The Viall Files - E54 Pit Stains and Privacy with Becca Tilley

Episode Date: October 23, 2019

The wonderful Becca Tilley of The Bachelor joins Nick today to talk about doing things that scare us. She reveals the awkward first conversation she had with Nick, opens up about why she went on the show a second time, and talks about her current relationship. Was the iHeart Festival Nick’s “Stagecoach?” You’ll have to listen to find out! Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! Donate to Nick's campaign to cure cystic fibrosis: https://finest.cff.org/walkthepurplecarpet THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS: CALMING COMFORT: https://www.calmingcomfortblanket.com CODE: VIALL HUNT A KILLER: http://huntakiller.com/viall PROACTIV: https://www.proactiv.com/nick SHIPSTATION: https://www.shipstation.com/welcome-podcast-listener/ CODE: VIALL See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

what's going on vile file listeners what was it too much again it's always a surprise to me i always have a panic right in the beginning okay that's what it is. And then I project it out into the world. How is everyone doing? I hope wonderful. Happy hump day for those of you tuning in at the appropriate time. Happy Thursday, Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, Monday, or Tuesday, if it is any other day. Rochelle, how are you doing? It's been a week, but, you know, everyone has those doing? It's been a week, but everyone has those.

Why has it been a week? I totaled my car, I'll be honest. You what? I totaled my car and then I had to get a new car and I hate buying cars. Like recently? Yeah, last week. Why didn't you share this? I was like, you know when you're just kind of in a state of shock and you're like, uh,

and also I just felt like a loser. Were you in the, you felt like, were you in the car, you were in a car accident? Yes, yes, yes, yes. Good to know. I wasn't planning on sharing that, but if I seemed off last week, that was why. Yeah, yeah. I'm totally okay. Didn't you recently have?

Yeah. Yeah. A guy ran a red light and ran into four cars and my car got stolen in January. So that's why I was especially like, are you kidding me? And this time... I'm sorry.

I know. You okay? You seem fine. Yeah, I'm fine. That's what I'm like, just grateful to be alive. And now you have to get another car? I got one.

I got one last week. You have one? Insurance cover this? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Well, that's... It always could be... I'm really sorry about your car. Oh, thank you.

It's just life, you know? Life throws you curveballs. Life is... You know what? I almost tweeted that yesterday on Mental Health Day. Life is hard. It's hard. Yeah.

Even though we have blessed lives in the grand scheme of things exactly the people far less fortunate of perspective yeah it uh life can get you down yeah you know i uh if if i can just be fine that's a win how are you doing i'm fine what what are you dating what's going on there sure yeah i'm active yeah got a couple uh stokes in the fire i wouldn't say a couple but you know i'm active um uh it's a i'm per yeah what is it yeah i'm active i'm uh healthy i thought about you know what what i i have uh i'm having mutually beneficial experiences. Oh, okay. And how did you define that with the other people?

Do you feel benefited by this experience? Wait, you mean like friends with benefits? I'm just saying I'm having a mutually beneficial experience. What does that mean? I know, right? So you're being very cryptic. I know, it's fun. Okay, all right. We talk about being a little bit cryptic

with I Love Lies with our wonderful guest, Yes, we definitely do. In this episode. Another home run episode, if I don't say so myself, I feel like. What a sweetheart. What a sweetheart. It's another easy listen.

Yes, exactly. Becca's a wonderful person. We have become friends over the years. And I think she's just a person who is obviously wonderful and sweet and successful. And she's done a lot with what she's been given to her. So many people in the world waste waste opportunities i think in life and becca's done a good job of of not only wasting her opportunity but expanding it and growing it and uh it's always fun to hear not not wasting it but also not coming off as like fame hungry and she does a really good job

with that yeah like you don't feel like she's selling out. She's very thoughtful in that regard. Sometimes too thoughtful, she will admit. Yeah, she's just a wonderful, just lighthearted person. And I enjoyed having a chat with her. And I hope you guys enjoy listening to said chat. Anything else we need to get off our chest well between you and i between you and i hope not i'm slightly offended that you were in a car accident and i didn't hear about i didn't really tell anyone i was just like why do you do that you don't want to burden the

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into the Miley Cyrus controversy. Yeah. Did we shade Miley in this episode or not no not at all not at all we love Miley Cyrus um thanks for listening uh I hope you enjoy this coming up next Becca Tilly everybody welcome to the show is that my intro yeah well I just saw a an intimidating article about me starting controversy and the picture that was chosen for you. You look... I wouldn't want to mess with that young lady.

I look so... You look... Fierce. Strong. Fierce. Yeah. You look like a high-powered lawyer. It's from like three years ago. Is it really? Yeah.

Huh. Not a... I mean, you know, it could be worse. I've seen worse of myself. I gotta say, I don't know. I've never seen a bad picture of you. Oh my... Go to getty

m and don't do this right now isn't getty the worst getty it's like oh god this is cause it's like i really feel like i have an honest representation of myself on my instagramming yet when i go to getty or why would you go to getty just to feel, it's like, I just need to be brought back down to earth. Well, it's just like, these are all professional photos. How are they taking the worst photos? Is it them, Nick, or is it us? This has really started off in a very vanity episode. But for the people at home, this is what the article says.

Caitlin Carter's friend Becca Tilly has some thoughts about Miley Cyrus being so public with Cody Simpson. The word thoughts. What did you say? And I actually know a little bit about this. This Cody Simpson guy. Yeah. He's a young surfer Australian guy.

Oh, sexy. And she's what? She's just getting a little Australian youth love. Yeah. And basically what happened is Tanya, my best friend and podcast co-host, was saying that, you know, she was proud that Miley was standing up for herself being like, you know, if a guy were to get out of a relationship and started dating a bunch of girls, no one would question it.

But because I'm a girl, I get slut shamed. I saw that. And I actually thought about that. And i don't know if i totally agree no it's true it really is true and i wasn't disagreeing with that but i was saying she's putting all this stuff on her instagram it brings people when you're that massive like when you have that much of a following of course people are going to weigh in on it no i get that but that. But you don't think, and I definitely think slut shaming is not equal with the sexes for sure. I'm not saying that. But if a public figure, a guy, got out of a marriage and then immediately started dating publicly another guy,

you don't think there would be comments about him being kind of like he's a man whore or he's just like oh my god like i don't think people would not make comments there's people are always going to make comments and that was my point like when you put it out there people even if it's like okay this isn't fair it shouldn't be this way and she stood up for herself it's still gonna get a reaction because people can't not share their opinion that's what i kind of when when it came out that was my thought it's just like wait i don't understand if you want to go out and do this yeah go nuts that's fine yeah if you don't want people to have an opinion why are you being so public with it yeah it's like which one is it yeah you can't say you can't go out in the middle of the street and, like, streak on Hollywood Boulevard

and then be like, wait, I want my privacy. You know, like, you can't do that. And I'm not saying she's necessarily doing that, but she's obviously, and good for her, saying, this is me, this is what I want to do. And the thing is, it's like, obviously, if there's paparazzi photos or people taking photos and sending them into tabloids or whatever she can't control that but she does she's able to control what she posts and she's being public with it which is fine but it does bring in these people who follow her or follow anyone who's in the public feel like i need to share my opinion on this like my opinion is so is so important. She needs to hear it.

And as I'm friends with Caitlin Carter, I just was kind of like, this must be hard watching someone that you were, you know, with so publicly dating someone else. And so naturally, I felt like defensive in that sense. And then I didn't really want to get into it because it's none of my business. And I couldn't figure out how to retract like anything so then the article the quote under this tagline is it's like you know there's photos everywhere you know that's the quote for me which is so unintelligent you know you know you know like you know like i say way too much so yeah. You know? You know?

