The Viall Files - E632 Reality Recap with Paige DeSorbo Plus Summer House, Scooter Braun, and UPS Uniforms

Episode Date: August 29, 2023

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap Edition! Nick and Natalie join us live from New York. We are joined by Paige DeSorbo to break down all things pop culture and reality TV - we discuss Summer House, Scooter Braun, Ariana Grande, and Taylor Swift. We ask Paige about her long distance relationship and what works for them, and get the groups response to favorite uniformed worker, and what kind of nanny you should hire.  “It’s like the girl version of Hooters.”  Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Join us for our new LIVE show on Thursdays at 9PM ET/6PM PT on Amp, available in the Apple app store. Android User? Listen here: https://www.onamp.com/   To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [e-mail] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact [e-mail] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by Better Help. Visit https://www.BetterHelp.com/VIALL today for 10% off your first month.  Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @[e-mail] @dereklanerussell @genevievegoodman   

what's going on everybody welcome back to another episode of the vile files what reality recap edition here we go yeah it's uh we're off and running. We're just, it's like freestyle, basically. Doesn't really matter. We are live from New York. We're not live. Okay. It's pre-recorded. I mean, we're live right now.

Yeah, we're recording from New York. The household is back in LA. Ladies, how you doing? Allie and Amanda and Derek. What's going on? What's new? What's cracking? Did you have a good weekend? Yeah, I saw stars. Did you see that clip of like all the people lined up in New York

City with a man with a telescope like pointed at Saturn? Yes. You saw him? You went there? I did a different. There is like the Griffith Observatory once a month in the summer. All like the Astronomical Society of L.A. whips out all their fancy telescopes. It is one of the most wholesome events I've ever seen of like the most like gentle astronomy nerds like being like, hey, you want to come look at the craters on the sun? Or I don't know enough about it, but I went with my boyfriend. The craters on the sun. Did you see any craters on the sun? Did you see any sun have craters?

There were spots. What I will say is there were spots on the sun. There we go. There were. So you were looking at the sun? Yes. So it was like we went at like sunset. At night? So we went at sunset so that way it was like we saw sun.

We saw stars. It was amazing. And isn't there like protocol not being able to look at the sun in a telescope? I'm not like. I don't think so. How are your eyes doing? No it was definitely this was definitely. I don't know I was looking right at it. Yeah remember those like that like lunar not lunar eclipse because that would be the moon solar eclipse solar eclipse when they're like don't look at it though but everyone does it was

different page to sorbo everybody is with us yeah thank you so much for having thanks for coming yeah you know we had to get our like a local new york it's like our new york new york week how you doing, Paige? I'm good. Anything like groundbreaking? What did you do this weekend? Did you also look at stars? No, I actually was in Hampton.

Filming Summer House? Well, if I... If you were filming Summer House, sneeze. If I was filming Summer House, I would have been filming Summer House. Okay. If you were. If you were, then you were. Right. Interesting. Okay. If you weren't, then you weren't. you weren't right exactly yeah so what's been going on with your life honestly nothing too crazy

um just been going out to the hamptons having a good time the summer has been so hot here and sticky and gross but i've been having a good time in this summer. Okay. Yeah. Is there any memorable moments? Did you learn any life lessons this summer? Oh my God. Life lessons. I don't know. Life lessons. No, but I will say this summer compared to last summer,

I do feel a little different because I was, I'm turning 31 in November. I was one of those people that I've had a really hard time being 30. You do? Yeah. Like some of my girlfriends... Your bio said you were approaching 30.

Yeah, that was last year. Now I'm approaching 31. But I have some girlfriends that loved it and they were like, nothing changed. Do you think any of them are lying? Maybe yes and no. My one girlfriend was like it's just a day over 29 like i still felt the same way i felt different when i woke up that day i like

cried i cried on my 25th well i cried inside on my 25th birthday i didn't actually cry but i definitely had a whole day of like i'm a a fucking loser. Like, I haven't done anything that I thought I was going to accomplish. 25 is still so young, though. Yeah. Yeah. I think for me, having a new number in the beginning was very terrifying. Like to be in a different. Yeah.

A different decade. I didn't. I don't love it. I think that's why I had a hard time turning 25, because it was the first time I ever considered that I'm going to turn 30. Okay. Before that, it wasn't even a thought. So then when you turned 30, were you like... Totally fine.

Totally fine. Yeah, I had my panic at 25. And when I turned 30, I had a great... I'm not nervous to turn 35. I'm not nervous to turn 40., I was, I had a great, I thrived in my 30s. I'm not nervous to turn 35. I'm not nervous to turn 40, but 30 really threw me for a loop. Were you nervous before you turned 30? Like, were you kind of like, oh no.

Yeah. I think like, I will say 28 was probably my favorite year of my 20s. Right. So I didn't think about it that much, but all of 29, I was like, oh my God, it's going to happen. It's happening soon. Natalie's got a birthday coming up this week yeah how old are you turning 45 okay and are you freaking out i

kind of i hadn't until nick the other day oh my god i freaked out so hard and so then i was like wait yeah i kind of am it's also 25 is a really big year for me because i'll get married and i'll have a baby yeah so like you're doing a lot of big life things yeah so that's probably more exciting what are you gonna do after that i don't know it's like is my life over no it's literally just beginning just beginning have you done much traveling um i went to italy in the beginning of the summer with my family and it was my first um family vacation with my boyfriend you took him yes on the family vacation which people i don't think talk about enough that that's a huge moment no 100 oh my god yeah how'd that go it was great and like going into it i

was a little bit nervous just because being with anyone for 10 days, you're kind of like, OK, like get away from me, you know, like especially on a vacation. So it was definitely a little bit nervous, but it was so much fun. We had a great time. And I think if you really want to know. Yeah. Take him on a trip with your family. For sure. Or my family, because my dad will tell you real quick. Yes, meshed super well.

My brother is actually his age. So it was almost like I brought a friend for my brother. Have they become friends? Yeah, they've definitely become friends. No, not at all because I am very close to my brother. So in dating my whole life, I feel like it's if you're not, if you can't get along with my brother, then it's not for me. So, no. So I was very happy and very excited.

Did it go from a 7.5 to like an 8.5 in terms of the one material? Definitely went up. Can I tell you, I got roasted for that after. Did you say it like on your podcast? No, I said it on Watch What Happens Live. Okay. And that is like, I said it on live TV, my podcast. No.

I did that shit out. Let's give me time to like think about, do we really want that in the episode or no? Watch What Happens Live is so fun, but so. Traumatic. So traumatic. Because their whole goal is to get you to say something you might regret and it's so quick like it's only 30 minutes so like you're really only talking to andy for like 10 minutes at a time not even like six minutes until a commercial break so so many

things are getting thrown at you so when he asked me that question i just went to like a normal middle number you're trying to be objective wait what even was the question what's fair i don't know first of all i just i want to come to your defense under a couple levels one i'm assuming part of the reason when you got shit is because i feel like a lot of people thought 7.5 was too low yeah and i'm here to say it's not because people, when they do the number system and they're like one through 10, I know in their mind, they're not thinking one through 10. They're thinking five through 10, like five's their floor. Oh yes. Okay. In their mind, it's just like, if you call someone a seven, they're like, oh my God, I'm like seven is, that's so above average. Like five is average average but if you call someone a five they would

lose their mind and i just think you're just kind of being ejected here but also people just hate like a number system and people were just like oh my god that's so mean to say about him and first of all i'm very sarcastic and like dry and so half the things i'm saying in general, I don't really even mean. So when he asked me that question, I said 7.5. Like, one, I'm not engaged and not married because then that would be a 10. Right. For sure. Two, I'm in the belief of the guy should like you more. No, 100 percent.

Really? Yes. Yes. Wow. And my boyfriend and we can talk about it. We can dive into it. No, please. My boyfriend gets really annoyed when I say that.

He's like, well, why can't I see why? Well, why can't it be even? I'm like, no, it is even for the most part. But the guy has to be a little bit more interested in you for it to really work. No. Yeah. And it's not like, oh, my God. Why?

Thanks for the translation pourquoi is that a word it's french yeah yeah no you actually did it yeah yeah oh hell yeah why i don't have a good answer on why but i just feel like if the girl likes the guy a little bit more, he's going to be over it. She'll come across as like too needy? I think so. I also think in general, women can tend to be a little bit more attentive and or thoughtful, like observant in specific ways. So I think that kind of helps like bridge that gap. And I'm not saying this is like in everybody,

but I think as a whole, like, you know, it's like the whole thing about like, men don't remember when events are, or like the calendar, or like, what should I wear to this? Like women are just like, I think on it in a certain regard for day-to-day life. And so I think that's where it like helps bridge that gap.

I'm thinking this through right now in my head, but maybe you're right. But you know the whole like, if he wants to, he will thing. Do you believe that? Like if he wants to he will thing do you believe that like if he wants you he will because i believe like if a guy wants to see you he's gonna do whatever it takes i think about that we were talking about this the other week i think about that in general but i think it depends on the the stage in which you're at you're dating now with hookup culture and everyone drags their feet and everyone takes, you know, it's just like, we haven't been on 15 dates yet.

