The Viall Files - E525 Bachelor Bios with Eilise Guilfoyle & Keaton Milburn

Episode Date: January 11, 2023

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Bachelor Recap: Bios Edition! Today we are joined by Elise Guilfoyle and Keaton Milbourne to dive into the contestant bios of Zach’s upcoming season of The Bachelor! Before getting to the bios, we bring on True Crime expert, Keaton, to share some recently released information about the Idaho Murders, giving insights from the 18-page affidavit. We also get into some Bachelor Tea, reacting to Chris Harrison’s new podcast episodes, and a current contestant that hard-launched her divorce by announcing that she was going on this season of The Bachelor. We then dive into part one of the contestant bios! We talk about everyone describing themselves as a full package, if being picky about broccolini is a red flag, the pros and cons of teleportation, and Ali’s fear of fish. We also talk about how Cat seems like a reckless driver, and dive into collecting porcelain dolls. We also name our current faves from the first half and give our predictions of who will land in the top four!  “I’m the full package!” If you are interested in running a book club in your city, send an email to: [e-mail]  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to our new email address [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes.  To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com Support a Local Bookstore: https://bookshop.org/books/don-t-text-your-ex-happy-birthday-and-other-advice-on-love-sex-and-dating-9798212185622/9781419755491 THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: ShipStation: Get a 60-day free trial at https://www.shipstation.com/viall. Thanks to ShipStation for sponsoring the show!  Noom: Stay focused on what’s important to you with Noom Weight’s psychology-based approach. Sign up for your trial today at http://www.Noom.com/VIALL.  Rothy’s: For stylish and comfortable shoes, shop Rothy’s. Get $20 off your first purchase at http://www.Rothys.com/VIALL. Earth Breeze: Now’s the time to try Earth Breeze, because right now, my listeners can subscribe and save 40%! Go to http://www.EarthBreeze.com/viall to get started. Episode Socials:  @viallfiles @nickviall @itseiliseguilfoyle @kkeeaattoonn See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's because I love her. Also, well, Elise, how are you? I'm great. How are you guys? A lot of moving pieces. So much is happening. Also, Keaton Milbourne returns as well. Welcome back, Keaton.

So glad you've asked me back. That sounded sarcastic. No, I really am. Last time I was on, I was like, wow, he's never going to ask me back. Sounds like I'm... Why? Because I want to make sure I did good. You did great.

Perfect. Well, we brought Keaton back, well, also to help us with the Bachelor bios. the bachelor uh bios but also keen is like almost like would you say like in in part-time you're like a like a crime junkie true yeah true crime junkie a little bit i think i follow it more than like the average person what you're like how many hours a couple hours like i yeah like i will watch like that's a part-time job. That's healthy. No, that's healthy. My YouTube subscriptions, it's normally true crime people, people talking about cases.

That's what I have always listened to. And I follow true crime Instagrams. I stalk them. What was the crime that got you into? Yeah, gateway crimes. Gateway crimes. Wait, this is so weird. But when I was like, I'm not even kidding, probably like 10 or 11, like I told my mom I was going to be a forensic analysis.

Like that was like I was just always been interested. So I don't know if there's like a specific one. But I used to like walk around my house and like dust like doorknobs and like put tape on them and like get fingerprints. Like I thought that that was going to be my job. So I think that's why I'm so interested in it now. Because I just like didn't go to school for that. But now I'm like, I want to do it. So I think that's why I'm so interested in it now because I didn't go to school for that, but now I'm like, I want to do it. So I just follow it all the time.

Well, we were talking, Keaton was over hanging out with Natalie the other day and I was talking about work and then Keaton told me that she read the 18-page affidavit of the, what are we calling it? The Idaho murders? Is that what's kind of been known for what they're referred to as it's been a crazy case we talked about a little bit last week and I was like

well Keaton you have to come in and and update my audience for anyone who hasn't read the full 18 pages because a lot of fascinating information has come out do you want to just kind of like take it away with an update us of where we're at? Yeah. I mean, I just think it's really crazy. The reason I read the affidavit is because like, I feel like everyone was following this case, but like everyone was really mad at police because no one knew anything about it. It was like, how do you not have a suspect? How do you not have this? Where is there no answers? And then like, I think normally in an affidavit, you would like expect a lot of stuff to be like redacted, I think normally in an affidavit, you would like expect a lot of stuff to be like redacted. But every bit of information was basically in it, like talking about the suspect and all that kind of stuff.

What was the craziest things that you read from the affidavit that were you found to be like, wow. The two like big like takeaways were one, everyone like when the murders came out, everyone assumed that these people were asleep and they were either like killed in their sleep or that like the two remaining roommates were just like asleep and like never heard. So everyone was like, how is that possible? And the affidavit basically was just like, there was one roommate who was not only awake at the time, who was not only awake at the time, but she also saw the murderer who was in the house at the time and then went back to sleep and essentially didn't call police for a couple hours. So that's like one of the main takeaways. And I feel like a lot of people are reacting to that and kind of having a lot of instant reactions about like, why didn't she call and but i feel like it's it's amazing how many people seem to be uh giving their opinion of what they would do in that situation which is kind

of you know bold to say that you understand like the like the mental space of like the chemical of like sheer terror and adrenaline and all the other brain things that are happening to you. Being like an 18 or being a young adult woman seeing a strange man in the middle of the night with a mask. The most traumatizing thing to imagine. Like not even speaking in hyperbole, like literally the most traumatizing thing. It said in the affidavit, literally word for word, it said that she opened the door, saw a man in a mask, and was in a frozen shock state, and then locked herself in her room. That's what it said she did.

So it's like, that makes sense. Like, there's a, I mean, I'm sure we're going to get more. I'm sure she'll probably like be on the witness stand because it's like, in order to like try and convict him, she'll have to probably like tell that side of it. But it's like, you don't know like how she would react. Maybe she, a lot of people say she probably saw that and then was like, was I seeing what I'm really seeing? And then just she was maybe she was drunk. They go out the night before there was like a door dash order or something. Yeah. So there's like the out of the four roommates. So there's like one of them

who is Zanna and she actually door dashed food at 415 or like four o'clock a.m and she went out and got her food and the murders actually took place at 4 15 or 4 12 they say so it's like she had just like walked out got her food the guy was probably watching and like went in right after so that's why people were kind of shocked by that as well because a lot of people were like oh like there was probably like you know they were all probably asleep it was four in the morning but like that wasn't the so that's why people were kind of shocked by that as well. Cause a lot of people were like, Oh, like there was probably like, you know, they were all probably asleep. It was four in the morning, but like,

that wasn't the case. She was, her phone shows she was on Tik TOK until up until the very like moment. So it's like, that part is a little shocking. Cause I think we just all thought it was a lot different than what it is now. Also like, and these like extreme moments or situations,

I think we, we don't assume like no one you don't assume the worst you probably you have a i feel like in your mind you're like oh there there must be something going on that's but i don't understand or normal like you you know like yeah you might you don't think oh there's someone in the house who's gonna murder you're not thinking all of your roommates are gonna are getting like in hindsight, like, we know now. So it's like, yeah, we're like, oh, my God, how could she, like, no, I'm not going to look in my hallway and think someone is doing that. Or conversely, like, if she heard sounds of someone screaming, like, you're probably like, is he gone?

Like, is he outside? If I call the cops, will he come back? Like, there's just, like, so many different things that could be going through your mind. Yeah, because fight or flight at that point. Yeah. And it sounds like she completely shut down. And for other people to be, like, speaking on that as if they have, like, any capacity. There is no right or wrong in that situation.

Yeah. Like, you respond the way you respond and you react the way you react until you're in her shoes, literally. Yeah. Even the next day when they called police, which they didn't call them until, like, 11.50 or something like that, which people are like, what happened in those six hours or, like, whatever. Well, they went didn't call them until like 11.50 or something like that, which people are like, what happened in those six hours or like whatever. But like- Well, they went to bed at four in the morning.

