The Viall Files - E64 Nose Jobs with Morgan Stewart

Episode Date: November 27, 2019

Morgan Stewart, co-host of Daily Pop and Nightly Pop on E!, joins Nick to talk about being newly single. They discuss the importance of feeling safe while dating in the public eye, plastic surgery in ...Hollywood, and how men and women fight differently. Stand at the bottom of a (dm) slide with your arms open! Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS:  ZOLA: http://zola.com/viall ANCESTRY DNA: https://www.ancestry.com/podcast BEST FIENDS: https://download.bestfiends.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 happy wednesday vile file listeners vi-fi's we call them vi-fi's you guys are now vi-fi's by the way so now you know uh i've. I think every hit podcast has like their listeners call themselves a certain thing. There's been a couple options, some of which I was like. They sounded a little violent or something. You could really easily mess up is my point. Yeah. We're going to go with the Wi-Fi's, I feel like. Let me know if you guys love it, hate it. I don't know. Great episode point. Yeah. We're going to go with the Wi-Fi's, I feel like. Let me know if you guys love it, hate it.
Starting point is 00:00:46 I don't know. Great episode today. Yeah. Morgan Stewart joins us. And Morgan and I have become friends since her interview. Oh, have you hung out? No. We have not.
Starting point is 00:00:59 But I thought we won't or haven't, but she's cool. You really hit it off, I thought. She's cool people. She's fun to talk to. I learned a lot about her. She's obviously building a very successful career at E, and she got her start being one of the rich kids of Beverly Hills. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I've said this to Morgan since we had very different childhoods. Yes, yes. We come from different walks of life. But here you are doing kind of the same thing we are um she's very fun and funny and interesting has a fashion line she's doing a lot of things very impressive hard yeah very impressive woman it's a lot of fun very relatable and fun just interesting conversations uh i think you guys will enjoy well guys i think you're really gonna enjoy this episode it's amazing it's fun
Starting point is 00:01:46 I really enjoyed having Morgan as a guest so much that we've become friends and I hope that you will feel like Morgan is your friend as well don't forget to rate us five stars on iTunes I feel like you guys have been slacking merch is available vilefiles.com get it while it's hot supplies are limited
Starting point is 00:02:07 but i swear to god i have a sincere question about mercury and retrograde because it's always appears to be in retrograde it is it is quite every time there's a fucking problem i will say weirdly enough i woke up this morning and it kind of creeped me out i'm not very superstitious but i woke up and pulled the shirt off my uh closet and the now granted this has happened before so not the first time the the rail fell and all the clothes right mercury super like annoyed and then and then i opened up the kitchen as i'm making my vegetable smoothie and for the first time ever for the first time, the rail on the fridge just fell and all the things fell in the fridge.
Starting point is 00:02:50 That was weird. And then I took a shower and my little squeegee thing, which again, this has happened before too, also fell. And I'm like, in 20 minutes, I've had three things just kind of fucking break. That's really, that's like mercury. That's also like mercury mixed with a ghost. Like somebody doesn't fucking like you. Do you believe in ghosts?
Starting point is 00:03:06 I don't know if I believe in ghosts, but I believe in spirits. I believe that people still kind of follow you. Am I allowed to say fuck? Yeah, please. We invite that. I don't do things that don't allow me to say bad words. We get the occasional wonderful person
Starting point is 00:03:19 who criticizes our vocabulary from time to time, but we embrace it. But that's the point, right? We want people to be uncomfortable or you're not memorable say fuck on your on your job i say fuck on my job um i say fuck on my nighttime show they bleep it the daytime show is live so i don't there's no fucks when we do this there was a fuck last week and it was quickly gone yeah do you find that a good bleep is sometimes even more impactful than the actual
Starting point is 00:03:46 word fuck yeah i like i like a good yeah i'm trying to think if it's there's a set like i'm trying to think or is it just i'm trying to think of myself being played back if it's a bleep or if it's just like a taken out on your night show yeah man being live must be hard being live is really hard pretending to concentrate come up with answers, pretending to care about some of the things you're talking about. I'm like, oh my God. But somehow I do it well. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:04:12 So well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, thanks for coming. That was a wonderful little intro. Introduction? Thanks for having me. I like we jump right into it. Well, because I was just here because I did the morning toast.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yes, I have been made aware of that. And we talked about you. I also have been made aware of that. And we talked about you. I also have been made aware of that. Which I don't know how it came up. I think maybe they were saying that this is like your studio or something and then they were talking to me about your sign and then we got all into you. I think they were
Starting point is 00:04:37 trying to figure out who you maybe would be interested in dating. Right. You left that part out. Right, which I wasn't, I didn't really remember until you just mentioned it. You then proceeded to poke at an insecurity of mine. And that insecurity of mine is the fact that I was on The Bachelor.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And I am my own toughest critic and I judge myself for going on the show. Okay. And I naturally assume that there's a certain type of person who sticks their nose up at that reality and interesting enough there i was the first name they brought up and they said nick from the bachelor and your immediate reaction was like fuck no and it had to do hold on hold on and and again i could tell that that that only reaction was not really knowing who the fuck i was it was that it was of an alumni
Starting point is 00:05:33 because then they asked anyone from bachelor nation you're like oh my god please uh and quite honestly i would if i were outside of it would probably say the same thing it's an insecurity of mine it proceeded to get nicer. Oh, okay. We ended up on a really nice room, but you know what? You're right because I actually did a reality show that doesn't have the
Starting point is 00:05:50 best name and not that the bachelor has a bad name, but it was, it's not something that I'm the most proud of. And it is something that I'm actually equally insecure about. So I should have been a little bit more tuned into that and sympathetic to you and not have judged you right off the bat. But I liked you when I found out. I don't mind. Yes, there was that there was that i mean listen that's it is people judge i think that's
Starting point is 00:06:11 just a reality of the world and even if yeah it's like it's nice to be like oh i'm insecurities and i shouldn't judge but i think we usually judge especially even more in the things that we would judge on ourselves. Well, hello. Yeah. Very well said. I agree. Even now, it's just like I can say that knowing that it's an insecurity of mine and that if someone said, hey, I think you should meet so-and-so, and they found out they were, say, on a reality TV show
Starting point is 00:06:41 that maybe had a reputation at times for maybe being a little reality TV-ish. I don't know. I would probably be like, just that would be my initial reaction. Yeah, I know. But I know. But it doesn't make it right. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Doesn't make it right, but we do it. It also ended up with me being here. Yeah, look at you both. Isn't that how that happened? You both pivoted. You hit me up in the DM real quick after that. I've heard, well, actually, i didn't know at the time i had heard your name floated in around scary and as as well what did you hear like how just in passing i'm like what is it tell me everything
Starting point is 00:07:15 no i mean you're just some you're well quite honestly just that you're an interesting hard-working person in the industry and we're i'm always looking for interesting people that i are good talkers on the show and then like you know you're in the news here And I'm always looking for interesting people that are good talkers on the show. And then like, you know, you're in the news here and there, you have a little Instagram. And I'm like, ah, this seems like someone who might be interesting to listen to.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Right, might be, yeah. And then I was made aware of the morning toast and I went back and looked at that. I said, well timing makes makes a makes a lot of sense um you obviously are very successful i i googled this you know actually rochelle did a lot of recon sent me your bio and it was long it was long it was long and and in a great way of that you're you're very busy i am doing a lot of things yes i'm doing all the things right now very very busy in a very short amount of time throughout the day.