We can't commit. I think at first a guy in dating just like women, you know, they have the right to like be unsure. And nowadays I think our society, it's like defining a relationship is equivalent to like, do you want to get married? Yeah. People like forget that they can break up and shit like that. And so I think there's a certain element of, yeah, he's just not sure type of

thing. But at the end of the day, once you start having those conversations, I think if he wants to, he would applies. But now that I'm thinking about it, I think maybe you guys have a point because I feel like in general, women like the idea of their male partner being obsessed with them. Yeah. And I don't think men like that same feeling. Don't like being obsessed with their person or they don't like that. Their person's obsessed with them. Yes.

I agree. Like Nick hates the idea of like, I would love to fall asleep kissing. She'll be like, can we just like kiss until we fall asleep? That is the most insane thing I've ever heard in my life. You think? You've never thought about it? I do not want to be in his skin. Okay, that I get where you're like, okay, I'm not close enough.

I want to get inside of you. And I'm like, we're holding each other. I'm a bit claustrophobic. I'm not sure how much more I can do. But I'm very much a black cat and my boyfriend is a golden retriever. Like he'll get excited about anything at any time. And I'm kind of like, oh my God,

why aren't you like more obsessed with me? And then when you are, I'm like, you're disgusting. Like I want to just throw things off the table. You know, like I'm just like, get out of here. So I wouldn't like that but I feel like my boyfriend would love it I feel like if you offered he would probably be like that's so

sweet that's so thoughtful that's the hottest thing you've ever said till we fall asleep yeah yeah I just want to kiss until we fall asleep Matt is very cute though yeah Nick said no the hardest no I've ever heard in my life I didn't even I just want to kiss until we fall asleep. Matt is very cute, though. Yeah. Nick said no. The hardest no I've ever heard in my life.

I didn't even yes and you. No. I didn't even play along. No. I'm also when it's like sleeping time, it's sleeping time. Right. It's time to separate. Yeah.

Like I'm going to turn over. Please don't be offended. We can maybe like you. Your foot can touch the bottom of my leg and i'll allow it but don't get in my general area are we not allowed to use a number system in general like is is or did people give you shit for just rating your guy in general or it was a question and he asked me on a scale from one to ten okay so so i wouldn't have naturally said that because whenever there's like a number system involved and I have a perfect story that explains it. I one time was listening to this guy yell at one of my girlfriends like they were getting into an argument and he said to her, you're a six. Why would I even listen to you? OK, well, he's a dick.

listen to you okay well he's a dick she gets extremely offended but my other girlfriend is standing next to her and she looks at me and she goes wait i feel like if someone called me a six i'd be like pumped about it well i mean objectively he said what if he said you're above average she was like wait did he just insult her because i feel like i would be happy with being called a six and i was like this is just two like two totally different schools of thought so all in all yes that guy was a dick he meant it as a dig he meant it as a mean comment but it wasn't like that mean so we were like another guy who thinks five through ten he's missing the mark he what he meant to call her was a three right but i actually i think six is so hurtful because it's like it's not like offensively low like a three is a fuck you you know and a six is like no i think i'm being generous here like it like i feel like it's much more disguised yeah it was almost like a

funny like he was fucking with her head like calling her a six but she took it immediately offensive which i think i would too yeah i would if it's just based on looks wise like also andy was asking i'd love to follow up like are you just talking about my looks or is it like the whole thing my personality that's what she should have done yeah because like i know i'm like a six looks wise but i really think i've been working hard on my personality i'm pretty sure i'm pushing like a 9.5 right yeah yeah and also back to when andy asked me that i also feel like i'm my personality isn't to be like oh my god a 10 like i'm obsessed with them i'm so in love like i because i feel like that would come off fake so if i said 10 i i think I would have still been roasted by people being like, she's like lying.

I think it was the precision of the 0.5 page. Like I think had you just even just said seven, it would have been better. But you threw in the 0.5 and people are like, this must have been incredibly calculated. Not an eight. I'm going to be honest.

When seven came out of my mouth, my initial thought was, that's so rude. If he ever said 7 so you thought a.5 would really because I couldn't go back and be like 8 I don't know I got so flustered

but after I said to him wow I apologize because if you did that and you said 7.5 I would have been so embarrassed I would have like yelled at you so badly. And we would have been broken up. Yeah, we would have been broken up for sure.

Let's be honest. But he took it like a champ. He was like, I like, I know half the things that come out of your mouth are stupid. So I don't care. But so he wasn't upset. And that's all I cared about.

I know the story has been kind of played out. But since you're here. Yeah. do you have any thoughts on the whole uh rachel uh bethany interview of it all i just i i'd be remiss if i didn't ask yeah i think quick to come out and talk like it really i feel like just happened i think it was like quick to come out and go on a podcast. I think Bethany wasn't a very polarizing one to go on first. Sure. Well, yeah. Well, she just made it all about Bethany. Yeah. Reality TV is so different. It is a little bit that like people are replaceable. That's why so many random people can get famous for crazy things all you need is a willingness to be embarrassed right that's it so like if i don't want to do something there's a

thousand other girls i'll be like i'll do it yeah so there's really it's not like we are actors and there's the specific talent that we have the talent is just being like willing and vulnerable and being like yeah i'll show everything like in my life so i don't know the whole like scan of all thing i don't know any of them really super super well i know them enough to like text ariana and be like hey this is crazy are you okay i don't really know rachel i guess now is what we're saying but you meet her i've met her a few times i will say the insane amount of hate i did have a moment where i was like this is too much like if this was me i don't think i would have been able to handle it like i would have hid for a while it was definitely a lot yeah that's why I was just bummed for Rachel that her first time popping out into the scene

didn't go better. Right. And I felt, I honestly felt bad for her. I mean, it's partly she took the bait and she wasn't, she could have just as easily said to Bethany, Hey, listen, I know I have a lot to be frustrated with, et cetera, et cetera, but I'm just here to hold myself accountable and talk about the work I've done kind of that

that would have been amazing so that is on her but you know Bethany if you're talking it's I just again I've talked about this plenty but I read there's not a PR team like running in I think she's I think she's had I think she was dropped by her original PR team and I think now her pr team is essentially her family uh and probably at this

point bethany which i think unfortunately for her first thing i'm doing is calling a crisis pr person does that ever work though i just i don't know what does a crisis pr team do mentally it would make me feel better and why can't your pr team do that but right i don't know i don't know i don't know but i but i do know that i would want someone to be helping me that isn't my mom yeah because what does my what would my mom know my mom would be like you just stay home but the irony of like yeah Bethany being in that position of power and Rachel looking up to her she was

gonna do and say kind of whatever Bethany said she should do or say and it just didn't go well yeah and I think it backfired a little bit but overall it was crazy to watch something where my whole TikTok my whole Instagram all my text messages were about it.

Like it was such a weird time in pop culture history. And to also be somewhat like involved because I am on Bravo was like, oh, my God. Like everyone really does watch Bravo because like in my my head i'll be like bravo's really niche page don't worry about it anytime something bad goes wrong your friends are always like don't worry like no one watches your show yeah you're like you know you're right no one gives a shit and that makes you feel better and then this happened i was like wait a minute so everyone really does watch like i fuck up yeah it was really crazy not that like i'm gonna go like that would be like me sleeping with kyle cook which would just be like hilarious um now that i would like go and do that

but it was a very surreal like moment in time where i was just like wow so everyone's lying they are watching did that do you feel like that changed your or any of your castmates behavior the next time? Do you feel like there was a more of a careful approach or not really? Not really. I mean, I think it was more like in our group chat, we were all just like, this is crazy. Like, did you have any idea? Like, did you see them at Bravo Con? But Summer House is kind of like the stepchild on Bravo. I feel like, like we just, our show just kind of started popping off during COVID because there was nothing else on TV.

So it's not like we know Vanderpump like that. Well, there's a few cast members that are like good friends, but we didn't, we wouldn't have known anything at Bravo con, like seeing them or been aware of anything yeah well i had to ask uh before we started uh we were talking about some potential pop culture topics and you said you had some conspiracy theories over this whole scruder braun fiasco

and i would love to hear them because this is a bit wild it's a bit weird right well last week we talked about it we started you know getting into the weeds and it was just more like I thought like maybe this is a lot to do about nothing. Maybe this is Scooter kind of taking that next step in his career and kind of being more CEO and less kind of management. But like every artist is like publicly separating themselves. There's more. There's less of this like transitional period.

And like, yeah, there make these statements of like, I'm no longer working with Scooter Brown. It's why this statement, because you could fire anyone on your team and you don't have to publicly say it. So like the publicness of saying like, I'm not working with him anymore. There has to be some type of something dropping. Something's not to come out. Didn't Variety say something like there were rumors of i guess like some sort of scandal

i think maybe it's just more like he was a dick i almost feel this is my own conspiracy theory is what if he was like misappropriating all their money or like something was happening where he's stealing yeah she's stealing money. Could have, potentially, and then like they had to have, and that seems like that would be like a long investigation. That would track. That an article wouldn't be out yet about it. That's pretty good, Paige. That was my own conspiracy.

