The Viall Files - E552 Going Deeper with Georgia Hassarati - Lies, Receipts, and NOT Being a Perfect Match

Episode Date: March 9, 2023

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper Edition! Today we are joined by Perfect Match’s Georgia Hassarati to talk about all things Francesca and Dom, behind the scenes drama, and her relationship timeline with Harry. Has she talked to Dom recently? What did Francesca say to her off-camera? Why did Harry say they slept together after their podcast? We get all of the answers. We then have a Texting Office Hours caller who broke up with her friends via group chat, but she’s now regretting her decision. How does she slide back in to make amends months later?  “She apologized to me, saying that she felt like she was bullying me.” Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://www.viallfiles.supportingcast.com If you are interested in running a book club in your city, send an email to: [e-mail]  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Join us for our new LIVE show on Thursdays at 9PM ET/6PM PT on Amp, available in the Apple app store. Android User? Listen here: https://www.onamp.com/ To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [e-mail] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact [e-mail] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Drizly: Drizly is the most convenient way to buy beer, wine and spirits, with delivery to your doorstep in under 60 minutes. Download the Drizly app or go to https://www.Drizly.com Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @georgiahassarati @alison.vandam @liffordthebigreddog

What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vow Files Going Deeper Edition. I'm Nick, the host of the show, joined by the trusty team ali amanda and daddy how's everyone doing bopping bopping wow okay i'm bopping there's a ali's quaking there was an episode of the office we watched last night where pam like every time she like answers the call for michael and she's like you know jan's in line too she always like waits and because he always gets it better the second time the first she's like you know jan's in line too she always like waits and because he always gets it better the second time the first time's like i don't know this is kind

of reminded me of we need like a fake run we need a dress rehearsal yeah boppin anyways we're gonna go with boppin amanda's boppin um we have a great episode wild episode georgia hasarati is with us to well defend herself i think like the thing that struck me about this episode was it was like you know when like you talk through stuff with like a good friend you're like you need to like be understood in this like i think so much of like where georgia is coming from like as you'll see in the episode is like there's just a huge part of the story that i think for her it's like really difficult to see omitted from like the mainstream media narrative and it was like a real like i want to tell you like human to human where i am coming from and like what is going on here from my perspective yeah i feel like it was less

so defend herself and more so just opening up sure i mean i just think she feels attacked by you know things people are saying on the internet things people you know fans and both cast members um and things like that i'm curious what the audience will think when they hear georgia you know my biggest takeaway with this stuff it's just like you know it's it is a reality tv show and i think you know with the pressures of social media and the opportunities that can come from this like i think everyone to a certain degree there's no completely genuine person you know and i georgia came across incredibly honest and genuine i'm not even saying that but i'm just thinking when especially when people are kind of posting things and playing into narratives and and any post that cryptically you know, play like.

Asks for sympathy. It's not an accident. Well, and I even before talking to Georgia, I think one of my biggest criticisms or confusing parts of Dom specifically his online presence is I feel like he I saw a tick tock of him dancing and it was like me every day since perfect match came out. And it was kind of imp like stop bringing it up i'm so unbothered stop involving me in drama and i was like you are you're in it with the rest of them yeah your name is clear and it's very easy to be like i'm not gonna dirty my hands it's like yeah because no one threw mud at you yeah anyways and by the way for anyone asking uh for us to have dom on to give him an opportunity to respond. We have asked Dom to come on. We would love for him to come on. As we stand now, I believe he's declined, which

is fine. He's scared. Not everyone wants to come on the biggest podcast of all time. You know, the world's greatest. Did he want to go on Joe Rogan? You automatically assumed it was me. He made eye contact with me. It was Amanda. We're doing great things uh he literally wasn't looking and you snorted and he looked directly at me and he goes why are you

laughing i will say that my thirst is quenched because of all the juice that yes there's a lot of juice a lot of juice a lot of juice and speaking speaking of juice, before we get into Georgia, can we just talk about Raquel's statement that dropped? You mean Rachel? Yeah. Her name is Rachel. Is it? Turns out her name is Rachel.

Yeah. Apparently Raquel is her stage name, aka her Vanderpump Rules name. What do we think about that? Like if I came on The Bachelor and I called myself Nico? Yeah, if I was like Miranda. Yeah, it's such a weird- It's fine whatever i mean part of me wishes i would have like you know changed my last name before i went

on reality tv and just made life easier for everybody nick parker yeah i don't know if i have like a huge issue with it like i use my mom's name yeah i guess it's fine it's just not it's not helping her out in this moment in a moment where she is being like slammed for she's coming across as uh disingenuous. I don't even... So she just reached a statement, and I'll say this before... I don't even know what she said, but listen, I think what Raquel or Rachel,

whatever the fuck her name is, she did a horrible thing. She was a horrible friend, and she displayed some very low character choices. We all make mistakes. We have all hurt people, some more than others. I mean, not every mistake is the same same and this is a very terrible mistake i will say overall in life

i i judge people far far far more by how they respond to you know situations rather than necessarily the mistakes that they make you know i'm more curious about how people respond to their mistakes than than their mistakes in a lot of cases not always the case like if you kill someone like you know how you respond i'm not necessarily concerned with but normal everyday kind of this type of shit and infidelity is the worst it's truly truly truly the fucking worst but up to this point and i'm unaware of what she says but i've been critical of raquel or rachel the news about the law you know the the lawyer about this like i don't know this facetime or whatever like i know legally she probably has a right like you know california state laws in terms of like you know having conversations record they have some pretty strict laws against and so but i'm i'm honestly like i'm just like if you fucked up take your beating

you know yeah why is she like hiring lawyers and going after like is it really that big of a deal that there's yeah that's besides the point you're ready for some some healthy discourse i think it is a huge fucking deal to have someone record you doing a sex act when you don't know about it it's a sex tape it's like it's not specified but it's like something intimate and so is it out there it is it's something that tom sandoval so apparently oh i didn't know that one of the narratives and i'm sure there's like a lot of different like sir like sir are you so maybe this will be proven wrong but as i understand it ariana found this video on tom's phone that he'd recorded of like a sexy facetime between the two of them what's a sexy facetime mean i believe it's up to

the user to deem what yeah it could be a lot of things because it's like i guess so at best i guess it would just be like yeah this is a fucking sex tape that's not cool yeah like i think it's like i don't know it could be like a kissy like cute it could be dirty let's assume it's not cool. Yeah. Like, I think it's like, I don't know. It could be like a kissy, like cute. It could be dirty. Let's assume it's not a sex tape. Why would he record something kissy and cute to rewatch? Okay. When he goes, I think minimum chongos out.

What? I think at a minimum, the chongos are out. And that's so. What the fuck is that? Titties. Yo titties. Yo yitties. Okay. And regardless, like that is just just it is so fucked up to record someone

when they're not so it's like yes I think like the way it went down with like the lawyers and this is being passed around yes and it's again it's like why the fuck aren't we slamming Tom Sandoval that is that is beyond fucked up behavior this is not like reality oh everyone does some bad stuff that is illegal fucked up behavior. This is not like reality. Oh, everyone does some bad stuff.

Like that is illegal and shitty. is definitely more wrong. Yeah. Because the top, like you could make a strong argument that, you know, listen, Rachel,

Raquel, I can't, I can't, I can't. Raquel, she's really throwing you for a loop. She's an adult woman. She is in charge of her choices.

She might have reasons for her behavior. They're not excuses. That all being said, you know, Tom is a longstanding member of the show. He's older. Raquel is the newbie in the show. Tom has more power in this situation. Tom has more influence. And it wouldn't shock me at all if Tom was manipulating her and

telling her not to say or do anything and making her like and scaring her, you know, like, I don't know, but it wouldn't shock me at all. If Tom had a lot of manipulative actions in this situation that doesn't like let Rachel off the hook, but like he's also the one in a relationship. He's a fucking piece of shit. And and all this whole like lightning bolt fucking necklaces whatever i don't know so quickly before we get into raquel's statement just as a refresher here's what tom put out a few days ago he said hey i fully understand

and deserve your you are anger and disappointment towards me but please leave schwartz my friends and family out of this situation schwartz specifically only found out about this very recently and most definitely did not condone my actions. This was a very personal thing. Also, Schwartz and Sandy's might have my name on it, but there are three other partners and 20 employees who especially rely on the restaurant for income for them and their families. Just like TomTom, I'm a small part of a much bigger thing. Please direct your anger towards me and not them. They did nothing wrong. I'm so sorry that my partners, Greg, Brett, and Schwartz, and our employees have to suffer for my actions. I will be taking a step back and a hiatus

out of respect for my employees and partners. I need some time to address everything else. Sorry for everything. I'm sure it's like he does care about fucking over his employees, but he also probably cares about his own businesses. He cares about now. He didn't care about then.

Yeah, like that's in terms of like he cares like with the putting this statement out should we go to tom this play their bar and see if we can get kicked out yeah should just talk like just talk really loud shit well i'm just talking shit about the toms right now i hate the toms it's not yeah love the toms everything everything i well i don't them personally, but everything I've come to learn about them, I can't stand. Honestly, fuck a Tom. Fuck a Tom. Let's go.

But we should go. Let's bring cash so we can tip our specific waiter very well. For sure. Yes. And then they don't share the profits with Tom and Tom, but let's fricking rage. Yeah. Team outing. Great.

Can't wait. Company lunch. All right. What did Rachel have to say? I want to apologize for my actions and my choices, first and foremost to Ariana and to my friends and fans so invested in our relationships. There is no excuse. I am not a victim.

I must own my actions and I deeply regret hurting Ariana. I'm reflecting on my choices, speaking to a counselor, and I am learning things about myself, such as my patterns of codependency and addiction to being and feeling loved. I have sought emotional validation through intimate connections that are not healthy, without regard for my own well-being, sometimes negatively affecting others and often prioritizing the intimate connection over my friendships. I am taking steps to understand my behavior and make healthier choices. Although I chose to be on a reality show accepting the good and the bad that comes with it,

beyond my own actions, I have been physically assaulted, lost friendships, received death threats, and hate emails in addition to having my privacy violated. I have begun counseling to end my unhealthy behavioral cycle, learn to set stronger emotional boundaries, and learn to protect my mental health. I don't expect sympathy, understanding, or forgiveness. Right now, I must focus on my own health and well-being as I strive to be a better person moving forward. I will prioritize my mental health and learn from my mistakes. 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10. That's great. I hope everything

about that is sincere. for you raquel for taking accountability and starting the process of healing and it sounds like she's seeking some personal help through therapy and i think that's amazing and and hopefully she can learn from it and be a better person for it there were parts of that that i related to of like the oh fuck i've definitely done that too where i've like let an intimate like the addiction cycle of like an intimate relationship like take precedent over like the people who are like consistently there for me and so I just think it's such an informative statement because like I think people can see themselves in like a scaled back version of that and it's a good reminder that like when you don't address your shit like

this is the way it manifests and even though this is like obviously a huge juicy crazy tea story like there's people hurting who need to heal at the center of this. This was a 10 out of 10. Tom's was a four out of 10. Tom's started with, hey. Yer. And I very much doubt that Tom is going to be going to therapy

and working on himself and reflecting on his destructive choices, et cetera, et cetera. So you know what, Raquel, good for you. I was just gonna say, following up on our Bachelor recap, Tom was at my apartment on Saturday. He was. Photos of Tom entering my apartment.

