The Viall Files - E432 Going Deeper with Sophia & Sistine Stallone - Aging & Bullies

Episode Date: June 8, 2022

Welcome back to The Viall Files, Going Deeper edition! Today we are joined by podcasters Sophia and Sistine Stallone, also known as The Stallone Sisters! On this episode we dive into growing up with a famous father, how having strict parents can prevent you from becoming spoiled, and Nick’s love of Rocky IV. We also talk about being bullied by famous children and creating your own path. We dive into some pop culture topics and react to Kim Kardashian’s recent comments about how she would eat poop if it made her look younger, Kim’s brand new luxurious private jet, how airplane food always sucks, and we also discuss how saying you love someone when you’re drunk can be genuine. We also dive into the effectiveness of marriage pacts, reacting to Millie Bobby Brown and Noah Schnapp’s deal to tie the knot if they’re both single at 40. We then welcome our Texting Office Hours caller who wonders how to get out of her cousin’s wedding without hurting his feelings and without her feeling guilty. The drama increases when it’s revealed that she was uninvited from the wedding itself and that this upcoming event is really just a celebration that will be extremely costly and inconvenient to attend.  “I love you is subjective.”  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes.  If you would like to get some advice on Office Hours send an email to [e-mail] with “ Office Hours” in the subject line!  Pre-Order Nick’s Book: https://www.abramsbooks.com/product/dont-text-your-ex-happy-birthday_9781419755491/ Check out our new "Introvert" merch at http://www.viallfiles.com today! THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: MUD\WTR: Go to http://www.MudWtr.com/VIALL to support the show and use code VIALL for 15% off. Brooklinen: Go to Brooklinen.com and use promo code VIALL to get $20 off your purchase of $100 or more plus free shipping. Brooklinen. The curators of comfort. Episode Socials:  @viallfiles @nickviall @sophiastallone @sistinestallone @unwaxedpodcast See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Go to mudwater.com slash V-I-A-L-L to support the show and use code V-I-A-L-L for 15% off. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Vile Files Going Deeper Edition. I'm your host, Nick, joined by Allie and Amanda. How are you doing, ladies? Fabulous. Bopping, jiving.

Living it up. We have an update. our texting office hours last week, our dear Hannah. Unfortunately, it did not go the way we hoped. And we don't have details. We don't have more details other than she told us that it didn't go the way she had hoped. But no regret. Yeah, I mean, listen, now she knows. And we have all

the confidence in the world that she is going to seize the moment and be a shining star around this person who rejected her. Yes. And not act,

not act, not act rejected. Plus sometimes with, especially with like a friendship budding romance, sometimes you got to plant those seeds and know they're not going to grow flowers for six months. That's what I'm saying. I feel like that, that third option,

it was either she's going to say yes, she was going to say no. And even if she says no, because of the friend group, there's a sense of protectiveness over the group. So that time when you reject someone is such a pivotal moment of showing them a different side of who you are. An attractive side or an unattractive side how people handle this appointment i think is because it's so easy to go in the wrong direction for like whenever i feel like rejected or like even if it's something little like i asked my boyfriend hang out and he's not free it's so tempting to like like my reactions to be like kind of aloof

or kind of like okay like you know like to be like you're makingoof or kind of like, okay, like, you know, like to be like, you're making me feel not as in control. So I'm going to be like ever so slightly withholding is like the instinct. And it's a terrible instinct because it's so much more powerful when you're warm and welcoming to people and not being standoffish and weird around them. Oh, yeah. You're like, okay. And then your partner's like, well, you don't miss me.

Your partner wants you to miss them or whatever. We manipulate the fuck out of each other all the time. We do. We manipulate the fuck. I was thinking about this over the weekend. I mean, the thing is, we do. Think about it. All the little things we say in relationships.

I should have written it down because if someone said I don't know if it was Natalie or someone else like we had some people over and someone said something and it was just like like I know this is like this is kind of manipulative

but it's not really manipulative it's just Yeah, it's like where does strategy start? It's gamesmanship. Yeah. It's a little bit of gamesmanship on how we say and do things in

relationships totally i feel like we should like i should start writing these down when i when if you notice either you or nick or if we should just write these down and play a game of is this manipulative or is this gamemanship? Manipulation or gamesmanship? Because there's such a fine line in relationships. I'm going to be keeping track of a lot of stuff because my latest relationship endeavor is I live in Thai Town. Shout out to Thai Town in Los Angeles. Wonderful neighborhood, a hidden gem, I would say.

I don't even know where it is. It's like I said this in a DM to a new friend, and then instantly he was like, why would I say this? I was like, Thai town is like touching tips with Los Feliz. And I was like, so unnecessary, like such unnecessary wording. But that's true. It's like it's Hollywood. Los Feliz has a beautiful spot in the middle. And there's naturally a million Thai restaurants. Just an abundance of Thai restaurants. So many Thai restaurants. Like more Thai restaurants than I've ever seen in my life. And my boyfriend and I have decided we are going to go to every single one. We are going to make a binder, which the binder really excited me about this. I was like, ooh, a craft project.

And like keep the menu. We're going to write down. We're going to do two dishes. We're going to have two consistent dishes. That way we can see how they stock can like see how they eliminate the variables and then one wild card dish of like the like the the restaurant specialty and then we were joking that in addition to writing down about like how the food is like just turn it into like a really passive aggressive like also commenting on the relationship i feel like amanda didn't do as much listening as she said she would

have you started this? So I'm leaving for Chicago on Wednesday, so we're trying to do our first one before I go. Have you seen Gilmore Girls? No. Do you have a goal on how many? We'll get to Gilmore Girls in a second. Where's Gilmore Girls with this? Because on the first night when Rory goes to Yale, her mom spends the night there and

she makes friends with all the girls in their dorm and she orders from every restaurant around Yale and they keep track. They have a system of like how hot the delivery guy is, the distance, the quality of the food, and they like rank everything. So she's ripping off Gilmore Girls. Yeah. So I guess there's not an original thing. How many restaurants?

I'm thinking like it's got to be at least 30 maybe that's too high I don't think you'll make it to 8 you don't think the relationship is going to last 2 months it has nothing to do with the relationship oh my god Ali you don't think our relationship I never said that

this is also to motivate you too I'm just like having that moment of being like oh yeah if there's a breakup, it's going to be like the fucking Thai food binder. Who gets the binder? Who gets it? Joint custody. He gets the binder on weekends.

Visitation rights. No, I thank you for saying that. We're not going to make it to eight because now I will certainly make it to more than eight. Nothing incentivizes Boston like vengeance or doubt so to either of you like i guess maybe in the relationship context or in like a friendship context ali listen i wanted to include you i wanted to include you and i didn't want to draw it i didn't want to be pointed but i also wanted to make sure you felt included. So I pointed my finger and I said, friend.

Do you have any thing that you're kind of fixated on? Like a category of things where you're like, oh, I want to try a bunch of different ones. Men? But do you know any restaurants or something? Are you okay? I'm so funny. I was around this alley just kind of like completely just. I thought it was a funny joke.

Solve a part. You were saying? I was saying, I was like, do you and Natalie have something where it's like you make a thing of like going to a bunch of different like diners or like wherever else? No, we could work on that because we both like the same things and we're both creatures of habit. Jones on third. could work on that because we both like the same things and we're both creatures of habit which is really convenient and nice because dinner's not a negotiation for us yeah i mean the only negotiating we have is like should we really have tacos for the third night this week and then it's like yes it's like i guess you know like we kind of shame ourselves but we could stand to be a little bit more adventurous, both of us.

But neither of us like doing that. Although Natalie got us to try a new breakfast spot yesterday. Oh, was it good? It was not as good as what we like to go. See, that's the hard part of trying something new. Because you could always be disappointed. And it was totally good, but it was not as good. I also think that's a distinctly New York thing is like if you've lived in New York City, you know the importance of like a good diner for brunch.

Yeah, because there's so many options. I feel really strongly about that. And I was very excited because like my boyfriend knows this one place that we have to go sometime, Allie, for a brunch dish. Because it's like booths, hash browns. I heard booths instead of booths, but that's okay. It's like, I'm sure, BYOB. Any place is BYOB if you're determined enough. Amen.