That's pretty good, because, I mean, Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift. I don't know what your situation is, but we feel very lucky to have the management we have. But that's a unique thing because there are so many shady fucking managers. And that's what they do. They essentially deal money.

Right. Right. Because they'll get these deals and they lie about the deals and they're like, they like the deal might be worth, I don't know, let's say 10,000. But they'll go to you and be like, hey, I have a $7,000 deal for you. And then they'll take their 10% and shit like that. And that shit is pretty prevalent in the industry in general. Yeah, and he's working with the biggest, the most money that I almost feel like they're at a level,

like Justin Bieber has got to be at a level where he's making so much money, he really doesn't know how much money. Right, like where it's coming in. And it's not like you're doing a show and then you're immediately getting paid that's like a few months later or like whatever you're you know it's like justin didn't show up for finance or accounting class right he's also definitely not like following up i mean like hey scooter like that brand deal we did like did that

money come in did that hit yet yet? He's not living yet. I'm like, wait a second. Is my rent gonna bounce? So I'm checking my shit. That's a guarantee he doesn't check his shit. I mean, that has happened. I think that happened to Billy Joel way back when.

That's gotta be like a homicide would ensue. Could you imagine you find out that your manager's in steel? That's going to be like homicide would ensue for me. Like, could you imagine you find out that your manager's in five million dollars over the course of 10 years? Like I, I couldn't. And it also if you were one of his like he's your manager and I'm Ariana Grande and I hear this about Justin Bieber, like he's like taking his money or something. I'm immediately then separating too so like that would play into

they all heard it at the same time kind of. Almost like a class action kind of thing where someone the stories this happens to one of the clients and they start reaching out be like hey did this happen to you did you have a similar conversation

we think he's stealing. I could imagine Scooter Braun would be like, we need to set aside like 0.2% of all money as like a legal emergency fund or something like that. Like you could totally say something that would sound really legit and be like, in terms of our liability, we need to make sure we're covering this.

And so then everyone's like, okay, totally set aside 2%. And like with numbers that are so big, like a really small percentage seems so negligible and then if you find out this is bullshit and that actually like within all the other coverage you have from lawyers like you don't need this two percent and there's some tiny thing in the contract that's like should this not be needed it's returned to management like if you find out about that then you can like whistleblow and tell everyone else wait Wait, what a sentence. If not needed, return to management. Yeah, and most of these...

Amanda read the lawsuit. She read the lawsuit. I was a legal studies major and I'm paranoid. I have such intense anxiety. So I'm like, how could people be doing horrible, malicious things at all times? I mean, think about it, though. Think about when all these celebrities, Justin, Demi Lovato, Ariana Grande, they were all

fucking teenagers when they signed with him or younger and their parents don't fucking know anything when it comes to that shit. That's the problem when it comes to management is you think they're the ones who are there to protect you. I mean, that's how we look at our manager. It's just, I'm always like, hey, what do you think? You know, I trust them. And so that's such a, you know, if you have a lawyer, you think that they're the ones

who are, it's like having your priest or your rabbi or whatever it is that you go to it. That's that, that position of power that you, you know, you trust them and then they go around and they're the ones ripping you off. It's like it. There's also a little part of me that's like okay if you're hanging out with ariana grande justin bieber that's a different level of fame that's like kind of insane i also think sometimes managers like they want to be that famous too yeah the celebrity manager yeah and i just i don't know maybe there's like something of that plays into

it too where he wanted to look like didn't he recently get divorced? Yes. And I think there was some infidelity there. Yeah. So I don't know. Do you think she was the whistleblower? Imagine. Oh my god. Like she kind of knew and then she got pissed and she was

like you know what fuck you. I'm going to go tell them all. And she kind of Wow this would be a great Netflix documentary of you're like we don't even know if this rumor is true but it's such a good story no i love conspiracy theories i am deep on conspiracy theory tiktok i love it what's your favorite conspiracy theory the earth is flat yeah no i'm not like one of But like, we're not not in a simulation. Like, I'm not not being controlled by something. Right. You know, like I like stupid shit like that.

But Scooter Braun stealing all their money is also a really good one. Wow. Did you know that UPS is now paying their employees $170,000 a year? I just heard that. And I was in the Hamptons this weekend. And I applied for a job. Seriously. And can you sign for this package?

For Nick Thompson, if you're listening, he's from Love is Blind, and he thinks Netflix should employ him for life. Wait, I just saw that too. And he thinks he might be homeless. And I'm like, hey, $170,000 a year. There you go, buddy. Are they

still married? That love is blind couple? No. But I think they reunited for a common enemy being. I'm also surprised he can't get a job. I don't think he did anything crazy on TV. Who knows? I mean, listen, sometimes if you go on reality TV, you know, there are certain professions

out there that might say, yeah, this isn't for us. Right. No, absolutely. We have certain clients. That would be offended. Or just, you know, he's a soft, I don't know. There's consequences to actions at times. But either way, they could be a UPS driver.

They do whip those trucks. Like, they are a UPS driver. They do whip those trucks. Like, they are good at their jobs. And they also whip those packages. And I'm going to be honest, over all of them, I'm going UPS. I'm going UPS over FedEx. Not DHL.

Do you know that? Oh, not DHL. Do you know how these came? DHL never comes into my head. I never think of DHL. It's chic. It's a guest star. If you're shipping

more big bulky stuff, I feel like. I know I never go USPS. Ever. Do you know the arrow and the spoon in FedEx? Have you ever seen that? On their truck,

the way that their logo is, there's an arrow and a spoon in their lettering. And as a kid, it would be like if you follow the arrow, like whichever way the arrow is pointing, it'll like lead you somewhere that like you're meant to go. Wait. Conspiracy theory. Are you talking?

This is like a Tootsie Pop. Remember when you look for the spoon portion? Well, this arrow. Where's the feather? Feather. Well, that's the arrow. It's a spoon in the E. What?. Where's the feather? It's the arrow. It's a spoon in the E. How is it a spoon?

There's a spoon in the E. So it was like if you follow the arrow that's in the E and the X. Follow it where? It's just pointing that way. If the truck is turned and you are looking at it from the other way then the arrow is going the other way. I'm still not getting what the spoon has to do with it.

I think it's just like kind of, it was like a fun fact. Yeah. Yes. They just threw it in there. Yes. Yeah. So if all else fails,

you just go to, yes. And it seems like a pretty good gig. You know, you get to drive around, listen to your favorite podcast. Yep. Or.

You don't have to think about what you're wearing every day. You're in a uniform. So that's taken care of. A great opportunity to meet friends and people because you're constantly. I'm going to be honest. During COVID, when we were filming Summer House, we were very, very locked down because like just like we have a lot of other crew members and stuff like that. So we were super locked down.

And one of my favorite parts of the day was when the UPS driver came and would drop off packages. And he was so good looking. I mean, I had a full on boyfriend during this, but in my head, I had a full romance with the UPS driver. And it was a highlight of my COVID. What's the hottest, I guess, essential worker job you would fantasize about? Is UPS essential worker, right? Yeah, totally. That was considered essential worker. I don't feel like a mechanic.

You know, just like working on cars. I feel like he's definitely not an essential worker. A mechanic? I feel like they've got to be. You need someone to fix your car. During COVID though? Like a tow truck driver? Were they going to work though? Mechanics?

I think like You're thinking like of a mechanic Uniform because I like immediately go to uniforms Like what's my favorite uniform? Oh okay what is your favorite uniform? I mean I don't hate the UPS One It's like

It's like And they're wearing short tight shorts Really isn't their decision so you can't judge them for it but they kind of weirdly look good in it. It's like girls version of Hooters like they're in

tight tight shorts. Yeah. Lovely set. Yeah. Lovely set. To be set. And legally blonde. I feel like capitalized on that

with like the bend and snap UPS driver. That is one of the few movies where there's been justice for UPS drivers. Yeah, my uncle was he managed a UPS location up north. Yeah. In New York City, because it's like so the streets are so crazy. I feel like they park in one section and then they'll go and like deliver packages that are on like that street rather than like going house by house or like how it would be in like a suburban area. And I always feel like they're having so much fun. Like every time I see UPS drivers, there's two of them or they're like talking to the FedEx because they're all like in a line.

And I think they're always laughing. They're just like in meetup. Yeah, like cracking jokes or just like throwing packages in different places. Like I feel like they're having a good time at their job. Like what would a bad work day be for a UPS truck, I guess stuck in traffic. I mean, obviously other than like in an accident or something,

which would be a bad day for anyone. Like, I think that would be so hard to have like dogs constantly mad at me. Like I think that would really weigh on me. Do you think that would just really kill your spirit yeah i get so i take it so personally when a dog doesn't like me that's honestly so embarrassing yeah you're right that's so true i get really self-conscious if i'm in a room with people and like a dog will come up to you sniff you and then decide no i'm always like oh my god

is my energy so bad that this dog is like no no. And I feel the same way with babies. And I feel like my boyfriend sometimes will be like, if a baby like looks at me and doesn't like me, he's like, your aura must be off. Like that's, it's not great. You don't have like mom energy. Yeah. And then I get so self-conscious. I'm like, why does this dog and baby hate me?