Yeah, they went to bed at four. And they woke up at whatever time. And then when they called police, they said that the 911 call was so like incoherent. Like they were so panicked that it's like they couldn't even make out what was really going on because they actually only called the police to say there was an unconscious person because one of the roommate like the other surviving roommate was saw and like passed out or something so they didn't

even call about a murder or anything like that so like that's why passed out yeah she was like there's an unconscious person whatever that kind of thing and then when they came to the house they were like there's like it's not just an unconscious person there's like four people who've been killed so that was like the whole thing that people were like why did she call for an unconscious person i'm like she obviously didn't know she went back to bed like yeah so i what i've heard is that this is it brian brian guy the suspect of the guy who they arrested he you know was studying criminology some phd guy but also pretty poorly he seems like a really bad criminal but yeah because he the most fascinating thing

i've seen with people commentating is like talking about what they would have done which i find to be bizarre it's like that was your first reaction I've seen a lot of that like on TikTok or on the internet where it's just, you know, they're like, well, if I were doing that, I wouldn't have brought my cell phone. It's just like, what? It's like so weird. Why are you, what?

The degree of main character syndrome is like way too far. Like why are you inserting yourself? There's also just like so much clickbait in that too. Like I saw someone being like, I have questions. And I'm like, who's going to answer them? Do you think you're on the stand right now? Stop. But you're not going to get people to like watch their video.

I just find it so disrespectful. Like, oh my God. So, but from the person who read the affidavit, what were some of the biggest kind of like bizarre moments from like the things that he did that led to his being found. And it almost sounded like the cops were, had their eye on him long before they arrested him. Like I heard they pulled him over twice and that was almost because they were following his, his cell phone signal the whole way. So they were kind of, why were they doing that rather

than just arresting him right away? Why were they kind of letting him drive across the country with his father rather than just pick him up? What was the point of that? Do you know? Or was that in the affidavit? So the first thing was that there was a surviving roommate, which I thought was crazy. And then the second thing, which I thought was even crazier, is that he actually visited well essentially they're saying he visited the home 12 times from june up until november prior to the murders happening which is really crazy they were able to figure that out by like by his cell by tracking his cell phone location they kind of went back and reversed engineer it's like the same cell tower that essentially like reports to like that address or whatever so he was there 12 times he lives 10 miles from there so like i don't know if they could like

really dispute that but i think it is really interesting because it said the hours that he was there was like really early in the morning so it's like does it make sense for you to be doing that and then i think the reason that they didn't arrest him earlier was probably because they're waiting on DNA evidence. Like they only had one thing that they could get DNA off of, which was like the knife sheath, which was left at the home. And so it probably took a couple weeks for them to test that. They put out that they were looking for a certain car because they saw it at the time of the murders, like passing a gas station. And that car, like finding the same, like it was like a Hyundai Elantra or something like that. It's like, you're looking for that

in everyone in the United States. So I think they just had to find his car. And then once they did, they pulled him over twice or the FBI stopped them twice while they were driving. And they said it was to see if he had like marks on his hands, like just in like general, like while he's driving or something like that to like stop and get what he looked like and then they arrested him kind of crazy so where where what's what's kind of going on now what are like next steps in the investigation

so i think the next step would be like he has to have a hearing and like he'll probably plead not guilty so it will probably go to trial i'm assuming since like when he was taken into custody, he said he looks forward to being exonerated. So he is seemingly saying that it's not. I mean, he's innocent until proven guilty, but he is saying he's looking forward to being exonerated. So he'll probably plead not guilty. And he's coming across as almost unbothered and certainly unremorseful. Yeah. But I mean, for someone who's going to plead not guilty, I guess the unremorseful part tracks.

But the unbothered part seems is the more. He probably thinks they really don't have enough. He thinks like he studies criminology and like what do they really have other than like my cell phone. But it's like they have his DNA, which is a 99.999 like match with him so they have his dna at the property yeah because he left the like if you have like a knife the knife that was used it's like in a sheet like in a cover and on the butt he left that at the crime scene and on the button was his dna but he left the murder weapon or he left a case and left the case which the murder weapon he left the case neck that left the case, which the murder weapon. He left the case?

That's why everyone's like, he's the dumbest person for someone. Criminal in the world. Yeah, because he literally left that and it was like next to the bed, like next to like one of them. So it's like, hello? And that had his DNA on it. And that had his DNA on it. So I think he probably thinks like, I don't know, it can be disputed. I have no idea.

But he's definitely going to plead not guilty. But they might also change the location just because of like jury members and stuff like that. Location of the trial. Interesting. Is this supposed to move fast, you know? Have they talked about? I would assume it would move pretty fast if he pleads not guilty. They're probably going to go straight into like trial

yeah i know it's going to be wild it's going to be like another johnny depp hammer everyone's going to be like watching it if they can i don't feel like it's going to be all debated though well you well you could i listened to actually what am i saying this is 2022 there's lots of yeah i don't know also like we don't know if he has any relation to them he like may have known you know like one of them like no one knows that no one knows like how he kind of identified was it the group was it one of them we don't know that yet there's one victim her name is kaylee and she had said months prior to people in her life that she had a stalker. She believed that she was being stalked.

So if she knew, like if she had seen him multiple times, and like said that to people, but we don't know if that was actually him or if that's valid or anything like that. Oh, that would be. So like that would be huge if that was in the case. Like you wonder if people were just like, oh, you're being paranoid or maybe downplayed it. Yeah. So like we'll see

if that's true. That's crazy. It's all crazy. It's wild. Oof. Yeah. Well, Keaton, thank you for

enlightening us. Enlightening us. I feel like we're really right in there. It's my dream. Not my dream because it's really sad but it's like I love

talking about it because I do feel like people on TikTok or like on social media, they get a lot of stuff wrong. You actually read the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah.

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We do indeed. Chris Harrison's podcast. Oh, it dropped today. I think it technically dropped yesterday. It was marked as January 8th, but it was two episodes. The first one was just him. The second one, Lauren Zima was on it with him. And it was two episodes the first one was just him the second one Lauren Zima was on it with him and it was

basically he talked a lot of the first episode was him talking directly to like the Bachelor fan base saying how much he appreciates them he loves when people like come up to him and tell them how much the show means to them and he just he wants to create more of like an honest and open relationship with the

fans which kind of gave the implication that at some point he's going to have people participating in the show or calling in. It's going to be focused, I guess, a lot about relationships. But ask Chris every Monday. No, but I thought it was interesting. He was talking about, you know, when all this happened, certain people wanted to defend him. And he was just in the mindset of, you know, don't engage. He brought up people who were very supportive.

He talked about like Sean and Catherine. He was going down this whole list. In the first episode, he talked about how there were people that he wouldn't name that saw it as an opportunity and were gunning for his job. He said that you were one of the people that like saw blood in the water and kind of tried to capitalize off of the situation. He said. But he said you reconnected at Wells Wedding it was fine so he said i was gunning for his job well no he

said that you saw blood in the water of the situation when he went down but he didn't list me as one of the people like who reached out really yeah he went down a whole list of everyone who was like supportive of you and was this in the context of saying he should be supported? It was more so talking about when you have like a scandal of this size that continues like popping up. People do try and jump in and like add to the narrative and they mean well, but he actually encouraged a lot of people to stay silent because he saw like the negative ramifications of like paparazzi and headlines and whatever. And he didn't want his family to be a part of that. And he was saying, you know, like people in bachelor nation who like, he, he was more of like a gratefulness of

all these people reaching out and like how like people he's supported over the years, then turned around and supported him. And then he was like, Nick saw blood in the water. I'm really disappointed. I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed. Yeah, I think, Chris, take more accountability for what you did. He said he stands by the point he was trying to make. He kind of stands by what he says. He was apologetic for how messy it was and how it was delivered. But I did find it interesting.

He's like, no, I stand by what I said or what I was trying to say, at least. Chris, I would love to hear you make that point in a way that you think would be non-messy and then see if people think it holds up. I love Amanda in this way. I mean, again, I've never been like Chris's bestie, but we've always, you know. He did tie it up with a nice little bow. We grew, really. Yeah. I am disappointed.

I'm pretty sure Sean Lowe would have taken the job if he was offered it I think anyone would have or Wells or Ben Chris said he thought Wells was a shoo-in and apparently Chris reached out to Wells and was like he kind of assumed he would get it

and he was just like run with it I think Chris wanted it to go to Wells and then last thing just because I think it'll be a nice little transition into our bios. One of the women we are going to be talking about who was on Zach's season had a hard launch of her divorce on

TikTok. She hard launched that she got divorced by showing her bio photo. She was like, hey guys, I'm divorced and then moved her head on the green screen and it was her going on Zach season. Oh, who is that? Her name is Victoria.