I was talking about that to someone the other day. Pants, great place to put stuff. What? Have you ever been lectured for bringing in your own i don't get caught i once at a music at a music festival in australia and the australians are strict like they get a reputation for being chillers but like they are when it comes to alcohol laws incredibly security has it on lock i walked into a music festival with a bottle of vodka between my sweaty thighs. Yeah. I was so worried it was going to drop out.

And then you kind of waddle. Did you have pants or like a skirt? It was a skirt. That's impressive. How? Muscle. Clench that. Force of will.

Yeah. You know you needed to make it through. Didn't she like walk like you had to go to the bathroom really bad? Yeah, but who's going to tell you? Well, it was kind of a big bottle, so it like. I'd be like, that girl looks like

she's walking with a bottle between her legs. Does that pop up on like a metal detector? maybe they saw it and were just like, we're not engaging. It's like whatever.

It's like whatever. She clearly is. Good for her. All right, well, we have a fantastic episode for you. Sistine and Sophiaone uh are with

us today uh a delightful honestly didn't know who their dad was but i loved them you don't know who sylvester stallone did not but they were lovely ladies how do you not know who's mr stallone i did a lot of flash cards as a kid well he's a legend uh anyways they're great. We have a fun, fun chat. Aging. We talk about aging. Poop. Parenting. Yeah, like celebrity parenting, bullying.

Bullying. Bullying. Parenting. Anyways, it's great. Why don't you just listen to it? You're here already. I mean, at this point. If you suck it out this far.

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have like the machine say it she says sistine and they'd say 16 or christine or no you know what hurt my feelings more is that they never had a keychain with my name on it. That was really annoying for her. Let's just play the world's smallest violin for me. So sad. Welcome. Thanks for coming. So much to talk about today. I just want to know, when did you guys realize your dad was rocky?

You know what I'm saying? What's so funny is that we got shit for this because we said this before oh we didn't we didn't realize how this obviously we realize who he is

we're not completely ignorant from it but no but as kids that's the question it's like you're just dad we didn't realize how cool he was

until he won the golden globe like a couple years ago oh wow we said this a couple years ago listen listen so we went on the Friday beers podcast and they asked a very similar question. We said we didn't realize how legit he was until he won a Golden Globe for his role in Creed.

And they were like, that is so fucked up. Wait, can I curse? Sorry. They were like, that is so messed up because he had such a crazy career before that. But growing up as kids, we only saw him as dad with just a paparazzi following us all the time so we never knew like you didn't know what that was yeah and like we you could look at red carpet photos we were like little ikes on a carpet we didn't know we thought it was normal um but a funny thing is i think we realized he was famous because he sort of put it

in our face all the time like every time one of his movies was playing on TV, he would make us sit down and watch it. Still today. Oh, still today. We've seen Rocky 12 times, Clip Hanger 11 times, all the time. And then he'll tell us like the lines of it. We can recite lines from Rocky.

He'll say behind the scenes. We're like, we know what happened behind the scenes. We've learned how to read by reading his scripts. Like he would make us sit on his office. Really? I love that. There's a photograph of me.

I was like four years old. And I have my feet in the couch. And I'm going like this. And I'm doing sit-ups. Because I had just saw Rocky IV in the theaters. And it was one of the first movies I ever saw in the theaters. So you definitely knew who he was before we did. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, for sure. Wait, was Rocky IV the one with... Ivan Drago. Yes. Okay, so they – I think they just remade it or remastered it or did something like that recently. Oh, yeah, they remastered Rocky IV.

And I actually – because I remember watching that the first time. It's one of my favorite movies. Yeah, years ago. Oh, you got to watch the new cut. No, this new one is awesome. And I actually – Is it out?

Yeah. I forgot how cool the working out sequences or what's it called before – The training. Yeah, the training montage before. And there's a lot of cuts that didn't make the first film. When I was The Bachelor,

we filmed, you should have your dad watch it. Oh, he loves The Bachelor. He loves The Bachelor. Are you kidding? He has characters that he loves that are his favorites. On my season of The Bachelor,

we filmed the finale in Finland. And one of my producers, also a big rocky fan yeah and we're in finland and so we're just like fucking around so we have to do b-roll like as part of the bachelor like shots yeah and so we recreated the whole rocky four training sequence and so i was doing and they aired it it's at the end of one of the episodes it must be it it's at the end of one of the episodes it must be like it's either the fantasy i think it's a fantasy suite episode oh we're watching it's the end it's the it's on hbo max i think you can watch it okay well for sure we have the account and uh i think it's it's probably the fantasy suite and it's me doing that's epic he needs like that i'm i'm like doing i'm like have a log over my back

and i'm like it's all we did all what a great and it's in this in this in the snow so it would be a lot to me just to know that your dad watched but i guarantee he's already seen it because he's a bachelor well he loves bachelor in paradise he does would he ever want to recap an episode oh recap an episode i don't think he would understand how to recap an episode. I think he – All he has to do is give an opinion, and I feel like your dad – Oh, he has a lot of opinions. Yeah.

Because this is the thing. We would put it on. He'd be like, I don't want to watch it. And then he'd sit on the couch, and then all of a sudden he has his favorite people. But it's always the people that cause the most drama. Like he loved – what's his name? He was crazy on it. Chad.

Chad. He. Chad. He loved Chad. Oh my God. A thing like this? My dad still does that today. He'll look at us. No, when Chad was on Jojo's season,

like, I found him entertaining. Yeah. Like he was funny. Like when I got to know him, like, yeah, he's a bit of a troubled man,

but. No, he loved the whole thing that he did just to cause the drama obviously maybe him as a person is a bit different of a situation but when he was like I'm not mad I'm just disappointed it was one of the best lines in Bachelor history

exactly so he'd always bring him up so dad's a Bachelor fan he loves reality TV which people wouldn't assume Dancing with the Stars he loves American Idol he loves all of that he's got talent yeah all of that stuff do you have a favorite reality show all of them that's like choosing my favorite child um i love just housewives i'm just huge housewife fan like those stupid dating 90 day fiance married at first sight i mean that like the the fact that people actually do it i think is hysterical and awesome at the same time.

My favorite one I'm watching right now is Are You The One? I think those old seasons, I don't know if you guys have seen it. Are You The One? The season one from MTV. Oh, Are You The One is crazy. Yeah, I've never seen it. They go in that booth and it's like, the truth booth is so insane.

They don't have any care because no one understands what reality TV is or does. They don't even realize this is going to haunt them forever maybe or whatever it stays on or whatever they do. And it's just so funny. They have their inhibitions down and they go wild. I love those old seasons. I remember Elimidate. Remember Elimidate?

Which one? Which one was it? This is way before your time. You know, I was a big fan of Next on MTV. Next. What was Next? This is way before your time. You know, I was a big fan of Next on MTV. Next. That was so. You don't know Next? These guys would come out and be like, hey, my name is Brad.

I'm 23. I love boobs and Mountain Dew. And he would come out and the girl would either look at him and be like, Next, and kick him out. Or if they make it through the entire date, every date's like $5 he can win. And then he either chooses the $15 or the date. And he's like, I'm can win and then he either chooses like the 15 dollars or the date and he's like i'm taking the cat like it's so no but you can literally look at someone and be like no she's ugly like it's so bad in the middle of the date too right like at any point in

time you could just be like next oh it's so sad he'll be like she'll go i love country music and he goes not for me next it's just so funny crazy no wonder like we dating such a struggle for people now just like the the content we've watched for so many years is definitely not like teaching us like proper nope oh not at all like wife swap oh can we talk about wife swap celebrity they should have gotten a cease and desist immediately instantly i just that was pretty good i thought that was a great show i love that show genius oh wait what's that new show that just came out that's kind of almost similar everyone just traded wives oh the ultimatum i mean ultimatum are you kidding like how can you

watch your fiance you can't get away with shows like wife swap and next anymore and that's what kind of makes it so fun even like jersey shore you just you don't see it like we have how many times have we watched that from one to the end or yeah all the way you re-watch them oh yeah i'm a big re-watcher oh yeah of reality tv oh yeah huge we love it oh yeah i mean i feel like you guys should come up with your own concept. I know. Well, funny you say that. Are we pitching?

