The Viall Files - E269 Soccer Mom-ing With Molly Sims

Episode Date: May 19, 2021

Today on The Viall Files we are joined by the model, actress, mom, and now podcaster, Molly Sims. Molly's new podcast, called Lipstick On The Rim, talks all beauty and health needs. We chat about pare...nting, soccer mom-ing, getting married and having children later in life, and how dating can just suck sometimes. Nick and Molly are two friends catching up, and have a conversation about being grown ups and how what they have experienced in life got them to where they are today in relationships, career, and perspective, and how that will effect their futures in all of those areas.  “Something to do , somewhere to be, someone to love.” Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@kastmedia.com to be a part of our Monday episodes.  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Finding You: Make plans now to bring a friend, a family member, or even significant other to see ‘Finding You’, now in theaters everywhere. For more information or to find tickets to a theater near you, visit http://www.findingyouthemovie.com  Figs: http://www.wearfigs.com use promo code VIALL15 at checkout for 15% off your first order.  Huzzah: http://www.drinkhuzzah.com Use code VIALL for 20% off your order.  MasterClass: http://www.masterclass.com/VIALL to get 15% off an annual membership!  Untuckit: http://www.untuckit.com use code VIALL for 20% off your first purchase.  Episode Socials:  @viallfiles @nickviall @mollybsims See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:11 to refer to everyone as guys where are we on that I don't think so I honestly try to be conscientious of that like when I was the bachelor I was like why am I why would I call anyone guys when I have a room full of women and ladies but but what are you gonna do be like hey gals like look yeah i'd be like
Starting point is 00:01:31 hey ladies how you doing there's literally a room full of ladies and women ladies is better than like gals but even women will be like hey guys like hey guys women will say hey guys or what type guys to their women friends so it's i'm curious yeah yeah i don't talk to me in 10 years talk to me in 10 years we won't be able to talk to each other in 10 years honestly just not just not we'll go back who was it that was saying that we should bow like kelly it was kelly osborne that we should bow? Bow. Kelly. It was Kelly. Kelly Osbourne. That we should bow. Just everyone just bow. Acknowledge.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Anywho, Molly Sims is with us today. And Molly is just great. I had the pleasure of watching the Super Bowl with Molly. Well, before COVID happened. And she got a new podcast out. And she's been doing a lot of things. Has had and has a very fascinating and fun life and has some great perspective,
Starting point is 00:02:28 and we have a really great conversation about motherhood, parenting, soccer moms, kids in sports, getting older, dating, not loving all your kids the same or the fear of not loving all your kids the same and what that might be like, but yeah, Molly was great. And yeah, we talk about our podcast, new podcast, Lipstick on the Rim.
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Starting point is 00:03:25 Molly. How's the dating going? Great. Are we still with her? Yeah. How long has it been now? Her? What's her name? Natalie. Natalie. How long has it been? I think. Were you with her when I saw you were just started dating her, right? Yeah. I wasn't like, I was pretty coy about it. i saw you were just started dating her right i wasn't like i was pretty coy about it oh i like it yeah so it's what would have been almost i mean i've known her of like her existence on this earth since uh i remember like august talking about this august of 19. 2019? August of 19. That's good. So, and I met you in January of 2020. 2020.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah, so, do we like her, like her? Yeah, a lot. Yeah. Like her,
Starting point is 00:04:14 like her, like her, like her, like her. Like she moved in. Like she, oh, she moved in.
Starting point is 00:04:18 That's like. That's a like. You gave her more than a drawer. I think, yeah, she's the best. I don't even know if we were dating.
Starting point is 00:04:26 We're like, and we're just together. We're just having sex. No, much more than that. Okay, good. And breakfast. And breakfast. Lots of expectations. I like it.
Starting point is 00:04:37 With one another. How's your life? It's good. Three kids, you know. Being a movie star and a mom and a podcast host. It's, we had, we played t-ball this weekend we had two lacrosse games a pbba baseball game and a another soccer game it was it was eventful it was we crushed do you consider yourself a soccer mom as they say i'm a pretty if i were to show you this yeah i'm i i might be hardcore i might be i might be recruiting a lacrosse team right now i shit you not i with all the time i have left are you the screaming embarrassing mom molly no but i'm
Starting point is 00:05:22 i'm i'm in it i'm in it to win it i I was in fucking Torrance at 7.15 on Saturday morning. Where were you? Torrance. How old are your kids? Four, six, and eight. Oh my God, we're talking about four-year-old soccer? No, I wasn't. I was talking about eight-year-old soccer.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Eight is... Eight-year-old soccer is different than four-year-old soccer. Eight is is eight is eight is second grade eight is second grade still a little young he's a stud are you okay with your kids coaches disciplining your kids i am okay with uh any coach disciplining my kids as long as they give my kid the respect back we had a little bit of a weird situation where what do you mean by that well just a coach was uh extremely rude to uh brooks and my eight-year-old is very much of a rule follower slightly shy um great boy but just he doesn't he would never speak back to a coach because my husband and i have always taught him to respect sure elders and coaches and it just was really brash what the guy coach because my husband and I have always taught him to respect sure elders and
Starting point is 00:06:25 coaches and it just was really brash what the guy said so my husband left Netflix drove in traffic an hour and a half went down to the park waited for two hours and told the dad like no no what do you say he's like you you can't no no what did the what did the coach say to the kid um what are you still doing here get out of here like fuck off basically to brooksie what do you what do you mean that's what i'm saying there's there was a couple people standing there and heard it and called us and he was extremely rude but you know what the coach owned it the coach was like my husband said we teach our kids to respect you you have to respect our so he was just like dismissive to your kids very he's gonna be a dick he was being a dick so it wasn't like
Starting point is 00:07:10 he was actually even coaching him in the moment no he was he wasn't actually supposed to even be there they were trying he was down there and they're you know all the kids practice together and the mom was like oh just put him on he can he no not at all was not acceptable i know it doesn't sound like a lot when you don't have kids but when you have kids it was a fucking asshole i uh i am i am often curious about this i want kids i i played sports i i like i can't wait to play sports with my kids and you know my when i grew up like i was very athletic and even though my my dad wasn't my mom probably was but she didn't play sports right i'm pretty sure i got my athleticism from my mom but like she was like i don't know how are you good you know like and the greatest thing my
Starting point is 00:07:58 parents my parents like you and your husband have taught me to respect my elders, to just listen, learn. Respect the Packers at all times, no matter what. After 16 years of giving your life, your... No, the team, not the players. The team. Some of my greatest coaches were kind of assholes. A lot of people didn't like them. I'll never forget the first time I was like in the fourth grade this is like one of my first years playing baseball and this was like rec league this wasn't i eventually played like
Starting point is 00:08:29 select and like played on nationals and like the traveling team but the first time this was like you're local this is what you sign up this is a participation trophy shit and and i'll never forget the first day of practice it was mr shackner god bless. I still hold a soft place in my heart for him. The first day I met Mr. Shackner, Mr. Shackner played like minor league baseball and he took his baseball very seriously. And within 15 minutes of practice, this man, his coffee breath and whatever
Starting point is 00:08:56 was just in my face yelling, like spitting, not spitting because he was like just, and I was just terrified of this man. But I was just like, shut up and listen, you know? But he was like just yeah and i was just terrified of this man but i was just like shut up and listen you know but he was like he he taught me how to play baseball and i ended up getting really good and he was i'm so thankful of of that now there's nothing better than a good coach yeah and he he again yeah like a lot of parents would not be okay what's different now is now that the parents coach and that is a no-go for me mr shatner was the father of ryan who was on my team yeah i'm not i'm not a fan of that i know i just not i'm not why i i don't i'm curious i live on
Starting point is 00:09:37 the west side of la don't get me started i there's a lot listen all these other people listen to this podcast are parents of little soccer and baseball players. I'm curious. We just had a situation where like... Coach's son was batting third? Yeah. It just... I don't like it. I don't. Even though my son, my husband coaches T-ball, the grasshoppers to be exact.