Are we done with the tea? Is this a transition? This is kind of an in-between. It's a great transition. Victoria is a 30-year-old makeup artist based in Fort Worth, Texas and is entering the fray. Why are the Victorias all the troublemakers?

Fresh off a divorce. That's what I'm thinking. And she used TikTok to promote her appearance on the show. And yeah, it's a hard launch. I'm divorced.

And also, I made a side note that when I was looking at her TikTok on Friday, she'd already made five subsequent videos like around the humor of like,

oh, my former in-laws seeing that I'm on The Bachelor or whatever. Like, she's definitely running with it. Can I just say, there's another dating show, and they actually just decided for the very first time

that any contestants on the show can no longer have active social media while on the show. And I thought that that was interesting. Yeah, it was Love Island, right? But theirs is a little different because it's airing. Yeah, it's airing at real time. In real time. So that kind of makes sense why they're doing it.

Oh, oh. Like you have to disable. You have to disable it. I think it's more for hate and stuff like that because they get a lot of backlash. But I was just thinking about how interesting that would be if that was the case. Well, hate, but it also, I'm assuming if I'm a producer, I wouldn't want it because it would edit their behavior. You know, like I tell you ladies to stop reading comments and things like that because it just handcuffs you creatively you start thinking about like oh well should i say that this or

should i say that just like say what's in your heart trust your character and you'll be fine but like if the bachelor's a little different because by the time it's airing it's yeah it's done filming so wait which one is this Victoria person? Yeah, Victoria. She's later in this pocket. From Texas. Yeah, we might be getting to her next episode. The last page. Yeah. So she hard launched. 29-year-old nanny from Vienna. Austria? She's from

No, no, she's the Fort Worth girl. Oh, okay. Two Victorias. Oh, there are two. This picture looks like she's all bit like she still hates her husband. That two. This picture looks like she's all bit like, she still hates her husband. That's what this picture looks like. Yeah.

Powerful. This picture looks like her husband was taking the photo. It's kind of, her photo is giving- She smells the blood in the water. Her photo is giving army wives. Does she not look like that? It's stoic. Yeah.

This texting native is a full package. Why am I the one reading it? I can't read it. Does she? Who writes these? Who says she's the full package? How do we know that? That's a good question.

Who's making that claim? Also, who describes themselves as the partial package? Anybody? I'm like an incomplete packet. I'll get there one day. I'm on my way. I'm in transition. Rothy's, flats,

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Amen. Also, there's just a lot of like garbage that goes into certain products. And then you, you know, especially if you're going to wash stuff, make sure it's eco-friendly and safe. I had a laundry pot explode on my neck over the weekend, which is why I had to use a dryer sheet to wipe it off. And what happened to my neck, Amanda? Hives. Broken to hives. Why would I want to wash my clothes in those? I feel like you live a dangerous life, Allie, of just being you.

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I'm sure you go see your bio and you're like, shit, okay. I'm the porcelain doll girl now. A hundred percent. Should we get into it? I feel like we have to. Yeah.

Well, let's just finish Victoria here. Divorce A. Yeah. She has a degree in dance performance. And then we'll go back to alphabetical order because I guess that's what they're at. Yeah. So read the bio, All A. Yeah. She has a degree in dance performance. And then we'll go back to alphabetical order because I guess that's what they're at. Yeah.

So read the bio, Allie. This Texas native is the full package. Ambitious and resilient, Victoria J. is ready to live life to the fullest. She is determined to take chances to finally find the true love she's been searching for. Why are you laughing? Because it's just like a direct call out to her ex-husband. Oh, yeah. Oh, parents have been

married for over 40 years. How long were you married? And Victoria has her heart set on finding a love. Like, there's... Victoria's looking for a mature man. Fuck, this is such a call out.

Who will be there for her in good times and bad. I mean, I hope her ex is a piece of shit because if he's not I really feel for the guy. So bad. So bad. She's looking forward to meeting Zach because she knows he's as ready for lifelong love as she is.

Yeah. I'm like, did he cheat? It sounds like the ex did something. Yeah. Something happened. Fun facts. I want to know. I'm invested. Where is he now? Can we get her, can we get the picks up here? Degree in dance performance. Oh.

What does she do now? She's a makeup artist. Her makeup looks great. Yeah, makeup looks great. Other fun fact, Victoria doesn't understand the hype around Pete Davidson. Neither does my dad. Neither do I. Neither do I.

I don't think any of us do. But I think that's why she'll like Zach because I almost forgot his name because is it Zach is it Chris is it Nick is it

sorry Nick is it any of those names Ben Matt any monosyllabic white boy name see I feel like Ben and Matt aren't as

I feel like those are a little more unique Zach Zach is like the four letter ones but I think she'll like Zach because he's very like the opposite he's very like the opposite.

He's very not that. Yeah. Wholesome boy. Yeah. Cool. Victoria's music taste is stuck in 2007. Emo punk music for life.

What's 2007? What can you I feel like it's like Fall Out Boy. Is that like Green Day or something? Yeah. American Idiot.

What was 2007? What was top of the charts? Party like a Rockstar. It's coming up for me. Irreplaceable by Beyonce. Bartender by T-Pain. I love that song. Buy You a Drink.

Apologize. Do you remember that one? I feel like that was a big... Yeah, that was like a slow dance song. Bleeding Love. I like that song. It's good. It's good.

Absolute bop. Okay. Shut Up and Drive. Victoria. How old's Zach Absolute bop. Okay. Shut up and drive. Victoria. How old is Zach? 28? Ish. Yeah.

Or maybe, no, he was like 25. Because remember, Rachel at the end was like his age. He was too young for Rachel. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot, yeah. So she's 30. Victoria isn't made for the cold, but says she looks super cute in a ski suit. Who looks cute in a ski suit?

I don't know. Just those really expensive ones that the influencers wear in Aspen. I like a good ski suit. Yeah, if in a ski suit? I don't know. Just those really expensive ones that the influencers wear in Aspen. I like a good ski suit. Yeah, if it's like cinched at the waist. There's like pure white ones where they're like drinking an Aperol Spritz. Oh yeah, definitely. You can't, no, not skiing. Like you're at the bottom of the mountain.

You know, it's just for the photos. Alright, do we go back to Ace? We gotta start at the beginning. Our dolly. Okay. Porcelain girl. Very sweet. Por we go back to Ace? We got to start at the beginning. Our dolly. Okay. Porcelain girl. Very sweet. Porcelain girl. All right. Kicking off, Allie.

Why don't you... You seem to be doing a good job with this, Allie. Why don't you... Okay. Why don't you just guide us through this journey? Take it away. All right. So, Allie. 26. She's a healthcare strategist from Atlanta, Georgia. And it says,

with a beautiful smile and a personality to match. Like, who writes these things? Allie is a southern sweetheart ready to find love. Allie is a hopeless romantic and has even ended serious relationships

because her exes weren't ready for the real deal. Even. Yeah, they say that, but, like, it's shocking. She's actually ended relationships when her partner didn't want the same thing as her. Yeah, they say that like it's shocking. She's actually ended relationships when her partner didn't want the same thing as her.

Like actually shocking. As you should. She's the full package. Once again. Is she going to fight Victoria? Is this a is this like a full pack of full packages?

Are there any half packages in this group? I'm an empty package. I would love to I would love when someone just in the bio I'm a work in progress. Yep.

That would be the most honest. Yeah. Anyways, back to the full packages. She's the full package and is as passionate about her work and healthcare as she is about Disneyland. Allie hopes Zach can match her energy and is excited to meet a man who's ready for marriage. Nothing makes her happier than her golden doodle named Texas. Interesting. So hopefully Zach can handle a little puppy love

because these two are a package deal. Take a shot every time you hear the word package. Yeah. I find obsession with Disney to be a red flag.

I know, Keaton, you feel differently. He said, Keaton, I know you feel differently. I go to Disney like three times a month. Like her and her boyfriend,

Brandon. Disney adults. Disney adult. You're a Disney adult. Okay, I don't want to be categorized as that because and her boyfriend, Brandon. Disney adults. Disney adult. You're a Disney adult. Okay, I don't want to be categorized as that because I see them on TikTok. There's nothing Disney adults hate more than being put in a box. I do enjoy Disney, but not to the extent. It's meant to be enjoyed.