So it makes sense why the producers are in my hallway. Was he there without cameras? Well, there's photos of him walking in. Gotcha. The same night that I saw the producers in the hallway with headsets on. Do you think? So I guess it's probably a matter of minutes of if he was there to film, if he came right after.

It wouldn't shock me at all if Tom tries to be with Raquel. And I really hope for Raquel's sake that she has the strength to say no to him. Assuming Ariana doesn't forgive or take Tom back, I think Tom is a small person with a small sense of self, and I think he needs somebody, and I think he will try to convince Raquel, if Ariana doesn't want to be with him, to be with him. And I hope for her sake she stands up for herself and says no

and sees the toxicity that is the Toms. Yeah. And I'm sorry schwartz uh guilty by association you are who you hang out with fuck a tom it's new merch also you we there's and who knows there's clips going around we have so much more to get into this and obviously we have to get to georgia this is a great time to remind you that tomorrow vile files plus launches at midnight tonight and if you haven't signed up, you're missing out. It's $6.99 a month.

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Georgia, welcome. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here finally we're happy to have you thanks for having me how's your heart um horrible at the moment I mean why everything that has gone on is extremely hard to deal with and I don't want to like dive straight into how I'm feeling I want to first say I shouldn't have approached things the way that I did the day that I posted the screenshots obviously I wasn't able to give the amount of context that I wanted and I came from a place of anger and it's really not in my character to do that I feel like I was just so frustrated seeing the way things were playing out online and hearing people speak about me that actually had no idea about the relationship me

and Dom had or the relationship that I'm currently in and having constant involvement in that. I think it took me to a place that is just so out of character and I acted off emotion and I shouldn't have because I wasn't able to address things the way I want to when I wasn't able to say my piece and the truth of the situation and it's led me here and it's horrible that the weight to speak on this podcast has been so hard for me because I can't go online I can't talk I can't go outside I'm I'm a depressed mess like that is just the truth of the matter and it's so sad because I haven't even been able to give my side of the story and the events that unfolded. And I just really want to be able to do through and you can share your story. What is the most upsetting thing? And when you say people who are talking about you who don't know anything, you're referring to?

Francesca. Francesca. Obviously. I think she's had so much involvement in something that has nothing to do with her. And the things that I could say about her relationship, the things that I could say about her that I haven't, but I can go into detail on. Yes. I just feel like it's so strange to me how involved someone is that has no involvement at all when you break it down. She wasn't there. She doesn't know what happened. What is she saying about you? She's running a narrative that I broke Dom's heart. I left him in a hotel room the day that

I went on this podcast and I, you know, cheated on him. And, you know, I saw it out for a few days. I was never interested in him. It's just the narrative that she's spinning is so hurtful because she wasn't there. She's not a part of our relationship. She has no idea what's gone down. And I have things that will prove like my perspective on that relationship and why it

ended. And it did end and I tried and I'm just like so upset that someone is so involved in my life that has nothing to do with my life. We weren't even friends on the show like we didn't it looked like we were when I entered that environment because I thought she was nice I thought she had my like best interests at heart she was speaking to me prior she reached out to me a few days before we filmed and i thought oh this girl's lovely she told me she was going on the show i'd never met her so i walk in there and i'm like oh francesca's my friend like i thought she was like i'm super naive like i'll take that i'm australian we we love people from the get-go if we get along

with them we're like i love this one i love this. I did say I loved her. I didn't know her. So the first time you met her in person was on the set? On the set. The day I walked in, she's like, George is coming in. And it was like, we'd never met, but we'd spoken days prior. And I really thought, I thought she was lovely. And I thought I was excited to meet her. I'm not going to lie. I was excited to meet her. I thought she was really cool. I looked up to her. She's like very business minded. She knows what she's doing. She's attractive. She's smart. I was excited to meet her. And it's just sad because it didn't turn out the way that I expected. And I saw that unfold and I learned the hard way, but we were not friends. Like we weren't. And it was a really bad experience for me with her. I'm not going to lie.

And many people had that experience savannah's just one of the people that had that experience and it's horrible because we both had good intentions for meeting francesca and it just didn't end that way where do you think things uh went south between the two of you do you think francesca was upset with you for making a move on dom after she left him for damien absolutely not because the day that i picked dom was she told me to do that so she came back from her date with damien and i thought we were friends at this point and i thought she had like my best interests at heart so she sat down with me and she told me I haven't told anyone this yet me and Damien kissed on our date I'm gonna pick Damien

I have a lot of history with him I felt nothing for Dom I have no spark there there's no attraction I was waiting to get Damien in the house he's here now and I'm gonna pick him she goes you need to get away from Chase he's gonna mess you around he's been lying about a few girls in the house he makes them look bad and i think he's gonna mess you over like mess you around and i thought she was coming from a place of like you know she was looking out for me i see now that they had their own beef like they had their own stuff before i even went in that house chase and francesca and carousel like they had their own situation and i think looking at the bigger picture francesca was trying to get chase out of the house and use me to do that so she told me i think you should pick dom i'm not gonna match with dom i'm gonna pick damien

i think you should pick him and i was like that's a little bit weird though because he's so in love with you everyone here can see that and she's like yeah i know but i think it's a safer bet for you than being with chase chase is gonna mess you around and I hadn't spoken to Dom at this point Dom was extremely loyal to Francesca he's a loyal guy and I was like you know what I was comforting him through that afternoon and I saw how upset he was and I thought he genuinely cares he's a genuine person in this experience and he wants to like, you know, he wants to find someone. So I'm going to go and have a conversation with him. I spoke to him and I said, I think you're a really good guy.

I have a little bit of reservation about Chase just for a lot of reasons. Like there was speculation about Chase being in a relationship, being there for the wrong reason. And I said, you're the only other person, Dom, that I would actually want to match with because I think you're a genuine guy and I'm a genuine person as well. And I want to actually do this experience the right way. So would you be interested in matching with me if I wanted that? And he was like, I know we've never got to know each other, but yeah, of course, I'd love to give it a try and I'd love to see where this could go.

And I was like, there's no pressure at all. And that's the best kind of situation for me is like, I don't like things moving too fast. And I said, it actually works for me that you still have feelings for someone else because we can get to know each other and see where this goes, but we like don't have to put pressure on it. And so before I even match with Dom that night, we had that conversation, he'd agreed, we're on the same page. I went and spoke to Francesca again and I said, I'm going to match with Dom. And she goes, okay, sounds good. She's sitting with Damien or whoever. Like she was fine with that.

She didn't care. So I matched with Dom. I was horrified to watch it back and see how she played out that I went behind her back like that and did that. I would never do that. I thought we were friends at that point. I genuinely did. I was like, oh, like, you know, she's told me to do this and I think it's the right choice for me and she wants

me to be with someone that's genuine. I'm going to do it and I told her. So that absolutely had no factor in why she didn't like me. I genuinely think now, because I know more information, there was just a bigger issue with her and me. She just didn't like me. Do you think it was a personal attack on you? She came on this show and described her intentions on the show as attempting to be a likable villain. Yeah.

Which, you know, is interesting. Yeah, it is interesting because that, to me, says that, okay, you were never genuine about the experience anyway. You wanted to go on there and cause drama. When you're a likable villain,

you're still coming across nice to people, but you're still messing with people and causing drama. And certainly it implies that you're you're you're focused on your character rather than the experience. But I mean, listen, I've been in this type of environment before. Not certainly I haven't been on perfect match. But how genuine do you think everyone is? I mean, to me, I think i think everyone's kind of full of shit a little bit right i mean it's a tv show my impression is you all showed up to this show not even knowing what it was well that's not true because we did know i don't know if everyone

knew but i knew exactly what it was they told me it was a dating show they told me that i'd be required to sleep in rooms with the opposite sex and i was fine about that i'd been on tour to handle oh they told you that? Yeah, they told us that. They told us it was a dating show. They told us it was a competition-based dating show, a challenge-based dating show. So when Francesca came on here and said the opposite,

do you think she didn't know or do you think she was lying? I think she might have been lying. Like it's not out of character to try and save face there. It just seems very Francesca in that moment. But we all knew you can't go on a tv show without knowing even with too hot to handle as much as they hid the premise of the show we still knew it was a dating show they can't not tell you it's a dating show you have to be single you have to be willing to talk to people and meet people and go on dates it's a dating show they tell you

that like it's it's obvious how many people on that show were not single, do you think? There was a few that I know of for fact. A few that are under speculation, but the ones that I know of. Let's talk about the facts. Okay. I've mentioned Chase before. That seems pretty obvious. He was.

Yeah, whatever. But that's their own thing. Maybe they had an agreement with that. I don't know. Francesca definitely was. That's their own thing. Maybe they had an agreement with that. I don't know.

Francesca definitely was. And it's funny that she has tried to pull so much distraction to other people's relationship to cover the fact that she was. How do you know that she was? I've seen screenshots of her celebrating her, from other cast members, her celebrating her one-year anniversary with Jesse three months after we filmed in, like, June. We finished filming in March. March, April, May, June june three months how are you celebrating a one year anniversary three months after a dating show that you were single on makes absolutely no sense i've seen them seen the videos but they obviously had something agreement agreement wise there as well and she obviously saw it as a good opportunity to be a likable villain and go on there and cause drama that's obviously why the likable villain thing was even a factor in her mind she wasn't there to find

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Good job. Do you think she's just making up all this information, or do you think she's getting it from Dom? The information about me and his breakup? Yeah, whatever she's saying about your relationship with Dom and the accusations she's making towards you and the relationship with Dom and how like kind of suggesting that you played him and things like that. like that so i think because she's she knows what kind of guy dom is and he's always up until recently been the kind of guy that will stand out and be like unbothered and not take a side and things so i think when she's friendshiped up with him after the show and by the way they hated each other after filming he couldn't stand he wouldn't look at her from what she did to him on the show

so when she's pulled him back in the premiere night where we're all hanging out. She got Jesse to like soften the blow and got close to Dom and filming them both and got them close. And she started a friendship with Dom. I think she got little bits of the story and felt free to run it on all platforms because she knew that Dom wouldn't stand up and clarify the story. And she was comfortable with the fact that they were friends that he wouldn't intervene so I think without taking a stand unfortunately Dom did take a stand and that's why I lashed out because you let the one person that messed with me and you the whole time

and really didn't have any respect for me or you manipulate you again after the show and I was so disappointed like came from a place of disappointment how I lashed out i shouldn't have done it but i was sad and they're not even friends now she got exactly what she wanted they're not friends it was a few days she got what she needed she said what she needed to say from dom and they're not friends now have you spoken to dom recently regarding all this drama to kind of clear the air between the two of you? No, because unfortunately, I've just, I reached out a few times and I didn't get a response. And I feel like it was too far gone, too long of a wait as well. And now that things have really hit the fan, I just don't feel like me reaching out is going to do anything.

I just don't feel like me reaching out is going to do anything. I do, however, know that he genuinely doesn't feel like the things he's posting or the things he's saying are true. I know he knows who I am as a person. And I know he said recently in interviews with Netflix how he loves how authentic I am and caring and genuine. Like, you don't say these things about someone you actually think is capable. Do we have a clip of that? I do. Okay. Go ahead and play it.