Oh no. It's different. Like, I'm like, I think most people hate my aura but dogs love it nick and dogs and babies are really drawn to nick and like a lot of people people are not okay that's so interesting but they say that that's like babies and dogs can see a different like color or whatever that's what i'm saying because like deep down i'm a sweet guy but i just you know like the same as the dogs you do baby yeah you see through it yeah yeah see babies don't give me a chance they're not down with whatever i'm

putting out there all babies yeah i would actually say in the past six months is the most babies have ever been drawn to me ever. Maybe you're in my whole. Yeah, maybe I'm like starting to turn 30. Eternal thing, but usually they immediately cry. Yeah. Wow. So do you talk about having kids with

Craig? Like being in a stage of relationship where it's like serious enough that people get pissed off like not until I'm a nine seven point five. But like you're not necessarily like engaged or like haven't done any of those like kind of like paperwork stuff. No, we definitely talk about it. What is the discourse? We're not like falling asleep kissing, but we're talking about kids.

Neither am I, don't worry. I mean, I think we talk about like the normal things that like couples talk about, like watching your child have certain personality traits. And there are like things that Craig will do that I'm just like, oh my God, if my son does that do that I'm just like oh my god if my son does that like I'm gonna be so annoyed and he always

says like I can get out of anything like I never get blamed for anything so he's excited that like if we have a daughter and like that she'll be like me because I I don't know I feel like I can make a face and I'm just like oh sorry and I get out of it

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now only on Peacock what was this thing about Jack Antonoff about Scooter Braun was he like talking shit about Scooter? Like throwing shade? Well he reposted a meme yeah so there was a meme of like uh about Scooter Braun? Was he like talking shit about Scooter? Like throwing shade? Was he throwing shade? Something about memes or something? Well, he reposted a meme. Yeah, so there was a meme of like,

it was the Sims meme, and it was like, the caption was, not now, sweetie, mommy's trying to figure out why Ariana Grande, Demi Lovato, and Idina Menzel

just fired Scooter Braun as their manager. And then in the picture, the computer character is staring at their computer while a baby erupted into flames on the floor. And he reposted that to his story.

Okay. They're really thriving over the Scooter Braun downfall. Do you think Taylor is unbothered and just like crushing the heiress to her? She's down in Mexico City. She's thriving. But are celebrities just like us in the sense that like, you know, listen, no one's above being petty. I feel like she's probably like the truth will always come out at some point. Like, you know, when you watch reality shows, I feel like it's like happening because of like all the Bethany stuff, too.

You know, when you watch reality shows like 15, 10 years ago, whatever, and everyone was on a very specific side. was on a very specific side and then like 10 years later something will happen and everyone will be like oh my god we didn't see it like i feel like that's very like if something came out about like laguna beach or something i'd be like so invested in it because like i watched it when i was younger scene with uh lauren conrad being like i will forgive you but I will never forget you know what I'm talking about you find out that like what Lauren did was more fucked up than what Heidi did yeah and you're just like wait this is crazy

yeah so I feel like Taylor probably feels like the truth will always come out and like probably yeah that is a huge win for Taylor yeah it's like for everyone to finally be like, wow. But also, what about him tweeting? What about him tweeting like, oh.

I don't represent myself right now. Yeah. To me, that's just a. You're trying to be funny. A projection of like him unraveling and trying to. Like, oh, you guys care so much about like what's going on with me. Like. Yeah.

You know. How old is he? He's not that old. I think he's in his 30s. Oh, wow. Mid to late 30s. Yeah. Oh, I would have said.

He's 42. Yeah, because he's discovered Justin when Justin was like 12. Yeah, because Justin's 29, so they're actually not that far apart. Wait, Justin Bieber is only 29? Isn't that crazy? he's been so long all around that's so crazy wow i feel like people don't give him enough credit for staying as famous as he has stayed for this amount of time and i don't even say this with disrespect not even like he hasn't really released a ton of music right lately he doesn't have to

because he just has to show up in a music video and look hot. Did you see him in SZA's music video? Are you kidding? Are you kidding? I love him and Hailey. I'm a big Bieber household stan. She's always wearing his initials or Bieber on a belly chain. Them on the yacht?

Why don't you wear mine? I'm sure he got it for Why don't you wear mine? I'm sure he got it for why won't you kiss her until she falls asleep. Yeah, that's true. I answered my own question. Did you hear that allegedly Steve Harvey's wife cheated? I did hear that, yeah. What do we think of that?

I love Steve Harvey. Same. With every, that would probably be a hall pass if I had to ask for one. I feel like he would be so fun to go to dinner with. So fun. I thought you were going to say something else after she said hall pass. That too. I think it'd be so fun to go down on.

Sloppy toppy. I would love to meet him. Love to meet him. My dream is like Family Feud. If I could go on Family Feud, I will die happily. Summer House went on Family Feud and I was so livid that I didn't get it. I think we were filming Winter House at the time, but they lost so badly. I forget who they played. But I was so mad that I didn't get asked to go on it.

I've never done it. I've been asked twice. The first time I took the advice of someone that said i think you should pass here because we wanted to put you on something else later and i ended up getting that show so that worked out okay two years later they like i got a random phone call and it was like hey we're gonna have some of the bachelor guys versus the kardashians yeah like great and the whole week i'm thinking why would the Kardashians want to fucking do this?

Friday night. Got a call. Kanye wants to do it. You're out. And we were like bummer but like that totally makes a lot of sense. But yeah it was it was supposed to be the Bachelor guys versus the Kardashians. I play Family Feud every

Thanksgiving. My dad is Steve Harvey. He reads the questions. We've been doing it for... Oh, my God. Can I come? Yes. It is the most fun time. And it's boys versus girls every year.

Obviously. My boyfriend has come to Thanksgiving for the past two years with me. He's very invested in it. Sierra comes to my family's Thanksgiving. We are like huge family feud people. And my dad cheats for me all the time. And so it's amazing. Wow.

I will sell this. I will give this baby if I could go on a family feud. I'm so sorry, but I will. I'll talk to Rob Mills. Wait, Paige, what's been like the most controversial like family feud question from a Thanksgiving or like an answer that was very memorable, very contested? Well, speaking of family, like Steve's wife was on Family Feud once.

I actually saw this clip the other day. No way. And it was really funny. And it was some question of like, what's the type of like guy you'd want to hall pass for or something along that. And she was quick to and she goes, the pool boy. And it was this kind of funny. Allegedly, it was the bodyguard, right? That she cheated.

That's alleged. Allegedly. Could you imagine? She's like security. That's my favorite essential worker. Our Thanksgiving family feud, though, is very, like, the boxed game is very PG. Like, nothing is really that crazy. But my dad is really good at cheating, but only for me.

Just on games, though, not on us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're out on my mom. You're out on your favorite child. Well, I have an older brother, and my mom definitely loves him the most. I think that's normal. I feel like moms with sons. Yeah.

Yeah. Like I'm my mom's favorite. My sister's my dad's favorite. Yeah. But like I wake up in the morning, get out of bed and my dad's like, that's amazing. I can't believe you did that. Yeah. Wow.

It's like you're perfect. As far as the speculation about Steve Harvey and his wife. Yeah. Here's what I think. And, you know, it's like, I don't know how you guys do it on your show. We always try to like on the show, we talk a lot of pop culture and things like that. And it's kind of like, where do we draw the line between like speculation, having fun versus like being a part of the problem, like spreading a rumor type of thing.

Yeah. And when it comes to infidelity in relationships, I'm kind of of the mindset that until someone in the relationship speaks about it, then it's kind of like... Like the Adam Levine Bahati. It was like there was so much... And then he finally was like,

I'm so sorry I was messaging... Well, someone else came out. I forgot about them. Well, if there's a cheating situation. So if there's a cheating situation, there's usually three parties. So if one person in the party speaks out, then it's, I guess, kind of fair game. But until then, especially with celebrity couples, there's so many bullshit rumors. No, that's so many Bullshit rumors And like No that's so true

Like the fitness guy It's like Where does this come from Like maybe they Maybe she developed A rapport with this guy Yeah I don't know

And it's totally fine You know I don't know But it's like And Steve Harvey Has come out and Basically He has addressed it Basically saying

Y'all are bored And kind of just denied it Oh wait he did Yeah right Oh I didn't realize that Did we have a quote Amanda or Ellie has come out and spec, basically, he has addressed it, basically saying y'all are bored and kind of just denied it. Oh, wait, he did? Yeah, right. Oh, I didn't realize that. Do we have a quote, Amanda or Ellie? I ain't got no time for rumors and gossip. God's been good to me.

