The Viall Files - E342 GloZell Green - Block Your Mama

Episode Date: November 10, 2021

Today we are joined by the effervescent comedian and YouTuber, GloZell Green! On this episode we dive into talking about being an introvert, interviewing and hugging Obama (for way too long), and getting invited to parties but not wanting to go. We also talk about the do’s and don’ts of dating while technically married, how people change once engaged, and her journey with IVF and surrogacy. “I want to be invited but I don’t want to go.” Make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes.  Check out our new "Introvert" merch at www.viallfiles.com today! THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Betterhelp: Get 10% off your first month at https://www.betterhelp.com/ViallFiles Ritual: Listeners get 10% off during your first 3 months. Just visit http://www.ritual.com/VIALL to add Essential Protein today.  Huzzah: Using code VIALL for 20% off your order at http://www.drinkhuzzah.com. Episode Socials:  @viallfiles @nickviall @glozell See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This show is sponsored by BetterHelp Online Therapy. Everyone needs to unload to someone who's unbiased and who isn't judging. Visit betterhelp.com slash vile files and unload the stress. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Vile Files. I'm your host, Nick, joined by Allie and... Patricia.

Patricia. Amanda? I'm just going to keep this joke going on forever. This is going to be like Chrissy finding a new job. Every episode, Amanda has a different name. Oh, by the way, for those of you who don't know, if you don't listen to our ethnic episodes, first of all, missing out. Second of all, Amanda made a joke

about me not remembering her name. I remember her name. Allegedly. Allegedly. Are you someone who's very good at learning names, Nick? Are you good about... No. Sometimes when people introduce themselves, I black out when I should be listening to their name.

And then it's like, and then it's terrible. What it is is I've also gotten worse with facial recognition. And because I'm like a A-list celebrity, I think it's. Did I laugh too loud at that?

You didn't mean a belly laugh? Did I laugh too loud? It was an appropriate laugh. It was meant to be a joke. I'd be more worried if you like awkwardly stayed in silence, being like, oh, he doesn't know. Yeah, exactly. Like, hey, Nick, can we chat after?

But no, I do think being on the show and having people come up to you has made it worse for me because I'm in my, like I'm always, I'm very aware of my surroundings and therefore less present about the people in front of me and therefore have gotten worse at remembering faces. I'm also the type of person where unless I like actually get to know you and meet you, I don't necessarily remember meeting you or remember being in the same room as you.

Like I have friends who are like, oh, you were like two tables over from me for like Northwestern orientation. And I'm like, but I would have no idea that that was you because I didn't know you at that time. Like I'm like, until we have some like memories and rapport, I'm not going to place you in my like old memories. Yeah. Also like when someone meets you,

it doesn't mean you're going to remember them. And you're just like, there's nothing worse than like, we've met. I've met you before. Fuck. What's anything new in your ladies' lives? I'm planning my sister's bachelorette party,

which is going well. There's a spreadsheet. Yeah. Nick's seen my spreadsheet and it's going so well that my future brother-in-law has now enlisted me to plan his bachelor party because his best man has not stood up to the plate the curse of efficiency

so I will be planning both parties have you since since we talked to talk to your sister about what she wants because at the time you're like I was like oh you had all these questions

about what you should do and I was like oh what is your sister whose party it is for would like and she's like well I didn't like oh

I didn't ask her it's like it's not a fucking prize party it's a bash rap party so I asked her and I don't get why people are obsessed

with fucking surprises when it comes it's just like anyway have you since asked so I started out and I was like hey I don't know why I asked her. And I don't get why people are obsessed with fucking surprises when it comes. I know. It's just like the, anyway, have you since asked? I started out and I was like, hey, I just want to know, like, how involved do you want to be? Because like this woman's a doctor. She works crazy hours. So I'm like not trying to add to her plate.

And I was like. What are your likes and dislikes? What are the things you don't want to have? What's one thing you want to make sure happens? More so like, do you want to pick the Airbnb? Do you want to like, At what point is it more stressful to know or not know or be involved or not be involved? And we've had several

long phone calls. It's now down to Dallas versus San Antonio. We're breaking down people's flights. We found Airbnbs in both, so evaluating how far that is from the airport. I did ask her how she feels about strippers. She feels like she's just going to be really awkward in that scenario.

So we're going to avoid that. I have some other ideas in mind of what to do, but she listens to the show. So I can't say too much. Have you partaken in male stripping? Have you been a patron of a male stripper? like have you been a patron of a male stripper I've not been a patron I've just like experienced like the kind of like go-go dancer dudes in

WeHo but that's not really like stripping that's the closest I've been I did learn how to pole dance from a guy friend of mine in high school we went to like a playground and he taught me how to pole dance I went to a gay bar with Brad Goreski on more than one occasion but there was one of the go-go dancers

who I was surprised because he was a terrible dancer, which is why I noticed him. And I couldn't take my eyes off of him because it was like, how do you dance off beat? And like a week later, he was my barista in Brentwood. And I was like... You're like, I know your secret. I know, yeah.

It's pretty great. So what you're saying is you don't struggle with facial recognition when it comes to your strippers nope no it's body recognition it's 100% accurate

oh if I notice you it was just so offbeat and then he was like would you like you know cream in that and I was like

yeah that was at the coffee shop I know that was a good joke. Yeah, that was good. That was a good joke. Good execution. So my car has been in dire need of a wash for a very long time. This is my first time ever really having a car. Some things I'm still adjusting to with upkeep. And I went out to my car earlier this week and there was a sticker in the windshield that said junk car disposal and like a business card for how to do it. And I looked and none of the other cars around me had it. So my car was like targeted. Someone told you to give up.

Someone saw my car and was like, that's a junk car. I'm going to hook them up with a junk car. Your car is fine. It's like, okay, it's dirty right now. Says the guy who pays you. You don't need more money. It's like, yeah, like my dirty right now. Says the guy who pays you. You don't need more money. It's like, yeah, like my car looks like poverty wages, but I swear. I've seen worse. It's like alleys. No, I'm just kidding. Excuse me. Your car's also totally fine. You got a nice car. My car is more than fine. Thank you. I take a lot of pride in it.

I went suit shopping last night for what was going to be Ben Higgins' wedding, which will be this weekend for the people listening to this episode. Tune in to my Instagram. My engagement was through the roof during Ashley and Jared's wedding. I'm hoping for the same... Spike. Same spike. Yeah.

It was a fun time. Are you a groomsman? No. Oh, my dad asked and I wasn't sure how to... Your dad asked? Yeah. Hey, is your boss a groomsman? Well, no, because I was like, oh, do you guys want to like meet up in Denver next weekend?

Nick is going to a wedding. And then I was like, oh, it's the same. He was at the bachelor party when we were at Laura's bachelorette party, whatever, because they knew you were at his bachelor party when we were celebrating. And my dad was like, how close are they? How close are the people in the franchise? Is he a groomsman? And I was like, well, he was Jared's groomsman, but I could ask.

Ben's groomsmen are his close high school and college friends. I don't believe any bachelor people are. I hope not because I'll be pissed. Can you imagine the betrayal? You show up, Dean is like standing up. Well, it's been a while since I've been to a wedding, COVID. I haven't really, there hasn't been reasons to wear suits or dress up lately. And so I took this opportunity to really go for it.

So does Natalie dress with you in this example? You're like, babe, this is what I'm wearing and she has to coordinate? No. Interesting enough, she had already picked out a dress. And they go together. Ish, yeah. Okay. They don't not.

We're not like matchy-matchy. We don't need to go to prom. Yeah, that's what I said. I was like, this isn't prom. This isn't matchy-matchy. She's going to look incredible. We'll look colorful.

It's like a navy. There's some pinstripe in there. It's a dark navy and I think hers is like a shade of green. So there's some pinstripe in there. It's a dark navy and I think hers is like a shade of green. So there's some color in it. And it's a Nashville wedding so I don't know if it, and it's not like black tie. Because I called Ben, I was like,

is this like black tie? And he said his fiance calls it cocktail casual. Oh. We both went like, we were both like, what? And he's like,

I think every guy's wearing a suit. And I said, well, I'm going to be the best dressed person there. Because I didn't, I haven't been to a wedding in a while.

I'm like, I'm going, I'll get it. Imagine you on your wedding day, should that happen. You were going to be balling. Should that happen, Alex?

I didn't want to put pressure on him. I didn't want to put pressure on him. I'll probably, probably just go classic black. Like a tuxedo. With a cummerbund though? It'll look good.

Anyway, I'm excited to showcase it. Tune into the gram. Let me know your thoughts. Yeah. Yeah, I really went for it. I felt a little guilty after spending it. And I was like, you know what? Fuck it.

I haven't bought a suit in four years. And if it makes you happy, like worth it. Anyway, we have a really fantastic episode for you. Glozell is with us. Many of you know her. Some of you don't. And if you don't, you are welcome. And even if you do, I don't think you do. I thought I know her. Some of you don't. And if you don't, you are welcome. And even if you do, I don't think

you do. I thought I knew her. I'd seen the Cinnamon Challenge, knew her as this larger than life comedic YouTube presence. And then in this conversation, you guys talk about IVF. You guys talk about attachment to stuff and hoarding. You guys really got...

