The Viall Files - E365 Francesca Farago Dreams of Farm Life

Episode Date: January 5, 2022

Today we are joined by actress and Too Hot To Handle contestant, Francesca Farago. In this interview we dive into the downsides about sharing relationships on social media, how to ignore the rumor mill, and how being on reality TV and wanting privacy in your personal life are two different things. We also talk about finding your love language, how society is judgmental of someone with a lot of exes, and how you can be your own person even in a relationship. We also ask about how dating greatly differs when going out with men versus with women, and how jealously from your partner can be an issue when you’re bisexual.  “A lot of people see exes as a failure.” Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes.  Check out our new "Introvert" merch at www.viallfiles.com today! THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Brooklinen: Go to http://www.Brooklinen.com and use promo code VIALL for $20 off your purchase of $100 The Zebra: Get a free quote today when you go to http://www.TheZebra.com/Viall  Episode Socials:  @viallfiles @nickviall @francescafarago See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to a new and exciting episode of the Vile Files. I am your host, Nick, joined by Amanda. Allie is still flying. Jet setting. Still jet setting. If you're just tuning in for the first time this year, welcome to 2022. Got a Bachelor recap out already. Got an amazing Ask Nick episode you want to check out. And we have this episode with the very entertaining and wonderful Francesca Farago

that we won't spoil because you're about to listen to it. Any exciting news, Amanda? R.I. White. RIP. I just want to say I miss you. What a legend. So sad. I found that out on a quiet car when I was on an Amtrak from Boston to New York, and I had the strongest urge to stand up and announce it to everyone. I didn't, but I was so impacted by that news. It felt wrong. Yeah. And also at 99, they'd already been planning her 100th birthday party. Yeah. RIP. Anyway, I think we just have such a good episode today that we're going to just get right into it. I'm excited to bring you such a fantastic

slate of episodes this year. Can't wait. I'm going to bring the heat. Let's get to Francesca. Francesca, welcome. Thank you. How, I guess, starting off, like, do you have a, are you good about maintaining your photo in terms of current? Some people, I mean, it's different these days, but people will latch on. They have one good photo. And then the next four years, that's their go-to in every profile. No, because my look changes every few months.

So the hair changes, the makeup changes, the eyebrows change. So I have to upkeep. And that's a deliberate thing. Yeah. Well, I have hair and makeup, Chris. So we change every few months. We get bored, so we switch it up.

We shave half my eyebrow off. We start doing some pigtails. We dye it red. We dye it blonde. You've always been into that? No. No, because he does it for me. So it wasn't until...

So Chris is really the creative behind it. Yeah, he's the creative. Before him, I would just leave my hair natural, barely put makeup on. I was too lazy. But now I have him, I would just leave my hair natural, barely put makeup on. I was too lazy. But now I have him, so I just sit there. I'm on TikTok and he just wears his magic. Have you grown to enjoy it?

And now is it a passion? It's fun, yeah. Because I don't really have to do much, so I just sit there. So what are you up to these days? Welcome back to the States. Thank you. You were stuck in Canada for a minute.

I was stuck in Canada for four months, and then we went to Europe for five weeks. And I'm finally back. What did you do in Europe? We were supposed to go for 10 days, Paris, and then we ended up going to Manchester, London. Did you go to Paris at all? We did go to Paris.

I've never been. Yeah, it's beautiful. What was your favorite part? It's very aesthetic. Chateau de Versailles. I said that right? Should I know what that is? It's like this old palace that the rich people used to live in, I think.

And it's like super beautiful. So Paris is beautiful. Do you recommend it? 100%. And then you went to Manchester, England? Yeah, we were in Manchester. That was kind of unexpected. Who's we? Well, I brought my sister and Chris with me but back now for good hopefully okay yeah and I recently saw oh I was advised on your life story

here um that you went on your YouTube was it and and mentioned that you you're no longer going to be sharing things about your current dating life. Yeah. I think I decided that after me and my ex-girlfriend broke up last year because the breakup was really public and terrible. And that one you were like an open book and shared a lot? Yeah, we shared from the day we met. So it was very public, the whole thing.

And when I didn't want to be as public, she didn't agree with that. So when we broke up, it was just a mess. And when I broke up with my ex before that as well, it was a mess as well. So I didn't want to have to go through any public situation where people thought that they could give their opinions 24-7. So I decided that I wanted to keep my relationships going forward a little bit more private. I did date someone briefly like in the summer and him and I posted a little bit together. Not that much, like maybe a few TikToks and you couldn't really tell that we were dating. And then when I met someone else after that, I was getting like trashed again. So I was like, okay, like I'm actually done now because- Trashed how? People just comment stuff and they'll message the other person

all these theories about if there's cheating involved or if there's something that's going on or if they saw me somewhere. It's just like there's a lot of other opinions coming in. So there's just not really a point. Until I feel like if I'm engaged, maybe I can share the person. But until then, I'm not going to. I've decided. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. And now your girlfriend, your ex-girlfriend, was she also a public figure? Because I know, like, Harry, right? You refer to the other ex. Yeah, Harry's the other ex. Obviously, you guys met on the show. The show, yeah. So that's naturally a public relationship.

That was, yeah, from the start. We had no choice. But yeah, Demi was, she filmed a show in the UK called Towie with her sister. So she was kind of a public figure in where she was from. Gotcha. And so that made a bit sense why she was a little resistant

to not wanting it to be public. Yeah, I think she liked the attention as well. Do you like attention? When I control the narrative, yes. That's the dream, right? Yeah. I would agree. I'm the same. If I can control That's the dream, right? Yeah. I would agree. I'm the same.

If I can control, who doesn't like attention? It's okay sometimes. Yeah, but when it's out of your control, it can be very stressful. Overwhelming, yeah. What is something you've learned about yourself since being in the public eye, so to speak, being on reality TV? I don't know what I've learned about myself. I think a lot of people in my position

and people that I know that have been through a similar situation have kind of changed who they are. I've noticed that they get kind of like sucked into it, which I haven't done. So I feel like I've... Sucked into it how? Like they get like obsessed with like the attention and obsessed with doing anything to stay relevant, I guess.

