The Viall Files - E300 Missi Pyle - Sex & Life While Talking “Sex/Life”

Episode Date: August 4, 2021

Sex, Infidelity, Fantasy, Marriage, and Netflix! That is right, today on our 300th episode Nick and guest, Missi Pyle, take the time to break down the popular Netflix series Sex/Life. You may know Mis...si from Gone Girl, Dodgeball, Galaxy Quest and long list of other fan favorite films. She came to us right off of a film set working with the same prosthetics team as Sex/Life’s and Missi helps us answer our big questions! Missi also gives a perspective on marriage and radical honesty based on her relationships. Nick and Missi examine fantasy with your partners, how far is too far, and discuss how the show dramatizes the parts of a relationship we are all a little scared to talk about but that truly exist in reality. “Do you cast someone based specifically on junk?” Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@kastmedia.com to be a part of our Monday episodes.  For merch please visit www.viallfiles.com today! THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Cameo: http://www.cameo.com request a personalized video, and whichever star you choose will send you back a personalized video so you can “WOW” the ones you love. So, don’t just buy a gift, make a Cameo! Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @missipyle See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:28 so you can wow the ones you love. So don't just buy a gift, make a Cameo. Go to Cameo.com. What's going on everybody welcome back to another episode of the vile files and it's our 300th big applause for everyone we did it we made it to 300 um it's gone fast thanks for listening guys i can't thank you guys enough it's all downhill from here well we got balloons at least yeah natalie natalie got your favorite coffee from chicago uh she did and balloon my favorite my favorite thing about natalie this morning is that you asked where she was going and
Starting point is 00:01:26 instead of ruining the surprise she said she was gonna go get her lip waxed i was like she also hid your keys on you this morning which i don't know how she hid your keys on purpose why did she hide my keys because she didn't want you to come so she figured if she couldn't find them she she could call she would call her and be like, hey, have you seen my keys? And then she would know where they were. But what do you mean she didn't want me to come? Like on time? Because she wanted to make sure the delivery.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Because we were coordinating the delivery of the balloons and all this stuff. And she wanted to make sure it was all in place. She hid my keys on purpose? She did. Well, because you can see. I have a security system in my door so you can see people go in and i know we know when you were leaving and then i get this text from natalie after i grab my spare keys be like oh they're in she told me where they were i'm like oh my she's so in tune she's like
Starting point is 00:02:18 watching me all while getting her lip waxed which i I actually thought, I didn't even realize that's what she wasn't doing. It was a good vibe. She was getting all this stuff. Also, I just thought she was getting her lip waxed, which my response was,
Starting point is 00:02:40 oh, cool. Yeah. That's what she said it was and I thought it was brilliant. But my response was that? Which is like, yeah, cool. All right, cool, babe. Yeah. That's what she said it was. And I thought it was brilliant. But my response was that? Which is like, yeah, cool. All right, cool, babe. Yeah, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Hey, whatever you got to do. Self-care. Yeah. No shame. We're not made perfect. God, she's a good liar. Straight face. It's always scary.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Does that worry you? Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah. Between her accents and her ability to lie who knows who natalie actually is she i found out she when she talks to her family members a lot which is great and then sometimes she'll step outside when she talks to her sister and i recently found out why is because her and her sister talking like uh like old school like southern voices like deep georgia
Starting point is 00:03:31 yeah like they talk like a bunch like a two like you know old do an impression i can't i can't i was like i was looking at her and i was making dinner and I was like, who the fuck are you talking to? Are you auditioning? Anyway, what a goofy gal. Goofy gal. I do think she is very talented. I think she could be anything she wanted,
Starting point is 00:04:02 but I probably think she could be a good actor if she wanted to. And yes, it is sometimes. I'm glad we have a lot of trust because otherwise I would be a little worried. Anyway, well, we have a great episode for you. Number 300. We thought it would be fun to keep it light and fun after some more introspective episodes and uh obviously the show sex life has been on netflix and uh very well i don't know how relatable it is but uh very in tune with a lot of things we talk about in a very dramatized way as it relates to marriage and infidelity
Starting point is 00:04:38 and fantasies and spicing things up and relationships so we thought we'd just have a fun chat and uh no better person to have that with than the very wonderful, delightful, and funny Missy Pyle. And she joins us today to just shoot the breeze on sex life. And it's a pretty funny episode. So I hope you guys all enjoy it. But most importantly, again, just can't thank you guys enough for being with us these 300 episodes. It is really surreal that we have done that. And so far, the lights are still on, hopefully for much longer. And hopefully we continue to grow this show. So again, always appreciate you guys' support and all you guys' things that you do in terms of voting for us and sharing it on your social media stories and telling your
Starting point is 00:05:25 friends. It always means a lot when people come up to me and talk about how they tell other friends about this podcast. So some serious thank yous to everyone listening and hopefully 300 more to come. So thank you so much. We will be back, obviously, on Monday with our Ask Nick's, recapping The Bachelor next week and many, many more to come. And with that said, let's get to Missy Pyle and sex life. Missy, thanks so much for coming. Thanks, Nick.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Happy 300th. I know it doesn't really mean anything. I'm so proud of myself. I started this podcast and I thought if I make it to 300, I have one guest in mind. I started this podcast and I thought if I make it to 300, then you're going to bring Missy Pyle. I have one guest in mind and it's Missy. No, but seriously, I've been watching you for years.
Starting point is 00:06:13 You're wonderful. Some of my favorite, Dodgeball, some of my favorite movies. How have you been? I've been great. I've been great. Just, you know, been in Canada. I was working on a show. Trying not to get COVID.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Feeling COVID safe. That's great. How are you, Chrissy? I'm great. As I just unmute myself from my coffee. Sorry, I didn't mean to throw you the shit, but I was like, I doesn't remember there's barely we didn't like have a conversation really we just met like hey how's it going yeah yeah you know nevertheless it's great to have you at least he was nice to you most people get that standoffish vibe so i like that you had like a nice encounter
Starting point is 00:07:01 great anything else should we just get it out? Am I mean to everybody? Well, you tell me that. I just get insecure and in my head. That's all. Who doesn't? I mean, we all do. Right?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Yeah. I know I do. Do you like to keep it on your nose? Does that make it? Well, yes. Does it make you feel better? Give your nose a break. I hide behind the mic. I love Missy so much.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I love you too. Well, anyway, we were talking about how we should do this episode and then Sex Life came out and then we wanted to chitty chat about it since my audience is an audience that likes it would be drawn to a show about relationship sex marriage infidelity and that i feel like sex life after just binging it it really is like pretty normal it's a pretty normal way that people go about life kind of in their relation i think in their relation documentary it is a documentary uh thank
Starting point is 00:08:08 you that's true it's like uh docu-series like i always get asked about the show um unreal as it relates to the bachelor and i feel like sex life is a a dramatization documentary on life yeah like unreal is about the bachelor right because most people after they if you're a female this is most women after they um are in a relationship with a guy who owns a record label um they end up with a guy who's like lives in connecticut in a mansion yeah and then they have two children and then... Still not good enough. It's not good enough. I mean, you know, it's...