Do you have a Disney bumper sticker on the back of your car? No, I don't have. Like I'm not. Yeah, like I'm not making Disney. Like my content is not centered around Disneyland. I'm not like, here are the best rides to ride at Disneyland. Like, I'm just, you know, I'm just going and eating the corn dogs. Deletes TikToks that you have about Disneyland.

Yeah. I'm like, sorry. I'm not anymore. I just find it a little triggering that she is as passionate about her work in healthcare as she is about Disneyland. That's a little, that's something. What's even worse is that she's a proud collector of porcelain dolls.

That's the scariest bit to me. Yeah. That's horrifying. I'm like, in her bedroom? The most confusing part, I think Allie might be high maintenance. What do you mean by that? Well, she loves broccolini,

but hates broccoli. I think that's a fun fact. I like that fact. I was like, that's cool and interesting. That's fun. I think that's high maintenance. She's like, do you actually have any broccolini issues with Zach's family? Have you had broccoli?

They're the same. No, they're not. They're not quite the same. They taste the same. If you had a blind taste test, we're going to do a blind taste test. Not in this moment, but. I would love that. I love broccoli.

And I think broccoli is mediocre. I think broccoli, you get more of the fluid in it because it's so tightly packed. I'm going to say fluid a few more times. Am I wrong? And then the broccoli, you have that long stem. Yeah, it has a longer stem. It looks more like asparagus to me. I'm just picturing a person who is served broccoli and is like, no, no, no, and sends it back.

For broccolini. For broccolini. And that to me says high maintenance, but apparently I'm wrong. I don't know if I've ever had broccolini, so I'm not the one to ask. My dad just sent me veggie pills because he's concerned. My point is you might have had it and just thought it was broccoli. He's worried. I feel like you know.

It tastes the same. My question, though, is with the porcelain dolls, does she keep them in her bedroom or does she have a doll room? And which is worse? Where she displays the doll collection is super important. You don't want them to watch you. Did you collect them as a child and then you put them in a storage unit and it was something you did? Are they in mom and dad's attic now? Yes. Totally.

But are they prominently displayed in your apartment or house? I would say a woman collecting porcelain dolls and displaying them is equal to a man collecting, like, Legos and also what he's made them into and displaying them. Which, unfortunately, I have experience

with and a date ended so quickly. When I saw that. That's really scary to me. Did he ask to play? No. I was like, you mind making the noises and stuff, too? That would be really fun. I knew that she couldn't live

in a big city, though, because you cannot, like, collect things and live in, like, New York. I'm like, where are you putting that? But Atlanta's pretty big. Or I mean like a city that is as expensive I guess as New York or LA maybe. Because that's when it's like,

I feel like when you start to have a problem it's like when it's financially costing you in more ways than one. It's like if you have to pay for a two bedroom because you need a doll room.

You got to stop. Oh my gosh. I'm sure she's wonderful. Yeah. Also as just another reminder, we don't know these people. We haven't met these people. We assume they are wonderful. Truly wonderful people. And we're

just having a bit of fun. We should call this episode Judging a Book by its Cover. Because that's what we're doing. We're just having some fun. Oh, by the way, housekeeping. Justin Baldoni is with us this week on Going Deeper. We'll also be getting into the Prince Harry 60-minute conversation.

Also, have you watched the menu? No, I haven't. Oh, you should watch it. But we'll be talking about that. I just think it brings up a lot of questions. Anyways, back to Anastasia. Ooh. How do you know if it's Anastasia or Anastasia?

Oh. It might just be Anastasia, but I love that you said Anastasia. Yeah. I said it with passion. I was like way obsessed with Anastasia. Oh. No, I don't know. It might just be Anastasia, but I love that you said Anastasia. Yeah. I said it with passion. I was like way obsessed with Anastasia. I root for her already. All right.

She's 30, content marketing manager from San Diego, California. Anastasia is really someone special. Who isn't? She comes from a big loving Greek family and is ready to find love of her own. When it comes to finding a husband, Anastasia is looking for a mature man who has his life together and knows what he wants. In her free time, Anastasia enjoys watching Harry Potter movies, visiting her family in Greece, and vibing out to Rufus Dussault's music. I like a good Rufus Dussault concert, yeah. Okay.

Anastasia's done wasting time when it comes to dating and is ready to jump into love with both feet. Will Zach be the man to take the plunge with her? Only time will tell. Yeah, super, I feel like a relatively normal bio. Yeah. Wait till you get to the first fun fact. The first fun fact, I love the word choice.

No, it's not weird, but Anastasia loves animals, but is intimidated by monkeys. Intimidated. Intimidated is a weird word. No, it's not weird, but Anastasia loves animals, but is intimidated by monkeys. Intimidated. Intimidated is a weird word. Okay. Okay. She's like, oh. I'm a bit threatened by you.

I'm feeling a little insecure. I was like, are monkeys going to be there? Wait, what if they actually have a monkey date? How? For sure they will. She'll change her outfit 40 times. Intimidated. Intimidated.

Because I feel like intimidated implies a sense of when you kind of feel competitive. That's exactly what I was going to say. I love that.

They're so flexible and they move so quickly across trees. I could never. Look at that tail. She couldn't do the monkey bars as a kid. No.

Yeah. Joker origin story. I'm obsessed with her second fact. It says that she's always felt a strong connection to Cleopatra. Yes, queen. Absolutely. I kind of get that from her whole vibe. Yeah.

She's very cute. She's very cute. Initially, when I saw just her photo, I was like, oh, she looks high maintenance to me. But then when I see that she's from a big family, I feel like you can't be that high maintenance. And then also, she also says that she fears the day low-rise skinny jeans become fashionable again. And I'm like, I respect that. I agree. Isn't low-rise technically in again?

Isn't that already happening? I'm high maintenance. So it's not necessarily a criticism, just an observation. We know. She's got good music taste. It's fine. It's fine. We love high maintenance. Intimidated by monkeys.

She definitely, there's a Cleopatra Halloween costume out there, right? For sure. She's definitely, maybe multiple times, I'm guessing. All right. Is it Ariel? It is. Ariel. Ariel.

Ariel. Ariel. Every time Nick just says it like crazy we have Ariel what is that bit he's like A-A-Ron A-A-Ron he says every name wrong

yeah that's literally Nick right now A-real yeah we have A-real next 28 don't be real. Ariel. Oh, Lord.

All right. I didn't know it was just like only going to be me. I thought it was going to be kind of like a popcorn situation. I feel like pass the torch whenever you feel like that. Popcorn Elise. Okay. Ariel. Ariel is a thrill seeker.

And here at The Bachelor, thrill she will find. She's adventurous, sophisticated, unapologetically herself, and looking for a man who can match her energy. She comes from a big, loving Ukrainian family and is looking to find love like her parents have. She's a woman of the world and has traveled everywhere from Europe to Asia to South America and more. traveled everywhere from Europe to Asia to South America and more. When she's not jet-setting, she loves exploring her hometown of New York City by going on long walks and listening to SZA. Love that.

Love that. She's truly hoping that Zach is her perfect match. She loves to read Architectural Digest. She does not do tarantulas under any circumstance. And dancing to… Me under some circumstances sometimes and then

dancing to Abba makes her smile which I love to imagine her on the dance floor just smiling I know I love that

Hariel seems like a fairly cool hang yeah yeah pretty straightforward I like it I can see her doing well I feel like she'll be

like a personal like a spicy personality type in it. Cute. How do we want to pronounce this one? Bailey? Bailey. Bailey. Okay, Bailey's 27.

Bailey. Bailey's 27. She is an executive recruiter from Nashville. Bailey's the perfect combination of loving and loyal. She is truly ready to settle down, meet her dream man. Bailey isn't on dating apps because she says she's not looking to date around. She's ready to find the one, and she thinks that The Bachelor is the perfect place to do just that. She is passionate about health and wellness, unlike all the other girls here who definitely aren't,

and hopes that one day she will own her own business in the wellness world. She loves traveling and going on an adventure and hopes that Zach is also looking for an adventure buddy. She's extremely down-to-earth, gets along with everyone, and hopes that her future husband will bring a similar energy into their relationship. I've always found the people who identify themselves as extremely down to earth yeah that makes me highly off the earth suspicious i find yeah i also think bailey was one of the people we met if i'm not if there's not another girl with the beautiful tiktok hair i

think she was one of the five contestants we met yeah was she one of those i remember the name bailey being thrown around. She wants to be a professional skydiver. Didn't she have some little rhyme shtick thing where she was like wake it up daily with Bailey. Oh yeah. I have no recollection of that. That isn't absolutely burned into my memory.

