The Viall Files - E584 Going Deeper with Anjelah Johnson-Reyes - Mother’s Day Snubs, Martha Stewart Crushes, and Children vs. Careers

Episode Date: May 18, 2023

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper Edition! At the beginning of the episode, we talk about the just-breaking headlines of Harry and Meghan’s car chase in New York, and what we can expect ...from “The Golden Bachelor.” Then, we are joined by comedian Anjelah Johnson-Reyes to discuss her newest special, her first pregnancy, and how she feels about current pop culture headlines like Kim Kardashian dating Tom Brady and Martha Stewart modeling for Sports Illustrated. Finally, we have a Sweating the Wedding caller who’s not sure how to address a girl that hooked up with her fiancé before they started dating. She’s aware of the situation and wants to squash it before the wedding, but the other girl seems to want to hide it. “Babies come with blessings.”  Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@theviallfiles.com to be a part of our Monday episodes. Join us for our new LIVE show on Thursdays at 9PM ET/6PM PT on Amp, available in the Apple app store. Android User? Listen here: https://www.onamp.com/  To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to asknick@theviallfiles.com with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Vuori - Vuori is an investment in your happiness. For our listeners they are offering 20% off your first purchase. Get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the planet at https://www.vuori.com/VIALL IQ Bar - This episode is brought to you by IQBAR. Now get twenty percent off every IQBar product, plus free shipping when you text FILES to sixty four thousand (64-000). Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @anjelahjohnson @alison.vandam @liffordthebigreddog @dereklanerussell 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 you're crazy what's going on everybody welcome back to another amazing episode of the vile files i'm nick your host joined by the household of Ali, Amanda, and Derek. Hope everyone is having an amazing day, whatever day it is that you are tuning into the show, especially for all you Thursday people out there who can't wait to get to our episodes of Going Deeper. We're having a fantastic episode with a very funny, a very hilarious Angela Johnson.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Reyes is with us today today we get into a bunch of things like having babies it's an amazing episode with angela we can't wait for you to hear that before we get into that what else we have going on what's new what's cracking fresh off the press is fresh off the press fresh off the price so hot piping hot. It's an upsetting story about Harry and Meghan being followed in, I guess, a two hour long chase saga throughout New York City after an event that Meghan attended that was for a women's foundation. Yeah. So her mom, Doria, was with her.
Starting point is 00:01:18 It was the three of them that was attending. It was like a women's gala in New York. Meghan gave a whole speech. They left. And I guess they released a statement that said last night the duke and duchess of sussex and miss ragland were involved in a near catastrophic car chase at the hands of a ring of highly aggressive paparazzi this relentless pursuit lasting over two hours resulted in multiple near collisions involving other drivers on the
Starting point is 00:01:40 road pedestrians and two nypd officers while being a public figure comes with its level of interest from the public, it should never come at the cost of anyone's safety. But why were they in a two-hour chase? That's the only thing that sounds weird to me. It's just like... Well, it seems like that's how long it took to disperse paparazzi. My main level of concern for anyone is the pedestrians not involved in this chase. I'm so glad that everyone is okay, especially Harry and Meghan.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Well, everyone. I'm glad everyone is okay. Why is there a chase going on for two hours? While I empathize with it must have been scary and and traumatic for harry and megan to experience this i don't think in any way it makes it okay for them to have done anything illegal from a traffic violation that may also put any other pedestrians at risk i don't think them being chased by paparazzi justifies them running red lights or speeding and i don't know if that if that happened but at the same time a chase sure sounds like there's two different parties the person being
Starting point is 00:02:53 chased the party being chased and the chasers uh sure implies that there might have been some traffic violations in those two hours so this this person said, despite being confronted by uniform police multiple times, the paparazzi's cars continued their pursuit in trying to follow the Sussexes and Doria to the private residence they were staying at. Traffic violations by the drivers included driving on a sidewalk, going through red lights, reversing down a one-way street, driving while photographing, and illegally blocking a moving vehicle. Photos of the couple that came as a result of the two-hour chase briefly appeared on the Daily Mail this morning, but have since been removed.
Starting point is 00:03:30 A source close to the Sussexes says Harry, Meghan and Doria are understandably shaken, but thankful everyone's safe. Can you imagine what was going through Harry's head in a car with Meghan, who he has literally said he tried to remove from the royal family so that she didn't become his mother and he's sitting in the exact same situation his mother was in when she died so fucked up yeah terrifying I don't know
Starting point is 00:03:54 like yeah like the most triggering incident that could possibly happen but he they they're not removing themselves from the spotlight so I don't know if Harry's done anything you know I would also argue though that the reason that they've made certain business decisions that they have is because their security has been stripped and he needs a way of being able to protect his family with security
Starting point is 00:04:13 proven by this incident literally yeah but why are they driving why aren't they taking a helicopter you can rent a helicopter in new york yeah but that's expensive again and then if they're doing stuff in the public eye they They've made over 200 million. They're so loaded. They have money pouring in. They are probably warming their furnace with cash. But do you know how awful those articles would have been if someone would have saw them get in a helicopter
Starting point is 00:04:37 following a women's event? They would have destroyed Meghan. What? The press. They would have said, who is this entitled bitch flying in a helicopter? There are people dying. No one would have said that. Yes press they would have said who is this entitled bitch flying in a helicopter there are people dying said that yes they would have they rip her
Starting point is 00:04:50 apart okay I'm sure someone would have said that but they take helicopters they fly the real thing is like how do we regulate paparazzi like how do we make like not even right like how do we make sure like there's any kind of enforcement or punishment because like we can like cherry pick and nitpick about the way various people are responding but
Starting point is 00:05:08 i think at the end of the day this shouldn't be shouldn't be an issue to this degree i get it the whole all of society like love celebrity it comes with a price but like there needs to be a point where it is like criminalized in a specific way that deters what is happening right now because like no one's doing shit about it that's the thing despite being confronted by uniformed police multiple times why why why is it a lot why is they allowed to harass clearly that's harassment yeah and like they need to be arrested so that they can press charges but why aren't they i don't know i don't know what the laws are and it's like and we see this happen time and time again and sometimes we take the side of like the people being pursued sometimes we're like oh of like the people being pursued.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Sometimes we're like, oh, no, the people like with Nick Lachey, like a lot of people are like he was being too aggressive, like that was out of line. And it's like, regardless of who you're going to try to like blame in any given situation, the fact is that it shouldn't be happening. And the paparazzis are the one who is initiating all this contact. So like we need to. Why don't they have tinted windows? I mean, we don't know what their window situation was. The photos were removed.
Starting point is 00:06:06 But if can't they get windows so tinted that they couldn't possibly get photographed? They want to follow them to the private residence, see them get out of the car. No, I get that. They want everything. They want it all. It's so weird because, you know, to get someone on TV, you need them to sign all this paperwork. You know, like we see that on like The Bachelor or other reality shows. Like you can see the people in the background with their face blurred out who like clearly didn't sign the release
Starting point is 00:06:27 and it's such an interesting issue that we're now like trying to navigate now as a society is the fact that it's no longer these like networks that have a monopoly on showing videos that get shown to everyone like anybody can record a video that goes viral but we don't have that same like release process so like nobody's getting consent anymore i think it's different i don't i'm not a lawyer of any kind certainly but my understanding that has something to do with them being public figures is that they i think the implication is they kind of forego that ability to like if they go out in public as public figures and they're photographed somehow i don't know why but somehow that's okay but i'm even talking about like your average joe who's just walking
Starting point is 00:07:10 down the street while someone's doing something that goes viral on a tiktok yeah i don't know like it's i don't know but you're right because like if abc for example like if you watch the bachelor and you're doing b-roll, if I'm in Chicago running while they get B-roll of me kind of running and they film people, if you're recognizable in the shot, they will have people sign waivers. You could be in the background and it's kind of blurred and you're not really recognizable. They don't necessarily have to get you to waive that. Right. And if it's like in between, they might like blur out faces. But like, so they do have rules
Starting point is 00:07:44 around that particular topic that, you know, you either have to get someone's consent if you can recognize some person in the shot or if they're in the background. And I don't know how they distinguish those two things, but there are some rules around that. And then how that works with paparazzis and photographs, I don't know. Yeah. And it's interesting because I feel like maybe California or places that are more media folk, I know New York has a lot of media focus, but California seems to be a bit stricter. But even if there's laws in place, people might clearly ignore them. But yeah, I also agree that because anyone can record anything, there's sort of like a culture of people just taking pictures.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I mean, I even saw like a tweet, like a random tweet and it was like someone was replying because someone basically took a picture of someone like playing video games in a Starbucks and like, what kind of weirdo plays a video game in Starbucks and it's like this is just a random person they're just hanging out drinking coffee and someone thought it was like okay to like take a picture of this person and post it on social media nothing makes me more mad than those videos that people will take of like someone who's vibing out at a concert or like chilling out like doing just like bopping mining their own business. And they'll take a video of it and be like, look at this like person dancing that's disparaging.
Starting point is 00:08:49 That pisses me off so much. Like what the fuck is wrong with you? Like actually though, what the fuck is wrong with you? It's one thing if you're so bored in the moment that you need to make some like stupid, shitty comment to the person you're with because you have nothing better to say. You don't get to post them on the internet.
Starting point is 00:09:03 But to post that on the goddamn internet, like what is your problem? Actually though, like why do you feel entitled to like take someone living their life and to like put them on a platform where they could be destroyed or where they're just so visible
Starting point is 00:09:16 without them ever consenting or asking to be that visible? And we talk so much about mental health and I'm like, this is not even that person. Are you talking about videos where like they clearly don't have the consent? Yeah, like where it's like, oh, like look at this stupid person dancing health. And I'm like, this is not even that person. Are you talking about videos where they clearly don't have the consent? Yeah, where it's like, oh, look at this stupid person dancing.