Starting point is 00:08:50 And so I grew up in Connecticut, I would say that's accurate. I do think, I mean, I think obviously, you know, once you have children with somebody, it can be... Hard. It can be harder.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I have one child. I have one child. But my child was adopted. She did not come from my loins. Nick. Yes. And I adopted her by myself. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Yeah. How long have you been adopted? How long have you been a mom? She's almost six. She's almost six. Oh, that's amazing. But I just think it's amazing. I think that show is amazing. You liked it. How long have you been a mom? She's almost six. She's almost six. But I just think it's amazing. I think that show is amazing. You liked it.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I mean, so, okay. I heard about it because it shoots in Toronto. And I was shooting in Toronto. And I had to wear a prosthetic. And the show that I was working on, my character, had a mastectomy.omy So they made a full piece of my like they made a mold of my chest And then I cut one of them and the woman was like we worked on this show called sex life And I was like, oh really and they were saying yeah that cuz the woman who stars in it When she's when she's got the baby, she has a chest, a fake chest,
Starting point is 00:10:06 because she's obviously lactating. And then when she's not, when she's in the flashbacks, it's her own chest. Really? So she wears a piece. Huh. How about that?
Starting point is 00:10:16 How about that little tidbit? Did you guys notice? Did anyone else? Did we notice a difference in her chest? I will tell you when I noticed. I think it was when... Did you watch? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Okay. So I think it was like episode four or five. I can't remember. Whenever her husband's like, let's go to the guy's house who's got the thing, the pool, and she takes her clothes off, you can tell they're just like...
Starting point is 00:10:43 Because they also don't really move from personal experience. And they're kind of glossy. You'll see. And because they have to do your whole chest anyway, like you have to cover your own and then they put it on top so they do a whole piece. So you can tell too, like her stomach is a little funny. So it goes around your neck?
Starting point is 00:11:03 It goes like up here and down. So I guess since we're on the topic of prosthetics, the real big question everyone wants to know. The big question? The big question. The long question on everyone's mind. Girthy question. Is it real or is it a prosthetic?
Starting point is 00:11:22 I have to believe that there's no way that that's real. But you don't know for sure? I don't know for sure. I kind of want to say that I remember somebody saying something about it, but I don't know for sure. And when I deduce, when I use my intuition, my woman's intuition, I think that there's no way that you would just cast somebody and be like this is gonna or be like oh this is gonna work in this scene yeah don't worry about this be great
Starting point is 00:11:53 i mean for it to kind of they wrote it in yeah i mean they could have written it in because he just happened to have so they released the script for the penis scene and they were like no it was already there before um they put it on their twitter and they were like it was already there before we even casted the guy yeah so in the script it was like he turns around and he can't but help notice that he has and i i found this interesting they referred it to as a huge junk a huge junk which do women refer to men's penis as junk i don't i don't know if we might be slightly women right who wrote who wrote sex life is it's a woman yeah it's a woman yeah it's all i think and i think all all the episodes are written by women right so um but i heard it was a junk and junk. But anyways, that was in there that it was extremely large.
Starting point is 00:12:46 So that was a moment she wanted. But to your point, yeah. Like, do you cast someone specifically based off of... Junk? Junk. I mean... Or... Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:56 The blue eyes. The blue eyes and the hair and the British. Don't I know? I don't know. Did you... I found my... Did we think he's hot? Like he now i it got he got annoying to me after a while like objectively i i found him to be like you know clarity is a really good
Starting point is 00:13:13 looking guy but the the scenes of him being him and kind of shitty and And then the Australian accent, like it kind of wore on me. I mean, let's be honest. The whole show kind of wears on you. And then you think to yourself, well, that's, well, they went there.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I mean, the idea that by the time it's done, you're just like, they're fingering each other again. I mean, I, I have to like,
Starting point is 00:13:44 there were one there's one episode that a couple episodes i didn't get chance to watch so i just read the transcript and i was like he took her back to a place and she has a flashback of the restaurant where he fingered her what the fuck am i reading what am i watching well and the best part with that is in the episode for some reason he's like shall we put in for a souffle and then like starts fingering her while they're waiting on a souffle and then they go back to the restaurant they sit on the same couch and he's like a souffle like souffle somehow becomes this like key word in their sex life and i'm like maybe it's their safe word i mean like i feel like
Starting point is 00:14:23 fingering doesn't happen that much in real life. Well, the idea that like, when they go see the mom and he's in the elevator and she's like, I'm nervous. He's like, let me calm you down. You have 18 floors to go. You're about to meet my mom. Let me finger you in an elevator. Yeah, that wouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Well, that was the whole time. Like, I'm watching it as a guy wondering and then natalie my girlfriend like you know found him to be attractive and i was more i was watching her watching right the show kind of was curious and i'm thinking in a lot of ways i'm nothing like this guy and i don't know if that's a good or bad thing because a lot of it was cheesy it is written by women so i'm wondering is this stuff kind of hot this like over the top like the the the subway scene where he's like i'm dangerous and he takes her down that was amazing we liked that would we would we want to date a guy my weed to like it is there anyone who could get you to jump on first of all i heard that like
Starting point is 00:15:25 those if you touch the one of those tracks there's like 5 000 volts of electricity that'll kill you that might be that's right i don't know i've also heard that i feel like it's one of those like if you pee in a pool it will turn blue wise tales remember that in the kid in high school yeah it's gonna turn blue oh, everybody Nick peed. But could you imagine, think about it. Could you imagine having something that's not barricaded? I've been in New York plenty of times. I've never seen a sign that says, this shit will fry your ass or some version of that.
Starting point is 00:15:57 And you can't imagine that someone might go down and simply just touching it at any moment. They would turn into like a cooked cockroach. I feel like that would be, you would want a warning sign. Electricity is not on the tracks, right? It's on the thing above. I don't know what it is. I'm just saying, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I don't know. In Boston, there are signs that say warning, like high voltage on the track. There are. I've never seen one in New York. I feel like somebody should Google this shit. Well, if you're not a planner, like many of us guys aren't,
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Starting point is 00:17:57 So don't just buy a gift. Make a Cameo. Go to Cameo.com. I just think if somebody, if a guy did that, I don't care how good he was at fingering. Fingering. I mean, literally, I've never in my life, in all the movies I've ever seen, I've never seen so much as it happens in like one episode of this show. It's just such a weird word, too.
Starting point is 00:18:22 It just feels like you got a lot of dirt under your fingernails. I don't know. To me, it's just such a weird word too it just feels like you got a lot of dirt under your fingernails i don't know to me it's just i had a history teacher who when he was taught he was talking about the chinese government at one period in history and he was like you know they could the government could finger anyone at any time and even as like accused and imprisoned but he kept saying finger as a bird that That would be traumatizing. I feel like, I don't know how you made it out of there. I don't know how the Chinese people make it out of there.
Starting point is 00:18:50 What's interesting about all that is that that was something she would remember. You know, it's one of those things for it to happen and like have a good time, but that's what you think about it. That's what she was fantasizing about. Here she is married.