I'm prepared. You got it. So I've got to ask you, man, what were your favorite qualities in Georgia? What drew you to Georgia? I think immediately for me it's just authenticity. I think the moment that we matched and we were up the entire night talking and talking about personal lives and she always stayed true to who she was she was genuine loyalty trust communication and you know obviously she's an absolutely gorgeous human inside and absolutely stunning so

when did you guys film that so that was filmed a few weeks ago at um the netflix headquarters for a few weeks ago a few weeks ago it was february february the 9th or the 10th we were all there i saw him it was normal to my face there was no issue and i'd seen him two nights prior that's when we hugged and we spoke and everything was all good so i don't understand why now he's choosing to run with you know this clip which i know it looks bad harry sitting there on that podcast and saying he's posted it everywhere it's actually a highlight reel on his instagram right now it's a part of that yeah because he's running with this narrative that he actually thinks that the day that i went and met harry on his podcast was the day that me and harry

had sex and yeah harry said that so i can see why he's harry said what harry did say like the day that me and Harry had sex. And yeah, Harry said that. So I can see why he's- Harry said what? Harry did say, like, the day I met Georgia, we had sex after the podcast or something. It was like a passing comment months later, months into a relationship me and Harry had formed. Like, it was just, he's cheeky. He's a little bit whatever. Like, he never would have thought anyone's going to care. I don't know Harry that well,

but he seems to speak out of turn easily. Yeah, like harry said anything in your defense like has he come out and said hey i misspoke or no i don't want him to get involved it's really not his place and honestly we've kept it involved i know you could say that but we've kept our relationship offline and private as much as we can for the past few months and like i don't expect him to speak out on this like i know what happened that day and we did not sleep together. Yeah, we filmed a podcast. We got along great. I felt like I was in a happy place with someone for like the first time in a while.

And I was like, he's really lovely. Like, did we sleep together the day that we met? Absolutely not. It's a, it's a comment he made on a podcast months later that he never thought anyone would care about. Like, it was like, oh, yeah, like, I don't know. Like, it's just it's just a comment. Honestly, at the end of the day.

In the interview with Harry, the conversation was about, like, how early into a relationship do you sleep with a person? I believe it was Hannah Burner was the one posing the question. And she was saying, you know, how early did you enjoy to do it? And he said, podcast day. And she was saying you know how early did you and georgia do it and he said podcast day and she was like i agree with that like you have to do it early to see if the sex works or not and he's like oh yeah we did it that podcast day yeah and i think that it was in a way to just be like you know it's fine to jump into things straight away like that was no i oh the podcast day we were still we're still talking yes when, yes. When me and Harry pursued any kind of romantic relationship, I'd ended everything with Dom.

And the relationship me and Dom had prior to me going on that podcast, it was going to end. It was not in a good place. And I have conversations with my best friend. Let's talk timeline since everyone loves a timeline. I love a good timeline here we go yeah that's from a previous interview yeah classic good timeline everyone loves a timeline all right so when did you guys film perfect match so we filmed it in february i don't know the start

date but it ended in i think 20 something of march we all flew home. Okay. You and Dom were together. You guys won the show and you guys were, you left the show in a relationship. No. So that's what no one gets to see is the night he asked me to be his girlfriend was the night we actually ended it. Walk me through that. So it was a very chaotic day, but basically that whole day, um, I had a really weird gut feeling that another girl in the house had feelings towards Dom. Who's that? This is Inez.

Okay. She's lovely. We were really close at this point. And I kept questioning because they were so close. Honestly, looking back, they were closer than me and him and they had way more in common than me and him. Question. Sorry for interrupting the timeline.

How long did you guys film for? A few weeks. I knew Dom total from filming for two weeks, I think. Okay. Yeah. I know. It's so crazy that it's such an intense thing, but it's like two weeks.

Good reminder for people. I mean, I understand in these worlds, things can get real tense, and things can feel like forever, even though they're only a couple weeks. He asked me to be his girlfriend. I knew him a week. How serious can anyone really be

when half the time dom was in love with francesca that's what i like i mean it's just like even though i said yes in that moment like that was a huge thing for me i was like hold on he actually denied saying he loved her i didn't know about that and i asked him and he said no he told me he didn't say that dom told you he never told francesca he loved yes so when i asked him that they um that was like a major point of this yeah the show so i thought i thought she was lying and that's actually one thing that she was telling the truth on yeah i've got to give credit where it's due she was telling the truth about that hey dom said he loved me dom's like i don't say that

yeah dom was like oh i don't i don't know why like she's saying that like I didn't say that I said I have a lot of feelings for her and like literally played the whole thing down he said the clear words I watched the show back and I was like no way he told me that didn't happen but anyway he's asked me to be his girlfriend on the show a week later a week after that love you situation a week later and you know what he was such a great guy and in that moment I was like you know what this is too fast I know but he's so sweet and I didn't want to hurt his feelings and I also thought like you know this could have potential of going somewhere I said yes I was proved moments later that was the wrong thing to do and it was basically because a girl that he had a strong connection with, Inez, told him moments before

he asked me to be his girlfriend that she loved him. And I'd been questioning that relationship for days. And I've been saying to Dom, is there anything going on? I asked Inez that morning and she was like, no, no, like there's nothing going on with me and Dom. We're just friends. You know, I promised you like I would never go behind your back like that. You're my friend. Dom's my friend. He's like a brother to me. That night, she confesses her love for him. And Dom knows that's something that I was so concerned about. And instead of telling me, he walks from that conversation with Inez, walked over to me and asked me to be his girlfriend. And moments later, Chloe's come running up to us. It was the most chaotic scene ever. I don't know why they didn't put it in in the natural way, but I guess we won the show,

so they wanted it to look like we stayed together. Makes sense. But Chloe comes running over and she's like, you will not believe what just happened. Inez told Dom that she loves him. And she was so annoyed because I was with Chloe when I asked Inez if she had feelings for Dom that day and Inez said no. So Chloe was like angry. She's like, I can't believe she didn't tell us and she's gone and told him.

And I've turned to Dom and I was like, hey, why didn't you tell me that? We don't know enough about each other, obviously, because I've been questioning your relationship and you didn't even feel like the need to bring that up. And Inez is one of my close friends. Like, why would you keep that from me? So we got in a huge argument. He said, I didn't think it was important.

I didn't think I should tell you. And I was like, well, if you knew enough about me, honestly, you'd know that I'd want to know that. Yeah. Well, I asked about their relationship days prior. I was questioning it for days. Well, I mean, it's not necessarily Dom's fault. It's not, but I wish she told me.

That she said this to him but it's weird for him to lie about it it's just weird for him to not tell me and then ask me to be his girlfriend i was just like okay we definitely don't know enough about each other because if you really knew me you'd know that i'd want to know that and we didn't sleep in the same room that night we went upstairs together we fought for a while i was really upset and I was like this is too soon we should not have taken this step we ended it that night like what were you guys we fought about the whole situation like we fought about um just the fact that he kept that from me and then I knew that there was something going on and I was trusting my gut with the situation and I knew that Inez

had feelings and he knew how upset I was and how much I questioned that and just not telling me that. I just felt like it was really annoying because she was one of my closest friends and he knew how much I worried about that and he didn't say anything. So how did that fight end and how did you guys leave the show? and slept by choice downstairs on the couch. Then we went the next day, we had two days off because it hits the weekend and we don't film on Saturday, Sunday. So we'd go away to a hotel and the next scene you see is us back together and I'm in blue like gym wear and we've smoothed everything out. We had an amazing conversation and I sat with him and I said, look, I'm obviously not mad at you for what happened. I'm just upset that you didn't tell me and it just proves to me that we were taking this relationship too fast we don't know enough about each other we need to slow it down we need to pull it back i still want to get to know you but we don't need to rush it like

there's no rush on things is this filmed or is this a conversation it was all filmed and then it's not on the show it's just not on the show unfortunately but that's why it goes from they they've cut it so it looks like we're happy in a relationship and then it's just kept going but it actually didn't go that way at all we we didn't date for longer than that night it ended that night so it's unfortunate that it looks that way but but you didn't agree to like keep going each other like because like what's that's kind of a gray area right it's just like the whole like well you know we're dating but we're not boyfriend and girlfriend and then like so where we're what were the boundaries and we talk about boundaries and expectations

a lot on this show so what were the expectations between the two of you and what boundaries if any did you agree to in terms of are we only focusing on each other are we just kind of getting to know each other but we're not necessarily exclusive like what did you have conversations around those types of topics so i would have never had like a concern with him getting to know someone i just wanted the honesty in that situation but we were very much only seeing each other and we'd made that clear to each other yeah but what about after the show at this point i'm talking like you guys leave the show yeah you guys agree to get to know each other a little bit more you're like hey we need to slow things down

but now that you guys left the show when like give me like a date what you guys filmed end of march end of march and so you guys leave the show what is the expectation from your point of view that you two had with one another so that we wanted to keep seeing where it would go and we both on the same page about that we wanted to see what it would be like outside of that environment. And we were both excited about that. So I obviously had to go back to the UK where I was before filming. And he went back to Canada. And in that time, it was really difficult for me post-show.

I'm not going to lie. And was there an understanding or an agreement between the two of you? To keep seeing each other? Yeah. But exclusively or just to keep getting to know each other? We just wanted to keep getting to know each other. So there was no conversations around, as far as you're concerned, Dom could have gone back on the abs and had a date with anyone and you would have been fine with that?

Well, I don't know. I don't think either of us would have been fine with that because we were both wanting to get to know each other further. And I think without saying it, that's what we knew. But it wasn't sad. No. Okay. We were just both on the same page with it.

Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. So you're in the UK, he's in Canada. Yeah. So I went back and a few days into being back in the UK, I was at my lowest point because something really horrible happened that I'm not going to go into details for because I haven't shared that. However, I knew that I wanted to be around Dom. I was like, okay, I want to be around the one person that brings me comfort. And he was the closest person that I was around for a while at that point. So we agreed we wanted to meet up.

We agreed to meet in the US. I flew from the UK to the US he flew from Canada to the US we spent time in Newport Beach and it's just so unfortunate because we both wanted it to go well and it just didn't go the way we planned and it went and and this what's the timeline where when what's the date of this meetup so I've got um I don't have the exact day of when we flew out I could probably find the flights on that, but I have conversations that are a few days into our hangout around 9th of April. Okay. But early April. Yeah. Okay. So we'd been in contact since show and then we've met up early April. So it's like two weeks. A couple of weeks after a film. And we kept in

constant contact. So texting, you texting your facetiming your chat yeah all day okay so and how are you feeling about dom at this point so i didn't know enough about him to be super sure on where things were heading that's completely honest but it's expected when you're in that environment you don't know enough about anyone you could be getting to know someone that's completely different on the outside world. So as much as I liked what we had going on, I wanted to see it outside to see if it was going to work. That's why we met up and we were both on the same page for that. And when we met up, it's just so unfortunate because it didn't go that way. And we were both not happy the whole amount of time that we spent together and things were coming to an end why

why were you unhappy what was going on i think the best way to articulate it is to show you the text that i have with my best friend izzy who was on the show with me and i was really relying on her and reaching out to her and giving her my raw feelings and emotions on the time i spent with dom but i just think the spaces we were in was so difficult I was in a high intensity work there was a lot going on for me post show with my previous show only just airing a few months prior and me coming out to all this work I had to catch up on and him his show hadn't been out yet um it was months off being out and he was in a very easy open period of his life where he had all the time in the world so yeah the first show that you were on it was too hot to handle three or four yeah

three three that aired when did that air it aired three weeks before we started filming perfect match gotcha so they take your phone on perfect match and i couldn't even negotiate anything couldn't talk to my management do nothing for a month you're going from zero to 100 in terms of nobody to kind of, you know, instant kind of public notoriety and things like that. That's a whole wild new experience. Yep. And while you were dealing with that, then you started filming Perfect Match and then you get off the show

and so you're just kind of. I'm all over the place. Yeah, that makes sense. It was such a whirlwind of things happening at such a rapid speed and I was not coping with it in the best way. I hadn't been home in months. I hadn't seen my family in months. So like emotionally and mentally, you're all over the map.