Starting point is 00:09:29 And then it's like, just some poor 45-year-old person at a wedding. Just like, maybe they're dancing dorky. Who cares? And then they put it on the internet. Or at a concert, I feel like that's where it happens a lot. Where it's like, you're with complete strangers. And then they'll put it on the internet. And everyone's like, oh, like what a fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And then some people are like, this is horrible. Why is everyone making fun of this person? That really gets me going. I'm curious about this story. But yeah, I just that I'm this is literally breaking news coming out right now. But I'm guessing more information will will come out. But why did it last for two hours? It is an interesting question of like as unfortunate
Starting point is 00:10:06 as this situation is what level of responsibility do harry and megan have you know despite the i have no doubt horrible feeling and anxiety riddled to be surrounded but what responsibility to have to also make sure that they don't put anyone else in danger while they're trying to elude paparazzi yeah because you know it doesn't you shouldn't be going i'm not saying they were but like if reports came out that they were like the chase reached you know 120 miles per hour on the freeways, that's not okay. You know, they shouldn't be, you know, going at speeds that are unsafe for themselves and anyone else around them. And yeah, I don't, I don't know. And even if they get criticized for taking helicopters, that is maybe smarter and safer for everyone in the future. They certainly can afford
Starting point is 00:11:06 it. I don't think they get a free pass to drive however they want just because they're being, and I don't, again, maybe they didn't break any traffic laws. Maybe it was only simply the paparazzi. It's a very fascinating kind of discussion. Yeah. And it is scary to think about the way that like just by being in new york city like people who are trying to go about their day can be like suddenly like pulled into this and like it's crazy yeah how like yeah crazy um so taco bell is fighting to get taco tuesday untrademarked there's i guess I guess, a company called Taco John. You've never heard of Taco John's? You've never heard of Taco John's? Oh my god, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah, I was going to walk to Shaw. I think it's a Midwest thing. It's literally the same as Taco Bell. Right? I mean, I've never had it, but I just mean in setup, in how many there are. There's Del Taco. That's pretty similar to Taco Bell. What is Taco John's different? I haven't been to Taco John's in maybe 25 years, so I couldn't speak to it, but I am
Starting point is 00:12:08 familiar. I just feel like they're all kind of one in the same. Yeah. Anyway, Taco John's. So Taco John's currently has a trademark on Taco Tuesday, and Taco Bell believes Taco Tuesday should belong to all who make, sell, eat, and celebrate tacos. In fact, the very essence of Taco Tuesday is to celebrate the commonality amongst people of all walks of life who come together every week to celebrate something as simple yet culturally phenomenal as the taco. Is this a PR stunt?
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yeah, but that's just that's taco bell sometimes you just need a random story yeah this is a cause that is simple and so what happens if they win a lot of taco tuesday marketing probably a lot of specials which honestly taco bell will probably hook it up with some tacos on Tuesdays. Probably, right? Oh, boy. They better do some kind of spectacular thing. I also just love the idea of someone going to law school and then having to work on this law. You know, you're working with a huge firm, your corporate firm.
Starting point is 00:13:17 You're expecting to do huge mergers and acquisitions for these- This is huge. Fortune 500 companies. I can't imagine they'll win. You can or can't can't i mean it like comes down to what judge we get assigned i'm not well versed in i i mean i've had i've had to deal with some trademark stuff but like if taco john's is utilizing this trademark yeah i guess the question is how are they using it yeah and how restricted is it because taco
Starting point is 00:13:43 tuesday does feel like something like i'm not like, oh, Taco Tuesday, classic Taco John's signature. Well, it's not like live mass. Yeah, I don't know. No. So the show is called British Bake Off, right? But in the United States, it's called the British Baking Show. And the reason is because I believe it's Pillsbury owns the term Bake Off. Oh, what? So the first season came out and it was already shot. And they basically had to cut around and dub over and remove any instance of the use of Bake Off and that the worst part is the trophy is etched glass and it says bake off so they had to cgi it to say baking show instead damn yeah damn pillsbury it's like how in uh australia burger king is hungry jacks because i think there's
Starting point is 00:14:40 as it was told to me i have not done any research to verify this, but somebody just like some lovely- Why couldn't they call it Burger Prince? Because that was coming for William. That's iconic. Honestly, Burger Prince, that's fun. There's rhinestones. It's like, that's a sleek and pizzazz restaurant pitch. I think it has to do probably with the royal family, right? Why?
Starting point is 00:14:59 Well, the reason they can't do Burger King is because I think there's some like random business, small business owner in Australia who's like, do Burger King is because I think there's some like random business, small business owner in Australia who's like the Burger King corporation was like, yo, like we would like, or you want this trademark? Like we'll give you an insane amount of money.
Starting point is 00:15:13 And they were like, no, I won't do it. That's dumb. I think it's awesome. If it really was some sort of small business. I, I think that is amazing.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I think hold the line. What? I mean, again, maybe, maybe it was a smart business decision but you're suggesting that you like it out of spite i like it out of underdog i like how i was thinking it had something to do with the monarchy i'm like queen elizabeth said no you like the underdog who is turning down as you describe a truckload of money. Based on the principal. I thought you more than anyone could get behind doing something based off of the principal.
Starting point is 00:15:51 No. You would be the friend who's patting the friend on the back being like, you know what, you should say no to this out of the principal. And they're turning down $5 million, what, $10 million? What price would you be like, you know what? Yeah, you turn down that money. Stick it to the man. I don't think I would tell someone what to do.
Starting point is 00:16:12 No, I'm just saying. But I would celebrate. So take your grandfather's lake house back when you've been wanting to buy it. Let's say you'd bought it. Okay. And a big corporation had come around and been like, we want to build a hyatt on this exact plot of land and they offered you some money and then you were like honestly no fuck you my grandfather built this house i would support that i think that's so fun well again how much you know if they if they offer me a little bit more than i paid for it you know i would say no if they gave me
Starting point is 00:16:43 life-changing money there are other properties on the lake i just have an i have a real appreciation for stubbornness that is not harming people where no amount of money can make them not stubborn anymore kind of harming yourself i mean again i get a lot of variables in this equation but like you should have enough money that you don't you know quality of life you you should be able to afford everything you possibly need i hope you have enough money to take care of yourself and your immediate loved ones if you're returning down life-changing money for for pride yes absolutely what do you guys think of the senior bachelor finally finally the golden hour uh exciting yeah i wish we knew how old he might be a little bit boring i think it's old
Starting point is 00:17:31 old old yeah what is old old well i remember i was talking to rob mills and natalie's mom is single and total babe but she's not she's too young for them so i think they're looking for like 70s 80s older like octogenarian yeah which i think is going to be kind of endearing but i'm worried it's going to get boring i don't know i also it baffles me to think about really cute but like it'll be cute but it baffles me to think about the fact i guess there's some spicy old people but these are people that grew up in such a different dating culture. And now they're going to be thrown into this show where they're one of 30 people all vying for the attention of one man. That doesn't seem like that would be up their alley.
Starting point is 00:18:17 But do we even know if they were going to do that? We've heard of the ruthless dating culture of nursing homes. I guess. That we've heard to be true. Old people fuck. They be fucking, and it be dramatic. It be like Vanderpump level incestuous friend group. I mean, it would be so awesome if this gets messy.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Yeah. We hope not. Why do you hope not? Their blood pressure's too high. You know how every bachelor, they have a fake ambulance come in? That's literally what I was thinking. Guys. No, they can't do that because the stakes are too high. you know you know how every bachelor they have like a fake ambulance guys and now they can't do that because the stakes are too high they cannot tease us like that that would be oh my god yeah like well it's an amazing thing to think about like with the
Starting point is 00:18:58 challenges like what direction are they gonna go obstacle course there's a certain number of like like certain physical like they're not gonna have 80 year olds playing tackle football i i imagine it's gonna be a lot different the best cross stitcher wins do you think they're even gonna have group dates or shit like that i feel like it's gonna be pared down quite a bit i'm thrilled and do you think they'll have like a bachelor no they do i think it's one elder bachelor and a bunch of women no i heard it's one guy that makes sense to me because i was not verified by anybody but i did hear that i also just i feel like it's a known fact that women have a slightly longer life expectancy than men
Starting point is 00:19:37 so it means like it seems like it was very hard from well it was very hard to recruit for the show it makes sense what's your five year plan? Not dying. It makes sense that there would be maybe more women available and interested than Golden Bachelors. It's just funny how often it's like, oh, my God, like, what is this person's mother going to think watching the show? Or like sometimes people reference their mom. And it's funny to think about, like, grandma embarrassing the family. Oh, yeah. Like grandma doing some fuck shit. I'm's funny to think about like grandma embarrassing the family. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Like grandma doing some fuck shit. I'm not here to make friends. Hometowns is just the kids and the grandkids. You're here for the wrong reasons. Is Jesse hosting? I don't know. I assume so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I say give us an old person. Like who? You want an old host? Yeah. I do. Like Steve Martin. old person like who you want an old host yeah i do like steve martin well and i mean no disrespect at all to this woman if she is not in this age range but is like jennifer coolidge in her late 60s i know there's no world in which jennifer i don't think coolidge would host the senior bachelor yeah i don't i think they're just gonna stick with jesse i don't need to over complicate it she's 61 i'm so sorry jen that was disrespectful it's so disrespectful
Starting point is 00:20:50 of me excuse me um but yeah i think it will be probably very wholesome and sweet and i think it might be nice to see them navigate drama like in a more mature way well we'll definitely be watching it uh next week we have an amazing week lined up for you we have tinks coming in for ask nick so celebrity ask nick special edition with our friend of show tinks be sure to check that out on monday on tuesday we'll be recapping the finale of vanderpump rules it's going to be a wild wild wild episode. And then on Thursday's episode of Going Deeper, we have Nicole from this season's of Selling Sunset. She's one of the new kids on the block, heavily involved in all the drama. Selling Sunset drops tomorrow. I've already been watching it. It is juicy. But I think Nicole is... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I'm not saying she's like this season's Christine Quinn, but she's involved in a lot. It's Nicole versus Chrishell. Oh. How does Mary feel about that? Why? How does Chrishell always end up in the drama? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I'm curious because she really does like... I think of her as someone who's like sweet in a way that is not fake. I don't know. So how is she always so, like... I don't know. But we're going to watch. We'll find out. We'll have...
Starting point is 00:22:14 We'll ask Nicole next Thursday on Going Deeper. It's going to be a while for all you Selling Sunset fans out there. It's going to be a juicy, juicy episode. Don't forget that Vile Files Plus is dropping an update special tomorrow for all the people who love your ass, Nick, and texting office hour and sweating the wedding updates. We have a juicy one for you tomorrow. As always, our pop extra pop off all things pop culture episode also drops tomorrow on Vile Files Plus. Vile Files Plus, it's a seven-day free trial, free to sign up. It's super fun.
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Starting point is 00:28:08 an IQ bar or grab many and keep yourself nourished. Right now, get 20% off all IQ bar products plus get free shipping. To get your 20% off, just text Files, F-I-L-E-S to 64000 to get your discount. That's right. Text Files, F-I-L-E-S to 64000. That's Files to 64000. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details angela hi welcome thank you how are you how is your heart we always like to ask our guests that question it's beating it's double time because i gotta pump a lot of blood for a fetus and this fetus is pretty almost full grown what what is the appropriate questions for asking a pregnant woman? Do you get to ask them how far
Starting point is 00:28:50 along are you? At what point in the pregnancy is it safe to be like, oh, congratulations, you're pregnant? Well, I think when she says she's pregnant, then you can ask the question. Then you can ask the question. It's when you just assume and then you might put your foot in your mouth. Did you fuck with anyone who did
Starting point is 00:29:07 anyone's been okay there was whether there was no one how did you do that sorry what was your question not did you fuck anyone just did you fuck with anyone uh is that an appropriate question when he said what are the appropriate questions as a pregnant woman? Who is the father? When he said, what are the appropriate questions to ask a pregnant woman? This is not where I thought we were going. I thought it was like, how far along are you? Do you have any cravings? Who you fucking? Does your husband know?