Starting point is 00:10:02 That's one thing. But once they get older, i really that's what's nice about some of these club leagues like sure but for the leagues where they might not be able to hire a coach then you know i guess if the parent takes the time out of their schedule to coach the team yeah but then coach fairly that's our point what's fair play the kids you know what i mean don't just play your fucking son or like i mean no offense like be fair my husband is an amazing coach he doesn't care he literally like put a kid on his shoulders and went around the bases but be fair be cool and i don't know i
Starting point is 00:10:36 just just you know everybody thinks their kid's gonna go pro they're five two they you know yeah they're four years old they're four years old but we're not going pro your kid's not that good but your kid can bat third if you're gonna coach i guess i don't know i just i i think that you have to give all the kids an opportunity and i think you have to be a good if you're gonna coach you got to be a good coach at what age do you think or maybe it depends on the league. Because I remember being a kid, right? And we played on this baseball team. And Joe Tam, one of my childhood best friends,
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Starting point is 00:11:28 And Joe, when we were like in the seventh grade, wasn't as good. And I remember his mom, we were in the lacrosse, lacrosse is a city in Wisconsin. It was the biggest tournament, right? And we were in the semifinals. And his mom cried to the coach because Joe didn't get to play. And we were like, sorry, Joe.e sorry joe you're not playing but every parent thinks their kid is the greatest and that's the thing but what i i don't i don't agree with that i know but you what if you're what if the coach what if the coach is right about his kid but you're wrong i i would take that i
Starting point is 00:12:02 could possibly be wrong okay i i could could. No, I honestly like- But your kid's great. You know what? He is, he's a good athlete and what I really love about my kids, they show up, they give it their best
Starting point is 00:12:16 and, you know, that's all really a parent can ask for. But yeah, they work really, really, really hard. Yeah, I believe in, yeah, I played sports. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Seriously though, yeah. Yeah, tennis, basketball, and hard. Yeah, I played sports. Yeah, of course. Seriously though, yeah. Yeah, tennis, basketball, and crash. Yeah, you look like you'd be like really good at sports. I was pretty good at sports. Yeah. I like sports. I think it's great for kids. I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:35 got to give them somewhere to be, something to do. And you know, it's the thing, the old saying is like, you got to have something to do, somewhere to be, and someone to love. Three things you need in your life. Do I say that again? Did I have something to do, somewhere to be, and someone to love. Three things you need in your life. Do I have to say that again? Did I say that too fast?
Starting point is 00:12:49 Somewhere to be or something to do, somewhere to be, somewhere to love. Wait, someone to love, somewhere to be, and something to do. You need those three things in your life. That's great. It's a good one. Yeah. Have you never heard that? I haven't, but I often say like when we're bored, good good things don't happen and that helps no but i'm just saying like something
Starting point is 00:13:09 to do when you have something to do i think sometimes people who don't have anything they're bored or they just can't they don't have a passion i think that you know can really affect someone someone to love you know they say lonely people are more depressed as we all know like in terms of a breakup or just not a great community of friends or family and then clearly aaron is in the family part of that and then uh um somewhere to be i was actually talking about this with natalie this weekend what is your stance when it comes to parenting your kids in sports and helping them or, or like encouraging them to believe in their dreams versus setting real realistic expectations for themselves? I mean, listen, I, you know, I come from Kentucky,
Starting point is 00:13:59 so I've always been taught my parents were self-made, um, dream big, you know, I've always been taught my parents were self-made. Dream big. I've always, I mean, look at my career. I was never supposed to be from Kentucky. I turned into a model, lived in Europe for seven years. I do. I don't know if you know those realistic expectations when you're young. So I think instead of putting that out there, do the best you can. Dream big and nothing's perfect.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I'm a big believer in building a nothing's perfect. I think it's, I'm a big believer in building a kid's confidence. I think it is everything. Now, do you want to, there's a point where you don't want to be unrealistic, but I think you have to set them up with the tools to be whomever they want to be. And sometimes that doesn't meet your parents' expectations and that can be difficult as well. that doesn't meet your parents' expectations. And that can be difficult as well. Figs, like I said, they are awesome. You know that I wear my figs at the grocery store so I can look smart.
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Starting point is 00:16:54 I want to preface this by saying my parents are amazing parents, some of the greatest parents that gave me so much. I am so thankful for my parents. I will never forget the moment that my dad told me how unlikely it would be that I would ever be a professional athlete. Again, I owe them so much. And my parents were so great and they
Starting point is 00:17:18 were so supportive of me playing all the sports. They made their whole lives about their kids. My brother was a pro golfer, so he stopped playing golf at 39. Yeah, but in case you're listening, Dad, I'm not shitting on you. But something I will never say to my kid, I don't know how old I was, but I was seven, six, seven. I'll never forget it.
Starting point is 00:17:39 My dad's putting me to bed. I was on the top bunk, and my dad was asking me about what I want to be when I grow up. And I said something like oh well a professional baseball player and i remember him telling me like well you know kind of hard to do that you know like so like maybe you know i don't know what he said but i was really good at sports and i'm not saying i would have made it to be a professional baseball player. I was scouted by the Braves in the Tampa Bay Devil Rays in high school. Yeah, you were.
Starting point is 00:18:09 My husband played baseball. But I'm just saying, I just remember never thinking it was possible. Because I can be good. You gotta always think it's possible. But it was like he planted that seed of, like, I great but you're not gonna go pro it's again so grateful for my parents and my my parents got it right with me they i'm so blessed but i if if i'm lucky enough to have kids i don't ever want to plant that seed in my kids head that is i want them to believe that as hard as if they want want, they can be anything they want, whatever it is, but they will have to work hard.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And there's no guarantees, but take a chance and go for it. Yeah. And because it's, I will never forget that. I'll never forget that moment. It's like the little seed that's in the back of your head. And I agree. Like, you know, my parents were, you know, big with my brother.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I don't think ultimately my parents thought my brother was going to make it. He ended up making it. He lasted about 10 years on the PGA Tour, 10 or 12 years. But again, I think had they said you, I don't know that he would have. I mean, even for me, I was a Vanderbilt living, you know, college, whatever. And then making that step of going and living and giving up all that I had really worked for. So I do think you got to be careful with the Z.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yeah, I will never forget. And again, I probably still wouldn't have made pro, but. You probably would have. What if I would have worked a little bit harder? What if I would have actually, because I am someone when I like set a goal for myself, like I really focus. What's your sign? Libra.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I obsess over the goals that i have for myself i obsess over the goals yeah but are you do you think you're born like that i think there's i think there's a personality trait that i have whatever it is now whether it's a body engineering that we've discussed or libra or whatever that there's. You're something in your makeup. And also I'm sure you like competition. Yeah, love. I love it. Like give me a goal.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Give me someone to compete against. I got you. Yeah. And if I don't got you, I'll try my best to. I also think that's what makes me like with my kids. Like I try to set them up and like I get behind them. You know what I mean? My parents were really, really awesome at that.