That was me uncomfortable. You know? It's like, you know. Yeah, that quote does sound like you're being very cautious about what you should say. I couldn't. It was one of those, I was in a hole trying to dig myself out and I couldn't. Let me ask you this. Now, your friend who you're defensive of, you felt for her because they were these images

of this Cody guy out there, et cetera, et cetera. And it's like, oh, that sucks. We were just dating and the details. But yet those two were kind of doing the same thing after the marriage. Does your friend, do you think kind of self-reflect and be like, you know what? Now I kind of get from her ex's,

Liam's point of view of like oh maybe we were a little strong out of the gates even publicly there or is that some is there a balance there because it's kind of like sometimes we do that in like relationships we in the moment it feels good and then we see we don't we sometimes shit needs to happen to us for us to see the other side i have empathy for someone else's point of view. Do you feel like Caitlin has a little bit? I don't know. I never even we never even really talked about that.

And to be honest, I don't know enough details. Not that I would share them anyway. But, you know, it's just one of those things where I I could feel what that would feel like, you know, being with someone and then seeing. And I mean mean such a public person you like see it so i just i don't i'm literally i hate controversy so i'm like miley date whoever you want be happy i never thought we'd be talking about miley cyrus well i just yeah i think it's interesting because both of you guys are kind of private about your dating lives yeah i don't maybe that's why

you have strong feelings about it well i guess it's a good point rochelle it's that i yes i'm private in the sense that yeah i i mean i am because i feel like i have i don't know i feel i feel like i've talked to us on the show i feel like i have two choices when it comes to my dating life i can unless i'm in a like committed like this is my boyfriend girlfriend situation we're dating like when you look at my social it basically looks like i've been alone for since vanessa and i broke up yeah yeah like i'm just a lonely guy who's never like how are you still single the scent of a woman in his room. I feel, and, or I have that choice. Or I can look like a man whore.

In the sense that every girl I might like date, go on a couple of dates with, or maybe hang out for a week or like whatever, you know, and if I would have scattered those people who are in my life on my social, like out of context posting about various women, it would just look like I'm a whore. And so I've chosen the former. And that's why I'm fairly private that way. Because it's like, well, you know, I haven't been in a relationship

like the one you would blast on. Yeah. And I do feel like so many people come across as single, but it's like like you're not going to post a photo when you're going on dates here and there with like dating is like hot date tonight yeah you go on the date you're like hold on don't don't move click and you just take a picture of them what are you doing oh god just like gotta let people know i'm out there yeah i'm dating i don't want people to know that i'm just sitting at home alone. No, it's interesting. I've been in a relationship for a while now. And I talk about being in a relationship,

but I'm very private about the details and who I'm in a relationship with. But I still like people will post on my photos like, how are you still single? I mean, I get that 30 times a day i'm saying it's always like any every post i have oh my god how are you still single heart emoji eyes because i'm a total loser i don't what do you want me to say mine's more like how are you still single there must be something wrong and i'm like you know first of all, I'm not.

Right, right. Otherwise, if I wanted to be. That's just kind of how it is. And it's definitely more middle America culture. I remember Troy Aikman. He's a football player, for those of you who don't know. He's retired. He's a Hall of Fame former quarterback for the dallas cowboys when i was growing up i

remember reading the sports illustrated article and at the time troy was at the end of his football career which means he was in his early to mid 30s and the article was about him being single like it not the article wasn't about him being single but in the article it talked about him being single and i remember and i was probably i don't know 12 13 14 at the time i remember thinking he's so old not even that but it was like i wonder why he's single and what's wrong like i remember that it was just more like a there's must be a reason there must be an explanation looking back i'm thinking what a brilliant man the guy was a football player chose to not like cheat like have this like wife or girlfriend the guy probably had a ton of guilt-free sex

retired settled down in his mid-30s and now he's got a family like what a brilliant man like what i mean yeah he didn't have to deal with the the ladies that were yeah on the side of his marriage or relationship yeah so many athletes are like you know they'll they'll settle down and marry like their high school college sweetheart they're like 24 25 and then all of a sudden they become a star women are throwing themselves at them and you've heard we've heard this just a story as old as time oh yeah the athlete who cheats on his girlfriend or wife or whatever. I'm not saying they all do, but it's, you know, it's a red flag.

Yeah. You know, so I'm just like, if you're an athlete and you're in 30s old for an athlete to like you retire, like,

why wouldn't you, why wouldn't they all be single in their 20s? I don't understand. I know. And I feel like it's so common that athletes get married young. It is, right?

But don't you think there's something to be said for the support of a partner, especially in the difficult field like that? Yes. Yes. That is the flip side of feeling like that one person you can trust, the person who gets you, you understand you, as opposed to all the other strangers who you don't trust who are throwing themselves at you, but you do want to have sex with. Oh, my God.

Strangers who you don't trust who are throwing themselves at you, but you do want to have sex with. Oh, my God. I'm from Louisiana originally, and I thought I would be married with two kids by 25. Same. When 25 came around, I was like, wow. Did you freak out?

Couldn't be – no. I was just – no, see, I was kind of like, oh, this was not – I think that was just what I thought I was supposed to do. You know, I had that was just what I thought I was supposed to do you know I had that realization of like whoa this was just uh cultural how I was raised and how everyone else did it so I thought oh that's how I have to do it um and so I didn't have that freak out moment and then I made the wise decision to follow my heart and go on The Bachelor. Did you submit yourself? No, my best friend from high school nominated me. Oh.

Yeah. Yeah, Becca Tilly. Let's get to a little indulge in The Bachelor journey of yours. I always was slightly offended that you got no grief for being a two time contestant and yet do you want to know why because I mean I don't know if this is why but this is my theory

so I posted a tweet when Ben was announced as bachelor and it was something along the lines of Ben is what every 27 year old virgin named becca is looking for that was my claim to fame traction so much traction and then uh the producers called me like two weeks before and that what I was doing for the fall. It was like, Elon. He was like, what are you doing this fall? And I was like, I don't know why. He was like,

you know why. And I said, I want to do it. Like I want to meet Ben, but I want to come on at the very beginning. I don't want it to be a mid-season entrance. No, you literally said, I don't want to do it. Nick did, I bet. I didn't say that but that's what i was insinuating well i mean in fairness like i uh we've we've heard this story obviously from me is that i like the reason i showed up late is because they called me after the season started yeah and i like when this you know me and caitlin that whole thing where i was like i'm not going to come and she would you know you should come like there's no fucking way i'm going and it wasn't and that was

when it was uh uh caitlin and uh what was her name the two the two bachelorettes brit yeah so there was always a that was hunger games that was part of the reason where i was just like hoping they'd pick brit oh yeah oh you're saying they were they asked you to come before it was even started no no no caitlin and i like do work but caitlin was like you should come on yeah i mean like we were talking plenty of her like that clearly we talked about that but like she was like she kind of said it like it in joking wanting to thing. And I kind of said, yeah, that'd be fun.