Starting point is 00:29:37 No, early on, did anyone come up to you and congratulate you without you telling them and then you fucked with them i hear what you're saying yeah um i don't recall if i did that or not i mean i jokingly like on stage when i was doing shows i would just be like i'm so bloated right now like stuff like that but everybody already knew at that point but no i don't think i did and this is your first how's it been fun exciting um i've enjoyed it for our audience i've enjoyed it actually i know every pregnancy is different for every woman and i have friends that had horrible horrible pregnancies i mean amy schumer has a whole documentary about her horrible pregnancy
Starting point is 00:30:16 and i'm very grateful that i've had a fairly easy one and i've actually enjoyed it so i feel good i mean i'm in the home stretch now like I'm a few weeks away like it could happen right now you guys this could be an exclusive like selfishly I kind of hope like Nick would you deliver a baby if need be no I don't think that's necessary
Starting point is 00:30:37 that I would need to do that but what if you did need to but the question is do I want the water to break on the new couch or that's immediately what I thought of I was like how bad do I want the water to break on the new couch? That's immediately what I thought of. I was like, how bad do I want this to happen? He's like, new human life captured in the moment. Really like this couch. My next guest will be like, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Someone had a baby there. That would be iconic to have a birthing stain in the studio. Your mark would be forever now. I love that. Do I need to get a new couch or I just let it be part of the show? No, it's like a special seat at that point. Yeah. Just like slide over there for the next guest.
Starting point is 00:31:11 It'll be like years down the road. Like there's that one restaurant where they're like, and this is where Frank Sinatra used to sit right here. You know what I mean? This is where Angela gave birth. This went into labor. Did you do anything special for Mother's Day? We just had Mother's Day this past weekend. I did.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I had the most special Mother's Day because it was also the release of my sixth one-hour special on the same day. And it was also my birthday. So it was very busy. Wow. You had a birthday. You had- My hour special released on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And it's your first mother's day as a mother yeah yeah which part was more exciting the special the birthday or the being special the special that i've i've been waiting for this for long that we filmed it back in october at the ryman in nashville and um i've been waiting for like it to be out into the world. And so it was fine. Like I forgot it was even my birthday. I wasn't even thinking about that at all. And it was my mom was in town too. And I was,
Starting point is 00:32:12 I almost forgot to tell her happy mother's day. Cause I was just like, okay, I got a live chat with people in the comments. Oh, happy mother's day. Mom. Did it feel like mother's day for you yet?
Starting point is 00:32:21 No, no, no. I mean, I'm pregnant. I'm waddling, but maybe next year when i actually have like a baby who will probably be around one almost you know almost yeah like 11 months how does it feel to shoot something like so far in advance and then just kind of have to sit on it
Starting point is 00:32:41 do you just have to forget about it do you constantly think through things in your head up until the moments it's released well we're doing we're going through edits we're going through all kinds of stuff and i have jokes about me not wanting kids in like all of my hours special so in this one i also i have a joke where i said um because my friend moved in during covid quarantine her and her son moved in and said, we always said we didn't want kids. And then we adopted a single mom. And I'm saying that as I'm about to give birth, like that's when people are watching it, you know?
Starting point is 00:33:12 And I was like, oh, well, clearly I wrote this joke a long time ago. But it's interesting, yeah, because you film it so far in advance. And then, you know, what is still relevant at the time, you know? So it's hopefully all of it, but. So when you were joking about not wanting to be a mom, was that something that was more a joke at the time or something that you actually felt?
Starting point is 00:33:33 Oh no, I never wanted kids. Okay, what changed? COVID quarantine, all of that. It was like when we were all home doing nothing, nobody was touring, nobody was filming anything. And I actually was like, I'm OK with this. Like, I'm OK not going back on the road and not if I never book another acting gig, I'm OK. Like and my career was always my baby. That was always the thing that I put first
Starting point is 00:33:59 in my life. And so when I was at this place where I was like, I'm OK without it, then I was like, oh, man, did I mess up? Should I have had kids? You know what I mean? Because all my friends would always tell me, oh, the most fulfilling thing is like having kids. And I'm like, are you sure? Have you ever been on a sitcom? You know what I mean? It's pretty great. Yeah. You know, craft service. Are you familiar? So that's when I started looking into it. And at that point I was 38 because I was like, I don't even know if I have options. I don't know if I have eggs left. I don't know anything because I never looked into it because I never wanted kids. And that's when I started looking into it and realizing I had very minimal options. And it was a whole journey from
Starting point is 00:34:40 there. And here I am. What were some things that you learned, both good and bad, especially as someone who got pregnant later into their 30s? I know we hear a lot about it's harder when you get older. Anything to share with the audience for people who might be in your position who have thought, I didn't want to have kids and now they're in their early to mid 30s or maybe they finally found someone they're happy with and they want to have kids and now they're in their early to mid thirties or maybe they finally found someone they're happy with and they want to have kids with. What's that experience been like and anything that you could share about that experience that you had that might be helpful to someone else? Anything I could share about being a geriatric pregnancy.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Basically, yeah. That's what they, well, not even literally. Have they changed that yet? It seems offensive. And 35 is the cutoff, right? Yeah. Yeah. 35. Because I knew a woman who
Starting point is 00:35:26 was like 36 and she said i'm geriatric now yeah isn't that crazy maybe like ripe well there are other names that would be better than geriatric they changed it now i don't know financially stable but yeah emotionally mature you know we're being pregnant is now a positive thing yeah exactly not an oh shit yeah exactly i would say anybody out there who if you're even not even if you're considering it just like check if you have eggs like see what your situation is save your eggs if you can it's a very expensive process and it's hard on your body and not everyone can go through it because some people can't handle the hormones and and all of that but if you can save your eggs i would at least start there so you can give yourself some options for later on if you do decide because that's where i
Starting point is 00:36:17 wish i would have saved my eggs earlier because i started at like 38 39 and they're like okay you got two and i was like oh that's it. Are you sure? Because I feel real young. Are you sure? Everybody tells me I look so young. They're like, yeah, maybe on the outside, your insides, geriatric, full on. So I would say, yeah, start early saving your eggs if that's what you want. Because then once you get to geriatric pregnancy, then you have lots of concerns. Like one, will I have an ugly baby? Like, you know what I mean? Like there's just really important things. Natalie and I were talking about that the other day, you know?
Starting point is 00:36:48 Ugly babies? Yeah. Like I was like, I don't know. I don't know if we necessarily will have a good looking kid. Do you think- I'm worried about my side. Do you think that all babies are beautiful? Some people think all babies-
Starting point is 00:36:59 Okay. Absolutely not. Me either. Yeah. Yeah. I'm definitely not one of those. Like you. Yuck.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Yeah. I've seen some ugly babies. Yeah, I'm definitely not one of those. Like you. Yuck. Yeah. I've seen some ugly babies. Yeah. I've seen some real ugly babies. I would never like say it. You know what I mean? I'm not that person. I wouldn't say it, but what I wouldn't do is I wouldn't, I would just be like, cute.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I'd be like real passive about it. I would do all of the- I would be like, oh my God, the most beautiful baby. I'd be like real passive about it like i would do all i would be like oh my god the most beautiful baby i'd be like yeah i wouldn't say the words but i would do all of the sounds yeah like i would do all those look you think that i'm saying do you think you will be honest about your baby's looks so that's the thing I hope that I won't be blinded by love you know
Starting point is 00:37:50 what I mean I could I could be blinded by love and be like oh my god she's the most beautiful thing and then all my friends are like mm-hmm you know I just that's what I need is honest friends but I feel like you need to let the baby marinate almost you know it's a little squished at first you gotta grow into in their face.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Might give it a year, you know? Because also, ugly baby doesn't mean good looking kid. No, it does not. Yeah. I've seen some like beautiful babies and then they grow up and then by the time they're 16,
Starting point is 00:38:17 they're already like balding. Their skin is falling off. And you're like, wait, what? Is it gluten? Should we cut out gluten? Like what's happening here? You know,
Starting point is 00:38:23 like you had so much potential in like your first six months. But cute babies do not guarantee anything. I've seen ugly babies grow into very beautiful people. Yeah. So you never know. We love a comeback. And you're married?
Starting point is 00:38:40 I am married. How has your husband been during the pregnancy? Very, he's very like um logical so i'm like emotional feeling all the things and he's like okay moving all the finances around and like making sure like he's very in that brain so i think he's in for an awakening once this baby actually comes and what how so like emotionally because you can't think through a baby like he's he's very much a thinker he's like summa cum laude brain you know what i mean and you can't think through the uh motion of a newborn like you gotta just feel that
Starting point is 00:39:18 have you guys discussed like uh who's waking up in the middle of night like parenting the rotation early on? Or is that something you guys are going to figure out on the fly? Well, he's already said, don't wake me up. Okay. And are you going to listen? Ha ha ha. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:33 You're like, after I push them out of my body, you're like, nope, that's on you. Sure. Yeah. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Yeah. No, but we do have help. But I think he thinks the help means it's taken care of. There's another reason why I think he's in for an awakening.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Because like, yeah, we do have help. There's going to be somebody helping us. But you still are a part of it. Did your husband get you anything for Mother's Day? No, he didn't. What? Rude. Let's call him.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Should we? Speakerphone. Is, he didn't. What? Rude. Let's call him. Should we? Speakerphone. Is he friends with Chris Pratt? No. Why? He doesn't do Mother's Day gifts or anything? Well, he did a Happy Mother's Day to his now wife, Katherine Schwarzenegger. Katherine Schwarzenegger. But his ex-wife, Anna Faris,
Starting point is 00:40:21 who he has a child with, was not mentioned in said Happy Mother's Day post. And some of the internet had a bit of a problem with that. Yeah, I can also read the exact caption because I do think the phrasing
Starting point is 00:40:38 is pretty... Okay, let's hear it. So, Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there. Okay, so Anna's included. Right there. That's what he said. But, especially grateful today for Catherine. You're a wonderful partner. You've provided me such a blessed life.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Our two daughters are so lucky to have you and you're the best step-mama to Jack. Oh, so he even brought in the step-mom card but doesn't name mama. Well, all mothers. No, Nick. And then he then goes on.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I don't know. It's his ex-wife. To name his mom, which, you know, totally valid. And then he also talks about Mama G, his new mother-in-law. What do you say about his mom? She provided such love, light, and laughter. And then what about Mama G? Lucky to have you as a mother-in-law.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Okay. Everyone's getting mentioned. I'm not familiar with, do they not get along? Like, is it public info that they don't get along or something? I feel like it's unclear, but I've heard rumors that, like, they're not, like, best friends. But they're exes. I feel like there could be just an honorable mention of you're raising my child. You know what I mean? Like, you're mention of your raising my child. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:46 Like you're still a mom to my child. Thank you. Anna for an honorable mention would have been nice. Do you think Catherine had anything to do with it? Because I feel like sometimes when it comes to exes, our current partners will play a strong role. I have found that in my relationships that I am far more indifferent about my exes than some of my current partners have been about my exes.