I'm still shining. Okay. But it wasn't a no. But I'm still shining, not we're still shining. So. Yeah, I don't know. I'm hesitant to speculate

until there's, where's this rumor coming from, I guess is the question. He said, I don't know. I'm hesitant to speculate until until there's where is this rumor coming from? I guess is the question. He said, I don't know what y'all doing, but find something else to do because we fine. We fine. We fine. Which to your point, you're so right. Like anyone can make up anything about you at any time. Like I went to an all girls high school, so I know.

You know, like anyone can start a rumor about you and it time. Like I went to an all girls high school. So I know, I know, you know, like anyone can start a rumor about you and it can catch on. And like, now that we have things like do moi and like, it's so easily accessible and so easy for anyone to write anything in. And it's their perception of it, you know, it's just like randomly stick.

But yeah, then we have jobs where we sit and we kind of like speculate conspiracy yeah and it's like it's it's tough and i feel like i always am like but you know what i don't know them so i have no idea but it's actually going on gossipy and like fun to talk about with your friend no i don't know and then. And then there's always the, it's 2023. Maybe we, I don't, I don't imagine Steve and his,

what is, I don't want to keep on Steve Harvey's wife, his wife. What's Steve Harvey's wife name? Marjorie. Maybe Steve and Marjorie have a, an understanding of some kind. And that could,

yeah, they could have an open relationship. Yeah. Maybe they just don't want to announce it to the world. Yeah. And they've been married for so long. It's like, they should just start fucking other people. And like, we'll it to the world. Yeah. And they've been married for so long. It's like, they should just start fucking other people.

I'm like, we'll vacation together. Imagine. I mean, I don't think I could ever do that, but who knows? And like, if I'm married for like 40 years,

20 years, you might just be like, go ahead. Should we try? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know either. I would definitely want to pick her though. I think. Okay. Interesting. I don't know either. I would definitely want to pick her, though, I think.

Okay, interesting. I feel the exact opposite. I would not want to know anything. You would all pick someone... Awful. It doesn't matter. So it's like, well, I don't even want to now. That's your own problem. You're going to pick some young, hot

blonde? I don't think so. Here is Gertrude. No. What if Gertie's hot? I feel strongly. I even feel strongly about like, and I fully, I fully trust my boyfriend, but I would never hire like a hot nanny. And that's very like, I just would never do that.

Yeah. Temptations are real things. Yeah. I could trust him a thousand percent and I could even trust her. But like, I just, I would never do that. I do know like on The Bachelor, the environment is about limiting distractions, having a singular focus, living in a bubble. Yep.

And so they are aware of the people who will be interacting with cast. And so given that awareness, they want to make sure that cast will not be distracted by the people they could be interacting with because their focus might go elsewhere. Yep. And therefore, they're careful about hiring, hiring certain attributes. But didn't someone fall for a producer? Yeah, it's happened before,

which is all the more of the reason why that like, right, the hotties tend not to stick around. I mean, look at like, there was like on Siesta Key,

like one of the cast members fell in love with one of the camera men. I think, I think they have a baby now. Really? They got married and had a baby candy on housewives of atlanta her husband was i think i think he he even might have been a cameraman too but like that happens i would love to be in the room as they're like but like falling for each other you know like he's filming her and she's just right he He's just staring at her.

The camera shots only at her face. It's like that one scene from Love Actually where she's like, I look quite pretty. It's all her on her wedding day. That was meant to be. That was supposed to happen. Yeah, but they definitely are conscious

of that. They want people only focused on their leads, so to speak. And would you get fired? Like say they something happened, would they get fired? Yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. But yeah.

But back to like, I guess what made me think of that is when you are hiring for a nanny. Yeah. And if let's say you were like lining them all up in a waiting room and like you kind of all looked around and you kind of noticed a certain yeah type i wonder if those nannies would be aware of it you know or definitely yeah like absolutely like we're all ugly no but i want i would want like a grandmother type situation. A more nurturing grandmother. I agree, right? I don't want to... I'm not trying to shit on all the young nannies out there

just trying to make a living, but I would feel more comfortable with someone who has some life experience behind them. I will say, when I was younger, my mom was a single mom. And she was like, we were calling the cops on each other all the time because we were home alone with no babysitter. And my brother would hit me with a foam sword and I'd call the police. I'd lock him out.

He'd call the police. Wait, what a weird little time in your life that you guys fell into. It was a fun little game. So finally, mom was like, okay, we have to have a babysitter. I don't have the money for this,

but I'm going to scrape some up for y'all. Wait, did you tell the knife, the 911 fake knife story? It was a sword. It was a foam sword. He hit me with it.

They showed up and they're like, where's the weapon? He brings out the foam sword. They were like, I've been stabbed. My brother stabbed me.

They bring like 10 SWAT cars down the door wait one time i kicked my brother in the throat and he started having an asthma attack i called 9-1-1 i said i killed my brother i feel like all little kids do it he wouldn't change the channel honestly he brought it on himself he wouldn't change the channel of Honestly, he brought it on himself. He wouldn't change the channel of the TV. It's your fucking fault. Sorry. He knew what he was doing. Yeah. Anyways, so my mom finally was like, we're going to get you a babysitter.

And I would only put up with it if they were young and pretty. Same. I did not want. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah. I didn't want an old person around me. Absolutely not. No.

I wanted someone I wanted to be. I'll never forget my babysitter. She had curly blonde hair. Her name was Sherry and she was gorgeous. So is that how the dads out there can pull it off? Be like, well, we have to hire her because that's what our daughter

wants. Wait, but now that I think about it, I did have like a hot babysitter. I mean, I didn't have a babysitter where it was, like... It was, like, my parents were going out to dinner on a Saturday night. She came over for, like, three hours. It wasn't, like, my nanny that picked me up from school.

But, yeah, now thinking about it, my mom must have been very secure. Wait. Like... Oh, my God. Or, like, exhausted. She was like, yeah, let's see. Try. I dare you. But my god. Let's see. Try.

I dare you. I'm glad by the time we have a babysitter I'll be so old that my nightmare would be like that stupid crazy love situation. Crazy stupid love. Yeah. Where like the babysitter has a crush on the

dad and he just has no idea no idea what a fucking nightmare that would be oh my god it would be like dust i'll be so horrifically ugly by then you guys realize you're having a baby within the next year how long are you gonna wait to have a babysitter? What? It's literally happening tomorrow. What do you mean? We're hiring next year. No, it'll be my mom for a while. Yeah. No, that's...

Yeah. I guess we'll have... I was thinking more like our kid would be a teenager by then. I don't know. They don't need a babysitter when you're a teenager. You're right. I don't know. I'm learning this whole parenting thing.

I don't know. Oh my God, I did. Maybe I just wanted her. Yeah. I don't know. What's the difference? thing I don't know oh my god I did maybe I just wanted her yeah no I didn't like having a babysitter like I want obviously like you'd rather have your mom there right but then it is like a different you feel like

cooler like oh my god look at my babysitter yeah they like drive you around yeah okay yeah I was like 13 yeah hold on to your kilts, dearies. Peacock original The Traitors is back with a new season of strategy, betrayal,

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a plot in Alan's graveyard. Find out why critics and audiences alike are raving about the Emmy award-winning series The New York Times is calling it a murder mystery with clothes to die for and Vox adding that it should be your new reality TV obsession. We are certainly obsessed. Stream every episode of Traders Now only on Peacock. Ladies and gentlemen. What are you doing?

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of it already. We need some oomph. All right, then fine. Let's try to do it with your voice. Bravo, bros. Good job. Ariana Grande changed

her original cover artwork of yours truly. Yeah, she says, well, it's horrible. It's not horrible. It is. You were right. You guys got very angry

when you saw it. I was very sad about that and i changed it you were right but you're not always right your bullying has been consistent for the past 10 years wow what a sentence i feel like that's stemming from spongebob boy and she maybe has some pent-up anger she's a homewrecker well yeah yeah there's no other way to put that like okay, okay, yeah. She has a track record. I'm sure people said some real out-of-pocket things to her, but, like, she did break up a marriage. Has his wife spoke out? Yeah. She did.

Mm-hmm. Do we know what she said? She called her not a girl's girl. Yeah. She was basically... I mean, they would, like, go out to dinner, like, all three of them. They double dated. Yeah.

She said her family was just collateral damage for Ariana. Because apparently Ariana held their baby. Well she's gonna be holding a lot more now. What? Hi mama. I saw someone say and now I can't remember who it was. You know it's like but we all I'm sorry finish your thought. I think it was you actually. What did I say?

That like he he's the worst kind of guy because this is like the first time he's probably had someone of obviously of her stature hit on him and it took like that was it two seconds yeah was it you maybe i don't know i say a lot of things like yes it was me and i was like wow that's a great way to look at it and put it like like because think about it i'm sure no one ever hit on him in high school like you know he's like a theater person it's not it like it's like because think about it. I'm sure no one ever hit on him in high school. Like, you know, he's like a theater person.