But like, again, I had such a not awesome experience with Andy. It was just like, I'm not doing that, you know? And, and,

and, and I've said this before, honestly, it wasn't until not to sound corny when I found out like they picked Caitlin. And I remember like, I remember it vividly where I was just truly sad. I was really bummed I was like for three days just waiting to find out checking reality Steve and then I called and

then it was Caitlin and I called my dad and I was just like no you know and then I'm watching the season go on and then that's when I got a phone call and that phone call happened because of Paradise oh they were trying to get me to go on paradise and you were like i'm i'm into caitlin well i i cleverly was just like because i wasn't gonna ask and i was just like it's like i guess i think i've said this already but i was just like well you know if caitlin was your bachelorette i'd probably go to paradise you know and the next day i got a call from the same person um wait if caitlin was your bachelorette i said caitlin wasn't i said i was like well caitlin if you know if they had had they picked brit i would have gone to paradise implying that maybe

caitlin would go to oh it was like i basically planted that seed and the next day i got the call and then i was like fuck it and that i was just kind of at that point mentally all in caitlin would have been fun to watch in Paradise. Yeah, she would have thrived. Oh, that would have been good. She would have been great. That was really, you know, there's some people like I would say myself, Demi, you know, like Paradise is made for some people and The Bachelor World is made for other people where, yeah,

I mean, Caitlin would have absolutely thrived. Did you ever go to Paradise? I'm one of the people who would not have thrived in Paradise. You don't think so? No, but to be honest, because the humidity and like bugs. That's what I was thinking. I would have just been so irritable that I would have looked like the worst person ever on Paradise. Because I was just angry at the surroundings not about anyone else do you

get eaten by bugs i mean enough that it's like yeah i don't maybe that's why i don't get eaten by bugs like humidity i don't know it made it made my my hair be kind of lusciously curly your skin was dewy i was i was like it really thrived down there you really did I was like, I really thrived down there. You really did. It was like, it gave you this new light of he should be the bachelor. That's what it did. Truly. That's my best work. Never have to wear a shirt. Yeah.

That's my best work. That's my best work. The first time I met Becca was, and I didn't know this at the time, you knew you were going back on. It was at iHeartRadio. And that's when I, I don't know if you remember. Yeah, at the time. You knew you were going back on. It was at iHeartRadio. And that's when I, I don't know if you remember. Yeah, at the festival.

I remember it. Was that at the festival? It was at the festival. And I always like, but Becca made a comment at me and it made me kind of roll my eyes. And I was like, What?

Oh God. Was I like, you know, like, you know? No. We were, so I met Becca. And Beccacca you you knew you were because you literally left for ben seasons right after four days later so you you definitely knew you were coming and obviously you didn't tell anyone um and we were so like you know we're you this group and everyone's seen the photos on on social media of the i heart festival Festival when Bachelor people go. And so I'm with the Bachelor group. And this season, you know, Becca's there, I'm there,

Josh Murray's there, a few other people. And this was right after Caitlin's season. So I'm, you know. Feeling good. No, I'm not. Actually heartbroken. I'm not, no, none of the, it's more like I'm just very recognizable.

Like it's like maybe a month after Caitlin's season. So like I'm just very recognizable like it's fresh it's like a maybe a month after caitlin's season so like i'm one of the more recent was the iheart radio festival your stage coach no i mean i did not uh i had sex with one person that weekend but one and it was not a part of bachelor nation um it's great times um anyways uh so what i'm saying is i was fresh off the season now josh uh didn't go on on on caitlin season obviously he was still coming off of andy's breakup and then you were coming off of chris's but there's so anyways when we're there people are coming up to ask to take pictures and i was getting asked a lot about people taking pictures of you and people very nice. And Becca was watching it. She goes, who would have thought people would like you all of a sudden?

And you didn't say it to be mean, but I was like, nice to meet you too, Becca. Oh my God. What? I'm so sorry. That's so rude. I know you didn't mean it. No, that's great. I know you didn't mean it to... you didn't mean it to you were literally

just it was like you were just having an a thought that you said out loud because like becca was just like well this is nick from andy season who like people don't like and i'm just getting a bunch of people like nick we have a picture and like i could tell josh at the time was this like super pissed off too because like he was the the hero of andy season and like you know a bunch of people would come up and it was the more people were asking me and most of it was had to do with the fact that i was more the most relevant coming off of caitlin season and then you were like wow i'm what a horrible i just think it's funny you still remember. It must have hit you. Oh, I remember.

I was like, Jesus. That's so awful. I'm sorry. Yeah, but you didn't mean it to. No. Either way. How embarrassing. Never forget.

But then you went on Ben's season. Yeah, look at that first. That was that. It was maybe. Oh, my God. It was maybe 10 minutes before that which is like given like yeah your face okay so i was saying let's hold up the l for we're both losers i thought that was like funny and self-deprecating and so i thought he was holding

up an l later on i held up a two i go to getty images and i see that but you look great in that photo i look like a like just a turd like why am i holding it now i think i have a like movement watch on must have been the spawn i wore that jacket on my one-on-one date in dublin with caitlin wow memory and that's when i was still you see those? I for some reason thought beaded, although beaded bracelets were like the thing. I don't know why. And like on Andy's season, I did the scarves. I was, I don't know if you go, everyone wore scarves. I'm not like flexing here,

but I'm the reason everyone wore scarves. Because I was wearing scarves. You're not the reason. It's cold out. He's the inventor of scarves. I'm not, I'm not on that season. Christ. And I'm not proud of it.

Like I would wear the, I had these scarves and I brought like two, right? We know. And when we were in Venice, everyone like, whoa, let's just buy scarves. And then everyone started wearing them.

And they went out and bought them. And then it became like, and again in that show, because the way they record it, like you can wear something a handful of times and then when they air it it looks like everyone's wearing it all the time it was like the pink jacket of yeah so then and then i remember watching it being well this was stupid and then for some reason i didn't learn my lesson going back on caitlin sees it's like no no not scarves beads seated bracelet and now you're the chain guy

so yeah well now and then but I would what I would do what I will say is I would never do that on a on a bachelor show

is wear a chain I've learned that you don't take fashion that's not the place to take fashion risks what kind of chain are we talking about I like

I like a an occasional wallet wallet chain oh a wallet chain I've been sporting that now and then I like a good wallet chain yeah the, a wallet chain. I've been sporting that now and then. I like a good wallet chain. The thing with Bachelor, though,

I go back and watch episodes and I'm like, that outfit is so heinous. For you or anyone else? For me. No. I'm totally Googling. I'm careful what I say. She has a tablet right in her mouth.

Yeah, fashion moves fast. It does. And I remember thanking everyone on that season. I was like, God, everyone's dressed so well. And I went back and watched an episode, and I was like, oof. Oh, and then the one in the orange shirt, I have sweat stains on my armpit.

They didn't even get those out is that not so rude and i literally wait that's your like bachelor yeah and i'm not even trying to like i only sweat under my armpits when i'm like nervous yeah so naturally it's like our biopic i was nervous they could yeah i almost died when i saw it. I was like... You still look really good. It's certainly not as bad as mine, which was so bad of a photo that now that like me, people will speak to my glow up. There'll be comments of like,

there are some people like when they compare the old, that one first photo to like me now, is like facial reconstruction of like... I mean, to be honest, yeah, you but part of it is some of it is a beard a new haircut and like a tan literally that's all it is and it's just also a particularly bad photo versus the photos i choose to put on my social which is still look like me and not augmented but it's still my favorite it's like my best photo i took out of seven like even tyler cameron looked horrible in his biopic like they have bad photographers i don't

know why they do it i remember seeing hannah's uh like guys on their biopics and i was like this might be the worst looking like season of. And I literally think she had one of the best looking. I think Caitlyn's season and I think Hannah's were like hottest. JoJo's. JoJo had some. Actually, I would disagree. JoJo had some great looking guys. Their personalities, not maybe so much.

But like if you're just looking for for some pretty men i mean chase is a good looking dude oh yeah yeah no luke is a good looking guy there's always i'm just i was just saying like how bad those biopics yeah they'll be yeah oh they're terrible they're terrible even for the girls it's like you see them on the show when they're like speaking and like you're you can see their personality you're like oh she that her picture did not do her justice. For questions that annoy you the most, I imagine having been in similar situations, do you get asked who you liked more, Chris or Ben, all the time?