Starting point is 00:19:05 They're letting you know her husband's awesome. They're just like, he's great. He's great. She's telling you this through her point of view. And she's always in that white house dress. Yes. Just in that. There's never a stain on it, which is not,
Starting point is 00:19:22 I mean, no parent of a baby and a toddler. And the children. I'm sorry. Just one more thing. That's why you're here. The kids, that baby is always in, first of all, there's no baby in there. Everyone who's watching at home should know there's no real baby in there, except for the one time they lift it up.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Everywhere she goes, she just covers the baby, and the baby's never like, mom! she like everywhere she goes she like just covers the baby and the baby's never like the baby's just and her kids at home are just like mommy i mean it's children not that's not what children are like they scream at you they throw things at you they hit you they spit at you if they vomit on you like anyway just had to throw that in there. And then White House, that's perfectly, anyway. But to your point, yeah. So she has this, do we know what the, I'm sure the person who wrote it, like what, other than it just being entertaining and a fun watch or a tantalizing watch,
Starting point is 00:20:19 was there, and maybe not, was there a goal or a theme of the writer or a message they were trying to convey? Because it kind of felt like there was at the end, especially like the end, which I hated, but it was more like, fuck it, just... Just fuck me. Just fuck me. You know what? After all that, like they put us through... It was...
Starting point is 00:20:40 Have you watched Handmaids? I've watched the first three seasons and then i couldn't it's a tough watch i couldn't i was like i have to see another woman yeah it's a yeah it's a it's a seared off it's it's it's torture for the audience is kind of why i asked the question there was one point in handmaids where they they even apologize in like a condescending way to the viewer like the storyteller like i know this has been hard for you and it's just like you you wrote it and yeah it's very but like in a lot of ways much lighter and it was a tough watch especially you know if you're watching it as a couple married or not to just be like do you look at your partner and the the constant question you ask yourself is is this just a dramatized show
Starting point is 00:21:26 or are some do you have thoughts like these are these real insecurities and thoughts that you have to the point where sometimes it's a little hard to watch over and over the back and forth she's so back and forth over and over i love my he's the greatest i'll never leave him i can't stop thinking about him i'm gonna leave i'm. I'm not going to leave you. And then at the end of all this, she just wants a quick fix. And I'm just thinking, couldn't you have just,
Starting point is 00:21:52 if you were just going to cheat on him. I mean, really, it should have happened. Right off the bat. Yeah, like just do it. Just do it. Do it. Put a password protect to your computer,
Starting point is 00:22:02 by the way. What the fuck? I'm sorry. Like, I don't know. What was your first cat in high school well and instead of like password protecting it the one episode where she's like i'm gonna save it under my thanksgiving recipes like okay you'll never look there well she also put it in an in a file in a file have you guys ever written like
Starting point is 00:22:28 do you do like diaries do women write fantasies in their diaries is that a thing or is that I've done it I walked in the room or reminiscing I can feel the sweat or or reminiscing feel the sweat also how
Starting point is 00:22:45 my back do asking Chrissy do you guys reminisce about any sexual past 100% you do 100% you do you guys have like a top three 100 yes yeah come on
Starting point is 00:23:01 I mean I've not I've lived a lot longer than you two have I don't know about you but I've yeah for sure for sure I've definitely there's definitely yeah and are those people who are just kind of
Starting point is 00:23:18 great and bad but toxic like why did it end and why did you know it's almost more why does anything end for a lot of different reasons why we're here it's like 300 yeah i mean everyone is in a relationship that i mean like unless you die with the person every relationship you've ever had is going to fail i've been saying this the whole time you know you only have the most relationships you can ever have that don't end as one. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Right. And I mean, seven years is like, that's, I mean, I don't know. Maybe this, and it is written by a woman. The Fifty Shades of Grey was written by a woman. Yeah. Right. So I think it, I mean, it's obviously lady porn because it's all about fingering. Just kidding.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Sorry. I can't, that word is so good. But I mean, fingering with Missy Pyle. I just also don't think that people finger that much. I don't either. I mean, Nick, you're a guy. I don't know if that's a big deal for you, but I just feel like in my sex life,
Starting point is 00:24:16 fingering isn't what I'm looking forward to. Do you mean in public though? Do I finger because I get turned? That's like suggesting women give hand jobs for themselves. That's what I'm saying. I think girls I get turned? That's like suggesting women give handjobs for themselves. That's what I'm saying. I think girls can give themselves handjobs better. I think if you're at a table with someone and there's something sexy about,
Starting point is 00:24:38 especially if you're not supposed to be, if you're with people and somebody kind of puts their hand somewhere that is inappropriate. I mean, that's sexy. that's sexy for every for both parties if either one who's doing it but like a full-on before you meet mom yeah no i gotta quit is it is it sexy always in the beginning of a relationship or is it just sexy the first time like a lot of that stuff roadhead sex in public was things that at least for myself were like on a list of things that i wanted to accomplish in my early 20s right as a guy you're just like you hear about it or maybe you watch a movie and you're just like oh that would be so hot. And most of those things, in my experience, you found to be like more of the novelty.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And then as you get older, you're just like, I mean, it's like, should I give you head on the road? I'm like, you know, we're like five minutes away from home. You know, like. I also feel like, and I don't know about. Or am I just getting boring? I don't know. Okay, and here's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Remember when like he calls and he's like, do you want to watch me? Do you want to watch me fuck your friends or whatever it is what he said and she's just like sitting there and of course starts mad I mean just hilarious it's so ridiculous um and he's I mean everyone's masturbating her finger oh god there's so much to deal with so much you need like 300 episodes just to unpack this show but the and then and then she's like I watched she goes to see her friend that's at work and it's like I watched you and I was like where did they set the phone up so that they could watch the whole thing who's just gonna fuck in the doorway and what woman can have an orgasm that fast in a door I mean you kind of for me that's the same
Starting point is 00:26:21 thing about like why are we gonna fuck in the car have about like, why are we going to fuck in the car or have it? Like, I'd like to go to a bed and get my body into the position where I know I can, it'll feel good. You know, like if we do that, like we're in the pool, like there's water and I mean, it's just confusing. People don't, I mean, maybe if you're, if you've been, I don't know, watching, I don't know, maybe, I don't know how you come that quickly or anything. Did they not move around?
Starting point is 00:26:48 They just stood there in the door for... I just couldn't believe this. I couldn't believe it. Okay. So it's... And then I was excited to watch the next episode. Well, because it's like, we came in so hot with this show like right pilot episode already so much is happening so it's like they had to like keep building to keep you hooked in like
Starting point is 00:27:13 that was what episode four yeah it's like that was not the finale that was halfway through that would be most people's to season two finale yeah but to Nick's point those things that you get excited about you want to check them off your list when you're young then I feel like once you get into a new relationship it's kind of like the checklist starts over again no I don't know that's my question I don't like I feel like when you get into a new relationship you like you want to test the boundaries to see how far you can go will they fuck me in an elevator will they touch me under a table like I feel like those things come up again because you want to try and figure out like where the boundaries are in that new relationship well that's as a guy i'm not so sure but i'm wondering for women is is that the
Starting point is 00:27:56 case do you want to like well if you're not certain maybe you're not five minutes oh the death on the subway i mean but if you're not five minutes from the hotel like maybe the car is the only maybe the car is where you can get some privacy yeah you don't know and maybe it's if it's not even maybe it's just like a well it's also weird one of those things i've i had you know the alleyway sex once you know, alleyway sex once, you know, like after, I don't know what you call it, but it was sex in an alley after bar time. I think that's the technical term. It was kind of cool in a situation where we are hanging out for a while and we were friends and we went out and like,
Starting point is 00:28:38 we didn't know where to go and it just kind of happened. I guess it was hot, but the sex itself, when you think about it, is never as good and so it's really just about where it's all about the situation and very and none of it is about the sex like roadhead it's objectively not that good i first of all like you're like i don't really know because i've never the dashboard in the middle it's oh you know it's and then you're as a driver i don't find it to be particularly enjoying there's also there was a girl uh there was a guy and a girl that I went to high school with and he like really wanted to you know try it and so I it spread like wildfire this story of what happened because she was like great I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:29:20 give him road head it's gonna be great and then he tapped the brakes. Her gag reflex was triggered and she yacked all over the front seat. It's dangerous. I look at it as a challenge. Can I get them to pull over? They're not. Well, there you go. Or run into something. It's a challenge.