Starting point is 00:08:06 So like I have very early mornings and I end, I shouldn't say end early, right? Crystal, that's not good for me to say because I don't end early. I'm there quite all day long, actually, for whatever reason. And even if I'm not done really working, I still have to take a photo. And that takes an hour. Yeah. You know, it's a lot of work. It takes an hour?
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yeah. Well, for me, it does. I somehow, it's very challenging for me to get a good Instagram photograph. Well, I mean, I. It's not easy. No, it's a lot of work. It takes an hour. Yeah. Well, for me it does. I somehow, it's very challenging for me to get a good Instagram photograph. Well, I mean, I, it's not easy. No,
Starting point is 00:08:29 it's not. And I don't know my aim, but every day I'm like, do you do one every day? No, basically. Um, we were talking about the morning show,
Starting point is 00:08:40 the new Apple TV show. Yeah. And, and I asked her if it was similar and she said she related. I do. It's accurate. It's worth watching. It is very good.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And I mean, just from down to how they get into the building with the badges. I mean, the badge is like the biggest problem of my day because I can never remember it. But I don't get up at 3.30. I get up at 5 every single day. I do a morning show called Daily Pop for an hour, which is live from 9 to 10. And then I have a 30-minute turnaround and I go and I film a nighttime show, which is going four nights a week next week. And then I have an Instagram segment called Necessary Realness that I do. And then I have a Snapchat show called What the Fashion, which I film twice a week on Monday.
Starting point is 00:09:20 So it's just it's nonstop talking and filming. What's your favorite one nightly pop nightly pop was always kind of the goal and daily pop kind of happened by accident even though i love doing it and it's fun and it's definitely for whatever reason the the hardest one for me to do because it's just like straight celebrity news and i'm i want to be a little bit more off the cuff the nighttime show is a little bit more laid back, a little bit more like Chelsea Handler, which is what I've always wanted to do. As a very successful woman working, I know that you are recently relatively single. Yeah, very. Yes. Recently.
Starting point is 00:10:03 or even for myself, you know, how, is that something you're like, do you throw yourself into your work? Or do you, as a way to kind of like, I don't wanna worry about my personal life right now. Do you find that maybe even a way that sometimes it's an easy excuse to like, not focusing yourself on your personal life? And like, how is dating, do you think,
Starting point is 00:10:18 going forward for you now? Being so busy at work and how do you manage that? Because I feel like a lot of people do struggle with that. also the starting over because you were in a long long i was in a relationship for six years i was married for three years we've been split up for like six ish months still figuring it out maybe in the beginning and then just as of recently just really not speaking i feel like had i not had work during this process, it would have been really fucking hard and brutal. And I think I probably, you know, on the flip side for him, he works every day, but not as, you know, I have a schedule. I have to be on television. I have to look good. I have to be
Starting point is 00:10:54 awake. It's a very, I emotionally, you don't really have much room to not be at your best. And even if you're having a horrible day or you feel like shit, or you're crying, which I don't cry often, you still have to get up and be like, what about Selena Gomez? So I feel like that's really helped me in a lot of ways. But on the flip side of that, I don't know if I've maybe processed things as much as I probably should have by now. I think now I'm really starting to more than I did in the beginning. I also think I realized what really went wrong. But dating is tricky because I'm so not down to try with all these fuckboys out there. I was in a relationship for a long time and I feel like I deserve somebody great. I don't want to have to go through like, I don't want to be in the reality of having to
Starting point is 00:11:34 actually date and I have to get up at five. How do you plan on doing that? I don't know. I'm really stressed out about it actually. Like I want to just kind of float into the next person that's perfect. I feel lot a lot of people try to do that yeah so like negative dating kind i don't have time to date or try i just i just want them to show up no i want it like i want to put myself out there but i also feel like i am somebody that i haven't been single for six years and i was younger obviously then i had more time to do it now it's like i need my dates to be a little bit more formal, which is actually the opposite of my personality because I'm a little bit more fun and spontaneous. But like, if you want to go out with me, it needs to be at seven and we need to be done by 830.
Starting point is 00:12:16 830? Nine. What if it's going great? If it's going great, then I'm missing the morning meeting, but it better be going great. Well, how would you define a fuck boy? I'm missing the morning meeting, but it better be going great. Well, how would you define a fuck boy? Just somebody that like, you know, like we hook up or hang out one night and then he like, I'm in, I'm in the midst of like a lot of other texting that's going on.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Like if you want to only hook up with me, I'm fine with that. But let's consistently do that. Does that make sense? Yeah. But we don't have to have dinner, but then like be consistent. Don't like pop in. And then four weeks later when none of your other girls have worked out, you're texting me. Like I am not that bitch.
Starting point is 00:12:47 You don't want to be the. I don't want to. Like you need to be like. He's bored. I'm fine with it. If you want to have sex with me for two months and not have sex with me anymore, sign me up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:54 No problem. But don't have sex with me and then be like, okay, let's see who else I can have sex with and then try to come back. Like I won't respond. Yeah, that's fair. Is that fair? Yeah. You want like a part-time position, not like a freelance contract. I'm not at this point going to be in front respond. Yeah, that's fair. Is that fair? Yeah, you want like a part-time position, not like a freelance contractor.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I'm not at this point going to be in a seat. From expectations. Yeah. That's all. Right. Yeah. Is that not realistic? That's totally realistic.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Yeah. I mean, the part that might not be realistic is trying to bypass the unfortunate grind that comes in with dating. I know. Also, I feel like as we get older and you're probably a lot more in tune to the things that you like or dislike in your life.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And with that, there's probably a built-in expectation and therefore it makes sense to think, well, I don't wanna waste my time doing X, Y, or Z. Right. But on the flip side, you also have been kind of out of the dating world and seen for a while. So there probably, I'm guessing, is kind of a learning curve of this kind of like kind of just
Starting point is 00:13:50 getting to know this landscape so to speak it's like you want to like and i i get what you want to avoid that because it's like it's also like i'm also not that i am anybody so don't misunderstand what i'm saying i don't take myself seriously in any way but like i also want to meet people that like i don't know i want to be able to be myself and not have that turn into like somebody talking about that some way i don't know like i just i feel like i now need to be a little bit more protective of of me as a person versus before and that's not also my personality isn't like that either so it's just like i think they need to be vetted a little bit. Is that fair? They need to come highly recommended.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I mean, I talk about this a lot. My safety for me is a number one quality in terms of dating. Right. Well, that seems dramatic. No, it sounds dramatic. Is there a Taekwondo class before? No, for the same way you described. It's just like, I want to feel safe to be myself.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I want to feel safe to say whatever, do whatever in a place where this conversation is going to be between you and I. Not that it's going to be anything outlandish or crazy, but like- But just like, it's not going to be gossip for other people. It's not gossip. And it's not like a, it's, yeah, they don't, there's not an alternative motive. It's not like a fun, exciting thing for them motive it's not like a right a fun exciting thing for them it's just like i can just be a normal person right and the other person is going to
Starting point is 00:15:09 treat me like a normal person and that's sometimes not always easy but like i feel like you probably get hit up in dms all day every day i get the emails we have an email for people to send in questions it's constantly just people being like nick this is so crazy i never thought i'd do this i'm like what why are you doing this nobody are crazy nobody I never thought I'd do this. I'm like, what? Why are you doing this? People are crazy. Nobody hits me up on DM. Is that weird? Wait, really?