I was all over the map. But the one person I wanted to be around and I knew that I did was Dom. And we flew out to the US, spent that time together. And it just was going bad. I felt like he was mad at me i think looking back because things weren't moving at the kind of pace that he wanted to you can see on the show that he's a fast-paced person yeah and he tried to take the step of boyfriend and girlfriend and it didn't work and then outside the show i think he really wanted to deep dive back into that and i knew nothing about him

i was like you know what i have a few things that I'm concerned about from the way things play out with you and Inez, with you and Francesca and with everything. I want to get to know you first. So I think he wanted things to move faster and I wasn't ready. And there was just so much like animosity towards me. How old is Dom? 30, it says. On the show, he just comes across as, you know, a he's a beautiful crier and i mean i mean we love a man who can express his emotions and yeah certainly it's uh i'm all for that there's a lot

of sympathy that goes towards that but yeah i mean he seems to be uh reckless almost with his his words of affirmation yeah uh under the premise of vulnerability and it feels good. And I'm glad he is able to express himself, but he does seem to move rather fast for a 30-year-old man. You would think he would be more kind of 16, 17-year-old boy energy. I've seen that and I found that endearing because I was like, he wears his heart on his sleeve. But the more that I got to know about it, I was like, okay, this is a little bit alarming because how do you fall in love with two people in the same show?

And it was filmed in a matter of weeks. Like that is a little bit questionable to me. And I did have that question over my head when we left. I was like, you felt so deep for her and now you're feeling so deep for me and how fast things want to move. I'm not that kind of person. Yeah. So like you were, it's almost like, I don't want to move i'm not that kind of person yeah so like you were

it's almost like i don't want to put words in your mouth but you were open to getting an odom yeah you kind of almost willing to give him a pass when it came to the francesca situation because like hey it's an intense environment where feelings are elevated and it's the expectation is to move quickly but when you saw that type of energy outside of the show with you and his persistence to move things rather quickly that made you uncomfortable it did but i also was like you know what i'm gonna give it my best and i'm gonna give him the time because i want to see it through but i think he was just so uncomfortable he was so annoyed with how they weren't moving at his pace it wasn't moving at the pace he would have liked I think he he questioned

things a few times in the small amount of time we hung out he kept asking me where is this going to go and where are we going to go with this and he was putting pressure on me to take that step and I was like Dom like there's no rush like there's no rush and i think because of that and me saying i'm not in a rush the following uh messages with izzy express how things went and i think he had a lot of animosity towards me and he shut down what are these messages um i can read them or you can read them but it's basically good it's just you want someone to read them with you we have one of the ladies you You like? Dramatic reading. All right.

In this reading, who's who? Georgia, are you good? Let's Georgia be Georgia. Georgia should play her herself. So the messages in white are from me. And this is a conversation between you and who? My best friend Izzy on the show. And I was-

Izzy was on. She was on the show. And she was on To What To Handle with me. I tell her everything. And I'm so open and honest. So it's some of these things you know it's like it's just my raw emotion and i'm not accusing anyone of anything i want to preface this before i say i'm not trying to paint anyone in a bad light i'm just trying to give everyone context of

where my head was at when i was hanging out with him and the fact that i actually put time in to try so that's all I care about. And what are the dates of these text messages? They're all in April 9th, 10th, 11th. But the thing is, this is sent from Izzy's end and she's in the UK. So it's a day forward or whatever. But my name's at the top. It's got the date on it.

It's just the time's a little, it's not the US time. But I can read them out. So I'll start with this. All right, dramatic reading. Ready ready i have a lot of work going on i'm busy i'm so respectful when i need to do something business wise but he like sulks if i have to and gets all quiet and i just feel like i can't win because i've come here to see him and i've made the time but i also have so much going on so like maybe i shouldn't have met up with him at all because I low-key feel like he's not satisfied with it anyway that's the first time that I opened up to Izzy about how I felt this is the next day Izzy I'm so done I'd been there a few days already by the way Izzy

I'm so done he's so sulky and just weird it like he's in some weird funk and annoyed about something he's been off for the past day but won't tell me why and if i ask him he gets angry and says he hates when people ask him what's wrong but he's at the point now where i ask him something and he doesn't even answer me he just ignores me so it's like i'm talking to a wall what the bloody hell that's what that's what that's what he said give me an accent you don't have to read hers out if you don't want because i don't want to like i don't i don't i tried not to involve izzy in this so like you don't need to put her responses in. You don't have to read hers out if you don't want, because I don't want to like, I don't, I tried not to involve Izzy in this. So like,

you don't need to put her responses in if you don't want, but I'm just happy to share my end. I don't want to involve her. We want the conversation. If there's context. I can if you want, but. She's, I mean,

she's just being a friend to you. She is, but it's also like, I don't want to make her situation uncomfortable with anyone. Like it's not her thing, but I was just venting. So the next day i'm talking about our experience day before at disneyland we spent all day you and dan went to disneyland

yep we spent nothing like revitalizing a love by going to disney if mickey can't do it no one can we spent all day at disneyland yesterday we lined up two and a half hours per ride we got there at 8 a.m. It was so overwhelming, like thousands of people. And I'm not feeling the best. Like I haven't had a day to myself since the show. And I did that for him to make him happy. And when it hit 7 p.m. and we'd been there for 11 hours, I was so ready to leave.

I was exhausted. And he was so annoyed. He wanted to stay till 9 p.m. And literally acted like a child about it. And I said, I've got to be up early tomorrow. I'm so tired and i'm ready to leave i had the podcast tomorrow so i had to be up super early for that because we were in newport beach this podcast that you and harry yeah yeah and he was just shitty about it we got back to the hotel and he was weird and moody i can't please him like nothing i do is good enough and i'm always in a good mood and trying to make him happy and be thoughtful.

Then I'm talking about the plans I had to go on the podcast. I'm so over it. Like I'm saying how over I am of the situation. I'm going on Harry's podcast today and I told him I was the day I got here. It's something Harry had planned with me so long ago, like before we filmed Perfect Match and everything. And now that I have the opportunity to do it i'm doing it and he was fine about it and then i asked him today what his plans are while i'm gone and guess who he's hanging out with stop who and there's no the dramatics is killing me and i go how rude is that like am i overreacting or is that rude i felt like it was so inappropriate to even say to me like the one day you can't hang out i'm gonna hang out with the one girl on the show that confessed her love for me i just thought that was so strange given how moody and emotional he was being and how uncomfortable

it was to be around him it's like do you think that was a revenge hang yes and i said that in the next thing actually it's crazy you said that do you think um he had any reason to be like kind of suspicious or feel weird about you and Harry before the podcast interview? What was the relationship of you and Harry at this point? Are you guys friends? No. We'd spoken on social media about doing the podcast. You didn't really know each other.

I'd never met him. Oh, okay. I'd never met him. And to be honest, I'd spoken about Harry. And I'd said, oh, he's so classic Australian guy. And I'm not into Australian men. I've never been into them. I've always said that on everything.

I'm like, I want a foreign man. I want someone different. Like Australian men aren't it to me. I did not have any idea going into that podcast that I would like think he was a cool guy. Like we didn't know each other. We knew nothing about each other. So if he had any reservations about me going on that podcast, that was his own thing. But there was nothing there to be weird

about and yes we obviously ended up dating me and harry together and i love him very much but did that ever was that ever an intention that day absolutely not so i keep going with these texts with the nez and i go we were going to hang out with her together at some point and i thought even that would be awkward because she's literally in love with him and now they're just hanging out all day on their own and it's the way he said it as well like he made a point of saying she's got a present for me so I'm going to see her and hang out with her literally though it sounds stupid but he made a point of saying it and I know it was a dig that's so odd yeah and then the next one is I'm just clarifying that it's even worse that it's been super awkward and now he's planned a whole day with anez it's like he's trying to be a dick obviously i'm

talking to my best friend is the term we use but i felt like it was a dicky move i felt like okay you annoyed at me for going on a podcast i told you about so you're gonna hang out with the one person that i had concerns about on the show that confess their love for you and hold on it's not a weird thing for me to sit and have concern about that because Dom moves fast what's to say he goes on a date or hangs out with Inez that's not a date and they're just friends and then he comes back and he's in love like I'm sorry but it's not out of character for Dom he he does move quickly and I had concerns about that. I mean, if nothing else, I mean, it just sounds like not an amazing relationship. It just wasn't working. And I tried to communicate. I tried to ask him what's wrong and he was stonewalling

me. I wouldn't want anyone that I care about to be in a situation where they felt like they were giving their all and it wasn't being reciprocated. Dom seems like kind of just a moody guy he's a he's a little bit sensitive and a little bit moody and you know what and we love it we love a sensitive king but like i just feel like you need to communicate your feelings when someone's actively trying to know what's wrong if there's something wrong say it you're 30 do you think dom's playing the victim i think he comes up like I've seen some of his social media posts kind of playing into the heartbreak and how he just wanted to find love. And like, you know, people who watch this show, as I tell everyone who goes on The Bachelor, who is afraid of being embarrassed and getting their heart broken.

And I tell them, you should be so lucky to be heartbroken on this show. Because no one ever looks better than when they be heartbroken on this show because no one ever looks better than when they get heartbroken on these shows. If you look like you've been victimized by someone else rejecting you on the show, it comes with great fanfare and support from the audience. Do you think Dom is aware of that and played into that? I think looking back on how he reacted to francesca

ending a relationship that they'd had for a few days i think i watched that and i thought it was extremely strange i just i the way he was even crying but making jokes and addressing the camera i just felt like it was like being played up to another level completely and looking back on that i'm like okay maybe that wasn't the most genuine thing maybe it was that kind of move like i've been done over and i want everyone to know it and feel bad for me because i want everyone's sympathy i think that was the angle yeah i mean it's like it's it's a little bit of like there's truth in it but like people know how to lean in i think it was lent into definitely because if you're that upset, I've been that upset before. The last thing you want is a camera in your face. You're like, don't look at me.

Get out of my face. I want to cry in peace. I'm so emotional. You don't want every angle of that to be captured with a glass in your hand and making jokes and keep crying with tears strealing down your face. It just didn't seem like, I watched it and I was like, whoa. I just thought it was a little bit strange so he hangs out with an as no so he didn't end up hanging out with her that day but i left that day thinking that was the plan so i'd gone away from that i expressed how uncomfortable i was why didn't he hang out with her i don't know well i expressed how uncomfortable i was and i think to a degree that tells me that he said it to hurt you yes Yes. Totally. So he ended up, that's how I felt as well.