Starting point is 00:29:39 You get a concussion and they have a problem. It's like, look how we got that concussion. That was fun. No, I'm just kidding. Oh, my God. Now, one thing I do like about the show that I do think is realistic, and I think it's probably what the show touches on the most,
Starting point is 00:29:56 is if you have the fantasy, the dream, the marriage, and when I mean fantasy, I don't mean the getting fingered and remembering the Australian guy who has like a 20 million dollar penthouse like right that place he has in new york it was crazy like at least maybe 20 million in the 90s yes it was ridiculous but her marriage was picturesque as you said like the white picket fences. And he's good looking. A closet full of white house dresses. Yeah, he's great. In a marriage that lasts forever or seven years,
Starting point is 00:30:34 life can get stale. Right. And it is okay to know your partner has fantasies. Like if you're married and you caught your wife, if she was hiding her stories underneath the cookbook is that cheating do do you can you is is knowing too much a bad thing like if you were inside your partner's head and having them think about things do you want to know because that's really what the show kind of touches on is like how much is too much knowledge and how does that affect your relationship well why don't they just be in an
Starting point is 00:31:11 ethically non-monogamous relationship is that that's like open and um i mean you know ethically non-monogamous yeah like i mean i don't know to me i mean then you have no show i guess because you have the jealousy and the this and the that. But minus the show. But people in a marriage, you still, you check people out whether you admit it or not. You might fantasize about someone. You might. Well, I have a friend who's very, very honest with her partner. She's like, I had a dream about someone last night.
Starting point is 00:31:39 And she'll even cry and be like, oh my. And he's like, I love that you told me that. And then they'll have sex. I mean, you know, they're. I'm kind of into that. Yeah. Like they're so honest with each other they tell each other I think and to me I actually think that is the only way to keep a relationship is to continually be completely like radically honest with where you are and what and I can get through anything if you are radically honest but I think there always comes a point at least for me in a relationship where and you try and then you you loot you it's like a there's a you know you can
Starting point is 00:32:12 kind of there's a the drain is clogged and then you can fix it and whatever and then and then everything's fine again but then one thing happens you can never get that drain unclogged neck friends and then it just starts to build up and build up and build up and then you kind of find You can never get that drain unclogged, Nick, friends. And then it just starts to build up and build up and build up. And then you kind of find yourself jumping ship or. Yeah, but I feel like it's. When I grew up, I idolized my parents and their marriage. And it was very traditional and very Catholic.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And it was picturesque. And I think whether it's your parents or anyone else or society's point of view you don't you know you don't describe like true love in a rom-com of like you know once in a while i will tell my partner about a fantasy i had about someone else and we will channel that energy of jealousy into like great sex and that's never talked about so if you do that comes and at the hookup at the first kiss and you just you know happily ever after that's not the case but in reality i think that is a that's a normal occurrence with every relationship the only difference is most people don't talk about it and if it does come up if you do have the dream or you were to find your husband or wife's your journal or whatever most people i think would be
Starting point is 00:33:31 at best offended and at worst like we need like are we gonna make it i never imagined my i have i don't have eyes for anyone else kind of mantra. And it's kind of a weird lie. I think we kind of tell ourselves and what we think marriage should be. Yeah. I mean, 100%. But like, yeah. And that's kind of like, I think that's the drain you kind of mentioned where it's just like, I think we have a hard time going. I think we have a hard time going because like once you accept that reality, it's just like,
Starting point is 00:34:07 Oh my God, there's, if you think about what you think about, just assume your partner at a minimum has the same type of thoughts. And there's also like, like shame is the master emotion, right? So it's that darkness.
Starting point is 00:34:19 And we're all like, if we're all a big circle, like your light and your dark, there's just depending on when, like where you are in the day, where you are in your life, like you have light and you have shadow and you kind of want to hide it, you know? And it's sort of like, we all have it. I mean, that's why there's porn. That's why there's all kinds, that's why there's shows like that.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I mean, everybody is, and humans are not necessarily, we're not monogamous beings. Most animals aren't. So it's like we're constantly denying this large part of ourselves to try to be something that we're not but how do we but then we how do we control that though i don't know i think you got to be like what you just said just like be just be honest you can't i mean you can control it you can you know you can just be honest about it you can meditate you can should we try to normalize just telling your partner like i'm not going to but like the idea of having sex with that person turns me on i kind of think so i kind of think so or i don't know and
Starting point is 00:35:20 on the other side of it is you i mean there's a ton of like i worked with someone who's on this And on the other side of it is, I mean, there's a ton of, I worked with someone who's on this website called Field. What's that? It's F-E-E-L, Field, like playing the field. You can have a fake name and you can, there are people who are in relationships and they play alone or with a partner. I mean, it's kind of an open. Is it just the conversations or do they get sex physical?
Starting point is 00:35:48 It's whatever they want. Whatever they want. It's a dating site. It's like a Tinder. Specifically people in relationships? No, it's for anybody, but it is open to people who are in ethically non-monogamous relationships. I mean, you can be like, what are you into? And it can be you know um anything it could be one of the largest open-minded communities online sounds like it's like kink friendly it's totally kink friendly and people and i had to
Starting point is 00:36:15 google all these things i didn't know what enm was or ggg or what is enm ethically non-monogamous and then like bdsm i don't know but dominant submissive like doms and so doms do you like group sex do you want to play with singles or couples or threesomes or swap or whatever i mean it is a real like uh a real community what what was her husband's name what like connor do we oh cooper did we like? Who did we like more? Cooper or what was... What do you mean by like? Brad. Brad.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Brad, yes. Yeah, I mean... Well, who... Yeah, no, who did you like more? Just if you... There are two standing there. Cooper was whiny. He was a little whiny baby.
Starting point is 00:36:59 He has to pick. Yeah, you have to pick. Come home now or don't come home at all. Like, shut the fuck up, Cooper Connelly. Go out with Francesca and have a nice night. Oh, my God. Wait, you found him whiny? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:11 The husband? I found him whiny. What is he supposed to do? Yeah. I don't know. I thought he was fine. I mean, they're both sort of two-dimensional characters. They're not really.