Starting point is 00:20:26 You know, they really, I don't know. They just, they got in there. They made us talk to them. They were, you know, I mean, listen, nobody's perfect. And, you know, but I do think it's how you're kind of made. But then nature versus nurture. At an early age, my parents told me just how persistent i was like as like a two-year-old it was it wasn't a matter of if it was just i had
Starting point is 00:20:52 to figure out the right way to ask or i would negotiate be like if i can't go out but what if i hear me out if i vacuum the living room and take out the garbage then can i go and i would just wear them down oh no my little one who's four he like can negotiate like throw himself but then he'll be like i promise to be good how much of that gets annoying or how much deep down are you kind of respect it because you know that those well right now with three kids i'm annoyed nick i'm tired i'm annoyed i'm like i'm annoyed he said oh fuck for the first first time the other day which is your eight-year-old my four-year-old oh i heard my husband going crazy and my husband's six four he doesn't really go off i can go off more than he can
Starting point is 00:21:39 and so he goes and i go into his room like what what's wrong? Like what? He was like, he said it. I was like, what? You're fucking kidding me. Anyway, so I go in there and I'm like, what happened? What happened? And I was like, it's really pretty. He's got white blonde hair and big boys. He goes, I said it. I go, what did you say?
Starting point is 00:21:57 He goes, oh, fuck. And I'm like, why did you say it? He goes, I don't know. My brain made me say it. Anyway, my brain made me say it. And then I'm like you're grounded because I went I went in there to be like oh dad's being too rough you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:22:10 like sorry I was like no stay in your room do you guys have a discussion you and your husband like whose fault is it like who did he hear it from is it TV is it you guys I don't know Scarlett heard it and she's like yeah daddy said it because he broke something on the bike.
Starting point is 00:22:26 And he was trying to fix it. And he said it, mom. He said it. And he said the H word. I was like, the H word? She goes, the hate word. I was like, oh, God. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:37 The H. I don't let them say the H word. And so I'm like, the H word. Anyway, it's fine. Welcome to. Do you remember when you started swearing um i bet by the time i was eight i was really i remember having because i grew up in a very traditional catholic conservative household so did i and i remember like walking around the block having a thought being like i really fucking swear a lot to myself.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Like I should probably stop this. I'm going to get in trouble. I'm going to get caught. Like someone's going to tell on me because at recess, I'm just like trying to fit in and dropping F-bombs. But I remember swearing a lot at like seven, eight years old. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I just remember things like when I was young, it was just so much different. Like I remember riding my yellow moped with my flag and thinking I was the shit. And I don't even, like I- The flag. The flag. It was awesome.
Starting point is 00:23:35 The flag was the bomb. It was the bomb. I lived in the suburbs and like I had a median and I just would crush that median and go in circles like all the time. And like with my dog ears, ponytails, I just couldn crush that median and go in circles like all the time. Like with my dog ears, ponytails. I just couldn't find me. I was like, I like to always elderly people.
Starting point is 00:23:50 So I'd like be hanging out, you know, with Larry and Tammy having, I don't know, a Coke or something. But those were the days. Like now it's different. It's so different. Being a kid? Being a parent and a kid.
Starting point is 00:24:03 How so? I think it depends on where you live. What do I have to look forward to? la raising kids is so easy it's um it's gonna be so fun so easy you know it's just i mean i think my my husband and i like i know for me my my biggest fear in life is raising douchey kids you know yeah i know i like that specific thought specific thought. It's a very specific thought. Yeah. How does one do that? I think letting other people raise them,
Starting point is 00:24:33 not instilling the right values early on. And I think it's very easy now with everything going on with electronics and iPads and social. And I just think it's too much too soon douchiness can come from a place of of like mismanaged confidence or maybe even insecurity right yeah but douchiness is a certain is a certain you get it when you're like oh god don't be a douche like you know what i mean like you know what you feel it's like a vagueness of like not really it's not that vague when you're douchey no but how do you how do you coach that up how do you teach that to your and i just think it's it and who can like men i guess women can be douchey
Starting point is 00:25:17 too right yeah i mean i guess yeah totally it's more known from a from a boy of men yeah so is it humility that you have to teach? I think you have to teach humility. I think you also have to have them learn to be grateful. You know, I don't, there's a whole back and forth about empathy. I hope my kids are born with empathy, but if not, I will try to instill it in them. I think you have to go beyond, especially if you live in LA, New York, the bigger cities, like you have to take them out of their element.
Starting point is 00:25:48 You have to take them out of, you know, 90067 or 9021. You know what I mean? Like you have to help your kids evolve in that way. And I think opening them up to other cultures, other societies, other states, other, you know, I think we saw even through COVID how different states, I mean, the kids won't really understand that and see that, but, and there's no one way that's at the end of the day, you can still do the best you can and still have a douchey kid. Masterclass. That's right. Now is a great time to learn. Well,
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Starting point is 00:28:12 Head to Untuckit.com. Use code VIALL for 20% off. I think it's also about self-awareness in terms of douchiness. It's like really making sure you have a kid who can read the room and sort of understand how to adapt to various situations that but that is taught yeah right because i think it's taught i think every kid and they'll have a moment where they act out right and that's different sure but if it's not necessarily you know because i don't know i'm trying to think of a scenario where you see a
Starting point is 00:28:41 kid you know being kind of a shit to his peers right that's gonna happen but what you don't want to happen is over and over and that becomes his identity that becomes where do you understand what i'm saying totally i don't know i just think for me like trying to be there and get in early and really and again it's it's a different world so we're all learning and we're all like it's's not easy. It's easier to turn a blind eye. I know you won't see it now, but once you have kids, it's sometimes easier to be like, oh, I don't know. It's an interesting.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I feel like a criticism out there of parents or this generation is, you know, kind of talking about soccer moms and coaching is this idea that no one can yell or parent their kids but them and everyone thinks they have the best and most awesome kid. That's just not true. Yeah, I totally agree.
Starting point is 00:29:33 So like with that, if you're not going to ever like check your kids, so to speak, and let your kid know that maybe they're not the greatest of all time and maybe, just maybe, they didn't deserve that trophy. I agree agree that might help them not acting douchey and entitled to everything they want later in life a hundred percent agree like i i let i want my kids to know two things when
Starting point is 00:29:58 they're younger love and disappointment me too gotta be disappointed they gotta be there's nothing better than a great coach and a great be there's nothing better than a great coach and a great teacher there's nothing better there's nothing better like and again like i they gotta be disappointed gotta be yeah because how are they going to handle that disappointment and and work through it and go back to the drawing table and and figure out as you know a young kid what they got wrong and come back and say, mom, I get it now. Like he was up to bat and I could see him and he's playing the Mustang.