But I think I've realized that it's not the end-all be-all. I'm really happy. I know what I want as an end goal and I just want to be happy and have a house with pigs and chickens and just settle down and have a normal kind of life but still be able to do social media and control my life in that way and obviously make money that way. with pigs and chickens and just settle down and have a normal kind of life, but still be able to do social media and control my life in that way

and obviously make money that way. But I've learned a lot about myself and about what I want in the future. So things become a little more clearer for you. Yeah. What's important and what's not important. Because you started off in the public eye being in a public relationship

and then your next relationship was more public. So for you like making an active choice to say I don't want to do this anymore could potentially be at a cost to your professional career. Well I don't want to do it anymore but I am doing things in the next

year that go against everything I just said, unfortunately. You're going to go back on a TV show? What, can you tease? I mean, I know you can't say. We can guess. Were you allowed to guess? I'll let you guess, yeah.

Okay, well, but that's, I'll give you some slack on that. I think that's a little different. Yeah. I think there's a difference between, I mean, yes, you'll get heat for the hypocrisy. Sure, no doubt because you're a public figure. But going on a reality TV dating show, if that's what you're considering doing

and still wanting some privacy in your real life romantic relationships are two different things. They don't always have to be the same. They're not mutually exclusive all the time. You're not like signing away your life to have to talk about a public relationship just because you went on a TV show.

After a bit of it though, you do kind of feel obligated to share. It's weird. The people like your fans and stuff get obsessed with the relationship. And when you give them what you want what they want what they want to see it kind of feels like an obligation at that point to share because it's like you I got like the followers and everything now from doing it

so I feel like people are they really want to know what's going on so yeah you feel this weird obligation to show your life and to show your personal life. I mean, I get what you're saying. Because I went to my cousin's wedding. And my girlfriend Natalie had to work. She couldn't get off work. We've been traveling a lot. And then I worked an event. So there's back-to-back events of what I posted without her there. So immediately there's two or three like, oh, they're broken up or what's going on.

And there's this kind of instinct to want to react to it, to tell people no or not or whatever. And it's exhausting at times. And so you don't want to, you're struggling back and forth with trying not to do that. Yeah, I think the hardest part of that is not necessarily been for me, but the partner that I've been with kind of gets the bad end of it. People will message them being like, oh, I saw her at this bar.

Oh, she's cheating on you. My friend said that she hooked up with her, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The list goes on. And even if I'm living with this person and spending 24-7 with them, they'll still get all these random DMs of false information. And it kind of gets to their head as well. So it becomes this huge external factor that you have to deal with every day. So you're stuck up in the rumor mill?

Why are they getting the worst end of it? I don't know. Because I don't know your ex at all. I certainly hear about him. He seems to say a lot of crazy or sometimes not good shit. But how is it not...

How are you not dealing with rumors? Because he seems to be out there. I'm really good with dealing rumors for myself personally, but I think it's the other person in the relationship that has more of a hard time with it. So it's not... you don't consider yourself, you're like a trusting, you're not jealous.

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Where do you get that confidence from? Or where do you get that kind of peace of mind to say, well, yeah, I could believe this rumor. Yeah. But I have no actual reason to believe it. I'm just going to go ahead and trust this person. I don't know. I developed this weird kind of sense of myself when I was a little bit younger. And if I'm in a relationship, I think in my head, like if this person is going to do something to break my trust, at the end of the day,

I know what I bring. And if they're going to devalue me like that, then I'm going to do something to break my trust at the end of the day I know what I bring and if they're going to devalue me like that then I'm going to find out eventually I'll just move on like I just don't let things like that affect me I don't know why I mean that's that's an amazing quality where then that's smart and I think that's everyone should do that but do you remember the like the moment that you learned that because I think the person, and I've been that person before, our egos make us think it's a reflection of who we are. And we react to it and then we kind of snowball. I read a book like four times, actually. It's called The New Earth by Eric Tohart. I don't know if you've heard of it, but the whole book focuses on your ego and how other people's actions don't affect you. It's a reflection of them. And I dated someone when I was younger, I was 18 and

he cheated on me with like all my friends, blah, blah, blah. It took me like two years to get over it. And then after that relationship and reading the book, I just really realized like it has nothing to do with me because I know what I bring to the table. And I think I'm an amazing person, an amazing partner, especially like I go above and beyond for the person that I'm with. So if they do something at the end of the day, like I'm like, whatever, like I'm an amazing person, an amazing partner, especially. I go above and beyond for the person that I'm with. So if they do something at the end of the day, I'm like, whatever. I'm just going to move on. It's not going to bother me that much.

Have you found that that kind of mindset, because that mindset is great, right? It also can be intimidating for the people who haven't read the book yet or aren't in touch with, have that self-awareness about their egos. Yeah. And like, have you, it's, you found that to be intimidating for them? I think my recent ex, the very recent, he was, I wasn't allowed to like people, certain people's Instagram photos. I wasn't really allowed to go to after parties. I wasn't allowed to, there was so many lists of rules. And for him, I was just I was just like do whatever you want. I'm not going to check up on you. If you want to message me you can. The fact that I thought so opposite of him, he just got so insecure

and so crazy because he didn't understand why I thought that way. Did he want the rules too? He wanted the rules very strict. There's plenty of people who will give people rules you can't do this, don't like this don't go to these parties

and yeah that can be problematic and red flags but there are some people who also like they want rules for them because it's like why don't you care that I would go to, like why don't you care I'm liking this picture, why don't you care that I'm going to this party did he want rules for himself or he just wanted rules for you I think the way he would say it was

I would never do that I would never like this person's photo I would never message this person or I would never go to this party so you can't do it either even though I mean he was working 24-7 so he didn't even have the opportunities to do any of these fun things but yeah he I think he would just he said he would never do it himself

but I was like I don't even if you want to like girls pictures pictures, I don't care. But for me, it was like, no boys, no one else, no pictures. If a guy would call me on my phone, he would just lose it. He'd be like, who's that? How do you know him?