Starting point is 00:15:29 No. Are you bothered by that? No, absolutely. Why is no one DMing me? But do they know you're single? Have you put yourself out there? Like my tits? What do I do?
Starting point is 00:15:41 Is your audience women? Like his audience is all women. So it works out for him. See, that's your problem. I don't, yeah. How do I? You don't want women? Like his audience is all women. So it works out for him. See, that's your problem. I don't, yeah. How do I? You don't want this problem. It's not the same. No, but the only way to get more male followers is to like be like more naked.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And it's like, I just want to be better dressed. From my understanding, when it comes to Instagram, male followers don't have much value other than the occasional dick pic. I don't even get a dick pic. We don't have guy followers, but women followers are their currency in the fact that they are more interested and compelling and they care about what you want to talk about. You have your fashion line and you can sell to them.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Yeah, that's fine. I need to date people too. So DM me. If you have a check mark, DM me. So wait, wait. I'm kidding. You want to meet your future Prince Charming on Instagram? No, but I mean, a little bit of attention that way shouldn't be so hard.
Starting point is 00:16:27 I mean, what is the deal? I'm quite certain after this podcast, you might have a few people will shoot their shot. Yeah. And then you'll roll your eyes and you'll think to yourself, really? You thought you had a shot? Right. That will be mostly your reaction because maybe one out of 500, you'll be like, oh, he's kind of cute.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah. And it's also like, I don't, I would never take, I mean, if somebody DM me and was like, I know you through someone else, I would never just go out with a random person via DM. So it's safe to say that you have some nervousness about getting back out there. Yeah. Pretend, I feel like you might pretend that it doesn't bother you, but you probably think about it. Well, I'm just like where, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I mean, I've also had, not that I've dated anybody, but there've been obviously like texts here and there and people and I, for some reason, like I have like younger boys just wanting to go out. What do you mean by younger boys? Like 26, 27. How old are you? 31.
Starting point is 00:17:19 How old are you? 39. I'm 33. You're 39. No, you're not. Are you 39? Is he lying? He's not lying. Are you really 39. I'm 33. You're 39. No, you're not. Are you 39? Yeah. Is he lying? He's not lying.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Are you really 39? Yeah. Am I an idiot? Is he 39? Yes, he's 39. It's a sensitive subject. Don't make him feel too good about himself. I don't feel good about myself.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I'm, yeah. You, I mean, I would have, I thought you were my age. Yeah. Wow. But yeah, I'm not going out with a toy. Should I Google this? We're not lying to you. Trust me, I would not put it out there that I'm 39 if I wouldn't have to.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Do you have to? You could say you're 34. I'm not a liar. Okay. Well, there's that. How old were you when you started on The Bachelor? 33, 34. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:00 So then he felt, you know, okay, saying it. Now he can't go back. I'm Googling now. Yeah, you are. You truly didn't go back. I'm Googling now. Yeah, you are. You truly didn't believe us. That's crazy. How did you even get involved in The Bachelor? I didn't even Google you.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Is that weird? No. You know, we were talking via DM yesterday in preparation for this podcast. You had a great analogy that I agree with. And I once said this. Like when you say you Google someone, there's always anxiety on the other end. I'm like, oh my my god you googled me like and and google googling someone is like it's like running into that person who's like oh i'm best friends with them and you've met them once yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:18:35 and let me tell you all about them oh i have oh my god we're like and we're best friends we're the closest and like oh my god i know so much about them that's google that is so fucking google i don't know what's up i'm not good at google oh my god are we googling me no those photos who is that that's hot you actually have very attractive photos i mean if you want to see bad internet photos google me there's a dick on my face you guys i have to figure it out it's not good we were talking about this before the show started. You don't like your nose. No, I- You call it a dick on your face? It's just dickish.
Starting point is 00:19:07 You know what? I think it started to bother me a little bit more as I've been on TV, but this has been the oldest conversation I've had. Those aren't that bad, those photos.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I gotta say, I don't think you should continue to call it dickish. Thank you. What should I call it? Mushroomish? I don't know. It's a nice nose,
Starting point is 00:19:22 first of all, but yes, like all of a sudden you say dickish and then I'm'm literally trying to imagine or not imagine a dick on your face. Can we do more photos of me and not my ex? I know, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:19:31 With the tear. It's such a dramatic tear. There's wedding photos. Did Justin Bieber attack you? He did not attack me. There's a headline that says Justin Bieber. He did not attack me. I made a bad comment that I should not have made.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And he basically just said, you should use your positivity for good or your platform for good. I made a stupid low rent dig about his, I don't know. During a live show? Yeah. No, it wasn't a live show. It was a tape show. It was just, it was a bad joke. It was a bad joke. It was a bad joke. I don't don't know it was very much hanging from it was low and it wasn't necessary and and he came after me and i got some hate and that was it i love justin bieber yeah
Starting point is 00:20:14 like uh as someone who's obviously witty and snarky and and and says things quickly you or me both but and i'm asking you though how often do you uh are like oh fuck i probably could have lived without not saying that um you know what not that often actually for whatever reason there's something really weirdly likable about me i get away with saying things that i think most people would not for whatever reason because i think it's comes out pretty funny most of the time do you think you get away with it unanimously or people are just talking behind your back no i think i think i get it don't make me paranoid i think i get away with it i'm a paranoid person in that way i think i get away with it i don't
Starting point is 00:20:57 think i would i would be doing the jobs that i'm doing my google image photos by the way are hot they are or was that my insta yeah no it's. You cannot do this to me. I'm so self-obsessed that I will watch you do go through every photo. Like that's a good look at the tit on that one. That's hot. Yeah. Thanks, guys. Prada flame shoes, bitch.
Starting point is 00:21:14 You are debating getting a nose job. Yeah. Well, I've been debating for a long time. I've moved my appointment. I've had like 100 consultations because it's one of those things where people like love me for not kind of falling victim to like having a whole new face. Like I look pretty similar to when I started. That's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Yeah. I mean, my lips are a little bigger, but duh, whose aren't? Right. It's like mandatory. It's like eating breakfast. Is it though? It is. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Blow me with that. Yes, it's mandatory. Mandatory. God. It is. It's a little bit. You don't need to. I got to say, I mean, it's fine what everyone wants to do.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Kissing a lip that's, they've gone a little overboard. Okay, but then who are you kissing? Mine are not overboard. I'm not saying they are, but I'm just saying. What does it feel like? Rubbery. Then you're going to some, you're hooking up with girls that have cheap ass shit in their lips. It's not good.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I mean, it's been done. Be more selective with your DMs. It's not, I mean. But I mean, it's interesting because you you're obviously an attractive person you have a nice nose but it bothers you and yeah growing up always let me ask you this if if you knew that you wouldn't get any criticism what's your biggest fear of of of going through with looking completely different i don't i'm not having the control to like because if it's done correctly It will be great. Okay
Starting point is 00:22:27 If it's if there's if he's having a bad day I just the control of it not coming out the way human error Yeah, the human error of it all and also people just maybe not respecting me as much because I think people really do Respect the authenticity and people are like this is what you look like You've kept it like most people in the industry I don't want to say all but most have had their nose tweaked a few times. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:47 I mean, you see it in even people who have had long careers. You see it from when they started. Like there's probably three nose jobs that have happened that have been really subtle. But also the guy that I want to go to is like 75 and I want to make sure that I get it in before he's not there anymore. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I know a few people who i saw them and i was like wow your new nose and and that's bad that's like when it's really like when they just slope it down i think it was like their third one and it was like why'd you why'd you keep going there's a it's a bit of an addiction they looked uncomfortable it just looked like that yes it it didn't look natural and it didn't it didn't look like maybe they had a slight curve in their nose. They didn't like. And they got a little straight. And it looked like they went a little overboard.