Starting point is 00:30:29 So he's in a like kind of an older group because of his birthday. And I could literally like see him and I see my, I can feel my husband, like his hands were shaking because I was like kind of up close to the thing. And you're just like, and he struck out, right? And he looked back and he's like, oh.
Starting point is 00:30:47 He normally goes, he goes, keep on doing it. I know, over and over he struck out again. But guess what? Three games fucking later, three RBIs, got the game ball. And I mean, I've never like, but that's, again, that's, you're not gonna say that was awesome when he struck out. Yeah, no, but let me give you a scenario. Kid's up to bat.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Love it. Strikes out. And he takes the bat and smashes the bat in anger on home plate and then throws the bat and stomps his feet and kicks dirt. Was that a young Nick file? What do you do? I think my husband would yank his ass out of there. I did that once. And my dad went to the coach and said,
Starting point is 00:31:30 take his ass out of the game. Yeah. And yeah. He didn't like it when he threw. Yeah, I'm grateful for that. Yeah. I know, right? There's a kid who we play with and he's really aggressive and everything.
Starting point is 00:31:40 And they took him out. I never thought this would be what we talked about, Nick Vile. Who knows? I know. I kind of love it. Well, I know you have parents. I never thought this would be what we talked about in a file. Who knows? I kind of love it. Well, I know you have parents. I want to be a parent. And we were talking-
Starting point is 00:31:49 You're gonna be, by the way, you're gonna be an awesome dad. I hope so. You are. You had good role models and you're like, you're not douchey. So there you go. You wear good shoes. We've all been douchey.
Starting point is 00:32:00 You have to have been a, have you been douchey? Of course. What's your doucheiest moment do you think? I don't't know but i've definitely had some good douchey moments it's funny you look back and you think like you look at the fashion i was on access the other day and they pulled up like a 20 year old photo and everybody's like i was like oh my god it looked amazing are you kidding me looked incredible like look how thin my arms look um yeah no i don't know um i remember getting into a club in london called embargo and i thought i was the shit that was fun have you ever tall attractive woman model in your prime club days
Starting point is 00:32:49 model in your prime club days have you ever refused to wait in a line uh have i ever refused to wait in a line because i feel like that probably is a little douchey probably but i don't know i never really waited so i don't i don't mean to sound like at the time like i don't know that i i are it's funny josh de mel, we were on Vegas together for a while and I said to him, I'm like, you have like this, you have your face, that's your ticket. Yeah. He has a good face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Josh Duhamel. No, great face. Great face. Other things too, but great face. But, you know, like if Josh Duhamel walked into a front of the line and just stood there and was just like do you see the Adam Sandler thing the other day at IHOP no that was awesome what was it
Starting point is 00:33:30 um they didn't recognize him I mean they were like it's going to be a 30 minute wait did you see it yeah yeah and uh it was awesome it was awesome he was he's a delight he's a delightful human being him and his family but he's the best honestly such a a man he was like ah he was trying to see if he had time and and then they recognized and they didn't recognize and they tried it was just it was good he was he was not douchey at that moment it's awesome it was awesome it's the worst you know you know especially like reality TV people. And all of a sudden they're just like, they go to the front of the line, you know?
Starting point is 00:34:10 And I always hate it. Like when I went out and then my friend, you know, like my friends from Wisconsin, it's all cool to them. And we would go out and be like, well, just bro, just like tell them that you were like, do you think this bouncer guy gives a shit about like the fact that I was on the bouncer? And I can guarantee you this much.
Starting point is 00:34:26 If I walk up to him and let him know that I was, he will go out of his way to not let me in. Totally. But what the trick is, is to slowly walk to the front of the line, have a bunch of women in line notice you, get a bunch of side and then they will let you in. There's a trick. I know. My whole team was like, oh, I have three girls who work with me four girls and i'm they're like oh have so much fun um i'm like oh i will oh okay we'll take pictures i'm like you guys are crazy they're in their early 30s they think you're hot it's good ask him if he's still with her i'm like okay
Starting point is 00:35:02 i will it's cute. They're hot. So now you're a mother. You've been kind of open about the changes in your life from when you were in your 20s. Do you like being in your, I don't know how old you are. Do you like being older and a mother? In my 40s, you can say it. I don't know. It's all good.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I don't know. I was like, wait, before I say something stupid, I'm just going to stop assuming. It's like you're like the four-year-old who's going to say fuck. I know I shouldn't say it i don't know it's all good i don't know i was like before i say something stupid i'm just gonna stop assuming it's like you're like the four-year-old who's gonna say fuck yeah i know i shouldn't say it how do you like being your early 30s now that you're not in your 20s yes i love it what is it yeah what is it like because obviously uh society seems to be harder on women as they age than they do yeah is that a fair it's a very fair. You know, I'm an older parent per se, like, you know, most of my, I went to Vanderbilt and most of my friends, especially in the South, already have kids who are graduating or graduated. So it was a little
Starting point is 00:36:03 bit difficult in the beginning, in early 40s when i started well i started having kids in my late 30s i was considered old so that was a little bit of a shift but i didn't consider myself old so i think that helped um but i you know i never wanted kids young and I think I got to travel and do all the things that I wanted to do and not to say that I don't get to do some of the things that I really still want to do it's hard to act as much and still you know go to seven um soccer and lacrosse and t-ball games but i'm happy i yeah but i'm happy for different reasons you know what i mean like i you know there's only so much like i didn't really want to marry someone who was like a peter pan at that point like i didn't get married till i was almost 30 i was 38 so I I'm glad even though like you got married at 38 I got married at 38 or 39 yeah I was always dating like I was very codependent I was dating like someone I could fix so I would
Starting point is 00:37:13 fix like a dead bird on the side of the road like disease but if I could fix you or change you you know I was really good at that it was was really, it was so much fun. I mean, because I think there's a stereotype out there and there's a lot of women and we talked to them on this podcast. It's like they'll hit their early 30s and mid 30s. Oh, God forbid. And they act as if, and maybe it's because society treats them like that.