Yeah. Hello, sharks. Oh, I also love that one, too. I love Shark Tank. We have something in this realm with our family in the works currently. Okay. Yeah, because I feel like, I don't know, you have the access if you have a good idea. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it's been something that we have been approached with for a really long time because people were always saying that you guys have a good tv presence and you guys are open-minded to doing it and i don't think it was the right time at that point but now we're all kind of older and we're doing our own podcast and we're on tv a little bit more and and funny enough like sly you'd think would never want to be a part of something unscripted and there's sort of a stigma

that is tied to being a reality TV star but he's so excited about it I feel like it's kind of I just did the I just presented at the MTV

Unscripted Awards and they asked questions about like reality TV and I was like yeah I think I said something like

you know being a reality TV star used to be like you i think i said something like you know being a reality tv star used to be like you're like the ugly cousin of a celebrity right but not so much anymore like it's i mean truthfully more and more people are they enjoy unscripted unscripted more than scripted and at some point they're just they're becoming the bigger celebrity even though they're not the most like revered I totally understand what you're trying to say there

I don't know there's something about people being themselves that everyone just loves I think you just I think everyone likes knowing that no one's perfect like even the people you see on TV like sometimes these actors it's hard to kind of relate to them if they're not open about talking about their personal lives but I love seeing messiness or just chaos or even just relationship drama I mean hopefully we'll see if we do that but

I don't know well speaking of reality tv stars uh and messiness uh Kim Kardashian recently said that uh she would consider eating poop oh yeah i saw this if it made her uh look younger and we were discussing earlier i'm like what what would what would be the parameters in which you would eat poop to look younger what's like the extent well i don't think it's that amanda came up with if one fifth. If you aged at like one fifth of the rate usually. Oh. So you're still aging, but it's like going extremely slow.

So instead of like talk everlasting, drinking the water. Cutting in half. My question is, do I get to choose how I consume the poop? If I had it in tablet form? Yeah. If I'm eating it raw? Probably not. No. Yeah, it's probably true. I mean had it in tablet form? Yeah. If I'm eating it raw? Probably not, no. Yeah, that's true.

I mean, it's not that far off. People are getting, what, like bird poop facials. Are you? Really? Yeah. I would be down. I would be down. Like, I'm like, we take shots of tequila.

That's not pleasant. But like, keep it down. If you... Eat a Cheeto, you'll be fine. You look five times younger? I'm saying you would age at one fifth of the rate I kind of want to age though yeah

that's incredible I would do it for like only aging half not even even if it was like one people with fractions are all confused right now listening to this podcast. I know, right?

It's like math. Math. It wouldn't take much, I guess is what I'm saying. Do you think that... Like 20%. 30%. I'd only eat it if I would get like a really cool superpower. Okay, that's it.

The superpower is not aging. That's true. You're Benjamin Button. That's it. The superpower is not aging. That's true. You're Benjamin Button. That's cosmetic. I've got a couple wrinkles. I'll just get some Botox. Okay. When I hit that point.

Do you think she made that comment though on purpose? Because she got a lot of heat for her comment that she made at the Met Gala losing all that weight. And now she says this poop comment about looking younger. I mean, I think everything they do is like genius strategic and it's causing people to talk about it. Well, they have Kris Jenner at the helm. Everything's strategic and

it's not surprising that this comment is coming along with her launching her new skincare line. Is there poop in it? No, but people were questioning that. Oh, yeah. Watch Kris Jenner come out with some like... Because I would do it. Use cucumber drink. Because everyone made cucumber drink.

Now, what if, what if, does it matter if you also felt younger or only look younger? Oh, see, I got bad knees already. So like- That makes a difference. And you look young. You looked 20, but you're still like, you know, couldn't get out of bed. The hangovers are still- You're still like you have one shot ofquila and you're done so that's the

thing is like if i knew i'd look younger but i'd still have all the aging problems like knees and back i don't know if i would do that's just what do you think your dad would say i should stop asking no okay we love talking about sly i think um if i put it in like a smoothie that i make for him i think he'd be down. Why not? I feel like he's probably done it. He looks a lot younger than he actually is. Maybe he already found it. Yeah, maybe he's already done it.

I think I would do it. Look at you. You're like mischievous. Fork and knife. I'm just being honest. Again, assuming it wouldn't get you sick, you just have to deal with the taste of... And the knowledge that you...

Oh, question. Would it have to be yours or could it be someone else's? You read my mind. That's the question. What if it's like a bunny or something? No, human. It's got to be human. I would much rather it be my own.

Yeah, I'd have to do my own. Because I don't know what's in someone else's. Ew. Eating Taco Bell. So would you still do it if you knew it was someone else's? If I had to eat someone else's? Yeah. Could I just pick?

Could I be like, I want my sister's? No. I just have to. I would never have my sister's. I'd probably just try and get drunk and do it. I did that the other night. I had to do a blood test. So I just drank a bunch of wine and I was like,

time to prick my finger. Are you bad with me? I mean, like you can plug your nose, you know? Yeah. I feel like people eat worse. I have a Gatorade.

People are gross. Yeah. I mean, I've eaten some things that taste like shit. Right. Like, like what? Like what?

I'm exaggerating. Okay. If you could pick the age though that you stay forever what would it be looks wise looks and brain

sure like well looks brain and like physical like feeling because that matters too I'm going to say peaking at 28

so I'm going to call it 28 I'm going to say like 33, 34 I would say 30 yeah I was going to say 30 but I'm going to like 28 i'm gonna say like 33 34 i would say 30 yeah i was gonna say 30 but i'm gonna like do like a really good like workout and cleanse program before i like freeze it and then i'll be like i'm ready do kim's like gala prep and be like i'm good only tomatoes here we go can you imagine if vampires existed and you became a vampire at like 64 that's so annoying

honestly you know i thought about that because someone showed twilight and the dad carla i don't Vampires exist and you became a vampire at like 64. That sucks. How annoying. Honestly, I thought about that because someone showed Twilight and the dad, Carla. How old is he in the movie? Supposed to stop at? Probably like 45. 45? That kind of sucks. Like all of his kids are young and they're in their 20s. 45 is still pretty like.

No, I think he's like 45. He's rocking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's fine. But it's like you're 60 and you're in vampire. Like do you still have that?

Do you still want to have like a bum knee? Yeah, exactly. I guess would that's fine, but it's like you're 60 and you're in Vampire. You still want to have like a bum knee. Yeah, exactly. I guess what it fixed, I don't know, the rules of Vampire. Yeah, me neither. Yeah, you do. You read all those books. Come on, don't act like you don't know. I know a lot about it. On the topic, do we want to very quickly hit the Air Kim private plane?

What's she doing? It was just on a recent episode of the Kardashians, her private plane she what's she doing it was just on a recent episode of the kardashians her private plane was shown and it is like all cashmere everything there's a phone charger at every single seat the bathroom looks like is she getting shit for this modern i think people are just i think to the extent that people are like you always get shit for being like exorbitantly wealthy because that's the thing if you're gonna be wealthy if you're gonna have a pj like people who ride pjs for sure you're outing yourself as a pj i've never been on well i guess technically i've been on a private plane but i

haven't really been on a private plane see the all cashmere show says miata it's bill i just knowing it's there yeah i feel like people are like how do you dry clean a plane facts if anyone can figure that out it's kim it's kim it's chris it's chris we need a mind i'm not really i don't really get mad or shocked at this point when they do post extravagant things because it's something that we've been seeing for 10 years. This isn't coming out of the blue. I mean, their homes, their clothes. I saw the one scene of her closet of things that she's just worn one time with like 98

of the same jean jackets. I'm like, this is just beyond. That was a warehouse that she continuously rents this warehouse. So she has everything she's worn from like 2006 onward in a huge warehouse um i would love she doesn't give that away no that's what i was saying it's such a waste but also planes i was talking to the person who like kind of the their head of banking of the bank that the kardashians go to you were talking to their head of banking well yeah okay and um she was saying she was like

planes retain a ton of value so even if you know kylie and kim buy these planes first off they could use it for business i guess yeah i think kylie uses it for business but also if they were to resell even like five ten years down the line like they're not an investment yeah and they also like it retains a ton of value just the cost of jet fuel and cleaning the plane is minimum 10 grand i mean it's just a lot of upkeep it also feels like the next like you should buy a boat thing as being like you should buy a plane like it will appreciate in value if i can afford a private jet i'm going to buy one right well i was going to ask what if you could have a private jet, I'm going to buy one. Right. Well, I was going to ask what, if you could have a private jet, like absolute limitless resources and budget, like what one special feature

would you want to have inside of it? Ooh. A kitchen. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Kitchen. I want to like be able to eat like. Like really well. That can't be safe.