Did you sleep with him? How do you know him? Freak out all the time. How long did you put up with that? That sounds, for a very self-aware person and recognize their egos. Like that would be a red flag. So I dated someone

and this person was the opposite of this recent person. They had so many qualities that I love, but they were missing so many other key qualities. And the next person had all these qualities that this person didn't have, but he had the opposite,

which was he was really controlling. So I was like, okay, I'm going to, you have so many things that I want long-term in a partner. So I'm going to see if I can finagle these other things and let you trust me. And maybe these other things will go away. And then everything you do have that I want long-term, it'll be like at the forefront of our relationship, but it just, it didn't. Like the thought, the things that I thought our relationship but it just it didn't like the thought the things that i thought mattered more that this other person didn't have i didn't care about anymore i was like no i realized more of what i want what were those specifically um more shallow things like more superficial like he was very very attractive and very successful

those are things you realize you didn't want. But my other partner didn't have those things. So I was like, maybe I need someone more who has more of those things. And then he had everything. On paper, perfect. But at the end of the day, I just couldn't deal with the other things. So he was the partner, the controlling one, almost had the appearance of being more polished

and having his shit together, so to speak. Yeah. So now, in your dating life now, how do you go about trying to figure out, what is your policy now? You meet someone, are you a slow burn? Because some of these things that I i'm sure you've i realize about myself or just dating in general is you know like people are good at hiding their insecurities

hiding their faults you know you we can get very excited about people but it takes time to get to know someone like how do you go about kind of taking what you've learned in these past relationships and then applying it to your current dating life to avoid some of those landmines in the future? I'm not really sure how I'm going to go about it in the future because my past few relationships have been very meeting the person and then a week later we're either going through phases where we're literally living together for weeks and then separating long distances.

So usually I would meet them and then I would get to know everything about them within the first month because we're living together for a few weeks. But in the future, I have no idea what I'm going to do, to be honest, I think. What's your dream?

How do you want to be loved in your next relationship? Or in your perfect relationship, not your next. I want to be loved the way I love. Okay, how is that? I feel like I'm very generous in relationships. I'm very compassionate, very trusting. Very affectionate. Very secure. very affectionate very secure just like the basics

like very basic I think what's your love language? physical touch that's it? or that's the most one? what are the love languages even? physical touch words of affirmation.

Acts of service. Acts of service. Quality time. Quality time. Gifts. And gifts. Okay. And acts of service and gifts,

I sometimes get those a bit confused. I also, acts of service and quality time sometimes. Well, because acts of service, like, if you like write a poem or, like,

you could give a gift that required acts of service, couldn't it not? Yeah. But like maybe- Gift versus like taking a computer to the Apple store. When I think of acts of service, I think if I'm struggling holding bags and you come over and you help me hold my bag or if I'm bringing a luggage and you're like,

no, no, let me get your luggage for you or like small things like that go the longest way for me. Like I remember wanting to break up with someone because they weren't like offering to like help me with things like small things around the house or like not putting their dishes away or like, no, yeah. Literally not helping me carry my luggages if I'm like struggling, like tiny things like that go the longest way I think for me. You don't need to like buy me a Chanel bag. You just like hold my bag for me. Okay. That's it. Kindness. Yeah.

Kindness. Manners. But not only to me, to other people as well. Sure. What is something about you in relationships you've learned about yourself that like if I were to like interview

like your past four exes. They would have nothing bad to say about me. Nothing bad. But like what would be like something they'd be like, you know, just like, she's great and she's wonderful.

And like, I miss her. And like, she was the best thing that ever happened to me. But like, oh, it was kind of annoying when she did this or something you've realized that maybe,

and if not nothing, nothing, what like you would like to work on yourself in your next relationship because you realize that maybe it creates problems and it's always created problems. I would say issues that I've had with recent, well, all of them,

have been I'm flirty with other people. Okay. With everyone, to be honest. If I'm out or with my friends, I'm very like social and flirty and I'm touchy. Do you think you are? There's that like TikTok meme. It's just like, I'm very like social and flirty and I'm do you think you are there's that like TikTok meme

it's just like I'm not flirting I'm just good looking or something like that right I haven't seen that one yeah it's like

a TikTok audio and it's just like I'm not flirting I'm just it's like a it's a it's a woman audio and it went viral

and she's I'm butchering it but she's basically like I'm just pretty and people talk to me and I'm nice oh no you're an attractive person I'm, I'm just pretty and people talk to me and I'm nice. Oh, no. You're an attractive person.

I'm flirty for sure. Like me and my friends make out all the time. Like we're very touchy. We go out, we like grope each other. We're very, I'm very flirty with everyone I meet. I don't know why. It's like. So when you say flirty,

you're like, you're including groping and making out. That's only with my close friends. Okay. That's only close friends. And you're bisexual. So you're into menroping and making out. That's only with my close friends. Okay. That's only close friends. And you're bisexual, so you're into men and women. Which is an issue as well because, well, it's not an issue, obviously. It's the best thing. But yeah, like my recent ex.

Well, yeah, because there's a lot of, we have people calling a man is also bisexual. There's a lot of, obviously, ignorance and misconceptions around what it man is also bisexual. There's a lot of obviously ignorance and misconceptions around what it means to be bisexual. And so if I were dating a bisexual woman, then you kind of respect the fact that not only are they into men, they're into women, right? And so this whole like, you try not to sexualize that. You shouldn't, right?

But if I were dating a bisexual woman and then I see her making out with anyone, a woman, I wouldn't be like, as opposed to like if I was dating a straight woman and the chick got crazy, got drunk, and she kissed her friend. She's like, I don't know what that was.

I mean, she's beautiful, but I'm not into women. I would probably see that differently than if I was dating someone whose last partner was a girl and I know she's very much attracted to and has fallen in love with women before. I think I would have to

process that. How do I approach that? Should I be mad? Should I not? Did you cheat on me? Have you had partners struggle approach that? Do I, should I be mad? Should I not? Did you cheat on me? But you know, like how do you, have you had partners struggle with that?

I have had partners struggle with that, but I think it definitely varies on the situation. It's very situational. Like if I meet a random girl, I don't know what the bar and I start making out with her.

Yeah, that's cheating. Okay. But if me and my like close friends, I've been friends with for like five, 10 years, get drunk and kiss each other

or whatever, that is obviously, that's like a green. You can still do that because it doesn't really, you years, get drunk and kiss each other or whatever, that is obviously, that's like a green. You can still do that because it doesn't really, you're just like drunk and doing it for fun. But you've had partners not agree? No, no, no. Yeah, they agree.

I consider it like, unless it's like a best friend or someone I've been friends with, it's cheating for sure. Like, of course, girl or a guy. Like, I can't just find a random girl and make out with her because she saw it. Like, that's considered cheating, yeah. Has that, like, with, when you're dating heterosexual men

and you're dating and you're like, I like this guy, has it ever been something you've, like, set them down and talked about, like, up front expectations? Because there is a lot of ignorance around that topic. We haven't really had conversations about it with, well, out of all my exes that I've dated, only my most recent was heterosexual, like a straight cis man. But he, yeah, you kind of go

into it and you do kind of say, okay, what are the ground rules? And obviously you're not allowed to do that. And you can do this type of situation. You definitely need to have the conversation. But it's just like kind of, you kind of just know, like if you're into girls and guys, you can't make out with girls just for fun. Unless, of course, they're your friends. Or you get the green light.