Do we even know if he actually had plans? Well, he ended up hanging out with her and a few other cast members later that night. And I was still annoyed about that, I'm not going to lie, because it was the one night I couldn't go. And I was like, why could you not have waited till the night that I could be there? Because I would have felt more comfortable. And I feel like he would have not have liked, And I said that in these messages, it keeps going. I say, I would never have hung out with Mitchell on my own without him. Like Mitchell didn't even say he loved me. I go, he just said he was interested in me, but out of respect, I would never put myself in a situation where I hung out with him

on my own. It's just rude to Dom. Do you know what I mean? And then I said, he showed his true colors anyway. It's not the kind of person I said, he showed his true colors anyway. It's not the kind of person I would want to be with long-term. Honestly, I've had the worst time. I'm so glad to be getting away today. That was how I felt before I even went on that podcast and before I met Harry. This is another bit of a message as well about me expressing my feelings. He's exactly like my ex in the way that they just don't communicate what's wrong and they just sulk and you stress and try to figure it out. And then they get mad at you for caring. It's emotional abuse. It's draining. And I felt in that point like it was that because I am someone that relies on communication and I get extreme amounts of anxiety if someone stonewalls me. And I said that and it still kept going. And I felt like he wanted

me to feel stressed. he wanted me to feel stressed he wanted me to feel anxious so that I could cater to him so he could get more attention and it just wasn't working for me I don't want to be in a relationship like that I'm an adult I want to be with someone who can communicate and who's mature and I would want anyone to have that I mean whether it was intentional on Dom's part or just a of a toxic trend that he, you know, a habit or, you know, behavior that an unresolved kind of immaturity that he does in relationships. I think it's not like a, I don't think he did it on purpose. I think it comes from a place of hurt. I think there must have been a time in his life where something's happened that he felt extremely like rejected or hurt from and now yeah he needs

a lot of um validation and someone to constantly give him that attention and reassurance and i can't do that for like yeah i mean it would make sense you know he's he likes you you're saying things like let's take it slow he probably hears that as rejection he's like oh you don't want me he withdraws and then when you're withdrawing and someone's not like and he doesn't really

you know but let's hang out and then it's just like I'm gonna pull away and act like I don't care because he wants you to do you know it's a cater

and it's like chase he wants you to do that and it just becomes this kind of very cat and mouse game of like it's just immaturity and it's like it's not for me we all know this story you know like this is a very common kind of very cat and mouse game of like it's just immaturity and it's like it's yeah we've all

we all know this story you know like this is a very common kind of dating pattern between two people but not necessarily one that is appealing yeah and it's also like i think when you build up communication infrastructure with someone like during a relationship you then learn each other's like you can kind of learn each other's triggers and really like get ahead of it versus like in a situation where you haven't really had much time in the real world to organically get to know one another trying to mind read is really challenging yeah I tried to communicate my feelings and I just felt like I wasn't being heard and when I feel like I'm not being heard I get as well. So like it just wasn't a good situation and we both were not happy and it was coming to an end and it ended the day after I did the podcast and that was

nothing to do with Harry as much as I had a great day that day meeting him and he was so lovely and he took my mind off such a shitty situation for me. It had nothing to do with him. I spoke with my management that night when I went to dinner and I told them exactly how I felt. And I opened up and I said, hey, I don't know what to do. I'm unhappy, but this guy's flown all the way out to see me. We have this amount of days to spend together. I feel like such a horrible person if I end it, but I'm not happy. And they were like, Georgia, your whole life isn't this situation. If you're not happy, this is supposed to be a really good time of your life. End it, cut it off, end it.

You can always go back to it later and see if there's something there over time. But right now you're not happy, end it. And that's what I did. I ended it the next day in the hotel room. After the podcast? So after the podcast, I went home that night. Things were extremely awkward between us.

How much time did you spend with Harry while filming the podcast? Well, probably a few hours. Did you and Harry even hang out after the podcast? Yeah, we did. But in the company of his friends and a stylist, we made a few teaser TikToks for the podcast. But you were never alone. Never alone that day.

There was not a moment that me and him were just on our own. And it sucks that a comment that he said has had that kind of impact but he's also a long way for harry just to like well i don't expect him to and i'm not putting him in that situation but i would if i were you i'd expect him to well that's just i i know harry's hard i know that that was never meant that way and you know what we ended up together. We ended up dating down the track. He didn't think people would care about the date and the timestamp on that. And he said a stupid thing. He's a guy.

He's also got a very, you know, his hookup culture was his image greatly when we first met. This podcast was also months into our relationship. He didn't think I would care or anyone would care what he said. And he said it a few times. He's also said I have IBS. And I don't have IBS. People have messaged me for months. I've had people message me going, I'm so glad to see someone that I idolize going through the same thing as me. And I'm like, that's so sweet, but babe, I don't have IBS. And me and Harry have

laughed about that so many times. And it's like, I know Harry. I know his humor. I know he's a little bit cheeky, says things. He never meant for it to have that great of an impact. And it's not true. We didn't sleep together that day. And it's sad. It's unfortunate that people think that of me. Yeah, these Netflix shows are a little confusing because they get embargoed for so long.

Like you guys film these shows and they get shelved for anywhere from like a few months to a whole year, you know? And then meanwhile, you guys are like living your life all while trying to like, you know. It's also been a year. Not giving anything away from the show. It's very, very complicated. It's complicated. And I think the worst thing is that people, one thought we're in this relationship and it was so rosy and whatever. And it's recent, but it's literally been over a year.

Like life moves on. I'm happy now. I'm in love. I wish nothing but happiness for Dom. And I hope he has the feeling that I have with Harry with someone else one day. And we were not the perfect match. And it's horrible. It's sad.

It makes me sad. Like I never wanted him to think bad things of me. I never wanted anyone to think that I didn't try I tried I put my all into that relationship it didn't work like and I can't like I can't feel bad about that life goes on I met someone who make makes me happy and we spent more time together and we developed a relationship it didn't work like but come on life goes on like if you could say something obviously you've been experiencing a lot of hate it's clearly taken its toll on you if you could say like one thing to all of these people who are probably messaging you and dming you and leaving hate comments what do you think that would be i think like you never know how someone is taking a situation and you never know like

the full side of it. You aren't there. You don't know what happens. And trust me, I know I'm knee deep in the Hayley Selena drama right now. I'm like, she did that. She did this. She did what? It's so easy to see something and take such a stance on something that you actually know

nothing about and sending. I see the messages like people think that I don't those messages are probably going to haunt me for the rest of my life that people think these horrible things about me and think that I'm someone that is so far from true and it's it's taken a toll on me that I don't think anyone can imagine like but I don't blame them I I know why they're saying that and they coming from a place of protecting someone they think was done wrong and I see that but there's two sides to every story and there's also okay there's my side there's his side and there's somewhere in the

middle that people will find truth in and I'm not even saying his isn't justified he's allowed to feel that way I don't want anyone to hate him from this either. That's so important. I don't want anyone to drive him hate, Francesca hate, no one hate. I'm not here to do that. I want to say my piece and be done with it. This was over a year ago. My life goes on.

It's a struggle for me from everything that has come out. I can't go outside. I can't eat. I can't sleep. This is stuff no one knows about me so when dom when dom posted tiktok and says everyone wants to know what the real tea about me happened for me and then his caption is i'm unbothered i'll leave the drama and the tea to the clout chasers keep me out of it like i had never even addressed one thing at that point so

clout chases the only person i could think of he's talking about that has spoken on our relationship would have been Francesca. I hadn't talked about anything at that point. But it's just like one of those things when people post stuff like this. It's like you're not staying out of it. Well, you're involved when you're not involved. When you're taking a stand. It's like, yeah, either say something or don't say anything at all. Like, shut up then.

You're stirring the pot. That's what pissed me off and that's what made me lash out that day. I was like, I know this whole unbothered stance that you're taking. You may believe that that's what you're doing, but I can see through it. You can say nothing without saying everything. I think there's a lot more to Dom than meets the eye. And I think he's really good at giving off um a really sweet hard done you know character that's like everyone's doing him wrong and it's like all everyone else's

fault but there's more to the story like he's not perfect but I'm not perfect either all I want people to see is that it's not so yeah I just want to be left I want to go away from this and I don't want to have to talk about Dom and the perfect match ever again. There's other things I'm happy to elaborate on because there's so much more to my experience that I'm sure people would love to hear. We're here. Like so much to do with my situation on there and how I felt and how attacked I was by many people, mainly Francesca. Do you want to share more? how attacked I was by many people, mainly Francesca. Do you want to share more?

Well, I could elaborate more on why I felt that way and why we were not friends and we didn't come out of that house friends. There was a lot of things going on behind the scenes that I knew about. For example, when me and Dom matched up and she told she was fine about it, she ignored me for three days after that and wouldn't speak to me. And I was like, okay, what's going on? That's why you see on the show, I'm like, should I speak to her? Should I talk to her? What's going on?

She was fine about it. We didn't speak for three days. And the next conversation we had, she was setting me up. So she got production to come in and take my microphone off me. And this is fact. I know this. It's been checked. I don't need to explain how i know i know this she had me unmiked and taken into a room where she told me there was

no cameras or no microphones and there was a camera in the corner of the room that turned on to us the moment we walked in and there was microphones behind the bed so she i mean so essentially francesca was setting me up playing the role of producer without being a producer yes so everyone on that show knows how heavily involved she was with the narrative and how she would drive things to her benefit and there's so much i can elaborate on but i don't even want to like delve that deep because everyone on the show knows how it went and you know what it's sad is like everyone's too scared to speak out because they'll get the full wrath of Francesca.

They're scared. Like I've already had it. So I'm here to say like I don't care. She can keep coming for me. That's fine. I've already experienced it. I'm getting high volumes of it anyway. She was always going to do it to me.

She never liked me. She set me up and she tried to get me to admit that I didn't have genuine feelings for Dom. And I did at that point. And I was like I do want to get to know Dom. She was trying to get me kicked admit that i didn't have genuine feelings for dom and i did at that point and i was like i do want to get to know no she was trying to get me kicked off the show yeah and the conversation is like hey come on i know you don't like dom kind of thing it's like we're not on camera right now there's no microphones on you you can tell me how you really feel this is how she said it and i go what are you talking about i was, you know how I really feel about Dom. I was like, I'm so happy right now. I was like so confused. And she's like, but if I put you on a date today,

this was the date that the day that she was deciding who to put on a date, she ends up sending Chloe. The only reason she sent Chloe is because she baited me to stay in that room and found out I was not willing to get to know anyone else. So it a waste of a date so she was like if I put you on a date this day like today will will you get to know someone like are you open to getting to know other people and I was like no like I've told you so many times I'm like so happy with the way things are going with me and Dom like I don't want to and it's like to be honest I think you're unhappy and I put it on her and she like panicked she was like no I'm I'm so happy I was like to be honest I think you've been ignoring me because you actually regret the fact that you let Dom go I

still and I stand by this I think she felt like she made a mistake there I think she actually had some feelings for Dom and I'll explain that more in detail after but I put it on her and I questioned her about and she's like no like I'm so happy with Damien. I know she had feelings for Dom. And I know because she was asking to be- I didn't get the impression talking to her that she was excited about dating Damien. No, no, no. Like at all.