She's very fun and funny as you would expect. Like you guys really got, you know, she's very fun and funny as you would expect, but you guys also got deep. Yeah. A little honest about my life in this episode. We have a fantastic episode for you. Really excited for you to listen to Glozell in our conversation. Also check out our new introvert line.

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GloZell, welcome. Hello. Can we start like action? Sure, yeah. Hello, this is GloZell. Is you okay? Is you good? Because I want to know.

I'm here with someone that's on my mug. Is you okay? Yeah, I'm fine. I think I'm okay. Is you okay? I I want to know. I'm here with someone that's on my mug. Is you okay? Yeah. I think I'm okay. Is you okay? I'm okay. Are you?

Sometimes. I'm not feeling like you're like the ultimate okay. Like, are you busy? Are you running around or something? I've never been the ultimate okay. Have you? Yes, I am. There's always shining.

This is how I wake up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I don't quite wake up like this because my wig is like on the floor but otherwise that I'm kind of personality wise

always yes always it is the number one thing that drive people crazy you think it drives people crazy yeah you know I know we're going to

talk about relationships but the thing that you love about somebody talk about whatever you want close down thank you the thing that you love about someone

is also the thing that will eventually make you crazy about them. I think you've been reading my mind this morning. Really? Yeah. Oh, it's because your bed is facing the right way. We've been talking about this. I'm being serious.

This feels very like a... Because one thing I talked to Darlene, my therapist, this week. Okay. And something I've thought a lot about. I'm so glad you go to a therapist. You think that cute, hot people just don't have issues. We do. But y'all have different issues.

Like, oh my goodness, they didn't write my name correctly on my Starbucks cup. It's a lot of self-pity for sure. I get a problem with it. A problem is a problem. Yeah. One thing I've thought about a lot recently and I've talked with Darlene

and a question I have for you is especially in a world where we talk a question I have for you is, especially in a world where we talk a lot about self-acceptance, loving yourself for who you are, simultaneously talking about like working on yourself and the fine line between accepting who you are. As we get older, you get more comfortable with like, fuck it, this is me. I don't know. Like this is what I do. Well, that's easier for a guy. Cause I say, I can say the same thing, but here, pass me the Spanx and let me suck this up and let me get the right wig. And yes, I accept myself with all these wonderful things that I'm doing. Yeah. And I, you know, maybe, maybe it's easier for guys. I don't

know. But even in relationships, like you said, and I've said that too, you're right. Like it's always a thing that's just like, I love that about you. It's so charming. You're just like, just wait. Right, just wait. What is something about yourself that you have learned to accept about yourself that you know that either A, you don't necessarily love or you might be insecure about how other people see that quality?

And then what's something that you continue to work on because you choose to accept that being a quality that you just say, deal with it. This is me. Okay. Thank you for that five question question. You know, so I'm like, what was the first one? Because that's one thing that my attention span is like a gnat. I'm like, huh, what? So something that we were talking about my, my personality and that is something that is good. And it's something that drives people crazy also, just so you know, um, I have a boyfriend of two years, but I just got a divorce

Wednesday. So my husband just didn't like my boyfriend. I'm like, what's going on here? But so I've been in this thing about relationships and I am trying to discover what went wrong there because I don't want to do it again with the relationship I'm in. However, I'm still the same person. And eventually this wears everybody down. Like, how you doing? Like, this wears everybody down. Like, ah, you don't like this. This is all the time, you know? So.

And how much do you? Self-reflect on that? Like, I don't want to reprove. When you meet people, like your boyfriend, you're just like, hey. Yeah, I tell them like it might. And also I sound not authentic, but I'm like, I hope you have a great day.

You know, like, yeah, sure. Right. Because I'm always like, you know, as opposed to, you know what? It really feels like I hope that you have a wonderful day. Like, no, I'm Disney all the time. So do you and do you like that about yourself or does it ever does it ever bother you? It you know, I'm just starting to realize it could be me because you know, I'm going on my,

hopefully my fourth husband. So I'm just like, okay, maybe it might be me. It takes a while for you to realize. Cause I'm like, who doesn't like a happy person? Who, you know, the sun is shining. So maybe I need to, what's her name? Mandy, what's your girl name? Natalie.

No, the one that you go to the therapist. Oh, Darlene? Yeah, I might have to see Darlene about a few things. Do you go to therapy? I have a therapist, Joe. You know, and hi, Joe. He's really nice. I got, yeah, I probably need to call him.

You just bring that out of people. I'm like, yes, I'm self-reflecting it. But I noticed your shoulders gone up, they're gone down now. I feel like we're friends. I fidget. Yeah, because now you're cool. Now you just chill. It takes me a while to warm up.

Yes. Okay. I think it's my introverted side. See, I feel like I'm making up for my introverted side. Because I am an introvert but nobody but no one believes me you know like let's say you like oh I'm going to this party there's a lot of celebrities there okay let me go I take my pictures I want to go home you know I'm not trying to just mingle and be all up in there you know I want to be invited but I don't want to go you know

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So when you go out and you're giving out all this uh excited energy yes i'll be at pride saturday yes arizona is that something that comes naturally or is that something did it always was that always your personality or something that as an introvert that you would go out and say i I'm going to maximize the moments I have because then I'm going to eventually go home. Because sometimes I struggle with that. I will literally be out sometime

and I'll feel like my introverted self. And I like to party, I like going out, I like being social at times. But if I'm not mentally prepared for it, I will be in a room of people wishing I could be likable and cool, and I don't sometimes know how to do it. And I really struggle with wishing I was a different person in that moment.

And I'm wondering, is that where that came from? And how do you do that? Oh, my gosh. I've been in that situation so many times. And then it's like, oh, GloZell's, you know, because even though I'm like this, there's times where you just like, I just want to stand in the corner because I've got to do this. I got to be here a certain amount of time, blah, blah, blah. I have to wait to go on the green carpet, on the red carpet. But, yeah, I went to school with the same group of people from kindergarten to 12th grade.

So I think that might have something to do with it because you're used to those people. You're used to those families. You're used to, you know, everybody's mom, dad and everything. And then after 12th grade, there's a whole world of new different people. And you're like, oh, man, I've been in this shelter for so long. And people know me from YouTube. And they're like, oh, she's so funny. She's so crazy.

But they don't realize, like, I'm just in the room by myself, though. You know, I'm in my room by myself talking to a camera. You know, they just think that I'm like, there's nobody else here. I'm eating cinnamon dine by myself. You know, I was swimming in the tub of cereal by myself. And then here comes like, can you come to the White House and interview President Barack Obama? Can he come here? Like, can he come to the White House and interview President Barack Obama. Can he come here? Like, can he come to my house?

Like, I got to go over there. You know, so you end up in this situation where you're like, you got to do it. You have to, I feel like I have to act like myself. You know, myself is like this, but I'm usually like just a few of us, you know, so. How was going to the White House and interviewing Obama? Like, did you get nervous? How did you approach that? Did you also feel a pressure to dim your light, so to speak?

Right. You know, because here's this brother. I was like, what's up, man? You know, you can't do that. But he makes you feel so cool, you know. And it was interesting because I kept thinking, well, there's not, it's just not going to happen. I kept like clicking the phone, like, stop, the president's not calling me, like, oh, the email blocked, like what, you know, they're like, oh no, this is real. So I'm still thinking the whole time you're flying, you're going into the White House and I just bought

some shoes and they were hurting my feet. I'm like, I'm going to take these off. So I'm walking around the White House. I'm like, what are they going to do? I'm here now. They're going to shoot me. They're going to shoot me now because I don't have my shoes on. So I don't know. I had to get real comfortable. And when he was there, they give you a protocol.

Make sure you stand up. Don't touch him. Don't touch him. Just say hello. And you greet him and you sit down. Okay. But that, when he got there i'm just like you know you gave him a hug and then right then i was like oh no oh no but then so i was paralyzed

so i was stuck and i was like mid hug i'm like oh no and then i'm going well they can't kill me because i'm hugging the president right now at this moment so this whole time i'm like i'm paralyzed and he's like uh uh a gloseo can you can you let go and i'm like oh he knows my name and then it was like a death grip like he had to ask you like oh i would have died yeah i did i did it with my hands killed you in that moment in a way obamacare okay so then but he smelled so good so all these emotions i'm like oh michelle's gonna be mad i'm hugging her man and i'm like uh you know does he wear a cologne, he smells so good. He smelled like sandalwood and power, honey.

Yeah, he did. Who else have you interviewed? You had Justin Timberlake. What was? Oh, yeah, that's my. Okay. You kind of, you kind of, you kind of. Like if you said.

Did my research? Yeah. No, I'm saying like if you said that was my cousin, I'd be like, oh, yeah, I see that. Like a Walmart kind of version no okay so justin timberlake uh plays branch in the series called the trolls and i play his grandmother and so that was really great meeting justin timberlake and i was thrilled because you know who wasn't a fan excellent excellent accent so well he's he's wonderful everybody's wonderful it's great so you you just congratulations on the divorce by the way thank you okay i don't know if you've been in a long-term relationship i mean it depends on what you call long-term that's right

you young but it was two years like you agree on everything and still you wouldn't sign so he finally signed the day before the trial, which means I didn't have to pay for a lawyer. You know, I'm like, thank you so very much. But he signed

and that was like, hallelujah. So now my boyfriend was like, are you single now? You know, because technically I had a husband the whole time we met.