Starting point is 00:23:34 You know, like they cut their nails a little too deep, so to speak. Yeah. That's the thing. You need to go to the right person that's going to leave some character. And I know the person that would do that. Overpay? You should always overpay, right? Shouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:23:44 No, I don't think so. Well, it depends. You don't want to get a deal. No deal on plastic surgery. I was hanging out with these ladies a couple years ago and they were out of town and we were just like hanging out and this one girl was like,
Starting point is 00:23:59 oh, I have to get going. I'm like, oh, where do you have to go? She's like, well uh i'm getting like uh blowtox or my lips done i think maybe it was lips done and she was like gonna do like a post for it i'm like this is not something you want to get a discount on like you do not want to like get your face augmented by doing an instagram post so someone's going to give you a deal no but you pay for that shit but botox is one of those things where yeah it's okay a little botox post it's all good a little few needles i don't know i just why fuck with your face have you ever had
Starting point is 00:24:30 botox i have not good uh i've thought about it you don't need it uh i've been you haven't i've been accused i have wrinkles here you have two lines guy by the way i'm very anti guys doing things really i really unless it's very. I have been accused of it. Well, you have a very young face. It's freaking me out. Maybe it's all those vegetables. I have used a face softener filter on an Instagram before. Yeah, that Instagram of yours, it's good.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Is it? Yeah, it's good. Some of the bow tie photos. All right, bitch. The shirtless jean one. I was like, what's happening over here? I, it's good. Some of the bow tie photos. All right, bitch. The shirtless jean one. I was like, what's happening over here? I don't like those. With that one.
Starting point is 00:25:08 That's kind of like, oh, just me and my perfect stomach. In case you forgot. He's like, oh. Accidentally hot. I don't think that's what's happening. I mean, that's the way to go in life. But do you feel like you might be letting, or like, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:27 if people appreciate your authenticity, that people might feel let down in some way? Yeah, that's my fear. I really, I think people, there are people that look up to me and they respect the fact that like, you are where you are. You haven't had to really alter yourself that much.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And why mess with it? And it's not like it's so bad where it's affected me getting dates or going out or getting married no you have a fabulous job yeah i have like so it clearly hasn't like hindered me but it's also just one of those things as i think i've gotten a little bit older it's like if it was just slightly smaller it'd be like bitch here's the interesting because it's like it's like a chicken before the egg argument here because at one on one end it's like hey like why do you feel like the need to do that or the pressure but also what if you just want it's also your prerogative to like to do it people can be
Starting point is 00:26:13 judgy for like if you want to get botox whether you're a guy or a girl if you want to get a nose job if you want to get your breasts augmented if you're a guy and i don't know what some of the options are people often will judge you for doing that so what is the like you know in the sense that some people do it some people don't and everyone has an opinion about it and then we talk about body shaming and body images and is it you know the kardashians get criticism a lot for having done this and are they good role models for the young women of the world but at the same time, like, I mean, are you,
Starting point is 00:26:46 if you want to do that and you can, I don't be responsible for every single person. Yeah. But it's, it's like, where do you, what's the right way to do it in terms of, I guess if you want to do it,
Starting point is 00:26:54 do it. And you know, one should, everyone should just mind their own business. And they won't, which is fine. But then you just do whatever ultimately I think makes you happy. And which is what I keep going back and forth on.
Starting point is 00:27:04 But for me, it's like, I'm just like, it doesn't bother me that happy. And which is what I keep going back and forth on. But for me, it's like, I'm just like, it doesn't bother me that much. And I've also never done anything permanent. Like I don't have tattoos. I mean, I mean,
Starting point is 00:27:12 the most drastic thing I do is really like dye my hair and get Botox. But again, Botox is like breakfast. Yeah. Is it? It is. LA is different from Wisconsin. When you grow up here, it's also different.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Yeah, you're from here. Yeah. You were on a show called The Rich Kids of Beverly Hills. Yes. Fun show. I was. I used to watch that. It was a good show.
Starting point is 00:27:35 It was a good time. I'm not familiar with it, but it just certainly speaks to the different childhoods that we had. Yes. How old were you when you went on that? What was it about? That was funny. Other than being rich.
Starting point is 00:27:46 It was just about a group. It wasn't even really about that, actually. The title was a little bit, I think, just kind of to get your attention. I mean, we obviously all grew up in Beverly Hills. We were a group of friends, and they just sort of followed our life around. Was it like a reality version of Beverly Hills 90210? Or was that like the goal? Yeah, but there was like no abortions.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Like no themes. Yeah, like it wasn't like, it was just like fun television. It's actually quite the cult classic. Yeah. Nick, yes. 100% people. Is that kind of how you got your start? Yeah, that's 100% how.
Starting point is 00:28:13 And even like to this day, I'm like, oh, that's still being mentioned. But yeah. Does that bother you? No, but like it doesn't bother me because I love everybody on the show. They truly are my friends. We had an amazing time filming.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I got engaged on the show. I got married. Kind of like what you did. Kind of, right? okay it wasn't like that that was just a natural that was just a natural evolution of my life at that time and we were filming but it was on the but it was on the show um and i totally forgot what i was saying to you but now you're doing all this other stuff. Right. So now, right. And again, I'm maybe kind of projecting my own goals and security at the same time, but more often now, are you thought of as Morgan Stewart's successful TV personality and not
Starting point is 00:28:57 girl from rich kids of Beverly Hills? I think we're entering that more and more every single day, but like, for example, I like there's, it's always like, Oh, from rich kids, former rich kids of Beverlyly hills i think we're entering that um more and more every single day but like for example i like there's it's always like oh from rich kid former rich kids of beverly hills star like there's always some a mention and by the way i i i appreciate where i started i don't regret doing the show in any way it is why i am where i am um but eventually when you do put so much work and time into something else and you have a consistent job on television every single day you kind of want that to not be the thing that's mentioned the most. Like this is a real job that I have. Like I have,
Starting point is 00:29:29 there's real commitment, there's sacrifices, as we said with dating, like I don't get to go and flirt at Sunset Tower till 1130. I have to be home and wear eye cream. Do you feel like you've had to work twice as hard for the respect of your peers, especially early on? I think there was a lot of people when I started to, and people probably that were in the building that I work in now that were like, why are we going to hire her to be here? Like, what is she really going to do? Like, talk about how she's rich. So I do think I probably, not maybe, I don't want to say worked harder than the average person, but I just think I was consistent enough. When I'm around around people i think people are impressed by me and they realize like oh there's more to her than you had to like work harder than like no i get what you had to like you had to work twice as
Starting point is 00:30:12 hard as hard for people's respect yes but i also don't i don't work for other people if you're not gonna like me i don't really give a fuck is that true no because i like mean, I feel like there's some similarities between us. And there's this... I don't care what people think of me, except that I totally care what people think of me. No, I see. This is why we're compatible in our Zodiacs. I care because I feel like most people who get to...