Starting point is 00:42:15 And so it was more of a self-preservation situation rather than, it was like, do I want the internet mad at me? Or my girlfriend? Right. I'll take the internet for 500. I'm going to say that either maybe the wife had something to do with it, or he just wasn't thinking about it. I don't think he maliciously left her out. Unless he knows wifey gets a type of way if she's mentioned then he probably did purposely
Starting point is 00:42:47 leave her out but I could imagine him just being like oh forgot whoops my bad I don't know if he forgot though really guys are dumb sometimes they are no offense no no done taken I don't know because he mentioned Jack so he didn't forget about the kid right and to say that she's a great step his current life is a great stepmom when you're typing out a caption it take you know a lot of thumb action you have time for it to cross your brain he did i have a hard time imagining that anna didn't cross his mind when he said j-a-c-k yeah yeah your mom's cool too jack you know right i think all the mothers out there he was like trying to do like a blanket statement to avoid all of this by saying like well
Starting point is 00:43:43 in his defense though i do think there's kind of a no-win situation because anytime you want to get sentimental about an ex then that's open for criticism sure as well i think one thing that cannot be criticized is just gratitude yeah true thank you and co-parenting thank you there you go it is so impressive when people co-parent i think it requires like such a high level of emotional maturity in such a heated situation. Yes. So gratitude and co-parenting. Two winners.
Starting point is 00:44:10 So is Chris Pratt an asshole or is he not an asshole? Well, I don't know enough about him to make that assessment. Not like as a core, but just in this particular situation. I would say in this particular situation, he definitely should have mentioned the ex, at least in an honorable mention. I feel like Catherine had something to do with it. Interesting. What if he just tagged Anna in the post,
Starting point is 00:44:37 didn't mention her? To all the mothers. Just do a tag. You're in there, babe. Don't worry. It's like a picture of his son in the top right corner there's just the tag of just her name yeah but the tag's behind katherine's there's something on the story who knows oh yeah she gets a story but the other ones get a grid yeah it is a difference i do think that's a good
Starting point is 00:45:05 point though that like in a current relationship like the way x's are handled should probably be determined by the comfort of a current partner but i always feel weird about bringing it up if i like i ran into someone who would like see you know it was very much over but like chatted for a bit and i was like i feel like i want to mention this to my boyfriend just to like disclose not that anything happened but like it's one of those things where it's like, I feel weird about bringing it up, and I also feel weird about it coming up later. What is your
Starting point is 00:45:31 policy when it comes to communicating with a partner? Do you err on the side of over-communicating, under-communicating? If you run into someone you hooked up with? I think we don't care, both of us. Do you want to know? If you walk into a room and let's say there's a woman there that your husband
Starting point is 00:45:50 had sex with years ago. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Do you want the heads up knowing that he did? Not that he cares or anything, but like on the off chance you might have a conversation with this woman and she knows that she had sex with your husband but you have no idea do you want to be in the know or do you want to be oblivious i think i would want
Starting point is 00:46:10 to be in the know but i feel like my husband's the type of guy that one we're very honest with each other but also he we don't like care about things like if we were to walk in a room and he would see something he'd be like oh i hooked up with that a room and he would see something, he'd be like, oh, I hooked up with that chick. I think he would say something like that. Yeah. And I'd be like, oh, which one? And I'd be like, ew. Ew. We're not really jealous.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Well, imagine going on tour, both you going on tour and him going on tour. How do you navigate that in terms of keeping your cool? Especially when we have Scandival when like you know we have like scandal on the news and we have all these incidents of like what feels like total blind sides of infidelity yeah infidelity and people just like doing so wrong by their partners like how do you spend a lot of time with someone you know whether it's on the road or working together or being friends it's just like one of those things if you're around someone that you're physically attracted to it can lead to totally and we've discussed that too that we're not immune to any
Starting point is 00:47:10 of those things so like what there's two things to say one thing that we'll do if we spend a lot of time apart from each other like we're both like what i'm touring he doesn't really tour anymore but um when we were both touring, one of our things that we would do is it's like an intimacy game. Like, how do you stay intimate while you're apart from each other? And a therapist taught us this early on in our marriage, like in our first year of marriage. We're going on 12 years. And it's basically you ask your partner, what is something that you thought today that you wouldn't have told me if I didn't just ask you? Great question.
Starting point is 00:47:48 And it's basically we think so many thoughts throughout our day that we don't actually share out loud. Like there's thousands of thoughts that go through our mind that we don't share out loud. But if you take a moment to think about what is something that you were thinking that you wouldn't have actually said it out loud. But here you are creating this now intimate space. And I'm letting you see into me to continue this intimacy, even though you're 5000 miles away from me. So that's one thing that we would do to practice staying close. Otherwise, our conversations would be how is your show good? How is yours good? OK, I'm tired. Me too. Okay, bye. And there's no connection in that. There's no substance in that. So that was one of our tools that we used when we were apart from each other. We're very honest
Starting point is 00:48:37 with each other too. And you have to be secure in yourself to be able to hear your partner's honest thoughts about everything from whether it be their insecurities to they saw somebody that was hot today at the gym or whatever it was. Would that be a thought that one of you might share with each other? Like, oh, I saw someone I kind of thought they were hot. Oh, yeah. Like my husband, he goes to the gym every day and he'll be like babe there's this girl at the gym today like she knew what she was doing she she'd be out here in these instagram outfits and just fly and we've joked about how like beyonce let me upgrade you remember that song like i would sing that to my husband because I upgraded my husband. And he's like, man, if I were to go back on the market now, now that I've like upgraded his life and he has like all the tools, he has like his fancy cars and everything.
Starting point is 00:49:33 He'd be like, bro, I don't know what I do out there now that he has like all the things that girls would want. But like we're just honest with each other about those things but he's also very honest in the fact he's like but i can't be a hoe like i don't have it in me to hoe it out like i'm too invested like he falls in love he's very he watches all the romantic movies romantic comedy i'm watching the action dramas and then he's watching like hallmark romantic how did you two meet mutual friends okay like was it like a blip a hookup like a not a hookup but a setup yeah i saw him at their wedding a long time ago and i was like oh he's hot but nobody introduced me to him and i wasn't gonna introduce myself so i was like oh well you snooze you lose and then i left i didn't meet him
Starting point is 00:50:23 i just saw him and then i went and i cyber stalked him on the internet after that as one does yeah yeah and i looked up everything about him i found out he was in music he was in a band blah blah blah and i was like very confident in myself and i was like oh well you missed out sir and i did not message him or anything i didn't try to like reach out i was just like snooze you lose bye two years went by and then my friend texted me out of the blue and she was like i want to hook you up with somebody i was like who she's like look him up i don't know if he's your type his name is manuel reyes and then as soon as she said his name like all my research came flooding back to me and i was like you're like he went to the bahamas in 2007 sherlock hol. Yeah, exactly. I was like, okay, I'll look him up.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I never told her that I already did. I was just like, okay, I'll check. What did you tell him? I eventually told them and the whole story to the world, but not until he was like, lockdown, lockdown. So listen, I used to stalk you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was my homepage.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I had you as my lock screen. There was a shrine. Don't worry, you, yeah. It was my homepage. I had you as my lock screen. There was a shrine. Don't worry, you're safe. Yeah, well, and then I told a joke about that. My last hour was called technically not stalking because I stalk my husband. But technically it's not stalking because he is my husband.
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Starting point is 00:52:29 die for and Vox adding that it should be your new reality TV obsession. We are certainly obsessed. Stream every episode of Traders Now only on Peacock. Ladies and gentlemen. What are you doing? What do you mean? Just keep it simple. I'm making making it. Just keep it simple.
Starting point is 00:52:46 I'm making the promo. Just keep it simple. Just say, hey, we're the Brav Bros. Two guys that talk about Bravo. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, we're the Brav Bros. No. Oh. Dude, stop with the voice.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Just keep it simple. I've seen promos on TV, dude. This is how you get the fans engaged. This is how you get listeners. We're trying to get listeners here. If we just say, oh, we're two dudes that talk about Bravo, people are gonna get tired of it already. We need some oomph. All right, then fine. Let's try to do it with your voice. Bravo bros. Good job. Were you nervous when you were deciding to get pregnant? Was that something that was kind of nerve wracking? Did you, you know, did I'm sure you heard you had friends,
Starting point is 00:53:25 sons of good friends who had pregnant before you and they had their stories. Was that something that kind of gave you anxiety or, or was that something once you started, like once you decided you wanted to have a kid, you were super excited, jacked up and gung ho about it. To be honest, I had to work through a lot of shame because for a long time I said I didn't want kids and that was my honest thought and so the fact that I was changing my mind I felt like I was betraying myself almost and um I had to like really work through that and let myself know that it was okay to change your mind it took me a while to get to that place. Like it was something that I secretly like wanted, but I wouldn't say out loud because I felt like ashamed. Like yourself or did you feel like you'd have to explain yourself to people or your kid one day?
Starting point is 00:54:16 To myself. Like I felt like I was betraying myself. Like for the longest time I was like, no girl, we got dreams, we got goals. You know, like my career was always my goal and my number one thing. And kids felt like a consolation prize to me. Like if I ever had kids and that meant I didn't get my dream, like that's what that meant to me. How has your perspective changed now? I mean, you're still out here. You're promoting your career. You dropped a special.
Starting point is 00:54:41 You're about to have a baby. I'm assuming you're still planning on investing in your career? Yeah, it's crazy. Definitely. And people have told me like, you know, with babies come blessings. And when I first started telling people I was pregnant, a good friend of mine was like, you know, there's an old Mexican saying that babies come with a loaf of bread under their arms, meaning like come with blessings and as soon as i got pregnant i started getting like offers for things like i just finished a movie with eddie murphy and um they just offered me a role in this movie and like here i am like auditioning and trying to like book stuff and it's just like no sorry we went
Starting point is 00:55:26 in another direction and then I get pregnant and then they're like hey do you want to be in this movie with Eddie Murphy hey do you want to do this and that hey we have this you know deal for like all these things started happening and I was like whoa like I am so busy I'm the busiest I've been in a long time now that I'm pregnant like Like now that I'm exhausted, now everybody wants to call me. You know what I mean? It usually happens that way. Not that I know anything about being pregnant. Next, like my last pregnancy, the offers were flooding in.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I was texting with someone about coming on the show and she's like, oh, I just had a baby. And, you know, she was like, I'm just so I've been so busy. I just had a baby. And I wrote back, totally get it. And then I was like, I mean, not about the baby, but totally get it about being busy part. But yeah, it was easy to put my. So I'm definitely still going to be investing in my career even more so now that my career is not my number one. It's kind of just like a bonus.