Yeah. But I usually never get the green light yeah but i usually never get the green light every man that i've dated if he was like a straight cis white man or anything they've been like you can't hook up with girls and we can't have threesomes like it's just you and me type of situation it's kind of annoying. Very controlling. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, you never, for me, it's like you never want to be in a relationship where you say you can't do something. But when you're dating a bisexual person, or let's say you're dating a bisexual person for the first time,

I think people, like cis straight white men are progressive. They want to... They're not progressive. Sure, but are they wannabe, right? No, they're not. And then they're like, no, you can't do this. You can't do that.

It's... Yeah, I can see how it could be. You'd think that they would be more down I find I had exes well it tracks that the last one you said was jealous and insecure and trolling that was more who he was

but you'd think he'd want to see me make out with a girl but that was not so not above his insecurity and jealousy at the end of the day that's who he was come on let me live I'm sure there are plenty no there actually is not there's not yeah of the day that's who he was. Come on, let me live. I'm sure there are plenty. No, there actually is not.

You find that? There's not, yeah. Usually if I go into a relationship where I'm seeing someone, I let them know, I would love to maybe be open or be polyamorous or maybe explore me and you with other people.

And at the very, very beginning in the first few weeks, they'll explain that they're down with it and they're open to it. But then right when there's feelings involved, it goes out the window. Do you think that's because at the end of the day, the average straight guy, their ego would be afraid of having you leave them for a woman? That makes sense. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

They're so afraid of that that they say no to all the perceived fantasies. I mean, they're not wrong. So, that makes sense. It's a valid fear to have, I would think. Well, why is it a fear?

I mean, I understand the possibility. Knowing how my brain works, it would be a valid situation. What if I like the girl more? Well, that's possible. You're understand the possibility. Knowing how my brain works, it would be like a valid situation. Like, yeah, what if I like the girl more? Well, that's possible. You're into girls, right? And as somebody who's into women as well, I get why that person would be more interesting than me.

But I'm saying, I think there's straight men out there who would, like, no one wants to be left for anyone. You know, if you break up with me and date someone else, I'm hurt, right? But, you know, the guy, all the group of friend guys be like, she, you know, left you for a woman you know like it would it would there are certain unprogressive ignorant people who would take it as a bigger blow to the ego than just you i don't know but like i'm wondering if that's why that's the case would you be more upset if your girlfriend now picture your girlfriend now if she left you for a woman or she left you for a man i would it's the same it would be yeah well yeah in my mind yeah i certainly would like to is the same? It's equal? Yeah. Well, yeah, in my mind. Yeah. I certainly would like to think that

because if she's bisexual, then I disrespect the fact that she's into both genders and her interest in me and dating me has to do with, you know, our connection,

our relationship, what she thinks about me. Yeah. And so if she leaves me... Either way, it's going to hurt. Either way, it's going to hurt.

Right? But I don't know if all men feel that way. I don't know. I'm wondering for women who are bisexual, do they sense a double standard in some of the heterosexual men they've dated? In my experience, the men that I've dated are just as like protective with me with women or with me with

men it's the same it's equal I think if that makes sense yeah what about you do you get what I'm yeah I feel like I've had a lot of guys who have sort of like you were saying at the beginning like seem really into it and are like okay threesomes are on the table you know just like sort of I think filter it through their own lens of like I think it's hot when girls make out want to have whatever it is. And then I think when like there is like sort of a coming to terms with the reality of it. And yeah, I've have found guys who are like, one time someone who I was seeing non-exclusively, we were being very communicative. And so I let him know I was also seeing a girl and then eventually kind of broke things off with him. And he was like, but she doesn't even have a dick. And he doesn't, and he's, you know,

a really progressive liberal dude who's super respectful. And like, but stuff like that comes out when push comes to shove. Remember the Friends episode when Ross's like first wife left for him since she became a lesbian.

And they like, the show even kind of made fun of Ross for that. It was like, it wasn't just your wife left you. It was your wife left you for a woman. It was like an added kind of... Women are so much better. Yeah, I was going to ask you, because I think it kind of goes along with this topic,

is this idea of sometimes I've had male partners be like, I don't care if you hook up with women, just don't hook up with other men. And there's this sense that there's a perceived difference between men and women. And I definitely experienced certain differences, but I was wondering if you did, or if you feel like specifically like being in a relationship with a woman, if that recontextualize what you expect from men. I definitely prefer being in relationships with women and that whole like oh well she doesn't have a penis

we have strap-ons for that we're so much more in tune with everything it's like such a different experience so I think they shouldn't be scared if I was dating someone who was bi if I was a man dating myself I would be scared because women are so much better

watch your back, I'll get respected yeah exactly is it like a respect thing or is it you're just more connected or in tuned I'm just more connected to women yeah because I wonder if gay men feel the same way

I mean like you know like I hang out with my buddies there's like a a shorthand so to to speak, with communicating. You know, you're just like, you get it, man. You're just like, you know, you're high-fiving. You don't need to explain yourself. And sometimes in relationships, and I've only had heterosexual relationships,

sometimes you feel like you really have to be like, we are, why do you not understand what I'm trying to say? And vice versa. And I wonder if that's just because in a lot of ways, men, you know, when we had Dr. Ahmed on talking about the brains of men and women,

like there, there's a lot of differences in how we think versus men and women, how they, how, how they think. A hundred percent. So I think, yeah,

the way that men think is a lot different we're more emotional of course and that just isn't just how we are with our feelings we're more emotional with everything I think so just day to day stuff and it's really hard

to explain the difference but the way you feel listened to everything you just feel so I think seen and I think particularly like not only are you also dating someone who's a woman but you're also dating someone who's a queer woman and I think there's like certain implications of like

having to move through the world in that way then you have like even more shared life experience and so you just feel so deeply understood have you ever been in a fight with a boyfriend and been like I wish you were a woman right now like I wish I was in a relationship with a woman because you couldn't get on the same page. I think fighting with women is worse when you're in a fight. It's worse when you're with a girl because it gets a lot more heated. But when I fight with a man, I'm just like...

Why is it worse? I'm curious. Because you're more passionate about it. And it's more like there's more feelings involved and the other person's opinions are usually more valid like I find if I fight with an ex-boyfriend I just let him go and I'm like there's no point to actually argue with you because you're just dumb and I'm just going to let you do your thing

usually if they're upset about something I find in my personal experience what about when you're upset it takes me a lot to get upset have you ever empathized I find. In my personal experience. What about when you're upset? It takes me a lot to get upset. Have you ever empathized? All right, so I'm sure when you've dated women, they've been mad at you at times, right?