Yeah, but it's kind of easy for me to answer that because when I went on Chris's season, I didn't watch the show like regularly or lo loyally so I didn't I didn't know much about Chris other than he was a farmer and everyone loved him so when I went on his season it was kind of like why not like let's go see what happens and the normal kind of experience and then um Ben's season I like specifically went and I cried on Ben's he you know he made me cry so you were more heartbroken when Ben sent you home than being the runner up

yeah because well because going into when I got dumped by Chris in the barn in Iowa I knew freezing cold barn yeah it was like you could see our breath. But going into that day, I knew that it wasn't going to be me because I knew they wanted a proposal.

I told him that I wouldn't say yes to a proposal. And I just like had this feeling. And so when he broke up with me, I wasn't like, oh, my God. When you told Chris you didn't want a proposal. You told Chris or the producers? Chris. I'm shocked that they didn't hear it. There were cameras right in our face.

We were mic'd. Did you, are you, were you, but you were probably also glad, nothing against Chris, but you were probably like, hey, he's a nice guy, but I don't even know, I don't want to get a proposal. But was it fair to say you're like, how do I try? You were pretty clear. They did air, I live san diego and i kind of like it right imagine chris being like oh no i'm picking you and we weren't like if it was the colton thing right like yeah it's like hey well you're you're it yeah you know if colton pulled a chris and it was like i don't care i don't care

i want to date you what do you think you would have done i mean i would have i would have tried but because then chris ended up coming to la and was on dancing with the stars so i think you would have done? I mean, I would have. I would have tried. But because then Chris ended up coming to LA and was on Dancing with the Stars. So I think it would have like, at least that part would have been easy. So we could have at least spent time together. Because I just remember being at the end being like, I don't even know him. Like, I've spent so little time with him. And like, I couldn't because, you know, you watch the watch the show you hear about it and you're like well eight weeks if you're like spending a lot of time with someone some people know within like

the first date i think i spent like a total 48 hours with him like i could not imagine oh that's i think that's being generous generous 48 48 total hours like all together together. Yeah. No way. Not even close. Yeah. Right? I think it's so funny. Because like what is a one-on-one date? Tops is maybe five hours. But are you taking away the ITM interview?

I'm talking about just actual time together in each other's presence. So maybe like two and a half, three hours in the morning part of the day, the day portion a so maybe like two and a half three hours in the morning part of the day the day portion and then another two and a half so like five hours tops so you get so that's five you get maybe three one-on-ones if you're in a finale so there's 15 hours 20 hours then your overnight date is another i mean really no way it's 48 hours i'm telling you so i remember being at the end like people get engaged how do they say yes to a marriage like a like vowed or you know proposal to get married um but you guys didn't consummate in the fantasy suite no i was that was my storyline i was a virgin yeah i know i know i know but. I know. But I'm just. Yeah. That was not where.

Surprise. I lied. I didn't, you know, save myself for that long to consummate it with a man I knew for. Good for you. That would be a weird place to lose your virginity. I'm like, listen, I know you might be sleeping with. I know you may have slept with someone last night. And I know you might be sleeping with someone tomorrow night.

But this feels like my moment my time to shine so yeah and then ben sends you home actually i do remember actually running into you at another event after ben sent you home and i do remember you actually told me that you were really you were like nick i'm really and i think you kind of referred to like my experience with Caitlin you were just like I was really yeah crushed yeah that one it hurt it it like hurt my feelings which is so sad to say you know but that was my feeling of like oh is that because you were more vulnerable you feel like I think so I think I just was I think my feelings were stronger for him and so and I I knew that he what like I could see his relationships with some of the other girls and i was like i know he's not as into me as those other girls well on that point like i've always kind of said like with with caitlin i get asked the same

question it's it's not a you know i i care for andy and caitlin in the context of that world it's hard for me to like yeah say which one I liked more. But with Caitlin, it was incredibly different because it was in fact for the girl. I did go for Caitlin. That's why I went. It went because I really in that moment liked her. And if it was anyone else, I would have been a one hit wonder.

If it weren't for my infatuation with with caitlin at the time i would never would have gone back on i never would have done paradise i would have just sold software wouldn't have done a charman commercial together would not have done oh that was a great commercial i loved that thank you we take great pride in our creativity with our ball movement did you guys really write that yourselves yeah yeah we just we just like talked about being number twos and such. That's awesome. And then writing it is like, Becca kind of came up with the original idea

and then I kind of came up with like, well, here's what I think we should talk about. And then we just kind of rifted and then we just rifted for about 15, 20 minutes. Rifted? It's funny though. Is that a word? Rift? It's funny because Nick is like,

he's like a professional in the sense of like he would just like go start talking to me like all right let's do it again and i was just kind of like following his lead because i have no experience in like improv like that so i was like so it was their idea of you guys were number twos they had the original idea of just playing off the concept of runner-ups number two and then what you know taking a shit means um and from that point we really tried to hone in on um yeah on it so on shit speaking of becca i've always you've done such a good job of people in Bachelor Nation, so many of us constantly, it's this balance of staying connected to the franchise in ways,

but also trying to separate ourselves and follow our own dreams, in which you've done such a good job. I mean, you did go back on twice, but it's been such a long time since you've been on the show. And yet you are having a bunch of success and i know we'll get into your fashion line that you just launched which is very exciting but even before that you've been doing a bunch of other things and why do you think that is that you've been so successful um i guess in your longevity which is you've done in a you've had a very different path you've done more than I guess maybe is meant. You could argue that more than anyone in Bachelor Nation, you have stayed quote unquote relevant

and been successful in your career without relying so much on Bachelor Nation. Oh, wow. Thank you. That's a very big compliment. I think, I mean, I don't know how to answer that question because I hate talking about myself or any like success or anything.

But when I think I had a I feel like you could probably attest to this, too. But when we went on the show, social media was just having a moment. So right when after Chris's season, I just had a bunch of new followers. Like that was the only change in my life yeah and people would like want to talk about the show but everything else is back it was just kind of a it was like neat that was like cool people like i have a lot of people that care about my weekend activity so um after and so then after ben's season it was kind of like some companies reached out and i was like oh my god like i'm getting paid to I'm getting free stuff and all I have to do is post a photo like I've really become jaded and like the

years of how that works but um I like just went back to my normal life it wasn't I was very happy doing what I was I worked for a chiropractor I like loved my friends I was in san diego i had like a great life and um i met robert who ended up being my boyfriend but at the time we were just friends and he had an agency and he was kind of like hey if you want to do like brand um collaborations you could you know make a living off of this so um i decided to move up to la and i still had no idea. I was like doing flat tummy T things. I was getting destroyed for those. And I kind of was like, what am I doing? How was this going to last?

Is this just a moment in my life? And then I can go back to how things were. And I met my manager, who's also my best friend Ali Grant and um she kind of just helped steer me in a direction where I was able to do what I wanted to do without like selling out to you know the social media world you know like I was able to have I could focus on what I wanted to do and say no to things I didn't want to do and I think people have just stuck with me because they connected to me for whatever reason. And now I have a podcast with my best friend. And we have, I would say, the best listeners,

the most encouraging, supportive. I did an event last night for my line with Macy's. And I would say say 90 of the people it was like a huge crowd i was shocked like i thought i was gonna be talking to like five people and i was shocked at how many people came out of our listeners just to support you know what i do so um i don't know i think people just connected to me at that time and they've just stayed with me and now you have your fashion line and now i have my fashion line want to plug it yeah tell us about it i mean it's pretty cool like it's

it's not uh it's certainly not nothing it's not some like it's it's with a macy's yeah obviously a big well-known brand yeah i think um the fashion world kind of intimidates me a little bit and so many people have done collaborations and lines. And I kind of just put it on the back burner because I didn't know. I was like, where do I begin? How do I start this? Do I partner with someone?