Did that like, did you guys use that like any like role play situations? Okay, we're going there. I don't know. I feel like... Hey, married woman.

Do you ever do improv? They talk about giving your partner a gift. Use the resources you have. Here you are. You're technically married. You agreed to separate. It's pretty common what you did. You date even though you're married.

I thought it was going to end. I didn't think that it was gonna take two years to get a divorce when you don't have any property or anything so i was like um papers have been served don't worry about it the divorce will come in a few months two years later you know we're still going and then you have to like when do you introduce your boyfriend to your, I have a five-year-old daughter. She was three at the time when we met, when I met my boyfriend. Like, do you introduce

your daughter to the boyfriend and you don't know how long the boyfriend's going to be around when you're still married? What was your answer? Immediately. Immediately.

Because what had happened was it was around the holidays in December. I was like, I'm going to florida he's like well let's meet yeah i'll pick you up from the airport i'm like no because my sister's gonna be with me my child's gonna be with me he's like well who are you gonna get i'm like lyft or uber and um he said well those are strangers still you know i could kill you just as well as they could

if you scared of that like that's true so So we met like really quick on Bumble. You met on Bumble? Yes. He was a fan. So we were Facebook friends for over 10 years. And then my friend, Tracy McCluggan, she's like, go on Bumble. Get you some free food. You ain't got to marry nobody.

Just go on a few days and get you some free. I'm like, I need some free food, honey. Yeah. So I went on Bumble and he saw it. nobody just go on a few days and get you some free i'm like i need some free food honey yeah so i went on bubble and he saw it he's like wait a minute someone is using your profile to catfish people i'm like no that's me he's like oh well can you swipe right or left whatever it was i said why we talking on facebook why why i gotta go to the dating site so you were chatting on Facebook and he was like a fan. Yes.

He was following you. Yes, for over 10 years, yes. How, and what were you guys, had you met him in person at that point? Never. And what were you chatting about? Well, for over 10 years,

you know, you just kind of click like on pictures and there was a time I tried to set him up with my friend. What, what, what? And I thought he would be

a good friend to my husband at the time, but that didn't work out. Hallelujah. What made you interested? What was the thing online that made you think, I'm going to build this online connection with this guy or friendship? Well, it was not.

Because as a public figure, you have fans. Yes. That's sometimes an awkward, confusing relationship to who to who should I, who can I trust? Who can I be authentic to? True. But you have a distance when you're on Facebook, you know, like you don't have to ever meet up with somebody. But I was thinking like, oh, he's a decent person.

He's a retired special agent. So I was like, okay, that's cool. And then I would see what he's posting. He's posting about his daughter. And I'm like, okay, he's single. And it's always like, where are the single men? You know, for your friends. You know, I'm thinking for my sister, for my cousin, for whoever, my friends.

And I did eventually approach him about a friend. And I was thinking like, oh, he'll be, you know, to do the couple things. Like, oh, my husband will love him. And then my, I'll be friends with the girl that I know already. And thank goodness they never hooked up and so he saw you on Bumble thought you

that's six that's six years later six years later uh huh and then he wanted you to swipe right to make that official yes

yes I'm like why did he ask you out on Bumble or on Facebook he he's asked me to to ask

he asked me if he could ask me out on Bumble. I'm like, this makes no sense. I'm talking to you right now. Certainly a gentleman. Yes. Asking permission to ask permission. Right.

On another site. So I'm like, uh-uh. So then he picked me up from Christmas. I mean, the holidays when I came home from Florida. And we've been together ever since. And I never even saw his site Bumble.

I never, you know, so I was on a dating site for 20 minutes. And he lives in Florida. No, he lives here. He lives here. Yeah. Yep. He lives here. How's it going?

It's going great. It's so much better now that I'm single. But then I was wondering, like, was that kind of the glue? Like, it's so taboo. Yeah, that's probably the answer I'd say the glue like it's so taboo you know like it's so taboo like oh my goodness like and

it's been two years of me talking about ah if I can get this divorce get it now we get it and it's like huh crickets

there you go what was the thing was he always supportive in the awkwardness that was you being

married or did it ever, because we do get a lot of people who ask questions like that. I'm getting a divorce, I'm separated, when is it okay to date? And like, listen, it depends on what, there's so many variables, right? A lot of it is, you know, what your comfort level

it is, are there kids involved, finances, and then if you start dating, like, are they cool with it? Like, sometimes you just don't want to have to explain your situation to people all the time. How was he with that and what advice would you have? What worked in that situation that you could offer to our audience

of anyone going through that? The do's and don'ts of dating while technically married. Yes, I'm open, but I'm always, I guess I'm naive because I really didn't think it was going to take that long.

Because I was in a relationship like, we have two different lives. We're not even talking. This makes no sense. So I thought it was going to be like, boom, boom. Like, you don't care about me. I don't care about you. We just don't care. But then all of a sudden, when Gus entered the picture, like I got child protective services called on me. The police came by, called 911 on me. I'm like, if you cared this much, you know, we wouldn't be in this situation if I had saw a little initiative before.

So it was almost like he came more attractive after he was trying to throw me in jail. So I'm like, not once, not twice, but three times. The last time was two weeks ago. So I'm like, okay. So it was a bit of a toxic relationship. Now, yeah. Well, I'll put it like this.

The person that you marry is not the person that you divorce. Like you going with all rose colored glasses. You don't know what's going on. You're just like, oh, you're just so cute. And then when it's time to go, you're like, where did that come from? Oh, the quietness that you have now is like the sneakiness. We're talking about the qualities that you enjoyed in someone is now what's driving you crazy. I can't get any information like, are you taking her here?

Are you picking up from school? Blah, blah, blah. Before it was like, he's so quiet. You know, I'm so loud. Now it's like, he's so quiet. You know? Oh! You know, so.

Yeah. Yeah, I can I can relate to that but my boyfriend since we've known each other for 10 years and I'm I'm telling everything

on my Facebook on Instagram he knew this the situation and he's also divorced but just years longer

than I am because I'm one week divorced he's a former agent yes special agent I'm one week divorced. He's a former agent. Yes, special agent. I'm just like... Does he like...

And a private detective, which is really great when you're getting divorced. It's a really convenient thing, I feel like. Unless you make him mad. Because the thing you like about him might be the thing you don't like

about him later. That's true. That's true. See? What's your therapist's name? Darlene. Darlene. Darlene,

I might have to call Darlene. That's true. You bring up a very good point. So I need, I just need to get it right. But a part of me is like, not quite pressure, but it's like,

I don't want to introduce my daughter to somebody else. This is working. This is cool. So I don't want to make the same mistake of trying to lock it. Like,

okay, this is it. But anyway, but want to make the same mistake of trying to lock it. Like, okay, this is it. But anyway. But I want more kids. You do. He's cute. And you, your first child. First and only.

You had through our IVF. 12 IVF. I'm kind of ignorant to that process. Okay. But I looked at your social. You had a surrogate. Surrogate. Yes. Thank you your social. You had... A surrogate? Surrogate. Yes.

Thank you. Yes. She's just white as hell over there. Yes. And that was an issue because it was like... Yeah. Right when that came out, right when I finally got the right, I call it my green eggs and his ham together.

And then, you know, in the refrigerator waiting. And then we had to find somebody who would be a surrogate. Now, a lot of people are ignorant to it. So people are like, oh, so you just want a white baby. Because she is just white, like English, Irish white. It isn't like she just, it's like an oven, really. Right. But people don't know that, you know.

I knew that. I'm very proud of you. And then. It's just more of a baking system i felt bad because there was a lot of i don't know which crisis was going on but it was a lot of tension between black and white and police and this and that during that time and we're talking about like yeah she's carrying my baby blah blah and then i just i started to get concerned because here's this woman walking around carrying this black baby where we're in the world where all of this turmoil just really started to heat it up, heat up. And I was like, oh my goodness. And plus

people were saying that if God wanted you, this is where I bond so much with my tribe, my people, I bond so much with my tribe, my people, my rainbow people, because people were telling me, if you really, if God wanted you to have a baby, then it wouldn't be so hard, you know? So there was a lot of gay people who understood my story and understood, because they were getting that same kind of like- Sure, that same energy. Yeah, like, you're not supposed to have kids so you this is why you have you shouldn't have to do IVF so I we were in the same boat together says the toxic parent who shames their kids over crazy ass things I'll be at uh Arizona Pride I mean you uh Saturday you know, you support people who support you. Yeah. So there we go.

Hey. So 12 5EFs and there's this woman who gives birth. And my daughter, not only is she black, she's black and everybody in the family. Like this child is nothing. There's nothing white about her. You know, I. Do you still have like a strong relationship with. I do.

How do you refer to her? Surrogate. Well, no, I call her tummy mummy. I'm like, this is the tummy mummy. This is your tummy mummy. This is the woman who gave birth to you. And there must be some bond. And I let her know, you know, and we send pictures and we're Facebook friends.