Starting point is 00:37:41 That's, it's over. I didn't find a guy yet and and yeah and i think it's not over i mean i have to say i'm so happy that i waited because i feel like so many of my friends now are having major issues they're getting divorced they're in their early to mid 40s and i almost feel like i've just begun like i do think though that i waited like look no one's perfect um a man nor a woman but i do think i feel like and i and i mean this like my husband and i have the same goals like you know what i mean we have the same we're okay we were brought up with with not a lot of money so we appreciate money we respect money we you know we work hard for it we weren't given anything in our lives.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Like he grew up in Granada Hills and I grew up in Murray fucking Kentucky. Like I mean, no internet, no. So we're very compatible in that way. And we also, we both have good morals. And I know that sounds really like, ah, she's conservative and lame, but like those base things like it really
Starting point is 00:38:46 does help later on in life you know what i mean like totally i don't know that was like how'd you guys meet uh we met i was getting um my girlfriend into um a golden globes party that was really difficult to get into and i know she wanted to have sex with his hairdresser did you sneak through the back i want to know which one it was no no um anyway i got her in and i just was like i was kind of over it i was in a bad like situation with the guy that i was dating and i just like in hollywood as you know it's like you could be like having the word everything's canceled you're like how's your podcast like it's amazing like there's like a million downloads a day like and you could be canceled next like you always kind of pretend everything is better in hollywood and so and my husband's a really good politician and
Starting point is 00:39:33 i'm pretty good at that moment i was just like i can't be fake like i was standing by the doorway and i don't even know if it was britney spears or someone having a breakdown across at the saddle ranch and like we're i think it was at the tower bar i can a breakdown across at the Saddle Ranch. And like, we were, I think it was at the Tower Bar. I can't even remember. But I was waiting for my car. I got in her and I was like, I can't, I can't do this anymore. Like I've been, we went to the Globes. I'm like, we waited. I got her in the after party. And he was there and he, we just like, we started talking and he, he was with someone quite serious and uh he had just got married and i was like oh congrats and he was like yeah and i was like you know he just got married like six months ago meanwhile that was not happening a month later so um yeah so he asked me out for an entire year
Starting point is 00:40:22 and i didn't go out with him because I was no good for any guy I think that's the other thing like instead of fixing other people I started to kind of focus on myself as opposed to like what I want and what I need and I think that's where the shift happened like I ended up dating a bunch that year but it was better because I wasn't I wasn't good I wasn't good I wasn't in a good place I didn't feel good about myself I felt honestly like you know a lot of girls get in that moment where like they're not married they don't have a kid and I was really I was kind of fucking miserable to be honest with you like a lot of like self-doubt and just like self-doubt and I couldn't believe I'd gone to see an IVF doctor and there I was still doing sports illustrator. I was like, what is happening? Like, what is, what am I missing? Like, what is wrong with me? And I just, I was dating
Starting point is 00:41:09 the wrong guys. You know what I mean? And like, I'd gotten really dumped really badly in my early thirties. And, you know, just because you love someone doesn't mean you marry them. And it was, it was, uh, it definitely hurt me for a long time. And he's a great guy. I still love him, but it wasn't ultimately meant to be. And then I dated someone younger and that was a disaster,
Starting point is 00:41:33 a complete disaster. How much younger were they? Eight years. Good for you. But it was at the time. Like I don't think if there was like late 40s, early. I mean, it might've been a disaster, but what a flex.
Starting point is 00:41:44 It was so fun. But yeah. Yeah. But you probably spent a lot of time. I don't want to be someone's mother. Yeah. That's so not sexy. But at the time, what drew you to that relationship?
Starting point is 00:42:00 Almost like it made you feel. Is that the relationship that followed the hard breakup? No, we're the same age. Enrique and I were the same age and we could not say no no but like the the tough breakup yeah the next relationship was the younger yeah because i kept thinking i was gonna go back and i kept being like and when he came back i'm like i'm just gonna give it like a few more months and i'm like gonna give it and then i'm like it wasn't gonna we just we're we're two different he's like crazy latin awesome like we're just two different people at our court but um yeah I he was there was no pressure he was just young and fun and cool and you know I don't know he just he was like the opposite of me like he
Starting point is 00:42:40 drank beer and lived in a tent I don't know it was weird i don't know what the fuck what i was thinking literally like i look back i'm like what in the world was i thinking you can send him my way yeah like a guy who drinks beer in a tent at this point total guess would have been like the the other relationship fucked you up a little bit it's totally doubting your self-worth at the moment and you met a guy who worshipped you. Yeah. And you were like, this feels great. I don't care what you live in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:09 You worship me. Done. Done. But it was good. It was good until it wasn't. And then he started being an ass and I didn't really understand. And anyway, yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:43:22 But I do say that dating is not easy. It's a goddamn nightmare and that's totally fine it's it's a nightmare but it's a means to an end it can be fun sometimes in the middle of constant disappointment yeah like it's i also think you're like yeah like i remember being like even when i met suber like i knew what i wanted at that time even if you didn like like i remember being like even when i met stuber like i knew what i wanted at that time even if you didn't like i knew what i wanted like at one point you're gonna turn 40 or no i think what are you 38 39 47 you're 40. oh you're 40. okay so and again you could be peter pan you're you're young you're hot you you've got a great business like but again like at that point it's like what do you want?
Starting point is 00:44:05 You could still be doing this at 50, you know what I mean? Or 60, it doesn't matter. Sadly, with guys, they can be Peter Pan in their own life. What do you mean by Peter Pan? I mean, I get what it means, but what do you mean by it? I mean that you don't have to settle down. You don't have to change. You can just be Peter Pan.
Starting point is 00:44:27 You can live your life and do what you want and be selfish. And again, that's the way you should. I look back and I think, of course he was supposed to be Peter Pan. He was young. I don't know. Yeah, but I guess it just depends on, for you, for example, you got married at 38 and then in your 30s you you had these relationships in your 20s and early 30s and you broke some
Starting point is 00:44:53 hearts you had your heart broken and you're saving lives and fixing people and eventually you were like i've now i've figured out what i want. Right. And then I started being jealous. I, I was in a grocery store or whatever. And I, I walked by and I had this amazing, beautiful picture of Heidi Klum and she was so hot and so beautiful. And she started a little bit before me,
Starting point is 00:45:16 but we were in the same era. And I just remember thinking like, I'm so jealous. Like, but I wasn't jealous that she was on the cover. I was jealous that she was married and had four jealous. But I wasn't jealous that she was on the cover. I was jealous that she was married and had four kids. I think I got to the point where I didn't want to be a gypsy. And trust me, I'm a gypsy. I can leave tomorrow to New York, to Paris, to New Zealand, anywhere.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I love traveling. And I got used to that. I think with Vegas with Vegas being in LA never wanting to be in LA and being stuck here and then seeing the same people you know as a model you're you're only with the same person like maybe three days a week four days if you're booked on a week like maybe so that was like a big transition for me and so when I was off the show I moved I you know I still have my place here but I kept you know I had my you know Carrie off the show, I still have my place here, but I had my Carrie Bradshaw apartment, which I still do, in New York. I just felt like this wasn't going to be my home. I don't know. The gypsy part of me at 35, 36, it started wearing on me.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Sure. Living in a trailer, living in a suitcase. It sounds fun, but it's it's why you know with acting it's difficult you know i don't want to live in atlanta i want to live no that makes sense too because like you know as you know for me too you know like you you say like peter pan and it could but like a lot comes down to like the choices you make on a day-to-day basis. I mean, rather than the perception of being single in a certain age, right?
Starting point is 00:46:50 Like at some point you started realizing what you want and didn't want. And then you made some changes. And like you said, at some point you're just like, these parties aren't any cooler or more fun than any other parties. And you're just like, whatever. And then you met a guy and at a point where you were
Starting point is 00:47:05 confident what you want and didn't want and that and he also was yeah and he also was you know a guy that was a producer that was traveled that was i mean he was not an actor so he was more you know of an executive in that way so he had somewhere to be for a year you told him no so you or you met him at a point where you knew how to set boundaries for yourself totally like he didn't call for like three days what the fuck i was like no no no no no because like 28 year old you might have given in way sooner oh yeah way sooner i remember i was in chloe boots the motorcycle boots and a white t-shirt v-neck it was beautiful i think i still have the same one um and leather
Starting point is 00:47:48 pants are maybe like getting up and he's like where are you going i'm like no this is not for me with super i'm like no i'm not your i'm not your exes i don't you know you just can't not call me or yeah set those goals set those boundaries ladies it does make them listen yeah and you were chill about it i was so chill about it you can't even i'm trying to instill into my audience to just like even if you don't feel chill just for for like three minutes suck it up don't have verbal diarrhea sound chill and then call your friends and lose your shit. And lose your mind. But to them, you're being like, it's cool, man. I'm going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Oh, yeah. I got it. He's like, where are you going? I was like, oh, I'm going to go to my house. I just don't understand. I'm like, oh, well, we're good. I just don't think this is, you know. Yeah, when a guy says he doesn't understand, you know you've got him.