She did that because they've had relationships outside the show. That looks really good for TV purposes. I think she strung him along and she treated him so badly. I was the one person that was there for him mentally and he went through it. Like it's not my place to speak on his state, but we are such close friends and he loves me. Yeah, we have probably the closest relationship out of everyone

apart from me and Izzy, me and Damien. The way I supported him on that show, he has such a high state. He's one of the only people from the show that has like, there's a few, but he's one of the main ones that has reached out and continuously checked on me with everything going on because he knows the kind of person I am and he has such a great respect for me. And I love him for that. He sees me for who I am. I was his emotional support in that environment. I was the one giving him advice and telling him how much he deserved and that it was better than what he was being treated and that she was just doing

it for tv and she didn't see anything potential between them and he was so blinded by the hope that there was something there and it's so horrible because she knew there wasn't she knew there wasn't and you see that then and when he he ended up telling me he liked me damien he told me he was interested at the pool they cut all this out he was making me pancakes and he was telling me that he actually had feelings for me because i was expert i was being there for him so all these guys are just like swapping yeah words of affirmation between you and francesca every guy on that show had a point where they made a move on me and they don't show any of it.

Francesca sounds like. Yeah, yeah. They show all of that with her but they show like one relationship with me and it's like strange how much they cut out but. It's just how those shows go. Yeah, but Damien told me he had feelings for me and he told Francesca and this is when like I think Francesca's made it a personal

vendetta to like ruin him she was so annoyed that the one person she'd brought into the house had told me he liked me and she was like I'm not going to be embarrassed by the one girl that I can't stand in this environment like this is not happening so she was planning things she was reshooting scenes with Dom with production she would take him outside for five hours and ask to reshoot scenes of their first date to re-spark those emotions so that she could hopefully get Dom back off me and leave me without a match in the house and inevitably get me kicked off the show Dom would come back from that and tell me I can't believe I'm going through this

like constantly having her trying to set me up and rekindle something that is just dead. Like he's like, I'm so upset with this person. Like the fact that she even thinks that there's a hope there of me feeling that way is just laughable. He would come back and tell me all about it and we would just laugh about it and get through it. And we were like, she's every angle coming for us on this show. She would get people to send him on dates continuously it was just like her personal vendetta to break me and dom up and get me off the show because she just could not stand me and it's sad because i felt so bullied on that show i felt so alone and she had carousel who i actually really liked she had carousel carry out so much of her stuff

for her that so she could save face and carousel was just being a friend to Francesca so she would come against me and it was like I had nothing against carousel and I think she's a really nice person but it's like she actually sat down and had conversation with me and apologized to me saying she felt like she was bullying me carousel because of the things that she was put up to do by Francesca she sat and she was open with me and she said I'm so sorry for what I've put you through seeing you break down the other night over something that I caused I'm being a bully it's like high school I'm being a bully and no one knows any of that like it's so hard what I went through in that house with that experience like I don't ever want to go on a reality tv show again like I just felt like so

alone I would never want to be in that environment again like and I didn't plan on speaking about any of this but it's so hard to see like the narrative after is that that I'm this horrible person and no one knows even 10% of the story. Like I was the only person in there supporting, loving, caring and kind to everyone. Even though they were coming at me continuously, I was still nice. I just put it aside and I kept doing my thing and let it not bother me as much as I could. If so much time has passed since the show, if Francesca is seemingly happy in a relationship, why now? Like, why is she still so invested?

Why did she get these fragments from Dom and is like making it her personal mission to spread all of this? I think obviously the fact that Francesca did not like me, was not fond of me on that show, coming out of that experience and ending up going on a podcast with her ex and getting along so well with him and ending up forming a relationship, I think that just drove

the hatred she had for me so much further. And I know how it looks. It looks bad. But me and Harry have so much in common. We're both from the same place in Australia. We've both been on the same dating reality TV show. We have the same sense of humor. We clicked that day. We didn't know there was anything there that moment. Now looking back, I'm like, it makes so much sense. We literally are the same person. And what we grew was so amazing. I think after the show that drove a lot of her anger, I think she should be happy. She should be in a place that she's like past all this stuff. Her and Harry haven't been together in like three years. And I think she's in a relationship and she's been happy

and she's saying how happy she is. I don't know why it's such a drive for her to see me so like down and also commenting on not even just mine and Dom's relationship but mine and Harry's relationship as well when she knows nothing about that she's never even been a topic of conversation for me and Harry she does nothing about our relationship to be so heavily involved on all these platforms and have so much to say about stuff she knows nothing about I just it's actually kind of scary it's really weird I like, I don't understand why a woman in your position who's happy is that bothered about anything I do.

Move on. It's been over a year. Like, leave me alone. Leave me alone. I don't get it. I'm curious because I think in what Francesca has like kind of communicated over the past few days, it seems like a lot of her perspective is I went on this show. I knew I was going to be a villain. I played that part kind of in service of the success of this

show. And now that the edit has come out, I feel like I was done dirty. Like, how do you kind of respond to that viewpoint? So I know that's how she feels, because I actually got told through a friend that there was a phone call of her venting about how angry she is that villain thing has become a villain and I think she thought because she was trying to make the show so interesting that she would get a better edit and in my opinion I see nothing wrong with that edit because what I experienced on that show was not even half of that like I think she should be happy with it to be honest and I think it was unrealistic for her to be a likeable villain

with the amount of drama she was involving herself in and the amount she was doing to be the one on the camera the most and to mess with real people's emotions that she didn't have any care for. So I just think, I don't know, I just, it's mind-blowing to me that she's, like, that and it still keeps going and still trying to save face and still push the blame on other people and it's like just own up own up to what you did you wanted to go on there you wanted to be a villain you did it be happy with it you did a great job and they paid you more than everyone to do that so They paid her? How did you find out about that?

She told us after the show. Like significantly more? She told us at a dinner we all had after the show. Well, how about we take a little break, we do some texting office hours, we hear some other people's problems, and then we'll come back and then we'll wrap things up. I'd like to talk a little bit about the conversation with you and Dom about the money and the prize money and whatever drama around that.

We'll clear anything up around that. I would love to. And then we'll send you on your way. Yay. All right. Texting off is ours. Let's go. How's it going?

Hi, my name is Samantha. I'm 28 years old. And I broke up with my friends in the group chat and I miss them. Okay. So you broke up with your friends and now you... Yeah. Over text. Over text. Over text.

And now I'm regretting whether... Well, I guess I'm second guessing whether it was the right decision. Okay. Well, let's figure this out together. Tell us the story about what was the situation that caused you to break up with your friends? So they are actually my coworkers. I met at a previous job. I don't work there anymore. It's three of them. You know, two of them were a couple and they basically asked me if I wanted to live with them and because they wanted to move to the city. And I was really excited. I've always like loved living with my friends. It's like one of my funnest experience. And I agreed, but there was

like a bit, I think everyone had like different needs to try to make it work. I have two dogs. They have an indoor cat that can't go out. And I basically explained to them that because I work two jobs and I'm not always home, I really needed a place that had like a backyard for them to have like a doggy door for them to kind of go in and out because I don't really have like any help, you know, with them. And they were like, that's fine. We'll totally find something that works for all of us. And then our third friend joined in the house hunting and we all agreed that we, you know, wanted to live together. And basically what went wrong was, I think it's hard to say what went wrong, but basically I think, um, I guess I didn't

really find that the places that we were looking at worked for me for like different reasons mainly because of the dog situation like houses in San Francisco are so funky like they might be like they might all be like three bedrooms the backyard but they're also funky and once you get there you're like oh it's like a maze to get to the backyard like this doesn't work or it's not you know all these things so we kept looking at places and then I would just like be honest and felt like I could share my opinion because I was going to live here. And, you know, these were my friends and saying like, this doesn't work mainly because of the backyard thing. And they just like loved every single place. I think like they were really excited to live in the city. And like, I lived here for like so long and I was still excited,

but I just wasn't willing to sacrifice certain things. Like, you know, I wanted to be able to find parking. I wanted to have like certain things and they were just like yeah as long as we get to have the city experience we're down sure um so i think we were just like on a different page kind of to start um but basically what it came down to with the first house we went to go look at um i got there late uh i saw the place and i said you know what this doesn't work because the backyard is on the second floor whatever and so we kept seeing all these places and none of them worked out. We found one that met everybody's needs, but it was $50 over their budget. And so I agreed to pay more because it literally solved all the problems that we all had.

We applied for it and they basically turned it down and said that they didn't want to. And so the friends turned down and said that they didn't want to and so the friends turned down the place that you liked and that they'd all you'd all applied for together yeah they were like there's no way they're going to give it to us but it literally solved all our problems it was like three times the size location was great uh the the backyard was accessible through one room so that would have been my know, it was like everything we needed, but they, we applied for it. And once we got accepted, like I knew in my stomach that it wasn't like good news because I started getting like a weird vibe from them. And so when I texted them and said, Hey, they gave us a place, they were like, actually,

like, it's not what we want. It's just, and I agreed to pay more to pay more so that it could be within like their budget. They're like, well, we like this other place that's not $50 over a budget, but it was missing a bunch of things. And so I was just objectively being like, look, I think this like logically works more for us and like trying to make a case for it. But I wasn't trying to be pushy or like saying like, we have to do it this way. I was open to applying for like places that like they like, but it just kind of wasn't working. We were like, how are we have to do it this way i was open to applying for like places that like they like but it just kind of wasn't working we were like how are we going to make it work with the cat that can't go inside all these things so at a certain point they were like you know we think we have to start looking on our own because they needed to move out of their apartment so they

kind of kicked you out from the living situation they're like you're too high maintenance kind of yeah that's how i made you feel because they would all. Yeah. Yeah. Because they would come all, you know, together to cross the bridge and like look at these places. And then after we would leave and I would just I started getting I started becoming like insecure, like when they're together in the car, they're probably venting about

me. Sure. You know, and that's like just like a shitty feeling. I was really bummed out. But again, I understood. And basically, I started looking on my own. And I was like, this is going to be really hard. And so my ex who I'm living with right now, which is why I was like so pressed to move

out. He was like, you know what? I can I can keep your dogs with me. He's like the only person I would ever like leave them with. And we live like close by. He's like, you can have them over whenever you want. But I know living with your friends and like having this experience is like really important to you. Because I was starting to feel like kind of like lost, like what am I even doing living in San Francisco, things like that. So he was willing to help me out. And I was

super excited. I was like, this solved all of my problems, right? Like I reached out to them, I was like to tell them the good news. And then I just didn't get the response that I thought I was going to get. They were actually kind of upset with me. And they were like, well, why didn't you tell us sooner? We could have found a different place. And I kind of felt like they were holding it against me. And I don't know, that was, I mean, I was upset because I think, you know, it was like obvious why I wouldn't want to give up my dogs like right away. And it wasn't even something that I asked my ex to do. Like that's something that he had offered. And it's just like such a big thing. I didn't like is the backyard. So they told me that they'd gone ahead, applied and were offered it. But they still wanted me to live with them. So if I was interested, I can move in with them there. And I was like, you know, they told me like, we want to live with you. So if you want it. So another thing too, is that the couple wanted

their own room, but we were, so we were looking at like four bedrooms and three bedrooms. But that place was a three bedroom. So they were going to share. So they said, you know, we're willing to not share as long as you can live with us. Are you interested? And I said, you know, I'm down. Just let me just like sleep on it. It's like a big decision.