Like, you know, I guess I get all my relationships from Facebook. So anyway, I definitely post a lot because I know that she's looking in and I send her a message every Mother's Day and on her birthday because I wouldn't be a mom because of her. Thank you, white lady. What are you currently watching these days? Okay. So did you watch Nine Perfect Strangers?

Yes. Yes. That was crazy. It's trippy. It took me a while because, you know, like the name didn't really intrigue me, but I do like. Yeah, it's kind of like Nine Perfect Strangers. I was like, they didn't really go too wild on the name. So I kept like swiping, like whatever.

And it kept coming up. I'm like, let me watch this foolishness. Because I do like the actors in it but i just couldn't and then oh my goodness did you like it i loved it yeah these people are cray cray they are insane so i i really really really enjoyed it what was your biggest takeaway from it my biggest takeaway is that did you watch it all okay the black lady is crazy you know like that's just gotta be the nutty one at the end. Spoiler alert.

She found they were all kind of nuts. They were all kind of nuts, but not the nuttiest. She was violent. Yes, of course. Let's just say that. Black Mary Lewis, she was super violent and crazy. Great actress because

Regina Hill. Phenomenal. Yeah, because I didn't see that coming. I'm like, I can play that part. She's also one of the people that I get beat out all the time. Like you go to these auditions and you're like, darn, I should just walk out because I know she's going to get it. And it's like, you know them, you love them, but you're like, can you be busy enough? It's like if she's available, if you were going to hire me, you love them, but you're like, can you be busy enough? It's like, if she's available, if you were going to hire me,

you might as well hire her. Yes, I pray that you're just so busy that like we need a black woman, you know? Okay, everybody's busy. Everybody, everybody, everybody's busy. Let's hire Glozel. Finally, can you please? So I did enjoy that. And what, okay, I'm the main lady.

Nicole Kidman? Yes, oh my goodness. I was fascinated with her in that. I'm like, oh, my goodness. She's beautiful. She's intriguing. I don't know how she's doing the Lucille Ball one. I'm just trying to see.

Because she's going to play Lucille Ball. She's cast as Lucille Ball. Oh, is she? And I'm like, how? How is that going to happen? But I can't wait to see it. Hey I'll be the first one to bow down to see that because she's a phenomenal actor but I've never seen her in comedy

Yeah she's a phenomenal actor but she definitely is one of those actors who plays a certain I think what most people think of her. She plays a certain type of character extraordinarily well. Yes, yes. Right?

And there's a lot of great actors that we all love who do that. And I wish I could do that. And so we're not disrespecting Nicole. No, not at all. I'm rooting for her. I just don't see it. But obviously, I'm not casting.

You know, if I was casting, I'd be like, girl. I think a big part of Nine Perfect Strangers was the conversation around like psychedelics and the use of certain type of drugs. I want to do that. I've never done drugs. I've never smoked anything. I don't even drink.

This is tea. I've never had coffee. But there's this thing where you go and you drink something and you throw up. Oh, what's that called? It's called something. Hyloska. Hyloska, yeah. Yes.

Hyloska or? That I've never heard. That's close. That's a different one. Something like that. And then you just like go to another level. Like I've been getting into crystals and things. I'm like, just go to a high vibration.

I know someone who said, I heard the trees talk. I'm like, what does a tree have to say to me? You know? I've, I've, I've recently

for the first time had some mushrooms. Yeah. What? What happened? Not all that much. I was

very cautious and like, I didn't like go nuts, you know, like I took a small amount. It was interesting because there was a moment that made me kind of think about it afterwards because I said to people, they're like, what was it like?

And I was like, I felt like I was my best self. See, that's the problem. Yeah, and it bothered me. And then I got self-conscious about it because what I meant by that is because what I was was, I felt like I was the most likable I've ever been. And because I was my,

I was in public. I was among people. I was, yeah. And. You was tripping in front of a bunch of people? Yeah. Yeah. lights, music you know

yeah you're like I was in a safe environment I was at a festival I was in front of people there were lights there were music and I was very

cause like I'm hit or miss again I like I can be introverted and extroverted and when my like I just never really know

when my introverted side is going to come out. And when I'm in public like that and you're committed to a festival, it can be like a lot of anxiety. And so, and I was very, just very nice and likable and approachable. Who told you that? How do you know?

You could have been horrible. No, you're not, you're not like, it's not, you're aware of yourself. You're very aware. Yeah.. No. You're not like, it's not. You're aware of yourself? You're very aware. Yeah.

It's like you're in control, which is I think the thing that I. There's a misconception there. Misconception is like, because you're psychedelic and you're like, okay, different world. It's like I'm living in an animated TV show. No, like I have full.

You sound like you're an expert. You have something to honk. No, I just, I've done, like I feel like you moved to LA and then you realize that mushrooms are different than acid. You watch Nine Perfect Strangers, you're like, how could this be that? We're just talking about wellness and microdosing and you're like, okay, like, it's different than acid. I'm very interested, but I'm scared, I'm terrified, but I want to do it.

But then that made me think about, because I said to myself, I'm my best version of myself. And then I realized, well, maybe I was just more likable. well maybe I was just more likable and then I went down a rabbit hole of what does likable really mean because we had Susan Cain who wrote the book about introverts and extroverts

and we just have a society that for years told us that being extrovert was likable and being introverted wasn't and so then I thought to myself was I giving too much credit to this experience of like you know doing mushrooms and like feeling like I need to take to be a certain person or take this thing in order to be likable it was like a kind of a trippy kind

of self-awareness thing that I'm still like am I being too hard on myself and that's the thing I've been that's why I was asking that question. I have a hard time sometimes accepting that I am this way because I know that I will bring criticism towards me. At what level do I need to accept that? At what level is my responsibility to make other people feel more comfortable when they're around me does that make sense it does but i'm looking at you i'm like

you're hot don't nobody care yeah but being a hot most part being a hot tall quiet guy often who's an aloof dick people still like but you can make some pretty babies I always get you can make some pretty babies what I always get is another shot right right I'm just like

look at that perfect nose like it'll be alright that's how I've gotten away with it I understand it's because I'll I'll always get another shot

yeah look at that smile I'm like you can get another shot you can get another shot I'll just smile next time right but like it bugs me sometimes like I'll get smile next time but like it bugs me

sometimes I'll get very self-conscious and in my head but do you want to get that high again that's what is like

I also didn't even feel you don't feel high it's not like it's not like feeling drunk how do you know well I don't I have never

never drank did you have any like visual like or was it like very pleasing and interesting to look at certain things

right I didn't take all that. Could you smell the color red? I felt slightly euphoric. I was going around and being like, I don't know if this is the lighting or this is the mushrooms. It was a very pretty sunset.

After you say that, it is the mushrooms. I was saying that a lot. Everything was really pretty. Would you do it again? Or have you done it again? Yes. Yes, you would? Yes and yes.

Okay, so was the second experience... But I was self... I think that initial thought I had and then thinking about that thought, it's just like I'm very... I never touched any drugs other than alcohol until into my 30s. So I was very much a late bloomer, which I'm really glad because I did it when I was mature

and I could source it from responsible areas and I was doing it in safe places and et cetera, et cetera. But I don't- A festival. The safe place of the festival is just what I want to make sure that's what you're talking about. Yeah. In front of a bunch of people, I was very safe. Okay.

But I don't like the idea. It kind of almost scared me that I had that thought about myself, about who I was as a person, you know, being on it, you know? And so that made me want to be like, sure, I'll do it again but I'm less anxious to try

it again because I don't want to feel like I need it to be like, because a lot of people will be like, that's why they drink. To loosen up and certainly Liquid quench. Yeah, and so I don't like that feeling of

needing something to be a certain way around people. Okay. Would other people like, could you take some more, please? Probably. Well, that's what I worry about.

Can we get that guy back? Get the guy some fucking drugs. Here, here's some fungus for the fungi. There you go. Make him a fungi. I don't know. So you're open to trying it.

I am open to try. I keep saying when I'm 90, I'm going to drink coffee. You've never had coffee. I've never had coffee. And I want to do, at the time, you know,

it would have been weed. But now that's legal, so that doesn't seem as fun. You know, so something wild and crazy on those lines. But like the mushrooms, and we're watching? So something wild and crazy on those lines, but like the mushrooms and we're watching Perfect Strangers and I'm just like, ah, I do want to go.

I want to hear the trees talk. Like what vibration is that? But I want to be able to come back. I'm scared that I might stay up there in space and not come back or come back different. Because when you meet somebody who used to be on drugs, you know that they used to be on drugs. I'm like, oh, somebody who used to be on drugs, you know that they used to be on drugs. I'm like, oh, that chick used to be on drugs.