And I have it tattooed on my lower back. Isn't it something like turns around if you jump down? Okay. She wants to be a professional skydiver. She likes her spicy margaritas and she named her dog Charlie after Charlie Brown.

Cute. Cool, cool. She must be like a big fan of Charlie Brown? That's what I want to know. Are you a huge fan of Charlie Brown or you're like, I'm going to name him Charlie and then people are like, well, what did you name him after? I'm like, Charlie Brown. Or you're like, I'm going to name him Charlie. And then people are like, well, what did you name him after?

I'm like, Charlie Brown. Just because that was the first thing that popped into her head. Yeah, because The Bachelor could capitalize on that. Be like, why did you name him? And then she's like, I guess Charlie Brown. And then they, again, make it full personality. She either will get along with everyone or it'll be the same thing where she says she gets along with everyone and then does not. Yeah.

I'm a people person. I love people love me. And then everyone doesn't, does not. Moving on. Okay. Keaton, you want to tackle Becca?

Yes. We have Rebecca. She's 25 she's a nursing student from burbank california becca is incredible yeah she's right up the street um she is a nursing student who has always put others before herself and dedicates her life to helping people she comes comes from a close-knit Mexican-American family and was raised by her mom, who she says is the person she loves the most in this world. When it comes to what she wants in a partner,

Becca is looking for someone she has a natural chemistry with who isn't afraid to be goofy sometimes. She is hoping to meet a man who is as loyal, honest, and supportive as she is. Becca is here to find her perfect match and hopefully return home with Zach by her side. I love that she prioritizes loyalty. Like that, it's good. Yeah.

Wait, I really like her. I like this whole bio. I think she seems nice. Again, I don't know how much like control they have over what's actually written, but I think it's so different when you say, I'm looking for someone who is as blank as I am, as opposed to just leading

with I'm the full package yeah yeah because that's like here I'm doing my 50% I'd like someone to meet me where I feel like they write it okay yeah well I hope they write it because the first line is Becca is incredible and if you're writing that about yourself girls definitely do not write this I don't think they would be like I don't see anyone like the way that this is worded like i don't know i mean you think you think that they the girls write it i don't know well because i know like when you're going through the casting process they give you like this whole packet of questions and yeah i don't remember like writing like a summary about i would love to read nick's if they still have it nick is a boss man looking for love. I remember just being like, I was so like, I took like this psych test. It was like, you're in there for hours.

And when I got to this part, I remember not thinking. I remember when they came when I think they came out or released them. And I remember being like, oh, shit, they they use that. They use this because I remember just like not giving a shit and just like not thinking about it and writing whatever the fuck. And I remember regret like not giving a shit and just like not thinking about it and writing whatever the fuck. And I remember regretting that. I think for the next recap, we should all write Bachelor bios for each other. Sure.

I don't know if they did like big bios for Andy's season because all I can find is like where people live. I think it's gotten more. It's enhanced. Yeah. She loves being outdoors. Okay. Yeah. And she's a big Colleen Hoover fan.

I'm guessing. She likes the romance that's the it everyone loves the calling right now um and she wore a lot of beanies oh yeah love that oh forbidden romance novels yeah does that mean like i feel like erotic okay is what i there's not like some like dark web of romance novels that you have she books she loves the ones she can't quite get her hands on yeah they're like sold out at Barnes and Noble

that's what you mean Becca wore a lot of beanies in high school and gave off Skater Girl vibe okay her and 2007 music I feel like

love it jam out together okay very cute Rihanna first impression rose oh is this oh she did

yes she took the Polaroid with Zach oh oh very cute I wonder if she'll bring it i feel like this picture doesn't do her justice i do like that top though i'm like where'd she get yeah that is oh no she's beautiful i just remember being really taken back when she you were came she was striking and this is a nice picture but yeah she cannot be writing this, though, because it says, Brianna is giving she-e-o vibes. Oh, no. That's so scary.

So scary. Also, the first sentence, Brianna is a boss woman looking to add some love to her life. Yeah. Giving like Cosmo 2008. Take this quiz. What type of she-e-o are you? Entrepreneur of what? Just entrepreneur.

It's one of the most vague titles I think you can have. Maybe she's crushing life i just they don't do anyone a favor when they just call them an entrepreneur no it says she is smart entrepreneurial and creative which led to her owning a successful beauty company at just 24 years old that's why she's giving ceo okay she has a beauty company and it says now that her career is in such a good spot, she seems to have everything in place except for a man. She is a woman of the world and even lived in Paris for a few years growing up. So she is looking for a ride or die partner with whom she can travel to new places. Brianna has high expectations, but she's truly hopeful that Zach could be the man for her. 24. She's top four. I like her. Yeah. She has good vibes.

She also would like to go cage diving with sharks and I think you would love to do that as well so you're a shark in the water Nick's like where's the blood

I want it Brianna created her own language as a child I did that too in solidarity is it creating your own language

or is it like not just being able to speak English yet what's the mine was pretty cringe or is it like not just being able to speak English yet? What's the... Mine was pretty cringe. You had like a mannequin, which is the worst. Like really vulnerable Imagine having your career all set at 24. I just

can't. Yeah, she's only 24 and she seems like she's crushing on it. She has everything in place I'm like... She knows how to set boundaries? Her best friends must like come, or not best friends, but her like friends must come back from dinner with her having panic attacks you know

that thing where you're like I support you it's amazing how well you're doing but Jesus fucking Christ they don't have my shit together yeah she does not do Netflix and chill it says

she sets boundaries yeah that's what that tells me yeah she doesn't have the time she's running a business she's got no time for Netflix so Brianna seems like the type of like what i remember going on the bachelor and being super nervous when i was

thinking about all the other guys and then thinking at the time they're going to cast the most eligible men in the country and thinking how am i going to compete with these people who are just like super successful? And then I like met the guys and I was like, oh, we're going to be OK. I'm going to be fine. But Brianna seems like the type of person I thought. Yeah. Like they were going to cast 30 of where it was like, I just I can't compete with this level of person.

Yeah. Because she her bio is impressive. Yeah. Yeah. For you. Good for you, Brianna. Top four. Brianna. Brianna. Top four. Brianna.

Brianna. Brooklyon. Brooklyon. Rodeo racer. Oh, that's fun. I like that. And she looks every bit of it. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I think he'll like her. Go for it, Amanda. Okay. Brooklyn is a rodeo country girl ready to saddle up for the love story of a lifetime. At just 13, Brooklyn discovered her passion for horse barrel racing and went on to study animal science. One day, she dreams of being a professional rodeo cowgirl and horse trainer. But now, Brooklyn works as a lab designer for an oral surgery practice.

What? She custom designs teeth for life-changing dental procedures. Cool. What a turn. Best bio by far. What? She custom designs teeth for life-changing dental procedures. Cool. What a turn. Best bio by far. What? Zach, get ready to say cheese and show off those pearly whites. Brooklyn hasn't had the easiest. Probably get knocked in by a horse.

Yeah. Maybe related. Brooklyn hasn't had the easiest path when it comes to her relationship history. Okay, get ready for a one-on-one. So she's ready for a fresh start with The Bachelor. Will Zach be the perfect cowboy for this fun-loving gal girl? Only time will tell. Fun fact, Brooklyn would love to be able to teleport.

Me too. Same. Honestly, I'd love that. Yeah. To cut back on the travel time of life. Yes. Yeah, if you could just walk into your parents' house for dinner and then show up back in LA. Yeah, that'd be so nice.

Love that. But also kind of scary that like bad people could teleport. That's true. You know, like Brian. Don't go to that place. Don't go to that place right now.

You're literally being me. I'm like, wait a second though, but a criminal could be in my room. It's like, why are we taking out the good things? We're not saying we'd like everyone

to be able to teleport. No, we just, we've like, I got fearful. If you're a prisoner, you get it taken back. You don't have the ability. You don't get it. You have to get a license for teleporting just, we've like, I got fearful. If you're a prisoner, you get it taken back. You don't have the ability. You don't get it.

You have to get a license for teleporting. It'd be like operating in Harry Potter. Other fun facts, she's a two-step and pro. Does that mean like line dancing? Yeah.