Starting point is 00:37:22 The fact that he goes to dinner and like locks her the other guy goes to dinner with you know and they have that crazy dinner and then she's in the chair just going i mean it's so ridiculous she can't even like keep herself and then she runs to the bathroom he follows her and locks her in there and just oh yeah we if you yeah the the the foursome dinner yeah what did you like that was just dumb right what was what were like i guess it was just for a movie and sasha said it best she was like you want to regain your husband's trust by having us lie to him and like say that we've been dating since paris like she's like none of this makes sense maybe the show should be called sasha said it best instead of but like yeah that's something she is she's supposed to be the hero or the villain who sasha the protagonist yeah the main
Starting point is 00:38:18 character what is her name billy billy is billy supposed to be a hero or a villain because i found her to be aren't we all both a hero or a villain because i found her to be we all both a hero and a villain in our own story yeah but i didn't find her to be a hero at all especially the ending but if you remember the one of the first scenes where her son gets the butterfly and then she's like you have to let it out because it's gonna die in there i feel like that was like a metaphor for the whole season yeah i think that was, and like this film school coming out, but the fact that she's always in that like white outfit when she's at home, it's like,
Starting point is 00:38:49 there's a way that that's a prison to her. So I think the idea is that like a lot of her behavior is like objectively shitty, but that maybe you can empathize and understand why this environment is creating those urges. So it's just the, the establishment of marriage in general. Good question.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I don't, like, what is the she's... Have you ever been married? I have not. But I am a cynic in the sense that what I did like, again, what I liked about the show is that I think it approaches it, I mean, very unrealistically, but realistic in the sense that, like, it is not all, I mean, it's hard to keep the fire going. I mean, it's for, I always feel like when people call in,
Starting point is 00:39:35 I'm just like, I don't, you know, like, want to marry him. And it's just, remember, forever's a really long time. So, like, just make sure you really want to, you know. And literally, like like i mean i reiterate first of all i love that that was just perfect the metaphor the butterfly i don't even know what to say that's so nice um but i again like it is so true like marriage is so much work it requires both people to constantly be checking in with each other about like where are you at what do you how what what do we need to make you feel like you are blossoming in your life
Starting point is 00:40:09 blossoming isn't great but you know what i mean like how are you are you feeling good how do we both feel good together and separately and how do we keep each other you know feeling great or trying to yeah have you ever been you've been married i've been married a couple times yeah and how'd that i moved to montana i married a guy who had a grizzly bear sanctuary and i moved to bought a geodome in montana what are things that you if anything maybe not maybe nothing wish you would have done differently i wish i wouldn't have married a man with a grizzly bear sanctuary yeah just kidding Just kidding. Not kidding. I think I knew both times that there was a fracture in it.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Before going in, looking back. Before getting married, yeah. I knew both relationships were fractured. Did you think that after it ended with the benefit of hindsight or you consciously remember being aware of the fracture? I was aware of the fracture both times. And the second time I really wanted a family. I want to have kids. Like when I got into my 30s,
Starting point is 00:41:13 I was like, oh my God, I really want to have kids. I want to, you know. And that person like seems like really the right person. But there were so many, so many red flag clue phone things that I just chose to ignore because I want I had this idea of who he was and the sex was really good and You know and then the first person like we had a big big fight But I had was I was so in love with him my first husband. I was so in love with him, my first husband. I was so in love, like just hook, line, and fucking sinker in love with him
Starting point is 00:41:49 that I thought, well, we can work through anything even though we'd had this big fracture about a year in. And then we got married at like three and a half years. And at that point, I knew, I was like, what am I doing? Why am I marrying him? But I did it anyway. I mean, i don't
Starting point is 00:42:05 i don't even i was also a lot younger it's 27 when you're married the first time i i'm the only reason i'm not married and divorced is dumb luck in the sense that like yeah it just thankfully it got bad fast enough but there there's a world or another like butterfly effect or sliding doors of where i would have like gotten married you know and i would 100 for the very reasons that you mentioned where i remember just trying like what i told myself is i just know i'm crazy about her and we're in love so like these issues that we have are we'll figure figure it out. Love is enough. Love is enough. All you need is love.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Love conquers everything. And it's like, well, narcissism and your own bullshit, your past. There's a lot of stuff in there. We all come at it from our different perspectives. Yeah. Do you think anyone in the show was a narcissist? Billy or Brad or... No, Cooper wasn't.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Cooper was weird. You like Cooper. Cooper, you. He's a little... No, I find him irritating sometimes. A little tightly wound, sure. But, I mean, they told us he's a righteous, kind of fairly good guy.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I mean, he was a little too much sometimes. I just feel like he was a little cookie cutter. Yeah, but they deliberately did that. Right, and do we know people like Cooper? Oh my God, yes. Yes. The world's full of them. One of the best parts of the show
Starting point is 00:43:39 was when they show, at the beginning, they showed like a montage of all the hot sex she was having and then they went back and they showed like all the like shitty fights that she was having with those same guys and all the ways that they were being shitty like i think it did a good job of at least painting that like yes it's easy to glamorize this like lustful fun sexy shit but it's also like the moments before and after sometimes fucking suck yeah oh totally yeah i think that's what i always i that's the thing when i was thinking about that i great sex with past relationships but i don't i don't go back and go i miss having sex with her i just i don't and i and that's not a criticism to anyone i've been
Starting point is 00:44:22 with where i've had like especially girlfriends and maybe like if it was like a hook not one person no my the only time that ever existed my it was because it was my first girlfriend my first girlfriend really kind of framed my I guess sexual appetite or even just i think a lot of my people think i have a certain physical type and it's not too far off what i remember like my first girlfriend i don't know if that's coincidence or she shaped that i don't know but my second girlfriend uh you know i was with my first girlfriend off and on for seven years. It's all I knew.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And I was in my early 20s. And so in my second, my second girlfriend was, I went from that relationship to the second one, like in a day. Right. I met her and like, oh, I finally, she was my excuse to leave, finally leave the first one. Right. And so, yeah, there I, it would get in my head and they were i was struggling with just finally being with someone different but other than that no i especially someone i dated you know because someone i dated i had a okay regular sex with
Starting point is 00:45:38 but you're in a you're in a relationship right now yeah and i i don't i mean i don't want to but you seem very happy yeah so i don't i wonder like when you have not been really or have you not been in a relationship i mean i this is my first real relationship in 10 years so okay so before this relationship when you were single was there ever a time where you were like oh i remember this and i missed that person not from a girlfriend and i wonder if it's because we had such regular sex if there was like a like maybe like a hookup where it happened a couple times and it was great and like that just ended and it just was like i guess i didn't get out of my system so to speak where i guess a
Starting point is 00:46:23 girlfriend it was like we had sex like a couple hundred times and i guess i didn't miss it anymore i don't i mean i didn't know do you get to a point where you just have so much of it that you're like if i'm gonna fantasize it wouldn't be someone i had sex with a couple hundred times i guess is the logic i don't't know. But I wonder for Billy, it was very much different. He also... Is that a guy thing? He also treated her so poorly like so many times,
Starting point is 00:46:53 like such horrible things. Like most relationships, when someone's horrible to you, you're kind of like, it's bad, but it's not so in your face bad. There's a little bit of like self-esteem stuff. If I was like that,
Starting point is 00:47:06 I'd be kind of like how you want to give up everything for this guy who did such terrible things to you. My favorite part of that is they kept saying he did terrible, terrible things. And then for a couple episodes, they kept letting you think this was the terrible thing. And then it was like, nope,
Starting point is 00:47:24 this wasn't the thing that actually. They were just like, how could you forgive him? How could you forgive him? And then they showed all these moments where he was an asshole and like, oh, this was the terrible thing. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:47:33 It's fucking terrible and she wouldn't leave him. And you're like, oh no, it's something even worse. She's gonna have to get pregnant, lose the baby and then he's gonna like deliberately go to a wedding and try to hook up someone
Starting point is 00:47:48 in her face it's like oh that like and when he wants to get her back he calls her and facetimes fucking her best friend I'm so I just I can't I just can't this actually is pretty close to my life story did you write this under a pseudonym?