Starting point is 00:56:25 It almost brings the joy back into it and takes pressure off because, yeah, I do want these things. I do want success, but it's not my... Yeah, they always say how casting directors kind of like people
Starting point is 00:56:36 who don't seem to need or want the job. Right. It's just like, whatever. I just play this role for fun. So there you go. Maybe you have that energy of just not caring or needing it. Yeah, just leave they're like wait what we want her it feels like it's so
Starting point is 00:56:51 exciting because you know like comedians like ali wong like have done you know we've had so many more like female comedians both like being pregnant and then talking about like motherhood and it's such a rich topic or it's so funny there's so much to say like yeah how do you kind of navigate talking about something that, you know, is going to be so tender and close to your heart? Like kind of because Haley Bieber was like, you know, in the news recently for just talking of being very candid about how she's scared of having kids, just seeing the way that people online feel comfortable talking about her and treating her.
Starting point is 00:57:18 And I think especially with comedians when it's like, oh, it's not even even though it's very personal. It's your work that I'm talking. Not even her to like there's a lot of mom shamers out there totally a lot of moms who are willing to give their opinion to other moms about how they should parent their kids and if they do anything you know different than what they have been told or think is safe or right they will tell you totally i mean especially in the age of social media where everybody's opinion is magnified. It's in the mom world. It's in, you know, every every aspect there's people have their opinion that can now be magnified because of social media. was constantly being thrown darts at. You know what I mean? Like, I would be scared too. But as far as me writing material, I have always shared my life with people in the capacity that I'm
Starting point is 00:58:13 comfortable. So I let people in up to a certain point. And I'll talk about my marriage. I'll talk about my relationship with my sister. I'll talk about my relationship, my brothers with my mom, with my dad. And I've always shared my life with people. So I'll talk about my relationship, my brothers, with my mom, with my dad. And I've always shared my life with people. So I feel like this is just another aspect that I'll be sharing with people to the point that I am comfortable. How do you feel about kids on social media? I think some people in the spotlight, especially if they have a social media platform, well, you know, post pictures of their kids and the pregnancy and the delivery and the first birthdays.
Starting point is 00:58:50 And then other celebrities are more like, nope, I don't post my kids. And some celebrities do the whole, like, I'm going to post a kid and put like an emoji on their face. Where do you fall on the spectrum of posting about your kids? I think I'm definitely gonna post my kid. Okay. Like, I post too much of my life to all of a sudden... Like, I'm in all want to...
Starting point is 00:59:11 If my kid is doing something so adorable, I'm gonna record it, and I'm gonna show the world. And be like, oh my God, look at her breathe, you guys. Like, is this not the best? I mean, I just think about how much I post my dog on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:59:27 And I can't imagine being able to hold within me if my daughter does something cute. Now, will I create her own brand and have her own page? Does she have her own Instagram page? I mean, my dog does. Your dog does. My dog has like 17,000 followers. He's very popular on Instagram. I had so many high hopes for Jeff's Instagram page
Starting point is 00:59:50 and I just gave up on it real quick. You've never posted on it. We need to talk about that. A lot of people fall off the map with pet Instagrams. You know, they get really going six months in and then... I had this whole idea of like having this persona that like he hated me on his instagram you know where i'd be posting like cute pictures but his you know instagram would be like him trolling me and making
Starting point is 01:00:13 fun of me but it takes effort it does yeah i don't care i kind of gave up on my dog's instagram page as well i'll post like every now and then 17 000 followers though yeah well because i used to post a lot okay and he had a persona that he was like very hood he was like because i adopted him he came from a shelter in south central so i kept that persona and he was like this little hood dog but really he's like the sweetest like he doesn't have an ounce of hood in him. But his persona in the beginning was very like, I was up a, you know what I mean? He was very that dog in the captions. But no, he's just the sweetest thing ever.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Do you listen or follow Taylor Swift at all? I listen to Taylor Swift. I don't. Have you heard anything about her new man? No. Didn't she just break up with somebody she did but now she's apparently dating the singer of 1975 1975 1975 who I'm just a band the only thing I know about him is that he makes out with his fans yes like Elvis style
Starting point is 01:01:20 yeah stop have you show her the videos it's in the age of covid i'm shocked stop i know he walks into the crowd like he's like it seems intoxicated and he just starts making out with he's not on a good trajectory i'm just shocked that taylor's is now dating him oh he that's a fan he just got on stage? Is he pulling her hair? What's happening? Oh. It was like her first kiss
Starting point is 01:01:49 and then he goes into a crowd and starts like kissing all of them. I think she came on stage. I think he asked about kissing. To be sang to. But it looked like he was like making that happen. I think it's his thing.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Oof. Do you have the crowd? One in the crowd? Oh, even the guys do? You see? Yeah, you see yeah he's no so many he kisses so many oh he doesn't care he just kisses everybody he kissed a guy too yeah he's kissing everybody equal opportunity kisser why is it as do we know why that's his thing i kind of like it i'll be honest um hot like i wouldn't do it especially in the age of the next special you're just like all right you're up but yeah but as we're like scrolling through all these photos of these equal opportunity
Starting point is 01:02:31 kisses i'm kind of like good for you like it does give me a little bit of like elvisy like yeah but if i was taylor swift i'd be no. But he's actually stopped doing it recently. So that's what people are thinking. Oh, no, I don't want to date him. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But I'm like, good for you. But also, no.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Do we know why that's his thing? Like, why is that a thing he does? It feels very like Rockstar. He saw the Elvis movie. Yeah, literally. Yeah, literally. If he can get away with it. He saw the Elvis movie and was very inspired.
Starting point is 01:03:01 In a different way than the rest of us are. I just wouldn't want to make out with that many strangers. I don't know. He also, he sucked a thumb. No, no, no. No sucking. No. You're asking for all the germs.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Is he doing tongue kisses? So basically he's just like a rock star who's like loves truth or dare, but loves a good dare. Or he's like, I'll suck your thumb or I'll make out with look at this oh my god gross so that's Taylor Swift's new boyfriend uh huh how do we know this because he's been starting to go to all of her shows they actually had a thing about a decade ago
Starting point is 01:03:35 yeah and so now he's back in the picture so I think that's why I think two two parters of why she's moved on so fast one all of her friends have been unfollowing Joe which makes people think that maybe he did something like there's some bad blood if you
Starting point is 01:03:51 will pun intended and so if you're more easy to move on if someone does something to you and also as someone you have history with okay one more question about the kisses before we move on are these like tongue kisses he does or like european besos i mean he sucked a thumb that that part's disgusting but
Starting point is 01:04:11 yeah i mean they look intimate it looks they look wet they're definitely wet kisses i don't know if it's sweat if it's saliva there's a pucker for sure i don't know i mean these this is like a three-stage photo he was with this guy for a while. It's like a stop motion. A three-stage photo. This wasn't like a, mwah, mwah, bizu. This was a,
Starting point is 01:04:31 ooh. Bizu. Bizu, bizu. Bizu. I wonder if, because he clearly looks intoxicated in all these things, I wonder if the fan who is kissing him
Starting point is 01:04:44 can smell his intoxicated breath because intoxicated in all these things. I wonder if the fan who's kissing him can smell his intoxicated breath. Because intoxicated breath is disgusting. Yeah, white wine breath. Biggest ick. Alcohol breath. Smoke breath. Weed breath. Worst.
Starting point is 01:04:59 And he's at a concert, so all these people have all of those. And also he's been singing a concert, so all these people have all of those. Oh, and sweaty. And also he's been singing a lot, so he has like cotton mouth breath too, to add to that. Oh God. What if he has nasty breath? So he's going around and everyone who kisses him is like, I mean, it was cool, but like his breath is fucking rotten. It kind of has to be, right?
Starting point is 01:05:20 There's no way it's fresh. Maybe he's like a Listerine like strips guy. Interesting. But do you think he's that conscious listerine like strips guy but do you think he's that conscious if he's intoxicated about like oh you know what i mean i don't think well and unless there's a real good production manager off to the side that's like and listerine strip go it just feels like he probably has a decent sized ego if he's going around and just assuming everybody wants to kiss him so i don't think he'd be that considerate when it comes to my breath i don't care about you i care about what you think of me yeah yeah that's true i mean like it's more i mean if being honest i'm more thinking
Starting point is 01:05:54 about me when i'm worried about my breath because it's very fleeting to smell bad breath but to know someone had bad breath is forever it's the ick of all icks for me and so i don't want to have anyone think that of of me so yeah my breath is a favor to myself i always like when i do meet and greets uh i have listerine on my um my writer that full-on listerine like i i rinse my mouth out i try to do everything i can because especially after you've been talking on stage for like an hour like you have that talky mouth breath so i'm like let me just get a little bit fresh something going on and there's different kinds of bad breath you know like there's the bad breath that's just like somebody ate something bad and it's in their mouth and you just put a
Starting point is 01:06:42 piece of gum in there and there's the bad breath that comes from like the inside where like you're dying inside you know what i mean gum is not going to help this breath because you put gum it's just going to come out the nose you know what i mean like when bad breath comes out the nose then that's when it's like there's a whole you need yeah any type of gum doesn't work with smoke or anything like that yeah it just adds to the musk it's just like a layer yeah smells on top yeah yeah it's like spraying cologne in a dumpster yeah no yeah or like a smoker who's just like did the victoria's secret spray yeah you know what i mean you're like stop yeah would you ever tell someone if their breath was bad because it feels so hard to like very hard
Starting point is 01:07:25 to bring up in a kind way i'd like nally and i do we're pretty honest we're in a relationship oh with your partner yes oh definitely it's like yeah go uh go freshen that breath i oh i tell my husband i'll be like did you eat onions today or i'll tell him this one i'll be like did you eat onions yesterday because that's usually when i don't smell like right away i'll smell it the next day and i'll be like you had onions yesterday don't talk to me but have you ever told a date prior back in the day or like a co-worker i mean makeup artists sometimes um oh yeah and they're so close um i have a friend who's done my makeup a few times, and I'm very honest with her, and I'll be like,
Starting point is 01:08:06 hey, do you got like mint or anything? Can you? Not for me. Pop one in? Thank you. I told the guy yesterday that his fly was down. That's different. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:08:18 It's different, but also that is another hard one to do. He was just walking on Larchmont, and we were having lunch, and I just said, buddy he's like yeah it's kind of something your teeth oh yeah yeah you tell me Nick tells me anyone if I always
Starting point is 01:08:34 tell if somebody tells someone I'm always your flies down but have you have you ever told somebody that they have something in their teeth but it's not it's just like they have like a gap a gap and it's dark and it looked like they had something and you're like oh no you just have yeah i have to make sure it has to either be like green or in the on top of the tooth or something yeah yeah i've made that mistake i
Starting point is 01:08:55 had like a similar situation where is a girl in high school had like a like a big like abscess kind of thing on her and i thought it was just like a little bit of dirt from the shadow and i was like oh you have a little something and then i tried to play it off and it was so obvious what was happening and she was like you mean like the whatever like medical term for something she's like do you mean that and i was like no no no there's like a little it flew away it's fine with a boil on my neck. It felt so bad. No, it's gone. You got it. You got it.