It's not the he's not like a big macho, whatever. And here he probably this is the first time he's ever had like someone like Ariana Grande hitting on him. And that's all it took for him to blow up his whole life. Like grow up. But also, I feel like there's been a lot of discourse about how like the one straight guy in the theater scene gets like oh yeah so much attention so I think it could be like still a similar thing

I wasn't aware of that like whole thing it's kind of crazy the way they describe it but it makes sense because the boys could do no wrong one straight guy in the entire kind of group right like oh you're and it's like it's like the bachelor like your focus is you... And it's like... It's like The Bachelor.

Like, your focus is so different because there's like one straight dude. He's singing. It's a community and it's tight. Everyone's friends, you know, band camp, whatever type of stuff. But you have one option a day. I just don't want my boyfriend to be able to do a split.

You know, and I don't want him to be splitting around. I'm going to agree, yeah. I don't know. You shouldn't be able to split. Close your legs. Did you see this move, the wiggle he did on stage? Yeah, I don't... Don't be Splitting around Close your legs The wiggle he did on stage Don't be a salmon I don't want it

But yeah Unfortunately she has that And I love her music I love her as a celebrity pop star I love watching her Arguably the best voice ever created Ever, seriously Listen we've all At some point in our life Like I love watching her. Arguably the best voice ever created. Ever. Seriously.

Listen, we've all at some point in our life have been guilty of wanting what we can't have. Yep. Absolutely. We've been there. But it's just like her being who she is, knowing that she can literally kind of get almost anyone she wants. And then having the abuse of power, having the track record that she does have yeah it's one thing to do it you know in your early 20s or whatever i don't know and like on my bad but yeah it's one thing yeah to have like a mess up where you're like wow that like actually just i shouldn't have done that that really just and then you learn from it and then you grow from it

and then it never happens again but like she's it like three or four times. Yeah, that's crazy. I'm an anxious girl. So like, you have to love that type of anxiety. I feel like it's like sneaking around and someone... And then trying to sell it as,

oh, they were already broken up and she's just always available. She's just always there for the rebound. I don't know. I just feel like Ariana has had trauma, like capital T trauma, like yeah both like the loss of Mac Miller and then like the Manchester

bombing situation like she's had some fucked up shit happen and I feel like it's she needs like this kind of like hyper intense like situation and emotional stimulation for it to be like full escapism because I think she has like a lot of shit that it would be really hard to just nailed it though like full escapism because I think she has like a lot of shit that it would be really hard to watch through. You just nailed it though like full

escapism and like being involved in other people's drama that like yeah. Yeah maybe who is a girl's girl Selena Gomez and she just has a new do you just hear her new song which is pretty good it's catchy. You listen to it? I haven't listened to it yet. I did this morning. On the way to get you

coffee. Wait who did Ariana Grande do this to prior uh she did kazzy david uh with pete davidson and then mac miller was and then uh i think there are allegations nothing is like confirmed but yeah and with it with kazzy timing with kazzy it was a lot of like it was like the next day he wasn't like i guess it's in her book but he called her up and like was like hey I'm dating someone new and if that was the one-off situation you would go hey maybe it was just yeah things

but then there is speculation with Big Sean there's speculation with Mac Miller and then there's speculation with Spongebob Spongebob crazy that honestly is crazy and he plays Spongebob and he looks like Spongebob and a brother and I was the first one to say that

I said that on our fucking show and then someone made a meme about it like a week later and it went viral I was like he looks really like her fucking brother and then like a week later that meme came out and it went fucking crazy that I wanted credit for I didn't know that was her actual brother

I thought that was just someone who acted like her. You know how those super fans were like, no, I'm changing my last name. I'm related. Oh my god. I also thought Frankie Jonas was just a fan. A fake. Just a sham. All these siblings.

What's your real last name? Frankie? Because I know it's not Jonas. That's so wholesome and so cute. Whose sibling did you pretend to be? Oh, I like made up. No, no, no. I told everyone my real name was Bridget and I just went by Natalie. I was like, I wanted to be named Bridget so bad.

That's so funny. Yeah. Well, I had a question, Paige, about like, I know it's been a little bit of time since the reunion. Yeah. But I was really curious because we talk so much on the, about like, I know it's been a little bit of time since the reunion. Yeah. But I was really curious because we talk so much on the show about like dating and relationships and specifically the role that like friends can play. So for anybody who's like not familiar with the Summer House stuff, and please correct

me, when Carl and Lindsay got engaged and when Carl was planning a surprise engagement, he excluded like her best friend, Danielle, who like the three of them had all been super close it was like a huge snub and I feel like tension underlying tensions kind of came to a head and Lindsay and Danielle had like a very big fight over this like their friendship kind of like disintegrated and I'm curious for you like as someone who was kind of outside of that but obviously like knows people so well and has an opinion what was your kind of take on like the end when they were sort of like, oh, we got dinner after the reunion? Like, do you think that kind of thing is like forgivable and that you can fully move on

from it after feuding in that way? That like Danielle can forgive or that Carl can forgive or all in general? Mostly Danielle forgiving, but also in general. But just break it down for us. Yeah. Not to like fully break break the fourth wall but i think in terms of like filming a reality show yes we will fight about certain things but at the end of the day we all have this very weird bond because what

we're doing is very fucking weird so yes they can fight about like him not in not telling danielle which in my opinion he was like putting her in our category of like the other girls and they kept saying like oh like well i didn't you're like one of the other girls now and like which was so rude to us and nobody even like said anything about it but i was was like very offended. Like, OK, I'm not like running around and going to ruin someone's engagement and like tell her. But anyway, that's like a side thing. But I think because they were fighting, Carl was nervous that if he did tell Danielle about it, that she would have been so like, don't do this, don't propose. So he was kind of trying to avoid that in addition to, yes, what if she then went and told Amanda and then Amanda went and told me and then and then like

Lindsay heard about it. So I do see both sides, them going out to dinner after the reunion. I don't think anything of it because at the end of the day like we're filming a show and we just we sat there for eight hours and we just made all of this content and we like fought about stupid stuff like let's just like get over it and we are I would say probably one of the closest shows on Bravo like we are in a group chat that is going off all the time and we know sometimes like okay We have to fight about this and we have to do it on camera and it has to be Not like we're acting or anything, but like yeah, we're gonna say how we like really feel and it might be really harsh But yeah, we go and have a drink after the reunion Okay

So when we do you find it to be almost like therapeutic because you can make the argument is someone like for me I'm if you know me, you know that I'm more honest to a fault Yeah, then not or it's just like it's not to pretend to not care and let's just not be disingenuous But like to your point as I always kind of just try to like articulate how reality Yeah, how reality TV is to people which which is kind of what you just said. You just don't pull any punches You just you just say what's on your mind. Yeah. And you kind of get used to it.

And to that end, you know, because a lot of people are freaking out, you know, with Vanderpump, you know, Ariana's like, I'll never talk to Tom. And with Valhalla being so like vicious to Tom and Rachel, and then there's pictures of them like hanging out and she's gonna be like, I'll never speak to you again. And they're kind of hanging out. But to your point, it's just like there's fighting on camera and it's not disingenuous, but they're being their most, if I could be a 10, I'm going to be a 10. I'm not going to, I'm not going to worry about like being in public at a doctor's office

together at a bar. And I'm not going to worry about like saying something that might hurt your feelings for the sake. I'm just going to say exactly how I feel. Yeah, and the most colorful way And yeah, you just kind of get used to it There's also like a thousand conversations that would never happen in real life, but we're making a TV show So like they're gonna happen. So it's just like weird in general So I think Lindsay and Danielle will be friends again.

Like, I think that they will be absolutely fine. And I think in like 20 years when things come out about our show or like whatever, like we'll still all be friends. So even when Lindsay is like, because I feel like there were I don't know if she straight up said, like, I don't like you to Sierra, but just kind of like alluded to being like, we don't get along. So that's like a little bit more of like a heightened dynamic for the camera than it is. Like, if we pass in the hallway, we would have nothing to say to each other. It's not even like a heightened dynamic for the camera. It's just like you're you can be so in the moment and just be like where I've I've done that where I'm just like, fuck you. But like, at the end of the day, do I actually hate that person?

Like not at all. And also like it just takes so much energy to stay angry. For sure. It's an exhausting feeling. Yeah. Anger. It's exhausting. And after a while, you're just like, I don't care.

You know, like I, you know. It's kind of true. Like happy people really don't care. Like don't want to hold a grudge because you're just like i don't like i have so much other stuff going on like i wish you the best like and i do feel like our cast is kind of good at having these like explosive moments and fully saying how we feel and then getting over it and be like being like let's move on next topic what is your favorite thing about being in a long distance relationship because most people will you know we were talking to our one buddy uh justin glaze last week's guest justin likes to complain about

a single life and how you can't find anyone and it's like you can't be that good looking and you not be the problem. Right. He also is like, I will never do long distance. I'm not interested. I don't want to do that at all. His whole big thing was like, I can't find someone in LA. I won't do long distance. I never thought that I was going to like long distance.