But I'll tell you in the morning. The next day they asked me like where my head was at. And I said, yes, I'm so down to move in but I feel like I wasn't there for any of like the decision making stuff like how they were gonna split rent or the room so I was just like can you guys like update me you know like I wanted to feel included and the second I said that they were like actually we want our own rooms and we feel bad about it. But basically, like, you can't live with this. And that's where the text messages start. You send us some text messages.

Yes. So, yeah, that's where they start. Let's do let's do a reading. I'm just really frustrated that y'all offered one of the rooms last night and less than 24 hours retracted it. I wish y'all hadn't said anything if you weren't sure. That's mainly where I feel really disappointed in how it turned out. This all seems reasonable. I don't want this to affect our friendship either. I've been thinking about it and I think I need time to process and don't feel like the timing

of this trip works for him anymore. What trip? We had a trip like at the end of the month, which kind of like shortened our searching time. Yeah. I'm sorry to bail last minute. I just think I need to figure out my own housing plans and probably shouldn't go on vacation for a week. Hey, just wanted to say that I'm sorry about all of this. To be honest, I thought things would work out okay, but it kept getting more difficult and we kept seeing so many places, but kept getting the sense that you had the last approval of them. Maybe we shouldn't have liked places too quickly, but we did. And then to hear that you didn't really like them made us feel like we weren't going to find anything

or at least anything within our budget. So we really started panicking. I at least felt defeated towards the end and it seemed more realistic to start focusing on my own individual needs too. From the beginning, I think we really liked the pink house and hurt to hear you dismissed it so quickly after arriving late to the showing and not to point fingers either but I think it's helpful to explain part of where our frustration was coming from. I know we could have handled things a lot better too so I understand your frustration as well. I hope we can continue our friendship,

but also understand that it will probably take time for everyone. The timing of the Oregon trip. Is that how you say that? Oregon? Yeah. Trip. I'm too Australian. Sorry.

Isn't ideal either. I understand if you want to take that time and hope we can all be in a more comfortable space later on. The rest is in Spanishanish i think that's fine um it basically says no one's died you know we'll move on okay okay uh and then someone else wrote in hi no pressure to respond this was after the trip oh this is after this was after the trip they came back it was like a week or two okay and they hit you up hey no pressure to respond at all but just wanted to say that we miss you halloween is coming up and we know that you wanted space and we totally respect

that but we would we wanted to say it'd be nice to hang out and celebrate together if by chance you're up for it in any way we understand if uh if it's too soon but we know uh we're thinking of you and hope we can talk soon and then you wrote hey hope your trip went well and thanks for the congratulations i do appreciate you reaching out and then processing all this to be honest i just don't think i see myself investing in this friendship anymore no hard feelings on my end i still care about y'all and wish you the best did they respond to to that? Exclamation point. No. There was no response. And that's what really hurt.

They did not respond. I mean, you did kind of dump them after, you know, you wanted them to beg for you not to break up with them. Sure, a little bit. I think you wanted them to justify more like their actions as well. Like, and acknowledge that it hurt your feelings

a little bit more than they did in the first how long ago was this this was around like october so three four months have you had any contact with them whatsoever no contact no how long have you known these people i knew them for like about a year we were you know like several co-workers um we i think it was a good mix of we like had a lot of fun going out together they were like great party friends but we weren't just party friends like you know we we would hang out and do other stuff like stay home and do dinners and things like that so but we weren't also super close um either right so it was kind of it was a nice friendship that's why i missed it but it wasn't like yeah that personal great so i think well it was i don't know yeah no totally listen

you knew him for a year it started probably as party they were cool and fun hangs you got to know them i'm sure there were moments of closeness, there was moments of bonding, there was moments of sharing and that connected you, but these weren't like friends that you've known for five or 10 years and you've been through ups and downs. Ride or dies. Ride or, you know, and that's the thing. Like sometimes the closeness, you meet friends, right? And you can connect just like,

friendships are relationships just like romantic ones are. And just like romantic relationships, some of them can start and be super intense and passionate. And you can feel like, you know. Like a friend chemistry. Yeah. And you can, you know, the whole, I feel like I've known you forever. Friends can feel that experience. And you can, you know, you can feel like sisters or brothers and things like that.

You can feel like sisters or brothers and things like that. And just like in romantic relationships, that energy can just be a result of you guys feeling a need or that you've been missing in other relationships. And that can feel really good. But there isn't that necessarily foundation of really knowing each other. And so when drama happens in any type of relationship without a foundation or a history, it often can lead to overreactions or just all parties not being willing to really fight through the drama or fight through the adversity to salvage the friendship.

And you're kind of partly guilty of that as well. You're just like, I don't know if I, like I don't, I'm upset, I feel hurt, I feel outside, like cast it out. And listen, I get it. You had this friend group and in this group, you were the outsider, right? You felt like they were all in kind of unison

and they're all on the same page and you felt at first like an inconvenience and then you felt probably like talked about behind your back, like you said, and it's almost like you rejected them before they could, you know, reject you, you know, make it feel any worse. So I'm in favor of you reaching out because it's like, what do you have, well, one, what do you have to lose? Right. And I don't think you need to like run, you know,

if you reach out, it's not like you're going to like start living with them again. You're not me. You might not hang out with them as much or, but you're just like open to the idea of saying, Hey, you know, I think,

you know, having them back in your life on some level, whatever that level is. And that might take time. I think it's going to require some vulnerability on your part.. I think it's going to require some vulnerability on your part, and I think it's going to require some humility on your part, and you might have to acknowledge that you overreacted on some level

because you were right to feel how you felt. Yeah. You know, hey, I felt these things, but I would probably reach out. If this feels authentic to you, I would say, I would reach out to the group and I would text them something like, hey guys, it's been a long time.

This message probably feels out of left field or kind of out of nowhere, given the last message was me saying I no longer wanted to be friends with y'all. But if I'm being honest, I have thought a lot about you guys in the past several months and I miss you guys. You know, and to say, I felt very rejected by you all

and I was probably overly sensitive. You know, I would say like that because that allows them to say, you know, oh no, you weren't overly, you know, in either way, like you probably were overly sensitive. Even that you had a right to feel, but you know, that was a fairly gracious message that they sent. And I understand you probably felt like, well, fuck it. I mean,

like they got the house they wanted, they got the place they wanted. You probably felt very in turmoil. Like you said, like you were questioning whether you even wanted to live in that city anymore. You're stuck living with your ex. He's taking your dog i imagine you felt very you went from being excited about this kind of new journey and this kind of new chapter in san francisco with his new groups of friends and i'm sure you got really excited you probably talked about how much fun you're gonna have and then you got dumped you know it's like i'm'm sure it felt like this message was your ex reaching out to you saying, hey, I don't want to be with you, but we can still be friends. And so I understand why you reacted the way you did.

But yeah, I don't think there's any harm in saying I probably overreacted. I was just, I felt very rejected by the group and I felt like an outsider and I was defensive. felt like an outsider and I was defensive, but that all said, if you guys are okay with that, I would like, I'd like to reconnect and maybe just leave it at that. I'd like to reconnect and see, you know, if I could have you guys back in my life on some level, because like I would start small, you know, like, Hey, let's be best friends again or whatever not just like i'd like you back in my life on some level i'd like to reconnect and then the choice is up to them what what does your gut tell you about how they might react to this i feel like and this is kind of what's scary about it i think that they might all have different reactions like there's some in the group that i felt a little bit closer to and maybe they want to reconnect, but maybe another one doesn't,

but I feel like it's kind of like a group decision. So what about you maybe reaching out to the person you feel the closest to and send this message to one person and it's like, hey, kind of what I said, right? And not only do I miss you, I kind of miss the group, but I wanted to reach out to you because I felt like the most safe to do so. And I understand if this is something you want to talk with them about,

but I just, instead of reaching out to everyone, I guess I just felt the most safe reaching out to you. And I think you should use the word safe because it will help them empathize with your point of view. So you don't think I should read that much into the fact that they never responded after? I guess I'm worried that they don't care. And then why am I reaching out

if they don't? If they didn't care, they wouldn't have reached out before. You broke up with them. I mean, it was a fairly harsh response by you yeah just definitive yeah it was yeah okay yeah i think what are they supposed to do they definitely care you can see that in the text before they they were trying to wish you well and stuff like you can tell that they care yeah and i think they were probably taken a little bit of back by it because they also they tried to communicate so well how they felt and not make

you feel a certain way but honestly I would have taken it the same way that you did because I'm the kind of person that can feel left out super easy in a friendship group so I would have read that and felt the same way and it's hard sometimes not to act off like emotion like that but I think after you sent it I feel like there would have been a part of you that also thought maybe I shouldn't have said it the way that I said it because I think you were hoping for a response as well. And then that you didn't get one,

I don't think it outlines that they don't care at all. I think if you reach out, it's honestly going to be fine. Yeah, if you want to bring that up, I would bring that up in person down the line to say, you know, because I'm sure you'll have more conversations about all this like if if you text them and they respond in kind and you guys you know even if you just

met up with one of them for coffee you might kind of get into a little bit more detail and say well you know i sent this message and you just like that fuck you basically and you could say well well you didn't respond and then i think that might be an opportunity to say like yeah if i'm being honest looking back i think i was just really sensitive and as silly as it sounds i guess i just i felt very unwanted by you guys and i wanted you to care and that's very relatable like you push. And I wanted you to care. And that's very relatable. Like you push them away to see if, to test them, you know,

you felt very rejected by the group. And so you were like, no, I don't know. I don't want you. And deep down, what you really wanted was for them to fight for you. You wanted,

you really wanted them to like, I think so too. Kind of beg and apologize and really let you know how important you were to the group and how valuable you were to them. And they didn't do any of that. And that hurt your feelings. While justified, you probably,

that probably wasn't realistic given the whole situation. Like you had the right to feel the way you did, but this is one of those kind of messy, you know, roommate situations. I mean, roommate being roommates with friends has ruined a lot of friendships. I've ruined, it's ruined mine.

For sure. Like it's ruined many of mine. Like it's hard. You don't talk about it. Yeah. Roommates can be great roommates and not friends and friends can be great friends and not good roommates. Like they're not always,

it's not universal. There's boundaries that you just cross by not good roommates. Exactly. Like, they're not always, it's not universal. There's boundaries that you just cross by overlapping those relationships. It's like, hey, you're a real cool hang, but like. And then it's like, you have to talk about money. You have to talk about responsibilities and cleaning. And it's just like. Sharing of like all the maintenance and it's too much. It makes the friendship stressful.