Yeah, kind of for stuff that's been more out of my control. So it's more of like damage control than it is sex. Yeah, so I'm wondering when your women partners were mad at you, have you ever empathized with your male partners more for when you were mad at them? No. Never? Different. Different, okay.

And you know as well? No, yeah, I don't think so. It's sort of the idea of being like, oh, there's maybe ways that men and women communicate differently. And so being in a fight with a woman like I would maybe empathize with like, yeah, you feel yeah, you feel bad more than you do if you upset a man. I totally I feel like the bar is, I think, kind of going along with like I felt a lot more like seen and understood in relationships. But I think that's hard because there's like inherently so much more vulnerability on the table. So like the opportunity for emotional impact is so much greater.

I feel like something a girl I'm seeing would point out is probably right. Yeah, they just know. Well, I only asked that because you said flooding with your women partners is worse. Yeah. Everything about it is more heated. There's more emotions involved. Yeah, that's why I asked. There's a lot more communication that goes into it.

You actually have to like sit down and like have a conversation and like work through it slowly. But arguing with a man, I think, is just more like surface level. Usually the issues aren't as deep in my personal experience. Gotcha.

I'm not saying with anyone else, but. Yeah, I guess it can be. But I haven't been in relationships where there's been a lot of arguing. Minus like way less. Is that because you don't argue? I get the impression you don't argue. Like you're just.

Yeah, I just don't feel the need. Does that get frustrating for your partners? Because some people want, some people need to argue to work their shit out. They need to like express themselves through arguing. Not in trouble, but I've gotten in trouble for not communicating enough, I guess,

in relationships. If there's an issue, I just sit there and nod my head. Why aren't you speaking? I don't really have anything to say. Yeah, that can be tough. Do you get that more with women or men men partner men and do you think your women partners are just there's again there's more of an understanding i'm more like sweet and

like motherly with women than i am with men like i'm probably a better partner to a woman than i would be with a man okay so they're just so cute and you just have to care for them and love them more. And with men, they're just so easy. So what's the appeal of dating men? There's not much, to be honest. No, they're hot. And there's things with men that

obviously women don't have. There's this kind of demeanor about them. And you feel like sometimes... I can't say it without getting sexual, so I'm going to stop. You can say whatever you want. What do you mean sexual? There's this... For me personally, there's this deep-rooted, submissive kind of thing

that a man can satisfy more. Okay, so like in the bedroom, so to speak. Yeah. Okay, interesting. So do you like being single? No. You don't? Mm-mm.

I'm surprised by that answer because you've really kind of, you have this very reflective mindset about your relationship. You seem independent and secure. Yeah. Okay, so you don't like being single. Do you recognize the value in being single? So I get a lot of

comments on a lot of my social media people telling me I should take time to myself and be single because I'm... I don't give a fuck about people on social media. I think there's a lot of people that are very in tune with what's actually going on. telling me I should take time to myself and be single. We'll get the fuck with people. There's a lot of people that are very in tune with what's actually going on. I see some comments and I'm like, that was spot on, delete.

So if you delete a comment, you've been seen? You've been called out? And also people get so mad when you delete comments. It's like, you guys are bullying me, I'm going to delete it. Why not? I'm okay with deleting comments. It's your page. There's been people that have found out about people that I'm with and I'm like, delete, delete. Like I block certain names so people

don't know, but I'm older now. So I've have been single in my past, but I just, I love being in a relationship. I love pleasing someone. I love having someone to like cuddle with someone around me 24 seven. Like I don't like being alone ever. And I realized that more in the past few years. I just prefer to be around people and around a partner and be touched all the time. Yeah, maybe I should be single for a bit, but I know I'm independent in every other aspect of my life. So I just like having a partner. of my life so I just like having a partner.

But couldn't you just have like a do you believe in fuck buddies or like casual hookups in lieu of like a romantic situation? I would be able to do something like that but I find the people that I date and the people that I sleep with falling in love with you? It's usually

like we hang out for a bit and then it's like okay do you want to be my girlfriend or something like that? So it kind of just escalates really quick and I just usually say yes and then it kind of doesn't really last very long because I skip all like

the fundamental stuff about like getting to know someone. It's just like sex and then we're dating. So I kind of need to work on that, I think. Well, it's not just your fault.

Yeah. Unless, unless they're trying to like say, like we should spend time getting to know each other. You're like, nah. I think maybe because I'm so loving that it just comes across that I'm trying

to maybe take the relationship to the next level. I don't know. I'm a serial dater, though. That's all I know. I'm literally a relationship, single for a week relationship, single for a week relationship.

Do you think that's bad? I don't know. Is it bad? No. I mean, on face value, I think our society judges people far too much for having exes. I have a lot of them. Yeah. I think when you're dating and you find out someone had a lot of them. Yeah. I think if you, I think when, when you're dating and, and you find out

someone had a lot of exes, people, people see exes as a, a lot of people, not all, but a lot of people see exes as a failure

and then, and then the reflection of you, since we understand ego, we don't see it that way. Yeah. But, but people do

and, and then we judge each other. And I think that's a big reason why our society, combined with hookup culture, is getting worse and worse at defining the relationship. And that's why we have so many... That's why the word situationship is now a thing because people are trying to circumvent defining relationships, calling someone your boyfriend and girlfriend out of fear it might break up, out of fear of having another failure.

So then when they go on a date, like I've had 10 exes or whatever, then having that person judge them. Yeah, I think automatically you assume that it's an issue with that person instead of they're just like learning blocks. Like you could date 100 people and not meet that person, but that doesn't, it's not a reflection of you. It's just like, you just haven't met that person that like ticks all your boxes. Yeah. So yeah, I think people unfairly judge people for, you know, trying people out, so to speak. That's what I say.

I'm like, at least I'm trying. Like people have came for me and being like, be single, stop being in relationships. I'm like, well, I'm literally trying to find someone to spend my life with. So I'm going to keep going until I find that person. Yeah. I mean, there's no perfect thing, right?

I mean, depending on who it is. Yeah. Is there value in taking a beat and being comfortable being alone? Sure. But there's nothing wrong, in my opinion, there's nothing wrong with, yeah. If you find a connection with someone and seeing where it goes and then if it doesn't work out. I prefer jumping into

things right away as well because I'm not wasting like six months of like that awkward dating talking period. It's like okay we hang out for a bit, we're official hang out every day, see how it goes. You learn so much about them instantly instead of wasting seven months on it. I think this is great.