I think there's a strong misconception and I think that requires an extraordinary amount of abuse and of using it. Some people can trip one time and you're like, you know, something bad, you know? Yeah, I'm not an expert, so I don't want to say things I don't know. But I think for the most part,

you can do it safe and responsibly but I don't know but yeah I'm in no way trying to encourage you to use yeah no I'm not I'm not close to 90 but I figured you know when I get to 50 next year I might do some Botox and you know that I'm gonna see how that go well actually after I have my next kids I I am just I'm putting it out there. It's going to have to be a miracle because I just got a divorce. I have a boyfriend, but I do want more kids. I don't want my child to be an only child. So I'm like, I'm going to wait for the other stuff,

even though that might help eggs grow. I don't know. And again, forgive my ignorance. Would you have to also do IVF then too? Yes, unless it would be a complete, complete miracle. It would be considered a miracle. Yes. Because that, my daughter now is a miracle because doctor after doctor said, no, no, no.

You know, you need to use someone else's egg. You need to use. So when I got to a doctor, I was like, well, you can use your egg and so on. So you just can't carry. I was like, I'll go for that. And then here you come. People are like, there's'll go for that. And then, here you come. People are like, there's so many people

that, you know, children you could adopt. Why are you doing that? You know, no matter what you do and what decisions you make for yourself, especially when you do it publicly,

people come at you. Yeah. So you have to be strong, you know, no matter what. I can only imagine the criticism or heat because like,

you know, when you adopt a dog or not adopt a dog. What? It's a purebred? You know, no matter what. I can only imagine the criticism or heat because like, Oh my goodness. You know, when you adopt a dog or not adopt a dog. What? It's a purebred? You know, you should have gone

to the pound. You know, okay. I think it's great if you have the heart and capacity to adopt in any. Yes.

And if you don't, I also think it's okay. Still might do it. But I'm just saying that this is the route I wanted to go. I did not adopt Jeff. Jeff's my dog.

Oh. And I quite love him. So you didn't go with like an animal name, like Fido, Poofy, I don't know. Poofy. Jeff. Jeff. He's like, all right. He's a Jeff.

Yes. That's right. I love that. He got in some hemorrhoid cream this morning. Oh my goodness. And who's hemocream is that? Is got in some hemorrhoid cream this morning. Oh my goodness. And whose hemorrhoid cream is that? Is it for under eyes or under the keratin? His butt keratin.

Yeah, it's for the under eyes. It's for totally cosmetic. Yes, yes. It helps with the puffiness either way. If it's the little raisin in between your crack or if it's under your eyes, it'll help get rid of that puffiness. What do you worry about these days?

What do you worry about? What do I? Well, I used to. I realized that I've been worrying so much about this divorce, this divorce that I've lost weight. I'm like, well, stress? Fattening? You know, like stress is. Because now I haven't changed anything and things are looser and everything. And so I do worry about now and I try not to because I do my meditations and my prayers and I light my candles and I got my crystals about finances and having more kids.

And then it's like you have to have faith or believe that you can have more kids when reality is like you ain't got no money for no kids. And then it's like, you have to have faith or believe that you can have more kids when reality is like, you ain't got no money for no kids. You know, to have the surrogate, that's over $120,000. That's just resting. You just have to already have that because you go into doctor appointments,

she has to go to doctor appointments, you know, to even build up the IVF. It's like- That's the cost, because I'm assuming there's- So it's costs so much. But my daughter was on layaway. You just do a payment plan,

like a car. I'm like, I might finish paying for you, girl. You're still paying for it. I'm still paying for you, child. You just put it on a payment plan. She's like, what's for Christmas? And you're like, you. You, exactly. People ask her, what do you want to be when you grow up? I'm like, you're going you you exactly exactly you know she's like I'm like people ask her what

do you want to be when you grow up she's like you know I want to be I'm like you're gonna be an IVF doctor because I'm gonna get my money back that's what you're gonna be little girl but um when you you have to pay for the surrogate and she's going on bed rest or she's going to her doctor's appointments and she's got to eat and all this stuff so you're looking at least 120 000 wow and somehow somebody gonna give it to me or something because i'm going to have another job that's all i know next time i'm on your show you'll be like what how's jeff jr doing i'll be like i don't know jeff well you are someone who's talked a lot about overcoming adversity, right? True. True.

I've overcome the adversity of age because already at 43, people, they're like, you are too old to be doing. You just too old. You should have done this in your 20s. Who in their 20s trying to do IVF, you know? But I would tell my daughter to do that. You know, just freeze your eggs because then you have the freedom. I'm not trying like, okay, even though this man

is not talking to me, we need to have a baby. You know, you're not, you're trying to make things happen. So, there you go. Unless it was you. There you go. There you go.

You can not talk. Eat your shrooms at the festival. I just need a baby. If, going back to relationships and dating and you're obviously a self-aware honest reflective person yes

what are red flags about yourself red flags about myself if you were to you're in love you got a boyfriend yes if you weren't if you were dating

and and even now yes what would be like like I probably like I'm all raps about myself yeah

okay like that you're like I should not do this it's not like something that someone's gonna get annoyed but they like you about you now it's like

I need to not be okay with me doing this although this is everyone you know I have to let them know that I am a hoarder.

Really? And the problem with being an influencer, we were called YouTubers at the beginning. People send you shit. Yeah, all the time.

All the time. And it's good stuff. I'm like, I need all five of these hourglasses. You have seven coffee makers. What are you talking about? Like,

this came from days of our lives and this one came from the, like I've got five, you know, what am I going to do with it? But they're good things. I'm not, I can't just throw it away.

Like I. Give it away. But okay, see, that's the thing about a hoarder. I want it. I want it. I want it.

This is my. Do you work on this? I have several times. On what level of hoarding are we talking here? We're talking like we had people come in because I was just like a dead kid away. You know, like. They could have been a dying animal.

Yes, yes. Like, really, like you shouldn't live like this. And what happened was when, and just so happens, look at the universe. Thank you, universe. The day I had my friend Tracy, she she's a um a declutterer come over the next day is when um the police came to check out my place to see that that my daughter was living because he's like she lives in filth and she beats her and all these other things that weren't true however the house was a little unkempt but when they came over there was literally

bubbles in the toilet i was like oh come on in come on in yes but i the lord works in mysterious ways but i do i do have an issue i have a problem like and then then you're in things it's like oh i'm in this magazine i'm in people magazine i'm in vanity fair so you get 80 of them you know you get it you know and like but i can't throw it away because that's me so there's a part of me is like is it though see okay okay um definitely what's the you trying to be what's her name uh darlene yeah okay darling it's true like you connected to like what if nothing you know vanity fair is huge this is it this is this is me in it and you get attached to like this moment and not like there's more coming you know you're Fair is huge this is it this is me and you get attached to like

this moment and not like there's more coming you know you're kind of stuck trapped I don't know so is this something

that you've recently identified and are you like trying to not be or you're just like this is I'm trying not to it's easy to throw away

stuff that my ex has given you know now my ex you know maybe just like tape his face to all their items just so it's

because I don't want that to be an issue with my boyfriend Augustus but he's like you know what does he say about that well you know I had it all right in the beginning but now it's been two years and now it's like the stepping over stuff and I'm like okay I just push it in this corner I just push

it in that corner so it's I mean like I working on throwing giving stuff away but then I'm the person to go back in the dumpster I'm like oh but what if she wants this even though it's too small you know and so I I so I do have that issue and I can hide it for a little bit and stuff it away in different ways. But- Is your storage optimized? The storages?

Yes. Storages. Yes. So those are all full. So you're paying lots of money to store free shit. Yes. And I will advertise for any storage place,

you know, so I can get it for free let's get that storage sponsorship yes yes because i and you get good like oh yeah you get good there's something being delivered every day and i'm good at advertising it because i have fun i'm really excited even if it's something i'm like suntan lotion i love suntan like you're like i don't i'm never going to use this. I've accidentally given things away that I shouldn't have given away. I'm the opposite. See, I'm like,

I can't do it. I'm like, I can't. I don't know. Like, I got another coffee maker. I don't drink, but I'm like, I could open a bar. You know,

like the last thing, Kevin Hart has this talk show and when they drink about certain things, blah, blah, blah. He sent me three wine bottles. I'm like, it's from Kevin Hart. How can I give this away?

Drink it. Oh, you don't drink? Yeah, I've never had alcohol. Do you throw parties? No. Close out. What if you give it to me and I'll send you videos of my exact tasting notes of exactly what goes down? You know what?

That might help because I'm like, I want to make sure that it goes to a nice place. And one time I actually had to downsize and I had this table and you put it up on Facebook or whatever. Like, come get this table, blah, blah, blah, for 25 cents or whatever I was selling it for. And I wanted to be friends with the lady who got the table because I wanted to see how the table was. She thought I was so nice. I'm like, so I don't know what's your number or. Imagine the rummage sale you could have, the garage sale. But I'll be getting everybody.

You'll be fighting them off of it. I'll be getting everybody. Negotiating. How much for this? $500. And then jump in the car with them like, take the money back. I want it. I don't drink coffee, but this is a current. This is a good thing. Someone gave it to me.

Why do I feel like GloZell would have the same relationship with the people who bought her stuff as she does with her surrogate? She'd like start sending them cards on Christmas. Be like, hope the table is treating you well. I think about that table now. It's been like three years. I think about that. I'm like, is it okay? Is it all right? Do they love it? Did they throw it away yet? I don't know. It's almost

bringing a tear. I'm really trying to... I have an issue. I have an issue. I don't know why I connect to... What do you call it? I wonder... I'm sure there's a psychology behind what causes that. I feel like it's all about scarcity versus abundance.