Starting point is 01:09:26 You got it. Oh, I have a question for you. It's been an ongoing discussion on this show. Who pumps your gas if you're in the car and you're driving? You or your husband? My husband. I expect him to pump my gas even if he doesn't drive my car. Yeah. I'll be like, babe, I have no gas left.
Starting point is 01:09:44 And he's like, well, you're the one driving your car. I'm like, yeah, I need you to put gas in my car yeah i'll be like exactly babe i have like no gas left and he's like well you're the one driving your car i'm like yeah i need you to put gas in my car oh so he goes and takes the car yeah okay yeah nick is even saying like if you're driving and you pull up to a gas station does he jump out oh yeah yeah well one he don't let me drive if we're in the car together he always drives now in los angeles i have an electric car so we just charge it um but we just had the same kind of conversation was just yesterday because we were going somewhere he's like babe you only have 30 miles left on your car and i was like yeah because you haven't plugged it in even though it's just right here at the house you're like come on babe why are you looking at me i i said that i
Starting point is 01:10:21 don't i don't think i think men should be always pumping gas it's like the one chivalry thing that is like you you have to do like you know the opening the doors sometimes it's just like okay babe you you can i guess you can open i don't always run to the other side of the car but i don't think anyone thing maybe maybe it's a midwest thing i don't know i just think it's nuts that any guy who's dating a woman would sit in a car while their girlfriend got out and pumped the gas. It just drives. I agree with you on that one.
Starting point is 01:10:53 I can't fathom that. I agree with you on that one. I just think if your guy's not willing to pump your gas, there's so many other things he's not willing to do. I hear that. I feel like the litmus test for chivalry is if they give you their coat when you're cold, especially if it's like a night out formal wear situation where it's like you were forced to wear
Starting point is 01:11:10 like a little silk dress or something. I feel like that's kind of like my baseline for like if they're not going to do that, they're probably not going to do other things. Have you ever had a guy refuse to do that? Or not offer? Like while you shivered? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I don't recall that. you have no i hate him or like been very reluctant about it in a way where i'm like that's almost even worse than that i don't know this but we're done that's worse than not offering because you could like maybe he's absent-minded right not thinking about it but to ask for the coat or for him to like begrudgingly see you shivering and go. To consider it. Yes. Do you want my coat? He's making a pros and cons list in his head.
Starting point is 01:11:50 And I'm like, sir. That's even worse. That's even worse. Yeah. Ended a situation ship. So Kim Kardashian and Tom Brady are hanging out. Whoa. They're in talks.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Or I guess. Of course they are. Their teams are talking. They're in negotiations right now guess of course their teams are talking their negotiations right now that's what it sounds like i don't i don't take anything i don't take any dating rumor from the kardashian seriously no you're very negative when it comes to them not negative just like pr even jaded i'm just like kendall hanging out with bad bunny she looks like she hates him yeah people have been analyzing her body language a lot and they were at a basketball
Starting point is 01:12:30 game together and he's and he's leaning in so if Amanda's bad bunny and she literally was like with her mark no maybe not historically her type she went from six four NBA all-star to not 6'4 musician.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Very talented. You know, I think the biggest artist in the world right now. But I think she hates him. She looks like she hates him. They were riding a horse together, though. Really? The same horse. That's a bachelor date.
Starting point is 01:13:02 That's a photo op. Yeah, that's a photo op. Never would I ever get on the same horse as somebody else. I'd be like, fuck no. Get your own. Pete Davidson was kind of, you know, got this reputation of being like the, you know, everyone's rebound, so to speak.
Starting point is 01:13:18 But I feel like kind of Kim Kardashian's like the woman version of that. She's become like any major male celebrity who's recently single is being attached to like possibly dating Kim Kardashian. And it just feels like a PR opportunity. Kim was in my dream last night. What? What did she do?
Starting point is 01:13:36 Was she dating Tom Brady? No. She was in my dream, but it's still kind of about me. she was in my dream but it's still kind of about me uh i dreamed that she posted on instagram that she was watching my new special huge she was watching my new special with her family they were all on the couch watching it and she was like showing on instagram that how much they loved it and stuff and i was like oh my god and i woke up this morning i checked my instagram but it was just a dream because it was so grounded too like it was a very like realistic way of her appreciating you came if you're out there
Starting point is 01:14:17 check out the special please share on social media i think you might enjoy it i think my my dreams her and tom can watch it together. Yeah. A little date night. Well, Tom allegedly wanted to get into stand-up at some point. I feel like you must... There it is.
Starting point is 01:14:33 ...hear this more than any... than like 99.99%... I think I'm doing stand-up. I've thought about doing stand-up. Yeah, be like, oh yeah, you know, I actually... I've always wanted to...
Starting point is 01:14:40 People always tell me I should do stand-up. Do people say that to you? No, I think people would be embarrassed. That's awesome. The thing that I get the most is somebody will say something dumb not even remotely funny and then they'll go don't put me in your act now oh that's the word don't flatter yourself that's the one that i get that's the one that oh great now you're gonna talk about me in your show. Like, no. No.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Oh, my God. Yeah. I get that more so. I was just in Vegas and we're, you know, you meet some of the worst people in Vegas. Not the worst people, but annoying men. Interesting. We were walking with these guys and my sister and I were at the front. And my sister actually said something that was really, really funny. And I felt like i literally
Starting point is 01:15:26 fell over and we're like squatting on the ground because we were laughing so hard and one of the guys was like so you thought that was funny right because he had said something and i was like what did you even say and he goes i i'd said look the sisters are together he had to repeat his joke and i was like that wasn't a joke though like you were just observing we hate him if you gotta repeat the joke and it turns out it wasn't even a joke
Starting point is 01:15:52 it was just pointing something out he's like I'm an observational comic that's not what that means sir he's like I'm a big fan of Jerry Seinfeld no much life gross probably has stinky breath Martha Stewart crushing Sports Illustrated
Starting point is 01:16:08 I love her oh I have a crush on Martha Stewart I've been following Martha Stewart on Instagram for a long time and she'd be posting her selfies in the pool it's just like shoulders up but you can tell she's just like in the pool and I'm like Martha stop
Starting point is 01:16:22 what are you doing to us is oh she's beautiful i just i don't know i like i like that she's beautiful but also i'm sure she sure she probably gets you know some work done but not to the point where it's like you're trying to be in your 30s like she's in her 80s but she's maybe look 60s right but i love that i give us wrinkles girl give us grays give us all of that and give us sexy like that's what we need to see is older women being beautiful so it's not so scary when we start getting those things when we start getting the wrinkles we start getting the grays it's not as scary because we see the martha stewarts we see the older women who are out here just like so hot and we're like yes i'm gonna be 80 like you you see j-lo in her new movie oh she's mother yeah i mean the movie you know but i love her she looked she did as a 50 year old
Starting point is 01:17:24 action figure off that first time and she had all those, like, shoulder neck muscles. She looks incredible. It's unbelievable. 50-something years old. It's true. Do you think Martha Stewart... 81 years old.
Starting point is 01:17:34 She's led... I don't know her whole biography. I don't know her... But she seems like she lived a full life. Do you think, at this point in 81, going to jail is, like, something that she thinks is kind of a cool story to tell? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:50 You know? I mean, now that she's out. Now that she's out. I don't know. She was in for like, what, a year, year and a half? Yeah. But it's kind of bonkers that she, Martha Stewart went to jail.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Five month prison sentence. Five months, okay. Insider trading. Wild. That was kind of a crock. Order what it was like in there. Like, for her. Five months. Insider trading. Wild. That was kind of a crock. Order what it was like in there. Like for her. I know.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Federal prison. Was she like the kingpin? You know what I mean? Like was she like the mama hen? Did she beg for people? Yeah. Did she put on like tutorials? It was a life experience.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Yes. I mean, I hopefully, I don't, hopefully it wasn't, there was no trauma. She's like, I've traveled the world. Yeah. I've started businesses. What haven't I done? I haven't was no trauma. I've traveled the world. I've started businesses. I haven't gone to jail. I've gone to prison. Snoop Dogg. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:30 She and Snoop are one of my favorite duos, I think. Yeah. No, every, yeah. It's so silly, but I love it. Yeah. If you were going to have like an odd couple friendship, who would you want? Like someone who would just appear very, very different from you.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. That's a good question. I don't know. I would have to really think this one through. I mean, Martha Stewart, that would be great, but I'm not as opposite as Snoop Dogg. You know what I mean, from Martha Stewart. I don't know, that's a good question.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Who'd be your odd bestie? I don't know why, Angela, I'm getting like joe biden for you i just feel like you two would be an interesting duo he's kind of funny i mean i just think of someone like opposite of angela like do you remember back in the day when i think it was when obama was first leaving and all those memes that were coming out of them being besties. Yes. Like with the ice cream cones.
Starting point is 01:19:28 They made him real funny. And I was like, I could be friends with Joe Biden. But it's really whoever wrote this meme. I could be friends with. Who could I be friends with? Well, I feel like. Kris Jenner. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Oh, my God. Yeah. I would fight you for that one, though. I would lay down my life for Kris Jenner. Yeah. Oh my God, yeah. I would fight you for that one though. I would lay down my life for Chris Jenner. Probably. You would. But that wouldn't be as odd for you. That'd be more like mentor, mentee.
Starting point is 01:19:52 It'd work well for you. Game recognizes game. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah, I feel like you would, maybe you with someone who's like very, very loud and like very gregarious and out there. Like a rock star.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Oh the guy who's just kissing people. Yeah. Matt Healy. Matt Healy. I don't want to be friends with him. No I want to watch
Starting point is 01:20:11 you drink a martini with Chris. I was going to say maybe Jack Black. Okay. Like you would like barbecue for you or something.
Starting point is 01:20:19 I don't know. I'd be friends with Jack Black. Yeah. Maybe someone British. I don't know. I was like Rebel Wilson.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Oh. I don't know much about her but sure she's fun she's got an accent yeah she got married a lovely lady i think yeah i'd love to be friends with rebel yeah they're married mm-hmm yeah really yeah recently yeah good for her yeah newly yeah married or engaged or engaged like at Disneyland or something are you a Disney person? are you a Disney adult? I am not however my assistant here Danielle
Starting point is 01:20:58 are you a Disney adult? apparently we are not saying anything negative about Disney adults I feel the shame across the room okay she went two weeks ago yeah okay that's fine i mean if you have a pass i know people who have passes who go were you a ketchup kid like ketchup the food yeah condiment yeah there's there's certain kids growing up where i've yeah it's the theory of yours it's a working it's a working like a kid who like has to put ketchup
Starting point is 01:21:26 on everything there were like certain kids you were friends with were like they're the ketchup kids like they had to have ketchup
Starting point is 01:21:33 on everything they couldn't eat without ketchup that's my husband today he's 42 he's a ketchup kid yes okay
Starting point is 01:21:38 it's real gross that he puts ketchup on everything I'll make soup I love soup he puts ketchup in soup he puts ketchup in the. I'll make soup. I love soup. He puts ketchup in soup. He puts ketchup in the soup that I make.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Disgusting. That's disgusting. I think it's like a clutch for him now. No. Okay. Or a crutch. Well, he put ketchup on the Chinese food that one time. Yeah. And that made me break out in high school. Everything. After I heard soup, it's pretty much everything. Nothing is sacred.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Nothing's shocking me after soup if we go to restaurants he'll say to me babe do you think they have ketchup and i'll be like don't you dare like a nice steak place like he's asking for ketchup not even not even a1 no he's going straight to ketchup yeah what would he do with like a Trader Joe's like truffle ketchup situation he don't like the fancy stuff Heinz he's a Heinz 57 kind of guy plain old ketchup and then we'll go
Starting point is 01:22:37 places and we'll ask for ketchup and you can tell when it's their homemade version and we'll be like oh man it's homemade yeah I don't like homemade condiments. What? No. No.