Yeah. That'd be a fun date. Yeah, I've always like thought it was so cool people who can do that. If you go in like in Texas, I would like to learn

how to two-step. I'm envisioning her having one of the video intro packages. I was just thinking that. And we-step. I'm envisioning her having one of the video intro packages and we see her rounding the barrels and then she jumps off and takes her hat off

and goes right into the dental tech. with her new teeth. Is she a mechanical bull? Like a mechanical bull? What is a rodeo? She comes in wearing those ugly teeth things

and then she takes them out. You can see it. She also loves to start her day with a delicious breakfast burrito cheers that's normally like my saturday so hung over food and i'm obsessed with like starting every day like that every day it's powerful all right moving on cara you know what i saw this girl's photo and i immediately knew that she was a corporate recruiter yeah i was like. That's a LinkedIn profile photo right there.

She looks stunning. And I also she was just giving me that like I thought she was maybe from like San Francisco, but she is a corporate recruiter from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Kara is as ambitious and driven as she is beautiful. She really has her life figured out from her career to her social life. But there's one major piece missing. A husband. Kara has tried dating apps and being set up, but she is way more excited about this new, unique opportunity to find love with Zach.

When she isn't hustling in the office, she's jamming out to Justin Bieber while walking around New York City. Kara is hoping to meet an ambitious and intelligent man and she hopes she feels sparks flying with Zack. I feel like I didn't learn anything. Yeah. It's just very... Nothing upsets Kara more than seeing garbage on the sidewalk. She shouldn't live in New York.

She shouldn't go to New York, yeah. I bet she's upset all the time then. Yeah, because at least once a week she's just having a bad then. Yeah. Yeah, because at least once a week, she's just having a bad day. Yeah. Yeah. No, for sure. She can never come to Los Angeles.

The way they put the garbage out in New York, it's so rough. This is nothing. Shout out to Chicago for being the cleanest city, cleanest big city I've ever been to. But even in suburbia, people take their garbage out from the side of the road. I think she means litter. Yeah. Or maybe someone like yeah just

I don't think she's like more than seeing garbage on the sidewalk. Yeah but I don't think she's going up to a bag of garbage and like kicking it. I think it means like I don't think she vandalizes it

but like I need some more specificity because she sets it on fire. It reads here that she is every garbage day she just stays inside. I love that for her. She's not a good

cook, but she is great at assembling meals. What does that mean? I relate to that so fully. That means you are a Trader Joe's That means she loves Hungry Root. Shout out Hungry Root. Literally. It's like you don't necessarily, like you're not necessarily like chopping and frying, but like you can make a mean bowl. Okay.

Cara, we got Hungry Root for you. Use our promo code. Please. And. Okay. Okay. Kara, we got Hungry Root for you. Yeah. Use our promo code, please. And she loves Christmas music. Catherine. Okay, popcorn. Of course her nickname is Kat. Kat was one of the people that went out. Kat was, remember?

Yeah, she was. Kat, beauty queen. Her eyes. Who do we have? Was it Sheena that did that recap? And she was like, Kat's eyes in the background of like, who do you want to give your rose to? Like, Kat was like

Was she like It was terrifying. Even his photos. Don't look behind you. Like Kat was frightening. I think she Keelan she loves hot dogs. No she is my kind of girl.

The second I read that She doesn't scare you. Love a good hot dog. You want to read her bio? She scares me shitless. Let me read Mrs. Kat. She looks like she just hit your car.

Like you let her drive it. And she was like, sorry, honey. I think I hit it on the road. Like the bumper's missing. I don't know if she has an accent, but that's what it's giving me. Maybe she has a New York accent. She's from New York. She has a deep Southern accent.

I just hit the road. I'm sorry. Doesn't. Not Southern. I'm sorry. Doesn't. Not southern. I'm dying. That could be a meme, though, for real. Like, do you mind if I take your car? Love her.

Love her. She doesn't do dinner dates? Well, someone's going home week three. She doesn't eat. They don't eat on these. That'll be perfect. Technically, you're not eating anything. But I am curious why she doesn't do dinner dates.

Like, ever? I mean, first date, I understand. Okay, you want to like slow play it, you know? Maybe she really doesn't eat. Because in her bio, it says she's passionate about dancing and enjoys a picnic in the park. And then it says cheese and crackers and Central Park with Kat. That sounds like a dreamy one-on-one date. Okay, so she just prefers appetizers.

Yeah. She likes a hot desert. She doesn't not do dinner. She likes a glizzy and cheese and on one date. Okay, so she just prefers appetizers. Yeah. She likes a hot dozen. She does not do dinner. She likes a glizzy and cheese and crackers. Yeah. Okay. Kat was a sailing instructor in high school. She dreams of sailing around the world.

Okay. That's cool. Great fun goal. We have a lot of adventure. I don't, like, maybe they just haven't highlighted it. What are you going to put in a bio? I like to sit at home, lock my door at four, and never go back. But I mean, with that one guy done, no one is being honest

with these things. I would like to hear that you're a work in progress and that you like to stay home. You're a shut-in. I'm an in-body. I'm a work in progress. Yeah, a homebody.

Yeah. Be honest. In-body is kind of fun. What's an in-body? Oh. Oh. Charity, 26. Child and family therapist

from Columbia, Georgia. Good for you. Columbus, Georgia. Child and family therapist from Columbia, Georgia. Good for you. Columbus, Georgia. Not Columbia. Not to be confused with Columbia, the country. Columbus, Georgia. It's easy to see what makes Charity such a great catch. Why don't you tell us?

I have a feeling you will. With a smile that lights up the room, a great career, and a sweet personality to match, Charity, wait for it, is the total package. I wrote 17 of them. All right. The Georgia beauty takes her name as a call to love and care for people and has built her life on that purpose. Charity is a mental health therapist and is extremely passionate

about helping people live their best lives. Now she is ready to receive the love she gives to so many others. Charity hopes her future husband is honest, loyal, and shares similar morals. She says she's really excited to meet Zach and thinks the two of them could be a perfect match on paper. What about in person? In person? Time will tell if they're also a perfect match in person. We literally just stop reading the bio and start attacking how it says it.

Fun facts. Charity's all-time favorite movie is The Notebook. Oh, Nick. Ooh, how do you feel about this next fun fact, Nick? I mean, no, as a fuckboy. I have never seen it. Should I watch it? Are you serious?

Yeah. It's a good movie. It's really good. I wouldn't base your definition of love of relationships and dating around it. Cool. Or do it and get really it. Cool. Or do it and get really disappointed every day.

All right, Keaton. Charity wants to move to Disney World one day. What does that mean? You could move to live in the park? It's like, you'll never catch me.

And Charity's like, okay, we have a sighting on her on Tuesday. Can you live in Disney World? No. Nick's looking at me like, can you?

You know everything about Disney. We brought Jenny on today because she's an expert on the Idaho murders and in Disney World? No. Nick's looking at me like, can you? You know everything about Disney. You know why you did that? We brought that in on today because she's an expert on the Idaho murders and also Disney World. I feel like they, I wouldn't shock me.

She currently resides in Cinderella Castle. There's hotels. There's apartment buildings and malls. You know, you go to like. You definitely cannot live there. Yeah, but you don't pay

like an admission to go to a mall. You can't live above in proximity. Charity wants to squat in Disneyland and I think that's amazing. I just thought Disney World

was like some compound that like had like it was like a world. No. Not for I mean there are hotels but they're not in they're not even like

in in the park. Okay. Right. Well. She also throws a mean axe. It's also if you're squatting at Disney World

you can just change costumes. There's a million Disney costumes. Like, I think this is feasible. Wait, that's pretty fun. But she says this is like a realistic goal. Yeah. Maybe she wants to live. So she's a bad goal setter.

Or she dreams big. You heard it here first. Poor Charity. Charity says bad goals. Charity's going through it. No, I really like her whole vibe. Never heard of smart goals, you know? Child and family therapist, that's like. Yeah. I always like it when these, I really like her whole vibe. You know? Child and family therapist,

that's like... Yeah. I always like it when these girls have really like... I mean, every job is fine. But when you have like these... Some of these girls have really admirable jobs.

Invested in themselves. Yeah. And in others. Also, final fact, Charity throws a mean ax. Okay. Interesting. I wonder if she goes

on a regular... Often. Often or she went once, got a bullseye. I was like, I'm retiring. I would do that and throw it on a regular, like those often, often, or she went once, got a bullseye. I was like, I'm retiring. I would do that and throw it in my bio. I'm like, that's my skill. Do it one time.