So it's like if you're in, even if you have abundance, but you're in kind of a mindset of like scarcity, like I have to make sure I have enough. Right. I mean as a child what was your childhood? I think this all comes from our childhood stuff, right? I'm a second generation hoarder. my mom is a hoarder too yes she's got like 200 folding chairs we have over 10 upright pianos we have over 70 rugs on top of a uh wall-to-wall shag carpet so i'm like and when

i go there i'm like oh oh and then then i go home like oh i'm just like i'm this she's just ahead of me you know she's just like 50 just ahead of me you know she's just like 50 years ahead of me you know but my daughter's used to like let me get in the car let me climb over this and i'm like uh so i i have done that and i have to keep doing that especially if the police gonna continue to be called on me but i i do i mean that helps he doesn't realize like you are helping me but don't call the police anymore you know they're all like is filth a crime you know because why did you look at me Nick

I'm just looking at the room I keep thinking that homeless people get to keep their kids you know there's people in shelters that get to keep their kids so I'm like this is the base I'm like I'm in a luxury place however you know my boyfriend's like you know what every time I'm here you always have garbage bags I'm like oh luxury place. However, you know, my boyfriend's like, you know what? Every time I'm here, you always have garbage bags.

I'm like, oh, okay. So you hear it. Like, I can't imagine years down the line that, you know, every time I walk out the door, I'm like, just take something to the trash. We're talking bags. I can take the, because you take out the, I don't know, whatever it is, the mug. Oh, got it. It comes in this big box. It's got like 5,000 candies in it. And I'm like,, whatever it is, the mug. Oh, got it. It comes in this big box. It's got like

5,000 candies in it. And I'm like, but the box is so nice. You know, Nick gave me such a nice box. You know, I don't want to throw away the box. And then I was on like a Kardashian show once, and I'm like, they can't find that Kardashian. I can never give it away. You know, but I don't want anybody else to use it. Like, you've got sunglasses in this. I'm like, don't touch that. Like, I want to hurt you if you touch it. But you're certainly able to appreciate it. Like, you've got sunglasses and this. I'm like, don't touch that. Like, I want to hurt you if you touch it. Well, you're certainly able to appreciate things.

Yes. Thank you. See, you are bright and sunny. It's a good and a bad way to look at anything. Right. I'm telling you,

the thing that you like about somebody, like, oh, it's a great thing. How do you channel that? Yeah. Right. Right.

How do you channel that? Well, right. How do you channel that? Well, I work on my stuff all the time because I know the end result. You know, somebody can't live with somebody when stuff is stacked, like literally stacked, stacked, stacked, stacked, stacked. Being the open person that you are, and I'm assuming the answer is yes,

but I guess if so, in what way? What is, like, do you ever regret being so open and honest because it's used against you? Because people like to do that, right? You show your vulnerability and then people kind of like, you know, store that admission away until they can use it against you. I don't regret it. However, it has been used against me. We'll probably get to this.

And this is one of my sayings, like to that own self be true. I've tried to be other people and it doesn't work. I'm an open person. I don't know why I feel like I'm about to tear you, bringing up the over in me. But, and so I'm coming from a sincere place. Like somebody else that's vicious, they can take that. Like, oh, okay, she just said that she needs to clean up. This is the day that the police come. Like, I don't know what the thought process is. But, and I do get it all the time.

Why are you telling all your business? I didn't know, like, I would have to do 12 IVFs. I'm thinking, I'm going to do my little green smoothie, get my little wheatgrass. You know, everything going to be fine. I'm going to have this wonderful baby, you know, and it went on. But from the end result of that is that so many women have come up to me and given me messages and hope because I was 43. You know, people are having issues at 30 as far as with having babies. And so here I am not thinking that I was going to be

the spokesperson for IVF but I kept going and if you keep going and you were 43 when you had your daughter yes 43 and now at 49 I'm like

it's going to happen again you're 49 I know you're like you look great you look amazing thank you thank you am I allowed to say that

like damn yes you're allowed to say that because I'm telling you you, so I'm getting better. You know, just don't come to my house. You got to let me know when you're coming over so I can move things, you know, under the couch and under the bed and under this, you know. So you can, you know, that's it. They're great things, but I want to keep it all. Do you have a maid or a housekeeper?

I have someone who comes to help me out I did before like definitely a maid person I have a jack of all a Jane of all trades which is Mariah who's out there right now because I was like how am I going to get there she's like I'll drive you

I'm like okay thank you so much because I'm not the best of the best drivers. I'm not either. I'm just. Why are you bad? Well, yeah, because I grew up in Florida. Everything was flat.

I'm not understanding driving on mountains. I just do not get that concept. And I'm like mad at California because I'm like, who thought that was okay? Do you think it's because, and this is why i'm a bad driver i'm i maps it minded and i have a short attention span and so like i must i suppose like the straight like it's so i don't have to turn for 20 minutes so i'm good but here there's a lot of turns and windy roads oh my goodness what was it a cold water there's like one way you know it's a two flight, you know, and so you can't go around. If you go around one way, there's like a cliff that you'll die.

And the other one is the mountain and cars coming through. People blow the horn. And then there was a coyote that came across. I'm like, I've got to die. So I do. And my attention span is true. I'm like, oh, I miss. I miss the exit because I was singing Ariana Grande. And now I'm like, oh, I miss, I miss the exit because I was singing Ariana Grande

and now I'm like, oh, and the GPS is like, turn around, you have missed, recalculating, recalculating. And I'm like,

in another city, another state. I mean, I've done that so many times. So I get the absent-mindedness. What is that? That's totally like, ding, ding, ding,

that's me. Yeah, I mean, I'm just, I'm in my thoughts a lot I don't know I probably also

like I have ADD do any of you have you seen anything about ADD I feel like there's been a big resurgence on TikTok about like people

being like oh adult ADD is a thing and not saying that like anybody did it ever go away what people are like rediscovering this

I didn't yeah I feel like there's a big well I think there's a big push of like especially women, are a really underdiagnosed group of people with ADD. I feel like there's been a lot of awareness raised on TikTok.

A lot of people are like, I have ADD. But then it sometimes crosses over into too many people being like, oh yeah, I have ADD without getting any kind of diagnosis. We live in a time, it's always this balance of mental health, awareness, working on ourselves, these terms of dating, narcissism, all these things. And now we're starting to identify with them as, oh, I'm this and I'm that. It's like I get to say I'm ADD and feel like I'm part of a group now. Oh, okay, okay.

Or I dated a narcissist. We're like, maybe you just dated a dick. Right. I feel like I'm the opposite. I don't want to claim anything because I'm thinking people with ADD is like, choo, choo, choo, choo, choo. They're all over the place where I'm more like, I got to be there on time. I got to get there.

And I don't know. Maybe so. Like, oh my goodness. What's her name? Darlene? Darlene. Yes, Darlene. Okay.

You just Darlene me. Could very well be possible. And that probably somehow connects with mushrooms that kind of help you like, you know, at a festival. Yeah, it's like you're going to leave this interview with a diagnosis. I'm like, yes, I have been healed. i've been to church i i've no solutions though i wouldn't know the first thing about hoarding yeah that's one of that's one of the things and and kind of hoarding and not hoarding because

it's not like i go out and like where is the next you know blender things come to me i just don't want to get rid of them. So a hoarder is a person who just kind of like... Seeks it out more. Seeks it out, like goes to the garage sales. I'm not that. I get the stuff. I love the stuff.

I advertise the stuff. I just don't give it away. What makes you roll your eyes the most in life? Like being out in the street. Oh, being out in the street. Just like interacting with people. I was going to say people who are late. I cannot stand that. It triggers something in me the most in life? Like being out in the street. Oh, being out in the street. You know, just like interacting with people. I was going to say people who are late.

I cannot stand that. It triggers something in me because my parents never picked me up on time. You were very much on time. They never picked me up on time. But yet I was like, went to a white school.

Like I was only- Did you have to like call collect? And I'm like, why are the black people always late? They were never on time. Here comes the greens. You know, they were never on time. So I have-

I know, my parents were white and they were pretty late often. But they had 10 kids. But you were they were never on time I know my parents were white and they were pretty late often but they had 10 kids but you were with other white kids you're not hanging out with Tyrone and Keisha you know

I was with you know I know like 100 Karens and they were all nice to me by the way but yes so I cannot stand the lateness

that I'm getting better with that things that make me roll eyes i because i'm older and i feel like i'm a little prudish so i have to work on that also because i have a daughter who's several generations different than me you know so clothes people's clothing father i don't want to see your behind i don't want to see your midriff you know i don't want to see your behind. I don't want to see your midriff. You know, I don't. So I seek out like private school. You have a uniform?

Okay, great. That's wonderful. Interesting. Yes. So you're conservative in your. In a way. Like I said, I'm going to pride, you know, Arizona. But yet I'm very conservative. Conservative with like how people dress.