I got it. To have like a stove in the air. Well, I don't know. Well, a safe safe some sort of kitchen because i refuse to eat plain food i don't care if i'm flying first class they're like well what will you be having today nothing nothing i won't be eating your food they take it personally they're like oh really i'm like no i don't want i don't want a microwave salisbury steak or whatever the fuck like no whenever i see people eat crab on plane i go i crab yes i'm mesmerized by the people who

eat airplane food it's just like i i know like you splurge for first class but like ew it's just do you pack your lunch i do i pack my own plain food. I don't know. I either will. Have some cut up apples. There's something about it just like it's not. I'd rather like, you know, eat like if it's I don't eat McDonald's, but I'd rather eat fast food. Than eat plain food. Than eat like something like, yeah, like dinner.

Like that's turned into like, yeah, like a tv dinner essentially it's a tv dinner what i will say though is i feel like some airlines go out of their way to do like partnerships with like those like wolfgang puck yeah i've seen those i'm like jet blue and wolfgang puck yes or even collab they'll have like for dessert it will be like one of those like mom founded whole foods like milk farms or milk milk cookies whatever it's called soon we're I'm gonna be on American Airlines

I'll be like no boo special what the hell no you know what I do cereal you know those little like yeah it has to be packaged

cups yeah you buy those and you buy milk I'll eat some cereal on a plane mm-hmm yeah what kind of cereal

like a raisin bran guy Cheerios are lucky charms you should be that's so mean that You like me as like a raisin brand guy. Cheerios or Lucky Charms usually be... That's so mean. That's an insulting thing to say. I love raisin brand. She said you're a raisin brand guy. Oh, I don't like raisins. I hate raisins too.

Is it the brand? Do I look like a guy who likes to get his five right? It looks like if you had the choice, you'd sway towards that one, not Special K or something. Okay. It's Lucky Charms or Cheerios usually. Cheerios with banana is my jam.

Banana is it? My jam. I'm trying to think what I usually have. Trix, but everything just tastes the same. I always thought the colors were different. Trix, you like Trix? I used to love Trix. As a kid, but they got so-

Or Fruit Loops. They don't keep. No, they don't keep. Even Fruit Loops like that, but I thought the colors meant different flavors, but I realized as I got older- We didn't really have it as a kid, though. We'd only have it when our family was visiting.

We'd buy it for them. We were eating lots of soda. Yeah. Growing up. Well, we didn't have. I had a similar upbringing. We called it sugar cereal. And it was a special occasion.

We had it. But it was on the rarest occasions. Yeah, that's right. And soda also was treated as a luxury item. Yeah. Not like. It wasn as a luxury item. Yeah. Not like, it wasn't, we always had the,

I had friends that like, you know, their parents just bought cereal and it was just, Oh, all the time. You know, like in soda.

Yeah. I'd go there and I'd be drinking like 12. Yeah. Mountain Dews. Oh my God. If I got my hands on a Shirley Temple, I'd have seven more.

Like I went crazy for it. Yeah, I did love Shirley Temples. Yeah, we never had them. I didn't like them at all. I still like bubbly. I still don't like carbonated drinks now

because of that, yeah. Yeah, you won't find me drinking Perrier, so I definitely didn't drink your sparkling water. I love the bubbles. For the listeners, there was a witch hunt before we started recording. Who took my Perrier?

And he immediately accused Allie. I thought she had a can of Perrier. Yeah, Sophia's our first impression of Nick Vile. He's like, who took the Perrier? We're like, hey, I'm going to be here. I'm like, water, water, water. All right, what else I got? Okay, so Millie Bobby Brown and her co-star from Stranger Things had a little, I'll find his name, but they have a marriage pact.

Noah Schnapp. That if they weren't married by age 40. That seems to be like the age of a marriage pact. Yeah. So they're going to marry each other. And I'm curious,

like one, has anybody ever gotten married that had followed through? I have a marriage pact. Yeah. I'm sure it has. And then two,

what age would you make yours if you were to make one. I'm sure it has. And then two, what age would you make yours if you were going to make one? I feel like it has happened. I bet Allie's Googling it right now. I would do that. She's going to be like, Idaho,

1979. No, it's definitely happened. Well, I have a follow-up question. She has a boyfriend. Does she? Doesn't he get upset

that she's talking about marrying someone else? That's an excellent point. Right? Would you be mad if your girlfriend said that she's talking about marrying someone else excellent point right like would you be mad if your girlfriend said that she had a marriage pact with her guy friend i would be you'd be like why are you yeah right i'd be like rude that seems unnecessary and she's dating uh john bon jovi's kid like what would you say wait millie bobby rams dating bon john bon jovi's kid yeah sure How many sons does he have? I think two or three. Because I've met one of them. I know.

We've met one of them. He's neighbors with our parents just moved to Florida and they're neighbors and him and Sly go to the spa but that's besides the point but I've seen

them together and I was like this is a power couple. These two kids. Oh yeah. Is he the one that's Scarlett's age? Yes.

20? Yes. Okay. But I would get married 45 and make that's girl's age? Yes. Like 20? Yes. Okay. But I would get married at 45 and make that pact. Well, what would you say to your girlfriend if she had a marriage pact with someone else? Or your boyfriend? I don't even know how I'd approach that without being- Do I look like-

Am I top liver? Like I require a backup plan or like- Yeah. Am I plan B or C? Well, no. They're plan B. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I Well, no, they're plan B. Yeah, that's true. That's true.

I mean, also, they're so young. I don't think anything they're saying is actually serious. Maybe. I mean, she's looking like she's 26 now. I'm like, my God, her hair is awesome. I don't know what the blonde did, but it changed everything. Why is it the younger these kids are today, the older they look? I looked so ugly when I was 17.

I wore a flash drive around my neck till i was 18 yeah we were losers short story do you feel like like you know obviously you grew up with a celebrity yeah father it seems like and i don't know you two all that well but i've been on your show yeah you guys seem really grounded down to earth like is that a obviously a result of your parents in a specific specific way they tried to raise you oh yeah they i give a lot of credit to my mom yeah kind of circling back to your first question they because we were in such a high profile family my mom as well she has been on hsn selling her products for 20 years so like tv was always around our family they made a huge deal of keeping us really sheltered from it.

And they didn't want us to do any sort of acting job or TV appearance or do anything until we were graduating high school. Yeah, no, our parents were honest about like going to college, going to high school, getting good grades, playing every sport, doing community service. There was a lot of rules. There were so many rules. We were not allowed to have a boyfriend until we were at least 17. We weren't allowed to drive until we were 18.

Because they just wanted us to. And it wasn't like helicopter parents that gave us a lot of freedom because they trusted us. Speak for yourself. I think. Yeah, not you. Are you the oldest? Yeah.

Yeah. Oldest. Oh, my God. Everything is delayed. I'm like now finally having. Well, they have to figure things out with the oldest. Of course. Yeah, I know. I know. Scarlett, my God, she's the youngest. She gets to do whatever she wants. They have to figure things out with the oldest. Of course. Yeah, I know.

I know. Scarlett, my God, she's the youngest. She gets to do whatever she wants. They just realize what won't kill you and they're just like, well, there's no need to like not let her do that thing. I'm the second oldest, so I'm the oldest one. So you got to kind of – I got a lot of the rules. Yeah.

You got a lot of – Yeah. They're still trying with you. They're testing it out. But I think they saw the damage that children of famous people can have on their life. Like a lot of them are really messed up and they didn't want us to, you know, fall under that category. Or they're entitled or they're spoiled and they don't really think.

Have no ambition. Yeah. And so. Yeah. It seems like their rules were set around allowing you to have or be able to enjoy a normal childhood but also realize that we're not that special my mom would always say you're honestly not that she goes you're not she's like you're special to me and your dad and your sisters so that's it like so don't have an ego just because of your name so they definitely anytime we think that we are like a little bit

cool they're like no no squash like instantly seems like you guys have some really great parents they're awesome. Yeah, I love them. They're so much fun. And it's great having a mom that, she's a hardworking mom. My mom was like, created her own billion dollar skincare line. Billion? What you talking about?

