you would like The Bachelor more then as a result of the insaneness.

I do like The Bachelor more, but I still tune into The Bachelor in Paradise. It's just a lot of laying around and drinking and boning. Yeah. Not as much boning as you would think but oh really well it happens i feel like the producers on paradise i don't know if they're the same producers but i feel like they're extra awesome the same they are the same yeah some of the things they do on paradise brilliant well it's a it's it's it's kind of their comedy show so they have

freedom like there's way more of a structure in a playbook with The Bachelor and Bachelorette. Yeah. The Paradise stuff is great. It's sillier. That Ashley and Jared stuff that time was amazing. Just seeing her cry all the time was pretty hilarious. You were engaged to her, so we're going to make you come stand outside a window and watch her get engaged to the other guy.

So fucked up. But also, great television. Great television. And that's why we love these shows. What a gift. What a gift. Fortune, congratulations on everything going on in your world. Thank you, Nick.

Where can people find you? You can find me on Instagram, at Fortune Feimster. And it's okay. Get those followers. And you're there for the right reasons. Yeah, I'm on Instagram, at Fortune Feimster. And it's okay. And you're there for the right reasons. Yeah, I'm on Instagram at fortunefeimster. I have, I don't know,

oh, my Netflix special, Sweet and Salty. Super funny. Check that out. And I have a podcast called Sincerely Fortune. I'm making Nick do that. I'm happily doing it. So, yeah, there you go. All that good stuff. Great. Well, there you go. All that good stuff. Great.

Well, congratulations on everything, and thanks so much for being a part of this. Thank you. Don't forget to tune in tomorrow for our 200th episode. Yay! What? Justin Long will be our guest, who's also a big Bachelor fan,

and I'll probably have to talk to him about The Bachelor, amongst other things that I would love to ask him about. And it will be a super fun and super awesome episode. Thanks for sticking with us for 199 episodes. Hopefully we'll get to 300. You will. You will. See you tomorrow.

Bye, guys.