Do I do it myself? But you had wanted to do it for a while. Yeah, but always was kind of, it was one of those things like I want to do it, but I might never do it because I'm scared. And so Macy's approached me last year right before Christmas and said that they want to do a collaboration with their line bar three. They kind of wanted to do a rebrand and have someone come in and design a line.

And I went to New York and I designed everything myself. Like I got to choose everything. It was not like, here's your options. Which one do you want? It was like, let's create something out one do you want it was like let's create something out of nothing so that's really cool yeah so it was really fun and um it's on macy's the sizes are extra extra small to extra extra large and the price point is 39.50 to 129 so affordable so reasonable yeah yeah are you wearing it my now? My sweater is not on. So cute. I almost didn't wear it.

I was like, what am I doing? Opportunities here. Come on. That's super exciting. Yeah. So thanks for letting me talk about it. My pleasure. Anything else about the line that like, I mean, I think it's really, I didn't realize

that you, you know, starting it from scratch. I wouldn't have thought that. I would have thought that they would have been like, all right, you know. I know. Which of these 10 things do you like? You know, like fine. Yeah, that's what I thought it was. Like here are your options.

But you really got to design. Mm-hmm. And having done that, I've talked a lot about this on the show about so many things are intimidating for us. And yet, you know, listen, to be successful takes hard work and all those things, but when it comes to sometimes doing things that intimidate us, they usually, once we just start it and go for it,

aren't as complicated as we originally thought. And when we, after we get done doing it, you look back and yeah, probably took a lot of work and there were some intimidating moments, but like you were capable of doing. And it's almost kind of like, why didn't I tackle this before? And it's always this kind of reminder that the things that

we often just avoid the things that intimidate us because like, I can never do that. And we just go. I am like the ultimate avoider of things that intimidate me. Do you think now that you've done this, there's more things to come for Becca Tilly? Maybe not necessarily in the fashion world, but even your personal life of like when things intimidate you. Will you remember this moment of, well, if I could do that, I could do this.

No, probably. I think it's ingrained in me to be intimidated and avoid things forever. Really? It's so normal. I know. I think it's just like. It's normal, but like these moments of like oh I started a fashion yeah well I had I mean I worked with the production company I had so much guidance I think

if anything I'll realize there are people that are willing to help you and I think a lot of times you you feel like oh my gosh I have to do this on my own but being in this like world and talking to different people people are so willing to give advice and help out and like share their sources and who they were heard yeah so few people are listening to take advice i know and so um it's interesting i've figured out that i don't i feel like i have to carry it all on my my shoulders and it's not like that at all like there's so many people who want to help and support. And so if anything, I feel like that's what I've learned. But yeah, I'm just, I don't like controversy.

I don't like anything that intimidates me. I can be very like, I think it's how I was raised. Do you like that about yourself or do you not know i in a in a way i like about myself because i i don't in general don't like even seeing controversy i don't like when people go like politics really just scares me because the way people talk to each other is so mean and hateful instead of just it being a conversation um but i think just how i was raised it was like you know sometimes you just sweep it under the rug and move forward you know i think it's like a i don't know if it's a southern thing or what but it's kind of like um

don't try and my my whole thing is like making sure everyone feels kindness and I never want anyone to feel uncomfortable around me, if that makes sense. So I think my way of doing that is just avoiding confrontation. But really, I kind of wish I could be a little more assertive. Interesting, because when you describe it, I mean, we're obviously very opposite in that regard. Because when you describe it, I mean, we're obviously very opposite in that regard. When you do that, do you feel like spending so much time making sure everyone's okay? Obviously sounds so noble and generous and empathetic. Salt sting.

But yes, it sounds like, are you starving your own personal needs? And like, everyone else is fine, but I am freaking out inside you know like i could only imagine and i feel that way and i still don't do that i don't freak out like i am weirdly level 99 of my life it's so weird like i feel like maybe i should see someone about it because you're so emotionally stable yeah i, I'm just so stable. It feels off. So wait, yesterday. Something feels weird. Yesterday was National Mental Health Day on the internet.

Oh, yeah. Which I found to be ironic, given how much the internet causes mental health problems. You feel like generally you're fine. You don't anxiety, all the things that we talk about mental health. Yeah. You're like, you're almost surprised by like, I'm good.

Yeah. I mean, I think if anything has ever caused any sort of instability in my mind, it is social media. And so I know when I get into that place, because it's not me, I'm like, I need to put my phone down and take a break because this is so dumb that i'm letting this little device so you're good at kind of self-policing yourself in terms of i'm i please others i please

myself nick i just i'm here to get like no But even like, no, policing yourself. Policing. Policing. Oh, policing. I don't have non-CA. Becca, this is a real problem. But like, I sometimes, the things I sometimes don't, I'll have the self-awareness to be like, what you're doing, Nick, is terrible for you.

And I'll be like, I'll still keep doing it. You know, like, I don't know if I just enjoy pain or I'm a sucker for punishment, but I sometimes have a bad habit of actually stopping the action that's causing anxiety. Yeah, I feel like a lot of people do.

But no, I, yeah, it is though. I do have those moments where I'm like, wow, I'm giving so much energy, making sure everyone around me is so happy that I am. Have I done anything for my like, is any of this good for me? Or like, am I doing anything that's like pleasing myself? But then there's like that fine line of being selfish and being selfless. And it I that's really where i get my head i'm like if i do this for me am i being selfish or am i be is this healthy you know i i think our superpowers are

also our weaknesses and i think your superpower is being kind and good and that's why you have such kind and good listeners you know and people love you because of who you are so it's probably why you also struggle then of taking time for yourself but yeah i totally believe superpowers and like what's my superpower and weakness rochelle you've never brought that up that's such an interesting i like that yeah what's your superpower i think maybe your superpower is you are very like focused on your goal which also could be your weakness of you get anxious and you like you said you squeeze things too tight and they die yeah but you are very like

if i'm gonna do this i'm gonna do it right which is great i am you know it's so funny um out of all i mean this is gonna come across like my first comment i ever said to you here we go i'm ending it i'm out of this leather chair it's not so funny i was just that was like my intro but it was an unnecessary intro out of all the people that i know in the bachelor world my friends are the most like nick is so hot can you please set me up with him and i'm like and becca's like really not dean no it's you know it's really hot we i love dean but you know i think people are aware of like his um you know his he's very aware of his emotional attachment issues and commitment issues so i think people are intimidated by that i'm a slow burn but thank you for saying no it's so true

though like and i remember reading charlene's post birthday post about you how like out of all the people she's ever with you like when you walk by it's the most people are like so curious about the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me charlene's i know so nice i'll pull it up i i think for me i i was actually having um this conversation with my friend rachel belson wait your friend i know wait hold on what i went to this event last weekend yeah i see her i like just naturally was like hey i've never met her oh and then as i'm saying hey it's like coming out i'm like we don't know each other like i know her but she does not know me and i was like i'm sorry i was like i just feel like i know you and she's like no i feel the same way and i was like oh wow she's truly the nicest person she was so nice yeah we were having this conversation and i said to her it's sh uh and i i do i feel like sometimes i uh

i i i find that there's very few people in this world that i feel like people really get me i don't feel like you know uh people will call me mysterious and that's not like in a dating situation it kind of feels like a compliment like oh you're mysterious yeah or other people like will react certain ways and that has been beneficial to me in other ways but on the flip side of that coin sometimes i just feel like very few people don't really get me. I don't feel like I connect with people. I told Rachel, like, I think sometimes my brain just works differently than a lot of people.