Billion. Yeah, she sold a billion dollars in sales. What? Yeah. She's told us that 400 times. Like, she doesn't, yeah, she lets us know. Flex, mom. It was cool because she also made sure we would work hard for everything that we tried

to do. I mean, obviously, having the name comes with privileges and we're not completely like we don't ignore that. But we don't also put not less than 110 percent. Yeah, they've never opened a door for us, which is annoying. Which is actually really annoying. It's really frustrating. I was trying to act a few years ago and I realized this ain't for me. But I knew. I I knew at least I knew

uh yeah you know I would say Sly can you get me an audition can you put me in a movie and he goes absolutely not that is the last thing I'll do if you want to get a job if you want an acting role go out and get it yourself I feel like at some point he probably would have but he wanted to make sure yeah it was something that you were truly passionate about and wanted to do. Yeah. I think because they both came from absolutely nothing. I mean, my dad was homeless at one point. My mom was one of seven, like you, and she grew up in the Valley and she had absent parents. Yeah. So they really understand the value of a dollar and working hard for what you want. And they didn't want us just to,

because we didn't grow up the same way, just to sort of take advantage of that. Yeah. That's incredible. I don't feel like they, I mean, I feel like it's not as easy to do as what they did. No, it's not easy at all. I think from a parenting standpoint, it would have been easier.

Because, I mean, I'm not a parent yet, it would have been easier. I've, cause like, I mean, I'm not a, I'm not a parent yet. I have a dog, but I always think about how I'll parent, but even getting Jeff, my dog,

it's, it's, it's tough not want to not want to just give everything you have and everything you can give to the thing that you love the most. And saying no sometimes and having boundaries can be really, really tough to do. I think it's all about a balance. If you have two parents that are extremely strict and hard on a kid, they're going to lash out and act out.

My mom was really strict about school, whereas my dad, if I said, you know, I got a C-minus on a test, he goes, Sistine, my classes you're doing great like so I think is all about gave some perspective yeah like there's there's always a balance there's a yin and yang and um we're really lucky we say all the time we're so lucky my mom especially because my dad was working a lot when we were growing up he was always on set and even we stay with him on set for months but my mom was involved in everything like she drove us to school every day we had dinner every night together literally as a family the five of us every single tournament for volleyball so i think also the involvement of my mom not just letting us go off and do whatever we wanted and then that's where

showing up is the biggest did you two have dinner every night with your parents no is that still a thing okay because we did and i don't think i think about like like nally and i have pretty much dinner every night and i feel like if we have kids together that's something we will want to do but i wonder if in today's society is it happening less and less there was other kids that i went to school with who like did not do that but it was something that my parents really believed in and And I wonder if part of it too, was like both of my parents worked. So that was like the one time we had with them. That's what it was. So even if it was like, okay, the nanny's going to like prep it and leave it in the fridge or like whip up something easy. That was like the one time when they got home or we like had it with

the four of us yeah and then every sunday we'd go to church and then go to chipotle and my mom would whip out the weekly calendar and be like i'm traveling dad's picking up here and it was like strategy session at chipotle and then we'd do it all again my mom's a cfo so she's very like so our mom was very organized like my dad is a complete b-type messy just just super creative my mom was ocd a type everything's in order kids need routine and they need consistency and like you said i think us having 5 30 dinner on the dot every day because that's when we're all 20 years 5 30 we ate really early it was super weird i love it now but like my dad would even drive

rush home from the editing room being like i gotta go get dinner and they're like it's 5 p.m like why are you leaving so that was important just to bring everyone together yeah that was nice that's great wholesome content did you guys ever get bullied at all having famous parents we actually unpacked a can of worms my friend so yeah i got asked to leave the school because i was getting sofia sofia was bullied really bad they They asked you and not the bullies? No. Because the kids were, the parents were. You're missing key details. I've heard a lot of stories. You hear a lot of stories, and I'll let you finish yours,

of it still seems like bullying is an epidemic that's not properly addressed. 100%. Totally not. It seems like bullies get away with a lot still. 100%. And teachers aren't really actively addressing. I mean, that's just, again, from an outsider,

someone who doesn't have kids, but you hear stories where it's just like. That is the hardest part. And we have a lot of parents asking Sophia and I, because we've been through high school, and asking my parents, where should I send my kid? Because where is the most normal group of kids? And it's so hard to give them an answer

because it happens everywhere I know that we went to um like a wealthier private school for a few years and I only lasted two years because it was all about who who your parents were how you dressed how much money you had where you vacationed and I would wear sweatpants two days of the scene they were not stylish or cute growing up meanwhile you had parents who as we just talked about earlier specifically didn't want you guys to like be these types of kids yeah and we were only surrounded by those and we also didn't like a lot of these kids had multiple houses private planes we didn't have we had one house in la that we lived in. There was nothing else. We didn't have a private plane. We didn't have boats. We weren't racing around that. But these kids were wearing

like Cartier bracelets in 8th grade up their arm and I was like wearing sweatpants and I had boys coming up to me like, didn't you wear those pants last week? I'm like, is this a joke? Like, I'm in 7th grade. But Sophia got bullied so bad at this school to the point where she wouldn't even report it because she ain't a snitch.

And the teachers actually reported it because they saw it happening so often and so consistently. And then they literally said to me, you should go because obviously this is not working out here. Well, they said, we recommend you leave the school because we can't control the situation. Because the parents finance their programs. Yeah, the kids that are bullying her are such high donors of the school so they can't get rid of them is that insane so my mom said f this we're going to school in the valley and we did and it was amazing yeah i mean but that's what i'm saying it seems like stories like that happen so often we're like it's like i don't know if it is it

the teachers they don't feel empowered to do anything about standing up to the yeah these kids actually used to bully the teachers yeah i had um i mean if i told you this the person's name which i won't on camera you'd know exactly who i'm talking about but this kid in particular would make my teacher run out of the room crying every single day it's a public figure this the child kind of figure and well kind of kind of and it's just disgusting the names that they would call them so disgusting it was horrible yeah it's sad and you think about they were only 15 years old treating an adult like this which was ridiculous you can create little monsters if you don't yeah that's why they were so scared yeah

yeah yeah so my mom always used to tell us like don't blame the kids blame the parents and so we never really got mad it's like not nice the kids are doing it but she never also that's why we never retaliated but then my dad on the side would teach us how to throw a punch if we ever needed to so we didn't step up and do anything but if push comes to shove we actually never told my dad any of what went down because he gets so hot-headed and he's so protective that he would just take measures a step too far yeah like if a boy called the house he would like take the phone from us and be like you're never allowed to call again and move to eat i remember i just i had this one guy when i was in eighth grade he would like you tooting your dad's voice for me how does he do it he's like that's when he's talking um sophia where the fuck are you oh no i remember when i um my the first boy i brought home

because i'm the oldest so i had the first boyfriend for example um i'm freaking out and i remember prefacing with him like please just be nice please and he's actually a teddy bear he looks scary but he tries to act tough and so my boyfriend at the time comes in and he's actually a teddy bear. He looks scary, but he tries to act tough. And so my boyfriend at the time comes in and he's just like very small. He's kind of skinny. He's a skinny DJ. Skinny DJ now. He grabs his hand and shakes it.

And I guess my ex was just kind of like this. It was like a wet fish hand. And he pulls him and he goes, next time, shake it like a man. He said shake it like a man, threw it out. The kid came over every day, was squeezing as tight as he can, and he never forgot it. You don't want to squeeze.

There's definitely a right way and a wrong way. And I think too hard of a squeeze is even worse than a wet noodle handshake. Why? Do you think you're trying to be too dominant? Yeah. So you need a happy medium. handshake why do you think it's you're trying to be too dominant yeah yeah it's a i think it so you need a happy medium i think when a guy shakes my hand and squeezes the shit out of it and i and i pride myself in having a nice firm firm yeah like but yeah i read insecure

yeah he's like over but i also yeah i agree that. But then you would also see the sky is weak if you had a wet needle hand. Like you would rather – I read more unsure of yourself. Yeah. And there's a difference between insecure and unsure of yourself. Yeah, it's like cocky versus confident. What's worse though? The wet noodle handshake or the people who hug and it's just like –

Oh, I hate those. I hate that one. I'm like just hug me. Yeah, I'm a hugger. Just hug. I can be guilty of – Then don't hug. If you're going into the hug, just hug. I can be guilty of... Then don't hug. If you're going to do this weird... Well, here's the thing.