Starting point is 00:48:05 I wrote it. I wrote it. It was amazing. Oh, my God. Oh, shit. I can't even handle it. Nick spelled it out that way, and now he's laughing because he knows it's true. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I'll be fine. Like how many more terrible things? Is there good therapy in Montana or do you just kind of have to go online huh I don't know I'll call better help tomorrow is that one of your sponsors they are great
Starting point is 00:48:36 they're quite truly magnificent how do you know have you gone online I do therapy online you do before the pandemic I started therapy online. You do? Yeah. Did you before the pandemic? I started therapy during the pandemic. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Yeah. We all had to hop on. Mom, it's hard to find a therapist. I couldn't get my psychiatrist to call me back for like almost a year. Did you get fired by your therapist? I kind of. Ghosted in a way. Ghosted. I got fucking ghosted by my.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Oh. But I will say the one time that I got him on the phone, he was like, hi, I'm in the ER. So listen, he's like, and then they're like, I gotta go. I think people were just dropping like, you know. Wow. It's a tough time for people and mental health. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I think just that we're all still here. For ourselves. It's good for us i also didn't totally buy it was seven years i think eight eight eight for and they reconnected and i didn't quite get why in reality would it make sense that all right so Billy and Brad have this tumultuous relationship they finally break up he doesn't reach out to her at all she goes and gets married has a couple of kids he dates her he hooks up with her best friend and then Billy happens to like walk in while he's both there. First of all, too, I mean, don't you call your friend and be like, hey, I'm just outside.
Starting point is 00:50:09 I mean, she doesn't like just drop her kid and come into the city any old day. Yeah. But then Brad, it's like then he realizes he's obsessed with Billy again, but he's been thinking about her the whole time but never called. Yeah, doesn't track for me either and again like I there's a couple of my exes
Starting point is 00:50:30 I've I think very fondly all my exes I think fondly of but like you know a couple of them are married with kids
Starting point is 00:50:36 and they're amazing but like eight years is a long time like I don't even know who they are you know like it's different
Starting point is 00:50:44 he hadn't even gotten a haircut. I mean, he looked exactly the same. Exactly the same, too, by the way. They both do. And it's, you know, it's hard to watch, especially as an actor, because you're sort of like, I know you probably filmed both of these scenes
Starting point is 00:50:56 on the same day. Yeah. But, and then they actually leaned into it in the story where, you know, Billy was talking to some of her other housewife friends and she was saying like i have it i have my own fantasy too but i looked him up and he's bald and overweight and then she like billy rolls her eyes like well if i only had that problem because my guy's still gorgeous he has a huge schlong also is that is it too big is it what is that well i'm assuming that was in a non-er non-erect state well so is it is it this i mean you assume well some some men are showers and growers
Starting point is 00:51:36 to me okay what a showers you've never heard the showers show a grower what does that mean come on missy as a grower when you're like george costanza i'm in the pool like it's it can it's very elastic is is it it it can so maybe it's shrink it's a ship shifter transformative yes it it has a lot of potential yes when it's like a grower has a lot of potential. Yes. When it's like a grower has a ton of potential and should not be judged in its resting state. A grower. I'm sorry, a grower. And a shower is this like even its resting state, the only difference is it's either hard or not hard.
Starting point is 00:52:19 It doesn't grow at all. It just kind of thing. Yeah. And the question with with brad is is you assume he must be a a shower right because like if it was a grower it's like touching his knees at that point like i hope it's not a grower like yeah because a grower can go three to four or five times its resting state size. Nothing could, I mean, that would be... Insane. No, I mean, for me,
Starting point is 00:52:51 I feel like I like a medium-large. I don't need it to be, like, if it's too big, it's sort of like, well, that's just like, that's a lot to deal with. You know, you might need a trip to the urgent care after i don't know something that creates small discomfort but won't well i feel like also you adjust like if you have consistent sex with someone who like so in your own way women can be showers and growers too totally well like it's like elastic like you can like i
Starting point is 00:53:27 feel like you sort of you learn how i also think men who have i think any good man with a huge member is like really good about foreplay because they understand that you can't just like go in there yeah you can't just go in there as long as it doesn't hit your ovary, you're fine. What happens if it hits your ovary? It's like a dick hitting your ovary is the equivalent to like getting kicked in the balls for a guy.
Starting point is 00:53:54 It's 100% true. That's what the doctor said. Gut pain. Not to me, to a friend. That's the equivalent. It's the equivalent to getting kicked in the balls
Starting point is 00:54:03 is having a dick hit your ovary. Don't tell my mom i'm on the show so the they go to a a swingers party i was very uncomfortable with that whole scene i was very excited for you to see what a sex swing did you're comfortable i actually wrote in my notes, Nick finally gets, I even wrote, Nick finally gets to see what a sex swing does. Have you been, you know, have you talked about it? Well, there was one time where I ended up on someone else's hinge date and this boy had a sex swing in his living room. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And you were aware with the logistics. The living room feels like that's a little a little exhibitionist a little much maybe in the you know in the hallway especially for like a
Starting point is 00:54:51 20 something also I think that's a bit of a try hard thing I don't think if you meet a guy in his 20s he's trying to show off I just don't know
Starting point is 00:55:01 if you've reached the point in your life where you're like I need to spice things up and you you get into sex swings I don't know if you've reached the point in your life where you're like I need to spice things up and you get into sex swings I don't know I could be I've never seen one
Starting point is 00:55:10 in real life in the flesh I've seen a flesh of sex with midfinger I was really disturbed by the swinger party scene and it wasn't because they were at a swinger party or whatever it wasn't because they were at a swinger party or whatever it was when
Starting point is 00:55:27 his buddy's wife wanted to perform oral sex on him and and billy's literally crying and he still goes through with it and i've never been to a sex party i haven't participated in a open relationship at all but i do understand the concept of why that can be stimulating and how you can channel that but like it's for me i would think it's literally the opposite of like creating emotional pain for your partner and then getting off on that like it would be weird it wouldn't it be it's attractive if she's weirdly turned on by the taboo-ness of it all but she was she looked like she was suffering emotionally and i don't think i could like literally i i i found it to be really disturbing like i don't think i could be even aroused in that moment i'm like oh shit you're crying we need to go like that's this is not what
Starting point is 00:56:29 i'm trying to get out of this experience and yet i feel like they crossed a weird line there of like what couples get out of the situation and i understand they were they didn't they they were amateurs to a sex party but but yet he still was able to climax while his wife was five feet away watching him in tears. And that seemed messed up. But don't you feel like they reached that point? I mean, they crossed the line a long time before that. I'm not suggesting that it was fine,
Starting point is 00:57:03 but I mean, she had caused him a lot of emotional pain and perhaps being in that situation for him may have felt a little bit like, yeah, this is, I mean, I don't know that you personally would have gotten to that point where after your girlfriend was like, or your wife with your two children was like, oh, by the way i still
Starting point is 00:57:25 want to fuck my ex-boyfriend and you'd be like well oh and then you find you know oh then you've gone to dinner with him and then the bathroom and this and that and the motorcycle and then you wouldn't find yourself there no i get that but it's one of those it's it's like she he finds out that his wife has these fantasies and and maybe he still loves them and it hurts his feeling hurts his feelings and i get all that it's the part where he was able to it was they they wrote it as he used that feeling to get off like he was looking at her crying and got satisfaction out of it in that moment to like justify his decision to say he was like i think he literally said do it or go like and he gave her permission because he saw her crying and that to me seems really fucked up and like counterintuitive to what