And there I feel like I have to explain myself. Interesting enough, we were with some of her friends that night and we were having, and it was just a great conversation with people. And I said this to her friend, and her friend was just like, oh, that's really interesting. You remind me of my son that way.

Fast forward like an hour later, she asked me, her friend asked me a question, and I made some comment. And she was offended, and she yelled at me. Her friend was like, stop being a dick. And I'm like, what? I'm not. I'm not. And it was just how I came across.

It was like, I can easily be dismissive without and i was literally explaining i'm like i just have this ability i'm not trying i will say something in a way that people will read and feel intimidated by or whatever i'm not even trying to be i'm usually in my head and literally fast forward 45 minutes later it literally like showed itself yeah anyways Charlene to that point I has always been a friend that I just always could be myself around because I she always got me and even at my worst she could understand those reasonings for it it wasn't in a judgmental way she could say she could point something out that I was doing or doing wrong but it was never in a way that she couldn't process and yeah you didn't trigger her maybe it didn't trigger her right so i do i trigger people yes and oftentimes oftentimes when i trigger

people i don't i'm not trying to trigger people. And then I'm responding to that. And I will get anxiety about like, it'll be exhausting for me. But I did it again, you know. It's funny though, because Charlene is one of my friends too. And she like champions you. Like she loves you.

And she speaks so highly of you. And I just thought that post was so nice. She was very, very sweet um we'll have to we'll have charlie we'll have her on um but yeah it's interesting because i remember when i first had like a conversation with you i was like we don't connect like you know i i'm like he is not interested in talking to me and like i don't know what to talk to him about. Like, I literally was just kind of like, I felt stressed because I couldn't, I didn't feel like the conversation was enjoyable for you. When was that?

I don't know. I'm sweating thinking about it. I know I give that feeling. I know I give that feeling off often. And I don't remember like, and it's not, I don't know. Again, it's not i don't know again it's it's definitely helped me and it's definitely hurt me at the same time have you always been like like is this your personality or has it happened with i know i'm just asking i'm saying like the anxiety of feeling like you have to explain yourself or like my whole life oh okay yeah yeah yeah that's you know when do you that's a good question. Do you have, we sometimes, uh,

as, as people who have been on bachelor nation, uh, I get very defensive about the, Oh my God, TV's changed you, you know, et cetera,

et cetera. I'm, I think my last birthday before Charlene posted something and it was a shorter, but one compliment she said is like, I've, I'm the same person. Um, and I'm sure I've changed in certain aspects and we've grown. But like, do you feel that way in terms of you being the same person before?

Like, yeah, your life's different. You've learned a lot of things. But do you think the show has changed you that much? Or you're experiencing your life being a public figure now that you're designing clothing lines at Macy's and yet perverse as the girl who was working at a chiropractic clinic? Right. I mean, I think that my life has obviously changed. Yeah, your life has changed. It's totally changed.

At your core. Yeah, at my core, i feel like i'm the exact same person other than learning and growing in certain areas that i was maybe closed off to or like had just you know you're taught or you're raised a certain way and then you're kind of you go through this path or move somewhere different and you see other people's points of views and you grow as a person but um the only thing that's really changed is that before the bachelor i never had any sort of like confidence issues and i think with social media and having to like put myself out there and like take photos all the time um i've noticed, I used to post whatever.

I didn't do any editing. I just write whatever the photo was when I took it. It was uploaded. And that's changed. You're like, so you nitpick everything about yourself. I mean, I do. I don't know if everyone does that. I think that is a disease that happens to,

well, I think that's happened to everyone with social media. I think it happens in a more heightened version with people who have any type of social media presence. But I talked about this when Ashley, I was a guest on a live show, is that sure, yeah, you have a following, I have a following, people in Veteran Nation have a following.

But when you pull people, and it was a live show, everyone has the same feeling when it comes to social media. It's all relative. Everyone, when we pulled the audience, had the same reaction to what time of day they post versus the engagement, like if a post performs better than one that doesn't

and then the thought that goes into that. And the entire audience have the literally same reaction that ashley and i have or that you have just described and it's all relative you know because when you first went on christmas season you had what 200 300 400 000 followers whatever is it any different now that you have one point whatever million followers it's the same stress and anxiety but see i don't feel when i just had the following before instagram before i went on the show i didn't i wasn't i just would take a self i'd maybe take three selfies choose one of the three now it's like i'm talking about once you like i'm

talking now once social media has become what it is now that like your, you know, anyone in the street who has a thousand followers, they know what engagement rate means. They know what brand means. They know like. Yeah, I guess you're right. I think social media has like the way we talk about it, whether you have a following or not, it's changed our kind of our perspective on how we value and judge ourselves. Yeah, it's mean.

We're mean to ourselves. We are. We're like, no no you don't look good enough in that you can't post it for people to see it's like not it's not nice there isn't a person yesterday who posted a picture for mental health day who has a social media following and it didn't affect their mental health in a negative way once they posted the picture negative yeah wait what do you mean like if you posted a picture on mental health and you posted a picture of yourself i'm assuming or you didn't whatever

the post was and you thought of a caption and you put some thought into it and then you go out there and then either people like it or comment or they don't like it and there isn't a person who probably didn't get the reaction that they they they might not even admit it, but everyone who posts, I don't care who you are, will go and look to see how it's performing. Yeah. Everyone. And it probably definitely affected their mental health

in a negative way. Or it could be positive. It could have outperformed and you felt good about yourself, but like putting value in that is dangerous. And I mean, I do. I'm as guilty as anyone.

I mean, yeah, we all do. Yeah. I liked seeing Jason posted about it. And I was so surprised because he does look like he has his shit together so well. But I think it was good, ultimately. I think it's great that he did that.

But what I'm saying is, I saw that post. I liked that post. Caitlyn's Jason? Oh, Tartic. Yeah. Tartic. But I don't know. I guarantee you, he looked at the

performance of that post and one way or the other it affected him in mental health he had a thought right oh yeah just guaranteed yeah i mean yeah you can't if he said he didn't then he would be the only one in bachelor nation who it doesn't affect do you know how stressful it is to post like an ad instagram oh like and just can't imagine. And just watching. Yes. You're like, except for the Charmin one. That one killed. That one crushed it.

I was so pleased. But also, I think it's, I get so stressed out for the brain. I'm like. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Do you want your money back? Yeah.

I literally sometimes want to be like, do you just, you want to take half? Let's call it a deal. You probably weren't impressed. Okay, I'm going to sound really dumb right now, but I thought you were a nurse. I swear I thought you were a nurse. I was like, wow, she's really doing it all. Because you're scrubbing in,

because your podcast and you're in scrubs. I'm surprised that I actually knew not only that she wasn't a nurse, but it was because of how much she loves Grey's Anatomy. Yeah. Yeah. So the podcast, honestly, I'm going to record the scrubbing and after this, and Tanya is going to be thrilled to know this.

This is like our dream. Really? To be acknowledged in the medical field. Wow. I bet she's a great nurse. Talk about social media deceiving. There is nobility in certain professions. We did a photo shoot for the podcast logo in our scrubs,

and then we went and had lunch, and the respect that we got in those scrubs was next level. Everyone held the door open for us. It was like you could feel the energy was like, thank you for your services. When I was an accountant and then in sales, what do you do? I'm in sales.

Okay. That was generally the reaction I got. I literally was never of a, oh, really? Tell me more about that. I get that a little bit more with natural habits. I don't get it so much. Like the podcast is interesting when people ask me

because podcast is one of those things that everyone's doing so much so like to say you have a podcast if they don't know of your podcast people are like huh yeah of course you do uh versus like and if people listen to your podcast it might be different but it's still not yeah we're growing you want to hear a good story about podcasts? So we were at the Children's Hospital. They do a prom every year in Orange County. And Tanya and I go, we've been the last three years, I think. And we went down there. And every year they have like celebrities come so the kids can meet them.