And we actually talked more and more about this. I was actually giving Amanda a hard time for not wanting to press play, so to speak. You know, like Amanda was, like, and I've done that too. Like a lot of people do that. It was due diligence of assessing options, I would say. You know, like if we're using,

we use the Netflix analogy. A lot of people look for the perfect preview or are watching previews. They're not committing to anything. They're on the dating apps. Trying to be intentional before they come in. I don't know, I have 10 matches. And then I was like, people need to start just fucking dating. Just date.

You can always break up. And that's more you, which I actually think is great. Now, my question for you is, now when you're dating, what boundaries, if any, do you set about like, all right, yeah, we're dating.

We're boyfriend and girlfriend. Sure. We're committed to like, we're exclusive or not. Like, do you set boundaries around feelings in terms of like you know because a lot of times people like all right now you're my boyfriend now you're my girlfriend when do i get to say i love you you know what are my expectations for when i should want them to open up to me

because once we start defining relationships we have this thing where we get these crazy expectations because society says oh well you're supposed to move in with them. They haven't said I loved you to you yet in six months. Or whatever it is. That is a long time. Is it? I think. If I'm boyfriend and girlfriend for six months and I don't feel love, then no.

Maybe you're still trying them out. No, six months is a long time though. See, maybe people... There's a balance though. Relationships like that are probably relationships where they're dating, they're only seeing each other once or twice a week or a few times a week. And they're not like, I think you need to dive in right away, go on a vacation with them, spend a week with them, live with them.

Do something where you're sleeping with them, waking up with them, you see their daily habits right away. Do they cook? Do they clean? Do they take out the garbage? How do they treat waiters? Are they a good driver? Small things like that that you need to get to know right away with someone. Are they good drivers? Just small things that are at the end of the day

when you're living with someone and you have a family with them and you have kids, those small things go way above anything else. Like how they look or stuff I don't know, stuff like that. Even financial stuff. The small things is what's going to matter in 10 years or when you have kids. If you have five babies in your hands, are they helping cook?

Stuff like that, small things. So you need to get to know someone right away. My thing is going on a trip. Trip. Yeah, vacation quick. A weekend somewhere, like four days. Ideally, you guys are planning a trip in the first month.

First few weeks, yeah. Okay. It works for me. I'm just thinking about it. I could see the value. I'm just wondering, is there any possibility that, and I'm just thinking out loud here, you can meet someone the first two weeks, take a trip. And what would otherwise be a great relationship, it goes too much too fast that you ruin a good

thing. And I don't, maybe not. Maybe you're right. So recently I dated someone and we were long distance. So I had to go to that person's country and I lived with them for three weeks. And I learned things about this person that would have taken me probably a year to learn because I saw their daily habits. I saw how they were treating certain people in their lives. I saw everything about them daily. And I learned that this person wasn't for me. And I would have

maybe fell in love with them and found out these things in a year and kind of put up with it because I was already in love but now I learned it right away and now I knew that it wasn't for me and I could back away before there was like way too much feelings involved it's like it wasn't the love keeping me there it was like fundamental things that really did matter to me that let me is it harder for you to fall in love or fall out of love i fall in love really easy i think but i fall out of love really quick yeah and i usually you're you yeah you hire and fire quickly yeah i think yeah that's good what makes you feel loved no you don't think that's good. It's worked for me. So, I mean, it doesn't necessarily, I kind of feel bad for the other person involved, you know, but.

You've broken more hearts than have had your heart broken? I think recently, yeah. Have you had your heart broken? Yeah. What was the worst thing about it? The betrayal. You were cheated on. Yeah, I think the thinking that the other person was in love with you when they really weren't.

That's like, that was the hardest like thing to swallow. Like thinking that the, it was just fake and why did they lie to me or whatever. What did you learn from that? When did you read the book? When did you read that book? The book I read when I was 20. Is that when you read the book? When did you read that book?

The book I read when I was 20. So the book I read after my first heartbreak because I was so confused with like life and I was getting aggressive towards people and I was just not, I was acting out because I just thought everyone, I thought everyone was against me. And then I read the book and I realized that's not actually how the world works.

But I think, yeah, I just trusted too soon. So I feel like the recent heartbreak kind of just taught me to just to over-examine a person and like really find their true intentions from the beginning. How do you, what are you most critical about? I mean, you've mentioned like

how people treat other people. So there's that and how they treat waiters. But what is, yeah, like what is a pet peeve of yours? What is a pet peeve? What is a non-negotiable for you that might be a pet peeve for someone else? And you're just like, fuck it, I don't care. You mentioned driving.

Have you ever broke up with someone because they're not a good driver? No. Okay. But what would be something? But if you're in the passenger seat, you want to feel safe. No, I get it. You said that, I was like, yeah.

I'm a very slow driver, I realized. That would drive me crazy. You're an inattentive driver. That would drive me crazy. You're inattentive. Never been in an accident. The way my brain works, I'm like, okay, what if there's kids in the car

and he's driving like this? But it's not only the way that they drive. The way that they drive is a reflection of a lot of other things, I think. Like how their brain works. I don't know. Like how risky they are. Precious cargo in the back, drive safe.

Or if you're driving too slow, we have a place to be. Speed up. I sound crazy. No. I sound crazy. No. I mean, yeah, I,

I've definitely, in LA, I've, I'm just not in a rush because you can't really go fast. Yeah. It's like, I don't step on it because it's like,

either way, I'm going to be hitting the brake in a few seconds. So, yeah, I don't, I don't know. What do you worry about

on a daily basis? Not much. No? No do you worry about? On a daily basis? Not much. No? No. I worry about my dog. Okay. Because he's so small. That's about it.

All right. To be honest. And wrinkles. Okay. Relatable. So you can't talk about it. You might be going on another show, but you're also like,

don't want to get caught up in the whole influencer scene, I guess. Like what is the dream for you? And like, I hate asking people like, what's your five-year plan? But like, what is, when you dream about your future, what do you dream about?

I dream about having a huge family. I want to live on a nice big property with two pigs, four goats, eight chickens. Do you want a lot of kids? I'm going to name the pig Walter. I already know. I want four kids. Four? Ideally, but maybe I'll have one and then be like, no, I'm done.