Starting point is 00:58:18 the open relationship or these swinger parties are are mad mad. I'm not an expert, but it seems really not like, it's like an entrepreneur makes the world go blind. Like if he's upset with his wife that much, like it's probably not the move to be like, I'm going to try to make her feel how I feel. And I feel like they give open relationships or sex parties a bad rep in that scene where you're like, that is not what it's supposed to,
Starting point is 00:58:42 it's what it's intended for. Like to be like, she's crying. You're like, yep, that's what supposed it's what it's intended for like to be like she's crying you're like yep that's what i needed to say yes i don't know real fucked up that's where i really hated cooper well i feel like it's like bringing toxic monogamy like i feel like they have a toxic monogamous situation where it's like clearly it's not working for them it's like bringing that into a space that's like supposed to be that's i think that's why there's like the ethical part of ethical non-monogamy yeah I mean they were they were human beings in a bad situation in a fictional fictionalized bad situation I mean I can see when someone's causing you a lot of pain the desire to cause them pain
Starting point is 00:59:17 but that's probably not from your highest self it just is like you're and then I don't know I really can't and I even get that but i don't get the getting turned on by it to me that went it turned cooper into like a wannabe good guy who tries really hard to be a guy and probably for the most part is a good guy but he is struggling because his wife's doing some shit into like kind of an you know it's where you find out, you pull back the curtain and be like, oh shit, it's all an act. He's evil. Because to get aroused because your wife is emotionally torn up and crying seems really horrible. Or am I overthinking that? It was his ability, not because he was hurt and not because he got satisfied.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Like we all want to get even sometimes. You hurt me. I want to hurt you. We do that all the time in relationships. It's that it got him turned on that made it really almost like serial killer type of. Well, I mean, maybe, but he wasn't at a sex party. I mean, you do kind of have to remember like somebody wanted. I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:21 I mean, desire in that whole, you throw that aspect in. I don't know. It's also, I feel like it's sexy to feel powerful and i feel like in that moment it was like the ultimate reclamation of power because true he was like i'm in charge now she took that power from him didn't she i guess i can't i just i really i really hated cooper for and i really was mad at the writer in that moment for like it just seemed really toxic and they almost to me it looked it was so toxic but they almost painted it as like not like of course he wants revenge and i was just like this dude's getting off because his
Starting point is 01:01:00 wife's crying and that was weird fucked up yeah it's fucked up also it was like so not clear until they had their backyard party that his co-worker and the the like mom friend from school were no we're a couple anyway i can't even believe that they that that was there was a little jump it was yeah suddenly it was like jumping the shark the work world and the moms at school world was like oh well great obviously they're a couple and they're they're friends now i'm like i didn't even know they knew each other let alone were married yeah also the makeup between cooper and his buddy like almost happened incredibly you know fast it turned real dark real fast he beat the shit out of them then he got tried to blackmail
Starting point is 01:01:41 them and then it like then he's like i went to hr and i you know removed my complaint and then cooper gave us a monologue speech and his buddy was like water under the bridge like okay they really mailed it in the last couple episodes i felt like sorry about that well and then the wife like goes to billy and she's like so apparently my husband like wants to be more like your husband so there goes my sex life like thanks billy now we can't go to swinger parties anymore that's a lot to put on billy fucks up things for everybody oh wow she really her midlife crisis which made the decision at the end to just ultimately cheat on her husband with bread that much more shitty because she first was like you know before i get what ultimately i want is just a good lay that's why i want this one more time i'm gonna fuck up everyone's life in my circle
Starting point is 01:02:31 and then do the thing i could have done from the very beginning which wouldn't have affected anyone but me and my husband obviously but like no no i want to fuck up every I want to be a nuclear bomb. I don't want to just be a grenade. I want to. You also don't see her exit. Like you don't see her saying that she's going there, like how she ends up leaving or what she ends up telling him. All you see is him on the phone in the bathroom tracking her, but you don't know when or where she left from.
Starting point is 01:03:02 From the perspective of a parent, I mean, it's so, it's just like the worst parenting in the entire fucking world. I mean, there's no thought even remotely about the kids. Well, she had that one like fantasy of like if she could have it with Brad after she talked with her like mentor
Starting point is 01:03:19 or whatever at Columbia. And she had that fantasy of like her and Brad and her current two kids. And then apparently they had a third kid because she was holding a new baby. Right. So she was like envisioning him kind of being a stepdad. I also kind of hated that scene to the therapist. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:36 She's like, you're the closest thing to a shrink I have. And then you turn into like this weird kind of real guy who doesn't believe in marriage. It was just like, okay, so you're not, you're just going to someone, someone you know hates the sanctity of marriage he even said that he's like are you coming to me because you trust my opinion or because you know i don't believe in
Starting point is 01:03:52 monogamy yeah which again i swear the writer hated billy maybe she hates herself well the whole show is based off of a memoir also she is billy she is billy aren't we all billy well i guess i think that's the million dollar question for men are you all billy oh my god i don't think so this i mean honestly it's a lot so what is what is the big takeaway from uh better butterfly it's a butterfly in the cage don't let it set it free don't i don't know what the takeaway don't marry it's like oh sorry go ahead ask make sure that uh just don't marry billy how do you know if you're marrying a billy how do you know if you're marrying a billy i think it's like don't let yourself get in the cage like as much as it's like you can see that
Starting point is 01:04:45 like her husband isn't fulfilling her and it's like sad I think a lot of it is her not communicating that earlier and letting it get to such a point where like she's so depraved that she's having to have these insane fantasies you have to be you have to just have to communicate who you really are to the person that you're with and make sure that they still that they're that they're up for that and vice versa right like i yeah i totally it's not a fuck yeah then don't do it missy before we go we like to play a fun game with our guests it's called do you know me great we're gonna ask you she's like chris didn't tell me this chris didn't tell me this we don't have to play we can play i don't know do i know you it's know. Do I know you? It's about you? It's about you.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Oh, it's about me. It's about you. Okay. It's fun. It's great. I love, I,
Starting point is 01:05:30 well, I'm just going to ask some basic questions. Great. Does Missy believe in this? Has Missy ever done that? Okay. And it's yes or no. And if you have an anecdotal story,
Starting point is 01:05:41 you can share. Exciting. You don't have to share. Thank you. It's up to you why are you laughing so hard oh shit i just love you oh boy oh yeah love you too we answer first though i okay good well we're gonna ally want to suggest something for the sake of efficiency and time to because we always kind of get off that we're just gonna think to ourselves and and let missy answer the question oh okay got it so we're not gonna guess got it at least not round table it okay okay all right do All right. Do you know me? Do you know me? With Missy Pyle.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Oh, boy. Here we go. This is a softball one. Oh, good. I'm terrible at softball. Does Missy believe in Zodiac signs? Oh, I guess. Yeah, 85%.