And like these proms are like next level. And so two of the actresses from Grey's Anatomy were there and Tanya and I are like we're freaking out and Tony's like we have to say something like we just need to let them know that we have a podcast based on Grey's Anatomy and I was like okay well you lead the way I'm like too you know it's too intimidated and um so she goes up and so then we're talking we introduce ourselves and we're like we have a podcast and then it kind of dawned on me that maybe they thought we were like patients and they're probably like oh these girls do podcasts from like their room or whatever like they had

no idea that we had like you know a people's choice award-winning podcast and um so and sarah drew who played april keppner on the show ended up coming on the podcast and i was like were you just so confused when we bombarded you and she's like i don't even think she remembered us but it was kind of humiliating like we walked away kind of like oh some of those one actress camille camilla she's a huge bachelor fan yeah she's she loves you i feel She's a massive Bachelor fan I met her at the

We should have her on You should The ABC Upfronts Or whatever One of those Networking Events

She posted a photo With you Like in the bathroom Or something Or was that I heart Jingle ball I don't know

But she's a big bachelor fan very nice i just remember seeing i was very jealous so becca we have this game before we send you off called do you know me okay we're big believers in this show that especially in dating situations or um in any situation small questions lead to great conversations oh yeah i agree um And something, you know, even I work on the small talk. So that way, you know, when I'm not talking to someone,

I do that. I'd have this way of feeling and be like, it's not that I'm not interested. I'm sorry for making you feel like I'm not interested in what you have to say. Now we have to mend fences.

So anyways, Rochelle and I are going to try to decide who knows Becca Tilly better. Okay, so how does this work? Well, I'm going to ask you a question. Okay. Actually and I are going to try to decide who who knows Becca Tilly better okay so how does this work well I'm gonna ask you a question okay actually I'm gonna ask a question it's not even gonna be directly to you it's almost gonna sound like we're talking about you okay you're not gonna answer immediately we're gonna guess oh okay and then after each one you will tell us the truth and if there's a follow-up thing you want to share or a relatable story, great. Great. First question.

Has Becca gotten a tattoo in the past, I'll say two years. Does Becca have a tattoo? I know I'm not seeing any from here. I don't think Becca has a tattoo. I think she's got a sensible outline of a flower on her. Small of her back? Yeah, or on her hip bone. Not the small of her back. I'm offended by the small of the back. No a flower on her like all of her back yeah or on like her hip bone not the small of her back i'm offended by the small no like on her hip bone like something i meant i meant like yeah i didn't mean it i didn't mean it i didn't know definitely you're

you definitely wouldn't get a tramp stamp and i'm not judging any sorry anxiety i don't think i don't think Becca has tattoos. I do. I do. Becca has no tattoos. What is the answer? Okay. So this is so embarrassing.

I have two tattoos. Yes. But like, you literally cannot see one of them anymore. Are they black? I got them in very light pink. No, very light pink. Cute.

One was, it looked like a lipstick kiss it was inspired by britney spears yes um and my sister and i got it together and how old are you gone 20 i think nice and then i have a tiny little jesus fish that's literally half an inch and you can barely see it so that's my you want to make a statement but not a big one not too loud statement but not too loud so beckettilia of you i know i want to get a tattoo but i don't want to offend anyone so i'm just so no one can see it's that not just the epitome of my personality and my tattoos

are you still religious yeah i'm so i am definitely religious but i noticed you know sometimes christians can be like the meanest you know like sometimes they're not exactly christ-like which is what a christian is supposed to be so um but yeah i'm definitely still i get scared of like religion because it has such a bad connotation. Also causes so much hate and tension like politics. Shame. But I believe in God. I have a relationship with God. So it's very important in my life.

But it does. It is like one of those things that also causes controversy. But something I like stand up for and believe in. We talk about a lot. It's an ongoing struggle. What? Religion. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. One nothing Rochelle. Yes. up for and believe it we talk about a lot it's a it's an ongoing struggle what religion yeah yeah okay one nothing rochelle yes off to an earlier lead this is rare it is i almost just didn't admit it because they're so glad you did they're so pathetic but uh rochelle chose these questions um they're great questions but i feel more comfortable saying you. Yes. Yeah. They get a little racy. Has Becca ever been walked in while having sex? I'm going to augment this question. Okay. Because I don't want to, you know, anything sexual. Sexual.

Has Becca ever been walked in doing anything? Any sort of hooking up. Any type of hooking up, any type of sexual activity, not necessarily intercourse. What's yours? My gut wants to say no, but I'm going to say yes. I'm going to say yes. I'm going to say she's had an awkward, yeah, an awkward kind of situation while doing, while attempting to hook up.

No, I'm saying the doors are bolted shut. She makes very sure. Yeah, you're probably right. Quiet, safe. I'm regretting my choice, but I'm going to stick with it. What's the answer? I have been.

Oh, yes. I won't elaborate, but I have been. Good job. All right. All right. Has Becca... has but after that it was bolt the doors never again has becca ever given a lap dance of any kind not necessary sexual in nature maybe a playful one i don't know what that would look like but hey maybe she was drunk i get a bachelorette part sure yeah has becca ever given a lap dance i'm gonna say no i'm gonna say yes i mean with a body like that how could you not god roly i think i'm really glad i pointed out that uh rochelle picked these questions um i have not i'm i don't consider myself to have like amazing rhythm.

So to be honest, I'm like maybe when I was drunk, it could have happened. I'm my best dancer when I'm drunk, as we all are. But it's not my go-to move. Okay. Two nothing. No, two one. Two one. Sorry.

Sorry. Sorry. Does Becca use a camera other than her phone? And when I say use, I mean she uses, owns, not she outsources a professional photographer. Right. She owns. I think yes. I think, I feel like you're very skilled in lots of different things. You probably know how to do photography.

Nick? Tough call. Tough call. Phones have great cameras nowadays. They do. I'm going to say yes as well. Okay. And I'm going to say because she owns one of those Polaroid.

She's used a Polaroid. I used to have a camera I use for a lot, but I haven't used it in a while, but it's still in your closet. Actually, my friend

has it, so I really haven't had it. So I really only use my phone. Okay. We pick the same one. We're both like

right and wrong at the same time. It's a wash. Has Becca seen someone naked in the past week? Oh. Week?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Other than herself. Yeah. I assumed. Good for you.

And you? And you, Nick? Oh, yeah, for sure. It's great, too. Is Becca currently carrying more than $20 in cash in their wallet? I know I'm not. I'm going to say no. Yes.

Yes, I am. What's it for? I went to the ATM. You carry cash? I like to have cash for valet and like nice person yeah and tips i mean you have the tips but like with technology more and more i carry less and less cash it's always oh yeah and like every time i pull out cash on the atm for things like valets or tips or things like that i mean it's it's like a it's good and bad i generally lose it

but when i don't i will find like 80 in a pocket yeah like a month later it's a and bad. I generally lose it. But when I don't, I will find like $80 in a pocket like a month later. It's a thrill. What a win. And like, so when I get my nails done, I can only tip and cash. Right.

And they have an ATM there. So I'll always get like, you know, cash out. And it lasts for a while because I don't, I only use it for like tips and valets. That's what it was.