Starting point is 00:30:39 For example, brand deals. There's a lot of people at face value that'll be like, well, we're not going to do something with her. Like, what is she like? Yeah, she's not an influencer, but she is an influencer, but she's on TV. Like they can't pinpoint it. And then if they meet me in person, a hundred thousand dollars comes through. So I feel like if you don't like me, that's genuinely on you. Like if you meet me and you still don't like me, then that's weird. I feel so. And that bothers me. I am one of those things like I, I'm going to be who I am
Starting point is 00:31:04 because I'm stubborn and prideful. And I just want you to love that. What I'm just one of those things like I'm going to be who I am because I'm stubborn and prideful. And I just want you to love that. What I'm not going to be is a different person. So you will like, you know what I'm saying? Never. But it will bother me where I'm just like, kind of like, were you? It's like, well, why not? I mean, this is, I'm great.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Great. 100%. But also, have you ever really encountered people that do not like you? I've never really met somebody that does not like me. I think that if I want to turn it on, so to speak, and when people always like me better, I think as they get to know me, I'm guarded at first. I have a bit of a dickish resting bitch face so to speak at times i don't get that from you i think guarded a little bit again i'm not always on and i can be very aloof and then when i'm not present i i my vibe can be intimidating i've been told in dickish
Starting point is 00:32:00 oh men love the word intimidating i don't i don't i don't wear that with no trust me rochelle knows this and like i will just be like maybe so-and-so thought you're a dick and i'm like oh fuck and it's just like i'm and it i get it bothers me because i'm i this is this is not this is my entire life like my whole life i've been like accused of being a dick where i'm like what did i do man like i was just don't know, fucking thinking about something. I don't know. Right. But like, I just, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:28 But that's other people's fear of you not liking them. Totally. So it's a cycle. It's cyclical. I get where it comes from. And remember, I'm the kid in high school and it was just like, no, no. And it's like, I felt like I was in this spot because you can't, you can't say that. It's like, well, I'm not a dick.
Starting point is 00:32:43 It's, it's you who wants me to like, you can't fucking say that. Cause then you're just a double dick. Well, maybe you can't say that it's like well i'm not a dick it's it's you who wants me to like you can't fucking say that because then you're just a double dick well maybe you have to say that sometimes but i i was i felt like i was like pleading that case so like a lot of people a lot of people were you popular in high school yes not middle school why but i was high school because you weren't as cute in middle school no i mean i we've talked about i was a bit i was i was two middle school was two years for me and i was i was bullied by a more popular guy for being gay and then he'd and for accusing me of being gay and then you're not gay right no okay i just wanted to clarify but he did sound like you yeah yeah that was okay i was like is this something i should have
Starting point is 00:33:20 no but he i you know i was it was it was pretty harsh and it. And I vividly remember it. And then we went to different high schools. And then I will say, I think in high school, I probably projected a little bit of being the outsider in middle school. And I think I was, it's like the kid who got picked on, who's now cool, who wants to be cool.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And I probably became, in some ways, the person i didn't like i never bullied or picked on people but i was a i if i could arrogant yeah if i could time travel and go back in high school i would have gone out of my way to be uh outwardly nice to the less popular people do you and i think i was probably dismissive do you talk to people from high school still any of your friends uh two of my best friends are still very much, were in high school. Like I've, two of my closest friends who are still my best friends, I've met in middle school.
Starting point is 00:34:10 And? No one really else. Okay. How about you? Same. Two friends. I feel like, I feel like if you can have two friends from your childhood as an adult, you're lucky.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I have multiple friends from my childhood. I mean, from high school specifically, I have two two but i've kind of had the same friend yeah i have had the same friends my whole life the real ones that have stayed yeah i think that's important i think that says a lot about you why i just think it's nice to i mean obviously people grow apart i've had very long friendships decade-long friendships that unfortunately ended and never got back on course so i i mean, I'm- Why do you think it says a lot about you? I feel like there's people listening who like,
Starting point is 00:34:49 couldn't wait to get out of high school and just wanted to leave everything behind. But it's not even necessarily about high school. Just like if you're able to make a connection with somebody then consistently tend to that relationship throughout your own life, I think that's a positive quality to have. Yeah, I mean-
Starting point is 00:35:01 Fair? I just feel lucky to have- Exactly. It's fun to like still get together and and we still to this day we'll get together and we'll tell the same stories but it's fun to reminisce about when we were in high school right and there's always a couple of these like five or six stories we're always like we'll throw out little like even names or jabs and one of us will get fucking insecure about it because we are always just teasing each other. And it's great.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And it's a warm and fuzzy feeling. Yeah, exactly. Are they still in Wisconsin? They are. They live in the Wisconsin life. They're married with kids. Do you want to get married? I would.
Starting point is 00:35:41 I want to have kids. Okay. Do you want to have kids soon? Yeah. And why have you not found your person yet? Oh man, I spent five years of my life looking for love on a reality TV show. Yeah. I mean, I say that because like,
Starting point is 00:35:53 it can happen. It's worked for people, but I took a risk in that regard. Right. Part of it too is a combination of things. And then after that, I changed my life. In the sense that I had a, before I went on, I was selling software at a very traditional Midwest kind of life and job. And it was all great.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And I was very lucky. And I like stopped that. And I came, moved to LA and I started over. And the first year and a half, I felt very unsettled. And for me, it's hard for me to be in a relationship when I feel unsettled. For me, it's hard for me to be in a relationship when I feel unsettled. I'm very, as I found out through our Enneagram thing, I'm very motivated by my profession. Yeah, I think that's good.
Starting point is 00:36:33 My work motivates me. And if I don't feel like I'm in a good place with that, I don't think I can be in a relationship. I think that goes for everybody, right? You think so? Do you want kids? I do want kids, yeah. I think that's also been the most probably stressful part about this whole breakup is because you kind of do the thing where you get married at the right age, let's say, and you have an engagement, you have a partner, and then that
Starting point is 00:36:53 kind of falls apart. And you're kind of at the age where that's the next step. But then you're also on the flip side, so grateful that that did not happen because having to separate with a child, I cannot imagine having to do that. So, you know, but yeah, I mean, I've obviously, I'm obviously like the next relationship I want to have is with somebody that, yeah, probably let's sit on this and do this correctly quickly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Sit on it. Sit on it. Do you know what I mean? I feel like it shoots up that way and then it's easier to get pregnant. Am I wrong? I don't know much about the- Do we have to edit all this? Am I going to get it's fine uh yeah no i want i i i'm totally open to
Starting point is 00:37:29 getting married i want to get married but it's just like i don't need to what's your longest relationship uh seven years well i mean my first my first love was seven years we broke up five you know so they get first love from 18 and 25 we were off and on oh those are the best i had that relationship too tragic amazing and terrible i actually don't think about i had a dream about her last night did you really i swear to god do you see how i asked you that i'm psychic and i knew you were gonna be your answer i feel fucked up and it was it was sexual it was yeah so you guys that's what kept you together ultimately is the sex right I was very I mean I I just
Starting point is 00:38:06 She's all I knew She was my first love I was very physically Attracted to her Right I just Yeah And then I had
Starting point is 00:38:13 A year and a half relationship And then I had a two year Two and a half year relationship And then you went on the show For the most And like a year and a half later Went on the show And so
Starting point is 00:38:22 I've been single Most of my 30s I was in a relationship All through my 20s That's good And now you're Gonna be And so I've been single most of my 30s. I was in a relationship all through my 20s. That's good. And now you're gonna be... And now I just feel less of a desire to just be in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I'm comfortable with being alone and I don't ever wanna be in a relationship just to date. I do think I've become a little too guarded that way. Are you on dating apps? I'm on Raya. Should I be on Raya? Yeah, get on Raya, girl. Do you have to, what do you do girl Do you have to What do you do?