Starting point is 00:48:41 He's like, I just don't understand. It's hard, though. It is a little bit of a it is a little bit of a still a cat i mean you've got a you know i don't like games but you've also got to like you know as long as you're letting him know how you feel it's not game playing no no you know because you really were over it you really you had some red flags about him for whatever you know red flags are just things to be like, I don't know about you.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Like there's some things. And so I'm going to say no right now because it's unclear. And those were all true things. You get yourself in trouble when you want something and you are deliberately being difficult to elicit a reaction. It is the worst thing women do. And also being passive aggressive, I think is one of the worst thing women do and also being passive-aggressive I think is one of the worst things women can do do you think women are more passive-aggressive than men or do you do I
Starting point is 00:49:32 do I don't know if I agree Aaron Rodgers man super passive-aggressive super passive-aggressive um I do I think women can be very manipulated I mean you know manipulating um yeah i know it's a great question for men to ask their their partners and i i dropped this on nally recently out of nowhere just sit him down and go have you ever manipulated me ever pay attention to her reaction she's silent she doesn't she's like i don't think so it's like you know we all can play little games but it's a good question to ask your partner have you ever manipulated me i'm gonna ask him i'm going. If you get an honest answer, they should think about it at least. They shouldn't just answer.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Of course not, babe. You haven't really thought about it because we all can... We all do it. Play some games. But did you knowingly... Did you knowingly... Play chess with me my heart because
Starting point is 00:50:47 you were yeah we never have you cheated on me have you done this have you manipulated me have you manipulated me that's a good question it's a really good question no but i do i think uh i think all uh there's not one love for everyone. I think you can have many great loves of your life. I think it's different when you marry them. I don't know. I agree. I've had some great loves, but not to marry. Is your husband okay with that?
Starting point is 00:51:19 Yeah, I'm sure he's had some great loves. I think that's great. I think people get themselves in trouble when they try to pretend that doesn't exist. It's hard expectations to live up to. No one else before you. It mattered. I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:36 All those other people brought me to you. All this bullshit. That is so true right there. Brought me to you. That is so what you've learned and the mistakes you've made because everybody's going to make mistakes and you're going to learn from them hopefully or not and keep repeating them until you do yeah the the and i do think men are i don't know do you think men or women are more guilty of of shaming and guilting their partners for their
Starting point is 00:52:01 past people do that a lot i start, they learn about who they've been with or hooked up with or who they dated. And they throw these little jabs, be like, oh, because you dated her or because you hung out with him or like, oh, you know. I think both do it. I think women do it a little bit more. Do you think the opposite?
Starting point is 00:52:19 I think that's one of the things that I like about our relationship the most is we don't do that. I think we both recognize that people have liked us and we've hung out with those people. Things have happened and here we are together. Do you think she is your equal? Oh yeah. I also more importantly, I think we balance each other out. I think she really helps even out my weaknesses really well. I annoy her more than she annoys me, which is a little concerning for me.
Starting point is 00:52:51 That's a little concerning. That's okay. I know Super can be so like, I can be so emotional and he can just be like so calm. I mean, sometimes it's irritatingly calm, but a lot of times it just brings it all down. I'm calm. He's like so calm.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Yeah, I'm like, yes. He's like, don't worry about it. I've had that problem with other relationships. My calmness just infuriated them. You can't be too calm. You have to have, it can't be like unemotional. It can't be like not, it can be calm, but it can't be like calm, calm, calm.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Do you ever feel like he doesn't care because he's too calm? Well, yeah. I'm like, why are you not upset about this? I mean, oh yeah. Yeah, I get that criticism sometimes. Yeah, but he's like very stable, very like, okay, we're gonna figure this out.
Starting point is 00:53:43 It's all gonna be good at the end. And I'm like, ah! that was a weird ah i sounded like a pterodactyl yeah it's fine but it's fine it's all right um but yeah it's uh it's it's interesting i don't wish i could go back though you don't like people are like oh i could wish i could relive though. You don't? Mm-mm. Like people are like, oh, I wish I could relive my camp days. You know what I mean? They're like, I wish I could relive my like 20.
Starting point is 00:54:10 I don't, no. It's weird. Would you want to be immortal? I don't know. Why not? This is a weird question. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Would you want to be immortal? I think maybe the real question is if you could be immortal at any age, what age would you pick? But your brain is stuck there. So it's not just a physical thing. It's like your psychological development is also in that place.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Well, my psychological? The days of The Bachelor? Would you like to be stuck there? No, but the one thing you learn about life, I don't know what age you finally learn the concept of perspective. And if that's one thing that I like, I don't know how to you don't have to teach it. Like the first time I was going through a heartbreak. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:55 My grandma, Phyllis, I call her Phyllis, you know, cool grandma. And and and Phyllis was just like, bro, you're super young. Like chill the fuck out. And I was just like, you don't understand. And I'm like, she's like, you're telling me I don't understand, right? And I just, the idea of perspective, just the idea that I hadn't figured it all out yet,
Starting point is 00:55:20 that thought didn't dawn on me. And I don't, it wasn't until my late 20s early 30s that i at least had the self-awareness that i didn't know at all and that i'm going to keep learning as i go and that's a big moment as i get older and older i keep learning more and i get smarter right and i accumulate knowledge and so you asked me that question today and it's just like well probably now because i feel like i know the most if we're talking just intellectually but like 10 years from now i'm gonna know that much more but if you're combining my physical characteristics and and my ability to like touch my toes you know like i 35 38 38. Maybe a baseball player, Nick Vile.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Right around this period in time would have been a great, I'd rather, I'd have a vampire bite me right about now. Yeah. And yes, I would be fine with being immortal. Maybe. Maybe. I like Phyllis though. Phyllis is great.
Starting point is 00:56:23 She loves sports. She loves Aaron Rodgers on the backers. maybe i like phyllis though phyllis is great she loves she loves sports that's a good she loves aaron rogers on the backers uh she does i'm curious what phyllis said thinks about this this drama she's a she's a diehard fan i only asked why if you wanted to be immortal because you know like again sometimes people if you you you said you didn't want to live live it again and it's just like is it the experience of the lessons or is it just going back the experience of the lessons i don't know like sometimes i feel but then there's that question of knowing what you know now yeah but being 20 year old self i. I interviewed Tinks the other day,
Starting point is 00:57:06 and she made such a good comment. She was like, you know, I was always like a late arrival, and I feel like I was a little bit of a late arrival. I feel that way. I know that sounds weird, but sometimes I feel like that. I feel like I was, I don't know, I was a late arrival. I had mean girls in college, and I don't know. I was a late arrival. Like I had mean girls in college and I don't know. I just, I always felt like a little bit late to the game, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:30 but I don't really feel late to the game anymore. Yeah. Late arrival. How, as you get older and you age, someone especially who model what is your approach on uh on how how much do you stress beauty you know the beauty industry skin care plastic surgery what are your thoughts on that for for um for the ladies listening yeah no i love, I love beauty. Listen, I love skincare and all that. I mean, I started a podcast about it and a site about it.