It's for her nails. Do you think cash will ever not exist? Yeah. I love cash. It's fun to have it i know but do you think it'll ever how are they gonna you can't go to a strip club and hit like venmo i just feel like it's some venmo to the one in the pink apple pay actually you probably will but that's the thing and we're almost there but at some point cash will only be used for for what is considered like like syntax kind of thing you know the things that you don't want people to know you do other than that we oh you mean like under the table stuff so that it can't be traced

that that will be the only reason we use cash well then it's never going away yeah it's a lot of shady stuff does that say something about me that i rarely carry cash that i that i'm not trying to very forward thinking that says that it's not less less about me not trying to hide things and more about that i'm not a planner yeah i think so probably true i didn't even think about like your honesty or integrity i was just like he ain't prepared yeah probably true just trying to throw myself a bone but you called me out uh is becca oh that's the same question can becca recite a poem any poem and not mean one you wrote i mean a poem, you know, like The Raven. Rochelle picked this one because she definitely can recite at least five. She's like ready to show us.

She like wanted to show up. My grandpa used to always recite poems. He was a very funny little man. Can you? I'm gonna say no. Yes, she can. Roses are red. Yes. Violets are red. I i guess i wasn't thinking about that first of all i was like i'm dumb i can't do it i guess i'm dumber for not realizing i could if you could recite the raven that would be impressive yeah or like what's the nevermore

i carry your i carry your heart. I carry my heart. It's from a movie. I thought it was famous. Actually, you probably, well, would you? A poem. So like scenes from a movie wouldn't count? Because I feel like you can like quote a lot of movies. I'm not a huge movie quoter, but I know lyrics. Like I know if I hear a song like three times i can i know like oh do you think it's safe

to generalize and say more men are better at movie quoting and more women are better at reciting lines from songs that would be fair i feel like movie quotes were like most guys personalities right in middle growing up that's all they that's all we did. I want to be funny. I'll just quote this funny movie. Growing up, guys would quote movies and I would very poorly was reciting lines but a lot of my women friends would like.

We did not do that. But Caitlin Bristow, I thought she was so cool on Christmas season because she knew all the funny movie quotes. Yes. And Ashley I knows

a bunch of movie quotes too, word by word last question is Becca in the mile high club absolutely not I feel like she's been on a private jet sometime

and it's gone down Becca has been a PJ for sure yeah she's got a BJ on PJ I didn't got a BJ on PJ. I didn't get a BJ. Why are you blowing down there? That is not productive. I don't think

you're supposed to do that. I'm still going to say no. Yes. No. That would have been cool. And the fact that she was so immediately offended by the fact that I said absolutely not only proved to me that she definitely had not. Because it was like, fuck, I know.

Why am I so obvious? I'm not. Are you? Definitely not. Are you? No. I mean, literally unless you're on a private jet, it's really tough. Those bathrooms are not made for two people to do activities.

Right? First of all, yes. Totally true. It smells horrible. It's not sexy. It's not easy. It's a great way to get in some serious trouble. Yeah.

So what is the upside of fucking in a commercial airline? I don't know. So that when someone asks if you're in the Mile High Club, you say yes. That's literally it. Do handjobs count? Like the seat next to you? That count i would count that area have you given a tuggy no no no no no no i have it that counts i have also not done that a tuggy given a tuggy i've definitely not given a tuggy i don't even know. It'd be so stressful of people walking by. I don't know. It would be easier for a guy to put his hands down her pants without it being noticeable. Right.

I've also not done that. I don't think so. The angles, no. The angles, but if you had a blanket, you could do a lot by doing a little. Okay. I'm just saying. It doesn't require as much motion. doing a little okay i'm just saying it doesn't require more as much motion i'm interested though is the mile high club considers uh if it's only like act you know sexual intercourse if we were

talking with people who are part of this yeah we would love but they'd be like fucking no rookie we're such losers not in the club a hand job what are you a fucking amateur i fuck in the club. A handjob? What are you, a fucking amateur? I fuck in the air. That's quotable. That's the title of this podcast. I fuck sky high. Oh, no. I'm still stressed out that I'm in a feud with Miley. Yeah.

You know what? You are. I'm not in a feud. She's going to come after you. She's got a lot of money. Be honest. Oh, my God. Be be honest all of us i mean i'm not she should do whatever she wants but like she's going through some shit i mean this whole like she's right she's like clearly not out of a long mare i mean

of course she is but she's like definitely acting out in a way don't you think i i don't know i feel like she's been she was with liam for so long that she's probably like i haven't even gotten to do that like i haven't even as an adult gotten to have this experience i get that but that's not what i'm talking about i'm talking about she's so obvious about it she's so public about it and that's the part i'm saying because i get it like she could be doing all this and no one would know she could know shit and but i feel like that's more or less her choice although i almost feel like the paparazzi photos came out and then she addressed it was kind of like well people saw us kissing so i don't follow her and so again i don't think that's bad but from what i understand so correct me if i'm wrong

she's been putting some stuff on her social and she's been open about it yeah which again is fine but it seems like as she's it's not she's a smart person i'm assuming so she's doing it for the reaction and we do things when to get reactions comment on i've already said yeah can't have any more articles becca tilly hates smiley who wrote that article i need to dm her and say please stop feuding oh listen sometimes we complain about the things that we can control i guess that's my point and maybe miley can control the things that are frustrating her miley miley does what miley wants and she should and she should hey she's just being wrecking ball and the with the all

American show song party in the USA phenomenal song I fucking love them every time they come on my hips can't not I'm just saying Becca thank you so much for coming for having such a pleasure where can people find you

you can listen to my podcast scrubbing in with Becca Tilly and Tanya rad my Instagram It's such a pleasure. Where can people find you? You can listen to my podcast, scrubbing in with Becca Tilly and Tanya rad, my Instagram at Becca Tilly Twitter, which not as active as I once was. You were pretty active. I've stepped it up a little bit more. You were always very dedicated. And I was always like,

Oh, good for you. And it's my, it's one of my favorite apps. I'm just not as I linger i'm a linger but twitter's beckatilly5 where can people dress like you um macy's.com thank you macy's.com and and then we're in over 400 macy's stores so if they want to go shop can go in store becca is in 400 congratulations that's impressive that's something you should be very proud of thank you So if they want to go shop, you can go in store. Becca is in 400.

Congratulations. That's impressive. That's something you should be very proud of. I'm proud for you. Thank you. I haven't figured out whether it's better to be envious or jealous or whatever. I'm not necessarily both, but I think it's just really neat. Thank you.

Really cool. Thanks so much. That's so nice. Thanks so much for coming, Becca. Always a pleasure to hang and chat with you and i'm glad that we've come such a long way we really have the fact that we had an hour and a half conversation just now and it was like it was pleasant for me i don't know how it was for you but i had a great time i enjoyed it okay great all right if i didn't say i did would you be wondering if i would just walk out being like

he hates me why i hate you no but if you didn't if you didn't answer yeah that's not a dick move that's how i never do that you never do what not i see that yeah i don't not i'm just saying if i was like it was very pleasant for me and you're like I'd be like cool I gotta go launch myself out the window I loved it I hope the people listening loved it too they'll be the ones that let us know you know they will let us know

what they like and what they didn't like we'll have to have you back soon too I love you Miley Cyrus and her fans I love you Miley come at me bro no no all right I think we have to end there we have to go all right Becca thanks so much uh as always guys thanks for listening we love you uh don't forget to rate us five stars on iTunes we're coming close to 10,000 maybe by the time this comes out I really want to get to 10 000 reviews yeah yeah i don't know what are you at right now nine thousand and something come

on people come on do it let's do it uh don't forget to ask sending your questions at ask nick at cast media.com cast with a k for our ask nick episodes on monday if you ever want to come back and answer questions with us yeah well we can do that perfect ideal thanks. Ideal. Thanks for listening. Have a great day. We'll see you on Monday. Bye-bye. Bye.