I mean, you're conservative in all aspects of your life. Because I'm going to see a whole of your life because I'm going to see a whole lot of things I'm going to be hey we're going to have a good time however I am conservative

in certain things so I guess I don't know yeah how can you be conservative and go to pride I don't know that was weird

but that is how I am you absolutely could well you know we live in a world that's everyone wants to think it's all this or that,

and there's no nuance. But yeah, you can have conservative points of view. My daughter's in cheerleading, but I won't let her wear the little half-top thing in the short shorts. She's in long sleeves. And do you fight with her about that? Fight with her? She's fine.

I don't know. No, no, no, no. I feel like nowadays kids are fighting with their parents earlier and earlier. Yeah, well, she wants to because all her friends

are wearing the cute little... But I'm like, she's fine. That's what I'm saying. I mean, there's some places where kids run the household. Well,

she can't run too many places until I move stuff out of the way. I'm sorry. Don't call the police on me, y'all. What are your pop culture passions these days?

Pop culture passions these days? You're into pop culture, yeah. I'm cool like that, I guess. I'm down with my homies. We were discussing Pete Davidson before you came in. What is the... What's the draw? down with my homies. We were discussing Pete Davidson before you came in.

What is the... What's the draw? The draw is that my internet daughter, Ariana Grande, dated him. And I hope this doesn't make her upset because you don't want to make the Grandes upset. I'd rather not. But I'm just saying that

I think it made him bigger than life and some people might have been scratching their heads too but she started the trend of successful powerful women dating him and ever since then it's like

now become a thing she loves hard she cares about you so he must the first thing I thought was like not become a thing. Yes. And she loves hard. She cares about you. She cares about you. So, he must... The first thing I thought was like,

wow, he must be funny. This guy is talented. He is funny. He is. And, you know, so, and I wish him well with whoever he's dating.

He's dating some... Oh, is it KK? Well... Is it KK? Is he dating KK? Like, is he dating KK? Are they working on some kind of project and you see them together? Because Kanye, the other K, he ain't going nowhere.

At this point, is it fair to wonder if anything Kim does is like for herself or is it just another promotable opportunity? I think that it's a great promotable opportunity. Because yeah, Pete Davidson has now become a PR event. Right. When it comes to dating.

And he's a good writer. He's funny and he's on Saturday Night Live and she killed it on Saturday Night Live. She crushed it, yeah. So maybe she's trying to, you know,

they're going to work on other projects. I don't know. I also think like the environment of SNL, like especially for someone like Kim K, kind of being out of her element in that way. I imagine having like part of the reason I bet Pete Davidson pulls so much is because when people are feeling super nervous, like, you know, the adrenaline. It's having someone who's like cool and kind and calm and makes you feel safe, in this really scary situation like perfect for like meeting partners

I feel yeah he seems like someone who would make you feel welcomed yeah who would like make a little comment to like be like

ah don't worry about it like you know just to make you feel he never takes any moment too seriously I don't know that's what I don't know

anything about I would think humor you know cause all us comedians you know there's this you know darker side da da da but, you know, there's this, you know, darker side. But I think if you make somebody laugh, you

can bring, you know, their energy to a chill place. Well, and they did that whole like Jasmine, what's print, like Aladdin skit together. Like people like kissed on SNL and I also. Maybe he's just a really good kisser. But also also he's got nice lips

they did like such a public date at like the amusement park I'm like if you were actually dating I feel like you would just do that behind closed doors I bet you there's a project

that they're working on together I'm like why are we riding rides but right but I still like I like seeing where whatever he

who's he's dating now and where's what's Kim doing you know I'm interested I check every day you know where, where's, what's Kim doing? You know, I'm interested. I check every day. You know, you're like, TMZ, what's going on? Do you have a celebrity crush?

Do I have a celebrity? Yes. Yes. I have a few. They're a little older. Is that okay? Sure. Okay.

As long as they're adults. Yes. Oh yeah. I love David Beckham. Yeah. I mean, I know him at a coffee shop once. Shut up. Yeah.

He used to have like... He's the first celebrity I've asked for a picture. Really? I wouldn't be able to do it. Do you still have that photo? Fuck yeah. It's on Instagram. I wouldn't be able to even talk.

Like that's when I... It was a self-aware humbling moment. I think I've told this story before, but I did the very thing sometimes I will be critical of. I I was like hey do you mind and then I then I blamed it on my mom and sisters of like why I was asking for the picture and then I was like fuck it it's for me you know I love I love David Beckham of course and a very hot hot person. Oh, is he? Good Lord. I've never even watched a soccer game or a basketball, whatever he does. Football, I don't care.

Soccer and football in a way. Okay, there you go. Okay, I knew he played soccer. That's like a side hustle. He's professionally hot. He is. I'm kidding. But yes, he was a professional for all of your soccer and football fans.

Yeah, I've heard in the UK he's stewing right now, Nick. I already have Canada mad at me about basketball. Trying to start World War III over sports. I love Beyonce, too. I don't think, there's people that I don't think I could speak to.

You know, like, I'll just be standing there like, you know I want to take a picture. Just take somebody, take this picture, and I'm good. Who's the most overrated celebrity in your mind?

Overrated celebrity? That's very interesting. Okay. Help me stay on track here because I was telling you about how I get along. Overrated celebrity. I would be in the comedy club and there would be people who were not funny. Just not funny. And they ended up inspiring me because they kept going.

They kept going. They kept showing up. I'm like, people are booing you. You are terrible. You're never going to make it. I'm literally going, how do you keep coming back? Quit. Move back to the Midwest. Yes. Go anywhere. Just stop showing up at the comedy club. And then they kept going. And then you started seeing commercials or something like, you can't act. You're still terrible. commercials or something like, you can't act. You're still terrible. And in movies, you are horrible. So overrated, there is no overrated because you kept going and you keep doing stuff.

I feel like I'm super talented, but however, you can get trapped in your mind and like, okay, I got to go to the red carpet. You got to do this. You got to, you know, but they keep going. So whoever's overrated and people see them, you know, I think that that's great because there's so many people who are talented you'll never see because they can't get out of their own mind or everything's got to be so perfect

before they start to do anything. Yeah. So there you go. Well, when you told that story, it made me think about, I just like thought about like secondhand embarrassment and how I don't think it

actually exists because all secondhand embarrassment is, is you being embarrassed that you can't do the thing you're watching being done. Like for example, like when you see the comedian bombing, whatever it is, and you feel what you call secondhand embarrassment, they're not embarrassed. Somehow.

So it can't be secondhand. What you're feeling is you being embarrassed, just like you could be embarrassed about anything. And you're feeling it because you know, I can't do that. I don't have the guts or the strength or the determination or the perseverance. So like secondhand embarrassment is a made up thing that we say to make other feel people bad, knowing that we couldn't do the thing that they're either trying to do or have the talent or the strength to persevere. I totally, totally, totally agree with that. You know, I'm like, you're awful. You don't have, you know, you just, and that's in any business any business you're just like how did that person move up there they showed up for

me in the comedy club I wasn't the one that brought the house down but I was there on time so while you waiting for so and so the big headliners come in they're not here I'm here you're gonna get this right here and that's how a lot of times I end up hosting and booking things because I was there. And that was my thing. Not the funniest one in the comedy club. My funny really came on YouTube being more physical

and that kind of a thing. But in certain arenas, I'm like, that was my superpower. So yes, I would see people bomb over and over and over again. And now some of them are,

I see them all the time. And I'm like, what? And that's just how it is. Keep going. Overrated? No, no. Get your job, honey. Get all of them.

But the black women, can y'all just be just so busy that I can get one of them their jobs? Do you feel like there, cause I feel like there's been a big push, like if for the past few years. A black push? Yeah, or like just a push for like a conversation about like representation and like the kinds of stories that we're telling,

the kinds of characters featured in those stories. I don't want to be a slave, but if you offer me a job, I will run away. Well, do you feel like- Cause it, I'm just, oh God. Do you feel like it's like in people's awareness and want to tell more like diverse or just like stories that are not so limited? Do you feel like that's actually translated from someone from like a working black female actor like a talent? Do you think that is translated?

Have you seen that shift from your perspective of the industry? It's growing because like we said, Nine Perfect Strangers, that, well, I was going to say, well, that's not a traditional role for a black woman, but then she was the one that was the most violent and killed. So I don't know. It was killing. So, but it still wasn't like, you know, only the principal,, the bus driver, only the person that works in the cafeteria. So, you know, there's only so many roles and so different types of things. And I think it is expanding and I would like to be on that part, you know, but you do get a part, like I got a child, I got to eat.

I would do, I would tap dance while eating fried chicken and, you know, grape juice. But right now, juice but right now uh those those things are uh we have evolved and i think they are trying you know just one and what's helped is the internet you know because i didn't have an agent before but this is how i met ariana she's like i'm a fan come to my birthday party i'm like tell your mama mama that this middle age woman is showing up to your sweet 16. I think you might need to let her know something, you know, because I'm thinking like my audience looked like me, but my audience didn't look like me. Sure. So that the internet gave me a chance because they're like, you're funny. We like you. I just

want to play, you know, where the agents at the time and the people who were getting the parts was like, you have to go through this agent and they better like you and you better know them. They better know your mom. You know, you better make sure that you bring gifts and all this stuff. Your resume better be tight where now it's like, well, you know, you can create your own reality. And for free, you can post for free. That's how I made it here. And now there's a new involvement. There's time for me to keep what I'm doing, but grow.