It had started getting, it had started feeling, I think, different just in trying to make it happen because all these conversations were coming up right um and it's funny that you say it now like how they were really gracious and kind with their messages and hearing y'all read it i can hear it but at the moment i felt like one of the last messages was petty like saying i was late and i was like how dare you well again we read text messages and and our feelings so you were feeling a certain way and how you read that message was you know it was also like you were feeling left out so no matter what they're saying a message that's coming from like us we versus like you as an individual is gonna like kind of heighten that dynamic that you're already like feeling hurt by that's so true because I would have felt like that hearing that message as well it's not easy to do because you're

being vulnerable again but I think it's the best way because I don't think it's gonna be a case of them reaching out and you know I could be wrong but I don't think it's gonna be a case of them coming back with anger I think they're going to appreciate the vulnerability because I feel like they will feel like they tried to accommodate for your feelings and then it didn't meet that and they're probably upset about that. So to hear that you're open to rekindling a relationship or just reaching out and trying to smooth things over, I think it will be a relief for all of you. I feel like from the amount that they tried to explain their actions, they obviously care like you can see that and I think they'll miss you and I think it'll be okay but it's also it may not be I'm not like I'm not psychic but it's okay to be

vulnerable and it's okay if they don't reply that's it's still being true to how you feel and it's showing growth it's showing that you are acknowledging that maybe you did overstep and you'll also take that into account in the future. But I'm exactly like you in that way. And I get hurt pretty easy when it comes to friend dynamics. I've been in that situation. You know, there's an odd number and sometimes the side's taken and you feel uncomfortable. So it's okay.

But I think it will be all right. I really think if you reach out, it's going to be fine. Do you feel good about what you're going to say? I do, and I'm just going to do it today because I've honestly been dying to do it, and I think I needed just some... Yeah, reach out to the one and just say, Hey, I've been thinking about this for a really long time.

I miss you guys. I wish I had you back in my life. I was just feeling very sensitive. I was hurt. I understand where you guys were coming from, but I just took it very personally and I just didn't react the way I wish I did. And it's been on my mind a lot.

Honestly, I wish I would have reached out a long time ago, but I'm hoping I connect with all of you, but I wanted to reach out to you because I feel the most safe with you. I would definitely say that to the person I reach out with. To be honest, I got kind of intimidated in a group chat

feeling like the odd one out. Really humanizing yourself, just being like, I was intimidated. It was scary. Would you be willing to grab a coffee and catch up? Talk about it.

I understand if not. I do miss you guys and hope to hear from you. And then at the end of the day, you know you did everything to smooth the situation out anyway, so you can't have any regrets on that. You've done everything that you feel was right to do. And if it doesn't go the way that you plan,

you still did that. And that's mature. Yeah. And I think that's really a good thing. Yeah, I agree. I think either way I'll feel better. I think you will. Because I think I will have acted, like,

I think more in a line with who I want to be in terms of, like, friendships and stuff. a line with who I wanna be in terms of like friendships. These aren't your ride or die. Yeah. These are friends and you miss them and you wanna connect with them because it's nice to just have people, but they aren't your ride or dies.

Yeah. So, and that's okay to acknowledge that to yourself. You don't need to bring that up to them. But while you're friends with them you know it's good to know what type of friends you can really trust and what type of friends you're just like yeah we're friends that's what hurt like i thought they were like my new ride or die friends sure but you only knew them for like a year and to really know that you need to have you need to build some history it's like dating someone for six months and being like i thought

you know like i was never gonna hurt your feelings and it's just like i'm an asshole like my two best friends in the world from college like we had really bad housing drama junior year like I was the one who got kind of fucked over and it sucked and so it's like I just want to validate that it like it does it was a really hard experience you were picking up on real things but it's also like yeah you can bring them back in and like George was saying like it's just good to send a message and feel proud of yourself for like behaving in a way that's like pushing yourself. Yeah. It's almost just as hard to find those ride or die friends as it is to find your like your life partner.

This is why I get older. Like people drop friends because like you people claim to be friends all the time. But like when it comes to being real friends, like being a real friend is facing adversity and prioritizing people over yourself, just like a relationship. And when it comes to that, very few people are willing to do that. It's hard to find. But you can still have some cool friends to hang out with and have a good time with and socialize with and like, you know, chill with. Let us know how this goes.

Yeah, they're super fun and I miss them. So yeah. All right. Well, there you go. You gotta let us know. I will be reaching out. And also, if you want to send, I'll be on email all day today if you want to send a draft.

But like, you got this. It's going to be awesome. We're going to check back in with you to see how it goes. And either way, it's going to be a victory that you like are reaching out. You'll feel better.

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you all so much. Thank you. Our pleasure. Good luck. I really want to know how that goes. So I need the update from someone.

Because I would love to hear like a happy ending to that. Totally. We will be giving y'all an update. Georgia, all right, back to you. Oh, God.

All right, let's wrap things up by talking about this, you know, prize money or whatever, you know, you guys were supposed to win some money by being the perfect match.

Yeah. I know Dom had posted some stuff about like you only reached out to talk about the money and and implied that like you know you were disingenuous you're like a show yada yada so can you clear things up when it comes when it comes to this prize money and what was the story about all that stuff so he was highlighting those messages because i think he saw a window of opportunity to make it look like i was never genuine about that connection.

And if you didn't know that I reached out prior, it would definitely look that way because we were discussing a situation that was private that involved me and him winning the show. And obviously because we won the show together, we were given an all expenses paid for trip. And then there was so much back and forth with Netflix about what are they going to do in this situation? Cause we're not together anymore. We can't go on a trip and be together on a, all expenses paid for trip. So like they came back to us with a deal and they were going to give us

5k each. So I was talking to him about that. It's a private conversation. And reality, we shall give you a 5k. You know what? I'm happy if I don't get anything at this point. I don't care.

But it was literally, he's involved and I was looking out for his best interest when I brought that up to him because I had a conversation with another cast member and they were like, definitely don't accept that. Like, you should ask for more. So I spoke to Dom and I was like, how do you feel about and if he was to reply and say no I'm happy with it that conversation would have gone no further he did reply and he said I'm happy to ask for more I'm happy to go with that so the fact that he cropped his replies out and made it look like I only reached out because I was concerned about the money when I'd reached out in September to wish him well for his

show and said a lovely heartfelt message. It's on my phone. It's in our messages. I can read it. But he ignored that completely and chose to focus on something that was a private matter between me and him that it had to be addressed. I was getting calls every day from Netflix about, what are we going to do?

Are you going to accept this? Can I send this here? Can I do that there? And he was involved. It required me speaking to him. If I was to accept it but he was not happy with it i would have been like oh okay that's annoying like we should have spoken about it so i was doing the mature thing reaching out and having a conversation about the aftermath of this situation and it was that if he was to turn around and say i don don't want any more money, I would have went, fine, no worries at all. I'm happy with that.

I just wanted to see your stand on things. And his stand was to see if we could actually achieve the luxury, all expenses paid for trip for a week that we'd wanted. That includes first class flights. You know, that's like five star accommodation. We want to get what we have said. It's like we won that and he wanted to. So I'm a little bit disappointed that he used that against me,

but I also did lash out and he was in a place of defense and I think he posted that to prove a point that I'm this disingenuous person that he genuinely knows I'm not and I think he would feel really bad about it. I know those conversations were a two-way street and he was in agreeance. So it's a little bit strange. I did post the whole thing after, but I took it down because I was like, I even posted it. I said, post the whole thing. Like I'm annoyed that he cropped his reply out where he's literally on board with what I was saying. But I deleted it because I was like, you know what? This is actually a private matter. I shouldn't even be discussing. It's to

do with me, you and Netflix. And I was looking out for your best interests. If you said no, we wouldn't have gone any further. And I did reach out prior, and he did ignore that. He didn't reply. Now I know why. He probably didn't want to talk to me. He was probably sad and not over a lot of things, and he didn't reply on purpose.

So you saw the message. You know it was there i did try don't say i didn't because i've got the proof and i posted that the day that he said that so and people just you know have a right not to want to date you thank you like not everything works outside a bubble like that when you're everything's taken care of and you know what's crazy everyone else on that show didn't work and we don't and it's not okay it's like oh whoa like there's so much going on so much back and forth Shane and Chloe didn't work out Joey and Carousel got engaged they're not together they're not together they got engaged on the show that's a little bit more serious than let's see how things go after you know what i mean but no one cares about that they're just so focused on the perfect match not being so perfect and it's not i'm sorry to burst everyone's bubble yeah i mean don seems like a

swell guy but he he seems like a rather sharp person who's aware of his brand. Yeah, I think so. I think it's very much come from a place of positivity. And I want to be the non-biased, the one that's just like unbothered. But what I'm frustrated is there's more behind the scenes. And with taking no stand,

he actually took a stand on things that were being said that he could have put clarification on that he knows that are true. He took a stand and to say, I'm not bothered. He posted cryptic shit about how there's tea and call people clout chasers. But I wasn't even speaking out at that point. It was interesting who he was talking about. But it's like you took a stance when you took no stance, but you let the one person that hated me and you on the show spread the narrative and you said nothing about it. That is taking a stand. Were you unbothered?

Absolutely not. You were so bothered. And it hurts that he's kind of getting away with that narrative. And it's like I can see how he's very good at doing that. It's very much like I'm going to dance and I'm going and I'm gonna not react but I'm gonna tell this person to say something and I'm gonna enjoy it from afar like it works it's working but there's more to the story and you know what I wish him well I really do from the bottom of my heart I think given everything I've said today he's a great guy we just not compatible. We were not the perfect match and that is okay.

It's okay. He's going to find someone that understands when he shuts down to give him more attention and things like that. He's going to find someone that doesn't get anxious and respond to those things in a negative way. He's going to find someone that matches his traits and it's just not me and that's okay life goes on and i really do wish him the best i have nothing no anger in my heart if i saw him tomorrow i would hug him my phone's open anytime if he wants to call me he's got my number if he wants any more clarification on anything that was not discussed today he can do that i'm never to treat him unkindly. I never have. And I want, except for the lashing out, shouldn't have done that.

And I'm sorry. I'll take accountability for that. I shouldn't have lashed out. I was in a place of anger. But I have nothing but love to give for Dom in this moment going forward. And I've always tried to do that. He has my number. If he needs anything else, he can call me. And I really mean that.

I will never not respond. And I've tried to reach out. And I should have tried harder maybe. Maybe that's what he wanted. Maybe he wanted me to reach out more. I thought when I got no response, he didn't want to speak to me. And that's where I left it. And if I knew he saw that video and it hurt his feelings, of course I would have dressed

it earlier and I would have told him then and there. That is not true. That it's not the events that happened that day. You know I was home with you that night. We were in Newport Beach. It takes like an hour and a half to Uber back there. And I got home at a pretty reasonable time considering I also went to dinner that night with my management.

I got home before him. He was out to dinner with his friends. That's the part that actually really pissed me off is Francesca saying he was sitting in a hotel room crying, like upset that I wasn't there and I was at a podcast. He was out with his friends. He was fine. We'd spoken about the day. It's not the narrative that she's portraying. It's more of the story. And I have no anger for anyone. I'm going to like never speak about mine and Dom's situation again if I can. If anything else needs to be addressed, I'll obviously have to. But I'd rather just leave it here and just move on with my life.

Like I'm happy. I'm in a really happy relationship with Harry and I love him so much. And I think that's probably the last thing everyone's going to want to hear right now. But I'm happy and I shouldn't have to hide my happiness because of what's happened. Like it's not a part of my life anymore. It was a year ago. right now but i'm happy and i shouldn't have to hide my happiness because of what's happened like it's it's not it's not a part of my life anymore it was a year ago and i've moved on and i wish everyone would do the same well we thank you for coming on and uh sharing uh your story and um i hear you thank you yeah thank you so much thanks for listening guys uh we want to thank georgia again for being so vulnerable and sharing everything that she shared today.

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