All right. Okay. Christina. Okay. When I first saw this photo, I was like, she's giving me villain. Yeah, for sure. But she's also a mother. Never mind.

I'm just kidding. Mom's happy villains. Yeah. Mom's. Sorry. I kind of think no that's not true they could be villains i mean i could be wrong but there's something about this photo that's giving this photo it's 100 has villain in it yeah yeah but it doesn't necessarily mean anything you get to pick which one they use quiet no but i don't think i don't

think this picture that they put out there i think the fact that this picture looks villainous. They're doing on purpose. It wouldn't blow my mind if she ends up being a villain. Yeah, I think they take the time. Also, maybe not. I mean, we'll know very shortly, I feel like. Also, all these girls, I will say, are stunning. Like, look at this photo.

Yeah. Gorgeous. It's an attractive bunch. Yeah, for sure. It's a great eyebrows. She says that she is – Christina is ready for – she's a content creator from Nashville. Okay. She is ready for her perfect fairytale love story.

She's a mom to her amazing five-year-old daughter Blakely um who she lives to why do I feel like Blakely's room is like gender neutral and like looks aesthetic for oh see no I feel like it's the opposite it's like it's bright pink in Nashville Blakely on the wall with like a little crown over it either way it's aesthetic for the gram she's and she's a constant content creator she's a constant creator but like so do we think she's like a mom? They live stream everything. She's a mommy blogger. And I feel like we have a we're having kind of a reckoning as a society being like, is this OK? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. It says that since getting divorced, Christina has been searching for her perfect man, but must be selective since she and her daughter are in

this together. Christina is looking for a partner she can trust unconditionally and is open-minded to whatever life throws their way. Will Christina get the fairytale ending that she's always wanted with Zach? Only time will tell. I mean, the fact that she's a mom, though, almost, it's an advantage for her in this show. Why did both her bio and Brooklyn's end with only time will tell?

Yeah, there's a lot of repetitive language. I just think you have one person running all these and they're so tired. What would happen if you could chat GBT? Be like, write a bachelor bio. Oh, yeah. They would do great at that.

There's a lot of like perfect match looking for my perfect match. Because I'm the full package. Christina's favorite sport is CrossFit. Is that a sport? Yeah.

No, they have like CrossFit games. Okay. And you compete for sure. She can do the rope thing really well. Yeah. Toss that thing around. It's a tough workout.

All right. Christina calls herself a grandma to her daughter's pet turtle. Okay. If I had a child who wanted any sort of aquatic creature, I would... We'd have to renegotiate our current relationship. Why? You and your toddler?

Yeah. That would end me. We'd have to sit down with a contract. Are you afraid of water? No, I just can't. It's like, I'm really afraid of fish. Gonna be a no. But the thought of turtles or reptiles...

Are you intimidated by them yeah they're just like so hot um no but i you don't want to compete with their love yeah it's my worst nightmare i think it's the like the rocks in the cage kate not cage like what do you put a tank in the tank yeah and then all the things and they collect algae and then you gotta clean it and then you gotta take I babysat for a boy who had a turtle and like he was the troublemaker

and I would be like taking care of his sister and I could hear him and I'd be like put Spike back in the tank like it was awful and the fish food smells bad

and then he would just appear with him I can picture like Allie like adult teenage child like going to therapy because her mom would just lose her shit

about the fish or like no you can't go to your friend's aquarium birthday party! She's scarred for life. She just never liked the fish. Do you want to come to my lake house? No. Why?

I'm an incredible tuber on the lake because I would rather dislocate my shoulder than be lost. No, I've flipped over and have continued hanging on. That's on me. Fun fact. You don't let go. No, like I've flipped over and have continued hanging on. That's on because like I cannot.

That tracks. One time my dad didn't get the boat around fast enough and I was in the water and I started crying. Like I will. What's your fear?

One time when I was five, a fish bit my pinky. You got a little, yeah. And that did it. A little nibble. And that did it. A lifetime of adventure

is just gone. Do you ever thought about making that fear? Yeah, it's why I eat fish every day. It's like I'm like tacking to a certain dominant. That is so sad.

You wake up and you're like, ugh. Wait. It's like a piece of salmon at a time. So she's fishing the grocery store with heads and she just bites the head off. Emily Mariko is like

your worst nightmare. Her salmon bowl is just so bad. All right, moving on. I would love to hear you say this one. Via. Via. Via. Via. Oh, my God. All right, moving on. I would love to hear you say this one. De'Veah. De'Veah. De'Veah.

Okay, fun shirt, De'Veah. A seductive picture. Yeah. I think you're saying that because of the eyeliner. I mean, she just has a... It's a pose. I think it's her pose. Yeah, it's like a...

She kind of reminds me of Davina from Selling Sunset. A similar name? Yeah, and brunette. That's my only criteria. There they go. There it is. All right. Anyway, who's Allie? You're back on.

All right. Davia is a marketing manager from Charleston, South Carolina. She is a bold and strong woman who is ready for Mr. Right. While Davia's life hasn't always been easy, she's always persevered and is ready to receive the love she has given to so many others in her life. Sounds like, what's her face? Who's given so much love? Davia loves dancing, listening to Lizzo, and reading romance novels like The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo. Davia is ready for marriage. Has anyone read that? I'm about to Google. I got it for my sister for Christmas. I think it's supposed to be really good. Natalie started it and never finished. Oh, she did? Yeah. Is that a

Colleen? No, but it's supposedly really good. It's a Neville and Hugo book. 96% of Google users like that book. It's in the vibe of, I think, people who like that. Davia is ready for marriage and wants it soon. She's looking for an honest man who will prioritize their relationship above all else. Hope you're ready, Zach. Fun facts.

No one has helped Davia through her breakups more than Taylor Swift. Okay. I don't feel like De'Vea has great friends. De'Vea could live on oysters. That's why she looks so seductive because she's eating oysters all the time. Your worst nightmare, Ellie.

She slurped one. She said she can out-burp anyone. All the oysters. Oyster burps. I like to have a phobia. We're just going to call De'Vea oyster burp anyone. Sickening. All the oysters. Didn't need to know that. Oyster burps. Oh, stop. I like have a phobia of burps. We're just going to call Davia oyster burp now. So gross.

Yeah. Oh, Davia. Not for me. She'll have a bunch of Listerine strips. Ready? Yeah. Gabriela. Gabby.

Gabby. Gabby is an account executive from Pittsburgh, Vermont. Yay. Gabby is ready to find the one. She comes from a very loving family, and her parents' marriage has been the blueprint for the kind of love she hopes to find. Gabby wants an honest, outdoorsy man, like Zach, who will always put her first. While it may take a little time for her to come out of her shell, when she does, Zach will learn she's adventurous, loyal, and driven. She's so ready for marriage that she even has her dream wedding venue picked out in

Italy on Lake Como. That sounds pricey. Same. Hope Zak is ready for a destination wedding. Fun facts, her favorite Kardashian is Kris. Same. She loves to tailgate, and she hopes to own her own Pilates studio one day. When she said tailgate, I was like, she drives.

I instantly thought of it as like the car thing. You think she like stalks people? She's like always on their bumper being like, go faster. She dreams to tail people in her car. She looks like shy-ish. And I'm kind of getting that from her bio a little bit. I feel like she's either going to go home really early

or make it like very far. I think she could make it far. Like an underdog vibe. Yeah. Yeah. Because she likes outdoorsy. I mean. Zach's very outdoorsy, right?

That's like. Is he? Kind of a shtick. I feel like the makeup artist that are a little dirty. Maybe he just wears a flannel and I decided that. I don't know. I don't know if we know anything about Zach, really. Other than he's got a really cool uncle.

Yeah. Who's his uncle? Putty from Seinfeld. Oh, really? Oh, wait. I think I knew that. Maybe. Yeah. They had him on the hometown date. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just's his uncle? Putty from Seinfeld. Oh, really? Oh, wait. I think I knew that. Maybe. Yeah. They had him on the hometown date. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like in the background. Only time we've seen an uncle on a hometown, I feel like. Yeah, I think they could hit it off.