Starting point is 01:22:48 I respect that for you. Amanda's already brainstorming what she wants to make for you. Like a chutney kind of situation. No, like if you go to a restaurant and they made their own thing of what you were expecting. Or like on Vanderpump,
Starting point is 01:22:59 they made their own ranch. Did they? Yeah, everybody loved it. Let me tell you this. How are you not watching Vanderpump? I don't know it's so good about okay this is how i explain it to people so people cheating fucking everyone at this point it's gotten crazy the way it started is the premise that in a restaurant everyone's
Starting point is 01:23:17 fucking each other like this is something we all know to be true the show started as just being like let's put cameras on a specific restaurant where not only are they all fucking each other, it's L.A. and they all want to be actors and models. So they're power hungry. So it's about restaurants. So it literally started out as like the drama of the like the waitresses, the kitchen staff, like everyone. And now they some of them own their own restaurants and it's grown a lot bigger.
Starting point is 01:23:38 But some of them like and then there's been cheating and relationship flopping. And well, and like the editing is so good because they've been going for 10 years. They're on season 10 right now. And so anytime they've got their group. Yeah, but it's like anytime they reference something, they'll do a flashback. And then it'll be like in 2014. They'll give you all the context. They're constantly calling them out.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Yeah. A lot of bibliography for this show. I mean, I used to work in the restaurant industry. Obviously, coming up in the entertainment industry, you have to work in the restaurant industry obviously you know coming up in the entertainment industry you have to work in a restaurant at least once but even when I was young I worked at the Outback Steakhouse let me tell you
Starting point is 01:24:12 down under I had to pick up a DoorDash order from Outback and there was that onion thing that shit stunk up my car for so long no she was doing DoorDash. Somebody else ordered it.
Starting point is 01:24:26 I was driving it to someone's home. She was on the clock. When were you doing that? During the pandemic. You were doing DoorDash during the pandemic? We have had this conversation, Mike. I forgot. Really?
Starting point is 01:24:34 He was watching Vanderpump. Yeah. I was watching Vanderpump. Oh, yeah. But everybody was hooking up at the Outback. Yeah. Like, kitchen staff. And it would be funny because it would be like all the white girl waitresses were hooking
Starting point is 01:24:43 up with all the, like, Salvadorian, like, kitchen staff. And it would be funny because it'd be like all the white girl waitresses were hooking up with all the like Salvadorian like kitchen staff and they were like full on like, yes, poppy. And I'm like, oh my gosh, y'all are crazy. Everybody was hooking up. I mean, I was a hooker. Even at the Outback Steakhouse. Oh yeah. At the restaurant.
Starting point is 01:24:59 What was the spot in the restaurant that people would hook up? The cooler? Like in the restaurant? Did it ever happen? No. I don't know. I never seen it in the restaurant that people would hook up? The cooler? Like in the restaurant? Did it ever happen? No. I've never seen it in the restaurant. There was no like break room hook up? I just know outside of the restaurant.
Starting point is 01:25:12 In the parking lot. People were like, oh, now Hector over here with Julie. Yeah. Hector, Julie. And like for an industry night, like you know all the bartenders in towns and you go have like these huge big nights on like random Monday benders and then go home with your co-workers
Starting point is 01:25:29 I'm gonna have to watch Vanderbilt I really think you should yeah is our call already we do yes all right well it's time for sweat in the wedding where we give relationship or friendship advice to someone who's going through some sort of wedding planning drama yes wedding related so are you ready Angela I'm very excited about this okay to someone who's going through some sort of wedding planning drama. Yes. Wedding related.
Starting point is 01:25:45 So are you ready, Angela? I'm very excited about this. Okay. How's it going? Good. How are you? Good. What's your name? My name is Grace and I'm 24 years old. How can we help Grace? My fiance hooked up with a mutual friend of ours before we were together. And she's trying to keep it a secret.
Starting point is 01:26:06 And I kind of want to squash it all before we get married. And what do you mean by squash? Like tell everyone they fucked or like what exactly? She doesn't know that I know that they hooked up. So I would like to have a conversation with her about it. So then it kind of clears the air of everything that's happened. How close are you with this person? She is dating his best friend. So we see each other pretty regularly. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:36 All right. Does the best friend know? Yes. So everyone knows and she thinks that everyone knows but you. Correct. What about that makes you annoyed? It annoys me. I feel like she looks at me like I'm kind of dumb and like don't know this big secret
Starting point is 01:26:58 that happened between her and my fiance. My fiance actually told me the day we started dating, because I think he just wanted to be honest and let me know like, hey, by the way, we hooked up, but it's never been a thing. And I don't know how to casually bring it up. And it's been obviously, I've known for two years now and still haven't said anything. Why now? Why now does it bother you? I suppose because we're getting married. And like, I know for sure that they're going to be in our lives forever, where I like to put off drama. I don't like to associate myself with
Starting point is 01:27:39 drama. But we're starting to see them a whole lot more now. We're like renovating a house. But we're starting to see them a whole lot more now. We're renovating a house. And honestly, I can't look at her without thinking that my fiance has been inside of her. I don't want to think that way. I just want to think of her as a friend or an acquaintance. Is she doing anything? yeah so when about a year ago we had taken a trip and there's a lot of alcohol involved us four were on the trip my fiance and i her and her boyfriend so you agree to take a a group trip with the four of you yes knowing that every they all fucked and you know but you know that she didn't know and okay all right go ahead yeah there's also other people on the trip too but um she had told him what happened between us years ago is something that she can never know and my fiance told me
Starting point is 01:28:38 the day after and i suppose in that moment he just should have said yeah well i actually already told her and he realized that after the fact he was honestly just long gone at that point. Which reflecting back, I should have just have said something right then and there. But again, I don't like drama and I just don't want to associate myself with it. Since we've gotten engaged, she's been like all up in my grill about wedding details, asking me questions about his family. I think she thinks that she's going to be in the wedding party. She's not?
Starting point is 01:29:10 No. I have a prediction. What's your prediction? I predict that when you do bring it up to her, she's going to play it off like she knew you knew the whole time. She's going to be like, oh, I know you know. And she's going gonna play it like it was no big deal it was a long time ago it'd be like oh that was girl that was so long ago
Starting point is 01:29:32 but yeah i thought you didn't you know i thought you knew i think it's gonna be one of those if she does do that what do you what do you think about that i don't know to be honest if she i suppose then i would say like you don't think like don't you think this is something like we should converse about or like i don't know come clean yeah why do you why do you want to what's what's to talk about i guess i have like a lot of anxiety about it so i think like talking with her about it because she doesn't know that i know like i don't know maybe it's maybe i shouldn't have a conversation know like i don't know maybe it's maybe i shouldn't have a conversation with her i don't really know it's very in this whole story is kind of
Starting point is 01:30:10 interesting to me just because you know no one really did anything wrong per se you know it sounds a little shady for her to say to your fiance hey she can never know but at the same time i i don't know anything about this person i could make a quick kind of excuse for her where it's just like she thinks you didn't know and and knowing finding out now would make you feel like they were hiding something even though she didn't she wasn't trying to and she values your friendship so she doesn't know what to do and yada yada and it is in the past. So,
Starting point is 01:30:46 you know, did she handle it the best? No, but is it malicious? Not necessarily, but it clearly is bothering you. And I'm just wondering why so much. And if it is fine,
Starting point is 01:30:57 but like, this is kind of a, you, you problem. Yes, I agree. This is what I think. I think if it bothers you that much,
Starting point is 01:31:06 do a couple of therapy sessions on it it talk it out with your therapist and the only time you're bringing it up to her is because you don't care about it and you want to clear the air like hey just so you know i know but it's whatever it's in the past it is what it is not because you need something from her you don't need to answer from her you don't need a certain response from her. However, she responds is not going to dictate your emotional status afterwards. When you can get to that point, then you can have a conversation. But if you're having a conversation because you need some sort of response from her, none of her responses will be what you need. will be what you need. Yeah, they'll piss you off. Right, yeah. I think that's kind of just why I want to,
Starting point is 01:31:49 I just want to tell her that I know. And it's like, to me, it's not a big deal. I am happily in love with my fiance and I love each other. She's in another relationship. It's just more so like, so I can progress our friendship and maybe not. I think it bothers you more than you're admitting.
Starting point is 01:32:04 Letting on. Yeah. You could text her i know what you did and see where that goes um i know your secret i know your secret um i agree with angela you even said like now that you see her you can't help think about your fiance being inside her that's a fairly graphic thought and something i agree that maybe you need to work through because you sitting her down and talking about this i mean if she has any ego whatsoever even if she is your best friend you're going to stroke that ego and no matter what she says deep down she's gonna know like it bothers you and some fucked up part of her is going to like it and so yeah i think you just need to casually just be like
Starting point is 01:32:47 yeah i know yeah of course i know you didn't think i didn't know of course i know you know it's that kind of energy you kind of bring it almost up out of the blue this reminds me of something that i'm just now thinking of i actually made out with my best friend's husband before they met. Oh, okay. Not before they met, before they started dating. And it was like they were kind of talking or whatever. And then we met and we just like made out or whatever. Sure.
Starting point is 01:33:21 That her and I talking about it actually made us close friends. We weren't best friends yet. Like it was just, I knew who she was. She was this girl. It was a whole like dancer community. When when i first moved out here i was like real into the dancer scene you know i was trying to do all the music videos and whatnot anyway it's not about me it's about you and i made out with this guy turns out he was kind of seeing this girl and i remember i came to her and i was like hey just so you know i didn't know he was trying to date you or you guys had a thing going and that was just like i'm not trying to date him we just like made out it was nothing it was
Starting point is 01:33:51 whatever and we talked it out and then her and i became good friends after that and that was like i was in my early 20s now i'm 41 and she's my best friend today but But I'm just saying like I came clean, but I didn't care. She was a little bit hurt about that. This guy that she was just starting to date, like made out with some chick. And I was like, oh, but I wasn't, I didn't even know he was.
Starting point is 01:34:16 Yeah. Whatever. It wasn't even a thing. You would be the friend in this equation. Yeah. Yeah. But the fact that we talked it out was she appreciated it, that we talked it out.