Starting point is 00:38:45 Do you have to submit me? Yeah recommend her Yeah recommend me Be my friend No you go on And then you like You put my name in And I'll get a notification
Starting point is 00:38:53 And I'll be like Yeah she's cool You better Sure But I don't know Is that a Just so you know It's like
Starting point is 00:38:58 Lower your expectations It's just a nice safe way To meet some people Most of which You'll be like Okay so I'm not going on riot. That's all. Just try it.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Just try it. Yeah. But that's dating in general. Right. I do think, you know, unsolicited advice. Sorry. No, bring it on. For someone who has been single, not as a man, I'm not mansplaining here, but to someone
Starting point is 00:39:17 who has been single and dating, just, you know, have some fun. I'm, oh. I feel like you're, like, I literally can't imagine having been married and then getting divorced. And like, I can empathize with this. Like, I don't want to fucking deal with this bullshit or like whatever, but like. I'm still in the midst of like, we've just separate,
Starting point is 00:39:36 like we haven't even divorced yet. So it must be tough, but like have some fun along the way. You're going to meet, you're going to have terrible dates. I'm all about the fun. I don't think I'll ever, I'm good. I, I, I'm pretty good on dating.'m all about the fun i don't think i'll ever i'm i'm good i i i'm pretty good on dating like i could go i don't think your ability but what if but i wouldn't go out with somebody that i felt like wasn't gonna keep up his end of the bargain oh well how would you how do you know though in terms of personality like i wouldn't say
Starting point is 00:39:59 yes like i don't know yeah but you never know in the bedroom that's the thing oh no but the bedroom i feel like you date like at least three times before you do that oh you say that now but we'll see but i don't know would you ever have a one night stand i you know what it's crazy i actually have never had one which i know i i i did like i had sex with all my friends do you know what i mean so they were all in the same yeah do you know what i mean and i mean one night stand i don't mean like i went to a rave i don't even know their name and you wake up i mean like you go on a date you have a nice time you totally know their name maybe you even talked on the on the dating app a few times but like the night you have a couple glasses of wine you go home and you wake up like oh we just had sex yeah
Starting point is 00:40:37 100 i'm not i'm not opposed to that it really just depends on how that all goes cool um no i just i think oh yeah great i uh i think keep moving i don't really have a i'm just yeah i mean i feel like there's so much pressure to go in the dating world and i can't i do you feel like you're putting pressure on yourself to get out there no i actually feel like even right now as we're having this conversation there's been like a few people that have kind of circled in and out. And I really am just keeping my energy as clear as possible. Like I'm not going to like text every second. By the way, even like for me, I don't have the time to text all day long. Like even if somebody's flirting with me and I like them, like I'll be like, oh shit, I didn't respond. Like, you know what I mean? I'm busier. So I just basically am
Starting point is 00:41:21 like clearing all energy and whoever wants,'s like hot I'll like and wants to come in and I'll want to have sex with them great I'm not like I'm not putting out my energy I'm open but I'm not putting forth energy towards somebody being like come let's go out to dinner you're not you're not yeah you seem like you're right yeah I get what you're saying but also like don't mistake like if it's Friday night I'm at Craig's and I'm two tequilas and I'm what you're saying. But also like, don't mistake. Like if it's Friday night and I'm at Craig's and I'm two tequilas and I'm like, you're so hot. Like I'm quick to be. Are you looking forward to the, um, the excitement of the, like, you know, that when you describe meeting someone, you're texting all day.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yeah. No. The banter. That's fun. I excel at banter. So anybody that steps up to that challenge, I love, I love a banter. Uh, but yeah, that, like that text. The best.
Starting point is 00:42:03 That's, that's fun. It is fun. uh but yeah that like that text the best that's that's fun it is fun i've had like some mild things and then um then they've just not then i'm like you're a fuck boy bye without getting into details about your past relationship or ex what are some things that in the failed relationship you had things you've learned about yourself that you would like to change or apply for the future and in your next relationship well I do feel like in my relationship towards the end, there was a lot of sort of, we were very combative towards one another. And he, I can genuinely say, is one of the nicest, best people. And I think a lot of what I was feeling internally, like the person that I am,
Starting point is 00:42:38 like sort of in my stomach is not necessarily the person that comes out of my mouth. And I'm somebody that's extremely harsh without intending to be and extremely aggressive and really inside I'm vulnerable, sad and want your attention and affection and love. What do you mean by harsh? Like I'm like, I'm feeling all these things inside. And then I'm like, well, you're a fucking loser. And he's like, well, whoa.
Starting point is 00:42:57 And then it just sort of deteriorated from there. So I now see all of the things about myself that in the relationship when he was in front of me, I could not figure out why we were going down this path. But I was really much at fault for a lot of it. It's 50-50 no matter what the circumstance. Sure, but question. When you say, I relate to this because I have been in relationships.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I have to adjust. Sorry. Oh, yeah. Do it. And I don't respond very well to it. Men do not. And it's just like, the only thing that makes me mad, really in general, or especially in a relationship, is if I think you're not trying to solve a problem, I think you're trying to deliberately hurt me.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Yeah. And I think a lot of women do that out of insecurity. And a lot of women feel like you're not performing up to what they want, but they're not expressing that. So they'll just go for the jugular. You're just trying to be mean. And just be mean to you. And I see looking back, like there were so many times where he needed help
Starting point is 00:43:51 or needed something from me and I was, or we'd end up in a fight and 10 minutes into the fight, I'd be like, how are we, what happened? I'm not even, and then I would get, the thing about me is if things become overwhelming, I get tired really quickly. And then I just bow out and I'm like, let's just stop it. So then we were in a pattern of not being able to like navigate our way out of it.
Starting point is 00:44:11 So yeah, you're very correct. And women are tend to do that. Or at least I tend to do that. Well, I don't know. I just know I've been in relationships where that's happened. I don't know if it's a general thing. Yeah. It's, it's some, I am sensitive to it.
Starting point is 00:44:22 So when I, when I hear that, cause it's just like, and I'm like a literal person. So like I'm, you know, as a guy in that classic, like the fixer mentality. And so even if it's something mean or unproductive, I will still attempt to respond to that and like take it literally or serious and solve that problem. In the meantime, she just fucking said it to get at me and there was nothing really to argue. So it feels like you're very communicative in your relationships and you want to solve whatever problems in front of you i'm a very communicative person which i think is great slightly annoying i'm sure do you want to like
Starting point is 00:44:52 talk through everything no i'm just like i have been told in relationships that i'm generally a really calm person and then when the other person's not calm and i'm just like all right well let's just that's pissed them off i didn't match their their energy and I just didn't feel the need to. And then they would rile me up and then I would respond to that. But then I felt like, well, now you're just a bitch and now you've hurt my feelings. And I feel like you're not only, I don't care if you accidentally hurt my feelings. If you say something that's like, I'll be honest, that kind of hurt my feelings, that's fine. But I know that your intent is to in fact hurt my feelings
Starting point is 00:45:29 and you accomplish that, then I'm like, I go from zero to 100. Right, okay. Are you sober? I'm just asking. I mean, I drink alcohol. Yeah, that's what I meant.
Starting point is 00:45:38 That's all. It was just a side note question. Don't let me throw you. But you're not a big drinker. I'm not a big drinker at all. I will smoke weed from time. In fact, as I've gotten older, I didn't smoke weed or use it until I was in my 30s.