I agree. I'm not going up to hug you. I'm hugging back. In LA, the hugs choose you. That's true. That's true. It's so funny how you decide whether in that second, you're like, okay, I'm going to hug you.

When we came up to you guys, I was like, it's going for a hug because I feel hug vibes. With all the I'm a hugger, it's like, okay, I'm going to hug you. When we came up to you guys, I was like, it's going for a hug because I feel hug vibes. I'm a hugger. It's like, okay. I do that all the time. I'm a hugger. Get ready. The worst is when they're going for a handshake and you were already going for the hug and you're like, bring it in. I realize, though, I could

get better, though, at giving just, all right, fine. We're hugging. I get it, though. If you don't have to just bear with them do the the oh that's just weird that's a wet that's a wet noodle i mean listen i can but there's also like a hard thing i've noticed like since we've had guests in studio like there's a height thing too especially if there's so much taller like when we had shane in from love is blind very nice gave us all hugs but it's this weird moment where you're like

can I get on my tiptoes enough to put my head over your shoulder or do I have to do this weird like nest in your armpit

yeah I'm like where do I go does he smell as good as everyone says he does he smells what he had a good smell he had a good smell everyone

there was like from Love is Blind Shane the blonde who had like the wide eyes. That's a nice way of saying he drinks too much coffee. Oh, the crazy eyes.

I'm convinced he was on drugs. For some reason, like two girls on the show said he smelled good. And then they found out what cologne he used. I was curious if that was true. I think, well, he prides himself. He was high fashion. He came in wearing. He's fancy?

He takes pride in his appearance. Good. I like that. I like people that show up. Shows up. For sure. Okay. So you are not allowed to get married in Las Vegas with an Elvis impersonator anymore unless

you are going through the official estate estate of Elvis like is cracking down and like you now have to pay and I just that feels like an end of an era I actually was just saying Sistine I would I always have wanted to get married in Vegas before actually getting married because I think it'd be fun to like have an elope wedding there with Elvis and just remember that for the two of you and then you obviously have like the formal thing. But now it's just not the same. It seems kind of convenient with the timing of this film coming out. Do you think it has anything to do with that?

That feels relevant. Well, I was also going to ask like if you were going to get married and have a celebrity impersonator, who would you want to be officiating your wedding? Danny DeVito. I knew it. Can you just get Danny? Honestly, I probably it. I knew it. We had a card. Can you just get Danny?

Honestly, I probably could. I think he lives in Malibu or something. He does. We had a cardboard cutout life size of Danny DeVito in our apartment. Oh, Dolly Parton

would be another good one to marry me. Dolly Parton would be great, actually. Yeah. She's so great. I didn't even think of that one. I feel like it's a little greedy

of the Elvis estate. I think he's one of the most wealthiest dead people ever. He makes, like, I think Elvis, what does Elvis make on an annual basis? He's definitely made 60 mil in previous years. I think it's only going up. Well, now I'm curious who they're going to replace the Elvis with,

just a regular dude. That's so boring. Well, because before I think anyone could just do it. Right. And now, like, it's, now you, now, I'm sure it'll be done, but like they could sue you. That's such a bummer.

We had this plan to fly our parents out because they just celebrated their 25th anniversary together and we wanted them to get remarried with Elvis and I was just going to be remarried with a stranger. They did that for their like 15 year. They,

my mom and her sister, they all went out and they all were like crop tops and they just got like hitched in Vegas for like a renewal and it was so cool. I'mmed well in 2019 elvis earned 39 million in that year so still a lot for for now not bad anymore not bad it's too shay too shay i do feel like dolly parton is like one of the most beloved like universally beloved people like you cannot find someone who doesn't like dolly parton that's true should we uh talk about drunk i love yous

before we get the texting office hours conversation topic which is just that one in a relationship popular one popular one topical we never quite covered though um in a relationship one have you ever had your first i love you come like when you guys are like drinking or just like having a night out? Yeah. And do you think that counts? When you say yeah, are you the one who said it or received it? Received it. I don't think we've ever said I love you first.

Yeah, I know. Well, definitely not me. I've almost. I wanted to so bad if they weren't going to do it soon and then they end up the one you're with now yeah yeah not me my first I've actually never been in love until my last relationship rp to that relationship um but the first I love you was a very drunk night out and I wasn't that drunk and I was like I think you don't you're not gonna remember anything and thank god I woke up the next day I was like hey did you remember what you said to me and he goes no what are you talking about wait are you serious no then he was fucking with me

oh okay I was like wait but does it depend on does it have to be are you talking wasted drunk are you talking about just you had a couple drinks because there's a difference if there if you're at a club sober or drunk and someone says I love you not the right time a couple drinks because there's a difference. If you're at a club sober or drunk and someone says I love you not the right time. We had a couple cocktails and he just like saw me and was like you know I love you so much.

I'm like it was sweet. I remembered it. Do you think it should be the guy? Oh. Times are changing. I don't know.

For me personally. Now he said it to me first. Yeah. See I don't think there's anything wrong with the girl or the guy saying it first. But for me personally, I'm just too shy and scared of rejection that I don't want them to be like, I really like you too.

And you're just like, oh. I get nervous because I just don't want to hear the wrong thing. Yeah, I think it's definitely like a risk either way unless you've waited to a point where it's so obvious and you look at each other googly eyes and are thinking it constantly but aren't saying it like unless it's that situation I feel like that's why it makes sense to have it be like a few drinks in oh I think it's loosened up a little bit that's why I think everyone feels probably more comfortable saying it when I feel like a lot of people end up saying after a couple of drinks because they're like they think if they want to say yeah I'm definitely not with that risky with relationships

I play it's so safe I almost said it with this one for the first time because I only have been in love once and I didn't say it first the last time and so this time I was such on the brink of wanting to say and I kept it was inching and I was still just I wasn't drinking at that point I'm like oh god if you wasn't going to say it soon I would have said it and I kept it was inching and I was still just I wasn't drinking at that point I'm like oh god if you wasn't gonna say it soon I would have said it and I think it would have been fine and I think if you're feeling it

and you just know in your gut that that person's in the same realm and emotion wise then go at it like I don't care because like look at me

like Natalie said it to you first well Natalie says Natalie puts herself out there first she's like fuck she doesn't give a fuck but I love that yeah that's awesome.

She owns it and she goes, okay, if I, like, why do I have to wait for someone to tell me the thing? And do guys get sort of taken back when they say it first? Because sometimes men, in my experience,

feel inferior or that like, I'm wearing the pants if I'm making all these moves first. I can't speak for all guys. I think now more and more it's becoming less of a thing. Even to the point where I think if it bothers a guy, I think that's kind of a red flag. Run. If it catches them off guard,

kind of like they wanted to say at first, I think they can be disappointed. They can make you make a joke about like, oh, I just don't want to say it first. But if they got actually bothered by it, like offended to the point where they got frustrated at you for like taking that moment away from them, then I think it's a red flag. And yes, if drunk I love you's count. Yeah. Or also like do you distinguish between like the first time they say it drunk versus like sober no i think they count i think they fully count loose lips sink ships no that's not a bad

one that's not it no what is uh drunk words sober thoughts loose lips you've never heard that yeah well here's what i think here's what i think like loose lips sink ships, you can say I love you to people. An apple a day? Because I love you is subjective. Love means so many different things to different people. It means different things to the same person over the course of a lifetime. Like when you're younger and the first time you say I love you, for a lot of people, you're just thinking am i feeling what is this this isn't it must be love i love i'm just excited you know it can be for some people just incredible excitement that's why some people might confuse you know and here

i was about to say some people might confuse love with lust but like again it's subjective no one can really tell people like you know if you are love with lust, but like, again, it's subjective. No one can really tell people like, you know, if you are, aren't in love, but I think it does evolve for people over time, especially if you've been in love before and got your heart broken and maybe it didn't work out. People often are a little bit more careful about that word in the future. Right. And maybe they start thinking, well, yeah, I'm excited about this person and I feel strongly about this person, but maybe they want to learn a little bit more

about how they handled this appointment or how things evolve. So when I think, especially in those situations when people are drinking or intoxicated or whatever, the reality is, is why I think it matters is because regardless of what they want to call love or maybe their definition has changed, they are clearly feeling something. In that moment, they are considering it to be love. And maybe it ends up being excitement, which is why maybe some people, when they say, I love you drunk and then sober, they're like, maybe they kind of pull back a little bit. I don't think people should be offended by that.