And still wanting to do that at 49. Remember, y'all said I look good. Great. Grisel. I like that name. That might be my next child's name. Grisel. I can't name. That might be my next child's name. Grisel. I can't talk.

It's all good. I'm still in this mug, by the way. Such a pleasure having you on. Before we let you go, you down to play just a fun game? Oh, Lord. Yes, I'm down. I'm down.

I don't know what. It's real simple. Okay. It's called Do You Know Me. Do I. Okay. It's called Do You Know Me. Do I know what? It's called Do You Know Me. Do we know you, basically. Oh, do you know me?

That's the goal. Okay. And I feel like we've certainly gotten to know you. We are. And thank you for your transparency and honesty. Child. This is just more of the same of what you've been doing. They're going to be crying then. Why is she saying so much?

You know, I have to block my mama again from Facebook. And just don't call me right now. Block your mama. I've blocked her so many times. Call this episode, Block Your Mama. Yeah, I block my mama all the time. How you got a boyfriend? You still big.

Oh, Lord Jesus. Block. I don't want to hear that. I can't. I can't. Because even though you big and strong. Block your parents. I had to block her because you got to live.

The very same person that I'm trying to impress my mom. You know, I want her to be proud. You know, so when she says it, it's a million times worse than somebody saying, oh, look at that gorilla on the internet. Like you get all kinds of insults. But, you know, so, yeah, I had to block my mama. She blocked still on Facebook. So her friends tell her what I post, but she don't get it from me you are blocked gloria green all right do you know me with glozel yeah real simple i'm gonna ask you

yes i wanted to say the z was saying the G. It's my dyslexia. Well, my father was named Ozel. My mother is named Gloria. Gloria and Ozel is Glozel. My daughter is named Ozel. I like that name, Ozel. Thank you. Thank you.

All right, you ready? It's real simple. I'm going to ask you a question. Most of them are yes or no. And you can elaborate if you want. You also don't need to. I have a feeling you might. Oh, yes.

You know me so well. First question. Can GloZell drive a stick shift? Can GloZell drive a stick shift? I am from the country. So there was a lot of factories and tractors. And the answer is no, I can't drive. I can barely drive a stick shift or a regular shift.

Not a stick or a leaf or anything, nothing. Okay. Has GloZell ever left a bad review on Yelp? Have I ever left a bad review on Yelp? No, I haven't because I really feel like if GloZell leaves one, I don't want to shut a restaurant down. I'll shut somebody's business down because of my experience. And plus, you know. Maybe they shut a restaurant down. I'll shut somebody's business down because of my experience. And plus, you know,

they had a bad day. Exactly. Now there's some that I want to. The only thing I've ever complained about and will still are airlines. And I know it's like useless. I fucking hate it. We need to fight against airlines. It is so degrading. Why is flying the most degrading experience?

And my manager made a good point because fuck you American Airlines all day long. This podcast is not sponsored by American Airlines. Had a little trouble there, huh? They had all this time where no one was flying to say, you know what? What a great opportunity to look at some of

our processes and inefficiencies and see if you correct them. Nah. Nah. Nah. The indifference that people who work at an airport have, and I empathize with people who work at an airport because I'm sure they have to deal with a lot of cranky people, but there's just a level

of not my problem when it comes to... I don't get paid enough for this. Yeah, and I get it, but also like... Anyway, sorry. That's fine's funny this is for you it's okay we know that we know this answer but we'll ask it anyways and and maybe the question is why does closel own healing crystals oh gosh i took off so many because i didn't want to look so crazy they're in my purse like yeah and i'm like these are few but i have like

yes i have a lot of helical a lot and i put them out for the moon like i'm that person you know they look nice i like i think i might have a crystal in the house but i don't like i'm really getting into yeah i have a hundreds hundreds yes i'm a hoarder so there you go but why do you go but why what is what is because it's like this one is for they heal

positivity and this one is to help you stay strong like I'm going through a divorce for two years you know it's a placebo effect maybe

which actually placebo effect is but it works it's also something because placebos work it's existed for a while you know

like with stuff like that like I get that it's very different from like modern medicine or modern science but like I think there's some wisdom in like the fact

that a tradition has like carried on in humanity for so long you know it's like can we say with certainty that they don't work right

and they're pretty and they're from the earth well the mind's a powerful thing and it's like but even if all the the only thing they're doing is centering your mind, then it's like,

then they work. They work. They work for me. Like, this one is the one that I always wear every day. Let me see. What stone is it? It's nice. It looks nice. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. So, it's green and

it's a meteorite so it's it's one of those ones that after a meteorite landed then you get one

that you very famous on like you gotta get one of those and so I got one and there's a million more in my purse

but I got a moonstone I got some couple of ones okay sorry yeah we could do a whole episode on crystals. Hundreds of crystals.

Has GloZell ever spied on her neighbors? Has GloZell ever spied on her neighbors? Yeah. Yeah, dude. So yeah. Yeah. And they don't have to spy on me because they're like, why are the police always showing up at your house? I'm like, oh, goodness.

But yes, I do. I really want to know what folks doing. Yeah. And I'm from the South where you had a porch. That's what you do. You kind of drink your lemonade or your tea and you kind of look and see what's going on. I'm the woman. So I still carry that. I need to know what's going on. What y'all smoking in there? What y'all doing? What is it? Yeah. How often you take out your trash? Because I'm out there all the time. I got to take stuff out all the time. Yeah. So, yeah.

Has GloZell ever been injured during sex? Pass. My mama watched. Well, she... Pass, okay. We'll expect the pass. I believe in the pass. No, never. No, no, no.

It's really easy when you're not having it. Can't get injured when somebody's sleeping in the other room. You know, there you go. Does GloZell send out holiday cards every year? Does GloZell send out holiday cards every year? I send out holiday, like, messages. But my mom does,

and I give her the address, because she's traditional and comes through the mail. I'm not that way. Have you ever been cheated on? Have I ever cheated on not that i know let me take that back how cheating are we going i did okay because my phone like what do you mean okay this is one of the this is one of the stories we are in this room we you either cheated or you did it? This is going to probably... Cheating isn't nuanced. My phone used to be my ex-husband's phone. Okay? So it had some issues.

And all of a sudden when they rebooted it, I had his Facebook and all this other stuff. And I was like, wait, who is these messages? Who is this? And I thought it was mine. And I'm like, oh, it was from women. And like, oh, and they're going back and forth. I love you.

Emotionally cheated. Yeah. So there was no indication that they ever met up, but there was like, I love you and you love me and blah, blah, blah. And that helped me to two years later to- You were emotionally cheated on. Yes.

So I do, I count that. In certain circles, we could say that's worse. Well, hey, it's two years. Well, that happened about four years when I found out. And I'm still like, aloha, when I send that message. Like, aloha, because she lived in Hawaii. Final question. Has GloZell ever peed on the side of the road?

I peed on myself. I peed on myself. I peed on myself. I just did not make it. I was actually on the show, The Doctors, because of not being able to hold it. You know, that's probably why I can't carry a baby.

Yeah, yeah. And I was on the show, The Doctors, because of like, you pee on yourself. Now you thought like, this is going to be a funny question. Like, no, I actually have problems. I think you're Allie's hero. I pee on yourself. Now you thought like this is going to be a fun to quit.

Like, no, I actually have problems. I think you're Allie's hero. I got a pad on right now. Not because there's any bleeding going on, because I might pee on myself. That is true. Don't know how you want to check that, but that's true. It's a good place to wrap. That's what happens when you have somebody who steals everything.

Lizelle, thank you so much for coming. It's been a real delight. Can you let my audience know where they can follow you, any other projects you have coming up, where they can make sure they continue to enjoy your honesty? Thank you so much. Follow me on

all social media, GloZell. I will be at, of course, Arizona Pride. I have some NFTs coming out, which is exciting, so please follow me on all social media, GloZell. I'll be at, of course, Arizona Pride. I have some NFTs coming out, which is exciting. So please follow me on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, GloZell because it is also going to say where my next appearance is going to be, conferences that I'm going to, and

new projects that hopefully Monday get signed and then I can tell you some bigger things. Thank you so much. I'm buying my first NFT today, I think. Oh, really? Awesome. I'm proud of you. I have buying my first NFT today, I think. Oh, really? Awesome. I'm proud of you. I have a friend who tells me what to do.

Oh, I like that. Yeah. I like that. Okay, well, Glow's the one I trust. Yeah, it's good. Good, good, good. That's a good investment.

We'll see. Yes. All right. Thanks for listening, guys. Don't forget to send any of your questions at asknick at castmedia.com

cast with a K for our Ask Nick episodes. We appreciate Glozell coming on. She peed on herself. She pees on herself. She has a death grip on Obama and she pees on herself. She's a whore and she pees on herself.

She won't let go while she pees. Thanks for listening. We'll see you back on Monday. Alright. Thank you. thanks for listening we'll see you back on Monday alright thank you thank you you're crazy