Starting point is 00:45:52 I've never been a big drinker. I find that to be better for me to use that because I don't like being hung up. I've never been a big drinker. I like a glass of wine. I don't get drunk ever. No, I'm kind of in that place right now. Well, how could you? You got to wake up at five every day. I mean, I definitely, like I'm a big drinker i like a glass of wine i don't i don't get drunk ever no i'm yeah i'm kind of in that place right well how could you you gotta wake up at five every day i mean i definitely like i'm
Starting point is 00:46:08 a big red wine like i'll have like a glass of wine pretty much every night yeah i mean just wait me by the end of the day i'm like imagine i need something to like just calm down a little bit and i don't i like that i have no i don't take anything i smoke weed sometimes but there is i don't take anything i don't like feeling out of control. Right. I like it. Sometimes that can be a little fun. I like getting loose, but not out of control.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Cause sometimes I need to loosen up. I think human beings do. Yeah. But I don't like, I don't like being the guy. Nope. Yeah. So that's not, that's not, that's not the good guy. Well, this has been fun.
Starting point is 00:46:43 We're going to play one little game. Oh, I'm so excited. A few more minutes. You guys. We play with's not, that's not the good guy. Well, this has been fun. We're going to play one little game. Oh, I'm so excited. A few more minutes. You guys, we play with all our guests. Of course I have time. Do you know me?
Starting point is 00:46:51 Okay. Rochelle has picked out these questions. I only say that because you're scared. Well, sometimes, sometimes they can be sexual in nature. Okay, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:47:02 And I just don't want our listeners to feel like i'm a perv they probably already do some of them certainly do a perv well i showed i sent you that article i will talk about it about like uh long-term relationships and people's hooked up and it was all like oh because you're open about i was labeled casually i yeah but it was written as if like i'm some sort of i'm i i don't sleep around do you go on dates a lot what define a lot like do you go on a date a week no but i have gone there's been a period of time where i might have gone on two dates in the same week yeah maybe three dates in three weeks but i wouldn't say but then it's just kind of like i'm exhausted and how are you don't go
Starting point is 00:47:41 for like i won't go on a date for a month how are you meeting these people usually through friends through entertainment or it might be riot might be an occasional dm in one direction or another um i'll slide you'll slot and someone slide bitch someone slides through yeah but it was very much like hey want to come on the show and i was like okay and i will also be at the bottom of the slide with my arms open you know like i'm in there you know um i'm not i i'm a huge believer like i i try not to judge myself in that regard yeah people always like joke about i want to meet someone like a more organic and way like people want to meet in a way that they can like tell their friends and not feel like a cliche but like i, I'm sorry, that's just gone. It doesn't exist. Do you know me? Do you know me? Okay. It's real simple. I'm going to ask a question. I'll put
Starting point is 00:48:30 your name in the blank. Rochelle and I are going to guess which one is it? If you do, or if you don't, don't reveal yourself quite yet. Okay. If there's a fun anecdote or story behind your answer, please share. All right. Okay. I'm never doing a podcast in a skirt again. Wait, are you feeling uncomfortable? No, I just want to Indian style it and I fucking can't. It's the worst. Okay, sorry. You look hot though. Thank you, my love. I'm going to stay here all day. This was so quick.
Starting point is 00:48:56 I'm not. Don't worry. Everyone's like, whoa, whoa, she has to leave. Get her the fuck out of here. She's trying to hang. Do you have more you wanted to reveal? No. Ready? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Do you know me? Okay. Does Morgan prefer ice cream over birthday cake? This is a softball. It's a softball? Really? Truly? Maybe the softest of balls we've ever
Starting point is 00:49:26 wow i'll take it i'll take it but also i truly believe that a lot can be uh derived from soft balls sometimes so i'm gonna say ice cream that's funny unless she you know i don't know no no don't what was the answer i'm gonna say ice cream okay but i could convince myself otherwise a lot of people don't seem to like cake as much as i do uh you're a big cake guy i like a good cake uh a good just sheet cake old school classic uh but you my guess is maybe some sort of like dairy-free thing you know dairy is bad for your skin you're very la you've grown up here oh my god look at the judgy the judgy rich kids of beverly hills okay ice cream listen i'm gonna go i'm gonna say neither because you like pie well i i feel like you are like such a badass
Starting point is 00:50:12 girl and you have all these jobs and you're like i'm not gonna waste calories on ice cream and cake i go love ice cream oh mint chocolate chip ice cream no dairy free you little bitch fuck you i respect that was bullshit i am let me just make one thing very clear there are no shortcuts i eat whatever i want i drink regular soda there is never a diet anything well i'm gonna eat it i'm gonna eat it or i'm not gonna thank you for saying i'm a huge believer in that there listen i don't your diet coke is computer parts it's not better for you so if you're gonna cheat just cheat right and then don't you don't cheat yeah right but if you're gonna eat just cheat right and then don't you don't cheat yeah
Starting point is 00:50:45 right but if you're gonna eat ice cream just fucking yeah mint chocolate chip from 31 flavors the best um all right well one nothing nick as usual has morgan ever been fired from a job hmm i honestly i'm torn i know her face made me think no i could see both i could see both on one side i think to myself she's she's a she's headstrong someone pissed her off she's like fucking up you know and then she just got fired and the other time i feel like she might be a bit of a perfectionist and a hard worker and too prideful to get fired. I'm going to go with the latter. She's never been fired.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I don't think she's ever been fired because I don't know if you had a job before. Yeah. The Beverly Hills. I've never, I don't think, I think I've had internships and things where like people, it just ended. I've never had someone sit me down and say, you're no longer coming back to this company or whatever. You have?
Starting point is 00:51:44 Yes. Very, it's very traumatic. It's's horrible it makes you feel really bad was it a non-entertainment job yes that's why you weren't in your spot well but like i mean if you've fired but i still tried hard i i know i'm actually surprised you're a diligent worker thank you nick, Nick. I think I am too. That is, it does surprise me. But like in entertainment, it's like, that's such a. You can't get fired.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Well, I guess. I mean, that's the thing. It's such a volatile industry. Yeah. Right. I'm knocking on all the wood in here. There's no wood in this whole damn. You can't get fired
Starting point is 00:52:18 from like your hosting gig. She shows up at E. Like, hey, listen, can we meet? You're great. We love you. We're in the Morgan Stewart business, but like, you don't have You're great. We love you. We're in the Morgan Stewart business, but like you're not in office anymore.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Right. Has Morgan ever popped someone? Oh, has Morgan ever popped someone else's pimple? Yes. Yes. Ah, yes.