And I probably wouldn't have in my early 20s because I feel like I was not needy, but like I liked going to sleep in the same bed every night and whatever. I think I like long distance because like Monday through Friday, you have to get shit done. Like you have to wake up, go to work, like whatever, do all these things. And I like a certain amount of time to like decompress, be alone, evaluate what I'm doing, like and not be distracted by certain things I like to watch my own shows like so like to have two days where you are full like by yourself I think is really mentally healthy so it's only two days a week that you're not I mean me and Craig honestly I feel like you can't really go by hour long distance schedule because like the longest we've not seen each other is like 10 days because that's kind of i mean babe i love spending every moment with you yeah and if it weren't for

you i could i could see why a relationship where every week you get two or three days off yeah is kind of money but definitely not in my case. Like, my relationship would be the exception. That sounds so amazing. Not for me, but I would love every second of that. But I love missing... No, it's not... When we were long distance, it was... When we...

The anticipation of seeing each other would be so awesome. And I genuinely feel that, like, when I'm with him, I'm 10 times more present because I will know like, OK, Craig flies in tomorrow morning. I need to get all of this done so that I'm not like thinking about it tomorrow. I'm going to get all this to do list. And then when he gets there, I'm like, what do you want to do today? Like, so I do feel like there are certain things that are very intentional about it. Also, like your sex life, like you miss that person.

I know for a fact out of a lot of my friends, I 1000% have the best sex life. I believe maybe not the best, but like I think I have a very strong sex life than compared to my friends. very strong sex life than compared to my friends. Do you ever look at celebrity couples and want there to just be like a camera in the bedroom? Like just out of curiosity, like what is who like who would my celebrity couple be that I'm like would watch their OnlyFans? Yes. Yes.

Probably. Wow. That's a really good one. Very interested to know what Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher are doing no I would love to see that I would love to see that I who else oh my god I feel like um Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds I'd love to know what they're doing like they made a lot of babies yeah and they're so playful and they so like, I love when they troll each other. So I would love to know what their dynamic is.

Is he like sweet and romantic in the bedroom? Or is he also like a little trolly? Yeah. Trolly. A little trolly. Because he trolls her on social media. So is he a little bit mean? Yeah.

And bad? Yeah. He's like like I got your nose do you think he dirty talks yeah like who dirty talks in Hollywood cause that is a vulnerable fucking place to be me and Hannah were just talking about this and we were saying like what's the worst thing you could hear in bed

and mine was the word what oh my god that's so true like it's never said something and someone's like wait what now it's so awkward it's like I didn't even want to say it in the first place but now it's like I can say it again I was so conscious

forget it and you also try to say it like a low like sexy voice I will say though, every time, I feel like I've definitely said what to Craig and he's repeated himself. He'll be like, no, you need to hear this. I feel very passionate about this right now. In this moment, yeah.

Yeah, no, that's so true. Do you, well question ladies for the dirty talking that you do, because what you said made me think of this question how authentic is your dirty talk that's a great question no that's a great question i say a lot of shit that if you actually started doing i'd be like bro fuck away from me because i feel like most guys in the moment yeah it's that kind of that that dick phase or haze or whatever you call it. What's the opposite of post nut clarity?

Right, right, right. No, I'm saying things that I know he gets him going but I know he's not gonna actually do it. The things guys say they in the moment think they mean and think they want only to like

immediately afterwards be like i'm so sorry i did not it's kind of like when you watch porn and then it's your job you're finished then you're like that's disgusting that's so true that is so true yeah no it's not really authentic at all i don't think everything i say is a lie i mean not everything but there are a few things that i'm just like logistically that wouldn't even work so obviously i don't mean it you know i'm like put me on the ceiling yeah it's like i can't get up there i just wish people would like share resources a little bit more with 30 talk like, you know how sometimes there'll be those like Excel spreadsheets or it's like all the best restaurants or all the best like open mics in the city. Like, I would love an Excel spreadsheet for all the girlies out there to like put down phrases that have worked. That we're doing.

Because it's really hard beta testing alone. You know, like I feel like because it's like I'm not like I don't focus group it the way I focus group other things in my life. Right. Sometimes my girlfriends, they'll send each other nudes and be like, should I send this one? Is this a good one? And we'll talk about it. Really? We rarely are saying, what are you saying in bed to each other?

Can you change this up? The only nudes I send are ones to my sister being like, incoming, is this a rash or should I be concerned? send are like ones to my sister being like incoming is this a rash or should I be concerned I couldn't imagine sending a nude preview to my buddy okay in my early

should I hold it this way or should I hold it that way in my early 20s I had a girlfriend where I would make her send me her nudes and I would send those yeah she'd be like yeah I don't care I would make her send me her nudes and I would send those. Yeah.

And she'd be like, yeah, I don't care. Because I just couldn't take them. I was like, it's just I can't. I'm laughing too much. It's just it's not for me. And she'll be like, just send this. It looks my head's not in it. You wouldn't even know. And I'm like, look, you're a good friend.

Did you ever get called out for it? No. How would they know? How would they know? true have you ever said like no in the bedroom Nick will be like do you want to get on top

I'm like no but how do you make it hot you're like I think I just start doing something else maybe this instead what if I just start doing something else I'm like maybe just maybe this instead what if I just went total missionary and laid on my back

what if I didn't move at all let's keep doing that you don't like that? yeah no I feel like I yeah cause if I'm tired no yeah it's like yeah why won't you ride I'm like no I can't I'm so sorry because they're in such a position

where they have to be like okay yep just adjust move on yeah yeah like there's nothing they can do about it in the moment they're like okay got it sorry make it work designers no that was like the article and it was like this this like trail horse or whatever lays down and pretends to be dead every time someone tries to ride it and someone retweeted it and was like when he tells me to get on top nope sorry i'm dead so true it is exhausting yeah i'm like we have jobs we're tired too you know truly like i have a lot going on in my head i can also think about about like the pain in my legs and like cramping. I actually literally almost died the other day during sex. I think I

actually had a cyst burst. Oh my god. One of the craziest feelings in my life. I literally started screaming, crying. He's like, yeah! Craig literally thought he broke me. I was like, no. And then. Meanwhile, he's looking in the mirror being like you're a stud This is the best part

So then I go to the bathroom And I'm like no something is happening I've never felt this before I think I have to Go to the hospital And like if I didn't live in New York City And he could have just like put me in a car I probably would have gone to the emergency room Because it was a pain I'd never experienced

Before in my life. Craig got so paranoid that I was going to die like or pass out, hit my head and that he was going to get blamed for like my murder. Like this is all going through his head as I'm sitting on the toilet, like holding my stomach. He keeps going, please call your mom and to at least tell her this is going on like what if something happens like they're gonna think i did it and i'm like they're not gonna think he like starts recording he's like i'm really worried she's sick she's not feeling well it's not me well i mean if you were to die he is suspect number one right he thinks about it a lot that's like i'm like are you planning my murder? Right. Yeah. When I watched the movie The Fugitive at like six or years old.

Yeah. I had anxiety for a week about like being falsely accused of murder and being sent to death row. Oh my God. Oh my God. You got all the way to death row? Wow. Well, so did Harrison Ford.

It felt like it was. Yeah. Give me something to worry about. I'll worry about it it was. Yeah. Give me something to worry about. I'll worry about it. Yeah. Yeah. So he's really worried that someday I'm going to die and he'll be blamed for it. Did you get it figured out?

Like, did you go to an OBGYN? Yeah. Are you OK? I have a doctor's appointment actually tomorrow. Yeah. Something's happening. Yeah. It's a good vibe.

Thanks. Everything's great. I feel like 15 minutes. I was fine, but it was a real doozy because then i'm calming him down you know i'm like don't worry you're not gonna be framed for my murder but our emotional needs are specific very specific very niche it was a very niche moment that was happening yeah okay all right did you see that for the renaissance tour beyonce told everyone she was like virgo season is upon us uh my birthday wishes to celebrate with you wearing your most fabulous

silver fashions to the shows like everyone is like rocking up in like the metallic disco ball vibes and i was wondering for you guys either one like thoughts on that specific one or if you were going to theme a concert like create a theme for all the concert goers what prompt would you give can I say something unpopular absolutely not a huge concert person really I'm

I like a good concert we went to Zach Bryan recently love Harry Styles I want to go to his tour but in general like I don't just love anyone went to Beyonce went to Taylor Swift both blew my mind amazing can't believe they do it first thing I'm thinking is

okay I need to leave 30 minutes early and both concerts I left at the perfect time and got back to the city in like 20 minutes and that was more invigorating than the entire concert than the entire concert i get it like everyone called me like how was the concert i'm like

let me tell you something i got out of met life in 20 minutes and that was like the story so i'm not a huge i don't know i'm just not a huge concert person i like i love a good concert but i agree with you that there's a lot of them. I don't. Well, it's hard to imagine a cat at a concert. I feel like you guys are both kind of like cat energy. My biggest nightmare is like getting up and singing and dancing in front of people like I I don't know what to do at a concert. Like I get I'm too uncomfortable to be there. I feel like that's totally how Nick is because I try to like dance or sing and i'll look at him and i know every word to all these songs and i like i want

you to look at me as i'm like we should want to double date because so many similarities craig no craig will sing she knows every song to every word and i'll be like i'll like take nick by the hand and like be singing to him and he just is looking off. I don't even want to dance at weddings. I get awkward dancing at weddings and Craig will get so like, please come. I have to really be coerced. Because I just get uncomfy.