Kind of looks like she's wearing a bridesmaid dress in this photo, though. She's got a cross necklace on. I feel like the makeup artists are a little dirty. Like they did not match to her spray tan. Or like lighting wise. Yeah. I just feel like her face is a different color than the rest of her body and I feel bad for her. Yeah, and I don't, I just say it's not her fault. No, no,

and that's why I said it's a makeup artist. Yeah. Because she's very cute. Okay, last one for this half. Okay. Genevieve.

26. But. Neonatal nurse. Genevieve. Genevieve? There's not an extra V. Genevieve. Genevieve. Genevieve? There's not an extra V. Genevieve. Genevieve.

Oh, I'm just making it up. Oh, yeah. I also made up the V. She is definitely the full package, you guys. How many full packages do we have in the first half? At least three. No, there are more than three. She has a smile that lights up every room she walks into.

Not only is she a registered nurse, she's also hoping to be a CEO of a hospital one day. Boss moves when she's not working. Yeah, it's very specific. When she's not working, she loves reading Colleen Hoover books. Everyone is into Colleen Hoover. A lot of romance novel lovers. Playing sports and spending time with her family,

the Maryland native is looking for a loyal, adventurous man and only dates to find the real deal when jenna v beave loves she loves hard and is looking for the right partner to settle down with um she fears fears not as intimidated by animals that are larger than her okay um she goes hard for the baltimore ravens but not like a so she's like not a horse rider? She won't get along with the barrel racer? No. No. Hey, buttheads.

There's a lot of small, dangerous animals. You should bring that up to her. DM her. DM her. Just so you know, like hyenas... Saw your bio? Totally get it. Just so you know, just go into it.

I don't think he really thought about this fear. I thought this is interesting. She can drive a stick shift, kind of. So why is that a fact? I could do a lot of things, kind of. I could do lots of things a little bit.

Yeah, like in an apocalypse or... I could probably get in... So it sounds like she understands the concept of driving a stick. Yeah. Probably done it once. But she'd be Stalin. Yeah.

Genevieve B. Stalin. Yeah. Who can drive a stick in this room? Absolutely not. I can barely drive. Not a single. Oh. You can't?

I thought you might. I feel like your dad would have gone out of his way to. Teach you that. Today we're driving stick. Great. I did learn how to drive on a pickup truck when I was 14, but it was not stick. Yeah, pickup trucks are never... Literally, like, driven through...

I wouldn't say never, but... I was, like, on the roads of South Dakota. They're like, go for it. Yeah. Okay. There you go. That's the first half? Yeah.

All right. Well, that was fun. Well done, everybody. Good little crew here. What a crew. So, early... So, just, like, I know we were missing any... That was fun. Well done, everybody. Good little crew here. What a crew. So early. So just like I know we were missing any who are around the room. Give me of those people we went through your two favorite, your two front runners, people who you think have the best chance of winning Zach's heart.

I really liked Anastasia. Cleopatra. Yeah, I liked her. And she's the intimidated by the monkeys. And Brianna, I think. I think Becca and Brianna are going to be my... Ariel? She was on who we were like,

great hang, listening to SZA in New York. Or Ariel, depending. Ariel. Ariel. She doesn't do tarantulas. I'm going to say Gabriela, the account exec from Vermont who has the destination wedding. Yep.

She's cute. The little cross. And then I think, who got the first impression? Brianna, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to say, she also is from, I'm not going to say her because I think, unfortunately,

I feel like Zach zach maybe she's too boss lady for him christina i think maybe i think maybe yeah i think he's a total sexist you quote you quote me on that i hate him um no i like zach i think maybe anastasia too yeah i feel like christina looks the most like rachel I don't know if that would be to her benefit or her detriment. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Do you think Zach is like ready to be a father to a five-year-old? No. He's 25, right? I think Zach would absolutely believe

he's ready to be a father to a five-year-old. Okay. Yeah. He's actually very the, I've never met the guy. He comes across as very earnest and, you know, mature for his age. So i believe that he would not i don't think that's in any way negative for zach and i i think he i could picture him almost like really it almost him wanting to believe like i can do this yeah i'm ready

so i don't i don't see that as a negative at all for Zach. I'm going to say Ariel. Ariel. Ariel. Ariel. How'd you do in Paris with that accent? You didn't like it? I didn't do it. I did also like Gabby.

You don't speak in French. You just speak in a French accent. I didn't do that. I cannot do have a baguette. You're like, sir, what? No, I made that mistake in my early 20s when i went to mexico for the first time oh boy i don't even that's so scary i don't really embarrass me yeah no yikes say no more honestly it's so funny i mean brianna's like

low-hanging fruit i suppose with her getting the first impression Rose obviously impressive bio like will her and Zach be a match I don't know I'm just gonna pick someone else for fun other than Brianna maybe Rebecca I like Becca I think Becca's fun I liked her too she seems like fun and

spunky but also like raised by her mom and loves her mom more than anyone in the world yeah you know like it's you really need to be able to like like like uh devia comes across and again just based on this off picture like this picture of devia like it looks kind of like shy and demure and kind of like oh she's very attractive. But, like, in Bachelor world, like, attractive and shy doesn't get you as far as, like, well, they're all attractive. But, like, more, like, spunky, outgoing, fun, talkative, you know? And so the bigger personalities usually win.

And, obviously, in a competition show where there's a lot of personalities. I feel like the ideal bachelor personality is like kindergarten teacher you know like animated and happy and like always ready to do and very appropriate to like to like win but you need people who are a little crazy to yeah keep i mean it really comes down to who does who do we think zach is going to think is the hottest correct that's going to be his favorite. I actually changed my pick. I still say Gabriella, but I also think Kara, the corporate recruiter. I think maybe they could be a pair.

And that's what I say. Yeah, she's really cute. I mean, De'Veon can out-burp anyone, though. That is true. Kat's eyes. Every time I scroll past her photo, it's jarring. Like, I feel like she just stares into my soul. Kat's not.

I feel like Kat is one of those friends who buries the damn body with you. Like I feel like if you were Cat's friend, she would do anything for you. Yeah, she looks real sweet and kind. She's probably laughing while she does it. But yeah, I think, yeah, she, yeah. I think that's a good read, Amanda.

Just like stare in her eyes and try not to feel something. I hit your cat this is good this is for next week so no but just greer who comes right after they put her in like a v-neck random t-shirt and all the other ones are in like nice tops titties are out isn't that kind of mean out and about well she put herself in this shirt you think yes they dress themselves i think they show up nude and get anyways so you thought that top yeah it looks like her like medical wear outfit for the day i'm like why that yeah but that to me is like

okay that's a good sign because she's not fitting the aesthetic of the other people so that means she's bringing something to the table that's like honestly yeah she won't

she'll march by the beat of her own drum so to speak correct and that usually goes very well in that world

because you don't compare yourself you don't you're not threatened but you're just like I wear t-shirts yeah I wear v-neck lime green t're just like, I wear t-shirts. Yeah. You know,

I wear V-neck lime green t-shirts. Ribbed lime green t-shirts. Yeah, it's the ribbed for me. It's the ribbed. Yeah. All right. Any final thoughts?

Full package. Elise, can you let my audience know all the wonderful things you're doing? Please update them where they can follow you. What are they? Make something up

if you're not doing anything. I, yeah, you can follow me on everything. It's Elise Guilfoyle. I-T-S-E-I-L-I-S-E-G-U-I-L-F-O-Y-L-E. Did you get that? And then I have a show February 13th at the Groundlings and March 27th at the Groundlings.

It'll be on the website. I will just say, whenever your TikToks come up, I don't think I've ever once scrolled through. Thank you so much. They're good. I'm giving my personal endorsement. Thank you. Did you hear that?

So thank you. She's a good follow. And Keaton? I'm just Keaton Milburn on Instagram or TikTok or YouTube. That's it. Vlogging? Vlogging, uploading TikToks, my outfits. That's about it. Vlogging. Vlogging. Uploading TikToks. My outfits. That's about it.

Giving commentary on murders every once in a while. There you go. Next week we have Lisa Schwartz back. Schwartz. Next week we have Lisa Schwartz. Nope. Schwartz. Schwartz. S-H. Schwartz.

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I'm so sorry, Lisa. Anyway, and don't forget on Thursday, Going Deeper with Justin Baldoni, where we talk about his new book, all about masculinity, dating, relationships. He talks a lot about that in life, and it'll be fun to get into it with him.

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