Starting point is 00:58:07 I am very much to each his own. I would hope to still look like myself in 10 or 15 years, which I feel like people have taken the injections and the fillers and the surgeries to a very crazy level. For me, like, you know I back to my modeling days I've always liked more of a natural undone look I don't you know again but that's not to say that I
Starting point is 00:58:35 won't do plastic surgery or don't do but I do Botox like I don't I have no problem saying what I do and how hard I have to work or exercise or, but I do think there is a moment where it has gotten fucking crazy with the amount of, of surgery that has started at such a young age. And these women feel like, I mean, they're getting full on brow lifts in their twenties. Like, I mean, they're, they're getting threat I mean it's it's crazy again to each his own but I think it's uh we're not just talking about people getting a boob job or a nose job it's like it's insane as a parent what are you going to teach your kids about beauty or your daughter especially as she becomes a young adult adult. And the expectations of letting her be her own person
Starting point is 00:59:28 versus giving her the confidence to not necessarily buckle to the pressure of society and social media. There's a good chance her daughter, you being her mom, she might have a bit of a following at an earlier age and that can complicate. No, she will not. She won't have social media? I'm not saying she won't have social media.
Starting point is 00:59:53 She won't have social media till very, very, very late if she does. What's very late? I don't even know. I think it's crazy. I mean, I look at these girls and they're 15 and they're 16 and they're naturally very, very thin. And they're beautiful bodies. And they were like, I cannot believe I don't have a big butt.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Big butt. Like, it is crazy. It's crazy. And they're gorgeous. Like, I don't know. It frightens me on a deep level of what I'm going to have to deal with. Cause Scarlett is, is she is a beautiful little girl.
Starting point is 01:00:29 How do you balance, um, social media with them? Well, yeah, because you know, like for example, before social,
Starting point is 01:00:36 when I was a kid, like I wasn't allowed to watch rated R movies. Right. Right. But I still found a way sometimes because it's just about finding the friends who parents don't give as much as a shit or they just have different rules. So it's even harder these days with it's just everywhere. So how do you balance restricting your kid from doing things without kind of being the overzealous parent who won't let them do anything and they counter that by doing everything doing
Starting point is 01:01:06 everything is a rebellion to rebel against i mean i i think there's a happy it's terrifying and i mean you'll have to deal with it too i i i i don't know because i can tend to go you know i can be the over you know protective helicopter mom where i literally have to take it back just in my own like you know own anxieties like my own anxieties I I don't know I I hope I can balance it I hope that I think a child's friends are everything I think at one point your friends have much more a child's friends are everything. I think at one point your friends have much more control or lack of control over your child than you do. And I think trying your best to set them up with a good group. And that's why I think sports are so important. Also, sports are so good, especially, later in life, just with business, being on a team you know you know being with you know
Starting point is 01:02:07 I always say if people want to make it like hire smarter people than you and build a better team like you know don't be such a narcissist where you have to control everything and like that's the worst thing you can do and I think sports really does teach you that like maybe you want to do it as a single person but what's good for the team you know what i mean and that's and that's business i don't know social media is it truly truly scares me and i mean that it scares me on so many levels but same yeah just what they see you know like just casually scrolling you know what i mean like yeah i mean you if your kid like found a phone on tiktok and scrolled through a week his point of view on life might drastically be different days later and you know and then you have to be careful not to judge because all you know every parent come you know every child comes from a different situation they're divorced and they have a they need a
Starting point is 01:02:58 phone because their parents are you know not speaking and they need to talk to the child like there's so many things you don't think of. I kind of like them young. I'm not gonna. The kids. Is it small children, small problems? Something like that. Big children, big problems. Do you have a favorite?
Starting point is 01:03:19 I have a favorite. Whoever I'm with at the moment is my favorite. That's a good answer. Thank you. You know, it's weird because you think when you have a baby, you're like, at the moment is my favorite. That's a good answer. Thank you. You know, it's weird, because you think when you have a baby, you're like, how the fuck am I gonna love this one as much as I do?
Starting point is 01:03:30 And as a mom, especially, because you have such mom guilt right when they come out, like, it's just like, you just like, you just like take a shot of it. I was like, my worry, like, how am I gonna love, you know, Scarlett as much as I love Brooks? And then like, how am I gonna love Scarlett as much as I love Brooks? And then like, how am I gonna love Gray?
Starting point is 01:03:48 I mean, Gray's a fucking animal. I don't even know he's gonna like be in jail. But how am I gonna love Gray as much as I love the other two? It's weird. You just do. I appreciate it. I think that's an honest answer
Starting point is 01:04:02 you don't hear from a lot of people. I know. The fear of loving your kid as much as you love. Yeah. And I, you know, women have this
Starting point is 01:04:11 and I know it's true and I've taught, I know, like, I have severe mom guilt. Like, when I'm an awesome mom, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:04:20 oh, fuck, I suck at work. But I'm like crushing it. I crushed something last week. Crushed. Big pitch. Got it. I was like, I'm at work. But I'm like crushing it. I crushed something last week. Crushed. Big pitch. Got it.
Starting point is 01:04:27 I was like, I'm a shitty mom. What do you feel more pride in? Knocking out a scene in a movie or a mom moment? I love a good mom moment. But there's nothing better than crushing it too. Let me tell you. I love a good crush. You know when you got it.
Starting point is 01:04:44 You know when you prepped. We pitched this book the other day boom like it was good it was uh it was good oh you want to play a little game with us before we let you go let's do it super easy it's called do you know me oh brooke mahan yes that's how we met yeah you should have known this how we met i love me some brooke Mahan and I love me some Mike Mahan. Mike and I talk sports a lot. Mike is phenomenal. Mike is great. He's up at six.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Yeah. He's specific. I can tell you what he eats. He's a phenomenal man. We have a lot in common. I love him. Yeah. I love you too, Brooke.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I can tell you what he eats too because I used to work for him. Is that funny? I recently was on vacation with them and she stayed with her younger one and he ended up coming with Stuber and I and we just like, I was like, I could be married to her husband.
Starting point is 01:05:31 He's predictable. You know, he's like, he's just, he's awesome. He is obsessed with baseball cards. He's going to own them. Literally, he's going to, he's awesome. Yeah, we nerd out together. Yeah, it's good. I'm like, your nerdy is going to pay off we nerd out together yeah it's good i'm like your nerdy is gonna pay off i'm like yeah it's good do you know me with molly sims question number one
Starting point is 01:05:51 can molly play an instrument and to be clear this doesn't mean you took piano lessons in the third grade but like can you currently play an? Can you at a party flex an instrument? I'm going to say no. So are you good at playing? No, play. Unless you're flexing. All right. So you don't have to be good,
Starting point is 01:06:14 but like, could you play? Yeah. Can you pick up an instrument today of any kind and someone be like, not bad. I'm going to say no. I think you can sing, but not play an instrument well count singing well count singing okay you can play the vocal chords i'm gonna still say no i'm gonna say no but i would love it if she was just like yeah i could play a french horn yeah right mandolin
Starting point is 01:06:36 fucking violin i think it would be like a random instrument it's so funny my husband i cannot play and it's like my husband is trying to teach my son guitar because he was in college. He went to U of A and there was, he like would pretend like dirt bags was the dry cleaners, but it was a bar. And some kid just like ripped it on the guitar, the piano. I can't even remember. And he was like, and all the girls went fucking nuts.