Starting point is 01:34:27 So I don't know, like, you may appreciate a conversation with her as long as we let it go after. Yeah, I just, it all depends on the setup. I just feel like, I still agree with your first take, though. Yeah, first take, good. Disregard everything else I just said the past
Starting point is 01:34:46 45 seconds no I think eventually this could be something that ultimately it sounds like you guys are friends and for all you know kind of to Alan's point if this secret that you have always known wasn't true or
Starting point is 01:35:02 maybe it did get squashed or get brought up you might be closer friends with her today but i'm assuming there's there could be some wall you've always had up with her because you've known about a secret that she doesn't think you know and blah blah blah blah and that's always kind of probably i'm assuming been like i don't know if i want to be that good of friends with her type of energy right that's That's, that's exactly how I feel. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:26 And a conversation might break that ice. I just think you do it in a way that's not like so heavy. It's like, can we talk, you know, can we sit down? Can we talk this through? It's been eating away at me.
Starting point is 01:35:39 It's been bothering me. Every time I see you, I think about my boy fiance's dick inside you. Like, yeah, you don't want to say any of that. Right. think you just want to be like oh yeah no like i know girl i know i've known i've known the whole time like i've literally known since i met you like no big deal like you want to play it off like like she's not a threat to you that's what it is right
Starting point is 01:36:02 yeah right you think i would go on vacation with you if i was threatened come on she's like oh god that's so in the past and like then she can feel a little silly for thinking that you would be mad or that she couldn't have told you etc etc okay okay yeah that sounds good i wanted i didn't want it to be some serious thing. Cause I do know it's in the past. I more so just, I want to like be able to like continue our friendship, you know, and just have a conversation. How do we create this setup for her to casually bring up that she's always known? My dad said after having two drinks and you got her a beer and you guys go to the bathroom or something in the bar together.
Starting point is 01:36:46 You just say it. But you're not too drunk, but you have a little bit of tips on you. I mean, I guess. But how do we just bring up some other topic? Can we also talk about the phrasing of you have some tips on you? Is that a thing? I love that. Does your dad want to be my friend? That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:37:02 I like that. I mean, I think do you ever hang out with her one-on-one or only in double date-sies situations? Normally just in double date situations. We have hung out alone before, but not as common, no. She likes to talk wedding plans with you and stuff like that. I mean, it could easily be y'all are on double date season. Like your dad said, you go to the bathroom
Starting point is 01:37:29 and you just throw it out like, hey, it is what it is. Or maybe y'all do hang out one-on-one and you're going to do some wedding planning stuff. If you do it in the bathroom, it's going to turn more serious. And not that I know what goes on in a woman's bathroom. No. I fervently disagree. You disagree. Okay think i think a bathroom is a very like friendships are made in the back yes it's a place it's forgiveness is a real core tenant of the women's bathroom um i feel like also like you could be getting
Starting point is 01:37:59 in the bathroom be like so what do you think of matt's dick yeah corner her in the handicap stall um do you genuinely like question because i have a pitch but like only if it would like be the truth which is like do you like if you kind of just like address this thing it was a non-issue would you genuinely want to be friends with her oh yeah for sure we have a lot of similar values and goals in life so we get along really well i think you can literally say that like the next time like you're a few drinks deep in the bathroom or wherever else like where it's just the two of you can be like hey like i just wanted to say something like i mean like i know this is like super random but like i just wanted you to know that like i'm not like so we've talked about it and like it's no big deal and like i just wanted to say that because i think you're so cool
Starting point is 01:38:44 and like can we hang out and like use it as like a clear the air and like initiate plans and then follow through with them so that way it's like very obvious that you are okay with things and then just one other thing I would add is of course like this is not a big issue this is not drama but like you're allowed to feel jealous like I think you're allowed to have fleeting emotions that feel like kind of strong and I think sometimes for me like it's when I try to be like no I'm not jealous I'm fine like and kind of push that down that shit starts to come out sideways so like I would just say like it's so natural to be like oh I just had the haunting thought of my fiancee hooking up with a person I'm sitting across from you you you I hate like you know that tweet where it's like
Starting point is 01:39:22 your boyfriend one pulled down the underwear of another woman before you or it's like something like that where it's just like very tender it's fucked up what tweet is that it's like just remember that like your boyfriend like it's definitely said i think they say panties or something i don't know it's like definitely more delicate but it's just the idea of like what what's the premise of that the premise of the tweet is that like your boyfriend has like helped another girl take her underwear off when they were about to hook up like just like how it's like sure it's like the p and v thing is upsetting but like but it's the intimacy of the build-up and just like knowing that like someone did hook up with someone before and like if you do think about it like you can think of a lot of images that will be like
Starting point is 01:40:04 upsetting and like that you just you're better off not thinking about the way it's worded is like it's some sort of like lesson what's the lesson other than like yeah you probably dated someone who's like fucked other people i think it's that like we all have rich histories like just because they're not a part of the present doesn't mean they don't exist so like just like i think it's just a reminder of how things are fleeting i don't exist so like just like i think it's just a reminder of how things are fleeting i don't know sorry i lost the plot a little bit that was some pre-sound advice like i would want to be your friend after that like i'm listening to i was like yeah let's be friends oh i'm not in this situation like so i think i feel like that's a
Starting point is 01:40:38 good way to handle that okay i will for sure do that. I feel like I liked Amanda's advice a lot. And in private, you're allowed to feel all the feelings. Like, just because you feel something one-on-one and you're able to, like,
Starting point is 01:40:51 label it and, like, identify it does not mean you're making drama or making this visible to other people. In fact, I feel like it's a way that you're actively not doing that
Starting point is 01:40:58 by, like, being like, hey, I have an honest assessment of, like, what's going on in here. Be friends with her, but she is a secret keeper so i would just remember that there's also sound that's very sound advice as well i think we should all be invited to the wedding as well just so we can see how things go down we're probably not going to go but an invite would be nice much appreciated i will email and save the date whenever
Starting point is 01:41:24 they come out just so you guys can see there's a good chance she has used the phrase well i didn't tell you because i don't want you to be mad yeah you know which is valid sure i mean i have friends like that they're just not my like ride or dies they're just not the people i count on yeah it's just it's a small red flag that she went to your fiance and said we can never tell her because i think think sometimes when people feel really awkward, they do things outside of their character. Like and, you know, it's like the kind of thing where it's like it maybe starts as a tiny thing. Why is it outside of their character? Well, that's what we don't know.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Like we don't know if it's inside or outside. So it's like usually when people are awkward or scared or nervous, then that's when their true character actually comes out. Because it's easy to do the right thing when you're not up against it yeah i think there's but there's also like honoring like the spectrum of like yeah 90 of the time someone's going to react well but she just as easily could have gone up to her fiance and been like have you not told her because like i like your fiance and i don't want any weirdness but like you should have you should tell her he she just have easily could have said that i'm not saying she handled the situation well. I'm saying it is not a,
Starting point is 01:42:26 like I don't think one data point tells you everything. No, no. I'm not saying don't be friends with her. I'm just saying just don't forget that. That's a good reminder. I'm definitely more trusting than you. Yeah. I'm like, everyone's happy.
Starting point is 01:42:38 Yay. It matters. Yeah. I mean, that's the, you know, keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer. not that she's an enemy but it's friendly with her and then see where the friendship goes but you know if you ever decide to like bring her into the the circle of trust just make sure you have other data points
Starting point is 01:42:58 that counter the fact that she told your fiance to keep this secret from you. And in that conversation that you have in the bathroom where you're like, I'm not mad, blah, blah, blah, whatever. If she starts divulging information, like, oh my gosh, I just didn't want you to be upset, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:43:14 You could also be like, is that why you told him not to tell me? It could come up in that. Yes. Air it out. You know what I mean? But in the tone that she was giving you like in that you're the greatest but also like yeah but also then you make plans at the end of this
Starting point is 01:43:30 conversation and you hang out so you really can like kind of go hard to the pain yeah i like that all right okay keep us posted i will thank you guys so much you are welcome she's gonna stand up in her wedding I'm just kidding maybe we'll see do you have your bridesmaids picked out yes okay so no chance she's gonna come wearing the wedding colors though she'll be wearing
Starting point is 01:43:55 do you want me to hop in for a few photos she'll be in the pews be like I mean I'm fucked I didn't know you guys were doing lilac oh my god that's funny alright well keep us posted I mean, I'm fucked. I didn't know you guys were doing lilac. Oh, my God. That's funny. All right. Well, keep us posted.
Starting point is 01:44:10 I will, for sure. Thank you guys so much. All right. Thank you so much. Bye. All right. Bye. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Is that why you told him not to tell me is a powerful line. Yeah. That'll put her on the spot. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Is that on the spot. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Is that why you told them not to tell me? Face to face with the consequences of your actions.
Starting point is 01:44:31 Yeah. Yeah. Hostility in the bathroom. I mean, if we're going to address things, let's address things. You know what I mean? Angela, this has been so much fun. Thank you for having me. Thank you for coming. I've sat in 17 different positions on this show.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Trying to get comfortable. Thank you so much. Next time I see you guys, I will have a baby. Wild. A full on baby. It almost happened here. It was,
Starting point is 01:44:54 we were very close to making that happen, but then I adjusted my seat and we were good. I thought we were going to have our first. No birthing stain on the couch. No birthing stain on the couch. Can you please let my audience know, again, where they can find your special, about the special, your social,
Starting point is 01:45:10 all the things that you're doing. Plug away. Thank you. My hour special, it's my sixth one. Let me tell you guys. My sixth hour special, it's called Say I Won't. It's on YouTube, and it's a full circle moment for me
Starting point is 01:45:25 because my career popped off on YouTube back in 2007. This brand new thing called YouTube came out and my nail salon video was one of the first videos to go viral, one of the first like comedy videos. And so YouTube really popped off my career. And from that, I started touring. I booked Mad TV where I did Bon Quiqui and all the other things came from this video on YouTube. So the fact that I self-produced and I self-financed this special and I brought it back to the platform that started it all off for me is very like full circle moment for me. So it just released on my birthday, on May 14th, Mother's Day. And it's available for anybody to watch on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:46:12 So anybody can go watch it. Amazing. Well, if you're watching this episode on YouTube, go ahead and check out Angela's special. If you're listening to this show, go ahead and pop over to YouTube and check it out when you get home from whatever it is that you are doing. Anything else that you want to share?
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Starting point is 01:46:41 of Better Date Than Never live tonight at 9 p.m eastern what are we talking about orgies orgies anyway i think we're having appropriate there you go uh yeah very imagine us in an orgy i feel like we'd be very supportive we'd be a tag team for sure you're doing so good we have a couple i feel like that light is shining right in your eye let me turn that off you're doing so good what is that move that's a really good one look at her you know that video jamie lee cruiser she's like everyone needs to shut the fuck up and back the fuck down and let this woman shine that would be amanda amanda would be in the corner with like a camera being like you're doing great great. You're doing so good. They'd be like, no photography.
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