You never know. I could be traumatizing. I could not be obsessed Four. Ideally, but maybe I'll have one and then be like, no, I'm done. You never know. I could be traumatizing. I could not be obsessed with motherhood. Who knows? I think I will be, but you never know. The dream is to just have a really big family and have the means to support my friends and have people around me. If I want to fly there, I can fly there.

If I want to rent a plane to go there, I can do there. Having freedom and being able to support my friends, my family. If my mom wants that, I'll buy her that type thing. Just being financially stable and having a really large support group and family and animals. What is something that makes you feel misunderstood? Do you ever feel misunderstood?

And what is a misconception about you? If any. I don't think I feel misunderstood because I'm really good with voicing how I feel to my friends. And the only time I would feel misunderstood would be if I had so much work to do that day and they were being lazy and I was just like yelling at them to help or something. But no, definitely don't think I feel misunderstood. Do I? No. And misconception.

I think I feel misunderstood. Do I? No. And misconception. If you don't feel misunderstood, maybe there isn't one. I think the misconception about me is, yeah, when I meet people,

this has been happening since I was like 10, people just assume that I was going to be a bitch. But that's like normal. I feel like a lot of people deal with that. It's like, oh, I thought you were going to be mean or I didn't think you were going to be nice. Sure. Oh, you're actually sweet. Are you more introverted or extroverted?

I think I'm an extrovert. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I love being around people. But I have really weird social anxiety randomly. Like, I don't like going places alone. Yeah, so maybe you're a little bit of both. Well, most people are on the spectrum.

A few people are like definitively one or the other. So you might have some introverted tendencies, but lean more extroverted. Yeah. And when you get social anxiety, then people might think you're being... Yeah, that I'm kind of quiet, but I'm just kind of like...

And you're just quieter in your head. Okay. What else? Anything else we should chat about before we play our do you know me game and let you go? Oh, God. What's on your mind? What was one thing this weekend

you were just thinking about that bugged you or that you're passionate about and that you wanted to talk about, if anything, to your friends? I think I was really confused this week because I was ending a relationship that I was in and I was really confused and if it was the right idea or right, right idea, right. Decision. Decision.

I can't speak right now. Yeah. I was confused if it was the right decision, if I was going to regret it. So I think that was the only kind of hard thing that I went with. But once I finally made the decision to cut it off, I... You ended it. What were reasons to stay and reasons to go?

Reasons to go were controlling... Oh, that was the guy we were talking about. Yeah, negative. You sold it well early on that you should have gone. He... He is the most attractive person I've ever dated. So there's that aspect that I was just like,

you're so hot, but you're also so annoying. But it's okay because you're so hot. But then I was like, 10 years, you could be ugly. Or like that, yeah, the way you look doesn't even, at the end of the day, it didn't matter as much as I wanted it to. So he was a very shiny toy. It was very fun to play with. He was also mean to my friends.

Okay. Yeah. Well, I'm glad that you seem good with your decision. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My friends think I'm crazy. They're like, how are you okay? I'm like, huh. Oh, they didn't agree with your decision?

No, they agreed, but they didn't understand how I just got over it in like five seconds. Well, because, I mean, I don't, I mean, I like to think we're friends, but I don't know you that well. But it sounds like you made a very thoughtful decision based off of like things you value versus things you realize

you don't value as much. It's like, you don't get to enjoy the hotness anymore, but like you'll be fine. There's a lot of hotness. There's a lot of hotness out there. I don't think that's particularly difficult for you to find.

If you want hot, you'll go find hot. You'll be good in that area. Thanks for coming. Of course. Thanks for having me. It's been a ton of fun. Be down to play a little easy game with us yeah let's go

play with all our guests it's called Do You Know Me it's real simple I'm nervous don't be nervous it's called

Do You Know Me we'll ask some basic questions the idea is to get to know you better okay that's our goal okay yes or no questions are fine

anecdotal stories and you know are welcomed but not expected. Do you know me with Francesca Farago? Did I say that right? You said that right. Good job.

I mean, it's one of those things where it's pronounced just the way it's spelled. Yeah. Some people say Farago or some people even say Faragamo. I'm like, where did the M come from? Well, yeah. No. Well, see, I'm dyslexic too. So like sometimes I'm like, oh, there's an extra A in there.

Like I have to, because it looks, when I see it first, it just, I see Fargo. Yeah. Because of the bank too. Or Fargo's like a bank? Wells Fargo. Wells Fargo. It's a movie.

It's a city. It's a city in North Dakota. It's really, Fargo, the word, has really gotten some play. Yeah, that's a great point. So, Farago. All right, do you know me with Francesca Farago? Question number one, does Francesca have a journal? No.

Have you ever journaled? No. How do you process, like, your, do you, are you an overthinker, ruminate? Do you? No. No. No. Just.

Yeah, thank God. You don't worry much, do you? No. It's like the best thing. I'm jealous. Can Francesca name all four Beatles? No. I love that she didn't even try.

I respect that. Can Francesca raise just one eyebrow? Oh no, I have too much Botox. Have you ever been able to? No, I don't think so. Kind of. A little bit. Has Francesca ever ridden a mechanical bull?

Yeah, I did when I was younger. Does Francesca have a 401k plan? What? I don't know if it would be called something different in Canada, but like a savings slash retirement plan. Oh, nope. Terrible with money. Live it on the edge.

You're terrible with money? I mean, I just spend a lot of money. Yeah. I'm just constantly spending money. Constantly. I save a lot. I make more than I spend, obviously.

Well, not obviously. A lot of people don't. I usually don't spend money on myself. I spend money on my friends. You're a generous person. Yeah. Maybe do that. Maybe save?

No, I have so much. You're thriving. Has Francesca ever been stood up on a date? No, I've had people show up intentionally really late. Intentionally? How'd you know? You could just tell. I've never thought of men like, did you do this on purpose?

Because I think that they're like, oh, I'm going to be too cool. I'm going to take my time. Oh, I'm going to go for a drink and then I'll meet you. And I'm like, you're doing this on purpose. I just know. What'd you do?. And I'm like, you're doing this on purpose. I just know. What'd you do? Nothing. I was like, okay, whatever. Really?

Yeah. You're chill. If you're like, hey, I'm sorry. But if I stopped and got a drink, if I thought they were doing it on purpose, I'd be like... I think that they're doing it because they think that that's what they should do to make me like them more.

They're not waiting on me hand and feet. They're taking their time. They're not showing up. That's what I think. Does that make you like them less or more? It just makes me think, oh, they think that they have to do these things, but they don't.