Starting point is 00:52:36 That's being married. True. It's also just a ton of fun. It is. Ugh. Was Morgan part of a student council in high school no she's giving it all i'm sorry i didn't look at her no i didn't look at no i wasn't we didn't have that i went to a european school a year and i went to an international i went to a french school my mom's not from do you
Starting point is 00:52:57 speak french yeah sort of that's cool your mom where's your mom my mom's from switzerland but my dad lived in your in france for 10. So they wanted me to have a European upbringing. So yeah, that's also probably why I don't have my nose done because they're not so American. Yeah. Not so LA. When are you going to make the decision on the nose? Because I feel like you have to like-
Starting point is 00:53:15 Next week. Really though? Yeah. No. You just have to decide. Yeah, I'm going to. Either just stick with the nose you have or just fucking do it.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I know. Look at you. You're getting so invested in my nose job because he's annoyed about it. Are you annoyed about it? No, he wants just me to decide yeah i'm going either to stick with the nose you have or just fucking do it i know look at you you're getting so invested in my nose job because he's annoyed about it are you annoyed about it no he wants just me to decide but don't you think i want to own whatever no she do you think the way you look could be part of the reason why you are so so successful um what's your plan for the nose job i'm assuming you've pictured it. I wanted to answer my question. Yeah, no. Nick. I'm sorry. That was rude. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Ask me that again. What is like, do you think part of the reason or not? No, just the way that you look is part of the reason why you are successful. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I think maybe there's, I think I have a very specific face. It's a little bit more unique for whatever reason. And I think I'm very I think I have a very specific face. It's a little bit more unique. Yeah, or whatever reason and I think I'm very animated when I speak. Yes. So maybe that has that is added to it. Yeah, but then I'm also somebody that can look bad really easily and I get I do but everyone has it has that hurt you in any way career.
Starting point is 00:54:23 No, I can't say I've had the hardest rise. And I'm sorry for interrupting, but now to my question. If you got the nose shot, what's it look like? What's the nose? Just a subtle tweak down the middle. Not a break, just a subtle,
Starting point is 00:54:36 just a millimeter in down the front. Keep the facets around nostril, like all of that similar. We've talked about it. I can't wait to see it. But who knows if it's even gonna happen. Yeah, just don't do the, we all know that nose similar. We've talked about it. I can't wait to see it. But just, but who knows if it's even going to happen. Yeah, just don't,
Starting point is 00:54:46 just don't do the, we all know that note. I'm not going to do the Jennifer Grey nose. I don't even know who she is. She lost everything. Dirty dancing. Nick, you have to know these things.
Starting point is 00:54:54 You can't have a podcast. Don't put baby in a corner. Oh yeah, her. She had a nose job? Yes. And she had a great, great nose.
Starting point is 00:54:59 She was on Dancing with the Stars. I don't, I haven't seen every season. This is unbelievable. She had a great nose. Yeah, that's the point. My sister, Maria, jokes with me that I like a prominent nose. Oh, I like.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Do you? Okay, I have to Google. I don't even. Right. Offline combo. My first girlfriend who I had a dream about last night. Blonde? Brunette.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Do you only date brunettes? I have dated more brunettes than blondes yeah but i've dated blondes okay yeah uh but uh yeah i i i uh i yeah i would i agree with rochelle uh has morgan yeah never had sex on the beach. You grew up pretty close to the beach. No. I'm going to say definitely. No. I think definitely.
Starting point is 00:55:51 How do you know I haven't had sex on the beach? I just think it sounds fun maybe to you, but I feel like you're just like, this is sand. I don't know. Is that true? So true. I don't need. Is that true? So true. Oh.
Starting point is 00:56:06 I don't need sand. I have not had sex on the beach. Does that make me lame? No. I find. Have you had sex on the beach? Oh, yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:56:13 It was the best. Have you? Remember in Hawaii. You're like, you remember? Have you had sex on the beach? Yeah, you've had sex on the beach. No, not in the way that you are imagining. No.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I've had sex. uh, uh, in paradise. It was like a compound that's on a beach, but like, it was not bad. Yeah, no, I haven't had sex on a beach. Yeah, no, I'm glad that I'm so obvious and easy to read. I find that I'm, I'm good at reading people. Really? What else have you read about me? Uh, I don't know, but I i am i'm pretty good at it okay clearly
Starting point is 00:56:46 uh uh i find that when think like sex in the shower hate sex in the shower i don't even have sex what the fuck a lot of the things you think about as a kid about like sex at the end of the day the best place to have sex is like in a bed in a bed the shower sex is always a pulled neck muscle sciatica something's not going well, you're like standing and you're limited and then you try to get creative and that's awkward. And like, unless you have like an amazing shower, then someone's cold. Lubrication is not where it needs to be.
Starting point is 00:57:13 It's just not the best. Absolutely. You know what? Agreed. No shower sex, no beach sex. I'm not saying I won't have it, but it's not like. It's not hot. You always need to move.
Starting point is 00:57:22 You don't finish there. You might start. Yeah. But. Yeah might start. Yeah. But yeah. Anyways. Well, Morgan, I really appreciate you coming on. This has been a ton of fun. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:57:34 All the, all the continued success in your wonderful career. Where can people find you? Buy your clothes. And we didn't talk too much about it, but you're a wonderful. Talk about it now. Well, yeah. Well, okay. So I have a workout line called Morgan Stewart Sport. We make the cutest workout sets and tanks and jackets. I'll get you whatever you would like.
Starting point is 00:57:54 It's really good material. I've been doing it for probably three, four years now. For you. It does really well. We just had our biggest launch ever two weeks ago. So I was really happy about that. I'm very involved. I remember hearing Brie from The Bachelor
Starting point is 00:58:07 is one of your models. I love Brie. She is. She is. She is. There she is right now. If you go to, yeah, down there. There's Brie.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Oh, she looks great. She's so hot, Brie. I love her. She's a babe. She is a babe, right? Yeah. That looks, I mean, if I were a chick, I think I'd want to wear that.
Starting point is 00:58:24 No, it's very chic. It looks great. It is. And then we did like some trench and yeah, it's all very good. You can buy them together, like the top and the bottom. Yeah, you can buy that. I love that.
Starting point is 00:58:34 I mean, they're separate prices. Oh, okay. Where can people find these clothes? So you can do it. We only sell them online. The company I do it with is called LA Collective. So you do it LA Collective slash, you know, Morgan Stewart Sport.
Starting point is 00:58:44 And then I have an Instagram called Morgan Stewart Sport. And then you can find me on my Instagram, which is at Morgan Stewart. Do you just do active wear? And I don't mean just as if. No, no. I get it. I feel you. I do bathing suits too.
Starting point is 00:58:57 We did bathing suits once. And we're going to probably pick that up. I mean, this stuff looks great. It was a natural progression. It was like time. And I'm big on bathing suits. Yeah. Are you an active person?
Starting point is 00:59:10 Uh-huh. I mean, like not the craziest. I mean, I go to Pilates like a few times a week and walk. Regardless, when you do, you look great. I do. Absolutely. When I go walk my dogs and whatever, I'm always. I'm really nice active wear.
Starting point is 00:59:23 No, can you zoom in? There's, it's pinstripes. It's very chic, you guys. I have very good taste. I don always- I'm really nice active wear. No, can you zoom in? There's, it's pinstripes. It's very chic, you guys. I have very good taste. I don't want anyone to be intimidated by that. I mean, that looks, if a girl showed up on a date wearing that, I'd be into it.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Well, hello. I got a lot of sets for your dates. Yeah, that's very good. Congratulations on that. Thank you. Where else can people find you? Oh God, what else? At Morgan Stewart,
Starting point is 00:59:44 at Morgan Stewart Sport, at Daily Pop, at Nightly Pop, at E, at all the things is that good was that good yeah uh awesome and also uh best of luck in the personal life thank you very much uh yeah yeah it's gonna go well i think you're gonna put good vibes out there i think you're gonna be fine thank you yeah i hope so uh thanks for listening guys uh it's been another fun episode don't forget to send your questions at ask nick at cast media.com cast with a k uh don't forget to give us five stars because we have no time for three four two or one i like pan i i care what people say i do five stars only um that's it have a great day

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