Starting point is 01:06:59 He was like, kid, you gotta. Accent, guitars. Totally. Take either of those away from a guy, not as hot. Not as hot. Guitar, totally hot. Totally. An accent, totally hot.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Totally hot. I love a British accent. I really do. And someone who can like play piano. That's true. That would be like Chris Martin, hot, grungy. Yeah. No, it'd be great if I did both.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Do you play an instrument? No, I took violin and piano lessons as a kid. So did I. Progressively got worse. You have a TikTok of you playing a guitar. I think I did the flute for a moment. I do. I think I had a flute experience in the band
Starting point is 01:07:34 because it was silver. Even just like carrying the instrument, I thought I was cool. Like it was, I don't know. Yeah, that was, I'm so not music. I can't even really sing, to be honest with you. No judgment. Question number two.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Has Molly ever been sent to the principal's office? I'm not sure about this one. I think you have a fiery side, but I think as a young person, you are more of a rule follower. And the fiery side maybe came out in your young adult life. So I'm going to say no. I'm going to say if so, it was sport related, but she did grow up in like,
Starting point is 01:08:17 she said she grew up in like another Christian household following the rules too. So I'd be surprised. I think once at a very young age. It also could be something random. Once at a very young age, fourth grade, very young age fourth grade mrs carneal i changed an answer and i know this is good i know it's gonna sound weird but it affected me for the rest of my life they made such a big deal about it they almost expelled me i'm not joking because like you changed the answer when you're self-correcting your test like yeah i had to go literally see someone
Starting point is 01:08:45 because it like like i don't even know whatever my parents almost left the school over it they treated me terrible they ended up apologizing but yes i got sent to the principal and guess what i never cheated ever like you know when everyone was like in high school like doing paper no not me because of that moment it was awful i was like crying wow okay that was deep it's got heavy that just got like a whole session that was like a whole that was like that was a really do you want to talk about it i don't but it affected me deeply people it affected me deeply question number three has molly ever thrown up in public well the first question is really is she a thrower upper or is she a black outer when it comes to drinking because if she has thrown up in public it will most likely have been through alcohol i see i was going to say the
Starting point is 01:09:36 first question is this are we going to say this is alcohol doesn't have to be in general like for example i ran track and i threw up after say like morning sickness. After every race. So I've thrown up literally hundreds of times in public. Unalcohol related. But that's just me. I have thrown up outside of Bristol Farms on my third pregnancy. I walked in. Oh, pregnant.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Yeah. There you go. I said morning sickness. And I actually threw up on all my babies. But yes, Adam Scheer, Enrique Marciano had to take me out. I'd never, I was in like early 2000. I had never had like apple martinis or anything like that. And I crushed like six of them and they got me out and I threw up on a building and then
Starting point is 01:10:20 laid in my apartment. So a hard yes. It was a hard yes. Apple martinis. So gross. Has Molly. Never had one yes. It was a hard yes. It was hard too. So gross. Has Molly Never had one since. ever been on a blind date?
Starting point is 01:10:30 Yes. Reluctantly. Reluctantly. I think you've been like set up before, but I don't think it's been blind. I think you've done research. What's defined blind date? I think
Starting point is 01:10:40 Set up is a blind date. Yeah, but like I think you've like known I think you've like known something about the person done some kind of verification. Yeah. I think it's insane. Total insanity to like go on what is considered like a true blind date where like,
Starting point is 01:10:57 Hey, trust me on this. No Google, nothing. And just show up to this place. And this absolute stranger will also show up and I'm going to tell you the name, but nothing else. I think that's fucking insane. But that's just me.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Well, fine. We'll audit it. Has Molly ever been set up? I have been. I have been set up. I was set up with Aaron Eckhart. I was. I was.
Starting point is 01:11:20 It was kind of a blind date because I didn't really know him. But there you go. He seems like he's so nice. He is nice. He's a good guy. He's a fantastic actor. Great hair. Great hair.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Great. Has Molly ever hooked up with someone 10 years older than her? Yes. 10 years older? No. Oh, yeah. For sure. I was engaged to him.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Yeah. Yeah. Forgot about that. Yeah, I was engaged to a French man. Like I said, for sure. That's for sure.. Yeah. Yeah. Forgot about that. Yeah, I was engaged to a French man. Like I said, for sure. That's for sure. A 100%. That was 100%.
Starting point is 01:11:49 A French man. Nice step on. Yeah, for sure. 100%. All right. And final question. Has Molly ever left a bad review on Yelp? No.
Starting point is 01:11:58 She's too busy. Yes. Yeah. After the coach story, I'm like, if you are wrong, you are going to vocalize it. A good mom one. It's got to be good. I don't think I have. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:12:08 I don't think I have. There's a difference between yelling at your coach's kid and then going on Yelp on the internet and then putting up a profile and leaving a review for other strangers to read. I feel like that's different when it's talking about moms, though, because moms will go on to mom things and write reviews for other people's children. Literally. So I feel like that's different when it's talking about moms, though, because moms will go on to mom things and write reviews for other people's children. Literally. I feel like it's different. One of my friends wrote a review about their restaurant and like and they wrote it so specifically that they knew who it was who wrote it.
Starting point is 01:12:36 I'm like, what? What are you doing? But yes, no, I've never taken the time to write a review on Yelp. I should, though. Just like. I don't know if you should. Just like bust one out. I do like. Yeah. I should though. Just like bust one. I don't know if you should. Just like bust one out. I do like,
Starting point is 01:12:47 yeah. I, yeah. I was going to say my pet peeves. Yeah. No. Well, Molly, this has been a ton of fun.
Starting point is 01:12:54 I feel like we could do this for hours. We got it good. Let the people know you got a podcast out. You're also doing a bunch of other things. Let them know where they can digest and enjoy all the things you're putting out there.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Yeah. It's called Lipstick on the Rim with Molly Sims, mollysims.com if you're just dying for those beauty tips and experts and all things beauty, wellness. Good bet, a lot of people listening. It's a really, honestly, it's really good. It's my best girlfriend and I, I met her like 17 years ago. Basically it's girl talk. We're really truthful
Starting point is 01:13:27 and honest and transparent and authentic. And we give you the goods, we give you the bads, talk about dating, we have a great sexologist. You've got to have her on. Shanna Boodram, do you know her? She's beautiful. Yes, we've had her on this podcast. Yeah, she's awesome. Yeah, it's been fun. I wasn't sure I was going to be good for the medium, but I like it. I clearly like to talk, so I think I could do it. I think you're going to be fine.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Well, check it out. Thanks for listening, guys. I hope you enjoyed this episode. Don't forget to send in your questions at asknickatcastmedia.com, cast with a K. And if there's nothing else, we will see you back on Monday.

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