I think it just means because I think, again, they clearly are feeling something for you. And if they pull back, it just maybe means they want to protect that word a little bit more. And it's not necessarily something that you should be offended by. It just maybe means that like, you know, maybe in the past they were quick to say it for someone they fell out of love with or they got cheated on or something happened. But clearly you can trust that they are excited about you.

I mean, that makes me feel bad. They are into you. No, they're saying to validate their feelings. I mean, they associated those overwhelming emotions with love and them just saying love. I think people put such a heavy emphasis on the word love and not just enough on just the actions and the emotions and the feelings leading up to it, building on it.

Yeah, if someone pulls back because they said the word love, it doesn't mean they don't love you. It just means that they want to take it. Maybe they want to consider it a little bit more thoroughly and they want it. It clearly means that that word must matter to them to the point where and maybe they've made the mistake of saying it.

What they ended up thinking was a little too early. Right. Right, right. But the feelings of love clearly exist because they said it. Exactly. Ah, love. Alright, well it's time for texting office hours. Let's get to our caller. How's it going?

Hi, I'm Allison. I'm 25. I need help drafting a text to my cousin telling him that I'm not going to his wedding. It's two weeks from now. I already RSVP'd that I was going, but essentially there are just kind of like a lot of bitter feelings going on kind of on both ends um between you and the cousin or like the fam

is this bleed into the family or is it just cousin just you and him so it's kind of on a bunch of different fronts why are you going because it's's in Vermont and I live in LA. Okay. And it's like... Practically, it's just a giant inconvenience. It's a giant inconvenience. It was going to be like $5,000, like flights, hotels. It's in the middle of nowhere. So it's really just an inconvenience. But my problem is I've clearly waited too long to tell them I'm not going

because it's literally on the 18th and it's the 6th. And what are the other – I mean, are you close with this cousin? We were like five years ago. Am I a dick that I would just be like, sorry, this is not a big deal for me? I think a lot of cousins aren't that close. It's not like it just depends. Yeah. It just depends on the person. We were pretty close. I mean, he's like 14 years older than I am. So we're, we're never like, we didn't like grow up together because he's a lot older obviously. But I think the big thing

is too, is that it's not technically their wedding. They're already legally married. And I was disinvited from the first wedding. What? Explain. Yeah. So they got married on zoom during the pandemic. Um, and they were allowed to zoom. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Walk me through the zoom wedding. You got disinvited. Okay. Yeah, wait. No, no, no, no, no. Walk me through the Zoom wedding you got disinvited to. Okay. So they got married on Zoom and they were allowed to have like 10 people at the actual wedding.

And then I got disinvited from the actual wedding. And they were like, good news, you can Zoom in. So they'd already selected you as one of the 10? Yeah. And then they changed their mind and picked somebody else. What? Well, I wouldn't. And they they changed their mind and picked somebody else. What? Ooh. Well, I would have had the person. So I saw the photos after.

And the person that they had replaced me with, I have been in the room while they have talked trash about them. So how did they word that disinvited? How did you get disinvited? Yeah, because they- You should copy and paste that. Yeah, that's so smart yeah that's petty though but they weren't sending me details and i was like hey like what time am i supposed to be there what am i supposed to wear

like chat like classic questions and then um they were like so sorry you're actually not going to be able to join us okay see them them not sending you details is basically their way of saying oh maybe if we don't tell her what's happening she'll probably forget and won't ask questions so what what you're doing right now by not going i wouldn't feel so bad because they kept you out of the loop you waiting so long i mean here's my only concern for her is that i mean even though we joked about doing the same thing, is that they could accuse you of just being petty. I was just going to say. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Have you guys talked to you and the cousins since the wedding or the first wedding? I mean, I don't really know how much you want to get into this. It's quite the thing. They've come to visit me in LA. I've gone to go see them in Milwaukee. And it was like not great experiences. They live in Milwaukee?

Why are they getting married in Vermont? Exactly. Oh my. I was trying to figure out what the relationship is now. So Vermont is not a like, they just, it's a destination wedding in Vermont. So my cousin's husband grew up in Vermont. So they want to get married in Vermont. Okay. cousin's husband grew up in Vermont. So they want to get married in Vermont. Okay.

So married. They're already married. It's not really a wedding. Is this a big wedding or is it a smaller family wedding? I want to say it's like 120 people, 125. Okay.

Is that a big wedding? No. So why haven't you just told them? Because they, so my cousin's so my cousin's name is Brian. We'll put it that way. He was like telling me, he was like, I'm really disappointed that people aren't prioritizing me and that they aren't like making time to come to my wedding.

And like, it kind of was like a guilt trip of like, he even said too, he was like, I don't think when people say they can't afford it, that it's a valid excuse. That's very valid. That's the valid. That is the most valid. It's the most valid reason. Especially if you're doing a destination wedding.

That's like, it's even more valid than I don't like you. Yeah. Because like you get, right. If you get invited to a wedding, especially if it's family and they're not your favorite cousin or favorite sibling or whatever, and maybe you don't even care to be around them, but you're like,

hey, you're getting married. So I'm going to come and be a part of your day. But if you get married, like if you have a destination wedding that requires anyone to travel, I'm of the opinion that you do that at your the at your risk i guess of not feeling special like it is not a dare to see just how special people really think you are yeah yeah i have a question are you the only family member

that won't be able to make it to the wedding? I would be one of the only family members that would go to the wedding because everybody else has already said no, but they're all coming. I'm the only one who would be coming from this far. So everybody's kind of like spread out throughout the entire country. Do you feel guilty? Like you're having to show up because no one else is able to? Essentially. Yeah. That's tough. Yeah. Do they like have a registry for gifts? Because I'm like,

how can we break the news and then follow up with something to show like some kind of like support? They just have a GoFundMe because they want to adopt a baby. So could you like kind of like send the text? Like, you know, we can write out something that's like a very heartfelt,

I'm sorry. And then kind of. There's 150 bucks. Well, and then donate to can write out something that's like a very heartfelt, I'm sorry. And then kind of. There's 150 bucks. Well, and then donate to the GoFundMe right after. So that way they like know that it's. She's like, I don't want to say I love knowledge. Honestly, I feel like I think that's a risk. I think you run the risk of them dismissing the donation.

Oh, I'm also not sure. I think you let them be mad first and then donate let it get them out of their system yeah because i feel like if he if he really told you people can't i can't affording it is not a valid excuse yes that makes me want to go less like i'm going oh yeah i don't want to go either we're not showing up i i can't imagine i don't want anyone at my wedding like if i get married and i invite people i i want anyone i invite to be there but i don't want anyone to come if it's like at a cost that that like or if it's a burden for them yeah like a real burden i don't mean like and maybe what i'm guessing if i'm giving your

cousin the benefit of the doubt is that what they are really saying is like there's a difference between i can't afford something and i don't want to pay for this yeah it's like i don't want to afford it basically yeah but like anything over you, not considering people's individual financial situations, but anything that's like a thousand dollars or over, like you don't get a say on whether someone can afford it or not. I agree. Are you close with the bride? It's two guys. Oh, it's two guys. Are you close with his husband?

I was. I wouldn't say as much anymore now that we live so far apart. I was going to say. I wouldn't say as much anymore now that we live so far apart. I was going to say, I don't know. Whenever I'm obviously on a different scale, of course, yours is a much more serious scale. But whenever I'm considering whether I should go to an event or not, I always ask myself, will my presence actually make a difference being there? Like, will me showing up, you know, make make the wedding party better make both the grooms happier and if the answer is yes then I would go and if you think the answer is not really no then I wouldn't feel bad about also I think you know I hate that quote time heals all wounds I feel like

yeah you're gonna have to rip the band-aid off with this and then everyone's gonna be bitter and they're gonna probably project the stress of the wedding onto this one little situation because sometimes they just don't want to confront what's actually bothering them especially when it's on a wedding day like both parties are like this is my day it's special everything needs to go my way everything needs to show up but we're also assuming because this could also not be as bad of a response if she says it the right way like i'm trying not. Yeah. The fact that it is two men and it's a gay wedding. Is there any,

are they from Milwaukee? Both of them or one of them? They're one. I'm from St. Louis. One's from St. Louis and the other one's from Boston. Do you think there's any insecurity about like not getting the support from

the family that they think they would if it was a heterosexual relationship i don't think so you don't think i i truly think it's like location based of just like it's so inconvenient to get there is kind of like the big thing and they're already married i'm curious how much is it a cost versus an inconvenience to you because like honestly i don't want to get on a plane to vermont that's the i mean yeah to vermont it's like la chicago chicago albany then i have to drive to vermont so it's oh my god and is it really 5 000 do you think it would be i mean airfare it would probably be 2400 and then rent a car, yeah. Probably about $4,000.