Starting point is 01:06:38 It's like you're a woman living in Los Angeles. Yeah. What's your sign? I'm a Scorpio. What's your sign? I'm a Scorpio. What's that mean? Yikes. Yikes. That's what it means?
Starting point is 01:06:51 Yikes? Watch out. No, like femme fatale. Okay. I put the tal in femme fatale. Shebang. Sorry. I'm six feet tall.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Okay. Question number two. Has Missy ever shoplifted? Yes. Yes. Yes. You say that as if like you're with pride. When I was little, I was a shoplifter. Like I got caught at least three times.
Starting point is 01:07:15 One time I came home. How many times did you not get caught? Probably three or four. And then I learned about karma and that made sense to me. And I was like, fuck. But one time I went it was like two times one time I went to the like convenience store
Starting point is 01:07:28 when my mom and I put a bunch of stuff in my pants and then when I went to the bathroom it all fell out and my mom made me go back and tell them that I stole it
Starting point is 01:07:33 and then another time I was in like a Target kind of place and I started grabbing things this one was like I saw you steal that so I just would put like it was like a kid of like makeup
Starting point is 01:07:43 but I was in from a big family too and we didn't have any money so how many siblings do you have I have like I was lost to five and then there are two more
Starting point is 01:07:50 really after that yeah there's like seven but like ten is a lot and not I have a stepmom but the last two still
Starting point is 01:07:57 it's still a lot but I haven't shoplifted willing I like in like two years two weeks yeah
Starting point is 01:08:04 nothing you didn't even hear my two-week joke christy forget i look at christy she's just like she's tuned us out okay go ahead question number three has missy ever had a paranormal experience i think so once i think so but it's pretty mild could you describe it um it's kind of boring but my friend and I were doing a play and this my friend was my friend and I were running lines and I always forgot this one part and our um our other friend was sitting there and she'd never heard us do it and I was going back and forth and I forgot this one line and my friend came up out of the chair and went why do you always forget that part and we were just like what and forth and I forgot this one line and my friend came up out of the chair and went, why do you always forget that part?
Starting point is 01:08:45 And we were just like, what? And she was, I don't know why I said that. And I was like, I always forget that part. And she was like, I don't know why I said that. And I thought, oh, that was some spooky person. So not only was it paranormal, it was almost like a... Exorcism? Well, she was possessed.
Starting point is 01:09:01 She was possessed. Yeah. But it wasn't that exciting. I'm sorry. It's okay. Has Missy ever slept with a co-worker? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:09:16 It's almost like you're offended. In fact, I mean, when I was younger, I was like, I was in the theater. I'm more like, did I work with a sex partner?
Starting point is 01:09:29 Yes. Does Missy have a side hustle? Yes. Yeah. For sure. I feel like a band. I'm in a band, but it's a terrible side hustle. That doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:09:41 You're in a band? I've been in many bands. You sing? Yeah. A little bit. You sing? Here and there. You're a vocalist i've been in many bands you sing yeah a little bit here there you're vocalist do you play an instrument i play a little guitar what's your favorite song to sing i wish you were dead but what's your favorite song to sing no i wrote that the song god i wish you're dead i want to fuck you up. Damn, I love you, Jesus. Dogs.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Doesn't Missy have a five-year plan? What a great question. Five-year plans. I've tried. Do you have a five-year plan? No. I mean, I hope I would like to have at least one kid in the next five years. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 01:10:26 Yeah. Kids are so hard, but they really are. I mean, it makes you a different person. You're just like, oh, okay. This makes sense. I've always wanted to be a dad. That's the only constant I've ever remembered. I've changed a lot of like, I want to do this with my life or whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:43 And a lot of things have changed. But being a dad has always been the constant. And in no way am I comparing having a lot of like, I want to be like, I want to do this with my life or whatever. And a lot of things have changed, but being a dad has always been the constant. And in no way am I comparing having a dog to a kid. I understand. But like, I recently got a dog and I love, I love caring. I love caring for him.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Do you have a tattoo of your new dog? I noticed you have a new tattoo and it looks like a dog. It's him. But like, I love taking care of them. And I really, and it's made me really anxious kids too like they're they're in the present and they're like they're just
Starting point is 01:11:09 they're fucking they believe in unicorns and things and it's nice it's really fucking nice yeah and they remind you like of really really really beautiful things so i mean having got having a dog is like i feel like softened me in a good way so I'm sure you can just leave your kid in a crate and put a blanket over it little water parenting one has Missy ever written a mechanical bowl written I had one at my second wedding i think there's a picture of me was that the bear yeah bear guy yeah because that would have been if you're like no it's the other husband i've been like well there's a theme right right does missy have a record player yeah yeah yeah it's kind of dusty, but I have one.
Starting point is 01:12:07 I use one every day. Yeah, you do. You use a record player every day. What do you listen to when you're a record player? I don't know. I love going to consignment shops and finding old records. I love it. What's the one that you got recently? I have everything from Barbra Streisand to Gavin DeGraw to country gospel to Sam Cooke.
Starting point is 01:12:27 I love it. Every day I put it on. Sam Cooke. It's magic. Just listen. Missy, this has been a ton of fun. It's been so much fun. I can't believe we got to talk about sex life.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Can you let my audience know what you're up to, what you are working on, where can they find you on social? Plug away. Oh my God. what you're up to what you are working on where can they find you on social plug away oh my god i'm at missy pile like missy like mississippi m-a-s-s-i-p-y-l-e i have a show coming out on fx called why the last man just fucking awesome it's um it's the it's based on a graphic novel where everything with a Y chromosome dies in one day, like all mammals, all cis men, except for one cis guy and his monkey.
Starting point is 01:13:14 And then the world is like, and then it's just dealing with the aftermath of that. And it comes out on September 13th. I don't come in until like episode four, but it's pretty badass. It's really fun. All right. Well, we'll be checking that out. Just got back from La Cañada.
Starting point is 01:13:33 And yeah, now I'm back. All right. Just doing some gardening. I'm getting new plants. You are. Put in my house. I don't know much about plants. I just tell the gardener to put in my house. I don't know much about plants. I just tell the gardener to put color in there.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Do you have a favorite plant? I like a hydrangea lately. I have a couple. I just got an avocado tree and a lemon tree. I want to get a lemon tree. Do you recommend any plants for me? I want some color in the background that are somewhat also easy to maintain.
Starting point is 01:14:06 You really, I would go with some succulents and some drought-resistant. Los Angeles, not a lot of water here. Aren't succulents mostly green? Some of them have some really pretty colors. I'm not a great, I mean, I'm not an arborist. Arborist is trees, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:22 How much space do you have? It's like a, I don't know, decent amount you in a like do you live in do you have a big yard or is it a small it's a small it's just a backdrop where the pool is so it's like what i look out and i want it to be colorful and green and right now well right now like this is the hottest time to be planting in july and august so you know then my neighbors cut their trees down because they're putting in a pool and that added a lot of color and they kind of ruined it. So sorry. Now I have to do my own thing.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Sorry about that. It's OK. Yeah. I mean, hibiscus, hydrangea, anything with an H. All right. I'll look into it. Missy, thank you so much for uh coming on it's been a ton of fun good luck thank you uh thanks guys for listening uh don't forget to
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