Let's see how you behave when you're secure. Clearly, you're not secure yet. Let's see what happens when you are secure. Do you think you're struggling in relationships of having to make your partners feel secure? Yeah, I think so. I try though. Yeah, like sometimes the power in a relationship is the power people feel and should ideally be equal. And if it's not equal,

it's not always the fault of the person who has more power. People give their power more often than not away without the other person asking for it. How do you deal with that? I try and I'm really good with reassurance, I think. But I think I just need to date someone who's super secure with who they are. That's who you'll marry.

Yeah. Someone who you don't have to make feel powerful. They don't give away their power. Yeah. Someone who's an hour late. Not on purpose. On purpose. No, you'll end up with that person. Yeah. This made me think of a question. on purpose not on purpose on purpose no you don't you don't want to

end up with that person yeah oh this made me think of a question do you like it when your partner shares their vulnerabilities yeah I think it's

the best to know everything about that person but I'm not a huge fan of sensitivities maybe that's a bad on me

but like I don't know what do you mean? Vulnerabilities, I think, if there's deep-rooted stuff, I try and work through that with that person. But I don't like overly sensitive people. So as long as it's not service-level sensitive stuff,

then yeah. And I think I agree with you. I think we're the same there. But you would prefer, you like someone who says, this is a vulnerability or insecurity of mine. I'm working on it. I won't always be perfect, but I'm dealing.

As opposed to someone who's just like, this is who I am and you need to accept this because I'm just going to know the shit out of you with me constantly showing you this insecurity day in and day out, which can get exhausting. I think people that go into a relationship thinking that they don't need to change or they don't need to grow, that's the worst kind of person.

Because people are always changing and evolving. Has Francesca ever had a crush on a friend's sibling? Oh, yeah. How'd that go? I dated my best friend's brother when I was in my early 20s. Yeah, it didn't end well.

Are you still friends with her? Anyway, nope. My brother was hot though. The hot will get you. Who ended it? I ended it. Yeah. And it kind of was awkward after that.

Has Francesca ever bought something off eBay? No. I don't know how to work eBay. You don't know how. Has Francesca ever bought something off eBay? No. I don't know how to work eBay. You don't know how to work eBay? Never bought something off eBay. My mom's a big eBay fan, but... It's still a thing, yeah? Yeah.

Yeah. Does Francesca know how their parents met? Yep. Your parents are still married. Yep. I saw that. Yeah, I know how they met. I know where they met.

Everything. They're very much in love. Yeah, they're so cute. Has Francesca ever thrown up in public? No. Mm-mm. Like a party puke, yeah. Like, you like, take a shot.

There's a difference between public and at the party? You take a shot and you like, puke in your mouth a bit, swallow it, and then you keep going. Yeah, like baby throw up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. Is Francesca in the Mile High Club?

Yes. Okay. Yeah. Was this a private? Both. Public? I did it on a private, of course. And then, yeah, I did it on a commercial flight as well.

In the bathroom? In the bathroom, yeah. I almost got in trouble. She's like, there's kids on the plane. I'm like, oh, I'm sick. I was like faked an illness. I don't think I'd have the guts. It's hard. It needs to be a specific flight.

Because everyone's looking at you. Well, it needs to be a night flight, of course. Obviously. Yeah. Lights off. One person goes and you look around, the other person sneaks in after. But we got caught. Gotcha. There's kids on the plane. All right. Last question. Has Francesca hooked up with someone there's kids alright last question has Francesca

hooked up with someone older than how old are you can I ask I'm 28 okay are you trying to like be secretive about that

I always say I'm a year younger than I am but I just I don't know it's like a reflex one of my girlfriends you naturally lie about your age. One of my girlfriends, my last boyfriend,

didn't know how old I was for like a month. Maybe that's kind of weird. No, because I didn't. We hooked up one night and I never thought I was going to see him again. So I lied about how old I was. And then when it came to like a month later, we were booking flights and he got my passport. And he's like, what?

I'm like, what? I'm like, I thought I said 27. He's like, no, you said 26. I'm like, what? I'm like, I thought I said 27. He's like, no, you said 26. I'm like, oh, it's so weird. Like I was drunk. Sorry. Like it's only one year that I lie by. I just go a year younger.

I don't know if that's better or worse though. My girlfriend, one of my best friends does it. She's like 31. She always says she's like 26 and hanging out with her a lot. I just got, she would say 26. I'm like, well, you can't be younger than me. So no, I have to be 26 too. And then, and then it just, just happened.

But it's not to people that I meet me, like people that I don't think I'm going to hang out with again. I'm like, I'm 26. And if you say you're 28 now, if you're out, guys automatically assume that like, you're trying to like, I'm getting pregnant by them. Cause they think, I think guys 28 is kind of like, I don't know.

You feel the judgment from men. I feel the judgment, yeah. From women it's fine, but from men it's like, oh, you're 28? Oh, shit, I'm not looking for anything. It's like, well, neither am I. Well, I am, but not with you. Interesting. All right, anyway.

So, have you ever hooked up with someone who's older than 50? Yeah. 60? No. 60? No. Okay. Francesca, it's been a pleasure. Likewise.

Please let my audience know where they can follow you, watch you, be entertained by you. TikTok, Instagram, Francesca Farago. Awesome. I like to think my TikToks are funny, but I don't think they are. I try. You know, your TikToks are really good. They're okay.

You know, it's, I think after you posted TikTok, I don't know how you feel and you mentioned you think they're funny. I think your TikToks are great, but like,

I'll post something and then I'll go back like a week later and I'm just like, I don't know if this is cringe or, it's just like, it's like, I don't know if this is cringe. I'm constantly wondering.

I feel like I'm walking a fine line. I don't know how you feel. But sometimes I feel good about it and as soon as I post it, I'm like, I don't know why I was so confident about that. You have confidence though, I like that. I think yours are great, but it's hard because you talk about stuff and I'm just following trends.

You talk about a lot of stuff. It's like more judgment can be put on yours than mine. You can't really judge me bobbing my head with my dog. That's true. Then I do the relation stuff and then I try to jump on a trend. You have to spin the trend to relate to you. That's the hardest part. I know.

I feel sorry for me. I have a tough life. Francesca you it's the hardest part I know feel sorry for me I have a tough life Francesca it's been a pleasure I really appreciate you coming on it's been really fun getting to know you

thanks for having me whatever you're doing I'm sure it'll be great and I can't wait to watch thanks thanks for listening guys have a great day thanks for listening Bye.