Weddings are definitely worse than a concert. Just because there's always never really that many people on the dance floor. I just can't do it. I love a good wedding dance floor, but yeah, at a concert I get uncomfortable. I start sweating.

I get nervous. It's also awkward in a concert if you're not on the GA pit because then you're just in seats and you're standing beside the person and so you're just holding hands. It's like swinging. How do you dance in seated it's tough yeah it's very tough to like enjoy yeah and then if you try to go in front you're squished and it's very middle school-ish yeah and then i feel like old just

like sitting and watching a concert i'm like how old am i stand up like yeah i don't know how golden retrievers that that personality i'm very envious of because i'm always thinking i need to be self-aware because like my resting personality is not like socially acceptable yeah and it's not that it's like mean or like cold it's just like i don't know honestly i will always say like craig's beige flag is like he'll get excited about anything immediately like you could tell him anything and he's supporting you 100 like that's cool you're so excited your cousin's like that and you tell me something and i'm like well yeah that's totally how nick is i told him a brand idea the other day i'm like this is riv. I literally woke up in the middle of the night,

wrote this down in my notes app. It is a great idea. It's like the go-to saying, whatever. He's like, well, you know, I think if you're going to do that. I'm like planning it. I'm like, all right. If you're going to do that, you'd have to do it. I'm like, okay, shut the fuck up

and just say that's an amazing idea. The other day, Craig was like, what if I bought a race horse? How fun would that be? And I'm like okay shut the fuck up and just say that's an amazing idea the other day Craig was like what if I bought a racehorse how fun would that be and I'm like okay lose my number what are you talking about Natalie has a horse but it's like opposite but that is

I so believe in opposites attract because if I were to date someone like me insufferable so cynical like we would never leave the home. I'd be like, fuck those people out there. This is the worst. Like he really does make me enjoy. Yeah, like make me enjoy things

and take me out of my comfort zone and be like, he will make me dance at like the wedding. And then I'll be like, I'm so happy you made me do that. A lot of fun. It's not about being the same person. It's about enjoying doing the same things and enjoying being around each other.

It's like we went to Times Square yesterday and I used to live in New York when I was 15. I moved here by myself to be a model. Also, we were in Times Square to look at my billboard. It was on a billboard. We weren't getting dinner.

We weren't pictures. We weren't waiting in line on my billboard it was on a billboard we were like hanging out we were just like hanging out we take subways in New York you were waiting in line at Olive Garden yes thank you I just want to clarify no I figured

you were doing something okay that's crazy but so I moved here and I lived here by myself and basically the only I like didn't do well

with like the model girls like they weren't very nice so I became friends with these street performers, dancers. Street dancers. True story. How did you meet them? I was walking by and saw them performing.

So I watched the show. And then I was like that. Being from the South, I talk to everyone. So nice. Oh my gosh, I love that. And we all just kind of kicked it. And they're like, we're here every night. I'm like, I'll be here.

I have nothing to do. I'll come to do this is so wholesome and sweet i would go to time square every day and just like sit and watch their show and we all became friends i lived in harlem so like they would walk me home because i got mugged all the time they became kind of like they like protected me moving living here at 15 and modeling, that's terrifying. Terrifying. Yeah. You must have grown up so much. How long did you live here for?

Like a year and a half, two years. Oh, my God. Yeah, I feel like that was my party stage in life. Yeah. Because I was in like One Oak at 15 with like drugs. And I'd be like, oh, my God, guys, I have to go home. Like I have to be at like i have i have to i have to be at time squared no that's like a full adult like i like you know you have to like work

the next day right you have to get home yeah they were there last night we go to time square to look at they remember you and i see them yes and so i'm like first of all i'm like let's just go and like watch the show like we'll just stand in the back kind of then when they're done i'll say hi one of them is like they bring people out to like do a flip over you know yeah yeah i know so they fucking grab me my nightmare we follow each other on instagram so he's like see nick he's like i know this girl i know this guy pulls nick out to do it then they start like asking everyone for money. Nick is literally like has $4 cash. And they're like, I need $20 from everyone in this line.

And he's like, excuse me, sir, where are you from? He's like, Nick's like LA. He's like, oh, LA, I know you got money, man. You look like an actor or something. He's like $50 from you. And I immediately go, absolutely not. Don't try and milk my man. He's like, you're right.

I'm sorry. And then did he, but did he know it was you okay yes oh my god what are the chances standing center stage in the middle of this thing no no no no I was truly like pulling out be a good sport card yeah he was but it was

also kind of endearing to see they also like haven't changed like I was like quoting their show I remember that it's like you haven't switched up your script at all don't fix it yeah you know and i was it was interesting because it truly it's time square i mean right there were people from kuwait uh romania albania uh china like it was truly a melting pot and so it's like really good Those are a lot of the people watching it. Ecuador.

Craig loves watching the street perform. There is no place else that living here, you just take certain things for granted. You just keep walking down the street. That's every single day. Where he genuinely will get so fascinated by certain things. We need to introduce Cole to. Yeah, we do. My cousin Cole.

We were in. They're the same person. Really? I'm hearing them. Yeah. Yeah. We were in Georgia. We were in Dublin and we're like walking the streets and there's like a pull up bar in

the middle and there's it's I guess impossible to hold from the pull-up bar for a minute or something. It spins and it's a certain thickness that you can't hang on it for more than a few seconds. But I wanted to sit there and watch everyone try. I had so much fun. Yeah. And it's like, do you want to like explore Dublin? And I'm like,

I feel like this is it right here. I don't know. You're people watching. I'm loving this. Yeah. Are you kidding? Yeah. So I feel like I'm definitely a person who like loves to watch the street performers and

yeah it gets me out of my shell well they're the most charismatic people and that's like that's a good balance because i would never like go and do certain things if it wasn't for him being like come on like this will be fun do you ever being who you are do you ever sit and then like wish that you were more like your boyfriend sometimes and that kind of energy or are you comfortable being the cat you are so to speak because there are times where i'll ask myself which is like why are you the way you are yeah you know like like what yeah loosen up absolutely there are definitely times where i'm comfortable in like I I feel like I'm more content being by myself and like being alone than other people. Like I can sit with my own thoughts and like be fine and like entertain myself for an entire night. wish i was a little bit more like personable like him and i wish i could just like walk into a crowd and immediately start talking and like make friends and not feel awkward and like people

like me like you know like my initial thought like if i walked into a group of people would be like okay they probably aren't gonna like me or they probably already don't like me so let how am i gonna pivot that yeah you know where he walks in he's like what's up got like everyone's his best friend and I'm like I wish I had that I'm very envious of that kind of energy and personality yeah but like it's also just well he has no anxiety I feel like he rarely gets anxious where like I'm yeah a ball of it is he from the south? He's from Delaware. Delaware? How do you end up down there?

I didn't even know people lived there. Yeah. It's honestly so peaceful. Oh. Grew up in Delaware and then went to college in Charleston

and then just stayed from college but loves Charleston. Loves it. What's he do down there? He owns a home decor company so it's called Sewing Down South.

Okay. Yeah. And it has like the cutest little storefront. Can we go visit him when we're down there? Absolutely. He would love it. His store is right on King Street. Do you guys have the same interior design taste?

Yes and no. Like he was redoing his house and he let me like Hire an interior designer and he was like whatever You want to do and there are certain Things like I'll show him and he will Like but he definitely trusts Me more like he did give me A compliment the other day and he was like I just feel like I've

Learned so much dating You like certain Like decor things or just certain I don't know you know think that i don't know certain things i mean it is mind-blowing as a guy like how much i and i like to think of my i've always been into fashion to a certain degree like i'm definitely not your over masculine macho car and hunting guy right but just like the woman's touch so to speak yeah it's like mind blowing just how little i know when it comes to just general taste yeah and just how much

i've become aware of that having dated like sometimes i'll do something and craig will just be like wow that just looks so cute and so good like it'll be like my coffee table yeah just like wow this is just like so nice and i would never have thought yeah yeah and it's really something and we kind of like don't realize we're doing it like because it's just like a natural thing yeah or like even like putting an outfit together or something sometimes i'll be like wow how'd you think of that i'm like it's just a shirt and pants but thank you so but it's really mind-blowing i just i just realized just how vanilla and ordinary yeah my taste was it's kind of gross anyway uh page we this is so much fun yeah thank you so much thank you so much for coming next time you come back to new york we'll plan a dinner i would love that yeah we would love that yeah i'm like and if i come out to la yeah please let's be friends i

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