$4,500, yeah. So I think we're good. And it's a cash bar, too. What? Okay. You're done. Are you serious? That's all you need to say.

Sorry, I don't go to cash bar weddings. That's it. Sorry, cash bars are a contender. We're actually hitting the truth now. Answer made, answer made. We know what the right thing is. What's the best text? She just says,

I can't go to a cash bar wedding. Well, here's the thing. There's no text that is going to prevent you from disappointing him. Yeah. So you just have to know that. Also, I don't know if this is a text. Yeah, it might be a call. I don't want to call, so I think it's a text.

You've decided it's going to be a text. I've decided it's a voice memo. Yeah, a voice note. A voice note. A voice note because I can have it written down. A voice note's not a bad alternative. At least you can sound like you care. What about a bit mochi?

Yeah, like a talking cow. No, I think that you should do a voice note and have it pre-written as if it was going to be the text you were going to send. So then it sounds sincere. Because sometimes when you're reading a text, that person's reading in a different tone than you wrote it.

And how he's going to read it. In like a sassy way, like bitchy, like, oh, she's not showing up for me. I do think a voice note memo is a... I don't think it's about it. If you don't want to call and get on the phone and deal with what I'm assuming is shame and guilt, then I think a voice note will give a level of sincerity that a text won't have. And they expire.

You don't think that's weird, though, for him to just open his phone and see the little lines and it be like, 54 seconds. Is that even worse? I don't know what's better. I don't know. People send voice notes. He'll find out right away what it is. The second he sees it, he will open it and listen to it and understand.

And if he's never gotten a voice note before, it will seem special. And you should include how, you know, although you can't be there this time, the next time you're in L.A., that you're going to plan some fun night out and celebrate and, you know, do something special for them. Also, I think prefacing that it's really hard to get into words what you want to say over a text and over a phone call, it's like that's so valid because some people have a really hard time particularly what they want to say on a call and sometimes on a text and so i think a voice note is actually the way to go yeah and you can reshoot it and you can write out taping it until it sounds perfect you also can write out exactly what you want to say beforehand yeah i also think you can acknowledge like that you waited to be like i understand that like this is like recent and i just like i felt so bad about this like i think you can just be very honest about that process yeah so that way kind of like acknowledging like any of the things that they

might be frustrated about just like you're not going to prevent them from being frustrated but you can at least like speak to them and show that you're considering them and like just being like i'm so sorry that this is late like i was dreading doing this because of course like i would never want to miss an important event but like it's simply not feasible here's one thing we're missing and it might require a lie because you want to make you want it to ideally you want to send it where it doesn't sound like you just don't want to go and you need an an actual reason right because it's saying it even is too expensive but you could you could say it's just too expensive and you could leave it at that

but then they might even be able to like well why didn't you book your flight earlier or why are you waiting the last minute to like make all these accommodations that are only going to increase the cost of your trip is that is that something they would say i think they would probably be like why did you wait to the last minute? Yeah. I don't think you should bring up the cost because they're just going to throw it back in your face. I think it has to be a little white lie. Can you be overwhelmed with work?

Yeah, they won't let you take time off. That's also a good one, I guess. Because that way they can't blame you. Can you blame it on a sick? No, you can't say sickness. I'm going to get the flu in like a week. I gonna tell him i was gonna tell him because i'm going to vegas this weekend i was like oh i got covid in vegas but then oh i don't love i have to like block them on all my social media i don't love lying about covid i know it's good that is kind of bad now that i think about it but i don't know but like saying you couldn't get off of work that's yeah

and you can do either that alone or you can't get off of work that's yeah and you can do either that alone or you can do a combination of like i was waiting like i kept waiting for my work schedule to buy flights and like i realized and then my manager really like fucked me over and you can say that you requested time off weeks ago and then they granted it and then something happened and they mix up the weekend that you kept checking in and trying to get time off and it just wasn't working out last minute but you have to also make sure she has exactly what the work conflict and i'll tell you the key to a good lie is very specific small details the more detailed the more realistic i don't know amber hurt gave a lot of details not too many details yeah but i think at least one specific detail yeah like at least one specific

detail like throw a co-worker's name in there something like that oh yeah this is a voice memo note i don't think we have to go in a long story i just say i It's a 20 minute long boyfriend. I didn't get the time off of work I wanted to. Like hey I requested time off of work a really long time ago and like What do you do for work? I'm a talent producer for television. Okay yeah that's a very like

unpredictable job. You have to be on set for something. Yeah be like we got you know. There's a new show coming out they have to be on set for something. Yeah. Be like, we got, you know, there's a new show coming out. They have to be on set for,

or maybe you had to fly to Vegas to do your show for something else. And you weren't even in LA. I think you just keep like, I couldn't get off of work and I really tried and they make, make them call you a liar. You know what I'm saying? Like he may not even believe it, but like it's this,

it's a specific thing that's out of your control and that's why you're not going. And I would maybe consider, I know it's different weekends and it's this weekend versus next weekend, but maybe just like mute them from your stories for a bit so they don't see you out in Vegas.

They don't see you doing anything other than that because in their mind, they might think, oh, well, she got time off for Vegas, but she couldn't get it off for her wedding like don't let them have any reason to think that it's not that yeah or are we condoning lying it's not lying if you believe it or what you could do or what you could do i mean in these situations i feel like it's okay because this your cousin's being a little unreasonable. Yeah, I agree.

Yeah. And it saves hard feelings in the long run, maybe, to make it better. I don't know. I don't like the condoning line, but it's a tactic. We're trying to save her, though. We're trying to make harm reduction is what it is. Yeah. I'm okay with it.

Just, like, don't lie about having COVID. And that's a snowball lie. You kind of of have to then you have to perpetuate that lie yeah like i didn't get i couldn't get off of work simple yeah yeah i agree with that i can't knowingly send you to a cash only bar that's just not happening so you know what to do yeah i think maybe like open the note by like being like acknowledging that it's disappointing being like hey i'm so sorry like i hate that i have disappointing. Being like, hey, I'm so sorry. Like I hate that I have to send this. Then we get into the work lie.

And then I think like the idea of like the next time you're in L.A., like I would love to like go out to dinner to celebrate your like make it something wedding specific. And then what you could do on the day of their wedding, send them something really nice like some flowers the day before. Another nice voice note saying you're thinking of them, that you wish you were there. Make him feel special because he just wants to feel special. So try to do some things in your control that are like not $5,000 that make them feel like, you know, at least it's something. Yeah. Perfect. Thank you. All right. Hopefully this was helpful. Yeah. Oh, very helpful. For sure. Yeah. I'm Perfect. Thank you. All right. Hopefully this was helpful. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, very helpful. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. I'm really curious how this turns out. Yeah.

Like react. What if they like thumbs down it? Then, uh, you sell them one flower. You don't sell them a bouquet. You know, whatever.

Yeah. It'll be fine. Yeah. Shake it off. Yeah. They'll get over it. Honestly, they're going to be so focused on the honeymoon.

That's the crap thing about weddings. And this particular wedding is like, to your point, sustain, like, it's not like, and no offense to you, but like,

no, you're not making or breaking their wedding. Yeah. But they just want every, you know, like they want to feel special and they want each individual to care, even though none of the people attending really matter yeah as it relates to like the day yeah i think if anything went wrong on that day

if the catering was messed up like they'd have the same reaction to you not showing up i don't even think you should take it personally if it is a bad reaction also don't get married in vermont if you know and i think honestly today being a monday and their wedding is like exactly like two work weeks away could be like a good day to send that because I mean, I don't know how like time off requests work, but I think like, you just found out on a Monday. Exactly. It's a Monday. It's two weeks away. Like they might've just released a schedule. Yeah. And do it, do it now. Cause you're like, Oh, I just found out.

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